Transcript of Jan Marie DeDolce’s and Penny Drossos’ Conversations with Melissa Gorga About Cheating on Joe with Bryan Bulldog Bowen
“2009 phone records don’t lie. I checked it out u can go back 6years. I’m sure if he looks it up my number will be all over it. In some way I still don’t feel good about even taking the devil down. Don’t ya wish you apologized. Sleep well. Oh by the way for someone who’s looking for 15mins of fame I turned down your show n someone who wants $ so far it’s all free.” – Bryan Bowen (@bulldog_nj), October 6, 2013, Twitter
In an interview with AllAboutTRH, Jan Marie DeDolce, Melissa’s friend of 12 years and former bridesmaid, said Melissa called her out of the blue to have lunch with her because she wanted to know if Jan had told anybody about the night at Sushi Lounge – the night during the summer of 2009 when Melissa allegedly hooked up with Bryan Bulldog Bowen in the parking lot.
At the Milania launch party in episode 12, Jan and Melissa discussed that night, with Jan explaining that Melissa said to “make sure you say my sister-in-law was there.” Jan said to Melissa: “You used me as an alibi.”
“I was invited there [to the Milania launch party] lol. [I told them] I was busy sawing wood that night. Lol 😉 I wasn’t foolish enough [to attend].” – Bryan Bown (@bulldog_nj), August 11, 2013, Twitter
The following is the transcript of Jan and Melissa’s conversation at the Milania launch party, as well as Melissa’s conversation with Penny Drossos.
Jan and Penny are talking, with Kim D standing beside them, as Melissa and Joe arrive.
Jan: Why is she even here? Because she has nothing to do with hair, right?
Kim D to Jan: Well, they all made up.
Jan: Yeah, so I heard.
Kim D: What do you think about that?
Jan: Yeah, I think it’s fake.
Jan: Melissa’s scared because she really doesn’t want anybody from the [inaudible] knowing anything about her anymore. You know what, you want to go around talking about people, when you have so many skeletons in your closet. I’d be scared too!
Penny: And it’s sad because she is a married women. I would never want to break up a marriage. And neither would you.
Jan: I don’t care.
Penny: But she was two-timing her husband.
Kim D, Teresa and Melissa greet each other – chatter about not holding grudges.
Anytime I’m talking to Kim D I have my guard up. I don’t trust her. It’s hard to trust her.
Jan walks over to them and congratulates Teresa on her hair products.
Jan: Melissa, did you want to say something?
Melissa: Me? No, why?
Jan: You had a lot of nasty things to say after you heard that I had drinks with some people.
Melissa: No, actually, I heard that you had dinner with my sister-in-law and Kim, and you told them, like, I was a horrible friend to you and that I meet my ex. All this stuff!
Jan: Well, you did meet you ex.
Melissa: Did you just say I did meet my ex?!
Jan: Yeah, I was there with you that night.
Melissa: Are you fucking kidding me!
Jan: And other people! About nine other people were there that night.
Melissa: That’s right! His best friend!
Melissa (smiling, now with her hand on Joey’s shoulder, who has a drink in one hand and his other hand on his hip, smirking): My sister-in-law, she was there too!
Jan: Yeah, she was there too! That’s what you told me to say, actually, “Make sure you say my sister-in-law was there.”
Melissa tries to interrupt Jan.
Jan: Yeah, you did. You were actually upset that they were there. You used me as an alibi.
Melissa: Don’t you dare lie!
Jan: I’m done lying for you.
There’s a part of me that would like to bitch slap Jan. But Teresa says she’s backing me up. But she doesn’t look like that. Her body language says, “It’s totally out of my hands and let them settle their own problems.”
Melissa: Why is it so important for you to try to hurt us?
Jan: No, it’s not!
Melissa: You told me this crazy lady came to your house.
Jan: Right. Right.
Melissa: Penny, who’s obsessed with me.
Jan: I got dragged into something.
Melissa: You’re my friend.
Jan: Right, I got dragged in (Melissa tries to interrupt). Well, Melissa, I don’t have a dark past that I’m trying to pretend I’m something I’m not. You have a lot of skeletons under your bed and you had to use me to be on your side.
Camera pans to Joe, shrugging his shoulders with a stupid grin on his face.
Melissa: What you’re doing is disgusting. You know that?!
Jan: You won’t even say “hi” to me. Melissa, you’re not Melissa.
Teresa to Melissa: Are you okay?
Melissa to Teresa: Yeah!
Jan to Teresa: Yeah, we’re fine.
Jan to Melissa: You know it and I know it.
Jan and Melissa do have a history together. Really, the two of them need to hash it out. And if my name gets involved, then I guess that’s when I’ll speak up.
Melissa: Why don’t you go home. It’s my sister-in-law’s party. I loved you, remember that!
Jan: Right! You love yourself.
Melissa: Yes, I love myself too! Yes!
Jan: Melissa, the academy award goes to you. Thank you Jesus! … I’m outta here.
Kim D: What just happened?
Melissa: She’s trying to say that I hung out with a guy! Why would she say something so fucking stupid?! She’s such an ass.
I am extremely hurt that Jan turned on Melissa. I just feel, like, she’s just, like, a puppet and she’s getting talked to, “Do this and do that,” and she’s doing it.
Teresa: I don’t know. Can you guys just forgot all of this?!
Melissa: Hello, I’m on a cover of a magazine! This is bullshit.
Teresa: Look, that had nothing to do with that article.
Kim D: She had nothing to do with it!
Joe to Kim D and Teresa: You know what she should have done? She should have accused me of cheating. It would have been more believable if it was me.
Joe to Melissa: They’re trying to break us up.
Penny walks over to Kim D, Teresa, Melissa and Joe.
Penny to Teresa: Hi, I wanted to congratulate you on your launch. I love your hairline.
Teresa: Thank you. This is Penny.
Melissa, nodding her head, looks at Penny: Ahhh, OK. I heard that you had dinner with my sister-in-law and with Jan, and that you were, like, talking shit about me the whole time you were there.
Penny: Did I say things? Absolutely. I’m not going to deny it.
Teresa to Penny: Can we just clear up one thing? Are you and me friends?
Penny: Me and your are acquaintances. I know you. Do I talk to you on the phone? No.
Teresa, turning to address Melissa: Thank you. That’s not a friend.
Melissa to Penny: But a lot of things you’ve said are not true.
Penny: I don’t want to hurt you. I was confronted about a situation. I answered a question. And that’s how I was brought into this shit. When that article came out, the only reason I did respond is because I was asked.
Who are you? Like, I’ve never even met her before. Why are you lying about me? Why are you doing this to me? It makes no sense! There’s gotta be someone pulling Penny’s leash.
Melissa: So you’re saying people ask you questions about me?
Penny: You know, many different people.
Melissa: But tell me (Teresa interrupts).
Teresa: Just to make sure – you know that we’re not friends? Do we have that straight?
Melissa, with a snarl, to Teresa: Yes, you guys are not friends.
Teresa: Thank you! Thank you!
Melissa to Penny: What question were you asked?
Penny: I was asked who [Bryan Bulldog Bowen’s name is bleeped out] was. I was asked about certain things from your past.
Melissa: Who asked you these questions?
Penny: Well, I’m not gonna (Melissa interrupts).
Melissa: You should say it!
Penny: I’m know I should say, but I don’t want to cause problems.
Melissa: I get that.
Teresa to Penny: You know Angelo from last year?
Teresa: And that was your salon?
Teresa: Did I ever see Angelo before that night?
Teresa to Joe and Melissa: See! I had nothing to do with the fashion show!
Melissa TH (this testimonial was recorded recently because she has her new, blonder hair, wearing the deep cut black top) – there is a reason this additional TH was added after the season premiered:
I’m not gonna lie. I think it’s a little strange. I can’t get a answer out of Penny. Teresa keeps interrupting her and diverting the conversation. It’s like all she’s concerned about is that her name is clear.
Teresa: I don’t like to get blamed for things that I don’t do.
Penny: No, Teresa has nothing to do with this.
Teresa: Nothing to do with it.
Melissa to Teresa: Entertain you guests. You don’t have to listen.
Teresa: But I just want to make sure that if you’re uncomfortable that (Melissa interrupts).
Melissa, condescending: I have my husband right here, baby.
Joe, with a smirk on his face and blood-shot eyes (to Teresa): Go mingle.
Teresa: I just want to make sure you’re OK.
Joe, still smirking: I got it!
Teresa looks at Joe, raising her eyebrows: No.
Joe, still smirking: I got it! C’mom.
I don’t feel like I’m getting the whole truth here. Teresa, hovering over the situation, telling the girl (Joe mocking Teresa’s voice), “Listen, I had nothing to do with it, right? Make sure you tell ’em!” She is trying too hard to make herself look innocent. And to me that makes her look guilty.
Melissa, whose eyes look blood-shot as well: Honestly, lady to lady, who asked you these questions?
Penny: I know I should say it but I’d rather take the blame.
Melissa: You shouldn’t.
Penny: But you know what, I’d rather take the blame.
Penny: Cuz that’s what I am.
Melissa: Sounds like you’re getting used and abused honey! Honestly, and I’m not being rude.
Melissa TH (this testimonial was recorded recently because she has her new, blonder hair, wearing the deep cut black top) – there is a reason this additional TH was added after the season premiered:
Penny definitely seems to be holding back. She’s almost looking me in my eyes telling me she’s not saying it all. With Teresa hanging over her shoulder, she just wasn’t going to let it out.
Melissa: Whatever it is. I have three kids. I’m very happy. Please! Stay out of my marriage.
Penny: I’m not getting involved in your marriage.
Melissa: OK. Hallelujah. Enjoy your night.
Penny: Same here. Have a good night (Penny walks away).
Melissa to Joe: What do you want me to do? I’m a lady. You want me to beat her up?
Teresa to Joe and Melissa: I need to say something and both of you need to hear this. I’m glad that we’re all good now, but you didn’t believe your own sister. I would never do anything to hurt you guys. And you should know that.
Melissa: We believe you! Go have fun. I want you to go and enjoy your thing, OK?
Melissa, are you happy now?! See, you had to hear it from the horse’s mouth. You should have just took my word from the beginning.
Teresa in a voice-over (walking around the crowd – could be out of sequence): Right now I’m on a high. I’m, like, really happy.
It’s like nothing adds up. I just feel like someone’s hands are a little bit dirty here. And I want answers.
Melissa to Joe: There’s a connection between Jan, Penny (Joe interrupts).
Melissa: To be honest with ya, I can’t tell which one’s lying.
In the video above, you will see various shots of the cast, notably Teresa speaking with Jan at 3:46 and Teresa, Joe, Kim D, Penny and Jan talking at the bar at 4:36. There is an interesting shot at 5:35 of Melissa being persuaded to go over to Teresa for a photo op of the two of them sharing drinks – Melissa goes over and clicks her drink with Teresa, chats for two seconds, and then turns her back and begins to talk with Joe.
Jan explained how she got involved with the show and how the conversation at the table at Bellissimos with Kim D, Penny, Jennifer Dalton and Teresa was edited to give the impression she was talking about Melissa, but she wasn’t.
The following is an excerpt from Jan’s interview with AllAboutTRH.
“There was something that went on Facebook that had upset me that she [Melissa] put up, and I was just over it. Out of nowhere, she calls me to go meet her for lunch. Again. She wanted to know if I told anybody about the night we were out at Sushi Lounge with Bryan. I said no, but of course there were other people there.
“So she asked me if I would come on and film with her to say that there was no meeting together. I didn’t really want to get involved, but she asked me to film because she needed girlfriends to go to lunch with her. Melissa doesn’t have a lot of girlfriends. She was like ‘Please, please, please,’ so I said alright.
“Now mind you, I denied a majority of the stuff because I just didn’t want to get involved in this.
“So we go out to lunch and after that, Kim D and Penny start calling me and my partner [of Jan’s hair salon, Teeze]. At first, they tried telling me that Teresa had a hair product line and she wanted it in my salon. Kim D has this guy Damien, who was friends with my old partner, set up a meeting behind my back with Penny, and they wanted to see if they could get me to come on the show.
“I said I didn’t want to get involved, but then they said it would only be about the hair products and Melissa wouldn’t be there. Kim D gave me the whole run around. My partner then begged me and said it’ll be good for the business.
“At the time, I was still mad at Melissa because she had used me to get information about Bryan and to deny all that stuff.
“So when we get there, they push Malcolm, who is my partner, to the side and they place me next to Penny to make it seem like we came there together.
“The night at Bellissimo’s [with Kim D and Penny], I was defending her [Melissa]. They were attacking her and ambushing her. And once again, I’m sticking up for her, and Bravo switched it up because apparently Penny has a lawsuit with Bravo, so they didn’t use her in that scene bashing Melissa. I don’t know, maybe they wanted to make it look realistic. I have no idea. The whole thing was just fake. They just started bashing Melissa. At the table, when they showed me saying all this stuff, it had nothing to do with Melissa. We were talking about an old boyfriend. It was just stuff that had nothing to do with Melissa. They re-arranged the entire conversation, which was really messed up.
“So then someone behind the cameras asks me to tell them about how Melissa cheated with Bryan, and I said no. I knew we went to dinner together, but I didn’t leave with them so I don’t know what happened.”
On August 19, 2013, Jan posted on her Facebook page a response to Melissa’s comment in an episode 12 testimonial that she wanted to bitch slap Jan: “And I welcome the bitch slap but we ALL know better – that Shit ISN’T EVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!” The following are screen shots of Jan’s other posts on her Facebook page.
Reality Tea reported on August 20, 2013 that Melissa’s former friends are ready to spill her secrets. According to their source, Melissa is intent on continuing the “victim act” at all costs. “She just wants to blame Teresa for everything. Melissa really needs a story line.”
Melissa Gorga Tells Us Weekly, “I’ve Never Cheated on Joe”; Melissa Sings Off Key with a Backing Track at Red, Hot and Boom in Orlando (Updated 8/28/2013)
In the July 10, 2013 issue of Us Weekly, Melissa says, “I’ve never cheated on Joe.” Her former best friend and bridesmaid Jan Marie DeDolce claims otherwise. In season 5 episode 6, Jan confirmed what other sources told FW, that Melissa was caught giving her ex-boyfriend Bryan oral sex in the parking lot of the Sushi Lounge in 2009, and Jan went on to say that, “he’s admitted that she blew him.” In the same episode, Jennifer Dalton told Melissa that Jan said, “You guys have been messing around on and off for a long time, for years.”
Us Weekly has had many pro-Melissa stories over the past year (or should we say anti-Teresa because all the stories featuring Melissa are her negative thoughts and lies about Teresa) that it is obvious there is a deal in place. And Melissa is a proven liar, a pathological one at that, so the sources coming forward to expose her past are more believable.
Melissa’s ex Bryan (whom she lived with for two years just before meeting Joe Gorga in 2003) made it clear that he never will appear on the Bravo network; and he confirmed on Twitter that his name was bleeped out of episode 6 because Bravo needs his permission to air it, and he turned them down, numerous times:
“@FauxRealityET @bulldog_nj @Bravotv they need his permission to air his name so they had to bleep it.” – Ellen Michelle White (@realwhitegirl1), July 8, 2013, Twitter
“@realwhitegirl1 @FauxRealityET yes they do & I turned down filming numerous times. Kinda funny for a man who was looking for fame & $ huh.” – Bryan (@bulldog_nj), July 8, 2013, Twitter
“All about hurting people and fame, $ I just don’t get it. It’s funny all the lies they perceive.” – Bryan (@bulldog_nj), July 8, 2013, Twitter
When a follower tweeted Bryan on July 8th, saying she was glad he doesn’t participate in the “BS with producers” and told him not to sign anything with Sirens Media (the producers of RHONJ) since they will “use you, abuse you and leave you to cleanup up your reputation (look what they did to Johnny, Penny’s husband)”, Bryan replied that “only a fool would be on the show” and said, “I haven’t signed a thing – I’m not that guy! Will never happen.”
Meanwhile, Joe and Melissa are working overtime to prove their relationship is “unbreakable.” Me thinks thou doth protest too much!
In other news, Melissa sang off key with a backing track at Red Hot and Boom 2013 in Orlando, Florida, over the July 4th holiday. Below are videos from the event.
Before her performance at Red, Hot and Boom, on June 28th Melissa co-hosted XL106.7’s morning radio show with Johnny House. According to FW reader Kay, during the show Joe said:
“With a sister like Teresa, that’s why I have a great body…working out to get out my frustrations…I was working out when I was 12 and Teresa would throw my toys out the window.”
Click on the image above or link below for a video of Melissa’s appearance on XL06.7, during which she sang her new single “Never Let Me Go” (released on August 25, 2013) live. For some reason the radio station waited until August 14, 2013 to upload the video – perhaps they were trying to spare her the embarrassment.
UPDATE: Shortly after bloggers found the video on August 28, 2013 of Melissa singing “Never Let Me Go” live, the radio station XL106.7 removed it from youtube, but you can watch it at the link above.
“Do yourself a favour. Watch the video! Bwahahahahaha!! She finally said in one sentence what we always thought: (1) She doesn’t like Teresa; (2) She doesn’t respect her husband’s relationship with his sister; (3) The truce was for show; and (4) Teresa’s sister-in-law is a monster.” – Sackem, August 28, 2013, Fame-Whorgas
Below is a photo of the Gorgas during their trip to Florida (it appears little Joey did not come to Florida with them).
A Little Ditty About Joe and Melissa
By Meri on July 12, 2013 at 10:29 PM
There once was a midget in Jersey,
Who was feeling very unworthy.
So he traveled to Lookers,
In search of a hooker,
And was fooled into lust,
By a gold digging huss,
Who went by the name of Missy.
Now Missy was yearning for fame,
Who Stumpy’s sister she had to blame.
So they jumped on the train,
We call famewhoring by name.
And were gleeful to lie,
For the pie in the sky!
Life for the unscrupulous couple,
Was paradise in a TV bubble,
As production was created by Kat.
But Teresa proved that she was all that!
So when she was fired,
Stumpy and Missy grew tired.
Well, Juicy and Rosie were getting along,
While Missy’s auto-tuned ridiculous song,
Couldn’t get on the charts.
And that only darkened their black hearts!
So they all went away,
To the mountains to play.
Stumpy and Missy had a plan up their sleeve,
To show Bravo they’d never leave.
The midget rushed Juicy in hopes that he’d fall,
But was sent flying into the wall.
Who would guess that Stumpy liked nuts?
And most likely other men’s butts!
So they screamed and they cried,
Can’t we have Juicy’s balls fried?
And that was the end of their fame!
Teresa Giudice Says Her Friends and Family Turned on Her and “Hate on Her Like It’s Their Full-time Job”; Melissa Gorga Denies the Cheating Allegations; Kim D Proudly Owns Being the Villain and Says She and Jacqueline Laurita are “Very Close”
Teresa Giudice’s Bravo blog for episode 6 was short and to the point, and the gist of it is in the excerpt below – she says her family and friends have turned on her and “hate on her like it’s their full-time job” (it kinda is):
I’m thinking of writing a new book about my life (since apparently writing four cookbooks doesn’t count…). I’m going to call it 50 Shades of Black & Blue.
In it, my own family members and friends I’ve had for 10 years turn on me. They hate me and hate on me like it’s their full time job. They sit around every day talking about me non-stop, even when I’m not there. They talk and talk and talk some more about how obsessed I am with them. They bang their hands and wave napkins and cackle about how crazy I am.
Meanwhile across town, people with cute 1950s names — Penny, Jan — that own salons come up to me saying they want to carry Milania Hair Care. Of course, I listen. Then they start talking trash about my sister-in-law. Of course, I stop listening. I get up and leave. Doesn’t matter though, because I am invisible now.
My family hears about the rumors and blames me. I am to blame for everything: when their ex-bosses and ex-boyfriends talk about them, when their friends stop liking them, when their house and records and books don’t sell. It is all my fault. Along with eclipses and the economy.
It does hurt that my family always assumes the worst of me. It hurts when they call me names. It hurts when I see tabloids with the “inside scoop” on my parents, my in-laws, and my marriage. But what can I do? Nothing because it’s only fiction. Right?
In Melissa’s Bravo blog for episode 6, she said she should have seen it coming when she decided to write an advice book on marriage and said, “I’m innocent of every disgusting thing those scheming ladies cooked up about me.”
Melissa: “I Don’t Know Who to Trust” (Excerpt)
By Melissa Gorga
Monday, July 08, 2013 3:53 PM
It wasn’t fun to come home to this episode. I honestly have no idea where to start. My head is still spinning. At this point, I don’t know who to trust. I don’t know what to believe.
I should have seen it coming. I write about marriage, so I’m accused of cheating. If I wrote about gardening, I’d be accused of planting plastic trees. I should write about friendship, something like, “The friends you make as a lonely teenager are not necessarily who you want in your life later on.” I thought I was being a good friend keeping ties long after we’d grown apart. Good intentions can get you stabbed in the back. It hurt to live through it, and to watch it play out. I’m still a bit in shock.
I’m not going to defend myself against what was said about me. I’m innocent of every disgusting thing those scheming ladies cooked up about me. I know who I am, and what I’ve done. My family and friends know it too. Like I said in the episode, I don’t like to put everything on Teresa and I DON’T. But there is something to be said about the company you keep. And when an accusation as disgusting as giving BJs is being discussed on national TV about your own sister-in-law, no matter how much you “don’t like her,” I think what most people would do is: immediately get up and walk away, reach out to their family to give them the heads up since the last time this happened it caused such a divide, and maybe not tweet that “It was a good night” so that your brother and his wife don’t think that you enjoyed hearing this.
Jacqueline in her Bravo blog said the episode “made me giggle” and is claiming her intrusion into Teresa’s family drama was her two-year attempt to “resolve everything with Teresa’s family.”
The Phone Fight with Teresa (Excerpt)
By Jacqueline Laurita
Monday, July 08, 2013 9:28 AM
This episode made me giggle. I remember the frustrations I felt at the time, because for so long Teresa had been out of sight, out of mind. Then all of a sudden her name kept popping up everywhere around me, and everyone kept talking about her and their family issues. Maybe it was because all of a sudden we were all together again. But who knows. I will try to take you back to how I was feeling at the time.
It just seemed odd to me that, miraculously, Teresa wanted to make an effort to resolve everything with her family, after I had been trying to make that happen for two years prior! Why now? I wasn’t buying into the sincerity of it all. At the time, I felt like it was all for show and not for real. On top of that, I was getting increasingly annoyed, because I heard that Teresa kept talking about me behind my back saying I was stalking her at “her” gym and blaming me for all of her family fighting. It annoyed me so much, because I knew that I had done so much to try to bring her family back together, and not only was it not appreciated, I somehow became the a–hole, and I felt like Teresa wasn’t taking any accountability for any of her own actions to cause the rift in her family.
When I heard Teresa had been with those catty girls she called her friends talking about Melissa, I couldn’t help but go back to what I knew last year. It appeared to me that Teresa was playing innocent again and letting her “soldiers,” as I called them, be her voice, in order to expose Melissa or make up lies about her in a way that would ensure nobody would like her or buy her new book. I kept thinking that if Teresa knew that these girls were on national TV trash talking her sister-in-law with those defaming accusations that she would want absolutely nothing to do with these girls again. It’s one thing to listen to them behind closed doors, but this salacious gossip was obviously being spread nationwide. Instead, it seemed as though Teresa embraced them.
Believe me, I totally get not wanting to get in the middle of someone else’s fight, because that is the way I am. I may listen to people talk out their frustrations, but I try to stay neutral and fair while I try to understand both sides.
Teresa’s bestie, Kim D., can definitely stir up trouble at times, but she will own up to what she’s done when confronted and almost always apologizes for it. She’s actually not a bad person once you get to know her. She can make me giggle at times. She has been through a lot in her life and she’s always worked hard as a single mom. When you talk to her, you understand her. Every single one of us, including Melissa, still shop at her store, Posche.
On her new WordPress blog, Kim D gives her take on episode 6, which was totally staged by production despite how she tries to spin it… it’s her job to convince us that the show is not contrived and partially scripted, so she’s just being a good employee. Andy seems to like Kim D (he even said he “loved” her last season), and she was a surprise guest on WWHL after the episode 6 premiere.