You Instigate, I Retaliate

It is a line Jennifer says in the reunion preview to Margaret: “You instigate, I retaliate”. It is supposed to be a play on Margaret’s tagline: “I renovate, elevate, and sometimes I instigate”. Melissa did post first, so Jen is retaliating. Melissa made a very passive aggressive dig at Jennifer, saying to watch the reunion, and then went on passive aggressively about Jennifer without referring to her name. In Melissa’s attempt at a dig was an implication that Jennifer kisses up to Teresa, or at least remains on the show because of her Tre friendship, so Jennifer’s comment about a sister-in-law is likely a reference to that.

“Joe is the housewife. Both he and Teresa are characters whereas Melissa just exists.”

Remember marble-gate? “This is fake, it’s phony. So what else in this house is phony?” Cut to Melissa gussying up 😂😂 that edit ☠️
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Caroline Manzo Is Trying to Breakup Teresa Giudice’s Family Because She’s Convinced Herself That Teresa Broke Up Hers; Kathy Wakile and Joe and Melissa Gorga Support Caroline’s Evil Plan to Defame Teresa

“I think Teresa has an agenda to drive a wedge against myself and family members, especially Dina.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Episode 18

“I hold Teresa responsible for the pain in my life and the relationships that are hurting.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Episode 18

“I hold Teresa responsible for the relationships that are hurting in my life. She puts the wood on my family’s fire, I put the lid on hers.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4, Episode 6

“The tipping point was the cookbook and all the stories I’ve heard about you over the years.” – Caroline Manzo to Melissa Gorga and Kathy Wakile About Teresa Giudice, Season 4 Episode 17

“I never really hung up with Caroline. I always hung out with her younger sister Dina and Jacqueline.” – Teresa Giudice, Season 4 Episode 18

“We were never really friends. She was an acquaintance; she was very good friends with my sister… I think Jacqueline suffered the biggest blow here… We vacationed together. We were in the same crew. We went to dinners a lot, but was there ever a time I would pick up the phone and say, ‘What are you doing?’ No. So there’s no friendship, and I’m not bothered by it.” – Caroline Manzo, October 12, 2011, The Gayle King Show

“Why did her own brother call her garbage? And the banging on the table thing? Must be a Gorga trait. Something in their DNA maybe? It just wasn’t adding up. Was I missing something? Teresa never talked that much about her brother or Melissa with me. I’d seen them at all of her parties, but never noticed if they talked to each other. I think I just assumed that all was well. Up until this point I hadn’t heard anything that would make me think there were such deep issues between her and her brother that he would call her garbage.” – Jacqueline Laurita, May 23, 2011, Second Bravo Blog for Season 3

“I’ve been in the car with her when she was on the phone with her mother, poisoning her mother’s mind against her brother and Melissa and Kathy.” – Caroline Manzo, Lying About Teresa Behind Her Back in Her Talking Head Interview, Season 4 Episode 17

“I’ve never heard one kind word out of Teresa’s mouth regarding Melissa. I have heard golddigger, whore, she was a stripper. I cannot be the length this person would go to hurt. I have the luxury of walking away.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Episode 18

Caroline Manzo is lying — Teresa didn’t talk trash about her family to her. Caroline is on record in October 2011 as saying she and Teresa were never really friends and that they were simply on the same crew. However, a month earlier, in September 2011, during season 4 episode 18, she tells Kathy and Melissa that Teresa talked bad about them to her for years. And in Caroline’s talking head interview, she even stretches the lie to include Teresa’s mother. Earlier, in May 2011, we have Jacqueline writing in her blog that Teresa never talked much about her brother or Melissa with her. So we are supposed to believe Caroline — even though Teresa was never her friend and she was only in her presence when Jacqueline or Dina were around — when she says that Teresa was trash talking her family to Caroline, yet Jacqueline heard nothing? Of course Caroline is lying. Jacqueline went against family with Danielle in season 1, and she learned her lesson about suffering the wrath of Caroline, so Jacqueline has changed her story to match Caroline’s, and Jacqueline is now lying too.

“Jacqueline posted in her online blog back in May 2011 (after the first episode with the infamous christening throwdown) that Teresa didn’t really mention Melissa and Joe G. to her, so she had no idea things were so bad between them and was surprised Joe called his sister garbage. So which is it? Weren’t Caroline and Jacqueline insisting that Teresa has been badmouthing her family for a long time? I remember the episode when Teresa was describing the ‘cookie-gate’ incident when she threw away Melissa’s Christmas cookies. Caroline wasn’t acting like she’d heard that story before. When has Teresa allegedly talked bad about her family, because we don’t really see her do it on camera? She talked about some of her issues with them, but Jacqueline and Caroline are insisting the Teresa was making her family out to be a bunch of horrible people with horrible pasts, and she didn’t want her friends to have anything to do with them. When was this? Jacqueline was still friends with Teresa in May 2011, and she had no reason to lie then about not having heard anything about Melissa and Joe. In fact, it seems common that a friend would vent to another friend about family problems they’re having, so I didn’t see anything really wrong with it in the first place, but Jacqueline is now changing her story. And when you think about it, Teresa is usually private about certain matters, like her finances and problems she’s having, so it seems consistent that she wouldn’t tell even some of her close friends about her family issues. Plus, how did Caroline get in the mix? She always says she and Teresa were never friends, and you never really see them hanging out alone. How could Jacqueline be in the dark about Teresa’s family issues, but Caroline was somehow privy to everything? When was she in a car with Teresa overhearing her talk to her mother? Teresa has been called out for some of her lies for the last two seasons, but it’s time for the rest of the liars to be brought out, too. Jacqueline was either lying then or lying now.” – blumarine, September 14, 2011, Lipstick Alley

At least three of Caroline Manzo’s 10 siblings are not speaking to her. Caroline can’t own her own bad behavior — she blames Teresa for all her broken relationships, especially the feud with her sister Dina Manzo. Dina has stated over and over again that her feud with Caroline and Jacqueline has nothing to do with Teresa.

“She [Teresa] didn’t do anything that I know of to hurt them it’s all BS…everyone should play nice. That’s what I think.” – Dina Manzo, June 24, 2012, Twitter

Someone tweeted Dina on June 24, 2012, “@dinamanzo can u clear that u n Caroline not talking has nothing to do w Teresa! Plz!”, and  Dina replied, “I’ve said it over and over…check out my blog on dinamanzo.com.”

“I love the season 1 reunion where Caroline freaks on Danielle. Dina and Jaq are nervously laughing and Caroline is like, ‘I should forgive…..*crazy eyes* but I CAN’T!’ You can hear Dina saying, ‘Hey, cut it out’ and ‘Don’t start this’.” – Diggory17, June 23, 2012, IMDb.com

“Caroline…We are all waiting on those emails. I caught a clip of reunion 3 with Caroline saying that she and Jax have emails of proof that Teresa caused Dina to stop talking to them (and Teresa replying, ‘Bring it baby’). I am STILL waiting, lol.” – violetrose1460, June 21, 2012, IMDb.com

Note that Teresa’s Fabellini Launch Party, which Dina attended and Bravo filmed on October 7, 2011, was after the big blow up at the Posche Fashion Show (PFS) on September 27, 2011 (the evening before the reunion for season 3 was filmed); however, based on previews, it looks like Bravo plans to air the launch party first (out of sequence), during episode 18 (video), and the PSF as part of the season finale (episode 19). Also note that the launch party was filmed more than a month after Caroline’s verbal assault on Teresa, which was instigated by Kathy in the hot tub scene during episode 17.

Timeline of Events Surrounding the Season 4 California Trip, Season 3 Reunion, Season 4 Finale:

• Washington, DC Fancy Food Show – July 8, 2011
• Melissa takes Gabriella, Milania and Antonia to Sweet & Sassy for manicures and pedicures – July 11, 2011
• Jamie Laurita’s wedding – July 23, 2011
• Beatstock 2011 in Farmingville, NY – August 20, 2011
• Caroline’s Birthday – August 23rd or 24th
• Cast Arrives in California – August 28, 2011 (cast spends 2 nights at Half Moon Bay RV Resort and 1 or 2 nights at Cassini Ranch)
• Caroline’s Birthday Dinner in the Vineyard – September 1, 2011
• Final Dinner at the House with the Big Blow Up Between Caroline and Teresa – September 2 or 3, 2011
• Posche Fashion Show (Season 4 Finale) – September 27, 2011
• Taping of the Reunion Special for Season 3 – September 28, 2011
• Fashion & Beauty Week 2011 at the Pleasantdale Chateau – October 3, 2011 (Caroline, Jacqueline, Melissa & Kathy attend and blacklist Teresa and Kim D)
• Teresa’s Fabellini Launch Party Taped for Season 4 – October 7, 2011
• Sirius XM Radio to Launch ‘Real Housewives Radio’ Taped for Season 4 – October 8, 2011
• Jacqueline tweets that Teresa is scum, etc. during premiere of reunion 3 – October 16 & 23, 2011

Jacqueline has always had a nasty habit of running to the press and being an insider on different stories. She will go to magazines, blogs, and will even direct message people on Twitter. When she does this, she will often say nasty things, depending on who she is mad at or how she is feeling.

“If I get hurt I get nasty, and I got nasty because I was hurt.” – Jacqueline Laurita, Season 4 Episode 15

Regarding Dina and Jacqueline, in September 2010, Jacqueline, holding a grudge against Dina about something, went to LynnNChicago with a story that Dina’s Project Ladybug Foundation was not legit; it caused Dina a lot of problems just as the project was getting up and running; and, to make matters worse, Caroline did not back Dina, probably because, according to an ‘inside source’ for Reality Tea:

“Project Ladybug was a charity started by ALL the Laurita sisters. When Dina went on the show [RHONJ], she took it over as if she was the founder and the blood, sweat, and tears behind it. She wanted the glory and the attention associated with Project Ladybug. She wanted to look like the hero.” Caroline and their other sister, Cookie Laurita, allowed Dina to take the lead and downplayed their involvement, but Dina “only speaks of Project Ladybug as if it were her own.” – ‘Inside Source’, March 10, 2012,  Reality Tea

“Dina has said many times she distanced herself from all of them, including Teresa. But she and Teresa did not fight, she just chose not to be around them because of RHNOJ. She ‘cooled’ the relationship. Dina and Caroline are a different story, which is all about project Ladybug. It was being attacked by bloggers back then, and Caroline would not defend Dina or the charity. Dina had access to Caroline’s Twitter and tweeted support using Caroline’s account! Lauren logged on and claimed her mom’s Twitter was ‘hacked’, and deleted the tweets! [@laurenmanzo ‘some1 hacked into my moms account and wrote the ‘please stop’ tweet… I changed her password everything is fine!’] That is the reason they don’t talk. It has nothing to do with Teresa.” – SODA1, August 6, 2012, Reality Tea

Apparently, there was an issue with Dina’s charity where something was filled out incorrectly on a tax form — it was a mistake, which was being corrected, but Jacqueline, hiding behind the title of ‘inside source’, gave the story to LynnNChicago. She made it seem like Dina’s charity was a fraud. Caroline wasn’t saying or doing anything to stop the bad press Dina was receiving. Then Dina went on Caroline’s Twitter page and tweeted support for herself as Caroline. In response, Lauren (or Ashley) went and said that Caroline’s Twitter had been hacked (basically denying that they were supporting Dina).

“Dina Manzo’s temper got the better of her once again this week as people have been questioning her Project Ladybug charity. A document that I posted a few days ago, that I received from a Twitter friend (@Geoaubsmom), has sparked the interest of many people questioning how their donations to Project Ladybug are being used… Between the parody accounts and the Project Ladybug.pdf getting tweeted often by me to followers, different people, including Dina, she got fed up. Dina started on a tirade about haters and tweetholes… If Project Ladybug is completely legitimate, Dina Manzo should have nothing to hide; her anger and using sick children to gain sympathy for her cause really has to make you question what she’s doing here.” – Lynn Hudson, September 29, 2010, LynnNChicago101.wordpress.com (The Story That Started Charitygate)

“In an internet radio interview, @Geoaubsmom asked Jacqueline Laurita outright on Twitter if she heard the recent interview that Carly Hall did regarding Dina Manzo’s Project Ladybug Charity. Here is Jacqueline’s response on October 17, 2010: @JacLaurita: @geoaubsmom ‘I have. What do you expect me to say? I’m not getting involved in that. So I will just say, NO COMMENT to all those asking’.” – Lynn Hudson, October 18, 2010, LynnNChicago101.wordpress.com

“LynnNChicago has added to ‘Project Ladybug Woes’ on her site. It has now become a collection of document(s) and screen-shots of bizarre TWITTER messages. People who have made innocent (ok, maybe skeptically innocent) inquiries into the PL (PROJECT LADYBUG) financials have been met with emotionally charged messages, like ‘you are trying to hurt sick children!!!’ to THREATS that they have been reported to ‘authorities’. Lynn’s blog is abuzz with talk of PL today, and one commenter posted a link to a recent newspaper article (August 2010) that boasts donations of $20,000.” – Dina’s Still Being Pestered About PROJECT LADYBUG, September 30, 2010, North Jersey.com

Other tweets about Charitygate from that day in 2010:

@tinalsanders
I AM WONDERING THE SAME THING. RT @Gracecharles @AMerems just got home. WTH has been going on with @dinamanzo #tweethole

@BlessedSD
RT @dinamanzo: RM~Carry a positive, thankful, forward-looking attitude with you & wherever you go, you’ll be … http://tmi.me/1Pw7p

@jipsee
RT @dinamanzo: It baffles my mind why people need to be so hateful. Be nice, teach your children to be nice. Remember, they learn by exa …

@tinalsanders
Wow there was lots of drama @dinamanzo today! Not sure what happened?!

@tweeterlaura
@dinamanzo fact that #projectladybug doesnt release audited financials is a red flag. donations to ronald mcdonald go farther for the cause.

@OnlyMattMartin
@dinamanzo good for you dina!!!

@Twilighttwitti
@RealOldHouswife So where’s 2009 expenses? I think they got lost in the form of a new closet. @dinamanzo

@jennifersale
@dinamanzo LOL, thanks, I’m going back to work now…

@dinamanzo
@jennifersale no worries Mama~I’m on it. They r basically being charged w slander &harassment When they start calling me, they’re askin 4it

@PutYourHairUp
I c u r trying Jac’s brand of PR. Not buying it sry. RT: @Teresa_Giudice @PutYourHairUp your blogs are hilarious xx @momsthoughts @dinamanzo

@Twilighttwitti
@RealOldHouswife That’s what we want to know and 2010. @dinamanzo Where are the financials? Who’s on the payroll? What’s your cut.

@jennifersale
@Twilighttwitti I didn’t say @dinamanzo was my good friend. She is helping my friend with PL, and that’s why I felt compelled 2 defend.

@LettyRod
RT @privilegedmom: @dinamanzo thank you for all that YOU do for our children! God will bless your kindness!

@Twilighttwitti
@jennifersale It looks to me that @dinamanzo just started following you, so she wasn’t that good a friend to begin with.Dina is a #tweethole

@tweeterlaura
@dinamanzo does. RT @Teresa_Giudice: @geoaubsmom no, never heard of it. who has time for real Twitter and fake Twitter??? xx

@jennifersale
Ok, I just got yelled at because ONCE AGAIN my #dwts recap is late b/c I’m an army of one for @dinamanzo …

@PutYourHairUp
RT: @ksmckenzie @dinamanzo ur mad at @LynnNChicago n @PutYourHairUp cause they dont buy ur bs b mad at Tommy cause he doesn’t want 2 touch u

So Jacqueline started a very damaging rumor about Project Ladybug and Caroline basically did nothing to defend Dina. Jacqueline is a busy body, and both she and Caroline are liars.

The story was also picked up by: http://realcityhousewife.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-dina-manzo/

“Jacqueline just seems to have a problem. PERIOD. I know I’ve read comments from fans who said she DM’ed them. I believe she’s putting a lot of stories out there. I know she was feeding Danielle information in season 1 — that’s how it got out Caroline was behind the book. I think Jackie told Danielle that Caroline said Dina was behind it.” – Miza, 08-28-2012, TWP

The source for the LynnNChicago blog about Dina’s charity is Jacqueline, and Jacqueline would not have planted this story without Caroline’s backing. Jacqueline was also the source for a September 30, 2010, LynnNChicago story about Teresa’s financial situation (Jacqueline’s go-to blogger at the time was Lynn). Here’s the excerpt from that blog:

“I have received some inside information that outlines Teresa and Joe Giudice’s plan to get out of this financial mess. The plan was told directly to my source by Teresa. The plan is for Teresa to take on all the debt (which she’s already done) and spend a few months making those payments to make it look as though she’s trying to make it right and then re-file the bankruptcy to eliminate all debt once again. I was told that she and Joe thought that they were smarter than the authorities and she was laughing. I’m told Teresa continues to spend money like she has a money tree because her plan is to dump it all into the new bankruptcy when she refiles early next year.”

Check out some of Jacqueline’s tweets that confirm she is the source:

Another disgusting display of Teresa’s lies. Keep hanging yourself!Tell every1 the plan 2file 4bankruptcy#2 @how u laugh At beating the system!

Teresa,keep spending all the money u do &making profit from people w/ fake stories u sell. It will catch up to u.U never stopped spending.

The people hiding behind your fake twitters(ahem)w/0-9 followers r pathetic. Grow balls&say who u r.U know who I am.I put it out there.

“Caroline is an extremely negative person. And she is a fool. She has demonstrated this past season the emotional monster she really is. It is clear to see why family members have distanced themselves form her. It is also clear why Teresa’s family joined the show and has caused much distress that should have never occurred. When you pick a camera over your family and morals, you are a selfish pig! When her nephew died, she was not invited to the funeral (her brother told her not to go.) What did Caroline do that make her brother hate her so much that he refused to allow her to pay respects at the funeral? Yet, knowing this, this woman wants us to believe she is innocent in all the battles she has with her many siblings and her own mother? Everyone is out to get Caroline? It’s clear Caroline does consider Teresa family: she gave her the same treatment she has given so many of her other siblings. This woman needs some mental health assistance. She is not stable. I have seen many times on Twitter Caroline’s mother repeatedly asking the Manzo kids to stop sending nasty, vulgar, mean tweets to their other various family members. This is separate from Teresa. Poor Grandma is embarrassed with how petty, cruel and juvenile both Caroline and her adult children continue to be in public to their own family. Is it any wonder they are cruel to people outside the family if they can not even show respect inside their family. It speaks volumes of Teresa’s character that when she was on WWHL, she mentioned that she wanted to go back in the room (during season 4 episode 17) and tell Caroline off, but then she remembered her friend, Dina, and her mother, Nettie, and chose to just walk away and let it go because of how Dina and Caroline always say how they don’t want their mother to worry. I wish everyone else had the same respect for mama and papa Gorga that Teresa has for Nettie Laurita.” – Say What??, August 27, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com

The Manzo/Laurita camp (probably with Jacqueline, under Caroline’s instruction, leading the effort), claiming to be inside sources, have been spreading rumors via the internet throughout 2012 (see article about Tom Murro) that Dina’s and Teresa’s friendship is a business relationship just for show.

AllAboutTRH Covered One of the Fake Stories Reported by Reality Tea

For those of you who don’t know, former New Jersey housewife Dina Manzo had a fallout with her sister Caroline Manzo and sister in law Jacqueline Laurita. Many are not exactly sure what the reason is but there have been several rumors starting from blaming Teresa and Dina simply being over the drama with her in law. Dina is known for being a ‘charitable girl’ and Jacqueline “sources” recently told Reality Tea that everything is all for show including her friendship with Teresa Giudice.

From Reality Tea:

“Little Mrs Charity……is not who everyone thought she was,” our source asserts. “Dina’s social media image is SO farfetched from who the ‘real’ Dina is. Those who really know her just shake their heads and laugh.”

If you’re wondering if Dina and Caroline Manzo have patched things up, the answer is no. They’re still not speaking; nor is Dina speaking to Jacqueline. Many have wondered how Dina could continue her friendship with Teresa, particularly after all the drama with Caroline, and the answer is money! Apparently, the two have a completely business relationship built around mutual favor.

“Teresa taped a segment for her party planning show, Dina’s Party. She needs Teresa to help her with her popularity. In return, Dina attended her beverage launch party and was filmed by Bravo. Their interaction was so fake,” the insider describes.

“Dina also wants to come out with a book and she wants to use the same publishing house as Teresa. So, basically it is a business deal. Dina may take to Twitter to praise Teresa but, that is not what she claims behind the scene.”

So how did Dina respond to this? She wrote:

“@realitytea hey just read ur post! Next time u want a source #truth ask my parents or the parents of a ladybug not an envious loser! Thanks!”

Well well well, I wonder who Dina is talking about! It sounds like Jacqueline is behind this story. Jacqueline has given scoops about RHONJ and also provided a nasty scoop about her sister-in-law Dina to LynnNChicago that she was warned about. I wonder why Chris Laurita, Dina’s brother and Jacqueline’s husband, doesn’t ever stop Jac? If it was Jac behind this story, that’s just sad. Another reason I think it’s most likely Jacqueline is because when word got out that Dina filmed a little part with Teresa on season 4, Jacqueline messaged me about it and called out Dina for doing it:

“For someone who claims she wants to ‘AVOID drama’ she sure picked a heck of a time to go film with Teresa when she would never film with her own family and then she tweets some of the antagonizing comments that mostly only her family understand, and also she sent that blog the way she did to cover her tracks. She claims to be ZEN.”

http://www.allabouttrh.com/dinaresponds/

More tweets from Dina after the story broke out:

Jacqueline Gave an Exclusive Interview to LynnNChicago, Posted on April 23, 2012

“There is a Trump connection, they have the same publicist company and the charity that Teresa is playing for is also Trump’s” Jac told me.

Fascinating! Jacqueline told us that Teresa’s Celebrity Apprentice charity NephCure Foundation is one that is near and dear to Trump and that Teresa may have chosen it with a little nudge from Trump’s people as she met this family at a Trump event. Regardless of why she chose it, it is an excellent charity.

Jacqueline confirmed that Dina Manzo had hopes that Teresa would chose her charity, “Project Ladybug” and that it would explain why Dina broke her vow to avoid all of the Jersey Housewives and film with Teresa.

Jacqueline brought up Dina Manzo, she told me that her sister-in-law doesn’t speak to any of the Housewives,

“Dina doesn’t talk to any of us anymore, she decided to stay away from all of us that were involved with the show, she wanted to be on her own”.

Before I could ask about Dina’s involvement with Teresa, Jacqueline offered,

“Teresa reached out to Dina and I still don’t know why Dina agreed to film with her, they’re not friends now.”

I asked Jacqueline what she thought of Dina’s show, “well, it got picked up for another season” was all I could get out of her.

“I don’t think Caroline is finished with Teresa yet. Caroline has done nothing but grow angrier and more hateful as this season has progressed because the majority of the viewers haven’t supported her against Teresa. I think Caroline is used to getting her way and whatever she wants, and she is just livid because she and her family aren’t the breakout stars of the show. The Manzo & Laurita products haven’t been doing well, no matter how they try to hype it to us, is another sore point. With Dina showing up to support Teresa in an upcoming episode, I’m sure Caroline will be loaded for bear during the reunion. My prediction is Caroline will fabricate something horrendous about Teresa and reveal it on the reunion with at least Jacqueline backing her up (maybe Melissa & Kathy too). Caroline is always spouting she is all about truth and telling it like it is, but she isn’t and doesn’t. With some checking, you would be surprised. She’s like Melissa… deny, deny, deny until she gets caught. She thinks if she gets in your face and spews like she did last reunion that makes her believable… NOT. I find it ironic someone would actually back an advice book for her — that’s just too funny. Anyway, you ‘HEARD IT HERE FIRST,’ as Caroline says, regarding the reunion… hope I’m wrong and I hope Andy stays neutral, fair and balanced.” – Trippin-it, September 1, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

Bravo Video: The Red Angry Bird (Everyone Speculates About “the Change” in Caroline Manzo)

The Top 10 Reasons for Caroline’s and Jacqueline’s Feud with Dina and Why They Blame Teresa and Not Themselves

1. Jacqueline, holding a grudge against Dina about something, went to LynnNChicago with a story that Dina’s Project Ladybug Foundation was not legit; it caused Dina a lot of problems just as the project was getting up and running; and, to make matters worse, Caroline did not back Dina.  According to an insider [detailed above]: “Project Ladybug was a charity started by ALL the Laurita sisters. When Dina went on the show [RHONJ], she took it over as if she was the founder and the blood, sweat, and tears behind it. She wanted the glory and the attention associated with Project Ladybug. She wanted to look like the hero.” Caroline and their other sister, Cookie Laurita, allowed Dina to take the lead and downplayed their involvement, but Dina “only speaks of Project Ladybug as if it were her own.”
2. Caroline blames Dina for her losing out on her cookbook deal, which she believes Dina helped Teresa get. Jacqueline claimed that the Manzo/Laurita clan had the idea first and Teresa stole her business ideal with the help of Dina.
3. Caroline stole Jamie’s wedding from Dina as a payback for her losing the cookbook deal. Jamie’s siblings where so appalled by this that they boycotted the wedding and refused to be filmed on Bravo. Jamie has 10 brothers and sisters and only two came, the ones who star in the RHONJ, Chris and Caroline. Dina asked her brother Jamie to film his wedding on her TV show (Dina’s Party, HGTV) and Jamie agreed, ONLY to have Caroline entice Jamie to consider Bravo since it would get him more exposure and would help give Caroline a boost. (Jamie also is hoping to get his own cooking show on Bravo, maybe even with Albie and Chris Manzo.) This is why Jamie said he had to throw a wedding together in less than a month — it was last minute because Jamie changed his mind and chose Bravo, and Bravo needed to squeeze it into season 4 filming.
4. Bravo only agreed to film Jamie’s wedding if Teresa was invited. In summary, the unofficial story is that Caroline stole Jamie’s wedding from Dina, who wanted to feature it on her HGTV show, Dina’s Party, which would explain why the wedding was so rushed, and why only two, Chris Laurita and Caroline Manzo, out of 11 siblings (and only their mother and not their father) attended. Teresa told Caroline during reunion 3: “You stabbed her in the back”; Jacqueline said in season 4 episode 6: “Teresa told Dina that Caroline said she’s going to try to take her down, business-opportunity-wise.” The accusation is that Caroline stole the wedding idea from Dina – Caroline knew Andy would jump on the idea and that Jamie would as well because the audience for RHONJ is much larger than Dina’s HGTV show. Featuring Jamie’s gay wedding on Dina’s struggling show, which is all about parties, would have helped put it on the map.
5. According to Chris Stark: “The Brownstone is owned by Caroline’s husband and Dina’s husband (they are brothers). Yet Caroline’s sons Albie and Christopher are hawking Brownstone Sauce… is this the other business deal that has caused a rift between Dina and Caroline? The Manzo boys tried to hawk the Brownstone sauce and BLK water in season 4 (filmed in 2011) and it has been unsuccessful. They are now trying to go after Dina’s and Teresa’s fan base — the Manzos hired a PR team which told them to play nice with Dina’s and Teresa’s fans and to stop alienating them (this is why the Manzos are on the cover of Us Weekly and the video with their false stories of everyone getting along).”
6. Teresa took the spotlight from Caroline and her family. It was supposed to be a show about Caroline’s family with Teresa as the spacey sidekick. Caroline is becoming unhinged/manic in her desperate attempts to make Teresa look bad and get everyone around her, as well as the viewers, to hate her as well. Teresa is the star and this kills Caroline, and this is why Caroline is filled with contempt and has such a hate smirk on her face. Punta Cana happened on February 23, 2011, near the end of season 3 filming. Teresa accidentally sprayed a women in the Hard Rock Cafe when she opened a bottle of champagne. According to reports, the woman’s son-in-law and his cousin did not take kindly to the rowdy group and physically attacked Teresa. “Joe, Albie and Chris were trying to protect Teresa and they just grabbed the guy and started fighting, and then people joined in. Bravo helped to break up the fight,” added the source. Caroline blames Teresa for her sons being detained and held in jail, and for making her kids look bad to the public. The Manzo boys were trying to get a spinoff show and Caroline believes the incident put everything to a halt. As we all know, Caroline’s boys are faultless and cannot be messed with in the way the Manzos mess with others. Caroline already disliked Teresa, but after Punta Cana, she was done with her.
7. From an insider commenting at Reality Tea on September 17, 2011: “Teresa is very close with Dina. Although Teresa was always the closest with Dina, and made friends with her first, Caroline is beyond big headed. Caroline turned on Teresa because she is pissed at Dina and taking it out on Teresa. She is angry that Teresa does not jump when she speaks, like Jacqueline does. Caroline expects everyone to listen to her, and when they don’t, all hell breaks loose. This is why she likes Melissa, who only kisses Caroline’s ass to spite Teresa. The fight [on Jacqueline’s deck] occurred conveniently and scheduled right before Melissa’s single release party. On camera, Caroline and Jacqueline try to cover up the issue and act as thought they are mad at Teresa for something else, but the real issue is that Teresa is friends with Dina and Dina and Caroline are not speaking.”
8. From an insider commenting at Reality Tea on September 17, 2011: “What infuriated Caroline even more, and helped lead to the blowout quicker [during season 4 episode 17  — the hot tub scene and fight between Caroline and Teresa], was the fact that Teresa listened to what Danielle had to say regarding Melissa contacting her. Teresa was already aware of Melissa reaching out to Danielle, but was in denial until the WWHL Twitter war. Caroline honestly did not want to go through sticking up for Teresa because that would mean she would simultaneously be confirming that Danielle was correct.“
9. Jacqueline gave Danielle all the information about Dina’s custody battle so she could use it as ammunition against Dina. Remember during season 2 that Jacqueline said it was Dina going after Danielle, but it was really Caroline! Jacqueline stabbed Dina in the back and caused trouble with her custody battle… how’s that for a loyal sister-in-law (no wonder she defends Melissa over her long-time friend Teresa — they are two peas in a pod)? [Apparently the footage of the dinner in the season 1 finale, where Teresa flipped the table, captured a conversation between Jacqueline and Caroline about Dina. I watched it again but I can’t make out what is being said.] Another theory is that Danielle didn’t go to the producers to try to cause problems for Dina: it was Lexi’s aunt who asked Danielle about it and Danielle confirmed that both parent’s needed to give permission for Lexi to be on camera, and then Danielle gave the aunt the producer’s number, which she gave to Lexi’s father. At the reunion, Caroline was crying and saying, ‘You know what you did!”, and was pointing at Danielle. She was overly dramatic and never actually revealed what the problem was, which is her M.O. Caroline was the one who was upset when it should have been Dina, who was trying to stop them from talking about it. Caroline spun that story likes she spins everything, and both Jacqueline and Caroline were the ones stirring the pot and bringing up on camera Dina’s custody issue, which she wanted to remain private [see viewer comments from IMDb.com, which are near the end of this article].
10. Caroline has NEVER supported ANYTHING that Dina has done, not her charity, or her new TV show (and her talking her brother out of featuring his wedding on Dina’s show and airing it on Bravo instead was the nail in the coffin).

Danielle even stated years ago that there were many issues and problems amongst the Manzo/Laurita clan prior to being on the show and none of them involved Teresa or anyone else. Look at the fact that Caroline has severed ties with most of her family (she didn’t even attend her nephew’s funeral). It’s been that way long before Teresa and herself had issues. One of the reasons and the major reason Dina left the show was because her family was changing due to being on TV!

‘The Fight’ Between Jacqueline and Teresa with Caroline Showing Up Later on Jacqueline’s Deck as Explained by Dina Manzo on Her Website

http://www.dinamanzo.com/press/the-truth/

Dina revealed on October 24, 2011, that she rekindled her friendship with Teresa after Teresa came crying to her following a confrontation with Caroline and Jacqueline during season 4 filming:

“It wasn’t until VERY recently that Teresa showed up at my doorstep in tears…apparently Caroline & Jacqueline had a sit down with her on camera (for season 4) and she felt attacked. All I did was console a friend who was obviously shaken. I felt bad for her..even though I had distanced myself from her a bit I was still her friend and she needed me. I did miss my God daughter and the rest of her girls and I’m not proud to say that in staying away from her I had stayed away from them too. Within a few weeks I went to Teresa’s house to spend Audriana’s 2nd birthday with Teresa and her family. No camera’s, no drama just a nice family night the way things used to be…Teresa has been nothing but supportive of Project Ladybug through the years and is extremely supportive of my new show on HGTV. She tweets about it all the time AND watches when she can as a friend should.”

Dina confirmed that she did indeed film with Teresa for the upcoming 4th season:

“Teresa and I briefly spoke about her broken relationship with her brother on camera. I gave her my best advice and told her to focus on all the good in her life and if her brother is meant to be a part of her life again he will be one day.”

When it comes to Teresa’s diss of her sister Caroline in her cookbook, Dina claims Teresa only meant it as a joke:

“She mentioned the drama with her and Caroline and I told her that if this is all about a joke in a book (and she assured me it was) that’s not enough for me to hate the mother of my God daughter and a friend of 15 years. Was it necessary to write that stuff in her book? probably not but I don’t think it was written with malice either. We are all guilty of joking a little too much now & then…”

As for her strained relationship with not only Caroline, but also Caroline’s kids, Dina stated:

“I feel bad that my relationship with my sister and her family is strained, but I can assure you that one day it will be back to the way it was. I don’t like fighting, I don’t like drama, I don’t like confrontation, I don’t agree with ganging up on someone (one of the other reasons why I left season 2) and I don’t need to share anymore than that. I am not on this show anymore, I didn’t sign on for opening up every aspect of my life to the world for the rest of my life when I signed that Bravo contract.”

“The Manzo family crest is a jackass riding a high horse.”

It is not a coincidence that Melissa’s sister Kim Pirrella and Queenzofmedia are both tweeting about Dina Manzo. Melissa and her sisters are their inside sources, but we know they all lie, so don’t believe any of their stories. RHONJ has turned dark, mean and ugly since Melissa joined: dark, mean and ugly describe the Marco sisters perfectly.

Kim Pirrella ‏tweeted during episode 17 (August 27, 2012), which previewed Dina’s appearance during season 4 episode 18. She seems to be jealous of Dina, probably because she and her sister Lysa want to be cast on RHONJ or get their own show featuring the three Marco sisters.

QueenzOfMedia @bobbiescar @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice unless. Dina was not aware this took place..sometimes things are not as they appear. 2:00 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @rhonj_babble @baybabeez @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice i will never reveal my source. 12:58 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @Ann72079428 @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice ok love. i hope this wasn’t said also…that would make dina and teresa absolute cunts. 12:53 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @kodiac33 @dinamanzo why? you’d have to ask Teresa…and Then ask Dina why what was said was said..i’m just reporting. 12:48 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @sweeetbea @RealOldHouswife @tiffmc1013 @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice oh i Rt’d it..she said ” it didn’t deserve a reply & i am a piece of crap 12:44 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @RealOldHouswife @dinamanzo apparently not…Zen people are always full of crap…oops! 12:29 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @SybillAnn @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice @RealOldHouswife from my understanding Dina never forgave Jac for season 1 defending Danielle. 12:26 AM Aug 30th from web

Irishladylisa @Doxielover_03 @imajustsaying @dinamanzo @queenzofmedia I never bought into Dina little miss innocent act 12:19 AM Aug 30th from Twitter for iPhone retweeted by QueenzOfMedia

dfwrax @rawhidevelvet @dinamanzo @queenzofmedia also just confirming how she is the worst out of all of them @daniellestaub was right about her! 12:16 AM Aug 30th from Twitter for iPhone retweeted by QueenzOfMedia

QueenzOfMedia @AsianPosh1 @CaliMommy09 @dinamanzo remember season 1 Dina said some very nasty things…. 12:03 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @AsianPosh1 @dinamanzo i wish it weren’t so… but…it was brought to the attention of Bravo..it will be discussed at reunion. 12:00 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @dinamanzo is that your official response? 11:46 PM Aug 29th from web

dfwrax @QueenzOfMedia @dinamanzo would say something like that.truly cold hearted @daniellestaub only 1 who stood up to her! That’s why Dina left! 11:41 PM Aug 29th from Twitter for iPhone retweeted by QueenzOfMedia

QueenzOfMedia Breaking #RHONJ News.. #Sourced … Leaked Reunion Topic discussion involving @dinamanzo & @Teresa_Giudice I have just received some very upsetting information from my source…& it has been confirmed by other sources …. Last year… during filming… after Jacqueline’s infant son, Nick, was diagnosed with autism, Teresa had a conversation with Jacqueline. Teresa reportedly told Jac that Dina said “Nick’s autism was karma for Jacqueline.” …(pick your jaws up off the floor, i know mine is still there.) This issue is such a big deal it will be brought up at the reunion by Andy Cohen… Now the question is…did Dina actually say this? Or did Teresa make it up? …not so zen is it? 11:38 PM Aug 29th

More nasty tweets by QueensOfMedia here.

Queenzofmedia are misinformation specialists. In other words, it’s all lies. So don’t believe anything they print. The Marco sisters are tight with them, and they suck up to Melissa (their faux celebrity), WHICH IS WHY TERESA SHOULD NEVER TRUST MELISSA, EVER! MELISSA AND HER SISTERS ARE USING QUEENZOFMEDIA TO DO THEIR DIRTY WORK SINCE THEY WERE CALLED OUT FOR THEIR NASTY TWEETS AND PLANTING STORIES ABOUT TERESA IN THE BLOGS AND TABLOIDS.  Not only does QueenzOfMedia have ties to the Marcos, they hate the Giudices, and they have a bone to pick with Penny Drossos and Johnny Karagiorgis. So QueenzOfMedia will say anything to bring down the Giudices as well as Penny and Johnny.

The cast is baiting Teresa with their blogs. She took the bait after season 4 episode 17 and attacked back in her blog, but now she needs to keep her cool. She should do what she did with The View and refuse to tape the reunion with them — they haven’t talked to her in a year, so she should continue to steer clear of them. She needs a separate segment or do what Jac did and don’t show up for the reunion. Let them sit around and talk about how wonderful they are and how terrible she is. She cannot defend herself against a pack of liars.

She forgave them for their indiscretions but they refuse to forgive her. When they can’t find a reason to hate her, they make up lies. They project their flaws onto her. Everything they accuse her of doing is what they are guilty of doing to her.

Here’s Caroline’s latest rant about Teresa:

“I had to get involved, because [Teresa] looked directly at me and asked me a question. And I had no intention of saying a word, not a word, because I was exhausted. You can see in my face that I just wanted the trip to end. I was exhausted from it. And I was asked a direct question. And if you’re going to be so brave as to ask me a direct question and knowing what the answer is going to be, I’m going to give it to you. And that’s what happened. There was nothing fun about it. I don’t relish any moment of it. I don’t look at that and say “winner” or “loser,” whatever the case may be. It was an ugly moment in my life that I want to forget. And I hope that I never have to deal with that again. It’s not fun. It’s not nice. There’s nothing to be proud of there. And the endgame was that’s the way I had to handle what was. That’s all. I have a very clear understanding of what is. There could be forgiveness if it’s asked. I’m big enough to say that I was rude and obnoxious and very hard on [Teresa], which I was. But, that’s the level she brought me to. But, you still haven’t apologized for what you’ve done to any of us, not just me, to any of us. And until there’s a real legitimate apology, I’m not interested. So, why would I go back into the lion’s den? I said what I had to say. I was very blunt and very matter of fact in what I had to say. I don’t regret it. I regret that I had to do it, but I don’t regret those words because my conscience is clear now and I’m good. I don’t need to go back there. Why would I do that? I just don’t think she treated her family and friends with any kind of dignity or respect. And I think that’s sad, because everybody was there for her. – Caroline Manzo, August 27, 2012, Celebuzz

Teresa, Caroline doesn’t have a dog in this race so she has nothing to lose by going after you. They aren’t her family members. She doesn’t care about them or you. Don’t take the bait. Bravo wants her to get a rise out of you like Danielle did in season 2 with Melissa’s help. Your cousin and SIL are out for your blood. It’s in the footage and in their blogs. That’s all the evidence you need. Don’t react, don’t attack back… be the bigger person. You can’t argue with liars…they just cover one lie with another and another until you begin to question your own memory and then your own sanity…you can never resolve an issue with a liar. The best thing for you to do is ignore them and not respond to their lies… if you constantly defend yourself against their false accusations, you eventually will become consistently shrill and defensive.

Teresa, they truly want to hurt you. They want the show for themselves and their families and friends. They want you gone. They want to turn the viewers against you. Most importantly, they want Bravo to be against you. You are better off without Bravo. Get through season 5 being as fake as the rest of them. Then move on to another network, and make sure your contract gives you executive producer privileges. Protect your marriage, children and parents from any further humiliation.

Teresa, Melissa admitted to contacting Danielle to give her dirt on you because she hated you — she never stopped hating you — every episode is just an act. And when she tells the camera that she is doing everything possible to bring you and Joey together, we all know she is full of it… I’m amazed she has any fans at all. Of course she is the reason for the rift in your family. She and her sisters do not want you to have a relationship with your brother. And as long as he is married to her, you won’t… and there is nothing you can do about that, so let it go, no matter how much it hurts.

Teresa, no good will come from you telling Caroline how you feel about her. Jacqueline is a member of her family so she has to show her loyalty to Caroline, no matter how horrendous her behavior is. Your family doesn’t show you that kind of loyalty. Caroline is trying to destroy your relationships with your family the way she believes you destroyed her relationship with Dina. But we all know she did that on her own.

Teresa, everything Caroline accuses you of doing, she is guilty of doing — projecting her own flaws onto you and ‘blame shifting’ as Jacqueline likes to call it. She blames you for her hatred and says you brought her to this level — she can’t even own her anger — it’s always your fault. You will never win with these people. And she has her army of idiots — her spouse and offspring, and Jacqueline, Kathy and Melissa and their spouses and sisters — to back her up (they failed to back her up during the hot tub scene, but they learned their lesson and won’t let that happen again). Don’t go up against that army. They are merciless. They are liars. They are despicable. They are ruthless people. She is putting wood on the fire, not you. She is out to destroy you just like she said Albert would destroy your husband. Stay away from them for the sake of your children, your husband and your parents.

In the next episode (episode 18), Caroline says this about Teresa:

“I think Teresa has an agenda to drive a wedge against myself and family members.”

Yet it is obvious to anyone without prejudice toward Teresa that this is what Caroline is doing to her!

Here is what Caroline said about Teresa’s relationship with Dina in her October 21, 2011 Bravo blog:

“Teresa claims that the biggest hurt of all is watching her parents deal with the pain of their children fighting while the nation watches. So my question is this — Teresa knew how important it was to me to keep the Dina issue hidden, but tried numerous times throughout the season and through her blogs and interviews to reveal it. She finally had her moment at the reunion. Did she think I would deny it? Congratulations, Teresa, the only thing you succeeded in doing was hurting my parents. What a fool I’ve been in my efforts to bring your family together when it was your intent to destroy mine from the start. Shame on you. I’ve been asked by numerous publications to tell my story regarding Teresa and Dina and have denied them all, because I refuse to glorify an already sad situation. Teresa may think she hurt me, but what she doesn’t understand is that she can never hurt me, because I take into account where it’s coming from. Unlike you, Teresa, I can look in the mirror and hold my head high knowing that I have always given the best of myself to my family and friends. I live my life with integrity and self-respect.”

Teresa, heed the warning of a great man of God, Charles Haddon Spurgeon: Expect trouble, for foes are everywhere, but do not enter the thicket with the lion, for he that meets with him, even though he wins the day, will find it a stern struggle.

Cara on May 28, 2012 at 12:43 pm said on AllAboutTRH.com:

Granted, this is all just speculation so discussing who should be off the show is kind of pointless. However, I think if we look at past behavior and things that cast members have said themselves, that should dictate how they should be reacting to what is going on now and that should give us an indication of who should WANT to be off the show. Dina is a perfect example.

Dina said from the very beginning that she has “no patience for drama”. And she cut it right out. She stood by her word and by the middle of season two was so fed up with the BS from Danielle and the effect it was having on her life that she left the show.

Dina’s actions actually matched her words. She has integrity and that says a lot about the strength of her character. In other words, she doesn’t talk shit. When she says something, she MEANS it. And as Dina illustrated, if you are going to complain about drama in your life, you DO have a choice in cutting it out.

Then look at Caroline. She in on this show with Teresa who she now can’t stand. She claims that Teresa is the source of drama and nonsense in her life. She also claims that “Life’s too short. I have no time for drama” (her new tagline this season). Well, she DOES have a choice in the matter. The first choice would be to stop involving herself in someone else’s family conflict. She doesn’t have to constantly be sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. Her second choice would be to get herself OFF the show if it bothers her so much.

In this case, Caroline’s words do NOT match her actions. She puts herself right in the thick of the drama despite claiming that she has no time or tolerance for it. To me, that says she has no integrity. And really, if she had no “time” for drama that would mean she is too busy for it and wouldn’t even grant an audience. But she seeks it out because she has nothing else going on! She wouldn’t go around asking Melissa and Jacqueline questions about the Teresa/Joey situation if she truly had “no time” for drama. Obviously she has the time to pencil the drama in.

Also, look at the relationships here. Caroline sees nothing odd about the fact that there was no drama with Teresa until Melissa entered the picture? She knew Teresa for fifteen years prior to that. She is just now seeing all these problems with Teresa after fifteen years of NEVER having a problem with her? Something is wrong there. Maybe she should be looking at Melissa.

And then look at Teresa and Dina’s relationship. It is totally unscathed. What is missing? Melissa. And doesn’t it say a lot that Dina – who is allergic to drama – has had no involvement in this Teresa/Joey situation, but she is still friends with Teresa and not talking to CAROLINE and JACQUELINE? She severed her Bravo contract because she didn’t want to deal with the BS anymore; and out of everyone in the cast, the one person that she has kept in her life is Teresa. She has cut out two of her own family members but remained friends with Teresa. But Caroline wants us to think Teresa is the PROBLEM?

All of these things are indicators that a storm started brewing the moment Melissa and Joey came onto this show. Caroline must really think Bravo viewers are idiots to not remember all of these things. And seriously, if she hates Teresa that much that it’s creating so much negativity in her life….go off into the Franklin Lakes sunset and life your life, Caroline. If positive things are in store for you, let them happen. Just like your sister did.

lollybomb on May 24, 2012 at IMDb.com:

This is reaching far into my memory bank (this was all over the web after Dina left that there was a falling out between them), but yeah it was the whole Caroline trying to make it seem like Dina could lose Lexi over something Danielle did but it was really losing the right to film with Lexi not a custody thing. Dina not only wanted to keep this on the down low but it was exaggerated by Caro. If you watch the reunion when it is brought up, Dina’s face says it all.

The other thing I heard at the time is that Dina did not care for Caroline’s I-hate-everyone-but-family attitude. It’s my own personal opinion that Dina has cut ties with the Manzos so that they could no longer put her private stuff out there for the world to see… if you remember, Dina’s hubby is real private too [he turned into a “private guy” and didn’t want to be filmed after he was mortified over ‘editing’ in his and Dina’s VH1 wedding special]– unlike Albert, he refused to be on camera.

parkguy505 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Jacqueline was the one who got in the heated exchange with Danielle at the season 2 reunion about Dina, not Caroline. Caroline tried to stop the conversation, but Jacqueline had already let the cat out of the bag. So no, that is not the reason Dina isnt speaking to Caroline.

parkguy505 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Lolly, all your info is incorrect. Jacqueline is the one who brought up the Danielle/Dina/custody issue, not Caroline. Caroline tried to stop the conversation.

And yes, Danielle DID try to get Dina in trouble with her ex over the Bravo contracts and Lexie.

And NO, Dina’s husband isn’t super private, because before this show ever aired Dina and her husband were on one of those “My big giant rich Wedding” shows. I think after the bad publicity he got after that, he decided another reality show was not for him.

parkguy505 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Lolly, you are right about Caroline crying and making a scene at the season 1 reunion! I thought you meant at the season 2 reunion when Jacqueline actually revealed what the issue was.

sonomagirl2120 on May 24, 2012 at IMDb.com:

This is what I read on the internet so I am not sure how true it is…..Dina left the show in mid season and asked Caroline not to speak of Dina’s daughter on the reunion. Caroline and Danielle got into a heated discussion during the reunion and Caroline said it was Danielle’s fault that Dina almost lost custody of her child. Dina did not appreciate the comments and felt her sister was exaggerating and exacerbating a delicate family matter. Dina had Lexie on the show in Season 1 but Lexie’s father did not want the girl filmed so she was not featured in Season 2. Dina and her ex are most likely walking on eggshells trying to maintain a civil relationship in the best interest of their daughter so Caroline’s public accusations did not help a sensitive situation. Not sure how true this all is….

Lazaka on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Just to add, she also wrote (or said) either in her blog, twitter or interview, that she didn’t talk to any of the cast members for a while after she left, including Teresa; and it wasn’t because she was mad at them. Teresa called and she welcomed her with open arms because she never did anything bad to her. I’m paraphrasing there and also thinking she meant that Teresa was the only one who didn’t bring up Dina/Lexi on the reunion. She said that Teresa did tell her that she’s no longer getting along with Caroline and Jac (I believe) and she said that Teresa never did anything to come in between her and Caroline.

Just for the record OP, it was not Caroline who brought up Dina/Lexi, that was all Miss Jacqueline, when Danielle defended herself against these accusations saying “I would never do that!” (regarding having Lexi taken away) and Caroline sat there and mouthed and shook her head “oh no….” sort of like “yeah right you didn’t” then Miss Jacqueline in all her 40 years pointed at Danielle like a 5-year-old and said “yes you did, I saw the proof!” and Caroline shook her head in agreement. Dina was tweeting that night and she was pissed.

The point that everyone else is making is that we really don’t know the truth (sort of like the Giudice/Gorga and the elusive Wakile fight). Dina says there are reasons she’d rather not talk about, Jacqueline won’t speak of them, and Caroline just plain blames Teresa. Who the hell knows with these women lol. I do know that Caroline also blames Teresa for all the strain she’s having with her siblings in this upcoming episode and I’m preeeeettty sure Teresa is arrested for the shooting of Treyvon Martin. I mean she must be responsible for that too in Caroline’s mind, right?

Sigh Die on September 12, 2012 at Television Without Pity:

I don’t recall Dina ever saying anything of the sort about Danielle nearly costing her the custody of her daughter. I recall Caroline hinting at such a thing, but for some reason she always declined to explain what she meant. Her refusal to elaborate on the basis of her accusation always left me feeling like she was totally making the whole thing up or at least greatly exaggerating what happened. I remember hearing it had something to do Dina not having a proper signature from Lexie’s father for her to participate in taping, IIRC, and Danielle merely telling someone what signatures from her daughters’ father she had been required to provide. It never sounded like anything that would have really threatened Dina having custody of Lexie at all, much less an attempt by Danielle to cost Dina custody of Lexie. It all seemed very overblown by Caroline and nothing more than something she was using to justify her weird rage toward Danielle.

Here’s an excerpt from Dina’s blog (as told by E!Online):

Dina explains that once she decided to leave RHONJ, she began to distance herself from all the ladies on the show because all the drama between them became too “toxic” for her.

“I really wanted to walk away from all of the toxic behavior, I was not into ganging up on anyone and I was no longer obligated to talk about Daniele so the best thing for me to do was stay away…I guess some of the Housewives may have taken that as I think I’m better than them…that couldn’t be further from the truth.”

She then explains that through her children’s charity, Project Ladybug, she began to see that the bickering on the show seemed “so silly” and that she discovered what is really important in life—for her that no longer included reality television.

“I’m not proud of what went down season one and I entered into season two with a heavy heart, not really into it at all,” she wrote. “Once I left I felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders and I finally felt a sense of peace.”

Dina says distancing herself from the show and cast did include not being as close as she once was to Teresa Giudice, but that the duo were still occasionally speaking. At the time she also had a falling out with her sister Caroline.

“Feelings did get hurt,” Dina said of her family battle. “I won’t get into them because I have no desire to rehash the past that can only hurt my parents whom I adore…There is no side here, this is a private matter; there are 3 sides to every story remember…it depends on who you ask.”

kzmanrules2 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

And, no it’s not Teresa’s fault, although Caroline loves blaming everyone but herself for things going wrong in her life. It was Teresa’s fault her son failed in college, it was her fault Lauren is fat. So of course she blames Teresa for her relationship with Dina failing.

ivygirl22 said on June 22, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Caroline DID say at the reunion she would “love” to show everyone the emails she has as “proof” that Teresa stopped her and Dina from talking. Caroline was the one who brought up the emails and her “willingness” to share them so I actually DON’T believe Caroline for one minute that these emails exist…knowing Caroline, she would be thrilled to take any opportunity to disprove Teresa or expose her as a liar…and she hasn’t (in this instance.) If she has these supposed emails and is so eager to let everyone read them, where are they?

I also find it hard to believe that Teresa would be sending emails to Dina telling her to stop talking to her own sister. This whole story has been sketchy at best, and I just don’t believe Caroline at all in this particular situation. Dina herself says Teresa is not the reason she and Caroline are on the outs…I don’t think Teresa has that much power over the two of them, especially Caroline. Personally, I don’t see one shred of evidence as to why Caroline deserves any “benefit of the doubt” when she’s the one who bragged about emails and then never produced them. Caroline gives me the impression that if Teresa ever does ANYTHING to “wrong” her (Caroline) or piss her off, we hear about it in great detail…however, this whole “Dina” rift has been kept pretty much under the rug, leading me to believe Caroline *doesn’t* want the whole truth of it exposed because it has more to do with HERSELF than it does Teresa.

Lazaka on May 29, 2012 at IMDb.com:

The way Caroline blames Teresa for her entire family feud (Caroline’s not Teresa’s) and sticks her crooked nose into Teresa’s family business but expects Teresa to not do the same is another reason people can’t stand her. She’s very much a hypocrite and people are getting tired of her “Don” ways. She also claims to hate drama but she incites it and causes it more than anyone but probably Jacqueline.

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“Do you really think ALL the kids don’t know what is going on in their own family? Doesn’t Melissa talk about Teresa in the car with her kids there? Can’t Gia still love her aunt if she turns out to have been a stripper? Why do people expect Teresa to keep taking hits…MY GOD….she’s taken them all season with her mouth SHUT….and never, ever, ever reply? Or strike back? Are we really going to go down the ‘two wrongs don’t make a right’ path? Intentions matter here. Melissa’s intention to ruin Teresa’s relationships for her own fame is not quite the same as Teresa’s intention to defend herself and put someone else on the defence for a change. Can you REALLY blame her? I wouldn’t be talking to these people at all if I were her…family or not. I will be giving Teresa a free pass for whatever she says at the reunion…in fact, I’ll drive it to her house.” – Parkview, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Tre bashing is not okay either. Sometimes you just gotta stand up for yourself, I get it. All the bashing has to stop for the family to heal. Which will probably not happen if they are on the show. As far as I’m concerned, Caro, Wacko and Co. are all fair game….bash away Tre.” – Chris, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“I would have done the same thing after continually being attacked by the others for 2 years. You can only kick someone so long before they react and defend themselves, and she did that quite well.” – mzjulesaz, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“She wasn’t innocent in the Dirty D situation. What she was saying was that Caroline & Jax drug up Danielle’s past and were all, ‘Oooh, she was a stripper’ but they don’t care about MEHO’s past and the same issues. I think what she is saying, inarticulately (which makes me think she maybe did write this latest Bravo blog), is that SHE wasn’t the one who brought up Danielle’s stuff. THEY did. Ergo, she wasn’t the one to tell Caroline the rumors about MeHO.” – Maggiemzjulesaz, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“I also loved how Teresa told IckyRichy to turn around when she was taking-off her robe to slip into the hot tub. She’s got your number Wakile. She’s known you close to twenty years, and KNOWS you’re a creep who ogles her at every chance. This could be the root of Kathy’s problem with Tre.” – Meadow (@improgressing) , August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Me thinks you have hit the ‘nail’on the head — a little misdirected anger on Kathy’s part if you ask me. Your right, she has his number and does everything the can to shoot him down but he won’t listen. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me that he hit on Teresa one time and she shot him down. That might just be the rub you are talking about. If Teresa can see through his BS, I bet Kathy can too, and she blames Teresa for it. That explains Kathy’s motivations and the allusions to the long ago split in Teresa’s & Kathy’s relationship. How can they be morally outraged with you after spending over a year spewing very nasty, petty and mean spirited blogs, twitters, and interviews against your family.” – fierysicilian1, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Teresa, I watch the show and try to keep an open mind and you aren’t perfect but you aren’t the person they try to make you out to be either. You are right that us fans read all the blogs, etc. and can see/hear the contradictions from all of them… All of this over the magazine articles is just stupid. You have said you do the covers and get paid but have also said that you don’t have control over what is always said on the inside, as most celebs would agree with you… it’s so stupid. They all really need to move on. You touched Kathy’s chin like one touches a child’s to get their attention, when she was absorbed in her phone. And you only touched her again to explain what you were doing. It makes me sick how she made that out to be something it wasn’t. Teresa, it is obvious to me that Caroline was jealous that you were getting along with your family so she started to stir the pot. She is mean — I wrote her that holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies. Melissa, Jac, and Kathy sat there while Caroline made an ass of herself and degraded Teresa on national TV. It was brutal. Shame on them for not standing up for Teresa. Caroline was wrong. They should have stopped it right then and there. But they didn’t because they were too tied into the ‘Teresa hates Melissa for no good reason’ story line, and Melissa couldn’t afford to alienate Caroline because she is with Kathy on that.” – DivaSLC77, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

“My favorite comment in Teresa’s blog was how she was going to tell Caroline off, but thought of Dina and Caro’s mom Nettie. Then she pointed out how Caroline did not show the same respect for her mother. Especially loved how she talks to her Mom in Italian and Caroline does not understand the language — proved one lie.” – ViewerLainie, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

“I just feel that, at her nastiest (chasing Danielle through the country club), Teresa was trying to get to the bottom of WHO was feeding Danielle private financial information. Not sure if Teresa knew at this point that her own family was feeding the enemy, but she certainly suspected it. She wanted a straight answer from Danielle about who was setting her up. I felt Teresa was trying to protect her private business MORE than she was trying to hurt Danielle.” – Elmozoe, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

“To defend actions in the current season by bringing up things that happened years ago when they were ALL in very different places in their lives and different people is just scratching the bottom of the barrel.” – Just me, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

Video History of RHONJ at StoopidHousewives

http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/09/01/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-takin-a-video-tour-the-early-years-video/

“I just want to see them all get called out — you know they ( Caroline, Jacqueline, Melissa Kathy) are going to go hard on Teresa, with Andy loving every damn minute if it. Of course he will gloss over every damn thing they have said and done. But at least with someone like Danielle coming on, she will be like, ‘Yeah, well Jacqueline you told me this, and Caroline what about that, and Melissa you did this and that, and Teresa, don’t play innocent you went went along with them going at me’ (which, even though I am a Teresa fan, she did).” – Lena1, September 2, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Just highlights the fact that Melissa and Kathy ruined it for Teresa. This was Teresa’s gig: she earned her claim to fame, but until season 3 she cherished her friendship with the Manzo-Laurita family. Have a feeling that Jac and Tre will reconcile at the reunion. The only reason people are tuning in is to see someone crash and burn permanently. Kathy and Melissa have ruined the show!!!” – Lori, September 1, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Teresa predicted that it would be ugly. RHONJ is really difficult to watch. The Wakilies are craptastic wannabes who, as Kathy said on The View, ‘ just wanted a piece of the pie’. Well Wonky eye, bake your own damn pie instead of trying to grab your cousin’s. MeHo is a prisoner of her own fantasy: she can sing about as well as I can spin gold into straw.” – Aint Pittypat, September 1, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“The Wakile’s gas stations were almost broke. Richie (so much smarter than Juicy Joe) was sued by Exxon (don’t mess with a global oil company). Kathy was cuttin’ hair. And they wanted what cousin Tre earned. Yeah – get on the show, work with DonCaro to knock Tre off. Problem with the plan? Tre has star power – she makes you laugh. Kathy-YAWN.” – Love NJt, September 2, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“My objection to Danielle season 1 was the constant sexual references and (to me) inappropriately confiding in her daughters. After 2 seasons of Joey clambering all over MeHo like a nasty monkey in heat and Richie the Creeper humping anything with a pulse, all I can say is Danielle looks like Mother Teresa in a nun’s habit . Danielle at least owned her stripper past while Jax goes into a coma at the slightest mention of the S word. If RHONJ is going to survive this debacle of a season, then the entire cast needs to come clean. I know this is childish, but I would pay to see Teresa rip Chuckie and Jax a new one over Gia.” – Aint Pittypat, September 1, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“The stupid cookbook comment maybe irritating but definitely not enough to provoke that kind of hatred. What happened on that vacay, which we’ll never really know because of the legal stuff, involved her self-professed mama’s boys. Who knows what Tre did? Who knows what Chris and Albie did? But, whatever it was, they ARE responsible for their actions. They’re 20-something men. BUT I don’t think Caroline would ever forgive Teresa or accept an apology. She seems to be too much of a hard-a&&. She’s not even talking to her own sister for Pete’s sake. What kind of adult does that? I don’t agree with a lot of stuff my brother says and does but I still talk to him!” – amyp22, September 1, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

“Bottom line, they are all desperate to show the viewers how bad she is, so are trying to focus on anything they can dig up. The tabloids are a joke, because anything in them that is bad, were direct quotes from the other ladies. Caroline is spoiled, we clearly saw how nasty she got when it was looking like she was going to lose control of Jaq. When Teresa became the breakout star, and Caroline couldn’t control her, she decided she would control the viewers instead, by trying to get everyone to hate Teresa and quit buying her products. That way the Manzos would be # 1 again. Caroline sees Teresa as a competitor who must be eliminated. Caroline feels she must be the winner, and she will knock down anyone who gets in her way!” – valgal62, September 1, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

“Caroline, you confuse me. You have a great relationship with Al and your kids…the kind of family most people would love to be a part of. Why don’t you back off and let Teresa have that with her family? If you truly believed that Teresa, Melissa, Joe and Kathy should make peace and be a family, then you should have let them. Instead, you were the one fueling the flames every chance you got. The real ugly is what hides behind your smile. It’s in your eyes; you can’t miss it. You are passing it on to your daughter: if you’re not careful she will be a lonely, angry young woman, and you will be the blame. Problem is, you won’t see it. Somehow it will be someone else’s fault! I only hope that if Lauren is blessed with a daughter she is more emotionally supportive of her than you are. You support her with money, business, surgery…but where is the emotional support? You give more of that to Melissa and Kathy!!” – bellasmommy98, September 2, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

“So Teresa says that Dina stopped talking to her when she left the show. And she says that when Dina had her fight with Caroline she didnt talk to T for awhile. So it sounds to me, if Teresa meant to word everything the way she did, that Dinas leaving the show happened at the same time as her fight with Caroline. So it would seem to me that Caroline had something to do with Dinas decision to leave the show…maybe the whole reason she left. IMO this supports the theory that Dina and Carolines fight had everything to do with the show….maybe a business deal gone wrong. Or maybe that whole stupid twitter project ladybug war between the two.” – Parkview, September 10, 2012, StoopidHousewives

Related:

• Caroline Manzo Testifies in Danielle Staub’s Her Ex-Husband’s $5 Million Lawsuit Against Her for Defamation
• Caroline Manzo: Why I’ll Never Forgive Danielle

Filed under Caroline is a Big Fat Liar, Caroline Is Trying to Breakup Teresa’s Family, Dina’s and Caroline’s Feud, Reunion 4 Tips for Teresa

Melissa Gorga Buys Facebook Fans and Twitter Followers; Melissa’s Facade Slips in Her Season 4 Episode 17 Bravo Blog and You See Her for Who She Really Is (Updated 8/30/12)

August 28, 2012 85 Comments

“Something definitely fishy is going on concerning her FB fanpage because she suddenly appeared as my latest “like” & I have never even visited the page. I ended up reporting the page because it’s really trashy & beyond tacky to have some sort of “system” randomly capture “likes” for your fanpage.” – MrIncredible, August 31, 2012, The Fame-Whorgas

Melissa Gorga’s Facebook Fans:

~50,000 10-30-11 (after season 3 ended)
~85,000 4-30-12 (before season 4 premiered)
120,000 8-25-12 (steady increase of about 2,000 per week during season 4 airing)
198,000 8-27-12 9:30 PM EST (sudden burst of new fans compared to 2-3 days before)
206,000 8-27-12 11 PM EST (+8,000 in less than two hours)
212,596 8-27-12 11:30 PM EST (+6,500 in 30 minutes)
215,766 8-28-12 12:20 AM EST (+5,000 in less than an hour)
221,330 8-28-12 1:15 AM EST (+5,500 in an hour)
226,883 8-28-12 2:00 AM EST (+5,500 in 45 minutes)
229,886 8-28-12 2:34 AM EST (+3,000 in 30 minutes)
256,407 8-28-12 1:51 PM EST (+26,500 in 11 hours, about 2,400 per hour)
And still counting.

Over the past 9 months, Melissa’s Facebook fans have increased steadily by about 2,000 per week, so a sudden jump in one day of 130,000+ (and still counting) is very, very suspicious. The only explanation would be that she is buying fans and her fan adder program went amok. More fans were added in one day than were added over the past two years. Since 8-27-12, her page has not been loading properly because all these new ‘likes’ are being added (and no one is ‘talking about this’ while it’s happening), so something is definitely up (a program must be adding them and hanging up her page so that no one can be shown ‘talking about this’ until the program stops or there is a lull).

Facebook Page Fans Adder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er-7lZnudmw

Add 100 Fans Per Second
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8Us4sQmPo&feature=related

How to get 1000s of Free Facebook Likes, Twitter Followers, Legit and for free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39-s86-il8g&feature=related

She (and her husband) also bought Twitter followers (see chart here). Joe Gorga steadily gained exactly 101 followers a day through Feb., then it dropped to exactly 50 followers a day until April, then he gained exactly 261 followers a day for a few weeks.

Kathy Wakile buys them too. Kathy Wakile gained exactly 855 new Twitter followers a day in Feb. and March, then dropped to exactly 183 Twitter followers a day in April (in other words, she was doing WAY better before the new season of the Real Housewives of NJ started!) Someone also mentioned to me on Twitter that Kathy’s Red Velvet Cosmo account had 300 followers then randomly gained 17,000 followers, then dropped to 13,000 followers (large drops in followers appear to be common when you buy followers, Twitter must “purge” obvious “bots.”)

Melissa took the photo above when she, Joe and their kids celebrated his birthday with his parents on August 22, 2012 (there is a photo below of her from the same party). Obviously, she and Joe and their kids spend time with Joe’s parents as evidenced by the photos taken just five days before she wrote her scathing blog about Teresa (Melissa is the sister-in-law and daughter-in-law from hell that Caroline Manzo deserves, not Teresa and her parents). In Melissa’s August 27, 2012, Bravo blog she said:

“I will say I got a sick feeling in my stomach when Caroline said she’s been in the car with Teresa and heard Teresa bashing Joe and me to her mother. This is nothing we didn’t know already, but to hear about it is just sad. Joe suffers all the time because of the wall Teresa tries to put up between him and his parents. Nothing hurts him more. When they are upset for no reason at all, my kids don’t get to see their only grandfather. I think I understand why she lied and tried to poison everyone’s minds against us, but why his own parents?”

“I suggest Tree speak to MeGo in Italian at reunion and then ask Don what she just said… when she can’t say, say: ‘So when was this phone conversation with my off the boat momma that you overheard me calling her a stripper? Please tell me the words I used to villainize my brother to my momma? And just because you can be swayed by your children to think one kid is an a-hole over another don’t mean my momma rolls that way, so kindly keep that trash to yourself and your family and don’t for one minute suggest that momma’s parenting skills are anything CLOSE to yours’.” – madepiley, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“My question is: when was the last time Caroline was in a car with Teresa? It’s been obvious for sometime now that Caroline does not like Teresa, so why would she put herself in a car with her? IF Teresa did say nasty things about you, it was how long ago. It looked as if you and Teresa had kind of put the past behind you. Please don’t drag it back out again. Especially because of something Caroline says.  It’s obvious that she is miserable.” – DebbieD37, August 29, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

In Melissa’s season 4 episode 17 Bravo blog, ‘Character Assassination’, she defends Caroline’s verbal assault on Teresa and accepts whatever Caroline claims to be the truth about Teresa. She has finally returned to the real Melissa from her very first Bravo blog, where she showed her true colors. On August 26, 2012, Melissa also tweeted the following regarding what Caroline claims Teresa said about her:

“Not gonna lie. Hate knowing she said those things about me. All which are false.”

SylviaFranken’s ‘Gorga Website’ Reference on the Housewives’ Bravo Blogs

BoysNmore said on May 30, 2012 in Teresa’s Bravo Blog:

To “SylviaFranken” viewer: Thank you for telling us about Gorga website. I was up all night reading it, and I’m was so happy to see someone else has documented everything I have seen and suspected. Melissa sure has done a lot of damage to Teresa’s family for fame. She wanted it BAD, and boy oh boy, did she get it. It’s VERY disturbing. Thank you for passing it on.

SylviaFranken said on May 29, 2012 at Teresa’s Bravo Blog (excerpt):

Anyone can absolutely see every move they made if you go to Fame-Whorgas web page. It’s absolutely brilliant and gives Teresa’s fans a lot of relief to see what we’ve been seeing with our own eyes for 2 seasons, but the media hasn’t caught on. Wow.

Note: Around June 1, Bravo edited SylviaFranken’s original post to exclude her comments above. So now readers don’t know what blog ‘boysNmore’ is referring to since ‘Gorga’ website is vague and won’t bring up the Fame-Whorgas blog in a web search.