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Monica Chacon Has Known the Gorgas Since at Least 2005

October 24, 2013

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The connection between Monica Chacon and Joe Gorga goes back to 2005 (if not earlier), when she prepared the deed for a property Joe Gorga purchased jointly with Bob Hiza (image above – thank you katedj09), who is a real estate and mortgage broker and a friend of both the Gorgas and Wakiles. (Remember that the Gorgas got married in August 2004, and Melissa worked as a secretary for his “real estate development” business.)

On March 22, 2005, Joe Gorga and Bob Hiza purchased 8 12th Avenue in Paterson, NJ (Block E0533, Lot 9) from the city of Paterson for $45,000 (it was a distressed sale and quit-claim deed). THE DEED WAS PREPARED BY MONICA CHACON.

Four months later, on July 12, 2005, Joe Gorga and Bob Hiza sold the property to Richie Wakile for $55,000. The deed was prepared by Bob Hiza.

On December 19, 2005, property ownership was transferred from Richie Wakile as sole owner to Richie Wakile and Charbel Atie as 50/% each joint owners (tenants in common) in the amount of $32,500.

Eight months later, on August 8, 2006, Richie and Charbel sold the property to Mario Cabral for $375,000, a profit of $320,000 (image below – thank you katedj09) – this was shortly before the average guy knew the real estate bubble had burst, but speculators were aware that the end had come, so were unloading their properties.

That’s quite a tidy profit that Joey sent Richie’s way. Improvement could have been made to the property for such a huge profit in so little time, but something seems shady for the price to go from $55,000 in March 2005 to $375,000 in August 2006.

GPM said: “This is solely my opinion but the 8 12th Avenue transaction looks like it could be masking a payoff to Police Chief Charbel Atie. In a scenario like that, people who stand in the position of Wakile (and possibly even Gorga and Hiza) would be considered straw men who receive a small amount of compensation for standing in the chain of title and holding it for a period of time until it’s considered safe for a payoff to be made. It’s interesting that the price increased exactly $10,000 — from $45,000 to $55,000 to $65,000 (based on the price of Atie’s 1/2 interest) each time it exchanged hands.”

The financial connection between the Wakiles and the Gorgas could help explain their closeness on the show and how it also relates to Bob Hiza and Monica Chacon, an attorney who handles real estate title research and whose husband was the attorney representing Joe Giudice’s former business partner, Joe Mastropole, in a civil suit he filed against Juicy, which was settled in Mastropole’s favor in December 2010 (Teresa had an confrontation with Monica at the courthouse on December 10, 2010, just before the Christmas party at the Gorga’s house, which is why producers, along with Melissa, had Kim G invite Monica).

The Gorgas and Wakiles went to the Hizas for dinner early in season 3 (episode 6) and talked about the Giudice’s bankruptcy (season 3 started taping in September 2010; the Giudices filed for bankruptcy more than a year earlier, on October 29, 2009).

In December 2010, at the Gorga’s Christmas party in season 3 episode 10, Melissa and Monica pretended like they didn’t know each other when she arrived with Kim G; however, in October 2010, while taping the Posche fashion show in season 3 episode 2, Melissa, her sisters, Kim G, Monica Chacon and Kathy Wakile all sat at the same table (images below) – Teresa questioned their association when she said to Caroline and Jacqueline:

“Why is Kim G talking to my sister-in-law? It’s just weird that my sister-in-law’s friends with her.”

Let’s not forget that Joe Gorga looked right in Monica Chacon’s eyes at their 2010 Christmas party, and said “I don’t know you” (the same thing he said to John Karagiorgis at the grand opening of Posche 2 during the season 5 finale):

“I’m sorry, I don’t know you, but she’s my sister – I can’t have you here.”

In Melissa’s season 3 episode 10 Bravo blog, “Little Miss Trouble,” she refers to Monica as “a complete stranger.”

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Joe Gorga and Bob Hiza, together, bought about 10 foreclosure properties (images below – thank you Saddle_River_NJ) from the City of Paterson starting in May of 2004 (quitclaim deeds) and then sold them off to various people or entities. Some of these people are unconnected, but several of the entities connect back to Joe Gorga (i.e. a LLC that is actually owned by Joe Gorga), and one of the properties was sold to Richard Wakile (8 12th Ave, Paterson, NJ).

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Basically, the Gorgas, Wakiles and Hizas were flippers during the real estate bubble years from 2002-2007, buying property cheap and then reselling it for a quick profit. The property that Joey handed Richie (8 12th Avenue, Paterson, NJ) appears to have netted quite the profit, which Ritchie shared with his cousin Atie Charbal, who, at the time, was captain of the Prospect Park Police Department in Passaic County (he was promoted from police captain to police chief in November 2010).

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The Gorgas (and most likely the Wakiles too) knew Monica Chacon and the Hizas for years before RHONJ was conceived. It seems they befriended Kim G in 2010, knowing that she had a personal vendetta against Teresa for mocking her on the stripper pole with Danielle (during RHONJ season 2, Teresa joked about her “old lady butt crack,” referred to her as “elderly,” and called her “Kim Grannytell.”)

Monica Chacon boasted to RadarOnline on July 30, 2013, that she had been working with federal investigators over the past four years to help them nab the Giudices:

“The work we put in to make sure the judge recognized they were committing fraud ultimately resulted in them withdrawing their petition [and tipping off the feds]. It’s been a long road. Our office has had calls from some federal agencies over the past four years. You don’t think it’s gonna come to anything and then finally [it happens]. Teresa and Joe’s true day of reckoning is yet to come. The federal case is still ongoing. To actual vindication, I think it will be a long road. But finally it feels like people are opening their eyes to the situation after so many years. Little by little, the truth is starting to come out. They’re starting to show who they really are and what they are about. Everybody around her knows they’re sleazy. I think that their fans must be from anywhere but New Jersey!”

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The following is the transcript of an interview (click here for video) from CNN’s Showbiz Tonight with Monica and her husband from August 1, 2013, “Lawyers Who Exposed Alleged Giudice Fraud Speak Out.”

Hello, I’m A.J. Hammer. Thank you for watching.

Tonight a SHOWBIZ exclusive. The couple who say they helped expose the alleged fraud of “Real Housewives of New Jersey” stars Teresa and Joe Giudice.

The Giudices got their world rocked this week after they were indicted on 39 counts of fraud, including lying to the IRS and bankruptcy court. They both say they’re not guilty, but the charges they face, they’re very serious. If they’re convicted, they each face dozens of years behind bars.

And if the Giudices do go to prison, it could be in part because to the efforts of these two, William Saracino and Monica Chacon. They battled the Giudices in a lawsuit that snowballed into this week’s major federal indictment against Teresa and Joe. They’re with me here in New York for their first TV interview since the indictment.

First of all, thank you both for being here tonight. So Monica, let me start with you. After battling the Giudices in and out of court for so long, how does it feel this week, seeing them charged at this level and facing possible massive prison time.

MONICA CHACON, BATTLED GIUDICES IN LAWSUIT: Do I take that one?

WILLIAM SARACINO, BATTLED GIUDICES IN LAWSUIT: You know, our client had — it’s been several years, and you know, we have kind of known that their behavior and their actions have been like this for the past few years leading up to this time.

It`s not been a shock to us. I just think that it’s time that the rest of the world sees what’s been going on. And I’m sure that the time has come simply because the U.S. attorney’s office feels that they now have enough evidence to prove their case against both the Giudices.

HAMMER: And obviously, it’s very, very serious. And it is a little complicated. I want to take a look at the SHOWBIZ news line to kind of boil down your role in the Giudices’ fraud charges.

(VIDEO CLIP)

It was 2007 when Joe’s ex-business partner, someone you two represented, claimed that Joe forged your client’s signature to get a loan, and then in 2009, you and your client won a judgment against Joe, but days later — this was October ’09 — the Giudices filed for bankruptcy. This was a long ordeal with them that was shown on the “Real Housewives” show.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We made an offer to the U.S. Trustees Office as well as to the Chapter 7 trustee. And they have not accepted that offer at this point.

TERESA GIUDICE, REALITY TV STAR: I will do whatever it takes to defend myself. Like I don’t have any skeletons in my closet. Again, like I always say, the truth shall set me free.

When do you see, like, the end of this? I want to see the tunnel, I want to see the light.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: It’s so interesting to hear her say, no skeletons in my closet. Of course, innocent until proven guilty here. There’s only been an indictment. But the Giudices’ bankruptcy filing after you guys beat them in court got the feds involved in looking at their finances which all led up to this week’s indictment. Is this in a way personal for the two of you?

CHACON: Not on my part. Absolutely not. I just think that, for my client, for Joe Mastropole, that has always been a long road to something that he’s entitled to. You know, there was fraud committed against him. It was proven in court. It’s been many, many years that he’s been trying to tackle this, and to date, he has not been completely whole in this situation. You know, he has not been completely — what’s the word I’m looking for?

SARACINO: His case isn’t fully resolved.

CHACON: Resolved.

SARACINO: It hasn’t been completely paid. It’s not personal, but you know, we took a case on for many years in many different courts on our client’s behalf. It wasn’t just us. There was other attorneys. My father was my partner. We had a separate bankruptcy counsel.

And, you know, our client, Joe Mastropole, really went through the ringer in the case and that’s where the line starts. There are many more people behind him that, you know, basically are in the same position.

HAMMER: Well, Monica and Bill, I really appreciate you both being here tonight. I know it has been an incredibly long time that you’ve been dealing with this, and I do appreciate you being on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

We did reach out to representatives for Teresa and Joe Giudice for response to the statements that Monica and Bill have been making about. They did not get back in touch with us by show time.

But after the couple’s indictment, Teresa’s attorney did tell SHOWBIZ TONIGHT this: “Teresa will plead ‘not guilty.’ The judicial process that begins today with an indictment is a search for the truth. As it moves forward we look forward to vindicating her.”

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  1. Miami53
    October 24, 2013 at 5:00 AM

    I’m just speechless when it comes to those two families,..all I know they are a bunch of liars and thieves. Very interesting to see such a profit Chicklets made in eight months. Thanks Fame for all your info!!!

    • cass
      October 25, 2013 at 5:06 AM

      When Mandy interviewed T and Juicy on WWHL regarding the indictments he asked them if something would happen and they would go to jail would they consider leaving the girls with TB and TSIL. Juicy answered that one and the tone of his answer led me to believe that there was something behind it. I also found it funny that T didn’t try to smooth over his answer. Now I understand! T & Juicy know that TB and TSIL are in on this. Juicy could hardly hide the contempt in his voice so it was apparent that he was upset. Also, at the reunion I thought T acted strangely indignant to everybody barely smiling throughout while Juicy was being pretty sarcastic again without T trying to smooth anything over. It is apparent that this family will never heal and TSIL has a connection to everything that is going on in their life’s.. What a vindictive witch she is,,,,,she even looks like one with that nose and long horsey face!!!

      • cass
        October 25, 2013 at 7:09 AM

        Oh and Meho should have watched this video on pooping before writing her book 🙂 http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWks4qtrESbtEvrTy0Qt9mQ?v=ZKLnhuzh9uY

      • Michele
        October 26, 2013 at 2:42 AM

        ITA with everything you said,Melissa is is pure evil! I believe Teresa about what she said about Melissa and ROL I scrolled through the comments under the headline “Teresa Guidice thrilled about kathy Wakilie demotion and carolines departure” and it’s blatantly obvious Melissa’s sisters are out in force! 99% of the comments are from “Melissa fans”the comments about Teresa and her parents are so over the top and personal it’s atrocious.I can’t understand how Teresa can even consider speaking to her lowlife brother ever again!

    • vallygirl
      October 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM

      Tersesa is a bigger woman than me because my sister is just like like Meho and SloJoe. It took me years to understand that she’s never going to change. I accepted it and moved to another state. I realized it’s ok to not have her in my life.

      I feel bad for Teresa because I’m sure she wants to have a normal relationship with her brother but, sometimes you just have to open your eyes to see it’s not worth all the stress.
      And, as long as his skank wife keeps chirping in his ear things are never going to change. Besides SloJoe doesn’t have enough sence of his own to see how Meho has destroyed his family that’s his problem!
      Teresa needs to open her eyes and see her brother for what he is and cut him out of her life. That’s a choice she has to make for herself. I know if I hadn’t made that choice to cut ties with my sister I would of ended up in some loony bend lol I’m not even kidding!

      • October 27, 2013 at 8:00 PM

        I do believe Teresa has reached that point with her brother where she sees it is him as much as it is TSIL. He does not even realize he did her a favor when he stayed away from her and quit talking to her on the phone yet whined to whomever would listen that his heart was broken. She learned about her brother’s heart the hard way. I think she tried very hard when Gia wanted the family back together and when Gia saw through her aunt and uncle, she was able to understand her mother. Things like that help when you need to break away from toxic people.

  2. October 24, 2013 at 5:18 AM

    I don’t really know what to say about this.

    Firstly I am not surprised that they all are in cahoots and have known each other a while.

    Secondly why are they all such snakes??

    Thirdly why do families do this to each other. I know that many people are like this, but I am just beyond glad that my family aren’t.

    • adioslunatic
      October 24, 2013 at 6:19 AM

      @York

      The answer to 2&3 is – GREED and JEALOUSY.

      • suedechik79
        October 24, 2013 at 9:54 AM

        I agree. I barely have anything going on, but because others are kinda jealous or carry childhood resentment into adulthood, its almost hostile being around certain members of the family.

    • October 24, 2013 at 6:59 AM

      I’m with you on questioning why families do this to each other. In a way I can see why the Gorga’s and Wakile’s feel entitled to be a part of the RHONJ success. They have been riding on the Giudice’s coattails for a while now, even before the show. This time around, though, the women were going to be the bread winner’s. Teresa made it look so easy to TSIL and Kathy that they were both positive they hit it big, again! Just like their husbands, though, they jumped on the bandwagon at the wrong time. Now, the Gorga’s and Wakile’s are two families who will be synonymous with greedy, backstabbers, turncoats, untrustworthy, repulsive creeps.

      This Monica Chacon sounds like she’s not to be trusted, also. The way she went public and gave interviews about the Giudice’s made her come across as unprofessional and a little crazy, if you ask me. I wonder if she had her heart set on becoming a RHONJ star? Something about how she plays into this doesn’t sound right. In a way I see that Tre is successful by her own doing. Yet, with TSIL and Kathy, their husbands are constantly by their side trying to sell their “brand” with not much success. Now, this Monica Chacon, who was kicked out of a Bravo party is bragging about working with the FEDS in taking the Giudice’s down. It just makes being a Bravo HW seem like a curse! I wonder if TSIL and Kathy ditched their husbands if they might have been more sucessful? It’s too late to answer that question now. From what I hear Kathy was demoted and TSIL is hated as much as Caroline was last year.

      Anyway, great blog Fame! You really should start a magazine up, or something (write a book?).

      • Sylvia smith
        October 24, 2013 at 7:51 AM

        I’d like to dig a little deeper and find out if Jacqueline has ties to Chacon. Her desperation, for two seasons, to get Teresa to reveal her finances business deals, and other private, personal information on camera was beyond bizarre. Crying,pleading, breaking up, begging to be taken back. Not normal in any relationship. I thought for a while she had to be in love with Teresa because her actions were those of an obsessed lover. Now, I kind of think she was trying to get information on Teresa and Joe for either Chacon or the Feds directly, to negotiate a favorable outcome for her own fraud case.

        • suedechik79
          October 24, 2013 at 10:12 AM

          And thereby Bravo for them airing of all that kind of stuff – the repeated questions to the Giudices about their finances were edited to be storylines for years. Wonder why…

          • Anonymous
            October 24, 2013 at 10:44 AM

            if you check bac far enough you may see msandusky knew them befor 05 too,that would tie all of it together

            • October 24, 2013 at 5:25 PM

              sorry I showed up anonymus this a.m.

        • Deb G
          October 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM

          I’ve thought that all along!! Sylvia, why was Shady Chris lurking on the deck??? Then Carowhine just happens to show up??? I do think Fredo and his wife, Icky Richie and Katfish are involved, also!

          • patriciafromco
            October 24, 2013 at 10:31 AM

            Then at the this last reunion every one saying “you just don’t ask / talk about such things” Oh I just gagged

          • Rosalie Marie,
            October 24, 2013 at 9:23 PM

            I used to write on the blogs that Jacqueline was a rat. I didn’t know she went to this ultimate low though. No Doubt, Melissa and Joe Gorga are waist deep in this shit.
            Maybe this is why the Gorga parents don’t want anything to do with Melissa and Joe? They Know They Are Not Loyal

            • Anonymous
              October 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM

              Even without this tie to Monica, they’re not loyal. It’s one thing for Melissa, but Joey? Her own brother? So sleazy.

              • Rosalie Marie,
                October 25, 2013 at 5:55 PM

                Anonymous… You say it’s one thing for Melissa but I say that is just as bad. I Could Never Do This To Any Member Of My Husband’s Own Family. Never! Look, we’ve had our spats but certainly never to the degree of ultimate betrayal. Also, If a woman takes part to set out and harm her own husband’s family member, than I can only imagine what she would do someday to her own husband. Jesus, I could never talk about my husband’s own sister the way Melissa talks about her husband’s sister. No Shame. No Decency. Melissa is true Scum! Scum

        • LifeIsGood
          October 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

          Sylvia, if you recall, when Jac was a no-show for the reunion, Kim G tweeted (and Jac did not dispute it) that Jac was at her house drinking with her and Monica.

          I don’t think that Jac was working with the Feds – I don’t think the Feds would involve themselves with this drama. I think Jac’s behavior can be attributed to anger, craziness and meds – bad combo! I do think that she was used for info by Kim and Monica.

          • Sylvia smith
            October 24, 2013 at 6:41 PM

            I don’t remember that. So there’s the connection. But I do believe that Jacqueline would work with the Feds and I know they would become involved because they were willing to do Chacon’a bidding. Why not? Monica said clearly that her life’s work for the last 4 years was to get an indictment against the Guidices. Who has private personal information about them? Who aphas access to their home, their purchases, private cnversations? Teresa’s brother and her friend Jacqueline. Who is stupid, vengeful and possibly facing jail herself? Jacqueline. What I find curious was that in her own bankrupted compa y Jacqueline was named VP. when it came down to charges, she said she knew nothing about the business so her charges were dropped. Isn’t it the same with Teresa? She claims to k ow nothing about Joe’s business. She was called Executive Assistsnt and drew a salary. Jacqueline was called VP and drew a salary. How is the circumstance, or crime different, of less, for Jacqueline.

            • Rosalie Marie,
              October 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

              You know, now that I think about it, why in the world would the feds get involved with this case? There really isn’t that much money involved for the feds to want to get involved. It really makes no sense. It makes no sense for the feds to be involved.

              • Rosalie Marie,
                October 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM

                There must be a reason the feds are really involved and the feds are using Teresa and Joe as a stepping stone to get to where they really want to be. Take my word for this, there is something MUCH BIGGER going on if the feds are involved.

                • Rosalie Marie,
                  October 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

                  I am going to be baffled by this for days now. Look, take my word for this, the feds don’t get involved an individual case like this for a menial amount of cash and menial fraud. They do feel that the State of New Jersey could handle this matter. The only reason the feds would get involved is if they discovered something beyond just a simple matter of fraud between one man and his partner. The Feds Want Something More. Much More. They discovered something big. See, you go to the feds, it’s not just as simple as calling them on the phone or visiting the local federal headquarters in your state. If Chacon and her so-called client (Joe’s business partner) finaly did get the attention of the feds, don’t think for a moment that while you are getting the feds to investigate your legal woes, they aren’t going to do a deep digging on you. They investigate all parties. Guys, something big is happening here.
                  For an Attorney, title Lawyer or not, she’s not very bright. She and her so called client and her husband just started a federal investigation into their own characters. I’m telling you, the feds don’t get involved with issues like this. One man, one case of fraud and a little bit of due cash. No. This is big.

                  • Rosalie Marie,
                    October 25, 2013 at 12:22 AM

                    Yea, the feds investigate everybody. That’s no bullcrap. They are nothing to mess with and they don’t just take a case like this. Chacon openned a can of worms and the feds are more than likely, looking at them. If The Feds Are Really Involved. I’m baffled, so I’m not going to take up the comments section. I have a bad habit of ranting on these blogs and most of the time, I’m thinking and typing as I’m going alone. Sorry.

                  • October 25, 2013 at 9:44 AM

                    I agree. Something big is going down. Why would all these players involved in fraud be on a reality show? Why would Bravo seek out these people and why would they agree to do it? Does it have something to do with marketing and having a different way to launder money? The CEO of NBCUniversal serves on the Boards of Directors of JPMorgan Chase & Co. I think Bravo is full of fame whores because that is what kind of personality is drawn to the new shows that they have available. Is there a timeline as to when Bravo changed it’s programing to attract people addicting to fame and living large?

                    http://abcnews.go.com/US/millionaire-matchmaker-con-man-pleads-guilty-bank-fraud/story?id=16113297

                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/jpmorgan-fbi-criminal-charges_n_3792294.html

                    • Rosalie Marie,
                      October 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

                      Thanks Kay. It was your comment that really got me thinking about this fbi case.

                    • Anonymous
                      October 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

                      If you look at the common theme of the players in this, they are all in some way connected to mob: Al Manzo & Caroline and their best friend who got put away, who would also know Chris and Dina’s husband (who refused to be on the show) by default, who Teresa knew and said was a “nice man”. Also, Caroline’s dad was a huge mob guy. Juicy Joe has been in construction and landlord for quite some time, and has also learned how to hide $ and assets and has partnered up with others that also know how to run it.
                      I feel like Joe & Melissa are trying to run with the “big dogs” but are so money/power hungry, they go about it in a messy way and will never get to where they want to be. Hence the jealousy of them and the Wacko cousin.
                      I think that Feds are tying to break a “smallish” mob ring, and this is their way. I believe the mob can run parts of government, so the feds won’t ever get to the top, but this is probably a pretty big part of busting up some of the hold on NJ. It is VERY bad there, and all big $ state bids are given to certain players or union (another mob stronghold).

        • October 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

          She does have ties to them and so do the Manzos! I posted about this matter a couple of months ago and told the Fame Family how Joe & Melissa were telling Monica all about the Giudice finances for years & how Mastropole was also working with Joe Gorga. Funny how a few commenters said I was not a reliable source and should stop trying to shame Monica since it wasn’t true that the Chacons knew the Gorgas. (wish you would put that article back up Fame) So thank You Fame for writing this article with the proof that the Gorgas did indeed know & work with the Chacons & Mastropole! ( I Have now been vindicated) The entire cast knew what Monica was doing & they all helped to get the Giudices indicted! What needs to happen now is a federal investigation into the finances of the Gorgas, Manzos, Wakiles, & the Lauritas. They all have done the same things that the Giudices are accused of & then some! The entire cast knew about these charges before the Giudices did which is why Melissa said several different times that “Joe will be going to jail where he belongs” “We know where he’s going, Jail” She wasn’t talking about the drivers license since people don’t usually go to jail for that especially if it’s his first charge. She was talking about the indictment!

          • dch60
            October 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

            It’s extremely unlikely Joe will get off without jail time for the license fraud. NJ doesn’t play around since 9/11. That’s why they require so many what they call “points” or forms of id for anything to do with a driver’s license… even to renew it.

            I’m not convinced the Gorgas would have known much about the Guidices’ finances. If nothing else, it’s one more thing the Gorgas lied about… knowing Monica. TB and TSIL were “heroes” for throwing Monica out of their party because of their “loyalty” to Teresa. They certainly didn’t want anyone to think THEY invited her.

          • October 25, 2013 at 9:31 PM

            xjrsygrl said: “wish you would put that article back up Fame”

            I just made it public again, xjrsygrl:

            https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/kim-g-kim-hiza-monica-chacon-and-the-tom-murro-connection-to-the-gorgas-and-wakiles/

      • October 24, 2013 at 8:15 AM

        This is just me but: If it was my cousin or sister I wouldn’t feel the need to try and get on the show. I have no desire to be on TV ever.

        I did a reading for my aunts funeral and had to take two beta blockers beforehand because I was sick with nerves and anxiety.

        Sometimes when I comment on this blog I question whether or not people really care to hear my opinion – so I don’t always comment on every blog.

        I’m quite confident and I am happy in my own skin, but I just don’t need the spotlight on me. So I don’t always put myself out there if you know what I mean?

        Applying my way of thinking to this situation I don’t understand why Kathy and Mel couldn’t just be happy that Teresa was on TV after all she is still representing their family. I just think it comes across as desperation and jealousy – but what would I know!!

        As for Monica Chacon I think she comes across as being bitter about something or other and is hellbent on revenge.

        • October 24, 2013 at 9:20 AM

          That is the great thing about this blog, most of us “care” to hear each other’s opinions.

          Monica is beyond bitter. Sometimes I believe Joe’s business partner purposely hired Monica because of the vendetta she has against the Guidices.

        • Honnie Badger
          October 24, 2013 at 9:42 AM

          yorkshire — you have “no desire to be on TV ever” because you are NOT an attention-starved narcissist.

          • Anonymous
            October 24, 2013 at 5:39 PM

            Lol! I do like to think myself as ‘normal’ or as mental as everyone else 😉

          • October 24, 2013 at 5:42 PM

            Lol! I do like to think of myself as ‘normal’ or as mental as everyone else at any given time 😉

            I just can’t get my head round why people would do this to their family on national TV. Even with motive. Two wrongs don’t make a right and in my opinion it shows a lack of morals/self respect!

            • October 24, 2013 at 6:40 PM

              It all just means you’re a good, sane person. And yes, your opinion matters. Especially when I agree with it. 🙂
              Kidding!

        • suedechik79
          October 24, 2013 at 9:56 AM

          Yeah. Years of what seems to be pro bono work just to get someone in trouble? Something happened.

          • LifeIsGood
            October 24, 2013 at 4:34 PM

            Very good point, Suedechik!

            It would take more than a snub or a bitchy comment to motivate someone to pursue this so relentlessly for such a long period of time. Lawyers represent “wronged” people for a living – what is it about this case that outraged Monica to this degree? I would understand if someone were murdered, but to get this angry over a client being cheated out of some money? I’m not buying it either.

            • October 24, 2013 at 6:40 PM

              Maybe Teresa snubbed her at some point. Whatever is going on is personal if she was working for free for years to take down the Giudices.

          • October 24, 2013 at 8:31 PM

            That could be why her home went into foreclosure. Our mortgage was considered large at the time we built this home. I never turned down overtime (sequestered juries do not break for weekends or at 4:30 p.m.), I took on extra notarial work and my husband at the time did the same thing. Providing a good life for our family was our #1 priority.

            • suedechik79
              October 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM

              It did? I was not aware.

              Theres a lot of animosity involved here from at least one person in the bunch. If Monica headed this movement unpaid…that’s a lot of time and money to contribute to hating one person. She could have made money under the table?

        • Sylvia smith
          October 24, 2013 at 6:42 PM

          Monica’s husband and Joe Guidice had a falling out over business leading to a lawsuit.

          • Sylvia smith
            October 24, 2013 at 8:32 PM

            I was incorrect. Monica was REPRESENTING Joe’s former business partner.

      • jennacheryl
        October 24, 2013 at 5:31 PM

        I am curious as too who is really behind the I hate Teresa band wagon. It seems to me that maybe Mel and Teresa were not the best of friends from the beginning they both did wrong. From the beginning it has appeared that there is someone behind the scenes really pushing Meho and Poison to hate on Teressa…they both kinda give Juicy a pass which makes no sense. They kinda always have Poison has said he hated him but it would be better if were more humble (I think the first season he was on RHONJ)
        Does T have a sordid past with someone close to MeHO? Who would be pushing these buttons?
        It truly does not make sense that families would do this. I think I have a research project.
        I mean Richie can’t think for himself and wants to be one of the guys and it is kinda obvious that T and Kathy don’t have a relationship, I know they say they used too growing up but I had a best friend in HS and the most we communicate now is on FB with an occasional comment on each others page…my feelings are not hurt nor do I expect to be included in her life. (not in a bad way) So back to my initial point just because growing up you were close does not mean you will be in adulthood. There are no feelings lost between these two. Didn’t T say at the first fashion show (s3?) when Kathy was telling her about Audrinana (sp?) that she didn’t know her any more so she didn’t know?
        This whole thing smells of a set up…maybe it is Kathy and Monica? Maybe Kathy is jealous that T went to college and had a career and was able to build on top of her former life as a corporate buyer? Aren’t T and Mel the only ones who have a college degree?
        I know Kathy and Jac hold cosmetology licenses. Does Caroline hold any degrees or licenses?
        Did Kathy and Monica go to school together or did Kathy do her hair to do business like they were doing together there is some connection.
        Sorry folks my uncle was a cop so I do not believe in coincidence.

        • Sylvia smith
          October 24, 2013 at 6:46 PM

          I know one thing for sure. If Teresa had a sordid past, other than the current charges, it would be blasted everywhere. As far as a wife, mother, daughter, daughter in law, friend and businesswoman, she’s squeaky clean.

        • OldNJLady
          October 25, 2013 at 1:50 AM

          This entire story has made me sick. I have never dispied someone more that I do Lookers and now Joey as well
          I personally think that Lookers has been driving the hate train since the day that she married Joey. She has filled so many heads with stories and lies about Teresa. Look around, Everyone that Lookers is friendly with all have a negative opinion of Teresa. Even the people that Teresa barely know like Jan. How could Jan say that Teresa is selfish when she has even seen her or talked to her since lookers wedding until this year when lookers invited Jan for lunch. I think Lookers has cried and complained to Joey for years about how Teresa does this and Teresa does that all because she has to be the star of the family. Notice there are no problems with her sisters that treat her like a princess but she has a problem with everyone else including her step sister that she never ever speaks about, invites to parties and films with on RHONJ. Look at how quickly she turned Jac and Chris. Gregg and the Manzo’s against all with the back of lies about Teresa doing all these things to her and that Teresa said all of these nasty things about them. Notice that none of them were ever able to say that Teresa did or said something that they heard or saw themselves with the exection of the one sentence that Jac swears she heard in CA. Still doubt that Jac heard it herself and not from Kathy or Lookers.

          Joey is indeed filled with posion. The poison is Lookers! She is one sick woman who I can wait to see get her time in hell.

          Excellent job Fame!!

        • dch60
          October 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

          Melissa was mad that Teresa got picked for the show and she didn’t. When she finally devised her devious plan using Danielle to give the producers only God knows what… I’m sure she claimed knowing all kinds of juicy details about Teresa and they would all “bring the drama” for the show. Bravo/Andy love that stuff. Especially since Andy seems to have a grudge against them himself. I really don’t think it’s any juicier than that. IMO anyway.

          Even Melissa’s friend, Sue(?)(the one that spilled the cheating “rumor”) said that Teresa was nice to Melissa and tried to be a good sister-in-law. She claimed she was not particularly fond of Teresa either, so she didn’t say that just to be nice to Teresa.

      • pjbottoms
        October 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

        I agree

  3. Tony V
    October 24, 2013 at 5:49 AM

    Lets not forget at the Gorga x-mas party Joe Gorga looked right in Monica Chacon’s eyes and said, “I’m sorry I don’t know you but she’s my sister I can’t have you here”, “I don’t know you”. You hired her and I’m sure paid her for Title Work. Wow, I knew it all along.

    • October 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM

      Thanks for this, Tony! I added it to the blog. I haven’t watched the episode since it originally aired, and I didn’t remember this.

    • bobby brooks
      October 24, 2013 at 2:28 PM

      It is possible that Joe Gorga actually did not know Monica Chacon, his partner Robert Hiza may be the one who worked with Monica on the paperwork.

      • Jack Hole
        October 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM

        Right @ bobby brooks, but that still means his reaction was unnatural! Think of how YOU would act in that scenario…you might say something more like “we have never officially meet but, or I know we have worked distantly on business but…” those are defiantly different than “I don’t know you!”

        If I have said it once I have said it a thousand times–the cast were ALL in on the behind the scenes “take down” of the Giudice’s! What we have been witnessing are THEIR reactions to their guilt, some more than others(which has been to try to justify their actions by dehumanizing/villainizing Teresa and Joe).It was very likely initiated by the Gorga/Wakile’s to get on the show-perhaps Bravo did not know how deep it ran in the beginning, but then again, how could they have NOT? They had to have done their homework. This is another reason why Teresa felt so betrayed and was over the edge with defensiveness during Season 3! As she has pointed out, contracts and negotiations take months to pan out. Andy calling her the Sunday before the Gorga/Wakile’s were due to film,and then continually blaming her for feeling hurt, was deplorable!!!!! (This, by the way, is where Andy lost me for good. It is the evidence that he, just like the rest of the cast is a snake in the grass)!

        I am of the thought that Jac and Joe Gorga actually have some remorse about what they have done, but it has gone too far and they were in too deep by the time reality set in. Going even further, I suspect Jac’s hand was FORCED by either Bravo(for being a no-show to the reunion) or both them and her family to try to work down her own case-this explains all of the double talk and pure nonsense she has been putting forth throughout 2 seasons. And I think her self-medicating (we know about the drinking for certain) was about her guilt towards Teresa, not about Nick’s Autism. Often times I think what Chris and Caroline are doing is justifying to her why what she did was right-again, to sooth their consciouses. And the same goes for Richy towards Kathy, and Melissa towards Joe Gorga. They are always buzzing negativity in their ears like little reminders “this is why you have done this! You are right, she is wrong…” and all the while we have NEVER seen Teresa (other than LISTEN to things Kim D brought forth) do anything to any of them.

        And for the record, I still think Kim D was in some cahoots too–it is still being downplayed the fact that her and Kim G are SIL’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????

        They will all reap what they have sewn, that much I know.

        • October 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM

          I have been having very similar thoughts, Jack Hole. Thank you for posting this comment.

        • bobby brooks
          October 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

          Did Monica Chacon introduce herself to Joe Gorga at that party? Do I really believe that Joe Gorga remembers the name of an attorney that prepared a deed for him over 5 years ago? I bought a house over 5 years ago and refinanced, I can’t even tell you the name of my mortgage broker whom I actually met, let alone the title lawyer that prepared the papers. And I used a referral from a good for the refi, but still have no idea of his name. This is just not the smoking gun link in my opinion.

          • October 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

            She sat with his wife at the fashion show two months before that party. It’s not like tickets are free and seats aren’t reserved. Monica has been around. It’s not about a 5 year old deed. It’s about the fact that all these people don’t just do business together, they’re in the same social circles but on camera, they pretend they’ve never even heard of each other. It’s a matter of the cast assuming the viewers won’t realize they’re lying because very few people bother to research the inconsistencies. Which is why I’m grateful for Fame, Faux, and everyone else who picks up on things that don’t pass the smell test.

            • Jack Hole
              October 25, 2013 at 3:25 PM

              Thanks Fame! 🙂 I agree agirl! 🙂 And we will just have to agree to disagree bobby-respectfully! 🙂

              BTW, I am also of the thought that this is the 1st season that the entire cast had to “follow the story line” the major way that they all did(like pretending to not know Penny…) I do not think that S 3/4 were AS contrived as S5 at least not on Teresa’s behalf! Meaning, we all know(Fame, you really spearheading the thought when you had enough and took down the blog) that this is for the most part fake. I do agree but I just think it RECENTLY got fake to this magnitude. I think there have been little things here and there(like Melissa supposedly watching the girls for Teresa’s Fabillini Party when there was editoria/twitter evidence otherwise)but I wholeheartedly believe that Teresa was betrayed and set up by her family and employer beginning in S3.

          • Sylvia smith
            October 25, 2013 at 4:01 PM

            If that attorney was publicly and loudly trying to put my sister and her husband in jail,
            I’d remember the name. And if it didn’t ring a bell initially, I’d do some investigating. Melissa, Joe and her sisters, haunt every blog about RHONJ, comment, tweet about the most minor Incident. They know All fhe players and their roles. Chacon has been mentoned for several seasons. I bet there’s more of a relationship than signing one document. Way too much of a conincidence. Also, during that time Guidice was still partners with Metropole so he probably referred her to Gorga.

          • November 2, 2013 at 10:05 AM

            Its very likely they knew one another via biz. Fame do u still have all the convoluted loans joe gorga took pit and the small banks that were involved. Imo this is what the feds are after and chacon as title esq is deep on the moddle of that puddle…
            Great job as always fame…. I havent watched season… Ill watch marathon. Hope all is well w everyone

        • Sylvia smith
          October 25, 2013 at 3:52 PM

          Jacqueline hates Dina. Dina was close to the woman Chris was engaged to when he started cheating with Jacqueline. Teresa wouldn’t choose between them. I think that in some ways that justified in Jacqueline’s mind, her constantly pumping Teresa for private incriminating information and taking what she could eek out to the Feds directly or Monica or the Gorgas who, in turn, passed it on. I will never believe that Jacqueline’s insane drive to get Teresa to incriminate herself on camera was out of friendly concern. I will always believe she was working with authorities so her own case would be viewed more favorably. I don’t know if that kind of information ever really comes to light but I hope so.

        • dch60
          October 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM

          TSIL was trying to make a deal with Danielle to film with her the second season. Danielle refused because even though she was not getting along with Teresa, she obviously still has scruples. Danielle did agree to pass some e-mails, or letters, or some kind of info to the producers of the show for TSIL. We can only just imagine what kind of stories the famewhore concocted to get on the show… what promises she made. We have been hoping that Danielle kept copies of this “info” and she would produce it at some point. Either she didn’t keep anything (like she said she did as a threatening tweet to TSIL) or she has others reasons for not disclosing it. My call is she didn’t keep anything even though I kinda find that hard to believe. She may have misplaced it in her moves… God only knows the things I’ve lost the last few times I’ve moved.

  4. Disappointed
    October 24, 2013 at 6:24 AM

    Great detective work and so sad. I wonder if the Gorga’s and Wakile’s are in cahoots with the Feds? It would explain why Mrs. Gorga would be positive on her last posting.

    • October 24, 2013 at 12:10 PM

      I have katedj09 to thank for the detective work. She found the legal documents and noticed Monica’s name as the deed preparer. She also pointed out that Joe sold one of the properties to Richie cheap, who in turn shared his good fortune with a friend who just happened to be a police captain (and is now the police chief). She was also the one to remind me that in Melissa’s season 3 episode 10 Bravo blog, “Little Miss Trouble,” she refers to Monica as “a complete stranger.” Kate didn’t asked for credit, but she deserves it! Kate, thank you so much for the research and sending everything to me! 🙂

      • October 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

        Awww, thanks! I do my best! I know I don’t post much, but I’m mostly just a lurker – everyone on here already says what I am thinking or when they say something new it just makes me think of something new to investigate into! Keep up the great work putting it all together for everyone!

        • Sylvia smith
          October 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM

          When you saw that name, you must known you hit gold! Great job.

        • dch60
          October 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

          Thanks katedj09 for your excellent detective work! And of course thanks to Fame for all you do too, including providing this forum for us. I’ve had this site on my bookmarks since I first discovered it not long after you began to blog.

          After everything they’ve done to Teresa, a friggin’ close family member, they’ve reaped what they’ve sewn. And they’ve sure provided us with a lot of dirt to reap from… Fame could write more than one book of all the blogs… there could be an entire series! And it wouldn’t be full of bs like TSIL’s is. Wouldn’t that be great if Fame did put all of this into a book and it hit the NYTime Best Seller’s List?… hehehe… a girl can dream.

  5. LifeIsGood
    October 24, 2013 at 6:52 AM

    Wow! This is shady as hell!

    Why on earth would Gorga go through the trouble of purchasing that property to earn a few thousand and then turn around and practically give it to Richie? I understand the mentality of a flipper, but Joe is supposedly a developer/builder. You mean to tell me that he nor his partner saw the potential profit and slack-jawed Richie did?? Not buying it for a second.

    I hope this story grows legs.

    It doesn’t surprise me one bit that Joey lied yet again when he claimed Monica was a stranger.

    • Silvana
      October 24, 2013 at 7:50 AM

      Interesting point life is good hope we all eventually get to find out.

    • October 24, 2013 at 5:31 PM

      wonder if anybody has checked to see if gorgas have pd taxes

    • dch60
      October 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

      Good point is right. Maybe “someone else” is doing sheisty things to avoid paying his share to Uncle Sam… just maybe… or something like that… hmmmm

  6. adioslunatic
    October 24, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Fame – excellent work – riveting post!!!

  7. October 24, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    How many times have the Gorga’s and Wakile’s approached someone and said “I don’t know you” or “who are these people?” They must think the viewers are stupid. Maybe this is why Sr. Gorga is supposedly not talking to little Joey, he knows he had a part in ratting out his sister. Remember the apt over the garage and TB turned Joe Giudice in for not getting a permit? Real Estate developer my arse, he was a flipper plain and simple, now he is a landscaper, the business his sister helped him get started. From the looks of those properties no improvements were made. I agree with LIG, it is strange that Gorga would lose out on such a lucrative deal to Richie.

    • parkview
      October 24, 2013 at 7:51 AM

      I dont thnk he is even doing landscaping anymore. When does he have the time? He is always following Messy around, pouting for the cameras.

      • October 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        Doesn’t he work 14 hours a day according to Melissa’s Twitter 😉

        • October 24, 2013 at 12:38 PM

          According to Lil’ Miss. “I lie about” Everything TB starts work at 5am and works until 7pm!

          • Miami53
            October 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

            Maybe in the summer but certainly not in the fall..Its still dark at 5:00 am. Of course, if he was like the builders we had for our house many years ago….arrive at 8:00 am…chit chat…9:00 coffee break….lunch one hour….another break in the afternoon and done by 4:00. I was able to actually count each piece of wood that they did that day. They started in September….wasn’t hot then. We had a construction loan so the bank would give only so much at a time….they wanted more one time but I told them the bank wanted to see more done….I fibbed.

          • October 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM

            I don’t believe missy for a minute about joe working those long hours. I would like for her to come follow my hubby then she would know what working long hours really is.

            • YorkshireStar
              October 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

              Or mine …. He was leaving house at 7am to be in office every day for 7:30. Then not returning home until 8:30-9 every night.
              Not physical labour but mentally challenging and staring at a computer all day.

              Then his employer decided no bonuses so he was like f-this I aren’t putting all the extra work in for no recognition. So now he finishes at around 5-5:30pm every day

              • October 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM

                Don’t blame him @Yorkshire. Right now my hubby leave our house at 4am for his hour and half commute, then works 12 to 14 hours seven days a week for 30 days then off for 7 days. He is never home before 7:30 pm. Thank God his week off starts this Monday, we are not spring chickens anymore.

          • GPM
            October 24, 2013 at 4:23 PM

            I’m almost inclined to give TSIL the benefit of the doubt on that one. If that’s the only time you can go to the bathroom, I think you’d have that schedule down pat!

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 24, 2013 at 4:49 PM

            Well I’m sure he needs to be up at 5am to start applying his spray hair, lip plumper, etc, It takes a lot of work to get that pouty, pissed off look…

          • Sylvia smith
            October 24, 2013 at 6:51 PM

            Then how is he skinnin’ and grinnin’ in’ at all her mid-day appearances at gas stations and strip malls! I also hear that the kids actually live with her sister Lysa. Anybody know if that’s true!

            • October 24, 2013 at 8:08 PM

              Love this: skinnin’ and grinnin’. I’m not even Southern or American but I swear, Jamaicans have adopted this one, I hear it so often. I’ve read the same thing about her sisters taking care of the kids. That’s why they’re so free to do lame events.

          • caffee taylor
            October 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM

            Many towns in NJ have ordinances that prohibit landscapers or builders from doing work before 8 am.

            • Sylvia smith
              October 25, 2013 at 4:08 PM

              I have a landscaper or gardener that comes by one a week. He works damned hard from dawn till dusk but even putting in that many hours, he lives in a nice, modest home, not a mansion. Maybe high level Landscape Architects or owners of large landscaping companies draw a huge salary but Gorga is neither. They’re lying.

              • October 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

                Thank you ms Sylvia, You speak the truth.

      • dch60
        October 25, 2013 at 5:52 PM

        You may be right parkview. He used to have a website for his business… Gorga Enterprises. I’ve seen it in the past. Now when you try and go to the site there’s just a message saying “this website is under construction.” It looked pretty constructed to me… I don’t know what he would have to so drastically change with it.

        His home improvements construction license expired in 12/12. Why let it expire? Even if he’s not using it all the time… just to let it expire? That’s strange too.

  8. Sylvia smith
    October 24, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    Maria Chacon is the sole reason that the charges against the Guidice’s were pursued. Maybe they deserve it and maybe not, but the feds pick and choose who they are going to devote years to investigating and someone with legal knowledge, tenacity, connections, good inside sources, , and a serious grudge, pushed hard. She said it’s been her focus for years. Those inside sources are obviously Joe and Melissa, Kathy and Rich and Jacqueline. The pieces are all here. Chacon’s relationship with the Gorgas and Wikiles goes back years despite Melissa claiming she’s a complete stranger. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that this is the information that Melissa and Kathy gave to Bravo to get on the show. That they could bring conflict and drama far beyond what was the norm on these shows. It would be a firestorm! Teresa knew before they came on that they were friendly with and probably working with Chacon. This had to be the real source of the conflict. Cast has said over and over that they are contracturally and legally forbidden by Bravo from discussing certain matters. it’s clear that this is one of those matters. That’s why it’s difficult to put together the puzzle without excellent well-researched blog sites like Famewhorgas. It had nothing to do with stripper or cheating rumors. It had to do with them colluding with the person trying to take Joe and Teresa away from their kids. I don’t know. It seems like Bravo should be somehow legally responsible for the lies, subtrafuge, intentional setups and ruination of the Guidice’s lives. They didn’t just let the show evolve. They manipulated all the way to this disastrous end. That’s not reality TV.

    • Disappointed
      October 24, 2013 at 8:44 AM

      After reading your response, it makes sense Sylvia, coupled with Fame’s fabulous detective work. Now it sickens me that they would do this to their own family–all in the pursuit of fame and supposed fortune? So the question is, do the Guidice’s know that the Gorga’s et al are behind their demise and set-up with the Feds?

      • October 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

        TERESA GIUDICE,,THIS IS TO YOU.WHY IN OUR FATHER GODS NAME DO YOU WANT OR HOW CAN YOU HAVE THESE PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE HOME RELATIONSHIPS KNOWING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY????????????HOW TERESA???????????????WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ,WHY WOULD JUICY ALLOW THIS ,SINCE THEY HAVE BETRAYED YOU ALL FOE A FEW BUCKS????/AND I SAY THE GORGAS ,WHIGILIES,TINY AL N CERO,AND THE LARITAS>WHY TERESA?
        THIS TARES MY HEART OUT

    • Deb G
      October 24, 2013 at 10:18 AM

      Sylvia, again I agree with you 100%! Why didn’t Andy ever bring up the Laurita’s issues??? He constantly asked Teresa and Joe about everything.

      • October 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        I didn’t know where to put this. Please don’t eat before reading. It involves Andy Cohen and his nose. http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php?t=589627

      • Sylvia smith
        October 24, 2013 at 7:00 PM

        The Lauritas and Manzos are off limits. Maybe Andy thinks he still has a chance with Albie or Gregg, but you can’t get a word of truth posted about either of them. For instance the Laurita bankruptcy fraud charges which I won’t bore you with. Suffice it to say, they stole from the little guy as well as charities to support their lavish lifestyle. Or Jacqueline’s newfound, phony involvement with her children. She’s always on vacation, getting surgery or hawking her pitiful projects. Or her history of physical violence, her vendetta against Dina, and her own stripper and arrest history. I wonder how on earth the Lauritas were allowed to start up a new business while fraud charges were still pending on the apparel company they pillaged?

    • BravoFan22
      October 24, 2013 at 5:15 PM

      Chacon wants to be on TV too, obviously. I also heard Kim D tried to put together a TV pilot about her and her “friends” that went no where. Something about the “real” rich people of NJ. Wish I could remember where I saw that post. When is she going to realize no body gives a crap about her. She’s so desperate for fame. It’s pathetic. Kim D said she was also the source that Jacqueline kept referring to (the “friend” who tipped her off about the strippergate setup). The producers were trying to get Kim D to come on the finale and throw the Albert cheating rumors in Caroline’s face, and supposedly (Kim D’s version of events) she wouldn’t do it, and they went with the strippergate thing instead.

    • Sylvia smith
      October 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM

      Sorry my mind says Monica and either my fingers or autocorrect keep typing Maria! You know who I mean.

    • Jack Hole
      October 25, 2013 at 6:46 PM

      I really love how you word this Sylvia!

  9. Silvana
    October 24, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    Great story yet again Fame. Thanks for your hard work I really look forward to reading all your posts. I guess this does explain why the wakiles always side with the gorgas over the Guidices they are financially bound to each other. Glad these people are not my family or friends!!

    • Detroitrockcity
      October 24, 2013 at 8:23 AM

      Im just at a loss for words!?;/

      • Detroitrockcity
        October 24, 2013 at 8:30 AM

        Wow!? I can’t believe what scum they all are!! I guess you learn from the best?? But who was the “Teacher”???????!!!!???; /

        • Silvana
          October 24, 2013 at 9:02 AM

          That’s an interesting question Detroitrockcity. BTW love your name we are huge kiss fans hubby and I:-)

          • Detroitrockcity
            October 24, 2013 at 10:59 AM

            Its my daughters fav movie and we are big Kiss fans too!! Love my City,we have alot of great history here;) Lots of talent, music and of course umm, high profile other stuff!?; / I’ve met alot of cool people, none happy to say like the pos bottom dwellers on this joke of a show!! Got some grea

            • Detroitrockcity
              October 24, 2013 at 11:05 AM

              Some great stories about real celebs that would make you laugh! Alot of folks hang out in D -town, believe it or not;)

              • October 24, 2013 at 2:18 PM

                Speaking of celebs, will kind of a celeb James Cameron (we call him Jim) is my ex brother in-law My sister was his fist wife. I think it is on number 4 or 5 now. Funny story, when they first meet he would come over to go swimming a lot, my Dad is OCD and would make him wear a swimming cap. I know, off subject. Sorry

              • Silvana
                October 24, 2013 at 10:01 PM

                Would love to hear some of your stories would also love to visit Detroit one day……..better start saving its a long way from Australia but 1 day we will get there maybe when my kids are old enough to stay home on their own;-)

        • October 24, 2013 at 5:47 PM

          TINY AL N CARO

  10. RahRah
    October 24, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    This reads like a manual to commit money laundering. That kind of profit is unbelievable, it has to be money laundering.

    • Silvana
      October 24, 2013 at 9:04 AM

      So do you think that they all Gorgas, Hiza’s and wakile got a piece of the pie after the final sale?? That makes a lot of sense.

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:40 AM

      As soon as I read this, money laundering came to mind. It makes no sense at all to allow Richie and his partner to make $320,000. I could wrap my head around this better if TB were a wealthy elderly person and wanted to help his less fortunate cousin’s husband. Who, with a growing family and a wife who lives to spend money, does this? Something smells.

      • October 24, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        I think you are right on with your opinion @moma.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 24, 2013 at 6:09 PM

        I agree, Momajackie, Also, someone else posted that during this period, Melissa claims that they could not even afford diapers for the baby.

    • patriciafromco
      October 24, 2013 at 12:49 PM

      might explain why or how Katfish, who has only been a mother and a wife before joining the show has a net worth of 5 mil…????? put everything into the wifes name ??

      • mc
        October 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

        whoa….5mil? How on earth could that be true and where did you get that info?

        • Patricia
          • Miami53
            October 25, 2013 at 5:45 AM

            I don’t believe its “Kathy’s” wealth. Things were put in her name for a reason. I remember reading somewhere that they had to get someone to update or decorate the house to look like they had money for the show. They always rented a beach house in the summer instead of owning one.

  11. lucille
    October 24, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    too bad,we don’t know someone who will investgate all of these people.dig deep,smear them all over tv,papers like they did to teresa and joe. kim,monica,melissa, poison all of need to be exposed, national enquirer,where are you now? joey really betrayed teresa

  12. Miami53
    October 24, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    I have to apologized if I should make mistakes on the # of the Sections. I’ve stated before that I had a friend whose husband was looking to make some money. He partnered with someone to buy rental apartments that would only rent to Section 8?, 11? or 19? (this was over 15 years ago, I don’t remember) They had to make sure they followed the government rules of what it had to have. They were in areas that looked just like Patterson, NJ. Never had to worry about getting their rent money, it was mailed to them from the State every month. They started to live a great life, several trips a year…fixed their home. He even quit his job because they were able to live off the money. Everything was going great…until…a child ate some lead paint and then the state became involved. They had to clean out everything, even the dirt around the house was contaminated with something. It cost them thousands and thousands of dollars. It lasted for months. The husband was so upset with it all, he had a breakdown…couldn’t function for awhile. He sold all his properties..paid off his mortgage. He would then brag to everyone how he is retired and all…well, guess what, with all that time he had, he became depressed again and finally had to get a job. He became a janitor in a department store. Sorry if I got off topic but seeing those pictures reminded me of their situation. I still can’t figure out how chicklets made so much money from that sale. For that kind of money, you could build a house for yourself….very strange indeed.

    • suedechik79
      October 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM

      And partnered with a ranked cop, no less. No offense to cops, but the stories I hear about rotten cops from someone that worked in an inner city for decades far outnumber the stories I have heard about good cops.

    • Daisymay
      October 24, 2013 at 10:36 AM

      Yup. Maybe that’s how he is building his new McMansion in Franklin lakes right near Lauritas and manzos!!!

  13. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 24, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    One thing that I am *very* suspicious about is how all of the houses are pretty much identical in construction. What are the statistical chances of a person buying almost a dozen houses spread across a large city that are almost identical? And they are all foreclosures? I think there is something much deeper there. So Missy’s Purse Holder and Hiza coincidently bought 10 foreclosures that look to have been built by the same person using a single design? What are the odds? And look at the relationships between the players and the parts they play. A “developer/builder”, An attorney or two that own a title search company and are real estate brokers. Foreclosed properties that all look to have been built by the same builder – that *all* of these characters seem to have a hand in at one point or another. Something definitely suspicious going on here….

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      If I could put this in big bold caps I would, this is fascinating. Good work Fame and Saddle. Suddenly a lot of things make sense. This goes a lot deeper than we thought.

      • pjbottoms
        October 24, 2013 at 3:25 PM

        The amount of the shade on this show….geez

        • mc
          October 24, 2013 at 9:08 PM

          Then the audacity to come on to TV and make the type of accusations they have made. It’s truly mind boggling.

    • elemcee
      October 24, 2013 at 2:31 PM

      I am puzzled by the almost exact same design, also. I am going to show the hubs those pictures and ask his opinion as to why all the houses are pretty much exact.

      • Jack Hole
        October 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM

        I did not put too too much on the design. I noticed it but it did not strike me as odd because I recall when I moved to Buffalo in 2000(stayed until the end of 2004) and I was really taken aback at the “typical” North Buffalo style house. The duplexes are up/downs instead of side- by- sides and when I tell you, I cannot count on one hand how many of the SAME house I was in (bc they are literally ALL the same on the inside, no lie)!!! My take was that was the design style-for whatever reasons- within that community?! However, this of course is just me. I also promote going with your gut when you get a feeling! 🙂

    • October 24, 2013 at 5:55 PM

      AND SADDLE ISNT SOMEONE ON BRAVO PAY ROLL THAT IS TIED IN WITH MONICA ,KIM G, THINK I SAW IT ON HERE SOMEPLACE

    • Sylvia smith
      October 24, 2013 at 8:37 PM

      Wow! How can that be a coincidence? Same style, same building materials. Is the history of the properties available on, perhaps, an Auditor’s site? I’m going to have to poke around. Who can resist?

    • mc
      October 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

      Saddle- great observations! It really is suspicious.

    • vallygirl
      October 25, 2013 at 4:16 PM

      Hi Saddle!
      From what you’re describing sure sounds to me like one big real estate scheme doesn’t it!

      And the most puzzling thing of all Joey MarcHo being a builder. How is that even possible Meho admitted that Joey MarcHo can’t do basic math and from what we can all
      tell he is unable to read ( that’s why everyone reads everything to him out loud). There’s no way I mean no way he would ever be able to pass a contractor’s exam it’s a very very hard exam most importantly anyone that takes that exam has to know math inside and out. Not knowing the answer to 5+5 isn’t going to cut it and Meho said that herself “Joe can’t do second grade math”.
      There’s a story here Fame and the person that commented that they all need to be investigated is right. The viewers are owed the truth after all it is suppose to be a reality show right.
      We are owed the truth enough is enough.

      • dch60
        October 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

        He did have a contractor’s license… he let it expire in 12/12.

        • Daisymay
          October 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

          He probably “passed” the exam with some inside help. The guy can’t even READ – go figure

          • Silvana
            October 26, 2013 at 1:10 AM

            Yeah like how Christopher from The Sopranos passed his exam to be able to sell shares in season 2;-)

        • October 25, 2013 at 9:17 PM

          I think the question we should ask is how he got that license. That scene with him and Antonia blew my mind. You can’t build without basic math. The houses would fall down. You need reading comprehension and math so add this to the list of things to ponder. He probably paid someone for the license or to take the test for him.

          • vallygirl
            October 26, 2013 at 6:57 AM

            Hi Agirl,
            There’s definitely something shady about Joey MarcHo and Richie.
            These two are more like Lifestyles of the dumb and dumber lol

            • Miami53
              October 26, 2013 at 8:02 AM

              ROTFLMAO…Too funny….I used to watch that show “Life Styles of The Rich and Famous…but this is even funnier with Chicklets and TB!!!!

        • Anonymous
          October 26, 2013 at 1:11 AM

          There is confusion about this concept of contactors license.
          In NJ everybody can get contractors license (that just means they have registered the business with the state) as long as the business is insured, the owner doesn’t have certain criminal offenses on the record, doesn’t owe child support, doesn’t owe government money in school loans and is not too behind with taxes.
          This license has to be renewed every december in order to run a legitimate business. There is no exam. The cost of this license is 75 dollars; insurance on the other hand is very expensive.
          I think Horga didn’t renew his license because he couldn’t lay money out for the business insurance, or got declined because he acquired disqualifying criminal offense, or owes money to the government.
          Unless we are talking about builders license which I know nothing about.

          • Jack Hole
            October 26, 2013 at 6:40 PM

            Thanks for the clarity Anon!

    • vallygirl
      October 25, 2013 at 7:45 PM

      Hi Saddle!
      You I keep reading and reading your comment because as I’m reading it, it reminds me of all that predatory lending that was taking place.
      So many people got caught and prosecuted if I remember correctly. Here’s what in my opinion they might doing. Someone because they are not too smart built all these houses that have to look the same why? Because the builder is not too smart to begin with so the plans and dimensions are just copied over for each house. The builder has one attorney he or she uses you know title search and stuff. They sell these homes to people they know can’t afford the mortgage because they’re an easy target and it’s almost certain they will loose the home to foreclosure. In comes in a person in their tight little circle and buys the foreclosed home does whatever ever cheap repairs that need to be done and bingo the home is flipped for way more than it was sold for to the family that lost the home to foreclosure. In the end the builder, the lawyer, etc all share in the spoils.
      You know what got me to understand this whole little crooked circle was one of the comments somewhere on this blog about Chicklet Teeth Richie in regard to a home (I read it right) Joe MarcHo sold to Richie for dirt cheap and Liver lips Richie turned around and made a huge profit. I was thinking what dumb idiot would be ok with selling a home dirt cheap to a family member or to anyone for that matter, and not be bothered by the huge profit that was made after he sold it for cheap. Unless he was taking a cut too.
      This was happening all over the country remember a few yrs ago? People were being allowed to buy homes knowning they couldn’t afford these homes only to end up foreclosed. Then in came in investors to flip these homes for huge profits because they turned around and sold these homes to people that could afford the jacked up price.

      If this is true these dumbasses never stopped doing these dirty flips

      • Silvana
        October 26, 2013 at 1:14 AM

        Also remember the scene with liver lips (love it) and his son at the gas station (petrol station here in Oz) and his son said that he would like to go into real estate because you don’t have to play by the rules? Interesting remark from a what 14/15 year old to make don’t you think?

        • vallygirl
          October 26, 2013 at 12:01 PM

          Yep Silvana I remember Chicklet’s kid saying ” you don’t have to play by the rules”.
          You know what there’s a story there with these so called houses. I would be willing to bet that every single one was sold to one another in this circle and they turned around for a huge profit and I bet every single house was a foreclosed home before it was flipped.

        • suedechik79
          October 26, 2013 at 1:10 PM

          !! I missed that.

          Bragging to their kids, no less. Id say unbelievable but I totally believe it.

  14. October 24, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    It is intriguing to read the depths to which Joe Gorga will stoop to take his sister down. I’ll set Melissa, Kim G, Monica et al aside for a moment to look at Lil Joey-Because ultimately this is his flesh and blood, Teresa is a women he has known since the day he was born. Yes, siblings can be reduced to pretty awful relationships, but I really have never, ever heard of a dude actively trying to imperil his brother-in-law’s business and otherwise take Joe and Teresa down in the manner he has.
    On a basic level, it doesn’t fit the macho male Italian archetype, to engage in the affairs of the women around him. On a more complex level, his behavior indicates some sort of Freudian complex with his sister, her activities, her marriage, the fact that the two dominant males in her life are her husband and her father-Both of whom he spites like it’s instinctual.
    Melissa and Kim G are head cases, pure and simple. Bitter, nasty trolls who were completely put off by how Tre lives her life. Teresa is a girls’ girl, she can be bubbly and cute (see the bubbies scene at the plastic surgeon’s office), she brought Jerry Springer antics to reality TV in the table flip, her daughters are precious, her friends are successful, her home is gorgeous (Jan already pointed out Melissa’s knack for coveting), and her sometimes vapid nature endears the audience to her like, yes, like Lucy Ricardo. This drives these ladies bat shit crazy, that they don’t have Tre’s organic personality. Nope, theirs is all fake,
    As for Monica, the picture above says a thousand words to me-She is walking right through the foreground of the shot. I am willing to bet chances are high that she purposefully walked in-shot, because she does want to be highlighted on TV herself. She wants to peddle her shitty little firm. Title lawyers (you might want to skip ahead if you’re a title lawyer) are to other lawyers as GP’s (you might want to skip ahead if you are a GP) are to surgeons-They are helpful, educated and necessary, for sure, but when it comes to the serious stuff, you want the guy who’s trained to take your life in his hands. I don’t think Monica has the brains to try a case in traffic court.

    All of these people are slugs. Blech.

    It’s funny what I have noticed about my own perception, too-I am not jealous of Teresa’s fortune. She is the perfect housewife in that way, she makes watching her lavish life fun, I want to see her shopping and hopping, and her fashion, oh her fashion! On the contrary with Melissa, Kathy and Jacko. I don’t like the fact that they have money. I hate that such slimy people can live so well when there are near saints out there that live in squaller. Melissa would argue that I, Teresa, other viewers are jealous of her, and that’s a typical response-for a sixteen year old. The truth is that people don’t feel she has earned it. Any other guys that flipped a house at an opportune time, and we might say he was smart, or lucky. But Joe and Richie? Our immediate reaction is that something must be up, something must be not quite right. Because we perceive them as shady with a nasty disposition. I see Juicy as shady, too, truth be told, but his jovial disposition brings me, the viewer, around to appreciating the paradox of his character.
    There is no paradox in MeHo/Lil Joe, Kim G, Jacko, Monica. They are blatantly jealous and vicious opportunists with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. They leave me with absolutely nothing to be jealous of, and nothing to admire.

    • October 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM

      God that was brilliant! So spot on.

    • Disappointed
      October 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      That was a brilliant analysis and exactly how I feel. Thank you!!

    • GPM
      October 24, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      ITA — absolutely brilliant analysis!

    • elemcee
      October 24, 2013 at 2:35 PM

      Jayla, this comment was perfection! Pure perfection.

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

      Absolutely Brilliant !!!! my thoughts exactly… I always wondered throughout the last two seasons why Kathy never ever took up for Teresa , even when she knew Melissa or Joey were wrong… I just never got it.. Now I do… This blog is wonderful.. I feel comfortable commenting.. I was on another blog site last night.. I think it was called All about the Real housewives and the people commenting on there were horrid… if you didn’t agree with them they would blast you with horrible words..I will never go on there again… Thanks Fame for making such a nice blog site and your wealth of information is very refreshing !!!!!

      • Miami53
        October 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        I read that site too….There are two posters..Estelle and JPG who are always ready to fight you…especially Estelle. She is always looking for a fight knowing that the posters like Tre and hate TB and Sushi Lookers. I’ve never read any disagreement with anyone on this site. Thanks Fame for a great blog.

        • Silvana
          October 25, 2013 at 4:05 AM

          I read all about real housewives as well and as miami53 said estelle and jpg are always ready to go and the frustrating part is they have no logic and it can get pretty irritating I just scroll past their comments now but I think they are the reason that the others get defensive and then take it out on newbies. But if you use logic and talk nicely you can have a normal conversation the the Tree fans and agree to disagree estelle and jpg just get everyone in a tizz that’s all.

        • dch60
          October 25, 2013 at 6:32 PM

          I read that site sometimes too. Lately there’ve been more than just the two regular Tre bashers. There’s a bunch of new ones who are just as bad as Estelle and JPG. I really hate it when people accuse others of using multiple accounts but maybe they’ve gotten all their little friends to join in or something. I’m not a regular there, but have gone there often enough to notice the jump in Tre haters and looker supporters. It’s one thing not to like Teresa, but to actually LIKE TSIL? I don’t know… I just don’t understand how anyone could tolerate that kind of backstabbing of your own family member. It’s not like TSIL has hid it well… I saw who she was from day 1… simply just for joining the show and then the christening. They didn’t pass the smell test. Now? I just don’t understand how ANYONE could defend them. Thank goodness there are so many posters here now who feel like I do because I’d drive my boyfriend nuts if I complained to him for lack of having anyone else. My one friend watches but honestly… she just started this season. This may sound silly… but I haven’t even brought it up. I’m afraid she’ll be a TSIL fan and then things may get ugly… lol… not really but she doesn’t go to the blogs or tweet or anything so she may not know better and I really don’t feel like having to explain everything to her… lol

          • Jack Hole
            October 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM

            Ha! I can understand your apprehension! I think even though this discussion could be about the show, Melissa/Teresa…to many (myself included) it is about right and wrong, fair and unfair, bullying and the bullied…that kind of stuff. So I just “get it” that you do not want to go there! It is about what the show represents, more than anything!

          • Silvana
            October 26, 2013 at 1:19 AM

            Dch60 I agree about talking with people who only watch the show but don’t read the blogs it can get frustrating and arguments can start almost happened with my neighbour she only watches the show so now I don’t discuss with her best keep it light like politics or religion;-) hehehe

    • Sosa
      October 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

      You are right on. That’s exactly how I feel about these characters.

    • Jack Hole
      October 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

      I think you are spot on and further, the reason why Teresa always emphasized fixing the relationship with her brother is because he is blood. Conversely, this could be the exact reason she has really struggled to mend with Kathy- because she is blood. I think of everyone, Kathy’s involvement hurt Teresa the most because she felt the sisterly bond with her she has not had with anyone else AND this was all unprovoked.

      So when Kathy does her doe-eyed, “I am just here, by- standing, saving your baby, while coincidentally trying to start a business that I never happened to mention to you during our whole life together( her proverbial deserved pie) ” routine, of course Teresa is insulted!!!

      • dch60
        October 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM

        Good point. In addition, it must REALLY hurt Teresa for Kathy to take TSIL’s side in everything. Just another betrayal of a family member. How much can one person take? Especially since Teresa has obviously not done anything wrong. If she had, they’d be able to give a good reason why they act the way the do… instead we’re supposed to “read between the lines.” Yeah right… in other words… They don’t have even ONE GOOD reason!.

        • Jack Hole
          October 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM

          RIGHT @ dch!!!! I am glad that there are so many ppl in the world(like the fame-ly) who GET how painful all of this must be for Teresa!! Then adding insult to injury- they blame her for everything and make her apologize for fictional things and then do not accept the apologies EVER! Then they accuse her of making empty apologies, they talk about her and her husband like dogs and then hold her to task for every breath that comes out of her mouth…like you said, how much can one person take??? It blows my mind the number of ppl that DO NOT see what is going on??!!!

          • suedechik79
            October 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

            Its sick and its very hurtful for her, but its clearly listed in the contract (which people keep signing). Production has the right to broadcast any version of you that theyd like, libelous or not.

            • Jack Hole
              October 26, 2013 at 6:53 PM

              No no, that is clear but my understanding is that Teresa was not released of her contract when her fam as brought on, which would indicate she was not in a position to walk away. As for her re-signing recently, my guess is in light her recent legal news, it is the best way for her to remain a working, TAX PAYING, member of society. I just hope when this is over that her and Joe Giudice move away from those scum, her family, and NEVER look back. My sense is, after what she has been through the past few seasons, she would not re-sign if she was not on legal dire straits. I mean , she has said outright how agonizing it has all been and then there was some weirdness at the end of the season where Bravo did not post her blog so she posted it on her site? I think it is obvious to her now that she is not well-liked by her employer but she is the highest paid nonetheless!!! Also, if Dina comes on (and the bully leader is gone) there is a major chance that the tables could be turning on the Gorgas—who, as we know have already pretty much demolished their name anyways.

              • October 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM

                Call me optimistic or a dreamer, I picture years from now, Teresa in Italy with children and her parents.enjoying Sunday dinner with family minus TB and TSIL. Drinking wine Juicy made, enjoying dinner and loving each other. One day Juicy comes home and things are cherished more than they ever were before. Gia lives in the home her grandpa owned with her husband and children. The home her mother remodeled shortly after they moved to Italy. It is filled with many thiings, but mostly love, love, love.

  15. October 24, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Is it possible that Monica Chacon was working with the FBI to investigate the Giudices, but in actuality, she and others were being investigated? Was Bravo helping the FBI? The Wakiles and Gorgas came on the show as a family connection, but why air film of Monica Chacon and Hiza associating with the Gorgas?

    The FBI were investigating a mortgage fraud scheme in Atlantic City, N.J. Seven properties were bought and sold 17 times in a little more than six months. Jong Shin purchased the properties and then recruited “straw purchasers” to buy them. Shin recruited and made large cash payoffs to real estate appraiser Michael Oxley to falsely inflate the appraisals. Shin also recruited and paid off a local title clerk, Anna Shea of Equity Title Agency.
    http://www.fbi.gov/newark/press-releases/2011/new-york-woman-convicted-by-new-jersey-jury-in-multi-million-dollar-atlantic-city-mortgage-fraud-conspiracy

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

      kayswhims,
      Is it possible that Monica Chacon was working with the FBI to investigate the Giudices, but in actuality, she and others were being investigated?
      ——————————————————————-
      It must have been your comment that lead me into deep thought on this theory. I think you’re onto something. It makes no sense why the feds would really be involved with a menial legal issue between two men. Chacon openned a can of worms and she’s so stupid, she really thinks she’s the victim. She claims she’s doing this for her client but I don’t know any ‘title lawyer’ who is hell bent on getting justice four years later for one client. It’s hard to get a federal investigation. I think your assessment is right on Kay.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 25, 2013 at 1:20 AM

        If the feds are involved, I think they are using the indictments against Teresa and Joe to get them to talk about issues they do know. I think they also maybe asking Teresa and Joe to talk about her brother, Joe Gorga. There is a reason why the feds are involved and they want a mass arrest.

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 25, 2013 at 1:27 AM

          Oh, and this may also explain why Chacon is continually repeating that it’s her client who wanted the feds involved. Chacon got the feds involved for her own personal vendetta, but she’s using her client to take the fall for contacting the feds. She started something and if you look at her now in the video, she doesn’t appear so high and mighty with a loud mouth like she did on the show. She was foul mouthed and furious and screaming how she’s gonna get the Giudice’s. In the video above, she can barely speak without a stutter. She looks nervous a bit. I think she’s worried and knows now what she’s started. She Started A Federal Investigation Into Everyone, Including Herself.

          • OldNJLady
            October 25, 2013 at 2:17 AM

            Monica was not representing Juicy’s ex partner. Monica’s husband was. She has claimed many times that SHE was the one suing Teresa and Juicy that was not true.
            The tie in between her, Joey, Lookers would was Joey’s secretary at the time, Rich and Kathy leads me to believe that she was doing it more for them then for Juicy’s ex partner.

            • Miami53
              October 25, 2013 at 5:47 AM

              On the video she says “my client” .

              • October 25, 2013 at 3:13 PM

                Yeah, someone, I think kayswhims posted the transcript on another article and Fame posted it on this one. Monica definitely refers to him as her client as does the interviewer. I’m too lazy to look up the actual case to see who the attorneys are plus I have real life stuff to do. Whether she is or isn’t the attorney for Joe’s ex business partner, she’s certainly behind all the crap that’s behind stirred up. Now I understand why they all looked so uncomfortable at the reunion. They were fine talking smack in seasons past but I think they just realized the microscope won’t stay only on the Giudices. They opened Pandora’s Box.

                • October 25, 2013 at 9:30 PM

                  Being stirred up* I’m clearly more tired than I realize. I should go to the doctor next week if the cold doesn’t improve. I should also probably stop writing things on the internet.

                  • Jack Hole
                    October 26, 2013 at 9:31 AM

                    Feel better agirl!

                    • October 28, 2013 at 2:49 AM

                      Thank you! I saw that message and thought it was sweet then completely forget to reply. Very rude. My apologies.

      • suedechik79
        October 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM

        Its not all that hard to get Feds to investigate someone – I had a single friend that was arrested, not for financial crimes, but for a type of illegal sexual activity which he had crossed state borders to complete. It immediately became a federal case. One person, one victim. This is also why I knew that someone under federal investigation would know almost immediately – the come for your computer and other things STAT. You KNOW somethings going on.

        They might be going for a mass arrest like the one we had in NJ awhile ago, but I dunno. Guess Id have to have more information on federal financial indictments before I could say either way.

        • October 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM

          When it involves sex, kidnapping, children, or something else like that and crossing state lines, it’s automatically a federal case. This was a small potatoes mortgage fraud issue. I think the only reason it can even qualify as federal is the wire fraud. Going off of memory here. So someone had to point them in the direction of the Guidices.

          • suedechik79
            October 26, 2013 at 12:36 AM

            Points taken. They were handed over, but wouldnt they be obligated to investigate once someone got the ball rolling? That was what I figured. I didn’t see it outlandish for them to get involved even if it is just about Joe and Theresa.

            • October 26, 2013 at 1:08 AM

              You know, I’m not sure. I don’t think so. Plenty of stuff gets ignored all the time. I think someone with connections pushed this. Remember the whole Petraeus scandal? An FBI agent got that ball rolling because a friend asked him to. This is just my opinion but what Teresa and Joe did is simply not important enough to invest this much time. Arms dealers, yes. Drug kingpins, yes. This is chump change. I’m with whoever said they’re going to try to use them to get to bigger fish.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 25, 2013 at 1:44 AM

      Kay, I liked the link. Good Reading for sure. It makes me wonder if all the housewive husband weren’t involved with this sort of scheme. I guess we’ll find out one day. I hate to say this, but even Teresa and Joe were on television showing off their Pizza Joint and Apartments. Haven’t seen that again. What happened to it? Joe also said he bought or was going to buy the gas station across from the pizza parlor. Maybe the entire family is into this scam. It’s a shame but it would explain how the husbands earn such a high earning lifestyle with no education, no skills, and they spend more time on this television show than they do at a real job. We’ve never once seen any of them working. WIth the exception of Caroline’s husband. At least he is seen working at the Brownstone. The rest of the husbands… big homes, big cars, and never at work. Personally, I think they should all be investigated, with the exception of Caroline’s husband.

      • October 25, 2013 at 3:21 PM

        Caroline’s husband is one of the most suspicious of them all. Did you miss the whole Water Commissioner scandal?

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 25, 2013 at 6:52 PM

          agirl, Yes, but Chris Christie gave Big Al a pass and allowed Al to resign rather than go down with the fbi’s mafia sting they did a couple years/several years ago. I think it was the Jersey Sting and they arrested 127 or 147 mafia connected members and politicians. Big Al was going to get busted but Christie spared him. Yes He Did.
          The Jersey Sting was related to Lebonese, Jewish and Italian’s who were in a big real estate scam. Very Similar To This Story. Obviously, that scam is still going on. Read the book, The Jersey Sting.
          Oh, Any agirl,
          I read someone’s comment on here that reminded me of Caroline’s job discription. In season one of Real Housewives, Caroline said she was a Realtor! I completely forgot about that. So Yes! I Agree That Caroline And Big Al (hmm, opposite Tiny Al) Should Be Investigated.

          You know something?
          What if all these women and their husband’s chose to join the Real Housewives of New Jersey, believing the show and it’s celebrity type status would actually ‘protect’ them from going to prison? If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. How often do celebrities go to prison?

          • October 25, 2013 at 7:32 PM

            They would be even dumber than I think they are if that’s the case. I think they really thought no one would check out their lives. No one checked up on the women from the OC or NY.

          • Jack Hole
            October 26, 2013 at 7:00 PM

            I wonder if this was the same “sweep” that Junior, Rene Graziono’s hubby got caught up in? I remember watching Mob Wives at the time and she was spazzing out about the huge Fed bust that took down 140-something mobsters…at the time I recall thinking to myself,” that still goes on??!!” I was too lazy to look it up(and this pre-dates my blog involvement) so I thought it was kind of trumped up to add drama to the show?

            Even if the Jersey sting was unrelated to the Mob Wives sweep, it still shows that the Feds see this group as a hot bed of interest.

            • Rosalie Marie,
              October 27, 2013 at 7:54 PM

              Yes! Jackhole that is the sweep. I know U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder held a press conference. I believe it could have been that one. I do know that Governor Chris Christie gave Al an ultimatum… Resign or Be Prepared For Charges.

              No doubt in my mind, Chris Christie (and I am a conservative) was looking out for Al Manzo. I think it was the same as the Jersey Sting. By the way, in the book, The Jersey Sting, mentins two Manzo brothers… I think one of the brothers was names were Frank and Ron Manzo. I can’t say they are related Al but is it really possible to be a coincidence? I also think it was Ron who attempted to run for elected office in Jersey.

              • Rosalie Marie,
                October 27, 2013 at 7:55 PM

                Oops…
                By the way, in the book, The Jersey Sting, MENTION two Manzo brothers… I think one of the brothers was names were Frank and Ron Manzo

  16. October 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    I was convinced of Messy & Jacko’s guilt bout this connection to Chacon & the investigation when they both cried so hard at reunion prt2, when Andy asked Tre bout indictment. They couldnt compose themselves on camera cuz they know their participation in this disgusting take down. I think that Tre is just not seeming 2fight anymore w/them cuz “enemies hurt you” She knows how her bro & sil & “friends” sold her & her family out. “Guilty Wiltys” is what my aunt used 2 call it. I wouldnt wana b any of them on judgement day. Its beyond cruel & disturbing. No moral compass! Im just so upset for the 4little girls, that their own uncle & aunt did this 2 take their parents away from them cuz of sheer jealousy!! All we can do is pray 4 Karma 4 the Gorgas Waikilis Lauritas, their own court dates should be on the horizon soon.

    • tam
      October 24, 2013 at 10:41 AM

      I feel that Wacko Jacko may have a little remorse, but Messy Ho and Chucky had none at all. Melissa tried to shed a tear and just couldn’t I noticed everytime she got ready to say something about the indictment TB cut her off and started talking as if he was afraid that Melissa would reveal something like their involvement in it.

      • Laram
        October 24, 2013 at 9:51 PM

        Although, wasn’t it interesting when the advice Caro gave Teresa per the Bernie conversation, was to know whom your friends are, and side-eyed Jac? I, also, believe Jac cried and Melissa looked like she was going to vomit bc of their part in Giudice’s investigation.

      • Jack Hole
        October 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM

        Yes Tam! I think that Joe Gorga, Jac and Kathy have remorse but Richy, Chris, Caroline and Melissa constantly reel them back in with their negativity!!!!!!!!! I know Chris seems like the breath of fresh air, but he has been corrupted by his sister into thinking that this is the best way to protect his family.

        Honestly, we already know for a FACT that Jac is the type of woman who sides with what is the right thing to do OVER her in-laws/family(hence the Danielle/Dina drama.) I think this has hurt her to her soul that she joined in/played a major role in going against Teresa. It is not who she is fundamentally. Caro and production were likely in her ear about how Nick needs her more than Teresa’s kids their mom because of his condition. That is why whenever Caro gets the chance she plays the “Jac is a strong woman/you do not know what she goes through” card.
        I am not a Jac fan at all, but based on what I have seen from S1-TODAY, she has completely changed her paradigm on many things, she constantly appears inebriated, she acts impulsively in public, and she is overly emotional. In my world, these are signs of a person who is crying for help or otherwise having some major interpersonal issues. This is not how a normal person reacts because “their friend set their OWN SIL up at the town fashion show…”

        Smh…

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 24, 2013 at 11:40 PM

      Domino, I got that very same vibe! I actually watched the reunion and I couldn’t help but feel cold regarding Jacqueline and Melissa’s tears. I also noticed how Melissa kept too quiet. As If She Was Connected To All Of Teresa and Joe’s Legal Issues. I felt Melissa had her hand in it.
      I’m so glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM

        Yes! And maybe that’s what Teresa meant when she told Jacqueline Karma comes back to your kids. Teresa’s family is being torn apart because of Jacqueline, now Teresa maybe talking to the feds about ‘Jacqueline’s’ legal issues and soon, Jacqueline may face prison. Take me from my kids, I’ll take you from yours. Who Knows. Maybe I’m thinking about this too hard.

  17. October 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    WOW.

  18. October 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Great work, Fame!

    Wouldn’t it be grand if this information was published in a reputable newspaper such as the Star Ledger and/or somehow got into the “right hands” and was further investigated by the proper authorities?

    (So happy to be here in Laguna – thank you all for your well wishes!! Talk to you later!!)

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:32 AM

      Don’t know why I can’t leave a comment here, ever. I can only post replies. I cannot place ever seeing Monica Chacon. I have done a search for her and can’t remember what she looks like. Anyway, this show sounds like it should be called Real Mob Families instead of a housewives franchise. I just hope all these people get out of this alive.

      • October 24, 2013 at 12:07 PM

        That’s weird, danadol – I have no idea why either.

        P.S. I added a photo of Monica and her husband to the blog plus the video and transcript of the interview Monica and her husband gave to CNN’s Showbiz Tonight.

        • Miami53
          October 24, 2013 at 12:53 PM

          I had to laugh watching the video…apparently Monica gets tongue tied just like Tre…What’s that word I’m looking for”…what an a$$. The way they talk you would think it was the President of the any country that they brought down…talking about their 15 mins. of fame. People should look into their background too!!

    • October 24, 2013 at 2:35 PM

      That’s so exciting Jeannie, ENJOY!!

    • October 24, 2013 at 7:58 PM

      Thank you, Jeannie! I wish I were there with you in Laguna!

    • October 24, 2013 at 8:16 PM

      Hope you are having a wonderful time. Enjoy!!!

  19. October 24, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Caroline Manzo is senior manager of Opus I Properties LLC , A privately held company. It is offices of Real Estate Agents and Brokers located in Totowa, New Jersey. Us magazine states her as the owner. Maybe there is a reason she was eager to remove Monica Chacon from the Christmas party and off camera.

    I don’t think the raging anger towards the Giudice family is over granny butt, a cookbook, recipes, etc. Why was Danielle

    http://www.manta.com/c/mmy0xz0/opus-i-properties-llc
    http://www.powerprofiles.com/profile/00005162578284/OPUS+I+PROPERTIES+LLC-TOTOWA-NJ-%28973%29+389-8085
    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrities/caroline-manzo

    • October 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM

      Sorry forgot to finish my thoughts lol. Why was Danielle Staub allowed to leave Bravo show? Bravo doesn’t seem to have a problem with over the top drama which makes me wonder why Danielle and Dina could go away before the crapfest started with Gorgas and Wakiles. I think the fact that Danielle’s ex husband was an undercover FBI informer, is the real reason everyone was wigging out over associating with Danielle. In her past she flipped and worked with the FBI against her boyfriend. We know TSIL contacted Danielle and the records of conversation was saved.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Staub
      http://www.thesmokinggun.com/tags/danielle-staub

      • pjbottoms
        October 24, 2013 at 3:24 PM

        When Danielle was last interviewed by Andy on WWHL, she said her “only regret” was not having asked for more money before she walked away. So I wonder if she was offered an “early retirement” settlement to walk away? Danielle also made Andy state that he did not fire her and he said he was sorry. In hindsight, I think Danielle knew too much about everyone (especially Dina and Jac) and Caro and Jac were determined to make life miserable for her. They tried to do the same to Teresa, but it didn’t work.

    • Detroitrockcity
      October 24, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      Idk who’s screwing who? I have some shady family( In -laws) both of arabic desent? When ever they came under question by IRS or Feds, their establishments simply changed hands, went under someone elses name,problem solved!? Lived here for years “tax exempt” My sister has lived almost her whole marriage “tax free “!!

      • Sylvia smith
        October 24, 2013 at 7:23 PM

        Careful. You don’t know who’s monitoring this blog! Well, actually I guess we do. The entire cast of RHONJ and probably the FBI.

      • mc
        October 24, 2013 at 9:22 PM

        Sorry, this sounds so juicy that I want to hear more. I know it sounds horrible but…I can’t help it.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 25, 2013 at 1:59 AM

      Oh, I forgot about that. Caroline said she was something of a realtor in the very first season of NJ.
      Okay, I change my mind. Caroline and her husband should also be investigated.
      WTF? All these stories of fraud, and the Giudice’s are in trouble? What about the rest of the clan? Take them all down. It’s really amazing. Not one of them speak well, dress well, have a job, but they certainly know how to steal money. They can’t read or write, but they know how to add up the cash.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 25, 2013 at 2:20 AM

        No, I don’t really want to see my favourite family go to prison. I love the Giudice’s. I had the fortune to meet Teresa at her book signing and she is very nice and very patient with each and every single fan. She came across to me as very genuine and it’s easy to see that she really does appreciate her fans. She doesn’t charge you to see her either. So, if Teresa ever comes to Baltimore again, I’ll buy her book, meet her again and have her sign my book. It’s a good deal for the price of a book. Why buy the book for the same price on Amazon, when you get three great deals all wrapped in one. I think she was duped by her own brother and I can’t understand for the life of me why. She said at the book signing, “Please don’t ask me any questions or make mean comments about my brother because he’s my brother and I love him.”
        She was very protective of her brother and look how he treats her. Shame!!

        • Silvana
          October 25, 2013 at 4:14 AM

          Maybe joey gorga should take a leafy out of his sisters book. But I also think Teresa has rose coloured glasses on when it comes to her brother she believes that he is like this because of his wife but I think he is like this dispite his wife.

          • Miami53
            October 25, 2013 at 6:02 AM

            IN my own opinion, I don’t believe she has rose color glasses on….what is the one thing that we all love about Tre…her love of her four daughters…and what do you think would be the next love of her life….her niece and two nephews. She will always protect the kids to the end. That is why I think she will never let go of her brother.

            • Rosalie Marie,
              October 25, 2013 at 7:06 PM

              I agree with you Miami! What I love about Teresa the most is her family. Joe and Teresa, their parents, their children. They are so much fun! I wanted to get my own family together and can tomatoes! Teresa and Joe have made a wonderful home and created beautiful, happy memories for their children to think back on someday when they become wives and mothers themselves. Their children will say to their children, “I Loved My Mom, Dad And Grandparents! They gave me the happiest time of my life!” This is very true. You can see that Joe and Teresa are genuinely happy, loving, nurturing parents. I Hate To See That Happiness Torn Apart Because Of Outsiders. I’m sorry but as far as I’m concerned, If Joe Gorga and Kathy did have a hand in Joe’s legal troubles, than they are outsiders as far as I’m concerned. Teresa and Joe need to turn their backs on them. Turn Your Back On Your Brother! He Is Not A Brother.

        • corky21
          October 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM

          I met her too, and her daughter Gia, both very polite. My theory about Teresa and her brother is this: Teresa is the oldest and has to look out for him. She has been mad and distanced herself from him, but she does come back around. He doesn’t. Joe has issues. He always has. As a man with a bad education, life can be hard. Joe was in trouble for the rape; he’s been in trouble with “others” over money and property; we’ve seen him make poor decisions regarding his sister; he’s made bad decisions in the past, partying with the wrong crowd, etc. etc.

          I believe deep down, Teresa understands he’s not too bright; he comes off as trashy with his personality, etc., and as family member, she has to sort of be the big sister and let most of his dumb shenanigans go, because he’s so clueless. The parents must feel the same way. They must see that he’s not the sharpest tack in the box, and as a man, that can be more difficult to endure.

          Teresa knows that Melissa is controlling Joe, and that is what hurts the most. When your family member is brainwashed and then is distanced from the family, it is sad and disgraceful. But, in the end, if the brother is happy to stay angry with Teresa, not apologize for his behavior in the past, and move on and be involved all together as a family, then so be it. He will suffer the most.

          • black enga
            October 26, 2013 at 12:24 AM

            I agree with all of you, TB has a deep hate for Joe Gi because he is everything his father wanted him to be.

            I want to ask you all something, we see the way he wallows in self pity when things don’t go his way, Melissa plays on his insecurities and turns it around for her own agenda and benefits. Her and her family tell him what he wants to hear and he know its wrong what they say about his family but he has this need to be appreciated and accepted as a man and a provider and they give him that. You have all read the post and tweets they leave. Oh Joey your the best and so on. He has sold his own soul because they make him believe he is a God and calls himself that all the time. This is the best that Melissa has ever had. Look at her track record, no one wanted to marry her and have family with her.

            I believe that Joe Giudice had a lot of connections and tried to show Joe (because of Teresa) and Rich the ropes and they got greedy and took unnecessary risks that brought heat back to him so he cut them off and they became resentful, add to that Teresa got accepted on the show and you have a perfect storm of hate from Melissa and Kathy. Now add to that the viewers love her and her kids, the table flip moment and the Andy He-HO happens, and BAM!, an overnight sensation. Despite the bankruptcy, the money is pouring in because all her business ventures are a success (which I don’t think her husband expected) and she gains more enemies, Caroline, Jacqueline, their associates and henchman.

            They all thought she was stupid, and God forgive me for saying this, including her own husband. He has grown on me this season but I remember all the “STFU’s” and ” I don’t want to hear about it” on camera. When the gravy train dried up she didn’t leave him, she stood by his side and took the reins to provide for her family. He cant do anything but respect her and stand in awe right along with the rest of them. He knows what side his bread is buttered on and he knows it’s because of her that his head is still afloat, she could have left him in the dust. She loves him so much that she lets him be the man in the relationship even though he wasn’t the best husband to her in the past. I think she will continue to stand by him and her brother because of her love for her family. She wont rat anybody out, her husband, her brother, his wife,or her friends and they play off of that fact.

            This tailspin of greed in betrayal is what has brought us to where we are today with this family and cast. What would be the ultimate way to pay The Giudices back (with all parties involved)? We all found out on season 3, 4, and 5.

            This is going to get so much worse before it gets better. I pray for her, her parents and children when it is all over.

            • Miami53
              October 26, 2013 at 7:55 AM

              Excellent post….I could see that happening especially all that you said about Tre and her juicy!

            • suedechik79
              October 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM

              Hit the nail on the head with that first sentence. Theres where the real pain may lie for Joe…being a failure in his parents eyes as opposed to his cousin who married a good woman (Theresa) that didn’t NEED to be vetted by the family.

              Its rare for me to look at someone and not see immense pain as the root of intense anger.

              • suedechik79
                October 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM

                Ok. I messed up lol. The Joes are obviously not cousins. Whoops. I meant friends. Too many family relations to keep track of!

    • OldNJLady
      October 25, 2013 at 2:25 AM

      A lot of realtors start an LLC for their real estate business even though they are working under a broker like Coldwell Banker, century 21. It is one way to protect your personal assets in case someone tries to sue the agent for a car accident or other event. Realtors can also write off more and not pay high self employment taxes. I am sure that Carolin had that company for those reason.

      • Rebecca
        October 26, 2013 at 1:56 AM

        No, they start PLLCs. She formed an LLC because she never had a license. Real estate licenses are regulated so you can always search for licensees at each state’s website.

  20. October 24, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    So was all of this house flipping occurring in the same time period when poor Melissa couldn’t even afford diapers for her children? I see, so they could afford to purchase multiple houses, but not diapers. Got it!

    God she’s stupid!

    • suedechik79
      October 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM

      That’S what happens when you base you life around lies and deceit, cameras recording or not – you start to not be able to keep up with your lies, or you see a lie that could fit better for the situation and youll use that instead of the original, so on and so on…

      • October 24, 2013 at 10:25 PM

        I so agree with you suedechik79 my mama always said ” if you tell one lie,, you have to tell 10 more to cover up the first one “… Melissa is too stupid she cannot keep track of her lies or deception.. I seriously think we will hear in the future where one of these people try to cause harm to themselves over all this… No one can cause a family to lose their mother and father and live on as if its la la land…Well I know I couldn’t….

    • Sylvia smith
      October 24, 2013 at 7:24 PM

      That’s another of her lies. N one episode she said they’d suffers, couldn’t afford diapers. In another she said Joe’s always done well.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 25, 2013 at 2:05 AM

      House Flipping. In Maryland house flipping is illegal. Perhaps this law should be a federal law. In Maryland’s case, flippers were covering up serious problems, selling the homes fast and next thing you knew, the poor buyer got stuck with an unsafe lemon. Homes falling apart under aluminum siding. Flippers became a serious threat to home buyers and their families so Maryland has put a stop to flipping.

      • OldNJLady
        October 25, 2013 at 2:29 AM

        It is illegal in most states is not all if loans are involved. The has to be at least a 6 month period between sales. The home could be sold prior to the 6 months but the home can only sell for a very small percentage over the original sales price.

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 25, 2013 at 7:10 PM

          In Maryland, from the very date the home is purchased, the owner has to wait three years before they can sell it.

  21. October 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    I just can’t wrap my head around the amount of hate it would take to want to do this to not only a husband and wife, but elderly parents and 4 innocent children. This goes way beyond jealousy over a STUPID T.V. show.

    I can see (but not fully understand) the desire to get even with someone whom you feel has slighted you. This is more than getting even for not being featured on an episode of “reality” T.V. This is a BLOODBATH! What action could justify this type of revenge? Murder of a loved one? Up until TB and TSIL came on the show I don’t remember ever hearing the name Monica Chacon.

    It almost feels like an episode of Snapped, only the revenge was not murder it was a public lynching. Maybe Juicy (and I love, love, love him) had a fling with Monica and she expected him to leave T for her. When that didn’t happen she put her plan to destroy them in motion, recruiting TB, TSIL, Manzos, Lauritas and Wakiles. Of course they would go along because they had their own jealousies to contend with and wanted to see T taken down.

    I hope that someday the actual truth will be told and all the players will be exposed. Until that day comes I just can’t believe that jealousy is the motivation. It’s incomprehensible to me.

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:31 PM

      honeycutt5 I so agree with you..When Joe and Melissa, Kathy and Richie joined the show.. I knew.. I just felt something !!!! They are evil !!!..The way Richie would speak in his confessionals about Teresa and Joe.. Like he totally hated them.. then nearing the end of this season.. he was all ” Make up with your sister , she’s all you got ” and I never saw Kathy once act like she even wanted to be in the same room with Teresa.. and Melissa, she is just a stupid, jealous,, Whore,, ( sorry ) but she does act like one..But,, Teresa’s only brother.. he is just sick in the head……The last two seasons have been so uncomfortable to watch.. yet I was compelled too, just hoping Teresa would slap the hell outta Melissa or spill the beans on her brother selling their parents home out from under them…

    • Miami53
      October 24, 2013 at 11:05 PM

      Fame….does anyone know what kind of house Monica has…maybe she was jealous of the home Tre and Juicy had, Did she go to school with Tre

      • OldNJLady
        October 25, 2013 at 2:31 AM

        Monica and her husband had to declare bankruptcy in the last few years and it is my understanding that they lost their home to foreclosure.

        • Trickievee
          October 26, 2013 at 5:18 AM

          OldNJLady:

          black enga 10/26/2013 at 12:24am said: “I believe that Joe Giudice had a lot of connections and tried to show Joe (because of Teresa) and Rich the ropes and they got greedy and took unnecessary risks that brought heat back to him so he cut them off and they became resentful,”

          If black enga’s speculation is true; is it possible that Joey and Richie convinced Monica that they could assist her with saving her own assets; yet when they couldn’t deliver, Joe Giudice was blamed? Therefore bankruptcy and foreclosure were the only alternatives for Monica and her husband. Thus setting the stage for a full blown vendetta against Joe Giudice (and subsequently Teresa once her popularity took off).

          BTW, I value and respect your comments. Thanks.

    • suedechik79
      October 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

      A jilted lover situation makes more sense as motivation than plain ole jealousy. Still, to take 4 years of your life and dedicate them to destroying someones family, its just such a loooong time to not get over anything.

  22. Anonymous
    October 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Shady Boots!

  23. October 24, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    I never post but always read. This time, I had to ask a quick question. Do all of the housewives lie about knowing people and fabricate stories or is this something new since MeHo and Midget came along? Just honestly wondering because I am 100% sure MeHo ruined RHONJ for me and thinking she has for quite a few others. I saw right through MeHo the second she came on. Kathy took me a little while longer as did the Midget. I was also a huge fan of Rich and Caroline their first seasons (ugh). As for Jaq, I saw her for what she is during the first season finale. I truly feel bad for T. There are so many reasons why all of which have been discussed here so I wont re-hash.

    • mc
      October 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM

      Meho ruined it for me too! I don’t understand what it takes to get someone off of the show but I sure hope it’s Meho and Kat next. I don’t remember what episode it was, but in season 3 Meho and T were filming for the first time and you could see how fake Meho was to T and how deeply hurt T was. T couldn’t hide how hurt she was and was simply trying to get through filming. I know that it’s a bit off topic, but I can’t forget that scene.
      Why would you lie about knowing someone if there is proof that you’ve met on multiple occasions? ODD.

      • October 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM

        Me Too !!!! Now I cannot stand to look at her… she is not pretty in the least little bit… Teresa has more class in her little pinkie than Meho has throughout her whole body…

    • Sosa
      October 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      Yep, she ruined it for me too. I only saw a few episodes of the last season and like 2 of the current one, none of them during original airtime. Honestly, it’s just not a good show anymore. It’s boring and these people are honestly too creepy and shady for me. I have to especially call out richie, a perverted homophobic slob. I miss the old days. I feel the same way about rhony in that it has also lost my attention. It’s unfortunate that Jill was brought down by external pr, while in the show, that group was probably the most lucrative for Andy. I think he made a mistake there. He should do a better job of keeping personal vendettas out of his businesses, because this public forum allows jilted individuals to completely bring down their enemies for the whole world to see.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM

      I also didn’t watch because of Melissa and Joe.

  24. kitty
    October 24, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Did Richie Wakile(& Sons) and Abouzid file BK after the court ordered them to pay Exxon what they owed? What…are they all alums of the same “business” school?! This crowd likes to dance with the Devil.

  25. Lawd u gettin on my nerves
    October 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Their day is coming don’t you worry. What goes around eventually comes around and they will get just what they delved out (or worse) to Teresa & Joe.

    • suedechik79
      October 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      I disagree. Sometimes the bad guy will win; statistically, to have tit for tat ALWAYS work in every situation is impossible.

  26. GPM
    October 24, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Wow, Fame — it’s absolutely incredible how you brought all this information together in one place! And great that you gave all the NJ “super sleuths” credit as well.

    This is solely my opinion but the 8 12th Avenue transaction looks like it could be masking a payoff to Police Chief Charbel Atie.

    In a scenario like that, people who stand in the position of Wakile (and possibly even Gorga and Hiza) would be considered straw men who receive a small amount of compensation for standing in the chain of title and holding it for a period of time until it’s considered safe for a payoff to be made. It’s interesting that the price increased exactly $10,000 — from $45,000 to $55,000 to $65,000 (based on the price of Atie’s 1/2 interest) each time it exchanged hands.

    • suedechik79
      October 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM

      Reading that made my stomach turn. Feels like that’s a bingo right there.

    • suedechik79
      October 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM

      Are there any decent, moral people in positions of power anymore?

      • corky21
        October 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

        Sadly, I think not. I believe many start out good, and want to make real changes, and do for others, but then, the power and money get hold of them, and it’s all down to hell after that.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      October 24, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      The Google Street view of 8 12th Ave show a sign in the window “Own this home no $ down” and is dated July 2012

    • October 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM

      I like where your head is at with the potential payoff to Charbel Atie; that’s what I thought initially! But, after research, I just don’t think this is the case. According to the property records, Richie and Charbel are joint owners (buying, mortgaging, and selling) of no less than five (5) properties in Passaic County, NJ between 2001 and 2013. My gut tells me there are more in Essex County, but unfortunately their records are not online. In my opinion, Ritchie and Charbel appear to simply be good friends – maybe relatives – and business partners. That doesn’t mean the Ritchie doesn’t use Charbel for connections to the police department though!

      Also, the math is a little wrong: Ritchie and Charbel sold the property for $375,000, which, since they bought it from Joey and Hiza for $55,000, would result in their profit being $160,000 each.

      • GPM
        October 26, 2013 at 11:27 AM

        Re: math, Wakile bought it from Joey and Hiza for $55,000.

        I was referring to Atie’s cost when he purchased a presumed half-interest fro Wakile, i.e., a half interest for $32,500 would equate to a total value of $65,000.

        It’s the huge increase in value from $65,000 to $375,000 in just eight months that looks suspect, particularly given Atie’s position.

        I do note that the deed to Mario Cabral is headed “New Construction Deed.” Was considerable construction done on the property during that eight months? Any construction permits issued? If there was, that might explain the increase in value. If there wasn’t, it’s difficult to imagine what rather extraordinary circumstances would justify such an incredible price jump in such a short period of time for this transaction.

        • October 28, 2013 at 3:04 PM

          Ah, I see what you are saying. Makes sense now.
          I agree that the value increase is very suspect.
          If a construction permit was issued, it was issued by the city of Paterson – I didn’t check that…

  27. GPM
    October 24, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    In addition to Atie it looks like Wakile may have some business connection to Municipal Court Judge Joseph Perconti. The following comment was posted on Allaboutrh in December 2011:

    “Below is a lttle bit of something that is on “North Jersey.com” website. I took the 1st paragraph and then a mid paragraph with Wakile’s name in it to post here, the entire aticle is too long to post here. Anyone familiar with what happened in that story?

    Below is the article from North Jersey.com:

    The financial fallout from a series of failed real estate ventures involving two Passaic County Municipal Court judges, Harold P. Cook III and Joseph Perconti, has landed one partner in U.S. Bankruptcy Court.

    Perconti also has a business relationship with the Prospect Park police chief, Charbel Atie. Together they each own interests in two Prospect Park houses they rent to tenants, one at 28 Planten Ave., the other at 256 N. 9th St. The third partner is RICHARD WAKILE of Wayne, who frequently appears on the reality TV show “Real Housewives of New Jersey.”

    http://www.allabouttrh.com/kathygivestips/

    • GPM
      October 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM

      I think this might be the article from NorthJersey.com the allabouttrh commenter was referring to:

      http://www.northjersey.com/news/127717793_Judge_files_for_debt_relief.html?page=all

      • kitty
        October 24, 2013 at 2:58 PM

        That’s the article, GPM. I was posting there at the time and actually saved this article. I’ve never understood how Richie’s — and everyone else’s — legal problems flew under the radar with Bravo and the tabloids.

      • suedechik79
        October 24, 2013 at 4:21 PM

        So…a shady cop moving up the ranks, a shady judge, and Richie Wakile all walk into a business partnership, and all Bravo can ever talk about is Theresa and Joes financial issues.

        Since everyone on this cast has major skeletons in the closet, WHY the focus on just Theresa and Joe since Staub left (and, according to another comment, I am beginning to think she was paid a nice amount to leave rather than Bravo declining to bring them back)?

    • October 24, 2013 at 5:56 PM

      Yes, I am working on another blog and was saving Richie’s connection to Perconti for that blog. Here’s an article about it from the Bergen Record:

      Judge’s financial woes lead to bankruptcy filing
      Monday, August 15, 2011 Last updated: Tuesday October 2, 2012, 7:57 PM
      BY RICHARD COWEN
      The Record
      http://www.northjersey.com/news/127717793_Judge_files_for_debt_relief.html?page=all

      The financial fallout from a series of failed real estate ventures involving two Passaic County Municipal Court judges, Harold P. Cook III and Joseph Perconti, has landed one partner in U.S. Bankruptcy Court.

      Perconti, the Municipal Court judge in Prospect Park and West Milford, in June filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection seeking to gain relief from creditors resulting from a series of failed real estate investments he made with Cook, his former law partner, and others. In his petition, Perconti listed $1 million in assets and $3.6 million in liabilities.

      “It was just some bad decisions and some bad luck,” Perconti said of the real estate investments that brought him down. Perconti added he was seeking bankruptcy protection “like millions of Americans have done, so that I can protect my family and move forward.”

      Perconti’s bankruptcy filing shows he personally guaranteed $2.6 million in loans regarding four real estate ventures with Cook. Those projects are the redevelopment of the Pan Chemical factory in Hawthorne, an industrial building in Irvington, a strip mall in Lebanon, and a restaurant and two apartments in Orange.

      Perconti had a minority stake in each venture, according to the filing.

      […]

      Perconti said he hopes to remain a judge despite his financial problems. Cook, who served as Municipal Court judge in North Haledon, Haledon, Ringwood and Wanaque, took an unpaid leave of absence in June, after the state Supreme Court Advisory Committee on Judicial Conduct filed a sweeping complaint against him for failing to report his legal problems to the state, as is required of judges.

      Perconti said he has informed the state Supreme Court that he, too, is a defendant in several lawsuits stemming from his investments with Cook and partners Alexander and Bohuny, who is a former member of the board of directors of Lakeland Bank. Perconti said he had also informed Dolph Corradino, presiding Passaic County Municipal Court judge, and Donald G. Volkert Jr., county Superior Court assignment judge, of his legal woes.

      “My actions have been duly reported,” Perconti said. “Everyone who should be informed has been informed. There is no trickery or deceit here.”

      Perconti, a judge in Prospect Park since 2003, earned $29,793 last year. He has sat on the West Milford bench since 2007 and last year earned $32,761. He also serves as the Wyckoff Planning Board attorney, for which he was paid $3,499 in 2010.

      Perconti also has a business relationship with the Prospect Park police chief, Charbel Atie. Together they each own interests in two Prospect Park houses they rent to tenants, one at 28 Planten Ave., the other at 256 N. 9th St. The third partner is Richard Wakile of Wayne, who frequently appears on the reality TV show “Real Housewives of New Jersey.”

      Perconti said he bought the houses with Atie and Wakile “in 2008 or 2009,” after he was already a sitting judge in Prospect Park. Atie was a lieutenant in the Prospect Park Police Department and wasn’t appointed chief until November 2010.

      Under New Jersey’s Code of Judicial Conduct, a judge is allowed to own real estate in the municipality where he sits on the bench. But the code also holds that judges “should refrain from financial and business dealings that tend to reflect adversely on the judge’s impartiality, interfere with the proper performance of judicial duties, exploit judicial positions, or involve the judge in transactions with lawyers or persons likely to come before the court on which the judge serves.”

      Atie saw no potential conflict of interest in his relationship with Perconti. He said as chief of police, it’s not his job to make arrests, so he doesn’t bring cases to court. And in the years prior to becoming chief, Atie claims he never had to appear before Perconti as a witness.

      […]

      Perconti felt there was no conflict of interest because he’s never had to hear a case involving either of the properties. He could not recall ever recusing himself from a case because of his relationship with Atie.

      His bankruptcy petition lists his monthly income as $15,833 and his expenses at $15,314. That leaves a cushion of $519.

      He is also a partner with Cook and others in four real estate partnerships that have been the subject of lawsuits:

      The complaint filed by the Advisory Committee on Judicial Conduct cited that Cook at one time was a defendant in 43 lawsuits, most of them stemming from the real estate ventures he had set up in New York and New Jersey.

      The state’s complaint against Cook also alleges that Cook attempted to conceal an asset from a creditor by transferring ownership of his Jersey Shore home, first to his wife, then to his daughter. The complaint also alleges that the companies that Cook had an interest in — the law firm of Perconti and Cook, Jefferson Loan, and Puddingstone, a development company — made campaign contributions to politicians in Bergen and Passaic counties during the past decade.

      Another allegation in the state’s complaint was that Cook’s law firm represented Paterson police officers in civil and criminal matters. Judges are prohibited from representing police officers in the counties where they preside. Cook answered that allegation by saying that he did not personally handle these cases, and when he learned that another attorney in the firm was doing it, he put a stop to it.

      The Advisory Committee on Judicial Conduct will meet later this year to determine the validity of the complaint against Cook. The charges could lead to penalties against Cook, including removal from the bench.

      • October 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

        Hey, Fame, the property that Richie Wakile, Charbel Atie, and Joseph C. Perconti owned together at 28 Planten Avenue in Prospect Park they also SOLD suspiciously recently on April 16, 2013. Check my notes and add that in your blog about them too!

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 25, 2013 at 2:27 AM

      Prospect Park police chief, Charbel Atie.
      ———————————————————
      Why aren’t the feds investigating this Atie fellow? It pisses me off. That’s the problem with New Jersey, too much corruption within the system. It’s a shame and citizens there are paying for these crooks.

      • October 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM

        It this the connections TB threatened Anthony Arater with?

  28. October 24, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    We love you Fame. You work so hard to bring these stories to us. Thank you!

    P.S. you also know what your talking about.

    • October 24, 2013 at 6:22 PM

      🙂

      • Luvfamewhorgas
        October 24, 2013 at 8:36 PM

        Dang Fame we are gonna start a petition to get you on the national news. You are like diggin’ it up. Sadly it is public record so why hasn’t any national news agency picked any of it up? You Go! Go! Go! A little blogger bringing out the truth ……………Hey Ellen you need a new show to back? Skip Belchany and go with the Fame.

        • October 24, 2013 at 10:42 PM

          WOW !!!!!….Fame send all your findings to one of the magazines like Life & Style.. they love reporting on the housewives.. and I think they would pay you nicely.. or I hope they would !!

    • Sylvia smith
      October 24, 2013 at 8:45 PM

      Amen!

    • mc
      October 24, 2013 at 9:48 PM

      I agree!! Fame has done some incredible work and while it is more than I ever wanted to know, I simply can’t help but check this site daily (multiple times). Thanks for your hard work and I hope that the fans see how truly shady/jealous the wakiles/gorgas are and get them off off of the show.

      • corky21
        October 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

        me too. Fame is amazing. Only the truth here, always. Love it. I think she should hitch up with the mags too and get some $$$ for her time and effort. She’s got the brains and brawn. Go fame!!!

        • Jack Hole
          October 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

          I agree to all-Fame is the BOMB!! I joked a while back that perhaps Fame is Andy’s alter ego–sorry Fame. It was a total bad one!! Lol, but I am always miffed by how much insight you and YOU ALONE were able to get!!! Good work for sure 🙂

  29. pjbottoms
    October 24, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Excellent Post!!!!The conflict of interest (marally at least) is so obnioxously apparent. If I were Tre, I would not tell any cast member anything! There is an interview of Kim D and her assistant filmed after the first Posche fashion. Can’t post it now, but its on youtube. She has bobbed hair and is sitting in front of her counter. She comes right out and says she’ll do anything for ratings. She also said that the reason Teresa wanted to “say hello” to Danielle after the 1st fashion show is that Teresa heard that one of her enemies brought a lawyer to the show and this lawyer knows about the bankruptsy. Well it makes sense that this ememy was Melissa and the Lawyer was Monica. Teresa wanted to know who was talking behind her back. Daneille and Melissa have said publicly that they never met but they were both at the 1st Posh show during Season 2 when Melissa was emailing Danielle.

  30. Laram
    October 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    I always wondered why Kathy and Marcos were so chummy with Monica at the Gorga Xmas party, where Kathy was continually does her eyerolls re: Teresa with Monica.

    Caroline knows and knew way too much about these families to play so stupid per Bravo/Production. What a crapfest waste of time and lies played on us viewers!!!

  31. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Try THIS one on for size. Gorga Enterprises bought 121 N 3rd St from Cresthill Realty which is owned by Joe Mastropole…. Small world isn’t it!

    • GPM
      October 24, 2013 at 4:27 PM

      Wow, Saddle — when did that transaction occur?

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 24, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        The Deed date is 08/01/2003 and it was recorded 9/12/2003

        • October 24, 2013 at 6:00 PM

          So this was before the falling out between Juicy and Mastropole. Had it been afterward, it would be very damning against Joe Gorga.

    • Sylvia smith
      October 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

      OMG

  32. Saddle_River_NJ
    • Sylvia smith
      October 24, 2013 at 8:56 PM

      That’s funny. Melissa used this as an opportunity to promote herself. Surprised?

    • suedechik79
      October 25, 2013 at 12:41 AM

      Even after all this, with Melissa and Joe likely at the center of all their legal troubles, they STILL invite the Gorgas to their nieces party? The Giudices have bigger hearts than Ive ever seen or really don’t know the extent of whats going on behind their backs.

      Now it makes sense as to why Melissa doesn’t want her kids going over there alone – she might get asked some questions about Mommy or might accidentally say something revealing to the Giudices by accident. The investigation has been going on for years…Antonia seems really perceptive and smart. Id be scared she’d drop hints too.

      I used to think it was sick to not have the Aunts and Uncles spend time with your kids just because you didn’t like them, but this has gone far beyond not liking. If my brother and sister in law were willing to break up my family with jail time by revealing personal information about me, I don’t think Id be letting my kids see him based on questionable character alone. I mean, if youd do that to your own SISTER, what could you do to her kids?

      • OldNJLady
        October 25, 2013 at 2:42 AM

        Teresa will know about everything in this blog in the next few days. Someone contacted Heather tonight and she read the entire thread.

  33. October 24, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    The more information that becomes available the more horrific this sordid tale truly becomes! Shakespeare couldn’t fashion a work dark. Teresa never realized just how much her own family members and friends hated her because she really never did anything to them to warrant such jealousy and hatred – she just had to be her old school Italian self!
    Teresa’s husband helped each and everyone of the other husbands when they needed it. The meeting at the Lauritas before the Napa Valley trip saw Joe Guidice humorously telling both Joey that he was a punk for not returning construction tools and that Richie would still be pumping gas.
    So the husbands and wives parlayed their jealous and hate into the goal of taking those Guidicies down! Screw family ties, screw friendship, the objective was to make them pay! And ironically enough, they all likely were doing the same shady, just the other side of law business behavior.
    Small towns are known for being hot beds of gossip – everyone knows everyone else’s personal and business secrets and who to tell those things to in order to hurt whomever they believe hurt them first. Every time we hear “I don’t know you!” or “Who are those people?”, we know that is probably a big, fat fib!
    So I will continue to believe that all those little vipers and viperettes will one day find themselves under the same legal microscope they led the Guidices too. The show will likely be long gone but we will see a little item on some tabloidy website about “former RHNJ star indicted for (fill in the blank) counts of blah, blah, blah, blah”.
    And it will bring a smile to my face.

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM

      Mine too !!!! cause you know its gonna happen !!!

  34. October 24, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Fame,

    Great Great Article. I am not certain if this was revealed yet, but there is allegedly an FBI probe into whether the Mayor at the time Jose Torres and Paterson City Attorney Sue Champion were selling City property under fair market value without advertising and then the money was being funneled back.

    Atie is Richard Wakile’s cousin and eventually became Chief of Police in Passaic County.

    Faux

    • October 24, 2013 at 5:51 PM

      I didn’t know he was Richie’s cousin – I just updated my blog with that interesting fact.

      I certainly hope Richie didn’t call in a favor to his police chief cousin to alert law enforcement in another district and have them pull over Pete Giudice to run his driver’s license.

      • October 24, 2013 at 6:49 PM
        • October 24, 2013 at 6:54 PM

          Yep, I noted that in my blog.

        • Jack Hole
          October 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM

          Funny, looking at those photos from afar it looks like Kathy and Joey Wakile! Lol…the similarities are crazy!!!!

      • October 24, 2013 at 7:57 PM

        Fame,

        Between you and Faux all the truth is going to come out! Teresa is not an Angel but she sure isn’t the Devil that Melissa, Joey and Kathy are! I know all of us are so proud and great-full to the both of you for putting so much time in doing your blogs for us so we know who are really the slim balls! Please keep it up until all the truth comes out! Trying to play innocent and destroying your own family is unforgivable no matter who you are!

        PS Faux, I am still waiting to hear from my Penelope!

        • October 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM

          I agree!

        • tulip
          October 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM

          I agree with you dox, Fame and Faux have been getting the truth out, and I want to say I appreciate all the hard work. I also can’t wait to hear more from Penelope!

      • Isolde
        October 24, 2013 at 9:45 PM

        I recognized the name of Charbel Atie, as being of Lebanese descent, and wondered if there was a family connection; which Faux has just confirmed. This blog has been great reporting on your part Fame, and those who helped provide information. I can’t wait for you to finish the blog you are working on with regard to Wakile and Perconti.

        If you recall, quite some time ago, I told you that I felt the Wakiles should be looked at closer, particularly Rich, because of his business dealings and him not really appearing to actually be working. As you know, my husband is Lebanese, and they tend to congregate together in their local areas. They tend to be related or good friends if they come from the same area in Lebanon. If one of them appears to be shady (which I think we would all agree that Rich fits that description as well as just plain being an ass), that you could probably bet on the fact that there are shady business dealings going on. It also appears that the mayor mentioned above, is either Lebanese or some Arab descent, and did not surprise me that he appointed Atie, Chief and never said anything about the relationship between Atie and Perconti I doubt that anyone can think that the sale of a property to Wakile by Gorga (which Gorga only made $10,000), but then Wakile sells the same property for over $300,000, a short time afterward, is on the up and up. No property appreciated that much that quickly–nor do I believe that Gorga would cut himself out of $300,000 worth of profit. There is much more to that story, and none of it good!

        I am glad you are delving into all of this, especially the Wakiles, because I always felt there was so much out of line with him, knowing what I know of Lebanese people and their culture. Wakile has always been the opposite of what I know. Even with the “who are these people” with regards to John and Penny Karagiorgis, and then we find out about the connection of their relatives, that even if they are not friends, they certainly knew who they were! The Wakiles absolutely came onto the show to attack and bring down Teresa, and like the Gorgas thought that they could expose the Giudices, but that they were too smart to get caught with all their own skeletons. When the senior Gorgas got upset at their niece for coming onto the show to attack Teresa, they had an issue with it, but then Kathy attacked them, calling them names, because Mr. Gorga wouldn’t speak to his niece because there was nothing she could say to justify being so underhanded I just hope that Teresa continues to keep up her guard and not trust her so called family and friends, and that everyone’s skeletons continue to be exposed.

        Thank you for this blog and the ones you are working on, because it is all another piece of the puzzle to who these people really are, and what they are capable of. There has been so much deceit–and how any of them condemn the Giudices with their past and their dealings being exposed, is completely disgusting. Please keep up the good work and thank you for shedding light on the truth. .

        • Sylvia smith
          October 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM

          In the heavily edited episode where the guys were all drinking in the basement, After Joe Guidice kidded Gorga about not returning his tools, he said to Rich something like, “if it wasn’t for me, you’d still be pumping gas.” Add to that, Teresa’s claim that her dad did more for Kathy and Rosie than their own dad, it seems that the Wikiles have some indebtedness to the Guidices. Maybe this is the source of the conflict. If, in fact, Mr. Gorga was a major support to his sister’s family, he would be even more unforgiving that Kathy went on the show to hurt Teresa who is obviously his pride and joy. I wonder about Kathy’s brothers. Is there a family divide? Are they also alienated from their cousin Teresa, aunt and uncle, maybe their own sisters. Wish we had a mole in the town. Haha.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      October 24, 2013 at 9:26 PM

      8 12th St was sold by the City of Paterson for $1200. Yes one thousand two hundred. 141 16th was $1000. 757 & 784 E 18th for $1400 each. Paterson may be a bad area but under $2000 for a lot seems awfully cheap.

  35. kitty
    October 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Is this the same Joe Mastropole — Joe Giudice’s former partner?

    Joseph Mastropole and Best Choice Realty Associates, Inc., real estate brokers, formerly of Clifton, N.J. On July 30, 1996, Joseph Mastropole was found guilty of violations of N.J.S.A. 45:15-17(o) (commingling) and N.J.A.C. 11:5-1.12 (failing to maintain trust account records and ledgers and failing to make quarterly reconciliations of his trust accounts.) The Commission’s audit of Best Choice Realty uncovered extensive and continuous churning of escrowed funds, i.e. disbursing funds which were to have been held in trust on transaction C to a party to transaction B, whose funds were previously disbursed to a party to transaction A, etc. In addition, the audit disclosed over $14,000 in shortages in the escrow accounts. Mastropole’s broker’s license was revoked for ten years. After July 1, 1997, he will be eligible to hold a salesperson’s license. However, he must first requalify for same by completing the salesperson pre-licensure education requirement and passing the state license examination. Mr. Mastropole was also fined $20,000, which must be paid before any license is issued.
    http://www.state.nj.us/dobi/division_rec/recdiscp_archive.htm

  36. Spaghetti Kitten
    October 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Is the 12th St. property that made the huge profit pictured?

    Oooops, should have started out with a HUGE THANK YOU to Famey and ALL who contributed to this fascinating reveal. I read and enjoy most all comments when I can, and they’re simply. the. best. 🙂

    Yeah, this isn’t about KIM GRANATELL’S Jello-Pudding Ass…I actually think it’s about exactly the spirit of this blog title: FAME! Cohen and ratings…FameWhorgaKileChacon’s. I think this behind the scenes treachery was discovered by the Elder Gorga (he would have been much younger during the “bubble years” referred to) so his venom isn’t just to-do with the only baby son facing a bad time in real estate with the family home….obviously goes a LOT deeper and devastating for this Father and Grandfather to discover. 😦

    Monica and this POLICE CHIEF need to be investigated thoroughly….for starters!!!

  37. tulip
    October 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Could the Gorgas, Lauritas, Wakiles and Manzos have made a deal with Andy when Melissa and Kathy came on board to feed info to Monica, who gave it to the Feds, using Bravo and the footage to try to “out” them, in exchange, Andy would never bring up any of their business or legal problems, if any were presented? Everyone is wondering why Andy doesn’t bring any of their stuff up, and why Andy was so favorable to Caroline. I wonder if Andy was involved in the quest to turn info over to the feds, and they all know that they have to have each others’ backs because they were all strong players in this? That makes more sense than petty jealosy. After reading Fame’s awesome blog and everyone’s great posts, it makes more sense to me now.

    • Sylvia smith
      October 24, 2013 at 9:03 PM

      I noticed too that it was like they all took the Fifth and refused to give statements of support to the Guidices. I took it at the time that they might be called to testify against the Guidices and were being careful not to contradict themselves. Maybe I’m paranoid or too suspicious but I thought in the very beginning they were all pumping for incriminating information. Not just normal concern or even gossip.

      • mc
        October 24, 2013 at 10:01 PM

        That was the most bizarre scene ever. I still can’t understand how T can forgive Wacko for doing the underhanded things she did on the deck and then crying foul about T being a bad friend. WTF?
        Why would you forgive a “friend” that turned on you so quickly?

        • suedechik79
          October 25, 2013 at 12:15 AM

          Lets be honest, none of them are rocket scientists. Theresa may not have realized what she was trying to do at the time, may not realize everyones role in everything until, hopefully, she gets wind of this blog. Along with her lawyers.

          Like Jacks daughter said, Jack is gossip central. She’d be the type to use like a tool to keep ones hands dirty – hence Caroline popping out of the bushes after it was clear that nothing else was going to come out of the conversation.

          • OldNJLady
            October 25, 2013 at 2:49 AM

            You know that old saying “keep your friends close and your enemies closer” Jac is definitely someone that you do not want as an enemy. Look what she has done to Danielle, Dina and Teresa.

            • suedechik79
              October 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM

              Jac would be someone Id want to ignore. Keeping someone as a false friend just because you are scared at their potential to hurt you, I dunno, theres something so dishonest in that. Manipulating the manipulator. You have to monitor what is said every moment you communicate with her, you always have to be vigilant of what she says to you…I dunno. Its not something Ive ever done in my life. I have so little capacity to keep that lie going.

              • mc
                October 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM

                I agree that it would take too much energy to keep your enemies close. If you have to be that vigilant around someone, clearly that is not someone to be around. I believe that their negative/manipulative energy would rub off onto you somehow. How Exhausting!

                • suedechik79
                  October 27, 2013 at 3:59 AM

                  Its a good philosophy is one is seeking to be a good politician or diplomat though.

        • Sylvia smith
          October 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

          Teresa doesn’t like to argue. She’s not good at it. I think that she either had to say, let’s be friends and pretend it’s true, or keep the fight going. She’s tired. She needed to shut at least one of them down.

        • Jack Hole
          October 25, 2013 at 7:53 PM

          I am wondering if she is accepting her back as a friend to “not have an enemy?” Like she said, keep her enemies closer? I just know that Jac was going crazy for a reason and I think guilt and shame are the name of the game…I think she genuinely felt remorse but is caught in the web of the contract. That and that alone is the only reason I can see Teresa taking her “back.” Whatever the case, I pray that Teresa NE-VER… E-VER shares an intimate detail with Jac again.

      • RahRah
        October 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM

        Maybe cause they are guilty as hell too?

    • corky21
      October 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM

      From my conspiracy of a brain…What if the people who allegedly were going to sue Bravo and the network after the Punta Cana fight, were re-directed by Bravo/Network to go after the guilty party, Theresa, since she got champagne on this couple by accident and a fight ensued. Caroline’s boys went to jail. This is what I read back then. Maybe it’s all false? But if it isn’t, what if Bravo promised the injured party to make sure the Guidices got their Karma, because the network already knew about the financial troubles. They get the rest of the cast on board and tell them if they supply whatever information on the Guidices finances and dealings, their own will never be revealed, and the info will be used to make the Guidices accountable. Everyone wins. The Punta Cana people see Teresa and Joe go down, the rest remain on the show get paid, and also get their own products out there; Bravo stays out of the other’s business, and it makes for great television, and advertisement money for the network, and….JUSTICE is done to the criminals, the Guidices.

      If not, it’s a good story anyway. LOL.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 26, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        Good theory. Isn’t Bravo a party to the Greeks lawsuit? How many melees are they going to get way with setting up before they’re held accountable, by the law, the injured parties, the industry? Even in reality TV there’s got to be seem boundaries.

    • Jack Hole
      October 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM

      Exactly. Nail on the head. You got it!! I do believe this was all fueled by petty jealousy but the actual legal stuff, I think, went way further than they imagined it would and they have been reacting to it ever since. Their original intention may have been to get her to lose her house or something like that to knock her off of her pedestal (like her own brother continued to say, “Teresa needs to fall…”)…just s thought that could be totally wrong of course!!

      • suedechik79
        October 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM

        Jeez, I forgot he said that so much. Ooh. Whoops!

  38. tulip
    October 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Faux Reality has a new blog up about Melissa and Joe’s rental. There is a lot more to this, also as to why they moved and some are speculating that they did a short sale and that is why there isn’t any paperwork filed? Someone posted that if it’s a short sale, paperwork wise it will still look like the house is still owned by Joe and Melissa when in reality the bank agreed to sell it for a lower price.

    This seems shady and I am sure ties in with all of this other shady stuff. Could the Gorgas be trying to cover their shady dealings, and getting away from the mcmansion, or could there be another shady deal going on with the mcmansion and this is why there is nothing recorded on the sale yet?

    And, I noticed I used “shady” way too many times in my post! 🙂

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:00 PM

      I did a blog about their rental home on September 6, 2013, for those who are interested:

      Joe and Melissa Gorga Move Into Rental Home After Selling Their Mansion
      https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/joe-and-melissa-gorga-sell-their-mansion-and-move-into-rental-home/

    • Rebecca
      October 26, 2013 at 2:03 AM

      Trulia seems to imply that the home “sale” or value at deed is about $1.3 million.

      • October 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

        The bottom line on short sales is the owners are having financial problems. This sounds like the Gorgas to me. No way Joey is making enough money to live in a house that expensive and drive expensive cars. I’m sure the car in a loner.

        • October 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM

          sorry about my spelling error loaner.

  39. qb
    October 24, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    I see why Joe Gorga said he was scared about them going to jail at the reunion. He will be carrying a lot of guilt around because of something petty and stupid such as a tv show.

    • mc
      October 24, 2013 at 10:09 PM

      This won’t be received right– but I just don’t think that Joey is the least bit scared about them going to jail. To me it was about a redeeming moment for the the both of them. Awful sounding, yes, but it’s just how I feel. With all that I have read today, it really appears that the wakiles/gorgas/lauritas were in on some sort of deal to expose the guidices. Like a poster said above, there are no coincidences here.

      • suedechik79
        October 25, 2013 at 12:17 AM

        Agreed. Between the drugs, his wife, and their entire life based on lies, I think Joe Gorga is past the point of remorsefulness.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        I agree with you. If he had any moral compass, any feeling at all for his sister, mother and father, nieces, he would have called a halt to this long ago. He doesn’t have a conscience. I think Teresa always realized this but loved him anyway and guided him as best she could.

    • October 25, 2013 at 8:55 AM

      Guilt is an emotion that Joe Gorga does not possess.

      • October 25, 2013 at 4:27 PM

        It requires far too much thought.

  40. tulip
    October 24, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Someone over on another blog posted that they drove by the Exxon station when Melissa was signing her book and she had two uniformed police officers with her as body guards. Could Ritchie’s cousin, the police chief be involved in getting these guys for her?

    • RedVelvetCake
      October 24, 2013 at 10:09 PM

      The police where there for crowd control,the event organizers thought TSIL and TB would attract a big crowd.

      • tulip
        October 25, 2013 at 7:33 AM

        Thanks for the info Red! I have to laugh, though that they thought TSIL would attract a big crowd! LOL!

      • Sylvia smith
        October 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        Didn’t I read here that Richie’s cousin is Chief of Police? That could explain it. I mean, seriously folks, a police detail for a nobody like Melissa?

    • GPM
      October 24, 2013 at 10:13 PM

      What?!? Uniformed police officers as body guards?!?

      I don’t know about NJ but in our community if policemen moonlight as body guards, they can’t wear their uniforms — if they’re wearing their uniforms, they’re on the clock!

      • October 24, 2013 at 10:58 PM

        Same in AZ GPM. The off duty jobs are very lucrative, but they can’t wear their uniforms. I know this is as I come from a family of cops.

        I didn’t see pictures with cops there, but did see pics with cop cars there.

        I dunno — something is fishy.

        • christina
          October 25, 2013 at 9:34 AM

          I work for a pd in NJ, my guys have to wear the uniform on all road job or outside detail.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 24, 2013 at 11:02 PM

        Used to be some cops would put black tape over their badge if they were moonlighting. Now many towns require a police presence at and “event” for traffic and crowd control – and they charge the event organizer for it. Now cops can get in real trouble if they moonlight in uniform – especially in other towns.

    • October 25, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      Well, you know she didn’t pay for them. Because they didn’t receive a twitter shout out.

  41. LifeIsGood
    October 24, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    I hope the transactions involved with the Wakiles new home construction are carefully scrutinized. Katfish must have sold a lot of $80 cannoli kits to afford to build a new house.

    • suedechik79
      October 25, 2013 at 12:20 AM

      A new house while one kid is at college and another one is soon to go to college? Hmmm

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM

        Maybe “Michelangelo” Gorga is going to build it for them out of crumbling marble veneer, particle board and spray hair. That would cost a lot less than a real house.

        • corky21
          October 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM

          LMAO. Saddle you are so witty. Love your comments. 🙂

    • October 25, 2013 at 9:11 AM

      Nobody is buying that shit. I am sorry, I know hoarders who watch QVC all day will buy anything, but her connoli kit is the dumbest idea on the planet. Not to mentionn that a connoli would fit into her nostril quite easily. I have never seen anybody with bulgier eyes and bigger nostrils than her. She can have all the plastic surgery she wants she is butt ugly. And inside of that hideous exterior is a plotting, envious, back-stabbing witch. They have all been riding her coattails and setting her up this whole time. There is no denying that her brother and cousin have been friends with Monica Chacon for ages. Such treachery and deceit.
      Wow. And we thought they were stupid. Teresa always sees the best in people. Time to see the truth. Your brother cannot be redeemed. Ever. When he stabs you in the heart, he stabs your parents, too. And he knows it and continues to do it. They don’t care about you or your girls. You must face this. Not only does he not love you, he wants to destroy you. You can console yourself with the fact that he is not right in the head and then he married an evil, lying viper.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM

        The cannoli “kit” really is the stupidest idea. Everything is already done – you are just squirting the shit in the bag into a stale, weeks old shell. It’s about as authentic as those gross Wilton chocolate “melts” that you heat up and put in molds and claim to be a “chocolatier”. You either make cannoli cream from scratch which is *very* easy and fry up some shells. Or just do what 99% of folks do – go to your local Italian bakery and but them fresh for a hell of a lot less.

        • October 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM

          Exactly. We live in an age where people microwave as much as possible because we’re all in a rush. If we want fresh, we buy it, we don’t try to approximate it.

          • corky21
            October 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM

            Agreed. If I love to cook, I can make them myself. I don’t, so I have no qualms about getting them at my Italian pastry shoppe. Now, Teresa’s cookbooks, I was curious about the Caro stuff, so I got two books, what she wrote was like nothing. However, I hate to cook, but I’ve made a few of Tre’s shorter recipes, and I was happy with the results.

            • October 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM

              I hear so many good things about her cookbooks that I may just buy one. This would violate my “No buying anything that someone on tv is hawking” rule but I’m considering it.

          • suedechik79
            October 27, 2013 at 3:56 AM

            I haven’t owned a microwave for 5 or 6 years now. I don’t ever miss it, not even for a second.

            • October 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM

              You are healthier and less radioactive than the rest of us lazy schlubs. 🙂

        • October 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

          exactly.

        • Daisymay
          October 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM

          Or buy the kits from Costco for practically nothing…

  42. Sylvia smith
    October 24, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Not to get off subject but I think another investigation is necessary. Not that you don’t already have enough on your plate! Caroline Manzo proudly bragged that her husbands’s best friend is Bernie Kerik, convicted tax fraud, bribe receiver, stalker and 9/11 exploiter and convicted for wire fraud, and conspiracy. She’s gigled and mentioned his name several times. strange for sene that wants to distance themselves from the organized crime rumors. One of the charges was for receiving a payoff from a construction company. Of course he was also excused of using an apartment in Manhattan, donated for use by 9/11 survivors for trysts with his mistresses, me of who, was Judity Regan who eventually had to get a restraining order against him. Kerik was of course well connected in the Bush Administration and considered for Director of Himeland Security. Wonder if he is, in any way a part of this puzzle? Anyone with any sense, and Caroline has none, would distance themselves from this criminal. At least decent people, that haven’t made a fortune through their organized crime connections. Any thoughts.
    http://www.doingtimewithbernie.com/?zx=8131fb8fb6a1e889

    • Sylvia smith
      October 24, 2013 at 7:43 PM

      Sorry for the combination of typos and aggressive autocorrect!

    • suedechik79
      October 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

      The one thing Caroline never ever wants to talk about are their supposed mob ties. She shuts Andy down super sternly and refuses to discuss it. She attempts to ridicule/insult any audience member that would wonder about it. Last reunion she tried to play on our heartstrings to not get us to wonder anymore. To me, that indicates….keep wondering, you are on the right track.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM

        Who’s gonna feel sorry that her fat ass mafia father in law was stuffed in a trunk. After claiming he was such a wonderful guy for so long, Al comes out and says he was abused by his father! Nuts. They’re nuts.

        • corky21
          October 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM

          And the way they found him was the message, keep you mouth shut, so Caro is just following the rules.

          • Sylvia smith
            October 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM

            Yet another clue. We all watch the true crime shows. Have you ever heard a relative say they DON’T WANT TO KNOW what happened to their loved one? Of course not.

      • corky21
        October 25, 2013 at 6:35 PM

        Mob families don’t talk about themselves on TV or anywhere if they can help it. That alone is proof!

        • October 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM

          Well, there’s Mob Wives but I think they get away with it because everyone already knows their stories. I know Jen and Renee’s dad wouldn’t talk to them for a while because of the show but they don’t reveal anything that’s not a matter of public record.

        • Daisymay
          October 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM

          I’m thinking that the real reason Caroline is off the show is that it was getting entirely too hot for her comfort… The cheating thing with al, the mob ties that are getting progressively more obvious and the guidices’ problems are bringing WAY too much attention to her and her family and she is running away from the over exposure that may do them all in. Does this make sense?

          • October 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM

            If she has more control on her own spinoff, maybe?

    • corky21
      October 25, 2013 at 6:32 PM

      Seems plausible to me. I agree!

  43. October 24, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    My head is spinning. I have a feeling there is so much more about Joe Gorga yet to come out. He is the common thread between all of these characters. Mr. Gorga’s deep shame over his son is understandable. There is nothing he could say that would remotely justify his part in destroying the lives of a family that loves him in spite of himself.

    • October 24, 2013 at 8:22 PM

      He’s scum! Do you remember at the reunion where Teresa said something like I only want friends, I don’t want enemies. She looked at her brother and said you know what I mean right? Was that a veiled indication to back the F off, continue to F with me I’ll take you down?

      • October 24, 2013 at 11:23 PM

        Maybe. There was a definite tone that conveyed, “Are you picking up what I’m putting down?”. She made sure he acknowledged her statement too.

    • mc
      October 24, 2013 at 10:12 PM

      kay- your last sentence was beautifully put.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      October 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM

      There must be more to it than Joe and Melissa wanting to be on RHONJ.
      What if, Teresa’s parents have made out a Will, and made Teresa and Joe Giudice’ Power Of Attorney over the estate. Anyway, maybe if Joe Gorga figures a way to get rid of Joe Giudice’ and convinces the law that Teresa is a crook, legally, Joe Gorga can take over the parents estate, claiming that Teresa scammed her parents and left him out of the Will. Joe Gorga, being the only other child, will become sole custodian of the entire estate. He doesn’t even have to share with Teresa. Richard and Kathy will also fight for the estate as witnesses on behalf of Joe Gorga. There is a reason so many are pissed off but there must be something much more than just wanting to be on a reality television show.

      Also,
      I still feel that Melissa and Penny made up the, “Melissa cheating and blowing a guy in a parking lot” story for the sole purpose of making it appear that Teresa was a calculating, manipulative person. Why? Well, who would possibly believe that Melissa would spread a story like that about herself. Who will believe that Teresa is a likely candidate for spreading the story? A Judge. I think they are setting Teresa up now because they know their father is Ill. Then it won’t take long before the mother falls ill. Joe and Melissa are pissed off because Joe Giudice’ is part of the Gorga parents estate. Joe Gorga Wants To Take It All For Himself.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        October 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

        See, when Joe Gorga brings up Teresa’s relationship with the parents, He always wants to make it appear the Teresa is “Poisoning TheIr Minds With Lies!” Joe Gorga is always throwing it out there that Teresa and Joe Giudice are brainwashing the Gorga Parents Mind.

        • Rosalie Marie,
          October 25, 2013 at 8:31 PM

          I think the Gorga parents have cut Joe Gorga Off and Joe Gorga is pissed off and he needs to get Teresa and Joe Giudice’ out of the way.
          See, Joe Gorga wants everyone to believe that the Gorga parents are so broke, that “He” had to buy them a house.
          We All Know That To Be A Lie.
          The Gorga parents have more than Joe Gorga wants people to believe because he’s after everything they leave behind when they depart from this earth and Teresa gets everything.
          This also explains why Melissa really wants to take Teresa down. Whatever her husband brings home, she gets to spend.
          Melissa and Joe are after the Gorga parents estate.

          • October 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM

            The only criminals who don’t inherit are murderers. Going to prison doesn’t disqualify you.

          • black enga
            October 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM

            Wow, Rosalie this makes perfect sense. That’s why I love this site, so many perspectives and observations make it so unique and intriguing!

      • Sylvia smith
        October 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM

        This is all redacted from Penny’s website so I’m going from memory. She said her attack on Teresa was a combination of her own lies and Bravo’s editing. Why did she lie? She said she never had anything against Teresa, just Melissa for trying to ruin her business. But Caroline and Jacqueline called her from Arizona and told her Teresa was saying outrageous things about her, making accusations etc., She vowed to get back and she plays dirty. She said in her blog she regretted it. Simple.

  44. October 24, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Wow, Fame (& Kate)…great work.

    My head is spinning as well!

  45. Sylvia smith
    October 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    I can’t stay away from this site. It puts all the facts to my intuition about the underhanded evil intentions of Teresa’s relatives and their cohorts.

    • suedechik79
      October 25, 2013 at 1:13 AM

      Its much worse than I thought, now. Very upsetting about the money laundering and the so called authority figures involved with the cast…the legal problems that only Theresa and Joe seem to face aren’t so coincidental after all.

  46. Grand-Beth
    October 24, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Hell, with all this maybe AndyAss has something going on in his background the way he would not dare bring up the Lauritas problems or ask anywhere near the questions he asked the Guidices’, almost reminds me of WacoJac and Carohag with creeping Chris in the background on the deck scene (I thought it was hours to film) and like he or Blavo is scared of the Manzos and kisses their ass with a spin-off and their words of wisdom. (remember the Tiny story and these friends of his-Kerik and Al cheating stories?)……… He or Blavo must be involved somehow, someway in something. It sure makes you wonder how big and how many people this spreads out to. It is mind blowing the length you would go to either take out a family or a big sort of cover-up…..What was the ” message/story”) we, the viewers were suppose to take away the last 3 years? …….What was the real reason?….. Maybe, I just don`t get it.

    • mc
      October 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

      I just don’t get how family could be so evil. Within the last three years, has there been anything justifiable for the character assassination of T? I keep asking what has she done? Am I alone? Surely something would have come up right?

      • suedechik79
        October 25, 2013 at 1:10 AM

        She didn’t do anything that a normal person wouldn’t do. The way its aired, the constant suggestion that shes “guilty” is supposed to draw the viewer in and make her BE guilty in the viewers eyes. Appearance is of utmost importance, for most people will watch a show and fill in the blanks that don’t make sense with something that makes sense. “Everyones mad at Theresa, must be a reason.” Its much easier to think that than think the entire cast is using Theresa as a scapegoat to keep the spotlight off of their own financial problems.

        • corky21
          October 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM

          Exactly. It’s like the crowd mentality thing. If a few people start up something, then get another, and another, before you know it a whole crowd is doing it. Hitler is a prime example of this. There were others like him back then, but he was the one that swayed his people. Then, if you didn’t go along, you had the threat of death over you.

          Same as a lie, if you tell it often enough, and nothing or no one convinces you it’s a lie, proves it without reasonable doubt, you believe the lie.

          Most people follow the crowd that is developing. In this case, the crowd of HWs..

          We, here, are not swayed, but sadly, many still believe that Teresa is a sinister, evil master, creating damage and turmoil and ruining her brother and SIL, thereby, ruining her own family.

          How? Because Bravo has it’s character’s continuously saying so!

          • suedechik79
            October 27, 2013 at 3:53 AM

            Say a lie, make it big, keep saying it

    • October 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM

      Joe and Teresa must have agreed to film their legal issues since their bankruptcy was widely covered by the tabloids and featured on some covers – they even met with their attorney on camera. There is no way they were made to do this – I assume they were paid bonuses for agreeing to film scenes about it. However, Teresa explicitly asked her friends and family not to talk about it, but they ignored her and even arranged scenes around it with outsiders like the Hizas (they defended their actions by saving it was open season since the Giudices themselves talked about it to tabloids, etc.). The Lauritas’ legal issues never made the tabloids and barely were covered by the media in general. I’m sure they refused to film anything related to their alleged embezzlement of funds from their company before creditors forced it into bankruptcy.

      • Sackem
        October 25, 2013 at 8:22 AM

        I felt like she had no choice but to try and make sense of it for viewers after it was such a big deal at the reunion.

      • dch60
        October 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM

        I don’t think Teresa played any part in the tabloids originally picking up the story about her bankruptcy. She probably agree to interview for some so she could get her side of the story across. I remember she even went on The View. She basically explained exactly what you discovered… that most of the money in the bankruptcy was real estate and very little was credit card debt. Unfortunately, she didn’t have much credibility obviously because that part never seemed to catch on. I commented on it on several blogs but I don’t get to the comment sections much for a first time so I very rarely get back to see responses to my posts, if there are any.

        I don’t think the women have a choice as to what is filmed. If it’s part of their life and Bravo wants to use it, they will. Unfortunately for Teresa, it seems as if she’s the tortured child and all of the others are Andy’s pets. I really don’t know the reason and I think it goes much deeper than it being because Juicy used the “f” word. He didn’t even use the “f” word. He called the dancer or the dancing “gay.” Many have said much worse than that… look at Alexis from OC saying she didn’t believe gays should be able to get married (although I don’t think Andy likes her very much either) or even comments by Richie the sleaziest of them all.

        I do believe Teresa relied on the women to not bring up the legal problems, however, they already had it out for her. They were given a golden opportunity to “bring her down.” Can you imagine how horrible that must have been for Teresa? The extent of betrayal?!?!? It’s mind blowing. How anyone can be a “fan” of any of the others after what they’ve done is beyond me… especially her family. I think some viewers hate Teresa that much that they actually like to see her suffer at the hands of her family and former friends. Sick… just sick IMO. If you don’t like Teresa, fine, but how can anyone possibly condone family doing what they’ve done to Teresa? HOW!!!!???? UGH!

        Fame… when I first discovered this site, I immediately fell head over heels in love with you!!! At that time, many still didn’t like Teresa and I had no where to go to get my frustrations out! Luckily, the tides have turned quite a bit. I remember the few sites I went to mostly everyone hated Teresa… now those same sites are pro-Teresa for the most part. I believe you helped in that turn around. Many people don’t like to see anyone bullied, especially by those who are such incredible hypocrites and don’t have clean hands themselves. That’s where you came in by exposing TSIL Marco for who she truly is… then the others too. They dug their own graves, however, by being the evils beings that they are. They have NO ONE to blame by themselves.

        I’ll try to find that contract for the housewives. It was quite some time ago and I don’t even remember which site posted it. For some reason I think OC was on at the time it showed up but I can’t be certain. It was quite fascinating. Hopefully, whoever posted it still has it up in archives.

    • black enga
      October 24, 2013 at 10:44 PM

      There is a lot of corruption going on in New york and New Jersey. A lot of seedy underhanded dealings, they all are probably involved at some point from the bottom to the top.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/nyregion/24jersey.html?pagewanted=all&_r=3&

  47. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Here’s how one of the Hiza/Gorga properties was sold:

    Property: 141 E HOLSMAN ST PATERSON, NJ

    CITY OF PATERSON
    155 MARKET ST
    PATERSON NJ 00000

    On 5/12/04 Sold to

    HIZA ROBERT & GORGA GIUSEPPE
    516 LAFAYETTE AVE
    HAWTHORNE NJ 00000

    Assessed value 600.00

    HIZA ROBERT
    516 LAFAYETTE AVE
    HAWTHORNE NJ 00000

    On 1/6/06 Sold to

    141 EAST HOLSON ST LLC
    0 90 WHITEHALL ST
    FAIR LAWN NJ 00000

    Asssessed value 600.00

    141 EAST HOLSOM ST LLC
    0 90 WHITEWALL ST
    FAIR LAWN NJ 00000

    On 5/18/07 Sold to

    GORGA CHRISTOPHER & RAYNA H/W
    0 90 WHITEWALL ST
    FAIR LAWN NJ 00000

    Assessed value 83000.00

    • GPM
      October 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM

      Interesting, Saddle!

      Have you seen the article (and picture) of the property in its current state at http://thealternativepress.com/towns/paterson/articles/eight-northside-properties-added-to-patersons-fl ?

      This is my GUESS as to what happened in the transactions above:

      The floodplain property purchased by Hiza/Gorga was a vacant lot ($600 assessed value; reference in article to “standing amid vacant lots”)

      Ownership of the lot was transferred approximately 18 months later to an LLC, possibly owned by Gorga (i.e., Hiza was the only one who recorded a sale).

      Over the next approximately 18 months or so the LLC built a house on the lot (see picture in article)

      The LLC then sold the house to Christopher and Rayna Gorga (Gorga?!? Is Christopher Gorga a relative of Teresa and TB?)

      Fast-forwarding to 2013, the City wants to use HUD funds to buy the improved property back. The timelines on this all look reasonable and logical to me and it seems unlikely that anyone could have anticipated in 2007 that six years later the city would want to buy the property back, although the fact that it was in a flood plain might have suggested it. .

      The questions I have are:

      (1) Does TB own the LLC?

      (2) Is Christopher Gorga a relative of Teresa and TB?)

      (3) It appears no one built on any of the other vacant lots in the area. Why did TB build a house on a flood plain when no one else did?

      (4) Was the sales price to Christopher Gorga inflated? Zillow shows what appears to be a similar house in the neighborhood for $38,000. The Gorga house was sold in 2007 for $83,000 so, since that was the height of the housing bubble, the price could have been reasonable. How much does the city intend to pay for the house?

      (5) Does Christopher Gorga still own the house today or has it been transferred to someone else who will be selling it to the city?

      (6) How did the house come to be among the handful that the city will be buying back? Are there other Gorga-Hiza-Wakile-Atie properties on that list?

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        In response to

        (5) The property is still owned by Christopher Gorga – but he lives in North Haledon. The property is currently assessed at $340,000 by the city. Who knows what goes on in the assessors office. It was valued at $600. Then a house is built on it and “valued” at $415,000 – later lowered to the 340.
        (3) Why build in a flood plain? How about this scenario. You look at the flood plain maps and buy up bits of land – with some insider knowledge that there will be a buyout in the future. Throw up a cheaply built house and have a “friend” in the assessors office give it a high value. The city steps up to “buy out” the property at a 75% of “assessed value” and all of a sudden your $600 piece of land with a cheap ass house (lets say it cost $100,000 to throw it up) nets you $155,000
        1) Good question about the LLC. Funny how it was called “141 EAST HOLSON ST LLC”. Why set up an LLC for a single property for such a small (relatively speaking) transaction unless you are trying to obscure the audit trail.
        (4) If Hiza sold the house directly to Christopher Gorga then he would have gains on the proceeds. If Hiza “sells” to the LLC for the same as he paid there are no gains. Then the LLC sells to Gorga and takes the hit on gains. Since it’s and LLC the profits can be made to magically disappear with all sorts of “expenses”. I’ve known LLCs and Subchapter S companies that are blindingly profitable but reports losses to the IRS with “creative” bookkeeping.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM

          Also meant to say – here in Jersey we know pretty much where the state will eventually buy out owners. Parts of Wayne, Paterson, Pompton Lakes have homes that flood every 5 years or so. Its a glacial process but the State and insurance companies are fed up with the flood and rebuild cycle. The buyouts are happening but very slowly. Trick is to build on the land before the state officially steps up. 141 Holson is really suspect in my mind…

          • October 25, 2013 at 3:47 PM

            Saddle – we need to join research forces. Let Fame know I give her permission to connect you to my email, which she has. That way I can share with you what I have and get your thoughts.

            • October 25, 2013 at 7:44 PM

              It’s like watching a team of superheroes form. You guys are going to be the “Research Brigade” in my mind.

              • Daisymay
                October 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM

                I LOVE you guys…keep it coming! Reminds me of the Alexander McCall Smith book series of the “#1 Ladies Detective Agency”!!!

                • October 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

                  So weird. I’ve read most of that series and the Isabel Dalhousie one. Just yesterday, I got Corduroy Mansions and The Unbearable Lightness of Scones in the mail. Started the latter last night.

                  Everyone on here seems to read and watch the same things besides RHONJ of course.

        • Rebecca
          October 26, 2013 at 2:18 AM

          Wait- no, you can’t go by tax assessment as sales property value. It’s basically a reversed tax computation. They figure out how much they need from the residents and value the house from there. In Arizona, residential property is taxed at 10% of the assessed value. If they need $1000 to pay for fire, police, roads, schools, etc., your assessed value is $10,000.

        • Sylvia smith
          October 26, 2013 at 2:53 PM

          Who’s Christopher Gorga?

  48. black enga
    October 24, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Wow, this is all starting to come to a head, the reality of the reality show.

    • black enga
      October 24, 2013 at 10:36 PM

      sorry double post.

  49. js
    October 25, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    I remember watching that dinner scene with the Gorgas/Wakiles and an accountant all speaking about the Guidice money problems & the mocking tone and I was so disturbed. They were new to the show and had the nerve to speak about someone elses money problems? Their own sister/cousin. It was unbelievable. Andy never commented on why they did that.He always just focused on trying to get Teresa to confess. Andy/Gorgas/Wakiles should all be embarrassed by their obnoxious behavior and their apparent need to expose them to public humiliation…and the FEDS.

    • suedechik79
      October 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

      Since we know that the Manzos, the Lauritas, the Gorgas, and the Wakiles all flirt and invest in each others businesses, it can be assumed that they all approached Bravo with this Giudice financial plotline from right after Danielle got dropped as the main villain (or perhaps before, prompting the dropping). By multiple accounts, Andy does not like Theresa and her husband said the “f” word which Andy got so offended by…Im sure he jumped at the chance to tear them apart.

      • Sylvia smith
        October 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

        Somewhere, maybe this site, a copy of the Bravo Contract was posted. In essence, it said we can do whatever we want and if you don’t agree you can’t be on the show. It also said Bravo can dictate what they talk about, concerning the show. It seemed incredible to me that anyone would ever sign such a document. I don’t believe the Guidices had any control over Bravo exposing and exploiting their personal legal problems. I remember just recently there was so much written about Caroline, who Bravo loves, fighting with them about making Al’s affair a subject on the show. It was reported that she was begging because she had no legal way to prevent them from exploiting any part of her life. I think it’s really simple. They like some of the cast and not others. We know they all have legal problems. What’s aired, or favorably edited is based on Andy or a producers petty decisions.

        • October 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM
          • Kay
            October 25, 2013 at 5:55 PM

            http://www.theglobaltownhall.com/jacqueline_laurita

            Gabrielle Reilly: What tips can you give on being filmed?

            2. As much as you love them as people, NEVER trust your producers! They have a job to do and they are really not there to be your friends, even if they grow to like you.

          • suedechik79
            October 26, 2013 at 3:27 PM

            I made that mistake too. Read it as everyone.

          • dch60
            October 26, 2013 at 6:25 PM

            There was also one a while back for the housewives themselves. For the life of me I don’t remember the blogger or web site, dang it. But if you think the one for the “friends” was bad… you should have seen this one. It was quite terrifying and sounded like bloody he!! to me. It really goes to show just how much some people are willing to sacrifice to have 15 minutes of fame.

  50. Grand-Beth
    October 25, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Has anyone heard any updates on the Signature App/ Laurita case?……or if Waco paid her taxes she owed??

    • Sackem
      October 25, 2013 at 8:19 AM

      That’s what I was wondering!

  51. suedechik79
    October 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Looks like Dina has another reason to not talk to Caroline and Chris, if this wasn’t already the reason.

  52. js
    October 25, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    Also FAME & Faux should send the last few articles to the attorneys for Teresa and Joe Guidice . …it would help them in their review /defense of their cases. Maybe it would finally help Teresa to stay away from her brother and SIL because she doesn’t seem to get how evil they truly are. Her attorney can explain it to her. Their attorneys need all this information! !!

    • October 25, 2013 at 9:19 AM

      Frankly, the damage is done. Mission accomplished, Joey Gorga. This man will go down in infamy as the worst brother in the world.

  53. realrealityrehab
    October 25, 2013 at 2:29 AM

    I know one thing for sure, if they (Jac, Mel/Jo, Fishy/Richie) did have something to do with building a case against T and Juicy, and it sounds like they actually have, then there’s a VERY warm vacation to Helltown in their futures. Not because it’s a slimeball thing to do to a friend or loved one, which of course it most certainly is, but because they’ve ALL been on a three year campaign to ruin T’s reputation by convincing the world that she’s a jealous rumor monger. They’ve bitched and moaned about her being behind cheating allegations, stripper-gate, sprinkle cookie prejudice and paper cuts. Basically they’ve tarnished her character so badly that half the country actually wants her to go to jail, all the while they’re desecrating not only her, but her children? There literally isn’t a word to describe how despicable these cretins are, if this is true. The only thing I can hope for if they’ve done this, is that THEY end up the bigger fish (pun intended) for the Feds. The biggest irony here is that while they have all been so green with envy over this stupid reality show, THEY ended up being the reason the show has tanked. If their hands are dirty, perhaps the greatest irony is yet to come!

    • RahRah
      October 25, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      I am with you but even the Bible says when you dig a whole for someone else, dig one for yourself. I, like you believe they set out to destroy Teresa and I imagined the allegations are tantamount to minor issues, at least I pray, that have been blown up to look even worse.

      Ex. when we were saving for our wedding, we saved cash, when we saved for our home’s downpayment we saved a lot of cash, we wanted to furnish our home we saved somemore cash. It was that we couldn’t use the interest it would generate but we wanted our furnish to be our furniture and we paid in cash for the others as we went alone.

      I would never make an excuse for a criminal or bad behavior, I just see the Guidice’s as I see myself, working to support my family. If they were truly the criminals their family has portrayed them to be I feel like Bravo would not have cast them, and I believe Danielle even told them about the book during an interview because that was a planned storyline.

      But have you noticed the more they tear T down the more famous she becomes with her products and associates, she had ther Apprentice appearance.

    • suedechik79
      October 25, 2013 at 3:23 PM

      Totally agree with the last two sentences. It is very ironic. They all wanted a piece of the pie (and to take down a seemingly very decent family), and that ends up sapping the very life out of the pie.

  54. black enga
    October 25, 2013 at 3:16 AM

    As always, thanks Fame, hats off to you for excellent reporting and incisive information to unearth the truth no matter how deep its buried. It is all going to come out no matter how they fight or deny it.

    And I for one am glad to have a front row seat with popcorn handy.

  55. Sackem
    October 25, 2013 at 8:18 AM

    Great article!!!!!

  56. Lisa
    October 25, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    So far we have learned that it is unforgiveable for Teresa to be friends with Kim D. But Teress’s disgusting family can be friends with assholes like this? Do not forget that all Kim did was help expose what a whore Melissa is. Remember: Joe said himself “i want to know who told you tbis? How did you know this?”

    Oh, has anyone noticed that Dina Manzo had a giveaway for her charity? Guess what the giveaway was? Fricking canoli’s.

    I dont even think they were able to give Kathy’s canoli’s away.

    • October 25, 2013 at 3:33 PM

      She gave away Tre’s books and bracelets too.

  57. Sackem
    October 25, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    Is Andy Cohen quoted as saying this is the only franchise where people have asked about police involvement or something along those lines.

    • Miami53
      October 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM

      I believe he also said “do you get audited”……

      • tulip
        October 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

        I wonder if these questions that were asked of Andy regarding weather they would get audited, etc. could have come from the Gorgas, Manzos, Wakiles & Lauritas in their possible negotiations with Andy to gather info for the Feds? I can picture them asking Andy “if we get info about Teresa for the Feds, will we be audited or investigated in any way?”

        • Miami53
          October 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM

          I believe it was asked from the original 5 housewives…

  58. October 25, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    My question to everyone is why is anyone surprised that Meho is exposed as a liar…again? I think every word that comes out of her mouth is a lie. She just sucks as life.

    • October 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      She is evil incarnate.

  59. October 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Former waiter filed a federal lawsuit against Manzos and viola the Brownstone catches on fire on the same night that members of the GOP Strong ticket of insurgent Republicans had planned to have their election-night party.

    “The opulent banquet facility had to be evacuated Tuesdays evening when a fire started in its kitchen ductwork, said Paterson Fire Chief Bruce Vander Voort. The fire was extinguished within 20 minutes and after the health officials check the building, the events at the catering hall were allowed to continue, Vander Voort said. No one was hurt, officials said. One of the events was a school sports diner, fire officials said. The Brownstone also was hosting primary night political parties, according to News 12.

    Just last week, the Brownstone was the target of a lawsuit filed by a former waiter who said the catering hall didn’t pay him for 850 hours of overtime. The waiter, Sandy Fernandez of Paterson, filed a federal lawsuit against the Brownstone, its president Albert Manzo and vice president Thomas Manzo alleging that they didn’t pay him for the overtime he accumulated over five years, a northjersey.com story said.”
    http://terryaley.com/?p=3932

    “But the fire did ruin plans for some politicians. Members of the GOP Strong ticket of insurgent Republicans had planned to have their election-night party at The Brownstone, but the fire forced them to relocate to The Barnyard in Totowa, said Paul Duggan, the ticket’s spokesman. – See more at: http://www.northjersey.com/news/Kitchen_fire_forces_temporary_evacuation_of_The_Brownstone_in_Paterson.html#sthash.hSiwf18Q.dpuf

    http://dockets.justia.com/docket/new-jersey/njdce/2:2011cv03129/260010/

  60. black enga
    October 25, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Nice one Kays, did you check out Al’s lawyer and who he has worked for in the past, very interesting.

    http://www.lowenstein.com/kkaspar/

  61. black enga
    October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Oh and check out what one of the companies he represented AETREX is doing this month.

  62. RahRah
    October 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    too, well know we know what a scumbag and sleazeball this attorney is but what has Teresa personally done to her. This lawyer is going to have to lawyer up because the article describes MONEY LAUNDERING people, ask a criminal how money laundering takes place. You pay a $1,000.00 for something that cost $1 and they you divvy up the profits. Sounds like NJ will have to build a new jail to me.

  63. tulip
    October 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Someone posted awhile back the delinquent taxes that Monica Chacon owes. It was pulled from public records. It was a commenter on one of the housewives blogs. I wish I could find it. I can’t remember if it was on this site, or on one of the others. Does anyone else remember seeing it?
    If she doesn’t pay her taxes, it makes me believe that she could possibly be crooked enough to be involved in other stuff. Allegedly!

  64. October 25, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Fame,
    Thank You! I am an avid reader and don’t post often but I am here everyday. This is unreal. What cockroaches they all are. I also want to say hey to Faux also for all you do as well.

  65. October 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Fame, thank-you sooooo much for deleting my post for me. I worried all the way back to Miami. I really need to learn how to use this stupid computer before I try to copy and paste. I love you sooo much. *.* But the article I was trying to post (and will try again) just proves that “somethin’ goin’ on ’round here. Again, thank-you for everything.

  66. Kay
    October 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Fame,

    I had to share this with you and everyone….this is soooo funny. I think Melissa can start poopin at home with this…lol.

  67. October 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    If Melissa sold a product like this it would be more successful than her book or her music.

  68. October 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Something is rotten in Denmark.

    • October 25, 2013 at 7:48 PM

      Denmark being New Jersey. Some of the state is really beautiful but no offense to Saddle and others, I couldn’t see myself living there. Most of the people I know who live in NJ work here in NY anyway.

      • suedechik79
        October 27, 2013 at 3:51 AM

        The ones that live south of Trenton mostly do not work in NY. Bit of a drive. 🙂

        • October 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM

          I suck at Jersey geography but I’m sure you’re right. I just know all of them take the bus to Port Authority.

    • Detroitrockcity
      October 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM

      Yep, I smell it from here!! ; /

  69. October 25, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    I have a feeling that they are all involved. Every single last one of the men including Juicy, his partner, Lil Joe,big Al,Chris,the sheriff guy, Monica ‘s hubby. All of them were in on buying these foreclosures then selling and splitting profits. The problem is Juicy was the only one with the real talent to build or redo so he ended up keeping the money and said eff them, what did any of them do. Then T gets on the show and makes more money that she doesn’t share,( not that she should have too) now their pissed about that too. They’re all covering up their own shady dealing and putting it all on the Guidice’s.It’s not that they hate Tre so much, it’s that their scared shit of Juicy so they had the wives and lil crybaby man target Teresa knowing she wont rat anyone out or argue. It’s all a scam but, the truth always comes out. I was always told what you do in the dark will come to light. Just my 2 cents whether I’m way off or not… Lol

    • Sackem
      October 25, 2013 at 11:32 PM

      I agree – Juicy showed them the ropes remember? I wonder if Joey did more than steal tools?

      • Sharon
        October 26, 2013 at 4:08 AM

        I wouldn’t doubt he has a long arrest record with that temper and IQ.

  70. October 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Richie finally tweeted back:

    FauxRealityEnt@FauxRealityE 24 Oct
    FameWhorga reveals the shady Paterson dealings involving Mayor Jose Torres @RichardWakile & @JoeGorga #FBIProbe http://wp.me/p2dtkN-6m8
    2:16 PM – 24 Oct 13

    Richard Wakile‏@richardwakile1h
    @FauxRealityE If I ever lose any documents I can always come to you for a copy! Do you charge for your services? Thanks for caring so much
    1:26 PM – 25 Oct 13 ·

    He’s such a dweeb! This is much more serious than lying about knowing who someone is, Richie.

    • black enga
      October 25, 2013 at 10:37 PM

      As any good lawyer would tell him, Do Not Respond, but like a dog returns to his own vomit, he cant help himself.

      • October 26, 2013 at 1:16 AM

        A good lawyer would also tell him that he just copped to the documents being legitimate. What a buffoon. This is like when Joe Gorga asked Johnny the Greek how he knew the dirt on him. An innocent person would ask what are you talking about, not say, oh I see you have an accurate history of my business dealings.

      • October 26, 2013 at 9:22 AM

        Good one!

  71. MAK312
    October 25, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    My heart is heavy reading how these horrible, selfish people have taken advantage of Paterson and its residents. Please google Paterson, NJ. Read about what a wonderful city it used to be, before it fell into the hands of corrupt politicians with only their own interests in minds.

    Thank you so much for shedding so much light on these very unfair transactions. Justice needs to be served, and all accountable parties should be held responsible. I grew up in Paterson. I know Paterson. Paterson has, unfortunately, been in the leadership of some very selfish people who are looking to make a quick buck, without any regard of what happens to the city. Mayors elect officials who are related to them, and totally unqualified. While these people have been making a quick buck on foreclosures, property taxes have been rising (now up to 8-$12,000 , yes, thousand!) on homes a year. Residents cannot afford homes. They foreclose. And guess who profits? People like Rich Wakile.

    It happens in a vicious cycle.

    And what does the city have to show for it? NOTHING. Students are failing. The school system is horrible. Crime is rampant. We’ve got city officials from the outside making money off this city, and NO ONE speaks up because they are not affected by it, or they just don’t have the knowledge or ability to make their voices heard. Paterson is a city now that has large immigrant populations, and populations of people who are NOT EMPOWERED and just don’t have the know-how of this horribly corrupt legal/realtor system.

    Sad. Sad. Sad.

    We need to bring this incredible information Fame and Faux reality have shared with us to NJ12 News, or the Paterson Times.

    THIS NEEDS TO BE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE!

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      October 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM

      I was born in Paterson General and lived in the city until I was 4. My family did have involvement in local politics there – but it was a different place and time. The “white flight” hit in the early 60’s and the city changed forever. What used to be a very nice, livable city fell into utter ruin and decay. Now its just simply a tough place for anyone to live in.

      • suedechik79
        October 26, 2013 at 3:31 PM

        White flight seems to knock all of our cities down, doesn’t it? Camden used to be gorgeous. Now its in and out of contention for the most dangerous city in America.

        • old news
          October 26, 2013 at 8:55 PM

          Same for Newark.

          • suedechik79
            October 27, 2013 at 3:49 AM

            I saw a news show recently where certain panelists were complaining that poverty was creating crime in cities. Another commentator said, “You know, Ive reported from A LOT of impoverished areas, and the poorest community Ive ever visited was an Asian one. You know what the crime rate is? About ZERO.”

            Anytime someone connects poverty and crime, I remember this. If its not poverty (and by extension, none of the issues that could stem from poverty, ie lack of education), then pouring tons of taxpayer money into it is probably not going to have a positive effect. Or trying to equally distribute wealth just because.

  72. October 25, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    So, we’re not surprised @ this connection 2 Chacon, but now I keep thinking bout the scene in bar w/Kim D when Mel was goin off on her bout the cheating story bein exposed. Mel said it herself: “next time I’m gonna murder all ur kids” I mean who says that? Creepy. Its gettin scary ppl!

    • October 26, 2013 at 1:16 AM

      Whoa, I missed that. That’s a horrific thing to say!

    • Sharon
      October 26, 2013 at 4:04 AM

      WOW, I missed that.

      • October 27, 2013 at 12:18 AM

        FYI: Same epsd Jen tells her bout cheating convo.

  73. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 26, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    Akkk – I read upthread where Joseph Perconti is the attorney for the Wyckoff Planning Board. There is a whole world of sleaze going on there! Inserra Supermarkets has been trying open a ShopRite right next door to the (overpriced) Stop & Shop in Boulder Run. Literally the two stores would be within 50 feet of each other. The Planning Board (and Peconti) have been pretty much the bitch of Boulder Run. Even though the ShopRite would be moving into a former A&P the town has been fighting the application for 3 years. Folk around here are beyond pissed – we *want* the ShopRite. (For those not familiar – ShopRite has a mind boggling selection, superb quality – and prices that make it seem like it’s 1960). Anyway – people are wondering how much the Planning Board has been paid to keep this from going through. Something is definitely shady there too…

    • October 26, 2013 at 1:18 AM

      I actually prefer Stop & Shop! Although Fairway, Trader Joe’s, or Whole Foods would be way better. ShopRite has the best prices though if I remember correctly.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 26, 2013 at 2:56 PM

        The “flagship” Inserra ShopRite up on Rt 17 is amazing. The selection of grocery items is beyond compare. They even have huge selections of everything from Indian spices and products to Bulgarian foods! The meat is cut in house and is gorgeous. I still hit up Trader Joes and Fairway in Paramus, but I’m hooked on ShopRite – especially for the ludicrous prices. The Boulder Run Stop & Shop is huge, but doesn’t even come close in terms of SKUs and prices.

        • October 26, 2013 at 3:25 PM

          Hey Saddle, please check your e-mail.

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

            Got it! Thanks!!!

        • October 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

          Oooh! I’m drooling. We have a decent local supermarket and we order from Fresh Direct every now and then. Otherwise it’s Stop & Shop or Fairway.

        • old news
          October 26, 2013 at 8:53 PM

          Stop & Shop is RIDICULOUSLY overpriced. I’ve never been to one that is remotely cost effective. Though, honestly, their oatmeal cookies are BEYOND good.

      • suedechik79
        October 26, 2013 at 3:56 PM

        Wegmans has Shoprite prices, sometimes better, plus all that over the top organic stuff.

        It really depends on what you are buying. I go to Whole Foods for grassfed butter – Shoprites prices is 2-3$ more than what I pay without a sale. Trader Joes also has far better prices on a bunch of things. I go to Shoprite all the time, but I also spend just as much if not more there based on price alone as I would elsewhere.

  74. mak312
    October 26, 2013 at 2:13 AM

    Fame and faux…..you guys are simply amazing.

    The information you have uncovered is mind boggling.

    RIch Wakile and his heiffer wife (with the skills of an overstuffed arm-chair) should be sharting their pants.

    The more I read, the more disgusted I become.

    In one of her very first episodes Kathy Wakile mentioned “sharing the pie”.

    Well, heiffer, looks like you’re gonna get quite a slice, especially if this hits local news.

  75. October 26, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    I can only presume that Joe Gorga has been feeding information, correct or incorrect to Monica Chacon since 2005. He probably had hatred for his brother-in-law and didn’t mind at all that his sister was getting hurt in the process. He and his lovely secretary wife and whore, Melissa. That means that without question he has had contact with the two people who were in a Jonesing to bring his sister down, Monica Chacon and Danielle Staub. When he promised he would destroy his sister, who knew to what depths he would sink. He has been spying on Joe G for Monica for 8 yrs. and now it ends in the possibility of a long jail sentence for his only sister who, was not running around flipping properties, just signing what her husband told her to sign.
    And he has the balls to sit at the reunion show with that pos wife of his and nobly declare that he will be there for her children (if needed) All because his mother and sister did not approve of his rapid decision to marry a social -climbing whore from Tom’s River, and because his brother in law did not show him enough respect but treated him like a kid. He has been plotting against his sister and parents for years and years. What kind of people do that? When you put him together with Melissa Marco you get a special kind of monster. They are monsters. I would put nothing past them. May they get it back in spades. And Joey will rot in hell that is for sure. Wakile is just a dirt bag, but there is a special kind of hell for people like Melissa and Stumpy Gorga.

    • Miami53
      October 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

      ROTFLMAO…”Marry a social-climbing whore from Tom’s River”..!!!!

      • October 28, 2013 at 8:18 AM

        LOL…she has a way with words.

    • October 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM

      I love your posts, Gessie! I watch a lot of “Investigative Discovery” show’s and you described Marco trash meeting Gorga garbage as “Wicked Attraction”. Some people bring out the best in others, other people bring out the worst. Then you have “trash” and “garbage”, basically the same thing, that bring out the evil in each other!

    • October 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

      Agreed! Special place in hell 4 anyone cheating their own elderly parents outa their pd 4 home, so they lose it & have no where 2 live!!

      • October 28, 2013 at 8:17 AM

        Can’t even imagine. 😦

  76. Detroitrockcity
    October 26, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Something is “Rotten in Denmark” is a reference to Shakespear’s “Hamlet”! In “Hamlet” act 1 scene 4:Marcellus(an officer!?) says “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” having just seen the ghost of Hamlets father,the late King of Denmark!?! The phrase means “something is wrong” Unsatisfactory” Something sinister; / Wow I hope messy crosses herself with the right hand this time 😉 DRC <3!!

  77. cassie
    October 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    On part two of this season’s reunion Teresa said to Joe Gorga ” enemies try to hurt you and I’m tired of being hurt and you know what I’m talking about.” I think this statement indicated that she knew her brother had a hand in setting her and juicy up.

    • Anonymous
      October 26, 2013 at 9:22 PM

      But TB is so stupid he does not know when not to act. He’s been told by the producers to act as the victim, that’s his role. So instead he goes relax Teresa I’m the victim here. Such a sick puppy. He is a poor excuse for a man and if I was his parent I would be ashamed of him also.

  78. October 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Juicy’s business G&G Stone and Stucco advertised Old World Stucco. Did Juicy know how to do old fashioned craftsmen style work with stone and stucco? From looking up stucco tools, I can see how Juicy would be upset that TB did something with work tools. I think TB liked Juicy as a friend but also had jealousy issues with him. TB seems to shun his heritage and old school ways, and I agree, Juicy all around, is the son Mr. Gorga would have wanted and in a way got, when Teresa married Juicy. We know he makes wine and he also makes sausages and sauce. I’m sure Mr. Gorga tried to get his son do do those things with him.

    I do think at every failure TB faces, he rages with jealous anger and wants to destroy Juicy for being the man he can not be. Just like the fight at the retreat, TB ends up looking like a fool and the best side of Juicy shines. To want his mother to look at Melissa the way she looks at her daughter is also a foolish notion on TB’s part. He expects much from others while presenting himself as flawless, someone who needs no improvement, an angel of God.

    Does TB really think his father will have a change of heart about Juicy? I think the man was spot on when he told his son “Go cry to your mama”. His assessment of him only caring about himself was correct and I don’t see TB ever changing. Whatever happens to Juicy, he will still be the man, TB will never be, soomeone who cares about others.

  79. Chiara
    October 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Fame, congrats. I am a retired AML certified (anti money laundering) specialist. The research and presentation of the info on your blog is top notch. You have a lot of readers that understand red flags and the narrative you are weaving is top notch.

  80. October 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Great job Fame!!! WOW and holy crap!!! Also look at this…http://www.loansafe.org/judge-files-for-debt-relief
    This is about a Judge:This stuff is CRAZY

    “Perconti also has a business relationship with the Prospect Park police chief, Charbel Atie. Together they each own interests in two Prospect Park houses they rent to tenants, one at 28 Planten Ave., the other at 256 N. 9th St. The third partner is Richard Wakile of Wayne, who frequently appears on the reality TV show “Real Housewives of New Jersey.”

    “Perconti, a judge in Prospect Park since 2003, earned $29,793 last year. He has sat on the West Milford bench since 2007 and last year earned $32,761. He also serves as the Wyckoff Planning Board attorney, for which he was paid $3,499 in 2010”

    Perconti said he bought the houses with Atie and Wakile “in 2008 or 2009,” after he was already a sitting judge in Prospect Park. Atie was a lieutenant in the Prospect Park Police Department and wasn’t appointed chief until November 2010.

    “Under New Jersey’s Code of Judicial Conduct, a judge is allowed to own real estate in the municipality where he sits on the bench. But the code also holds that judges “should refrain from financial and business dealings that tend to reflect adversely on the judge’s impartiality, interfere with the proper performance of judicial duties, exploit judicial positions, or involve the judge in transactions with lawyers or persons likely to come before the court on which the judge serves”
    He is also a partner with Cook and others in four real estate partnerships that have been the subject of lawsuits:

    * One Washington Holdings LLC, which owns the shuttered Pan Chemical factory in Hawthorne, the site of an environmental cleanup. Amount of claim: $300,000.

    * 404 Washington Properties, which owns a restaurant and two apartments in Orange. Claim: $150,000.

    * 1138 Holdings LLC, which owns an industrial building on Grove Street in Irvington. Claim: $385,000

    * Grist Mill Commons LLC, a strip mall in Lebanon, Hunterdon County, subject to foreclosure. Claim: $1 million.

    Cook is a longtime North Haledon resident.

    The complaint filed by the Advisory Committee on Judicial Conduct cited that Cook at one time was a defendant in 43 lawsuits, most of them stemming from the real estate ventures he had set up in New York and New Jersey.

    The state’s complaint against Cook also alleges that Cook attempted to conceal an asset from a creditor by transferring ownership of his Jersey Shore home, first to his wife, then to his daughter. The complaint also alleges that the companies that Cook had an interest in — the law firm of Perconti and Cook, Jefferson Loan, and Puddingstone, a development company — made campaign contributions to politicians in Bergen and Passaic counties during the past decade.”

    • October 26, 2013 at 10:23 PM

      I am telling you, they all look like crooks.

    • October 27, 2013 at 12:18 AM

      The plot sickens.

  81. Sylvia smith
    October 26, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    I was trolling some comments from a couple of years ago on Reality Tea. A couple of posters claimed Kathy Pieri’s dad had mob ties and it carried on to his sons. He had several retail businesses that were fronts for the mob. They also claimed that Kathy and Rosie are estranged from her elder brothers because they are in the narcotics business for organized crime. Anybody know anything about this? The brother’s names? If they or their dad had a criminal record? Maybe bull. Maybe seem thread of truth. Who knows?

    • October 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

      I’ve seen the same rumors floating around, but nothing to substantiate anything. Who knows?

      • Sylvia smith
        October 27, 2013 at 8:46 AM

        You’re right. I found the names of the sons and there’s nothing out there about them. Here is her dad’s obit.
        PIERRI – Anthony Sr. of Totowa at rest in Wayne on November 11, 2002. Beloved husband of the former Maria D. Gorga. Father of Ralph, Joseph and Anthony Jr., Katherina F. Wakile and Rosemarie Pierri. Brother of Frank, Basilio and Angelo Pierri, Anna La Fante and Regina Bonini. Grandfather of nine. Anthony Pierri Sr. was certified in orthopedic corrective footwear. He was owner / Proprietor of Interstate Shoe Repair, Ramsey and 21st Avenue Shoe Repair. He learned the trade in Italy at a young age. Relatives and friends are invited to attend the funeral from the Festa Memorial Funeral Home, 111 Union Blvd., Totowa on Thursday at 9 AM. Funeral Mass to follow at St. James R.C. Church, Totowa at 9:30 AM. Entombment at Laurel Grove Memorial Park Mausoleum, Totowa. Friends may call Wednesday 2-4 and 7-9 PM.
        Published in The Record/Herald News on Nov. 12, 2002
        Remember Obituary

        • October 27, 2013 at 7:37 PM

          Giacinto Gorga owns Interstate Shoe Repair. It made the “Best of Bergen Personal & Home Services Readers’ Choice Awards” If Papa Gorga worked his whole life in the shoe repair business, I wonder if he also learned the trade in Italy and worked with his brother inlaw when they came over.

        • October 28, 2013 at 8:40 AM

          So 3 Pierri brothers-7 other Grandkids and we never see or hear about them EVER? No face book or twitter photos,,nothing?

  82. js
    October 27, 2013 at 2:19 AM

    When Monica introduced herself to Melissa she said”Im the attorney suing your sister in law” in season 3 fashion show, Melissa smiled and shook her hand.
    Remind you of Judas?
    If at a function some female starts her introduction like that to me… I would have neither smiled NOR shook her hand. I would have been speechless! Then probably say Im sorry you are not welcome
    at my table. The hatred is so clear. Andy /Bravo/Sirens just whitewashed all of Melissa’s nasty behavior but put a laser beam on every problem and word Teresa spoke that was not right.
    This Monica Chacon seems to have a personal vendetta @ the Guidice family.
    Only people who have had a family member murdered, raped or tortured can look forward to a prison sentence. Every one who gloats over people serving time for taxes are wierdos…and they withdrew their bankruptcy and are repaying debt so put those pitchforks down people! Ridiculous how elated Melissa Gorgas family and fans and paid posters are about these charges. Get a Life!!!

    • October 27, 2013 at 4:53 PM

      Applause!!!

      • October 28, 2013 at 7:42 AM

        More Applause!!!!!! 🙂

  83. October 28, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    Doing a little reading and I came across this old comment,,,LOL

    gessie says:

    December 2, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    “I think he looks like Jeff Goldblum…………………..if Jeff Goldblum had been run over by a bus.”

    Love it!

  84. October 28, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    Kathy is smart, but she is very very calculating and evil. She knows what to say to Teresa to upset her. I also remember a comment-a dig- about Tre’s Mom. Something like “someone” has already raised her(talking about Tre), sounding very smug and superior. I am telling you, she is the worst one.
    Kathy is a fake and closeted A-hole.

  85. October 28, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    The Judge-Harold Cook has been sued *******43 Times*******both personally and in his capacity as a member of more than 40 LLCs in the Superior Court Of New Jersey. WHAT THE HECK?? And this is who the Gorgas and Wakiles are doing business with!!!! What I really want to know is what he was up to while he was serving as counsel to the Wyckoff Zoning Board . His partner was Perconti. All the info is here:
    http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/pressrel/ACJC%20Cook%20Formal%20Complaint.pdf

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