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Monica Chacon, Kim G, Bob and Kim Hiza, the Gorgas, the Wakiles and Jacqueline Laurita Have a Vendetta Against Teresa Giudice

October 27, 2013

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In October 2011, just after the reunion special for season 3 premiered, Kim G tweeted some revealing information which linked Monica Chacon, Bob and Kim Hiza, and Jacqueline Laurita to her vendetta against Teresa Giudice (this was also a few weeks after strippergate was taped on September 27, 2011 for the season 4 finale – Kim G tweeted that she watched the fashion show unfold from her condo balcony across the street).

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The Gorgas are linked to both Bob Hiza and Monica Chacon, who prepared a deed for a property Joe Gorga and Bob Hiza jointly purchased in March 2005 (Joe Gorga and Bob Hiza purchased about 10 distressed properties together from the city of Paterson, NJ, around that time period).

Further linking the Gorgas, along with the Wakiles, to the Hizas is the scene they taped for season 3 episode 6 – the couples went to the Hiza’s home for dinner, where they talked about the Giudice’s bankruptcy. The following are recaps about the dinner at the Hiza’s home.

After leaving his meeting with Teresa, Joe and Melissa meet at their accountant Kim and Bob Hiza’s house and have dinner with them along with cousins Kathy and Rich. Not long after beginning the meal, the conversation turns to Teresa and her troubles. Melissa, Kathy, Rich and Bob start to gossip about Teresa’s problems with her brother and the upcoming auction on her belongings. Although the relationship between Joe and his sister is strained he defends her saying she is going through a rough time right now and they shouldn’t be discussing it. [StarPulse]

Kathy and Rich are visiting the “Gorga Family Accountants”, also known as the Hizas who have hired a chef to cater their dinner which is apparently just not the Italian way according to Kathy. Of course, the conversation is about Joe vs. Teresa – otherwise known as the ONLY topic of conversation in Franklin Lakes, NJ. Joe is very sedate in describing the convo and admits that Teresa seemed like she is trying. The Hizas, obviously feeling smug that they are not the Giudices’ accountants, snark on their impending remediation auction and call Teresa “rude.” I noticed only Joe said anything at all in her defense and admits he would help his sister if she asked. Kathy issues some sage advice: “mindless spending will catch up with you eventually,” in reference to the Giudice bankruptcy as a result of their depleting Italy of all its marble tiles. [RealityTea]

After the meeting, Joe and Melissa meet up with Kathy and Rich Wakile at the home of family friends and accountants Bob and Kim Hiza. “The Hizas are not traditional Italians,” Wakile said. “They had a chef prepare the meal. It was nice, it was very nice. I told Kim, I have to cook for her. I have to teach her a few things.” Melissa refuses wine, saying she was sick from being worried over Joe. He tells them about the meeting with Teresa. “Everything went OK,” he said. “Did she apologize? Yes. Was she sincere? I’m not sure.” Melissa tells Kathy that when everything is peaceful between her and Teresa, she is going to talk to her about Wakile. Wakile tells Gorga not to worry about it. “If she wants to have me in her life, she’ll have me in her life,” Wakile said. “Listen, she’s going through some hard times,” Joe said. Again, the topic of the auction comes up, this time from Bob Hiza. Rich Wakile says he absolutely would have helped his ailing cousins-in-law if he had known they were in bankruptcy. Gorga agrees. [MontvillePatch]

The following is an excerpt about the dinner with the Hizas from Melissa’s Bravo blog.

Anyway, I’m glad you get to see our dinner with Kathy and Rich at Kim and Bob Hiza’s house. You can clearly see that we had the perfect opportunity to discuss Teresa and Joe Giudice’s financial problems, but we took the high road as we always do when that topic is brought up in the press, on the show, and around other people. We are not out to get Teresa or talk about their legal issues. When I say I want this family to get back together, I truly do mean it. I want our kids to play together, and I want us to spend time together as a family. I never sat down with Teresa face-to-face until now, but I stand by what I wrote above. Let’s sit down talk about our issues and fix them, for real.

BTW, Kim G was married to Kim D’s stepbrother so, technically, they used to be sister-in-laws.

After the Giudices were indicted on July 29, 2013 for money fraud, Kim G (‏@Kimgranatell) was called out for her tweets about Teresa going to prison, and on July 31, 2013, she tweeted:

I’M AS RICH AS SHIT –YOU CAN ALL KISS MY ASS!! HAHA! @celebritymagnet

On October 24, 2013, Kim G tweeted (her last tweet to date):

Love my fabulous brand new multi bedroom NYC Condo….and did not have to commit mortgage, bank, or wire fraud to get it!!!

The following is a recap by Eudie Pak of the Gorga’s 2010 Christmas party, which aired in season 3 episode 10 – this is the party where producers and Melissa had Kim G bring Monica Chacon (who had a confrontation at the courthouse with Teresa earlier that day) – Monica introduced herself as “the lawyer suing Teresa” (Kim Hiza is pictured with Kathy Wakile and Kim G in the photos below).

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By Eudie Pak, xfinity.comcast.net
July 25, 2011

On Sunday night’s “Real Housewives of New Jersey,” Melissa and Joe decided to throw a $50K party for “Jesus’ Birthday” to raise money for charity and show off how new money they could be. But what’s a party without some threat of violence and ego-driven chest-thumping from a handful of unsavory chimps?

Over the course of two episodes, we were able to see families torn apart, families sticking together, and Kim G. viciously speaking on behalf of her sagging bandonka donk’s reputation. (You can pole dance all you want, woman—but gravity has taken its toll!)

Check out how the holiday hysterics went down:

Blood Is Thinner Than Water

Decked out in heavy black eye make-up and a teased-out beehive to look like an extra from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, Kathy tries to extend an olive branch to Teresa, but the latter ain’t feeling any love for her cousin.

“It’s nice to see you,” Kathy says. “Now it’s nice to see me?” Teresa sarcastically retorts.

Trying to keep her cool after being rejected for a second time, Miss Bulging Eyes dashes into the bathroom—with hubby Rich following suit—and cries out bloody curses on her small-foreheaded cousin.

“She’s such a f**king b*tch!” she screams.“F**k that b*tch.”

“You f**king rip her a new a**hole!,” eggs on hubby Rich as he sits on the crapper and uses the last roll of Charmin.

Duck Tales

Vowing to get her revenge for Teresa’s “old lady butt crack” jokes, Kim G. brings along Monica Chacon—the lawyer suing the Giudices—to create Danielle Staubgoblin-like drama.

When Teresa sees her legal enemy prancing about with Old Lady Butt Crack, her lip liner turns darker with rage, and she demands Melissa and Joe to kick Monica to the curb! Trying to keep their expensive tables unflipped, sis-in-law and bro politely ask the uninvited guest to leave, but Kim G. puts up a fuss—but thankfully, to no avail. Eventually, Monica takes a hike.

In search of more trouble, Kim G. continues to talk smack about Teresa, while the latter is busy making fun of her enemy’s inflatable “duck lips.”

The Manzo Mafia

Sick of hearing the Ole Gossip spew her venom, Caroline’s daughter tells her to stop being pathetic, which makes Kim freak out on her, which makes Caroline jump in to protect her chickadee.

Mother Hen blasts the shiny-faced geriatric meddler—who’s apparently addicted to Groupon deals for chemical peels—for coming to Jesus’ Birthday party with the intention of stirring up Armageddon. As Kim-bo screams all crazy-like denying she has bad motives, Caroline’s son Christopher rushes in to save the foolish woman from getting devoured by his clan (his reason for playing nice only due to the fact he’s BFFs with her son Johnny).

As he escorts her outside, Kim G.’s “bodyguard,” who’s busy cleaning his dentures in a backroom, looks around bewildered. Before the younger Manzo bro can respectfully ask Kimmie-kins to leave for her own sake, big bro Albie angrily intervenes, telling her she’s not welcome back into this house that’s not his! Likewise, Mama Manzo charges out the door, along with her hubby, and exclaims she better take her high school shenanigans elsewhere—or they might just have Old Lady Butt Crack burgers for dinner!

As Kim G. furiously stomps into her limo, Teresa and hubby Joe delightfully watch the scene from a distance and decide to celebrate by doing what they do best: bumping into each other’s dangly parts all night until Joe gets hungry and wants to eat a “sangwich.” Tis the season to be Jersey!

Kim Hiza is a member of Kim Granatell’s crew, “The New Jersey Socialites“ (photo below), which is a reality show Kim G was trying to get picked up in January 2013.

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Kim Hiza is pictured below with Kathy Wakile and Kim G attending Kim D’s holiday party in December 2010. The event was sponsored by illluminationPR.com, which represented Melissa Gorga at the time and then went on to represent the Wakiles.

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  1. black enga
    October 27, 2013 at 2:59 AM

    This story has so many twist and turns that it’s absolutely mind boggling. Hatred runs deep in all of them. The dept of the betrayal is truly a shame.

    Thanks Fame.

    • patriciafromco
      October 27, 2013 at 3:58 AM

      #sinister is the best description that I saw posted it should follow all of the tweets to them.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      It obviously started with one rat, Jacqueline. She turns to Kim G. Kim G. got Jacqueline to tell her everything she knew about Teresa and Joe, and then Kim G. made a few connections herself and got the ball rolling.
      You know, who is Kim G.? She claims she made her own fortune but she’s not very well spoken and she has a foul mouth. Her driver looks more like a gangster thug than a professional chauffeur. Is Kim G. Involved with drugs? Perhaps she’s a big king/Queenpin? She seems to have a lot of power for an average professional a phone company.

      I Really Want To Know Kim Granatell’s Dirty Secrets, starting with her supposedly, ex-husband (only an ex to save the family fortune) and find out what he does for a living.

      • October 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM

        Comment from September 1, 2010:

        Kim Granatell’s husband owns Grant Industries. They produce, among other things, a specialty ingredient for Estee Lauder. The company is a few generations old and her husband was born wealthy (Granatell Stadium at Don Bosco).

        Kim G has been separated for about 7 years and her husband comes from serious money — owner of a privately held chemical company — Grant Chemicals which does sell stuff to Estee — but I assume does more than that since they manufactured hydrolized proteins and other products.

        Her husband’s company produces a cosmetics extract for Estee Lauder. Kim Granatell also derives income from rental properties.

        http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/3171337-the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/page-436

        Kim Granatell is now divorced.

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM

          Okay, thank you. The reason I was curious is becuase Kim G. said she earned the lifestyle from her own career with I think “Verizon” or some phone corporation. Either way, I guess I may as well delete her husband from my brain. lol Thanks for the info. Fame.

        • Sharon
          October 28, 2013 at 3:44 AM

          Holy Crap that Link is pretty crazy. We should borrow the “jackal” nickname. So fitting.

    • ChooChoo
      October 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM

      Maybee the Gorgas and Walkies were already in trouble with the Feds when they came on the show…and promised to turn over evidence on bigger fish. We all know the manzo’s were doing shady stuff probably alot with Al’s bff., and what ever the Laritas we up to….So the rest of group got worried and thought let’s all work together to bring the Gudice’s down….Just wonder when the manzo’s found out the Gorgas/Walkies they were working w/the feds….I bet it was about the time Jaq and Caro tried to question Teresa at jaq house that day…..Now that the Gudices have been charged they were worried the gudices….would turn on them….They sure have been nicer to tre since then….but I also believe they know JOE/TERESA would never trade info on any of them because they truly are old school…and will take it to trial
      and take resp….

      • Wilbur
        October 27, 2013 at 6:40 PM

        Please stop. The Feds don’t need informants for tax and bankruptcy issues. All these conspiracy issues damage Teresa and make her appear to be al Capone.

        • dch60
          October 28, 2013 at 11:46 AM

          Agree. Whether or not they fed info to Monica is another story although I wonder just how much info any of them could have actually known about the Guidices… but okay… maybe they ratted them out a bit… that much I’ll buy even though I don’t believe they had to dig too deep to uncover most of the charges. On the other hand, Fame posted what little unsecured debt the Guidices had… $1 million give or take… they are FAR from “big fish.” Actually, I believe the Lauritas are “bigger fish” than the Guidices. Lauritas’ $55 million business bankruptcy fraud did more damage to more creditors… Guidices’ didn’t even come close. Add to that Chris’s tampering with evidence… claiming he didn’t have a computer he actually did have and wiping it clean before he turned it over to them. Seriously? The Feds aren’t going to let that slide for disclosing Teresa’s fudged W2 forms.

          Everything else aside… I cannot believe just how unprofessional this Monica moron is in being filmed saying just how badly she wanted to “bring the Guidices down” for what’s obviously a personal vendetta. Kim G’s tweet rants above are beyond crazy IMO. If this was a NJ Superior Court, criminal part case, I believe the Guidices may have had a conflict of interest defense. I can’t believe ANY judge can be happy with Chacon’s antics. An attorney who is directly involved in ANY case should NEVER rant and rave that they have personal issues with any particular defendant(s) and Chacon has done this in one of the worst ways possible… on reality television! Chacon comes across as being completely unstable just like her good friends Jac Laurita and Kim G. It’s mind blowing… disgusting… pathetic. How many people here would hire Monica as your attorney… raise your hands!

    • vallygirl
      October 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      Yea well may GOD help KimG.
      KimG needs to remember that karma is real we all pay in one way or another when we hurt others and KimG doesn’t fear GOD. But, we all have our ahha moments when our lives are shaken up.
      May GOD have mercy on KimG.

    • October 28, 2013 at 4:03 PM

      Maybe, just maybe, this is the whole “Teresa needs to say she’s sorry” bit…..because of this , this is why the “heat was brought on???? Didn’t Tb say in a TH that “he even threw people out of his home for his sister”…or something like that?

      • Jack Hole
        October 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM

        Idk but I know Melissa has brought it up several times!!

  2. adioslunatic
    October 27, 2013 at 6:13 AM

    These “people” are pure evil.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 27, 2013 at 3:35 PM

      You know, it could be that maybe Joe Gorga really is innocent. Maybe Joe Gorga denied knowing Chacon because he was scared out of his own mind when she came to the party? There is no doubt that Kim Granatell started everything that is happening using Jacqueline to do it. I don’t doubt at the time that Jacqueline was happy to oblige Kim G.
      I could be very wrong and Joe Gorga helped to set Teresa up but at the same token, I can’t help but feel that Joe Gorga got scared. He knew he was on camera so he wanted to appear unafraid and calm. He also wanted to make it clear that he didn’t know who Monica Chacon was. Kim G. is pissed and has it in for Teresa and it’s more than just because Teresa called her an elderly woman because if that comment pissed off Kim G. to this degree, then why would Kim G. allow Caroline Manzo a pass when Caroline publicly humiliated Kim G. when she had her sons throw Kim and Monica out of a party? Kim G. is pissed and focused on Teresa and not equally pissed with Caroline, if not more so than Teresa. What’s Up With Kim G.? I want her life story.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 27, 2013 at 3:41 PM

        And, as far as I’m concerned, The Only Rats Here Are Really Jacqueline And Kim Granatell. I would Never Trust Either Family. Not The Laurita’s and Not The Granatell’s. RATS! We see first hand what they do when they have information on people… they get mad and contact the feds. In this case, they got Monica Chacon to contact the feds but a rat is a rat regardless of who snitches to the feds.

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM

          I just found this so maybe this is why Kim G. Is pissed. I don’t know. Honestly, I really don’t know. It’s about Kim Granatell’s daughter being sucked into some vacation rental scam.

          http://celebritymagnet.com/blog/2012/07/former-rhonj-castmate-kim-gs-daughter-caught-up-in-hamptons-scam/

          • Rosalie Marie,
            October 28, 2013 at 3:41 PM

            Forget the link above I posted. At first I just thought all this real estate, loans and vacation scams could be a link but it’s not. I don’t know. I just thought it was ironic that of all the people, it was Kim Granatell’s daughter who was scammed in of all things, a vacation rental.

        • October 28, 2013 at 5:39 PM

          They (Lauritas, Walikes, Kim G, Monica, Hiza and company) are definitely rats but IMHO the Gorgas (at least Melissa) were deeply involved in this shade too.
          Remember when Teresa said something about having the locks changed on her parents house because of papers, documents, etc being kept there? And something about not letting Melissa in their house unattended anymore? If the Guidices were keeping sensitive documents off their own property and found out that certain ones were missing, I would guess they were worried about someone finding and using the info against them.
          The Guidices are small fish and the only reason to “take them down” was purely hatred and jealousy. It would be cool if they turned on the rats – but that is just not old school behavior. Then again, if it gets Teresa off the hook and lightens the burden on her husband…..I would hope they would give the authorities enough information to drowned the rats!

      • October 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

        I think Kim reacted to Teresa’s comment about her age the same way Teresa reacted to Danielle saying “Pay attention pu-lease.”

        Both personalities can get set off easily if a certain nerve is hit. Teresa felt talked down to as though she were stupid and flipped out on Danielle. Kim is sensitive about her age and couldn’t let it go that Teresa joked about her old butt. Caroline didn’t attack her personally, but had her removed because of circumstances, so Kim can let that go. And during the times when Tre made elderly comments about Kim, Caroline in a way defended her by reminding Teresa that she is close to Kim’s age and to knock it off. I can see Kim letting go of the Caroline incident. But she wants Teresa to pay for the elderly remarks.

        • October 27, 2013 at 7:17 PM

          Kim G was once a productive gold digger, she used her looks to get what she wanted. The last thing she wants to hear is someone reminding her that she can not compete with younger gold diggers. Her and Jac make good needy friends, misery loves company. Jac has scared the bejeebers out of me because she is the ultimate example of the negative side of a Taurus gone wild, with the help of alcohol and botox.

          Negative side of Taurus and Jac
          1. When a Taurus starts taking EVERYTHING so seriously,. ( Juicy, the kids, and friends keep Teresa doing silly things and take her mind off of serious issues. Jac does not have that, she did when Teresa and her were close, but once she cut Teresa out, she was surrounded by Caroline, Kim G and others who kept her mind against Teresa )
          2. When a Taurus becomes fixated in their thinking. ( Juicy helps Teresa let go of things and sometimes he has to tell her to knock it off already. Jac has people running in all directions avoiding conversation because she is going to talk about Teresa )
          3. When a Taurus refuses to listen when someone is trying to talk ” La la la” lol

          • GPM
            October 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM

            What an very insightful post! I especially agree with your thought that Kim G was once a productive gold digger and that the last thing she wants to hear is someone reminding her that she cannot compete with younger gold diggers.

            It’s obvious to me that — in her day — Kim G was quite lovely, at least on the outside. Had there been a Real Housewives franchise at that time, she may well have been on it.

            Sadly, time and opportunity did not coincide to Kim’s benefit and that has been clearly been very difficult for her to accept. She seems beyond desperate to be on television, which is too pitiful and painful to watch. And the ugliness of her tweets after Teresa’s indictment imply a mental state that is shockingly ugly and potentially unbalanced.

            Whenever I think of Kim G I think of the movie What Ever Happened to Baby Jane . . . not a pretty picture! I really have no desire to know anything more about her.
            .

            • October 28, 2013 at 11:34 AM

              Remember when she ran across the street over to Posche, desperate for camera time? One of the first things she ranted to Melissa and Kathy was Tre’s comment about her old butt, saying she wishes she had a body like mine, etc. Clearly, she was holding a grudge over that comment. She is very sensitive about her age, and yes the gold digging theory is spot on!

          • suedechik79
            October 28, 2013 at 3:54 PM

            Amen to the Taurus talk.

            Theresa and Joe seem to be a very balanced pair, unless the cameras aren’t there for all the stuff the rest of the cast always talks about and they actually have a terrible marriage. I seriously doubt the latter. The entire chart needs to be taken into account, but sun signs can give you a good approximation of a coupling. Also, when one sign follows the next, (like how a Gemini comes after Taurus on the zodiac wheel), there is a natural admiration/understanding between the pair. It is said that the sign following yours already has the knowledge of your life lessons within it. Not to be taken literally – I am not one to believe that we all travel the zodiac wheel and get to the next level in different lives or that the sign ahead of you is any smarter than you. Perhaps its better to look at it as a person is born at a time that carries that energy’s signature and thereby embodies it. This can translate into jealousy, as well (ie Melissa and Theresa).

          • Anonymous
            October 28, 2013 at 8:04 PM

            Jac is a Taurus?

            • suedechik79
              October 29, 2013 at 3:38 PM

              Kathy Libra, Dina Pisces, Caroline Leo, Danielle Cancer, Theresa Taurus, Jac Taurus, Melissa Aries

        • FishCrackKat
          October 27, 2013 at 8:14 PM

          I truly do not think Kim G cares at all about sensitivity to age but Teresa truly shouldn’t have said that and there had to be more to the story, I just think she has enough money to buy an sell someone’s A’hole a hundred times over in her town and if you cross her she will take you down. That’s the power of money my friends. watch who you F with.
          I. for one, wouldn’t mess with her. Right wrong or indifferent money talks and apparently her money screams.

          • dch60
            October 28, 2013 at 11:49 AM

            I agree… like it or not, money is power.

      • October 28, 2013 at 7:21 AM

        Joey and Melissa knew Monica Chacon , knew she was coming and knew why she was coming. Just look at the Christening, calling his sister garbage, charging Juicy and crying like a little girl. Then the talking heads-Remember “and we pay our bills ..etc.”? The dinner they and the Wallpapers had at the Hizas’, trashing Tre and Juicy at every turn. You bet they knew!!!!!

        • dch60
          October 28, 2013 at 12:05 PM

          I was going to say the same thing aaacccp. I absolutely believe they knew she was coming and it was their intention to humiliate Teresa and/or rile her up. Their talking heads were months after the party and they ALL lied, lied, lied through them all. If TB decided to say he didn’t know Monica because he was “scared” and he really had no idea she was coming… how could he have been certain she would go along with it? If it actually happened organically… Monica was getting kicked out of the party… she was basically being shamed into leaving because of Teresa of all people! Why would she let TB lie about not knowing her and let Teresa “win”?

          How ridiculous! We can’t even be sure when these people are being real or when they’re acting in order to humiliate a family member. We have no idea when they’re lying or being truthful. I take that back… we know when they’re lying… when they’re lips are moving… lol So cliche yet too fitting to resist it.

          • aaacccp
            October 28, 2013 at 12:09 PM

            Yes!! 🙂

        • vallygirl
          October 28, 2013 at 2:24 PM

          Yep I remember Meho saying “and we pay our bills”.
          That was before we learned that SloJoe lost his parent’s house.
          What kind of lowlife does that?

          • Jack Hole
            October 29, 2013 at 6:10 AM

            That was like, I think episode 1 or 2 of S3…whichever, I just know that when she made that comment I had such a negative reaction! I was so taken aback that someone could be so cruel on TV!!! It was the nastiest feeling towards her (and the rest of them) from then on in…in fact, when she made the bills comment I knew EXACTLY what was going down(this predates my blog presence, even on Bravo, I did not know any of the back or side stories!)! Melissa and Joe Gorga are pathetic to say the absolute least!!

            • Jack Hole
              October 29, 2013 at 6:55 AM

              That comment right there is all the evidence the Giudice girls need to see regarding their “aunt and uncle” trash-talking their parents on TV!! And that Melissa would say something so demeaning and dismissive about her kid’s blood relatives just shows the mindset of these maniacs! This is the main reason why I NEVER understood how/why so many thousands of ppl give her the pass and buy into the whole “I want to fix this family” bit!! Hello morons! From the outset she was being a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!! Ppl that want to fix things don’t go out of their way to highlight the bad and ugh!! As you see, clearly this comment still burns me!! Lol, smdh!!!!

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 28, 2013 at 4:00 PM

          AAA, Oh I do recall Melissa saying that! “And We Pay Our Bills!” I knew from that moment on, I would Never like Melissa.

          • aaacccp
            October 28, 2013 at 4:01 PM

            Same here!

  3. Deb G
    October 27, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    God help all them, he sees all and one day they will answer for all of this! I agree with “sinister”, best word to describe all of them. Is all of this why Andy didn’t ask the Lauritas about their issues???

    • Deb G
      October 27, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      Oops, I meant God help all of them.

    • FishCrackKat
      October 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

      Listen, when you have the feds on your ass and you yourself have possible prison time for stealing everyone else’s invested money, used company money to hire private jets and take lavish vacations, so on and so forth, I bet you wouldn’t think twice about ratting your own sister out let alone your friend to save your own ass. That is what Jac did. That is probably the reason why Andy doesn’t bring her dirt to the surface, or the Manzo’s, or the Wakile’s because they made a deal with the feds. Give us what we want and we will not air your laundry and perhaps cut you a break. It is so obvious. Why cant people see this.

      • Deb G
        October 27, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        FishCrackKat, I agree with you, but, why would the feds let the rest of them get away with their wrong doings????

        • FishCrackKat
          October 27, 2013 at 7:52 PM

          Well, I imagine its the same as if you are in organized crime, the canaries sing and in return avoids serious charges. Becomes an asset and RAT verses a criminal they want.

          • FishCrackKat
            October 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM

            I don’t know I don’t think Jac wanted to do it, I actually think Jac has a good heart and a conscience and her husband seems like a genuinely nice person, why else would she get all crazy and hit the bottle as hard as she did. Some things you cant fake or act out (I was watching her actions on television weren’t anyone else?) and she truly loved Teresa and I bet she felt horrible turning against her in any way but perhaps didn’t have much of a choice. It must be so hard for a person to be married into a family that dictates your every move. Controls you and manipulates you. Look what happened with Danielle. What was Danielle’s crime? Nothing, absolutely nothing. She simply became friends with Jac and the Don didn’t approve. To the Don everyone and everything is a threat. I believe when you are guilty of so much you start questioning everyone around you and becoming paranoid about them for fear they could start flapping their lips.

            • October 28, 2013 at 7:10 AM

              Sorry-married to the Mob or not, JacDaniels is still responsible for her own behavior. Sorry,but I think Chris Laurita is a low down crook.

              • FishCrackKat
                October 28, 2013 at 8:58 AM

                You know something? Nothing pisses me off more than these illusions being swallowed up by so many that ANY of them are in any way, shape, or form associated with Mafia. I used the MAFIA as an example nothing more on how some are known to have turned Canary. You are entitled to your opinion of Chris and Jac I am simply saying how I feel about it.

                • aaacccp
                  October 28, 2013 at 9:28 AM

                  “Nothing pisses me off more than these illusions being swallowed”, not sure what you mean? Do you believe that Tiny Manzo was I the Mob?

                  • Miami53
                    October 28, 2013 at 11:11 AM

                    Oh, yea….I never had a friend or relative be found naked and bound up with a certain organ in his mouth stashed in a trunk…

                    • aaacccp
                      October 28, 2013 at 11:14 AM

                      Oh come on, that happens all the time 😉 NOT

                    • October 28, 2013 at 11:29 AM

                      Hey Miami53, that part about the organ in his mouth is not true, based on all the accounts that I’ve read. It must have been started as a rumor and took off from there.

                    • Miami53
                      October 28, 2013 at 11:48 AM

                      Okay, Fame…sorry about the wrong info…but he was found naked in the trunk…right

                    • October 28, 2013 at 11:49 AM

                      Yes, Miamai53, he was:

                      The 350-pound mobster’s naked body – the arms and legs wrapped in plastic – was found bound and gagged in the trunk of his parked Lincoln-Continental outside a supermarket in Hillside, N.J. – there were four bullet wounds in his torso.

                      https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/caroline-manzos-father-in-law-tiny-manzo-had-been-the-biggest-mob-enforcer-in-new-jersey/

              • Miami53
                October 28, 2013 at 11:12 AM

                If someone had to have a certain look, he doesn’t look like a crook…a couple of the other husbands do…

              • Rosalie Marie,
                October 28, 2013 at 4:08 PM

                AAA,
                JacDaniels… That’s the best! That is truly one of a kind and original. Love It!

                • aaacccp
                  October 28, 2013 at 4:12 PM

                  🙂

            • Deb G
              October 28, 2013 at 7:24 AM

              I agree with you about Danielle, as a matter of fact, I wasn’t a Teresa fan with all that went down with her. I always feel bad for the underdog, but, then it became Teresa’s turn and I became a fan!! I do think Chris is shady and there is a lot more going on there. What goes around comes around. I agree with you about the Don,lol.

              • Rosalie Marie,
                October 28, 2013 at 4:30 PM

                Deb,
                Remember when Chris confronted Joe Giudice’ about the shady comment to characterize Chris as a person? Joe admitted to making the ‘shady’ comment. I think Joe was telling Chris, “yes, I said it and it’s something I want you to think about if you and your wife don’t keep your mouths shut!”
                Teresa kept saying in season 4 that she was told not to trust Jacqueline.
                Season 5, Teresa told Jacqueline that Karma comes back to your kids.

                • Deb G
                  October 28, 2013 at 11:06 PM

                  Rosalie, that’s why I like Joe Giudice he isn’t a hypocrite he owns what he says. I think Chris is shady.

            • GPM
              October 28, 2013 at 10:28 AM

              Her husband’s a con man and, if anything thinks he’s a genuinely nice person, that only shows how good he is at it!

      • October 28, 2013 at 7:11 AM

        Good points-what IS going on with their case??????

  4. October 27, 2013 at 8:03 AM

    Jacqueline is a backstabber who helped take Teresa down, KIm G and Monica Chacon were so jealous of Teresa that they made it their personal vendetta to ruin her. I do smell something fishy about Teresa and Jac making up. I know I would never forgive a friend who acted like she did. Maybe Teresa promised she would not reveal any of Jac’s secrets. Teresa does seem loyal to a fault.

    • October 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM

      Becasue Jac was like a sister to Teresa.
      Ah Jac and the twitter performance about forgiveness, Jesus and the Christmas of 2011.

      Dina Manzo “The most dangerous ‘Hateful’ people are the ones who has everyone convinced that their angels… eventually the ugly comes out for all the world to see.”

      • October 28, 2013 at 7:04 AM

        Great Dina quote, makes me think of Kathy.

    • October 28, 2013 at 7:06 AM

      Teresa was just trying to be civil, that’s all. IMO

      • Silvana
        October 28, 2013 at 10:54 PM

        When I think about how Teresa made up with jac one phrase pops into my mind ” keep ur friends close and your enemy’s closer”

        • aaacccp
          October 30, 2013 at 6:36 AM

          Bingo!!!!!

  5. Sylvia smith
    October 27, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    I truly believe that Teresa only made peace, “on paper.” She needs to shut Jacqueline up. Like a scorned lover, Jacqueline will track Teresa to the ends of the earth just to have some kind, any kind of relationship with the object of her obsession. She’s a complete, certified lunatic. Much safer to shut her down by saying, let’s be friends, I forgive you. One less active enemy throwing darts. I don’t see evidence of any real relationships on twitter, socially.

    • October 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      That’s what I think as well Sylvia.

    • October 27, 2013 at 5:02 PM

      She does seem like a scorned lover.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 27, 2013 at 6:05 PM

        Exactly.

      • October 28, 2013 at 7:03 AM

        She is just so emotionally immature.

        • suedechik79
          October 29, 2013 at 3:40 PM

          someone that had a kid in their teens remains emotionally stunted? not surprised

      • adioslunatic
        October 28, 2013 at 7:25 AM

        Jackhole was the same way with Danielle; Grannypants accused Jackhole of her over-obsession of Danielle at Teresa’s housewarming party.
        Jackhole is one sick, evil little troll. And she has a bona-fide Histrionic personality disorder.
        Baaaaad combo…Methinks Grannypants is an HPD herself and get two of them together with the same goal ( destruction of Teresa for real/imagined slights) and well, there you have it. Ratty grannypants ( Chacon) is probably a straight up NPD ( Narcissistic Personality DIsorder) and cannot take ANYONE not genuflecting to her.

        As we all know, Jackhole tends to flight of fancy and can make up crap on the fly. Methinks she was telling tales that others took as gospel and they ran with it- right to the feds.

        Everyone knows there does not have to be hard and fast evidence for an indictment – ham sandwich, anyone?

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 28, 2013 at 4:37 PM

      Amen Sylvia.
      Remember when Ashley pulled Danielle’s hair in season 2? While Danielle sat in Kim Granatell’s car, Jacqueline was standing outside, behind the car just staring at it. Her eyes were fixated on the car where Danielle was sitting. I Knew Then And There That Jacqueline Was No Good. I knew Jacqueline was a very aggressive, spiteful person.

      • October 28, 2013 at 9:29 PM

        Totally forgot about that! It was creepy.

        • Deb G
          October 28, 2013 at 11:15 PM

          It was creepy. Just like Chris lurking on the deck listening to her and Teresa, creepy!

  6. Melissaver
    October 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    OK, just my thughts…

    Further proof the Joke is on Bravo viewers. It seems obvious now that ALL the NJ cast are/were in shady business. I think at some point they were all business partners and felt like they were on top of the world (season 1 & 2). Business turned sour, friendships and family turned ugly. The rest of bravo’s seasons story lines were completely falsified to compensate for bigger badder blood between all of them. What played out on screen was bitterness that had nothing to do with cookbook comments and stripper rumors. This suff is bigger than we can all imagine, and they are all dirty.

    Thank you fame for helping shed some light on all this! Everyone’s comments have also been very insightful, I eagerly check in each day. I can’t wait to see what unfolds.

    • RahRah
      October 27, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      isn’t that how it always is? pure jealousy.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 28, 2013 at 4:52 PM

        No doubt there is resentment. When this show started, it seemed like the Caroline and Jacqueline family show and suddenly, come season three, it turned into the Teresa show. Even though it was really the let’s victimize Teresa show, it was still focused on Teresa and Caroline and Jacqueline most likely were pissed off feeling “Teresa” took their show from what once was theirs. Teresa Took Their Show!
        Caroline siding with Melissa and Kathy was a strategic plan between Jacqueline and Caroline. Let’s side with Melissa and Kathy to eliminate Teresa. Once Teresa is out of the way, Bravo will throw the sidekicks, Melissa and Kathy, to the curb. They knew without Teresa, Bravo would not keep Melissa and Kathy. Then Caroline and Jacqueline would have their show back. And the show will remain their family show. I don’t think they actually expected Bravo to keep the story going come season 5. Now Caroline figured out that the show is up. She knows she has lost fans turning against Teresa and Jacqueline didn’t help matters with her ranting on twitter. Caroline knew the show will Never Return To Her. So what does Caroline do? I think she threatened Andy to leave, and she meant it. Andy loves Caroline and so rather than let her go, he gives her what she wanted. Her Own Show.
        Caroline’s ego is so huge, she really believes people watched RHONJ just for her. Now she thinks viewers will follow her because she’s what they want to watch.
        Caroline’s ego will hit reality when her show is cancelled.

        • October 28, 2013 at 9:35 PM

          Totally agree. Very nice summary.

    • pjbottoms
      October 27, 2013 at 5:57 PM

      I totally agree! I also think it bothers the cast to no end that even with the Gudice’s financial decisions (mistakes) out in the open, Teresa remains the most beloved cast member. More importantly annoying to them is Teresa has an established brand that continues to expand. Who needs a friend like Kim G? I don’t think Kim G is upset about her old lady butt- crack being the butt ( sorry I had to go there) of Teresa’s joke. I think Kim G will do anything to be relevant for Reality TV. They are all using Kim G and her money and contacts.

    • October 28, 2013 at 7:02 AM

      Hell yes they are ALL dirty.

  7. RahRah
    October 27, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    and why would they want to make up with Teresa?

    The ultimate betrayal..to take your freedom away. Not the stuff they actually did but the seeds planted by their enemies. Is this what the Sr. Gorgas are destroyed about?

    As actual truths are revealed it seems they all have something to worry about and they all seem a hell of a lot more dirtier than they claim the Guidice’s to be.

    I’m just saying…..

    • Melissaver
      October 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM

      Totally agree

    • Deb G
      October 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM

      1000% agree!! Remember when Caroline told Teresa her husband would destroy Joe??

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:58 AM

        …and I think they are working on this everyday. She hates Teresa.

    • Sharon
      October 28, 2013 at 4:01 AM

      @RahRah, yep I wouldn’t doubt that we don’t know half of the dirt. Most if not all of them have mafia ties. Al Manzo’s dad was mafia. The Brownstone came from his dad and maybe it was bought with extortion money. Poison Joe and Juicy associated with mafia run contractors and loan sharks. The Laurita’s are just plain crocked as are the Wakile’s. Maybe Lauren will write a book and let it all out of the bag on everyone. I can see her smiling now.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:59 AM

        This river of corruption runs very very deep.

      • Anonymous
        October 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM

        Ashley is more then likely to be the tell all about all

  8. GPM
    October 27, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    I’ve stumbled across that picture of the pitiful “New Jersey Socialites” before. Their desperation is so pitiful and embarrassing, it’s painful. Talk about “ghetto fab!”

    It makes sense that Grannytell was associated with Michael Lohan.

    • embee
      October 27, 2013 at 7:00 PM

      Even Jacqueline said their photo looked like a “busted up Sex and the City” crew when they went to the police station to press charges against Ashley.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:56 AM

        That WAS a very funny line!

    • October 27, 2013 at 7:34 PM

      Two desperate Famewhores in a pod. What a catch Kim Granatell. I cannot imagine how stupid her husband must have been to marry the likes of that old dust fart.

      • patriciafromco
        October 27, 2013 at 7:48 PM

        if I read it correctly and KG has been separated for 7 years? I wonder if he is afraid to divorce her for what she is capable of causing him great harm…

        • October 27, 2013 at 7:54 PM

          That comment about her being separated for 7 years was from 2010. I believe she got divorced in 2012.

          Another Real Housewives Marriage Ends in Divorce and a Book
          By Tom Murro, Huffington Post
          08/03/2012

          Former Real Housewives of New Jersey castmate, Kim G, revealed that she was going through a divorce during season 3 of the Real Housewives of New Jersey, and could have used friends instead of frenemies who wanted to set her up for a fall.

          “There’s a gang mentality among these housewives,” Kim said. “They gang up on the single woman in the crowd. That was Danielle Staub, and that was me. Would I have been treated like I was if I had a man by my side? Would Caroline have come after me like an attack dog if her husband wasn’t on the other end of her leash? I doubt it. ”

          Kim says she decided to leave the show in part because of what it was doing to her marriage. “My husband told me to quit the show and change my name or he would divorce me. Of course he divorced me anyway,” Kim said laughing, but says she was ready to leave anyway.

          “Most of that bunch don’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of,” Kim said referring to her former cast mates. “They pretend to be something they’re not, they owe everybody, their landscapers, their accountants, even the caterers that throw those fancy parties haven’t been paid, and that’s just not what I’m about. I am who I am, I don’t have that sense of entitlement, I believe in paying my bills. ”

          Kim admits that she did receive a lot of pressure to appear on season 4, like when the producers were texting her to show up at the Posche fashion show, but says for her there was no going back.

          “After what happened to me and Monica at the Gorga’s Christmas party, I knew I would probably be walking into a set up, so I declined. I knew I’d made the right decision the night Jacqueline skipped out on the reunion shoot she showed up at my house in tears, she wanted to see the proof that I was asked to show up at the fashion show, so I showed her the proof she needed. Jacqueline had a friend drop her off, I’m assuming because she didn’t want her husband or any of the Manzos to know she was at my house or that we were still friends.”

          “Jacqueline seemed so traumatized that night, so we sat on my couch, had a few shots of Cafe Patron and chatted ’til 3 a.m., Jacqueline telling me that she hated Teresa Giudice, and that I had been right about her all along. She was crying and completely broken over the mess the show had become and I was comforting her. Jacqueline said she didn’t trust anyone, and she was very disappointed in Teresa. That was the last time I saw her, even though we don’t have issues with each-other. It’s a tough gig.”

          “I could tell you so many things about what goes on behind the scenes that would curl your hair. But I’m past all that now.”

          When asked how life has changed since leaving the show, Kim admits she has had her ups and downs. “I became very isolated. Everybody had the wrong idea about me because of what they saw on ‘reality’ TV,” Kim says. “So I started the Ex-Wives Club, and that really put me on the road back to being in charge of my own life.”

          The Ex-Wives Club, is what Kim calls a group of women that she brought together who are all going through a divorce. “We get together, to compare notes, share advice, or just a hug or a laugh. And we remind each other that this isn’t the end, in fact, it’s the beginning of a whole new and better life.”

          Kim says that the Ex-Wives Club concept is really catching on with women on the verge, has inspired Ex-Wives clubs to start up their own chapters all across the country, and is the subject of her upcoming book and reality show.

          “Starting the Ex-Wives Club was one of the best decisions I ever made, and has brought so many blessings and so many great new friends my way,” said Kim. “It’s great to be around women who are there to support and encourage each other, rather than attacking each-other on national TV just so they can sell more spaghetti sauce.”

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-murro/real-housewives-kim-_b_1680248.html

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 27, 2013 at 11:02 PM

            There is something very suspicious buried in the middle of that: “Jacqueline had a friend drop her off, I’m assuming because she didn’t want her husband or any of the Manzos to know she was at my house or that we were still friends”. Really? Jaqueline needed to be “dropped off” at Kim G’s house? Thier houses are less than 400 feet from each other.

            • Anonymous
              October 28, 2013 at 5:52 AM

              I thought something was mentioned that Kim was at a apartment or condo across the street from the fashion show. She was watching everything go down outside….I could be wrong.

              • October 28, 2013 at 11:37 AM

                You’re right anon. I just added updated this blog to include the bolded part below:

                In October 2011, just after the reunion special for season 3 premiered, Kim G tweeted some revealing information which linked Monica Chacon, Bob and Kim Hiza, and Jacqueline Laurita to her vendetta against Teresa Giudice (this was also a few weeks after strippergate was taped on September 27, 2011 for the season 4 finale – Kim G tweeted that she watched the fashion show unfold from her condo balcony across the street).

                • Silvana
                  October 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

                  What I found odd was that jac was there till 3in the morning where was Chris? Didn’t he realise she wasn’t at home with her children?

            • October 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM

              Perhaps she was just too high or drunk to drive-or even walk? 😉

            • adioslunatic
              October 28, 2013 at 7:34 AM

              @ Saddle

              Perhaps the “friend” was Ratty grannypants (Monica Chacon) and this was the first meeting of the coven that would “take down” the Guidices.

              • LifeIsGood
                October 28, 2013 at 10:10 AM

                I think it was monica. If you recall, kim tweeted that jac AND monica were at her house.

                • adioslunatic
                  October 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM

                  @LIG
                  I don’t follow twitter all that closely so I could have easily missed it…so it WAS Ratty grannypants, huh, how ’bout that…Thanks for the info!

            • October 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM

              Also, they chatted till 3:00 A.M. really now……..I must say, my honey might not miss me for a few hrs. but you bet your sweet cupcake that come bed time, he’s gonna start to wonder where (even drunk) my a$$ is at. Also, didn’t Jack-a-loon ride with Caro-whine? Seems like I recall her pushing her away from T. So if these two haven’t “seen” each other since that night and they only live 400 ft. away from each other, I don’t believe it for a minute. (unless Jack-a-loon went to rehab and grannypants moved while she was gone. Can anyone check to see if granny has sold her house next door since this late night tell all) *.*

          • patriciafromco
            October 28, 2013 at 10:30 AM

            Thanks Fame 🙂

  9. Alex
    October 27, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    “Jacqueline admitted to me what Teresa is all about”…Kim G what does this mean???

    • pjbottoms
      October 27, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      Jac spun Kim G into her web of evilness!

    • dch60
      October 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

      I can’t imagine is was anything earth shattering or else Kim G would have been all over blabbing that to everyone and anyone who would listen to her including tweets. Jac was just pissed that Teresa said to Jac’s face that she thought she was too blame for the PFS fiasco. Teresa was talking about Jac telling TSIL that Teresa set it up when Teresa knew that it was production and she knew Jac knew it was production. Jac probably blew it up in her head that Teresa blamed her for EVERYTHING (guilty conscience Jac?).

      Jac is so immature. Kim G. betrayed Jac by playing both sides with Danielle and egging Danielle on to press charges against Ashley; then going to court with Danielle. Jac can forgive THAT yet can’t even verbalize what Teresa ever did to any of them to deserve all the contempt they have for her. Makes ZERO sense.

    • suedechik79
      October 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

      Hmm. sounds like what Jac said to Caroline and Chris – “I know what Dina is, Chris knows what she is too”

      What….is this womans problem? Her trauma runs DEEP. Deeper than Ashleys, I hope, cause lord knows we don’t need that energy around for another few decades after Jac kicks it.

  10. Sylvia smith
    October 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    That charging Rhino Rosie gave an interview just a week or so ago to some rag and she said about the Guidices, “the government doesn’t just make this stuff up.” Why the need to take sides against her cousin?

    • Rebecca
      October 27, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      Maybe Teresa is still close to Rosie’s brothers. It’s been said many times Kathy is on the outs with them.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:51 AM

        Would like to know this story.

      • Sackem
        October 28, 2013 at 7:30 AM

        Don’t the brothers have legal issues themselves? That’s why they’re on the outs? They are crims?

        • LifeIsGood
          October 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM

          I’ve read the same rumors, sackem. I remember reading that drugs were involved and that more than one brother has legal woes. But to be fair, I’ve never seen any proof. If they do have arrest records, it would be a matter of public record.

    • October 27, 2013 at 10:44 PM

      I think Rosie knew if she said, “No comment!”, that she wouldn’t be giving an interview to begin with! Rosie, TSIL and TB all have made comments about Tre’s legal issue’s! I’m pretty sure when TSIL was interviewed at the VMA’s it had to do with Tre! As dim witted as Tre’s co-worker’s/family are they do know that without Tre as a topic they would be NOTHING! I think it’s ironic now, with Tre’s freedom in question, that it’s those same co-worker’s/family that probably have a hand in “taking her down!” If Tre does have to leave society for a while, then what’s going to happen to them? I do believe that TSIL and TB thought that they would be the new darlings of RHONJ by now! Funny how karma works, though, because I don’t think anyone will want to hire them after what they did to their own family! These guys are lucky that Bravo will still keep them on during season 6 after what their presense did to the show!

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:51 AM

      She said that??? Ok ,”I’m done with this guy” (As Joe Pesci in ‘My Cousin Vinny’ would say!!)

    • adioslunatic
      October 28, 2013 at 7:36 AM

      @ Sylvia
      The government will LISTEN to people that make this stuff up and get an indictment based on hearsay if enough people corroborate.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 28, 2013 at 9:30 AM

        There were sure enough people conspiring on RHONJ. I think even the second generation, Albie, Chris, Lauren, Ashlee, Victoria and Joseph were in the loop, if not directly, at least informed cheerleaders.

  11. Jack Hole
    October 27, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    I hope when the Giudice girls grow up they have nothing to do with those scum bag Gorga and Wakiles AND Rosie!!! And I am glad Juicy was honest about that on WWHL regarding them not caretaking for the girls bc their own family was talking trash about their parents on national TV!!!!!!!!!!

    For the record, I totally GET why Teresa did not want to film with them during S1 and 2–they are freaking PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really Rosie?? Ewwww!!

    • Sylvia smith
      October 28, 2013 at 6:17 AM

      I was so impressed with Gia pinning her uncle to the wall. She was so mature and honest. As opposed to her uncle who squirmed, stuttered acted like he’d rather be anywhere else than making amends with the niece he rejected. God, Melissa was even threatened by him having a relationship with a child in his family.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:46 AM

        Melissa has no compassion at all. When I watch her with her own kids, there is something missing. It is very cold and odd.

        • Miami53
          October 28, 2013 at 11:24 AM

          Miss mommy of the year lately has been putting photos on her twitter. Boy, anything to try to get in the good gracious of Tre’s fans!!

          • aaacccp
            October 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM

            Her “props”

        • October 28, 2013 at 11:58 AM

          I feel the same way about the poor Gorga kids. They seem bored and lonely when the cameras catch little bits of them while in their own home. Really sad.

          • aaacccp
            October 28, 2013 at 12:11 PM

            They are beautiful sweet kids I think, but I think Mel sees them as props and her meal ticket.

        • dch60
          October 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM

          I agree. There is such a difference between Teresa and her girls and TSIL and her children. Just the interactions between mothers/daughters when they met up to bead jewelry were so completely different. Cold and odd is a good way to put it. I see it too. Very sad. Some people thing Teresa’s kids are brats. Teresa’s kids have big personalities and aren’t afraid to be themselves. It’s obvious they get unconditional love from Teresa. Antonia behaves the way a child normally does when they’re with someone other than their mother. Someone they’re unsure about. I could say more but I’m afraid I’ve said too much already.

          • black enga
            October 28, 2013 at 4:09 PM

            I think you should say it. It’s probably what most of us are thinking too. When TB asked his oldest son, “where is your mother?” He answered back “I have know idea”, she was sitting in the next room on the couch.

            • suedechik79
              October 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM

              That whole scene was extremely revealing. I was like, there it is. The reality that goes on behind the cameras. Kids aren’t stupid. Shes not present.

        • suedechik79
          October 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM

          Theres nothing there, is there? I notice it too. Big piece missing, no maternal instinct. She can do some stuff to be able to function as a mother, but not the emotional connection. Its one of the most chilling portraits of a mother Ive ever seen.

          • black enga
            October 30, 2013 at 3:07 AM

            I’m right there with you suechik79, she interacts with them in a mechanical sort of way. The way she was putting the baby boys shirt on and hurt his arm with her roughness, the way she picked him up by his arms and pulled him up on the counter, I don’t remember ever seeing her show them any kind of affection. Antonia’s eyes just seem so sad and wanting to me. She only let them start being kids on camera more when the season was ending.

            Compare Teresa’s site to Melissa’s. Teresa always has dozens of pics of her children (without her in them), its all about them. Melissa’s has dozens of pic of herself, her and Joe, a few of her kids alone, and quite a few with her posing with them. She just will not let them have their little moment even in pictures.

            Even when Joe was crying, she touched his neck and wiped his tears in a very odd way, like even the act of touching him and trying to soothe him repulsed her.

            She is indeed what some might call, a very cold fish.

            • Rosalie Marie,
              October 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM

              I agree. Melissa and Joe seem like “mechanical” (that’s a great perception of them) parents to me as well. Joe and Melissa, (especially Melissa) are so selfish. So, so selfish, they would kick their kids aside if the kids were in “their” way.
              Famewhorga did a story on Melissa. Even compared Melissa’s birthday to her own children’s birthday. It Was So Sad! It’s sad to think that there is nobody in Melissa’s face screaming at her, “WTF Kind Of Selfish Bitch Are You!” Melissa puts herself before her own children.
              Scenario…. If Melissa and her daughter were swimming, and there was only one life vest to save only one from drowning, Melissa Would Wear The Vest!
              Don’t write back to me telling me how you are offended by this comment. Fact Is… That’s how Melissa crosses me as a mother. She’s Not A Mother. As far as I’m concerned, Melissa had those children for one reason only, “Financial Stability!”

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:47 AM

      Yes to all this @ Jack Hole!!!

    • adioslunatic
      October 28, 2013 at 7:40 AM

      @ JAck

      Teresa had them at almost all her filming i.e. family parties/get togethers, Blahvo chose not to film them – not Teresa. In fact: Teresa gave her brother a huge intro and called him up at the housewarming which Blahvo cut and didn’t show until S3 to dispute Fredo No Nuts claim that he and his witchy wife were not invited to her parties. You can see MeHo in the background at Gia’s bday party in S2 as well.

      • Miami53
        October 28, 2013 at 11:28 AM

        Maybe Sushi Lookers thought that Tre should have called her up too….probably Bug eye and Chicklets also thought that.

        • dch60
          October 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM

          Just one more thing to blame on Teresa. TSIL contradicted herself in her first couple of blogs. In one she says that Teresa refused to film with them and cried about how much that hurt them. She didn’t want them around the cameras. “How could she do this to her OWN BROTHER”? blah blah blah. Then a week or two later TSIL claimed that TB wanted nothing to do with the show and didn’t want to be on camera. I just don’t understand how anyone can believe ANYTHING that wench says. That’s just ONE example of the dozens of contradictions from her. Can you imagine if Teresa would have wrote something like that in her blogs? They would all be out there pointing fingers, crying foul, blogging about it, tweeting about it. Holy he!! would break lose!

      • patriciafromco
        October 28, 2013 at 6:45 PM

        They showed TB and Meho faimly at Tres Christening for Audriana (sp) sorry Tre 🙂

        • Silvana
          October 28, 2013 at 11:28 PM

          They were shown at the christening, tree was speaking to her brother on the phone when she had audriana, u see lookers and Kathy in season 1 quickly at Dina’s project lady bug event and they were at the housewarming and Gia’s b’day when she had the limo. Messy is such a liar.

          • patriciafromco
            October 29, 2013 at 1:28 AM

            mmm went back and looked at the christening,, Katfish her kids and her mom and Meho sitting alone with out TB

    • Disappointed
      October 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      I so agree.

  12. Disappointed
    October 27, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Fame, great job! You give new meaning to the word detective work. I cannot help but wonder if Bravo knew. I’m pretty sure they had no idea the depths of deception that the Gorgas, Wakiles and Manzos would go. All one would have to do is watch Melissa and Kathy–they can see how hateful those two are–there will never be any type of love and consideration Even worse is Joey Marco–his hate for his sister is palatable. So none of this surprises me–it had to be about more than some stupid rumor. He wanted to destroy her. Jealousy is evil.

    • October 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM

      I agree with your post, disappointed. I don’t know how many people felt the way I did when S3 started but I didn’t really like Tre. I thought Tre was mean to Danielle and I don’t like watching people get ganged up on. I could care less about Kim G. because she was a two faced, backstabber at the way she turned on Danielle. What did Danielle do to Kim G. exactly to cause Kim G. to flip out on her at a restaurant? Kim G. was just cruel at the way she stabbed Danielle in the back. After seeing what a RHONJ social climber she was I didn’t like her or trust her. When the Gorga’s and Wakile’s started I tend to think that they assumed Tre was hated by many. So, they went to the extreme’s to bring Tre down, thinking that they would be respected for it? IDK? I can come up with so many different perspective’s on why this family can crap on their own family like that. It always come’s back to money and jealousy. Sad. I will say the worst one out of the bunch is lil’ TB Marco, the kid that had the security of his sister’s love and protection all his life! Yes, jealousy is evil.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:43 AM

        Great analogy ceeeseee! Their plan blew up in their face-they made Teresa into a rock star and made themselves look like the worst kind of fame-whorga!

      • adioslunatic
        October 28, 2013 at 7:45 AM

        @ ceeeseee
        I thought Teresa was out of line with Danielle as well until I heard all the backstory of MeHo feeding Danielle lies and truths about Teresa’s financial situation and family issues ( nephew-gate/sprinkle cookie-gate).

        Imagine hearing from Danielle intimate information about your life that you never shared with her and Danielle spreading it like cream cheese all around. I would be POed too.

      • Deb G
        October 28, 2013 at 7:46 AM

        ceeeseee, I agree with you. Fredo Marco is the worst that’s his blood you just don’t do this to your sister!! His poor parents must be so upset, he doesn’t care about them, his only sister and her 4 children!! Where I come from blood is thicker then water.

      • elle
        October 28, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        After the first two seasons I liked Caroline best out of them all, but I could do without her kids. I thought Teresa was a jerk and that Milania was an out of control brat (remember when she sat on the food in the refrigerated case at the grocery store while Teresa was busy talking on her phone?.) Teresa and her only paying cash, skeeving “used” homes, getting her boob job, table flipping, stage mom maneuvers with Gia, Danielle interactions, etc. made me dislike her. I was happy to see Danielle go because it was not entertaining watching her try to squeeze in where she clearly did not fit and was not welcome. I wasn’t bothered seeing the back of Zen Dina and Grandma Wrinkles either, plus I thought she was a bitch as far as Danielle was concerned.

        At the start of the 3rd season I never would have believed that Teresa would become my favorite, but she eventually did in great part due to TB, TSIL, and the cousins. I also never would have thought I would look forward to Milania scenes, but that started changing the time she commented about her father being so strong when he was carrying something to the car. I wasn’t crazy about Juicy Joe either, but whether it is due to some personal change, Bravo editing, or a combination of both, I like him now too. Caroline and her family began to show their self-centered views and I found myself strongly disliking them once Teresa’s family and Greg started to become more featured. Not sure how much of it is editing and how much of it is true personalities showing through.

        So yeah, funny how bringing Teresa’s family served to make someone I did not like into the person I liked best.

        • October 28, 2013 at 6:11 PM

          I knew their was someone who felt the same way I did when S3 started! I felt the EXACT same way about liking Tre, too! I stopped watching during S3 and started watching, again, during S4. I think I started watching again when Gia and TSIL performed at some concert. When I think about it, TB really got on my nerves because he came across as trying too hard to take what Tre had. TSIL reminded me of my little narcissistic sister and it was creepy seeing how similar they were. I do think that Tre was humbled when faced with her own backstabbing family. Which, to me, is admirable when getting continuously knocked down by your own!

  13. October 27, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Nothing surprises me anymore with these people. I think it’s time to let RHNJ go off into the big television graveyard in the sky. The show isn’t enjoyable, it isn’t real, it isn’t fun. To many corrupt people with axes to grind.

    • Deb G
      October 27, 2013 at 5:47 PM

      I agree. I’m not condoning anyone committing fraud, but, something really stinks with this whole thing.

  14. Cindy
    October 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Melissa Gorga follows Kim G

    • October 27, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      She needs to see how wonderful life is for a gold digger in the future lol

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:39 AM

        :-)!!!!

    • October 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

      Really? That doesn’t surprise me. TSIL’s life since she was in grade school seemed to revolve around being Kim G. rich. Kim G’s probably her idol!

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:39 AM

      Of course she does, two hate-filled bitter witches.

  15. October 27, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    All I know is that Fame proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Gorgas and Wakiles knew Monica C. Since 2005. That is all the evidence I need to know that Joe Gorga and whore either fed information to this bitch or stood by with knowledge of it going on. I’m willing to bet on the former. And that makes them monsters in my eyes.

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:35 AM

      They are heartless and evil, I too believe they were in tight with Monica. Joey and Mel are horrible actors.

      • October 28, 2013 at 9:20 AM

        “Melissa: Oh, I’m so sorry, this is so difficult for me, but I must throw you out of my house because it is in the script, but I don’t know you anyway, so it’s cool, and we will talk tomorrow, o.k. ?” She showed more civility to Chacon when she was throwing her out of the house than she has shown Teresa, EVER. She, like all sociopaths is an excellent actor. Don’t forget that.

        • aaacccp
          October 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM

          🙂

  16. October 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    I find it interesting that Kim G hasn’t had any twitter contact with Tom Murro/Celebrity Magnet since the charges were brought down…..Did their “contract” end???? Mid August of this year, radio silence….just sayin. Maybe she (Kim G) is going by a different twitter name? Also, why would Kim G ask Jack-o-loon about security cameras when early this year Jack-o-loon posted that someone tried to break in but not to worry, the security camera’s were watching. I think those two talk in “code” *.*

    • October 27, 2013 at 10:06 PM

      I think Kim Granatell other twitter accounts are @teresa’sforehead and @39counts, they have the same writing style,to me.

      • October 28, 2013 at 2:54 AM

        You are a genius. That makes sense. I haven’t read @39counts but @teresa’sforehead is a very weird Twitter account. One thing I’ve never understood about mean people is where they find all the extra time to throw around hatred. My response to them is always to get a job, find a hobby, or go get some…intimate contact. Trying to dial it down so I won’t offend anyone here.

        • October 28, 2013 at 6:33 AM

          A big AMEN to all this!!!

        • Anonymous
          October 28, 2013 at 5:40 PM

          Both accounts seem to be deleted! Hmmm…someone’s reading Fame.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:32 AM

        Oh really…sounds like something she would do-that ugly scum sucking low-life.

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:37 AM

      As far as them ‘talking in code’, oh you are right about that for sure.

      • Miami53
        October 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM

        I believe the security cameras was the code for the Feds

  17. Tnnana
    October 27, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Why is Caroline Manzo so secretive about being the owner and manager of Opus 1 Properties, LLc at 552 Union Blvd., Totowa, N.j.a real estate agency since 2007. and down the street from Monica Chacon’s Title Agency at 500 Union Blvd., Totowa. Joe Mastropole’s Cresthill Realty is also on Union Blvd. Caroline is also co partners with Hala Kerik in a baby clothing accessory company called 4MyMom Caroline’s comment ” We are as thick as thieves” is very appropriate.

    • tulip
      October 28, 2013 at 5:50 AM

      Speaking of Caroline, in May of 2011 she launched her Family Faith and Charity” handbag line at Kristino in New York City. This line was to have something for everyone with an affordable price point from $50 to $750. Portions of the proceeds were to be donated to various charities, including Wounded Warriors, Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, Autism to name a few. (Source: Housewives Style.com)

      Two months later, in July of 2011 on WWHL Caroline explained why she dumped her handbag line. She said she does not want to be involved in something she’s not proud of.
      (Source: Stoopid Housewives)

      Why did she dump the line after only a few months? And how much money in that time did she raise for those charities with “a portion” going to the charities?

      Jacqueline and her husband, Caroline’s brother Chris owe Susan B Komen charity in part of their Signature Apparel bankruptcy, it just seems like these people are involved with charities for other reasons than helping out the charities. It just raises some questions in my mind.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:23 AM

        Remember-Chris was?IS? in the apparel business! They are making money from those Tee-shirts. @tulip…………..”it just seems like these people are involved with charities for other reasons than helping out the charities.” My thoughts exactly!!!!
        I also believe they only want the Tax write-offs and a way to hide/launder money.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 28, 2013 at 6:25 AM

        You have to wonder if Autism Speaks did any vetting? I mean really, just her lunatic appearances on RHONJ should have caused them to say, “thanks, but no thanks.” But bilking another charity? Is Autism Speaks just another “front” charity for people to siphon off money? I wonder. Fame?

        • October 28, 2013 at 6:29 AM

          I did and continue to let Autism Speaks know that I do not trust her and that they should stay FAR away from her .We have a beautiful Grandson with autism, so this makes my blood boil, I fear that will really hurt this wonderful charity.

          • Sylvia smith
            October 28, 2013 at 9:36 AM

            As well, Jacqueline has started wars with other Autism advocates on twitter

        • October 28, 2013 at 10:58 AM

          Just did a quick search and only read two hits.

          A report from September 10, 2009:

          Employee compensation for Autism Speaks accounted for more than a quarter of Autism Speaks’ income for the year.

          The organization’s chief science officer, Geri Dawson, received $669,751 in total compensation in 2008 including $269,721 in relocation expenses to move her family from Washington to North Carolina, according to Autism Speaks’ tax filing.

          Dawson’s base salary was $373,360, more than any of the organization’s 257 other employees, including Autism Speaks president Mark Roithmayr.

          Overall, Autism Speaks, the nation’s largest autism advocacy organization, took in more than $69 million last year, over $20 million more than it did the previous year. In turn, the organization provided over $27 million in grants.

          http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2009/09/10/autism-speaks-pay/

          From Christine_Rogers, April 2010:

          I’ve started a fb group to try and get the general public to know about Autism Speaks, please check it out, join it and share it here:

          http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=42359&uid=183608095328#!/group.php?gid=109130859120272&ref=ts

          Here is a link to my letter that I am trying to share:

          http://darwin-autismsuperherodog.blogspot.com/2010/04/low-down-and-how-low-it-is-on-autism.html

          And here is a copy of the letter:

          I’ve been writing a lot about Autism Speaks on facebook and twitter and starting petition campaigns to try and let the general public, and more importantly the businesses and celebrities who are supporting Autism Speaks, so the truth of this organization (I will not call it a charity) can get out there. I am just one small voice but there are others of us trying to spread the word and the more of us there are the better. I am going to keep on yelling with my one voice! I’ve had a lot of people write me and ask for more info so I decided to post a response I wrote today here.

          You probably know that some parents and many adult autistics really take issue with the ad campaign messages that Autism Speaks puts out, and also on their funding research to enable prenatal genetic testing so families can choose to terminate those pregnancies. Those two issues though are individual’s morals and choices so for me, I want to let people know that EVEN IF THEY DON’T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THOSE THINGS that they still should not support Autism Speaks, and here is why; The big thing is their financial practices. This video is the easiest way to get the low-down on that. All the information in the video came from Autism Speaks own website off of their financial report.

          They are not recommended by the US Better Business Bureau’s Charity Review:

          http://www.bbb.org/charity-reviews/national/human-services/autism-speaks-in-new-york-ny-1456

          This letter was written by Cindy Waeltermann. She was Autism Speak’s employee who was the director who organized all of their walks, until she found out what was really going on and she left. Now she is the director for Autism Link. After their 2009 financial report was published she wrote this letter:

          Autism Speaks. It’s a Living

          Autism Speaks recently announced on their website that due to the poor economy they have to “postpone” grant making and giving for 2009. Yes, this charity that hauled in a reported $68 million in funds last year has fallen on hard times. Sad, really, on the surface. But dig deeper. I ask you to consider the following information, taken straight from this organization’s IRS 990 form on their own website:

          Geraldine Dawson, Chief Science Officer – Salary: $669,751
          Mark Roithmayer, President – Salary: $400,413
          Peter Bell, Executive Vice President – Salary: $265,981
          Glenn Tringali, Executive Vice President – Salary: $255,256
          Alison Tepper Singer, Executive Vice President – Salary: $201,942
          Amount Spent on Travel: $2,873,667
          Credit Card and Banking Fees: $989,344
          Premiums: $1,452,807
          Management Fees: $2,038,024
          Advertising and Promotion: $2,108,778
          Temporary Help: $718,686
          Income: $65,826,829
          GRANTS PAID OUT: $27,593,390

          Now I ask you, does this look like an organization that is suffering? It looks, to me, to be an organization that cares more about highly paid salaries, posh offices on #2 Park Avenue in New York, pricey fundraisers and getting it’s name in the newspaper. They seem to exist solely to pay salaries and throw parties.

          But hey, they’ve fallen on hard times. So can someone please tell me why the first thing to go is the grant making and giving — the one thing that they claim as their #1 mission? To give grants to find a cure for autism? And don’t they seem a little top heavy to you? A $700,000 salary?? Four Executive Vice Presidents?

          http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt123582.html

          • October 28, 2013 at 11:33 AM

            This is so sad and HORRIBLE!!!! Thanks for the info and links!!

            • October 28, 2013 at 3:38 PM

              This is very informative. I am very cautious with the charities that i support having been burned by the Red Cross in Haiti after the earthquake who have not released the money to the people still, it is tied up with the corrupt government.

          • October 28, 2013 at 12:08 PM

            wow. I wonder what these people do all day to earn such high wages? work hard? my guess is, very little. but I bet they play a lot.

            no conscience at all. wow.

          • LifeIsGood
            October 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM

            Thank You!!! I was considering making a donation to an autism charity this year. I can safely strike this one off of the list.

            • October 28, 2013 at 9:46 PM

              I can’t get into details because then it’ll be easy to figure out who I am. I don’t know who has Google alerts or whatever. Based on personal experience from a former position, I would say yes, take it off the list. They’re not bad people but they’re not exactly united, organized, or really all that they should be considering how much attention they get and how hard they work to pull celebrity involvement. Man, I wish we had private messaging…

      • Trickievee
        October 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM

        “it just seems like these people are involved with charities for other reasons than helping out the charities. It just raises some questions in my mind.”

        The most Gawd awful question just came to my mind: Is it possible that little Nicholas Laurita is the victim of Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome?

        Jac does seem to suffer from one personality disorder or another (or a combination of a few) with a host of family members that enable her. I remember reading (and I do wish that I could give the proper credit, but I can’t remember where I read this) that the Lauritas and Manzos claim that it took about eight months (?) for little Nick’s Autism diagnosis. They faulted their insurance company for the delay. The main point of the commentary was the coincidental timing of the diagnosis, Jac’s shaky standing as a HW and (something to do with) BLK.

        Since the announcement of Nick’s Autism all we’ve heard coming from the families are things like:
        * Autism Awareness – In this day and age I find it unlikely that there is a majority of our population that is NOT aware of Autism.
        * No parent should be ashamed of an Autism diagnosis – Why is Jac taking for granted that a parent WOULD BE ashamed.
        * We’re confident that we WILL recover Nicholas – For a parent to be confident in ensuring that their Autistic child will reach their ultimate and maximum potential is one thing (even parents of non Autistic children strive for that); but for parents to proclaim confidence in FULL RECOVERY is a different matter altogether.

        In light of the facts brought forth regarding Autism Speaks I’m beginning to feel the same as tulip stated above. An awful question that came to my mind (and I’m almost ashamed of myself to ask this question aloud) when I read tulip’s statement was: Is it possible that little Nicholas Laurita is the victim of Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome? Could it be that the Manzo/Laurita clans involve themselves “with charities for other reasons than helping out the charities” to satiate their unending greed? Did they simply doc shop and pay off a doctor willing to diagnose Nicholas with Autism in order to align themselves with Autism Speaks?

        Will someone please tell me that my speculations are the result of a temporary lapse in judgement. Will someone please dispel my mind’s notion that these vile, hateful, self-centered, evil, greedy emotional vampires are NOT using this little boy as a pawn in their never ending diabolical schemes? Please.

        • October 28, 2013 at 9:34 PM

          Your concerns are quite legitimate. I give our hard earned money directly to a family or Habitat. Some of these so called “programs” spend most of their money on their payrolls.

          No “temporary lapse in judgment” on your part. Just follow what is in your heart. Let these others deal with their demons.

        • October 29, 2013 at 1:02 PM

          RE: Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome. I have no doubt something is going on with Nicholas. I am not very well versed on autism but do know there are many different degrees of it. There are many others on here who have a better picture of it all.

          Munchausen’s I AM familiar with. 22-ish years ago, a friend’s daughter was murdered (allegedly) and my nephew was a then munchasen’s victim by the same sitter. This same sitter had other babies get sick (feces found in their blood stream and stomach, stopped breathing…odd things) and she also lost her own baby (stopped breathing) a few years later. She to this day has not been prosecuted. It is a very difficult syndrome to prove. They often (most often, even) come across as very knowledgeable, caring, and perfectly sane individuals. I wouldn’t want to even venture to guess about Jacqueline but I do think she pulls the “poor me card” a lot and not just with Nicholas.

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:26 AM

      A big amen to ” We are as thick as thieves” is very appropriate!!!!!” It is looking like they are all in this crooked money business for sure.

  18. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 27, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Hmmm – a real estate agency a few blocks from a title agency. What are the chances that they *didn’t* know of each other?

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:23 AM

      🙂

    • October 28, 2013 at 9:23 AM

      0.0%

      • October 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM

        Just another strange coincidence, like Tiny in the Trunk with his ‘cannoli’ stuffed in his mouth.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM

          And rather than Carowhine deal with the “suspicious” nature of her father in law being found stuffed in the trunk of a car, riddled with bullets, she spins the situation around to how *her* birthday was ruined! Mob hit?!? Nooooooooo – it was all about her special day being spoiled…

          • aaacccp
            October 28, 2013 at 11:16 AM

            Oh my gosh, that is the missing link!!! No mob hits are allowed on the Garbage Clown’s Birthday.

  19. October 27, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Wanted to share an excellent blog entry written August 1st, 2013, by the Realhousewifeofaiken after the Giudices’ indictments were handed down. Kim G. went on her Twitter rant, filled pure glee and utter hatred against Teresa:

    “Kim Granatell and the Sin of Schadenfreude”
    http://realhousewifeofaiken.com/2013/08/01/kim-granatell-and-the-sin-of-schadenfreude/

    Definition of Schadenfreude:

    SHädənˌfroidə/, noun: pleasure derived by someone from another person’s misfortune.

    Kim G. is someone who is sick – very sick.

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:13 AM

      Wow, thanks for posting this @Jeannie! This tweet: “@Kimgranatell 31 Jul I’M AS RICH AS SHIT –YOU CAN ALL KISS MY ASS!! HAHA!” tell me WHAY she is….she is a horrible ‘famewhore’. She, Melissa and Jac are the same. Pathetic!!

      • October 28, 2013 at 7:33 AM

        *tells * WHAT

    • October 28, 2013 at 10:34 AM

      “Rich as shirt”, very classy. All that money cannot buy her good health, cannot buy her an extra minute in a day, cannot buy her peace of mind and among other things cannot buy her class.

      These are all cheap fame whores, who will be miserable all of their lives. Our priest gave a sermon several months ago sharing the key to being miserable. When your are always worried about someone else, what they are doing, how they are looking, what they are buying, you will be miserable the rest of your life.

      As usual Fame, great story. Thank you.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM

        Amen, Moma!

      • October 29, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        Second paragraph is spot on.

  20. October 28, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Frome the link given in the above blog entry from Realhouswifeofaiken, this is Kim Granatell’s blog entry for RHONJ, posted July 31, 2011 “explaining” her side of what happened at the Gorga’s Christmas party. She considers that to be in the “top ten” of the worst things that have happened in her life – which is pretty pitiful considering this woman supposedly suffered from brain cancer and apparently has been given a second chance at life.

    “Ever since last week’s episode, people have had a lot to say about what happened at Melissa’s party. To those of you who have stood by me and have been supportive, thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words. They mean so much to me. I found it a lot harder than I expected to relive that awful night, which I remember as one of the worst experiences of my life. No lie. We’re talking top ten trauma list.

    I don’t have a network media platform to tell my side of the story about what happened at Melissa’s Christmas party, like Melissa, Jacqueline ,Teresa and Caroline do. Bravo didn’t give me that opportunity. So I can’tdance on Caroline’s grave the way she danced on mine on Watch What Happens Live . It’s easier I guess, to have a two- dimensional villain to throw stones at, who is more of a cartoon character than a real person, and can’t step up and defend herself. But I’ve never been a person who goes quietly, so before Kim G. steps out and leaves you all to the banal and tedious non-events that will no doubt ensue in my absence, here is my side of the story.

    As most of you who have been watching me on the show and reading this blog probably realize by now, I try not to take life too seriously. I like to have fun. I have a sense of humor about myself. I like to laugh. And I try to live in the moment, because I more than most people understand that each moment might be my last. There’s nothing like a doctor telling you that you have a terminal brain tumor to make you appreciate each and every day! It was in this spirit of fun and with the hope for positive new beginnings that I opened my heart, and my home to the Real Housewives of New Jersey. I accepted the offer to become a part of the cast just a few months after my mom died. I had a complicated relationship with my mom, but I loved her very much, and losing her left a big void in my life. And, like Caroline, I was dealing with a little bit of empty nest syndrome because unlike Caroline, my son was leaving home to go to college. So when The

    Housewives came along, it sounded like an exciting adventure. I thought, hey here’s a chance to make some new girlfriends, learn some new things, go to a few beautiful parties, Ha! What I discovered that night at Melissa’s party though, is that much like one of Caroline Manzo’s attack dogs that her friend Bernie Kerik trained for her in season one- -Reality TV not only barks, it bites. And it’s jaws lock.

    Here’s the thing that people may not realize. When you’re on a reality TV show, you’re not really making a TV show about your life, you’re making your life about a TV show. Suddenly, your relationships, your work, your family bonds, your standing in the community, your daily activities, even the quality of your character is defined by what is going on in the show, and you have little or no control over what happens on the air. There’s a whole team of professionals who sit around a table and make decisions about your reality, and you aren’t even invited to the meeting. I realize that’s show biz, and I volunteered for this, but ultimately I came to the conclusion that if I’m going to get involved with something that has the potential to ruin my life and my relationships and call my character into question, I at least want to have a vote. And I have to say, since Melissa’s party, I took back control of my own reality, and I am MUCH MUCH happier now, viewing the carnage from the outside of the ring, and cheering along with all of you, while somebody else gets KO’d.

    I could say mean things about Caroline at this point like she said mean things about me. Believe me, Caroline has her own particular brand of crazy, and I could give as good as I got on that score. But honestly, what’s the point? In actual reality, Caroline and I have a lot in common. We’re both human beings, not two-dimensional heroes and villains in a docu-soap. We are real women in our fifties, coping with the fact that our children are leaving home, and questioning what we’re going to do with the rest of our lives and how we are going to fill our time productively and happily. We both want the best for our kids, and for ourselves and for our families and friends. We both want to be loved, and approved of. We both feel bad when people don’t like us or say cruel things about us that we know aren’t true. And when the RHONJ dog and pony show finally folds its tent and moves on to the next town, Caroline too will become tabloid fodder, a formerly famous freak, a victim of a voracious media machine that chews you up and spits you out according to its own appetites, without giving you a second thought.

    I think this makes Caroline and I pretty much even.

    I wish each and every one of the Real Housewives of New Jersey the very best of luck from the bottom of my heart. They’re going to need it.

    Kim Granatell”

    http://www.examiner.com/article/kim-granatell-moves-on-from-the-housewives

    • JerseyG
      October 28, 2013 at 1:03 AM

      Grannypants was delusional. As usual. Maybe Missy can make a song about that.

      Grannypants fed, from behind the scenes, the monsters.

      I have no respect for her and never had. With all of her money she surrounds herself with the likes of Monica Chacon (foreclosure/liens and judgements) and Jax (foreclosure/liens/judgements and over $100M law suit) and for what?

      I’m thinking those who have the type of wealth Grannypants does would want nothing to do with her because she’s so trashy. So she finds others who she thinks she can control. But when she thought she did… a few of them told her where to get off, so she took her bank account and set on a course to destroy whomever she felt got in her way.

      As far as the Hiza’s go – the wife is 21 years the junior of her husband. 34 and 55. Not that there’s anything wrong with that (not my thing, never was, never will I want to be with someone my father’s age – give or take even 5 years), but when referring to anyone on a show like this, alarm bells go off and “gold digger” is what resonates.

      And the Hiza’s live at 111 Pulis in F-Lakes. Not until 2006, but how strange is that? Small world that Missy and Joey lived at 149 Pulis.

      I guess every town has a street that just keeps turning out the trash. 😉

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 28, 2013 at 11:25 AM

        Pulis Ave is *not* a premiere location. It is a busy road and the housing stock varies wildly from lot to lot. The area borders on Wyckoff and Mahwah and while the zip code may say Franklin Lakes, the Fardale section is by no stretch of the imagination a posh area.

      • October 28, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        THIS!!!! 🙂 100 up arrows!

    • October 28, 2013 at 2:57 AM

      She sounds so reasonable, I half believe her.

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM

      She is NO victim of anything. She wasn’t forced at gunpoint to be on this show, no one set HER up. She did this all. She is trash. She was hanging out with *******Michael Lohan*********
      CASE CLOSED.

      • Detroitrockcity
        October 28, 2013 at 7:50 AM

        Stoopid B needs to dry -up and blow away with the wind!; ) Please someone shove that broom she’s riding up her ars!!

        • Detroitrockcity
          October 28, 2013 at 8:07 AM

          Sorry”Ass”;)

          • October 28, 2013 at 10:04 AM

            🙂

        • Disappointed
          October 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM

          I love it Detroitrocktcity! Missy needs something right up her arse. She is trash and dresses like trash!

    • October 28, 2013 at 9:29 AM

      To sum that up,reality t.v. exposed her for the evil bitch who farts dust that she is and she wasn’t happy abut it. She thought they were going to cast her because she is as “:rich as shit”: and she forgot that we already have one Mama Elsa.

    • October 28, 2013 at 10:35 AM

      Thanks for sharing. Hope you continue to have a great holiday.

  21. October 28, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Kim Grannytell is still trying so hard to be relevant. Poor thing.

  22. Sharon
    October 28, 2013 at 4:13 AM

    Fame, thanks for all the work on that. I learned a lot.

    • October 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM

      🙂

  23. October 28, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    The Whorgas came on the show to take Teresa down…… CLEARLY!
    Joey and Melissa knew Monica Chacon , knew she was coming and knew why she was coming. Just look at the Christening, calling his sister garbage, charging Juicy and crying like a little girl. Then the talking heads-Remember “and we pay our bills ..etc.”? The dinner they and the Wallpapers had at the Hizas’, trashing Tre and Juicy at every turn. You bet they knew!!!!!

    • October 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM

      Maybe what was in that Godfather tape that they sent off to Andy was promises to expose that they were committing financial fraud. Maybe, they made some serious, serious promises on that tape.

      • aaacccp
        October 28, 2013 at 9:34 AM

        Who? Salt of the earth Joey and Melissa Marco/Whorga? Not them!

  24. Sackem
    October 28, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    OK super sluths. Kim Granatell’s maiden name according to Tom Murro is Jersey….

    • Sackem
      October 28, 2013 at 7:59 AM

      PS PURE CONJECTURE but she strikes me as being Pretty Woman-esk if you’re picking up what I’m putting down…. “Read between the lines”

      • October 28, 2013 at 9:25 AM

        Yes-but wouldn’t men pay her to NOT have sex with them 😉

  25. Sackem
    • October 28, 2013 at 9:24 AM

      Oh no-will send prayers.

    • October 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM

      I had not heard, thanks Sackem. Prayers being sent.

    • October 28, 2013 at 9:51 PM

      I just heard 16 people died. Terrible.

  26. October 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    If you look here: http://www.northhaledon.com/Portals/0/minutes/January%20ReOrg.pdf
    Albert Manzo ( maybe there is another one?) ,in 2011 was appointed as alternate deputy coordinator???

    • October 28, 2013 at 10:02 AM

      One Mr Harold P Cook was at this meeting also. HMMMMM…..

  27. October 28, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Really good read Jeannie! It sounds like Kim G. Is almost human! I agree with her points of the production of Housewives, but I still don’t understand why her and her friend Monica went so hard and deep after Teresa? Seems to me that she had more anger towards Caroline then Teresa! Specially if she knew how all this is a set up! Is it just fame and jealousy?

  28. JP
    October 28, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Richard Wakile tweeted at the time of the last reunion about the fake crying going on about the Giudice’s legal issues. I don’t think he was taking about TSIL. Too obvious. He was most certainly talking about Jacqueline crying as undoubtly she provided Kim G (who in turn passed it to Monica Chavon) information that was used in the case she was building against the Giudices. Unfortunately, I do not know how to include a link to Rich’s tweet. Why would he tweet that in the first place? I hope someone on here can provide a link for Fame.

    • October 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM

      I think he was talking about Joey Whorga!

    • October 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM
      • October 28, 2013 at 11:40 AM

        That little crooked bit*h. Oh I think he’s really mad that we don’t want to watch Kathy…. EVER.

        • October 29, 2013 at 4:49 PM

          I agree with you, Aaaccp! People got sick of Richie’s below the belt insults thrown toward the Giudice’s. I still think Juicy owe’s Richie a punch to the gut for, trying, to put him in a head lock when TB charged him! You know, the Gorga’s and Wakile’s must surround themselves with people who tell them everyday how famous and loved they are! Well, they tell TSIL she can sing and her book is a best seller! Oh, I wish I could find the pic but did any one see the pic someone on twitter took of TSIL’s book with a 30% off on the cover? That was last week, I think, when I seen that! Too funny!

          • aaacccp
            October 30, 2013 at 6:31 AM

            Soon it will be 80% off!

  29. October 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    What is THIS all about??? “Clark is also the attorney who helped to prosecute former North Bergen Planning Board chairman Albert Manzo, who pleaded guilty to accepting bribes two months ago. Manzo was sentenced to 15 months in prison for his participation in the bribe taking involving his approval for a phony developer’s project. It was also not known last week whether Tuesday’s search had anything to do with the Manzo case.

    Is this the same Albert Manzo??? Help -This is from 2006

    Read more: Hudson Reporter – FBI raids North Bergen Agents search Town Hall MUA business administrator s home Sacco maintains innocence and seeks to root out corruption

    http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/full_story/2377370/article-FBI-raids-North-Bergen-Agents-search-Town-Hall–MUA–business-administrator-s-home–Sacco-maintains-innocence-and-seeks-to–root-out–corruption

    • October 28, 2013 at 10:45 AM

      Or maybe 2001?

    • October 28, 2013 at 11:40 AM

      Interesting!

      • aaacccp
        October 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM

        But this may not be the right Albert Manzo??? I think we would have read about it already.

        • October 28, 2013 at 12:00 PM

          I think you may have found something here, aaacccp. There could be a relation, but the Al Manzo in the reports was 56 in 2001 (which would make him 68 now), and Caroline’s husband, Albert Manzo III, was born in 1960, which makes him 53 now.

          • October 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM

            I wonder…..

            • October 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM

              I think you mean 53!? 🙂

              • October 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM

                Oops, yes, I did! I just fixed it. Thanks 🙂

                • aaacccp
                  October 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

                  🙂

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 28, 2013 at 12:36 PM

            They are completely different people.

            • October 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM

              Thanks Saddle!

              • October 28, 2013 at 1:11 PM

                Please feel free to delete my comments! I was never sure it was the same guy! 🙂

            • October 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM

              Thank you!!

  30. GPM
    October 28, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    I hate to take us away from the important business of discussing RHONJ hangers on and also rans, but isn’t today the day Joe Giudice trial begins on his DMV charges?

    • October 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM

      We all know Juicy will do some time….I had much rather know what is going on with the Laurita’s $8 Million Dollar Fraud Lawsuit (or did that just go away?) and all the shady deals of the Gorgas and all the rest!

      • GPM
        October 28, 2013 at 11:28 AM

        I’m not so sure he’ll be convicted on the DMV charges although his trial will almost certainly be tainted by the federal indictment. The outcome is certainly hugely important to the family, however, and my prayers are with them all!

        • aaacccp
          October 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM

          My prayers are with them also.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 28, 2013 at 7:04 PM

        That’s what I’d like to know. It’s like all info about it has been rubbed from the Internet. I wouldn’t think this is possible but I know someone that paid an IT company $3000 to remove all of his DUI mugshots. It worked. So people with a little money can certainly remove incriminating information from public view.

      • Grand-Beth
        October 28, 2013 at 9:35 PM

        Really, aaa…….all I have heard is crickets about Laurita`s Lawsuit. It has been ongoing for years!!!!1

    • October 28, 2013 at 11:40 AM

      I haven’t found any reports yet. If anyone finds something, please share it with us.

  31. October 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    In addition to Kim Granatell’s July 31, 2013 tweet, which she wrote because she was being called out for her nasty tweets about Teresa going to prison:

    I’M AS RICH AS SHIT –YOU CAN ALL KISS MY ASS!! HAHA! @celebritymagnet

    On October 24, 2013 Kim Granatell (‏@Kimgranatell) tweeted (her last tweet to date):

    Love my fabulous brand new multi bedroom NYC Condo….and did not have to commit mortgage, bank, or wire fraud to get it!!!

    • October 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

      Her tweet shows what classless trash she is. I still can’t wrap am mind around the fact that she had Dinner with Kim and Bob Hiza in Oct 2011????? My gosh Joey and Hiza 10 distressed properties together from the city of Paterson, NJ. Do we know how much they paid for them and WHO(that works for the city) sold them???

      • October 28, 2013 at 12:30 PM

        *show

      • mc
        October 28, 2013 at 1:49 PM

        Seriously is this WOMAN in her 50’s? I don’t understand her level of hatred and her immaturity!

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM

          Her last face lift is 50 years old…

          • October 28, 2013 at 6:31 PM

            LOLO That was great @ Saddle

    • October 28, 2013 at 3:43 PM

      Have fun living in that all by yourself with your dried up vagina, bitch.

      • October 28, 2013 at 3:44 PM

        No, I’m in my fifties. She is in her 90’s.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 28, 2013 at 3:50 PM

          Don’t forget she has Tom Murrow to prime her pump… There is no shame in being a gigilo. But for God’s sake why does the boy now draw the line someplace. To be hittin’ an ass that looks like a dirty old pillowcase filled with rotton cottage cheese is just shameless. He’s not the “Celebrity Magnet” – he’s the “Celebrity Maggot”…

          • black enga
            October 28, 2013 at 4:52 PM

            gessie and Saddle, ROTFLMAO, holding my sides because they hurt!!!!

            • patriciafromco
              October 28, 2013 at 10:07 PM

              love it !!! beautiful baby….

          • October 29, 2013 at 12:39 PM

            You two are quite the duo!!!! Thanks for making me giggle today!

    • October 28, 2013 at 3:44 PM

      So. I’m wondering, was she saying this “to” celebritymagnet as well as to “everyone else”? Interesting……….

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      October 28, 2013 at 3:55 PM

      Yes she earned it the old fashioned way – on her back with legs spread wide… Hope the boys watch for splinters!

    • LifeIsGood
      October 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

      I’ve had the misfortune to know someone who equates a persons worth as a human being with their net worth. Kim is definitely one of these people. When people call her out on her awful behavior, she always makes a comment about how much money she has. It’s sad, really.

      I am very uncomfortable being around people who demean others based on how they earn a living, what kind of house they live in or the car they drive. At this point in my life, I’m blessed with solid finances but it wasn’t always this way. I grew up with 2 other siblings and my parents in a two bedroom home in a very rough neighborhood. My parents both worked very hard, never complained about money and busted their behinds to pay Catholic school tuition. They managed to also give us a wonderful childhood without a lot of money. I never even realized how little we had until I was a bit older.

      People like Kim G aren’t fit to lick the boots of people like my parents. I don’t care how much money she has – she’s a loser in my eyes.

    • October 29, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      Fame, I get embarrassed just reading her crap and we all know I’m not the most mature person out there, so that’s saying something!

  32. October 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Look what is being said about Tre’s kids!!!!!: I will not say where I read this but I just can’t believe an adult would say this.
    “I completely understand. I feel the same way about Tre’s furry little creatures being left motherless. The same ‘mother’ who knowingly committed fraud and didn’t care about her own kids. Frankly, those girls would be better off raised by drug addicted homeless people than those two grotesque cave animals. Those kids are cursed and will grow up to be liars, scammers & cheaters just like their worthless parents — total leeches on society. The only thing they will be good for is laying on their backs and spreading their legs to live a life they can’t afford just like their mother. I honestly don’t wish this on them but the reality of the situation (having con artist parents) leads me to this conclusion.”

    • elle
      October 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

      Wow! The internet is a scary place…

      • October 28, 2013 at 1:49 PM

        I pray that Teresa can do something about this.

    • October 28, 2013 at 2:31 PM

      With the exception of following links someone on this blog posted and felt the importance of sharing it, the blogs I read are this one (faithfully), Faux’s and Reality Row. Most of the other bloggers, as well as the people commenting, seem to be narrow minded, judgmental and just plain cruel. I would never waste my time associating with people like that in my real life, so why waste my time with that type on the internet.

      “I honestly don’t wish this on them but the reality of the situation (having con artist parents) leads me to this conclusion.” In my opinion, the individual who made this comment would not have posted it, if they “honestly” did not wish this for this family. I can only pray that they and many other bloggers and posters, find some type of peace and joy in their own lives.

      These bloggers and posters, as well as the people who are the subject of this blog, are the ones I find it very hard to pray for.

      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

      Until these people stop spewing hatred, they will never be happy, nor will they find what they are looking for in their own lives.

      • October 28, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        Very well said! I will never go there again, I can’t believe that a blogger would allow that.

        • October 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM

          Where?

          • October 28, 2013 at 3:51 PM

            RT and it makes me sick.

            • October 28, 2013 at 3:58 PM

              It is under the Oct 27th ,RT News Weekly Wrap-up

              • Sackem
                October 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM

                No surprise there….

                • October 29, 2013 at 9:56 AM

                  I don’t frequent places like that. I like to keep my slumming to a minimum.

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:36 PM

        RealityRow seems to think there is a story to tell about FW, and it disturbs me that a new blogger would want to write a blog about me (an established blogger) to try to discredit me. It’s kind of insulting.

        Here is what she wrote on 10/17/2013 11:58am:

        “We can agree somewhat on Penny and Johnny. I have always felt those two were behind the Fame Whorga blog. I have no proof, nor do I have anything personal against them. just a feeling I have! Something about the whole situation is off, I just haven’t been able to figure it out yet. Which is why I haven’t written a story about it. 😀 “

        • Sackem
          October 28, 2013 at 6:43 PM

          WOW! Guess where I won’t be reading!!!!!! Hmmmmmm, I always felt there was a bit of a spam situation to whip up some readership over there….

          • tulip
            October 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM

            I won’t be reading Reality Row anymore, either. That was low! I am removing the site from my bookmarks. I never read much on RT, the posters there are always attacking each other. Same with AATRH. Two posters there from Melissa’s camp get into nasty battles with everyone and the blogger just lets it go on and on, so I haven’t been going there to read.

            This is by far my favorite site thanks to the talent of Fame and the wit and insight of all you wonderful posters.

        • October 28, 2013 at 8:00 PM

          Scratch that blog also. The last time I went there was when they posted an article about Bethenny and her talk show. Her talk show is beyond bad. I have been busy since last weekend and can barely keep up with what is being posted on this, my favorite blog.

          I found this blog at the end of April in 2012. I made my first comment on August 30 (When I had lunch with another poster on this site, she asked when I discovered this blog. I went back and looked it up. I believe that post is no longer part of this blog.) and Fame, you responded back.

        • October 28, 2013 at 8:00 PM

          No worries Fame, we got your back.(front and middle too) Let “them” type all they want. *.*

        • October 28, 2013 at 10:21 PM

          WOW, WOW … that is low from a fellow blogger to you Fame. I have not been to that site and now for sure I will not! We love you fame

        • October 29, 2013 at 9:57 AM

          Reality row? Who ever heard of these twurds. Let me go over there and straighten their asses out.

          • Miami53
            October 29, 2013 at 11:03 AM

            LMAO….you’re too much, Gessiewtf. I want front row seats!!!

            • black enga
              October 30, 2013 at 2:18 AM

              LOL. I’ll bring the popcorn!

        • October 29, 2013 at 10:11 AM

          How ridiculous. JTG and Penny only wish they were as smart as Fame. If the were, they would not have tried to famewhore their way on to the show and then be made fools of when they did get on. Anybody with half a brain can tell that we are dealing with an intellectual here.

        • October 29, 2013 at 5:19 PM

          Fame it sounds like Reality Row is on a fishing trip. There was quite a bit of activity on other blogs and twitter while your site was down. We scrambled around and found each other here and there. You are adored and we were going through withdraw and asking questions and searching anywhere we thought of for answers. Other bloggers, especially new ones would not understand and that makes you mystery they want to solve.

          Reality Row
          09/18/2013 1:50pm

          “I don’t personally know any other bloggers. So I have no idea what really happened with fame whorgas. Is Fame on twitter? I know from reading twitter that faux reality was threatened by lawyers and had to re-word their story. But again, that’s just from reading twitter.

          I would be happy to do a story on Fame and what is currently going on if she/he wants to contact me. Or, my site is open to everyone including fame if she wishes to comment and let her readers know.

          I don’t have the best commenting section but its open to all. I don’t care about linking or mentioning other blogs. Feel free to post and say whatever you want. “

      • October 28, 2013 at 6:41 PM

        Amen to that, moma

    • October 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM

      OMG. Who wrote this. This is criminal.

      • aaacccp
        October 28, 2013 at 3:48 PM

        That’s what I think! her/his name is DR .SEUSS.

      • aaacccp
        October 28, 2013 at 3:50 PM

        The name was Dr Seuss

        • black enga
          October 29, 2013 at 12:49 AM

          Went down a rabbit whole and found this site. Look at the names on the bottom, interesting. 😉

          http://horace-scotswomen.blogspot.com/2012/02/dr-seuss-cat-in-hat-phonics-craft.html

          • black enga
            October 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

            *hole hate auto correct. >.<

        • October 29, 2013 at 10:13 AM

          I’m not going over there. I don’t want a computer virus.

          • aaacccp
            October 30, 2013 at 6:33 AM

            I will NEVER give them another click!!! I would read there from time to time-never again.

    • black enga
      October 28, 2013 at 4:59 PM

      I cant believe the owner of that site let that posts, says a lot about them as a person. SMDH

      • aaacccp
        October 28, 2013 at 5:01 PM

        I can’t believe it-I thought my eyes were deceiving me.

      • black enga
        October 28, 2013 at 5:02 PM

        *sorry (post)

    • October 28, 2013 at 6:41 PM

      Teresa reminds her daughters how beautiful they are on a regular basis. People who grow up like Lauren and their mother will not acknowlege that they are beautiful “unless they deserve it” have two choices, they can live in misery and constantly be hateful towards children who get what they need from their mother, or they can be grateful to see a mother treat her children with such adoration and be encouraged to treat their daughters differently than their mother treated them.

    • October 29, 2013 at 8:55 AM

      I wish this about tees kids were not on this site,when others com here they may think we hav said this ,plz delete ,just tooooo sad

      • October 29, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        I second this petition.

    • Sylvia smith
      October 29, 2013 at 11:07 PM

      I like the freedom that anonymity allows to express opinions. However, I would really like to be ble to track the author of these disturbing comments and attempt to “out” him or her. Going to such a disturbing place and describing children in a graphically sexual way like this says to me that this person is probably a child molester not simply an obsessive reality star hater.

      • aaacccp
        October 30, 2013 at 6:30 AM

        This ‘person’ has been commenting for a long time and others have said SHE has many names at that site, that she comments under. I believe God will deal with her and it will not be pretty.

  33. October 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    I am going to be sick-now I know why many of you NEVER visit the other blogs.

  34. October 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    I wonder where that kind of hate comes from? Probably teenagers who don’t know any better. And they call this site a hate blog?

    • October 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM

      Bingo! They are so full of hate for Teresa it is scary.

      • October 28, 2013 at 3:54 PM

        The talk about the adults I expect, but never anything like this .I sure hope something can be done about this.

    • Sackem
      October 28, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      Strangely enough, the demographic sits around the more “mature” people – hate to use the phrase middle age but a lot of the people who post are mothers and grandmothers themselves. That place is a battle ground.

      • October 28, 2013 at 10:00 PM

        Nothing scarier than a pissed off grandma with time on her hands. Going by my own experiences and my friends’, you have nice grandmas who bake you cookies and then there are others. The only teens who follow this behind the scenes drama on the internet seem to be fans of Melissa. If they’re really teenagers anyway. Housewives shows are for people mid 20s and up, I think.

        • Sackem
          October 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

          Bwhhhahaha! Pissed off Grandmas!

    • October 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      Who are we hating on exactly? The Shore whore with the open sores or the rape advocate with genital warts? No hate. Hate is a wasted emotion. This site is about truth justice and the American f***ing way. Cue the Star Spangled banner please.

      • October 29, 2013 at 5:43 PM

        • black enga
          October 30, 2013 at 2:08 AM

          Ohhhh my God I got goosebumps!!!!! It brought tears to my eyes, simply beautiful singing.

          Thanks Kayswhims!

  35. Spaghetti Kitten
    October 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    No time to read the comments, but tx for another great reveal Fame! 🙂 Love how you summarize and compile this factual evidence of those conspiring…altho’ I’m wondering when and why Caroline changed her Calfface heifer spots? I think her distaste and dislike for KimG and Monica was genuine…was it the almighty $$$/spin-off hopes that made her flip on T?

    Kathy-in-the-closet was a big reveal for me back when it happened…all that “fucking bitch” mutterings to Dickie (welcome to reality tv Katfish – you’re mic is ALWAYS on, lol)…It was so obvious that she was butt-hurt that T wouldn’t interact and play nice. Sorry Katfish, no piece of the pie for you that night, lmao! 🙂

  36. October 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    If what was put in front of us was a cover for what was actually going on behind the scenes, let’s take a look at some of the violent outburst, crying, and over the top conversations. Practically everyone wanted Teresa to apologize for the unforgivable yet they can not say point blank what she has done.

    Rich Wakile says burn her at the stake. At the time that seemed really over the top reaction to words in a cookbook, but now we know something shady has been going on in all of their lives.

    Kathy and Rosie blow a gasket where Kathy calls Teresa’s father a coward. Rosie says she is going to cut Teresa’s tongue out and rip her head off. A strong reaction to a comment about Teresa’s father being there for them more than their own father.

    Bravo filmed and aired both Caroline and Jaq going into a room and sobbing behind a closed door. Jaq broke up with Teresa “because she didn’t discuss her financial problems” and Caroline just went on a rant and threatened the destruction of Juicy.

    TB calls Teresa garbage at his son’s christening and takes a fit trying to persuade his father that he is indeed a man and his father tells him he is selfish he only thinks of himself. TB calls Teresa scum and charges at Juicy who is surrounded by his enemies.

    Teresa is still friends with Dina. Whatever went down, Dina was not against Teresa but she is against Jaq, Chris, and Caroline. Danielle was a problem Caroline wanted to take care of. Caroline’s reaction to Danielle was over the top and similar to the way she treated Teresa later on. What was the real reason Ashley attacked Danielle?

    Danielle and Dina are to players that quietly retreated into the background with the blessing of Bravo. Why did it seem that Jaq and Caroline tried to keep Teresa away from Danielle and Dina?

  37. October 28, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Kayswhims,
    This is why I read everything, hoping this will come to light. Maybe Fame can help us out. The anger is so over the top but money will do that to people.

  38. Anonymous999
    October 28, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    In my experience, Kim Hiza is not a nice person. I know her in real life, I wish I didn’t. I perceive her as a self-centered, immature brat who is totally delusional. I could tell some stories, I wish I could. Anyway, if you are reading this Kim, I suggest not saying nasty things about people behind their backs as a start. If you could stop bragging about yourself and shut your trap for five minutes, that would help too.

    • Sackem
      October 29, 2013 at 5:29 AM

      Ooooohhhhhhh!

    • October 29, 2013 at 12:24 PM

      Yeah, what Sackem said….oooooooh!

  39. black enga
    October 29, 2013 at 3:26 AM

    Crawls out of rabbit hole and dusts off dirt and debris. OK, does anybody know what Telly.com is, well I didn’t until today.

    I found this person,

    http://telly.com/yazminflores_1?s=following

    who is following this person, Scott Simson and some other people that we all know.

    http://telly.com/illuminationprfirm?s=followers

    He is following Illumination PR firm and guess who’s following them? Al Manzo.

    Al Manzo is following Kim D, Donna Marco, and many others.

    http://telly.com/almanzo?s=following

    I give up, talk about 6 degrees of separation, all of these people are in cahoots with each other.

    I don’t know if it’s the son or the dad, maybe you guys can make some sense of this, my head hurts.

    Walks away leaving muddy footprints……….

    • Sackem
      October 29, 2013 at 5:30 AM

      What are we investigating???

      • black enga
        October 29, 2013 at 3:07 PM

        Dr Seuss, I don’t know I was really bothered me that someone would post something so horrible about innocent children and that name (DS) just kept droning in my head (call me crazy I don’t care), Jacqueline and Caroline came to mind. Something to do with quotes from his books to use in every day life. I am not accusing them of personally posting that comment but who in the past has likened Teresa’s kids to animals. I believe the phrase was raised by wolves.

        I also find it odd that Caroline and Jacqueline’s name are on the bottom of a blog that is telling you how to make cat in the hat crafts then links to a game called epic mafia. Which is very interesting when you look at how its set up to be played. But that just me sometimes I start digging and I cant help myself, I guess I’m too nosy.

  40. Sackem
    October 29, 2013 at 5:47 AM

    So a theory out there, Dina’s returning to gain finical independence from a cheating husband. I wonder if this helps with the rift between sisters?

    • NCGal
      October 29, 2013 at 7:11 AM

      If true, it might make it worse…isn’t she married to Al Manzo’s brother? And we’ve seen how Caroline tends to always side with men against women.

  41. LifeIsGood
    October 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    This is off topic, but wasn’t Juicy’s DMV trial scheduled to start yesterday?

    • October 29, 2013 at 9:03 AM

      a hearing

      • Tnnana
        October 29, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        Joe Guidice’s license fraud trial date set for Nov., 19, 2013.

  42. Tnnana
    October 29, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Dr. Seuss is mentioned in Yazmin Flores’s Telly blog, she is also friends with Caroline and Jacqueline.

    • October 30, 2013 at 6:38 AM

      Really?

  43. Tnnana
    October 29, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    I found this interesting on Bergen.com dated May 17, 2011 http://www..bergen.com/?tags=Scott Simpson. A Real Housewife of New Jersey Season 3 premeier launch party at the Brownstone ‘ was held with Bravo and all the Manzos, Lauritas, Gorgas, Wahkile’s family and friends except the Guidices. . Has anyone figured out why they all hate Teresa and Joe?

  44. Jeannie5233
    October 29, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Late to jump aboard the train –

    The reason I only comment here (I have commented at FRE – but very rarely) is that FW is the only blog with a community such as this and, most importantly, I have the utmost respect for Fame, as well as most of the commenters here.

    It is very troubling that a blogger (Reality Row) would blatantly make a comment and insinuate to even write an entire blog on “outing” a fellow blogger and, to me, is the utmost display of disrespect. My question would be “WHY?” Fear of competition? Trying to get that exclusive (we all know it bugs alot of folks that no one can figure out who Fame is)??? Well, screw that!!

    Fame –

    I know you are respectful to other bloggers and request we do not make negative comments about them and, for the most part, we all try not to. That is one of the reasons this becomes all the more infuriating because it is time other bloggers afford you the same courtesy. In the past, other bloggers have lifted your work and passed it off as their own – some of us have been able to catch it. But this is a deal breaker for me – for a blogger to actually come out and try to expose you is downright “dirty”. Frankly, it’s more than dirty, it’s really sh*tty and Reality Row will no longer get ANY hits from me.

    I hope you know that your loyal followers greatly appreciate all you do, support you, and are thankful for YOU. You are the best there is and no blogger will ever come close! EVER!!!!!

    LOVE YOU FAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • black enga
      October 29, 2013 at 3:24 PM

      Jeannie I think that they are just trying to get a rise out of Fame. It is pure jealousy and hatred. Fame has set the records straight on a lot of lies with these people and this, (tool ) pun intended, that they are using is just lashing out.

      Fame I hope that you keep doing what you do best, bringing out the truth. So let the haters hate and keep blogging, blogging, blogging!

      WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!

    • Sylvia smith
      October 29, 2013 at 11:12 PM

      What other blog can amass as many as 400 comments in a couple of days? Not even the mainstream entertainment sites get this many hits. I don’t often subscribe to jealousy as a motive, but in this case, I think yes, other independent bloggers are jealous of this site. They should be.

  45. Jeannie5233
    October 29, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Joe Giudice’s driver’s license trial has been set to begin November 19th:

    http://www.nj.com/entertainment/celebrities/index.ssf/2013/10/trial_real_housewives_star_joe_giudice.html

  46. kitty
    October 29, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Dina’s made it “Twitter Officia”l:

    Dina Manzo ‏@dinamanzo 1h

    Well I guess the (hairless) cats out of the bag. Yes I’m back, Unlike the past this time it felt “right”~ See you on Bravo my friends xo

    • NCGal
      October 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM

      I’m guessing that means Jac is gone, but maybe not “officially”.

      • October 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM

        I didn’t want to watch again but if Dina is back, it may go back to being fun. Maybe?

        • October 29, 2013 at 6:03 PM

          I will watch Dina with Teresa and her children. If she is having tea with Kathy, I’ll tune out yet again.

          • October 29, 2013 at 9:11 PM

            Kathy’s better than a sleeping pill.

  47. kitty
    October 29, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    I’m looking forward to Jac’s tweets now that Dina’s “official”. I’m sure Jac’s version of what’s happened is a doozy. 🙂

    • October 29, 2013 at 8:30 PM

      Jac will go ballistic, if she hasn’t already. If this doesn’t put her in the nut house, nothing will.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 29, 2013 at 11:15 PM

        Jac and those around her always say she doesn’t even take an aspirin. No pills. No drugs. Ever. Just a little alcohol. So then she’s nuts on the natch. Much harder to fix.

  48. October 29, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Fame,
    I disagree! Remember, Producers control EVERYTHING! Everything is pre planned ahead of time. So when Kim plays stupid and says what she says…
    Remember, Danielle was fwd’ing all of Melissa’s emails to Production. Was Monica telling Melissa this and Melissa telling Danielle? Yes.

    • October 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      Yep, Kim D has no problem lying. I don’t think Danielle brought Monica to the season 2 PFS; I think Kim G did. Danielle certainly heard rumors about Teresa’s house being in foreclosure from Melissa, and Melissa probably told Monica to talk to Danielle about Teresa’s finances since she had insider knowledge from Joe’s business partner, Mastropole, and was researching her bank loans for the feds (remember, Monica owns a title research company).

      • LizzyD
        October 31, 2013 at 5:13 AM

        Danielle brought Monica. Kim g met her through Danielle. Monica was good friends with the wife of Danielle’s lawyer.

        • October 31, 2013 at 9:46 AM

          Thanks for this, LizzyD. Do you know if Kim G met Monica through Danielle? I don’t remember if Kim G and Teresa had issues during season 2. Teresa ridiculed her in her testimonials by calling her “grannytell” and referring to her on the stripper pole as “old lady butt crack,” but Kim G wouldn’t have known about that until the season aired. Or maybe she was cracking jokes like that while the season was taping, and Jacqueline or someone relayed that to Kim G, so tensions may have been rising as season 2 was taping.

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