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Melissa Gorga’s Marriage Advice Spells Doom for Newlywed Woman; Melissa Doesn’t Know Her Father-in-Law’s Name is Giancinto

September 30, 2013

The following video is not an embedded ad – it’s related to the review below by Classy Norm of Melissa Gorga’s “marriage advice bible and sex book” and her writing that “girls don’t poop”:

“Girls don’t poop. Me, never have. Never will. It just doesn’t happen. Or, that’s what Joe thinks! We’ve been married for nine years, and he has never once seen or smelled my business. How have I pulled this off? I don’t do it when he’s around or awake. In an emergency, I have my ways of pooping so he won’t hear, smell, or see. It’s a challenge.” – Melissa Gorga, Love Italian Style: The Secrets of My Hot and Happy Marriage


By Classy “Norm” (Canada), Amazon.com

This review is for: Love Italian Style: The Secrets of My Hot and Happy Marriage

Do NOT buy this Book!!!!!! I am NOW GETTING DIVORCED because of this book!!!

I recently bought this book and took it very seriously, as I am just recently married and was desperate to have a hot, sexy, happy marriage like Melissa and Joe.

One of Melissa’s strategies in her book for a great marriage was never ever let your new husband know you POOP! Well my husband was recently laid off and was at home while he was looking for a new job and I REALLY had to poop so bad but couldn’t get away from him. I figured I would wait till he went to sleep to poop. As I was sitting on my hubby’s lap caressing his head like I always do, my tummy started to rumble and before I knew it I POOPED MY PANTS right on his lap!!! He was so mortified he ran out of the house saying he needed to get some milk at the store and has NOT been seen since!!

I would NOT recommend this book to anyone suffering with bowel issues! Ugh.

By Jennifer, Amazon.com

This review is for: Love Italian Style: The Secrets of My Hot and Happy Marriage

Since I’m just learning to read books with lots of pages, my tutor thought this would be a good starter book for me.

Before I started, I shaved my pits and legs, gave myself a good bikini waxing, threw on some yoga pants, and put on a super hot top over my too small push-up bra. I also ordered Chinese food and put it on a plate for when my man came home.

I wrote a quick note to my “King” on the napkin next to the Chinese food. The note said: “Dear King, this is your queen. I’ve shaved, haven’t pooped, and prepared this meal for you. You can find me in my recording studio, reading my first book with lots of pages. Your Devoted, Queen.”

I don’t understand all the hateful reviews. For a first time reader, I found the sentence structure to be very simple. Perhaps this book should be required reading for middle school girls. My favorite part of the book was, “Loin & The Ram: A Wild Love Story”. Who doesn’t love a great zodiac story! I hope Melissa Gorga’s second book with lots of pages in it has more zodiac stories.

If you haven’t read this yet, download some of Melissa’s iTunes songs, strap on some headphones, and engross yourself in the tale that Melissa Gorga wove. Just be sure to properly groom yourself and put some Chinese food on a plate for your “King”.

In related news, Melissa wrote in her book that her son Gino Anthony was named after her father-in-law (see image below), and she writes his name is Giancarlo, but it’s not … his name is Giancinto!

And if little Joey’s middle name is Marco, how can he be Joe Gorga, Jr.?

She also wrote that Joe didn’t have any cousins or aunts or uncles in New Jersey growing up, but Rosie and Kathy (and their brothers) are his cousins (and their parents are his aunt and uncle), and they grew up together… in New Jersey!

book 2

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  1. kayswhims
    September 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Now I know TB doid not read this book

    • September 30, 2013 at 7:59 PM

      Did you mean, “TB Roid,” or “TB does not read?” Either way…PERFECTLY stated.

  2. LilyM
    September 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Hey! What about Kathie and Rosy, arent they TB’s cousins! I wonder what state of mind TSIL was in when writing this “Book” it reads like a fantasy babble!

    • Silvana
      September 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM

      I was just going to post hat joe and Teresa had Kathy and her family here so they had cousins and both Teresa and Kathy have said how close they were growing up aside from the time when the parents were not talking.

    • kayswhims
      September 30, 2013 at 8:17 PM

      It is like they don’t exist. Caroline Manzo is listed in the index. She is the sister TB never had so I guess she is worth mentioning.

    • September 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

      plus Kathy and Rosie have like four or more brothers who are not on the show and never mentioned.

      • kayswhims
        September 30, 2013 at 10:13 PM

        I knew there were more siblings but I did not know she had so many brothers. I wonder if she gets along with all her SILs lol If I was her brother, I would have a talk with Rich about his roaming eyes and hands. Kathy met Rich on a plane. He proably ask her if she wanted to join the mile high club. A can’t believe she thought he was going to bring comic reliefto the show. Now of course she finds him annoying.

        • Anonymous
          September 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

          There is nothing good, when you meet your mate or the next on the public transportation.
          My ex was riding trains in Poland – MIA since 1998. I did get over it – my kids didn’t.
          How desperate do you have to be to pick a guy from the public transportation?
          Well I was married once and divorced twice in the court of laws – nightmare. Never again…

      • Miami53
        October 1, 2013 at 12:40 AM

        She is such an a$$….how could you forget the rest of Joes’ cousins. Is this a telling sign how she really feels about them?

      • October 1, 2013 at 9:20 AM

        I felt like vomiting just reading the passages above. This woman lives in a fantasy land. She can’t go a way fast enough for me. I heard we have a three part reunion. Why? If itr is all sunshine and roses to pretend that they like each other for Caroline’s spin-off.

  3. Seattle Sext Wife
    September 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Lol!!! All you can do is laugh!!!

  4. September 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Oh, Fame so funny!!!

    • October 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      I know. Amazing freaking headline.

  5. Seattle Sexy Wife
    September 30, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    I seriously believe Melissa Waco wanted her silly book to be just like Fifty Shades!!

    • September 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

      I think you are right! I haven’t read “50 Shades of Grey” and don’t know much about it, but Lynnfam did a story about it (http://lynnfam.com/2013/09/28/fifty-shades-of-gorga-a-book-review/), and it makes sense to me. Melissa even said or blogged or tweeted that Joe wanted to name the book “50 Shades of Gorga.” Such copycats!

      • September 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM

        I totally agree. My then 21 year old daughter insisted I read it and I could only get past the first chapter. It wasn’t the subject matter…the writing style just seemed to be, heck, I don’t know…young? I even flipped through to see if it got better, but it didn’t. About the best thing that I can say about it (50 Shades) is that it did make it acceptable or more mainstream for women to read erotica

        • mazeycat
          October 1, 2013 at 6:18 PM

          Not surprising considering it started out as a Twilight fanfic. The level of skill with the written word displayed in most fanfics,ESPECIALLY Twilight ones, is pretty much universally abysmal. Melissa Gorga knows jack and shit about BDSM. Although I bet she’d stomp a guy’s nuts in her stripper heels for a $20. I could totally picture Joe paying her to do it too. More easily than I can picture him being a dom. He don’t have what it takes. The offensive quote wasn’t Joe confiding in the readers about the kinky shiz he and Melissa get into. It was him ADVISING other men on what to do when a woman refuses sex. And his advice was to ignore that refusal and do it anyway. That’s rape. There’s no spin, no subtext, no context that can change the meaning of his words. I don’t care if he’s too big of a moron to realize what he was advocating, what advice he was giving. He said it. He, Melissa, and Bravo need to nut up and take responsibility for how disgusting and socially irresponsible it was and stop trying to spin it into a harmless personal anecdote.

          • October 1, 2013 at 7:08 PM

            I never got that Twilight crap either…

            • mazeycat
              October 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

              Sparkly emo vampires are FTL.

              • October 1, 2013 at 9:43 PM

                What’s FTL????

                • mazeycat
                  October 1, 2013 at 11:14 PM

                  FTL = For the loss.

                  • October 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM

                    Thank you!

            • Laram
              October 2, 2013 at 2:26 AM

              me either @Bree on all!

      • Babs
        September 30, 2013 at 10:36 PM

        Sorry, I’m getting paranoid, but why are so many avatars identical, and not like they were previously?

    • October 1, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      Fifty Shades of lies. I wouldn’t read either of them. But, only the second one is disturbing to me. Somebody should count the lies in Melissa’s book. Just for laughs. And this girl has everybody in her corner. What a joke.

      • tboz17586
        October 1, 2013 at 3:15 PM

        Did you see the review comments on Amazon where one of the commenters actually traced one of the 5* reviews back to Melissa’s Mother’s God Daughter? Just as we suspected! All friends and family promoting and raving about the book. It’s gonna flop.

  6. LifeIsGood
    September 30, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    I laughed out loud while reading “Classy Norm’s” review!

    I’m still trying to figure out how this book passed the editorial process. She would have done better by self publishing – the guys at Kinkos have a much better eye than the people who edited this mess.

    As for the content, I don’t know where to begin. I just hope that the bad reviews keep coming – she has to be made accountable for some of her BS. I have never seen a person who doubles down on her lies as often as MeHo does!

    • September 30, 2013 at 8:35 PM

      I tried to read the first chapter a few months ago, when it was put online. I could not finish, I was becoming dizzy. The time periods were off, it went from her getting beat up, to her father passing, then her becoming a cheerleader. Now, from what I am reading it turns into 50 Shades of Gray.

      I truly believe no editor would work with her, because she rejected all of their advice.

      • LifeIsGood
        October 1, 2013 at 6:11 AM

        Moma, I couldn’t finish it either! I think I got as far as the “Boca Bitches.” We laugh about it, but she is a pathological liar. I can find some sympathy for someone who has a rocky past and feels the need to whitewash it a bit – but she lies about EVERYTHING!!

        I haven’t gotten around to reading 50 Shades yet (I know, I’m the only one who hasn’t) but from what my friends tell me, 50 Shades stirs feelings other than nausea.

        • Miami53
          October 1, 2013 at 8:20 AM

          LifeIsGood….I haven’t read it either and didn’t realized what the content of the story was. My niece’s 85 year old grandmother did thou. LOL

        • October 1, 2013 at 9:24 AM

          No you are not.

        • Honnie Badger
          October 1, 2013 at 9:32 AM

          Nope, you aren’t, LIfeisGood! I wouldn’t waste one second on that crap. Haven’t read it, don’t plan to. I don’t need to read soft core porn. I got a great dude in my life to enjoy the real thing.

        • elemcee
          October 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM

          I have not read it either, LIG. It creeps me out that 50 Shades is a fanfiction about teen characters in another book.

          • LifeIsGood
            October 1, 2013 at 5:29 PM

            It’s about teenagers!!??!! I had no idea! From what I heard about the sex scenes, I just assumed it was about adults.

            • elemcee
              October 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

              I think Bella is 16 in the Twilight books? At least when they start? I did read a chapter of Twilight, but the writing was so poor I could not bring myself to read more. The writing is much better than TSIL’s though… Anyway 50 Shades a Twilight fanfiction so…

        • LifeIsGood
          October 1, 2013 at 5:25 PM

          OK! I don’t feel so alone! I thought I was the only person who didn’t read it – lol! There was so much buzz about it that I was considering giving it a go.

          I normally enjoy reading about history and biographies, so 50 Shades is quite a departure from my normal genre 🙂

          • elemcee
            October 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

            I am working my way through Oscar Wilde right now. I am really enjoying his works.

  7. September 30, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    The kids don’t have the Gorga last name? Their last name is Marco?

    • September 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM

      The little’s one middle name, it would seem from that excerpt is Marco.

    • kayswhims
      September 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM

      Good catch. Why is baby Joey a Marco and not a Gorga?

      • kayswhims
        September 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

        wait she doesn’t add the last name, her maiden name is his middle name

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        October 1, 2013 at 9:11 AM

        Maybe she wasn’t sure who the father was and decided to hedge her bets…

  8. MurfsGirl
    September 30, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Hahahaha! Great excerpt, Fame. The only thing TSIL is passing over the neighbor’s fence is gas…since she doesn’t poop.

  9. Silvana
    September 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    I think this book should be in the fiction section of book shops or taken away all together!!

  10. Silvana
    September 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Messy is over at her bravo blog explaining the ” marital rape” hoop la she’s using some pretty big words looks like someone is helping her and has been coached on what to say and how to say it. We all know these aren’t her words otherwise she would have used them when writing the book to explain exactly what her husband meant.

    • September 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM

      Whoever wrote her blog, should have wrote her book. Deflect, backpedal — whatever. It’s not just 1 blogger that “misinterpreted” it, it is 1/2 of the damn world. And you know what No is No. She didn’t indicate it was playful or on agreement, it was stated as fact. She’s a succubus and disgusts me.

      • Silvana
        September 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

        It also looks like this dumb twot thinks we are as stupid as her husband she’s trying to drive up her book sales by telling us to read it for ourselves and not listen to the critics. I think she is liking this controversy and is trying to use it to her advantage!!! Disgusting!!

        • September 30, 2013 at 9:37 PM

          Yes her and the Bravo Machine! The sad part is that it might work.

        • elemcee
          October 1, 2013 at 10:51 AM

          The book sales are steadily falling. There was a very small spike about three days after the Jezebel review.

  11. Sexy Seattle Wife
    September 30, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Radar Online has Milania Haircare advertised all over their page. It also has one with Teresa (voted best haircare 2013) on it!! WOW!! Melissa Waco and Jo Ho must be crying and banging their heads on a wall. The nerve of them to state that Penny was styling Teresa’s hair!

    • September 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

      Did Tom Murro get fired?

      • Laram
        September 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

        Lol! This shit couldn’t be made up as a dream for a movie or book.

        • Laram
          September 30, 2013 at 8:36 PM

          Melissa and stupid Joe are seriously as crazy as it gets.

          Jules, I’m done! With SH. She spews hate and not the site she started. I will catch you on this or the other one, but this crap is getting crazy!

          • September 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

            I hear ya LaraM … but out of respect for Fame won’t say I what I really want to. If you are on twitter, friend me and I’ll send you a DM.

      • September 30, 2013 at 8:38 PM

        Thanks for the laugh Jules.

        • mzjulesaz
          September 30, 2013 at 8:50 PM

          I was actually being serious …. LOL

  12. September 30, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    200K in savings for his future kids college funds …. OMG that is to flipping funny. She got pregnant right away … um, you mean that sealed the deal so you could start your fantasy life. And girl you are living in a fantasy world if you believe the drivel that comes out of your mouth.

    • September 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

      I would have believed it a lot more if she said he started saving when she got pregnant. I highly doubt a man in his 20s saves money for his future kids college funds…..even BEFORE he is married. YEAH NOPE! My husband and I have talked about it and my husband has said he MIGHT save his GI bill for our kid’s college fund but he did not think about that before we got married and we barely talk about that right now, since we are not planning on having kids soon. A playboy, jersey boy who spent every night at a strip club thinking about future kid while going to college? hmm yeah right!!!! BTW when reading that she got married right away made me think of something. What if they got married BECAUSE she got pregnant? Seriously, my mom got pregnant right as she went into college and my parents got married right away!!! to this day, my grandfather does not know that my mom was pregnant before she got married. Joe’s parents are super old school, AND she saw it as her ticket to a better life, she saw Tre’s life and knew by marrying the brother it could happen.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

        Just more lies and lies and lies. I don’t believe a word out of her or TB’s mouth’s.

        I do think she was preggers when they got married so quickly, no biggie — shit happens (pun intended).

        Tre nailed it when she said she is a gold digger … she protests too much to paint the perfect picture yet give her an out as it portrays as abusive. Sick.

    • packerlover
      September 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

      Didnt they go through a period of time where they couldnt afford diapers? You mean to tell me they couldnt dip into that 200 grand college fund to buy diapers, or electricity? Lord have mercy, I just cant.

      • September 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

        I forgot about that packer … yes, yes they did say that, more lies. PS — Go Bears (can’t resist originally from Chicago)

        • September 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

          PS … all it takes is cheese curds … whatever they are called, and a beer to sway whoever I route for 🙂

        • Packerlover
          October 1, 2013 at 6:03 AM

          No prob mzjulesaz! I have a lot of respect for the Bears 🙂 now the Vikings?
          They almost rank right down there with the Gorgas, ALMOST. 😉

      • September 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

        Melissa and Joe = Lies, lies, lies. These lies are a big part of the reason I am done with Bravo and NBC. I hate being set up, to be played as the fool.

        • Anonymous
          September 30, 2013 at 11:41 PM

          how do you tweet? I am on tweeter reading the bs, but how do you tweet a person?

        • suedechik79
          October 1, 2013 at 3:19 AM

          Reality TV is not where the lies stop or start – everything is a lie: the news, the sitcoms, the talk shows, everything.

      • Sharon
        September 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

        Right, something is fishy there.

      • Laram
        October 1, 2013 at 12:42 AM

        Lmao! How soon with the stories, I forgot. Need an assistant to keep up with her lies! Lol

      • Miami53
        October 1, 2013 at 12:58 AM

        LOL

    • Jack Hole
      September 30, 2013 at 11:21 PM

      I am wondering if he did actually have that money saved, remember he was planning to marry 2 times before Melissa came along…she probably just slipped right in to the life that he already started building w another woman(or plural)! Unlike Tre and Joe who were childhood sweethearts, the loves of each other’s lives…THAT is what I think Melissa is so damn jealous of Teresa about, that she is with the love of her life. Teresa is with her imperfect, hard-working, big lug of guy who doesn’t let anyone give her shit, who gets mad wit-her but still loves, who loves his daughters to no end…Juicy Joe is everything to Teresa that Melissa tried to say Joe is to her. Only Melissa and Joe did not have the same AUTHENTIC beginning that the Giudice’s have and for some reason, they have morphed this (in their sick Axis II minds) into Teresa’s fault!!!??????

      Last night on here, someone said the cutest thing-I’ll take thirds of Joe Giudice!! I agree!!! He is just so REAL!! I love it! I love watching him and Tre fighting bc I have Italian friends like them!!! I think it is hilarious (as long as all parties agree that the name calling is in jest and meant to be endearing) but bc Melissa and Joe are so unauthentic, when they try to come across as THAT couple, it shows. Many ppl see right through it…

      Remember when Juicy kicked the punching bag in the garage?
      How about when he had “da runs” when he was supposed to be at the christening?
      Any scene with him and his girls( zip it! ) is endearing
      When he yells at Teresa and she starts squawking…love love love it!!

      • kayswhims
        October 1, 2013 at 12:05 AM

        I did not think of that. Most guys do not have a house unless they are in a serious relationship and plan on having a family. We don’t know anything about the 2 engagements and why they broke off the relationships. That would suck if TB was engaged and TSIL left Bryan to hook up with TB.

        • Laram
          October 1, 2013 at 12:44 AM

          I know a lot of men whom bought homes before they met the right one, and women, and called off engagements. Sorry, I can’t stand Mekissq and Joe, but disagree in the theory!

          • Laram
            October 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM

            I do, however, think they foolishly used any money Jor had to paint a lifestyle to get Fame, but to own a home before Melissa, I disagree that he did not!

            • patriciafromco
              October 1, 2013 at 3:00 AM

              well if TB had already been kicked out of college because of the incident, and Tre and Juicy were already helping him learn to flip houses, I could see he was doing that and asking TSIL to come be his secretary. TSIL left BD which was a guy she had hung on to for several years even though he never promised anything to her,, to be with TB.. sounds like rebound and spite at BD then being head over heels for TB.. ,

              • kayswhims
                October 1, 2013 at 9:02 AM

                TB avoids reading and doing paper work. Anyone else notice this? Maybe he can not read.

                • Jack Hole
                  October 1, 2013 at 9:43 AM

                  Yea, I hear what everybody is saying. It does not make sense that he would need to swindle his parents for their home while he has this huge (poorly prioritized) savings in the bank…maybe he had it and used it to woo her (as others said)? bc when did the thing w his parent’s house happen? His parents were in their home in the beginning (hence Teresa taking back her parent’s house keys from Melissa) but IDK, I just like to look at thing critically… and truthfully, these characters don’t make that easy bc they are so full of it!!!! 🙂

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          October 1, 2013 at 9:17 AM

          One good friend of mine is a definite bachelor. Very nice guy but just a little too difficult to deal with at times. He had a very nice house and finally about a year ago put in for some massive renovations (it’s now valued at about $2.8 mil). His mom had been gently prodding for years about him needing to get married already. She finally tossed in the towel. As she said “Well if I’m not going to be giving me grandchildren anytime soon to fuss over, I’ll just take over decorating his house for a hobby”…

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 1, 2013 at 9:19 AM

            Oh and my point actually was – there are single men and women out there that actually want a big house, whether for themselves to enjoy or because they might want a family. Just because someone is single doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to live in the kind oh house they want to.

            • Jack Hole
              October 1, 2013 at 9:44 AM

              I agree Saddle

              • Saddle_River_NJ
                October 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

                We’ve actually been questioned many times on why we have such a big house and no kids. As if the only people who “need” a big house are ones with kids. We don’t *need* a house this size but it’s something we had always wanted.

                • October 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

                  Are you still enjoying living in a big home? I’m ready to downsize now that the kids are out of the house…I feel like I’m always cleaning. But, I’m not much on decorating and making things look pretty, so that might have something to do with it.

    • GPM
      October 1, 2013 at 1:04 AM

      $200,000 in savings for his future kids college funds — and STILL he had to steal his elderly parents’ home out from under them?!?

      TSIL is full of s@#$ . . . which I suppose now we all know is both the literal and figurative truth!

    • October 1, 2013 at 9:26 AM

      Just enough money to buy his parents a decent little condo. Prick.

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 3:16 PM

        I respectfully disagree Gessie … he’s pond scum!

  13. kayswhims
    September 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    200k saved for college. If he thinks of his children like he does his parents, that is gone.

    • Laram
      September 30, 2013 at 8:38 PM

      Yep!!! I agree! Never have witnessed the selfishness for fame by anyone I know, this is getting disgusting.

    • MurfsGirl
      September 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM

      ITA, that money never existed. A 30 year old guy that chases 21 year old girls on a beach in Cancun and in a strip club is not saving for his potential kids’ future college fund.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 30, 2013 at 10:47 PM

      Lets see – he “saves” $200,000 for kids he doesn’t yet have, but then swindles his parents out of thier house so he can put the Autotuned Puta in a cardboard palace. Then again did his parents actually *own* the house at that point? If they had mortgaged it to the hilt to pay off the girl he raped in college maybe it wasn’t thiers for him to steal…

      • October 1, 2013 at 9:29 AM

        205. Joe Gorga, always thinking ahead, that guy. What a man. What a wonderful brother and son. I wish I had ten like him. Said no one ever.

  14. kayswhims
    September 30, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    One of the comments on Bravo blog mentioned TSIL’s book being VERY much like Dr. Laura’s. I don’t recall the tilte something about keeping a man. Anyone know the similarities in the two books?

    • September 30, 2013 at 9:06 PM

      I pay zero attention to these “famewhore” doctors. I did find Dr. Ruth funny, but wouldn’t take her advice.

    • EARetired
      October 1, 2013 at 2:30 AM

      I used to have Dr. Lauras book and the title was something like t”he care and feeding of husbands” . I don’t see amy simularity title or content,except that Dr Laura does talk about showing deference to your spouses preferences. But only in that very narrow scope could there be any. common thread to the two books.

      • kayswhims
        October 1, 2013 at 8:44 AM

        Thanks, I thought maybe she was being a copycat

        • October 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM

          or plagerizing

  15. September 30, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    OT .. How many of you still had to make OB-Gyn appts for their 21 old daughters as they didn’t want to go? I gave her until 4pm today to make the appt, this is after 3 weeks of trying to encourage her to independent. Sigh I made it for her at 4:30 today for this Wed and Grannie is going with her to make sure she actually goes as I’m working. The 1st time I heard her say mommy, my heart melted. Now when she says muuummmmy, I cringe and say what do you want as it’s something she wants me to do for her.

    Thanks for letting me vent.

    • September 30, 2013 at 8:52 PM

      22 here and my last appt was made by my momma and I almost cried when she couldn’t come. I was so scared!!! Every time I call her she says she cringes because she knows its because I want/need something lol

      • mzjulesaz
        September 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

        Rachel … thank you so much for that perspective. Sometimes I feel that I’m being over accommodating for/to her and or overprotective. It’s a fine line, as I’m trying really hard to give her space and then she pulls me back in to help. You helped me realize I should be glad she still pulls me back in.

        Thank you for that!

        • September 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM

          my mom fears that too she always says it but she also says she fears the day that we won’t need her more than being overprotective. IDK if it’s because they were raised differently -my grandmother wasn’t very lovey, or accommodating- that my mother, as well as her sisters, have raised us (my cousins, sisters and I) like that. Truth is, I love having that relationship with my mom, knowing that she will be there to help me when I need it, just like I am here to help her at all times too. I know I will always need my momma, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. She is my best friend 🙂

          • September 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM

            rachelfarfaraway – your mom speaks the truth – as our children grow up, the role of parenting and the relationship changes. For me, I become wistful at times, missing that feeling of being needed by your child. But, the upside – I look at my girls and am so proud of the confident and independent women they have grown up to be. I am so happy you have that relationship with your mom and you recognize that it really is a give and take of mutual love and respect of not only the mother/daughter dynamic but also who you both are as individuals. You and your mom are very lucky to have each other. 😀

            • September 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

              I get it Jeannie. I can’t wait to have a child of my own to know the feeling. Thank you so much for you beautiful words. I hate living so far away from mamma – 13 hours away – but we skype, text and talk all the time. I hope more than anything in the world that my mother is proud of me as you are with your daughters 🙂

          • September 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM

            Rachel, my own mother wasn’t very lovely or accommodating either and maybe that is why I allowed my daughter to stay dependent on me longer than I probably should have. I kind of had the best of both worlds there for awhile…she moved out shortly after graduating high school but still depended on me for a lot of silly things so I didn’t have to go cold turkey, lol. I will say, it has been comforting to see both of my kids doing their own things, but they still want Momma’s opinion and advice sometimes too.

        • September 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

          My younger daughter had to visit a gynocologist for the first time at the tender age of 13. It traumatized her so much that when she had another medical issue when she was in college I had to fly clear across the country to accompany her to the doctor’s. She is okay going to other doctors, but the oby/gyn is another story – she still struggles.

          mzujules – my older girl is now 37 and I rarely hear “muuummmmy” from her any more and, honestly, I miss it. So when I do, it warms my heart!

          • September 30, 2013 at 9:45 PM

            Thanks Jeannie … good perspective as always 🙂

          • September 30, 2013 at 11:37 PM

            Jeannie you are never too old to need mama or daddy for that matter. At 56 I was diagnosed with breast cancer. My parents went to all my oncology appointments with me and took turns being my chemo buddy. When I started my radiation treatments sometimes they both came but usually my dad drove me because my mom is a terrible driver! But I couldn’t have done it without them

            • hobbyath
              October 1, 2013 at 12:15 AM

              Yep, exactly the same thing. I went through chemo, radio, brachy, thermotheraphy with my parents not my kids, not my weaker half. Now I am thinking may’ve been wrong, they have no clue or whatever… I feel abandoned and lonely – they have no clue

              • October 1, 2013 at 2:20 AM

                {{{{hobby}}}} I’m glad your parents were there for you. I’m sorry to hear that you feel abandoned and lonely. Talk to your kids, I know it’s hard but give them a clue. You were not wrong, you went with what was comfortable for you. Now consider letting others help you on your road to recovery.

              • October 1, 2013 at 10:02 AM

                Oh hobbyath – I think you mean by “they” your children and your weaker half? If that is the case, maybe you could sit them down all together and tell them exactly how you are feeling. Hopefully, they will really “hear” what you have to say and understand you need them tremendously. I also hope you have reached out to local organizations who do a tremendous amount of volunteer work to help out and support breast cancer survivors.

                ((((hobbyath))))

            • October 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM

              Very true becca – even when they leave us, we still need our parents. And while we think they aren’t there any more for support and to lean on, they really are – one just has to look for that support in a different way and it will be found.

              Hugs to you becca for your courage.

              • October 1, 2013 at 10:18 AM

                Thank you Jeannie. Hugs to you as well. I know you must be missing your mama but I am just as sure that her spirit is right there with you everyday. I am 2 and a half years cancer free now and stronger every day. And my lovely parents, who are in their 80’s are as supportive as ever. And Hobby please don’t feel abandoned or lonely, we are all really friendly and supportive here I am finding out. And talk to your kids. Make them understand what you went through and how you feel. And I am sending you a big hug (((((HUG))))) It will all be ok

                • October 1, 2013 at 2:32 PM

                  becca, Sorry what you have gone through. I can’t wait until your cancer free for 5 years. They tell me 5 years cancer free and you pretty much have beat it for ever. Best of everything to you.

    • MurfsGirl
      September 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

      I made my own 1st Ob-Gyn appt when I was 19 because my parents were still living in Germany and I was having problems (I was in college in the States at the time). It was very scary, but necessary. I’m still here to talk about it.

      • October 1, 2013 at 2:39 PM

        Murfs, My mother made my first ob appointment for me at age 16 because I was engaged and needed birth control. Thank God I went so young, cuz the found I had cervical cancer. It has came back 3 times now but it’s a fairly easy cancer to treat when found early.

    • September 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

      Oh Jules, they continue to “test” us and they always win. I swear when my daughter was in her teens and early 20’s, I told my friends that she could just suck the life right out of me. I understand exactly what you are feeling.

      When my daughter and I spoke, on her 30th birthday, she exclaimed, “I am finally an adult”. I became an adult at 18 and at 21, I was given the full privileges of being an adult. When did the rules change?

      • suedechik79
        October 1, 2013 at 3:23 AM

        The rules change when the elites give us the orders. We throw our kids into state institutions (public schools = mind prisons), extend their childhood by providing them even MORE “education” (college)….30 sounds about right to me. Id write just about anything off someone did before age 25 at least, especially if they went to college.

    • September 30, 2013 at 10:54 PM

      Embarrassed to say…yep, I had to do that too. Mine used to not like to do ANYTHING over the phone. She would even beg me to make her hair appointment, had her roommate call and order pizza, crap like that. I think maybe the last appointment I made for her OB/GYN was when she was 20. She’s almost 23 now. I DID make a hair appointment for her just last week, but she was out of town and needed to get in the next day if possible so there was a valid reason for that. Kids…!

      • September 30, 2013 at 10:54 PM

        I will have to say though Jules, it’s our own fault…

        • October 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM

          I know Bree. I’m an overprotective mom bitch from hell. She is making her own hair/brow waxing appts now as I just look at her and stare and say …. hmmm wow your roots are really showing or gee I hope you pluck before you go out. Baby steps.

          • October 1, 2013 at 12:46 AM

            On one hand, I liked to be needed, on the other, I was like “REALLY?!!” She’s come out of it though since she moved out though, thankfully. And yes, BABY STEPS!!

    • Anonymous
      September 30, 2013 at 11:49 PM

      I go through the same with my 2 witches: 19 & 26. I know exactly what you mean… mummy…

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 3:15 PM

        LOL

    • hobbyath
      October 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM

      I am with you on this one. I have 19 & 26 at home witches (love them to death)

      • jennacheryl
        October 1, 2013 at 1:34 AM

        Rachel my parents are my best friends too. I previously posted too Buck Henry I believe that I am suing a large bank for wrongful foreclosure. My mom and dad dealt with everything on the east coast since I was in the southwest for a large part of this(my house is on the east coast where my parents live and I just moved back too). This past year was he’ll on earth for my entire family but even dealing with the serious medical issues for my dad my mom was calling my attorney(who is the best ever) meeting him &making sure he was doing his job. When my in-laws started having rx issues also my mom was cooking them dinner @ once ever 2weeks bc my hubby and I were not here to do it. In short my mom is one of my 2 super heroes (my dad is my other one)

    • Laram
      October 1, 2013 at 12:48 AM

      Ugh, Jules, what age did you take your daughter to gyno? I have a near 17 yr old, and had 3 surgeries by 23 for endometriosis. Can’t believe my baby is this old. But I wondered to get her in.

      • October 1, 2013 at 1:25 AM

        Lara, the recommendation is between ages 13 and 15 for their first appointment (or when they become sexually active, whichever comes first) , just for education and discussion and to help them become more comfortable with the whole idea of it — a pelvic exam or pap smear is usually not done at this time unless it is warranted (issues, sexual activity). The first time I took my daughter in it was for a minor issue (age 15 I think) and I stayed with her during the exam (at her request) and then had the dr. and nurse practitioner have a private consultation with her after she got dressed just in case she felt like she couldn’t be forthcoming to him with me in there. From about age 14 on, I would also do this with her pediatrician. My kids and I have always had pretty open conversations about sex and sexuality but I didn’t want to hide my head in the sand either… Since mine needed a pelvic exam, they were very careful in how far they went with the exam and explained each step to her before they did it — she didn’t need the full pelvic exam, thankfully — but I was very impressed with how everything was handled.

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 1:42 AM

        I’m ashamed to say it … this will be her 1st. I have been trying for 5 years to get to go willingly and I finally said you are going (I know shame on me). I would encourage you take her now to at least get a baseline pap.

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM

        And don’t get me wrong I made the appt’s and she refused to go.

    • elemcee
      October 1, 2013 at 11:21 AM

      Jules, I put my foot down and made my daughter go last Monday! She is 22 now, and I told her I would drag her there by her hair if she did not go. When it comes to medical issues, and I put my foot down, the children know I mean it. She was relieved and said it was not bad at all.

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM

        Glad to hear you made your daughter go and she realized it is not that bad. Mammos are way worse IMHO, but I’m not telling my daughter that.

        • NinaK
          October 1, 2013 at 3:41 PM

          Oh no! I am going for my first Mammo next week. So nervous… 😦 😦 😦

          • mzjulesaz
            October 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM

            They are just uncomfortable and I wish they would ban them and do ultrasounds as they are more accurate. Good luck and don’t forget to shave your pits 😉

            • NinaK
              October 1, 2013 at 3:55 PM

              LOL!! Okay I’ll remember. In fact, I am way overdue on shaving them… TSIL would not be proud…

          • October 1, 2013 at 7:47 PM

            I don’t find the mammograms to be that bad. Granted, my boobies are nothing to write home about (or even close — small A) so I don’t know how bad it is for someone who has actual boobies 😀

      • October 1, 2013 at 5:05 PM

        I took one look at my daughter’s boyfriend in high school, piercing blue eyes, gorgeous like a model and put her on the pill for acne. Even though she didn’t have any. Turns out ten years later he is gay.

        • October 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM

          How funny! I know a lot of girls who’s mom’s got them the implant in 6th or 7th grade. I think that is a little young myself, unless there is an indication that it is needed, but I understand the thought behind it. Mine would have nothing to do with going on birth control and promised she would let me know when she was ready. And she did. I worried about her being at a party and drinking and making a stupid choice. I know “someone else” who did that a time or two 🙂

          • October 1, 2013 at 7:53 PM

            Thank goodness she turned out nothing like that person I “know”.

    • October 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

      mom – sounds like it’s time to cut the apron strings….

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM

        I wish their was recipe for cutting the strings.

    • Wilbur
      October 2, 2013 at 1:07 PM

      I solved the problem with my 19 year old, I made appointments for both of us on the same day so we went together. Now she is 23 and moved out of state and I have to remind her to find a dr. And make an appoint to go. I now have to go alone and I can’t tell you how much I miss our mother daughter appointments. I also get the crying phone calls when there is a love life problem or a work problem or an out of sorts day where the kid just needs her mom. To tell you the truth, I cherish those calls. I am over 50 and my mom has been gone for 10 years and I miss her more than I can say.

  16. Andrea from Alabama
    September 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    What bitch?. How do you get Anthony from Gincarlo? And somebody better tell right now that nobody listen to this whores advice on nothing, except stating your mouth and ass out.

    • September 30, 2013 at 10:15 PM

      I can’t believe I’m even talking about this woman. She said they named him Giancarlo after her father-in-law but Mr. Gorga’s name is Giacinto. She is a moron.

      • September 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

        It was a typo, don’t ya know? 🙂

        • September 30, 2013 at 10:35 PM

          🙂
          You know, I think that bothers me more than the actual material. I’m a nerd who is distressed about the current state of the English language as it is. Her typos and errors just infuriate me. The fact that she was published when so many talented, intelligent people never make it out of the slush pile indicates a sad state of affairs for this country. Melissa just sucks on every level! Ok, rant over.

          • mzjulesaz
            September 30, 2013 at 10:50 PM

            I completely agree (but the material bugs the heck out of me too). I have typos left and right on blogs, but it’s a blog. There are so many talented people out there trying to get published both in recording and writing and she churns out her shit? It’s a disgrace and shows it’s all about the dollar and Bravo paid for this book to get published.

            • hobbyath
              October 1, 2013 at 12:19 AM

              I beg your pardon – you do not leave ANY STONE UNTURNED when you are publishing a book , come on.

              • mzjulesaz
                October 1, 2013 at 12:21 AM

                I was agreeing with the grammar, sorry if I did not articulate it well. It’s a joke (the book) between the grammatical errors and lies … I can’t see how this was published.

              • hobbyath
                October 1, 2013 at 1:28 AM

                I am happy to find people passionate about the English language. All this: u 2, 4 u, etc. infuriates me

                • October 1, 2013 at 2:03 AM

                  Social media will be the death of the English language.

                • October 1, 2013 at 2:41 AM

                  I’ve been reading since I was 3 and I was an English major. I am still a heavy reader and whenever I find typos in books, I sigh heavily. As mzjulesaz said, blogs are one thing. Like texts or quick emails, not a big deal to find errors. However, newspaper articles, books, things that should have meaning, I feel like people just don’t treat them with respect anymore. So on top of that, not fact checking your own frigging family just adds another level of disgust for Melissa to me.

                  I don’t believe she’s a brainwashed victim which is why the material means less to me. I think she’s just using the book to eventually get out of her marriage. Anyone who buys it would have to be lacking some brain cells so that’s on them. The rest of us know to ignore everything she wrote and certainly not to take it as advice.

                  • October 1, 2013 at 9:25 AM

                    Well I’ll tell you one thing, I am going to dot all my [I]s and cross all my [t]s from now on ,of course you wont hear from me as much because it has taken me {3 1/2 minutes} to write this much ,Iwill do better.
                    I finished 9th grade but in 1972 I went back and got my GED.I mostly am from the school of hard knocks.but It’s been a good life .
                    I wouldn’t change a thing, may would accept the LORD sooner ,if to do over.{Ok now 9 minutes.}
                    Love to all,and have a wonderful day our Famebly
                    Does this look good?

                    • elemcee
                      October 1, 2013 at 11:26 AM

                      Celi, your posts are just fine. I do not worry about grammar here. Do not take time out of your busy life to worry about these things! We are always typing too fast to worry punctuation and spelling! I do not even check name spelling.

                    • October 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

                      Hi Ms. Celi!! I think they are talking about professional articles and such. Like when people are PAID to write and edit…not things such as blogs, texts, emails, etc. You’re just fine the way you are!!!

                      I haven’t been in communication on here much lately…how are you?

                    • October 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM

                      And Ms. Celi, I love you to pieces, you know that, we all do…please stay just the way you are and stop taking everything to heart. Hugs!!

                    • October 1, 2013 at 2:47 PM

                      It looks fabulous! There are casual situations where typos just aren’t that big a deal. For someone who allegedly trained to be a teacher like Melissa, the standards are just a little higher. It’s like letter writing. All the things I’ve learned about writing letters has gone out the window which is fine as long as people stick to a format and proofread. It depresses me when I receive something that’s supposed to be official and there’s a mistake.

                      If there are no standards maintained then at the rate we’re going, everyone’s going to be typing and writing things like “C u on Wed. Lol. Ur funnee!” all the time. I know adults who went to college who can’t tell the difference between “have” and “of”. As in “I should of known”. So don’t worry, I’m not criticizing anyone here. Just super irritated that Melissa got a book deal.

                    • October 1, 2013 at 2:50 PM

                      lol celi i am certianly no grammer whiz or punctuation expert! i mean if i have to compose a business email ( to my atty for example) or a resume then yes i will punctuate and capitalize and spellcheck and all of that LOL> i don’t really see much of it on this page but on others ( ROL, ect) i do see there are some “grammar nazi’s” from time to time. but here i just type it as it comes to me ( or otherwise i may lose my train of thought)

                    • October 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM

                      celi – one of the many great things about commenting on FW – we don’t have to worry about dotting our “i”s and crossing our “t”s. We don’t have to worry about spelling mistakes and typos unlike other blogs. So don’t worry about it – just keep expressing yourself the way you do. All’s good!!!

                      We all love our celi!!!

            • October 1, 2013 at 2:35 AM

              Amen. Giant load of crap.

              • October 1, 2013 at 8:08 PM

                hi ms bree, I have missed you,you been on vacation or just fed up as we are. ?

                • October 1, 2013 at 11:53 PM

                  OK ALL OF you thank you an I already forgot down stream what I had said i’d do, love you ALL

        • September 30, 2013 at 10:47 PM

          In her blog she says the book wasn’t meant to be taken “literally”. Wow! And all of this time I thought that was the point of the written word. Thank you TSIL for clearing that up for me

          • yup
            September 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM

            so…don’t put the chinese food on a plate?

          • jennacheryl
            October 1, 2013 at 1:36 AM

            So is she trying to become the next Chaucer?

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          September 30, 2013 at 10:51 PM

          It’s all Teresa’s fault – she offered to “proof read” it for The Nasty Tart and put all those typos in to make her look bad.

          • mzjulesaz
            September 30, 2013 at 11:59 PM

            LOL … yep I’m sure of it!

        • Sharon
          September 30, 2013 at 11:19 PM

          Teresa made her write that.

      • EARetired
        October 1, 2013 at 2:50 AM

        Doesn’t anyone else remember Teresa saying she named Gia for her father? I do. Very early in the show she talked about how they named the girls,Gia for her father, Gabriella was after a grandmother I think,Milania for the city of Milan(they were there early in pregnancy) and Audriana because Tre loves the sound created by the AU in itlaian language,or that’s what was said.

  17. mrsgsp
    September 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    First off….how the hell did she get a book deal? Secondly, I think she meant to say she got pregnant right away so she had a “hold” on him and his money. Also, I thought Kathy, Rosie, Teresa,and Joe all said they grew up together until their parents had a falling out when they were teenagers. But yet in Meho’s fictional fire starter, he didn’t have any cousins to play with? Can she please just go away!

    • Grand-Beth
      October 1, 2013 at 4:11 PM

      Jules,
      I wonder if the tbbreality has a connection to A.C and sirens?? …..his ugly face was the first thing I saw, then when the writer gave a ” kudos to sirens ” told me a lot.

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 7:00 PM

        At fame’s request we have been asked not to discuss other bloggers. I have my opinions but won’t comment 🙂

        • October 1, 2013 at 7:36 PM

          In this case mzjules, I will express my opinion, and I agree that TBB has a connection to B/S and writes blogs that favor them and the cast.

          • Luvfamewhorgas
            October 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM

            I have read several of TBB’s articles and always found them totally biased towards production. My 2 and a half cents. I actually read way to much on twitter and best I can surmise is these people spin and spin and spin. So much so I have a loose theory that Bravo actually runs or has interns who tweet from accounts. Some are almost as bad as the editing. I know I need a real hobby. And so many completely and totally contradict themselves. And I don’t mean only TBB. I mean random accounts of “individuals” and “bloggers” and etc. Twitter is actually more entertaining than the shows and that is the truth.

          • mzjulesaz
            October 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM

            I love you fame!

          • mzjulesaz
            October 2, 2013 at 1:59 AM

            Yep and they kiss her butt wheras Tre doesn’t. She and Jac are buds, but Tre is hard to approach at events (per TBB) — she’d scare me too if I were Tre.

            I’ll shut up before I get kicked off my favorite site!

  18. kayswhims
    September 30, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Hearing I'm mentioned again on HW's?? Hmmm maybe I'll just go back & at least get paid for it ; )— Dina Manzo (@dinamanzo) September 30, 2013

  19. Lady Heather
    September 30, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Hi if you didn’t read my comments on the last story I’m a Dominatrix and was asked to comment on Melissa’s book. I thought I’d post here as well as there as it is probably more relevant here:

    The Gorgas book absolutely does advocate marital rape, and although they are back-tracking and saying it’s about role-play, if it was about role-play then they would have specified that. Even if they did mean to talk about role-play anyone reading the book who hasn’t seen their back-tracking interviews will take it as it is written: that it’s ok to rape your wife. And considering how much of a misogynist Joey is I believe he really thinks that raping your wife is ok. The book is disgusting in so many ways.

    Anyone who is into domination or bondage or role-play knows that it is so important for it to be discussed first so you can work out what each other’s limits are, and so that you can agree upon a safe-word in case you get uncomfortable or it’s too much and you want to stop-for instance if one of my clients has reached their tolerance for pain, or is getting claustrophobic etc etc, they can say their safe-word-for instance ‘red’ and I will immediately stop. Anyone recommending trying roleplay or domination etc is very very remiss and irresponsible if they do not discuss limits and safe-words at the same time.

    Domination is about giving up control of your body to another person AT YOUR OWN REQUEST AND NEVER AGAINST YOUR WILL, it can be very rewarding especially for people who are usually very in control in their lives, and is a great stress reliever. However really the person being dominated is always in control underneath it all (or you could put it that- they can take back control any time they want as at any time they can use their safe-word.

    Anyone who is interested in this subject btw is very welcome to ask more questions.

    Role-playing, bondage, fetishes and domination can all be about sex and fun in the bedroom. However often there is no sex involved in domination especially the harder forms like humiliation and punishment (whips and chains etc), domination is about power and control at the core of it and some people feel the need to give up that control to another person to truly be free. But DOMINATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RAPE. The people who like to dominate other people in a sexual way or a controlling way generally do not wish to hurt or upset the person in any way unless that is what the person who they are dominating wants, and if they do want to so something against the submissive’s will they have serious problems. People who like to dominate like to do it to people who enjoy being submissive and as most people, unlike the Gorgas, have a moral compass they will always stop if they hear the safe-word.

    ANYONE DOMINATING AGAINST THE OTHER PERSON’S WILL IS AN ABUSER whether it be physically, sexually, or mentally. And I believe Joey to be an abuser.

    • October 1, 2013 at 12:35 AM

      Heather,

      I appreciate your taking the time to share this with us. You have a great story, heck, I’d love to read your book!

      TB is an abusive asshole, TSIL is nuts for her arguments that this was just role playing. If that was true, hwy did she not say indicate the advice you gave above?

      She’s just trying to capitalize on 50 shades and probably will. But shame on her.

      • Lady Heather
        October 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM

        Thank you mzjulesaz, I’m actually doing a distance learning course on creative writing so maybe one day you will! Being housebound at the moment distance learning is a great way for me to try and keep my mind active.

        • mzjulesaz
          October 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM

          WTG Heather! I wish you the best of luck in getting better and finding things to keep you busy.

        • October 1, 2013 at 8:05 PM

          Heather I hope today is a good one for you. I can’t even imagine being in your position, it makes me so grateful for what I have and what I’m able to do. Hope you continue to be apart of this wonderful site.

          • Lady Heather
            October 2, 2013 at 12:31 AM

            Thank you ever so much to both mzjulesaz and Gloria. On thursday I go see my pain management specialist for a follow up and I do feel like I can tell him I’m starting to get a little better which is a really big thing for me as I’ve been going downhill for a while so just being able to say I’m managing to start the long climb back up is a big thing for me.

    • GPM
      October 1, 2013 at 1:51 AM

      Thank you so much for that really thoughtful and comprehensive response, Heather!

      36 years ago I was “date raped” (although there was no name for it then) and to this day I have only told two people — my husband (we married the following year) and an acquaintance I told 9 years ago because she was in a position to protect young girls. 27 years after the event, the depth of emotion I felt when I told her shocked me. I was a virgin when I was raped.

      This event occurred at the vanguard of the Women’s Movement in the U.S. when — to keep things simple and unambiguous, so there could be no misunderstanding — the first “no means no” campaign took root and I cannot tell you how angry and sad I am that TB and TSIL are undermining this simple principle that can protect both parties, provided there is no intention to rape.

      It blows my mind that there could still be men like Joe Gorga in the U.S. or, more tragically, women like Melissa Gorga. All one has to do is look at the issue of rape around the world today — the young Saudi Arabian woman who was gang raped and then flogged 200 times as “punishment” or the plight of young women in India, one of whom is raped every 22 minutes by one commentators reckoning, and South Africa, which has the highest reported incident of rape in the world — to see how tenuous our hold on the safety of our bodies truly is. We have politicians like Rep. Tom Akin of Missouri who just last year made the ludicrous statement that, “If it’s a legitimate rape the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing [referring to conception] down.” And let’s not forget Rep. Tom Smith of Pennsylvania, who said he could understand the struggle of women who get pregnant from rape because his daughter got pregnant without getting married first.

      I ***grieve*** for the young man or woman who reads this book. I suppose there are many advice books on the market that aren’t worth either the paper they’re printed on or the broadband signal that delivers them, but I would truly hate to see a young woman hurt and a young man’s life ruined because he listened to the Gorgas!

      • Lady Heather
        October 1, 2013 at 9:07 AM

        I’m so sorry for what you went through GPM. I was assaulted at the age of 13 but was lucky enough to be able to get away before he could rape me. However it still haunts me (I’m in my 30s now, so I can’t imagine what it must have been, and still probably is, like for you. You have my support and I’m sure you have the support of everyone in the Fame-ily. x x x

      • October 1, 2013 at 8:09 PM

        GPM, I have a feeling that is exactly what Joey did when his parents bailed him out. He most likely was on a date when the girl refused to have sex with him so he took it anyway. Date rape is no different from stalking a women while she is jogging (just an example) and jumping out of the bushes and raping her. Sorry you had to go through such a terrible ordeal.

        • Lady Heather
          October 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM

          Thank you Gloria and you are 100% right. When a girl says no it means no, and raping your wife is just the same as raping a stranger.

          Role-play is something that is agreed upon by both parties and although you may say no during it but that would ONLY be ok if you have both discussed this as a shared fantasy, agreed to try it, and have an alternative safe-word (something you can say instead of no if you want to stop) agreed upon in your previous discussions and, though I believe that the Gorgas aren’t discussing role-play they are discussing marital rape in that disgusting book. If they are trying to recommend role-play to their readers (especially considering their intended demographic-young and, in the cases of many, inexperienced women) in what they say is an advice book they are unbelievably remiss not discussing how to make role-play safe:discussing limits and that there must always be a safe-word and most importantly both parties must be willing to take part in a shared fantasy which then will be mutually gratifying.

    • suedechik79
      October 1, 2013 at 3:26 AM

      He sounds like an out of control, roided up Leo that has the potential to be a very nice guy (and for some reason, hes chosen to bury that part of him). Shes used to the abuse, she attracts it and asks for it. Both parties in an abusive relationship are responsible for the abuse, whether giving it or receiving it.

    • surfergirl
      October 1, 2013 at 5:49 AM

      Thank you. My fiance and I engage in BDSM on a regular basis and we both get incredibly frustrated, angry and annoyed by false and dangerous representations of BDSM play like in that 50 Shades of Crap book which is basically a story about an abusive relationship, crime shows that often tie this lifestyle into criminal acts, and now these two idiots with their backtracking on what is a clear description, argument and excuse for marital rape in Gorgon’s book. They should be getting nailed to the wall in every promotional interview instead of being allowed to make light of something that still happens every day in this country and around the world.

      Joe Gorga is a prime example of what a misogynist acts like which is why I have detested him from day one. That moment when he went to the book signing and made Teresa read out loud her inscription as she cried and he with a smug look of satisfaction watched her instead of comforting her sticks in my mind. It made my blood boil. He gets off on seeing women in submissive positions where they’re completely out of control and under his whether through verbal and/or physical abuse. Despite all the crap that’s going on in the Giudice’s lives right now, I just know that part of his hatred for Teresa (because it can’t possibly be anything but) is his watching her be in control of a budding empire where she is successful, capable and her own boss (and clearly supported by her husband who he, no doubt, doesn’t believe is a “real man”.) She obviously isn’t behaving like a proper woman which is why she doesn’t deserve proper respect but does any woman in his life really? Are we to believe that the way he treats his wife and the way he treats his sister are in anyway respectful to his mother? He’s a monstrous pig!

      • October 1, 2013 at 7:02 AM

        Surfergirl, thanks for the reminder about the book signing part. I too thought that was one of the cruelest things I had ever witnessed, minor as it could have been taken, I think it said a lot about him.

      • Lady Heather
        October 1, 2013 at 9:16 AM

        Very well said surfergirl. I agree with you about 50 shades of gray. However even 50 shades of grey discusses safe-words etc. This book by Melissa is really disgusting in so many ways for it’s misogyny, is irresponsibility, and the fact that most of it is a barefaced lie.

      • October 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

        Joe Gorga ordering Teresa to read out loud her book inscription to him was one of my first blogs. Thanks for the reminder, surfergirl. Here’s the link:

        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/melissa-hates-teresa-with-a-passion/

    • Honnie Badger
      October 1, 2013 at 9:37 AM

      You are truly so cool! BTW, Heather, I do hope you are feeling much better every day!

      • Lady Heather
        October 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        Thank you so much Honnie. Having like-minded people to interact with here really makes a difference to me. It helps me to take my mind off the stress in my life. I think I am on the up healthwise at the moment and I just try to take each day as it comes.

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:08 PM

      By the way a big warm welcome to you Lady Heather. I posted a welcome to you on Sunday, but for some reason it did not go through, which sometimes happens when I sign into that Gravatar program.

      • Lady Heather
        October 2, 2013 at 12:36 AM

        Thank you momajackie. I have received so many warm welcomes here I’m so happy! I have never really opened up when posting on sites before for fear of being judged, but you have all been so welcoming. x x x

        • October 2, 2013 at 8:02 AM

          I look forward to your thoughts. You remind me of Charla, the lady on my Gravatar. I’m sure your post will encourage me to open up more.

          • Lady Heather
            October 2, 2013 at 11:13 AM

            Aaah thank you so much Kay! And I really do feel safe here to open up and I’m sure you are too. x x x

    • mazeycat
      October 2, 2013 at 12:42 AM

      I think on some level subbies always know they are in control and only experiencing a surrogate of powerlessness. The healthy ones at least. Just like good doms understand that the only person they are truly controlling is themselves. And that control should be total. As a switch, I have experience with both sides. Boundaries and consent are SUCH a huuuuge deal in the lifestyle, anyone who has ever been involved in it would know that. Trust needs to be absolute. No one should ever play dominance games with someone who has issues with controlling their temper/is subject to violent, explosive outbursts like Joe Gorga; that sounds like a great way to get killed. There’s a difference between a dom and a sexual sadist. At any rate Melissa’s transparent attempt to recast Joe’s comments as personal stories about their private kinks doesn’t work. He wasn’t recounting their personal experiences he was making blanket statements about all women and advising other men to ignore feminine rejection and force sex on their partner in the face of outright refusal. Rape. It pisses me off when ignorant tourists try to associate sick, abusive shit they have done or tolerated/rationalized in a relationship with D&S/BDSM.

      • Lady Heather
        October 2, 2013 at 11:15 AM

        Very well said mazey.

  20. September 30, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Lady Heather are you Heather Maclean ?

    • Lady Heather
      September 30, 2013 at 11:44 PM

      No I’m not. I’m not Heather Maclean and I’m not quite sure who that is. My real name isn’t heather at all but since I’ve been very open about my personal life in various posts I use Lady Heather who was the dominatrix in CSI.

      • October 1, 2013 at 12:43 AM

        Heather Maclean is one of Teresa’s BFF’s and co-author of her cookbooks.

    • hobbyath
      October 1, 2013 at 12:24 AM

      pfe, un called for…steeler

    • October 1, 2013 at 5:08 PM

      OMG.

  21. September 30, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Watching the Voice — love this show! Does anyone else watch and is it weird to cry when they buzz and turn around and clap when they pick the coach you wanted for them? TSIL these are singers honey.

    • Laram
      October 1, 2013 at 12:57 AM

      The Voice is a family affair in our home. Kids love it.

      @Lady Heather, I admire you for first warning all that your comments may be unorthodox, and asked to be welcome. I admire you for being yourself.

      Do I want you knowing my husband, nope (haha), but I would love to know more about you as a person and fame-ily as the post is. Welcome to a great site, with open minded people. Xo

      • Lady Heather
        October 1, 2013 at 9:22 AM

        Lol!!! I live in the UK so if you are in the USA it is very unlikely I’ll be meeting your husband!!! Thank you ever so much for the lovely and welcoming words. x x x

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:15 PM

      I have never watched this program but would love to give it a try. (jules, seems like I have the same taste of programs as you) can anyone tell me when it’s on?

      • mzjulesaz
        October 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM

        Monday and Tuesdays on NBC … 7pm PST and prolly 8 EST .

  22. October 1, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    I didn’t watch the finale last night. I decided it wasn’t worth it to watch the poor editing & bad editing. Instead I watched the season premiere of Once Upon a Time which was far more interesting than RHWONJ. Reading the comments from the previous post & this one I can see I made the right decision.

    • October 1, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      Once Upon a Time and Revenge … love love love

    • kayswhims
      October 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM

      We watched Once Upon a Time also. Since Henry is Rumple’s grandson, something magical Peter Pan needs him to do I think, like the stick that worked for Rumple’s son. I am wondering how Captain Hook survived so long, unless he is working for Peter Pan also.

      • October 1, 2013 at 1:51 AM

        Great theory Kay! Everytime I get a theory they blow me away!

      • October 1, 2013 at 2:44 AM

        Omg. I feel so dumb for not making the connection between Henry and blood magic. I thought Peter was just going to cut his heart out.

    • October 1, 2013 at 9:37 AM

      ONCE UPON A TIME – Finally got to watch it and kay’s comment got me to thinking. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. While “Neal/Baelfire”, the adult, wound up in the Enchanted Forest, didn’t Baelfire the boy get taken from Wendy’s window and brought to Neverland? If so, wouldn’t that make it possible for him to meet up with Henry?

      Also, yes, I believe kay is right – Peter wants Henry because of his blood connection with Rumple. Obviously, Rumple and Peter have had some kind of interaction and for Mr.Gold/Rumple/Dark One to say on the ship that all of them should be very afraid of Peter speaks volumes that whatever Peter is capable of, it must be far more sinister. When Peter’s “boy” handed him that rag doll, Rumple crumbled. Wonder if he, at one time, was a lost boy and escaped? Or if that rag doll was Baelfire’s???

  23. hobbyath
    October 1, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    By the way, how Italian is she? What is her claim? Neither one of them was born in Italy. Joe became Americanized – entitled, deserves better, brat. …ugh can not stand them both.

    • ILovePretzels
      October 1, 2013 at 2:33 AM

      Melissa does not look Italian. Her mother, slight but not fully. Her father looks Puerto Rican but the type that is mixed with African. Look at her kids hair and complexion especially Antonia. The fact that she plays herself off to be this full Italian with “traditional-Italian family values” is a joke.

      • October 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

        She said it herself that people used to say she looked like the Mowry twins from “Sister, Sister”. I’m black and Melissa’s hair, pre-relaxer looks much thicker and curlier than typical Italian curly hair. It looks kinky. She’s also definitely had a nose job, I don’t care what she says about makeup contouring. She looks just like her dad so I agree with ILovePretzels. I think there’s black blood on her dad’s side whether he’s Italian or Hispanic. Some of it definitely went to Antonia.

        • October 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

          She is on her second nose job.

        • Miami53
          October 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

          Terese in her teen age pictures and Katfish too had the same kind of hair as Antonia. Very curly. I don’t know if they had perms to get that look.

      • difromnyc
        October 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        As a puerto rican i’m offended that you would consider Melissa one. Not for nothing but Sicily is borderline Africa. Beyond that, Puerto Ricans run the spectrum of colors from blonde and blue eyed to dark skinned. We’re a beautiful mix breed that only associate ourselves as Puerto rican and not by a color, tone or look. I wish people would stop being so ethnically ignorant.

        • Jeannie5233
          October 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM

          Hey di – I’m with you! You are 1000000% right!

          I have posted a gazillion times on this topic, trying to explain that appearance does not necessarily make someone a certain ethnicity and genetics are complicated. So tired of going over and over this topic at great length and detail explaining it all.. Geez!! One more time, my three grandsons born to the same parents look nothing alike – one is so Italian and the other so Irish and the other is a complete mix. That is just one of so many examples and proof I have given every time this topic comes up.

          I have no doubt Meilssa is of Italian heritage but she does not really seem to follow much the old Italian traditions which are handed down generation to generation.

          • October 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM

            Yes Jeannie, I have witnessed you trying to explain ethnicity and genetics several times on here. Especially when someone brings up little Joey not looking like his father. Genetics can be very tricky. I have 5 siblings, all from the same parents, and none of us look alike, same thing with my two boys. I have been asked numerous times if they are full blood brothers.

  24. Egg roll
    October 1, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    Melissa wasn’t even smart enough to know her own families names. Take a piece out of her book read it and return it! My book has gone thru a few of us and now it’s going back! Thanks for the funnies Melissa!

    • Miami53
      October 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM

      Can people return books that they have read already and if they do I assume she makes less money.

  25. Sackem
    October 1, 2013 at 2:48 AM

    So family orientated that they publicly destroy a relative.

  26. Spaghetti Kitten
    October 1, 2013 at 3:48 AM

    Just proves you CANNOT make this stuff up right? Hilarious blog – as always, thanks Famey! 🙂 The accompanying PHOTO from the actual book is priceless. Nope, nothing “out of context” here @ Famewhorgas lol!

    The idiocy of these excer[ts makes our other discussion about whether this chick has a nefarious to utilize the “joements” in her future, inevitable divorce moot imo.

    Melissa Gorga really is just an idiot.

    (Not to mention the publisher of this mess. St Martin Press, right?)

    In other news, ordered the Milania Aragon Oil from the link on ROLine…the special was pay only shipping & handling. My curly frizzy hair DRINKS it.

  27. surfergirl
    October 1, 2013 at 5:31 AM

    I guess the publishing world continues not to employ fact checkers for even the simplest things that could easily be found in a basic Google search. I’m going to go ahead and blame Twilight and all the crappy writing it inspired even though it’s completely unrelated. I just think Melissa Whorga is about as talented a writer as Stephanie Meyer. 50 Shades of Gorgon Crap indeed.

  28. RahRah
    October 1, 2013 at 7:04 AM

    seeing this broad in a real light I think she wrote the book herself so she could later throw it in T’s face that she doesn’t use a ghostwriter but she should have..cause this book sounds like a bust and the butt of jokes.

  29. October 1, 2013 at 7:27 AM

    Melissa Gorga lies about everything, she posted on her face book that the the book was #3 in marriage and #4 in love and romance, when it was actually #41 and #30. Remember the iTunes? I never saw her on the charts at all, but she said she was in the top 10, I believe. The worse part is the blogs and tabloids report her statements as fact. Just like Wendy Williams stating on national TV that JTG said terrible things about a child. I don’t know how I feel about the
    Greeks, but I do follow his tweets and have never seen him attack a child. It is so irresponsible.

  30. October 1, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    May I ask someone please to post Teresa’s blog ,? I cant get it.
    Thank you in advance.
    Celi

    • October 1, 2013 at 10:09 AM

      Here you go, Celi:

      Teresa: “I Wouldn’t Wish This Situation on Anyone.”
      Teresa Giudice

      Teresa opens up about the finale and the interview with Andy.
      Posted by Teresa Giudice – 18 hours ago

      Hello Sweethearts!

      I can’t believe another season is over. And I can’t believe it ended like the last two did: with everyone trying to blame me and make me apologize. I’ve apologized more times than I can count, but if that’s what my brother needs, I’ll keep apologizing until my tongue falls out. I’ve never tried to hurt him or Melissa. I only care about my family. Hopefully we’ve wiped the slate clean and can start over from here now. Since my family is in the public eye, we’ve got to be strong, we’ve got to support each other, and we’ve got to stand united. I never want to go back to that dark place with my family again.

      I’m not going to talk too much about Penny and Johnny because I don’t have anything much to say about them. I’ve met them a few times, I knew she wanted to be on the show, and I stayed as far away as I could from whatever rumors she had or didn’t have on Melissa. It’s a small town though, I guess I didn’t stay far enough away! How did she have my phone number? I have no idea, but most people around her do have it. It’s easy to get. I’m not a super secretive person. I give it out to everyone. To me, that’s no big deal. If we were really working together, she would have texts from me and photos of hanging out at my house with me and my kids — like all my other friends do. I’m not buying that she deletes all her texts but saves all her Twitters, but whatever. It is what it is. I can’t do anything to stop strangers from coming after me and my family. The only thing I can do is protect my family the best I can. And if that means getting up and walking away, taking the blame, or apologizing, then I’ll do it.

      My amazing hairdressers did want me to point out that I’ve never had my hair done by Penny or at her salon. Melissa knows that too, I have no idea why she screamed that. She likes the drama. I went with Kim D. to have my makeup done at Penny’s place last season, but that was it. I love the people who do my hair — thank you Edyta and thank you David at Hair by David in Kearney, NJ. He’s the official hair stylist for Youthful 8 Milania Hair Care and he carries it in his salon of course! And when I do it myself, the Youthful 8 Milania Collection helps keep my locks looking luscious! (End hair commercial here.)

      It was great to have everyone at my shore house. I loved seeing the kids together especially. It kind of felt like old times hanging out with Caroline and Jacqueline again. We’ve all been through a lot these last five years. Our friendships have had ups and downs just like everyone else’s. Hopefully things will stay looking up!

      Joe did a great job rebuilding our shore house. I especially love the back deck since that’s where we do all of our entertaining. And yes, we grill every day! Did you see the new bottle for Fabellini? Do you like it?

      The Watch What Happens Live interview with Andy was intense. I think he was very respectful and did a great job. Hopefully we answered enough questions, but it is aggravating to not be able to speak freely about everything. When this is all over, we will! As Joe said, we pleaded not guilty for a reason. Thank you all so much for your support and for withholding judgment until the trial is over.

      I’m not in denial about it, I know it’s serious and terrible, and I wouldn’t wish this situation on anyone. If you’ve ever been in any kind of legal situation, even a divorce, you know it can suck your soul dry faster than almost anything else. It’s not a pretty process. But I choose to stay positive. I really believe that being positive and being happy is a choice. It would be easy to stay in bed and cry all day. It’s hard to keep moving forward, keep working, and keep your head up, but that’s what strong women do. Especially being a mom, I can’t fall apart. I have four little girls looking at me to see how to handle bad times. I want to set a good example for them because life involves bad times. You have to know how to cope and not to crumble. And I trust in God. I trust that no matter what, we’ll be OK. Worrying isn’t going to do one thing to help us.

      Thankfully, I have a wonderful support system including my amazing husband, my wonderful parents, and all my other family and friends. And all of YOU! You all lift me up, keep my laughing, and help me keep putting one foot in front of the other. I wish I could give you all a big hug. Thank you so much!

      Tanti Baci,
      Teresa xx

      • October 1, 2013 at 10:13 AM

        When I post the castmemebers’ blogs I usually do not include their advertisements at the bottom of them. This one is at the bottom of Teresa’s:

        “And Tweet me your thoughts on the new Fabellini bottle @Teresa_Giudice. It will be everywhere nationwide at the end of October!”

        THIS would explain why the labels to Fabellini were not shown while filming. Teresa has been in the middle of changing the distributor to a company in Italy and also in the process of changing the label. Any Fabellini used while filming would have the old labeling on it.

        • October 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

          Aha…there you go Jeannie!!! Good catch.

  31. October 1, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    I was not able to watch finale or the WWHL because my cable/internet has been really sketchy so I am sure I will at least be able to watch the finale on rerun or on the internet (we are back up and running!)before this coming week’s first installment of the Reunion. I am so over this show and cannot wait to move on once the Reunion is over!!! Even that will be fake, fake, fake.

    I am really surprised no one has commented on the “Ship My Pants” video – it is hilarious!!!! Thanks for sharing, Fame!!!!

    LADY HEATHER – a big, warm welcome to you and I look forward to your very interesting life stories as well as your opinions/commments on whatever topic being discussed once we all move forward and climb out of the cesspool that is anything connected with RHONJ.

    GESSIE – you know I love you girl! A huge hug to you.

    Everyone else – I am off to run errands and a stop at the beach for some peace, quiet, and contemplation – it is an absolutely gorgeous day here in the Northeast and I plan on taking full advantage of it!!! XO

    • Lady Heather
      October 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM

      Thank you so much jeannie. I look forward to many interesting, intelligent discussions with all of you here at FW.

    • elemcee
      October 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

      Jeannie, say hello to the ocean for me, and tell her I miss her desperately!

      • Jeannie5233
        October 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM

        Beautiful here – I am putting my IPad away now!

    • October 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

      THANK YOU MS.Jeannie for Teresa’s blog.I hope you are having a blest day in all of GOD’S glorious gifts.
      Lady Heather you are precious to the LORD and to us ,we appreciate your story and comments’
      blessings to all

      • Lady Heather
        October 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

        Thank you celi, I now know I made the right call risking to post at this site as you have all been so kind to me regardless of my experiences and posts being somewhat out of the box. Although one poster said I was using my disability as a punchline, which I most certainly did not.

        • October 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM

          who said that about you lady h ? i’ll punch them out,,,hehehe,no I wouldn’t,i;\’m just kidding,but if that hurt your feelings,i’m sorry
          but I will say,{dont know who but several called me out for saying}”im fat ugly,crippled,old n grey” so im not sayin that ANYMORE about myself.

          • October 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM

            Ms. Celi, I love it when you get fiesty!!

          • October 1, 2013 at 8:33 PM

            I am one of several who called you out on that description. I did see pictures of you on Onjo website. You are a beautiful lady, with a heart of gold.

            • October 1, 2013 at 11:57 PM

              I think you did n thank you mamajackie,im not saying that anymore
              got package ready today,look for it
              hugs to all

          • Lady Heather
            October 2, 2013 at 12:46 AM

            I’ve copied out the comment which is on the page with the ‘Caroline Manzo leaves RHONJ…’ article:

            Trent Nobody says:
            October 1, 2013 at 8:01 AM
            If you people buy this garbage you`ve been huffing Milania Hair Care products with an ether type effectiveness. Lady Heather I completely judge you for using disability as a freakin punchline. I`ve commented a few times mostly in response to some of the filth you people pass off as “honest and non judgmental” assessments of this show. Fame. I`m very grateful for this site because it affirmed my reservation that these shows are just poorly acted warts on the medium of television`s chocolate starfish. Back in my day, Buster Keaton`s brand of comedy really turned the industry on it`s ear. I digress. Let`s hope for jail, mob hits, business failures, divorces, poisoned cannoli`s, and more sick children so you can feel better about yourselves. Wretched slugs. Love the site Fame, thank you for your hard work. I wish you and all the commenters a swell day.

        • October 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM

          I too missed where someone called you out on your disability. 😦

          • Lady Heather
            October 2, 2013 at 12:55 AM

            I’ve just posted it above before I read your comment or I would have posted it below your comment. So it’s just above yours now. x x x

            • October 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM

              😦 I didn’t see it as you using your disability but more of giving a bit of background of brought you where you are today.

              • Lady Heather
                October 3, 2013 at 8:07 AM

                Thanks Bree, that was what I intended to do. I just wanted to let people know a little about me and my background so they can understand where I’m coming from and make a more informed choice as to how they want to view my opinions. I think if I had come straight on here just saying “I’m a dominatrix.” without some back story of my life then I might not be taken seriously, but maybe all that’s happened in my life that I’ve shared here seems far fetched or something. I am really not joking about my disabilities and health or any aspect of my life though. I would not joke about anyones disabilities as I know from experience it is not a funny thing. And the very fact that I asked if it was ok to share here considering my past has been somewhat colourful, if I was just joking or making up a story why would I care?

                Anyway all but one person here have been very kind to me as have you Bree and I will end my rant here and take comfort in that fact.

    • October 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

      I want to see the ship my pants video. What is it.

      • October 1, 2013 at 5:15 PM

        Just saw it. Very appropos.

  32. kayswhims
    October 1, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    I think the heart of caroline’s show is going to be about pet rescue. This may attract many people but it will be hard to seperate enjoying the love for animals and the negative family dynamic of the Manzos. I do not think this will rescue Caroline’s image. She is a Virgo and caring for animals is most likely her best feature. When I first started watching RHONJ, I told my daughter, I could see myself spending Christmas at Caroline’s house. Wow. She went from being my favorite housewife to being someone I loath.

    • RahRah
      October 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

      but it is her sister that is into the pet rescuing…she is going capitalize off of her sister’s passion?

      • kayswhims
        October 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

        Yes.

        — Plus, the pilot will include Caroline’s sister, kooky Aunt Fran, who we met earlier this season on “The Real Housewives of New Jersey.” She continues to bring in an assortment of barnyard buddies to the house.

        The show’s logline reads: “It’s one crowded house filled with personality, laughter and ham… in both pig and honey-baked forms.”
        http://www.thewrap.com/bravo-real-housewives-new-jersey-caroline-manzo-spinoff-pilot

        • kayswhims
          October 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

          IF the pilot is ordered to series, Manzo will join the growing group of women who have landed spinoff series – See more at: http://www.carolinemanzo.com/2013/09/the-wrap/#sthash.YgEbts2Z.dpuf

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            October 1, 2013 at 3:32 PM

            Oh God – her neighbors will love that if her house is the focal point for filming. The cul-de-sac she is on is small enough without all the nonsense associated with a heavy production schedule. Most towns around here have pretty restrictive ordinances to prevent ongoing production.

            • kayswhims
              October 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

              Good thing TSIL is living in the neighborhood now. She needs more ways to deal with those pesky emergencies when TB is home. One morning Caroline will have a neighbor knocking on her door. “Your horse pooped in my front lawn last night.” Caroline will say “We don’t have a horse”

              • October 1, 2013 at 8:40 PM

                You gave me a good laugh Kay.

            • October 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM

              Wouldn’t there also be ordinances in place concerning the number of animals and type that are housed in a cul-de-sac in Franklin Lakes? We have them where I live and we are rural.

        • October 1, 2013 at 2:42 PM

          What’s said for me is that I probably would have liked this show if she left and did it in S3. Now — no way as the ugliness of her and her kids has been shown.

          • October 1, 2013 at 2:56 PM

            Same here. Caroline used to seem so sweet. As did Jacqueline. I hate Twitter but I’m actually grateful for it because reading the things they wrote helped cement my disgust.

        • patriciafromco
          October 1, 2013 at 3:33 PM

          animals peeing on the floor inside the house doesn’t interest me no matter how much an animal lover I am.. I have ” family guard dogs” and they don’t live their life in a kennel having someone always yelling at them to shut up.. mine live in the house with me, know the difference of threat no threat .. always bothers me about their GSD’s.. 20 years of GSD’s they are my heart dogs.. Guess being animal friendly is more a selling point for the Manzo, but don’t buy it for a second

          • October 1, 2013 at 3:45 PM

            I would rather watch the paint dry on my house again then see anything from that family,.i think the real reason they are leaving the show is IT WILL COME OUT they all had to do with T and Js indictment charges,u heard it first here,but a lot of us have said it

            • patriciafromco
              October 1, 2013 at 5:16 PM

              I believe you @me celi.. good call.. all evidence has to be forthcoming “right” never been to court so am not sure but that is what I herd about any evidence against a person.. Wonder if they will be called to testify too

          • October 1, 2013 at 8:21 PM

            I forgot the part about them being guard dogs – how weird is that? who in franklin lakes has guard dogs? What are they afraid of? maybe they .. I think the dog thing is just too bizarre…

        • October 1, 2013 at 5:12 PM

          kill me now.

          • October 1, 2013 at 8:41 PM

            LOL, thanks.

    • October 1, 2013 at 5:17 PM

      I couldn’t see myself at Caroline’s house on Christmas day, because i would tackle the bitch and drag her to the shower before I choked on her olive jar sauce. did you see the fish they had on the table one year from the Brownstone? It had three eyes. No, thank you.

  33. Miami53
    October 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    I just watched it….who does it remind you of? LOL!!!

    • Miami53
      October 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

      This was suppose to go under Jeannie’s post about the video “Ship my pants”

    • October 1, 2013 at 10:39 AM

      Exactly!!!! These people obviously have no problem “pooping”!!! LOL!

  34. NCGal
    October 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Those that have twitter accounts, might be a good idea to follow and jump in with a reply

    AndyCohensFanPage ‏@weloveandycohen 28m
    If you could have @Andy’s job for a day, what would you change about @Bravotv?

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:47 PM

      Thanks, but no thanks. I have had a twitter account for over a year. I sent out those automatic tweets, when one votes for a housewife. Never had a problem.

      I finally was able to figure out how to “tweet” several days ago and sent out three tweets, then my account gets hacked. Took me several hours to clear things up. A word to those who want to learn to “tweet”, never get help from a third party website. Thanks Nuca and few others who let me know I had been hacked, I was clueless.

  35. October 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    This is random and Fame please feel free to delete if you need too as I am not sure of the rules. I was just reading another site and the comments and basically I am so sick of the disgusting and uneducated comments. One dum dum said it was Jac’s fault her child had autism due to alcohol. I know I sound like a victim but I am not, but wtf my brother has a form of autism and I dare anyone to say it was because my mother was drinking. Bring it! I put a comment up saying that just because you are T fan does not mean you don’t like others: quite frankly I do like the original cast and Rosie. I do not like how the newbies have caused the dissension amongst the originals. I did not like how everyone flipped on T at producers beck and call. But I like that Carolyn apologized followed by Jac. The others can suck it and their ARMY can too!
    Thank you for allowing me my rant!

    • October 1, 2013 at 3:43 PM

      I really don’t like people commenting on that type of stuff either. Bottom line is he was dx’d with autism by doctors. I don’t like how they are exploiting him on TV, e.g., giving him the BLK on Sunday’s episode was a bit much for me.

      • October 1, 2013 at 10:17 PM

        Exactly. Children on the autism spectrum do NOT do well being surrounded by cameras and lights and other scrutiny. The fact that his parents are allowing their son to be filmed just so they can get sympathy and a storyline is what rubs people the wrong way. I didn’t see the ep on Sunday, but they gave him BLK? Nice. So that’s how they get around making an overt claim that BLK helps alleviate autistic behaviors. Disgrazia.

  36. Kay
    October 1, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    oh my gosh Fame!!!!!! I just watched the video…hahahahahahaha…..i’m cracking up…..oh my I can not quit laughing…..we talking belly laugh!!!!! now everything I say is going to be followed with …………….I just sh** my pants….hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

    • Jack Hole
      October 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM

      All I got was 2 Kmart commercials back to back…hmmmmmm??

      • Jeannie5233
        October 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        JH yes – it is & the first one is how people “shipped” their pants! Fame posted it as a funny dig at TSIL who apparently has difficulty doing so! 😉

        • Jack Hole
          October 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM

          Oh whoa I was way late to the party on this one!! Hahahahaha-thx for the clarity! And I love this commercial- lol 🙂 I was having a Teresa moment!! Hehehe

  37. Kay
    October 1, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    oh wait they really are saying shipped!!!!!! I just can’t…..this is the funniest….I have to thank bravo etc for the last 5 years and last but not least is FAME for the best blog on the internet….who would have thought watching rhonj would finally come to a close for me with ….I JUST SHIPPED MY PANTS………..hahahahaha….

    • October 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

      Kay can you repost the link? Thank you!

      • Jeannie5233
        October 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

        Just click on the video Fame posted at the very beginning of this article. it is hysterical when thinking of TSIL’s dilemma of “pooping” or lack thereof!

        • Kay
          October 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM

          Jeannie yes it is hysterical!!!! Didn’t TSIL say something about going to a store to poop. hahahaha….then Fame posting that review and Kmart hahahahahahaha everyone shipped their pants in kmart hahahahaha….maybe its just me but I find this so over the top funny that I’m still laughing and had my husband rolling with laughter!!!!!

  38. Spaghetti Kitten
    October 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    “Ship My Pants’ IS hilarious and I should apologize to Fame right here and now for thinking that she had started running ads! *red face* (Altho’ I wouldn’t have a prob if this blog did–love it here!) I should have known instantly it was related funny swipe @ Melissa’s book dangit!~

    PS to jennacheryl….I liked Season 1 too and wasn’t necessarily a “Teresa Fan” until all the skewed editing/bullying. I’ve come to like her “style” (lol @ the thought!) basically how she handled the gang up. And although I’ve never liked Jaxie (thought she was two faced to not only Danielle but also to Dina) my eventual support of Teresa has nothing to do with my mixed feelings about Nick’s autism. I’m just not convinced that he has it when I consider how the Laurita’s put off medical treatment for 18 months due to “insurance coverage” and yes, her obvious substance abuse problems tied in with the evidence that they wanted to use BLK as autism treatment (snake oil) as a story line. I think it’s very possible that Nick may have some form of developmental issues that are not related to autism whatsoever and have posted about my 2 now adult neph’s autism/asperger journeys as well. I think it’s possible to question the diagnosis without it being an affront to truly GOOD people like you and your Mom.

    • October 1, 2013 at 3:51 PM

      I did the same thing, I thought good for fame she’s getting some money. But the video is hilarious.

  39. tulip
    October 1, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    I don’t usually believe sources at RadarOnline, but could this be the reason why Jac was fired?

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/10/real-housewives-new-jersey-dina-manzo-ultimatum-fire-jacqueline-laurita-or-im-not-coming-back/

    • patriciafromco
      October 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM

      That would be an interesting have Dina and DS come back on the show. But if Dina is so worried about being exposed about something she would know better not to come back or want to come back.

      • RahRah
        October 1, 2013 at 8:13 PM

        think they want to turn it into classy show?
        yeah they would have to take out the trash!
        i just couldn’t watch the crap anymore and I don’t, all I wanted to see was Teresa building her empire?
        i admire what T has accomplished as a woman & mother and saddened for their legal predicament.
        most of the chicks I know really want a juicy, the babies and to have successful accomplishments like T.
        she won me over when she started working to change her family’s financial situation.
        and i think real business people know some of the hard the decisions business people have to make.
        you invest in something and it crashes or some bernie madoff makes off with your money or you lose a good job or you have the horrible experience of a catastrophic illness, anything can bring you down at anytime
        thanks for reading!!

  40. Kay
    October 1, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Tom Murro ‏@celebritymagnet 2h
    Care to expand on this? @JacLaurita @dinamanzo @CarolineManzo @daniellestaub @Realitytea @NaughtyNiceRob @Andy http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/10/real-housewives-new-jersey-dina-manzo-ultimatum-fire-jacqueline-laurita-or-im-not-coming-back/

    Dina Manzo ‏@dinamanzo 1h
    @celebritymagnet oh yes, I have the power to fire ANYONE. I’m getting Kris Jenner off Kardashians too! Ur “source” is a little of my friend.

    Dina Manzo ‏@dinamanzo 1h
    @celebritymagnet *off

    Tom Murro ‏@celebritymagnet 58m
    @dinamanzo How ‘off ‘ ? Which part? @Realitytea @CarolineManzo @swimmie2009 @JacLaurita @PageSix @daniellestaub @NBTalent @Bravotv

    • Kay
      October 1, 2013 at 2:50 PM

      Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 40m
      I’d LOVE to know who these “sources” are that seem to think they have the inside scoop on everything. Anything for a story,huh?

      • October 1, 2013 at 2:58 PM

        From everything I’ve read, Jacqueline herself is Radar’s source. Just like Adrienne from RHOBH. So that is amusing. She just keeps throwing rocks and hiding her hand.

        • October 1, 2013 at 3:30 PM

          Yes Jac and Kim G. But quite frankly I do believe Bravo is behind a lot of these stories to generate buzz.

          • Grand-Beth
            October 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM

            ITA

        • patriciafromco
          October 1, 2013 at 5:02 PM

          @agirl614 “thanks” smile.. just love this ” She just keeps throwing rocks and hiding her hands” that is so on spot for Wacko … good share…

        • October 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

          She keeps throwing rocks and hits herself in the head every third throw.

          • October 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

            Hahahahahaha. Oh dear. God forgive me. I just burst out laughing.

      • October 1, 2013 at 3:54 PM

        jacwac we don’t have to know the inside scoop we aren’t idiots ,read this blog.we are smarter than you think to figure things out.
        .

  41. Kay
    October 1, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    The Naughty Mommy ‏@linzlehigh 1h
    The @melissagorga Experiment is going well. Today’s challenge is be nice to my hubby and shave my legs. #LoveItalianStyle #hatersgonnahate

    Melissa Gorga ‏@melissagorga 33m
    @linzlehigh I love this;-) xo

    The Naughty Mommy ‏@linzlehigh 26m
    @melissagorga Lol thanks! Blogging about my experiment all month. http://tinyurl.com/olvmdoh It’s Day 1 and already so many haters!

    ok so I click on the link….and the naughty mommy says “Now, obviously I think that some of these pieces of advice are silly or downright stupid (i.e. the last one). But I’m still going to try it and go as all-in as I can, for the purpose of the experiment.” apparently melissa didn’t read it….even though she says she loves it…..why do I torture myself with her stupidness.

    • October 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

      What a joke. haha! The Naughty Mom is better getting advice from a prostitute than Melissa but… than again… LOL!!!

    • RahRah
      October 1, 2013 at 8:03 PM

      I shave my legs everyday.

  42. Kay
    October 1, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-5/videos/has-albert-cheated-on-caroline

    Caroline says “for me to believe that he has been completely faithful for 32 years I think is a foolish way to think”

    I don’t even have the words to comment on that…..I continue to torture myself…..maybe she shipped her pants.

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:09 PM

      How sad for Caroline to feel that way. I KNOW my husband has been faithful – never has been and never will be a matter to question or think about. For all of her bravado, there is a sad woman inside. She made a decision – a choice – just like with everything life hands us – and she now has to live with it.

      Talk about seeing no light in one’s eyes? Caroline Manzo has absolutely none shining from hers. In fact, her eyes look sad, even when she is laughing.

      • October 1, 2013 at 9:03 PM

        Hi Jeannie, your right. How sad for Caroline, I for one would bet my life that my hubby has been loyal to me. I’m sure a lot of people are laughing ay me for that comment.

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM

      I want to ship my pants every time I think about the Manzo garbage 🙂

  43. October 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Real Housewives of New Jersey star Kathy Wakile stopped by Bethenny Frankel’s talk show and talked all things Real Housewives. It all started when Teresa was filming her interview and on The Real Housewives on a past episode and the producers asked if Kathy Wakile’s Cannoli’s are edible. Teresa then parroted the producers leading question and responded that they are edible and saying she is impressed.

    Bethenny asked Kathy about the incident and Kathy slammed Teresa for her response telling Bethenny, “She was asked about my Cannolis and said, ‘Oh, I guess they are edible.’ Well she knows damn well they are edible. I just think sour grapes. Women are supposed to support each other not bring each other down.”

    That’s not all. Kathy revealed to Bethenny that she never had tension with her before she got on the show like she does.

    Bethenny: How are you finding a balance with the fact that your entire family is on television and it turned out so differently. You probably thought it was a fun thing when you started and now you are in this web.
    Kathy: Well that’s what is hard because you don’t know what’s going to come up and you don’t know what everybody else is thinking but at the end of the day my husband and I decided that we are going to do this. Our foundation has always been solid and what happens in our home and behind our doors when we close the door that is going to remain solid. Everything else, is secondary.
    Bethenny: Did you have this kind of tension privately with your cousin Teresa before the show?
    Kathy: No.
    Bethenny: The show really instigated? Do you think it’s the fame that does that? Competition?
    Kathy: I think what happened was she misunderstood my reasoning for joining the show. I thought it was going to be a fun adventure. I got a point in my life where my children were grown, it was getting to be the empty nester type of thing, they didn’t need me as much so what am I doing? Then this opportunity came to me, what am I going to say no I am not going to do it because I might ruffle some feathers?
    Bethenny: What do you think it was construed you were doing?
    Kathy: That I was coming on there to attack her or to bring her down and that is just totally far from the truth. I tried to be her friend, be the cousin that I always was but that changed things. She thought I was coming on to hurt her.

    Melissa has reported several times that she and Kathy have had tons of tension with Teresa before the show began so it’s nice to hear Kathy put the rumors to rest and not go along with Melissa. Thoughts on what Kathy had to say?

    Credit to Allabouttrh.com

    • elle
      October 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM

      I think the main reason Kathy was signed for the show was to drive the drama in the direction production wants it to go. From the very beginning I noticed how awkward and unreal the scenes of her and Rich were. It seemed pretty obvious to me that they were told exactly what they had to discuss and they carried out their orders like cooperative little soldiers. They just lack the coyness and finesse that some of the others have when carrying out instructions. Then it appears when they saw that Teresa was to be the show’s whipping post, they jumped right on it in order to protect their jobs and the perks that come along with it. Production probably got stuck signing them as featured characters instead of putting them in the category of others like Kim D. or Jan. I think if it were not for Rosie they would have been dumped last year and if there is another season and they stay on it will be only because of Rosie. It seems they think being all Yes,Sir! How high, Sir? in sticking with the storyline will keep them on in an official capacity. That’s why she comes off the way she does in interviews. She hasn’t mastered the art of suggesting an answer without actually giving one the way Caroline and TSIL do by giving a vague answer with facial expressions.

      The main issue with Cathy is that she is just average. She’s a wife and mother who likes to bake. She has a goofy husband and has raised a couple of kids. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I know dozens of people like her…the problem is that while I like them and appreciate what they do, I certainly would not be interested in watching a television program about them.

      • Luvfamewhorgas
        October 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

        true

    • October 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM

      Kathy who? 🙂 She’s continuing on her quest to take Tre down (now of all time … puhleeze) by stating I don’t know why she had an issue coming on the show, we didn’t have any issues before the show.

      • October 1, 2013 at 8:14 PM

        ITA – Those pictures that we have all seen of her and Melissa sitting together, at one of Teresa’s parties before they got on the show looking very irritated speak volumes of what Kathy’s reasons were to get on the show.

        She and that creep husband of hers are just a waste of airtime. And their kids are not much better – the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    • October 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM

      is it just me or does kathy say y’know waaay too much! Someone needs a public speaking class PRONTO!

    • Danadoll007
      October 2, 2013 at 11:54 AM

      Is the only way to post a comment to “Reply” to someone’s comment?? It’s the only way I can. Just wondered how I would add a comment without replying to someone??

      • October 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM

        Scroll all the way to the bottom of all of the comments. There you will find the “Leave a Reply” box.

  44. NCGal
    October 1, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Good reading. Huff Post writer

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-sosa/joe-gorga-suggests-raping_b_4014031.html

    “St. Martin’s Press should pull the book and donate any existing profit to a rape awareness organization, while Bravo needs to hold these people accountable or get them off the air. Preferably both.”

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM

      Thank you NCGal, it was a very good read

  45. October 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Okay so….
    Why is Lil’ Joey’s last name Marco and not Gorga? I’m I the only person that caught that? Now I see why Kathy Lee Gifford questioned Melissa on the paternity of her kids.

    • October 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

      Nvm. I really need to start reading what Fame says first before glancing at the photos. Something’s not right about Melissa when it comes to Lil Joey. I know it’s a “touchy subject” but I’m sure Melissa is going to say that her father in laws name is a typo along with Joey’s middle name. Doesn’t make sense that Lil’ Joey’s middle name is Marco when that’s her maiden name. Did anyone notice earlier in the show when Melissa was telling her mom, sister Kim (I believe) and her aunt that she was going to make a book talking about her father and did anyone noticed when her sister rolled her eyes? She seemed bothered by Melissa talking about their father in her book. I’m not sure if the book talks about Melissa’s father but if so I wonder if half the things she said about him is a lie and how her sisters feel about it.

      • October 1, 2013 at 7:23 PM

        I know a lot of people who use their last names as middle names for one of their kids. My son’s middle name is a last name — LOL, not my maiden name or anyone I even know, just liked the name (McCabe).

      • October 1, 2013 at 8:36 PM

        all my children (as well as myself) have maiden names or grandmothers’ maiden names for middle names…. sorry!

        • Anonymous
          October 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM

          I understand that I know many people that do that as well. So why didn’t she name her 2 older children Marco as well? Knowing that’s her maiden name it’s kind if odd that she named him after his father but has Marco is his middle name. Seems a bit off….”sorry!”.

      • October 1, 2013 at 9:36 PM

        In some families, like mine, it’s a tradition to use the mom’s maiden name as a middle name, to keep the mother’s maiden name alive, I guess. I know quite a few people, from different cultures, whose middle names are based on that. My mother’s family also liked to reuse middle names. I’m one of the lucky few to escape having the most common two for the girls. God bless my parents for being original thinkers. On my dad’s side, we just found out that my cousin’s middle name was our great-grandmother’s middle name. People are weird. 🙂

    • elle
      October 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

      I think Marco is his middle name.

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM

      The name “Marco” is not just used as a surname. It can also be used as a first name. My daughter went to school with a boy named Marco. TSIL and TB used it for Joey’s middle name.

      MARCO
      Italian Meaning:
      The name Marco is an Italian baby name. In Italian the meaning of the name Marco is: Mars (Roman god of war), warring. Famous Bearer: Marco Polo (1254-1324), explorer from Venice.

      http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/marco

      • October 1, 2013 at 8:17 PM

        🙂 Marco-Polo!! Ha

  46. really_bravo
  47. Miami53
    October 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    OT- Sorry if this was already posted.
    This was this person’s reply about the fiasco for Season 5 final. Someone was at there and describe on her blog what was going on.

    DonnaLee
    October 1, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Yes it is so sickening at what Bravo will do to create drama! Glad to know that you did not get hurt. I wonder if anyone did besides JTG. You talk about glass breaking and such. YIKES! Season 6 was a total disappointment on many levels. The only time I can actually say we enjoyed watching was anything with Milania and Juicy and Rosie.

    While Caroline seemed to lose the hatred to save face, because of the hatred she and her kids spewed, I personally would not watch anything they put on TV now. If they had all gone to Teresa and apologized because the world knows that Teresa never did a thing to that family.

    Jacqueline came across also as a nicer person who wanted to be friends with Teresa again, but sorry, she yelled out that crap about Juicy cheating with someone at his work. If that’s a disgusting lie she is a POS and if Tre did tell her that it was in confidence, and I personally would not speak to someone like that ever again.

    Kathie is way to passive aggressive and that makes her look phony plus her husband needs some lessons in manners. So sucks too, because I will miss Rosie.

    Sorry to say, but Melissa cannot sing and needs to work with a voice coach for a couple of years. I think it is sad that people encourage her and are not honest. I have been saying for two years, I have a niece who can sing and has been trained. You can google her, Lauren Cupples and I have a cousin who can sing and has not been trained at all, he can be googled also, Davide Durrell. So I know what I am talking about. When the voice coach was having her do the scales, my 6 year old granddaughter and I could do it better. If that is her dream, then do it right for herself not for Bravo. I have not bought her book and would not do so since I have been married for over 22 years, however, the reviews are not good.

    I feel that Teresa has way too many legal issues to deal with at this time and most likely should pull away from this show for now. I also feel that she has too much class for the show and would be better off on her own.

    LOL so yeh, I think they should just be done with RHONJ because no matter what people will always see it as some fake show where stupid producers try to ruin people’s lives. Dina was smart to leave.

  48. October 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Ever since I was younger I always loved trying to imitate different people, and I can do the kim g “How are you?” or “Callllm Dowwwwwwwn”(from season 2 PFS) and the danielle staub “Woooooow.”(after the table flip) perfectly. hahah my mom gets such a kick out of it. I’ll say “Don’t Call Me Honey!” and she’ll reply every time with “Is Bitch Better?!”

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:14 PM

      Loved the calm down from Kim G(she said it about 20 times)-she knew they were going to go after Danielle….for sure.

      • October 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM

        I loved the fact that she was hysterically saying “calm downnnnn”. Telling somebody to calm down while she wasn’t calm at all. lol

  49. Miami53
    October 1, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Penelope Pitstop has a new blog

    • October 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

      Where can I find Penelopes blog??

      • Miami53
        October 1, 2013 at 10:12 PM

        Fame, am I allow to mention where Penelope Pitstop is?

        • October 2, 2013 at 12:16 AM

          Someone else posted penelopes site, but thanks Miami for asking if you are allowed.

  50. October 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Remember the old Wetpaint blog about Albie also being in the fight? So this is also why Caro was flipping out!
    http://www.wetpaint.com/real-housewives-of-new-jersey/articles/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-cast-involved-in-massive-brawl-at-kim-ds-boutique-posche-2-exclusive

  51. October 1, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    New blog is up:

    Kim D Confirms Al Manzo’s Affair with Jill; Caroline Manzo Says It’s Foolish for Her to Think Al’s Been Faithful for 32 Years

    https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/kim-d-confirms-al-manzos-affair-with-jill-and-caroline-manzo-says-its-foolish-for-her-to-think-als-been-faithful-for-32-years/

    • October 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

      You’re just the best!

      • Happy Holly Daze
        October 2, 2013 at 9:40 AM

        I second that agirl

  52. eclip9t8
    October 3, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    wish me luck peeps, I’ve just got a copy of “love Italian style” and I intend to read it from start to finish. im up for the challenge and I need a laugh. I wasn’t stupid enough to waste my money on it though, lol

  53. Sharon
    October 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    See novelrank.com. As of today the hardback version of Love Italian Style is ranked number 4,783. In September 127 copies were sold and 27 in October.
    What happened to all MeHo’s fans who said they bought it?

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