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Monica Chacon, Kim G and Danielle Staub Shared a Table at the Season 2 Posche Fashion Show; Nancy Grace Predicts the Giudices Will Go to Jail

October 29, 2013

In July 2010, Frank of Ranus Reviews interviewed Kim D and Alina, her buyer, after the Posche Fashion Show in season 2 premiered.

This is my interview with Kim D and Alina from the Posche Boutique in Wayne, NJ. We talked all about Danielle and the Posche fashion show. Learn what Kim D did before Posche and what the hell she was thinking when she interrupted Teresa at her housewarming party. I also asked her if the drama on the show is real, if the NJ Housewives have set the bar in the drama department, if she is concerned about Danielle taking boxing lessons, if she thinks Danielle pulled out her own hair extensions, if she bought Danielle’s crying, her relationship with Kim G and much more!

In the interview, Kim D conveys that within a year after opening Posche in Wayne, NJ, she was on international TV because of RHONJ, and explained that “the worldwide televised fashion show” in season 2 was “our first one.” Kim D refers to Danielle Staub as “the big D” or “the dirty D.” She claims that Danielle “was an acquaintance that I’ve known for a year from her shopping here, that’s it,” and elaborates that she was clearly making friends with Teresa and Jacqueline at the time.

As far as the Posche fashion show (PFS) in season 2, she explains that Kim G bought a table and asked Danielle to sit with her; however, Danielle was two hours late but they (and the 230 guests) waited for her, which is why the show lasted from 6:30 PM to about midnight.

Kim D expresses her opinion about why Teresa made a point to confront Danielle after the show: “I think that Teresa had had enough with all this talk behind her back, the talk about the house [being in foreclosure]. Now what I heard through the grapevine is that the big D made friends with an enemy of Joe – the attorneys that have something to do with what’s going on with the house – and brought her [Monica Chacon] to my fashion show to kind of needle Teresa, and Teresa saw her. I think Teresa wanted to get in her face and say, ‘Listen, you want to talk behind my back. Lets say it face-to-face, women-to-women.’ Danielle can’t do that.”

Note from Fame: Melissa was contacting Danielle during this time period – trying to worm her way onto the show by giving Danielle dirt on Teresa and offering to film with her to expose Teresa – so it is possible that Melissa introduced Danielle to Monica. However, I think it is more likely that Kim G is responsible for Monica being at the table she bought for the season 2 PFS.

When Danielle was a guest on WWHL on September 9, 2013, she was shown clips of what the current Housewives said about her during their appearances on the show. On Melissa saying Danielle in-boxed her on Facebook about the sprinkle cookies and that she never met her in person, Danielle said:

“Well, the one truth in there is that we did never meet; however, it was because I wouldn’t allow that to happen. She wanted to film during season 2, and she thought it would be a good way to get back at Teresa. And I said I wanted absolutely nothing to do with that, however, I would forward all her e-mails, which were a lot, to the producers, which I did. Which is how, after two seasons of her being behind the scenes – on camera but behind the scenes – she all the sudden became a person of interest and that’s how she landed on the show. Um, I think that it would be good for her to just come clean. I wanted nothing to do with what she wanted to do to Teresa. It’s not my place. I don’t play with that. Karma has a return policy and it isn’t an exchange.”

Lee on May 15, 2012 said at AllAboutTRH.com:

“Teresa’s bankruptcy was exposed by Danielle at the 1st Posche fashion show when she said Teresa’s house was in foreclosure (Melissa fed Danielle this information, which was a lie). After that episode aired, the wave of articles on the web and in the magazines started. Monica Chacon, whose husband was the lawyer representing Joe Giudice’s partner, fed a lot of dirt to Kim G,and she in turn fed it to Danielle and the bloggers. When they were ready to film season 3, Teresa was forced to talk about it because the producers invited Monica to the 2nd Posche Fashion show (season 3 episode 2 – she sat with Melissa, her sisters, Kathy Wakile and Kim G) and the Gorga’s Christmas party (season 3 episode 10 – she came with Kim G but was invited by Melissa and producers). Remember when Monica introduced herself to Melissa and Kathy as the lawyer suing Teresa. Let’s not forget, the Wakiles and the Gorgas were asked to be on the show if they would address Teresa’s personnel finances.”

On Kim G, Kim D describes her as “my sister-in-law.” She says she introduced Danielle to Kim G at Danielle’s luncheon because Danielle wanted to met her because of “her means.” She remarks that Kim G is kind of a people pleaser – and even though she did “play both sides,” she didn’t mean any harm; she just wants to have fun.

Kim D accuses Danielle of doing things to her and her business, but says she doesn’t want to discuss it, but declares that “we Sicilians don’t forgot!” She tells the interviewer that she wants to be nice and cool and mysterious.

Kim D reveals that at Teresa’s housewarming party, she didn’t interrupt her but was physically pushed by someone from Bravo and, “once pushed up there, she had to say something because she knew exactly what they wanted” – “but I do love Teresa and Joe and their house.”

Kim D thinks 90% of the show is real and says there’s a “little provoking but not staged drama.” She explains that the producers wanted the drama yet didn’t expect what they got at the first PFS, but they were thrilled.

She asserts that Posche has never done better since the first PFS aired.

Hat Tip: Thank you pjbottoms for reminding me about this interview.

On October 28, 2013, Nancy Grace appeared on WWHL and predicted that the Giudices will be convicted and go to prison because the charges are “founded” and “they were in it together” and “you don’t mess with the feds.”

Nancy Grace said:

“Don’t mess with the feds when it comes to money. Never mess with the tax man. Never mess with the feds. Alright, they have no mercy. I predict they’re going down. And [as] much as Martha Stewart was used, I think they will be used as an example to other people.”

“Did she sign her name on those documents? Did they get money from banks loans, etc. from signing those documents? Did they, Andy, did they?!”



In a related story, according to NJ.com, Joe Giudice will go to trial for state forgery charges on November 19, 2013.

  1. October 29, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Other bloggers are reporting on Nancy Grace’s appearance on WWHL and her predicting that the Giudices will be convicted and go to prison because the charges are “founded” and “they were in it together” and “you don’t mess with the feds.”

    Nancy Grace said:

    “Don’t mess with the feds when it comes to money. Never mess with the tax man. Never mess with the feds. Alright, they have no mercy. I predict they’re going down. And [as] much as Martha Stewart was used, I think they will be used as an example to other people.”

    “Did she sign her name on those documents? Did they get money from banks loans, etc. from signing those documents? Did they, Andy, did they?!”



    • suedechik79
      October 29, 2013 at 3:31 PM

      I knew that was part of the message – “Don’t mess with the Feds.” Now confirmed by an international media talking head, paid to talk about approved topics in an approved manner. Tsk tsk.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 29, 2013 at 7:26 PM

        Nancy Grace is a nasty piece of shit on par with Wendy Williams and sophisticated, yet diabolically evil, life and family destroyer, Andy Cohen.

        • suedechik79
          October 30, 2013 at 7:14 AM

          Everyone on TV serves to give us stuff to squabble about, meaningless stuff, while programming us to be obedient, law fearing citizens. Ok with having little to no work, little to no money, no overtime, no retirement, death panels – its all a program to turn the next generation into obedient cogs in the globalist system that they want to create. Its just the way the “fed” wants it. The “fed”, of course, being the largest crime syndicate in our country – the Federal Reserve. Created by the Ashkenazi Jewish family of Rothschilds in the 1700s (under a different name), the 20 year banking charter forced the US to accept money printed by an outside, UNRULED bank at high interest rates (nstead of printing our own money at NO interest rate – who gains from that? NOT THE BANKS). When Congress didn’t renew the charter, Nathan Mayer Rothschild issued a threat: “Either the application for renewal of the charter is granted, or the United States will find itself involved in a most disastrous war.” The next year, England (backed by Rothschild money) declared war on the United States (War of 1812). 4 years later, a new charter was signed. Coincidence? You certainly will not be taught these things in school. I never even heard wind of the Rothschild name, and they have their hands in every single country’s banking system save for 2. You never learn who funds wars, who holds the money. Why start children on a path to questioning the reality of our truth, our monetary system?

          Now, backing wars and happily slaughtering humans merely to put a stranglehold on a country’s financial system was the name of the game in the 1800s, what do we think the name of the game is today? What is terrorism, then? Just a new, modern war used only to justify stripping us of rights which NO ONE NEEDED TO GIVE US IN THE FIRST PLACE. We are human, just being born should be enough to the “right” to a prosperous life. That aside, it is now in the fanatical desire for a global community of filthy rich haves and obedient, unquestioning have nots, that it has been decided that our rights need to be publically reviled and politically destroyed.

          Pursuing people like Joe and Theresa is absolute insanity when the banking institutions they have supposedly wronged and lied to lie to ALL of America and have since our creation. We are a nation gone apathetic and silent to these criminals, supported by politicians at every corner. We keep waiting for saviors, and while we wait, our coffers are robbed dry. Screw it, I support the whole cast in whatever endeavors they embarked on to generate revenue for them and their families. Good for them.

          Mayer Amschel Rothschild:”Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Our votes don’t matter, we have no true independence, our system will support corruption and criminal behavior until the Federal Reserve is no more.

          • suedechik79
            October 30, 2013 at 7:23 AM

            May I add, 3 out of the 4 Presidential assassinations/assassination attempts relate directly to that Presidents opposition to the Federal Reserve.

            You can, in fact, mess with the fed, but not if you appear to be one of our nations leaders. That position demands complete and total obedience to the banking system. Kennedy was the last President to sign an executive order to halt the Reserve’s charter, 6 months later he was dead and his executive order was immediately reversed by his successor, who probably got the message and liked staying alive.

            All of the high ranking politicians are complicit in supporting these criminals, and spend time investigating our own citizens for supposed crimes (violating laws dictated by politicians which are controlled by banks). Its enough to make someone go mad.

            • Anonymous
              October 30, 2013 at 9:33 AM

              You sound like an anti-Semite. How do you know the author of this blog and/or some of the readers are not Jewish?

              • October 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM

                What suedechik is saying is that the Rothschilds are Khazars and not actual descendants of biblical Jews. From what I read: The Rothschilds, and most other Ashkenazi Jews, are descended from the Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D. They don’t originate from biblical Israel, but from a Sumerian people who became known as the ‘Khazars’ in what became southern Russia and the Caucasus Mountains.

                Revelation 2:9

                I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

                Revelation 3:9

                Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

                • danadoll007
                  October 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM

                  Exactly!!! Fame, you are very smart and correct. Not anti-semitism at all!

                • October 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM

                  Perhaps, but I do think it’s odd that suedechik called out the religious belief of the family, suggesting that it was relevant to what followed. I am not Jewish but do think the religious slant to this site makes me a bit uncomfortable. All due respect and love to those of all faiths, but I personally never thought this was the place to assert it.

                  I could never leave this site because I am such a fan of you, Fame, and so so so many of the commenters. And I believe in the stated purpose of seeking and exposing the truth. You have created an amazing site here with the most intelligent, well-spoken, funny, and insightful “membership” and I love it.

                  I hope I am not out of line with my comments, because some of my most favorite contributors have expressed religious sentiment or cited scripture on this site, and I obviously adore them all!

                • October 30, 2013 at 9:54 PM

                  Hi Fame. This is my first post but I have been reading your blog for the last year and catching up not only on new posts, but old posts as well. Your research is amazing and so thorough and you have been able to shine a light on what has happened to Tre and Juicy in most eloquent and understandable manner. I do take some offense to the comment made by suedechik mentioning the Rothschilds as “Jews” as to someone of the Jewish faith as myself, do see it as an anti-semetic comment. I appreciate your explanation of/and clarification of her comment. It is not just because I am Jewish because I was married to a Catholic man for 20 years prior to divorcing and my own two children have not embraced either of our religions. They are free to embrace whatever religion they believe in or not, for that reason. My oldest son married a woman of Hindu faith. Her parents were immigrants from India, but she herself was born in the US. At their wedding, we gave homage to all of our faiths as it should be, in my opinion. I also wanted to make a further explanation about the Rothschild who as you said were Ashkenazi Jews. Again, suedechik’s explanation is not accurate and while she may have been trying to give an explanation for the state of our International financial affairs, there is much more to it than the Rothschilds. We live in a military imperialist country which initiates wars for the purpose of making the rich richer, creating jobs for the rich to make them richer, and cause horrendous pillage of civilians in the process. Just as a better and more succinct explanation of the rothschilds, I did copy and paste the explanation from Wiki as it explains more accurately than either I or your other poster could do with a rich explanation of why banks were actually established. The Rothschild did not create the Federal Reserve.

                  “Court Jew, also court factor (German: Hofjude, Hoffaktor) is a term, typically applied to the early modern period, for historical Jewish bankers who handled the finances of, or lent money to, European royalty and nobility. In return for their services, court Jews gained social privileges, including in some cases being granted noble status for themselves.
                  Examples of what would be later called court Jews emerged in the High Middle Ages, when the royalty, the nobility, and the church borrowed money from money changers—among the most notable are Aaron of Lincoln and Vivelin of Strasbourg—or employed them as financiers. Jewish financiers could use their family connections, and connections between each other, to provision their sponsors with, among other things, finance, food, arms, ammunition, gold, and precious metals.[citation needed]
                  The rise of the absolute monarchies in Central Europe brought numbers of Jews, mostly of Ashkenazi origin, into the position of negotiating loans for the various courts. They could amass personal fortunes and gain political and social influence. However, the court Jew had social connections and influence in the Christian world mainly through the Christian nobility and church. Due to the precarious position of Jews, some nobles could ignore their debts. If the sponsoring noble died, his Jewish financier could face exile or execution. The most famous example of this process occurred in Württemberg, when—after the death of his sponsor Charles Alexander in 1737—Joseph Süß Oppenheimer was put on trial and finally executed.[1] In an effort to avoid such fate, some court bankers in the late 18th century—such as Samuel Bleichröder, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, or Aron Elias Seligmann—successfully detached their businesses from these courts and established what eventually developed into full-fledged banks.”

                • November 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM

                  don’t know if you are correct, I believe that genetic testing has settled this –

              • October 30, 2013 at 5:13 PM

                No she does not-well not to me. She is just stating the facts.

              • IhateAndy
                October 31, 2013 at 5:00 AM

                I consider myself to be a highly sensitive reader and there are comments at timesI do not feel comfortable with either. However, I overlook them and focus on reading comments and Fames articles I do find interesting (investigations and behind the scene stuff). Comments about the NJ HW’s appearances always made me feel uncomfortable, but I believe everyone is free to express themselves. As a sensitive reader, I do not feel these comments were anti-semetic or overtly religious in any sense. Each to their own, but I felt it was respectfully explained and factual based. It’s OK to express ourselves outside the box with respect and thought. After all, thats why I love simply reading the comments as the readers seem to comment with thoughtfulness and consideration in mind. I don’t think these comments were in any way anti-semetic.

                Personally for me, I was pleasantly surprised that you guys are discussing the Fed Reserve and the money system. Its so great to come here and be stimulated by bigger and more important topics triggered by the show. Such a unique blog and I sure missed it when it was down for a few days.

            • October 30, 2013 at 10:00 AM

              That’s so interesting regarding JFK! The 50th anniversary of JFK’S death is on Nov. 22, 2013. I have read many, many conspiracy theories about JFK’s death and the one about JFK giving a speech about “secret societies” a month before his passing seems to make sense now. Here’s part of his speech:

              “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence…” stated Kennedy.

              “It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly-knit, highly-efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

              “Its preparations are concealed not published. It’s mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.”

              John F. Kennedy was silenced shortly after this speech. His wife beside him; he would never see his little boy or girl again.

              What is the saying, “Money is the root of all evil….” Thanks for the post, Suedechik79!

              • October 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

                Suedechik, my first sentence should have read: “That is so interesting regarding ASSASINATIONS.” I had JFK on my mind!

                • October 30, 2013 at 5:26 PM

                  Oh yes @cee-this has always made be believe with all my heart that Oswald was indeed just a patsy. The most interesting facts about this speech in my opinion was that he was giving it to
                  ******The American Newspaper Publishers Association********
                  He warned of a coming shadow government and how the press must be truthful and warn people. So they killed him 😦

                  • momajackie
                    October 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM

                    According to the woman who loved him, Judyth Vary Baker, he was CIA and he knew he was being set up.

                    • Silvana
                      October 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

                      It does make sense now. I always thought the mafia where behind the assassination of JFK maybe it just wast the Italian mafia that did it.

                  • October 30, 2013 at 9:57 PM

                    I’m not sure which channel I was watching, History (?), but they did a documentary about Lee Harvey Oswald and it was very, very interesting. Talk that Mr. Oswald was, indeed, working for the CIA was covered. IF the theory is true about JFK telling the media to remain truthful makes me wonder how many reporter’s followed his advice? If so, how many lost their lives?

                    • black enga
                      October 30, 2013 at 11:55 PM

                      Many were silenced for trying to bring out the truth

              • October 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM

                The saying is the LOVE of money is the root of all evil!

                • October 30, 2013 at 5:29 PM

                  That is right.

                • October 30, 2013 at 9:59 PM

                  Thanks! I’m horrible when repeating sayings/phrases. Kind of like Tre when she said, “I’ll be as a calm as a cucumber” and Kim D. corrected her by saying, “It’s cool as a cucumber!” See, I thought Tre was correct!

              • momajackie
                October 30, 2013 at 7:26 PM

                You need to read Dr. Mary’s Monkey. It is written by a family friend of Dr. Mary Sherman. I am still reading Me and Lee, by Judyth Vary Baker. She has a lot of pictures (of people socializing together) of people the Warren Commission claims did not know each other, newspaper articles that back up the story she is telling. I believe both of these books are merely scratching the surface of what is the bigger plan. But I totally believe what I am reading in these books.

                • Silvana
                  October 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

                  Moma that sounds a lot like RHONJ people claiming they don’t know each other when in fact they do:-)

              • DebbieD
                October 31, 2013 at 1:27 PM

                It’s the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

          • danadoll007
            October 30, 2013 at 10:17 AM

            YES, suedechik79!!! When people refer to the FED or the feds, I don’t think most people have any idea who they are talking about exactly. The Federal Reserve. It’s a private company and it is an evil, evil satan and is taking over all of us and destroying us.

            • October 30, 2013 at 5:28 PM

              Bingo!!!! Most do not even know that they have control over our money and they are not even a part of our government in any way. JFK wanted to do away with the fed.

              • October 30, 2013 at 5:53 PM

                The Federal Reserve-that is!

          • October 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM

            Suede, I just started reading Greedy Bastards by Dylan Ratigan and it talks a lot about the banking debacle in easy to understand terms. Just started reading it, but I highly recommend it!

      • October 30, 2013 at 6:15 AM

        GREAT comment!

    • Sharon
      October 29, 2013 at 11:06 PM

      My opinion Nancy Grace’s opinion is “meh”.

      • October 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

        When Nancy Grace has someone’s back it seems to hurt their case. Like Caylee Anthony and Trayvon Martin. So, maybe it’s a good thing, for the Giudice’s, that Nancy Grace seems to be taking up for the FEDS?

        • pinkie
          November 6, 2013 at 5:13 AM

          Nancy Grace is a media employee, so she is doing what shes paid to do, create an emotional response. I do not like how our judicial system has become another enterprise for media consumption. I like the guidices so I don’t like to hear negative things about them. but when you look at how we invest ourselves into the TV coverage of trials. Makes the accused celebrities who can be chopped and dices before serving them up, and I believe this helps the system make convictions,,, (sometimes). But is it justice. We are told in this country that ppl are innocent until proven guilty, but you would never know it by watching Nancy Grace or reading blogs. And I admit, that its a natural thought, if there is smoke there is fire. but we forget that many jobs and social influence is provided by the policestate/prison system-big media. Without raising doubt, and making convictions THEY can’t pay the bill.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 30, 2013 at 6:17 PM

      I’m not really certain what to think but I don’t think Nancy Grace was trying to be negative. Fact is, government are the biggest crooks in the country and it’s really a damned shame. We as a country have given the politicians too much power. Anyway… I’m drifting too far from the subject. It’s my understanding that Teresa and Joe were going to several banks claiming several occupations for each bank they went to, Teresa claimed to be some corporate somebody for each loan she applied and signed for. Joe did the same. Then after they got all these high dollar loans from the banks, they immediately filed bankruptcy. I could be wrong but this is how “I Myself” gathered the information. So, “I Think” this is also why Teresa is facing charges of her own. She entered several banks, she applied under several occupations and she signed and did receive several loans.
      As for Joe using his partner’s signature, I think the partner was held accountable to pay that loan. So, it’s like having a friend receive a loan in your name, and one day you go to the mailbox, and you start receiving phone calls from bill collectors demanding that you pay back the loan you received. You’re baffled and angry because collectors are threatening to take your paychecks, your home, car. etc. So, I can’t blame Joe’s business partner for being pissed off. I mean, the Giudice’s are building additions to their home, and buying shore homes
      and you’re screwed paying for the price of a shore home, without receiving a home, but a bill instead.
      This is my understanding of what has gone down. Don’t hesitate to jump in and explain it better to me, I can take it. lol

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 30, 2013 at 6:36 PM

        Oh, I forgot…
        I think Teresa and Joe were in desperate moments at the time when they got the loans. Now that Teresa is doing better, she and Joe should be given an opportunity to pay off what they owe. Even if that means selling their shore home. I know they were given that opportunity once, but as far as I’m concerned, Nobody Should Go To Prison Over Money Loaned By A Bank. I believe prisons should be kept to house violent people. Not people who got loans or cheated the IRS. I would rather save that space for people like charles Manson.

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 31, 2013 at 1:06 AM

          Believe it or not, I think Joe may still have a chance to make things right. Maybe he should check himself into some clinic? Maybe he needs to contact a finance manager, sell his shore home, try to make things right and he may actually have something to show the Judge that he’s trying to turn things around and make his wrongs, right. Instead of telling the Judge he’s made a mistake, he could plea with the Judge for another chance. He can say, “Look Judge, I got therapy, I have a new manager, I’ve sold portions of my property and facing this court has made me realize the seriousness of my actions. I wish a chance to prove myself and make everything right.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 31, 2013 at 5:03 PM

        Okay, forget my comment above. My husband explained this to me. He said that the banks don’t involve the feds in this sort of matter. The banks seek compensation by confiscating property and valuable possessions. Which is what they did do to Teresa and Joe. So, Sorry For My Ignorance, and wasting all this space.

  2. black enga
    October 29, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    I guess if Andy gets enough people to say it, it’s going to be true. Don’t mess with the feds. WOW! We all know how she has her, guilty because she says so, way of journalism going on.

    Didn’t Rosie say something similar about her own cousin?

    He is dead set on them going to jail and he is going to get anyone he can to agree with him

    This is just another example of someone being proven guilty by the media without the benefit of a trail.

    • Sylvia smith
      October 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM

      Yes, Raging Rhino Rosie, or Triple R, did say of her cousin’s legal problems, “the government doesn’t make things up.” To me, that statement is affirming that she believes Teresa and Joe are guilty. She crawled out of the woodwork and rode Andy’s gay train like a performing monkey in a freak show.. I vacillate between them, but right now, Triple R gets my vote as the most backstabbing POS on the show.Why? Because on one hand she pretends to be Joe’s BFF while condemning his family with the other.

      • cass
        October 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM

        Glad you said that Sylvia. I have never been able to figure out why Juicy puts up with her! Your statement about riding the gay train is also very true. I have always held to the fact that Mandy will promote anything gay. Have you ever noticed that every HW show has to have a token gay or five on there and they are always supporting some kind of gay rally.

        • Sylvia smith
          October 29, 2013 at 10:32 PM

          And I think he exploits stereotypes. Triple R is the last person on eatht he would have as a close friend. She doesn’t know she’s being used and ridiculed because her own family has done that for so long she’ll gnaw on any bone, no pun intended, thrown her way. There’s so much insulting homophobic innuendo tossed about between the Gorgas, Chris Laurita, the Manzo “boys” and Rich. But whose feet does Andy try to hold to the fire for perceived gay bashing? Joe Guidice, the one person on the show that accepts everyone with an open heart.

          • October 30, 2013 at 6:25 AM

            You are sooo right! The comments coming from TB and Bitchie make Joe Guidice look like Mother Teresa! Remember that nasty Hot-Tub Heather creature? That scene was vomit inducing 😦 The Wakiles are crooks and are nothing like the way they try to represent themselves on the show!

          • adioslunatic
            October 30, 2013 at 6:44 AM

            @Sylvia Great comment, ITA.

          • pinkie
            November 6, 2013 at 5:19 AM

            sylvia, love this comment . I am very repelled at the sterotypes, which is expliotation

    • October 29, 2013 at 8:32 PM

      The more they talk about Teresa and Joe, the better the chances they will prejudice a jury.

      • October 30, 2013 at 6:26 AM

        It seems they will stop at nothing!

  3. kitty
    October 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Nancy Grace is an “entertainer” who’s apparently forgotten what she learned in law school re: “due process”. But then, she’s made a very lucrative career out of sensationalizing cases in the court of public opinion for her own [substantial] gain. She stated the obvious — everyone knows you don’t mess with the Feds, and if the Giudices are found guilty of any or all of the charges, they’ll pay the price. But sheesh, let this play out in the courtroom — and NOT in Andy’s Clubhouse.

    • suedechik79
      October 29, 2013 at 7:08 PM

      The Federal Reserves henchmen shouldn’t have nearly as much power as they do. There shouldn’t even be an international bank running our economy. Its an insane globalist concept that people should be challenging and thinking about more than they do.

  4. October 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Nancy Grace is a sanctimonious bitch who cuts off people who don’t agree with her, I can’t stand her and she never met anybody who wasn’t guilty. Why is she even talking about rhonj anyway. Get a life. Andy Cohen is a terrible, terrible man and he better pray Teresa doesn’t go to jail, because that show will fail immediately without her presence and RHOM is so dreadful it is about to be cancelled. AGAIN. All of Bravo programing is dreadful. I would venture to say that I dream of NeNe was a flop, because I know I am sick to death of fake weddings. With real housewives as bridesmaids. It’s a joke. He is a joke. WWHL is a terrible, terrible show, I wouldn’t watch it if you paid me. And that’s not a red tide on his penis and lips, fellas, so stay away. I do believe he is starting a new plague on a certain stretch of the Hamptons all by himself. Maybe if Albie had blown him in Season 1 he wouldn’t be such a bitter old queen.

    • patriciafromco
      October 29, 2013 at 4:31 PM

      LOL geesie “” And that’s not a red tide on his penis and lips, fellas, so stay away. I do believe he is starting a new plague on a certain stretch of the Hamptons all by himself. “”

      am so happy I am not out there dating in the world that is around us now,,, I thought STD had something to do with a florist,, I know what it means now … lol… you just cracked me ,, I would be eaten alive in the dating world…

      • October 30, 2013 at 10:45 AM

        Me. too. I’d become a nun or dip my partners in bleach first.

        • patriciafromco
          October 30, 2013 at 4:53 PM


    • October 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM

      awesome comment — lol, hilarious! and agreed on all counts.

    • LifeIsGood
      October 29, 2013 at 4:46 PM

      I can’t comment on Nene because I never watched her, but I couldn’t agree more with your comments about Andy and Nancy! 😆

    • October 29, 2013 at 8:33 PM

      I love this post. Thank you for the laugh.

    • Sharon
      October 29, 2013 at 11:08 PM

      As always Gessie nails it!

    • October 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

      Just love you Gessie!!

  5. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 29, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Ahhh Gessie – your comments are always a bright spot in my day!

  6. black enga
    October 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    I am amazed at the people that he gets to come on his show to bash Teresa, Bravo pockets must indeed be very deep and far reaching.

    By the way Saddle and gessie, your killing me over hear,lol.

    I don’t watch Bravo anymore either and could care less whose marrying who. I really don’t watch TV much at all. To many talking heads, commercials, and false information being shoved down my throat, it just sounds like noise to me.

    In my spare time I watch DVD’s, movie feeds, surf the internet or just read this blog to entertain myself lately.

    • black enga
      October 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM

      I guess I could read “the most misspelled words” book that I have laying around to bush up,lol

      *too instead of to, *you’re instead of your, *here instead of hear. (sigh)

      I swear sometimes I cant spell my way out of a paper bag.

      Thank you guys for putting up with me though. ((((HUGS))))

      • black enga
        October 29, 2013 at 5:23 PM

        *brush, see what I mean. Ahhhh, the joys of motherhood and aging gracfully! First the knees then it’s all down hill from there……

        • October 30, 2013 at 6:43 AM

          Love it…. a big LOL at “bush up”…we all do it.

      • Sharon
        October 29, 2013 at 11:15 PM

        No problemo. It used to bother me on the blogs but lately I find that I can whiz right thru most things with no problem. And then the other night I goofed up 6 times in 2 sentences. <<Karma!
        A lot of our English words were taken from other cultures and totally bastardised (<spelled wrong?) anyway. and ((HUGS)) back at ya.

        • black enga
          October 30, 2013 at 1:54 AM

          Thank you Sharon 🙂

    • suedechik79
      October 29, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      Comcast owns NBC which owns Universal Pictures

      • October 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM

        NBC is owned by General Electric Corp. who couldn’t give a crap about t.v. unless it is t he expansion of telemundo. They sank all of their money into home green energy schemes. What they failed to anticipate is that the economy would crash and people don’t have the money of the inclination to install fifty solar panels on their roof so they could be green. Hence the emphasis on reality t.v. and underpaid actors who will work on a five hour (or is it six?) morning show. Trying to cut corners to stay in the red.

        • October 30, 2013 at 5:40 PM

          I did not know this-a lot is really starting to add up now.

    • October 29, 2013 at 8:44 PM

      I do not believe it is the Bravo pockets being deep and far reaching, Andy’s guest are desperate for attention. I suppose they believe any attention is better than no attention.


      • black enga
        October 30, 2013 at 12:37 AM

        I guess that is another way of looking at it momajckie, I thought some of them (Oprah, Lady Ga Ga), must have been paid or owed a huge favor to Bravo. I still cant believe that they actually went on his show.

        • adioslunatic
          October 30, 2013 at 6:48 AM

          @ BE
          He gets those that relevance is dwindling. Opraaaaah and Gag-a are like sinking ships grasping at anything that they can to stay relevant and above water.

          • October 30, 2013 at 6:54 AM

            Wanting to stay relevant in my vote too…or selling something!

            • pinkie
              November 6, 2013 at 5:27 AM

              yes,,,both are polling downward, O was advised, begged and bribed to be on. And of course there were plenty of taboo topics with her. andy played lapdog and didn’t push, O has more money than he does. And she does bite, ask those who still have the scars.

        • October 30, 2013 at 6:53 AM

          I do not believe they are paid to appear on this show. I could be wrong, most are just ‘selling’ something. A show, a book, something.

        • October 30, 2013 at 7:26 AM

          Since I do not watch Andy’s show any longer, I forgot about those two. I just remember having to “Google” the names of most of his guests and I still did not know who they were.

          • black enga
            October 30, 2013 at 6:01 PM

            Lol, momajackie I don’t watch him either (only the one on one with the Giudices), he is so annoying to me. I don’t really keep up with Oprah or Lady Ga Ga . I only see her running around half naked every once in awhile on awards shows and Oprah at the Dr. office on her mag cover, didn’t really know they were tanking lately.

            Thanks for the info, you too aaacccp and audioslunatic!

  7. October 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Calls made on WWHL are screened, so shame on Andy for always having anyone/everyone he can find comment on the Guidice’s situation! It’s like he’s setting them up to be found guilty! Lets just let the courts do want needs to be done! We all have our own opinion and Nancy Grace is very opinionated! Andy is nothing but an asshole for many reasons!

    • Anonymous
      October 30, 2013 at 12:11 AM

      I put Nacy Grace up there with Bozo the clown. She is only for rating, very few facts with her, only her opinion……which most the time sucks. She worries more about her make up than the truth, but it pays her so she happy. She does not stand for truth.

      • cass
        October 30, 2013 at 4:17 PM

        My first experience with Nancy Grace was after the Arias trial. I was so shocked at how she treated her guests. How does she even get people to come onto her show? It is mystery to me! Also, at the end of her show she does some fake crying about our troops and sometimes about her kids. Seriously she us a psycho looking to ride on people’s misfortunes for a dime She is sickening to say the least!!

        • momajackie
          October 30, 2013 at 7:42 PM

          She still has a show?

      • October 30, 2013 at 6:58 PM

        LMAO!!!!! I read all the comments for moments like this.

      • Anonymous
        October 30, 2013 at 7:07 PM

        oh my word im shocked that you all think this of ophpra I love her I didn’t know she was sinking ,im saddenedgosh I havnt hardly watched anything for almost a yr.

      • momajackie
        October 30, 2013 at 7:40 PM

        Pre-dinner wine all over my computer screen. Thanks for the laugh.

  8. Grand-Beth
    October 29, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Maybe we need to look at AndyAssholes background to see WHAT he has done in his past……. besides being Asshole!!!!!!

    • black enga
      October 29, 2013 at 8:44 PM

      Honey you would be surprised, if he ever makes Ne Ne mad he’s in trouble. Ever notice how much he goes to Atlanta and how she gets away with murder on the show?

      He is so bitter because all of his friends are in serious relationships and he’s not. Maybe if he were a better person he’d find a better mate.

      • Sharon
        October 29, 2013 at 11:20 PM

        OMG, I wasn’t going to watch NeNe get married again but somehow I did and I actually shed a couple tears. I wish her happiness but I doubt she can let that happen.

        • black enga
          October 30, 2013 at 1:08 AM

          I try to be happy for most of these women and the way some of them promote good things with the platform they have. I didn’t watch her wedding, caught a few of the trailers online and saw all the backstabbing and drama so I gave it a pass. If you shed a few tears it must have been a nice ceremony. And you are right it didn’t last, she took a dig at 2 other celebrities that were given 15 carat engagement rings and said they were trying to take a page out of her book.

          Why cant she just be happy for them and say something nice with her Ne Ne twist. Like; Heeeeyyyy, I see you girls made these men cash out and got yourselves some big rocks too because we are worth it Honey! (head jerk and 2 snaps from the right to the left),lol.

          All I have to say to Ne Ne Leaks is, don’t hate congratulate, Bloop Bloop!!!

          • October 30, 2013 at 10:19 AM

            LOL, this was funny! I don’t know who Nene Leaks is or watch the show, but I definitely got a flavor of who she is and her personality from this… hahaha

            • black enga
              October 30, 2013 at 6:07 PM

              You have got to see some of her talking heads, this chick is over the top!

              • Jack Hole
                October 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM

                I agree enga!!! These ladies have gotten to be too much! Nene, like Teresa has moxie and that makes them entertaining to watch HOWEVER, I do not condone or support the back biting and jealousy-that continues to keep women oppressed. I am about empowering one another and coming together as one…hence, one reason why I am so viciously appalled at Teresa’s family. Smh, I know the whole bit about “you cant choose your family” and how they can be the worst ppl in your life (I believe the sentiment is speaking to the fact that you cannot “get rid of” them per se, they will always be a part of you in many ways…)but the Gorga/Wakile’s took this to a whole brand new level for me!!!

                Now I am rambling but, yeah, what you said!! Lol…

                • black enga
                  October 31, 2013 at 12:25 AM

                  You are not rambling and I for one totally agree! I couldn’t choose my family but I can choose to stay the hell away from them.

                  Family is sometimes like cigarettes, detrimental to your health.

    • Grand-Beth
      October 29, 2013 at 11:35 PM


    • October 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

      He barely has any skin left on his knees from rug burns.

    • cass
      October 30, 2013 at 4:18 PM

      Now I would love to read about Mandy’s past…..you know there is dirt there! He is a dirtball and will do anything and hurt anyone if it increases his bottom line. A sicko for sure!!!

      • black enga
        October 30, 2013 at 7:27 PM

        I cant find to much on him, he seems to hang out a lot with the Ripa’s, Andy Cooper and his guy, and Sara Jessica Parker. Been rumored to be in a relationship with this ex hockey player Sean. I would love to find out what Caroline and Ne Ne have on him though. No one has leaked anything juicy that I have found. The worst that I have found is that he is into “Twinkies”, what ever that means.

        He has this silly habit of asking people if they are down with the swirl (bi-racial relationship), but I haven’t heard about him dating outside of his race, which is the reason why I think his is silly. Now Anderson C, hmmmmmm heard he has in the past.

        Andy Cohen, squeaky, almost too squeaky if you asked me. I have been noticing that a lot lately. It is like these shady people are having the internet scrubbed clean of dirt on them.

  9. Djenn4
    October 29, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    I remember when the PFS in season 3 aired & Monica had said “I’m the woman that’s suing Teresa” or something to that effect. However, on the season 3 DVD, that line is gone. Monica is there & there are comments about her, but that exchange is not on the episode anymore. Same thing with the season 2 reunion- I CLEARLY remember Kim G showing up on there and talking because Danielle freaked the eff out, but on the DVD that entire section is gone. Same for when it re-airs on tv now. Wtf is going on with these cuts??

    PS- speaking of the DVDs, what’s going on with season 4? Does it exist on DVD? Sorry if I’m a little off topic 😛

    • black enga
      October 29, 2013 at 8:37 PM

      It’s called Bravo covering their asses, a lot of the past shows have been censored with whole conversations erased or edited to make it seem like they said something else. Just like the whole karma incident, I could have sworn Teresa said my children, then it was switched to your kids or something.

      Somethings going on.

      • Silvana
        October 29, 2013 at 10:42 PM

        I’ve also been looking for season 4 on DVD as I have all the others I wanted this one to but can’t find it in the nest anywhere. I did find a person who sells them but it is a burned disc not like the other seasons. I thought maybe cause I’m in Australia that was why.

      • corky21
        October 30, 2013 at 6:50 AM

        The karma comment, at first said, my kids, then it aired differently. But Teresa I think said they were filming a long time, and remember, they cut and start conversations over. My brother told me this when he watched a filming of the NYHW a few years ago.

        • patriciafromco
          October 30, 2013 at 5:08 PM

          I get the I tunes pass for the season and get the down loads by the next morning after the show.. my copy still saids ” Tre said that Karma might not come back to me but to my “Daughters”

          • Silvana
            October 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

            Yes she said my daughters and it got changed to kids.

    • Sylvia smith
      October 29, 2013 at 10:39 PM

      OMG someone else has noticed that? I can’t recall which scenes right now, but there are a couple I remember very vividly, that made me say “wow” that clears it up and then poof? Gone. Also on their blogs. I know Caroline has gone back and edited hers. Specifically things she’s said about Teresa. Then Teresa’s response sounds like she pulled it out of her ass because the offending statement by Caroline no longer exists. All this freakin intrigue on a reality show.

      • Jack Hole
        October 29, 2013 at 11:07 PM

        That’s not the first scene they have “cleaned up” after back lash!! They forget ppl have DVR’s!!

    • patriciafromco
      October 31, 2013 at 12:09 AM

      I have Kim G on the season 2 reunion like you remember her being there.

  10. hobbyath
    October 29, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Look, the feds are throwing everything Gudice’s way in hopes something will stick.
    That is their’s job. Now the tricky part begins.
    Gudice’s can prove innocent if they can produce paperwork.
    Now I ask you to show me your W2 from 2002. Oh, you have it? – falsified. Oh, you don’t have it? – guilty.
    Nancy Grace has interesting stories of misconduct on her own. I am not bothered by NG in general, I choose to agree or disagree with her – I do not relay on her.

    • Sylvia smith
      October 29, 2013 at 10:52 PM

      To me that’s the stupidest of all the charges. Teresa probably did add something to running the business and anybody can be called an Executive Assistant. it’s not like you ahve to be licensed. Many family businesses give positions and salaries to relatives. Frankly, I didn’t know it was illegal! Jacquleine was named as an officer of the apparel company, certainly she got paid. Then when they were charged all of the sudden they said she was in name only.,She’s probably being paid by BLK right now. Teresa should return the favor and drop a dime on Jacqueline.. I bet Al Manzo was passing out unearned paychecks to all the family, including Caroline, so it would come out of the business and not his pocket. Melissa was supposedly Joe’s secretary. Unless the job description called for “nooners” it’s unlikely she did any work. And Kathy never had a job so she was probably getting pocket money listed as an employee at the gas station. I mean, I think it’s unusual for a family not to do this.

      • October 30, 2013 at 6:50 AM

        Really good points here!

        • October 30, 2013 at 10:55 AM


    • October 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM

      IMO, the Giudices biggest problem is the bankruptcy fraud charges, not the bank fraud charges. I don’t think they would have been on the feds radar had they not filed bankruptcy. It all started with the Giudices filing bankruptcy (after not filing tax returns from 2004-2008) and trying to discharge the debt they owed to Mastropole in a business divorce agreement from 2007. They only owed him $260,000 of the $586,000 they agree to pay him in the settlement, but they claimed the entire amount in their bankruptcy filing and tried to get it discharged. Mastropole filed a civil suit against the Giudices to prevent them from discharging the debt they owed him. The Giudices should have settled the dispute but instead let it go to court knowing that Joe had forged Mastropole’s signature on documents (he admitted to this in court) so now it is on record that he forged Mastropole’s signature plus that of the notary (including using the notary’s seal). The Giudices should have settled the dispute by paying Mastropole what they owed him per the business divorce agreement because that case filed by Mastropole is what brought Monica into the picture.

      Much conflict could be avoided if people would abide by two laws based on English common law:

      1. Do all you have agreed to do
      2. Do not encroach on other persons or their property

      BTW, government is guilty of breaking those two laws.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM

        I agree that the BK charges are the most serious, but by the time this all plays out they could end up pleading to a few wire fraud counts.

        My mailman from my old neighborhood was recently sentenced to federal prison for three years. He started a company to sell sports merchandise and lied on credit applications to vendors and banks. The idea was to get the cash and merchandise, sell the merchandise cheaply, pocket the money and then declare corporate bankruptcy. Like Joe and T, he caught the attention of the feds when he tried to declare bankruptcy. He ended up pleading to a single count of mail fraud.

        His scam involved a much smaller dollar amount (700,000) but his crime was essentially the same. I’d be very surprised if they escape a prison sentence, but I do hope that T can negotiate a plea for house arrest. In any case, the fines and restitution are going to be in the millions.

      • momajackie
        October 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM

        In Louisiana, if someone obtains a six figure judgment against a person, that is not covered by insurance, the next step for the defendant is bankruptcy.

      • October 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

        That is my biggest problem with all of this as well, Fame. We have an ex friend who screwed over a current friend. He not only failed to pay his taxes but also was taking taxes out on his employees and not giving it to the government. Two of his employees, when they went to file for unemployment, found that there was no IRS record of them ever working there. One I know for sure had been an employee for 3 or 5 years and had been filing their taxes and W2s…not sure how that got past the IRS. The other friend he screwed over had partnered with him on rental properties. Their rental mortgages were with the same bank as his home mortgage and when he defaulted on his home mortgage, they tied it to the rental mortgage somehow. Even though the “good” friend was keeping up on the mortgages for the rentals, it was messing with his credit. He also owns two other businesses and needs a line of credit like most small businesses and it was even causing problems with that — which could DEVASTATE a small business. I think it is all legally separated now, but it has taken 3 or 4 years and a lot of legal fees. “Bad” friend is still living his life outside of jail and nothing has been done. Oh, also, “good” friend and “bad” friend purchased a camper together. They tried to repo it this summer from “good” friend because it was listed as an asset of “bad” friend so he had to essentially purchase it again. Anyway, when you mess with someone’s livelihood, I have a problem with that.

  11. OldNJLady
    October 29, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    As I have said for a long time. Every heart ache and legal problem that Teresa has can to traced right back to the most evil sister in law in the world

  12. October 29, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Just wanted to pop in and say hello and find out how y’all are doing. Been busy lately and haven’t had much to say. Though I try checking in from time to time, just wanting to make sure I haven’t missed any important personal goings on. I see Gessie and Saddle are still in rare form keeping everyone entertained 😀 I hope everyone is doing well!

    • October 30, 2013 at 2:26 AM

      Miss you Bree … come back soon 🙂

      • October 30, 2013 at 11:50 AM

        Miss you too Jules!!! How have you been?

    • momajackie
      October 30, 2013 at 8:01 PM

      This is the start of what I call the “busy” season. Football, Fall Festivals, birthdays, then Thanksgiving and Christmas. Stay in touch Bree.

      • October 30, 2013 at 8:16 PM

        I don’t have all of those reasons 😀 It’s hunting season and I usually stay pretty busy cleaning and doing my thing around the house, but my tendonitis has been acting up for awhile now and it’s dreary here in Indiana so my mood hasn’t been real wonderful and I just feel LAZY (so the tendonitis is a nice excuse, LOL). Dad was in the hospital last week…they thought he had pneumonia again but it ended up just being a bunch of mucous plugs (sounds gross, I know…sorry) and no infection, so that was good, but that was a few days of chaos. It was kinda cute…he told the dr. that in addition to visiting him twice a day, I was having to take care of my mom who has Alzheimers and take care of my two boys. The dr. asked him how old they were and dad misunderstood (I’m sure) and said 15 – 20 lbs. Anyway, they released him that night when they got the final culture results back and as the nurse was helping me get him in the car, she asked me if my boys were the “2 legged or 4 legged variety.” She saw the doggie car seats and doggie seat belts and figured out that I had two little boy dogs and not twin baby boys like they thought. Dad got a bit of a chuckle and said, “Oh well, whatever works. You DO have to take care of those two little ones.”

        How are things with you and yours Jackie?

        • momajackie
          October 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

          Sorry to hear about what you have been going through.

          All four of my grandbabies in school, were Student of the Month/Terrific Kid. I am so proud when I pass in front of their homes and see 2 signs in their front yard. Grandchildren are a true joy.

          • October 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

            Eh, not a big deal really…last week was a bit crazy, but really, other than that, I just need to improve my attitude 😀 It’s nothing new, I get anti-social like this around the same time every year but I usually keep busy around the house. Hopefully this tendonitis eases up soon!

          • October 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM

            That’s great about the grandbabies Jackie!!! Congrats to them!

          • October 31, 2013 at 12:08 AM

            Momajackie I love that you say that about grandchildren, and in kind I will say that grandparents are a true blessing. Nothing gives me greater joy than to see my kids or my brother’s kids spending time with their grandparents (my parents). It’s truly an amazing feeling.

            • October 31, 2013 at 12:10 AM

              … or with my in-laws of course! Same wonderful feeling.

            • Jeannie5233
              October 31, 2013 at 2:13 AM

              And nothing makes me happier than to spend that time with my grandchildren NinaK – the love a grandparent has for a grandchild is like no other love out there – pure, unadulterated JOY!!!!

              One of the reasons it is so amazing is to watch them and see family traits and mannerisms handed down – the tilt of the head, an expression of the face, or even a certain stance, like a hand on the hip. It is truly a testament that we really do live on from one generation to the next and the next.

          • Jeannie5233
            October 31, 2013 at 2:07 AM

            Ah, yes – grandchildren truly are a joy, moma!!!! Congratulations to you and to your four grandbabies – what a wonderful accomplishment!!

        • October 31, 2013 at 12:05 AM

          Wow Bree sounds like you have a lot going on and I admire you for your upbeat attitude about all of it. Your Dad sounds great and he really appreciates all you do.

          • November 3, 2013 at 7:49 PM

            Back to normal this weekend!! Woo hoo. Tendonitis has eased up and I was able to clean and enjoy my weekend!

        • black enga
          October 31, 2013 at 12:38 AM

          Hi Bree, I’m so sorry that you are not feeling well, I will pray for you, your Mom and Dad as well as your two baby boys.

          God Bless You and your family.

          • November 3, 2013 at 7:50 PM

            Thanks Black Enga! Tendonits has eased up and everything is back to normal now 😀

        • Jeannie5233
          October 31, 2013 at 2:05 AM

          Bree – I started reading comments from the bottom up and I left a message for IamNobodysHW (Cher) but it sounds like you need it too so head on down there and read – I am amazed at the strength and resilience of the women on this site.


          • November 3, 2013 at 7:50 PM

            Hi Jeannie! Return to normalcy this weekend, thankfully. Hope you are doing well!

  13. October 29, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Little passive aggressive bitch like her mother:

    Victoria Wakile ‏@VictoriaWakile 4h
    Baby you the whole package plus you pay your taxes @KathyWakile 💁💋
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    • meri4911
      October 29, 2013 at 11:50 PM

      Victoria’s tweet just goes to show the mindset of the rest of the rest of the cast. They are gloating over the Guidice’s financial and legal issues. Donuts to dollars that tweet is deleted soon.

      • meri4911
        October 29, 2013 at 11:56 PM

        That is a song? According to Victoria. A very poor choice of verse to tweet considering.

        • October 30, 2013 at 12:09 AM

          I don’t care if it is a song, she’s a passive aggressive bitch like her mother. Why would she tweet that if not to get cousin Tre’s goat going.

          • Sylvia smith
            October 30, 2013 at 9:23 AM

            I know the Wikiles, Lauritas and Manzos read this blog and I hope they understand what a terrible impression the public has of their disrespectful, entitled, grown children. Not just from the show, because that is usually quite kind, but by their own public actions. They have nasty mouths, they are often sexually inappropriate, bigoted, bullying and don’t seem to have boundaries. I guess with a lascivious dad and jealous mom like the Wikiles, an unbalanced drunk and absentee father like the Wikiles and two raged filled parents like the Manzos, it was inevitable that they would act out, specially against adults. They all have a chip on their should and are looking for a fight.

            • October 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM

              I agree and wish Fame would do a blog on this

            • Sylvia smith
              October 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM

              I meant “an unbalanced drunk and absentee father like the LAURITAS”

          • meri4911
            October 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM


            • momajackie
              October 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM

              What are their names?

      • patriciafromco
        October 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM

        OT….. @meri4911…. love love your pups.. gorgeous

    • October 30, 2013 at 7:14 AM

      That’s right another sneaky wolf in sheep’s clothing! Did you see that nasty photo of her with Johnny the Greek’s famewhore niece – Marigo Mihalo-she giving Victoria a lap dance and she has her hands on her behind? Gross

      • October 30, 2013 at 9:14 AM


  14. Jack Hole
    October 29, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Ugh!! She is mad bc her mom is a snoozefest and her dad is a disgusting perv!! I feel bad for the Wakile kids–really bad!! Ewwwww, Victoria can have this one…

    • October 30, 2013 at 7:19 AM

      I think in this case …the apple didn’t fall far from the tree. She needs to wake up-it seems her own Dad is not only a creep, but also a crook!!

  15. Spaghetti Kitten
    October 30, 2013 at 6:25 AM

    Did Daddy Dickie Tweet “Baby, your classmates are the whole FAT package?” #disgusting

    Amen to world bank craziness suedechick79!

    Who doesn’t Nancy Grace think is guilty? HALEIGH CUMMINGS Family of inbred meth headed sociopaths, that’s who. I thought Nance was a crusader for justice (Shawn Hornbeck/Caylee first missing) and as a true crime addict, really enjoyed her until that FLA Cummings family was featured…watching her fall for all that “Well Miss Nancy, I don’t rightly know…Miss Nancy I was at worrrrk… Miss Nancy I was making a drug deal on veedeeeo….blah blah…” Time for T to Tweet her “Should I call you MISS NANCY, or is BITCH betta!?” And can there ever be enough of “the twins”? The answer is a resounding > YES!


    ‘Night freend

    Anyhoo…love the blog…love the summary. Tx Famey! 🙂

    • October 30, 2013 at 6:57 AM

      Would love to see Tre telling her off! 😉

    • suedechik79
      October 30, 2013 at 7:28 AM

      She has absolutely no stock in truth. She wants a paycheck. As long as we understand that everything that comes out of her mouth, like ALL national reporters, aims to bring home a paycheck rather than aims to create an informed public, shes fine by me. We all need to bring in money to live these days.

    • Detroitrockcity
      October 30, 2013 at 10:26 AM

      Oh My Cheezus!! Now we have “Nancy” !! Gag me!? World News?? What a crock of shit!! Everybody knows what bullshit this is!! Why don’t we all jump on the bandwagon?? Blablabla ; / Give me my own show?? If I was Tre, Id get out while the getten is good!! Or finish it once and for all!!!!!!!!!

      • Detroitrockcity
        October 30, 2013 at 10:34 AM

        My my my,what they all won’t do for a piece of the “Pie”!! ; /

    • October 31, 2013 at 9:32 AM

      Spaghetti Kitten, LOL to your “Daddy Dickie Tweet”. I know this is a low blow but I have to put this out there, the scene in Arizona with “Daddy Dickie” in shorts was uncomfortable to watch! That was #disgusting! Especially for a grown man who sat and commented about his daughter’s college friends’ weight! What a hypocrite!

  16. tulip
    October 30, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    ROL is reporting that the twins that are supposed to be the new cast members of RHNJ both have financial troubles and sordid legal pasts. Just more stuff for Andy and Bravo to exploit, all the while, never once mentioning the same type of pasts of the others. I hope everybody tunes out to this crapfest of a show next season. Obviously, 1 million less viewers didn’t convince Andy Cohen that viewers are sick and tired of the favoritism and of him protecting the rest of the cast who have shady legal and business dealings also.

    • October 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM

      Of course they have financial troubles and sordid legal pasts. I believe that is a requirement to become a housewife.

      • October 30, 2013 at 11:08 AM

        It seems like that is a prerequisite so the HW will be easy to control!

        • aaacccp
          October 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

          It sure does cee!

    • pinkie
      November 6, 2013 at 5:54 AM

      RHONJ is crack for me, but I am turned off completely by the way Bravo has depicted the Guidices. The viewers are not that masochistic to watch one of their favs go down in flames with the other cast mates,, and executive producer Andy J Cohen kicking them as they do.

  17. October 30, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    Who knows what is going on with the Lauritas and their lawsuits, bankruptcy and other financial problems???? They had something like 155 allegations against them. Did this just go away?

    • momajackie
      October 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM

      @Confused can be my witness, with good attorneys and no outside pressures, the Laurita’s case could be continued for years.

  18. gumbog
    October 30, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    I have pretty much every single episode of RHONJ downloaded, so I can rewatch scenes if anyone wants me to!

    • October 30, 2013 at 5:42 PM

      What did Monica say and/or at the Country Club? Season 3 or 4?

  19. Sylvia smith
    October 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    I’m curious. I’ve read many reports where cast members have said “we are forbidden to mention” this or that by Bravo. I think Bravo has forced the cast to claim they don’t know people that they actually do know, the Greeks, Chacon, Melissa’s co-worker, etc. Way too many instances for it to be coincidental. I think everyone on the show has, at one time, claimed to have no relationship with a peripheral character that shows up and drops a bomb and it’s easily revealed that they do know each other, . It makes for great drama for a stranger to arrive, stir something up (again scripted by Bravo) and like a board game, each player starts to make denials, accusations and explanations. But the pieces never quite fit and everyone seems confused. These people are all from the same town, have come across each other for decades socially, in business, through their children, politically or charities. Unless they’re forced to contractually, why do they deny something they know will be revealed by a long trail of evidence, pictures, twitter, etc., The person or persons caught in the lie is left with egg or their face and no reasonable explanation why they lied. Bravo wins. The lie created the drama on the show they’re looking for and when revealed, the media attention keeps the show active on the entertainment sites and blogs, even off season. Bravo’s got this one. No other explanation.

  20. October 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    I see on Zillow that Joe and Melissa’s old home (on 8 pond view) has a new Zesimate of $878,954 as of 10/27/2013. That’s crazy-this makes me wonder what else in that house if cracked, faux/painted marble. Something fishy in going on with that house for sure-I think it went back to the bank. Anyone here in New Jersey know if anyone is living there now?

    • October 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM

      Realtor says it’s estimated value is $1,553,839 ————–makes me wonder.

    • October 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

      Found this old comment -it is very telling!
      “Fishstick67 days ago
      4 different names on the paperwork, 2 loans off the property, they were forced to give the property back to the bank and were renting. The bank sold the property for less than what these liars are saying. They are now renting because they can’t afford to buy a house the need to show off to be a real housewife. Hopefully once Teresa hits jail, the show will be cancelled and these almost criminals can move back to the apartment over the laundry at in Paterson where they came from. Their days of creative mortgage fraud are over thanks to his sister. They will be forced to live off his income of a 3rd rate contractor. He will also have to start paying back the millions he borrowed to get on this show. Reality fame is expensive .”

    • October 30, 2013 at 9:34 PM

      Zillow says 2.7 mill as of yesterday

      • aaacccp
        October 31, 2013 at 6:29 AM

        I will try to post a link.

      • aaacccp
        • October 31, 2013 at 10:20 AM
          • aaacccp
            October 31, 2013 at 10:25 AM

            Well we both have links-I don’t know what to say? There is no way-IMO-that home is worth 3.2!!

          • aaacccp
            October 31, 2013 at 10:30 AM

            I see on your link it shows 9000+ Sq Ft and my link shows 13000 sq ft…what the heck?

        • October 31, 2013 at 10:24 AM

          13,500 Sq feet? Fame did a blog about the Gorga’s selling their home and it was more like, 9,700 Sq feet! TSIL’s lies won’t stop! I really believe that she see’s no problem with exaggerating a truth or lying. It seems like she either blames someone for her lie or she avoids addressing the lie when it is exposed. When I know someone is lying I usually will confront them about it and hear their reason. More than likely, I never trust that person again. I guess TSIL doesn’t give a rat’s butt who she lies too, or what she lies about?

          • aaacccp
            October 31, 2013 at 10:35 AM

            Zillow it not always accurate-so I don’t know what to think. I do think that home looks very cheap.

            • ceeeseee
              October 31, 2013 at 10:53 AM

              I never liked the key hole shaped windows and balcony! My BF, who is a carpenter, says you can over kill a house with too much detail. I think that is the case with this house.

              • aaacccp
                October 31, 2013 at 11:47 AM

                Beyond tacky! In the words of Real Estalker:

                “Your Mama ain’t a scholar so we can’t really identify the architectural style of The Gorga’s gargantuan mcmansion in Montville. Listing information calls it “European-influenced.” We see it less grandiosely, perhaps, through squinted eyes as the East Coast equivalent of all the over-blown faux-Tuscan and mock-Med mcmansions ”
                “designed to impress family members and pizza delivery boys with biscuit-colored inlaid marble floors, heavy, wedding-cake-ish gilded moldings, curving twin staircases with intricate, wrought iron and gilt banister, and an oddly undulating coffered ceiling laced with—you got it—more gilt detailing.”
                long family room where listing photos show a built-in entertainment center with gilt detailing—of course—and a smattering of furniture and day-core that consists of barely more than a espresso bean-brown leather sofa and a couple of matching, man-sized recliners, a bow-legged coffee table, and a big ol’ urn from Pier One or World Market or some global marketplace store like that. The floors surprisingly and inexplicably switch to wall-to-wall red carpeting in the circular, double height library/office encircled by built-in (and book-free) bookshelves topped by pastel-colored murals that may (or may not) depict simple vistas of the Italian country- and sea-side.
                We’re not sure if Mister and Missus Gorga (e la famiglia) have already cleared the house of much of their day-core and other personal belongings or if they just don’t own much in the way of furniture or care about the day-core. We hope it’s the former because the latter is just a sad and sorry state of affairs. People who buy or build massive mansions and then don’t have the good sense (or money) to furnish them properly really chaps Your Mama’s delicate decorative hide. We ain’t saying this is the case for the Gorgas. We make zero claims of any knowledge of their financial circumstances. For all we know they’re holding more cash and jewels than the damn Pope. However, hunties, let’s get real for a moment. Rule Number 3 in Your Mama’s Big Book of Decorating Dos and Don’ts reads in part, “There’s little that more loudly screams, ‘We don’t have as much money as we like people to think we do’ than a barely furnished mcmansion.” We’re not sayin’, we’re just sayin’. Okay?”

                • October 31, 2013 at 5:50 PM

                  I was on my FB page and I get update’s of RHONJ from wetpaint. Anyway, I guess TSIL gave an interview about her new house, which is being built 2 miles away from where their renting! Here’s a link to the interview:


                  Of course the interview says that TB “is in charge of the project”. Project, I guess, means building contractor? Hmmmm…..

                  • black enga
                    October 31, 2013 at 8:58 PM

                    OOOOOoooooo, I tell ya with this chick! Excuses excuses and more excuses. “It make sense to us”, really? So why not say that in the beginning instead of blaming your moving on someone else?

                    Somebody please tell her that the fire went out on the grill and she’s done. I give up……Next!

                    • black enga
                      October 31, 2013 at 9:23 PM

                      ceeeseee “is in charge of the project” can mean a lot of different things. He tried, (if those pics of the houses on the other article are any indication of his building skills), to build houses. Jeff Lewis is in charge of projects too but he doesn’t build anything. I don’t believe he built the house they just sold/gave back. I think he may have designed it, hired contractors, and cut so many corners with the materials that it’s falling apart. I mean look at his houses in Paterson, one looks like it’s standing on stilts. I don’t know maybe I’m wrong.

                      But for her to keep saying he’s such a good builder is ridiculous!

                    • ceeeseee
                      October 31, 2013 at 11:19 PM

                      I do believe this is another of TSIL’s lies that, if exposed, she will avoid to answer the question. The Gorga’s moved into their rental 2 days after the reunion 5 was filmed. I think they moved out because they couldn’t afford the Montville house and they were paid from Bravo. I remember last years reunion when TB and Juicy got into an argument and Juicy brought up TB borrowing money all over the place. I really have a hard time believing that the Gorga’s are as wealthy as they say they are and TSIL will do anything to cover up her lack of wealth. That’s such a sad life to live! My younger sister lived like that and it was uncomfortable to watch her brag and boast about her wealth when I knew the truth. My sister was able to cover up her financial problems for years. Then when her name was in the paper that she was being sued by different companies she checked into a psych ward!

                      Thanks for the youtube link to JFK’s speech, Black Enga! Also, I did make the 1-2-3-4 cake and it was delicious! I love lemon cake, do you think I could add lemon flavor into the frosting/cake recipe to make a lemon cake and frosting?

        • Miami53
          October 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM

          There are parts of the house I do like but I’m surprise that they didn’t show the master bedroom, closet and bath. That is what most people would be interested in. I remember Juicy saying that the halls were too narrow and if you look at them, it seems the ceilings are right on top of you. I kind of like those keyhole windows…gives the house character. I wouldn’t want this house because you know it was cheaply made….and if most people watched the show…they will know too!! LOL

      • aaacccp
        October 31, 2013 at 6:45 AM

        This is what I see-do you have a link also? I know Zillow is sometimes wrong.

        $883,012 $494K – $1.77M +$22,402 $65 /sqft 10/29/2013

  21. October 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Melissa A Gorga
    Type: STATE TAX LIEN | Amount: $20,971
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 8 POND VW, MONTVILLE, NJ 07045

    Guiseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL DISMISSAL | Amount: $6,565
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 149 PULIS AVE, FRANKLIN LKS, NJ 07417

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL JUDGMENT | Amount: $12,353
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 8 POND VW, MONTVILLE, NJ 07045

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL JUDGMENT | Amount: $3,752
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470

    Joe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL DISMISSAL | Amount: $2,959
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 8 POND VW, MONTVILLE, NJ 07045
    Creditor: ABC STONE WORKS

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL NEW FILING | Amount: $4,169
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470

    Guissepe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL JUDGMENT | Amount: $3,723
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 BLACK OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470

    Joe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL NEW FILING | Amount: $937
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 BLACK OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470

    Guiseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL JUDGMENT | Amount: $762
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 BLACK OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470

    Giuseppe Gorga (repeat)
    Type: STATE TAX LIEN | Amount: $20,971
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 8 POND VW, MONTVILLE, NJ 07045

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: STATE TAX LIEN | Amount: $13,951
    Case Number: | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 8 POND VW, MONTVILLE, NJ 07045

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: Unavailable
    Case Number: SL-00000043-2006- | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 516 LAFAYETTE AVE, HAWTHORNE, NJ 07506
    Creditor: OSVALDO AGOSTO

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: Unavailable
    Case Number: SL-00007432-2005- | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 BLACK OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470
    Creditor: IVO BRICOLI

    Joe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: Unavailable
    Case Number: SL-00000767-2005- | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 BLACK OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470
    Creditor: KIM KIRALY

    Joe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: Unavailable
    Case Number: SL-00011054-2004- | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 259 BLACK OAK RIDGE RD, WAYNE, NJ 07470
    Creditor: ALETA ADLER

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: $19,343,.01
    Case Number: SL-00002953-2004- | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 149 PULIS AVE, FRANKLIN LKS, NJ 07417

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: $1,900,.00
    Case Number: SC-00012164-2004-DC | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 149 PULIS AVE, FRANKLIN LKS, NJ 07417
    Creditor: STATE FARM INS CO

    Guiseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: Unavailable
    Case Number: SL-00005296-2004- | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 149 PULIS AVE, FRANKLIN LKS, NJ 07417
    Creditor: MARK NAKHAIE

    Giuseppe Gorga
    Type: CIVIL SUIT | Amount: Unavailable
    Case Number: SL-00004303-2004- | Date Filed: Unavailable
    Debtor Address: 149 PULIS AVE, FRANKLIN LKS, NJ 07417

    • October 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      No dates? Are these old? They still show what nasty crooks they are.

    • momajackie
      October 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM

      I have been checking the real estate transfers for two months now, and still nothing on 8 Pond View. I am beginning to believe they gave it back to the bank.

  22. October 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Maybe Ms. Walk-on-by was thinking of her “other cousins”…just sayin*.*

    • October 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM


      • October 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM

        Her pay your taxes song lyrics that Victoria Tweeted to Kathy. Jules (I think) posted it above.

        • aaacccp
          October 31, 2013 at 6:30 AM

          Oh, yes that was a low blow. Her day will come.

          • November 3, 2013 at 7:51 PM

            Both of those kids sound like brats…

  23. October 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    My gosh so many different addresses!! I count 6-the 516 LAFAYETTE AVE, HAWTHORNE, NJ 07506 is the address for “Hiza & Hiza LLC‎ NJ Home Jersey” Something horrible seems to be going on with this.

  24. October 30, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    IDGAF what nancy grace says! I do GAF what MeHo did to my girl T…….. that dirty low down wig. Karma needs to whoop MeHo’s a** I wish Danielle would spill everything on her she has. Everything.

    • danadoll007
      October 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      There so much I wish I could “like” here comment-wise. Also, wonder why I cannot comment. I can only reply??

  25. tulip
    October 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    I would also like to know what happened to the Laurita’s bankruptcy and financial issues. Would we be able to find out through the New Jersey Attorney General’s office?

    • Anonymous
      October 30, 2013 at 4:22 PM

      I would like to see fame go thru all of the epesodes where tre spent money and show IT WAS ANDY doing the spending for show,and to see all of a whole blog all about Teresa a nd juicy and the kids,just fun things we can all comment on,
      love you all ,ms Jeannie we think of you often ,hope you are doing better ,mamajackie you work to much ,slow down,i never hear how sackems lil ava is ,.

      • Anonymous
        October 30, 2013 at 7:13 PM

        this is me celifrom anmonous

      • Sackem
        October 30, 2013 at 9:33 PM

        We’re great!!! I gave birth to a vampire!!!!!! Breast feeding and teeth do NOT. Make Sackem a happy mummy but Ava is growing so well – very bossy like her Mama and very pretty like her Papa!! She turns heads!!!!

        • Jeannie5233
          October 31, 2013 at 1:58 AM

          Hi Sackem! It sounds like you have the perfect Halloween costumes then!! J/K!!!! Give your sweet baby a pat on her tummy for me!

          • Sackem
            October 31, 2013 at 8:08 AM

            Fat little tummy at that!

      • October 30, 2013 at 11:56 PM

        that’s me celi ,,sackem.so happy to hear you n she are well n happy

        • Sackem
          October 31, 2013 at 8:08 AM

          I miss you Celi!!! xx

      • Jeannie5233
        October 31, 2013 at 2:00 AM

        Hi celi!! Having an awesome time in California – I think I’ve gained about 10 pounds from eating such delicious food!!! Getting home in a few days!! Love to you too!!

        • October 31, 2013 at 8:12 AM

          Glad you are having fun!! Bon Appetit! 🙂

        • SFgal
          October 31, 2013 at 1:02 PM

          Jeannie, been reading Fame for about a year and the thought of posting made me nervous. I’m now taking the plunge. I’m from SF, just curious as to where are you visiting in CA? Enjoy your vacation.

          Fame, your blog is so enlightening. I’m addicted. I would have never guessed how Bravo manipulates the viewers. You’ve made me an expert and have changed many minds about what TSIL is all about. I can’t believe how many of my friends just don’t get it and they don’t read this site, but believe me, I forward it to them.

          OT…I just finished watching Seasons 1 and 2 and now it all makes sense. I see Danielle and the rest of the cast in a whole different light. She did not deserve all that bullying during the reunion Season 2 (Who does Caroline think she is?) and now I see why T went off on her…..TSIL pulling those strings behind the scenes. On to season 3…

          Happy Halloween.

          • October 31, 2013 at 11:59 PM

            Welcome to FW, SFgal! I’m so glad you “took the plunge” to start commenting 🙂 And thank you so much for sending your friends to my site. I’m with you: I see the show in an entirely new light as I learn more and more of the truth.

          • Jeannie5233
            November 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM

            Hi SFgirl and welcome to FW!!!

            I lived in OC for 7 and a half years and moved back to the East coast several years ago because I couldn’t stand not being near my grandchildren. I grew up on the East coast; have lived there, in the Midwest, and in Southern California. if I had my choice, I would have never left Orange County. I was supposed to be a California girl! I take it you are from San Francisco – my second favorite city in the country; NYC being my first!
            Glad you took the plunge and began commenting here – Fame is a fantastic blogger and the FW community is, by far, the best out there. you can pretty much feel comfortable and respected! 🙂

        • October 31, 2013 at 10:13 PM

          have fun but come home safe

    • Grand-Beth
      October 30, 2013 at 5:17 PM

      Yea, I can`t find a damn thing except past stuff. It sure has been quite about their financial problems( Lauritas/ Sig.App ) but WTH…….stuff as big as that just don`t disappear. Also, nothing on mob ties with the Manzos either since I read Russell`s book I have tried to find out more on “tiny Manzo” but it`s like “poof”.

      • October 30, 2013 at 7:13 PM

        I think the Lauritas had there info scrubbed. You can do that if you want to pay a service.

        • Grand-Beth
          October 31, 2013 at 1:53 PM

          I agree gessie, I think the internet scrubbed anything about the Lauritas fraud with signature apparel and can`t find zip on the Manzos past. not even old newspaper articles on Tiny Manzo. But I bet Big Al and Tommy has ties the way Carohag is always bragging like “my husband will destroy you” to Juicy…….And then the article about their friends the ‘Keriks”.
          I so hope their show the Manzoids fail and fail big..I thought I read where another network picked it up and not Bravo. There MUST be $$$$ somewhere to keep noisy people like me from finding info on any of this……so there must be something to hide.

          It`s like if you like your Insurance, you can keep it…….If you like your Doctor, no one will take that away from you period……….And Carolies saying “never a bad thing has ever been said about my FIL”……Really, people don`t die the way he did if not in the Mob and she ACTS mobbish IMO.
          ok, I`m done rambling. I need to start on the next JD Robb book…….something Juicy 🙂

      • GPM
        October 31, 2013 at 1:35 AM

        The most recent public filing that I could find on the Internet is at http://www.nysb.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/221573_105_opinion.pdf

        It’s dated September 10, 2013 so it is fairly new.

        Reading it is like wading through mud and the subject matter is not of particular interest — a motion to disqualify counsel which the Bankruptcy Court denied — but there’s a mention of the Laurita Adversary Proceeding on Page 5 and little history on the preceding pages.

        It looks like it’s still grinding onward!

        • October 31, 2013 at 6:52 AM

          Thanks for posting this-I think the Manzo/Laurita clan is so filthy dirty. All those LLCs must be for hiding money,IMO

        • October 31, 2013 at 7:15 AM

          I see that New Star Group is also named. Came across this from the Hudson Reporter:
          “Chris and Albie Manzo are starting out on a new venture courtesy of uncle Chris Laurita’s capital. New Star Group is a new production/PR company – or some kind of a shell for a business where you can just think up crap and it gets produced (e.g. young Chris wants to make a book about toilets and going to the bathroom, making the crap reference literally literal). Chris’ other idea is to create a cell phone with a built in breathalyzer. Not a bad idea. It would sure stop those drunk dials to ex-lovers at 3 a.m. when the bar is closing and you don’t have anyone to go home with. Quiet Albie actually gets in the best quip by saying, “Ashley should have that on her Twitter account.”

          I’m not sure if this New Star Group is legit, because it’s headquartered in the former house of Caroline and Chris’ parents, and the boys’ new office used to be Grandma’s craft room. “I used to s**t here,” Chris Manzo says. Judging from his ideas, he still does. One of the first clients for New Star is a company that sells black water. Caroline is so proud that her “Two kids from Jersey are selling black water.” Helloooo, Caroline. Hurricane Irene just passed through and I’m pretty sure you can find black water flooding the streets of Hoboken on almost every corner.

          The most interesting thing about this whole new business is that we actually found out where Chris Laurita gets his money from. He’s in the wholesale apparel business. Hmm, wonder if he supplies the wardrobe for the show. As I write this, I bet that courtesy of Mr. Laurita, some 6-year-old in Vietnam is gluing plastic rubies into the shape of a heart on a polyester tube top destined for Melissa Gorga.”

    • punkinseed
      October 30, 2013 at 6:18 PM

      Laurita’s bkcty would be in the US District court, not NJ Attorney General. I’m not sure where they incorporated, but many biz inc. in Delaware, so the US Court would be in that # District if not NJ.
      If you want to get a good understanding and education of HOW Lauritas and others operate biz, google DBSI of Meridian Idaho. Giant Ponzi scheme with Tenant In Common investors stacked with shell operations similar to BLK, etc. Like Madoff, a special investigator was appointed by the bankruptcy court on DBSI. They basically looted the investors’ $, disbursed million$ to the top dogs of the company, then filed bankruptcy. Billion$. It’s been over five years and hasn’t gone to trial yet. Soon, but it takes a LONG time for the govt. folks to winnow and sift.
      I used to work with one of the guys who got over a million in payoff…

      • October 31, 2013 at 6:53 AM

        How intriguing.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 31, 2013 at 6:55 AM

        Reminds me of a Hemmingway line:

        “How did you go bankrupt? Two ways. Gradually and then suddenly.”

        It will seem to drag on and on, and then BAM. Chris will go bye-bye for awhile.

  26. Pittsburghfan
    October 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Teresa is friends with Victoria Gotti who worked for Star magazine. She never pulled any strings to defame her cousin’s husband, cousins, brother or his wife. If Teresa was as evil as everyone painted her to be she would have done that. Even with all the overwhelming evidence that her relatives betrayed her she still hasn’t done that. She is a very strong forgiving woman.

  27. October 30, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    I say to Teresa, START TALKING……….. Saving yourself means saving your girls. I can’t imagine what would have happened to us kids if both our parents went to jail. We would probably be all crack whores. i had relatives like the Guidices, too. They were all tangled up in our financial problems but my father wouldn’t flip. Do you think any of these bastards who were loaded gave us any money to survive on while my father was in jail or afterwards for loyalty? Hell to the no. And to those who say the government won’t dangle plkea deals in front of Teresa, you don’t know how things work. They will offer her house arrest if she confesses to the minor things she did, and testifies against the Juice. I love Juicy, and he is innocent of 75% of the charges, but that is what his excellent lawyers are for. To get most of the charges dropped. he should do whatever it takes to keep his wife out of prison. Sorry, but this is real. And those girls need their Mum no matter what back-stabbing scheming and treachery led them here, they are in fact………. Here. In the situation. It’s not fair, but they have to deal with it. First step is to help Teresa. And Joe is the only person capable of doing that.

    • October 30, 2013 at 9:58 PM

      Very true Gessie. I hope Teresa’s lawyers and Juicy are advising her in this direction.

    • October 31, 2013 at 6:49 AM

      So sorry you had to go through this. It’s when times are tough you see people for what they REALLY are.

      • October 31, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        Ah, it was a long time ago. I just keep thinking of gia and i was her age with her confidence. Then poof! all was gone.

    • LifeIsGood
      October 31, 2013 at 7:28 PM

      I agree with you, Gessie. But unfortunately, if it is true that the Feds are trying to make the point that celebs are not above the law (like Martha Stewart), then sending T to jail is the whole point. They may allow Juicy to remain out of jail until T serves her sentence, then Juicy will go away (for much longer, I think).

      I really hope that she can remain with the kids, but something tells me it will not play out that way.

  28. October 30, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    I mean relatives like the Gorgas. Who did not have clean hands.

  29. IamNobodysHW
    October 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Hi everyone,
    It’s been a long hard month but I managed to keep a scum (murderer) behind bars for at least another 2 years. I pray he never gets paroled. To much stress at such a sad time of the year for me. When I think of my own troubles, I try to remember there is someone who is going through troubles too. Teresa is going through so much and my heart goes out to her. She has so many knives in her back, the big ones are from her own family. She is staying so strong for her girls and I think when she is alone, that is her time to cry. It’s really a shame that Teresa gets more love and support from her fans than from her family. Teresa can stand on my shoulders anytime she needs to, she will always have my support. I don’t think Teresa and Joe are squeeky clean but I also don’t believe they should go to prison. Pay back and probation, but not prison.

    • momajackie
      October 30, 2013 at 9:24 PM

      It has been a while since you have posted Cher. Sorry to hear what you have been subjected to. My parents always stressed, there are people who have more problems than we do. After watching RHONJ I would not trade places with any of those women.

      Love, prayers and hugs, to you, Cher.

      • October 31, 2013 at 10:11 PM

        max is so adorable

    • October 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

      Cher, I am sorry to hear that you are going through some stressful times. Sending prayers and energy your way.

      • October 31, 2013 at 9:43 AM

        Me, too.

    • Sackem
      October 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM

      Hey Cher!!!! I’m so sorry that you have to keep fighting!!!!

    • Jeannie5233
      October 31, 2013 at 1:52 AM

      My dear Cher –

      I am out of town and due back home in a few days so I haven’t been here much. I just read your comment and I want you to know I admire your strength as a woman and think of you often. The challenges you have faced in your life and continue to face are daunting and you always seem to be able to deal with them with the best attitude. This is for you and everyone else here who sometimes just need a little reminder that we all can find the strength to get through – it is there – we just have to sometimes look a little harder:


      by Johnny Ray Ryder Jr

      A mighty wind blew night and day
      It stole the oak tree’s leaves away
      Then snapped its boughs and pulled its bark
      Until the oak was tired and stark

      But still the oak tree held its ground
      While other trees fell all around
      The weary wind gave up and spoke.
      How can you still be standing Oak?

      The oak tree said, I know that you
      Can break each branch of mine in two
      Carry every leaf away
      Shake my limbs, and make me sway

      But I have roots stretched in the earth
      Growing stronger since my birth
      You’ll never touch them, for you see
      They are the deepest part of me

      Until today, I wasn’t sure
      Of just how much I could endure
      But now I’ve found, with thanks to you
      I’m stronger than I ever knew”

      ((((Cher)))) and ((((Everyone))))

      • October 31, 2013 at 6:28 AM

        Love this! So nice of you to post!

      • October 31, 2013 at 7:50 AM

        Love it 😀

      • October 31, 2013 at 8:09 AM

        I rarely post on here, but this brought tears to my eyes. My mom, as long as I can remember has always “known” things and I’m not even sure that she realizes this gift. I can’t really explain it. She is a devout Christian, and she told us a couple of days ago that she is preparing to go to Heaven. I know what she is saying, and later I just broke down crying. I can’t even imagine not having my mom around anymore. The roots this poem talks about, are ones that my mom has taught or instilled in me. She is the one who taught me how to be a strong woman during the hard times. I will have to use that strength she taught me to get through one of the most difficult things I will ever have to face. I will be copying this and placing it on my refrigerator where I can read it when needed. Thank you for sharing.

        • October 31, 2013 at 10:39 AM

          Bless you-you Mom sounds wonderful!!!

        • October 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM

          pinkkke – I know what you are going through – the gifts your mother gave you and the love you have for her will carry you through this very difficult time. I know you cherish the time you have left with her and those memories you are making right now will help too. ((((pinkkke))))

      • IamNobodysHW
        October 31, 2013 at 9:30 PM

        All the HW could learn a lot from the women on this site. We grow strength from each other, we build each other up, not tear each other down and we love unconditionally. I lost my mom 30 years ago this month and not a day goes by that I don’t remember her. My baby sis also passed 6 years ago. I want to thank all the women for sharing their lives and love with me and everyone and a big THANK YOU to FAME for allowing us to do so. Friends are like flowers, Rare and beautiful.

      • momajackie
        October 31, 2013 at 10:09 PM

        This really brought tears to my eyes. Beautiful and so true.

    • October 31, 2013 at 6:47 AM

      Sending prayers and {{{Hugs}}} your way, stay strong!!

  30. IamNobodysHW
    October 31, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Jackie,Jules & Sackem
    My beautiful girls, thank you so much. Kiss Ava for me

    • October 31, 2013 at 6:28 AM


    • Sackem
      October 31, 2013 at 8:05 AM

      …. I will, cross your fingers she doesn’t draw blood!

  31. October 31, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Happy Halloween-or shall we say ‘Happy Melissa Day” 😉 I am still making my goody bags-I am so behind this year. Hope you all have a wonderful day and stay safe!!! 🙂

    • momajackie
      October 31, 2013 at 10:18 PM

      I love the Fall season.

      I got five visitors today. Three were my grandbabies and two were my daughter-in-laws niece and nephew. We treat them like kings and queens. Toys, toys and candy. We are an old neighborhood and just love all of the little ones.

      • October 31, 2013 at 10:49 PM

        moma! Is that our little mighty Max?! How adorable!

        Hope everyone had a Happy Halloween with lots of treats and absolutely no tricks!!

        • November 1, 2013 at 12:12 AM

          Hey Jeannie! I’m didn’t get to comments in moderation from new posters until a little while ago, and SFgal left one for you above.

  32. Miami53
    October 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    OT- I can’t believe WW is questioning Camille Grammer on her abuse from her boyfriend….this person/thing is something else..

    • October 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM

      WW is an idiot! I don’t see why people watch her.

    • Honnie Badger
      October 31, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      So, it’s then OK for me to question Wendy’s original gender! 🙂

      • black enga
        October 31, 2013 at 4:38 PM

        THANK YOU!!!! bingo, ding ding ding, give that girl a prize. I am so glad you said what I have been thinking for years.

        • Miami53
          October 31, 2013 at 5:03 PM

          When I was describing her, I really was going to say Wendy/Walter instead of person/thing but I didn’t really want to say something I’m not sure of but I really feel she is a he/she

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 31, 2013 at 10:14 PM

          Oh God *please* let’s not go there. I’m *very* open minded (you can only imagine!) but I get so confused when you get to the area of all that gender stuff. I had a situation recently where I was trying to figure out what a person was. I ended up with a big old headache. There is this man and he is married (NY) to another man. I thought it was all simple. Then I found out that one of them men is transgendered. ????? Looks like a guy to me. Does it mean he is a she? Or *was* a she? If one is really a woman are they still a gay couple? It was so simple in the “old days” when everything was vaguely mentioned in passing. Not that I am not full supportive of *ALL* people – I do not believe in isolating people because of any characteristic/belief, etc. Certain things my brain can’t wrap it self around. The endless universe. Subatomic particles. Gender identity. I need to open another bottle of gin….

          • October 31, 2013 at 10:33 PM

            Seriously. I’ve seen three this year, one of whom I work with and I’m not good with figuring these things out. I’m also not good at spotting weaves.

            However people who dislike Wendy do call her Wendell on the internet. She’s a polarizing figure. When she was on the radio back when I was growing up, she was cool because she told the truth about things in entertainment. I used to watch her show up until last year but she’s changed. She’s meaner, now. I can’t bother.

    • October 31, 2013 at 2:39 PM

      More proof that she is a mean bitch.

      • IamNobodysHW
        October 31, 2013 at 9:33 PM

        WW reminds me of a slinky, doesn’t serve much purpose but puts a smile on my face when pushed down a flight of stairs LOL

    • black enga
      October 31, 2013 at 9:45 PM

      My friend at work told me that WW was dressed as wonder woman today,lol. She really likes that show,lol, So much for personal taste. She said that WW said Wonder Women was her favorite super hero. You think she told Melissa and she copied her? Boy, I wonder sometimes.

  33. October 31, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Scott Dunlop, the man responsible for creating Rel Housewives Franchise. Here is what we could have been watching;

    “Dunlop said his original idea was to create a scripted/unscripted satire called “Behind the Gates” looking askance at life in Coto, a 4,400-home, 5,000-acre development bordering the Cleveland National Forest. The guard-gated community includes 3,000-square-foot homes as well as 50-acre compounds and gated homes. There are tennis courts, riding trails and two golf courses. According to census figures, residents are 89% white. (Notable exception: Snoop Dogg, who reportedly owns a home there.)”

    Read more: http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Board=TheRealHousewivesOfOC&Number=3030008#ixzz2jKqW7wDU

    • October 31, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      “As a small, itty-bitty, teeny tiny asterisk, I do find it interesting that the producer of the Real Housewives shows is Mr. Scott Dunlop. A dude. Knowing this, the show makes a lot more sense. Ostensibly, this program is marketed to me: a snarky middle-aged woman with enough disposable income to professionally color her hair. But there is a strong undercurrent of male fantasy going on in the Real Housewives world. Hot chicks- or aging hens desperate to be called hot chicks- totter around wearing heels and fake tits, throwing things at each other and making sure that no one looks at her man a beat too long. Now, I never took a women’s studies class in college[1]but the Real Housewives feels a lot more patriarchy and a lot less matriarchy.”

  34. Grand-Beth
    October 31, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    LMAO….. I just saw a picture in S**R mag of AndyAssHole walking his dog in NY with his finger up his nose with the headline “Digging for gold?”.

    • October 31, 2013 at 8:25 PM

      Yes and he admitted it on WWHL last week! I could tell he was very pis&^d about the whole thing!!!!!

    • October 31, 2013 at 10:05 PM

      so that’s why meho and mssandusky hit it off,,, BOTH GOLD DIGGERS, …THAT IS SO FUNNY ,HEY I MADE A FUNNY,,PEOPLE !!!!!EXCEPT IT IS A TRUE FUNNY

      • October 31, 2013 at 11:06 PM

        Oh miss celi you are cracking me up!

  35. Miami53
    October 31, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    OT-Could someone tell me what city does Sushi Lookers sisters, the hags/nanny live? The older hag posted pictures of the kids trick or treating. Is Franklin Lakes close to Tom Rivers?

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      October 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM

      Franlkin Lakes is up in the northern part of the state. Toms River is about halfway down the coast – about 2 hours away

  36. pjbottoms
    November 4, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Thanks for the hat tip Fame:) I find it ironic that all the people Melissa has accused of being Tre’s soldiers or bringing to national TV just happened to be at the 2nd PFS. Kim D also stopped short of saying she’ll do anything asked by producers to bring ratings. Kim D knows she is being used by producers but she doesn’t care because she admits it (“brings drama” means “do what producers ask”) and it is good for her business. The only time Kim D gets mad is if you mess with her business. Kim G, on the other hand, really thinks of herself as a NJ housewife. She was asked to film with Danielle season 2 because no one would film with her. Kim G felt she did more than just film, but Kim G actually intoduced Danilelle to her group of fancy friends and let Danielle use her driver (which was a huge deal to Kim G apparently) Now Kim D was also asked to be apart of Kim G’s filming but was not interested. Probably to keep the rest of the cast shopping at Posche. It turned out Danilee was a pain in the ass to film with –would cancel engagements, etc. And Kim G did not like Danny and the hoodlums. I so also think Kim G thought she could also film with Jax and Caro but Caro refused. In the end Kim G chose Jax over Danielle. But after Danielle left, Kim G served her purpose. She was asked to be on Season 3 finale but refused. Interestingly enough it was Kim G who Jax ran crying to after Season 3 finale. Kim G has given a lot of interviews–all rather pathetic.

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