Home > Season 5 Commentary and Housewives' Blogs > Jacqueline Laurita Blogs That Teresa Still Hasn’t Taken Accountability; Teresa Giudice Blogs That She Will Always Love Jacqueline; Melissa Gorga Blogs That Her Kids Each Would Love One-on-One Time with Teresa Like Joe Gorga Gave to Gia

Jacqueline Laurita Blogs That Teresa Still Hasn’t Taken Accountability; Teresa Giudice Blogs That She Will Always Love Jacqueline; Melissa Gorga Blogs That Her Kids Each Would Love One-on-One Time with Teresa Like Joe Gorga Gave to Gia

August 11, 2013

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Gia Giudice is the first grandchild in the Gorga family and was born about three years before Joe Gorga met Melissa. He is Gia’s godfather. They had a special bond before Melissa came along. The Giudices and Gorgas had been estranged for a year and a half when episode 11 was taped. Being 12-years-old at the time, Gia was well aware of the conflict between the families, so Melissa’s subtle little dig at Teresa in her blog for season 5 episode 11 is petty, as usual. She wrote:

“It was great to see Joe make an effort to spend some alone time with his niece. If Zia Teresa wants to have one-on-one time with Antonia, she’d love it. Gino and Joey would love it too!”

However, other than the subtle dig, it was a refreshing change that Melissa didn’t attack the Giudices and perpetuate more lies in her blog for the episode compared to her appearance on WWHL after the episode premiered.

On WWHL, Melissa commented that she wouldn’t let her daughter wear makeup like Gia at 12-years-old (Antonia is about 5 or 6 in the photo below, and it looks like she is wearing makeup), and she implied that Milania was acting out stories she heard from her parents when she climbed up the pole on the bus ride to the Zumba charity event. Obviously, when Milania said, “I’m Melissa, I’m going on the pole,” she was simply responding to Juicy poking fun at the stripper rumors when he said, “Melissa, like, can you do the pole one last time?!” Everyone on the bus, including the Gorgas, was laughing.

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The following is an excerpt from Melissa’s Bravo blog for season 5 episode 11.

Joe and Gia’s Quality Time
By Melissa Gorga
August 12, 2013

It was great to see Joe make an effort to spend some alone time with his niece. Honestly, I know it was hard for Joe to hear Gia say how hurt she was when our families weren’t speaking. Joe cares a lot about his niece. As a good uncle, he listened and let her express her feelings. He wasn’t about to state his case or defend his actions. That wasn’t the point. To mend their relationship, he had to bite his tongue. Gia hears and understands a lot. She acts very grown up, but she’s still a kid. At 12, she can’t truly understand the complicated issues of what went on over the last few years — actually, for the last ten years — between her parents and me and Joe.

We’re all determined to put our hostile history behind us and move forward as a family. Joe and I believe that every child should idolize their parents. To that end, Joe told Gia that her parents were the best and that he was there for her anytime she needed her uncle.

We are here for our nieces and always will be. I’m sure Teresa and Joe feel the same way about our children. If Zia Teresa wants to have one-on-one time with Antonia, she’d love it. Gino and Joey would love it too! Our door is always open. Next week’s episode, from the look of it, isn’t going to be as peace, love, and flowers as this one. I’m mentally preparing for it already!

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Teresa said very little in her Bravo blog. She mentioned Jacqueline, writing, “I don’t know if things will ever be the same, but I missed hanging out with her, and I will always love her.”

The following is an excerpt from Teresa’s Bravo blog for season 5 episode 11.

Teresa’s Favorite Moment of the Season
By Teresa Giudice
August 12, 2013

This was an episode I really needed to see this week. Finally, everyone making up and getting along like we all used to. I love love love all the love!

I’m happy that Jacqueline and I worked through some of our issues. It might take some time for us to get back to where we were, and I don’t know if things will ever be the same, but I missed hanging out with her, and I will always love her. Even if she thinks I’m a sociopath.

I loved seeing Gia and my brother hang out again. She really missed him. We all did. She is growing up so fast! I was so proud of Gia for talking to her uncle like she did. I thought she was very respectful and sweet and very honest and very brave!

The highlight for me this entire season was seeing everyone get together for the Nephcure Zumba charity event.

Thank you all for continuing to send me your love, prayers and support. It means the world to me.

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“I realize that there are evil people out there, and I just feel like you’re one of them.” – Teresa Giudice to Jacqueline Laurita, Season 5, Episode 11

“I never did anything to hurt you and I hope you know that.” – Teresa Giudice to Jacqueline Laurita, Season 5, Episode 11

“You were like my sister, my best friend. I really loved you.” – Teresa Giudice to Jacqueline Laurita, Season 5, Episode 11

In Jacqueline’s Bravo blog, she wrote that Juicy apologized to Chris, but there was “no accountability yet” from Teresa. She also wrote, “She just didn’t see where she did anything wrong, even when I pointed things out.”

“There’s ALWAYS time to tweet. Especially when my son had school & at-home therapy 9 hours a day.” – Jacqueline Laurita, August 11, 2013, Twitter

The following is an excerpt from Jacqueline’s Bravo blog for episode 5.

How Jacqueline Got Her Sexy Back (Excerpt)
By Jacqueline Laurita
August 11, 2013

Are you all surprised to see the way my conversation ended with Teresa after you saw the way it started? Teresa and I never got to the root of our issues during our talk that night, but at least we got to a place of peace. The goal was to be civil, not friends. I was afraid if we started getting into all the deep stuff, we would just end up arguing. I had to keep reminding myself of the goal. We agreed to disagree.

I felt hurt by Teresa, because I felt that she never appreciated all my efforts in the previous years in trying to help her mend things with her family. I resented that she got upset with me, pulled away from me, and started talking behind my back when I wouldn’t call out her family, agree with her, or take her side on specific things. She didn’t consider me a loyal friend because of all that. It was frustrating for me. I felt there were times she was making things worse for herself and/or the situation, and I was just trying to give her my honest advice as a friend. I cared about her a lot. I only wanted the best for her. I was her biggest supporter. Sometimes you need a friend who will tell you the truth when you are doing or saying things that could hurt you. I honestly loved Teresa. My intent was not to hurt her. She had really disappointed me. I was very hurt.

It also hurt me that Teresa kept implying that because I tweet, I’m not focused on my son. My son was having 9 hours of therapy a day between school and his at-home therapies. I had plenty of time to tweet. Besides, I mostly work from my computer so it’s really convenient. I didn’t think that was a fair judgment. She had not been around Nicholas since he had been diagnosed with Autism, so she had no idea how much time and energy I put into recovering my son, or how emotional it can be at times.

There was no point in taking our conversation any further. She knew it, and I knew it. So we squashed it.

We actually hung out really late that night as couples and had a great time. I apologized to Joe for crossing the line when we were fighting and saying things that were not my place to say. Joe apologized to Chris for the things he had said as well. Teresa? No accountability yet. She just didn’t see where she did anything wrong, even when I pointed things out. But regardless of what we said to each other, it ended with us speaking again and that made everything more pleasant. The more time we spent together having fun and without fighting, the more I would remember and miss our fun times together. I just wanted it to continue moving forward in a positive direction.

When we were in the bus on our way to the Nephcure charity event, it seemed as though Teresa was trying to purposely provoke me by bringing up the sociopath thing again. It made me question whether or not she was sincere about moving forward. I wanted to believe she was sincere, but I was conflicted. After seeing the last episode, I know now that she was just attempting to “keep her enemies closer.” I really didn’t want to go backwards and start talking about all that again. I thought we moved on from that. I called her a sociopath and she called me evil. I’m sure there were a lot of other words we used to describe each other as well when we were upset. Regardless, that was all in the past, and I wanted to leave it there.

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I realize that a tummy tuck is a serious surgery, but I checked out Dr. Brent really well first and felt very safe with him. My decision to get a tummy tuck was easy. I always wanted one since I gave birth to Nicholas and lost all of my baby weight. My body just didn’t bounce back this time like it did in the past. Dieting and exercising couldn’t fix that mess you saw. It looked like an elephant leg. LOL! It didn’t matter how beautiful my husband, family, or friends told me I was. I wasn’t feeling it. That skin had to go, and so did that tattoo! It was cute because inside the heart was the letter “C” on top of, and connecting to, a cursive letter “L”. I had that tattoo made for my husband while we were engaged. Well…that’s ONE way to get rid of a tattoo! LOL!

I knew Chris and the kids would be OK. Nick had a busy schedule with school and his at-home therapies and I had my niece/babysitter, Sarah, looking after them to help Chris out. Caroline and her kids were also nearby. They were in good hands.

Before my tummy tuck, I always tricked my husband with sexy mood lighting and cute, short lingerie dresses that I could lift up the bottom and pull my boobies out of the top, trying to be sexy, while secretly hiding my mid-section. He had no idea that mess was there. I hid it well. I was embarrassed of it. Now you know why! It’s gone now, so who cares.

Dr. Brent did tell me that it was OK if I had an alcoholic drink as long as it was earlier in the night. Considering that this was my only day to play in California before I had to lay in bed recovering for a while, I wanted to have some fun! We were going to have dinner at a place called Te’kila! How could you go to a place called Te’kila and NOT try one of their tequilas? I mean seriously. I only sipped on one shot of tequila the entire night. ONE! You can see me sipping on it like a cup of tea with my pinky out in one of the scenes, instead of throwing it back. I’m not stupid. I also only ate the lettuce part from my taco salad bowl. It was killing me not to eat the guacamole on the table. That was torture!

My Dad is so funny, isn’t it he? I love spending time with my parents. They are the best! They do NOT agree with plastic surgery AT ALL, so God bless them for sticking by me. It’s purely a personal choice. My parents certainly did not raise me that way. I felt bad for worrying everybody. I tried to ease their worries by showing them how NOT worried I was about it. I’ve always been a risk taker.

Doesn’t Ashlee look so beautiful? She has really matured in a lot of ways. We just don’t fight like we use to. We actually enjoy each other’s company. The relationship we have now is really great. It all worked out. I was so happy to have her there with me. She hung out with me all week. We watched movies and laughed a lot. She is actually staying with us in New Jersey for a while because she decided to go to make-up school in New York. I‘m so thrilled to have her home. We all missed her. It’s been a lot of fun having her around again.

Back to my surgery. It took 6 hours! What you don’t know was that they found 6 hernias in my stomach. Yes, 6! I am so grateful that Dr. Brent took care of that. How did you all handle seeing my cutlets on the table during surgery? My nephews said it looked like a mac and cheese stuffed calzone. LOL! Nasty! I don’t miss that part of me at all.

I LOVE my results! This was the first year that I actually wore a bikini in many, many years! My neck looks better too. I could really see the difference in my interview in my blue dress. I’m getting my sexy back! LOL!

I think it’s really important for parents of special needs to take some time for themselves once in a while. A lot of effort goes raising a child with special needs on a daily basis. At times it is physically and mentally exhausting, just like it is for a parent of typical kids. If you take a little break once in a while, you will go back in fully charged, more focused, and more determined. When you take care of yourself, you can better care for others. It’s easy to neglect yourself from time to time when you’re so focused on your family’s needs. I just was at the point, with all that was going on around me, that I needed a little break away from it all. I had been wanting a tummy tuck for years, so I decided to take the time to myself and take care of my belly at the same time, right then and there. If not then, then when?

It’s also just as important to take time away with your spouse once in a while. Date nights are great! Couple time is key to a strong and healthy marriage. I really enjoy my husband.

Well…looks like there is more drama next week. Some attention-seeking people will do anything to be in the spotlight. Don’t miss it next week! Enjoy!

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  1. windycitywondering2
    August 11, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    I refuse to read any of Wacky Jacky’s explanations or justifications for her behavior. I can’t believe she had full sets of false eyelashes on during her surgery! Her insecurity is only surpassed by her vanity!

    • BravoFan22
      August 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM

      Exactly! Totally self-absorbed. She definitely got that surgery for free, the way she’s been promoting the doc for a year on twitter. But Ashley’s comment made it sound like she’s had many, many procedures. Her face looks totally fake now.

    • Buck Henry
      August 13, 2013 at 12:54 AM

      It’s second nature for Melissa to attack, attack Teresa attack Joe attack Gia etc. etc.. You know why she wants Teresa to have a one on one with Antonia, it’s so she can setup a situation to make Teresa look bad. She will coach Antonia on what to say and how to respond and to blame Teresa. She didn’t like that Joe was alone with Gia, in fact she doesn’t like Joe alone with anybody that is female. Because in her mind she things that she will lose control of him. She knows that Joe is dumb, he’s ignorant and he’s weak. And it’s almost impossible for her to dump on Gia (but she did anyway with her backhanded ways). So it made her mad that she couldn’t attack, and Joe had to think about what he did and said.

      If I was Teresa I wouldn’t do a one on one with anything that Melissa want’s. Because it will be a no win situation.

      • kayswhims
        August 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM

        This is a good point. TSIL “prepared” Joe before he met with Teresa at the restaurant. That was the time Joe was still thinking for himself when he responded to Teresa “because you tell it like it is”.

        I noticed Antonia questions her mother’s judgement. ( Why mail this letter, we live next door?) She listens to her mother, but she is not easily convinced like her father. She is not around her mother that much.

        TSIL should know by now, Teresa will not turn away, if a family member knocks on her door. She was hoping Teresa did not set up a play date for the girls, or go to therapy with her brother. She needs to look like the person trying to mend a relationship and Teresa is the one playing mind games. So far, it has not worked. Teresa has said yes, when TSIL wants her to say no…lol

        The more TB listens to others instead of the Marcos, the more TSIL will be beside herself. If her book fails, she can blame it on bad press Teresa has now, and public opinion of her being associated with Joe and Teresa.

        It looks like she has continuously put Teresa in a no win situation, but things have always backfired. Teresa is constantly trying to find a way to get past something negative and focus on the positives. She looks for good where most see nothing but evil. She loves when people want her to hate. She overcomes when people wait for her to fall apart. She is a frustrating challenge for a destructive narcissist and she inspires me, which makes her a winner no matter what.

  2. RedVelvetCake
    August 11, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Wacko Jacko’s surgery episode was so fake,that doctor was so creepy,i bet she didn’t have surgery ,and was paid to promote that creepy doctor.her neck looks the same.

  3. August 11, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    i will not read anything she writes she is so evil

    • windycitywondering2
      August 11, 2013 at 11:17 PM

      T pegged her perfectly! I couldn’t believe the evil one could not meet Teresa’s eyes when she was telling her just how much she really meant to her! The evil one deserves all the guilt and pain she is in because she is a very ugly person – inside and out!

      • xjrsygrl7733
        August 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM

        And Jac still could not come up with anything that Tre did to hurt Her! Tre asked her several times what she did wrong to Jac but she never got a answer! Jac hurt T more than anyone else! She tried to get her to talk about her finances on national Tv knowing that she was setting her up! That is not forgivable!

  4. Laram
    August 11, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    I just can’t read this, blah, blah, blah. I skimmed to her excusing her food and alcohol before going under general anesthesia. My ass your doctor told you that….night before a surgery that takes hourssssss? What a delusional poor soul!

    • Laram
      August 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM

      And please, fake eyelashes under major general anesthesia. They are truly trying to paint her as crazy, even her father said the word. For Chris to be seen as incapable as well. That’s right Laurita’s plea insanity. Ugh!!!!

      • Jeannie5233
        August 11, 2013 at 10:25 PM

        All I know is I have had surgery under general anesthesia. I had to swear off alcohol for 24 hours. And remove my nail polish (although I don’t know if that is standard – I was told they check to see if your fingernails remain pink while under) And could not wear any makeup, deodorant, or lotion.

        Some one must have called her out on it and hit a never (and obviously got blocked because it doesn’t appear on her TL) because she just tweeted:

        Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 1h
        I had absolutely NO make-up on in surgery! (So of course I had to wear my eyelashes..geez)
        6:20 PM – 11 Aug 13

        What a ridiculous fool.

        • Laram
          August 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM

          Lol, right, @Jeannie! Such crap.

        • Silvana
          August 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM

          Or she has just read these comments!! Seems a little suss doesn’t it?

          • kayswhims
            August 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM

            As soon as she said “Some attention-seeking people” I knew she is checking it out and is offended by comments that she seeks attention. She collects feedback anyway she can.

            She has no sympathy here, which no doubt pisses her off. Obsess much Jaxstabber? I feel sorry for CJ, the invisible child. In fact all of your children remind you of something negative about yourself. You need to avoid thinking about it, so you ignore them.

        • August 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM

          OMG …. she just doesn’t stop does she?

          • Laram
            August 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM

            And the 6 hernias? Wth? I have one and can’t keep food down, hence the esophageal ulcer I now have until hernia is removed. How would she not know with 6 ulcers? She’s nuts, and claims to research on natural remedies to “cure” autisim! Beyond Nuts, even if editing lied and she went to drink/eat not night before–still had nail polish, makeup on!!

        • Bree
          August 11, 2013 at 11:42 PM

          No colored fingernail polish is standard, Jeannie. Exactly for the reason you mentioned…blue-ish tinge indicates breathing difficulty.

          Back in the ’80’s, my fave polish was this really sheer, light purplish/blue color (like I said, the 80’s!!). My dad made an appointment with my doctor because he thought I had some serious heart issue because of my nail color. He was so embarrassed calling and cancelling the appointment and made sure I was aware that my taste in nail polish color was stupid and ridiculous. 😀

          • August 12, 2013 at 12:47 AM

            That is too funny,Bree

          • Laram
            August 12, 2013 at 1:04 AM

            Hilarious @Bree. One time I smoked with a bunch of friends, after college. I had never had a cigarette. They were Marlboro Reds. My fingers turned orange, and I went to the ER. I didn’t know!

            • August 12, 2013 at 10:12 AM

              That is hilarious Laram!!

        • August 12, 2013 at 1:00 AM

          The last thing in the world I would worry about during a cosmetic procedure that I chose to do is having eyelashes. Heck last surgery I had I didn’t drink for week two prior and stopped and aspirin, etc. when I had to as the doctor recommended. She either had makeup put on her prior to the camera rolling in recovery or she had her lips tatooed.

        • elemcee
          August 12, 2013 at 1:46 AM

          Nail polish could also mess with the pulse ox monitor, the silver thing they slip on your finger. They do not take any chances.

          • Jessie
            August 12, 2013 at 8:09 AM

            I work in the OR and our monitors are so good now you can wear nail polish and it will still read. The “no nail polish” rule isn’t used where I work and if it is still used somewhere else it’s just because they never changed their policy. The make-up/false eyelashes were stupid, but what do you expect from Jax?

            • elemcee
              August 12, 2013 at 1:14 PM

              I noticed the last time my daughter had a procedure they did not remove her nail polish. I figured maybe things were advancing.

        • August 12, 2013 at 8:39 AM

          This is true. And you certainly don’t booze it up the night before. I think you have to quit drinking for a couple of weeks.

        • becca
          August 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM

          I had breast cancer in 2009 and several surgeries and polish on my fingers and toes during each one but NEVER make up, lotion or perfume. And unlike Wacko I have beautiful long natural lashes and don’t wear fake ones! So if that’s kind of cocky 4 a new poster

          • Jeannie5233
            August 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM

            becca – I hope that you are now feeling well and are in remission. Breast cancer has touched some very impotant people in my life. May you be strong and healthy! 😀

        • lucille mason
          August 13, 2013 at 4:33 AM

          and we had to shower the morning on our operation and wash our hair

  5. nsr1076
    August 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    How much does Michelin neck hate Teresa that she still insists she was trying to help Teresa see she was the problem in Teresa’s family problems. Even Caroline has second guessed TSIL in her TH’s. Kathy saying that TSIL didn’t look sick was also showing how she wasn’t all pro-TSIL.

    What I can’t get over was how TB kept trying to wash his hands of any culpability. He said when a kid hears their parents speak bad of him then they will form a bad opinion of him, yet when Gia told him that he had said those thing s in front of her while she was trying to pull her mom away, he said I didn’t see you. What an asshole.

    • Jeannie5233
      August 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM

      Gia is an old soul. I know there are going to be those who will say she is exposed to way too much at such a young age. But just like Teresa said in her TH, I grew up with dysfunction. At twelve years old, I was very much aware of what was going on and why without anyone having to tell me.

      She was clearly affected badly by her beloved uncle’s behavior at that christening and what he did to her mother and has been carrying that memory with her all this time. What is amazing is that a young child can cut through the BS within minutes of a conversation and calls it like it is. My heart went out to her tonight.

      Oh, and you are right – TB is a complete and utter asshole. He never said he and TSIL did anything wrong yet he told Gia that her mother and her father did. “I’m not gonna say I’m right. Your mom’s wrong. Your dad’s wrong.” Actually, TB is worse than just an asshole but I am too much of a lady to say what I really think of this cretin.

      • windycitywondering2
        August 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM

        I give Gia mad props for how she was not disrespectful to her elder imbecile uncle She also said what she needed to say without being rude or backing down because her feelings and observations are hers – she owned everything she said. Like her father, she finds the right words. And she obviously believes in what her mother says about family.

        • Jeannie5233
          August 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM

          She showed more maturity in that one scene than TB and mostly everyone else has ever shown in the entire run of this show.

          • August 12, 2013 at 1:12 AM

            Yes and TB was an ass always. Who asks their niece if they liked looking at their ass since they lost the race? Seriously?

            • kayswhims
              August 12, 2013 at 7:32 PM

              He made some kind of comment about letting kids win but not there. I remember Gia being upset that they cheated playing tug of war. I don’t think he spent that much time with Gia or his daughter. It sounded to me like he was use to saying how did you like looking at my ass when he was competing with his peers. He had a strange look on his face after he said it. Gia may have gave him a weird look.

          • GPM
            August 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM

            ITA! Gia represented herself very well, with maturity, grace and intelligence — which is saying quite a lot when you consider she was addressing a really creepy uncle. To say that some of his remarks were bizarre is being charitable!

      • Laram
        August 11, 2013 at 11:20 PM

        She is an old soul, she was calm as a cucumber speaking with heart!!

        • kayswhims
          August 12, 2013 at 9:30 AM

          Yes. I loved it when she ask if he was uncomfortable lol I knew he was taken aback and did not want to be alone with her anymore since he mentioned next time bringing more people lol

          • Buck Henry
            August 13, 2013 at 1:06 PM

            And after the stuff he said about his ass and going to the club etc. etc., he may have caught himself via the look she gave that he went a little to far and forgot that this is his niece.

        • GPM
          August 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM

          I agree — an old soul.

      • charok
        August 11, 2013 at 11:59 PM

        i agree gia just wow’ed me tonight, i have a new respect for her. she kept her cool but still called her uncle out with out any kind of disrespect ( i thought)..i thought it was cute/silly how she’s getting ready with her friends and tre and the rest of the girls “ambushes” her with those little ( what are those? ball guns? nerf guns?) light hearted moment of fun…

        • August 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM

          I liked that, too. T seems like a real mom. It’s easy to see she loves and is interested in her daughters.

          M seems as though she uses her kids as an inconvenient backdrop to her personal life story. M and J seem to have similar approaches to parenting/personalities. As a
          mother, it’s easy for me to “like” (wildly flawed) T and difficult to care about M or J.

          • August 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM

            I met tre last night with all her girls. She was polite, nice and I talked to Gia too. Also ver polite and sweet

            • August 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM

              Tre was down the shore at amusement park with her girls and a few others. She is very hands on and was smiling and happy doing normal fun summer things with her girls. All real no photographers just them being real. Tre and Gia were welcoming and polite to me.

              • Jack Hole
                August 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

                I am glad to hear they are rising above it all…I couldn’t even watch WWHL last night, I don’t care to hear anymore of the Gorga digs…I am done w Andy!!

          • windycitywondering2
            August 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM

            ITA – Teresa’s girls are comfortable with her and know they are loved. They are confident and obviously allowed to be the individuals they truly are – we have had the opportunity to watch them grow up. Gia used to be the sassy brat and now she is the budding and introspective preteen. How she handled that convo with Tio Joey was astoundingly mature and respectful. Melissa is a pistol, Gabriella is the quiet, private one and I hope we get to see which direction Audrianna’s personality goes!

            Melissa’s kids kind of give that side eye impression when they are around her – will she be nice to me or will she ignore me. Don’t get me wrong – I love kids of all ages. I just see a huge difference in the actions/reactions of those two families’ children.

            • August 13, 2013 at 3:05 AM

              ITA with your last sentence. There is so much more spontaneity between the Giudice parents and their girls than there is between the Gorgas and their kids. I, like you, also get the feeling that MeGo’s children never know which “mom” is going to show up: the “Me, me, me – everything’s about me!,” mom, or the briefly kind, happy, singing mommy.

      • August 12, 2013 at 3:22 AM

        What I found so respectable about Gia bringing up the christening was she didn’t just bring up her mother being hurt. She told Tb the argument started at “his” son’s christening and it hurt Nonno/Nonna the most! Oh, Gia, your a very protective daughter/sister/granddaughter! You know, the respect & love she has for her grandparents stem from her mother’s love for them! Now, what does that say about Tre?

      • Think This Through
        August 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM

        What is WRONG with these T’s relatives – “adults” ?!
        Can’t anyone every just DO the Right Thing and hug a kid and say,
        “I Love You.” “I’m here for you.”
        and stop being an Idiot and Defending their own incredibly stupid behavior?
        T’s KIDS SHOULD TAKE OVER THE SHOW. …. LOL … They Might teach Andy the Real Way Of The World.

    • August 12, 2013 at 8:41 AM

      Yes, he and Melissa may appear as dumb as a box of rocks, but they never accept responsibility for anything. He only said there are two sides to every story about the Christening, not that he was sorry. Then he said on the short bus a couple of times, that the names he called her are only names. Words have meaning. We teach that in kindergarten.

      • elemcee
        August 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM

        I felt like he was not being a loving uncle, he was trying to bully her into thinking the same way he does. Loser.

        • windycitywondering2
          August 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

          He wants the rewards but doesn’t want to do the work to be a beloved uncle. I have noticed that he has been a lot more relaxed and happy now that he is allowed to be with his family.

  6. Laram
    August 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Maybe Ashlee is channeling Kardashian’s also….like TSIL, her soft spoken TH, and the bun, the red lips—lol–she looked good, but it is so over the top Kardashian look!

    • Jeannie5233
      August 11, 2013 at 11:36 PM

      Andy said that very thing tonight!

      • Laram
        August 12, 2013 at 1:08 AM

        I haven’t seen it yet, and my mobile Bravo app has not yet posted WWHL. Holy gave some insight on another post, about Meliss dying she and T are still in a good place???

      • August 12, 2013 at 8:42 AM

        You are tougher than I, Jeannie. I’d rather get West Nile Virus than watch Andy Cohen’s show.

        • Jeannie5233
          August 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

          LOL! Wanted to see what TSIL had to say – very PC and not very believable. She didn’t disappoint.

    • Bree
      August 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM

      Definitely Kardashian-like but I thought she looked absolutely amazingly beautiful.

      • August 12, 2013 at 1:09 AM

        I thought she looked like crap (who am I to judge) — her hair is way too thin for the top bun thing. She looked OK.

        • elemcee
          August 12, 2013 at 1:08 PM

          I am with you, Jules, that high bun looked ridiculous. It was as big as her damn head. Weird.

    • BravoFan22
      August 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM

      She’s definitely had some work done herself. Her face looks very different than the Ashley of season 1. Nose job, for sure.

  7. yup
    August 11, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Ashlee, who said she’d be explaining the reason for changing the spelling of her name, but then never actually came up with one…

    • Jeannie5233
      August 11, 2013 at 11:38 PM

      Someone in the audience asked TSIL on WWHL tonight that if she was a stripper what name would she go by. Her first response was “Ashlee – with two e’s!” Then she changed it to “Melissa Gee”.

      • August 12, 2013 at 1:06 AM

        My response would have been I wouldn’t have stripper name as I would not do that …. hellllooo.

      • August 12, 2013 at 3:28 AM

        OMGosh, “Ashlee-with two e’s!” spoken like a true, insecure narcissistic punk who has no mind of their own! Even changing it to Melissa Gee shows her lack of personality and wit!

  8. August 11, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Sick of them and refuse to watch. Thank you everyone for your comments. You keep me updated.

  9. Anonymous
    August 11, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Just met teresa and the kids down the shore. She was polite and sweet. I told her we all love her and wish her the best during this awful time.

    • August 11, 2013 at 11:27 PM

      🙂

    • charok
      August 12, 2013 at 12:01 AM

      i’m glad you met her and expressed support for her. i wish i could do the same thing/ in person.

  10. August 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Refuse to watch thanks for updates!

  11. Black enga
    August 11, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Really jax? I am so sick of the bull on this show. You have all this time between ttherapy for your son but no one knows what you go through. Give me a break. You need to take accountability for that f ed up shit you said about her brother too. I like Teresa. She might not be as well versed in the art of backstabbing s the art rest of you saibut that’s one reasons we love her. Please don’t change Teresa! God don’t like ugly and he ain’t crazy about pretty. Stay winning Boo!

    • Jeannie5233
      August 11, 2013 at 11:43 PM

      I am really stumped how a mother of a child with autism has NINE hours away from him a day. As I have said, I know two families with an autistic child, one more severe than the other. Neither one of them spend that much time in school and in therapy so that the family, or at least the parents, are not somehow engaged in the therapy sessions.

      • Jeannie5233
        August 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM

        Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 3h
        There’s ALWAYS time to tweet. Especially when my son had school & at-home therapy 9 hours a day.
        5:03 PM – 11 Aug 13 ·

        • Isolde
          August 12, 2013 at 12:34 AM

          Jeannie, I totally agree, I didn’t spend nine hours away from my 3 year old, and thank God, my children were not special needs. I cannot imagine 9 hours for a 3 year old, even a 5 year old usually only go to kindergarten for half a day (schools here anyway). I understand the need for additional therapy, but 9 hours is excessive, and I would think the mother or a parent would have to work with the child, as well. Nine hours plus nap time and early bed time for a 3 year old, I am sorry to say, how much can this woman be going through? It sounds like others do most of the work with him, not Jacqueline. They said after Hurricane Sandy, that Nick had shown progress because she spent a lot of time with him because of the power outages and no school. Wouldn’t that tell you something, about working with your child??

          • August 12, 2013 at 10:00 AM

            now if jacass is lying the autism people will know ,thy arent going to continue with her ,you wait,hey(likr duck dynesty) hey you heard it first here.

      • August 12, 2013 at 12:54 AM

        So true, Jeannie. My sil is with my nephew during his therapy. She as never been away from him for nine hours. Jac just keeps making herself look like an a$$.

  12. mrsgsp
    August 11, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    How fitting that Caroline wore a dress that looks like cruella da ville. And Jaco Wako was drinking before surgery , no surprise since we all know she has a drinking problem.

    • kayswhims
      August 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM

      Did you see those looks she got from her kids when she”broke out in tears” from the notion that Greg (her third son) was leaving her?

  13. nsr1076
    August 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Her dad telling her that she’s sick was priceless.

    • charok
      August 12, 2013 at 12:02 AM

      i about fell out of my chair when pops told her that…wow!!!

    • Anonymous
      August 12, 2013 at 12:24 AM

      And before that he said your crazy

    • Laram
      August 12, 2013 at 1:10 AM

      I thought he was laying framework for Insanity plea if indicted.

      • August 12, 2013 at 3:34 AM

        You know, LaraM, I can’t help but think of her behavior as somewhat “planned” to get out of some things she may have done in the past! Especially her botox, expresstionalless face! She sure can cry on cue though and look unhappy when needed. I thought frowning used more facial muscle’s than smiling? I really think she looks like a crazed clown!

        • windycitywondering2
          August 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

          There is crazy and then there is crazy mean….Wacky will go down. IMHO, that botox overload to her face is to hide any expression of the guilt that she must be feeling constantly.

  14. August 11, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    I recorded the show and fast forwarded through any scenes the Guidices were not in.

  15. August 11, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Did anyone else see on twitter that Bryan is now coming out with his story too on CYInterview or something like that? My computer is acting whacky tonight and twitter is not cooperating.

    • yup
      August 11, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      I saw that too. no date when the story will be out, just the same vague “soon”.
      annoying.

      • August 12, 2013 at 12:41 AM

        I also find it very odd that it’s around the time of next week’s episode. I smell a rat.

        • Rachel
          August 12, 2013 at 1:51 AM

          I’m starting to feel like this is all set up. I feel like they’re all in it together, including Jan….I mean people want camera time and the Gorgas need to secure a story line for next season. I always found it weird that people want to come on camera now after this is TSIL’s 3rd season on the show….why now? If she changed when she got on the show its been a while now so wouldn’t you have done it before? She claimed to have a perfect marriage and the perfect husband for a while now so people cannot say its because of that. I smell something fishy and once again it is not Kathy.

          • August 12, 2013 at 3:45 AM

            Rachel, I agree with you, too. It seems like Tsil is trying to get into the news by using her old hook-ups as bait! I could careless if her skanky past comes back to haunt her! Even if the news came out that she didn’t cheat and never stripped I wouldn’t care for her! She conned her way onto a show to hurt, not only her SIL, but her husbands parents, too! The girl has lied so much that I don’t believe anything that comes out of her pie whole!

          • August 12, 2013 at 7:50 AM

            Did anyone notice on next week’s preview when TSIL was arguing with Jan, Jan said to TSIL “That’s what you told me to say”. Sounded to me like TSIL did send her friend to that lunch with Tre to set her up. I will have to wait and see what the whole clip says, but that’s the direction it sounded like it was going.

        • August 12, 2013 at 8:45 AM

          The closer they wait to the release of the book, the more copies she will sell. Dumb asses.

    • August 12, 2013 at 7:47 AM

      I don’t think it has anything to do with TSIL. It sounds like it is a project he is working on.

      Kelly O’Donnell ‏@KellyODonnell15 17h
      @NYMOVIEDIRECTOR @bulldog_nj @ChrisYandek @CYInterview Curious to know what you’ve got in the works. Movie director, congrats bulldog
      Expand

  16. yup
    August 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Check out this scene from next week where Melissa comes face to face with Jan. If someone were spreading lies about you, wouldn’t you be eager to confront them? hmm…how strange that Jan is the confrontational one and Melissa looks like she wants to run and hide:

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-5/videos/is-melissa-still-meeting-her-ex

    • nsr1076
      August 11, 2013 at 11:17 PM

      Yes she just said on WWHL that she refuses to talk about it because those people just want attention and she refuses to give then attention.

      • nsr1076
        August 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM

        P.s. I would definitely confront someone spreading rumors about me which I have done in the past.

        • charok
          August 12, 2013 at 12:08 AM

          yes i agree i would SO confront someone spreading rumors about me and ESPECIALLY if they were false…next weeks epi ill HAVE to watch…missy looks like deer in headlights when jan went into her…LOL

        • August 12, 2013 at 10:28 AM

          Most women would that RIGHT AWAY!! 🙂

    • windycitywondering2
      August 11, 2013 at 11:24 PM

      And interestingly enough – they flash to Teresa’s face during that convo when the question of who wanted to know comes up.

      • lalala
        August 12, 2013 at 12:04 AM

        Am i crazy?! In the clip during wwhl Jan says Melissa told her to say Teresa asked her about melissa’s past! Is this just my wishful thinking!?

        • August 12, 2013 at 7:52 AM

          I heard it too!! I made a comment about it somewhere on this thread! Sounded to me like TSIL DID try to set Tre up to look like she was listening to gossip!

          • lalala
            August 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM

            Pink I think we were the only ones! I recorded wwhl – will watch again to be sure

      • August 12, 2013 at 12:36 AM

        It will be interesting to see how they edit considering all of the leaks of what really happened.

        • Miss Alicat
          August 12, 2013 at 10:07 PM

          Penny was in the previews too, so I wonder if they hashed out all the drama from the fight? Any update on that?

    • Have2Say
      August 12, 2013 at 12:34 AM

      yes… I noticed that reaction also. Much different than when she confronted Kim D.

    • August 12, 2013 at 4:23 AM

      Thanks for the link, Yup! I have a feeling that the, “Tsil is a cheat” storyline is going to be overshadowed with a, “Who wanted to know if Tsil cheated?” theme! Just like what happened when Jan brought up Tsil cheating and Tsil tried to turn the topic to, “why was Tre having drinks with my friend?”. I found Tsil’s body language evident of guilt, though! Jan telling Tsil she deserved an academy award and then saying, “Thank-you Jesus!” was priceless! I still don’t care if she cheated, though, because the Gorga’s will deny any proof given. They’ll use the, “these people are after their 15 minutes of fame!” kind of like what they did to Tre when they were cast on the show! I just want to ask the Gorga’s, “how does it feel to be used for 15 minutes?”.

    • August 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM

      WOW!!!! Does she look guilty! Woo-hoo!

    • NonnaB
      August 12, 2013 at 12:32 PM

      I’ve watched this clip 3 times trying to make out what Melissa said to Jan “…that she MET up with her ex…” Not that she cheated but that she met with him. That is a whole different thing than cheating. Can anyone else verify what she said? I’m pretty sure at the dinner table with KimD and Teresa – Jan definitely said Melissa cheated on Joe with her ex.

    • kayswhims
      August 12, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      The nose rubbing – body language – it can be used both by the speaker to disguise his own deceit and by the listener who doubts the speaker’s words. Pinocchio (the wooden puppet boy whose nose grew when he told lies) reflects long-standing associations between the nose and telling lies.

      • embee
        August 12, 2013 at 3:36 PM

        Kayswhims – I thought Melissa was sending a signal to Jan, “don’t talk about me, or I’ll share some of your secrets.”

    • mktgdrivethru
      August 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM

      And yet she has no problem confronting Teresa about all of the “lies” she allegedly has spread around town.

  17. nsr1076
    August 11, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    I’m watching the WWHL and before i changed the channel I will say this, the guy in the shark outfit danced better than two left feet TSIL…

    • August 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM

      No kidding … 🙂

    • August 12, 2013 at 12:37 AM

      But it’s probably cuz it was a gay shark and not bi. I can’t stand Andy.

  18. Bree
    August 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Caroline crying makes me cringe.

    • August 12, 2013 at 12:38 AM

      She makes me cringe period.

      • August 12, 2013 at 10:13 AM

        Well, that too Jules!

      • August 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM

        Oh yes she does!

      • Sue
        August 17, 2013 at 3:34 AM

        You can say that again. Is she on the show just to be able to keep up her house payments like Insane Jac is? What is the real rift between Car and Dina?

    • Laram
      August 12, 2013 at 1:13 AM

      She looks like she is having a convulsion when she cries. It’s weird. Then she just stops. Weird.

      • August 12, 2013 at 8:49 AM

        That is what I was thinking. She goes into full on sobbing, then just stops. It’s hideous and fake, too.

        • Jack Hole
          August 12, 2013 at 11:22 PM

          What I HATE and I have always found awkward to watch is when she adds the melodrama to the crying by saying, ” I can’t…” as she waves her hand and shakes her head very sadly…(gagging)! I just thank jesus these are not my parents!!!!!!

        • Deb G
          August 13, 2013 at 9:25 AM

          gessiewtf, well put!

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        August 12, 2013 at 8:55 AM

        The director probably gave her a signal to stop…

        • kayswhims
          August 12, 2013 at 10:04 AM

          LMAO

      • August 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM

        Right?! VERY weird.

  19. Spaghetti Kitten
    August 12, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Jax = vain/shallow and most of all EVIL!

    • Detroitrockcity
      August 12, 2013 at 1:43 AM

      Why does she keep saying she’s helping her son recover???? He doesn’t have a cold jackass! It drives me nuts every time she says it!! 9 hours of therapy? School,babysitter!! Poor baby needs to recover from his crazy,delusional,drunkass mothers neglect!! Shame on her!!!

      • August 12, 2013 at 2:16 AM

        Thanks Detroit, This is the stupidest thing I have EVER heard from the mother of an autistic child. RECOVERY, like autistic kid’s become non autistic. Like I said before, my lovely, wonderful sil can’t find the time to go to her doctor or dentist unless I’m available to “babysit” him. Recently, my nephew’s brother was graduating from military school 4 hours away, I told my brother and his wife to go, I would spend the weekend with Aaron. It was the hardest thing I have ever done, as he is very high on the scale and had to watch his every move. They ended up driving home the same day because they know how difficult it is to deal/watch an autistic child. Humor here, I went outside for one minute to feed the dogs, guess what? Aaron locked me out of the house. lOl Thank God I thought and put the house key in my pocket.

        • Detroitrockcity
          August 12, 2013 at 7:15 AM

          I used to babysit for my cousin timmy, we had to lock all the doors and windows at bedtime. When everything was quiet at nite,he would sneek out of his bed and get out! Needless to say one nite on my watch;/ he got out the bedroom window, got into the garage (his dad restored cars) painted everything before we found him!! What a crazy nite,he was covered in every kind of paint his dad had? My point is with a special needs child you have to be on the ball,they are unperdictable and so fragile!? Why leave it up to someone else to do your job

          • August 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM

            This is very common-Jac seems to care so much more about herself than her own kids-how sad!

      • August 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM

        Because she will “recover” him with the help of blk. She is one disgusting human being and I cannot believe she was once my favorite.

        How are you Detroit?

        • August 12, 2013 at 5:30 AM

          Recover: To regain a normal or usual condition. So what is the opposite of normal? Poor choice of words. She hasn’t lost him? He’s there, she is discovering him if anything. Discover: To notice or learn, especially by making an effort

          • August 12, 2013 at 8:51 AM

            I personally think they have the kid on overload. done by others, of course, but too much stress.

        • Detroitrockcity
          August 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM

          Hey hey moma! I’m good, hope all is well with you and your family! Max must be growing like a weed!:) My grandson turns 13 on the 14th so we are throwing an epic boys party at a waterpark nearby! He misses his Dad, but he’s doing really good! I just thank God everyday I atleast have him!! 🙂 We only have but a moment,why not make it last? Blink and its gone ;(

          • elemcee
            August 12, 2013 at 12:37 PM

            DRC, that party sounds like it is going to be the most fun! Best birthday wishes to your grandson!

          • Jeannie5233
            August 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM

            Whoo! Hoo!! Enjoy DRC! So glad you have him and I am sure he keeps you on you toes! 🙂

            • Detroitrockcity
              August 13, 2013 at 7:36 AM

              Just saw your comments,I always have to look back!;) Thanks I’m sure we will have a blast! !Luv to you all!! Where ever you call home ; )

        • August 12, 2013 at 10:20 AM

          I did like her also-a long time age 😉 What was I thinking??? Every time I think about the claims they made about BLK-it makes my head want to explode!! How dare they??

      • kayswhims
        August 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM

        If Jax was reading about autism, she was bound to find out about alcoholism. She should seek help for her addictions and bring awareness to help future families.

        “Autism families with a high incidence of alcoholism.
        To determine the significance of neuropsychiatric disorders in autism families, we analyzed 167 pedigrees ascertained through an autistic child; 39% had alcoholism in patterns consistent with transmission of a genetic trait. Children from high alcoholism families were more likely to have the onset of their autistic behavior occur with a loss of language (52.5% vs. 35.8%, p = 0.04). This occurred primarily in families where the mother was alcoholic (80% vs. 40%, p = 0.05), suggesting an association between maternal alcoholism and regressive onset autism. Children from high alcoholism families were less likely to be macrocephalic (14.7% vs. 40.6%, p = 0.0006). Children from high alcohol and low alcohol families did not differ in dysmorphology status, IQ, sex ratio or sib recurrence risk. ”
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12959419

        • Isolde
          August 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM

          Wow, Kay, what a great find about the correlation of alcoholism and autism! I don’t like to judge whether or not someone has a particular issue, however Jac put herself and her habits and behavior on television for all to see. What she has shown us is that she tends to turn to alcohol when she is happy, when she is stressed, when she is upset, and when she is angry. Personally, when my children were young, and we were entertaining, and everyone was drinking, I didn’t because I had to take care of my children first and foremost and I could have a good time without it. Even though my children are older, I still don’t drink on a regular basis (a drink 2-4 times a year, if that), because I want to set an example for my children. I don’t handle stress very well sometimes, but I don’t turn to alcohol, because I believe in order to solve problems, you have to be clear headed.

          I cannot imagine dealing with a special needs child and drinking (not even young children w/o any issues). The one fact provided in that article, “children from high alcoholism families were more likely to have the onset of their autistic behavior occur with a loss of language”..really jumps out in this case. They claimed they noticed a regression particularly with language about 18 months. I wonder if Jac ever came across this article in her constant research??

          • kayswhims
            August 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

            She speaks of being given a platform to bring awareness to austism. She did not have to become a poster mom for autism. She could have remained in the background. Now she has opened herself up to be examined about her knowledge of austism.

            If it is true that she gets real about austism, she would have found the data by now. She googles other things. Autism Groups raise money for research. I would hope they would have this data available to families. research on the cause is just as important as research on treatment.

            • elemcee
              August 13, 2013 at 12:14 AM

              Kay, I read this earlier to my son. We were stunned. It is frightening how little we understand about the human body and our health. That is really good information to have for a future parent. Thank you.

              • kayswhims
                August 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM

                Your welcome. That old saying that what you don’t know won’t hurt you, is wrong. The human body is amazing. I was born premature. There are many issues that revolve around that. I am grateful for all the research. I am glad I can find so many things online about it as well as others who I can relate with.

      • August 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM

        Amen!!! @Detroitrockcity

    • Sue
      August 17, 2013 at 3:36 AM

      AGREED!

  20. August 12, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    I hope the New York Post is wrong. They are stating that the Manzos are getting their own spin off. Why in the world would they, of all people,be getting their own show????????

    • Detroitrockcity
      August 12, 2013 at 1:46 AM

      I read that too! No way no how!! Count me out!! ;/

    • August 12, 2013 at 8:55 AM

      It shows the beginning of the end of Andy Cohen’s downfall. I prefer to think of it like that. Because nothing is more fascinating than watching some schlubs run a catering hall and and have a few drinks in a restaurant that they own a share in. And fat, mean, ungrateful Lauren with her sourpuss. Riveting t.v. Andy. I hope it does as well as your other silly spin-offs.

      • August 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM

        I agree Gessie…beginning of the end!

      • August 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM

        Hello gessie-you are so right!!! Worse than watching paint dry!

      • Anonymous
        August 12, 2013 at 12:02 PM

        My feeling exactly. I stopped watching RHBH (can’t stand Traylor). Stopped OC ( can no longer watch Icky schlep her boozes). Stopped NY, ( don’t like the countless). So I’m sure I’ll have no problem finding some paint to watch dry instead of DaManzo show.

      • windycitywondering2
        August 12, 2013 at 6:07 PM

        Thinking about the scene to come of Vito and Lauren where she says she just doesn’t care about getting married now….wondering if they are setting up Lauren’s wedding that will obviously be using the Brownstone in some way, shape or form. Yawning………….

        • Jeannie5233
          August 12, 2013 at 6:21 PM

          Bingo – Fame did an article about Lauren getting engaged. I think she is and that it was filmed. I agree – those who will watch this potential Bridezilla (she already is a Snidezilla) and Caroline being the MOB from hell (remember Lauren couldn’t even name her own store – she hated the name Cafface but Caroline insisted and shut her down) will need a whole lot of caffeine to get through it. I will not be one of them as I can’t think of anything less appealing – Ugh.

          • Isolde
            August 12, 2013 at 9:19 PM

            I am wondering if Lauren thinks she is too good for Vito now that she has lost some weight. Maybe she wants something more handsome, more exciting, more RICH!! I absolutely will not watch a show of the Manzos. They may be perfectly nice and the center of attention in the Manzo and Laurita families, however they have shown such obnoxious and appalling behavior (especially talking behind people’s back and making such crude, vulgar comments), I would never watch a show centered around them. I don’t even like their scenes in RHONJ. Bravo keeps putting on more and more sleazy shows and this would be another one of them. Just the news of a spin off show of the Manzos, makes me want to boycott Bravo and even NBC–and stop watching that channel altogether.

            I would love to hear Cohen’s argument and sales pitch for why he thinks a spin off of them would be interesting, appealing or entertaining. They need some new personnel in their development department, because this is absolute nonsense about a spin off for them. Bravo has overdone the HW shows and spin off shows, and are turning off their audience–at least all of us here on this site.

            • elemcee
              August 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM

              Lauren had better lose a lot more weight, cuz she is not even close to thin. I think she claimed she weighed 180 lbs when she had her lapband, and she lost 40 lbs? She most assuredly does not look like she weighs 140 lbs now. So, I am going to guess she really weighed 210 lbs, because you are supposed to be 100 lbs overweight before your doctor will consider a lapband. And, she looks like she now weighs about 170 lbs. But the good news is, she could cut off her head and lose 20 lbs instantly, and then Vito will finally propose, and she will finally have validation in life. Her mother and brothers will be so proud!

              • becca
                August 13, 2013 at 11:49 PM

                I am so glad someone else finally called Lauren out on her weight loss. I’m a nurse and no reputable surgeon would do a lap band on someone who only needed 2 lose 30 lbs. You have 2 be at least 100lbs overweight and usually with a body mass index of 50. You couldn’t’ even pay a good bariatric surgeon 2 do the surgery if you didn’t meet those criteria

      • Deb G
        August 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        Gessie, I hope your right!! Why would the Manzo’s get a spin-off??? Caroclown’s book failed, nobody in their right mind would take advice from Let Me tell You Nothing!!!

      • Anonymous
        August 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM

        Kind of feel Bravo programming is getting exponentially worse. Been on a Bravo “diet” (Sheraton doesn’t carry Bravo), just reading assorted websites.

        I think if anyone (with the requisite time and patience) watched all of the RHWNJ and comes from a family that emphasizes personal responsibility, loyalty, and work ethic formed an opinion about the show, it’d be that T has some REALLY horrible relatives and they are her coworkers. Genius.

        Don’t know about the indictment stuff. For all that the Giudices’ cast mates had to say (name calling, derisive comments, finger pointing, blame, accusations, et al), I hope T and her husband tell every.single.unfortunate.thing they may happen to know.

    • August 13, 2013 at 8:59 AM

      You know if they do get their own show, then they will need Teresa to do a guest appearance inorder to have ratings at least for that episode. 😉

  21. Southern
    August 12, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Im glad teresa is telling her truth. Call these jeolous bitches oit for there no good ways. Caroline stop trying to cry on cue. Wacky dont tell me bout your sex life. I want to puke. Horsey just admit you’re a prostitution/whore. Koma cook a cake or some boring shit you do. Andy, stop hoping joe guidice, would kiss, lick, touch your ass. Maybe that the reason, he love joe marco so much. Joe marco & horsey would eat andy’s doodoo for a good edit .
    Sorry for the mean comments but damn can anybody but tre & her family get a bad edit. If you gonna expose one expose them all.

  22. elemcee
    August 12, 2013 at 2:13 AM

    I see in the previews for next week, TSIL gets extensions again. Hopefully, she will stop yanking at her hair.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      August 12, 2013 at 2:56 PM

      I heard her extensions get torn out each time a “date” is holding her hair so she can give him a “performance”.
      Ouch!
      I was foolish enough to read a bit more of the ‘ho’s book on Amazon and my hair caught on fire and my head exploded. I’m on a Shore Whore rant right now until the Wild Turkey kicks in. (It’s 5:00 someplace…)

      • elemcee
        August 12, 2013 at 3:49 PM

        OMG SR! Lol. We will take up a collection and buy you a good wig… I don’t know where to get you a head transplant. I will make some calls.

        • Jeannie5233
          August 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM

          Oh you two are so funny – thanks for the chuckle!! 🙂

  23. EricaK
    August 12, 2013 at 2:50 AM

    How annoying was horsey face tonite on wwhl? When they were playing that guessing the song game of old sitcoms, she was trying to be cute but came off as totally annoying. Ugghhh and I’m sick of her lying about her nose. Someone had a question about if she had a new nose and she said no that her makeup artist contours it. I used to be a makeup artist and there is no way you can contour that big potato nose she used to have to make it look like it does now. No way! And by the looks of it she’s had at least two surgeries on it. She had them shave the hump on the bridge to flatten it out a bit and then refine the tip. Anyways, it just irks the hell out of me that she just can’t admit to anything and she thinks the audience is dumb. Also, the Bravo summer commercial came on the other day where her and Gretchen were on it surfing and have a drink. My boyfriend was watching and made a comment about how they could of picked hotter housewives for that part than two giant horseheads. Lol!

    • August 12, 2013 at 8:56 AM

      She has had multiple nose surgeries, and each time I see her she looks less and less like herself. I guess she thinks that if she changes her face none of her johns will recognize her.

      • kayswhims
        August 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM

        LMAO

  24. August 12, 2013 at 3:35 AM

    Melissa gorga lied about her nose job on WWHL and said it was makeup contouring.. Can someone please tweet andy a side by side before and after pic? Lol seriously…

  25. August 12, 2013 at 4:59 AM

    im so tired of this wacky that when i see her i just fast forward :)))

    but next episode looks like fun, FAME can u find some more onfo on whats gonna happen?i have a doubt that teresa will be blamed again for trying to find some info abt whorga.

  26. August 12, 2013 at 5:22 AM

    “My son was having 9 hours of therapy a day between school and his at-home therapies. I had plenty of time to tweet. Besides, I mostly work from my computer so it’s really convenient. I didn’t think that was a fair judgment. She had not been around Nicholas since he had been diagnosed with Autism, so she had no idea how much time and energy I put into recovering my son, or how emotional it can be at times.”

    ” think it’s really important for parents of special needs to take some time for themselves once in a while. A lot of effort goes raising a child with special needs on a daily basis. At times it is physically and mentally exhausting, just like it is for a parent of typical kids. If you take a little break once in a while, you will go back in fully charged, more focused, and more determined. When you take care of yourself, you can better care for others. It’s easy to neglect yourself from time to time when you’re so focused on your family’s needs.”

    Did anyone else find these paragraphs conflicting?

    I just finished watching the Frenemies ep. Joe Gorga is a dill! His behaviour on that set was TERRIBLE! Missy telling Teresa to be a good little girl in such a condescending manner. Her blatant attempt at ripping off Carrie Bradshaw… ugh. Cringe cringe cringe!

    I loved that Jac couldn’t tell Teresa what she had done. Even in the bluster above, Teresa still did nothing to her to warrant such treachery. You don’t like changes in your friend so you tell the world her husband had someone bent over their desk? I think the reason most viewers can’t figure it out is because we left highschool many years ago.

    Can I just say how awesome Milania is??? Can’t wait to see what Miss Gia said to the numpty.

    • Detroitrockcity
      August 12, 2013 at 8:01 AM

      Hey Sackem! How’s our Princess Ava?? She’s probabley stealing every heart that passes by;) You now know like most of us that it is unnatural to leave your child in someone eleses care for that long? Am i wrong?? How can you?? And then say you are so tired blah blah blah?? And then brag that you have all the time in the world to tweet or whatever? My head hurts!! I call bs on her poor excuses!! Have another one Jax, you are almost convinceing yourself!!But we can read between the lines!! I recomend this really awsome site called Famewhorgas! That is if you need to fill up all those hours that your not with your son? !? Its pretty spot on! Maybe you’ll learn something??

    • August 12, 2013 at 10:19 AM

      Very conflicting. 9 hours a day he is away but then she needs a break? Whatever…

    • Isolde
      August 12, 2013 at 9:45 PM

      Hi Sackem, much love to you and your family, and hugs for sweet Ava! I totally agree with you, everything about this woman is a contradiction. Even when she brings up how Teresa hurt her with the tweeting and her son comment, that just had happened this season. It was not something Teresa did last season to hurt her, to turn on her the way that she did. Simply put, she was trying to pull something out of her bleached ass, to say to Teresa, because Teresa didn’t do anything to hurt her. It was all part of the scheme to hurt the Giudices and expose them and try to chase her off of the show, in addition to whatever treachery she was up to with taking part in this latest legal news.

      Milania is just too cute for words, and you will absolutely love the talk between Gia and TB! She was so direct and well spoken and sincere in her feelings. A twelve year old is old enough to be aware of all that is going on, especially when they witness it, and with all the technology, it would practically be impossible to keep secrets within a home. She was poised, elegant and respectful in everything she said, and put the adults to shame, that they cannot sit down and communicate the way that she did. She was even sensitive to her uncle, that he might be uncomfortable talking about all of it with her.

      It is a shame that her uncle tells her if she wants to talk about anything she can, and then we recently hear that TSIL hung up on her, because she wanted to discuss the hurtful things that they said about her mother and father. I know from my own children and their friends, when they hit the preteen and teen years, they are pretty opinionated, and not afraid to discuss issues and express their feelings. In our day, we might not have been so open about speaking to our elders about certain issues and our opinions, but that is not the case, with this generation of children. Honestly, I am glad my children discuss openly their feelings, instead of bottling them up. Anyone who criticizes Gia for that conversation, is way off base. She was thoughtful and mature about it, and her uncle’s comments to her first, gave her the opening to discuss her opinion. I wish all children her age had the maturity and the confidence to discuss their feelings openly.

  27. surfergirl
    August 12, 2013 at 6:31 AM

    What does she want!? What do any of them want from Teresa? She’s said she’s sorry, that she never meant to hurt anyone but if she did then she’s so so sorry. I know Teresa isn’t the best at apologizing and oftentimes tries to justify it which minimizes the sincerity of the apology but she has apologized and acknowledged that she’s hurt people. What more can she possibly do to at this point to satisfy these people? Is it maybe because they’re projecting the fact that THEY have actually failed to apologize for what THEY’VE done TO HER, or if they did it was a quick one time only apology and that was enough for Teresa even if she was just as incredibly hurt by their words and actions? They continue to crucify her for wanting and being able, or at least trying really hard to move on while they refuse to ever budge and let anything go. They want to live in the muck and negativity while Teresa is trying hard to rise above it and be there for her kids. You can’t be a good parent if you have a dark cloud always hanging over your head. Forget everything that’s going on in the show and off camera in the courts, she’s not putting on a happy for face for any of you, cast members and the public, she’s doing it for her children.

    If Teresa has apologized to you a billion times before and you have yet to then you must be stupid if you expect her to apologize to you again after you finally admit to your wrong doing in causing her hurt and pain. Maybe they haven’t been keeping score but I have and not even very closely, yet I’ve run out of digits on my hands and feet to count the times Teresa has apologized while everyone else I can count on one hand, if not one finger (guess which one) the instances in which they’ve apologized to her and/or her husband and family. They need to realize that their unwillingness to accept and acknowledge her apologies is not the same as her not apologizing for what she’s done. She wants to move on and they interpret that as being fake. They want to hold a grudge and keep picking and picking at her and living in the negativity which most people watching see as insane and immature. Yet despite all their carpetbagging and bringing up the past, if Teresa even dares to do the same to make a point or give them a taste of their own medicine then she’s the one not letting go. How these people watch their episodes and not see their own very evident hypocrisy is unbelievable to me. They just don’t get it. You all wanted to take Teresa down but all you did is make her an even bigger, relatable, endearing and sympathetic star to the viewing public.

    I simply cannot stand people who want apologies because you’ve hurt them, demand them even but never tell you specifically what it is that you’re supposed to be apologizing for, and then accuse you at any chance they get of never apologizing for it. If any of these cast members truly want to move on and need Teresa to apologize in order to do so then they should write out a list of all the wrongs she’s done to them so that she knows what for and why she’s apologizing. After doing that just fucking try to demand another apology. That’s why no one ever goes on the record because once a person has apologized for something you look like a lunatic asking for another and another and another and another, and… I mean, come on, what would you do if someone kept telling you (and others about you) that you need to take responsibility but whenever you ask responsibility for what exactly?, their response is never an actual response but just an expectation for you to be able to read their minds and work from there? I would have either pulled my hair out or run someone over by this point. Actually, no, I would’ve just cut them out of my life because no one, family or friend, is worth this lunacy. It doesn’t even make for good TV anymore, stupidity, immaturity, stubbornness, negativity and hate are not entertaining, at least not to me.

    Sorry for the long rant but I just can’t with these nut jobs. They must not be able to walk a straight line from going around in so many circles (not to mention the bottomless wine glasses.)

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:44 AM

      Great post!

    • Stella729
      August 12, 2013 at 8:03 AM

      When Melissa apologized for contacting Danielle, everyone including Teresa accepted her apology. And I haven’t seen teresa continue to bring it up over and over again.

      • Stella729
        August 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM

        And no one accepts Teresa’s apologies ever

    • Marty
      August 12, 2013 at 8:18 AM

      Great post!!

      Million dollar question………………

      What Exactly did Teresa do????

      • August 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM

        She became the star of the show! 😉

        • Miss Alicat
          August 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM

          Ain’t that the truth!!!

    • Detroitrockcity
      August 12, 2013 at 10:05 AM

      Whats really weird is that all my hookups to watch when I miss a show are now gone or blocked? I think someone forsaw this on here? Wtf? Can someone tell me why Teresa has to say she’s sorry?!? Someone omited that part!!;/

    • windycitywondering2
      August 12, 2013 at 6:25 PM

      What cheeses me the most about the RHNJ apologies – there seems to be different rules regarding everyone’s apology! Teresa’s are never accepted!

      She is either not sincere enough (Caroline says) or her apology is supposed to extend to other people (Kathy thinking Teresa has to make her parents accept Kathy’s apology!) or done incorrectly in person or even doing it in a tabloid so everyone can’t say they didn’t get one out of sheer frustration or apologizing for the wrong thing when you are never told what the right thing is (Melissa) and then the one owed for nothing at all (Wacky Jacky).

      Why don’t they all grow a set and say TERESA I AM NEVER GOING TO ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY! so the poor woman can stop feeding into the annoying, petty, self righteous, cruel and insincere nonsense from those who clearly own her a big fat, kiss her ass apology!

      • kayswhims
        August 12, 2013 at 8:46 PM

        Exactly. Teresa does not like going around in circles. She wants to get things done

  28. August 12, 2013 at 6:35 AM

    the thing i took away from this episode is, Teresa makes the show her and her family. I was so bored watching ever scene without her in it. Caroline is so boring, jacaloon boring, and i forget the rest of their names, but they can’t carry a show. They better hope Teresa films another season or they are dead in the water. As far as the manzo’s getting their own show, it will get canceled first season, they lack star appeal. I never really realized until this episode how much light Teresa brings bravo needs to take notice of their star, and treat her better. I do think i’m starting to like Rosie a little, it’s so hard because every time i see her i just remember the reunion. I wish that would have never happened or she could be one of my favorite’s. she has a spark, but i have to hold my breath, she might explode. The rest of them can go.

  29. Anonymous
    August 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    Hi everyone. I’m traveling for the rest of the month. I didn’t get to watch last nights episode but I received a text yesterday from someone connected to Bravo saying the Manzo’s are getting a reality show on Bravo next season. Ugh!!! Anyway, I’m so busy and behind on Fames blogs and haven’t had a chance to go through the comment section to see if anyone mentioned this…Additionally, I haven’t had time to respond to my text and ask questions but when I do, I’ll fill you all in if I get more details.. have a great day.

    • August 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM

      Thanks for the info-who on earth will watch this???

      • Miss Alicat
        August 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM

        Andy.

        • August 12, 2013 at 7:31 PM

          And little holes continue to pierce my retinas, as I read the name, “Andy”.

          • Miss Alicat
            August 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM

            lol

  30. August 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    Same old, same old…
    If the Manzos get a show, I can’t see it doing well at all. I remember how much I loved their family the first couple of seasons. But I noticed and was quite surprised how unfunny and uninteresting they have been. Then I found this site, found out who they really were and it all made sense! They lost their shine and sparkle and won’t be able to get it back.

    And sorry Jacqueline (not really) but if you are spending physical and emotional time acting like a nutbag on twitter, you in fact, are taking valuable time away from a special needs child who NEEDS you to be present. Why aren’t you present at his therapy sessions for 9 hours learning yourself instead of spewing irrational, jealous hate on twitter?

    I’m still taking solace in that this week’s episode, again, makes Jac look bad as well as TSIL. For them to show Caroline saying how surprised she was that a sick CJ hadn’t heard from his mother since she landed in CA was not a good look for her. Yay!

    And I have to say on WWHL, the look on Andy’s face when TSIL was asked about Jan next week and she couldn’t deny the rumors so she goes for the non-denial denial and says it’s so crazy and therefore no one believes it, priceless. Andy made that face of, um actually MeHo, no one believes you!

    Gives me some hope that these nasty, jealous people will get their comeuppance. Some.

    • Detroitrockcity
      August 12, 2013 at 9:45 AM

      Whats really weird is that all my hookups to watch when I miss a show are now gone or blocked? I think someone forsaw this on here? Wtf?

    • August 12, 2013 at 10:01 AM

      9 hours a day-I do not believe that!

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      August 12, 2013 at 10:02 AM

      What would a Manzo show entail? A bitchy, bitter girl sitting in an empty beauty shop making snarky remarks? (The girl probably thinks the 3 commute to work is too much.) Two spoiled Mama’s boys playing “businessman” in a shady pyramid company or pretending to work in a restaurant they don’t even own? Carowhine bursting in to tears every time she thinks one of her “babies” might move more than 5 minutes away? Al getting more and more pissed and resentful for having to support a houseful of lazy leeches? Wow – the storylines are just endless…

      • August 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        It does sound fun, doesn’t it?? 😉

      • August 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        It figures that both of these dumb asses(Ashlee & Lauren) aspire to be makeup girls. God forbid they should get a real education. I wonder if the are going to wax people’s privates as well. At least Ashlee is pretty. Lauren does her mother’s makeup like shit, she has no talent whatsoever.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          August 12, 2013 at 3:52 PM

          Ashlee can always bleach her mother’s…

          • windycitywondering2
            August 12, 2013 at 6:28 PM

            And wax her mother’s…..

            • Miss Alicat
              August 12, 2013 at 7:21 PM

              OMG You 2 have me rolling on the floor!!!!

        • August 12, 2013 at 7:26 PM

          OMG, how did I miss this. Thanks for the laugh gessie.

          • Detroitrockcity
            August 13, 2013 at 8:08 AM

            That’s tooooo funny;)!!

      • LifeIsGood
        August 12, 2013 at 5:21 PM

        Saddle_River, your description sounds like the old show, “Married with Children” Perhaps the Manzo’s are doing a remake? Only difference is, I remember “Kelly”, the daughter, was pretty and pleasant – the polar opposite of Lauren. The father’s name was “Al”, too!

  31. Saddle_River_NJ
    August 12, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    As a diversion – from the local Bergen Record newspaper:

    Sunday, August 11, 2013

    By ELISA UNG
    RESTAURANT REVIEWER

    They’ve overturned tables, yanked out each other’s hair extensions, waged fistfights while celebrating a baptism and filled many a dining room with a bleep-laden symphony of insults.

    Would you want “The Real Housewives of New Jersey” in your restaurant?

    Might the promise of national television exposure change your mind?

    “I wouldn’t even care if they did flip the table because that’s exciting and [would mean] even more buzz for us,” said Ida Assaf, the owner of Bibi’z in Westwood, who had to settle for a relatively quiet dinner scene with two of the show’s best-behaved cast members, Caroline Manzo and her husband, Al. It aired in July. Now, “every day I get customers saying, ‘Oh, this is our first time here, we saw you on the show,’ ” Assaf said. “Yesterday, I booked a party because of the show.” Bibi’z is one of a number of North Jersey restaurants showcased on the “Real Housewives” this season: Cast members have also gossiped at Bellissimo’s in Little Falls, ordered mimosas at Waterside in North Bergen and argued at The Brick House in Wyckoff. But the show has had a complicated relationship with local restaurant owners, some of whom weigh the pluses of publicity against the potential for damage to their property or reputation.

    In the beginning, the “Real Housewives” nearly doubled as a food tour of North Jersey. In 2009 and 2010, cast members hashed over drama while, among others, dining on Mediterranean fare at Varka in Ramsey, sipping banana blueberry smoothies at the Lenape Valley Grill in Oakland and making panini runs to Market Basket in Franklin Lakes.

    Rowdy incidents

    But the Housewives gave other establishments a reason to regret letting in Bravo’s cameras. Besides the infamous table flip (at Lu Nello in Cedar Grove), there was the hair extension episode at the North Jersey Country Club in Wayne, which later banned the cast and crew and apologized to its membership. Then, The Manor in West Orange allowed the show to tape a baptism reception there and its staffers wound up helping break up a family brawl.

    Over the next few years, those of us watching the show noticed that more scenes took place in the homes of cast members – not in public. We wondered whether restaurants were wary of the risks. Some said they were. In fall 2011, Christine Nunn, then the chef-owner of Picnic the Restaurant in Fair Lawn, said she turned down a request from Bravo to film in her 46-seat BYO (which has since closed). “Picnic was by no means large, and I like to think it was quite genteel,” Nunn said. “The thought of cameras and tables being flipped and things being thrown was about as appealing as chewing glass. I would not subject our customers to being a part of that.”

    There were also a few second thoughts at the Ho-Ho-Kus Inn, according to general manager Michelle Fusaro. Owner Laurie Hamm had been approached by Bravo producers a few years ago and had refused to let them film in the historic inn, Fusaro said. “She was concerned about her restaurant being destroyed, I’m sure.” When Bravo producers approached the inn this year, Fusaro – a big fan of the show — says she helped persuade Hamm to reconsider, saying the exposure would be positive. Caroline Manzo and fellow cast member Teresa Giudice were allowed to have a heated discussion in the inn’s private, second-floor Chateau Room (after the restaurant was promised that the talk would not physically escalate, Fusaro said). The episode aired in June and resulted in some positive buzz, though no dramatic increase in business, Fusaro said. It resulted in only one negative response – an email from a customer who “couldn’t believe we would associate ourselves with such trash,” Fusaro said.

    Al Manzo, Caroline Manzo’s husband and the owner of The Brownstone banquet hall in Paterson, says he doesn’t think restaurants worry about the risks – he points out that the physical confrontations have been few, and “we’ve filmed, maybe, 100 restaurants.”

    “Frankly, I think the busiest restaurant, of all the restaurants we’ve ever done, is probably Lu Nello, because that was the place where they flipped the table,” Manzo said. “So I don’t think they care too much about a couple broken dishes.” Manzo doesn’t think an appearance ends up being a huge financial windfall for most restaurants, either. Instead, “I think that the restaurant owners enjoy seeing themselves on TV and they also enjoy seeing their place on TV. It doesn’t cost them anything really to take the time for them to be on the show, so why not?”

    Some restaurants have seen a big impact. Summer is usually slow for Sear House in Closter, but owner Kenny Gjevukaj said he noticed an immediate uptick in customers after cast member Melissa Gorga was shown dining with real estate agent Jennifer Dalton last month.
    What’s more, all of those new customers seemed to be discussing the Housewives. “I was surprised at how many people watch that show,” Gjevukaj said. “It definitely had a nice impact.”

    Another argument

    In April, he says, the entire cast was present for a juvenile diabetes benefit and fashion show held by Dalton – which Gjevukaj said was taped for this season’s finale. And yes, he says, yet another big argument was filmed. Portobello Feasts in Oakland has long been a popular place for the Housewives to eat, drink, film and argue. But the “Real Housewives” appearances – including one on the show last month – haven’t affected business much in the already popular restaurant, said Rina Oh, the daughter-in-law of owner Frank Amen. “If anything, more people outside of New Jersey have heard of the restaurant because of the show,” Oh said. “We’ve had people drive up here from Florida, on a road trip, and they marked our location as one of the restaurants they wanted to visit. We’re OK with that.”

    Email: ung@northjersey.com Twitter: @elisaungBlog: northjersey.com/secondhelpings

    • Anonymous
      August 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM

      Thank for sharing this!

    • kayswhims
      August 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM

      my fav part – appealing as chewing glass – lol

    • GPM
      August 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM

      The place where “they” flipped the table, Manzo? Lu Nello is the place where TERESA flipped the table.

  32. August 12, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Hello all-hope you are all doing well today! I believe this show is just about played out-thanks to TSIL and TB.
    I will NEVER understand Wacko Jacko-why doesn’t she take her kids anywhere? I think that CJ would have had fun at the Zumba event! Maybe Nic too-our 3 year old Grandson is autistic and he is out and about as much as possible! He has about 6 hours of therapy A WEEK. His Mom is in the waiting room with her 2 year old ! Nic is a sweet and beautiful little boy and I wish him the best, ,but I do not pity Jac-AT ALL. She is a baby and she needs to act like a grown woman and be there for her sons. Lots of parents face the challenge of taking care of an Autistic child, and they do it with love and grace! I also believe that something is up with Jac’s parents-something is really off there—-they don’t act like parents-IMO

    —-Ana-Capri

  33. August 12, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    I’m being quiet because of the problems I’m having but I need to say one thing – it was the most boring episode EVER!
    Only GIA made it somehow good to watch but than all the rest crap .. boring, boring, boring
    And these extreme xxl lashes during surgery – I had Caesarean and transplant and two minor surgeries – NEVER EVER even thinking about wearing make up or lashes…and I’m rather girly type …
    Even with cameras in the room – it was plain stoopid, but what do we expect…

  34. August 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    I liked when TB said T has changed and Gia shook her head no. Favorite part was juicys toast, now that was a lol……I went on you tube and watched a whole lotta videos and I couldnt believe how rude some where to T, specially Anderson Cooper. I know now that Andy put all his NBC friends up too bashing T. How sad!! Also I seen an interview with Tsil and it made me realize how jealous she is. Melho said there fighting started before she was on the show. Yup,we know because she was so envious of T’s charm. Tre always speaks with chramisa and talks with her hands and now so does M ( well she tries to copy). She just isn’t believable like Tre is. Couldn’t stand watching her on WWhl, omg she was so fake and kept looking to the camera, like checking her self out.ewwww I just don’t like this phony chic. Something rubs me the wrong way. Now next week is gonna be good. I believe Jan just by the look on Melho’s face.. If my friend accused me of something like that I’m sorry but she would of got slap right then and there. Mel knows its true so she doesn’t even try to fight it. She said she’s not giving her the attention she wants. Oh please chic you shut up because you don’t want her to say more!! Truth will come out best believe.. Tre move on with your life because your Sil will always be jealous of you and will always be chirping in your brothers ear. To Mel you will NEVER be as popular like Tre so STOP trying ya damn fame whore!!

  35. Have2Say
    August 12, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    This is a little off topic for this thread but I read somewhere that Teresa and Greg used to be great friends, then she introduced him to the Manzos … and looked what happened? Is this true?

    • Jeannie5233
      August 12, 2013 at 12:54 PM

      I am not sure but I think I remember something about Greg and Albie going to college together. I can’t say that is for sure though.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        August 12, 2013 at 1:15 PM

        I always get a suspicion in the back of my mind that those two did more than attend college together. Caroline has an emotional connection that is a bit intense for a college buddy/friend. Absolutely nothing wrong if there is a relationship between the two – I’m just saying that the construct seems to point to it.

        • meri4911
          August 12, 2013 at 3:04 PM

          Did you notice that when Greg sat down with Albie and Chris he said “hi girlfriend? Not the usual greeting to a guy if he isn’t gay. Which is just fine..I have nothing against gays, in fact my oldest brother is gay, but if that’s the case just be open about it. It could be just Greg being Greg.. Who knows, I don’t really care just saying I found that odd.

        • August 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM

          I WAS WITH FRIENDS TODAY AND THEY THINK TINY AL IS TRYING TO ACT MEAN TO CAROLWHINE TO GET PEOPLE IN JERSEY N HOBOKEN TO VOTE FOR HIM

          • kayswhims
            August 13, 2013 at 9:21 AM

            He would need to seperate himself from the idea that he listens to Caroline’s advice. Also people would be concerned about his ability to lead anything if his own household is confused about their goals. He is basically stuck in limbo. If he tries to distance himself from his father’s reputation, he looks like a weak man standing next to Caroline.

      • windycitywondering2
        August 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM

        Albie and Vito went to college together. I remember Vito being concerned about Albie’s feeling when he wanted to date Lauren.

        • Jeannie5233
          August 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM

          That’s right WCW – thank you for clearing that up for me!!! So then, how did Greg become friends with the Manzos??

          • Silvana
            August 13, 2013 at 7:18 AM

            Greg is a family trend and also went to collage with albeit and vito.

    • NonnaB
      August 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM

      I highly doubt it – Greg has never been nice to Teresa and actually makes fun of her behind her back. Caroline said he was a long time friend of Albie’s. I always thought he was a friend of one of the producers of the show and they made up the story of a friend of Albie. Greg was quite the bad boy – I think the Manzo’s tamed him down. Maybe that’s why he’s moving.

      • tboz17586
        August 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM

        I also found it laughable that when asked why Greg hadn’t invited the Giudices….he simply said “I just didn’t think they’d want to”. PUH-LEASE, how come he’s not bitching and being mean spirited about them all of a sudden? He had a sit down talk with them too? Doubt it. All this buddy buddy stuff is crap. The meeting between Jac and Tre was ridiculous as well. So scripted and umpired all the way. How the producers could possibly think we’re falling for this, or we’ve been waiting for these scenes all along is beyond me. Yes we want to see things hashed out…but for ACTUAL VINDICATION WHERE IT’S DUE! Man!

      • embee
        August 12, 2013 at 4:30 PM

        Greg attended the Posche Fashion Show when Extension Gate happened. He was seated next to Teresa (who had Jacqueline on her other side) and they chatted pleasantly during the show. I don’t recall seeing him interact with her at any other time.

        • Silvana
          August 13, 2013 at 7:21 AM

          I remember Teresa saying that Greg was her gay husband till Messina came along. Can’t remember where I read that might of been an old blog from season 3.

          • Detroitrockcity
            August 13, 2013 at 8:24 AM

            I think it was the first posh show when Teresa made that comment? Maybe in Fames archives? I do remember it!

      • lucille mason
        August 13, 2013 at 5:02 AM

        gregg didn’t last long in ca,he;s back in jersey now lol

  36. Spaghetti Kitten
    August 12, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    I’ve only watched bits and pieces of the last episode and WWHL…just don’t have the “stomach” for it if you will, lol….but starting with Ashlee, and now of course with the blatant exploitation of her “son, who has autism,” Xanjax is ranking a close 2nd to the heinous actions of BHHousewife Taylor Armstrong on my list. Slade Slimey will always rank as #1 in my ongoing tally of despicable “Friends of the HW’s” but the recent non-scripted display by another OC “Friend” is Brianna’s violent hub, Ryan Culberson.

    • Bree
      August 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM

      That Ryan crap… I couldn’t believe Brianna stuck up for him.

      • August 12, 2013 at 6:23 PM

        Thank you, Bree I could not believe that whole scene. First off, Ryan lied about how he approached her about putting her feet on the sofa. On top of that, when she asked “who are you” he slipped and said “I own this house” I can not believe Brianna stuck up for him either. Then when Vicki put her arm around her, he had the gall to tell her not too. it really seems to me that Vicki allows him to dominate her in her own home. Even Vicki’s brothers said Ryan was way out of line. I think Ryan was showing his true colors in the scene. I think it would be in the best interest of all of them if Brianna and Ryan stay at their own home. I felt so bad for Lydia’s mom, he truly attacked her.

  37. smith
    August 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Just in case anyone was Dying to read TSIL book, the second chapter is shown on first look on amazon.

    More fiction awaits.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      August 12, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      OMG!!!! My friggin’ head is going to explode at the friggin outright LIES. Listen up kids! ‘Da bitch said in a talking head that she worked in a bikini bar for a “few weeks” – remember? Now the Midget says she was working in Joey’s on Allwood Road in Clifton (now Bliss Nightclub). Joey’s was never, EVER a “bikini” bar. And best my memory serves – they *never* had female bartenders. Then in the “book” she casually mentioned that she had *THREE* bartending jobs? Which one was the one where the men were giving her the $100 tips she mentioned? Working in “Joeys”? This shit might pass outside the area – but there are too many people who know the places she mentions and knows she is LYING!!!!! She claims that Macaluso’s (her wedding venue) has the “best cocktail hour in NJ”?!?! Really???? Don’t let that NYS&W freight train rumbling though in back of the building interrupt that fabulous cocktail dearie. I can make up shit too. White Castle serves the finest filet mignon in the world. Old Navy sells Couture fashion. Just because you say it doesn’t mean it’s real.
      Holy crap – I need a drink at this point. That stupid bitch is such a damned liar she really got me going…

      • August 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM

        What about her lies about teaching, she was a substitute teacher and student teaching and of course was offered the 1st job she interviewed for but Joe didn’t want her to work. She says she loved teaching, but instead took a 9-5 job in Joe’s office. No sex for 100 days, yet she moved in with Joe after 1 month.
        I really couldn’t read it all, it was too boring!

        • MurfsGirl
          August 12, 2013 at 7:43 PM

          Melissa, can you show us the W2 or 1099 for the time you worked for TB?

      • August 12, 2013 at 6:30 PM

        I have said this before, Saddle I love to read your comments because you live in the area and can honestly, with proof, call her butt out.

  38. August 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Can you provide the link? I cannot find it!

    • August 12, 2013 at 2:45 PM

      amazon.com, go to her book and click on look inside.

      • August 12, 2013 at 3:03 PM

        I am only seeing chapter one!

        • elemcee
          August 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

          Gessie, log in to your account. Or make an account. Then you can read more.

          I am skimming fast while on the phone. She is really going to use the word Gorganize. I cannot believe she is that stupid. Then she quotes Thoreau. So, we are supposed to believe she reads Thoreau, but she never read Homer. Or anything related to mythology. She really is a piece of work.

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            August 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM

            The only Homer that skank knows is Simpson

            • elemcee
              August 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM

              SRNJ, with all my heart, I love you! So, so true. Homer Simpson, I am dying here! But, she graduated college, right?

    • August 12, 2013 at 3:08 PM

      http://www.amazon.com/Love-Italian-Style-Secrets-Marriage/dp/1250041481/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376334360&sr=8-1&keywords=love+italian+style+the+secrets+of+my+hot+and+happy+marriage#reader_1250041481

      Click on “Look Inside”, then to the left, you are given these choices.

      Front Cover
      Copyright
      Table of Contents
      First Pages
      Index
      Surprise Me!

      • August 12, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        The picture is the link.

        • August 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM

          Thanks for the link, moma. I decided to waste 30 minutes of my time a read a few lines from this book. My first impression was, I can tell this is a very young marriage. Second impression was, Wow she really thinks highly of herself. Of all I read, when she was thanking her sisters for caring for the children while she HAD to be on the road performing and how hard it was for her to leave them. Does she honestly think her singing career is going anywhere? Are these little, tiny, minor venues worth TEARING yourself away from your children? Don’t most singing/acting careers start earlier in ones life? Oh yeah, saying Joey had their castle built within one year, didn’t Teresa and Joe spend several years restoring/building their home? ( which is normally the case) I took that as another one of her digs at T and Joe.

      • August 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

        Sorry I am such a moron. Spent the whole day on Dell tech support speaking to some moron in India. This has been going on for a week now. But, that is no excuse as to why I am so stupid. Thank you for posting the link. I am already nauseous, so this will probably put me right over the edge.

        • August 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM

          Oh for the love of God. Who would read this drivel? Is she kidding me? The whole thing about money seems like a slap in the face to Teresa. What a bitch. I HATE this woman.
          Don’t spend mopre money than you can afford to. Got that girls? You can look rich if you buy the best shoes you can afford and a fur coat? I’d throw paint on your fur coat you slutbag whore. Not because I am a rabid member of Peta, but because I probably wouldn’t get arrested for it.

          • August 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM

            I could not finish reading the first chapter. When I hit “Surprise Me”, it took me to the Blue Prints for a Better Marriage or something like that, again I could only read a few paragraphs. This book has a way of making people ill, seriously. I swear both times I tried reading her book, afterwards my head was spinning.

  39. August 12, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    TSIL’s blog is up.

  40. Dana Ferro
    August 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    “About the Author
    MELISSA GORGA and her husband Joe Gorga have been married for eight years. They have three beautiful children—Antonia, Gino, and Joey. A housewife and proud of it, Melissa blends old-school Italian values with a modern lifestyle that allows her to follow her passion. As a recording artist with multiple songs breaking the top ten Dance/R&B charts on iTunes, including “On Display” and “How Many Times,” she has a blossoming music career. Love Italian Style: The Secrets of My Hot and Happy Marriage is her first book, and she hopes you have as much fun reading it as she did writing it!”

    __________________________________

    Ok confused about her timing – above it says she has been married “8” years. I believe I read somewhere else they apparently moved in together after 3 months and married after 6 months together – but she always says in her blog this stuff has been going on between her and Teresa for 10 Years? which is it or am I wrong on the info?

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      August 12, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      According to her epic tome – they met in Cancun in 2000. They went out on a date in early 2001. They got engaged after 5 months (still 2001 according to MATH). Then she claims “5 months later” (to keep the tradition?) they get married in August 2004. The “5 month” thing she specifically mentions.

      Even funnier is her claim that the saying about being a “whore in the bedroom” was told to her by a Jewish woman who told her to be a “putana in the bedroom” Really? I just know sooooo many middle-aged women who use that phrase. Oh and the one little detail she mentioned was that this woman was her neighbor… Funny thing though. Looking through the tax records and deeds for all of the houses around the Pulis Ave. “mansion” – there were no residents that were “middle aged Jewish women” during the time period she is claiming. Could Our Little Harlot be stretching the truth just a tad?

      • yup
        August 12, 2013 at 4:00 PM

        no one had to tell Melissa to be a whore.

      • August 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

        Saddle River, you are my freaking hero.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          August 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

          A bottle of gin, a bit of free time and a keyboard for idle fingers is a recipe for Horrors for the Harlot

          • August 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM

            Saddle, love, love, love, your ability and knowledge to keep us up on the truth about this lying piece of crap.

          • August 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM

            heh heh! Excellent investigative work.

        • August 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM

          absolutly not reading a word of tsil book

      • GPM
        August 12, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        I’ve also struggled with Melissa’s timeline today. I re-read an article dated September 8, 2010 about Danielle Staub which says:

        “And get this—Staub says she was the one who introduced supposed new castmember Melissa Gorga to Housewives producers. The two women apparently bonded over their dislike of Teresa, who happens to be Gorga’s estranged sister-in-law. “The reason Melissa initially contacted me was to tell me she felt so horrible watching somebody else be treated as badly as she was treated by Teresa for over a decade,” Staub said.

        The “for over a decade?” statement really stopped me. The article was dated 2010, so over a decade ago would be 2000, right?

        And yet as Dana says, they keep referring to over 10 years. Even in the fight between Josephine and Joe Giudice, Joe’s saying they’ve had problems for 10 years. By their own timeline, it’s unlikely Teresa and the rest of Joe’s family even met Melissa before 2004?!?

        Unfortunately for my headache, the 2000 date plays into the whole “when we met in Cancun” story. In one version, Melissa is 21 and Joe is 25 — but that would have had them in Cancun in 2000.

        (Fame has a really great article on this at https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/10/12/who-is-the-mystery-man-with-melissa-marco-in-april-2003-a-month-after-she-first-met-joe-gorga/ that includes a picture of Melissa with another man dated April 12, 2003.)

        I always thought she and Joe started dating in 2003-ish, she graduated from college in January of 2004, they married in August of 2004, and that they were always fudging the date because they didn’t want people to know Joe was 28 years old and still Spring Breaking in Cancun because, yeah, that’s creepy and Melissa’s been saying that Teresa has been in a thorn in her side since 2000 to Danielle because she’s an pathological liar.

        Or did they meet in 2000, which would explain the whole 10-year reference but leads us down this crazy garden path of Melissa dating Bryan for four years after that and brings me back to the one thing I always want to know more about — WHAT’S THE STORY BEHIND JOSEPHINE’S TWO FAILED ENGAGEMENTS? When did those happen?

        I just keep thinking “Oh, what a wicked web we weave when first we practice to deceive” — the truth always has a way of coming out!

        • kayswhims
          August 12, 2013 at 6:59 PM

          From her book – TSIL heard TB was a womanizer who had been engaged twice. His truth – ( I love it when people say my truth instead of the truth) He got engaged at 20 to his highschool girlfriend that he was faithful to for 10 years, the broke off the engagement and he had flings. He did not mention the second engagment or explain how it was broken.

          • kayswhims
            August 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM

            I stand corrected he said the truth sorry

        • Calypso
          August 13, 2013 at 2:33 AM

          It’s amazing what we each take from these old articles. When I clicked on the FW link you posted and saw the first picture – I noticed the white strapless top the blonde had on and thought it looked familiar. A quick search later and there it is on TSIL. borrowed clothes??? (in the 3 picture collage just under the Lookers girls) https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/?s=cross+necklace

          it also has this and more -Here’s what Teresa knows (from RHONJ season 3 episode 6): Melissa started dating Joe in October 2003, moved in with him in December 2003, and married him in August 2004. In RHONJ season 3 episode 6, Joe tells the story of how they met in Cancun, and he says she was working three jobs at the time.

          You’re right that’s a great article. I find it funny – TSIL can’t remember when she met TB, how old she was at the time, whether or not she taught 2nd grade, or when she went to the hospital to see her father-in-law, but she didn’t forget the important stuff – to be whore in the bedroom and parking lot.

          What I don’t understand is – why lie about such trivial details? And, if she’s going to lie about the little trivial stuff like ages or dates why should we believe anything else that she says? I was just a bartender, I want to be close with the Gorga’s/Giudice’s, I’m not a cheater, and my all time favorite – I’M THE VICTIM! Yeah right and when did you meet your husband and where did you teach 2nd grade???

          • Canuk Guidette
            August 13, 2013 at 7:02 AM

            Text Book Narcissist. They will lie and contradict themselves in the same sentence and then tell you YOU’RE crazy!

            • kayswhims
              August 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM

              Amen

    • August 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

      She did not have multiple songs breaking the top ten of anything. The second one wasn’t even a blip on the radar. Why lie?

  41. August 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    She has a real hard time getting her stories straight!

  42. August 12, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Yeah, good catch? Bitch can’t even get her stories straight.

  43. August 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Ok, does Victoria Wakile always stand back and judge situations like she did on last night’s episode when they were waiting to get on the bus for the Nephcure benefit? Victoria’s mouth was open and her nose was crinkled like a jealous 1980’s valley girl! The way she was looking at everyone just rubbed me the wrong way, like she thought she was too good for Tre’s family, or something? My annoyance with her started at her joint Daddy/Daughter birthday party and she said something, like, “I don’t want to talk about that woman!” refering to Tre! I remember thinking, “what did she do to you, honey? Oh, yeah, her mom insulted your great aunt and great uncle!”. Richie seems to be letting his wife’s RHoNJ celebrity go to his head as does their college aged daughter! I felt sorry for her at first because her dad was such a vulgar jerk when he went to visit her at college. Which, the college visit was wierd since she commutes from home? Anyway, it just hit me that Victoria may join Ashlee/Ashley & Laureen in the “Bitter Daughter’s of RHONJ who hate Teresa Giudice Club!”.

    • August 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

      Great comment!

    • August 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

      In most cases, “an apple never falls far from the tree”. There are, of course, exceptions, but the New Jersey girls do not appear to be the “exception”.

      • tboz17586
        August 13, 2013 at 6:17 AM

        Victoria needs to learn to breath through her nose…..it’s very unbecoming.

  44. Happy Holly Daze
    August 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Wacko… “Dr… after my surgery, would you please have *your help* paint my face up nice and pretty, so I will look good for the camera?” Me:… “I don’t know about the camera… but by that picture up there, with her face wrapped up… I just threw up….” So classy that one….. Thanking everyone for posting pics and blogs for this girl, with no TV… Love ya all….

    • yup
      August 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

      I watch all the episodes online on this site. There are popups but you just close them whenever the come up:
      http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/the_real_housewives_of_new_jersey/season_5.html

    • GPM
      August 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

      Just wanted to congratulate you on no TV, Holly! My husband taught high schoolers from a farm family with no TV and it’s absolutely incredible how accomplished all of them have become — doctor, banker, director of nursing at a hospital, sheriff.

      I was as guilty as anybody when it came to sitting my daughter in front of (what I hoped was) educational TV when she was little, but in hindsight I think that was probably a mistake. Now that she’s grown up she has it on constantly as background noise, even when working or studying!

  45. August 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    I just read the little liars blog. IMO she is very jealous of Gia and Joey’s relationship. Gia has a special place in Joe’s heart and always will. Second off, Gia is Theresa’s daughter and we all know how jealous she is of T. She still puts little digs in her blog when it comes to T. ” our door is always open if she wants to talk with Antonia or the boy’s. Gia was there before Melissa and she can not stand the fact that her husband has “special” feeling for his niece. Joey has made a lot of mistakes recently with his relationship with Gia, but I do feel he loves her very much. Melissa would like nothing better then to pull Joe completely away from his entire family. Yes, it is up to him not to allow this to happen.

    One more thing, when Andy asked her about Gia wearing makeup at 12 years of age, her comment should of been, Gia look’s beautiful PERIOD She has to make it known that she would not allow her daughter to wear makeup at this age. She takes every chance she gets to dig at Teresa.

    • August 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM

      I’d be very concerned about those special feelings. The man is a sick bastard.

      • August 12, 2013 at 6:44 PM

        True gess, that very same thought crossed my mind while commenting on her blog. I Pray it’s nothing more than a true niece/uncle relationship.

      • Canuk Guidette
        August 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM

        yes gessiewtf! Finally someone posted it. I find it a litte weird…but who knows 🙂

        • August 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM

          Well, he does have see with his wife when he is mad at his sister, so I wouldn’t put anything past him. I seriously wouldn’t

    • August 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM

      I have a little sister who is a carbon copy of Tsil, minus the looks/body/husband/kids. It took me a while to realize that my sister, who is 8 years younger than me was/still is insanely jealous of the family life we had before her birth! I remember when I was looking at my mom’s older photo albums and tons of pics when my older sister and I were toddler’s were missing. My mom told me my little sister ripped them up in a drunkin’ rage! I was confused because I didn’t understand why she would rip those pics up. It hit me when I was once my lil’ sister’s facebook friend, years ago, and she had only pics of her with my parents, like she was an only child! Wierd! I figured it has to do with my sister being a narcissistic nut job and being extremely insecure is why she freaked out when she noticed my parents were parents before her birth! I guess when someone is a sociopathic narcissistic pathological liar they are jealous of everyone in life. Even children who were born before them! I take it Melissa is the same way. She is always going to be jealous of Gia in a more hateful way then she will be with Gabriella or Audriana (I think Tsil has a certain type of jealousy for Milania, too, since she is more popular than Tsil is!). What a sad, shallow life they lead! If Tsil is anything like my sister is then she will start to compete with her daughter soon, if she hasn’t been competing with her already. :(.

      • August 12, 2013 at 6:47 PM

        Agree Cee, Melissa is the type of person that would be jealous of her own daughter. She really is a sicko.

        • August 12, 2013 at 10:43 PM

          MEHOS GIRL HAS RED LIPSTICK ON IN UPPER PIC BESIDE HER MEHO

          • Bree
            August 13, 2013 at 1:29 AM

            I think that is for her dance recital Celi. She will find that Antonia will be wearing make up at 12 in normal every day life as well. It IS different these days for girls. And especially, with them being in dance, they learn from a very young age about make up and hair as that is a very important part of their stage look.

  46. Meg B
    August 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    XanJax (kudos to the poster who came up with the nickname) is a hot mess express. Wahhhh, life is hard, I need another needless plastic surgery procedure! When the series first started I actually thought Jac was kind of a cutie. Several seasons and countless fillers, Botox and Lord knows what else and it’s a shame. I’d almost feel sad for her if she wasn’t such a mess. She actually reminds me quite a bit of my mother in law, who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder. The excessive drinking, obsession with appearance, flagrant spending (just based on some of those amounts listed on the bankruptcy paperwork); everything is about HER and how hard things are for HER. It’s exhausting to deal with someone like that; I watch Jac and just cringe (of course, I also have MIL-related trauma so that doesn’t help!) Anywho…thanks for letting me vent; I’m at home with an awful sinus infection and two sick kiddos. I’m a SAHM and need a break. Maybe I’ll fly down to Beverly Hills for that tummy tuck. Ha!!

  47. tboz17586
    August 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    I just read the into to TSIL book……she actually writes “In a flash of insight I realised that our happiness was my choice. We both had an equal responsibility for each other’s security and happiness”. WHAT THE ACTUAL….?! I’m guessin’ she chose not to make him happy by crapping all over his relationship with his family?! I’m not even at chpt 2 yet…..my hat!

  48. black enga
    August 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    I know I left a comment earlier full of typos. What I wanted to say was my grand daughter was born with a birth injury, we are struggling to just have occupational and speech therapy once a week for an hour, and this stupid cow has the nerve to say no one knows what I go through, really? My daughters a mess with worrying if her daughter will even survive all the trauma she has had to endure just being born and lets not even talk about the medical bills. I wish we could afford that much help. She has nine hours of therapy and she uses that free time to reek havoc on the internet and start rumors and Gods know what else. Oh Caroline with that bs about how she cant take care of Nic because of Teresa, Bitch please. Every time she opens her mouth she says something to contradict herself. Best to just hang up all social media for your children’s sake. You have time to tweet but no time to buy a fresh bag of brown sugar to make poor Nic’s pancakes, wow. I almost choked watching her husband try to shred that hard ass brick. How much you want to bet that he probably has never had homemade pancakes let alone brown sugar and apple ones.

    All of this drama goes back to Dina Manzo and the relationship she still has with Teresa. Believe me Teresa holds the keys to the closet where all their skeletons are hiding. Why she doesn’t let them out I don’t know, maybe because of Dina’s Mom, I thought I read that somewhere. Could you even imagine the dirt she has on both Caroline and Jacqueline alone. It’s enough to make wonder why this woman is even sane at this point. These people are pure evil and will stop at nothing to bring her and her husband down. Hence the fight between the two Joes, I saw Kathy’s hand scratching and gauging right along with Melissa’s. Richie don’t even get me started on your twisted ass. Victoria I caught that serious side eyed snarl you were giving in last nights episode too. All of them are fake, disgusting scum. Aren’t those the words that Jax has said about Teresa in the past and these people like to repeat them to rub it in?
    They don’t care about her kids either. I hope Dina will take up the role of raising them if God forbid, they do go to jail. Her parents are struggling with heartbreak and poor health. Her other family members don’t really love them or care about them, they just see dollar signs. I watch body language, and I saw how they feel about them with my own eyes. You cant hide what is really in your heart and your eyes are the window to your soul.

    I see the puppet master and his name is Andy (pure evil) Cohen He had a hand in this whole mess, I would be willing to bet money on it. Him, the Lauritas, Manzo’s, Wakile’s, Gorga’s, Kim G, and her lawyer friend, evil witches, all of them. So profit while you can because this house of cards is about to fall. May God’s wrath be upon you.

    • LifeIsGood
      August 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      I’m sorry to hear about your granddaughter, black enga. I’ll keep her in my prayers.

      Love the observation about the pancakes, LOL! Brown sugar doesn’t last long enough in my house to solidify!

      I’m hoping T can get off with a suspended sentence. I think Juicy will try and take the fall to help her avoid jail time. I hope he succeeds – those girls would have a very hard time without her.

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:13 PM

      Love your post. Sorry to hear about your granddaughter, I hope things get better. My husband and I, as well as my daughter-in-law’s parents, took charge of a 7 year old and a 4 year old for only a few days. We were all exhausted at the end of the day.

      Jacqueline only cares about Jacqueline and choosing the easiest way to get the results she needs.

      As my parents always said, “God does not sleep” and I agree, this false façade they have all created, is about to collapse.

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:48 PM

      Black, Enga, great comment! I’m sorry about your granddaughter! I will say a prayer for your family. Jaq is too lost in her wine glass to see that her situation isn’t all that bad. Some people, like your daugter/ granddaughter, are worse off.

      That is a good catch about the brown sugar! I once bought brown sugar to bake with during xmas and by the summertime it was hard as a brick! I’m sure the pancake baking scene was all for show!

      You caught Victoria’s ‘evil’ look, too? She comes across as being snotty and she has no reason to be! Her dad is repulsive and her mom is a backstabber. I get that she loves them, but what did Bryan “Bulldog” say, “You don’t have to cosign their bad behavior!” when family member’s act like jerks!

      • August 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM

        Anyone who really cooks and uses brown sugar regularly, for their child’s pancakes, would know how to soften it. It is not rocket science.

        • August 12, 2013 at 7:48 PM

          Thank you moma! My 1st thought certainly isn’t to try and shred it. I keep mine in the freezer, always have several bags, get it out and nuke 20 seconds and then soften with my hands.

    • August 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM

      May God Bless your granddaughter, black enga.

    • windycitywondering2
      August 12, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      Prayers for your family as they work through your granddaughter’s challenges. What irks me are the people who post on Wacky’s blog and tell everyone to back off and give her a break because of all she is going through with precious Nicholas! I’m betting the majority of them do not have any idea what real, dedicated, mature parents do on a daily basis without complaint because of the love they have for their children.

    • August 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM

      YOU CAN BY A LIL TERACOTA GINGER BREAD MAN TO PUT IN THE BAG OG BROWN SUGAR N IT WILL NEVER HARDEN

    • kayswhims
      August 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM

      I agree. Andy is a puppet master . The thing about people who entertain themselves with power over others, they can not cheat death, someday they have to face who they really are inside and what they have done. All the things they gather does not last. Along the way, they collected many enemies and plenty of false friends.

    • August 13, 2013 at 9:25 AM

      I’m sorry to hear about your granddaughter. I’ll keep her in my prayers.

  49. Pippi
    August 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    OT I just read Caroline’s blog she needs to get her facts right. She said Jax takes no pain meds. Jax has and incredible tolerance to pain or some such thing. I remembered a tweet of Jax’s.

    The only time I take medication is after a surgery! Lol!Everyone that knows me knows I don't even take Tylenol or Advil when I'm sick.— Jacqueline Laurita (@JacLaurita) July 22, 2013

    They must be doing damage control for the prescription pill rumors.

    • Meg B
      August 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

      Ha! And thus the need for the continued plastic surgery! More surgeries = more meds, right?

      • August 12, 2013 at 11:59 PM

        She is no doubt a doctor shopper, she needs anxiety medicine because her son is autistic. She can get it from her psychiatrist, general practitioner, and gynecologist. I have no doubt she has quite a stash. Also, after her surgery she would have been sent home with a week’s worth of morphine and then a switch to vicodin or oxy. I have seen that operation put women in walkers. It is extremely painful. There is no way she endured that without pain meds. No way on earth.

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:23 PM

      I think Caroline is telling the truth, for once, if she made reference to “pain” medication.

      If I am wrong about what I am about to say, I will apologize. In my opinion, I believe Jac is on some kind of anti-anxiety medication, which she mixes with alcohol. Just google mixing that type of medication with alcohol and Jac’s picture should come up. In my opinion, she is also an alcoholic. Any person who cannot put the drink down on the evening before they undergo major surgery, knowing the risks as a result of drinking, has a big problem.

      • elemcee
        August 12, 2013 at 6:32 PM

        Didn’t Ashlee at some point say she is on Xanax “like her mother”? She was afraid to get on the plane. And, I thought I remembered her referencing her mother being on Xanax, also. ?

        • August 12, 2013 at 7:11 PM

          seems to ring a bell for me also, elemcee.

          • elemcee
            August 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

            I tried to find a clip, Gloria. I will try again tomorrow.

      • Tassie Devil
        August 12, 2013 at 6:42 PM

        Good Aussie Morn, MomaJ

        SPOT ON, But what pi**ed me off was she was told the dangers while her daughter sat there, she didn’t give a sh*t BUT the worst person she didn’t give a sh*t about was Nick (who she tells us he needs her full attention). I believe the Manzos know of her problems, you just have to see them look at her when she walks in a room.

        Moma have you a thought on the new BLK offices how can they have that when blk isn’t making money????????????????????????????

        Manzos Lauritas something in their expressions give me the CREEPS cant put my finger on YET.

        Lastly Greg & Bravo needs to say some sort of SORRY for the cancer comment, I have been in a room with family and friends and it certainly isn’t a nice place to be.

      • August 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM

        I totally agree with you moma about the xanax/alcohol mixture. I personally had terrible anxiety problems when my son became ill, I only took medication when absolutely necessary and NEVER drank alcohol. But, I do not believe Caroline when she said Jac didn’t take any pain meds after her surgery. I’m sure that I’m not the only one here that has experienced a major surgery and the pain that goes along with it. Like you said, if I’m wrong about this, I apologize. IMO, anyone who can not reframe from alcohol the night prior to surgery. I would consider an alcoholic.

        • August 13, 2013 at 2:27 PM

          Me too. You are usually advised to stop drinking for two weeks prior to major surgery.

      • LifeIsGood
        August 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        Moma, I would be very surprised if Jax is not on some type of anxiety meds – she needs them. I don’t say that as an insult – I say that as a human being who recognizes when someone is in crisis.

        I also agree with you about the alcohol – thats where it takes a dangerous twist. I don’t like Jac, but I’ve been saying for awhile that her family needs to step in and help her. They need to stop worrying about Bravo, stop worrying about what people will think or say, stop worrying about the blogs and get her some help.

        She may find herself in a situation very similar to Teresa’s in the not so distant future and she’s not up to handling it.

        • August 12, 2013 at 8:30 PM

          I all most feel sorry for Jac, but, not really, yet. I believe her (the) “family” will use her as a “scape goat”. Everything seems to be in “her”name.

    • Canuk Guidette
      August 13, 2013 at 6:40 AM

      Exactly Pippi! Why even mention pain meds and why say something so outlandish? Huge incision, layers of fat and muscels being removed, muscles being severed, pulled taught, then reattached?? NO WAY she didn’t have any pain medication. You wouldn’t even be able to pull yourself out of a chair or go to the toilet alone for days afterwards! Yes, damage control, or the “attempt” at damage control.
      Maybe she doesn’t feel pain because she’s in a constant buzzzz? And why admit that you take Xanax but you can’t admit you took pain meds after a major surgery? And yes, if you absolutely had to have a drink (even if you sipped a shot alllll night) you HAVE A PROBLEM. And if her doctor truly said she could, then he probably saw that her abstaining would cause more HER (ahem, cough cough…alcoholic!) harm and distress than good.

    • happylady
      August 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM

      Oh, thats right, I forgot, she’s superwoman. its emotional pain that she can’t tolerate then, right?

  50. teramusique
    August 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Seeing Jacqueline’s cut off skin sitting there on the table was the single grossest thing that has been shown on this show. That was so unnecessary. We watch this show to see what’s going on with Teresa. Who’s fighting with Teresa now. Not to see Wacko Jacko’s belly cutlets!

    • mare
      August 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

      I didn’t watch, but my daughter informed me this morning that Housewives had the most disgusting thing she had ever seen on tv. This from a huge Walking Dead Fan. Her point was that on Walking Dead you know it isn’t real. She said it was real skin on the table. She was really disgusted.
      This is what I like about waiting to see the show. I might try to catch in reruns just to she Gia show how much smarter than Zio Joe she is. Go Gia!

      • elemcee
        August 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

        It wasn’t just skin! It was so revolting, like 3-1/2 inches thick! I worked in medicine for a lot of years, and my bestie had a tummy tuck, but I did not realize they actually cut your stomach off your body. It was so, so freaking nasty.

        • windycitywondering2
          August 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM

          Wondering how she can now wear a bikini and have it look right….that was a lot of skin and stuff!

          • August 12, 2013 at 7:44 PM

            Just start humming a chorus of “You’re So Vain”. If she does not stop drinking, her tummy will be back. Then, you can start humming “You’ve God a Friend”.

            Drinking glass #1, of wine.

            • Detroitrockcity
              August 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM

              Your in my head!! 😉

          • Bree
            August 12, 2013 at 8:25 PM

            She posted pics on Twitter…it looks really good.

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM

      That image is still burning little holes through my retinas.

  51. August 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Hey! If Bravo is going to pay for half of a tummy tuck they are going to show you the whole thing, baby.

  52. August 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Melissa gorga lied about her nose job on WWHL and said it was makeup contouring.. Can someone please tweet andy a side by side before and after pic? Lol seriously…

  53. black enga
    August 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Teresa if you ever read this blog. I have been where you are, when the whole world seems to have turned against. But when family does it, there is no worst pain. I am a Pastry Chef by trade, I lost everything, so I pulled my self up by the bootstraps and started hustling cakes, pies, cookies, whatever to make ends meet. By the way I think we all know who can cook and who cant, and I saw you working that robot coupe girl,lol.

    If you lose everything, so what. You my dear are a hustler and you will be okay because that is one thing they cant take away.

    Look at Kathy, her dumb husband rented her a commercial kitchen and she doesn’t want it, what a dumb Bitch. I would love to have one. You can lead a horse……….

    I heard you want to open a cupcake shop, I say go for it, and if you are ever looking for a Pastry Chef, Hint, Hint,lol. It will be perfect for your family, I could see the girls now covered in flour. Having something that is family owned and operated is a beautiful thing and can be passed on from generation to generation. That’s my dream and I am going to make it happen, hope you do too.

    Please don’t renew your contract with Bravo it is not worth it and you know what they say “All money ain’t good money”.

    Keep your head up, we are all praying for you and your family.

    • elemcee
      August 12, 2013 at 6:00 PM

      I get so angry with Tre’s castmates when they say she cannot actually cook! It is obvious to anyone who knows how to cook, that she is very comfortable in a kitchen (even on a tour bus/camper thingy).

      You keep your chin up too, Enga. We will all be praying for you and your family, also.

    • Jeannie5233
      August 12, 2013 at 6:13 PM

      May I be so bold as to say – I really like you!!! Your philosophy and outlook on life is exactly the same as mine! I wish you all the luck in the world that your business succeeds and that you find happiness in whatever that floats your boat. I admire this kind of determination and gumption – Bravo black enga!!! I am pulling for you!! 😀

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:33 PM

      I will hope and pray for your dream to come true. Great post.

      • August 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

        BLK ENGA BE ASSURED IF YOU WORK HARD N DETERMINED YOU WILL GO FAR ,GOD LOVES WORKERS AN YOU ARE IN GOOD CO HERE AS WE ARE A PRAYING FAME-BLY

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

      Oh my, your post brought tears to my eyes. I always cry when something touches my heart.

      Beautiful words.

      Continue keeping your head up high, we are all praying for you and yours. Prayers, (well wishes, good thoughts, etc.) are very, very powerful.

    • LifeIsGood
      August 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM

      Not a doubt in my mind that you will acheive your goals, Black Enga!

  54. queen-bee
    August 12, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    That WacJac is on something. Her mood swings and bizzare behavior, and her self involvement is so over the top. I have 3 girls all within 3.2 years of one another, and my middle one ha d sensory issues… overwhelmed was a natural state of life, but I was never … maybe she is projecting that sociopath crap on others because shes guilty.

  55. Tassie Devil
    August 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Teresa blog is up just read it, its short, as always written with love and kindness.

    No doubt T will get backlash over it been short, but I think T has a little more to worry about this week than a blog.

  56. JerseyStrong
    August 12, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    So I just tweeted jackass “that’s a mommy belly, are you ashamed of you bringing them into the world. Be happy for a healthy baby not your skin. battle scars #rhonj” and that skeevy b!)$@ blocked me. Maybe she is ashamed of her kids then, because she wouldn’t be so freaked out by skin from pregnancy. Ladies we get f’d in life with a messed up body by kids the end…. Learn to rock a one piece skank. And furthermore you are 40 bikinis are not normally worn, act your age you can ashley for tips seen as how you said she is more responsible.

  57. elle
    August 12, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    What gives? I was just over at Bravo blogs. It indicated TSIL had 127 comments…which suddenly dropped to 0.

    • August 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM

      It’s driving me nuts — you have to wait for all of them to load at a miniscule pace and then mark as read or you go through it the next time you go as well. It just started like that for me last week — PITA.

      • August 13, 2013 at 1:05 AM

        OMG … just went to read tonight and my previous likes aren’t liked and it’s all out of order — UGH.

  58. black enga
    August 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    I just wanted to thank you all for your prayers and well wishes It means so much to me, I am overwhelmed with emotion.

    My grand daughters name is Virtue Le Ann, she was born May 18th (Teresa’s birthday). I know she was dead at birth I fell to my knees to pray and ask God to let her live. The nurse shouting code blue, 1 minute 14 seconds to life will forever be etched in my memory. She had shoulder dystocia and was not breathing, she had brain swelling and seizures day 2, she was not expected to live, swallow, move or breathe on her own but she did, she developed PPHN, she survived that also. They told us with her brain damage she will be a special need child the rest of her life, I am not accepting that. She is a fighter and a survivor and I will accept that.

    With all the prayers I have received today I know she will be okay and so will I. Thank you guys again. This has always been my favorite site since I happened upon it two seasons ago when I first fell in love with Teresa Giudice. She is a fighter and a survivor too. I had another favorite site that I loved but I damned near got kicked off for sticking up for people who were being mistreated for asking simple cake questions. I cant help myself, I hate bullies. You want a good laugh check it out my posts on cake central under my user name enga. I would love for some of you guys to tear them I new asshole, I cant because I get mad and swear to much,lol

    So Jacqueline, be thankful that your child is even alive, get on your knees and thank God for the lives that have given to you that you are responsible for because it can so easily be taken away from you. Get your ass off twitter and be thankful for what you have.

    Thanks again to my new found Famebly, God Bless you all.

    Teresa, keep on surviving, God Bless you and yours!

    • Bree
      August 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      Wow, that precious baby certainly IS a fighter. Sounds like if anyone can prove the doctors wrong, she will be the one to do it. Will keep you and your family in my thoughts!

      LOL, I swear a lot too…!

    • August 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM

      Your story of Virtue’s birth and amazing progress brought me to tears. Please keep us posted on Virtue’s progress and know that you have a Fame-bily prayer chain going. Is Virtue still in the hospital? Is she breathing on her own? Is she eating on her own? I couldn’t tell from your post (yes I’m nosey — out of love an concern).

      • black enga
        August 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

        Thank so much for concern. She left the hospital 28 days of hell later. After the first 2 weeks the found a whole in the back of her head. An abscess had ruptured that no one knew was there. We didn’t know because we were not allowed to hold her. We were so glad to get her the hell out of there and yes we are suing! All this could have been avoided by giving her a c section at the first signs of distress. I’m blessed that she is still alive and thriving. She will be 3 months and weighs almost 15 #s, loves her some breastmilk,lol.

        • August 13, 2013 at 4:25 AM

          I wish you and your family all the very best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m a lapsed Catholic but I keep so many here in my thoughts and heart! Please keep us posted as to how young Virtue is growing.

    • elemcee
      August 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

      Oh Enga, when my Junior was born, there was something wrong with his heart, and I had to have C-sections for both children (never was even a little sick during gestation, but could not deliver either child), and they pulled him out and said here is your beautiful son, there is something wrong with his heart and whisked him away. I can never express how awful that moment was. I had an asthma attack and died on the front porch (obviously they saved me) and that was not as bad as the moment they pulled my baby out and took him away. I am so sorry your grandbaby is struggling, but God obviously has bigger plans for her, just like he did Junior (he is leaving for college in 16 days, not that I am counting, sniff). You hold onto your faith. We will be here holding on with you.

      • black enga
        August 13, 2013 at 12:03 AM

        So glad your son pulled through and you too. 🙂 give him a big
        ((((hug )))) for me, your lives are true miracles. God bless you and your family. Every time a baby is born healthy it is truly a blessing that so many people take for granted.

        • elemcee
          August 13, 2013 at 12:30 AM

          He is good, Enga. Played hockey for 15 years and has been great. I read your response to Jules above. I am speechless. How could Sweet Virtue have an abscess and no one noticed! I am just speechless. I am so glad she is home where people care about her. I will give Junior and hug and you give Sweet Virtue a hug from me. What a miracle! I hope she thrives like my children have.

    • Marty
      August 13, 2013 at 8:42 AM

      Dear black eng,

      Virtue is a fighter and with a loving family as yours she is very lucky. I know this because I work nights in the NICU I attend high risk deliveries and all C-sections performed in my hospital. But I must tell you that there’s is something that I have learned from the countless deliveries that I have attended. Pregnancy and delivering a healthy normal baby is truly a blessing. When my team and I are called to delivery I alway pray for Mom and baby to be fine for I cannot predict complications arising. They come with no warning sometimes. I know firsthand Virtue’s will. I am in a Level 2+ facility PPHN is the highest level of care we give for a term baby that overcomes PPHN ( lots of machines) before they are transfered to a Level 3. PPHN is a very serious life threatening acute condition. I pray all the best for her for her road is blessed with a loving family. You could not be more right about Jackaloon! Her son has a big chance to thrive really really well. Unfortunately Jackaloon does not understand that.
      Stay strong… Virtue is!

      • black enga
        August 13, 2013 at 7:20 PM

        Thank you Marty, I wish you could have been her nurse. I am not saying that there are not caring people in NICU, they just treated us like this was our fault. They tried to say it happened while she was pregnant. The baby could have cerebral palsy or bronchial palsy, They never would give us a diagnosis even when she was discharged. We both know those are birth injuries. They are just playing the blame game. Things happened in labor and delivery and in the NICU that were negligent.

        She is breathing, eating, even though they said she would have to be tube fed the rest of her life because the brain damage affected the part of her brain that helps her to swallow, all on her own.

        They even tried to blame my daughter for not noticing the abscess on the back of her her when she was finally permitted to bathe her, can you believe that shit? We came the next day and the baby had a gaping hole in the back of her head, I almost fainted. It had to be debried by a plastic surgeon who told us it was an old wound (2 weeks old) and he had to cut out the necrotic tissue because it had started trying to heal on its own so that it could heal fresh. All this happened 5 days before her discharge.

        After the surgery they took her off the feeding tube, it was so beautiful to see her face without all of the monitors and tubes we all broke down crying. They gave us a chance to try and bottle feed her before putting it back in, she hadn’t ate in 24 hour, so she was hungry she drank 6 whole ounces.

        We were so happy, the Dr. said he would slowly take her off the I.V. nourishment until she could just feed with a bottle. The nurse got angry and said she was putting her back on the feeding tube, that it was basically at their discretion whether or not to put the feeding tube back in. That is when I snapped and told her what the Dr. just told us and where she could stick that feeding tube. If I was not a Christian, she would have had her ass handed to her right then and there,lol

        As soon as she started drinking breast milk, that I had to fight for them to give to her from day one, she progressed and thrived.

        It was a nightmare but we survived it through the grace of God.

        Thank you again for your prayers, God Bless You!

        • Scranton Sally
          August 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM

          Enga,
          I watched Sunday’s episode and was so pissed at Jac’s justifying her selfish actions. And just now I read your posts concerning your daughter and granddaughters heartbreaking story – it hit home hard then the tears.
          I had a similar delivery 28 years ago with the “birth’ of our first child. She fell into a coma, began seizing due to a brain bleed and spent almost 3 months in the NICU. It was like living in a fog, praying and after the diagnosis of Cerebral palsy, epilepsy, blindness and living her life in a wheelchair…I thought that God never heard nor answered my prayers. Years later, as I look back on the journey and its impact on her sister and brothers, I see that we were given an enormous gift – we were blessed to live with a beautiful soul who is without sin. My children are kind people who have never looked twice at someone who is less than perfect, they do not prejudge others and most importantly, they have truly learned the meaning of the term “unconditional love”.
          I continue to have dreams where my daughter is speaking to me, looking right at me…standing on her own. It always ends with me begging her to tell me if she is happy,because somehow, I know the dream is coming to an end..and before she can answer, I wake up in tears. As her mom, I will never stop praying for a miracle or cure but she is in God’s hands but my hands will always be holding her up- it’s my job- and I am NO different than millions of Moms who have a disabled child. I have met unbelievable women who work 16 hours a day with their kids- a few families have 2 sons with autism- who are super active and you would never know how hard they work- because they are their mothers–
          This leads to me to Jac…..I cannot believe the immature, self- centered manipulative woman she has become. (Aside from her twitter wars, blocking anyone who doesn’t kiss her butt, and her child-like behavior)…How can she go under anesthesia (after tequila shot(s?) the night before) and risk her life as Chris pointed out that some people don’t make it through surgery? How friggin’ selfish! She has a an austistic 3 year old who needs his mother. Is a flat stomach so important to her that she is willing to leave him for days – go under anesthesia just so she can “ride her husband”..(OK, I honestly dont know what that means, thought I did, but it didn’t make sense with her neck sagging…geez, Im happier not knowing!)
          I have been working with my daughter for 28 years, and have never left her for selfish reasons, and the past ten years since her health has declined a bit, Ive never left her period. I am not alone either- Im not the exception- jacaloon is the exception..funny, never thought of jac as exceptional! The woman should be working with Nick, 9 hours of therapy is over stimulation, and I hope she’s lying. She’s got waaay too much time on her hands! Im posting right now because its almost mid-night and Ive got time now–

          I’ll say my prayers for your girls, things are much different and better than they were 28 years ago- but the doctors haven’t change much, sadly. The doctors came in and said that I must have done something- they referenced the fact that on my initial doctors appointment I told the doctor that before I knew I was pregnant I drank “TAB” diet soda. —I have not heard that TAB causes fractured skulls at birth..forceps do- her bleed was at the brain stem and I was told that she’d never swallow, and they had a tube down her nose- I did the same thing- I bottle fed her against their wishes and she drank 2 bottles– don’t listen to anyone- don’t limit her in any way- treat her like a “normal” girl-(BTW- theres no such thing as normal!- I meant that as a dig to the doctors that referred to her as…damaged, and abnormal.) princes those doctors!

          God Bless, sorry so long….give her a kiss from me!

          • black enga
            August 14, 2013 at 8:00 PM

            Oh my goodness, don’t apologize for anything, your story has truly touched my heart! I pray for you and your family too. Sending (((((((((BIG HUGS)))))))))))) to you and your daughter.
            XOXOXOXOXO and many hugs and kisses!!!.

            She is so blessed to have you as a mother, God Bless you for being so dedicated and loving!

            I wish you and your family much love and may God bless you to have that dream of your daughter standing come true.

            I will make sure I a big kiss my daughter and grand daughter for you.

            Thank you Scranton Sally!

  59. Isolde
    August 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Enga: I would like to add a welcome to you and have enjoyed and been touched by your posts, and will be praying for you and your family. I am of the philosophy that if someone asks how are you, I say fine, thank you, because does complaining change or help anything? No it doesn’t, and unfortunately there are always so many more people who have troubles much greater than mine. There are always going to be people who need to be a victim, and play the part well. However, there are always people who have really huge problems to deal with, and they don’t say a word, and you would never know that something is wrong. I think we all feel that Jac has made her situation much more tragic, then it really is, and with all the help she has, it isn’t the hardship on her as much as she would have everyone believe.

    I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers, and I love your positive attitude. Stay strong and keep being positive…”God helps those who help themselves”. I wish you and your family nothing but the very best. I am glad you found your way to our Famebly. God bless you and your family.

    • black enga
      August 13, 2013 at 12:15 AM

      Thank for your kind words and prayers, God bless you and your family too. We all know Jacqueline has some serious issues, I pray that she can over come them. I wish her no ill, I just hope she realizes her blessing before it is to late.

      • KelliAnna12
        August 13, 2013 at 1:41 AM

        She won’t!!! But, it’s nice to wish her well.

        • black enga
          August 13, 2013 at 7:22 PM

          Lol

  60. August 13, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    Is it just me or do other families actually have special days with aunt/uncle and niece/nephew? I wanted to spend time with my cousins and get the heck away from the adults. My daughter who is 22 and her cousins were the same way. It was always an aunt/uncle or both with them at the movies etc., but the key was it was about the cousins being together.

    I loved the scene with Gia and Joe as Gia was so right on in her comments. It just didn’t feel natural to me the whole we need our alone time and Tre can have her alone time with Anotnia (Messy’s blog).

    • August 13, 2013 at 6:13 AM

      Agree, Gia is older and Joe doesn’t have a child her age so the alone time was nice, but Teresa is supposed to have alone time with Antonia? I can hear the wailing now by Milania, “I want to go too”. It was a stupid comment and dig on Melissa’s part.

      • August 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM

        I really doubt Tsil would even let her kids be alone with Tre! Really, if I were Tre and had Tsil as my SIL I wouldn’t want to be alone with her kids! Tsil seems so sneaky and mean that she seems to be the type to concoct a story like “When Gino got home he said Auntie Teresa hit him!” something illegal and evil like that! I have no trust in that little shore whore skank!

        • black enga
          August 13, 2013 at 7:36 PM

          I want all of you to think back to the pool party when TB and Teresa were talking about the rumors and called her a Bitch. Melissa was holding Audrianna, she looked at the tag on the baby’s hat and pulled so hard down on her head, I wanted to jump through the screen and slap her. Audrianna was crying and she was walking around the pool holding her for camera time, like she was saying, look at me I’m such a good aunt aren’t I. I really think the Bitch pinched her or something. That baby knew she was evil. She is even jealous of the clothes Teresa buys her kids for Gods sake!

          If I was Teresa I wouldn’t let that witch anywhere near my children. Case in point, Teresa and Gia shopping when Melissa calls to arrange a play date for Antonia and Milania. What did Gia say, Dont leave Malania alone with her or something like that. During the play date she kept bothering Malania, but that is one smart kid because she let her know to back off,lol.

          Like I said before, pure evil.

          • August 13, 2013 at 10:41 PM

            Enga, I’ve never watched that episode! Maybe another RHONJ marathon will run on Bravo. I guess I could go watch the video’s on Bravo and see if I can see Tsil pretend to be a good Auntie?

            Tsil comes across as such a witch that she seems the type of Auntie to sit back and judge Tre’s girls and then talk crap about them! Oh, wait, my bad, she does do that except she blogs about them! Enga, IDK if you know this but it has come to the famewhorgas commenter’s attention that Tsil does read this blog! Oh, and she reads the comments to Tb, too, I guess he has a literacy problem? I wouldn’t trust Tsil with any kids. She seems the type to tell a child whose crying to shut up and not comfort them if she thinks no one is watching! I bet Tb has seen her do many questionable things as a mother! I come from a dysfuctional family and my mother was abusive, both verbally and physically. So, I can see the signs of an abused child. It’s sad because they usually are the well behaved, quiet children. I’m not saying Tsil beats her kids because that Gino is pretty bold, but Antonia, IDK, she seems sad at times. I could be wrong, though, because there was a commenter who said they knew Tsil. The commenter was telling us that Tsil favor’s Antonia and Joey, but not Gino, the Gorga of the bunch! Maybe Gino acting up for the camera’s is his way of getting back on his mean momma! I don’t think Tsil is “kid” person! I’m going to go search for that episode on Bravo right now!

            P/S- I did read your posts regarding your granddaughter, and my heart goes out to you! I’ll continue to pray for your family, and you, please keep me updated on her health condition. 12 years ago I gave birth to a stillborn son so I know how it is to remember everything when a trauma occurs. I caught a virus, called cytomegolovirus, (CMV), it can render a baby blind with neurological problems if they survive the virus in-utero. Well, I’m typing/talking too much but I’m sending you my love!

            • black enga
              August 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM

              No you are not, I’m so sorry for your pain and the loss of your beloved son. Thank you so much for your prayers, God Bless You!!! You guys have had me crying for 3 days,lol. But they are good tears because I have gotten so much love from this sight.

              Virtue is doing okay, we have been taking one day at a time. She is becoming stronger and not so stiff with the occupational therapy, she is also swallowing better and does not need to have milk thickened anymore. We have another MRI and swallow study coming up.

              We are so blessed to still have her.

              Thank you so much for caring and sending your love because it is truly felt and I want too send you mine also, ((((((((((<3))))))))))!!!

  61. KelliAnna12
    August 13, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Hmmmm. Ok, let me just say that no, Melissa, Joe is not a good uncle! A GOOD uncle doesn’t stay away from his niece and/or God daughter because he’s mad at his sister! Furthermore, a GOOD uncle doesn’t allow cameras to film his first interaction in years! DumbA$$!

    • Jeannie5233
      August 13, 2013 at 9:02 AM

      Hello KelliAnna!!

      I absolutely agree with your comment – there was no reason TB couldn’t reach out to Gia directly all these years. And Teresa would never have stopped them from getting together.

  62. August 13, 2013 at 3:06 AM

    hey guys,how are u today? have u read melissas blog?i was like wtf.unfortunately i cant watch after shows live,cuz im from another country,but at least i can read blogs.at the end i wished i couldnt lol

    its was so filled up with lies that i had to comment, also to thouse ppl defending meho at any cost. i dont get it, how can they not see and hear the lies she is saying,the inconsistencies she has in her stories.

    just dont get it.

    • tboz17586
      August 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM

      It HAS to be blind hatred for Teresa and disregard for anything else. There’s no way these people are seriously defending TSIL……for any other reason. Either that or they’re stupid an cut from the same cloth and find it acceptable to behave that way.

      • August 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM

        i totally agree with you, just really dont get this people, on what ground can u defend someone that u can see and hear lying?i dont get it. i have never been fan of tre but i can see that they were bulling her, i also see the way melissa behaves.

        it just hit me, do u remember when she just started? she was saying this thank u jeasus probably 10 times per episode? and now she stopped if it was really her habbit how could she get rid of it so fast?

        • tboz17586
          August 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

          I reckon the only reason Our Lord and Saviour got a mention is because His precious name can sell a t-shirt for her! Incredibly sad, but hey! That’s TSIL…..

          • August 13, 2013 at 12:53 PM

            yeah but those are the thing some ppl cant see and i dont understand how.as ive said before im not a fan of anyone, but i see tre being ganged up and see her being accused of something that i dont think she had anything to do so yes i do take her side. any normal decent person would do the same, especially that other side is just lying all the time. u just need to listen and bam there it is another lie.

            but i guess some people cant really put 2 and 2 together.

  63. August 13, 2013 at 4:20 AM

    So I guess they wont be moving house then….

  64. tboz17586
    August 13, 2013 at 7:02 AM

    Anyone else catch the little snippet of TSIL on WWHL? The part about having Teresa’s back? I must say….I heard once when I was little that people can tell you are lying through your teeth because you’ll look to the side, or look to the sky. TSIL’s eyes didn’t know where they were going….she’s disgusting! There was nothing sincere about that whatsoever. URGHHHHHH!

  65. August 13, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    has anyone notice how meho stopped saying than u jeasus? 😀 lol if she was so real and it was her real habit and not act how could she stop so fast when before she was saying it like at least 10 time per episode?

  66. August 13, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Can we talk about how fake Ashley/Ashlee Holmes is!? Everything in the last episode was a contridiction.

    She says she’s afraid of Jac having plastic surgery when she herself has clearly had her nose and lips done. More proof here http://www.realitytea.com/2010/07/26/photos-nj-housewives-ashley-holmes-got-a-nose-job/

    She says she doesn’t drink that much now that she’s 22 but tweeted a naked pic of herself on Instagram and blamed it on Tequila.

    Is she sipping TSIL’s kool aid????

  67. Jeannie5233
    August 13, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Black Enga –

    I was not here very much yesterday, so I would now like to take this time to express my deepest respect for you and your family. Your granddaughter is so lucky to have been born to you – there surely is a reason why. As my mom has said to me so many times when life would become diffficult – “God writes with a crooked pen at times. We may never understand the reasoning but it is all in His hands.”

    VIRTUE – The seven virtues are: Humility, Chastity, Temperance, Charity, Dilligence, Patience, and Kindness.

    Virtue is a wonderful name for your granddaughter. May she aways encompass its true meaning. I can tell she is well on her way and will continue to be with the guidance and help she will receive from you – her grandmother.

    May Virtue’s struggles be with as little difficulty as possible and may she grow to her fullest potential. As you can see, there are many wonderful people here who will pray for this and I am amongst them. And for those who do not, they will be sending all the positive energy, thoughts, and best wishes your way that Virtue will blossom. Trust me when I say, these prayers, wishes, and energy will fill your soul and help you through even the darkest of days. They certainly have helped me.

    As you are very much needed, please take care of yourself as well.

    • black enga
      August 13, 2013 at 6:50 PM

      Thank you so much for your touching words, prayers, an inspirations, God Bless you!

  68. August 13, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    That dumb TSIL says TB let gia express her feelings and he just bit his tongue. If that is biting his tongue I wonder what having a loose tongue is?

    • August 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM

      I haven’t read Tsil’s blog but she needs to stop speaking for Tb! The guy gets his own TH for crying out loud! I really doubt Tb said, while watching the scene with him and Gia, “I jus’ let Gia express her feelings and I just bit my tongue. Tell our fans that in youse blog, ok baby?”.

      • kayswhims
        August 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM

        Bingo

  69. August 13, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    I think the having one on one time with Gia has to do with him being her godfather than her uncle but at the same time I honestly don’t think it is necessary for it only being him with her. I know that TSIL came along later but as his wife you would assume she would consider her (Gia) as her godchild as well. But we are talking about TSIL and anyother person would see their spouses godchild as theirs but not her. She sees Gia as competition.

    • kayswhims
      August 13, 2013 at 4:32 PM

      A destructive narcissist needs to take everything away from the person they feel threatened by. TSIL needed to be on the housewives show. She needed Teresa off the show. She needed to gain Teresa’s friends while destroying the relationship they had with Teresa.

      She needs to gain favor with Gia and attempt to destroy her relationship with her mother. She can not be happy until she takes over and destroys everything Teresa has. TB would not have spent time with Gia if he did not get a suggestion from his wife.

      They are saying all the key words. Step up and take care of the children when Teresa goes to jail. If that ever happens, I doubt Gia and the girls will be placed in their care. TB is already in hot water with assault charges. TSIL can have her narcissistic never fail dreams, but the reality is she underestimates her victims and reactions of others.

      Unexpected twist and turns happen that are game changers. Her victims are not contained in a small environment with limited outside influence, therefore she will lose control of the situation time and time again. Gia shook her head no when her uncle tried to sway her mind about her mother, TSIL will have to find another way.

  70. kayswhims
    August 13, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    TSIL thanked Jesus in her book and mentioned that she talks to Him everyday. Perhaps my past experience is bluring my judgement, but I know that you can not spend that much time talking to God and have so much wickedness going on inside you and around you.

    What I mean is look at Bryan. He has grown and is continuing to grow in Christ. You will know by their fruit. He has many things on his mind and he is fighting for his life. I would say Bryan gets real with Jesus. Of all my struggles in life, family issues, health issues, loved ones lost to suicide, car accidents, etc. I got real with God and I thank Him for it all. I do not think I would have the relationship I have with Him or others, if I had not gone threw all those trials and tribulations.

    No matter what you are going through, God is willing and able to carry you through it. Your faith can be tested time and time again. What God has started in you, He will finish. He will not forsake you even if your own mother and father forsake you. I remember when I was afraid to read the book of Job but I am so glad that I did.

    There are things I can not understand and that is okay. I know many lies that I once embraced are gone. When my first husband died, it took the wind out of my sails and I was adrift at sea not knowing which way to go. Part of me could not shake the voice from my past that said God would get me for what I did to her. It was enough to drift away from God. My son was so angry at seven years old and my daughter, who was Daddy’s little girl was so broken. My little world had fallen apart, just like she predicted.

    I had a great deal of anger in me. When you grow up and you think you don’t really matter or your feelings don’t count, it is hard to believe that you mean a great deal to God. Things started to change when I unleashed my anger. My son told me it is okay to be angry with God, He can take it, ya know. lol He always has gems like that for me. I remember once when he was young and he said you know why God waited so long to make Eve? Because he wanted Adam to realize he needed her first. From a child, I learned a thing or to about why God makes people wait for things.

    Everyone has issues and I hope TSIL is really talking to Jesus everyday. There are people all over the world that pretend for reasons that benefit their goals. Some use it to hide behind while doing wicked things to children and others. Some use it for votes and status. Some use it to scam people. The day will come when being Christian is the last thing anyone wants to admit they are. Those days are the days you will see who is really talking to Jesus.

    • black enga
      August 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM

      Kayswhims Amen when Teresa said I’m not moher Teresa I don’t say thank you Jesus I damn near pissed my pants! Sometimes God works in mysterious ways and when his word come through the mouths of children it is so profound.

      • kayswhims
        August 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM

        Ya, sometimes Teresa gets her point across with ease and that was one of those moments. I always enjoy listening to what children think about the world. God finds a way to get our attention that is for sure…lol

        • black enga
          August 13, 2013 at 7:53 PM

          I just wish she would do it more. I think she is so hurt sometimes by what they say that she is at a loss for words.

          As for the anger thing, I’m still a work in progress. If if weren’t for my kids I don’t even think I would be here. Some times it takes that little voice to still us and make us remember what is most important.

          God bless you and your children, you have been through so much and I’m so sorry that you and your children had to endure such pain and loss, I wish you and your family much love and happiness!!!

          I wanted to say more earlier but my crappy phones auto spell makes leaving a post darn near impossible,lol.

    • elemcee
      August 13, 2013 at 1:25 PM

      Kay, your children sound brilliant! Like you. That is a very good post.

      • kayswhims
        August 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM

        Awe thank you. My children are very observant. They are bold when they express their thoughts. It was their perspective of what was going on with my family relationships, that made me step back and test things. I am glad. I ended up seeking therapy and setting boundaries. God is good.

    • August 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM

      Love your post.

      I feel close to my father in heaven and it has been my experience that my relationship with my God and Jesus (as I respect all beliefs and believe that anything done for the greater good, pleases the Divine Creator, i.e. Budda, Jehovah, Mother Nature, any religion or belief, etc.) has softened my heart. I ask my God and his son, to let me find the “good” in everyone I meet and ask for his will to be done in my life.

      In my opinion, I do not believe TSIL speaks to Jesus. I will not judge, that is not my job. It is just that her heart seems to be so cold.

      I am sorry for you loss kay. I from old Cajuns, when someone died unexpectedly, the family would proclaim that we had another voice in heaven, to help us.

    • August 13, 2013 at 11:26 PM

      OH, Kayswhims, thank-you for such a thought provoking, heart tucking post! You are so true about what you wrote! You sound like you have a son who is wise beyond his years!

      • August 13, 2013 at 11:26 PM

        “hearting tugging post”!

  71. Saddle_River_NJ
    August 13, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    I did a bit of ocr and cut and paste to get this mess together:

    Melissa said “I put myself through college with the help of my godfather and worked three jobs doing it. I was substitute teaching, working in a tanning salon, and bar tending one night a week.” [Melissa Gorga, Like a Prayer, April 30, 2012]

    I her book Melissa states: “I was living with two roommates at the time in an apartment in Bayonne, New Jersey. My godfather Johnny was helping out with my college tuition, but I was paying for everything else, including the rent, toilet paper, food, hair products, car insurance. I had this cute four-door white Mercedes that needed a lot of care and worked three bartending jobs to cover my bills, as well as student teaching and substitute teaching.”

    On April 12, 2012, Melissa was interviewed by one of her favorite blogs, Reality Tea. She said Joe Gorga used to come see her when she was a bartender at Lookers Gentleman’s Club while in college.

    Joe states: ” My attorney, architect, and I went out to celebrate at Joey’s in Clifton. I
    walked right up to the bar. Melissa was standing behind it.” (this is winter of 2000)

    In season 4 episode 20, filmed on September 27, 2011, she said on camera that she worked at Lookers less than a week, and hated it.

    Melissa said: “Originally we saw each other on Spring Break in Cancun, we were so young! I was there for my 21st birthday (March 2000) and he was 25 and everyone from New York and New Jersey would always go to Cancun for Spring Break.”

    Joe says in Melissa’s book: “Back in 2000, I went to Cancun for a spring break vacation with a bunch of my friends. At twenty-six, I was a little old for spring break…”

    According to Joe’s timeline he mentions in the book – he see’s Melissa “at Joey’s” in the winter of 2000 and gets her to agree to a first date a few weeks later.

    Melissa said: “It was instant, we were engaged six months after we met and we were married four months later, so within a year we were married.”

    Melissa said: “From engagement to wedding in five months? Oh, why not? It was five months between our first date and engagement. We might as well make it a tradition. So, there is was. The date was set for August 20, 2004.”

    “da bitch and “da bum have serious math problems. Also – who was the guy she was dating in 2003 (the pic from the club in Sayreville)? They both are adamant about the 2000 thing how many men *was* The Little Tramp dating between 2000 and 2004? Where does Bulldog fit in this little timeline?

    • Debbie J
      August 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      Saddle – Thanks for doing the work on the cut and paste. It baffles the imagination that TSIL thinks we are so stupid not to put 2 and 2 together. And if TB is so stupid to believe what comes out of his wife’s mouth they deserve each other.

    • August 13, 2013 at 1:59 PM

      Joe’s story of when they met – during Spring Break in Cancun March 2003 (and the same time MTV was taping ‘The Real Cancun’) when Melissa was 24; Melissa stated it was when she was 21, but she’s obviously lying.

      Season 3 episode 6 – Teresa explained:

      Melissa started dating Joe in October 2003, she moved in with him in December 2003, and she married Joe in August 2004.

      Timeline:

      She moved to Florida with her mother and had a lesbian relationship as a 16-year-old in 1995, she was arrested for ‘retail theft’ at age 18 in Florida in 1997, she graduated from Boca Raton High School in 1998, she moved back to New Jersey sometime after 1998.

      So in her book she is claiming she met Joe in 2000, but, from what I gather, she was dating Bulldog during the two years prior to meeting Joe, which was actually March 2003. From 1999 until January 2004, she was a college student (she graduated from New Jersey City University in January 2004). It seems like she was still living with Bryan and didn’t start dating Joe until 7 months after first meeting him – according to Byran’s tweets, she told Bryan she was going to marry the millionaire if he didn’t stop seeing other woman.

      Read more here:

      https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/10/12/who-is-the-mystery-man-with-melissa-marco-in-april-2003-a-month-after-she-first-met-joe-gorga/

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        August 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM

        I have an easier time understanding black holes (no relation to TSIL!), gravity and an ever-expanding universe than I do our “Valley of the Gorga’s” author’s timeline…

        • kayswhims
          August 13, 2013 at 3:07 PM

          LMAO!

        • August 13, 2013 at 10:52 PM

          Saddle River, LOL!!!! Ok, I love reading your posts but for this topic you are especially hysterical!!!

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        August 13, 2013 at 2:52 PM

        Now that I think about it – the timeline makes perfect sense. She was living with/dating Bryan around 2000(?). While still in a relationship with him, she starts seeing “the millionaire” Gorga who claims in print to have met her in 2000. So now she is seeing both men and trying to figure which would give her the biggest payoff. There must have been other men in the same time period – look at the Sayreville pic. So between 2002 and 2003 she was involved with at least 3 men. She gets pissed with Bryan over him seeing other women and then decides to “marry the millionaire” if he doesn’t stop. I’m sure Joe had a clue what was going on, so they concoct the “2003” bit to clear out the other men from her timeline. I’ll bet it took a long time before TB worked up enough courage to introduce Our Little Harlot to the family. He was probably “with” her between 2000 and 2003 but only introduced her to the family at the later date…

        • kayswhims
          August 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM

          TB said he was faithful to his highschool girlfriend for 10 years. He was 20 when he was engaged to her. Perhaps he left out details about the second woman he was engaged to because it conflicts with TSIL’s timeline.

        • August 13, 2013 at 5:14 PM

          She didn’t meet Joe Gorga until 2003 – she’s backdating it to 2000 so she doesn’t have to address what she was doing from 1999 – 2003, the years she was partying with Tommy the Greek and others, followed by the years she was living with Bryan. She met Joe Gorga the year she was working at Lookers, which was 2003.

          Just look at the photos from NJGuido.com: they are her partying with her friends, including Jan Marie DeDolce, in 2003.

          https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/?s=njguido.com

    • August 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

      Thank for posting this. This is exactly what I meant when I said my head was spinning after I read just several paragraphs. I love to read and usually what I read “flows”, I do not have to stop, think, go back, stop and think again.

      I once thought she was trying to play on the viewers being stupid, now I am certain she is the stupid one.

  72. plittlething@yahoo.com
    August 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    She names one of her chapters “how to be a putana” i am sorry but that is nothing to be proud of and that word in Italian is way worse sounding than in English. No respected Italian female would want that title. Melissa you are not Italian.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      August 13, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      I think the use of “putana” or “puta” in the context of that book is disgusting. Why not just literally translate call the chapter “How to be a filthy slut”. Italian or Spanish it ‘aint a nice word. And this is the book she is going to give to her daughter?!? She is just a vile back alley whore tries to pass herself as “classy”. Just disgusting….

    • August 13, 2013 at 10:58 PM

      I have a 9 y.o. daughter and I couldn’t imagine giving her a book detailing my adventure’s on being a “Putana”! Not that I was ever a “Putana” and if I was I wouldn’t want my child to know! Come to think of it, if my mother was a “Putana” I would probably burn the book before reading it! Ewwwww……! Show’s you the class Tsil has! Way to raise a respectable daughter, Donna Marco, *clap clap*! You should be so proud!

  73. Jeannie5233
    August 13, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Sure would be interested in seeing how those pre-sales are going, considering the publisher has released the first two chapters of TSIL’s book. Now, I’ve seen the release of excerpts, but not two chapters. Perhaps the publisher is getting a bit nervous about sales (or lack thereof) and is trying to give this soon to be round filed,classic trash novel some “exposure”.

  74. elemcee
    August 13, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    I like how in the book excerpt, TSIL tries to explain the whip-its as “we buy a whole bunch of whipped cream for a whipped cream fight”. They sure do read the blogs.

    • August 13, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      Oh yeah that’s what most adults want to do have whipped cream fights — not. TSIL is the queen of lies, backpedaling and deflecting.

  75. August 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Did anyone watch Wendy Williams today? Rumor has it Tre was on promoting Fabilicious on the Grill.

    • Debbie J
      August 13, 2013 at 5:25 PM

      It’s a re-run from a few months ago when Wendy told Teresa that she was her favorite housewife.

  76. AnnieMarie
    August 13, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Fame, I think you wrote an article about Tre wishing Antonia a happy birthday on twitter last year MeGo tweeted a snarky reply of calling instead of tweeting. I tried looking for it, but I can’t find it. I know someone said Tre did call and left a message before resorting to twitter. I only ask because I saw someone on twitter today didn’t see the third party’s tweet about Tre leaving a message. I would like to educate them. 🙂

  77. Elle
    August 13, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    I thought that it was interesting how well Ashley has been doing (and looking) away from Wacky Jacky. Doesn’t say much for you as a mother if your daughter straightens up her act away from you. I bet she was just as obssessive over Ashley’s looks as she seems to be over her own looks. Probably driving Ashley insane so she rebelled and dyed her hair and got tattoos just to piss Wacky Jacky off. All these walking mannequins will find out one day that nature eventually takes it course, as it should. And with all this plastic surgery, they will end up making a fool of themselves at 90 trying to look 30.

  78. August 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Back to the time line fiasco, Joe was engaged for 10 years from the age of 20. That would make him 30 years old when they broke up, Melissa said they met when he was 25. I believe it was closer to 28. The lies keep piling up, no wonder they can’t keep their stories straight. It makes you wonder how and when did they meet.

  79. lilliaG
    August 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Interesting how Mel threw shade at Gia about wearing makeup?? Ahem: As someone who used to do makeup, for plays, weddings, and such, I have a few things to say.

    Are you listening Melissa??

    I think at 12, Gia is of an age to begin learning how to use cosmetics. What what I’ve seen, Gia is really only using lip balms, lip glosses, once a red lipstick. In the above pic, she is trying on some eye liner. At 12, Gia is not always going to get it right. It’s part of the whole learning process. Bottom line, she’s at an appropriate age to begin learning about cosmetics.

    Now regarding YOUR daughter, Antonia. Sigh. In the pic above, Antonia is wearing full face makeup. I’ll begin with what I’m seeing, with a trained eye.

    Antonia is wearing full coverage face foundation, which is several shades too light for her natural skin tone, and really screams ‘makeup.’ Brow powder has clearly been applied to her brows; the brows have been shaped and then combed and possibly gelled into place. She is wearing concealer, a very light base shade on the entire eye area, then heavy highlighting powder on the brow bone. Antonia is wearing a very dark taupe, or possible slate colored eyeshadow in the the hollow between the eye lid and brow bone, and she is wearing a lot of shadow there. Many people put thick amounts in that hollow thinking it disguises the fact that they are overdoing the shadow. It doesn’t work and actually casts shadows in the under eye area like Antonia has in this picture. Antonia is wearing eyeliner and what appears to be a good deal of mascara. Her cheekbones have a significant amount of highlighting powder; her nose is simply caked with highlighting powder. Antonia is wearing several layers of blush on her cheeks, and I can tell just by looking exactly shade shade she’s wearing. This shade is unique in color and the way the light catches it. Antonia is wearing far too much blush. Few woman would wear this look in daytime, let alone a little girl sporting this much makeup! Antonia is wearing a thick full coverage lipstick in a fuchsia shade. It’s very thick and not at all a subtle shade. Finally, Antonia’s made up face has been set with what seems to be a heavy sweeping of setting powder. It also seems apparent by Antonia’s demeanor that she is accustomed to being made up like this; she certainly seems familiar with all this.

    Which brings me to the obvious question: Why IS such a young girl made up this way?? IS Melissa trying to compete with Gia?? If so, epic fail, as Gia is years older than Antonia and naturally is at an entirely different stage in growing up than is Antonia.

    Is Melissa SO obsessed and jealous of Tre and Gia that she is willing to force Antonia to be a Gia-mini, and in so doing, grow up far too soon? First we have the extremely inappropriate dancing of Antonia on Instagram, and now the makeup. Really it’s much worse than just copying Gia, because years ago we didn’t see Gia wearing makeup, nor dancing in a way that is so disturbing as Antonia has been taught.

    Seems that some of Jacqueline’s certifiable insanity is starting to rub off on her new BFF Melissa GOR-GAH. That’s GOR-GAH!!

    • August 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM

      lilliaG, thank you for pointing all of this out for us. Here’s the link and screen shot from the video of Antonia dancing:

      http://instagram.com/p/cHu_K6pCwl/

    • August 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM

      Why George Michael probably did her makeup.

  80. lilliaG
    August 13, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Fame, I just can’t believe what I’m seeing. I just can’t believe that Joey and Melissa are exploiting their child that way. This disturbing and disgusting video clip has been on Instagram for what–two weeks now? I’ve said it before, it looks like something in a predator’s stash when the police go through all the vile garbage an offender has collected.

    One thing comes to mind: JonBenet Ramsey. Who was just an innocent, taken away from this world by a still at large monster.

    I was never of the mindset of blaming the Ramseys, the way many people did. I certainly did not think they had harmed their child, even before a final DNA investigation proved once and for all they had nothing to do with the child’s murder.

    But what is still so sad and unfortunate is that JonBenet’s participation in pageantry is probably how the monster who killed her first took notice of her. And JonBenet certainly did not dance around the way we’ve seen Antonia.

    It’s all such a shame.

  81. black enga
    August 13, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    You know what, I think Melissa truly hates Teresa because unlike her, she was a virgin, she was raised by old school Italian parents where tradition is everything. Teresa whole world revolves around her husband and family. The epitome of a “Good Girl”, who was in all likelihood treated like a princess growing up.

    The more I hear excerpts from this so called book, its like she is delusional and trying to paint this picture of her life to Teresa’s. Too many discrepancies and lies, epic fail in my book.

  82. lilliaG
    August 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    You’re right, Enga!! Tre did things the right way; the old fashioned way. Mel had lived with other men, even had a lesbian fling. NOthing traditional and old-fashioned OR Italian about Mel Marco.

    Saddle_River_NJ says:
    August 13, 2013 at 5:09 PM
    I think the use of “putana” or “puta” in the context of that book is disgusting. Why not just literally translate call the chapter “How to be a filthy slut”. Italian or Spanish it ‘aint a nice word. And this is the book she is going to give to her daughter?!? She is just a vile back alley whore tries to pass herself as “classy”. Just disgusting….>>>>>>>>>>>

    I brought down this smart comment form SaddleRiverNJ. It WAS embarrassing for her to put that in the book. The reason she did it was she was trying to ref the ‘lady in the kitchen, whore in the bedroom,’ schtick. And she was trying to put an Italian spin on it. What she doesn’t understand, is that the idea ‘translates’ if you will, in an entirely different way in Italian. Which also PROVES that Melissa does NOT understand neither the language, NOR the culture. In addition neither does her mother! Would ANY old-fashioned true Italian mom allow her daughter to put that awful name in her book??Are these people even Italian?? Neither of Melissa’s parents appear to be Italian.

  83. black enga
    August 14, 2013 at 4:31 AM

    I think Teresa has only tried to be a good daughter, wife and mother.
    To her I say:
    Lasciar correre fuori schiena l’aqua.
    Wishing you and your family well in court today.
    XOXO!

    • black enga
      August 14, 2013 at 4:41 AM

      L’acqua. Hate my dumb phone, 🙂

  84. August 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    HAAS ANY ONE HEARD HOW THE ARRAINMENT WENT ?

  85. black enga
    August 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    I know they were both there and it only lasted 5 minutes. The trail is set to start October 8th, 2013. She has a book signing tonight at Kim D’s.

    I hope everything will be okay. 🙂

  86. GonadGobbler
    August 15, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    Okay, I hesitate to say this because it is a bit of a wild accusation. But does anyone else feel that Joe’s behavior towards Gia is a bit… off putting? Without going into too much detail, when I was a (female) kid, I had an older family member who would say somewhat sexual things to me as well as comment on my looks (especially as I was going through puberty and uh, blossoming, as it were) and I remember the damaging effect it had on me. I feel it is really strange/troublesome that he calls her “baby,” the way he looks her up and down, and the comment about “how’d you like lookin’ at my ass” and “you’ll like looking at it soon enough” (or some weird shit like that.) I can’t tell if it’s his weird tv persona or if he really is like that, because he seemed to calm it down in the one-on-one conversation, but his behavior towards her made me very uncomfortable and from her reactions she didn’t seem to think it was cute or funny.

  87. kayswhims
    August 15, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    I do not like many things about his interactions with family. He has no boundaries. It is no wonder he and Rich are good friends. Rich likes to cover his behavior with accidental touching, voyeurism etc. As Rosie out it, “cop a feel” which is defined as sexual touching without permission. He gets a pass for touching family but if he did that same thing to a stranger what would happen?

  88. Mar
    August 16, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Awe Jacqueline I love you and I’m happy you feel good about yourself I know the feeing I’m a mother of 4 2 full time step kids and 2 of my own my stepdaughter has CF and my eldest daughter has ADD and APD. I’m always so busy on top of all that my husband has an eye disease known as RP he can’t see at night or in dark places and I have wanted a tummy tuck since my youngest was born almost 6 years ago so I haven’t been able to wear a bikini since I was 23. I too suffer from anxiety from so much always going on so cuddos to you for getting your sexy back xoxo Marlene

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