Melissa Gorga Buys Facebook Fans and Twitter Followers; Melissa’s Facade Slips in Her Season 4 Episode 17 Bravo Blog and You See Her for Who She Really Is (Updated 8/30/12)
“Something definitely fishy is going on concerning her FB fanpage because she suddenly appeared as my latest “like” & I have never even visited the page. I ended up reporting the page because it’s really trashy & beyond tacky to have some sort of “system” randomly capture “likes” for your fanpage.” – MrIncredible, August 31, 2012, Fame-Whorgas
Melissa Gorga’s Facebook Fans:
~50,000 10-30-11 (after season 3 ended)
~85,000 4-30-12 (before season 4 premiered)
120,000 8-25-12 (steady increase of about 2,000 per week during season 4 airing)
198,000 8-27-12 9:30 PM EST (sudden burst of new fans compared to 2-3 days before)
206,000 8-27-12 11 PM EST (+8,000 in less than two hours)
212,596 8-27-12 11:30 PM EST (+6,500 in 30 minutes)
215,766 8-28-12 12:20 AM EST (+5,000 in less than an hour)
221,330 8-28-12 1:15 AM EST (+5,500 in an hour)
226,883 8-28-12 2:00 AM EST (+5,500 in 45 minutes)
229,886 8-28-12 2:34 AM EST (+3,000 in 30 minutes)
256,407 8-28-12 1:51 PM EST (+26,500 in 11 hours, about 2,400 per hour)
And still counting.
Over the past 9 months, Melissa’s Facebook fans have increased steadily by about 2,000 per week, so a sudden jump in one day of 130,000+ (and still counting) is very, very suspicious. The only explanation would be that she is buying fans and her fan adder program went amok. More fans were added in one day than were added over the past two years. Since 8-27-12, her page has not been loading properly because all these new ‘likes’ are being added (and no one is ‘talking about this’ while it’s happening), so something is definitely up (a program must be adding them and hanging up her page so that no one can be shown ‘talking about this’ until the program stops or there is a lull).
That friend who brags about having 1,000, even 100,000 Twitter followers may not have earned them through hard work and social networking; he may have simply bought them on the black market. And it’s not just ego-driven blogger types. Celebrities, politicians, start-ups, aspiring rock stars, reality show hopefuls — anyone who might benefit from having a larger social media footprint — are known to have bought large blocks of Twitter followers. The practice is surprisingly easy. A Google search for “buy Twitter followers”turns up dozens of Web sites.
“And it’s so cheap, too”… 250,000 for $2,500, or a penny each. One site, Fiverr, an online classified for cheap marketing services, has several ads offering 1,000 Twitter followers for $5.
Having fake followers, it is important to note, does not necessarily mean that they were purchased. Unlike Facebook friends, Twitter does not require users to approve followers. In other words, anyone can follow you on Twitter, whether it’s your mother or a spammer.
Twitter followers are sold in two ways: “Targeted” followers, as they are known in the industry, are harvested using software that seeks out Twitter users with similar interests and follows them, betting that many will return the favor. “Generated” followers are from Twitter accounts that are either inactive or created by spamming computers — often referred to as “bots.”
Buyers and sellers see nothing wrong with it. “Buying followers generated by bots is against Twitter’s terms and frowned upon by the public,” Mr. Mitchell said. “However, it is perfectly legal.”
The practice has become so widespread that StatusPeople, a social media management company in London, released a Web tool last month called the Fake Follower Check that it says can ascertain how many fake followers you and your friends have.
– New York Times, August 22, 2012
She (and her husband) also bought Twitter followers (see chart here). Joe Gorga steadily gained exactly 101 followers a day through Feb., then it dropped to exactly 50 followers a day until April, then he gained exactly 261 followers a day for a few weeks.
Kathy Wakile buys them too. Kathy Wakile gained exactly 855 new Twitter followers a day in Feb. and March, then dropped to exactly 183 Twitter followers a day in April (in other words, she was doing WAY better before the new season of the Real Housewives of NJ started!) Someone also mentioned to me on Twitter that Kathy’s Red Velvet Cosmo account had 300 followers then randomly gained 17,000 followers, then dropped to 13,000 followers (large drops in followers appear to be common when you buy followers, Twitter must “purge” obvious “bots.”)
Melissa took the photo above when she, Joe and their kids celebrated his birthday with his parents on August 22, 2012 (there is a photo below of her from the same party). Obviously, she and Joe and their kids spend time with Joe’s parents as evidenced by the photos taken just five days before she wrote her scathing blog about Teresa (Melissa is the sister-in-law and daughter-in-law from hell that Caroline Manzo deserves, not Teresa and her parents). In Melissa’s August 27, 2012, Bravo blog she said:
“I will say I got a sick feeling in my stomach when Caroline said she’s been in the car with Teresa and heard Teresa bashing Joe and me to her mother. This is nothing we didn’t know already, but to hear about it is just sad. Joe suffers all the time because of the wall Teresa tries to put up between him and his parents. Nothing hurts him more. When they are upset for no reason at all, my kids don’t get to see their only grandfather. I think I understand why she lied and tried to poison everyone’s minds against us, but why his own parents?”
“I suggest Tree speak to MeGo in Italian at reunion and then ask Don what she just said… when she can’t say, say: ‘So when was this phone conversation with my off the boat momma that you overheard me calling her a stripper? Please tell me the words I used to villainize my brother to my momma? And just because you can be swayed by your children to think one kid is an a-hole over another don’t mean my momma rolls that way, so kindly keep that trash to yourself and your family and don’t for one minute suggest that momma’s parenting skills are anything CLOSE to yours’.” – madepiley, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives
“My question is: when was the last time Caroline was in a car with Teresa? It’s been obvious for sometime now that Caroline does not like Teresa, so why would she put herself in a car with her? IF Teresa did say nasty things about you, it was how long ago. It looked as if you and Teresa had kind of put the past behind you. Please don’t drag it back out again. Especially because of something Caroline says. It’s obvious that she is miserable.” – DebbieD37, August 29, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog
In Melissa’s season 4 episode 17 Bravo blog, ‘Character Assassination’, she defends Caroline’s verbal assault on Teresa and accepts whatever Caroline claims to be the truth about Teresa. She has finally returned to the real Melissa from her very first Bravo blog, where she showed her true colors. On August 26, 2012, Melissa also tweeted the following regarding what Caroline claims Teresa said about her:
“Not gonna lie. Hate knowing she said those things about me. All which are false.”
Jacqueline Laurita’s Storyline for Season 5 Would Be Nicholas’ Autism; The Timing of Her Announcement Coincides with Contract Renewals, Season 4’s Explosive Ending and the Upcoming Reunion (Updated 8/27/2012)
On September 10, 2012, Jacqueline Laurita was a guest on the Anderson Cooper Show. He asked her if she will be back for season 5, for which she neither denied or confirmed. Chris Laurita said that if asked back, he and Jacqueline would use the RHONJ as a platform for autism awareness.
They are all narcissists. To put yourself on TV is to be one. I’ve worked with many actors, and believe me, this is almost a necessary trait to be in the public eye in this vein. Someone further down the thread mentioned that Bravo was tiring of Teresa’s inflated ego due to fame. Weren’t they all chasing fame? Kind of part of the deal, and it’s the competitiveness over the spotlight that has got the storyline to where it is. I personally would argue that they are infamous rather than famous …. Horses for courses, it’s reality TV. Putting ego and id aside, this is a new step on Bravo’s behalf. Perhaps I’m being repetitive; however, please consider this: Bethenny has a well documented fractured relationship with her mother — Bravo certainly could have courted her, but did not go down this path [like the path they went down to hire the Gorgas and Wakiles to antagonize Teresa] — Bravo has the right to employ whomever they wish — that would have made for a spicy episode, don’t you think? What about Jeff from Flipping Out and his self professed flawed character — they didn’t go on a fact finding mission with him? Teresa deserves no more and no less than her counterparts, but somehow she’s got the raw end of the stick because some pimpled-faced producer, filmmaker wanna-be decided to make some controversy. Ratings gold. Brilliant, show me the money! Do it — perfect business sense — but do it impartially and fairly, not pointedly and maliciously… Don’t slaughter the golden goose…. Pretty sure they’d be making some coin off her ‘fame’. – Anonymous, August 25, 2012, The Fame-Whorgas
If anything, the “diagnosis” has given Jacqueline a get out of jail free card.
Jacqueline told People Magazine that she concealed Nicholas’ disability from the show as cameras rolled on its fourth season last year “but would be open to chronicling what’s going on if she signs on for a fifth year.”
“I am sorry to hear about her child, but you would think that she would keep it private. Especially since she trash talked other people for selling stories to the tabloids.” – AT, Independence, MO USA, August 23, 2012, The Daily Mail
Nicholas’ autism would be Jacqueline’s new storyline now that Ashlee has left home. Here are some other highlights from her People Magazine article:
- At 15 months, she saw a regression in his motor skills.
- At 15 months, he started to lose his ability to communicate.
- She says that once he began to speak, Nicholas would always say, “I love you Mommy.”
- At 18 months, he wouldn’t say “I love you.”
- At 18 months, he wasn’t answering to his name or noticing people come into the room.
- At 18 months, he couldn’t follow a simple command.
- They waited 8 months for their insurance to clear them to see a specialist, which was followed by the official diagnosis from a family doctor.
- She is starting to see behavioral issues.
- “I know they say a lot of autistic kids are not affectionate, and I don’t know how God allowed it, but he’s always hugging and kissing me.”
“Nothing! & we are helping people not hurting people. Not an illness!” – Jacqueline Laurita, August 26, 2012, Twitter, when asked by @KateHolmesF, “How much did you paid to exploit your son’s illness?”
Jacqueline tweeted that she wasn’t paid by People Magazine. Someone should tweet Jacqueline and ask her if she got paid by People Magazine for the photos of her and Nicholas. And maybe somebody should remind Jacqueline that she put out negative things about Teresa Giudice on Twitter, and she says she’s paid to tweet, so then she is paid for her stories!
Nicholas must have been extremely precocious if he was saying “I love you Mommy” at 18 months old; however, more likely than not, Jacqueline is exaggerating her story and Nicholas didn’t say that at 18 months old. A baby says his first word usually between 10 to 15 months, and the average age an infant says his first word is 13 months. Once a baby speaks his first word, he begins identifying other understood words by saying them. By 18 months, the average baby can speak close to 50 words. From 18 to 24 months, babies begin combining words (usually subjects and verbs or adjectives and nouns) to create two-word phrases to communicate. These two-word utterances leave out parts of speech and are direct: “Want cookie,” “Sara mean,” and “Fat cat” are examples of two-word utterances. [Source]
Initial diagnosis of autism requires parents self report any and all behaviors that they are concerned about. Given what we have seen about Jax on the show with her daughter, she almost seemed to enjoy the martyrdom that came along with having a “bad child” — like a jacked up psychological Munchhausen by proxy. She loved her crying scenes, thrives on Chris saying she has “such a good heart” blah blah blah. Any mother of a teenage daughter could spin their antic into making them appear to be the devil’s spawn but MOST mothers wouldn’t do that. Jax did. Jax did it with relish. I can only hope that the doctors could weed out any bullcrap such as this before agreeing with a parent that the child has autism. It seems to me that Jax has major perception problems when it comes to her interpreting the actions of other.
• Tree won’t share her struggles with me!!!!! (as much as I think she should)
• My child won’t show me affection!!! (as much as I think he should)
• Ashlee won’t babysit CJ!!!! (as much as I think she should)
• My child doesn’t listen when I say his name!!! (as quickly as I think he should)
• My college-aged daughter is obsessed with hanging out with her friends (imagine that)
• My toddler son is obsessed with his tonka truck (imagine that)
• It goes on…..
A misdiagnosed child is tragic and intentionally misdiagnosed child… no words.
– madepiley, August 23, 2012, StoopidHousewives
The photo below is a still from a video that Ashlee took during the Manzo’s/Laurita’s Jersey Shore vacation in August 2012 (they rented a big house, which they all shared; they tweeted photos throughout their ‘vacation’). Nicholas is more than three years old in the video. Just a week after this video was taken Jacqueline released her story to People Magazine about Nicholas having autism. Note that autism doesn’t affect the development of motor skills, which Jacqueline says is one of Nicholas’ symptoms.
“Do not feel bad for Nicholas. He’s extremely smart & making great progress. He’s happy and loved. Thank you all for the support though. xx” – Ashlee Holmes, August 22, 2012, Twitter for iPhone
- Nicholas was born June 11, 2009 (according to IMDB.com), so in December 2010 he was 18 months old, which is when Jacqueline first noticed his ‘regresssion’.
- The season 2 finale aired on September 6, 2010, and reunion 2 was filmed shortly thereafter.
- Filming for season 3 began almost immediately, in late September/October 2010. Jacqueline first noticed Nicholas ‘regression’ in December 2010, a couple months after filming for season 3 began (filming ended in mid March 2011). However, they waited 8 months for their insurance to clear them to see a specialist, which was followed by the official diagnosis from a family doctor around August 2011.
- Filming for season 4 began late May/June 2011, six months after Jacqueline first noticed his ‘regression’, and continued through September 27, 2011. Nicholas was diagnosed in August 2011, around the time of the meeting on Jacqueline’s deck, where she criticized Teresa for replying to Danielle’s tweet and stated that she wanted to distance herself from Teresa and her family.
- The big blow up during the PFS at the end of season 4 (to be aired as the season 4 finale) was filmed on September 27, 2011, about two months after Nicholas was officially diagnosed with autism. The reunion for season 3 was filmed the next day, September 28, 2011, and aired two weeks later in early October 2011.
By Carolyn H.G., Comment Posted at StoopidHousewives
August 24, 2012
That Jacqueline Laurita would PREY UPON THE COMPASSION OF THE PUBLIC by using her son’s developmental issues to avoid facing accountability for her INDEFENSIBLE behavior is OFFENSIVE TO THOSE FACED WITH THE CHALLENGES OF AUTISM.
The timing of Mrs. Laurita’s announcement couldn’t be more obvious; her PR team scheduled its release to coincide with the season’s explosive ending and the show’s upcoming reunion, where the New Jersey housewife will surely face the audience’s wrath for her shameful actions.
Mrs. Laurita had a solid YEAR to serve as an outspoken advocate for those dealing with Autism Spectrum Disorders. She had every opportunity to sit down for countless interviews to SPREAD AWARENESS and SUPPORT RESEARCH. Instead, she spent precious time and energy trashing her cast mate on social media, in blogs, and on television. Now, she is attempting to hide behind the issue of Autism to garner sympathy from the audience and escape culpability for her morally questionable conduct.
It’s not surprising this group would stoop so low. After all, the audience is already anticipating their excuses:
• Caroline’s bullying and ruthlessness wasn’t her fault; she was menopausal.
• Melissa executed a devious plot to humiliate and destroy her husband’s only sibling because she was hormonal during her pregnancy.
• Jacqueline didn’t punch Caroline in the face because she has impulse control issues and she’s emotionally unstable; she was suffering from Post-Pardom Depression. (What about the arrest for assaulting an ex-boyfriend in Las Vegas?)
• Jacqueline already tried to explain away her vile treatment of her (former) best friend with claims of “low testosterone.” Unfortunately for her, the audience didn’t buy it.
Perhaps Caroline Manzo crafted this strategy? Remember, the Manzo-matriarch’s son, Albie, flunked out of law school NOT because he was too busy playing on Twitter and enjoying his newfound Bravo celebrity status; ADD was the culprit. (By the way, I’m not discounting ADD; I, myself, have ADD, as do many SUCCESSFUL professionals.)
As an aside, had Mr. Manzo not been tossed out of law school, he and his family members would know they’re walking a fine line in touting BLK’s “health benefits.” Remember the class action suit against the herbal supplement Airborne? Statements made by the Manzo and Laurita families indicate they probably DON’T.
In an article in the Wyckoff-Franklin Lakes Patch, Mr. Manzo claims:
“A mother gave her autistic son BLK to drink, thinking its unique color might get him drinking more water. The boy not only drank it, he loved it, but the amazing part, he started behaving. The mother reached out to Albie, shocked, who sent her two more cases to try. Her son is stimming less and listening and following directions more. The difference, she told Manzo, is unbelievable.”
Comments, such as this, suggest THE LAURITA AND MANZO FAMILIES MAY BE POSITIONING THEMSELVES TO USE AUTISM AS A PLATFORM TO PROMOTE THEIR PRODUCT. Not only are they preying upon the “pity” of the public, they’re PREYING UPON THE HOPE OF FAMILIES DESPERATE FOR A CURE. That is truly DEPLORABLE.
More Readers’ Comments from StoopidHousewives, AllAboutTRH, and Reality Tea:
Ragin_Cajun_theonly1 said on August 26, 2012:
Ahhhhh, I guess we are not gonna see Jax in one of her Posche sausage dresses running down the hall screaming at somebody with Tre by her side. Jax wants sympathy and times that article about Autism to come out at the end of the season to make her soft again? Well, who the heck is manipulating the fans with tabloid stories? If her son was diagnosed with Autism a while ago then why is she all about getting messy with Tre? I will say screw you I am not gonna get upset all over your trampling booty and concentrate on my son. She did the same thing with Ashley. Instead of paying attention to her at the Fashion Show she is there poking that Dani Bear with Tre until it was her daughter that was eventually charged. When is Jax gonna get her act together for her children’s sake?
Lee said on August 27, 2012
I live in Bergen county like Jacqueline and I don’t understand why it took so long. I called the Bergen County Health Department and they sent someone to evaluate my son in 1 week and my doctor sent me to Hackensack hospital for an evaluation. In 2 months I was receiving services. I hope he attends a therapeutic preschool.
Barb Aroneo Roach said on August 25, 2012 at 4:50 PM
I wrote a comment last night Linda, what sickens me the most is that they are going to exploit the child by showing him on the next year’s NJHW if they are asked backed. He is going to be their story line. That is horrendous.
love nj said on August 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM
It’s scary how low they will go. Albie Manzo works for Chris Laurita. Nichola Laurita is Albie’s cousin. Nicholas supposedly has autism. (We haven’t seen the medical records – so I am using supposedly). Now, Albie is giving two cases of Blk water to a woman whose son has autism. The woman claimed that Blk water made her son behave. So, will Nicholas’ autism be manipulated to help sell Blk water for some purported health benefits and for sympathy for the Laurita family? I think so. Well, if Albie is L.D., he should stop slugging the alcohol and start slugging Blk water. How about Lauren drinking Blk water? Change her mood. This family is very crass and vulgar. If they ripped off Signature Apparel, they will rip off anybody else.
On March 11, 2015 Joe Giudice told Us Weekly that he did not cheat on Teresa with a woman named Jamie Jackson, as claimed in an InTouch cover story (Teresa’s go-t0 tabloid) published the same week. The Giudices depend on their tabloid contacts for income, so expect to see more stories like this put out by her PR man and lawyer, James L. Leonard, Jr. Like the Kardashians, the Giudices need the tabloid coverage to maintain their relevance.
The following is the story from Us Weekly.
Both the Real Housewives of New Jersey hubby and Jackson debunk the story to Us, saying InTouch lied about supposed evidence of an alleged hotel tryst. The tabloid claimed that Giudice carried out the affair just four weeks before his wife was due to check into prison in early January for a 15-month prison sentence; Giudice, however, tells Us that it’s entirely false.
“No, I did not flirt with her. I did not make out with her, nothing happened between us,” the father of four tells Us. “Everything InTouch is saying that happened between us are lies.”
Jackson echoes Giudice, telling Us: “I definitely never slept with him… Nothing happened with me and Joe, I didn’t know him prior, nothing inappropriate happened at any time. We did not hook up, kiss, or anything more. I saw him at the two business meals and nothing more, it’s all made up bulls—.”
Giudice and Jackson tell Us they’ve only met on two separate occasions — the second time during a business dinner at Resorts Casino Hotel in Atlantic City. The swanky hotel is where InTouch has claimed they carried out their supposed tryst.
“Teresa knew that I was down there both times,” Giudice, 42, tells Us. “So it’s not like I went down there with her not knowing.” Meanwhile, incriminating photos were supposedly snapped of Giudice and Jackson during a group dinner.
“I’m not sure [what] juicy photos they could get, we were just sitting at a table with others at a business dinner,” Jackson tells Us.
Joe Giudice tells Us Weekly in an exclusive interview that InTouch’s cover story about his alleged affair with Jamie Jackson is fake; plus, Jackson goes on the record with Us, too.
Joe Giudice tells Us Weekly in an exclusive interview that InTouch’s cover story about his alleged affair with Jamie Jackson is fake; plus, Jackson goes on the record with Us, too.
InTouch reported that Giudice and Jackson disappeared together after the dinner for about “20 minutes” into a master suite, where she emerged “buttoning her blouse and crying hysterically.”
“This story doesn’t make any sense,” he says. InTouch also claimed to have a video of the couple making out at dinner. “I said ‘Really? I doubt it, but if you do then God bless you, I don’t know where you got it from.’ …Let’s get real here, if I’m going to make out with a girl, is it going to be in the middle of Carmine’s? No way.”
Both Giudice and Jackson were notified by InTouch that the story was being released, and the Bravo star denied it on the record.
“They said they’re putting the story out anyway,” he tells Us. “I guarantee you that nothing happened. They said they have a video of me in a bedroom? What are they talking about? They said I’ve been with this girl more than one time, it’s not true. I met this girl twice and nothing went on.”
He notes to Us that InTouch released a cover story last week of his wife and her time behind bars which featured a doctored photo. “The picture they used of Teresa isn’t even her!” Giudice tells Us. “I can clearly see that my wife’s head is pasted on that body that’s not hers. They couldn’t even use the real pictures or real facts.”
According to RadarOnline on January 2, 2014, Joe had been caught for the third time out with another woman. In late November 2013 Joe was spotted having lunch with a brunette woman in Secaucus, NJ, and in 2011 he was spotted at a TGIFriday’s with a woman who was not his wife.
As reunion 5 was airing, Jacqueline tweeted the following regarding the comments she made during reunion 4 about Juicy cheating with his secretary and the babysitter (she said in the reunion 5 footage that she was wrong to say it but didn’t expand on it):
Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita 6 Oct 2013
Last reunion, although brutally honest, I said things that were not my place to say! I was not going there again.
When asked by AllAboutTRH on October 10, 2012 if she ever told Jacqueline that Joe cheated on her, Teresa said:
“I never told Jacqueline any of that. If I had proof of Joe cheated on me, I wouldn’t be with him. I’m just not made that way. I know some people would stick with their husbands even if they did that but to each their own. It would be unfortunate but I would definitely not stay with Joe.”
When asked, “Was Joe Giudice talking to a woman on the phone in Napa; did he forget to turn off his mic?”, a former RHONJ post production supervisor, speaking to a cousin on September 17, 2012, responded: “The call was 100% innocent. He called Teresa a c*** because he didn’t want to be there filming and was taking it out on her. He had a legal mess at home he needed to deal with but was contractually obligated to be there.”
A magazine called me two weeks ago to ask me about my reaction to the new episode they just received. I hadn’t seen it, so I had no idea what they were talking about. Once I got a copy and watched it, I was sick. I felt like I’d been kicked in the stomach. It has not been a good couple of weeks. Of course I begged Bravo not to air it, but when you sign up for a TV show, you sign up to show everything, warts and all. The good and the bad. Kind of like that other promise: for better or for worse. Welcome to the ‘worse.’
My husband disrespecting me on camera happened a year ago, but I just found out about it, and I’m trying to process it. I seem to always be the last to find out things, huh? People’s pasts keep coming out and they admit their dirty deeds to me, like my own family contacting Danielle to try and “take me down,” but I only find out about it months or years later. They say they’re sorry, they’re not that person now, and what can I do? I forgive them. I forgave my brother and Melissa, and I can forgive Joe.
But I’m not stupid. It does make me wary, it does make it hard to trust the people I love. But that’s how it is in grown-up life. It’s not a fairy tale. Everyone I know has their own share of heartbreak. And to be honest, guys in Jersey aren’t the most refined in the world. I look around me and I see other guys treating their women the same as Joe treated me and worse. I don’t like it; I don’t think any woman does. It’s weird that we put up with it when we’re so strong and smart in so many other ways… But I’m sure it’s the same with guys in a lot of places. They’re different animals. They are animals. They think it’s funny to show everyone their buttholes. Women aren’t like this. We have our own kind of ugly that men don’t understand. But we have to work it out and live together, don’t we?
I don’t really want a guy that acts like a woman. I’d rather not have Joe talk to me like a perfect gentlemen and go to his mistress’ apartment every night either. So I guess you have to decide what you can take and what will break you. I’m pretty strong and I have to be: I’m the mom of four little girls.
The truth is Joe and I are happy together now. He’s a great dad and a great husband and we still really like each other. He’s not perfect, I’m not perfect, but you put up with each other’s faults for the good of the whole. Should I break up my family and leave him because he called me an ugly name a year ago? My pride wants to of course, but I don’t think that’s the right or responsible thing to do. People don’t stay married for decades without bumps in the road. So this is a pretty big bump, but I’m hanging on. Thank you all for hanging on with me!
– Teresa Giudice, August 20, 2012, For Better or for Worse
“For Teresa’s sake, I really hope that Joe was talking to Jake from State Farm, but it’s obvious to me he’s cheating.” [charmed1, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“Loved Joe’s switch to another language even though his phone partner had obviously understood English a few seconds beforehand. Obviously their signal for ‘no longer able to talk freely’.” [Jessie Q, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“Here’s another thing about Joe’s call that should tip off Teresa. It looked like it was about 6 or 7 PM when that call happened, which means it would have been 9 or 10 PM back in NJ. Does Tre really think that any legit business needed to be conducted that late? [TheBombDotCom, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“So why at the particular time did Teresa need to confront him about being on the phone? I think it’s because he walked away to have the conversation in private (and it could have been his body language and the look on his face while on the phone, which Teresa could see from the table). Joe seems like one of those assholes who has loud phone calls in public without giving a shit about what he’s talking about or what others hear. So him walking away for a good couple of minutes talking softly probably jumped out as a warning sign to Teresa. That whole display in the vineyard was truly pathetic and embarrassing.” [luckyroll3, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“Many marriages go through infidelities. If you chose to forgive him and give him a second chance, we support you. Just make sure if you stay, you find out for sure if he was cheating and not let him off the hook for that.” [CC1921, August 21, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog]
“As for Joe’s phone call… Please do not ignore the fact that he was not on a work related call…your fans are not stupid; and just because you don’t address it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…or that it will be forgotten. At least say ‘it’s a matter I have chosen to keep private’…but not addressing it at all makes you seem…dumb.” [MaaMaa, August 21, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog]
“Teresa…it was very clear, by the tone of your husband’s voice and the content, that he was talking to another woman in your presence. He is so disrespectful and I’m not sure why you put up with it. I also think you had an idea of what he was doing; that is why you followed him and then tried to force him to have sex with you. Now, you are trying to obfuscate the cheating by focusing on the name-calling. The name-calling is bad enough, but the cheating is worse.” [ceeacee, August 21, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog ]
“I’ll give her a pass on the phone – it’s their business and nobody else’s and they’re dealing with it privately – fair enough. Teresa and Juicy are working things out… protect your man, girl. I hope behind closed doors she ripped him a new one.”
“I suspect part of the conversation she had with Juicy behind closed doors included a very loud ‘you a-wipe – you just gave them ammunition to throw at me and our family. Nice going you ignorant douche’!!”
“Teresa and Joe are still together. They got past that very bad moment in their marriage.”
“I’m not going to comment on what came out on this episode regarding Joe Giudice, because I feel that it is such a sensitive matter to talk about, and I am sure it was very hurtful for Teresa and her family to see. Despite our fighting, my heart hurt for her. That is all I will say on that matter. As far as the sex they had in the vineyard, I think I understand more now why she chose such a time to make a scene. I was wrong thinking that it was entirely about her trying to take the spotlight away from Caroline. I think somewhere in her mind, she was marking her territory. In my opinion, she should have just peed on him, kicked up some dirt, and walked away.” [Jacqueline Laurita, August 21, 2012, Marking Territory]
For an Excellent Recap of Episode 16, Read ‘Whispers in the Grapevine: Teresa is no fool‘, Excerpt Below:
“One thing I hope she is not feeling is embarrassment or humiliation about how Juicy spoke about and to her. It’s not her fault. She cannot control whether he behaves like a gentleman. For the record, I do not believe Juicy is a bad man. I think he’s broken. He lost his way. He forgot the difference between what is right and what is wrong. And I strongly suspect that if he gets into alcohol recovery many of his problems would be resolved. After all many of them stemmed directly from drinking. Many more can be solved if he can just get the help he and his family need.” [Priscilla from Wascilla, August 20, 2012, Whispers in the Grapevine: Teresa is no fool]
Joe Giudice Before Bravo | Joe Giudice After Bravo
Was/Is Joe Giudice Cheating on Teresa?
Footage from season 4 episode 16, which aired August 19, 2012, shows Teresa Giudice seducing her husband in the vineyard (stills below) after the mysterious phone call where he verbally abuses her and claims he is talking to someone from work. Here’s a summary of what was shown in the episode: Joe is on the phone with what seems like another woman; Teresa, suspicious of him stepping away to make a call to ‘work’, goes over to investigate; as she is approaching, Joe says to the person on the other end of the call: “Here comes my bitch wife”; he also refers to her as a “c—“; Teresa, maybe trying to avoid going back to the table in this emotional and awkward moment (and not wanting the others to suspect anything is wrong), leads Joe to the vineyards where (perhaps playing to the cameras to lighten the mood and prove to the audience that all is good) she tries to seduce him, but he tells her: “I’m not doing it over here. I don’t like it over here”; and when she persists, he calls her a “f–king whore.”
After interrupting Joe’s mysterious phone call (knowing the camera crew was filming and her mic was on), Teresa led Joe into the vineyard to fool around; he said he didn’t want to; she kept insisting; he called her a ‘f—ing whore’. The others could see Teresa jumping up and wrapping her legs around Joe, and they could hear him cussing and saying he didn’t want to do it. Note that Teresa had suggested making out in the vineyards earlier, while the Gorgas and Giudices were stilling driving in the RV (and after Teresa’s vulgar remark, when Melissa took their picture, about her husband sticking his finger somewhere in her — her attempt, she said, to ‘make him smile’).
Since season 1, Teresa has been jumping on Joe and has allowed the crew to film them in bed in the morning as she attempts, in a playful way, to engage him, to which he is never receptive because it goes against his personality (he’s no nonsense, rough around the edges, very private, and hates the cameras but is allowing them into his life for Teresa). After Joey and Richie joined the show, Teresa’s sexual banter increased: the cock ring, Joe’s lubrication, hot dog breath, etc., as if she’s trying to keep up with their exploits. Joe Giudice doesn’t seem to appreciate public displays of affection, yet Teresa keeps trying to get him to respond. She needs to stop: some people are just not comfortable with PDA and don’t behave in a romantic manner.
“I’m trying to make some sense of this. Teresa and Juicy had to know that the camera was following them into the vineyard. Didn’t they? I remember seeing a still of Teresa with her legs wrapped around Juicy sometime either just before the season aired or when it was just beginning. So what they didn’t know was that Bravo had Juicy calling her all the other nasty names. Or that Bravo had the audio of his phone call before Tre showed up to question him.” [They probably did not realize that Bravo had a clear audio of the phone call or that they would make such a major deal of it.] – WestCoastFeed, August 16, 2012, Reality Tea
In Richie’s talking head interview about what he saw and heard in the vineyard, he made a nasty comment about the Giudice’s marriage:
“All I kept hearing is, ‘Come on, we can do it here, I’ll put my legs up.’ And I’m wondering to myself, ‘This guy doesn’t even want you in the bedroom, what makes you think he’s gonna wanna do you on gravel?”
In her Bravo blog for the episode, Kathy made excuses for Rich’s comment, as usual (he constantly hurls insults at Teresa behind her back). She also made excuses for teaming up with Caroline to stir up trouble for the just-rekindled (albeit lukewarm) friendship between Jacqueline and Teresa. Remember, just prior to Teresa’s toast that got Kathy and Caroline riled up further (Teresa didn’t mention Jacqueline in her toast, even though they just made up, yet Jacqueline wasn’t upset about being left out), Kathy and Caroline were trash talking Teresa and trying to redirect Jacqueline’s anger back onto Teresa. Here’s what Kathy wrote in her Bravo blog on August 20, 2012 (what the others say and do is harmless, according to them, and the swipes they take at Teresa are just ‘wisecracks’):
“When Joe Giudice stepped away for his phone call, none of us knew what was said or what had happened between him and Teresa until this week when we previewed our episode. In retrospect Rich’s comment, which was meant as a wisecrack, now may have been a little insensitive. Rich and I both feel badly about the situation. This all happened a year ago, and we sincerely hope that they are in a much better place.
“I want to address the little talk I had with Caroline and Jacqueline before our last dinner at the Lancaster Estate. If you’re wondering why I asked so many questions about what went on in their conversations with Teresa, I will tell you. We all spent a great deal of time on this trip trying to understand and sort out our relationships. Some relationships were on the mend and others were fractured. This was true for each and every one of us. Here we were, all together, trying to make a go of it, each in our own way. I felt that I needed to understand the dynamics of what was going on so that I could be supportive and compassionate to everyone. That’s just me, I’m a libra and I constantly try to find balance.
“This brings me to our last dinner. Sometimes I need to see things played back, because I want to be sure of what I heard or didn’t hear at that dinner. The fact that I was left out of my cousin’s toast after I had tried so hard with her was a disappointment at best. If you were there, you knew it was a deliberate snub. You could cut the tension with a knife. I was embarrassed, but I wasn’t going to let it ruin my evening or cause a scene that would ruin anyone else’s evening. Once again Teresa’s actions speak volumes. So at this point I would like to offer my own toast, “In Vino, Veritas (In Wine Is Truth).”
Teresa, in her August 20, 2012 Bravo blog, explained that she did not snub Kathy in the toast:
“Of course I didn’t mean to ‘snub’ Kathy in my toast! For goodness sake! I thanked our hosts, the birthday girl, and mentioned how glad I was that I was working things out with my brother. I have wonderful things I could have said about everyone at the table — how much I love Vito’s bear tattoo, how Lauren just warms my heart every time I see her happy little face — but that would be kind of ridiculous and long. I had patched things up with Kathy already at our lunch, but this trip was the start of fixing things with my brother and Melissa. If anything, Kathy should be happy for me and Joey. If Rosie was sitting at the table and they toasted each other after a rough patch, I’d be happy for her and not try and make it all about me… I’m sorry, but it just didn’t make sense to toast Kathy or Richie, because then I would have had to also toast Albie and Chris and Greg and Lauren and Vito and the people who owned the winery and the camera guys and my agent… I actually don’t even have an agent. Well I do have a literary agent for my books, but that’s it. No PR person either. Bravo TV is my PR.”
Caroline, in her August 20, 2012 Bravo blog, wrote a short blog (just a few sentences) for episode 16, saying:
“This has been quite a season so far, and frankly I can’t wait for it to end so I can lock it away in my mind’s vault never to surface again.”
“Here’s my problem with Caroline: she is always saying she’s over the drama and doesn’t do drama, while constantly causing it by instigating it and involving herself in other people’s family issues, while simultaneously saying no one has the right to get involved in her family dramas or comment on it. It’s a double-standard. And next week I think she’s going to maybe lose it or something – I don’t know, but I feel she’s been very out of line with Teresa’s family this season. Maybe she’s over it completely ( I can sympathize), and I know Bravo is hiding pivotal information from us but, still, it’s getting ridiculous and she is looking like a huge hypocrite.” [Mary, August 20, 2012, Reality Tea]
“Caroline is a total shit stirrer. When Jacq said she was ok with just being a casual friend to Tre, Caroline was all over that screaming that you need to pour out your deepest thoughts to your friends. Really? When it was clear she wasn’t able to stir any more shit between Jacq and Tre, she decided to turn to Kathy and tell her how lousy Tre treats her too. I didn’t think the toast was mean, what is Tre supposed to do, go around the room and make up things to thank people for? She isn’t articulate, she doesn’t think ahead, but I refuse to believe she planned to diss Kathy. She’s just not that smart. Caroline is the mean girl on the RHONJ, not Tre. And why is everyone so friggin concerned with their friendship with Teresa anyway? God, it’s like watching high school, where everyone wants to hang with the popular girl. Pathetic.” [poeticlicenced, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“For Caroline to come on national TV and said she felt ‘sorry for Teresa’ about her marriage… if that is not mean spirited, what is?” [GiveMeBalls, August 31, 2012, Twitter]