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Melissa Gorga Attempts to “Jolie the Leg” or is She Copying Jennifer Lopez, Again?

October 15, 2013

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At the 2012 Oscars, while presenting the Oscar for best adapted screenplay, Angelina Jolie assumed a position that exposed her right leg via the slit in her Atelier Versace gown. It was a move that she had already busted out on the Oscar red carpet, as well as one that has inspired its own Twitter feed (@AngiesRightLeg).

When Jim Rash — along with his fellow winners in the adapted screenplay category, Alexander Payne and Nat Faxon — rose to accept the award for “The Descendants”, the motivation to mimic came over him.

“It was just an impulse,” he told the Washington Post at the Governors Ball. “I hope it was okay. I hope she thought it was okay. It was a loving tribute.”

It’s unclear whether Jolie thought it was loving or not. But was it funny to many of the people watching the Oscars at home? That’s a definite yes.

Is Melissa Gorga copying Angie or JLo?

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Betty White did the move on her show, “Hot in Cleveland,” in April 2012: Preparing for an upcoming fashion show on, White’s character Elka solicits runway walking advice from Victoria (Wendie Malick) and Melanie (Valerie Bertinelli) before her big debut. Victoria’s best advice on how to wow the crowd? Offer a “bored look to the audience and ‘Jolie’ the leg,” she advises Elka.

“Elka, you look like you’d rather be anywhere other than here right now. Great job!” Victoria says as White, 90, vamps in character.

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Jolie’s thigh-flashing moment became an internet sensation and photoshoppers had a field day with it!

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In April 2012, Melissa posted the following photo on her Facebook page, comparing herself to Jennifer Lopez:

In June 2012, Melissa added a new photo of herself to her Facebook page, which very closely resembles an older photo of Jennifer Lopez (this is not a coincidence):

On January 18, 2012, Melissa told ChicagoPride: “As far as a performer, I love Jennifer Lopez.

“OMG, _______ is always looking for the J-Lo look. Met her once – she tried on a few pieces and her gross husband was there. She came out and he said, ‘Yeah baby, you look like J-Lo’.” – Blind Item Sent from Boutique Owners and Designers About _______ Trying to Get Free Stuff, StoopidHousewives, October 14, 2013

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  1. Zoebot
    October 15, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    This is a joke right? I’m not a fan of MeHo but I mean…

    • October 15, 2013 at 1:22 AM

      Of course it is lol

      • Zoebot
        October 15, 2013 at 1:29 AM

        Haha, thank you Jesus. 😉

    • Dasher
      October 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

      Melissa is just a big copy cat! She has no sense for style and never will.

    • Grand-Beth
      October 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM

      I wonder what the real J-Lo thinks about her copy-cat……………..

  2. October 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    In the “Tell All” part 1 episode, we see that Joe Gorga can’t add 5 + 6. Melissa says that even though he doesn’t know how to do simple math, he’s a great builder. Building requires the ability to measure accurately, so it’s doubtful he knows what he’s doing.

    Here are tweets to/from Kathy about the episode, which showed the cast members’ crude sense of humor, even in front of minors like Joseph Wakile (plus Juicy and Rosie were drunk when Gia was on her laptop doing homework, asking them questions – Rosie said so during the reunion):

    Kathy Wakile ‏@KathyWakile 4h
    How are you all enjoying the lost footage #RHONJ so far??

    Fabiola ‏@Fabby84 4h
    @KathyWakile I have tears in my eyes from so much laughing. That’s one of the reasons why I love you guys

    janie newborg ‏@justanothermary 4h
    @KathyWakile Why would they film Richie and Joe Go being so disgusting?

    Richard Wakile ‏@richardwakile 4h
    I think people need to get a sense of humor & laugh a little!

    Kathy Wakile ‏@KathyWakile 4h
    “@richardwakile: I think people need to get a sense of humor & laugh a little!” I agree baby!! #RHONJ

    Maia Delaney ‏@maiad221 3h
    @KathyWakile @richardwakile yet Kathy, you are not happy on the show when Rich says those things…

    Susan Reed ‏@chevdiva 3h
    @KathyWakile @richardwakile some of the things just aren’t funny, more hurtful like the dig about fat people, just not cool

    Nettie Albohali ‏@Net_tie 4h
    @KathyWakile these are the scenes the fans want to see not the fighting!! Take note @Bravotv #RHONJ

    Kathy Wakile ‏@KathyWakile 4h
    “@Net_tie: @KathyWakile these are the scenes the fans want to see not the fighting!! Take note @Bravotv #RHONJ” I agree!!

    Melissa looked wasted when she showed up 40 minutes late for her rehearsal in Orlando.

    Milania called her sister a “beesh” and acted like a spoiled brat – she needs to be checked before it gets worse.

    Kim D trash talked, disrespected, and put her hands on Jennifer Dalton (pushing her). That’s unacceptable!

    • Sharon
      October 15, 2013 at 4:42 AM

      Tweet the lovely Wakiles and ask if they paid Exxon yet and if they lost their house? That should shut them up for a while.

    • October 15, 2013 at 7:39 AM

      That whole conversation TB and Wretched had with Joseph was disgusting and was out of line. Clearly Joseph was uncomfortable, embarrassed, and couldn’t get away fast enough. And while MMP looked exasperated, she did absolutely nothing to stop it. Great role models those Wakile kids have

    • adioslunatic
      October 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

      @ Fame

      ITA about Milania…love her, but she is a little too wild and needs a come to Jesus talk before she is a teen and even worse an adult! Once a brat hits their teens it’s usually downhill from there.

      Come on Teresa, get a grip on Milania before she has a grip on YOU. It will not be pretty or cute or amusing not too far from now. In fact, it’s not a good look now.

      Though, I have to admit, that amount of energy to contend with must be a challenge constantly to contend but contend you MUST. Save her from herself Teresa!

      • October 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM

        We don’t know if she is a brat. She only plays one on t.v.

        • adioslunatic
          October 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM

          @ Gessie

          I get that, I do. Teresa may have been out of earshot when Milania said beesh and if she was I am sure Blahvo would find it convenient to edit any discipline action out to reinforce the “Milania is a brat” angle.

          Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.

          • adioslunatic
            October 15, 2013 at 9:11 AM

            * disciplinary action

        • Anonymous
          October 15, 2013 at 6:40 PM

          I’m sure milania is dramatic and likes to play it up for the cameras- she’s a regular Sarah Bernhardt .. I was just like her —- and it was fun to act dramatic .. Hehehe

          • corky21
            October 16, 2013 at 11:21 AM

            When I met Teresa down the shore, all the kids were behaving just fine. They were going on rides, etc. and Gia when I spoke with her was very polite. I’m sure Milania is a bit energetic and needs to be disciplined quite a bit, but she was fine when I saw them.

          • vallygirl
            October 18, 2013 at 6:54 AM

            I agree Milania is great for the cameras.
            She’ll be fine.

            My niece was Milania x10. Now she’s 21, normal, gets her Bachelor’s in 2014. She grew out of that “Milania” stage early, I did too was probably 100 times worst than Milania and I turned out ok. I became a Master Colorist after I did hair for a few yrs. Never been to jail, never broke the law. I think kids like Milania and I was one of them are artists, I bet she’ll do great in music, drawing,painting.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM

        I didn’t watch so I didn’t see milania misbehaving. But milania reminds me of one of my girls. She was hell on wheels when she was that age, but she calmed down as she grew older and now she is a well behaved young adult. My other girl was calm and quiet as a church mouse.

        • October 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM

          lsg we have 6 girls and all are diff but the ones that were rambuncious lil are respectful and nice adults now, I didn’t watch it either last nite may catch it later. I pray for the giudices

        • October 15, 2013 at 3:33 PM

          Milania totally reminds me of my daughter. It was EXHAUSTING when she was young and I could never believe it when her teachers would comment about how mannerly, respectful, and well-behaved she was at school. Now, at 22, she too is very well-behaved and very respectful. Milania is certainly high-spirited though but I don’t see that as necessarily a bad OR good thing.

          • I live in the neighborhood
            October 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM

            Bree,

            So agree my baby girl was the same way, she is 20 now straight A student at top University and was offered an internship with Nassau next summer. Milania is hilarious, but she will down, that confidence is going to take her very far in life.

      • Confused
        October 15, 2013 at 11:17 AM

        With all due respect, I have a niece that was Milania made over. Raising a child like that takes patience, lots of it. They do that to try to gain control and sometimes you just have to let them act out and address it at a later time. BTW, my niece has grown up to a beautiful, sensitive, kind and caring young woman.

        • October 15, 2013 at 3:43 PM

          I just commented above…my daughter was just like Milania and it IS exhausting. Like I said above (before I read your comment), my daughter was a totally different child at school…her teachers never failed to let me know what an amazing job we had done in raising such a polite and lovely little girl. She too is a very sensitive, kind, and caring young lady now at 22 (and always was, AT SCHOOL, lol). Milania is certainly high-spirited but I don’t see her as a mean little girl, at all.

          • LifeIsGood
            October 15, 2013 at 4:42 PM

            Bree, Mine too! She was an angel in school once she started first grade. When her teacher told me what a well behaved little girl she was, I thought she was talking about the wrong kid! She spent most of her Kindergarten year in the “Sorry Chair” LOL

            I think Milania will be just fine.

            • October 15, 2013 at 6:20 PM

              Mine was ALWAYS like that in school. The goal for the first grade teacher was seriously for my Ash to get in trouble just once for speaking out of turn or being rude or something like that. Took all damned year but she finally got “her color moved” and I think the teacher trumped that one up for her. I do remember she was pretty proud of herself for getting her color moved though. She was the bossiest, most rambunctious, and CHATTY child at home though.

              I, too, think Milania will be just fine.

              • elemcee
                October 16, 2013 at 2:20 PM

                My son was just like Milania at home, and little Mr. Perfection at school. It was so weird, he would not even get a penalty in hockey, and we would tell him we would pay him $50 if he would just ice or something on purpose during a slow game, and he would not do it.

                It also seems to me that when Milania is in stores and at parties and stuff now, she is much more subdued than she was in the past. I think she tries to not embarrass Antonia, because she loves her so much, and Antonia has very good manners.

      • Jacqueline's Neck Rolls
        October 15, 2013 at 4:34 PM

        I think Gia is worse than Milania. I don’t like the way Gia talks to her mother. If I’m correct she used the word “ass” when she went out with her uncle.

        • adioslunatic
          October 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM

          @JNR

          Gia is a typical 12 yr old and they test you…ass isn’t what I call a curse – IMO.

    • GPM
      October 15, 2013 at 4:11 PM

      I always thought everyone knew Joe and Rosie were drunk when they filmed those Joe & Rosie segments! LOL

      • October 15, 2013 at 6:54 PM

        So did I. They either have half empty glasses or are near bottles. Didn’t know it was something that had to be stated.

    • vallygirl
      October 16, 2013 at 10:46 AM

      OMG Fame Melissa admitted SloJoe can’t do simple math. Now, we’ve all come to understand that he has trouble reading (Melissa reads everything out loud for him). And she admits on top of that he can’t do simple math. All I have to say is SloJoe needs to be hooked on phonics!!!!!!!!! And who would want to live in a house built by a man who can’t read and can’t do simple math?
      Did someone forget to tell him there are safety issues with his trouble reading and doing simple math?

      My great niece just started kindergarten and she’s started doing simple math and reading when she was 3.

      Maybe slojoe needs to do things that don’t require math and reading only I can’t think of anything

      • October 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM

        It is alarming that Joe can’t read or do what I will call ‘school’ math (I think the addition errors have got to be a bad edit – I dislike the Gorgas FYI).
        BUT – my ex husband was honestly the same way and he is a fantastic carpenter in high demand in our area. Dropped out of school in 9th grade and went right into the work force. Customers with doctoral degrees are marveled at the precision of his work. Odd but true.

        • October 16, 2013 at 6:23 PM

          I hope it was editing because otherwise that would be really sad. Melissa said she had to erase his answers though so I don’t know. Architects have to be good at math. This lends credence to the rumor that he does landscaping and pools rather than actual building.

    • Anonymous
      October 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM

      Hi Fame,
      its become clear to me whats going on rhonj. I know ppl like the manzos, in the lifestyle. there is no way they wouldnt have come on rhonj and started what they do, threatening, manipulating situations to their gain & scamming. thats what these ppl do in the life. there is no way they didnt threaten andy and not allow him to show manzo drama and that included the lariutas, bc they are family. that is why andy could only show ter and mel drama for the past 3 seasons. they would threaten his life if andy were to their truths.
      melissa knew of this and that is why we saw the marco sisters try it too on twitter, allluding to criminal ties to scare andy to now show mel truth, they figured hey if it worked for the manzos, maybe it’ll work for them too; but andy is not that stupid and knows they are not that connected.
      i really feel for andy in this situation. u dont find out what these ppl are really about until its too late

  3. October 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    I loved the lost footage … well not the Wakilies, Lauritas, Gorgas or Manzos — but I liked the rest!

    • Miami53
      October 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM

      Loved it too!! Like I said in another post…I would be so embarrass to have a brother like slow Joe…he is too much with the sex talk in front of the kids. I love Milania especially when she was coming home from school! TB and chicklets talking to his son….shameful! I pray season 6 is different…I feel like I’m watching the Jersey Shore antics of the parents…

    • October 15, 2013 at 8:51 PM

      I agree, Mzjulesaz, I loved the scene’s with Tre, Juicy and the girls! If my daughter dated Joseph Wakile I wouldn’t let her go to his house! I can’t believe Richie said, on camera, that his kids didn’t want their school mates to know their related to Tre (during S4, I think?)! I would think it would be the other way around because Richie is a disgusting pervert and so is TB! They both give me the creeps, especially Richie with his mouth hanging open most of the time! Kathy should use her voice and tell Richie to STFU!

      • mzjulesaz
        October 15, 2013 at 9:41 PM

        I wouldn’t let my daughter within 1500 miles of those people (Wakilies and Gorgas) — they are gross. The sad thing is Kathy encourages Richie …. just gross.

        • October 16, 2013 at 11:55 AM

          Joe Gorga and Richie were vulgar & filthy. Hopefully young Joey Wakile follows his mothers usual classy lead and remains the gentleman he appears to be growing into.

          • mzjulesaz
            October 16, 2013 at 4:40 PM

            Have you seen him on twitter and his not so classy mother — they are all vulgar!

  4. teramusique
    October 15, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    Jolie and JLo made it work.

    Melissa’s attempt is awkward and half-assed

    • October 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM

      Melissa is actually holding her dress open to let us know she has a slit there, whereas the other dresses opened at the slit naturally. Probably because they weren’t made in some ratty bridal store.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 15, 2013 at 9:05 AM

        Allow me to paraphrase…. Melissa is actually holding her dress open to let us know there is a slut there….

        • October 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM

          Saddle — question, is TSIL really doing a book signing at an Exxon in Wayne or Sunday or is that a twitter joke?

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 15, 2013 at 12:48 PM

            Time Out Café opened in a former Exxon Service Station. Given the Slut’s propensity for gas station bathrooms, she probably jumped at the chance. It’s not exactly a classy place. They run contests with the prize being the use of a luxury car for a single day. So classy….

            • elemcee
              October 15, 2013 at 5:06 PM

              Do/did the Wakilies (sp and no I do not care enough to look up the speling) own this business?

          • suedechik79
            October 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM

            Joe and Melissa just appeared at the BEST Italian restaurant in South Jersey yesterday the 14th, DiPaolo’s in Penns Grove. Oddly enough, Theresa made an appearance there (with recipes being served by the restaurant from Theresas book) around Fathers Day this year. I didn’t go to either event, as if I go to DiPaolos, Im going for DiPaolos food, not Theresa’s.

  5. cass
    October 15, 2013 at 4:21 AM

    Loved the Milania report card part…..hysterical!!! You can truly see that T gets such a kick out of this kid! Also, the Guidice kids with the dog;;;;too funny!!

  6. toxicprince
    October 15, 2013 at 5:52 AM

    she’s not standing right, terrible angle, she looks embarrassed, the dress just doesn’t look right for that. i don’t know. it just isn’t right.

    • LifeIsGood
      October 15, 2013 at 6:47 AM

      Jolie is standing in a way that exposes her legs – Meho is just pulling the dress back to show her leg. It would have been funnier if Meho struck the same dramatic pose as Jolie.

      Of all of MeHo’s stunts – this one is pretty harmless.

    • Pittsburghfan
      October 15, 2013 at 6:52 AM

      Melissa designed this dress. Of course it is for sale. I thought it looked like a peach sheet used at a toga party. The phrase cheesy products keeps coming to my mind.

      • October 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM

        What is that cheese in a can? She could doddle some hair on the stump for a matching look.

        • Pittsburghfan
          October 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

          Gessiewtf
          Thank you for that. I wish I knew how to Photoshop. I keep imagining TB with mound of cheeswiz on his head.

  7. Kimmers
    October 15, 2013 at 6:41 AM

    Lol I thought the same thing about Mel trying to copy Angelina’s leg pop and said so on twitter on 10-9-13 but she never responded to me. She also copied Tre with the long dress this year.

    • October 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM

      IF TSIL is invited to next year’s reunion I predict she will wear a dark colored sequined racer dress! I also predict that TSIL will start lifting weights to tone up her arms, like Tre’s. I thought Tre looked really pretty at the reunion! Her hair, make-up and dress looked beautiful on her. I’m sure TSIL was envious.

      • Anonymous
        October 16, 2013 at 3:05 PM

        exactly, she copied ter look for previoius year and just looked dated and tacky & overdressed at this years

  8. Detroitrockcity
    October 15, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    That is hil-freaken hillarry -us; )!!!! Omg, I’m thawing out chicken legs as we speak!! Garlick and lemon ; ) !!

    • Sackem
      October 15, 2013 at 8:26 AM

      Bwhahahahhahaha!

    • October 15, 2013 at 8:57 PM

      That sounds good. I want your recipe if you care to share and have time. Thanks! DTC!

  9. October 15, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    Well, there appears there will be some competition between Teresa and “My Mom’s Pizzelles aka MMP” (that would be Kathy) coming up shortly.

    Teresa announced on Twitter quite awhile ago she was expanding into desserts and coffee. She recently traveled to Boston to work on her dessert and coffee line which is scheduled to be out Spring 2014. From her most recent blog on her website:

    “Joe and I just got back from Boston where we were meeting with retailers about rolling out our new line of Fabulicious Desserts and Coffee. I’m so excited! It will be in stores this Spring!”

    And look who’s coming up right behind her and just made an announcement as to what is coming up next – an excerpt from an interview MMP did with OKMagazine:

    “Rich and I went up to Boston and we had the best time. We were meeting with a lot of people, and it looks like my dessert business is going to expand considerably, and what better to expand it with than dessert and coffee? I’m really thrilled to be going that route.”

    canales ‏@valenciacanale1 7h
    I’m confused isn’t @Teresa_Giudice going to create a dessert line?? Why is Kathy copying her? Can you clarify @HeatherMaclean?
    9:02 PM – 14 Oct 13

    Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean 7h
    @valenciacanale1 @Teresa_Giudice I cannot. I have no idea why Kathy wants to do what Teresa does so badly.
    9:06 PM – 14 Oct 13

    Ross ‏@rossst209 7h
    @HeatherMaclean @valenciacanale1 @Teresa_Giudice @kathywakile Kathy ? WTH
    9:10 PM – 14 Oct 13

    Ross ‏@rossst209 7h
    @HeatherMaclean @LisaTrampolina @FauxRealityE @melissagorga @kathywakile what in the hell is heather talking about now.
    9:11 PM – 14 Oct 13

    Kathy Wakile ‏@KathyWakile 1h
    @rossst209 umm have no idea but my line is 2 years in! And my experience goes way back!
    2:48 AM – 15 Oct 13 ·

    • October 15, 2013 at 7:41 AM

      MMP’s “Line” consists of a cannoli kit now sold exclusively on her website – period.

      Forgot to source the OKMagazine: http://okmagazine.com/meet-the-stars/kathy-wakile-a-la-carte-the-rhonj-star-says-whats-next-for-her-dessert-business/

      • LifeIsGood
        October 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

        I’d put my money on T’s line. On T’s blog, she mentioned that fabellini will be available at Costco! That is a major score and has a real chance to make her very wealthy if it’s managed well. My guess is that this is the primary reason she moved production to Italy. I hope she gets her dessert and coffee lines there as well..

      • October 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM

        Really? Does ANYBODY care about her or anything she does? She is such a nobody. An invisible player on a show. Even her own castmates talk over her. Who wants her shit? She met with people in Boston. Why, is that the only place catfish thinks they make deals. Oh, wow. The Wakile’s are such idiots. It is a shame Bravo found them by their rented above ground pool and cast them on the show. At what point does some higher-up grab Andy by the scruff of his collar in a meeting and say, “You know what you ungrateful shit? You have no eye for talent and no innovative ideas.” And then kick him in the balls as hard as he can.

        • October 15, 2013 at 10:32 AM

          I can just see that and how I wish it would come true! Regarding Andy, that is.

        • Lady Heather
          October 16, 2013 at 6:39 PM

          Re Andy- Fabulous imagery gessie! The thought of it is very satisfying.

      • October 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM

        it wont let you vote except on the yes you like them ,so im not voting for catfish

      • October 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM

        Sometime’s I think that this whole show is an “act”. Then I question why Kathy seems to be competing with Tre? Tre is more popular than Kathy will ever be. If Kathy is really wanting to branch out and try to sell her bakery items she’s not going to be successful hating Tre! It seems like she would know that by now.

        • Russkaya
          October 15, 2013 at 1:11 PM

          I don’t think she can get over her jealousy that’s why when she’s being nice to Tre it comes across as fake because she is a snake just like Tre said when kat first came on. They all feel that because Tre is family they all deserve the opportunities she got. They will always hold it against her that they didnt become successful, they blame her for it. Tre doesnt trust her for a reason. Also I think there’s more to it than we know. It goes back to their parents drama. Remember when Tre said her dad was there for kat more than her own dad, Kat really lost it. And Rosie’s reaction. There’s definitely more to the story.

          • mc
            October 15, 2013 at 3:05 PM

            Russkaya- (beautiful name btw). I completely agree there is more to that story. If T’s father was there to Kat and Rosie more than their own and I know I sound like a broken record saying this, but remember Kat did call T’s dad a coward and her mother a liar…well, it just makes both of their behavior towards T even more disgusting than it already is. If this crap on TV is true–Who could justify calling an elderly man with ailing health a coward for not speaking with her when she is clearly bashing his daughter his endlessly? It’s stupid and I will never EVER support anything walkile or gorga-marco They sicken me!

            I just find it funny that people (T’s family) believe that if a family member is successful, then automatically they should be afforded the same privileges. Does success by default ever happen? The gorgas and wakiles will always be jealous of T but their antics have made the majority of the viewing audience not trust them. Whatever they do now will be met with suspicion –as it should. The numbers don’t lie.

            • Miami53
              October 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM

              Don’t quote me…but did I hear that Kathy and Rose’s father had cancer…they is probably why Tre’s father was there for them when he was ill.

              • Miami53
                October 15, 2013 at 3:50 PM

                “that”

              • LifeIsGood
                October 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

                I think you’re correct, Miami. I remember reading that as well. I think he was sick for a long time before he passed. I think Teresa meant that her father helped out Kathy’s mom during that time – I don’t think she meant it as a slam against Kathy’s dad.

                • October 15, 2013 at 7:37 PM

                  She didn’t IMO, but Crazy Rosie started screaming and Teresa never got to clarify what she was saying.

      • elle
        October 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM

        The expense of purchasing that kit and having it shipped is close to $80 for 24 cannolis. I can either make my own, buy ready made shells and make my own filling (which is pretty much just ricotta and sugar) or better yet, go to a bakery. One can even buy the shells through Amazon if they are not locally available. The other special desserts she was making on the show were those little cream based desserts like the shooters at Applebees. I guess they needed something for her to do….
        The price on those cannolis though! Who would pay that and why?

        • mc
          October 15, 2013 at 3:09 PM

          Elle- that is an insane price for the price of 24 cannolis! It was a dumb move on Kat’s part and she deserves the lack of success. 12 Cannoli shells already made are 6 bucks at the grocery store and ricotta and sugar is about 4.50. Why the hell would anyone spend that kind of money on fishcrotch? I don’t get it and I just want her to go away. Oh and btw, the local bakery and whole foods average about 2.75 for one cannoli. Dumbass idea.

          • Miami53
            October 15, 2013 at 3:53 PM

            We have a great…actually several Italian bakeries around here…no way would I pay that price!!! Does she think she is that loved….maybe having a dessert cookbook would have been a better idea.

            • mc
              October 15, 2013 at 7:37 PM

              I know I’m a bit biased but I don’t understand anyone that actually could love her. After her antics of going so disgustingly after her own family (publicly), it just didn’t and doesn’t make sense that she would attempt the baking/cooking hook–considering how the “genre” of cooking epitomes familial and social gatherings. She really shot herself in the foot and can blame no one for her failure in this venture. It’s just funny to me how she now sees that the drama she created was a mistake for her own brand and ha ha on her because it’s quite difficult to come back from that type of miscalculation. I don’t own any of T’s previous books but I will buy her dessert line and dessert cookbook just because I can’t stand Kathy. I don’t care enough for Kathy (nor does anyone, really?) but if someone can count the ways she is recanting to save her image….ahh.

              Anyways, I am just pissed because I saw a clip of her saying that T misunderstood her intentions for joining the show and that it wasn’t about villainizing T. Um, okay, biotch, did you watch season 3 & 4? It’s clear to humanity what your intentions were. She needs to quit recanting and back it on up to her house and never leave,

              TOO little- TOO late!

              • October 15, 2013 at 9:22 PM

                At the past three reunions Kathy is usually the first one to butt in when someone is attacking Tre. She doesn’t butt in to defend Tre, no, she butts in to “gang” up on Tre, her own cousin! Kathy has had numerous chances to take up for Tre when it’s 2+ people against her but she never did. Not to mention her husband and daughter insult Tre and Kathy doesn’t tell them to be quiet. I have problems with my younger sister and if my kids said something mean about her I would feel so ashamed that my disgust with her rubbed off onto my kids! She seems to not really care what is said about her cousin, Tre, as long as it’s negative. TSIL, TB, Richie and Kathy seem to think that them sticking together and bashing Tre will turn viewer’s against Tre. I guess they think, “Were her family and if we don’t like her then the viewer’s will wonder why and turn on her. Then we’ll get her fans and be rich!!!” What disgusting people! Yet, Kathy thinks people love her and will buy her bakery items? Uhh, no thanks!

              • jeanbean
                October 15, 2013 at 9:29 PM

                You know what ? Kathy had her opportunity and that time has passed. What she chose to market and whose coattails she chose to ride at this point is moot. I can’t see her ever having a platform like the housewives again.

          • suedechik79
            October 15, 2013 at 6:12 PM

            And theres no way it could be a better cannoli than Sweet Eats Bakery makes in Voorhees. What a joke.

            • mc
              October 15, 2013 at 7:07 PM

              I don’t know where that is, but here in the west coast (in most places), it’s all natural and/or organic. They are quite large and so fresh….NOT FROZEN. Again, you could probably make your own even better. Some bakeries will sell just the shell as well.
              I’m gonna look up that bakery your talking about.

            • Sjprincess1
              October 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM

              Ahhhh sweet eats…..

        • October 15, 2013 at 3:22 PM

          Only an idiot.

        • LifeIsGood
          October 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

          Yikes! Over $3 per cannoli – I wouldn’t buy it even if I liked Kathy.

        • October 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM

          For $80 I’ll send you 50 cannoli from Italy! That’s extortion to demand over $3 a cannoli and whoever pays it is a fool

        • October 16, 2013 at 4:45 AM

          That’s almost 100% of the cannoli kit price for shipping and handling! What a scam!

          • October 16, 2013 at 6:02 AM

            Wtf????? Is she mailing from the US or from Mars? I spent half of that on mailing Christmas presents from Italy to nj for my brother, sil 2 nieces and nephew last year. Trading standards where are you?!

          • LifeIsGood
            October 16, 2013 at 7:02 AM

            If the filling is cream-based, then it must ship express and with dry ice which adds a lot of weight. But still…

            To me, this is a rookie mistake on her part. It’s not enough to have a great product. You have to be able to bring it in at a competitive price. People will pay a small premium when a celebrity name is attached, but when your shipping is coming in at nearly 100% of your selling price it’s time to develop a new business model. I thought Richie was such a great businessman? LMAO.

            Her idea of mini desserts is not a bad one, but is she is going to make a business of shipping the finished product she needs to go back to the drawing board. Perhaps she should select those treats that do not require refrigeration, develop an online catalog and allow people to purchase them by the dozen.

            Teresa announced that her fabellini will be available at Costco. She could make a lot of money with this if she plays her cards right.

          • October 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM

            DOLCI DELLA DEA GODDESS SWEETSis owned by Goddess In You, LLC
            Pompton Lakes, NJ 07442 RICHARD M. GOLDBERG
            http://www.markhound.com/trademark/search/VmmN5pRrF

            http://www.trademarkia.com/correspondent-richard-m-goldberg-1-672498

            • October 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM

              10/15/13 23:30:17 Division Of Gaming Enforcement PAGE 128
              Active Vendors Report
              0086335 GODDESS IN YOU LLC 5 GATES PLACE WAYNE NJ 07470 5515871980
              page167
              0086335 KATHY WAKILE 5 GATES PLACE WAYNE NJ 07470 5515871980
              http://www.nj.gov/lps/ge/docs/Reports/active_vendor.pdf

              The Division of Gaming Enforcement’s (DGE) mission is to protect the public interest by maintaining a legitimate and viable casino gaming industry, free from the influences of organized crime, and assuring the honesty, good character and integrity of casino owners, operators, employees and vendors. http://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/index.html

              A. The Active Vendors List (AVL) identifies all approved vendors that have been registered to do business with the Atlantic City casinos. This list is updated on a daily basis.
              http://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/sils_licensing.htm

              • October 16, 2013 at 2:20 PM

                Does RICHARD M. GOLDBERG own DOLCI DELLA DEA GODDESS SWEETS or Kathy Wakile?

    • October 15, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      Perfect, Jeannie! I added Kathy’s quote from OK magazine to:

      https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/teresa-giudice-vs-kathy-wakile-dessert-line/

  10. October 15, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    JLO
    Notice Melissa position of her leg and foot.

  11. Kay
    • October 15, 2013 at 1:52 PM

      Fame should put a copy of this photo right up next to TSIL’s at the beginning of this article. Amazing – the color is identical and the style is just about the same!!

      I’d say if I had to choose whether TSIL was tryng to emulate either Jolie or JLo in this instance – to me, JLo wins hands down. TSIL does not have the pose right – she looks tentative and awkward, but the dress, the hair, the make-up – an exact, cheap replica of JLo. They say imitation is the best flattery – but in this case, JLo should be insulted TSIL is so blatantly copying everything about her down to the eyelashes. It’s like a piece of dull glass next to a diamond. SWF stalker, anyone?

    • black enga
      October 15, 2013 at 3:32 PM

      Thanks Kay for posting this. I have noticed the way Melissa poses for pics, she always has her hand on her right hip with her finger spread apart on her hip. Teresa always has her hand on her hip with her fingers together. She has a very distinct way that she holds things with her hands. Now Melissa does it too in pics. I found a link to one of them I have seen more but I don’t remember where.

      There is something definitely wrong with this chic.


      Wonder how many sold so far?

      http://starcasm.net/archives/246351

      • suedechik79
        October 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

        Both Theresa and Melissa seem to be going through media training. I don’t know if the similar poses are a result of merely that or copycat-ing.

      • liltshoe
        October 15, 2013 at 8:31 PM

        Doesn’t she realize that it is way too early to start advertising for prom dresses?

        • black enga
          October 15, 2013 at 9:05 PM

          Lol,

  12. Sackem
    • October 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

      That is so great Sackem. Perfect. And fits so perfectly, especially the part about the fake followers and robot accounts. The end is coming.

  13. Anonymous
    October 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    I can see very well, kay is that jlo in the peach dress ,tsil was copying?

    • black enga
      • black enga
        October 15, 2013 at 4:41 PM

        This woman better be very careful with these dresses that she (copies) designs.

      • October 15, 2013 at 5:31 PM

        Thanks for the links, Kay and black enga! I added the additional photos of Melissa copying JLo to this blog, plus some other photos from an older blog of mine.

        • black enga
          October 15, 2013 at 6:36 PM

          Fame and Kay!!! I just wanted to see a close-up of the dress. It is eerily similar to Mel’s dress. I would be creeped out if I was Teresa or J-Lo.

          She copies their makeup, clothes, poses, their whole style. Weird, just weird.

          • black enga
            October 15, 2013 at 6:37 PM

            How the heck did that happen…. Thanks Fame and Kay!!!!

  14. October 15, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    Kay, why is that not surprising. Good catch.

  15. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    I suppose that is actually a very natural pose for the Slut – lifting her dress that is….

    • Russkaya
      October 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      She looks cheap. Did anyone read the letter about meho asking for free clothes from a boutique in New York? They bleeped her name but its clear its her. They said even Jlo pays for her clothes and leaves tips and this Z lister thinks she’s entitled to get the clothes free in exchange for advertising to her bought fans on twitter? She also left the conversation at the bottom making fun of her and her roided disgusting husband when they came into the boutique he said ” yeah babe you look like JLo” when she tried on the dresses. Too funny. And the supposed intern who sent the letter is either her or her hag sisters. She is a joke and they bashed her for returning clothes with stains. Probably joes poison and her fake spray tan. Basically they sent the letter as a beware of this biotch to other boutique owners to get the word out on her.She couldn’t be bothered to dry clean it first, I mean come on, that’s common courtesy, and if its not clean pay for it. Not meho though. She is the trashiest housewive of the entire franchise and everyone is laughing at her.

      Its so ridiculous and pathetic that shes always looking for free handouts, thats why the dress she chose looks so generic and cheap. Meho needs a serious reality check. Who the f does she think she is to ask for free expensive dresses designed just for her that no one else has worn on the red carpet? She actually said this in the letter. Oh and lifting the dress, its ill fitting maybe that’s why she’s pulling on the fabric. Either way its a fail and she looked like a cheap slut at the reunion, what do you expect from a ho.

      • October 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM

        I read it, and it IS clearly her. I also read elsewhere some time ago that she has a habit of returning clothes to stores stained with spray tan.

      • October 15, 2013 at 11:42 AM

        Where did you read this at? I believe it because TSIL has been called cheap by her ex-bff Jan Marie.

        • Russkaya
          October 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM

          I’m new to posting and I didn’t know if I could leave the link in my comment. I read it today over at SH and its clearly her. The giveaway is the disgusting husband comment and JLo look alike reference made by him when she was trying on clothes. The dress she wore at the reunion is in the comment section of the email. They talk about how she wanted a piece made specifically for her and something completely original and to send over ideas or email design sketches which they never did and forwarded the originial email she wrote or her “intern” to SH and other boutique owners to warn them about her not returning clothes and then they bash her for the dress she ended up wearing because its so generic. Its really disgusting how entitled she feels she is to getting for free what A listers are paying for. I think it’s recently posted, like a day or two ago. Even shop owners think she’s a joke and talk like that about her. I can post the link if you can’t find it and if its ok with Fame. I’m not sure if there are any rules about that.

          • October 15, 2013 at 4:11 PM

            More from the SH blog about Melissa expecting free stuff from designers and boutiques:

            We need to get message out to these Z List “Reality Stars” particularly a New Jersey “Housewife” who thinks she is entitled for whatever reason and expects people like myself in our industry to dress her for nothing.

            “you guys should never accept in exchange for service a shout out on social media. If a potential customer likes the look they will ask who is wearing it, who designed it and where to get it. always a red flag when a z list client wants something for free, don’t do it, please, we have to put a stop to this crap”

            ” guys, if someone does send it, explain WHY we are sending it. Normally would never out someone but _______ has screwed over so many people in our industry. Also explain that we have families and bills to pay too. Maybe this shit will stop after ______ and imbeciles like her stop expecting everything for free. We charge Heidi Klum, just saying, not name dropping”

            “I know, we provided pcs last year for Ms Lopez and she did not ask or expect anything for free. She just made sure to look at the label so she knew who it designed it. Ms Lopez left a very nice tip too. I wish these d listers would take notice from Ms Lopez. They don’t have to tip, just don’t act like we owe you anything or think by giving a shout out to your fake fans is doing us a favor”

            “OMG, _______ is always looking for the J-Lo look. Met ________ once, she tried on a few pieces and her gross husband was there, she came out and he said, yeah baby you look like J-Lo”

            I wonder which of Melissa’s semi-literate, man-faced sisters was the “intern” who emailed the request for freebies.

            http://stoopidhousewives.com/2013/10/14/sh-exclusive-not-so-blind-item-guess-the-rhonj-housewife/

          • October 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

            Thank-you, Russkaya! I read it! Wow, TSIL (Teresa’s Sister-In-Law, Melissa) has no shame when it comes to asking for free items. She uses her manipulative technique’s to make the boutique owner feel like they should be honored that TSIL wants to wear their clothing, for free, of course! I thought the comment about her iTune’s song’s not selling gave her away! I kind of feel embarrassed for her just because I think Antonia, Gina and Joey are so sweet and innocent to their mom’s fame whoring ways!

  16. Honnie Badger
    October 15, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Someone needs to tell Melissa that her knee is ashy. Funny, ’cause the rest of her is trashy. Ashy-trashy!

    • October 17, 2013 at 1:05 PM

      FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Anoneemouse
    October 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Teresa posted her blog on her personal website:

    RHONJ Reunion: I’m Stumped!

    October 14, 2013
    Hello Sweethearts!

    Took the girls to the pumpkin patch this weekend and Joe decorated our entire yard with Halloween decorations. I even got this amazing spider for the front door that literally keeps scaring me! I put a bunch of new photos below.

    Joe and I just got back from Boston where we were meeting with retailers about rolling out our new line of Fabulicious Desserts and Coffee. I’m so excited! It will be in stores this Spring! And the new formulation of Fabellini made in Italy will be in stores by the end of this month, including Costco! I can’t wait for you to try it. Send me pictures of you toasting the fabulous events in your life and I’ll add them to the Fabellini website. And check my website for my upcoming appearances: http://www.teresagiudice.com.

    Can you believe we’ve come to the end of Season 5? It blows my mind that when I started filming this show, I only had 3 little girls and Gia was just 7 years old! So much has changed since then. I had my beautiful Audriana, who’s now in preschool. Gia is almost a teenager. Lots of ups and downs but that’s life. And I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

    We’re almost at 100 episodes for RHONJ. Hey Andy, when do we get our special? Looks like I’m the OG from NJ. Who would’ve thought? I was so quiet during Season 1. Well, until that whole table flip thing…

    And I just counted, this is my 97th blog! 97 blogs. Insanity. It’s funny to go back and read old ones. It’s like reading my diary or something. They’re not always fun or easy to write, but they are honest about how I was feeling at the time. My favorite is still the Felicitations blog. I cannot believe they let me get away with that, but a girl’s gotta have her fun. Haters gonna hate, but I just love love love!

    Alright, so how do we close out this season? I’m sorry to say that we didn’t close it out on the Reunion exactly how we did in real life. There’s a lot of footage to go through since we taped for 15 hours, but happily we did end with a lot of love and peace and forgiveness. I’m really proud of everyone, myself included, for that. We’ve all been through a lot together, and I think we’ve all grown and learned from our mistakes.

    My “final words” last night were NOT final words about the season and not at the end of the Reunion after we’d all made up, but final words about what we all talked about with Dr. V. Right after Dr. V. left, there was still some confusion about the argument between me and Caroline and I wanted to make sure it was set right. Caroline does a great job of putting words in other people’s mouths. One time in reference to her actually being older than the rest of us, I said she was “older.” She twists that around and says I said “you’re old and you only have a few good years left.” Um what? I express how happy I am to see hope for Jacqueline’s and my friendship, and Caroline says, “You said Jacqueline is your only true friend.” No I did not. I usually don’t care, but I’m not going to have her, of all people, call me a liar.

    Truth be told, I really don’t care that she called me “superficial” — not anymore anyway — but the day I saw it on the episode it bothered me because she is a faker. Fine. So I wrote in my blog that she puts on a front and her and Albert were really miserable the whole time. The funny thing is it wasn’t even on my Bravo blog, but on my personal website blog. I didn’t think she read my website, and I certainly didn’t expect her to bring it up at the Reunion and get so dramatic about it. It wasn’t a lie and she knows it. She is miserable every single trip we take and yes, we’ve all seen her fighting with Albert. She did it in Italy, in Napa, everywhere. It’s not like I said (or ever would say!) someone was cheating or anything. I was just pointing out that she’s not as honest as she pretends to be about her feelings, so she shouldn’t judge others.

    And I don’t know why she took my comment as such a big deal though because it’s not. All married couples fight. We all just don’t work so hard to pretend we don’t. That was my problem, that she’s so quick to pass judgment on everyone else’s marriage and finances and even our emotions, when she isn’t honest about herself. Remember the whole “You heard it here first” comment from her about me and Joe? She had numerous times to take it back and refused. Fine, that’s who she is. I just wanted to let her know that I don’t play her game. But I am big enough to see that the whole thing is petty and stupid, and I did apologize directly to her.

    I didn’t love that she was talking about my finances on the Reunion, but at the time which you didn’t get to see, Joe defended me immediately, and I defended myself. I do work hard and make my own money. You haven’t seen my husband buy me an Hermes bag or brag about fancy cars. We’re really not like that. We bought our house for $500,000 and we’ve lived in it for 12 years. We took a “used” house and fixed it up. We’ve both of us worked hard every single day.

    Anyway, I would never go backwards at the end of the Reunion when everything was settled and good to bring up the Caroline “superficial” comment again. Believe me, I’m not that superficial! Caroline and I hashed it all out like you’re supposed to do at a Reunion, and then it was over. Why it was moved to look like I brought it up again, like I was harping on it, is beyond me. I’m stumped! I wish they could’ve left the Reunion as it really was: we were all at peace with each other and happy.

    I was kind of hoping that Danielle or Kim D. or Dina or even Penelope Cruz would have come out when Andy was teasing us. I would like to see everything resolved with everyone. But I guess that’s for Season 6…

    Again, from the very bottom of my heart, thank you to everyone for sticking by us and lifting us up with your prayers and good wishes. It means the world to me. Visit me on Twitter @Teresa_Giudice and my website http://www.teresagiudice.com to stay in touch! I love love love you all!

    Tanti Baci,
    Teresa xx

    • October 15, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      Can someone help me? How can they have lived in the used/redone house for 12 years when we saw them move in it? Confused.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 15, 2013 at 6:12 PM

        I wondered about that, too. I know that they purchased it in 2001, but I don’t think they moved in right away. The house needed to be completed renovated.

        • mzjulesaz
          October 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM

          Lived in for 12 years just caught my mind. It doesn’t add up for me.

          • Miami53
            October 15, 2013 at 6:28 PM

            When we saw the house for the first time…it was almost done. So maybe by the time they purchased it, gut it and started it plus lived there, it could be 12 years.

            • LifeIsGood
              October 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM

              They’ve owned it for 12 years, but I thought they moved in much later – after the renovations.

            • mzjulesaz
              October 15, 2013 at 7:07 PM

              How do you a gut a house while living in it … it doesn’t add up for me. 12 years ago they may have purchased it, but lived there not buying that story.

              • October 15, 2013 at 8:45 PM

                It is possible they bought the house, lived in it for a few years while planning the “redo”, moved out while it was being remodelled, and then moved back in.

                My daughter just went through that – it took a year and she moved into a rental while the work was being done.

                Sidenote – Remember Melissa’s card – “Congratulations on your ‘redone’ home!” 😉

                • mzjulesaz
                  October 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM

                  I remember that … but it still doesn’t add up in my head based upon what they showed on the show.

              • Sackem
                October 15, 2013 at 8:48 PM

                I think I read somewhere that they were in Patterson or something before this house. Maybe she means they lived in their first home for that period of time then they jumped into something bigger that then renovated.

  18. Russkaya
    October 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Three new housewives next season. Dina and two new ones. Twin sisters. I wonder if they’re friends with TSIL.

    • October 15, 2013 at 2:11 PM

      For me, and with all due respect to all who feel differently, I am not going to hold my breath until Bravo makes the official cast announcement.

      The last two seasons were fraught with speculation and rumor and NONE of them were right. For Season 4 everyone was sure Jacs had been fired Season 5 was supposed to bring a shake up with Jennifer Dalton, Teresa’s make-up artist Priscilla DiStasio, and Elvira Grau the owner of Space Odyssey were all supposedly in the running. Well, we all saw how that turned out. Jennifer Dalton had maybe two(?) very short appearances and Priscilla was shown once doing Teresa’s make-up in another.

      Now with Season 6, rumors abound Dina is coming back, there are twin sisters being vetted for the show, and Jacs may not be back.

      Right now, there are only two things I do know with certainty – the first being Joe Giudice’s DUI trial is scheduled to begin October 28th (will that finally happen or will that be postponed once again?!), and the second is Caroline, along with her “thick as thieves fambly”, will not be back – thankfully.

      And those are the only things I believe at this point. 😉

      • October 15, 2013 at 3:43 PM

        I agree!

      • Russkaya
        October 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM

        I think you’re right Jeannie. At least Caroline is gone!

    • Miami53
      October 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM

      I read also that it suppose to be Dina and the twins along with Tre and TSIL. Jacko is gone and Kathy part time. I can’t imagine what “REAL” story line TB is going to have. He won’t be able to socialize with the Manzo/Laurita. Chicklets will be part time….thank goodness, no nasty things out of his mouth.

    • October 15, 2013 at 3:30 PM

      Is Dina alone enough to revive the show? I say no. Now Dina and Danielle would be a wise choice, but when has Bravo ever made a wise choice. And why Dina would want to get involved with Bravo after seeing how down and dirty they are, is beyond me. If the Wakile pustules are back, I’m out.

      • Russkaya
        October 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

        I want Danielle back too.

    • NCGal
      October 15, 2013 at 5:27 PM

      It won’t matter to me if the Gorgas are still on. Not trying to sound like Caroline (sanctimonious) but I can’t anymore with them. Not after the book, and Bravo’s silence on the comments made by Joe Gorga.

      I blocked Bravo from my TV when all of that happened. I know I’m only one person but I can’t support a network that thinks so little of it’s viewers, the majority of which are women.

      And where I used to find the Gorgas unpleasant, I now find them disturbing and actually repulsive.

      (climbs down from high horse……)

      • Maze
        October 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

        +1000

  19. Patricia
    October 15, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    OT it is so so sad… went and watched the group trip to Italy in season 2.. Seeing Al playing with Tre’s kids as they were baby sitting them on the cruise ship.. totally tragic to see where they are now..

    • October 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

      Yes I loved that trip, but Caroline was miserable there as well.

  20. Kay
    October 15, 2013 at 2:39 PM

  21. Miami53
    October 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    I can’t believe she said that the Manzo’s were a good family and they don’t need to have the curse on them…something like that…what a crock of sh$t!!! The Waklie are a gorgeous family all four of them. LOL!

    • October 15, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      I can’t stand that chick. I don’t get why people like her.

    • GPM
      October 15, 2013 at 4:04 PM

      But in Wendy’s defense — ****choking**** — she did go on to say Caroline should not go on to another show but just get off TV altogether!

      I’m just stuck on how much their dresses and necklines resemble each other.

      And regarding TSIL, I don’t think she looks like JLo — I think she looks like Wendy! I saw two pictures of them side by side and, as TSIL’s hair has gotten lighter, I thought the resemblance was AMAZING!

      NOTE TO WENDY: The reason Rosie has trouble getting “chicks” is because she threatens to cut people’s tongues out. Seriously, as a mother would you let our daughter date a man — or a woman — who would threaten something like that? And that’s not even considering the drinking or the stupid.

      • October 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

        I noticed her mimicking Wendy when she and TB were on the show. Surely Wendy picked up on it. I have to wonder if her father was a fan of Natlie Wood and Sophia Loren. TB may be a fan of Jlo. I found it creepy that she copied Teresa’s voice, dress, and things for the children. She absorbs personalities.

        The fact that TB has sex with her when he is angry with his sister makes the copycat thing freaky. I sure hope the rape fantasies don’t involve these people TSIL mimicks. I would question if she her identity is stuck in her past with her father and a couch after school. I would question if that is why she is angry with her mother. No offense just ramblin my thoughts. These peeps have no boundaries.

      • jeanbean
        October 15, 2013 at 9:39 PM

        I really mean this in the nicest way but Rosie is just sloppy. She is loud, crude, abrasive,sloppy,drunk and even if she loses weight what will change. Girl you need to bring something to the table to attract lovely girls. It would be like cristopher expecting to date a model. (or girl for that matter)

  22. October 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Me either.

  23. Miami53
    October 15, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    REALLY< REALLY OT…I keep seeing the letters FEBUS on sites when they talk about Chuckies family…what does it stand for?

    • GPM
      October 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM

      I suppose you would have to look at the context of how it’s being used to interpret it’s meaning, but I think it’s slang for “F**k everybody but us.”

      Since the Manzos are kind of repulsive, I suspect it’s the Manzos family credo, i.e., F you! We don’t care if you don’t like us; we’re perfectly happy hanging around with our mother!

      • October 15, 2013 at 6:01 PM

        Last year or even the year before that, i am not quite sure the Manzaloids started using the hashtag #FEBUS on all of their smug little tweets to each other. It went on for a while and somebody called them out on it and Caroline being the lying wild boar that she is said it meant something like “faith, energy, bedbugs, ukelele, saints.” Or something really comical. People wouldn’t drop it so Lapband sent out a tweet that said, “You people are going to feel really stupid when you see how innocent the word febus is. It will be used in the upcoming season which has already been taped.” Of course, no such thing happened.

        • October 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM

          And even if they had had shown the “fake” meaning we all know what it mans.

        • Russkaya
          October 16, 2013 at 8:00 AM

          Wow, didn’t know that. Thanks for that , their unappeal just keeps increasing. I see that febus attached to anything manzo and now I know why.

    • Mrs. Noogent
      October 15, 2013 at 4:20 PM

      According to the Urban Dictionary:

      febus
      A physically repulsive cunt-faced female co-worker.

      Caroline raised such nice kids didn’t she?

      • LifeIsGood
        October 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

        They made up the “F everybody but us” when they were called out for using FEBUS. They really expected people to believe that it was a coincidence and they did not realize what FEBUS meant. #Liars

        • October 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM

          Regardless of if they knew what the urban definition was, their definition of it says a lot about their lack of character.

          • LifeIsGood
            October 15, 2013 at 6:44 PM

            agreed!

      • Grand-Beth
        October 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM

        FEBUS……..also, always has a distorted self-image……..

        I would say that fits the Manzos perfectly!!!!!!

        • October 16, 2013 at 11:02 AM

          Speaking of a distorted self-image, I found this earlier this morning.

          http://www.carolinemanzo.com/2013/10/caroline-appears-on-dr-oz/img_0500/

          I really do not like to comment on the way a person looks, however, if I owned a beauty bar, appeared in a reality series and were to make and appearance on Dr. Oz, I would make an effort to look better. She really looks frumpy and skin showing at her age is not a good look.

          • October 16, 2013 at 9:01 PM

            Thank you moma, I’m like you when it comes to commenting in a negative about someone’s appearance.. What you say is so true. Lauren isn’t much better. My hair is very fine and really straight, it clings to my head. lol But I take the time to put a little wave in it before leaving the house.

  24. Miami53
    October 15, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    There is a video on SH and it shows this young woman confronting TB and Chuckie wants to get out of there fast and Rosie starts getting mad….is there a way to download to this site. I can’t understand what the woman is saying.

    • October 15, 2013 at 5:24 PM

      There isn’t a way to download it, Miami53, so please post the link 🙂

  25. Miami53
    • black enga
      October 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM

      WOW!!!! Rosie and Rich-Chum are real pieces of garbage! Melissa was instantly on alert when this woman named Maria walked up to Joe haaaa haaaa ha. jealous much.

      • October 16, 2013 at 4:04 AM

        I just watched that video! I don’t like violence but I’d like to hear that Richie was knocked out by a man after cussing out his mother/ aunt/ sister/ wife/ daughter! Richie had no right running his mouth at Maria. From what I seen, TB was in the wrong because he was quick to apologize to Maria. Once again, Kathy jumps into someone else’s argument to gang up on them! She’s such a coward, so is her husband and Rosie better watch out. She’s going to freak out around the wrong people and may get hurt or get thrown in jail for assault. I hope the rumor’s are true and Kathy was demoted to a “friend of the housewives”. I hope that demotion includes no filming of her immediate family, beside’s Rosie. I think Rosie is the one who saved Kathy from being fired from the show. Hopefully, Rosie will go soon.

        • October 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM

          ceeee I totally agree with you about Rosie saving Kathy’s butt. Andy likes Rosie so that’s why Kathy still has her part time position and that is the ONLY reason.

    • October 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

      This is a preview for the next lost footage episode. I think the audio is a little better from this link:

      Walking Away From Trouble
      Caroline tries to get the entire group to walk away from what may be another blow up.

      http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-5/videos/walking-away-from-trouble

      There is a confrontation between a woman and TB – he apparently talked badly about Teresa and she called him out on it.

      • Miami53
        October 15, 2013 at 6:23 PM

        Did you see the video of Lapband’s new boobies….Sushi Lookers really enjoyed touching them!!

        • Patricia
          October 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM

          saw it,, just creepy… just creepy……

      • Miami53
        October 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM

        But who is this woman in the Pink dress…is she a friend of Tre’s….like I said Chuckie couldn’t get out of there fast enough.

        • Russkaya
          October 16, 2013 at 8:02 AM

          I think it’s Maria. Joeys old gf or crush. They all grew up together. I could be wrong but it was talked about on another site.

      • October 15, 2013 at 7:16 PM

        So Teresa might get a little vindication? I can’t watch until later on my home puter.

      • October 15, 2013 at 11:06 PM

        They are all such shitbags.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 16, 2013 at 7:12 AM

        It appears that Caroline knows her – she kept calling her by her first name (Maria)

      • October 16, 2013 at 8:02 AM
        • October 16, 2013 at 8:22 AM

          Thank you ceeeseee for this!! I remember this being blogged about now – there were so many events filmed that didn’t make the cut!

          P.S. When I lived in Jersey, I attended an event at Il Tulipano and, at that time, it was very good but that was a long time ago! And my daughter’s favorite flower is the tulip so when it was time to plan her wedding, she really considered having her reception there but after she saw another place, the Pleasantdale Chateau – there was no going back.

          • October 16, 2013 at 12:52 PM

            I remember the Jewelry launch party being blogged about, too. I wonder if the reason Bravo/ Sirens didn’t show that scene was due to blogger’s/viewer’s questioning if TB was really admitted to the hospital? I was reading some of the comments from the above links and someone pointed out the TB/Tre argument happened a week (I think) after Gia’s birthday party. The party that TSIL was caught fibbing about when she visited her FIL who was really in the hospital. You know what, I really don’t care why they didn’t show it because this whole season was a big lie! I hope Bravo/ Siren’s now realise that making TSIL’s skanky past the storyline hurt their credibility with all the lie’s they had to cover up! That’s what they get when they hire a pathological liar!

          • Elena
            October 16, 2013 at 7:07 PM

            I got married at the Pleasentdale Chateau too. It was gorgeous. My 13th anniversary was yesterday.

            I used to love this show because being Italian American from Northern NJ, there was some truth to the actions of these characters. They made me think of people I knew and amused me. Even though I knew it was fake, I hung on bc I loved the hint of truth in the behind the scenes. Now it’s just really sad.

            • October 16, 2013 at 9:12 PM

              Happy belated anniversary Elena

            • October 16, 2013 at 9:18 PM

              Well, congratulations and I hope your anniversary was a happy one!!! 🙂

              • Elena
                October 16, 2013 at 10:13 PM

                Thank you!

    • October 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

      I never watch those videos but I did because you posted it. Near the very end, did Caroline yell out “Maria!” or did she say something else?

      • Darkwysper
        October 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM

        Yes she did agirl614

        • October 15, 2013 at 9:13 PM

          Yeah, I read the comments after I posted. Thank you!

  26. Kay
    October 15, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    Fame you are right it is not a coincidence…..she is soooooo creepy…..Melissa is the single white female.

    • mc
      October 15, 2013 at 7:47 PM

      That is exactly how I think of MEHO. She frightens me.

    • Patricia
      October 15, 2013 at 8:14 PM

      thinking the same thing Kay…. 🙂 at least Jlo doesn’t live next or near to Meho,,, creepiest thing is to have a new neighbor move in and constantly wanting to hang out or come over.. Didn’t mind that she suddenly got draft horses like mine, and the same breed of geese and chickens then saying she is a dog breeder,, (I’m not but had a pack of GSDs as demo dogs for training) “it’s all cool we live in the country” but when she showed up with her hair dyed red like my natural hair color.. I was a bit creep-ed out….

      • October 15, 2013 at 9:20 PM

        My mom had a friend like that. Copied her hairstyle and color. Bought the same car, three different times. Would buy things for her son that my mom bought for me, whether or not they were feminine. We told my mom but she refused to believe she had a SBF (single black female) situation until the friend crossed a line. Is your neighbor still copying you?

        • Patricia
          October 15, 2013 at 9:57 PM

          she was a real sociopath, people who I didn’t even know were angry and nasty at me in our small town, stuff like I was cross breeding gsds with pits and selling them for fighting. The few friends I had avoided me. Stuff around my house were happening my animals were getting sick and some suddenly needed emergency assistance to pass over.. I was dump founded for awhile of “what is happening” Until I caught her and her husband sneaking on my property at 11pm when they thought I wasn’t home.. Everything flashed through my head of all the events in the past two years. They had a we were worried about neighbor excuse, but it sent a chill through me. because she fell to her knees crying, but she don’t love me like that , she crying because they got caught….. Once I filed the paper work implicating her family directly by name for the damage to my truck to include the Automatic breaking system being pulled off the vehicle twice… They were packed up and gone in the middle of the night in 3 weeks.. But the hateful lies she spread of me attacking her and her kids still linger on in the town.. And I helped her, she was always asking me to help her, drive here, use my phone, if I had extra stuff and so forth…

          one of her kids she saids is autistic (that is a story in its self as she brags about fighting the doctors who said he wasn’t,, and it took 10 doctors until she found one that would agree the kid was autistic) which she gets government funding for but the kid never receives any learning assistance..

          so highly relate and feel the pain Tre has to face in these story lines..still don’t feel completely the same even though they have been gone for almost 3 years, ..

          • October 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

            Wow – that is absolutely awful Patricia – and scary. I am so sorry you went through something like that. Your situation was even worse than Teresa’s. I hope you do feel completely “okay” eventually. That is just terrible and I wish I could give you a hug (((Patricia)))

            • Patricia
              October 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM

              Thanks Jeannie appreciate, always a work in progress to get rid of the panic attacks to leave my animals when I need to run into tow.. but you keep going.. ,, Please Please everyone listen to your gut, listen to those red flags..

          • October 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

            Good Lord, that is frightening! I’m sorry you went through that.

            • Patricia
              October 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM

              thank you… Hard lesson to learn..

          • Lady Heather
            October 16, 2013 at 7:37 PM

            Patricia, I’m so sorry these things happened to you. I wish you the best of luck getting your life back on track and am sending lots of good wishes and love your way. I had a friend who always copied me when I was in primary school, it turned out that her mum was obsessed with her daughter being like me and with her being my best friend. Once when I was at ballet lessons with my actual best friend (I must have been about 7yrs old) her mother turned up to the ballet lesson and walked into the class and attacked my actual best friend and pulled her hair screaming that I should be best friends with her daughter instead. She was obviously thrown out of the class and the police were called, but she ran out before the police got there and drove home with her daughter in the car and drove all over my neighbours’ lawn (as she was unable to drive all over our lawn as where we lived then our lawn was up a bank with a little wall) screaming out the car window. Since then I have been very cautious of people who try to copy me, although it was her mother who was really the one copying. From my experience people who go to such extremes to copy definately have mental health issues, and definately need to be avoided, melissa included.

          • October 16, 2013 at 8:42 PM

            Oh, Patricia, I just saw this (as I have been busy and reading the condensed comments only), I am so sorry for you. As far as the “friends” who avoided you, they were not really your friends. Be happy to be rid of your copy cat, as well as those “friends”.

            Love and prayers to you and your family.

            • October 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM

              How terrible Patricia. So sorry for you and your pets, this is beyond terrible. Will be praying for you.

              • Patricia
                October 17, 2013 at 12:00 AM

                Thank you @ Lady Heather, mommajackie, Gloria .for the well wishes.. Always good people in the world and I love being here with everyone ..Always makes my day 🙂

  27. October 15, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    i don’t know if anyone else noticed that but if i recall correctly, in the lost footage episode, mel compliments a dress that’s coming down the runway that looks a LOT like her reunion dress. maybe that’s where she stole this reunion dress idea from? (ps hi. longtime lurker, first time poster, bigtime fan 🙂 )

    • October 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM

      Hello claudialusbyudialusby – welcome and so glad you made yourself known!!!

      • October 16, 2013 at 12:22 AM

        thanks! i figured, i spend enough time on here, i may as well contribute/participate!

        • Lady Heather
          October 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM

          Hi claudia, very pleased to make your acquaintance. x x x

        • October 16, 2013 at 9:22 PM

          Welcome Claudia, please comment more often.

  28. Sackem
    October 15, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    There’s alot of buzz in the press here about the Shutdown of America. What are you guys facing? Is it headed toward the GFC 2?

    • October 15, 2013 at 7:13 PM

      The people are getting pissed and pretty soon, if they don’t fix soon it we could see a new war on American soil. Get off their party boxes and do what is right for America! I’ll get off of my soap box now before Fame bans me.

      It’s bad and for stupid political who has the bigger balls reasons vs. doing what is right. UGH.

      • October 15, 2013 at 9:11 PM

        Exactly Jules…both parties are corrupt and neither are working for the American people.

    • Miss Alicat
      October 15, 2013 at 8:12 PM

      People blaming the President obviously failed civics and should not be taken seriously. If you are unhappy with the state of the government, vote in new senators & state representatives, since they make the laws and write the checks on who gets paid. The tea party GOP darlings wanted “less government” and are willing to drive us over the fiscal cliff to get it. It’s bad, if you have money in a stock-based 401k, you might want to take a loan to yourself tomorrow or move it into a non-stock based item. I pulled out what I could but expect to lose probably close to 20k if they don’t make a deal in the next 24 hours.

      • October 15, 2013 at 8:39 PM

        I will take it one step further … e-mail them daily (your house and senate and Obama).

      • black enga
        October 15, 2013 at 9:14 PM

        Thank you

    • October 15, 2013 at 8:58 PM

      Sackem, our government sucks. I am NOT an Obama fan, but those that put the blame squarely on Obama, or one party over the other, are, in my opinion, ignorant. Our government is corrupt and they are NOT working for the American public. Our media has an agenda as well and we have been lied to and never get the full story on anything. Our politicians have been bought and paid for. We ARE headed for another Global Financial Crisis…

      Check out this guy’s rant…I think he’s pretty spot on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1lJd2eLG0M If the link doesn’t work search for Dylan Ratigan on youtube

      • black enga
        October 15, 2013 at 9:20 PM

        I try not to get into politics on forums because it just starts arguments but what he said is true.

        • October 15, 2013 at 9:54 PM

          George Carlin’s 2005 stand-up, “Life Is Worth Losing”

          Discussions about politics and religion can end friendships… so all I have to say is, George Carlin was right.

          Transcript here: http://shoqvalue.com/george-carlin-on-the-american-dream-with-transcript/

          George Carlin died of heart failure at a Los Angeles-area hospital on June 23, 2008. He was 71.

          • October 15, 2013 at 10:08 PM

            Loved George Carlin and still do – a man of insight and funny to boot. Here is a classic quote that pertains to the dumbing down of society, i.e. Bravo’s programming:

            “If it’s true that our species is alone in the universe, then I’d have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little.”. . . .George Carlin

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM

            His monologues are timeless, biting and brilliant

          • LifeIsGood
            October 16, 2013 at 7:21 AM

            I agree, Fame.

            Given the toxic nature of our current political culture, perhaps we should all agree that it is Teresa’s fault and move on…

      • Grand-Beth
        October 16, 2013 at 9:43 AM

        I just got a letter today that I could not keep 4 of my doctors anymore. My husband has to take out a policy that has OBGYN in it ( I didn`t know men could have a baby ) and both of our premiums on healthcare went up $1,000. I don`t know how we are going to pay for healthcare now. I thought we could keep our Doctors and health plans if we liked them. Whats happening?

        • Grand-Beth
          October 16, 2013 at 9:53 AM

          Also, my daughter was just cut to 30 hours and has 2 degrees. she was paying $199.00 a month for healthcare and now it`s going up to $899.00. she said she will just have to pay the penalty of $95.00 because she can`t afford to pay. But she was told they will just take her income tax at the end of the year. My brother has to work 3 part-time jobs to get 40 hours to support his family and I have no idea how they will afford healthcare. This is getting bad.

          • GPM
            October 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM

            I’m confused, Grand-Beth. Who did you get a letter from, your current insurance carrier? And who is your daughter’s carrier — I think it’s against the law for them to penalize your daughter with a huge premium increase like that!

            I guess our family is one of the beneficiaries — our daughter aged out of our health insurance several years ago and, because she has a relatively small pre-existing condition, insurance companies refused to cover her. And coverage for her through our state’s high-risk pool was over $900 a month! But health insurance is really necessary as most doctors simply will not accept you as a patient without it.

            Obamacare also gives my husband the option of retiring before age 65; he qualifies for his work pension already but continues to work simply so that we can get health insurance. I know that there are some young guns who would love a promotion into his position and the fact that he’s no longer tied to his employer by health insurance would really make that possible — a win-win for everybody!

            Our daughter’s premium under Obamacare should go down to slightly over $200 a month through the federal exchange and that includes coverage for her young son. Your daughter might want to shop around instead of sticking with her same carrier. If she’s young and healthy, maybe a Bronze plan purchased through the exchange would work for her? You might want to shop around through the exchange for yourself and your husband as well!

            As for your brother, he will almost certainly qualify for the tax credits that offset a substantial amount of the cost. (Indeed, your daughter may qualify as well; mine does!) I’ve noticed that a lot of the material out there talks about the monthly cost but fails to mention the tax credits that actually reduce the monthly cost to something FAR more affordable.

            The promise of Obamacare has been nothing but a huge blessing and relief to our family. I’ll be praying that your family is able to negotiate the system so that it’s actually better for you all as well! .

            • Lady Heather
              October 16, 2013 at 8:42 PM

              My god if I had been living in America, with all my current (and some incurable) health issues, I would have been dead by now as I can’t work at all at the mo and haven’t been for a while and would have had no way to pay for insurance or treatment.

            • Wilbur
              October 16, 2013 at 9:53 PM

              The problem is that obama’s cronies including congress were all exempted from this law. Companies are forcing people off their roles onto the exchanges and Obama was NOT truthful when he said we can keep our doctors. It’s not true. Premiums are going up across the board and the chosen people are exempt. If this was so good, why did they give millions of exemptions to obama’s supporters? It’s a mess that includes tax increases on the middle class, another Obama lie.

            • Grand-Beth
              October 16, 2013 at 11:22 PM

              Thanks GPM,
              Medicare is what my husband is on. BCBS is my retirement insurance. My daughter was Aetna and my brother has none now But trying to get the kids in the federal exchange. Medicaid says they do not qualify because he is working (3 part-time jobs ). I know there seems to be a lot of help for some people But the ones who are trying to work just can not get the help. I know people who do not have jobs but get a lot of food stamps and help Medical help with their kids. It is so frustrating to feel like you have to beg or lie on an application. One Medicaid worker told my brother if they sold the extra car ( that stays broke down ) it would lower their assets to qualify for $48 in food stamps for a family of 5. I just pray America gets better for people trying to survive.

      • suedechik79
        October 16, 2013 at 9:17 PM

        Rothschilds rule the world. Washington DC, the Vatican, and London are the 3 world centers. And Rothschilds identify themselves as Askenazi Jewish, and have ties to funding both sides of every war dating back hundreds and hundreds of years.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      October 15, 2013 at 9:30 PM

      We are in the situation we are because of the structure of our government. Modern western governments tend to be parlimentary democracies. Parties are duly elected, and are able to govern without much interference. Having our two houses (Senate and House of Representatives) set up differently also causes problems. State Senators represent the whole of the state – all of the population (each state gets 2). The House is made up of representatives of very party specific sections of each state. The districts these folks represent are quite often gerrymandered. Right now we have a situation where a small percentage of House Representatives are driving a narrative. They arent clear what it is.

      Politics is normally one of the topics I avoid like the plague in public forums. But this time I have lost my mind over this. I am a *lifelong* Republican who is furious at the direction my party has taken. As someone who lives in a country with a public health service, you might find it difficult to understand that this boils down to a war against providing health insurance to folks who dont have any. We have a law that is on the book and was determined to be constitutional by our Supreme Court. The Republicans want to eliminate the law, but have yet to offer *any* concrete proposal to help give health care to the uninsured.

      The actions (or lack thereof) taken by the House look to cost me (through investment losses) almost $1.5 million though business and investment losses so far since the shut down so I have a *very* personal interest in this. My husband and I have worked *damned* hard to get where we are and resent what is being done to our Republic.

      *vent over*

      • black enga
        October 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM

        I really appreciate you sharing that with us Saddle, I lost my business in mid 2011, have not recovered from the losses. I hope thing turns around for all of our sakes.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM

          One of the things that make this site so special is that we all can accept that we all might have differences and we respect each other. I’ll keep a prayer going for you that in the coming year you rebound like a phoenix.

          • black enga
            October 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM

            Thank you Saddle and I will do the same, God Bless You!

          • Grand-Beth
            October 16, 2013 at 11:39 PM

            Saddle….
            I love your stories and this site and the HOPE we share for each other….

      • October 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        I know so many people affected by this and have been praying for the shutdown to end. I don’t know you but I’ll add you to the list. For what it’s worth, you did a lovely summary and with way less venom than I would have. This whole situation is infuriating but I’m just going to bite my tongue when it comes to some of these comments. I get to vent on other websites. 🙂

      • Sackem
        October 16, 2013 at 2:15 AM

        Wow, thankyou all!!! I just didn’t understand the crux of the issue and yes if it is health, it is mind boggling because health and education is a right. We have a public and private system and not all Dr’s “bulk bill” so it comes down to the haves and have nots but care is available to all. Eg my Gyno for Ava cost $4000, considered to be out of pocket ie non claimable but my scans etc I could claim back a percentage through Medicare. I think all up I claimed about $6000 worth of bits a pieces and got almost $2000 back (paediatricians, anethathist, etc) but we pay about $400/ month into a private fund so I could choose my hospital and only paid $200 out of pocket. Theatre food etc was part of my cover. It was like a 4 star hotel with double beds, private room, nurse on call who would see you within ten mins etc. had I have gone to a public hospital, paid for out of our taxes via the Medicare levy, I couldn’t choose my doctor, have to share rooms, less nurses/midwives per patients but in most case still good quality care. Obviously, you hear your horror stories but I’d say that it’d be one out of ten for maternity. There are wait lists and outrage for other services, there’s always stuff about wages for nurses and Ambos but if you’re critical, you get seen.

        • Laram
          October 16, 2013 at 3:17 AM

          I think that it is unfortunate that American’s, and the world are controlled by the dogma history of the past.

          My father raised me in politics. I am aware of both sides’ issues. My mother raised me Catholic, as did both sides of our family, however, I learned to question that authority.

          What I relentlessly defend and work for, is justice and human rights. Not greed, from corporations, governments, religions ruining it all, for consumption.

          It is a sad world when our environment goes to shit for our lifestyles, under a few getting wealthy, and with that..the children are not educated correctly; people have no adequate health care, and forced to eat cheap unheathly foods (McDonald’s, Dollar General, etc), instead of the few organic meals that aren’t really Organic bc of impesticides and hormones. We drive SUV’s bc we want our families to be safe, but we allow Oil companies and governments to not build and create more mass transportation and light rails to go to and from. Cheap housing is built daily ruining agriculture and the environment bc the lower to middle class can also have granite counters and hardwoods.

          The bottom line is America learned from our European ancestors and founders to deplete the land, use it’s resources, and others and we are all interconnected. But no family, espscially single mother’s with children should go without healthcare, and decent education and nutrition, period! Espscially, in the so called super power, USA.

          Government needs to get it’s ego, and self interests out of way and concentrate on people. That is why I was an Obama Fellow in past election, but I am disenchanted all around with Human Rights not being put before Big Commerce! My ex-husband feels the same and is trying to change it as an analyst and attorney at Chevron, amd my current hisband as retired Navy!

          • Laram
            October 16, 2013 at 3:20 AM

            Apologizing ahead for my spelling, and not for my passion.

            Special Interests founded this Country, but we need to remember Human Rights for all, not just in America, but Globally!!! What each does effects all of us.

            • Laram
              October 16, 2013 at 3:20 AM

              Please read @Sackem!

              • Laram
                October 16, 2013 at 3:27 AM

                And trust me, the damn Congressional shit down has left us with no food in fridge! Not right bc of fighting of democrats and republicans, and those wanting Obama to fail!!!

                • suedechik79
                  October 16, 2013 at 9:29 PM

                  The fighting is a farce, and the people actually in power of all these plans (boards like the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg conferences plan 50-100 years in advance) think people like us are DIRT. They could care less about feeding people. In fact, there is a population reduction effort in effect right now, has been for years. AIDS was engineered to do this. Vaccines and flu shots have extras in them that can be activated and make you deathly ill at any time (ever wonder why they are low to no cost?) Radiation treatment for cancer may kill/shrink the tumor, but it will activate noncancerous cells around the tumor to become cancerous in the future.

                  People in propaganda run countries have one up on America – they KNOW the stuff they read and the things the TV tells us are lies. Americans still believe they can find the truth in the newspaper, learn history in school, and have politicians that care about them.

                  Politicians are lower than low. Politics was never meant as a full time job. The shutdown is a JOKE, a distraction or an excuse for something greater. Obamacare was never about health care – it was about the largest transfer of power to the executive branch in the history of this country. It was passed through back room deals and blackmail in the first place. Now the American people don’t want it, and they are putting on a show to keep us in our places thinking, “Oh, someone is fighting for us, we will meet in the middle, yay!” Its not about meeting in the middle. We never even seceded from England! Try finding that in one of our history books. We LOST that war of independence. We are merely a corporate extension of the country, which should explain why British royalty is constantly visiting and plastered all over our tabloids. The real 13th Amendment to the constitution is a pledge to never call the ruler of America king or queen….because we already have a royal family. The president is merely a CEO.

                  • October 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM

                    I really prefer the MeHo, RHONJ talk, so I do not comment much on the politic issues, nor the news media. I totally agree with you. If you have not already, you need to read Dr. Mary’s Monkey and Me and Lee.

                    • Grand-Beth
                      October 16, 2013 at 11:58 PM

                      moma

                      I had to start on something FUNNY so I am reading another Janet Evanovich book. I have read all her Stephanie Plum series……This one is Notorious Nineteen.

              • Sackem
                October 16, 2013 at 7:01 AM

                I read it Laram and I understand your passion!

      • wisconsheepgirl
        October 16, 2013 at 6:20 AM

        Saddle, not really being snarky at all but I have often wondered if we as Americans returned back to a monarchy which our forefathers originally hailed from. But I’m sure our U.K., Canadian and Aussie fame-ly will disagree. Very interesting post. Alot to ponder and chew on, and thank you for the time you took to write a well thought out ‘rant’. Rant any day!!

      • GPM
        October 16, 2013 at 1:03 PM

        I know exactly what you mean when you say you have lost your mind over this, Saddle — I feel exactly the same way!

        I live in a red state – a really, really red state — that is so predominantly Republican that the only political disputes are between moderate Republicans and “conservative” Republicans.

        (I put “conservative” in quotes because, while they call themselves conservatives, I’m no so sure how conservative they are; some of these people act more like bomb-throwing anarchists to me!)

        The nation can thank our state for electing one of the craziest Republicans in Washington today — so crazy that even the Republicans in Washington think he’s crazy. And yes, he represents my district. (Aaaaaagh, the shame of it!) Candidly, I think he kind of came of nowhere and was elected by people who simply go into the booth and vote the party line.

        I would so love to tell you not to worry, that we’re on the case here on the ground and we’ll be sending someone else to Washington soon, but here is the reality we’re facing:

        In our state, you cannot run a Democrat against this guy and expect to win; as a result, unseating him would require that he face a Republican challenger in a primary and the party here just won’t support that. Their thinking is (1) holding a primary is an unnecessary expense, and (2) a bruising primary battle between Republicans gives the Democratic candidate the opportunity to steal the election and the seat. So here we sit and stew.

        Some established local politicians have recently switched from the Republican party to the Democratic party — which has no viable candidates of its own — solely for the purpose of unseating “the craziest of the crazies.” but it’s an uphill strategy that will likely only work at the local or state level, if it even works there.

        I’ve thought for quite awhile that these guys couldn’t do a better job of destroying the country if they tried. And since we’ve already jumped the shark and are discussing poltics in a public forum, then I guess we might as well discuss religion as well! A couple of days ago I read an article about the “Christian Reconstructionism” movement (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-caldwell/christian-dominionism-debt-default-_b_4097017.html). I’m a devout Christian myself but as a citizen I really come down hard on the side of freedom of religion and separation of church and state, and now I’m actually entertaining the thought that perhaps the goal IS to eradicate the U.S. government! ***headdesk***

        At the end of the day, all I know for sure is that my 86-year-old mother watches the news on TV all day and now afraid she’s going to lose her Social Security and that the Depression she lived through once is upon her again. Any politician who, for whatever reason, would do that to an elderly person should REALLY be ashamed of themselves!

      • Dana Ferro
        October 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM

        Saddle unfortunately, those who have health insurance supplied by a company or spouse don’t understand the “Required” ramifications of the health care law and how it does NOT help the uninsured unless they make less than 12- 19k to go on medicare. The “Working” poor and low middle class, who this is supposed to help, do NOT have the 250 or more per month to even pay the mandated minimum premiums. I work for a small CPA who doesn’t offer insurance and I now will be required to pay $780 in premiums because MY children have moved back home due to unemployment. Sorry to say I have no debt, cars paid off etc but my salary only pays all my basic living expenses. I don’t have an addt’i $780 per month. so I either ignore the mandate or i forget about a roof over my house or food in my belly. Trust me I work with many doing taxes and I am not alone in this situation. Unless of course you are undocumented immigrants or for religious reasons you are “Exempt” from the required mandate, which I find appalling! So I am glad someone in Washington is trying to stand up and speak for me.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 16, 2013 at 4:41 PM

          I just wish in my heart that I could wake up one day in a country where the health insurance companies were relegated to covering boob jobs and tattoo removal and that every single person had complete, full and free health care. Freedom from disease, hunger and blistering poverty are something this nation should stand for. And this is from a cranky old Republican. I’ve sent “stern” letters to my local nut-job Representative (Scott Garrett R-NJ) telling him I’ll vote straight Democratic even if they run a cadaver against him – just to get him out of office. Somehow I think I won’t be getting anymore invites to the local party functions anymore…

          • October 16, 2013 at 6:49 PM

            Saddle – I write to that idiot garrett every day! He keeps replying that he appreciates my comment and wants to hear from me….. idiot…

        • suedechik79
          October 16, 2013 at 9:31 PM

          The decisions have already been made by people outside of Washington. No one cares a wick about their constituents in Washington, this whole fight is merely a show to make you think they do. I mean, death panels? Really? And people still think this is just about health care?

      • Lady Heather
        October 16, 2013 at 9:08 PM

        Thank you ever so much for explaining that saddle. I have read British news articles about it but was still confused so thanks for boiling it down.

  29. wisconsheepgirl
    October 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Sackem our president is a POS. He probably wishes we all experience third world conditions. So yes, GFC 2 is coming soon.

    • October 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM

      Whoa Nellie! Since this isn’t a political site, I’ll keep my opinion to myself. Can we all just stick to the housewives?

      • October 15, 2013 at 10:18 PM

        I respect that we all have differences and come from all walks of life. We all are living our very own personal circumstances and right now, this very minute, some of us are hurting – badly I understand and empathize as I have my own issues going on because of what is happening with the government right now.

        I come here to escape my “reality”, enjoy the comraderie, and relish the comments posted here on various subjects but the particular topics of religion and politics, well, as Fame says upthread, discussions on these two can kill friendships. Your decision is one I agree with and I will keep my opinion to myself on these topics too.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

          I agree, and beg gentle forgiveness for my rant. I should be focusing on the Chameleon Trollop….

          • October 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM

            Love you Saddle and respect you so much.

          • October 15, 2013 at 11:11 PM

            215

        • October 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

          I’m glad. Can we talk about how I have a dress the same shade as Melissa’s and how I am really upset by this? Mine is prettier obviously but ugh.

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 15, 2013 at 10:59 PM

            You shouldn’t be upset! I’m sure you look absolutely lovely in it. The shade only looks bad on the Wretched Wench. But then her inner filth ruins any outfit…

            • Miss Alicat
              October 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM

              don’t forget her spray tan too…

            • October 16, 2013 at 2:48 AM

              Thank you! And agreed. Even if the clothes are nice, seeing Melissa’s face makes me wince. She just looks miserable like Caroline.

              • Russkaya
                October 16, 2013 at 8:29 AM

                Agirl… Yeah she’s miserable she knows her meal ticket is running out.

                • October 16, 2013 at 3:21 PM

                  Lol! Maybe. She’s not smart but she’s cunning. She must see things haven’t gone as planned.

          • October 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

            LOL – peach is not my color!! Does anyone else remember when “Color Me Beautiful” was all the rage? I was categorized as a “Winter”. Dark hair, light eyes and light skin with blue undertones – so I look best in jewel tones or colors with “blue” in them. Actually when I had my profile done back then, I was much younger and it really did help me figure out what looked best on me and what didn’t.

            I am sure that you wear your dress well and look beautiful in it!!!

            • Saddle_River_NJ
              October 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

              I had an outfit once that I thought was a very cheerful yellow. Well maybe a bit too “cheerful”. I literally ruined several group photos with it. Best description of the color was “radioactive marigold”. I’ve since learned to stay with mostly blues, blacks and grays…

              • October 16, 2013 at 12:16 AM

                Lol Like that story, Saddle I once had a similar out fit that I thought was the coolest thing around, but in green. That all came to a halt when someone called me “the jolly green giant” lol I was on the heavy side back then. I have NEVER worn ANYTHING green again. lol I do have to had one thing, I have green eyes with a layer of light brown therefore I have been asked a trillion times What color are your eyes My reply is Yellow or gold there really weird looking. My point, I thought green brought out the “green in my eyes” that way people would quit commenting on my eye color.

                • October 16, 2013 at 3:07 AM

                  Awww. Maybe you can try out different shades of green? Just like Saddle can take another crack at yellow. I think it’s the undertone of your complexion that dictates the colors you can wear. From my own personal opinion, not based in fact or science.

            • October 16, 2013 at 3:01 AM

              Awww, thanks! My dress is pink but it has gold and it’s sort of Grecian inspired so seeing Melissa’s dress made me think, “Ewww. Too close, too close!”. I was trying to find a picture but can’t. Carnation pink with gold beading around the bust. Sounds hideous but is really lovely. I’m very grateful that with my complexion, I can wear pretty much any color. Never had to worry about what season I am or anything like that.

            • Miami53
              October 16, 2013 at 6:20 AM

              Peach is not my color either. Like you Jeannie, I have to wear the jewel colors too…except I have brown eyes. When my son’s got married that was the colors I wore…the mother’s of the Brides were the Spring tones.

            • Laram
              October 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

              I just saw this. Yes, Color Me Beautiful. Lmao!

              • Laram
                October 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM

                @jeannie!still laughing.I was suppose to wear peach. I looked like strawberry shortcake.

    • Laram
      October 16, 2013 at 3:25 AM

      Whether you agree @Wisconsin, or not with our President, one thing I always abided to despite my desdain for other recent President’s, and what my husband always says about the problem with current military, respect the President. Congress makes the Laws. Respect the Commander in Chief. You don’t have to agree, but he sleeps less than us, and trust me, dealing with more shit that you and I and all of us commenters in Housewive blogs can even begin to imagine in a single work day!!!!!!!

      • wisconsheepgirl
        October 16, 2013 at 6:36 AM

        Laram. With all due respect, I did not intend to get into a strange blog/posting war with you or any one else. But for your information I work for the U.S. Government and have for 13 years. I worked Washington D.C. for 11 of those years.

        I feel that with my knowledge I can say what i wish, whether you like it or not. Sackem asked a question. It was answered. Respecting the OFFICE of the President is an absolute. The person sitting in that chair in the Oval Office? Hmm. No. Don’t get the man and the office confused. Which I respectfully believe you have. If I’m wrong, I apologize sincerely.

        I feel that I do have a bit of ‘inside track’ info and I know about wheels of D.C. and White House simply because of my position, I can tell you that the current ‘sitter’ of the White House is NOT well respected by either party for multiple reasons. The first one is that he simply was given this job a tad too early. He has still not learned anything about ‘politicking’, like Bill Clinton. Now, if Hillary had managed to become president, we would not be in the mess we are in now. It is that simple. It is the person that makes the office work well. And currently the office (and by extension the country) is in shambles because of the person currently residing within its walls.

        I would hope that this will end the viritol that was directed at me and we can simply return back to talking about MeHo and her being a sociopath/SWF. If you wish to discuss this further, in private please let me know. And I will happily give you the time and respect you deserve and listen to your side and your very valued opinions and thoughts.

        • Laram
          October 16, 2013 at 7:09 PM

          @Wisconsin, I was not intenting vitirol at you at all. I always enjoy your posts. I took a chance at posting something on this site that is typically Meho/NJ, and may not always be, and that I am extremely passionate about.

          I do surround my self by all sides of the fence in politics, and am surrounded by it my all whole life, as well as father who has made a career of Washington, State and local, and many other members. We all have opinions, and respectfully I wanted to give mine to Sackem, as well, or too anyone.

          I won’t deny my passion, and beliefs, and knowledge, as well. I do think it is important for Congress and other State, Local elected or appointed officials to listen to Constintuency.

          I do, however, apologize to you @Wisconsin, and any others whom took offense to me sounding harsh or arrogant. It was not my intention.

          Yes, I will try and keep it light and fun. I love this site for the insight of justice and fairness, and a communal spirit.

          • Laram
            October 16, 2013 at 7:13 PM

            And I do agree, many Dems are disappointed by our President, many of them who wanted Hilary. You @Wisconsin said it best, it is the Office that should be respected.

          • October 16, 2013 at 9:05 PM

            Laram – I do not wish to engage in a political discussion here at FW but I wanted to tell you I do not feel you were offensive or intending any vitriole. As long as one is willing to have an open mind and heart, it is a highly admirable quality to be passionate about something rather than being apathetic.

            “I have a very strong feeling that the opposite of love is not hate – it’s apathy. It’s not giving a damn.”. . .Leo Buscaglia

            • Laram
              October 16, 2013 at 10:50 PM

              Thank you, Jeannie. I was love the quote. Big XO!!

              • Laram
                October 16, 2013 at 10:52 PM

                *I was always a love of this quote. (kiddos talking to me while typing) :-).

        • Wilbur
          October 16, 2013 at 9:44 PM

          I also have experience in the federal govt. and worked for two presidents. I have to agree with you that this president has been a failure at leadership, policy and trust of the American people. I voted for him in 2008 and it was a mistake. I do respect the office and love my country. I have come to the realization that this president is more concerned about his well being than he is about this country, a first for an American president.

          That said, I am so depressed that Melissa was rehired by bravo. Another season of the two of them going after Teresa? Didn’t bravo learn after 3 years of this crap that nobody is interested? I have to wonder why bravo is hell bent on continuing a losing storyline. Who are they paying off here? It’s pathetic that she is once again rewarded for destroying a family and writing a rape book. Bravo is like a porn network.

      • tam
        October 16, 2013 at 9:55 AM

        Thank you Laram, Now i don’t like to get into stuff like this. But I feel that this President get alot of flack for some reason. Bush to me is the worst President there ever was, so many young men and women lost their lives in a war over Oil. Sending young mothers and fathers off to war to fight over oil is as low as anyone could ever go, but people give him a pass for some reason. The economy was messed up when Obama was voted into the White House and we all knew that i would take years to fix with that alcoholic Bush did, but we expect this President to work miracle. How can he when he has everyone working against him. This is just how I feel about things, of course we all have a right to our own opinions.

        • Alicia
          October 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM

          If you think it was over oil that is your opinion and definitely not a fact.

          • October 16, 2013 at 3:23 PM

            Is that your real name or a username?

        • suedechik79
          October 16, 2013 at 9:34 PM

          Google “Debt pyramid” and look at the picture. You are at the bottom. The government is one step above you, meant to control you only. Decisions are made waaaaaaaaaaay about that level. Presidents are there merely to distract you from seeing where real power lies.

          “Look! Obamas singing! OMG His wife has bangs!!!!” “Bush takes so much vacation! He was a D student” etc etc etc

        • Laram
          October 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM

          :-), I share that opinion @tam. But government as my dad has said for 45 years is Hollywood, but better suits, cocktails and steaks in DC.

  30. Saddle_River_NJ
    October 15, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    On an aside – I jusr read a bit in the local paper that almost made my day. The High Mountain Golf Course in Caroline and Janax’s neighborhood is up for sale. Toll Brothers who wants to deveolp the site with 1/2 acre lots but the area is zoned for 1 acre. In return for the revisions to the zoning they are promising to construct 55 “affordable” housing units right along Ewing Ave near Jax! (NJ has the Mount Laurel court decision mandating each town create a certain number of affordable housing units) So now the Botoxed Beeotch will be living across from a swamp around the corner from a condo complex. The intent of the court decision is noble, but the implementation has been terribly clumsy in some towns. A condo complex on Ewing would be so massively out of place it isn’t even funny – but now we can see how the town of Franklin Lakes views the neighborhood that C & J live in…

  31. Target88
    October 16, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    Don’t forget she had j-Lo’s x teaching her to dance. She is nothing at all like her. Mel is fake.

  32. October 16, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Dear fame,

    Could you please post this?

    Love,
    Loyal reader

    Cooking Channel & Food Network: Give Teresa Giudice her own show http://www.change.org/petitions/cooking-channel-food-network-give-teresa-giudice-her-own-show

    • October 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM

      I will tweet this 🙂

  33. Laram
    October 16, 2013 at 2:49 AM

    Enjoyed reading everyone’s comments, and I’m so over reading about Melissa bc we all know what she is and does. New news is always interesting, tho.

    • October 16, 2013 at 3:05 AM

      There probably won’t be any new news except for trial updates or Twitter wars. Not until filming starts. These people do nothing without a camera.

  34. October 16, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    We can still read her reviews on Amazon and laugh. And there is always the possibility that TB will commit a sexual assault.

    • Patricia
      October 16, 2013 at 12:54 PM

      oh geesh,, can you imagine all the film clips from the show they would use as evidence for character establishment being a sexual deprave maniac for TB

    • October 16, 2013 at 3:25 PM

      Fingers crossed! J/K. But seriously, he has issues so it wouldn’t be surprising if he flipped out on someone during the break or if the show ends.

  35. Miami53
    • Jeannie5233
      October 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      Yes, but EWWWW! And notice, they both have their “big girl panties” on – just like Mommy tells them to.

    • NCGal
      October 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

      That is hysterical! Priceless.

  36. October 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Granted Melissa flagrantly copies Jennifer Lopez but come on – Angelina Jolie DOES NOT have a trademark on the high cut leg shot. She may be the reigning queen of doing it best but we’ve all been doing it for decades!
    But Melissa readily admits she’s JLo obsessed. Get back to the real dirt –

    WHEN IS BULLDOG BRIAN GOING TO RELEASE THE EVIDENCE THAT SHE CHEATED???

    • October 16, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      Oh, didn’t you know? He already released it for publication and I guess they will decide when it is a good time to publish it. Too bad the season ended and it is now a moot point. Or is that the other guy Anthony Aratar. I get them mixed up.

      • October 16, 2013 at 6:35 PM

        I’ll believe it when I see it!

      • October 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM

        It was the other guy Anthony Arater who supposedly signed a contract and told his story but according to his TL, TSIL’s lawyers have held it up. Whatever.

        As far as Bryan is concerned, I hope he keeps quiet. He really should stop with the teasing though. It has gotten so old and stale, there is mold growing now.

        The truth about TSIL will never be uncovered.

        • Patricia
          October 17, 2013 at 12:21 AM

          honestly I don’t care if she did or didn’t, am just baffled how meho thinks she has anything worth while to take down…

        • LifeIsGood
          October 17, 2013 at 7:03 AM

          Over the years, the tabloids have found a way to put MAJOR celebs on blast. I’m pretty sure Tom Cruise can afford more and better lawyers, and they were not able to stop publication of his dirty laundry. I call BS on all of it until I see proof otherwise.

  37. Jeannie5233
    October 16, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    I think B/S blew it – the jig is up. As the following article states, in the 18-49 demographic, vewership for RHONJ has fallen 38.9% from last year. The Lost Footage episode, which aired Monday night, didn’t even break one million viewers total. Bringing Dina back and introducing two new faces is not going to save this show. I think RHONJ has one more season and that’s it, especially if Teresa is convicted and goes to jail.

    Real Housewives of New Jersey – Season 5 Ratings

    UPDATED Noon on Tuesday October 15th with ratings for S05E20 – Season 5 Reunion Part 2 and pending a further update at 6pm, today (now posted below) with ratings for S05E21 Tell All Part 1

    DISASTER! The second part of the RHoNJ Season 5 reunion limped to a weak total of 2,099,000 viewers Sunday night with it scoring a lowly 0.90 in the 18 to 49 year old demographic. Last season’s three reunion episodes scored demo ratings of 1.70, 1.60 & 1.60 and the two from Season 3 both scored 1.70′s. With last week’s Part 1 scoring just a 1.10, and thus the two episodes averaging a demo rating of 1.0, that translates to a massive 38.9% reduction in the 18 to 49 year old viewers who have stayed with this show from last year.

    Bravo Media, were desperately hoping that Monday nights RHoNJ Tell All, which aired at 9pm would have given a boost to their failing Real Housewives of Miami franchise, but given the drop off in the ratings for this season’s reunions, I can’t imagine too many viewers bothered to also tune in to the ‘Lost Footage‘ last night.

    A massive cast reboot will no doubt eventuate however the blame has to fall fairly at the feet of producers Sirens Media and Bravo Media themselves but as usual the cast will be the ones made to be the scapegoats for these dismal ratings.

    This reunion episode repeated again at 9pm and 10pm Sunday but they like Watch What Happens Live and The Peoples Couch, all failed to rate in the nightly Top 100 Cable TV shows, and we’ll be back later with a further update once we have their ratings to hand. (full article coming later Wednesday, October 16th, 2013)

    UPDATED 6pm on Tuesday October 15th with ratings for S05E21 Tell All Part 1

    As expected RHoNJ’s viewers didn’t race to view Monday’s night’s first portion of this season’s off-cuts, as only 946,000 viewers (Demo 0.40) tuned in at 9pm. Still, that was 80,000 more people than the number who watched the first of two weddings on this third season of The Real Housewives of Miami which aired at 10pm.

    To date in five seasons of RHoNJ, the lowest rated Lost Footage/Secrets Revealed/Tell All came last season on 21st October 2012, when 1,641,000 viewers (Demo 0.70) tuned in for Season Four’s Lost Footage. This coming Sunday, the second episode of off-cuts will air back at the regular time of 8pm, and will act as a lead-in to the 10th Anniversary Special of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, but given the ennui that has creeped into the viewers this season, Carson Kressely and his gang shouldn’t expect much of a RHoNJ boost.

    Stats from Reunion, Part 2 and Lost Footage, Part 1:

    Episode – Time – Date – Lead In – Audience – 18-49 Audience – 18-49 Demographic

    S05E20 8:00 PM 13-Oct-13 Repeat 2,099,000 1,181,000 0.90
    S05E21 9:00 PM 14-Oct-13 Repeat 946,000 483,000 0.40

    Source: http://bravoratings.com/2013/07/30/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-5-ratings/

    • Miami53
      October 16, 2013 at 2:55 PM

      I dvr other shows so RHONJ is recorded after 11:00 and then I watch it on Monday mornings. So will that show a reduction in ratings because I don’t have it on for the first showing.

      • October 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM

        I think it still counts when you DVR it. The time you record or watch doesn’t matter as much as the fact that you record it. I think anyway, not an expert.

      • October 16, 2013 at 3:37 PM

        Unless you have one of Nielson’s measuring panels, that track all devices in your home, nothing you watch is being tracked. Considering the system Nielson uses, it is possible for the RHONJ audience to be even lower than estimated. As I have stated before I am friends with many people who once watched this show, in the words of Benny Grunch, “Ain’t dere no more”.

        http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/nielsen-solutions/nielsen-measurement/nielsen-tv-measurement.html

        • Laram
          October 16, 2013 at 7:19 PM

          Oh good, Nielsen always confuses me. I DVR, as well, and had hoped that I didn’t add to ratings.

    • October 16, 2013 at 9:26 PM

      That was not a smart move making TSIL’s skanky past the main storyline, again! Then, trying to blame Tre for setting everything up, again! I think anyone could have told B/S’s that doing that, again, would be a huge mistake!

      I don’t know if it’s true (I won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by Bravo, though) but Tre and TSIL signed contracts to appear next season. I hope this season is a phase out season for the Gorga’s. Those two do not belong on a reality show with a “platform”. I have a feeling TSIL is going to use her controvesial book as a storyline. I just hope she doesn’t blame it’s complete failure on Tre. That storyline is getting old. The girl had three (3) season’s to take Tre down and she couldn’t do it! Instead her jealous hate helped make Tre more popular.

      If rumor’s are true, Kathy was demoted and Rosie is going to get paid this season! This is going to sound mean but I would have loved to see Richie’s face when told that Kathy’s not an “official” housewife anymore! I think he liked her title more than she did! I watched a scene from the “Lost Footage” and Richie called Kim D.’s assistant a F-in POS! He needed to get his big mouth punched for that remark! He’s a POS and I hope Kathy’s limited role does NOT include Richie! He’s such a coward for the way he talks to women! I’d like to see him talk to a man, who can defend himself, that way!

  38. Alicia
    October 16, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Look at Jennifer Lopez and then look at Melissa….there is no competition. Melissa is trying really hard, but will never come close.

    • October 16, 2013 at 4:50 PM

      I just don’t see how she looks or thinks she looks like J-LO. J-Lo has the it factor and comes across as demure and sweet, she may not be but it’s her persona.

      • Laram
        October 16, 2013 at 7:20 PM

        And, J LO doesn’t have the bone structure (chin) of a witchy poo!

    • black enga
      October 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM

      Yep Alicia, not even close. No amount of plastic surgery, hair extensions (with fan blowing), lip fill or butt implants (cuz I believe that’s what’s next) is going to help her at all. Jennifer Lopez has a natural beauty and even though she is not the greatest singer, I think she is more of a dancer, she has that it factor.

  39. October 16, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    So can we all agree that Teresa and Juicy at least read that other blog since he referred to Penny as Penelope?

    • October 16, 2013 at 4:39 PM

      No … the other blog was not their before the reunion taped.

      • October 16, 2013 at 5:00 PM

        You’re right. Penelope started on September 17th and the reunion was taped on the 4th. So that’s just a really weird coincidence.

        • October 16, 2013 at 6:41 PM

          I believe Penny’s August 23rd blog caused Bravo to bring her into litigation. I believe Penny let it be known to everyone that she was advised she could blog about her situation, if she claimed it was fiction, regardless of what the courts decided. In my opinion she spread the word to her circle that she would be Penelope long before her first “Penelope” blog was published.

          • October 16, 2013 at 6:53 PM

            Ah…that would explain it. Thank you, momajackie! I thought it was too much of a coincidence.

            • Laram
              October 16, 2013 at 7:21 PM

              What if her legal name is Penelope? Just a thought.

              • October 16, 2013 at 9:14 PM

                Maybe. But what are the odds Juicy would know that?

                • October 16, 2013 at 10:43 PM

                  He called her Penelope Cruz … 🙂

                • Laram
                  October 16, 2013 at 10:46 PM

                  I agree.

    • October 16, 2013 at 5:42 PM

      I have to be honest. I don’t find the Penelope Pitstop stuff amusing but I do find it confusing.
      You got something to say, just say it.

      • October 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM

        Yeah, it’s a little annoying. I know what it’s like though to want to say something but can’t so you try to hint. So I can accept it if Penny can’t talk for legal reasons but I will be very irritated if it’s all a game.

      • Honnie Badger
        October 16, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        Uh, look at the source. Of course it’s confusing! That site is totally biased. Therefore, unbelievable. Therefore, a waste of time and energy.

  40. Miami53
    October 16, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    I thought the same-thing when he had said it….too funny!!

  41. Have2Say
    October 16, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    off topic… who is the Maria girl from the video on Bravo “walking away from trouble”

  42. October 16, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    How about this copycat for TSIL?

    I could not find a pink jumpsuit pic of JLo, but I found a pic of Nicole Richie dressed as Jlo for Halloween.
    http://hollywoodtattletale.com/2011/10/30/photo-freezenicole-richie-as-jennifer-lopez-for-halloween/

    TSIL wore this when she was dancing with Jlo’s ex Cris Judd. She “makes an entrance” with sunglasses on
    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/cris-judd-dishes-on-real-house-46411.aspx

  43. NCGal
    October 16, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Since I pretty much believe ROL and Melissa work together, they probably got this from her

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/10/teresa-giudice-real-housewives-new-jersey-contracts-signed-who-else-another-season/

    Highlights:

    Teresa second highest paid HW.
    Melissa back.
    Kathy demoted, salary significantly reduced.
    Rosie gets paid for the first time.

    I also think TSIL is probably the source because of this dig: “Teresa was desperate to keep money coming in and so she took the first thing that was offered to her.”

    Also note:

    “Dina Manzo’s Project Ladybug event in early November is going to be filmed for the show,” the production spy added.

    “The producers want to get all of the drama surrounding her return in right away and they’re expecting major fireworks at that event.”

    Huh? Major Fireworks? I doubt Dina would let that happen.

    • October 16, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      Dina would not let that happen, never! Dina loves that charity from her heart. I call BS.

      TSIL is most likely the source.

    • October 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM

      I realize Bravo feels it has a gold mine with Rosie so why don’t they just get rid of MMP and keep Rosie? Rosie is just as much a cousin to TB and Teresa as MMP is. It has been apparent over the last two seasons she really is extraneous and expendable. I hope at least with MMP’s demotion that this means Wretched won’t be filmed either.

      • October 16, 2013 at 9:47 PM

        I hope the demotion is true for MMP as Dickie has been very cocky (ok cockier) on twitter.Reality is Juicy’s trial is coming and the two of them together are wonderful! I think Bravo is waiting to see and if he goes away will try and recreate that with Dickie.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 17, 2013 at 6:54 AM

        Great point, Jeannie. Although I have to say I really do not see what is so great about Rosie. I just do not see it! All I see is a loud, crass, sloppy drunk.

        What does MMP stand for? I know it’s Kathy, but I don’t know what the letters stand for.

        • October 17, 2013 at 7:26 AM

          My mother’s pizzolis.

        • October 17, 2013 at 7:30 AM

          “My Mom’s Pizzelles” . Every time she comes on, I thnk of her passive-aggressiveness and whininesss “There’s enough pie for everyone.”. UGH!

          • LifeIsGood
            October 17, 2013 at 11:46 AM

            Thanks! Lol!

    • LifeIsGood
      October 17, 2013 at 6:56 AM

      I don’t think Dina would encourage the “fireworks” but I would not put it past Bravo to undermine an event to help sick children for ratings. Disgusting.

  44. October 16, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    What if off show stuff is also fake and made up? What are the odds TSIL copies JLo and Cris Judd teaches her to dance? Why would he do that? What if Kathy’s jealousy of Teresa’s cookbooks is also fake? Twitter drama fake? Drawing fans into the action and brainstorming off of things we say?

    It just seems really odd that so many of them have over the top issues and they want to continue being on a show. All the trouble so far has been smoothed over somehow, even the legal issues. The sons of Tiny Manzo are on a VH1 wedding documentry and later are on a reality show, well one son, but both of their wives who happen to be sisters. Why? do they have no other way to make money? Is it for fame? Surely they knew all this information was going to come forward. Everyone talks about how it upsets their parents yet they did not think of that when they signed up?

    • Laram
      October 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM

      @Kayswhims, first I love your posts, and your links, research. You and others help make Fame’s site the bomb (Jeannie, Jules, Gessie, and all others).

      I have often wondered if we were getting a bit punked by the behind the scenes “Real” life. I still believe that Bravo set up Meho, and Joey for a fall…that perhaps they agreed to for their 15 minutes and $.

      • October 16, 2013 at 7:51 PM

        I love Kays posts and yours too Lara!

        I have thought about it too Lara and often wondered if there is a plan. Most businesses have 3-5 year plans that they continually modify, wouldn’t Bravo as well for the series? We know it is partially scripted and producer driven so how could they do this without a plan?

        • Laram
          October 16, 2013 at 9:03 PM

          Thank you, Jules.

          Plus, all the industries (advertisers) behind the network/producers.

    • October 16, 2013 at 9:20 PM

      Maybe that’s how it is now (I hope not) but I have to believe they all went into this innocently and they let fame get to them. When they started, things were more innocent on all the Housewives shows. I really think people sign up for reality tv not expecting their dirt to come out because everyone thinks they know how to game the system. I’m probably naive and optimistic but I will be really sad if everything was a conspiracy.

    • Pittsburghfan
      October 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM

      Melissa is not as brave as Teresa is with fashion. Melissa copies. I believe there are genuine unresolved issues between Teresa and Kathy. My parents were born in Italy and I have only 2 first cousins in the US. I cannot imagine not asking them to be in my wedding. Teresa was not in Kathy’s wedding and Kathy wasn’t in hers. There are huge grudges on both sides.

  45. black enga
    October 16, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Well I feel like I have been corn hauled by Bravo. Thanks George!!!! One of my new favorite words along with dingle berry.

  46. Eggroll67
    October 18, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    My friend that lives by franklin lakes says her mailman calls Melissa 2 free magazines 2 bills and she comes out yelling about it. Joe must have wanted to take the Cosmo test! Oh Melissa is stupid. Fake hair,boobs,nose job,can’t sing.dance or speak in her native tongue…. English. I think she would leave joe for a guy with more money (owes less cuz she would ruin his checkbook! I like it when she says a few years ago we couldn’t afford diapers ( their kids are under 7?8? So now they have $. Bs. Sorry to ramble dental pain!

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