Joe and Melissa Gorga Started to Build a Spec Home in Franklin Lakes on a Lot They Don’t Own
UPDATE APRIL 23, 2015: The lot on which Joe and Melissa Gorga planned to build their new home, but instead listed it for sale after pouring the foundation, was removed from the market in March 2015. The Gorgas resumed construction on the home without a buyer (spec home). Melissa tweeted that Joe is building the house to sell and that they plan to stay in their Montville home forever.
“My money is on the ‘dream house’ never being built and them unloading the land at a discounted price. They don’t have the money to build a spec house like that, and it would be dumb to finance such an endeavor. How about just being truthful for once. Just fess up. You got in over your head. You’re now focused on making smart financial decisions for your family. That I’d admire. The constant BS is ridiculous.” [swizzle, February 3, 2015, AllAboutTRH]
UPDATE DECEMBER 18, 2014: The Gorgas are not building a new home in Franklin Lakes. The lot at 101 Jasmine Ct., on which the Gorgas planned to build their new home, has been owned by ITL Realty, Inc. of Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey since 2011 or earlier. The lot was put back on the market for $1.2 million on November 11, 2014 (image above) and includes blueprints for the home the Gorgas planned to build (images below). Melissa said during reunion 6 that the foundation for the home had been laid (the listing for the lot also states that the foundation is completed), so that must be why the lot includes the blueprints.
ITL Reality, Inc. also has owned since 2011 or earlier the vacant lot across the street, 102 Jasmine Ct., which is not for sale. However, ‘for sale’ signs from Venture Realtors were on both lots when Google captured ‘street views’ in October 2013 (image below). The assessed value for each lot is $467,000.
ITL Realty, Inc., which was established in 1986, is headquartered at 100 Sylvan Avenue in Englewood Cliffs, which the company purchased on October 5, 2004 for $3,066,000.
Melissa wrote in her Bravo blog dated July 21, 2014, that they planned on moving back into their mansion in Montville once they successfully evicted the rent-to-own tenant, Kai Patterson.
“And yes, once everything has been sorted out, we plan to move back to Montville while Joe continues to build the house in Franklin Lakes. Why? Because it makes the most financial sense. There is no reason to continue to pay for a rental and leave that big house empty. At this point, we are still building the house in Franklin Lakes and will decide at a later date which house we’ll put on the market. It will all come down to what is best for our family, but I promise when I know, you’ll know! ”
Kai Patterson turned the house back over to the Gorgas on September 26, 2014, and the Gorgas moved back into the mansion shortly thereafter. Alex Glushanok, who would have been the Gorgas neighbor had they built the home on the lot at 101 Jasmine Court in Franklin Lakes, told RadarOnline on December 18, 2014 that the Gorgas introduced themselves to residents in the exclusive neighborhood and informed them that they’d be filming on the street, but in the last couple of weeks, construction had suddenly stopped. “We’re anticipating what is going to happen. We don’t want there to be disruption with trucks, traffic and cameras. But nobody asked our permission so there’s no point worrying about it now.”
UPDATE OCTOBER 2014: The season 6 RHONJ finale showed Joe Gorga with a rented backhoe, “breaking ground” for their new home on a lot in Franklin Lakes (image below). The footage was shot in early 2014. The Gorgas have yet to build the home, and a search of property records in Franklin Lakes produces no results for the Gorgas, which means they do not own property in that town under the name “Gorga.”
Observe the two images below:
1. The first image is a photo of a custom home that Joe claimed in a tweet, dated September 8, 2012, to be building (the tweet remains but the photo has since been deleted).
2. In the second image dated January 14, 2014, Joe is displaying an architectural drawing of the new home he claims to be building in Franklin Lakes.
The photo of the custom home Joe allegedly was building in September 2012 for someone else is the same home he allegedly is building for his family in Franklin Lakes in 2014.
Whose house is that in the first image and did Joe Gorga really build it, or did he notice it one day while driving and snap a shot of it and then contact the architect to get the blueprints?
On May 2, 2014, Star magazine published a story about the Gorgas’ home in Montville nearly going into foreclosure and their attempts to appear wealthier than they really are:
After an extensive investigation into Joe and Melissa Gorga’s lavish lifestyle, Star has uncovered a trail of bounced checks, delinquent loans and thousands of dollars in debt — all for the sake of competing with rich friends and appearing wealthier than they really are.
Reps for the couple deny any problems, but concerned friends say that if the Gorgas aren’t careful, they could wind-up just like the Giudices, who face years in prison after pleading guilty to numerous counts of fraud.
“They are trying to live a lifestyle that they want to become accustomed to, but can’t,” an insider reveals. “It’s only a matter of time before it finally catches up with them.”
The insiders say that Joe and Melissa have always had expensive taste, but getting cast on the Bravo reality show proved to be their financial downfall. The pair was forced to sell their mansion in Montville Township, N.J., but didn’t learn from their mistakes.
“Joe and Melissa definitely have a bad reputation, and their credit history doesn’t track well,” the source observes.
In fact, nearly going into foreclosure was just one of many financial missteps the duo has made — this has resulted in $35,000 worth of tax liens filed against them from the state of New Jersey and more than $130,000 civil lawsuits.
The Gorgas are clearly in a dangerous spiral of debt and spending — and they may want to be careful.
“When Teresa and Joe started flaunting money on the show, the Feds watch them very closely…and busted them,” the insider adds. “There’s no way they aren’t watching the Gorgas now.”
The following is the original blog post, which was published on September 6, 2013.
Joe and Melissa Gorga moved into a rental home at 801 Pony Trail in Franklin Lakes on September 6, 2013 (see image above). The monthly rent is $3,900 – at least $12,000 less than they were paying in mortgage and taxes per month on their Montville home, which they claim to have sold in August 2013. However, as of January 3, 2014, property records for Morris county show that the Gorgas are still the owners.
From what I can tell, there was no sale of their mansion in Montville. Momajackie posted on January 15, 2013:
The following is what I believe happened, as I could not view the actual documents, only the index.
On 8/5/2009 a Mortgage Modification was recorded between Joe Gorga and Sterling Bank. This, I believe, was for the construction of 8 Pond View.
On 4/11/11 two Mortgage Modifications and an Assignment of Rent Mortgage (ROMA Bank) were recorded under the same document number. This I believe would have modified the mortgage at both the shore home and 8 Pond View and gave the Gorgas additional money to fund their lifestyle.
On 10/1/12 a Notice of Settlement with ROMA was recorded, which I believe cleared the shore house and/or allowed the Gorgas to reside at 8 Pond View for a year, hoping Melissa’s ventures would become successful.
On 10/18/12 a new mortgage was made. Not certain what secured that mortgage.
On 12/18/12 a Mortgage Cancellation was recorded,which I believe cleared the shore house, since I can find no mortgage on it in Ocean County.
On 7/7/13 a Discharge of Assignment of Rent Mortgage was recorded, which I assumed discharged the debt the Gorgas owed, gave the bank possession of the property, and allowed the Gorgas perhaps 60 days to move out.
The documents were indeed recorded. As for the Morris County Assessor (link below), if you view “details” you will see the website has not been updated since 2012.
http://mcclerksng.co.morris.nj.us/recordsng_web/default.aspx
A mortgage modification is done by the bank to help struggling homeowners who can’t pay their mortgage – it is an attempt to avoid foreclosure by lowering the monthly payments; it is NOT a refinance, which a lot of people do when interest rates go down. An assignment of rent is done when a mortgaged property is being rented – it ensures the bank can collect the rent directly from the tenants if the mortgage holder can’t pay the monthly mortgage.
Melissa posted a photo of the moving truck (photo above), with the company’s name prominently displayed, probably in exchange for a discount on the moving charges because she is cheap and expects free things since she is such a huge celebrity.
Melissa plugs businesses using her Twitter account and Bravo blogs so that she can get free stuff – like a loaner Bentley and the comped party favors and food for Antonia’s birthday parties.
Even Melissa’s former BFF and bridesmaid, Jan Marie DeDolce, says that Melissa is “very selfish and very cheap”:
“Melissa’s very selfish. She’s very cheap. Seriously. She’s the kind of person who will go into a store and wants to get everything for free. For her daughter’s Holy Communion this year she had people doubting if she actually paid for the big party or Antonia’s dress because she was constantly tweeting about the designer and vendors and plugging their business. She even had a paparazzi photo agency take pictures at the reception. Probably because it was free. She did that because she probably didn’t pay for the dress. Trust me. She gave a gift to my daughter once for her birthday and on the tag of the outfit it said it was for Antonia.” – Jan Marie DeDolce, AllAboutTRH EXCLUSIVE, August 18, 2013
When the Gorgas put their mansion on the market for the second time in May 2012, Joe and Melissa told Us Weekly on May 22, 2012 and Reality Aired on May 12, 2012 that they would be moving into a rental home until Joe builds their next dream home:
“I’m a builder. I custom-built the houses we have lived in and will do the same with our next one. We tried Montville, but it just wasn’t for us. We want to go back to Franklin Lakes, which is closer to where I work, and we’re looking at a couple of properties now. Wait till you see the next house I build.”
“I absolutely love our current house and will be sad to leave, but Joe is an incredible builder, so I have no doubt that I’ll love the next house just as much. Although this is the last time he is getting me to pack-up!”, said Melissa.
“We gave Montville a try and want to move back to Franklin Lakes before the kids reach an age where they will all be in school. When we sell our house in Montville, we will move into a rental while Joe custom builds our next house. Joe is a builder and a businessman. He will sell pretty much any property for the right price and build again bigger and better.”
In September 2012, Joe Gorga tweeted a photo of a home he had under construction. At the time, it seemed like it was going to be their next home since they had put their mansion on the market a few months earlier.
With the Gorgas moving into a rental home, their claim that they are looking for a lot in Franklin Lakes on which to build their next dream home sounds like complete BS. The mansion they just sold was not built as their dream home, and neither will be the next home Joe builds because he builds them as spec homes to flip for a profit.
On August 20, 2013, RadarOnline reported that the Gorgas sold their Montville home for the asking price of $3.8 million; however, the tabloid consistently misreports, so the information is questionable. In fact, they reported that the Gorgas only paid $950,000 for the mansion, but that’s what they paid for the lot in 2007 (they paid cash, per Melissa, which is the profit Joe made from his former home in Franklin Lakes when he sold it in 2006 at the height of the real estate boom) – they took out a $2,250,000 construction loan in 2008 to build the mansion, and later converted it to a regular mortgage loan in the amount of $2,185,199. Us Weekly, aligned with Bravo to promote the Gorgas, also reported on the sale.
On September 14, 2013, a FW reader did some public records research and sent the following information on the Gorga’s mansion:
“It looks like they still own both the Montville mansion and the shore house at 11 Mermaid Road. As of March of 2011, they owed over $2.1 million on their $2.25 mortgage from 2007 so the mortgage company (Roma Bank) made them do a modification placing the property in a sort-of rental status with the bank. As long as they paid their payments of $11,829.40 every month, on time, then they remained in the home, basically renting from the bank. Then, they did another refinance: they re-mortgaged the Montville mansion, shore house, and some property in Paterson (3 tracts) together on October 11, 2012 for a $2.677 million loan and that discharged/paid off their 2007 $2.25 million loan (which previously wrapped the Montville and shore houses together) and discharged the assignment of leases (rental status) on the Montville home (as of July 2013). So, they got a new loan in October 2012 by adding a third property to their mortgage, where they previously had two properties tied together. Not showing a purchase yet though.”
On Realtor.com, their Montville home was not listed as “pending” or “sold” – instead, it was listed as “not for sale” (see image below), which would mean that the listing was removed from the MLS before a private sale was transacted. Rumor has it Johnny Wright, Melissa’s manager since October 2012, worked out a deal with them, and he, or his company, Wright Entertainment Group (WEG), is the new owner of the home.
It could take several months for the sale to be recorded by the county clerk of Morris County – when it is, the details of the property transfer would be in the public record.
Mortgage and taxes on the Gorga’s Montville home totaled $20,000 per month before they refinanced in 2011, which lowered their housing payment to $16,000 per month or almost $200,000 per year (before the cash-out refinance in October 2012 – they extracted $500,000 in equity, probably to pay off their shore house, which was tied to the mortgage loan on their mansion). The cost was probably the real reason they sold their mansion – their entire Bravo salary must have been used to pay the mortgage and taxes.
Before the Gorgas started to build the Montville home in 2008 to impress Bravo, they lived in a rental home similar to the one they just rented – Joe sold his McMansion in Franklin Lakes in 2006 and they didn’t buy the Montville lot until late 2007, after Teresa was cast on RHONJ. They probably would have continued to live in that rental had they not been trying to impress Bravo.
Update 2023:
FAMEWHORGAS 
So are they renting the house from RyanMoose? It’s a nice house, nothing I’d write home about. I wonder what something that goes for rent wise per month (Saddle???).
The staging in the pic to show the movers names and the prominent placement of the J&M chair — LOL.
Fame do you know if they still have a mortgage on the shore house?
If the house is in Franklin Lakes, it is probably renting for about $6,000 a month. Franklin Lakes is a MUCH nicer town than Montville.
Thanks Sue! Amazing how prices differ across the country. In phx you might 3k for that house.
They were paying about $16,000 per month or $200,000 per year (before the cash-out refi) to live in their Montville home, so they’ll save at least $10,000 per month by living in the rental. The cost was probably the real reason they sold their mansion – their entire Bravo salary probably went to paying the mortgage and taxes.
Before the Gorgas started to build the Montville home in 2008 to impress Bravo, they lived in a rental home similar to the one they just rented – Joe sold his McMansion in Franklin Lakes in 2006 and they didn’t buy the Montville lot until late 2007, after Teresa was cast on RHONJ. They probably would have continued to live in that rental had they not been trying to impress Bravo.
Real Housewives is supposed to be about the lifestyles of the rich, but Bravo lowered the standards by casting the Wakiles, and now the Gorgas are no longer living in a luxury home, and the Lauritas could be next, followed by the Giudices.
The Wakiles purchased a lot in Franklin Lakes to build their dream home or, in other words, to create the illusion of wealth in hopes that Bravo will renew their contract as cast members for season 6. The lot address is 755 Barnstable Lane, Franklin Lakes, NJ 07417. They purchased it on June 17, 2013 for $675,000.
Sale Date: 06/17/13 Book: 1482 Page: 2026 Price: 675000
Thanks Fame!
I wouldn’t be surprised, if feeling a little inferior, the Wakiles joined their buddies on the luxury ladder sometime soon….
“No can sing” posted on her twitter…@Kathy@Jacq…thanks for surprising me and coming over to help unpack…also, Kathy, thanks for the gelato…..
To me that’s a very basic looking middle America home. All they need now is their resl car- a Ford. I have no problem with the house as mine looks almost intentical to that one except mine isn’t on a hill, has four sided brick, has a porch and sits on three acres and living in Alabama I pay almost a grand less a month on my mortgage. With all that being said, LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS WITH WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD. Stevie Wonder could see that the Gorgas were fronting for tv, the lack of furniture was the first clue for me, followed by the flaws displayed this season. There’s no way that that house sold for full asking- I won’t believe it until I see the paperwork.
Franklin Lakes rents can go as high as about $8000/mo for a McMansion. The house in the pic looks like an older Urban Farms build if it is actually in FL. Late 80’s 3-5K sq ft. Nothing spectacular. $6K is about right. Makes no sense though to rent in FL unless you feel compelled by the zip? You can get a better home with more amenities in Allendale or Ridgewood which have better selections of rentals and are better situated. Why would a girl with an ego like TSIL rent such a *plain* house? So against her character…
Unless she has a lot in Franklin lakes and wants to start her kids in school there…
Not for nothing – if she was really wanted a trifecta of impressive home, superb schools and proximity to Paterson they would rent or buy in Ridgewood. For $3-4 million you can buy a gorgeous mansion in one of the best school district in the nation and have easy access to NYC as well as their slumlord holdings in Paterson. Historically Franklin Lakes has been a tad nouveau. Some of the newer developments (where Jax and Kim G live for example) have flashy homes on slightly undersized lots. And depending on the builder – you might end up with crappy construction. Don’t get me wrong – its a *very* nice town. But if you really want the best of everything – it’s not where you go.
Yup. You hit the nail on the head. Dual keywords of flash and nouveau describe these families to perfection. Fortunately for Ridgewood, it is too subtle for such trash! Rey simply wouldn’t get it.
I couldn’t agree with both of you more. These NJ women would be eaten alive in Ridgewood. Ridgewood is old money. NJ housewives are white trash with money.
That is were TB is going to live, she probably got plans for something else. If the guy likes kids she will take them with her, if the guy don’t like kids, don’t be surprised if TB gets full custody. If she stopped talking to her sisters, she has no use for them anymore for her next step up.
Didnt know she had stopped talking to her sisters. Guess she doesn’t mind throwing anyone away.
Her sister was waiting for a response from twitter. Ignoring would be a better statement than stopped.
I believe that rumor that her manager worked out a deal with them (I wonder why he did that, he must be getting something other than a controlling share of her and his stardom ;). Melissa is fucking him, pure and simple. Even the manager knows she can’t sing and why would he even be associated with this loser unless Melissa is real dirty in bed and screwing his brains out. Also that house that they are renting is an 80’s McMansion (middle 80’s) and that is probably the only thing that they can afford. Actually they aren’t getting that much from Bravo, so this 6,000 a month old house is eating up all their Bravo money. The other house and mortgage was not only eating up the bravo checks, but he was living off loans from loan sharks and others just to stay afloat (Joe Giudice knows as do Teresa).
And last, that pic of the house that he was working on from last year this time is BS. For one if the house was at that point in construction, it would have been built by Feb of 2013. Two things either happened. That isn’t his house and he just took a picture to make it seem like he is building. Or as I think, that half built house was in default and went to the bank and he was in negotiation (and may still be) to buy it. Just look at the overgrown weeds around the pallet of brick to the right and the ground around the whole place looking like no traffic has been around that place for awhile. On top of the weathering of the wood and brick already on the house. It looks like it was stopped from someone not having the money to finish.
Not as fancy as the spec house but I actually like it better because it’s not so gaudy.
The homes Joe Gorga makes look ridiculous and displeasing to the eye.
The houses Gorga builds are really badly designed and ridiculous looking! Very “busy,” with a lot of discordant architectural features all jumbled together in an effort to look “fancy” but they’re actually hideous.
Exactly! You articulated it perfectly.
Now they can give his parents back the money he swindled from them.
LOL
Can you imagine the coversation? Hey pops, when the wifey sells millions of songs you will get your money back…oops, now he is waiting on book sales to save the day..lol
Their house was under 10,000 sf ? That’s not really a mansion. I mean yeah, its a large home. I don’t know I’d classify it as a mansion.
Did bravo even sign her for a new season? If I were her, I wouldn’t be so quick to spend money I didn’t have. Rumors are rampant there may not be another season. Also, does anyone know why Teresa never posted her blog on bravo?
Since she was bashing Bravo on the editing and talking about all the other cast members, it was likely Bravo’s call to not post it over there.
She posted it on her own website because Bravo edits what she writes & she wanted to get the truth out about what happened at in Arizona.
will be interesting to see how this rental property plays off and competes against the other mcmansions next season
At the very least, it might look furnished since it is a downgrade. This will make them come off more humble. We can thank Joss & Main for picking up a lot of the tab on that.
The Gorga’s look humble….um no.
Do you think Fredo paid his parents back????
Even if he had the money, I doubt he would pay his father back. He would use it to further his agenda with his wife.
Sad but true! Joey wont pay his dad bak. Sr.Gorga is so ill 2. Slojo destroyed his OWN family 4 the rantings from his jealous/narcissitic/devious/mirror obssed/cold hearted/showoff/charletain/wife, puke!
I hope the rumors r true, that this is the last/the end of this show.
The elders & the babies of all families invlvd here, all need 2 heal from their parents shameless “rise 2 fame @ the xpns of our family tree!”
The sad part is, I see nothing wrong with that rental – it’s a perfectly lovely house. I also think Kathy’s house is nice (the decor – not so much).
I also see nothing wrong with Stumpy making a living by landscaping and cleaning pools – it’s honest work. If, (or when) Teresa has to move to a different home, I hope that she doesn’t make the same mistake twice by pouring all of her resources into another mcmansion, and leaving her family vunerable financially. I think she could be happier in a more humble environment if she allows herself to do so.
For the life of me, I will never understand why people will sacrifice their peace of mind to keep up appearances. Take a look at Warren Buffets home.
I am a firm believer in living a notch or two beneath your means. The peace of mind and security it provides can add years to your life.
I agree w you on this notion Life!! My brother and SIL are in this boat. He makes bug bucks and they live in a really upscale community in upstate NY. Their lifestyle (compared to where we all came from) is REALLY over the top, we are talking country club and all…I am not hating ( they include me in their life big time! So I am involved in this upscale lifestyle but happily get to come home to what I call a more down to earth existence-but they are great and I appreciate them although I am out of my element with the opulence sometimes) but I do worry for them at times that they spend so much to keep up appearances!! And God forbid my brother loses even a penny of income–they would crash down hard!! And the kids, who are now accustomed to a certain life (as w/Teresa’s) would have a hard adjustment if this life was lost. They could probably have a nice small fortune to retire to if they scaled back the house, the cars (always the latest BMW s and Range Rovers), the country clubs and golf… but some people just can’t swallow their pride. My family is among them. To each his own I guess??!!
Jack Hole,
It is true – to each his own. If you earned the $$ it’s really no ones business (me included!) how you choose to spend it. I’m just wondering about what motivates people to act this way.
I also have family in a similar situation. Only they have “made it” and “lost it” several times over the past few decades! It’s the same pattern. He makes a lot of money – they move or purchase a second home, begin leasing multiple cars, extravagant vacations, etc.. Then the bottom falls out. They have come close to divorcing several times during the down times. Yet, they repeat the same behavior the next time they make some $$. I don’t get it!!
As for the kids, I do think there will be a hard time adjusting. But kids will take cues from the parents. If their parents are relaxed and happy, they will be better for it.
Carlos Slim – even wealthier than Buffet – lives in an *extremely* modest home. I think it’s smaller than Warren’s
Warren Buffet’s home isn’t really modest. It is over 5,000 sq ft, and it is not the only home he ones.
I so agree with you, LIG! Much less stress and more practical to live a bit more simply than you need to!
for a landscaper, joe’s montville his lawn was in bad shape. i would never hire him,his work is lousy and i’d be afraid of lawsuits with his temper. he might get mad, hit someone on the head with a rake
LOL!!! TB getting mad at hitting someone on the head with a rake! I could see him do that, too!
“2 long days”? For like 12 items of furniture? She also said, she is so ocd about packing she has to wrap every last plate carefully herself? Yea ok and remember “I have dinner waiting on the table for my husband every night”? What? A doggy bag from the sushi lounge LOL!
LMAO
I do believe she’s OCD. Did you watch the beading store episode? She was very OCD with the girls and Tre was like, let them just do their thing.
I can see her giving TB lists and saying you have to do this and in this order or Tarzan doesn’t get to play.
I think she’s just anal and controlling.
And a biotch.
Well, DUH 😀
Didn’t someone mention that she only had a 4 piece setting anyways? *.*
TSIL said her husband is the best gift giver. TB said she gets gifts when she gives gifts in the bedroom. When those gifts stop, her gifts stop. listen here around 2:34 mark
She actually has her arm around TB. Of course she needed him then. He wants more action for 2012 which sounds like he needs more sex yet he said when he knocks the door opens.
@kayswhims Look how wide her nose is!! No contouring that night Meho?? LOL how demeaning of TB, if my man said that I would have hit him with that guys mic!
It is a good picture of what TB thinks is wife material, so when he said that she was his future wife to one of his friends she must have “impressed him”
“More gifts in the bedrm” ?! Eww! Im gona gag! Do u think she ever gets embarsd by this monkey?
Yes, I think she can’t wait to unleash him.
Could someone please help me here, I tried to enlarge my screen but it won’t go as big as I need…..is that grannypants in the background staying within camera range prancing in front of the mirror? And when was this? One says 2012 and the other says 2009?
LMAO…he is such a tool. He’s got to be right all up in that interview, doesn’t he, pretty little housewife that he is.
TB “You got me memorized with that voice! Can you repeat. . .?”
Ummmmm – That would be “mesmerized”
TB really shouldn’t try to use big words.
LMAO!
LMAO x2*.*
Hmmm I can’t see the video, does anyone know where else it can be viewed? Is it an interview?
I found it on youtube but at the top of the video it says vocabmagazine.com, I tried that and the website is not there. I found http://vocabmagg.com/home.html Vocab Magazine © 2009 Melissa and Joe Gorga at Schultz Furrier interview scroll down to bottom on this link http://www.vocabmagg.com/tv.html
“When I knock on that door, that door better open!”
This is the mentality of an abuser! A rapist! He thinks because he’s the husband he owns her body and gets to use it when he wants how he wants!
Disgusting!
Did TB buy her a gift or is this free for advertising?
http://schultzfurrier.com/melissa-gorga-wearing-schultz-furrier-furs-2/
different video at bottom of page.
“Bravo TV’s hottest couple, Melissa and Joe Gorga”
http://schultzfurrier.com/joe-and-melissa-gorga-shop-at-schultz-furrier-for-valentines-day/
OCD is and can be crippling for people who actually have it. This girl, is just a controlling bitch.
You are right Hil and I apologize if my comment was insensitive. I do think that OCD, bullying and autism are terms that are used to much and because of that the seriousness of the true conditions are overlooked.
I believe she said that just in case she could not find a “free for a tweet” mover. In my opinion, businesses should really think twice before offering any housewife a service for a tweet. For everyone who loves the housewife, some person out there dislikes this same housewife.
Not only did Empire Steak not collect money for the dinner Melissa, Joe and the children had for Antonia’s birthday, they did not and will never get any of my business. Wayne’s moving and Joss & Main can forget it also. Not that I could see myself using the service, but who would have thought I considered dining at Empire Steak before the Melissa tweets. As for Joss & Main I really loved the merchandise, however you are not providing anything that cannot be purchased somewhere else.
@momajackie
Do these companies realize that the demographic of those that actually like these maroons is about 12 – 17??? Their discretionary spending is a little bit (sarcasm) different than to whom they should be marketing – ADULTS!
No, they haven’t figured that out yet. Nor have they figured out that Melissa’s twitter followers are all eggs.
eggs that are cracked non the less *.*
Not sure if this is posted downthread so AAA…
FCC requires the word “AD:” or “Adv.” in some variation before sponsored or affiliate content online to indicate that what follows is, “for all intensive purposes,” an advertisement. This includes tweets, blogs, status updates. So if she’s getting these products and services in exchange for publicity, and not throwing the required words before it, she’s violating FCC rules, and those will cost you 10K a pop. Good thing her new book is going to be a massive bestseller! That should more than pay for all the future fines.
Er, wait…
Yep – those sloppy seconds for Joey
Rather disgusting mental image there, thanks @Saddle_River_NJ!! 🙂
definately a doggy bag from the sushi lounge….remember she cant cook because the flames from the stove might melt her fake eyelashes or melt her makeup…LOL
her 4 pieces of china?
She only has 4 pieces of china? Whaaaat?? But she has a family of 5? Maybe that’s why she always has her sister take the kids – isn’t there enough crockery to eat from…
“A doggy bag from the sushi lounge”
…with leftovers.
I hope that Teresa and her friends happiness were due to her finally leaving RHONJ and getting her own show (project).
P.s. Since ryanmoose wants to see his house on tv i wonder if he was willing to let her live in the house rent free?
So true!! Never thought of that!
In the State of New Jersey, as a landlord, do you only have to give a 24 hr. notice to inspect your rental?
He’s only a kid…
He’s a kid?
yeah.. from the instagrams you can tell. Bahareh goujani is linked to him it seems and he is a Realtor in NJ. Possibly related? who knows…. maybe Fame can get more of a scoop
Well, being a “kid” around those two, I’m sure he’s gonna learn some “stuff”. Maybe even what color wrist band to wear…..just sayin’ *.*
If Joe Gorga did in fact get a loan to build a spec house, and then lived in that spec house as his residence, why aren’t the Feds going after him for mortgage fraud?? A contractor living in a spec house as their residence is illegal, right??
He refinanced that construction loan and got a traditional mortgage.
Only AFTER he had been living in the house for over a year. He was forced to get a new loan by the mortgage company when they found out he had been living there. The value decreased to the bank once it became “not new.” That ‘s not fraud; just not living by the rules of his spec loan.
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LOL … no they did not work 🙂
Yeah, that was a fail, Jules! What pics were they? The Melissa bust a move one was hilarious.
I couldn’t figure out if she was trying to playing with her tits or trying to rap!
LOL, definitely not a flattering pic!
If you click on “Real Housewives of New Jersey” you will bring up Facebook and all pictures can be viewed.
I especially like the word “M O M” tattooed on Chris’s arm. Are these pictures real or is this some type of joke?
I have no idea … but made me giggle.
I can only hope that tat is fake.
They are from the RHONJ official page so I think they’re real, as much as my son loves me I don’t want him to get my name on his bicep LOL!
maybe when he looks down at it, it says W O W. Tee-hee *.*
I only pray for good health and safety of those I love but I WISH that Melissa and kathy get fired from the show and a new cast is brought in to replace them. Let their sinking careers go bust and Kathy can realize that she overspent on things she couldn’t afford in order to look like she belonged. Melissa’s non existent singing career will be over since bravo won’t be there to manufacture a venue for her. That is my wish, to see them crash and burn and go back to being the low life losers they were before they decided to destroy a family for fame.
ITA!
Without Teresa this show is dead in the water.
I think they know that they obtained what little they have because they were connected to Teresa. They should know that making her look bad does not help their marketability. How far is a storyline going to go with Kathy talking to Caroline about her problems with Rich? Kathy doesn’t do anything that would further Caroline’s agenda for her “children”. Melissa does not have a storyline forming with any other cast member. They are toast and they know it.
I honestly think they believe that if they get rid of Tre that they will become the breakout stars. Not gonna happen.
Question that stems more from the previous blog, so, kinda off topic. If the show was cancelled would that negate their contract and the 5 year rule? Or would it be something that they would need to negotiate with Bravo?
My experience is that if you are “fired” any contracts are null and void as they cannot prohibit you from making a living. But I’m not a reality star. I know with my last job, I had a non-compete clause for 1 year and I had to get their approval to release me from that when I quit.
I would think that would be the case as well, but, like you, I’m no reality star either!
Then why doesn’t Danielle spill her guts?
According to Heather Maclean who has her own experience with reality tv and the contracts that come with it years ago, the Bravolebrities, whether “let go” or not, it is in their contracts that whatever they do for five years after, they have to get Bravo’s permission to do anything else. Bethanny, Danielle, et al. were given permission to appear on other networks. This would mean that Danielle is still tied to Bravo and possibly “can’t” spill her guts yet. Who knows what’s true and what isn’t anymore?!?!?!?!
I think what you say about Danielle not being able to spill makes perfect sense. Seems to me that would be a fairly standard clause…if not, most anyone could get themselves fired and go bad mouthing their previous employer with no punishment. I was just wondering if I should hope that the entire show should be cancelled so that Teresa could move on to another network, lol.
Wait, I meant I would think that if the show itself were cancelled that they would all be allowed to do wherever since the show would be cancelled per Bravo and not because of the cast (in theory). I think, regardless, there would be a confidentiality clause that would not allow them to talk about “trade secrets” though. I think being fired would not negate the contract as it would be your own doing that got you fired. Not sure if I am making any sense 😀
I think that they must have a non-compete clause in there if they’re cancelled – they seem pretty controlling so I don’t think they would miss anything. How many years has it been for Jill? She def strikes me as someone who would spill since shes not getting back on.
I’m left to wonder then, now we are seeing RHNJ and other Bravo show appearing on E, Style and not sure of any others, so would Bravo not be breaking the contract as Exclusive?(not sure this makes any sense to anyone but me)
I know exactly whet u mean shoe! But the excludive is on the reality personality side -bravo sees them as their exclusive property and so bravo decides what can be done with them, the personalities don’t have the same power. In those cases where bravo has given permission (dina’s show) they probably either get a cut or don’t see it as competition/damaging to the HW franchise (which is funny since most things would improve it!)
So then why bother having these people on WWHL and ask them very poignant questions that you know they can’t answer.. seems ridiculous!
Because it’s Bravo and most viewers take everything at face value. Frustrating…
Hmmm…I don’t know where I posted my comment, but I don’t see it. My question has nothing to do with this post so I apologize in advance for going off topic, but… If the show was to be cancelled, would that negate the 5 year rule in the housewives’ contracts or is that something that they would each have to negotiate with Bravo? Also, could Teresa could still move forward in her branding and representation of additional products or would she need to obtain permission from Bravo for any other ventures. Thanks!
It’s above this comment Bree — LOL. I have no clue how the products would be affected. Heck she didn’t sign up with the Devil, oh wait she did. I think that because she does generate so much money, that’s why Bravo won’t release her from the contract and won’t fire her.
Well, it IS up there, isn’t it?! I must be blind or my computer slow (or both)! I was just wondering if I should hope that the show is totally cancelled, lol. I don’t think it will be any time soon, but was just curious.
This site is making me lash out… I just spoke up on stoopid housewives where there is an OBVIOUS Marco attack at the end of the penny to blame comments. Wow I went from a quiet browser to an all out Giudice defender!
Lisa and some new folks are on a roll today. I tried to post, but I’m in moderation (I must have pissed MISS SH off). What pissed me off were the derogatory comments re: FameWhorgas.
Me too MsJ!
I read SH but only because I can actually see the videos that she posts I’m in Australia and can’t get any of the videos on bravo but I think she is very rude to people who comment .
I do too! She doesn’t allow anyone to ask questions. You have to go through all of her blogs to try to find the answer to any question regarding the shows. I only commented a couple of times, but after seeing her rudeness towards the people posting, I quit going to her site all together. (And, by all means, don’t use improper grammar or make any spelling errors. You will get called out.)
Not to mention ..god forbid you mention something previously posted….you’ll get a big fat duh/check the search bar comment. Not pleasant there sometimes. Best to do a drive by. Comment and run lol..
I was wondering what was going on with that site. I was going to read there and it said I had to send a message for approval.?? Or something like that. I’ve read there year or so but have rarely posted a comment. So why would they block/boot me or whatever is going on?
Hm appears my comment above was edited, thats pretty bothersome.
Yes, lalala, I’m sorry that I forgot to note that I edited out the tail end of your comment. I didn’t just single your comment out – I deleted some other comments, with the goal of ending the negative discussion about SH here on FW. Your comment, in particular, incited some negative reaction – replies that you can’t see because they were awaiting moderation and which I did not approve. I hoped that by removing part of your comment, the replies continuing the discussion would end.
Thanks for explaining fame – I appreciate that and understand why. I appreciate how you keep this blog civil. W/out the note, the editing felt weird! TY!
I can’t get on SH anymore! Have to sign in through WordPress and nothing works! Anyone else having this problem???
Daisymay I can’t get on SH’s either.
Got on. Think site was down for some reason
her site was down for repairs or something, yes she is nasty. i said something about monica being a lawyer and she jumped in saying monica wasn’t a lawyer her hubby was, i told her i read it on fame,so its true, never git answer then
YOU are right though – Monica IS an attorney, which IS documented here on FW!
Because unlike the claims a certain commenter made on SH that Fame doesn’t document her articles, there is NO other site that has, in its archives, such a trove of research and documentation like Fame has.
Maybe that commenter should start at the very beginning and actually READ this blog and educate themselves.
Surprised at SH for allowing bashing of a fellow blogger – Fame tries not to allow it here.
Yes, Jeannie, I try not to allow it here, just like I try not to allow commenters to insult each other at FW. I, myself, don’t like to bash other bloggers (except for calling out RadarOnline for misreporting facts and the former QoM for vile tweets directed at the Giudices). I gave up trying to stop commenters from bashing other bloggers here at FW, but I would prefer that negative discussions not occur. I am aware of what is going on over there but I choose to ignore it, and I emphatically encourage everyone else to do the same.
What I like about this Fame-bly site is, even if a poster wants to try and turn the conversation to the dark side, someone is always willing to post a positive to bring back the light. I LOVE THIS SITE!!!! You are doing a great job Fame…keep up the good work*.*
I’m curious as to what’s going on over there? I’ve been a poster at SH for years and have seen one negative comment regarding this site. MsSH quickly shut that commenter down. http://stoopidhousewives.com/2013/09/06/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-penny-is-blamed-for-the-melissa-gorga-cheatin-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-465852
Fame is supported on SH blogroll. You wouldn’t be on the blogroll if she had any issues with you or this site.
Jeannie, at the end of that thread, she asked that people don’t comment on other blog owners and that people are free to choose whichever sites they like. Got to give credit where credit is due..it was handled professionally.
Ok..she didn’t defend site owners. She said comments about other blogs should be made on those blogs..it was still a fair comment. Damn, I’ve got the memory of an elephant but, would make a rotten eye witness. Lol.
Thanks Dubbalicious! Last I was over there reading those comments, SH had not posted that yet so I am glad to see she did. 🙂
Agreed! 🙂
just me’s two posts were deleted, maybe Ms SH poofed her. She didn’t say anything wrong her second post was just explaining why she writes in caps. So uncool of the commenters to jump all over her like that.
Monica is a lawyer – or at least that’s what bravo stated. In season 3 episode 9 as at Meho’s Christmas party Kim G gets out of her car with Monica and bravo puts up “Monica, lawyer suing the Giudice’s”
Also in that episode Meho pronounces library “liberry” and her library contains no books…
Me either. Are they blocking all FW posters or what? I’m glad to to see this because I couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong about signing in. So it wasn’t me. Hmmm
The site was down for maintenance for a couple of days. Seems to be up and running now. For me at least! 🙂
Good for u SJ!! I cant even read SH anymore, everyone is so nasty – esp after those rude comments to Just Me.P. Ms SH herself is too snarky. Ok now going to find your comment!
ITA! I used to read that site as well but when the comments got really ugly and they were not moderated it implied to me that that was the tone that was desired and it didn’t feel comfortable to me.
I used to post there, not so much but than they started writing only about Arias case… there were no housewives stuff – only court, Arias and Arias.
It was too much even though I used to watch some of the court stuff and I was inteested in this.
So after few weeks being fed up I wrote something like it’s sad that SH was good source of ALL housewives info especially for people from other countries and now it’s only Arias case and main ” characters” – commentators attacked me and insisted that I should depart ..who are you to tell other commentator to depart so many times just because the site that is called “stoopid housewives” is no longer about housewives – that’s the fact and I have a right to express my opinion. And MsSH did not react although she’s always reacting when someone is attacking others.
I didn’t like it and I don’t like the atmosphere there any more.. There are many bad people and I go there only to watch previews because I can’t watch them on bravo or hulu, it doesn’t work here.
OMG! I just went over and read the attack on JUST ME…unbelievable. And one person was even asking “Ms SH” if they could respond to Just Me. Seriously? That site is too “controlled” and is like walking on eggshells…
just me has bad eyesight, writes with caps. don’t know who made this rule about caps, but she wasn’t yelling, just talking but couldn’t se the small print. one woman there, lisa the irish dragon is bad news, she hates anyone who likes teresa. she has answer for everyone that says anything,, so i use 3 different names there lol
Lisa used to be on the fringes of the Queenz of Media camp when he first started bashing Teresa. This was before he flipped 180 degrees and was a Teresa sympathizer. Some of that camp still are around bashing Teresa whenever and however they can.
Hi Jeannie I think we got us some 3 mouse-kee-teers on here today. A house unpacking is under way. Code for operation “let’s see how stupid some people are” anywhoooooo, ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL????? *.*
Yes…and she explained that to them, and they were still attacking her!
Hmmm ya know just realized Lisa the Irish dragon’s posts remind me solo much of jpg from aatrh,have to be the same person (IMO)
lisa is lost case, no way to understand anything even after explaining
my last observation was hilarious – she said that Tre is jealous of Mel’s singing and it was under Mel’s last infamous video with her real voice – Lisa is delusional and so strong, I think she has too much time because she responds so often and always the same…
I posted a few threads ago about the nasty comment directed at just me. I’ve read on other sites she posts in caps due to vision problems. Naturally I came here to tattle on SH for fear of being verbally assaulterd there for defending her!! Wrong. Just wrong!!
I am so glad I haven’t been on SH in a very long time where does she get saying that this site is “guesswork” please. I “guess” the jealousy is coming out……
Stoopid Housewives has decided to hate on the Guidice’s before they are found guilty.
ITA!
http://www.statscrop.com/www/stoopidhousewives.com
control issues?
Very interesting…is the still ongoing? I have noticed that the “regulars” do kiss up to her. Like they are afraid they will be blocked if they disagree with her.I’m not a child, and I feel like I can voice my opinion if I want, with out being called out or blocked…
this is childish – she blocks, so what? i can live without possibility to write there…maybe her fans-commentators can’t
When I lived on the east coast in the tri-state area years ago I used to enjoy going to Little Italy in New York. After enjoying a sfogliatelle and espresso at Ferrara’s I would never miss going window shopping at the furniture stores in the neighborhood and wonder who would buy the over the top white and gilt extravaganzas…after seeing that chair in the photo above I know the answer.
Hey, there’s been several mentions over the past few days about Teresa’s blog missing from the Bravo site this week…but I just realized that Mama Manzo’s isn’t there yet either.
Good point Elle — and the previous week Jac didn’t post either. Not sure why Caro didn’t.
I have a feeling the show is over and these ladies know it or think it may be over. Just a feeling.
So how long do you think it’ll take for reports to surface that they are not paying the rent like “I’m gone with the wind fabulous” chick from Atlanta HW??? I reckon 6 months!!
“gone with the wind fabulous” never gets old LOL
ITA!!!
If bravo doesn’t sign her it will be sooner than that. Who will want her then?
Andy has tweeted that he doesn’t know about Tre’s blog (yeah, right) and that she lifted the horses leg after everyone had left. How convenient….for Bravo.
Ender Valladres @Explicit211 11h
@Andy answer me why you didnt post teresa blog when she called bravo out by not showing her lift the horses leg?
Andy Cohen @Andy 10h
@Explicit211 don’t know abt the blog. Leg lift was hour later all had gone
Someone stood there for an hour with a camera filming teresa trying to lift the horses leg after eveyone left? Mr. Webb would be okay with that? Ya Andy I so believe what you say
Ok – if Andy has confirmed that the leg lift happened, someone needs to ask Caroline why she lied in her TH – which was filmed long after the visit to the ranch. Even if Caroline didn’t witness it, I’m sure Teresa talked about it later that night!
Such crapped up phoniness and fakery!
Yes, but don’t ya know the purpose of the exercise was too it as a group … SMH. Bottom line is she overcame her fear.
I wonder if she’s trying to get herself fired from the show, hence posting her anti-bravo blog on her own website. I think she’s done with this group of @$$holes. She has bigger things to deal with.
Anyone know the location of this rental?
I assume it would be somewhere in Franklin Lakes because TSIL tweeted at some point around the time the sale of the house was made public that she was registering her kids in new schools, which would make sense so that once “the new dream home was finished” she wouldn’t have to switch them again.
Agree but I live nearby and want to check it out! Wonder if the wakiles will follow soon… Birds of a feather you know –
I want to know what happened to the new house he was building in the above picture, I saw this picture a year ago when they were trying to create their own blog. Something is fishy here. He advertises as a landscaper, not a real estate developer, yet we see him post this picture and also the warehouses he is supposedly developing? He doesn’t have a contractor license either, I know he could use someone else’s license, but when does he have the time to supervise a job like this along with his other endeavors and still follow his wife all over the country. Also, he is so broke he borrows money from numerous people and what about the $500000 he took out on the last refinance. It just does not add up. Saddle, any help here?
Another tidbit, if she is getting freebies for tweeting ,this is called bartering and is fully taxable income. I hope Hiza advises her on this.
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Another pic I found… Meho posing with cupcakes (because T is thinking about getting into that particular branch of business?) au natural? She looks v strange w/o make-up.
I’m re-watching RHONJ, I’m on season 4 ep 2 atm. He admits his hair is thinning and is taking something for it (I’ve never heard of it before)
TB says in the car to MeHo that Joe Giudice “You know what the problem is with him? The guy analyses me, he’s like ‘what’s up with your hair?’ I’m like ‘what d’ya mean what’s up with my hair?’ cos it was a little thinner, yeah well I’m takin propecia and he goes ‘propecia?'”
I wonder if he was hoping for an endorsement deal. If so, I guess there’s little chance of that happening…
Clearly it didn’t work so well if he resorted to hair in a can…
I can’t imagine any business besides a local tanning salon wanting a roid filled half wit as a spokesman for a product.
I love “roid-filled half wit” — I literally LOLed.
guess we know now it doesn’t work 🙂
@Patricia I’d never actually heard of it (propecia) before, although I’m not an insecure, balding, midget frog. Is it like a pill or shampoo (if you know) thanks 🙂
@RHOFW heard of it before for balding went to look it up not knowing if it was a cream or a pill and found this ((Propecia (finasteride) Permanent Sexual Dysfunction Risk )) which isn’t a good. thing.. My DH is balding and just awesome..
@Patricia Thank you! That explains a LOT about TB!! He certainly is sexually dysfunctional 😀 Balding men can be cool, lying, backstabbing and betraying balding men – not so cool lol.
Now that the Gorgas have all this cash from the sale of their “mansion”, perhaps all their creditors should come a knock, knock, knockin’ on their rental door.
By the time they pay all their bills, there won’t be much left to build another “dream home”. I would venture a guess they are going to be in this rental for awhile saying “it takes time to build the house of your dreams!! That’s if they can manage the monthly rent
I don’t see how they saw a single nickle from that sale. The house was so heavily leveraged.
Also, how on earth is he still building homes? Where is the $$ coming from? He was having trouble keeping the lights on – what bank would loan him anything?
Exactly! With mortgages and loans now being scrutinized, thankfully, it won’t be so easy for them to get the money they will need to build anything the size they had in Franklin Lakes, a much more expensive area.
Also, the Gorgas had better be careful with their finances given what Teresa is going through. I would imagine that has got to have put a bit of a scare into them. His past shady dealings will catch up to him, and if any of those dealings are tied into the Giudices’ or if the Feds start looking into the senior Gorgas’ finances because of the connection with Teresa, it could very well happen that all of it will come out.
They owed $2.5 million at least on this house on a balloon loan that came due in 2012. They had to refi again in 2012 and from what I can see there are several names on the loan from another bank to pay off the first loan. I don’t see them walking away with anything on this house.
The refi in 2012 was fir 2.6 million – I only see 1 bank’s name on it – Roma bank which is sadly a victim of the crisis. Almost 100 yrs old, it started as a bank to help Italians – got into bad mortgages and got into trouble (similar to Fremont in CA) It was taken overby investors bank this year.
Jeannie,
If Joey Gorga’s loan applications are placed under scrutiny, I think some trouble lies ahead for him. Although, his financial situation must not be as dire as the Giudices if he is still able to keep his construction projects afloat. Although, I don’t believe anything I read about these people anymore!
I hope you are doing well. Keeping you and your family in my prayers!
Wasn’t their monthly mortgage payment 15,000?
I read somewhere that after trying unsuccessfully to get on the show, Melissa and joe made a drunken godfather spoof tape for Andy promising to reveal all Teresa’s secrets and take her down. That tape is what convinced bravo that ratings were more important than good taste and morals.
If this tape exist, would the feds have requested it? It may contain information that started the ball rolling.
I don’t think the audition tape would be particularly relevant to the case but, if TSIL or TB were called to testify, I think it could show bias and reflect on their credibility as witnesses.
Teresa’s attorney is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and he definitely knows what he’s doing.
Bravo has it if true and would have to hand it over. Maybe it would just show how hateful and spiteful her own brother was and how bravo was complicit in destroying Teresa.
OT…why is it that on the Bravo blog, none of my “likes” are registering? Are you only allowed so many “likes”? Very frustrating…
The website has been wackadoodle for a couple of weeks 😦
I want someone to interview former Mob Wives star Love Majewski….she knows a lot about Melissa
me too, that would be soooo interesting little bear
She scares me, and I’m fearless. (well behind a computer screen anyways)*.*
I want Love to make a special guest appearance and watch TB and TSIL crap their pants.
how does Love know about Messy? I didn’t know that, girls!
Through Bryan. She used to borrow clothes from Love all the time.
http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/the-dish/ten-big-reveals-from-melissa-gorgas-new-book
Do they ever feature recipes from Teresa’s books?
Even the comments on there are mostly negative, the bloom is definitely off that rose.
They should! I just made her roasted cauliflower and olives recipe yesterday and it was sooo good! Honestly, every recipe I’ve made from her books has been really good!
whatever happen to his twitter?
Off Topic: On Anthony A. Twitter page, he said that his story would have been out if Melissa’s lawyer didn’t try to stop it!
Did he say anything about the horse and Mr.Webb?
I’m at the point that I will not believe it exists until I see it. If it were that easy to stop stories from going to the tabloids, the tabloids would not exist.
I’m with you … I’ll believe it when I see it. Quite frankly I don’t know how you could “prove” the allegations without a video or photos.
How is Messy’s ego going to fit into that rental home? 😉
I hope Teresa sends her a “Congratulations on your new rental home” card*.*
lol
Lmao @ both chem and shoe! Sooo funny, I needed that!
Oh, good one, shoebuyer – LOL!!!
Hilarious. Lol
LOL!
Anthony was at JTK and PDK house last night they were tweeting up a storm he has told his story says it will be out before Melissa book and the reason it took so long is her lawyers tried to stop it. It’s about to go down!
I don’t see anything on Anthony’s timeline about Melissa’s lawyer tying to stop his story from being published. Can you copy and post the tweet for us, gsmoot1?
It was actually on Faux’s, I’ll try and find it.
I don’t know how to do the pretty cut n pastes ….
Faux Reality Ent @FauxRealityE 4h
Rumor says @AArater’s story would have been out weeks ago if @MelissaGorga’s lawyer hadn’t tried to intimidate Magazine #LawFailed #RHONJ
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Thanks mzjules! To copy and paste, just press and hold the left mouse button while you drag the mouse over what you want to copy – it will be highlighted as you drag the mouse over it (release the mouse button when you’ve highlighted want you want to copy) – then press CTRL + C to copy and CTRL + V to paste it into a comment, WordPad file, etc.
Mine aren’t pretty … just the text 😦
Thanks mzjules!
Last night Penny tweeted:
Penny Drossos @PDKhair 21h
After a long days work look what I came home to. To think some thought he was fake Hmmmmm pic.twitter.com/YZfiyd4pHl
8:08 PM – 6 Sep 13
The picture is one of Anthony Arater and Johnny (giving the middle finger salute). She then tweeted several more pictures of Anthony, his wife Tara, and his dog Trouble. Apparently, they have made the trip up from Florida to New Jersey and are visiting with the Greeks. Penny also tweeted:
Penny Drossos @PDKhair 19h
@FauxRealityE @AArater @JohnnyTheGrk well since all my boom scenes were edited out ill make it go boom bang now ..
10:13 PM – 6 Sep 13
It’s not just me, your’s (cut n pastes from twitter) aren’t pretty either Jeannie. 🙂
LOL!!!
Has Andy been demoted at Bravo? Is that why his twitter name changed?
http://rumorfix.com/2011/08/exclusive-is-andy-cohen-in-trouble-with-bravo/
nevermind thats 2011
I thought it was weird too … maybe he got promoted and won’t just be dealing with Bravo, guessing.
Would the Feds be investigating Andy, if he lied about something to stir something up for the show, but instead it caused a real life issue with Teresa’s finances?
“I was really shocked and amazed by what a little (trouble)-stirrer and liar I’ve been in my life, and I wound up getting away with it,” Cohen said. “The various things I did were so ballsy, it’s amazing that I survived. I was so opinionated and loudmouthed as an intern and on and on and on. I think that was one thing that surprised me. I was like, ‘Wow, I can’t believe I got away with this much.’”
http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2013/06/bravo_boss_andy_cohen_on_writi.html
why the hell does she still blame Teresa when her old parking lot friends keep coming out, if she wasn’t worried she wouldn’t have had her atty contact them. her atty must be tired and overworked.
TSIL atty has to be overworked and tired….after all they can’t threaten everyone coming out of the wood works can he/she ( the atty)? TSIL would need an army of attys to try to silence EVERYONE.
You should be able to access the Stoopid Housewives site now – it was down for a couple of days for routine maintenance.
Didn’t Danielle work on a non-bravo restaraunt reality show after she left HWofNJ? Maybe it was an NBC station or something.
It looks like that Anthony guy’s story was ready to go but Melissa had her attorney messing with the magazine – however – according to FauxEnt twitter, it is going to print afterall. No legal restrictions – which tells me, he has backup for anything he is saying!!
Penny wrote another blog on FauxReality.com but now you have to have a passwoed to read it? Must be very telling? Her husband is sueing Bravo so I would think she would be smart enough to keep quiet unless they/he caved to Bravo by now – interesting – does anyone know anything about that?
I really wish they would cancel this show…..I think it is better for the Guidices and majority of viewers dont want to watch Andy and the evil crew smirking and faking concern over Tre’s problems.
What magazine is printing Anthony’s story? I hope they show the proof he has
Danielle also had a show on Wealth TV long after leaving RHONJ. It had to do with her going to various social events, or something like that.
http://www.vh1.com/shows/famous_food/series.jhtml
I didn’t watch the show, seemed like a train wreck with Heidi Montag and Danielle in the cast. It surprised me that Big Pussy from the Sopranos – can’t remember the actor’s name – was on a show like this.
As I mentioned upthread, according to Heather Maclean’s Twitter TL, Danielle was given permission by Bravo to do those other shows as was Dina. She said Bravo has say on what they can and cannot do for outside projects or appearing on other networks.
They must have both quit then Jeannie and Bravo kept 1st right of refusal and approved it and did not release them. If they fire you have the right to seek and find any employment you want, why would they have to approve? By doing refusing to allow them to seek other opportunities (if fired) that’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. I totally get the NDA for life, but not the blocking of and/or approving jobs they take if you fire them.
Don’t do twitter but no new blog on faux site since july17! Rats
I just watched a clip from the upcoming episode. ( http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/rhonj-first-look ) The scene is from the evening before the group leaves Miraval. Glasses clinking, congenial conversation…as well all know by now, that can’t last for long. Next is a Jac TH with the conflicting message…having fun with Teresa but I know she talked about me and did things behind my back when we were fighting, blah, blah, blah. Like you didn’t talk about her, Jac? Besides, if you claim you don’t care about that now why bring it up at all. Shut up, Jac! Then Mama Manzo has to play devil’s advocate…we’re having a good time so let me put a stop to that by insisting we bring up more grievances and get the hate train back on the tracks. Shut up, Caroline!
Then the most interesting part of the scene takes place. TB is not happy with the status quo and says, “We have these enemies that we don’t even know saying stuff about me that nobody knew. There’s facts here.” Teresa responds, “So you think I would tell her (Penny?) like secrets about you? TB responds, “Yes.” Whoa there, stumpy!! What the hell does that mean? Is he saying there is truth to those accusations?
“Saying stuff about me that nobody knew” it seems to me he’s trying to insinuate that T is telling them TRUE things and it must be her because she knows where his&hers matching skeletons (like her Parent’s matching Rolex’s) are buried?
TB needs to get over himself. And Jac needs to make up her mind – either be friends with Teresa or don’t be. Frankly, I don’t think Teresa cares as much as Jac.
I won’t start on Caroline because I’ll be here all night.
I think Jac is pretending to care about her friendship with T. I guess she thinks it makes her look pained, concerned confused and deep down a good girl. Yeah Jac, we believe you. NOT
A commenter on another blog speculated that the facts referred to were about Joe Gorga and his – um – situation with a girl while he was in college. Nobody cares about the cheating except the Gorgas, but only because it’s their storyline.
Whatever he’s referring to, at least one of the things they claim is a lie apparently isn’t. Interesting. Anyone know what college he attended or how long? He doesn’t strike me as the scholarly type.
These days Collages are not set up to attract scholarly types. Those days are long gone.
Around 1993 Slow-Joe attended Kean College and was apparently accused of assaulting of a girl at a party. The poor girl did report it but nothing seems to have come of it.
Wasn’t that information (the attempted/”assault” charge that disappeared) all ready out for the public to know? Or is TB only interested if the facts that he can spin to make him and his ho-good wife look like the victims?
DaisyMay- don’t despair! Got back to Faux website, at the header there is a spot with Penny’s name, click that. I wish Faux would update the front page, it is very much a turn off.
Huggles.
Pretty sure this Melissa’s rental house:
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/801-Pony-Trl-Franklin-Lakes-NJ-07417/37912688_zpid/
Looks like it’s been a rental property (for ryanmoose as well,) as the tax records are not in ryanmoose’s family name and never were since the house was last purchased in 2003.
http://njparcels.com/property/0220/1606.01/9
Thanks anon! I’m adding it to this blog.
@Fame, I have 2 comments in moderation but all my other posts from yday and today have come up fine, do you know why this is? Thank you 🙂
RHOFW, it’s a certain word that you typed which I have blocked from being discussed here at FW.
@Fame thank you for replying, Sorry I’m a new poster here and didn’t know that word had been blocked,I will remove that word from said posts and try again.
That was me! Jersey G! I guess I didn’t put my info in. Had an issue with my niece (staying with us for most of the summer as a “mother’s helper” but mostly b/c parents were moving clear across the country and her college is 10 minutes away from us – then her roommates for off-campus rental flaked out, so she’s still here until she can find other housing, driving me crazy) and had been using my laptop that I leave in my kitchen and logging in with my JerseyG (because she’s too lazy to go to her room and get her own hand-me-down “outdated”, according to her, computer I gave her until her parents unpack and send her her’s – which I’m sure is in the boxes and boxes she has in my garage) and getting me banned from a site I’ve been a member of since 2002. So I cleared my cache & cookies (my 11 year old helped me). She saw no problem not logging in as herself, thought she could “go to town” with folks in her nasty 19 year old way under MY internet nick. Now I take my laptop to bed with me every night. I love her, but hell no.
RHNJ promos are intentionally misleading.
It has to bug everyone that Teresa doesn’t feel it is HER job to clear her SIL’s name nor does she feel compelled to play that united front crap again (Teresa suggested it twice to Melissa and she took a pass on the suggestion both times. Plus Joey Gorga didn’t step up and assist his wife when she was talking with Jan or Penny either – yet nothing said about that.). And why call Teresa “guilty looking” just because she wants to clear her own name?
The question that won’t be asked during that scene leading up to Joey Gorga’s dramatic murder of an innocent glass scene is WHY doesn’t Melissa want to confront the people who are actively talking about her past/present indiscretions as these are the people who are likely spreading the associated cheating rumors?
Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I don’t know if I clicked on “Post Comment” before I closed out or not! But since I don’t see it, here’s another try:
I think this could possibly be TSILs rental property.
Tax records indicate that it’s been a rental property for a while (ryanmoose’s family also rented).
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MPi6bQZeiXUJ:www.marina.wieder.randrealty.com/agent/2103/Marina-Wieder/NJ/Property/1590598/Franklin-Lakes-NJ-07417/+&cd=17&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Only $3900/month
Thanks JerseyG! I’ll also add it to this blog.
🙂
I actually like this house better than the McMansion.
Address: 8 Pony Trail Franklin Lakes
And if you go to Zillow and put the addy in, use the pan left/right tabs & zoom in (use the +), it looks just like the pic Fame has from the instagram pic.
I picture TSIL galloping down the Pony Trail neigh.
Fitting for Horsey Face, no?
I’m cracking up now … just got the pony trail and one of TSIL’s nickname connection.
pony trail lane….horsey face….last but not least the “horse whipserer” wyatt calling TSIL out…as she did that stupid sexy whore on a stroll to the therapy horse LOL
Ot.. Ive somehow ended up with google chrome as my picture. Not sure how it ended up with my other photo however, I’d like something with a little more….something. Lol. How can I find other options when I go to my wordpress setting? Anyone? Cliff note version please!! 🙂
Dubbalicious – you can double-click on anyone’s Gravatar – use mine if you want – that will bring you to the Gravatar site where you can log in or create a new account if you don’t already have one. Just follow the prompts – it’s easy – if I can figure it out anyone can!!! I hope that helps abit – good luck!!
Ok – so obviously you have a wordpress account – sorry about that! Now once you are in your account, Click on “add new image”. That will bring you to three locations where you can get an image from. Pick from one of those three, copy and paste into the space and then click next – It will help you crop the picture then continue to just follow the prompts.
When you reply to someone/thing click on your picture and it will give you an option to change it, hope it works for you 🙂
That moving pic is so fake,they moved in that home long time ago,Jacko posted a keek video of her picking up her kids at TSIL and TB home in Feb 2013,that home is different from the Mc Mansion. keek.com/!bwxjbab
I’ve just watched and it doesn’t look like any room we’ve seen of the Forga’s on bravo but as you know they lie a lot & will try to claim it was on a room they never film in…
Maybe ask Smack-o-Jac on the off chance the q takes her by surprise and you get a truthful answer?
Looks like the rental house the Whorgas are moving into is literally two minutes away driving time from where it all began – when TSIL saw 146 Pulis Avenue and decided right then and there she was going to jump on that sh*t!! Oh, the memories!
Why yes it is. Its a quiet area but otherwise unremarkable. That immediate area was negatively impacted back in the early 90s when Route 287 was built to extend Route 287 downt from the NY border in Mahwah down to Montville. It rendered many of the properties close to the highway (like TSIL’s rental) less than desirable. I cringe to think that I’ll have a much better chance of running across that little tart in the Stop & Shop or God forbid ShopRite. I’ll just make sure to keep camera at hand at all times.
You could get one of those video cameras that you mount on your head, just in case you might run into her.
Everyone, can we all please refrain from discussing SH and SH comments and commenters on FW. Please take up any issues you have with another blog on that blog. Thank you!
Yes ma’am, I apologize.
Count me in!!
No worries, mzjules!
Yes ma`am, I apologize 2
No worries either, Grand-Beth!
Ok ok, haven’t read the comments but I find it amusing that their “big” house “furnished” from top to bottom can fit in that ity bity truck… maybe it’s the tardus…..
LOL about the tardus 😀
fame , andy cohen is playing dumb on twitter he wont answer the question directly, these tweets are real and still on his page
@Andy andy why did melissa+joe get to record new TH interviews when no one else did? @Teresa_Giudice @melissagorga
Andy Cohen @Andy 6 Sep
@JuStSpiKed what are new TH interviews?
@Andy “talking head interviews” .u can tell melissas was recently filmed, she has her new blonde hair. was the finale changed last minute?
Brie @brienna92 7 Sep
@Andy The housewives confessionals. Melissa’s hair is a different color showing that she did some of her’s recently. @JuStSpiKed
Andy Cohen @Andy 7 Sep
@brienna92 @JuStSpiKed we shoot multiple interviews with everybody through the season
@Andy @brienna92 But you can tell melissa did some of hers where she talks about teresa more recent cause of her blonde hair she just got
Tre Hugger @LuvTreNJuicy 10h
@Andy @brienna92 @JuStSpiKed I am sure it depends on how they want to play the zson #NotRealAfterAll
Dear Fame – I am very sorry if I mispoke yesterday (SH site) in any way or any other time! You are so nice and I never-ever want to offend you.
Does anyone know what the Gorgas owed on their monster house? I am trying to figure out how they can afford to rebuild…..seems he owes lots of people in the area $ and I would think they stilled owed something to the bank. And let’s not forget, he lost his contractor’s license-or maybe just didn’t renew-over a year ago. I kinda think their bravo paychecks go for basic living expenses and all her beauty maintenance of lip injections, botox, filler, hair ext/coloring-and it looks like he might get lip injections too. I’m just thinking they barely broke even with this sale. He had quite a few lawsuits against him as well (construction stuff) and those haven’t been settled best I can tell. Lastly, his poor parents of whom he sold their house right underneath them!!!! No way these 2 shadsters have $$$ for a lot and construction of a new home?
There is nothing/noone lower than ripping off ur elderly/ill/parents hmequity/informin attys bout sis’s spending 4 jail time/discusin these issues in front of lil kids.
Unless, u boast bout ur new book on havin a prfct marriage while we all wait 4 the “:real” 2drop. Looking frwd 2 Mr. Rater’s story, Does any1 know where/when? “…loyal wife, take a page…” Comical! Karma @ wrk!
No way in hell, actually. Do not hold your breath for them to build another hideous Disney-esque monstrosity in Franklin Lakes.
I just saw the preview & its still TSIL is a poor “victim ” & Teresa is the awful jealous one. Disturbing. This site should reach more people-magazines or articles. Oherwise the general public thinks TSIL is sweet & innocent& talented & good mother & wife because BRAVO, Andy, US magazine have created and protected her. The TRUTH needs to get out there. Even her PR people can spin this “rental” into a good financial move….instead of the Truth that they can’t afford the big house!!. I hope Jan & Penny and the exs come forward, as now it just looks like another pathetic attempt by Teresa to take her SIL down ( when we all know its the other way around)
Teresa was close friends with the other ladies until Melissa and Kathy showed up on the scene. What would cause them to suddenly make Teresa the bad guy, change the entire dynamic of the show and have these newcomers have the ability to turn everyone against a longtime trusted friend. Was this a manufactured story line for ratings? I don’t understand who would destroy a close friend for new people you didn’t even know. The whole thing stinks.
It turns out that it was Dina and Teresa that were close, the other women were connected to Dina. Now we can see that Teresa spent all those years giving Jaq attention until Teresa’s life changed, starting with the table flip. Caroline claimed to never have been a friend to Teresa, just an acquaintance. Before Kathy and Melissa showed up, Caroline and Jaq had already started something with Danielle and her relationship with Teresa was broken. Jaq loves to stir up trouble and Caroline helps her.
And, if they had any liens against them, I think those would have to have been paid off from the sale also.
Something fisty about the Montville house. Montville was required by Morris County to do a revaluation of all properties in 2012 to *fair market value*. The house was assessed in 2012 for $3,150,800 – less than the “$3.8” it reportedly sold for. Suprisingly the 2013 assessment is $2,960,300. Is someone really going to pay almost $1 million more than what is considered the fair market value? Very suspect. Then considering the amount the Gruesome Twosome owe on the mortgage – how much are they walking away with $250K??? So they expect to buy a lot and then get a generous consrtuction loan? Something is just not right…
The town I live in always asses at “FMV”. Yet homes do still manage to sell above assessment.
We have the pleasure of being re-assed every darn year. Last year the tax assessor wanted to get in to my house. I had heard through the grapevine that if you have higher end finishes in your house, you would get yourself assessed higher, which would increase property taxes. He has yet to step one foot in my house. Despite the sticky’s left on my door asking for me to make an appointment with him. Never going to happen. Try again next year!
The problem is that when you go to sell your house and a 3rd party appraiser evaluates your home (with high end finishes) and the same square foot house/same lot size house in another neighborhood that is 20 years older than your home, and needs work: it’s used as a comp. Brings the value of your house down appraisal wise.
My neighbor has the same sq. foot house, same size lot and low-end finishes and she should pay less in property taxes than me because I chose to re-do my kitchen & bathrooms and change carpet to hardwoods, etc.?
Since over 70% of my property taxes go to the public school system in my town, if the tax assessment is going to be based on what I have in my house? I have 3 school aged kids and not one has ever set one foot in the township public school system. Let’s work that out.
Rant over!
You know what I also find strange? They had to use their shore house as collateral to secure their $2M + loan when they changed over to a 30 year conventional from the construction/commercial loan used to build Messy’s “dream house”.
If TB owns or is part owner of all of these rental properties in Paterson and the like, and the Gorga’s were doing “so well”…why would the bank have required the shore house be tied in to securing the conventional loan for Messy’s dream home?
My guess would be that the Gorga’s didn’t have enough income to have qualified for their $2M+ loan (that they bumped up to $2.6M – who does that if you’ve got the money to pay your bills?).
The property taxes alone on Messy’s dream house were in the $60K range.
What a change to only have to scrape together $3900 month will be for these two BS’ers.
Why not a $12K per month rental? Or a $20K per month rental? Gotta save up for Messy’s next “dream house” they can’t afford to live in?
I’m sure TSIL and TB are LOVING that full mirrored wall in the family room of their new rental.
To be fair, tax assessments are typically 30% lower than what a property appraiser would price it at, and tax assessment has nothing to do with a mortgage amount or list price. In fact most tax assessments involve some city guy driving down the street and making a guess from his car. Hope that helps…
Then the house isn’t being assessed at FMV with that large of a difference.
Just read Kathy’s blog…
Why do they never comment on other cast members attitude or mistakes or rude moments, like Melissa’s toast? They never call anyone out but Teresa.
Actually I reported it was Johnny Wright the day house sold….and it isn’t bullshit, they did buy 2 lots in Franklin lakes. Obviously you have a problem with me since march/April because you use my tweets and information and either omit my name or add someone else’s name. Is there a problem? I assume it’s b/c I said to Q I would love to know who was behind this site. I said that because I love the sight and would have been great to give you my inside info! but whatever! I think I know who you are because at the same time you dropped me as your follower, yet keep all the members of my group!
belladee, this is the first time ever for you to post a comment on FW (I can search all comments ever posted as well as those I trashed, and you are not in there). I have never dropped anyone as a “follower” and “kept all the members of a group” – I don’t even know what that means (I’m not on twitter or facebook, if that’s what you’re referring to). I have no idea who you are. You must have me mistaken with another blogger. I have never been on your twitter feed, so, to my knowledge, I have never used a tweet from you (when I use a tweet, I clearly credit the person and I never purposely “omit a name or add someone else’s name”). I have read comments on the blogs were people speculated that Johnny Wright bought the Gorga’s house (which is why I wrote, “rumor has it”), but it was not your comment. I have not read any tweets about Johnny Wright buying the Gorga’s house, but I’m sure there are many tweets speculating about it.
that was meant a private message to you. I have no time to go thru site but this is ONE example
https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/the-sleeping-bulldog-has-been-awakened-joe-gorga-sold-his-parents-home-out-from-under-them/ this was my tweet to Bulldog “UR family is suppose 2b the people that teach u right from wrong, not support & encourage bad behavior!”
belladee, I’m sorry, but I didn’t consider your comment to be a private message to me. I replied via a comment because you addressed me via a comment. Had you e-mailed me, I would have responded that way.
When I was working on the blog you linked to above, I copied all tweets from Bryan’s twitter feed during that time period to sort through them, and then I pasted the ones I thought were relevant. I still have the file I copied the tweets into and I found the original tweet in there:
As you can see, it’s easy to mistake that as Bryan’s words, which is why I included it in the list of tweets from him. Had I known that they were your words, and he was just adding “Exactly” to it (I’m not sure, but I think that is what is going on in the copy of that tweet – I could have accidentally deleted something when I was copying, pasting and cleaning up the junk around the tweet), I would not have used the tweet at all (this is why I’m not on Twitter – it gives me a headache trying to sort through the conversations).
I apologize for including it in a list of Byran’s tweets. I just removed it from that blog. I did not intentionally omit you as the author of that tweet and credit it to Bryan.
I’ve never been on your twitter feed, so anything else on my blog that is similar to any of your tweets is just a coincidence. The only tweets I would have read from you would have been on Bryan’s timeline. To make sure I didn’t inadvertently credit Bryan for any more of your tweets, I just did a search for your twitter handle in my file of tweets from Bryan’s timeline – after checking the file and my blog, I can assure you I did not include any other tweets from you, thinking they were Bryan’s words and mistakenly crediting it to him. If you’d like, I can send you the file at the e-mail address you provided.
Dear readers: If you find that I have attributed your tweet or comment incorrectly, please let me know right away and I will fix it immediately. I do not have, nor have I ever had, a Twitter or Facebook account (under famewhorgas or any other name) so it is impossible for me to “follow” anyone. However, I do occasionally check timelines of the cast and their associates, including Heather Maclean, Bryan Bowen, Antony Arater, Penny Drossos, John Karagiorgis, Will Love, and Melissa’s sisters – when I use their tweets, I clearly credit them. If I write something that sounds similar to a tweet from anyone else, it is pure coincidence.
Melissa & Joe Gorga: Frauds Too?
By Star Staff, May 2, 2014
‘RHONJ’ star Melissa Gorga’s new dream home to be ready in a year
November 1, 2013
http://www.examiner.com/article/rhonj-star-melissa-gorga-s-new-dream-home-to-be-ready-a-year
Joe Gorga tweeted a photo of the new dream home to be built in Franklin Lakes:
Joe Gorga @joegorga Jan 14
Here it is! Coming soon. Waiting on permits! #gorgahouse @melissagorga pic.twitter.com/3UYjx3J5P6
The truth about the Gorgas selling their home for the asking price of $3.8 million was revealed in July 2014, just before the season 6 RHONJ premiere.
In August 2013, the Gorgas entered into a lease-purchase agreement with Kai D. Patterson, with an extended close option for the sale of their Montville home for $3.8 million. The Gorgas agreed to one million shares of Patterson’s company, Bounty Alert Inc. (of which 500,000 shares were provided as collateral) and a monthly payment of $20,000 ($10,000 per month in rent, plus $10,000 per month toward the purchase of the property). Per the lease-purchase agreement, the Gorgas, as the owners, are to pay for all repairs on the property, in addition to the mortgage, taxes and insurance.
According to Patterson, the Gorgas asked him to participate in an episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey, where he would say he purchased the house.
Patterson wrote: “I was unaware they used the sale contract to represent to the public the I purchased the house, until I was asked to participate in a Real Housewives episode and represent I purchased the property in February. I declined the offer and explained not only was it dishonest, and anyone could search the real-estate records to confirm otherwise. I told Joe that I would only consider being in an episode if the truth was told about the lease-purchase arrangement, and I never heard anything more about being on the Real Housewives of New Jersey.”
Patterson says that after moving into the property in February 2014, he discovered that Melissa had shut off the gas and electricity to the property when they moved out in September 2013, which caused the pipes to freeze and burst over the winter. The busted pipes caused leaks, which resulted in damage throughout the property and a $4,500 water bill for the Gorgas for the months of October through January (Patterson paid the Gorga’s $4,500 bill so that the water would be turned back on).
Patterson wrote: “At this point, I feel the current condition of the property, the payment of $25,000 towards the purchase, the payment of their water bill, and payment of the faucet [repair] does not warrant the payment of any rent through the month of July 2014, unless repairs are made. I should not be required to pay into purchasing a property unless the repairs are made and the missing items installed [which he details in his written statement]. Since the rent is $10,000 per month, and I paid $25,000 to be applied for repairs, $4,416.60 for the Gorga’s water bill, $650 to fix a faucet, and $250 paid to the Gorga’s plumber (for a total of $30,316.60), I should be entitled to three (3) months credit for the months of May 2014, June 2014 and July 2014. None of these expenses include credits for the month I had no hot water or the funds I spent to stay in hotels to take showers. I don’t think that I should be compelled to make any payments towards the purchase of the property, unless the repairs are made. I also have all of the information to support everything I have disclosed, including phone text messages, pictures, e-mails and documents.”
Patterson wrote on July 15th: “Mr. Gorga has admitted that he purposely did not disclose the pipes had burst on the property, or numerous other problems, because he was angry that I did not take possession of the property in September of 2013. In addition to the problems uncovered in the inspection report, yesterday his attorney represented in court there are no major repairs the property needs, which did not go over very well.”
http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/01/melissa-joe-gorga-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-renter-owes-80-thousand-dollars/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/joe-melissa-gorga-real-housewives-new-jersey-rhonj-tenant-kai-patterson/
The Gorgas now want to evict the tenant for nonpayment and they want to move back into the home in time for the new school year. The judge in the case is allowing the tenant 17 more days if he comes up with $25,000.
NJ.com
July 18, 2014 at 6:57 AM
A Superior Court judge ruled today that a tenant may stay for 17 more days in the Montville mansion he is renting from “Real Housewives of New Jersey” stars Giuseppe “Joe” Gorga and his wife, Melissa, as long as he makes a payment of $25,000.
The Gorgas have been seeking to evict Kai Patterson on grounds he has not been making payments on his $20,000-a-month lease-purchase agreement for the 13,500-square-foot home on 2.24 acres, with a total purchase price of $3.8 million.
Today’s decision by Judge Thomas Manahan to delay the eviction – made about an hour after New Jersey Supreme Court Chief Justice Stuart Rabner announced Manahan’s appointment as an appeals judge, effective Aug. 1 – means the court battle will continue.
Patterson’s attorney, Richard Koppenaal, said he will file a motion for reconsideration of a previous ruling declaring Patterson in default on the agreement.
The Gorgas’ attorney, Frank Catania, contended in court today that Patterson owes a total of $185,000.
Catania offered to let Patterson stay in the house for 17 more days if he could post $50,000. He said the $25,000 Patterson offered and the judge approved was a “small amount” compared to what he owes.
After 17 days have passed, Catania vowed, Patterson will be “evicted from the house.”
“My client has gone three or four months without receiving a thing,” Catania said.
Each side is claiming a hardship in the situation.
Catania said the Gorgas, who have been renting a house in Franklin Lakes, want to return to Montville and “need to be back in the house to register their three children for schools.”
Patterson’s attorney, Richard Koppenaal, questioned the Gorgas’ change of heart about where they plan to live. He pointed out that it was a lease-purchase agreement and if Patterson were to fulfill it, “he buys that house.”
Outside the courtroom later, Joe Gorga and Patterson traded angry criticisms in separate interviews.
“It’s embarrassing,” Gorga said, referring to Patterson’s claims of a hardship over a $20,000-a-month rent. He accused Patterson of “scamming” him.
“There’s people who wake up in the morning and try to make an honest living and people who wake up and think ‘who am I going to screw today’,” Gorga said.
Patterson, who lives in the house with his 79-year-old stepfather, said his dispute with the Bravo channel stars arose after he paid $25,000 for repairs, “in lieu of a security deposit,” but the Gorgas made no repairs. Patterson said he has also paid a $4,416 water bill left by the Gorgas and $20,000 in rent, so given the condition of the house, he was up to date in his payments.
“Mr. Gorga failed to disclose the condition of the property,” Patterson said. He said when he did his final walk-through in February, there were “three to five feet of snow on the ground” so it was difficult to see all the problems.
Patterson has cited numerous problems with the house, including plumbing and heating issues, along with beavers living in crawl spaces. Patterson today cited water leaking from the master bathroom ceiling, “in addition to the other 35 defects found in the inspection report that was conducted last week.”
“I paid for a comfortable, functional and habitable home,” but got none of those qualities, Patterson charged.
Gorga and his attorney declined to comment on the question of repairs, but Gorga claimed Patterson didn’t raise the issue “until we tried to evict him.”
http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2014/07/judge_allows_tenant_to_stay_in_home_owned_by_real_housewives_couple_as_they_make_repairs.html
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Melissa in an interview in October 2013:
“We are currently in Franklin Lakes and we are building a new home right now so it’s going to take a good year to build. We’re renting right now about two miles away from where we’re building so it works out really good and we’re happy. We wanted to get over to Franklin Lakes so that the kids could be in the school system starting in September so we didn‘t have to switch them in the middle of the year. I didn’t want Antonia to get any older before we had to pull her out of one school and switch her into another so we hurried up and we found a house to rent.”
The Gorga’s lied… at the reunion show Andy Cohen straight out asked them: “Your house was sold for the full 3.8 million?” Melissa replied: “Yes, we are now building a house in Franklin Lakes.” If they are building a home in Franklin Lakes, why do they need to go back to Montville to get the kids registered for school? They are renting in FL and building in FL, so register your kids in FL schools – oh wait – the drawing of the new house was fake, building hasn’t started yet, etc., etc.
Kai Patterson Says Gorgas Didn’t Register Mansion As Rental To Keep Up Appearances Regarding Supposed Sale
by Reality Tea on August 17th, 2014
The Gorga mansion purchase and rental saga continues on this week. Kai Patterson is hitting back at Joe Gorga for lying in court, for new leaks in Casa de Beaver and more. He even claims that Melissa and Joe wanted him to swap houses with them.
In a statement from Patterson’s spokesperson, he reiterates that the judge adjourned the eviction case because Joe had failed to register the Montville mansion as a rental. Kai says that Joe claimed in court that he had a friend at the zoning office who told him he didn’t have to register it, but Kai says Joe couldn’t remember that “friend’s” name when the judge asked for a name.
Patterson then blasts them, claiming the reason they didn’t register the home as a rental is because they didn’t want anyone to know that the mansion hadn’t actually sold for the full asking price. In Melissa’s defense, the house was being sold at $3.8 million, just not all at once in a ‘conventional’ type sale… “In August of 2013 when the Gorgas and Mr. Patterson executed the purchase and rental agreements, the Gorgas told the media they had sold their home for the full asking price, but never represented there was a rental agreement that also was also part of the purchase agreement. After falsely represented the home was sold, Joe and Melissa Gorga did not register the home as a rental property because it would have immediately exposed their home was also being leased under the purchase agreement.”
Kai is also irritated that Melissa and Joe claim the rent to be $20K when it’s really “only” $10K. “In the complaint Joe Gorga filed on June 10, 2014, he represented the rent required in the lease each month was $20,000 and that a total of $80,000 was owed at the time the complaint was filed.”
Patterson, for some reason, got yet another inspection on the home and it revealed a new issue with a leak in the master bedroom. “A new inspection conducted on August 13, 2014 has disclosed an additional leak in the master bathroom of the mansion, in addition to the 35 defects disclosed in the initial report on July 7, 2014 Today, Kai Patterson has issued a demand letter that requires the Gorgas to make all outstanding repairs within 7 days under the default provisions of the purchase agreement.”
He also says the Gorgas lied about starting construction on the new dream house. “In September 2013, the Gorgas stated they sold their home and were starting construction on a new home in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey. However, no permits were ever filed for construction in Franklin Lakes by the Gorgas.”
Also noteworthy: Kai claims the Gorgas wanted to swap houses. “Today in court, their attorney asked Patterson’s attorney, Richard Koppenaal if Patterson would be willing to switch houses with the Gorga rental property in Franklin Lakes, and Patterson refused the offer.”
Patterson claims this whole eviction mess is because Joe and Melissa don’t want to make the repairs on the mansion. Patterson said through his spokesperson, “They initially stated they sold the property without disclosing the lease agreement. They failed to register the property as a rental property to prevent disclosing the lease agreement. They filed court documents without including the addendums that reduced the amount of rent. They failed to disclose the additional damages to the property when I took possession in February that did not exist in September of 2013, which were caused by Mr. Gorga failing to winterize the property. Now they want me to inconvenience myself and move to accommodate them, so they can look good on a reality show.”
“Every time we go to court, we win and I am happy the Judges can see through their misrepresentations. How do you represent the township’s zoning officer was your friend, and told you it was not a requirement to register the property as a rental property, but you can’t remember the officer’s name when Judge Taylor asks you his name on the record,” says Patterson. The demand letter and default provisions within the purchase and lease agreements require the Gorgas make all of the repairs a week before we are due back in court.”
Kai Patterson Now Wants Out Of His Rental and Purchase Agreement With Joe And Melissa Gorga
by Reality Tea on September 6th, 2014