A source exclusively told Fame-Whorgas in January 2013 that Al Manzo has been cheating on Caroline for the past five or six years with a woman named Jill, and Caroline has known about the affair for three or more years, catching them numerous times, even at The Brownstone apartment. The source also says that the affair is an open secret, and in their circle of friends (Al’s, Caroline’s and Jill’s), “everyone knows” about it.
According to a source, Teresa, along with Kim D, “tried to push” Penny Drossos-Karagiorgis to out Al as a cheater on camera at the season 5 holiday PFS on December 3, 2012 because Caroline was always criticizing Teresa’s marriage, but Penny declined and explained that “she doesn’t attack without first being attacked” and said that the “Manzos have never done anything negative to, or said anything negative about, her or her family, unlike Melissa Gorga.”
The Giudices along with Kim D, Jennifer Dalton, Penny and Priscilla DiStasio were present for the holiday PFS on December 3, 2012 – the rest of the cast did not attend. Footage from this event has not been included in season 5 thus far, even though it was taped early on. Looking at the photos below, the event could have been taped in any month since there are no holiday decorations on display, so perhaps Bravo is planning to use this footage for the season finale.
In season 4, Caroline and Al taped a scene in the apartment above The Brownstone, and Caroline didn’t seem too pleased when Al tried to bring a little romance into it (screen shots above).
Satire from Reality Redone:
At the love nest above the Brownstone…
ALBERT MANZO – Remember how much fun I used to have up here with other women that are not you?
CAROLINE MANZO – Huh?
ALBERT MANZO – Shit. I meant with you. Remember how much fun I used to have with you?
CAROLINE MANZO – Don’t worry. I can look past anything if you keep buying me Jaguars.
ALBERT MANZO – Even in spite of my rampant, in your-face philandering, we’ve done pretty well as a couple, eh?
CAROLINE MANZO – Yep. Your dad was murdered, convicted felon Bernie Kerik is among our best friends, and our children haven’t really found any career or personal success.
ALBERT MANZO – But don’t forget that we have a show on Bravo. We’re in the company of people like Big Poppa and the Count and Countess of De Lesseps.
CAROLINE MANZO – True dat.
On June 5, 2013, Penny tweeted about “Jill” after she directed a tweet to “Chuckie,” saying, “I haven’t started with you yet.” This is apparently a veiled threat to Caroline about exposing Al’s affair with Jill:
“Then for #Chuckie of all people to claim I ‘started shit’… I haven’t started w/ u yet. YOUR time has come. Can’t believe I felt bad 4 U! Oh how I miss my girls Nina & Lisa. I can’t wait to do a lil shopping at D’Amore Jewelers. Then off to #GlenRock to see JILL #GirlPower.”
According to a source who was present at the grand opening of Posche 2 on March 30, 2013, the reason for Penny’s change of heart toward Caroline is because she yelled at Penny: “You did this! This is all your fault! I hope you’re happy about getting in between a brother and sister!”, and Penny screamed back, “Fuck you, you old hag! And you’re all wrong! I was trying to protect you because I felt sorry for you!”
Will Love, a friend of Penny, tweeted on August 11, 2013, about the exchange that took place at the Holiday PFS on December 3, 2012, saying that Teresa did initiate the topic of cheating husbands, which wouldn’t have been unusual since the rest of the cast frequently talk about her marriage:
“Teresa did initiate the topic of cheating husbands 1st so it wouldn’t be Bravo’s PR’s fault. I really hope Andy shows Posche. HOWEVER even though Teresa did initiate conversation I did not see anything wrong with it. They always talk about her marriage! They brought the topic up to Penny. She answered. They agreed. Simple as that. PFS was an action-packed filming. MUCH more! … At least with boring Caroline they can make Al’s mistress a storyline since topic was discussed in S5. I mean it. If Andy and BravoPR want 2 save #RHONJ cast Penny 2 expose Manzo affair + finish Melissa Gorga’s ‘past’ storyline. If Bravo PR edits out Manzo affair gossip this season & doesn’t continue it next = their loss.”
According to the source, the apartment above The Brownstone, rumored to be Al’s love nest, is not the only place where Al and Jill, who is 46-48 years old, spend time together (he also spends time with her at her home in Glen Rock, NJ).
RadarOnline (if you can believe them) also covered the story:
While at the Posche Fashion Show last year, Teresa and Kim D ran into Le Chateau Allure salon owner Penny Drossos and probed her for information on which husbands from the hit Bravo show were not being faithful to their wives.
“Penny was a little bit hesitant to speak with them, but Teresa and Kim were relentless in their pursuit of digging up dirt on their fellow housewives. Teresa and Kim rattled off the names of all the men and when they got to Albert Manzo it was clear that was who Penny was suggesting is having an affair. When Penny wouldn’t elaborate Teresa shrugged it off and made a cruel remark about how everybody knows about his affair and inferred that it has been going on for what seems like forever.”
In season 5 episode 11, Albie Manzo said to his mother, Caroline:
“I worry about you and dad. Do you even know each other at all? You’ve only seen each other once a week for the last 30 years.”
The Brownstone in Paterson is 5.2 miles and an 11-minute drive from the Manzo’s home in Franklin Lakes, so spending the night at the apartment above it rather than driving home every night doesn’t make sense, except if you’re having an affair.
Albert coming home only one night a week was first mentioned by the Manzo’s children in season 1. In season 1 episode 9 (the “Lost Footage” episode in the screen shot below), the Manzo family, while dining out, talked about it.
This season, in episodes 5 and 11, Albie and Christopher talked about it again (see transcript below), and Caroline admitted Al was absent a lot throughout their marriage:
Caroline and her kids are in her Hoboken apartment, talking as she cooks.
Caroline: We were out to dinner the other night, and Daddy said? “You know what I’m going to do? For the whole month of January, I’m going to Europe.” I can’t even get 24 hours!
Christopher TH: My Dad’s always working, I totally get that. But I don’t think that a lot of couples could withstand what my parents have withstood. It’s not the white picket fence life that everyone expects when they’re growing up.
Albie: I grew up in a marriage where my Dad worked very hard and didn’t always have time to talk to Mom. In our dating lives now, girls are not OK with that.
Caroline: You have to find a girl that understands the way I understood.
Albie TH: I definitely look up to my parents’ marriage big time. I would rather be insanely happy with somebody I see once a week than mediocrity seven days a week. I don’t want that.
Christopher: I know two very happy marriages. Both of them, their husbands work and they never see their wives. You guys only see each other once a week. You barely know each other.
Caroline: That’s not true.
Christopher: Tell me how it’s not?
Caroline: It may not be quantity, but it’s quality.
Caroline TH: Children learn what they live. My children have a different view on family life because Al was absent a lot.
Later, Al and Caroline are in their Hoboken apartment.
Caroline: Vito wants to get engaged. Lauren wants nothing to do with it. She wants to get Cafface rolling. Albie says he’s not going to find the right kind of girl because nobody’s going to understand the hours he works. Chris is not even looking. Chris is like on another planet.
Caroline TH: I think the three of them have committed themselves to being financially secure. Their priorities, work [then] personal; and you worry about that. Look, my husband did it, but my husband missed out on a lot in life. And still is. And I don’t want my kids to do that.
Caroline to Al: They’re all work, work, work, make their fortunes. You created monsters!
Al: That’s horseshit.
Caroline: You’re all going to miss out on so many things.
Al: It don’t look like they’re missing out on much from where I’m sitting!
The microwave goes off.
Al: There’s no way we’re selling the house!
In 2013, Caroline and Al rented a condo in Hoboken (where Albie and Christopher rent an apartment), and Caroline told Us Weekly that they may be selling their Franklin Lakes home. Hoboken is a much longer drive from The Brownstone than Franklin Lakes, and considering Al only comes home one night out of the week to their Franklin Lakes home, Caroline shouldn’t be expecting Al to be spending much time with her in Hoboken either.
“Truth be told Caroline has nothing to say about a marriage of 30 years when they only co-habitated for (according to the Manzo kids and Caroline herself) approximately 1 day a week – 52 days x 30 years averages out to be 4 years and 3 months… Congratulations Caroline, you will be coming up on 5 years soon!!” – PoconoMt.Pa.housewife, July 12, 2013, Melissa’s Bravo Blog
When her book “Let Me Tell You Something: Life as a Real Housewife, Tough-Love Mother, and Street-Smart Businesswoman” was about to hit book shelves, Caroline addressed rumors about Al’s infidelity, and she didn’t exactly deny allegations that her husband has cheated on her.
Joe and Teresa Giudice Indicted on Money Fraud; Teresa Says “Nothing About Melissa’s Marriage Has Ever Come Out of My Mouth” (Updated 11/18/2013)
UPDATE 11/18/2013: On November 18, 2013, the federal government added two more counts to the 39-count indictment against the Giudices which was handed down on July 29, 2013. According to the indictment, the Giudices fraudulently obtained $5 million from mortgage loans, withdrawals from home equity lines of credit, and construction loans from 2001 to 2009 and failed to file tax returns for about $1 million in income from 2004 through 2008 (they are charged with mail and wire fraud, bank fraud, bankruptcy fraud and loan application fraud). According to U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman:
“The two additional counts stem from a $361,250 mortgage loan that Teresa Giudice obtained in July 2005. In the course of obtaining the loan, she and Giuseppe Giudice prepared a loan application which falsely stated that Teresa Giudice was employed as a realtor and that she had a monthly salary of $15,000. Teresa Giudice was not employed outside the home at the time.”
Click here to read details about their bankruptcy and federal indictment on money fraud.
July 29, 2013
Real Housewives of New Jersey’s Teresa Giudice and Joe Giudice — who have been plagued with financial problems for years — were indicted on fraud and tax charges on Monday, July 29. In his 39-count indictment, U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman charged the Bravo reality stars with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud, bank fraud, making false statements on loan applications and bankruptcy fraud.
“Today is a most difficult day for our family. I support Joe and, as a wonderful husband and father, I know he wants only the best for our lovely daughters and me,” Teresa tells Us Weekly in a statement. “I am committed to my family and intend to maintain our lives in the best way possible, which includes continuing my career. As a result, I am hopeful that we will resolve this matter with the government as quickly as possible.”
The indictment also charges Joe with failure to file tax returns from 2004 through 2008, during which time he allegedly earned nearly $1 million.
“The indictment returned today alleges the Giudices lied to the bankruptcy court, to the IRS and to a number of banks,” Fishman said in a statement. “Everyone has an obligation to tell the truth when dealing with the courts, paying their taxes and applying for loans or mortgages. That’s reality.”
Garden State natives Teresa, 41, and Joe, 43, are parents to daughters Gia (born 2001), Gabriella (born 2004), Milania (born 2005) and Audriana (born 2009). Teresa, who has authored several cookbooks, began appearing on The Real Housewives of New Jersey when the series — now in its fifth season — premiered in 2009.
“The privilege of living well in the United States carries certain real responsibilities, including filing tax returns when required and paying the correct amount of tax,” Shantelle P. Kitchen, Special Agent in Charge, IRS-Criminal Investigation, Newark Field Office, said. “Today’s indictment alleges the Giudices did not live up to their responsibilities by failing to file tax returns, falsifying loan applications and concealing assets in their bankruptcy petition. The reality is that this type of criminal conduct will not go undetected and individuals who engage in this type of financial fraud should know they will be held accountable.”
Conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud carries a maximum prison sentence of 20 years, while bank fraud carries a maximum of 30 years. The remaining charges could result in more prison time — not to mention the hefty fines associated with each penalty.
The Giudices are scheduled to appear before Judge Cathy Waldor at the United States District Court in Newark, New Jersey, on Tuesday, July 30. A rep for Bravo had no comment when contacted by Us.
Teresa’s attorney, Henry Klingeman, tells Us:
“Teresa will plead ‘not guilty.’ The judicial process that begins today with an indictment is a search for the truth. As it moves forward, we look forward to vindicating her.”
Joe, a former pizza parlor owner, also faces 10 years behind bars for allegedly using his brother’s ID to obtain a driver’s license in 2010; he will appear in court on Oct. 28.
“Joe maintains his innocence,” his attorney, Miles Feinstein, tells Us Weekly in its July 29 issue. “It will be tough to choose a jury because of the high-profile defendant.”
July 29, 2013
Authorities, citing the indictment, said that between September 2001 and September 2008, Giuseppe and Teresa Giudice, both of Towaco, allegedly committed mail and wire fraud conspiracy by giving lenders fraudulent mortgage and other loan applications and supporting documents in an effort to obtain mortgages and other loans.
In addition, the Giudices falsely represented on loan applications and supporting documents that they were employed and/or taking home substantial salaries when, in fact, they either were not employed or were not receiving such salaries, authorities said of the indictment’s allegations.
For example, authorities said, in September 2001, Teresa Giudice applied for a mortgage loan of $121,500 for which she submitted a loan application that falsely stated she was employed as an executive assistant. She also turned in phony W-2 Forms and fake pay-stubs purportedly issued by her employer, authorities said.
The indictment also points to specific instances of the Giudices allegedly committing bank fraud and loan application fraud in the course of securing loans from several banks, authorities said.
On Oct. 29, 2009, the Giudices filed a petition for individual Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Newark, authorities said. Then during the next few months, they filed several amendments to the bankruptcy petition.
But as part of the bankruptcy filings, the Giudices were required to disclose to the United States Trustee, among other things, assets, liabilities, income, and any anticipated increase in income, authorities said. But the indictment alleges that the Giudices intentionally concealed businesses they owned, income they received from a rental property, and Teresa Giudice’s true income from the television show “Real Housewives of New Jersey,” website sales, and personal and magazine appearances, authorities said.
In addition, the Giudices allegedly hid an anticipated increase in income they expected to get from the then-upcoming Season Two of the “Real Housewives” show.
The Giudices are charged with multiple counts of bankruptcy fraud for concealing and making false oaths and declarations about assets and income during their bankruptcy case, authorities said.
The indictment also contends that during the tax years 2004 to 2008, Giuseppe Giudice received $996,459 in income, but failed to file tax returns for those years, according to authorities.
The conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud counts brought against the Giudices carries a maximum potential penalty of 20 years of in prison, authorities said. The bank fraud and loan application fraud counts each carry a maximum penalty of 30 years in prison and a $1 million fine, Fishman’s office added. The bankruptcy fraud counts each carry a maximum penalty of five years in prison, authorities also said. And the failure to file a tax return counts against Giuseppe Giudice each carry a maximum penalty of one year in prison, they added.
The following is Teresa’s Bravo blog for season 5 episode 9.
Teresa Giudice Says Melissa Will ‘Spin It’, Cheatergate, So That It’s All Teresa’s Fault; Melissa Gorga Takes Another Dig at Joe Giudice’s Mother
Teresa was shocked to hear what was said about her.
By Teresa Giudice
July 22, 2013
There are no words. No words. I wouldn’t wish this situation on my worst enemy. This was not a fun episode to watch mostly because I was hearing the things my family was saying about me behind my back for the first time. Richie, really? Melissa, really? This is how you talk behind closed doors? You see how me and my husband talk. No bashing. Never have.
I have to say for all Melissa’s accusations, you have never heard me call her a gold digger, a stripper, or a cheater because I never have. Not once. (If I had, you know it would be played back over and over.) But I couldn’t list all the things she has called me and my husband. Did she really whine through an entire blog because Joe called her a “horsey face”? He said my brother was a “dum dum” this episode, so I can only imagine what’s coming. Alert the tabloids!
In five seasons, no matter how much people have tried to get a rise out of me, I have never ever laid a hand on someone. Melissa, not so much. First her own son’s Christening it looked like she was kicking people, then she goes after her brother-in-law, and I didn’t even see until I watched the episode that it looked like she wanted to charge me when I was leaving. And I’m the animal? OK.
I lost count of how many names Melissa called me over the last two weeks but I could care less what Melissa says to me. Call me every name you can think of (or if you can’t think of any, just keep calling me the same one over and over). It’s my brother’s words that hurt. We grew up in such a house of love with the utmost respect for each other. He never called me names. Never. And suddenly now he calls me these terrible things in front of the whole country. It’s confusing and hurtful and it breaks my heart. But still, I can’t hate him. I’ve never hated him.
I don’t know why he has so much hate inside him. My husband isn’t full of hate like that. Maybe Joey and Melissa need to drink Fabellini more often. I don’t know. I can’t wait to hear what the secrets to her hot and happy marriage are when her husband is running around this angry attacking people all the time… He’s either angry or he’s crying… Will there be a chapter on what to do when your husband cries in bed? How can you see your husband hurting like that and not want to fix it?
Of course I did not want to see my brother and my husband fight. Once my brother started calling me names, I went to get Joe to leave. Not so that Joe would do something. Melissa seems to forget she called Joey last year at the fashion show for exactly that reason, so he would come and fight. I didn’t want it then, and I didn’t want it now. I just wanted to leave. I was done.
I was very proud that my Joe walked in the room and asked for an apology. He didn’t call anyone names. As soon as Joey charged him, Joe was figuring out the safest way to hold Joey off. If there was ever a “safe” fight for my brother to be in, it’s with my husband. He would never hurt my brother. Joey knows that and Melissa knows it too. Why she was acting all hysterical was insane to me. I get that if Joey was fighting with a stranger, she might be afraid for him, but not with my husband. Then, you should definitely jump in and try to stop it, Melissa! When he’s being an idiot with my husband, you can let them be.
I did run to get security to break it up, but I got back to the room before they did. And I broke up the fight right away. How is that? There were 4 people there trying to “break it up” but only I could do it? Seems to me they weren’t really trying to break it up, they were also attacking my husband. Poor guy!
I had no idea that Melissa felt so strongly about my cookbooks and my products. I guess that explains why she never publicly supported me even though I supported her. I do them because food is what I know best and it makes me happy. It’s sad that she feels the need to belittle me for doing what makes me happy and trying to make a better life for myself and my family. Although I’m sure it’s somehow my fault anyway.
I have nothing else to say except that I can’t wait to see how Melissa will spin this. Here’s a free hint: it’s all my fault.
Melissa opens up about the Joe vs. Joe fight.
By Melissa Gorga
July 22, 2013
Hi everyone. I hope you are enjoying your summer. I can’t believe we are almost half way through! I know these last few episodes have been very dark, but we had to go through what you are seeing to get to a better place.
When Teresa went out and told her husband what her brother called her, Joe Guidice came flying into the ballroom yelling and aggressive. Ten years of hurt and anger in my husband just exploded. He had reached his breaking point. Joe Giudice immediately demanded an apology when his wife was called “scum.” I wonder how he would have reacted if his wife were called, say, “stripper,” “cheater,” “skank ass beotch,” or “horsey face.” How about if he were called “pussy whipped” or that he “took it up the a– with a strap on?” Joe said one word — one syllable — to his sister, right to her face, not behind her back or using other people to speak for him, and look at what happened?
The fight was about anger, frustration, and resentment. We held it in for so long that eventually we just broke down and couldn’t take it anymore. What Joe was trying to explain to his family is that when you speak negatively about his wife, it is disrespecting him. From the past few seasons, I think it’s clear that neither Teresa nor her husband will ever understand that.
When the brawl started, I just reacted and jumped in to break them apart. I’d jump in front of a moving train for my husband and kids. If my family is threatened in any way, you couldn’t drag me away. Watching the fight last night, I think I confirmed my take on marriage. It’s about love, honesty, passion, respect, and loyalty. Loyalty means you stand by your man and defend him in a fight. You don’t take off and blame others later.
Even though Joe Giudice might have deserved to get slapped for the things he’d said about me, I really wasn’t trying to hurt him. I just wanted to get them off of each other. It’s pure instinct to try to help your loved ones when you feel like they may be in danger. I was in Mama Bear mode. The claws came out. I might be small, but I can and will do anything to protect my husband from people who tried to do him harm, physically and emotionally.
Immediately after the fight, Joe was devastated. He knew that his sister and her husband would spin the fight their way and he was upset he let it get that far. He was right. Teresa told Joe that she was the one that had to go in there and break up the fight! Really? She wasn’t there! Whatever her excuse will be, the fact is she ran in the opposite direction when her husband and brother were trying to kill each other.
It was agony to watch my husband cry. Joe is a passionate, sensitive man. He really felt destroyed over what just happened. The suffering had to stop. I was desperate to separate him from the source of the pain and get out of there.
After the fight, Teresa came to our room. She asked to talk, and Joe said “no.” She then asked me to leave my husband alone with her. I said “no.” I know my husband and we all needed to cool down. I’d say we should have slept on it, but Joe and I didn’t sleep a wink that night. We were too upset. Joe was a wreck. He could barely speak and I was shaken up watching him.
Now I know that while we were crying, devastated, and embarrassed over in the other room, nothing but giggles and Fabellini toasts. The Giudices must have felt like what just happened was no big deal. They were having sexy time in the hot tub. Hey, whatever floats your boat. I wonder what Filomena “too much boobie” Giudice would say about her son and daughter-in-law’s Jacuzzi action and his “I’m going to jerk off”?
The next morning we felt more done with trying to repair our relationship with Teresa then we ever had. I said some not nice things about Teresa’s brands. I “eggmit” it. She’d thrown mud on my projects for years, especially my singing — her rendition of “On Display” at the reunion was unforgettable. Multiple times she said I lip sync and even my nieces have repeated it. As I’ve said before, tit for tat will not get us anywhere. Two wrongs don’t make a right. When I am wrong, I say I’m wrong.
I know I’m being a bit of a hard ass this season, but I just can’t be fake. Watching your husband so upset would make any women see red. I toughened up for him. He needed to be strong for our family, and I needed to be strong to back him up. At this point, I was beyond fed up. I had lost hope and believed that the nonsense was never going to end.
As you can see, I might have had the right idea. Just last week in her blog, Teresa outright threatened us saying I am “very, very lucky that [she’s] keeping quiet about the things [she] does know” about me and my marriage. I thought we are supposed to be in a better place? This is exactly why I didn’t want to just put on a fake smile and pretend that we could snap our fingers and the animosity would disappear. Teresa can threaten me all she likes. All day long, or all night in the hot tub. In fact, I beg her to write in her blog what she “has.” What lie is up her sleeve? I’m dying to know. Do share with us all, Teresa. It’s been open season on me for a while. You might as well bring it out. I’ve been called everything under the sun. What else you got? I can’t wait to hear directly from you, not others.
Obviously, I’ve had to toughen up for a reason. I thought staying at the castle and more talking would only make things worse. It would take a miracle to change my mind, and turn things around. Maybe that miracle is Dr. V. She was very pretty and didn’t look like a saint, but God worked in mysterious ways.