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John Karagiorgis, Joe Gorga and the Lauritas Drop All Charges in Exchange for Waiver of Contract Terms to Allow Filing of Civil Suit

September 26, 2013

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“Over the last week, a deal was brokered between lawyers for Jacqueline Laurita, her husband Christopher, and Joe Gorga — all of Franklin Lakes — and the attorney representing John Karagiorgis to have the charges dismissed.” – NorthJersey.com

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk
@PDKhair Going through texts & I forgot how pretty they were On air: Tweet Text: email & face2face #WhichIsIt
6:05 PM – 26 Sep 13

OldNJGirl ‏@OldNJlady
@JohnnyTheGrk she (jaclaurita) is too stupid to realize that her blog and her tweets are just going to hurt her more.
5:40 PM – 26 Sep 13

At a court hearing in Ridgewood, NJ on September 26, 2013, John Karagiorgis, Joe Gorga, Chris Laurita and Jacqueline Laurita agreed to drop all charges stemming from a bloody brawl on March 30, 2013 at a Ridgewood boutique (the event being featured in the season 5 finale of RHONJ).

Joe Gorga, Jacqueline Laurita and Christopher Laurita each faced felony assault charges against John Karagiorgis. Christopher Laurita and Joe Gorga faced one count each of making terroristic threats against John Karagiorgis. Karagiorgis faced three counts of harassment and three counts of felony assault. However, in August, the assault charges were downgraded from felonies to simple assault.

According to @FauxRealityE, who has been blogging on behalf of Penny Drossos-Karagiorgis, John’s wife, “criminal charges against all cast members were dropped in exchange for waiver of contract terms to allow filing of civil suit.”

“If Bravo wants to get out of this, they could give the Greeks a million dollars and say, ‘We will give Penny a spot as a housewife.’ That would put a stop to the lawsuit on Bravo and Sirens Media (B/S). But for the rest, B/S will let it go and allow it to continue because that could be the story for Penny and her husband for next season. And all of them won’t be able to talk about Bravo or the cameras. So next season, it will be about them and the fight.” – Buck Henry, September 26, 2013 at 11:48 pm, Faux

“That’s all nonsense, IMO. The criminal charges had already been reduced to misdemeanors. No way the Lauritas would agree to be sued civally to make lousy misdemeanor charges go away. Not to mention Johnny had the same charges pending against him. What happened to those? My guess is the ‘deal’ was both sides agreed to drop their charges. And for a civil suit he’d have to show damages, no? Nobody got hurt and this is all done. Over.” – kit9, September 27, 2013 at 3:21 pm, LynnFam

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Saddle_River_NJ submitted on 2013/09/26 at 8:43 PM:

The Greeks have a history with Missy. They are well aware of her background. Seasons 1-3 appear to have less ludicrous editing done. A lot of problems arose when they were filming season 4 as 3 was being broadcast. Penny probably was shocked when The Infectious Author got a place on the show and wanted a piece of it. She very well might have signed one of those contracts with sweet promises of air time. All of a sudden Slutella is playing the innocent victim and the Witch Sisters start trashing people like Bulldog, who knows the Greeks. Bravo/Sirens was probably getting everyone and their brother to sign one of those contracts *as insurance*. Get anyone and everyone with the ability to publicly expose the show as a fraud locked down. Production is now free to do what ever they damned please without recourse. Now production ratchets up the lies and deception and no one can stop them. Of course, B/S never realized that Janax is a complete loon, that the Whore of Gorgalon is as gross as she is, and that the Wakiles and Manzos are dishwater dull. Anyway – back to the Greeks. I think they came on early with better intentions but got lost in the insanity that the show had devolved to. FWIW – the Greeks actually have a very decent reputation around here and are pretty different from the characters you see on tv.

Saddle_River_NJ submitted on 2013/09/26 at 8:17 PM:

If in fact the Greeks have gotten a waiver of contract terms, that *might* mean that Bravo may actually not renew the franchise. If John and Penny were actually able to file suit, that would open up Sirens to a very messy and public accounting. And they (Greeks) could follow it up the corporate ladder. Remember Penny saying her phone was worth gold? If she saved voice mails and texts from Sirens production, that would be damning. The charges against the 3 Little Pigs were serious as individuals. But if the Greeks have saved text/voice between themselves, cast members and production, that can blow the whole franchise open if they are able to make it public. Princess Cohen would never want his image tarnished – nor would his superiors want to deal with it. Simplest solution in a scenario where the Greeks contract has been voided is to not renew the series.

John Karagiorgis didn’t come to the event “dressed to fight,” as Jacqueline testified under oath in April 2013. However, Joe Gorga did. At the event on March 30, 2013, Joe wore all black and a stocking cap (like he wore when he came to fight Angelo and Kim D at the PFS in the season 4 finale) – he wore the the stocking cap so that it wouldn’t easily slip off (he wore a white shirt and baseball cap when Juicy Joe kicked his ass in Lake George, and when his cap fell off, his black spray-on hair got all over everyone.).

On September 23, 2013, Jacqueline went on Twitter to insult the viewers by calling them “delusional haters.” And then the next day she tweeted the “tweeple,” telling them they were “the best” for showing her “love and support”:

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Jacqueline also tweeted that “because it’s not in the footage,” she never hit John on the head with her shoe (she must be forgetting the fact that even if Bravo deleted or edited out the footage, there are witnesses, plus she might want to look up the word “perjury”).

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The following are more of Jacqueline’s tweets and the report of the court hearing from NorthJersey.com.

Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 4h
I don’t know any man that would lie about a woman hitting him with a shoe! #neverhappened
3:17 PM – 26 Sep 13

Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 2m
People emailed me about Johnny’s tweets, I looked at his timeline & saw them. People I know collected them. He deletes! He lies! NO shoe attack!
7:25 PM – 26 Sep 13

Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 30m
Enjoyed a nice Greek meal tonight at Varkas in Ramsey. LOVE that place! XO!
Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 28m

Case was dismissed 4a reason! Disgusting that He lied about me hitting him w/a shoe! It never happened!I didnt do that! Raw footage proves that!
6:59 PM – 26 Sep 13

UnCond♥&Accept(Tony) ‏@Ucla444 25m
@JacLaurita Dear (((#LadyJ))) sounds like, you could use some #Understanding around how #Frustrating this is, & how much you Value #Honesty?

Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 4h
#honesty #integrity

Michael ‏@Mike0243 1h
@JacLaurita @Realitytea If it never happened, why did you come to an agreement instead of going forward with your lawsuit against him?
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis
3:21 PM – 26 Sep 13

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 1h
Don’t feel punked. Just know, NOW it begins!!!

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 1h
#Honesty #Integrity *achem #BullshitArtists NOW IT BEGINS !!!

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 1h
What a F$&KING #Liar

chickadeeeee ‏@chickencounter 14m
@JohnnyTheGrk She forgot one. #Perjury
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis
5:02 PM – 26 Sep 13

Ghost Rider Radio™ ‏@GhostRiderRadio 39m
IF and that’s a big IF the alleged tweets magically appear and they don’t match your archives, they’ll be FALSIFYING EVIDENCE @JohnnyTheGrk
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 38m
If it #NeverHappened then why do the texts state different … No worries, they’ll be shown in the next venue.

Ghost Rider Radio™ ‏@GhostRiderRadio 41m
Albout the alleged tweets they claim you did. Without screen shot PROOF they’re wasting everyone’s time with FALSE ALLEGATIONS @JohnnyTheGrk
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

Ghost Rider Radio™ ‏@GhostRiderRadio 46m
A word of advice my friend. Watch the subtweets because your main haters will assume its for them. Just looking out for you @JohnnyTheGrk
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 54m
So many gifts in the last 24 hours … Thank You!!! Go ahead, pop another pill & have another drink.

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 1h
#Honesty #Integrity *achem #BullshitArtists NOW IT BEGINS !!!
3:42 PM – 26 Sep 13

ebony nichole ‏@ebonynichole 25 Sep
@JohnnyTheGrk I appreciate your heart so much, but a lie is slander & slander is a lie. Your name needs to be cleared publicly & legally!
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 25 Sep
RT “@Anon_Mafioso: Yes.You can see all past tweets going here: http://tweettunnel.com/reverse2.php?textfield=%40JohnnyTheGrk&go=Go&sn=&pn=1 …” $500 reward for any negative tweet about SickChild

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 25 Sep
Couldn’t have asked for a better gift!!! Someone please tell her there’s something called an #Archive #Bullshit

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk 25 Sep
I literally cried my eyes out LMFAO? 😂WTF did I ever tweet these people? NEVER! Delusional! Talk about reaching for a Storyline & Sympathy

Ridgewood charges dropped against ‘Real Housewives’ cast members
September 26, 2013

Assault and terroristic threat charges against three of the stars of Bravo’s “Real Housewives of New Jersey” were dropped Thursday by a municipal judge.

Over the last week, a deal was brokered between lawyers for “Housewives” star Jacqueline Laurita, her husband Christopher, and Joe Gorga — all of Franklin Lakes — and the attorney representing John Karagiorgis to have the charges dismissed.

Judge David T. Pfund approved the deal Thursday afternoon, settling the matter once and for all.

The charges of assault and making terroristic threats stem from a bloody fracas at the grand opening of a hair salon in Ridgewood in late March.

Karagiorgis, wearing a grey shirt with black dress pants, appeared in the courtroom first with his wife, Penny, who was wearing a blue top with black tights and black boots.

Minutes later, the Lauritas and Gorga arrived for court, finding seats on the opposite side of the room.

“This is going to be interesting,” Karagiorgis whispered to his wife before the proceeding began.

Jacqueline Laurita came to court dressed in a long, shoulder-less green and black shirt with black tights and black stiletto heels. Laurita played with her hair nervously as her husband, Chris, donning a blue dress coat, jeans, and a blue and white dress shirt, patted her on the knee reassuringly.

Gorga walked in wearing his signature cap, a short-sleeved black shirt with dark jeans. He removed his hat when Pfund entered the court.

After reading some instructions for the packed court house, including people awaiting the disposition of traffic tickets, Pfund called all four defendants’ names.

One by one, each defendant expressed to the judge that they wanted to have all of the charges dropped. “Yes,” each of them said when asked.

Flanked by a throng of media cameras, the cast mates exited the courtroom without speaking to reporters. Lawyers for the three stars did not comment.

Karagiorgis, an employee at Clifton’s Rutt’s Hut, previously had claimed he was ambushed March 30 by Laurita, her husband, and Gorga at the Ridgewood event. His attorney, Nicholas Sekas, declined later to comment about Thursday’s case, but said that a civil lawsuit was planned.

The Bravo cameras were absent for Thursday’s proceedings.

Karagiorgis alleged the show’s security restrained him during the attack, from which he claims he sustained a broken nose, bruises, lumps and head trauma. Karagiorgis’ complaint further claims Jacqueline smacked him in the head with a stiletto heel, and that her husband threatened his life.

In April, Jacqueline Laurita testified that Karagiorgis was “asked not to attend” the March 30 event, “but showed up anyway with a bodyguard,” who she said appeared to be armed.

Karagiorgis’ wife owns a North Arlington hair salon, La Chateau Allure Salon, and she has made past appearances on the program.

Laurita further testified Karagiorgis “came dressed in clothes like he was ready for a fight.”

Moments before the altercation, Laurita said she was part of a “tsunami of people” packed into the boutique for the grand opening. That’s when she claims Karagiorgis “lunged towards me, and I heard him yelling, ‘I’ll [expletive] kill you.’”

Later in her testimony, Laurita claimed that after he was removed from the event, Karagiorgis returned, “looking for more.”

“He went right at me, and had this look on his face that was dazed and crazed,” Laurita alleged, adding she believes Karagiorgis was intent on harming her.

Laurita testified Karagiorgis, using Twitter, harassed her and other members of the “Real Housewives of New Jersey” cast, posting malicious and derogatory comments about her, her husband, and the couple’s autistic son.

Chris Laurita and Gorga, also testified in April, both claiming that Karagiorgis had lunged at them and threatened their lives. They told Pfund they were forced to defend themselves and their wives during the fracas, and both claim Karagiorgis had been using Twitter to harass and slander them.

“He’s obsessed with us, and he’s stalked us for years,” Gorga said. “I get phone calls at night. It’s to the point where my wife has gotten depressed over it. This guy needs to be prosecuted. This is cyber bullying.”

The fight scene will air on television Sunday night, bringing a dramatic close to the show’s fifth season. Also Thursday, US Weekly magazine reported that “Housewives” star Caroline Manzo, who is Chris Laurita’s sister, and one of the original cast members, will not return for season six [because her family is getting a spinoff].

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  1. nsr1076
    September 26, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    It doesn’t matter who returns for next season I’m out…

    • September 26, 2013 at 11:41 PM

      I’m with you, nsr!

      • September 27, 2013 at 12:32 AM

        Me too!

        • jennacheryl
          September 27, 2013 at 10:57 AM

          me 3

          • I live in the neighborhood
            September 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM

            me 4

            • NCGal
              September 27, 2013 at 4:58 PM

              I stopped watching halfway through this season.

              A week ago, I would have considered watching next season if rumors are true about Wakiles, Manzos and Lauritas. But, after GorgaGate, there is no way I could stand to see either one of them on my tv screen.

            • September 28, 2013 at 5:14 PM

              Me 5

    • Dasher
      September 27, 2013 at 9:33 AM

      I’m outs too…..unless……Dina and Danielle come back 🙂

      • kayswhims
        September 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM

        If Dina comes back and the show goes back the way it use to be, it just might work.

        • patriciafromco
          September 27, 2013 at 1:06 PM

          saw that Dina was set to start another reality show posted back in Feb of this year ?

          • kayswhims
            September 27, 2013 at 3:09 PM

            Yes. That is a docu series with Al Roker Entertainment. She is still working on HGTV’s Dina’s Party. In August, she filmed her first scenes as a member of the cast of NYC Brand Production’s first, scripted dramedy, “Tainted Dreams”

            • Laram
              September 27, 2013 at 10:41 PM

              *NJ, dang phone put in NYC, but another one won’t be watching! Espescially a Kennedy/Radziwell stoop low to be in!

          • September 27, 2013 at 6:39 PM

            I saw that too. Not sure what it is about, but I will give it a try. Love Dina

    • Julie
      September 27, 2013 at 10:05 AM

      I’m out too!

    • September 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM

      I can feel the door hitting me on the ass as we speak.

    • Laram
      September 27, 2013 at 10:39 PM

      Again, as I’ve posted. This show is per factory at best. Never to get the time back, but still comment on injustice with Bravo and HE’s. I’m just glad I haven’t watched 2 of 3 past housewives of NJ, one I did on TiVo. Will watch reunion but after 3 seasons it’s blah, blah, Charlie Brown’s teacher voice!

      • Laram
        September 27, 2013 at 10:42 PM

        My corrections are up^^^ there! Lol.

    • vallygirl
      September 29, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      At this point I’m done with Jersey housewives too. I’m so sick of the Gorgas that it’s gotten to a point for me that I can’t even stomach both Messy and that pathetic migdet Joe.

      My favorite seasons were 1&2 when this show was what it was suppose to be about women who had fun shopping, women that had close friendships well except for Danielle they really never welcomed her. But, it was a show about real housewives.
      Then the dark season started when Messy and SloJoe were brought in along with the most irrelevant woman in housewives
      history Kathy along with that disgusting pervert Chicklet teeth Richie. Jersey housewives went downhill from from season 3 to now. All of the sudden men are giving their “talking heads” with this attitude that we have to like what they have to say because that’s how stuck on themselves Joe Gorga and Richie whatever his name is are.
      Seriously Andy Cohen, this show was supposed to be about women and these two fame thirsty men Joe and Richie sit in a chair to give the viewer their very own confessional to reveal their own ignorance because let’s face it Joe Gorga is right up there with Forrest Gump and Richie trailing right behind him.

      Let’s face it Andy ruined this show when he brought Melissa and Kathy on. And, for what so they could spend three seasons bashing their own sister in law and cousin!

      Melissa especially is so thirsty to be famous that she’s parched, she spent 3 seasons trying to copy Tersesa not to mention tried to out do Tersesa but it didn’t work. The more Melissa trashed Tersesa the more Melissa was hated and Tersesa’s fan base grew even bigger.
      As far Kathy well I got nothing. Except that she can make cannolis, which that doesn’t take a rocket scientist to do, I learned to make cannolis in grade school and I’m not even Italian. It’s just something my aunt and grandmother would do on weekends and they taught me. It’s the most simplest pastry to make. Kathy just wants viewers to think it’s a hard task so people buy them from her.

      I’m just venting you all because I’m so sick of this show and what these two housewives and let’s call them what they are househusbands Joe and Richie.

      It’s a shame this show was brought way down into the gutter because it was fun to watch seasons 1&2.
      I’m glad Jacko isn’t returning next season maybe she can work on her mental state withthe time off. Girlfriend should take a break from that twitter her rants just make her sound crazier.
      Another piece of good no more of Caroline’s advice if it’s really true that she’s not returning.
      Gosh I feel so duped because I wasted time I can never get back watching season 5 .
      Especially since according to sources it’s all fabricated storylines.

  2. Kay
    September 26, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    I have not watched the last 6 episodes…..so I have a head start….i’m over it and out!

  3. OldNJLady
    September 27, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    I haven’t watched since halfway thru season 3 because I could not stand the fake Lookers, Joey and Kat. I have followed all the blogs until this season. This year I only read them when there is nothing else to do. Lately I have been stuck at home so I am a little more active on the blogs.

    I just have to comment that the picture of Joey with what I assume is his attorney is one of the funniest things I have seen in several days.

    • September 27, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      I agree ONJL!, it’s hilarious!

      • September 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

        He looks like a paper boy from the fifties. Who dresses like that?

        • vallygirl
          September 29, 2013 at 2:54 AM

          Hi Gessiewtf,
          Joey does look like the paper boy in general lol.
          But oh my did you all notice this idiot standing on a stool in this last episode when Messy was singing well screeching like a cat more like it ( I got a chance to seethe orioriginal video without autotune before it was taken down). lol she really can’t sing!!!!!
          Anyways if you go back and see the epi. you’ll see Joey standing on a stool dancing like an idiot on top of the stool. I guess that was the only way he could watch Messy try to sing lol! At one point a little later you’ll see him literally hanging on Johnny’s shoulder and the funny thing is he’s a little almost eye level to Johnny then the camera pans out and shows this dummy standing on what looks like a set of bleachers. So, that’s how Joey manages to be almost be as tall as Johnny. It’s the funniest thing in the world! Joey can’t get upset at my lol at him because he put himself on that stool dancing like a two yr old. It was too funny!

    • mzjulesaz
      September 27, 2013 at 12:48 AM

      I thought his atty might by Tiny’s brother

    • Sackem
      September 27, 2013 at 3:08 AM


    • tulip
      September 27, 2013 at 6:47 AM

      They remind me of Danny DiVito and Arnold Schwartzeneger in the movie “Twins”. 🙂

      • September 27, 2013 at 8:33 AM

        That’s too funny, yulip. But I’m serious when I say Joey is a half of a inch away from being a little person. I’m NOT making fun of little people, would never do that

  4. September 27, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    piperbeau from Jac’s Bravo blog:

    Jacqueline I’m really trying to like you!! But everything you say Johnny the Greek did to you, you did to Teresa which was ten times worse because she was your friend! Its funny you mention aggressive mental disorder?! I was wondering the same about you? I don’t even follow you on twitter and I know you have bashed Teresa time and time again… You tried to destroy Danielle and you tried to destroy Teresa!! So pathetic! What sane person tweets horrible things about a person they were friends with?! Give us a break Jacqueline!! And by the way we (viewers) still want to know your reasoning for saying all the horrible ugly things you said about Teresa?! On WWHL a caller asked you if you forgave Teresa?! LMAO! For what?! The burning question?! that has still never been answered! So its funny to me that you wanted answers from Johnny and Penny! Hypocrite much?!

    southern_goddess from Jac’s Bravo blog:

    Jac, you said people who talks trash and hide behind their computers are cowards and haters? Well, wouldn’t YOU fall into that category as well? I think you may be the worst coward and hater I’ve ever seen! You cannot deny all of the hate and venom you’ve spewed on twitter and your computer. Just be honest! Also, you and you’re friends are too old for the ‘he say, she say” drama and nasty public confrontations. The behavior is very teen-like. I can’t even recall myself behaving that way as a teen! If I confronted all of the people who talked about me behind my back, I would lose my mind! It’s not even worth it! It also wouldn’t be a good look for my children to watch me behave that way; I’m the adult, and I set the positive example as a parent. I also have a very hard time believing Penny talked badly about your autistic son, it just doesn’t make any sense. Why would you feel that way? You said Teresa talked about him, and now it’s Penny? You are a very paranoid person, who takes everything out of context. I’ve never seen someone who believes everyone is talking about them, EVER! You have to get a grip, because this is not healthy!

    Rdy4MyCloseUp from Jac’s Bravo blog:

    …aahh Jac… today I was only going to say positive things… but when you said, “hide behind their computers like cowards”…I thought..”what the ****”…then when you said, “What sane person tweets horrible things”, and then point #6, I thought really??…but then I realized, you are now either embarking on your new career as a comedienne OR you are just playing with our emotions…but then, there’s always that 3rd person …Jack Daniels…

    jerseygirl6657 from Jac’s Bravo blog:

    I don’t think that you focusing on the people who “hate” you is healthy… if you are the sane one (ok I’m not buying that but whatever) you would not even address the people who insult or hate on you …. Teresa has had tons more “haters” than you and she acts sane by doing the right thing IGNORING THEM!

    To be honest, your constant twitter rampages are what make people question your own sanity. Stay off social media. get a grip and take care of your son. No I am not saying you are a bad mother nor am I saying that your son is not autistic. Your actions on twitter and FB are what make you look unstable to the fans.. (something you are jealous of T about because she has tons of them and you don’t)…

    plainviewsue from Jac’s Bravo blog:

    Jacqueline, when you answer every question that you have asked of the “haters”, then so will we.

    You call out others on twitter or social media when you yourself were obsessed with spreading rumors and hate about someone who was once your best friend? Please don’t deny it. Many of us have received DM’s from you over the past year saying disgusting things about Teresa. Check out your own TL from season four.

    I am hoping that this is your swan song, because you are officially leaving the show. You need some type of therapy to deal with you life. Good luck to you.

    Christiann52 from Jac’s Bravo blog:

    Wow, you are slipping back into crazy again. How rich that you are calling the “haters” out on their tweets! What about the vile things you have said about Teresa? Not buying the bs you’re selling. I knew your sanity was too good to last. 😦

    • Laram
      September 27, 2013 at 10:46 PM

      Wow! Awesome posts of blog comments. Says it all!

    • vallygirl
      September 28, 2013 at 11:38 PM

      Hi Fame! Thanks for posting the comments that people left for Jaquline. Were these comments left for her on the actual Bravo site?
      If so that’s awesome the site is letting people speak their mind without deleting the comment or blocking the poster.

      A friend of mine got blocked for asking Richie’s wife why he was so rude to women.
      LOL it was just a question.

      Fame I love your blog!!
      This blog is amazing and I have to admit I enjoy it better than the show!

      • September 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM

        Hey valleygirl! Those comments were from Jac’s Bravo blog. Bravo has been approving negative comments this season because most of them are negative so they have no choice – unless they want everyone to post at the blogs rather than their site (but they want the hits and ad revenue!). I’m so glad you love the blog! Please keep posting 🙂

        • vallygirl
          September 29, 2013 at 12:41 AM

          Thanks Fame!
          I didn’t realize they were approving neg. comments this season. Good it’s about time!
          Still I prefer this blog over “that one”, but it’s nice to know Bravo is finally learning how viewers really feel.
          Thanks for your hard work!!

  5. Buck Henry
    September 27, 2013 at 2:57 AM

    If Bravo/Sirens media is smart, they would settle everything dealing with them out of court by paying Johnny 500,000 or a million and telling them that they (Penny) will get a spot as a housewife on the show for dropping the lawsuit. They would go for that and Penny would push him for that because she wants on the show. Also as a sweetener they can say you can still go after the others for a civil lawsuit. That will be a big part of their story for next season if they take or do the deal.

    • September 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM

      They don’t even have to do that. Johnny dropped the suit because he wanted to go for the deeper pockets. It is going to cost him a fortune in lawyers to pursue this case with vigor, money that he doesn’t have. Maybe he will get a lawyer that will work on commission. In any case, he didn’t call the police or an ambulance when the assault happened. The raw footage is not in his posession and it is easy enough to have a camera man fall over during brawl and shoot the floor, he isn’t going to get 1/2 million dollars. He may think he is, but he is not, because he signed waivers. Everybody will lie their asses off and no judge is going to give him 1/2 million dollars for a bloody nose. I would have rather seen Josephine, Janax and monkey cheeks get convicted on he charges that they were facing. At the end of the day he went for money instead of dignity. IMHO, of course. Isn’t money always the bottom line in everything? Ugh. Now I just want them to go away and bring their non-existent karma with them.

      • jennacheryl
        September 27, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        his lawyer is prob. doing it pro bono – all the free press and he did not have to sign anything.

      • Jack Hole
        September 27, 2013 at 10:54 PM

        btw gessie, I agree w you abt the $$$! I do think the drossos were wronged for sure and I think they are passionate for the truth o come out BUT I do also think there is a potential financial incentive for them as well of course.

    • September 27, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      Punitive damages. Go after Bravo and Siren for punitive damages because they willfully disregarded his safety an knowingly exposed him to injury. Punitive damages are calculated by figuring out how much money Bravo/Siren has, then awarding an amount that will punish them for their bad actions. If I am Joe Sixpack, $5,000 might make me go “ouch! I won’t do that again!” How much makes Bill Gates go Ouch? How much makes Bravo go ouch?

      Punitives are not designed to wipe someone out, but to whack them hard – get their attention.

      • September 27, 2013 at 12:28 PM

        That would be nice. But I’m not going to hold my breath. Bravo always gets away with murder.

      • Miss Alicat
        September 27, 2013 at 5:07 PM

        Supposedly Sirens did not have the necessary permits to film there, so he already has the city on his side.

        • September 27, 2013 at 7:58 PM

          But the charges have been dropped. The City no longer cares.

  6. Miss Alicat
    September 27, 2013 at 5:33 AM

    Allegedly, Jacko got the ax, Kathy has been demoted and Don Caro is getting her own show….who’s left but Tre and TB? Supposedly, a new housewife is being added, but at this point, who really cares anymore?

    • September 27, 2013 at 10:47 AM

      Nobody. The very fact that Mndy gave the Manzoids a spin-off shows just how out of touch with reality he is.

      • September 27, 2013 at 11:08 AM

        I heard the Manzos paid for this show to be shot and are trying to sell it to Bravo?
        Any truth to that? If so, I hope show is rejected and Manzoes just go away.

        • Sharon
          September 28, 2013 at 3:04 AM

          Doubt that as Al didn’t want to pay his Brownstone’s employees health insurance costs at 10K a month. They are possibly broke. I dunno.

    • elle
      September 27, 2013 at 5:16 PM

      I’d like to think that is true, but weren’t the three of them supposed to be out last year too? Yet there they were again for season 5. If it’s true about Kathy, I fear that it would set her ridiculous husband off into being even more obnoxious trying to make himself more entertaining. He seems to love being on camera.

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:25 PM

      I saw an article about two new potentials. Twin sisters named Napolitano. I’ll see if I can remember where I read it.

      • September 27, 2013 at 6:43 PM

        I mentioned that yesterday, but like you, can’t remember where I read it. It had to be one of these 3 cuz their the only ones I look at. TT, SH or allabout.

        • September 27, 2013 at 6:48 PM

          I tried to post the link but it disappeared. The article I saw was on Faux Reality.

          • September 27, 2013 at 6:57 PM

            Oh of course, I forgot to mention faux. silly me

      • September 27, 2013 at 7:45 PM

        Yes, Faux is reporting that Nicole and Teresa Napolitano are in contract negotiations with Bravo for the NJ housewives.

    • vallygirl
      September 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

      Hi Miss Alicat,
      I’m so glad too Jacko finally got axed!
      In all seriousness her only storyline was spewing hate Jacko became worst the last three seasons.
      All this talk about “I want to bring awareness to Autism” come on really Jaquline like the viewers have never heard of it. Ofcourse we have. That never made sense to me but I guess that was the only storyline besides hating on Tersesa she could come up with until she felt out after they all made up with Tersesa except for her so she decided to make amends with T.
      Actually I remember reading about her feeling left out after the Lake George make up.
      I’m just glad she’s out.

  7. September 27, 2013 at 5:52 AM

    not on this subject, but faux said he has the real story on why Dina isn’t speaking to Caroline and Chris. Said the story will be out very soon. I for one can’t wait.

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:45 AM

      I wrote a blog in September 2012 about how Jacqueline Laurita is the problem between Dina Manzo and her siblings Chris Laurita and Caroline Manzo (I took it offline recently). It will be interesting to see how it compares, and maybe I’ll put it back online after faux publishes that story.

      • September 27, 2013 at 8:08 AM

        Fame I haven’t been on your site long enough to realize you had already covered this subject. I’m sorry. I would love for you to put your blog back up when faux puts her story out about Dina’s problem with her siblings. I’m sure your blog on this subject was accurate.

      • kayswhims
        September 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM

        Maybe Dina is talking since Jaq is fired from the show? It may also explain why she recently commented on not having any hard feelings towards Danielle.

      • September 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

        Do Fame I remember the blog I thought it was spot on.

      • caffee taylor
        September 27, 2013 at 7:30 PM

        I remember that blog – it made a lot of sense. And seeing how Jac has behaved for the past few years, you can see that she is a big enough schemer to have gone after Dina’s charity.

    • Jack Hole
      September 27, 2013 at 8:42 AM

      I was actually a little confused about that-who is Clyde? Bc Dum Dum is Joe Gorga( I thought) and she said do you want to hear what Zippy D (Kim D) did to Clyde and Dum Dum’s sister, which to me translated into Teresa??!! Help!!! Lol…and off subject, I still think the fact that Kim D and Kim G are SIL’s should send up red flags to Teresa!!!!!!!!!!!

      • jennacheryl
        September 27, 2013 at 11:09 AM

        They are? I had no clue! They must hate hate each other

        • Jack Hole
          September 27, 2013 at 10:10 PM

          When the whole legal thing came to the surface, I saw it reported(the kim’s being SIL’s) and was wondering why it was getting glossed over???!!!!!! I recall saying a bunch about it on here but you know this blog can be tough to keep up with, it can go from 100 to 400 posts within hours so I am not surprised if ppl didn’t see my posts. But yes Kim D and Kim G are SIL’s!!!!!!!!!!

          • jennacheryl
            September 28, 2013 at 1:47 AM

            Sorry I think I am still relatively new on the site. That is very, very interesting indeed. Makes you wander what else is going on there.

      • NCGal
        September 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM

        I THINK Clyde may be Caro.

        • Jack Hole
          September 27, 2013 at 5:46 PM

          Gotcha, thx!!

  8. nsr1076
    September 27, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    I don’t know much about court cases and since I hope I’m never involved in one either I’m asking. Why would they drop charges? I doubt it, but do they have a better chance at getting them in a civil lawsuit? By they I mean the greeks sorry.

    • September 27, 2013 at 8:13 AM

      nsr I’m with you, I don’t know the first thing about how the court system works. This would be a good question for you to ask Jeannie about. She is a very knowledgeable person and I think her husband is a lawyer.

      • September 27, 2013 at 10:49 AM

        Yes, we shall see what her take is on all of this.

    • Jack Hole
      September 27, 2013 at 8:52 AM

      My take, they might not win per se but this is a good way for them to be able to tell the truth and to force Bravo into telling the truth and maybe stop these immoral practices. Just a guess. I was confused about how dropping the criminal charges will allow the contracts to be nullified, it did not sound like Bravo had any lawyers involved at the criminal level , so how could any judge or lawyer determine what might happen with the contracts? In fact, how did the contracts and Bravo even come into the conversation? Unless there is some standard legal thing that gag orders or contracts go “on hold” or can be broken for the sake of going before the court? Another thing I was thinking is maybe the cast went there and said they could not reveal certain information due to their contractual obligations (i.e. they cannot rat out production for the set up, yadda yadda) and the judge determined the next legal step is to deal w this civilly?

      • Jack Hole
        September 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM

        After re-reading the title of this blog, I am lol-ing @ myself!! It says they are all dropping the charges to “allow a civil filing” Duh to me!!!!! Lol

      • September 27, 2013 at 12:29 PM

        excellent points.

        • Laram
          September 27, 2013 at 10:50 PM

          I agree @gessie!

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        September 27, 2013 at 7:34 PM

        Bravo/Sirens knew that the 3 Little Pigs were in deep legal trouble. There were too many witnesses to the beat down. Given that the judge is a no nonsense person, they would have most likely have been convicted. Bravo/Sirens was the one that stepped up and offered the Greeks out of thier contracts is they dropped the charges. Since the Greeks are no longer bound by the terms of the contract, they can go forward with a civil suit.

    • elemcee
      September 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM

      I know nothing about the law. But, if the contract has been nullified, they can start talking today. Why would they have to wait for a lawsuit? Penny can republish and publish her blogs, and they can start spilling all of TSIL’s and Bravo’s secrets right now. ??????? Jeannie and Saddle River might be able to help us.

      • caffee taylor
        September 27, 2013 at 7:33 PM

        I don’t understand how Joe Gorga and the Lauritas can nullify a contract that Bravo/Sirens is a party to. They can allow the greeks to sue them personally, but if the Greeks signed a contract with Bravo, can’t Bravo still prevent them from disclosing any secrets of the show?

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          September 27, 2013 at 7:36 PM

          Bravo/Sirens was the party that offered to void the contract in exchange for the charges being dropped. From what I’ve heard, the Judge was about to throw the book at the 3 of them. Remember – they paraded a fake lawyer around previously and the Village does not take kindly to me made a fool.

          • elemcee
            September 27, 2013 at 9:54 PM

            So Saddle, is there a “legal-ish” reason that they would choose not to “expose” TSIL and Bravo until the civil trial? I genuinely have no idea what would legally be happening now. Would it be in their best interests to stay numb until trial? Because, if that is the case, I am sure the show will be long forgotten before any of their truths came to the public. Civil cases drag on for years, don’t they?

  9. September 27, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    Jacqueline’s Bravo blog for episode 17:

    “Penny “Taught Autism”?
    Posted by Jacqueline Laurita – September 25, 2013


    Kim D. told me I had actually been in Penny’s presence a couple of times in the past in quick passing at her store and at one of her events, but for some reason, I couldn’t remember her AT ALL. I certainly don’t know the girl, and we have never been formally introduced. I am sure I would have remembered her if she had been rude to me in the past, so she must have been nice to my face. Even when Penny was pointed out to me at Moxie, she didn’t look familiar at all to me. Maybe I was distracted by her hair, but I didn’t recognize her face. Come to think of it, I have met lots of people, and nobody has actually been rude to my face upon meeting them. I guess most rude people just talk behind my back or hide behind their computers like cowards.

    Once we arrived at Moxie Salon, I was told it was rumored that Johnny may be coming, contrary to what I had heard previously. I really wanted to confront him about what he had been saying on social media, to the press, and around town about my family, me as a mother, and about my son. Maybe because his wife “taught Autism” he thought he was an expert on the topic and could tell whether or not my son “graduated” that class with a diagnosis. He is the one constantly talking about all of us on social media and everywhere else, but WE are the ones trying to get attention? Ok. (Eye roll.)

    My husband and I were disgusted and bewildered by the amount of hate that was obsessively coming from him. It was unbelievable to me that a grown man would put so much effort into trying to ruin another person’s life that he didn’t even know for no apparent reason. I was curious if Johnny had an aggressive mental disorder that could potentially be very dangerous. What sane person tweets horrible things about people he’s never met all day long? Are his hot dogs not selling these days, because I can think of something entertaining for him to do with those left overs to fill up his…spare time?!

    Maybe after confronting Johnny, he would tell me a random juvenile delinquent had hacked into his social media and it wasn’t really him. That would make much more sense. It certainly didn’t sound like a grown man. I decided to get to the bottom of it and ask the both of them face to face. If it was them saying those awful things I saw and heard, they could at least have the guts to look me in the eyes and say it to my face instead of hiding behind a computer like cowards. This was their big chance to say, directly to me, what they have always wanted to say, or had been saying about me and my family. I was giving them their shot. I then wanted to know their reasoning for saying these horrible, ugly things. I was just trying to make sense of it all. It was interesting how he announced on Twitter after that night that his attorney advised him to delete all his tweets over the past few years. That is why he had deleted them? I know why.

    I confronted Penny because there were things on my mind that I felt needed addressing, and I wasn’t about to let it go. Penny was finally in the same room as me, and the odds of us being in the same room again were slim to none. To my surprise, Penny was just as sweet as pie to me. I was confused. I actually kind of liked her when she was being so nice to my face and when she said that she loves kids with Autism, although she kind of lost me a little when she said she “taught Autism.” I’m still trying to figure that one out, but that is neither here nor there.

    So… Penny denied everything to my face as I looked her straight in her eyes, and she, of course, defended her husband. All I was hearing from her was that they didn’t do it, someone made them do it, and they were following orders from someone who was feeding them ammunition. OK… contradicting… but she sounded somewhat convincing, but truth or lie, what more could I say to her if she wasn’t going to admit anything to me? I wasn’t about to get into a “Yes you did!”/”No I didn’t!” war with her. Either way, their actions were unacceptable. I had to move on from it. Ugh! I hate when people lie to my face and/or about me. Have some integrity.

    I wanted to ask Johnny the same things I asked Penny. I couldn’t believe the things he said and did. Guess you’ll have to wait for the season finale.

    Now I will address “haters” in general for a minute. Haters on social media baffle me. Please answer these questions.

    1. Why follow someone on social media that you don’t like? That is weird. I don’t like your negative energy, and that is why I am not following you and blocked you. I’m sorry that you feel rejected. Try being kind.

    2. If we have never met, how could I have hurt or offended you personally, and so deeply, that you feel compelled to not only reach out to me, but to fixate, insult, obsess, and harass me? It’s as if you actually believe I murdered your puppy. I didn’t.

    3. How is me living MY life, and the choices I make, effecting YOUR life so negatively? If it’s hard to watch, and effecting you so emotionally, I advise you not to watch me anymore. Fast forward or don’t follow me. Hate makes you ugly and is not healthy. Save yourself.

    4. Did you know there is a difference between constructive criticism and insulting someone? Google it! When you insult me, I block you.

    5. Did you know that repetitively spreading rumors consisting of accusations that are not proven to be true (FALSE accusations) and maliciously stating them as facts is slanderous, defamation of character, and harassment?

    6. Do you understand the difference between having an opinion of someone and seeking out a complete stranger to fixate, insult, slander, defame, harass, and obsess over them? It is abnormal, psychotic, and illegal.

    7. If your daily focus consists of finding ways to hate on me, aren’t you losing focus on yourself and on important positive things and people that you should be focusing on in your own life? While the hate inside you has been growing and eating you alive, I’ve been doing my job working for Bravo, creating a beauty website I’m hoping to launch soon (AltruisticBeauty.com) and beauty products, raising autism awareness in various ways, writing books, and taking care of my family. How you doin’?

    “Haters keep following me, while I follow my dreams.”

    8. Do you have a psychotic disorder that may or may not have been addressed? That would explain a lot, and I would handle you differently. Check on that.

    The reality is I’m really not your enemy; you are your own enemy. You are your own worst enemy. If you continue on this path, you will self-destruct, and I will not have done a thing to you. Get a hold of yourselves!

    The truth always comes out in the end. That is why I don’t fear it.

    I am becoming an even stronger Autism advocate as time goes on. As hard as you haters are trying, you can’t stop me. I have too much passion and I am too strong for you.

    Thank you to all you wonderful, kind hearted, supportive people that have appreciated our sincere efforts to raise Autism awareness, who love my family, who have supported me no matter what, who lift me up, who have shared with me their own stories, information, and resources, who make me smile and inspire me every day. You are a part of my joy and I wish you all the best, always! (The rest of you….not so much) XOXO!


    Comment by Jeannie5233 Submitted on 2013/09/25 at 7:07 PM:

    (1) She testified JTG was told not to come. Yet in her blog, she states she heard he was coming. Of course she did – the Wakiles were on the phone with the Greeks for a lengthy time the night before trying to convince JTG to come.

    (2) She testified she was scared to death of him that night. If she was so scared, why did she confront him then (we haven’t seen this part yet)?

    (3) She says JTG erased the tweets because his lawyer advised him to; yet Bravo was able to capture his other tweets but not the one where he alleged spoke about Nicholas. Note she says he was doing this over a long period of time. If that were the case, there would be more than one missing tweet. For someone who is notorious for taking screenshots and making recordings that she “can’t disclose”, how come she or the producers have not been able to come up with any of them. It is also known, that Twitter keeps an archive; even deleted tweets can be recovered.

    P.P.S. Rumor has it Jacqueline will not be back next Season and Kathy will be a “Friend”.

    • Russkaya
      September 27, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      That would explain the attack on bloggers. I thought it was so bad for her image that her and Chris kept trashing on the bloggers in a couple episodes this season then she comes out with this. So the tweets ands blogs must have hit some nerve with her. Does she think she is the exception to the rule? Every housewife gets some negative tweets but no other goes to this length to attack back. She has no class and I doubt she has a p.r. person. Also how she says haters have no effect on her life then why the angry lengthy attack back. If she is fired, I wonder what’s the reason for bravos decision. Ps. It’s affecting not effecting. Idiot.

  10. September 27, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    Jac really has lost her mind. Everything she is accusing others of doing “behind a computer” Is exactly what she does behind her computer. Now that she is leaving bravo, just maybe she will consider talking to a professional. One can’t only hope. If she is not welling to do this for herself, maybe she will do it for her children.

  11. Honnie Badger
    September 27, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    Appropos of nothing, but JTG has so much personality in his face. He looks like a fun guy to hang out with.

  12. Jack Hole
    September 27, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    Also, it is interesting that she testified that he was told not to come…isn’t that kind of blaming the victim? And, why would he have been told not to come? Were they planning something confrontational? What a moron-smdh!!!

  13. September 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    I think your right, Honnie. But IMO his wife is another story. I don’t think Penny has much going on for herself

    • my6girls2012
      September 27, 2013 at 8:52 AM

      I think JTG, like Juicy, got caught up with their wives wanting to be on this show.

      • Honnie Badger
        September 27, 2013 at 9:21 AM

        Hi, Gloria and My6girls! I agree with both of you. There are two types of women, basically — those that want the reality TV fame and those who are more humble and appreciate the anonymity of not being in such a harsh spotlight.

        I do remember reading awhile ago that Penny had devoted regular time in her salon to help out folks in need (forget the circumstances), and I find that very noble and sweet. I also remember someone campaigning very hard on blog sites for her to be added; this person did her no favors and this person was very uncouth and vulgar. So, I don’t know what to make of her, only that I do feel she is doing herself so much more harm by purposefully embroiling herself in this mess. All she had to say to Sirens/Bravo is “I will not get involved; I have a business to run and people to help. Thanks but no thanks, leave me alone.”

        On a superficial note, she can do with a much more attractive hairstyle. The Kmart Paris Hilton/Courtney Stodden bleach extensions are disgusting.

        • my6girls2012
          September 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM

          Thanks Honnie, you said it so much better than I could! So, I was watching the First Look last night and was wondering if anyone noticed that as Caroline was yelling at Kim D, she was getting the hell out of Dodge. LOL I believe she knew that if she stuck around, some of her family’s dirt was gonna be thrown on the floor.

        • September 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM

          She had a little army of uncouth and vulgar campaigners. They were trashy. The Bravo producers played Penny and JTG like a violin. And won.

          • Honnie Badger
            September 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM

            Love your viewpoint on this Gessie! Yes, a Stradivarius, right? 🙂

            BTW, hope your gorgeous canine companion is doing very well. He looks so content in his photo!

            • September 27, 2013 at 12:36 PM

              Aw, he is a doll. He is a little sad because it turns out the dog park I was taking him to is a former toxic dump and is now closed. It was the only decent one. And it is way to0 hot to go for long walks. His life (and mine) will improve significantly by Nov. 1st. Anyway, I’m going to dump his ass when I have a grandchild. Just kidding. But how long do I have to wait to be a grandmother? Although I saw some pre-natal vitamins in my daughters house and she told me she is taking them because they are good for anybody. Huh?

              • mzjulesaz
                September 27, 2013 at 12:57 PM

                They actually don’t recommend taking them if you aren’t pregnant. They recommend taking a multi-vitamin to meet your needs.

                • September 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM

                  mzjule, Thing must of really changed in the last 20 years or my dr didn’t know what he was talking about, he told me every women should take pre-natal pregnant or not.

              • suedechik79
                September 29, 2013 at 12:48 PM

                Those are the kind of vitamins that they give people on military submarines because they are like multis but have a lil bit more of everything. They give them to men. Let her take them.

  14. Miami53
    September 27, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    Fame, On site Reality Tea, they are posting pictures from the Reunion Parts 1 & 2.

  15. Miami53
    September 27, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    I wish there was a way to erase posts that I’ve done when its posted twice or I’ve made a mistake. If anyone looks at the pictures of the reunion, Terese looks beautiful…not as tanned, but I think the dress is way too short. Its funny, last year she wore the pageant dress and now TSIL is kind of wearing one….Katfish too!!.

    • September 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

      I figured copycat TSIL was going to wear a long dress this year! I wonder if TSIL has a PR person? If she does, they suck!!! Right now, from TSIL singing to her “I’m a puttana and my husband forces me to have sex” book she is a laughing stock! She’s not the least bit humble and is extremely conceited!

      • Squeezy
        September 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        Remember glitter eye shadow?? Lol

        • September 27, 2013 at 4:29 PM

          Yeap!!! LOL! I remember the glitter eyeshadow!

  16. kayswhims
    September 27, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Fame, Was it here that I saw the info about Chris having papers to keep Jaq from deposition for court because she is crazy? I think she wants people to think she is crazy. What happened to their fraud case?

    • September 27, 2013 at 5:56 PM

      Kay, I think it was this site that had the story about Chris claiming jac was not mentally capable of giving testimony regarding their fraud case. Not sure where their case stands at this time. Somehow they seem to keep it out of the news. Don’t quote me because if I remember right there were a few sites that were writing about their case

  17. Lee
    September 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Bravo will settle this case with the Greeks by writing a big fat check. Ms. Andy does not want the unedited tapes to become public. From my sources, I heard Penny showed Melissa proof that it was Caroline who was digging into Mel’s past in order to divert attention away from Al Manzo as a cheater. Caroline lost to Teresa on the cook book deal, so she wants to make sure that she does not lose to Melissa on the chance of getting a spinoff.

    Teresa made a good point in her blog when she questioned why Melissa would question Penny about a Hospital visit rather than the cheating rumors. Could it be that they are true because the Gorgas are more concerned about who is starting rumors about her rather than proving them as false.

    • September 28, 2013 at 5:32 AM

      Lee, “Penelope Pitstop” is suppose to add to her blog from yesterday, 9-27-2013. She asked for questions and I hope she answer’s mine, truthfully, regarding Caroline! Penny once wrote in her blog that the Gorga’s are being used by Caroline to do her dirty work. Which, I believe, was to get the Greeks to lie and say Tre is behing the stupid cheating story! I guess the Wakile’s wanted a “piece of the pie” and joined the Gorga’s at trying to convince the Greeks to turn on Tre. I hope your sources are correct because that changes things, a lot, and makes sense! It was kind of wierd how Caroline seemed to not like TSIL, all of a sudden! Here, I was thinking that Caroline finally seen thru TSIL’s facade! Also, the whole Wyatt Webb thing and Caroline’s talking head about how TSIL and Tre are similar. Thanks for your info! I’m glad Tre pointed out TSIL’s wierd question to Penny regarding Papa Gorga. If someone’s posting things about you regarding infidelity, most innocent people would ask “why you posting lies about me?”. TSIL’s a cheater, TB’s a hothead with little man syndrome and it appears that Caroline might be the biggest trouble maker of them all! Caroline seems to know the difference between being “nice” and being “manipulative”! That would answer the question as to why Caroline likes the Gorga’s! Their easy to manipulate and control!

  18. September 27, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Why wasn’t MeHo there supporting her hubby or did she take that time to poop?

    • Debbie J
      September 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM

      Too funny!!!

    • kayswhims
      September 27, 2013 at 2:36 PM

      LMAO. I wonder if Bryan Bulldog Bowen knows her secret – she poops.

      • September 27, 2013 at 8:13 PM

        Lol, I might tweet him and ask if that was the demise of their relationship.

  19. September 27, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Maybe that is Meho doesn’t appear to be too angry. Just faking it.

  20. bug
    September 27, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Melissa Gorga is trending #2 on yahoo. Ugh! I knew it all this publicity is making her famous. Bravo isn’t stupid. We are feeding into all of this. Melissa is the new star of Bravo…gross!

  21. Anonymous
    September 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    And her book reviews are at 1 1/2 stars.

  22. bug
    September 27, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    In my opinion, Bravo wants us to stop talking about Teresa and start talking about Melissa. It’s all about Melissa everywhere I look. The saying is “bad publicity is better than no publicity at all!”

    • September 27, 2013 at 7:53 PM

      which we have stopped talking about t,,,why?

  23. bug
    September 27, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Melissa quote to Teresa ” You don’t get to sit here and play victim, Guess who the victim is, ME!!!” I’m starting to see that Melissa was telling it like it is. Everything is falling in place. Caroline told us that Joe was going away. Caroline got the Big Spinoff. Kathy got her book. Jacqueline has a cause to believe in, she’s a charity case in it’s self. Penny looks like she has secured a deal as the new villain. I have been had. Melissa is number 1 trending on yahoo! For what? For nothing! Thank god I turned my channel. Modern Family is a hoot!

    • September 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM

      I knew we were feeding to much meho

      • bug
        September 27, 2013 at 3:07 PM

        I did too! And when I got on my computer and saw that she was trending #1 I thought “She did it!” She is famous for nothing just like the Kardashians. I read an article about how Kim Kardashian’s friend Jonathon Cheban who is linked to Ashlee Holmes and Melissa Gorga likes to put negative stories about his “friends” out to the media because it makes them famous. Hmmmm! She wrote this book that is so negative and disgusting. She’s not dumb. I just can’t believe it! ugh! Crazy like a fox!

        • September 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM

          Thank-goodness she’s not trending anymore!!! It’s George Zimmerman! If your going to China stay away from the hornet’s there, they kill! Oh, and warn drug abuser’s not to buy any “Russian” street drugs called “krokodil”, they’ll eat your flesh! How long does one stay “trending” usually? From Bug’s 3:07pm time to the time stamp I have? If so, she didn’t stay “trending” for long!

          • bug
            September 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM

            Thank you lord Jesus! I don’t want her to be popular for this! I don’t want her to be popular at all! Thanks ceeeseee! You made my day!!!!

            • September 27, 2013 at 5:16 PM

              Yeap, George Z., Candace Cameran, killer hornet’s and a flesh eating drug (and six other topics) knocked her clear off the “trending” chart!

        • September 27, 2013 at 8:10 PM

          She is famous for being a f**cking moron, mocked for her stupid book nationwide. I have a hard time believing that she is thrilled that everybody views her as constipated imbecile. She will never be respected fr anything, and in five years she will be a complete nobody.

          • patriciafromco
            September 28, 2013 at 12:22 AM

            totally agree and would of partied all her money , family down the drain when it runs out “suddenly” just the way it always happens

          • Sharon
            September 28, 2013 at 3:25 AM

            AGREED, You need a HI 5 button on here. Such fun!

          • cass
            September 28, 2013 at 7:37 AM

            yet another review of her book….not looking too good!!!http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/729390843

            • suedechik79
              September 29, 2013 at 1:01 PM

              Its a great book if you want to read between the lines and see whats going on between her and Joe and where her head is re: relationships. Its definitely not an advice book, its a revelatory tome about how submissive she claims to be and how dysfunctional their relationship is.

  24. elemcee
    September 27, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    I just watched part of the finale clip at SH. I have to say, I am proud that Tre grabs her sister-in-law and Kim D and pulls them out of the fray. TSIL can say what she wants but Tre cares about her safety.

  25. Squeezy
    September 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Haha Julie Chen is talking about Melissa GorJa… Sharon said Who is this woman? Lol I thought everyone knew her, she’s been to the VMAs.
    She just read from her book at the audience is snickering. Sheryl said maintenance sex with the maintenance man.

  26. Saddle_River_NJ
    September 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    One thing that seems to have been overlooked is what the settlement appears to be. All charges are dropped and the Greeks are released from thier contract? Jax, Chris and the Poison Filled Puppet have no legal standing to void the contract. The only way the get released is if Sirens/Bravo agrees to release them in exchange to the Greeks dropping the charges. Given how seriouly the Producers want to control everything, there must have been something pretty damning in order for them to void the contract. Something just doesn’t add up that Bravo would let them free so easily.

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:39 PM

      I believe Bravo was afraid of what would be exposed if the criminal trail took place. I do not believe ALL, if any of the fight footage, was destroyed. There was more than one camera person in there. Then there would be witness testimony, people who are not under the Bravo contracts, who witnessed what really happened that night; the day TB and (I cannot not think of a word foul enough to describe Rich) visited JTG at the family diner; the real reason Caroline was so angry, etc.

      In my opinion, JTG and Penny are more interested is $$$ than justice being handed to the Three Stooges.

      The following is an excerpt as to why people chose to pursue a matter in the Civil Courts as opposed to the Criminal Courts. In my opinion it fits JTG and Penny’s agenda.

      “When third parties are held liable for plaintiffs’ injuries, they generally are NOT subject to punitive damages. This is because they do not intend for the victims to be injured. However, since third parties are often organizations or corporations, such actions can sometimes offer the victim alternative potential sources from which to collect other types of damages which might not be collectable against the perpetrator.”

      Let’s face it, the perpetrators in this case have little to no money.

      • September 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM

        Again, moma this makes a lot of sense.

      • Sharon
        September 28, 2013 at 2:22 AM

        If John K can get some money from anyone involved after his head was bashed I’m all for it. It will also get more media reporting on how scummy the Lauritas and Gorgas are.

    • September 27, 2013 at 8:10 PM


    • September 27, 2013 at 8:11 PM

      Something is rotten in Denmark.

  27. Mcurru
    September 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Did InTouch Weekly just release an article that Dina was returning to RHONJ?? So happy! Maybe she can teach Messy a thing or two about class.

  28. Miami53
    September 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Penelope Pitstop has added some more to her story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • September 27, 2013 at 7:55 PM

      Miami or anyone. Where can I find Penelope’s Pitstop addition to her post? Was it on Faux?

      • Miami53
        September 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

        Yes, it was on Faux

        • September 27, 2013 at 10:38 PM

          Thank you I went thru all of faux an could not find her anything Penelope wrote???? I read it when it first came out and love it just cant find anything on it now???????

  29. Jack Hole
    September 27, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Sorry if this has already been posted but just thought I would share… and if you cannot get it to open by clicking ( I am not sure if it will hyperlink, then copy and paste of course)!!


  30. Jack Hole
    September 27, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Oh yay! For once I got something to work!!

  31. Just Me
    September 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    I don’t think there’s a guarantee for a big payout for JTG from Sirens/Bravo. He’d have to have a good lawyer. I assume he’s already been offered a settlement. If so, he should just take it, shut up and disappear. He acted like scum in this whole thing, too. All for a little reality TV “fame.” Pathetic. And he needs to shut the hell up on Twitter until the civil stuff is over. Jeez, I’m glad I’m not his poor lawyer. The bigger question I have is what the heck is going to happen with the Lauritas now that they aren’t getting that big Bravo paycheck. You know Blck isn’t profitable. They said so themselves. And don’t they owe millions of dollars from all their legal troubles? I thought in their Signature Apparel fraud case they agreed to a settlement where they have to pay all money the back. Right?

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM

      Interesting just, I haven’t heard anything about them reaching any kind of an agreement with their signature apparel case. If you hear anything more about it, please clue me in.

      • kayswhims
        September 27, 2013 at 7:05 PM

        What does this mean?

        Signature Apparel Group LLC (Creditors’ Committee Representation)

        Olshan represented the Creditors’ Committee in the Chapter 11 case of Signature Apparel, a privately owned, multi-faceted apparel company that designed, developed, manufactured, distributed and sold branded apparel worldwide. Olshan currently represents the Responsible Person appointed under Signature’s Chapter 11 plan of liquidation. In connection with this representation, we investigated and commenced litigation regarding officer and director misconduct, breach of fiduciary duties and related claims. The proceeds from this litigation were then used to fund a meaningful distribution to the creditors.

        • kayswhims
          September 27, 2013 at 7:07 PM


          (posted September 11, 2013) In re Signature Apparel Group LLC, 2013 Bankr. LEXIS 3748 (S.D.N.Y. Sept. 10, 2013). Law Firm represented three creditors who filed an involuntary petition to put Signature into Chapter 7 bankruptcy. The case was converted to Chapter 11. Law Firm was appointed counsel to the creditors’ committee. Law Firm then commenced this action on behalf of Signature against Defendants for various business torts and related claims. Defendants moved to disqualify Law Firm. In this opinion the bankruptcy judge, calling the motion a “lightweight litigation maneuver,” denied the motion. The court put the standing issue aside and ruled that there was simply no showing of a conflict. The court also noted that in smaller Chapter 11 cases the same law firm might wear several different hats.

        • September 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM

          I read somewhere that Chris had successfully had his wife’s name removed from the case.

  32. September 27, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    On a happier note – It is Friday and my husband is coming home! His work requires a good deal of traveling so the boys and I are looking forward to seeing him. It’s hard getting used to him being gone again because for the last 4 years he’s been home based. We used to travel with him but it’s a lot harder now with our baby girls (dogs). Surprisingly, not many hotels allow pets, even fewer allow pets up to 50lbs, and those that allow pets pushing 150lbs are almost non-existent no matter how calm they are.

    I can’t complain though, I’ve watched my boys do things and show their maturity in their dads absence that makes me beam with pride. My baby girls sleep on my husband’s side of the bed and serenade me to sleep at night with their snoring. But most of all, I love that I still get butterflies in my stomach knowing he’s on his way home. However, I do hope he gets to stay longer than 36hrs this time.

    I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:21 PM

      I’m happy for you and your kids, Calpso. I can relate a little with what you are talking about. My hubby has been working out of town this whole summer. But I’m fortunate to be able to travel with him anytime I like. We have a small dog that is just like another kids to us, so I have been able to take her with me. He is only a four hour drive from are home so there has been times when the dog and I would come home for a few days to take care of bills/banking cuz there is no wifi where he is at. But I can relate to the butterflies in your tummy. I get them every time I go back up to stay with him. He feels the same way. I have been with him since I was 16 years old and we still can’t stand to be away from one another for very long. Hope you have a wonderful weekend with your family.

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:41 PM

      I hope you have a wonderful weekend also. Enjoy your family.

    • September 27, 2013 at 8:14 PM

      calypso I can see my hubby pass me in the car,me takeing the kids to store and my hearts still feels dragonflies,.people think its silly after 57 yrs together but that’s ok .
      GOD IS GOOD,love your love for your babies.

      • September 27, 2013 at 8:21 PM

        That is REAL LOVE celi, after 57 years. You should be writing a book. I wish I could live to see how these two, TB and TSIL are doing 48 years from now.

        • September 27, 2013 at 8:55 PM

          thank you all
          LOVE TO ALL
          I still got something comn ,so sorry I keep forgetting

          • September 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM

            I pray that your daughter can get her life straightened out so she can care for her children. If for some reason this is not to be, how lucky are her children to have a grandmother like your self and an aunt like your oldest daughter. May God Bless all of you.

          • packerlover
            September 28, 2013 at 1:17 AM

            Me Celi, God bless you and your entire family, but especially your daughter Ash. I pray she finds herself, and comes home to you and her children. You sound like a strong woman and a wonderful matriarch to your family. This is what a real woman goes through, and how a real woman deals with adversities in life! With real love, selflessness, and strength. God bless!

        • September 27, 2013 at 9:12 PM

          moma, I hope I’m around long enough to see where these two are in ten year’s. Don’t wish for any marriage to end but, if these two are still married in ten years I will be surprised. If my memory serves me right, we have a few people that post here that have been married a long time. Jeannie is one of them and I think you are another one..

      • elemcee
        September 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM

        Celi, that is so romantic and not silly whatsoever! Your husband is a lucky man, but I am thinking he knows that! Anyone who thinks that is silly is just jealous.

      • September 27, 2013 at 9:05 PM

        wow, 57 years. How old were you guys when you married or got together?

        • September 27, 2013 at 10:05 PM

          I met him when he came to my house to trick or treat ,mydeddy said oh we don’t fool w that stuff come on in n have a hamburger w us I was 11 he was 15,he tells everyone he came to meet us girls ,we had just moved to town, we married 1 was 14 he 18. ,I will be 69 soon he will be 73 soon,i hope im not being a meho ,hope all this is adding up, well soon it may be 58 yrs together, but the one and only for me .so funny to reminiss.

          • September 27, 2013 at 10:19 PM

            A beautiful love story. That is the way it happened back in the day. You, my dear celi, are NOT a meho.

            • September 27, 2013 at 10:38 PM

              thank you,now im going to bed bfor I say more

          • September 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM

            Oh celi, You were only 14 when you were married. ( I thought I was young at 16 and hubby 21) what can I say except, congratulations!!!!!!!!! I love to hear stories like this. If I’m not being too nosey, how many children do you have and what are their ages? ( just doing some math in my head ( I just turned 50, so by the time I’m your age, God welling. I will be married 53 years?? hope my math is correct. Anyway, God Bless praying for you and our family.

            • September 27, 2013 at 11:58 PM

              we have 8 children
              52,50,48,25,24,22,18,15=6 girls 2 boys.

              • September 28, 2013 at 12:54 AM

                Wow, your amazing

          • chrissy401
            September 28, 2013 at 12:24 AM


          • elemcee
            September 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM

            Celi, my mother was 16 and my father was 18. No shotgun wedding, my sister was born a year later! They are still two goofy teenagers in love. My Daddy turned 67 yesterday. These are the marriages I want to read about!

            • September 28, 2013 at 11:45 AM


            • September 28, 2013 at 9:23 PM

              elemcee, Love to hear about these kind of marriages. your blessed to have parents that are still in love after all these years. God welling, my hubby and I will be one of these true love stories that are so awesome. Most of my boys friends come from broken homes and they think its just great that their parents are still together. Our boys really take pride in letting everyone know that their parents are still together after so many years. I have to admit, it does my heart good that r boy’s are proud of their parents relationship. we also waited almost ten years before we were blessed with r first son. Not that we didn’t try for kids before ten years, it’s just the hand we were dealt. Everything happens for a reason.

          • Laram
            September 28, 2013 at 3:51 PM

            So cute, Celi!

    • September 27, 2013 at 10:14 PM

      Thanks everyone. I didn’t think I’d get the chance to be back on here tonight but my husband was delayed so we have a couple more hours to wait but all is good my nephew called and he is coming to spend the weekend with us. Yeah! He’s 17 and lives out of town, so we don’t get to see him but about once every 6 weeks. We’ll be grilling at midnight and playing monopoly till dawn.

      • September 27, 2013 at 11:18 PM

        Sounds like fun to me. ENJOY I have 14 nephews and love them all. My license plate on my car reads Aunti Gloria 14

      • mzjulesaz
        September 27, 2013 at 11:36 PM


  33. NCGal
    September 27, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    I may be in the minority here, but I am very happy TSIL is trending. A day or so ago, there were only about 20 news sources covering the controversy. Today there are almost 70. Anyone who sees her trending and clicks on her name is going to get some very disturbing information.

    And the Gorgas keep on giving. TB has laughed at the criticism, and his lawyer called the review “trash” and gave the book “5 stars”. TSIL is trying to explain it away by saying it was taken out of context, forgetting that there is NO acceptable context for that type of statement.

    Bravo, I believe, hoped this would go away – be a one day story. Hence, the silence from Andy/Bravo. But it doesn’t seem to be going away, it is seeping into more and more mainstream publications,

    The Food Network quickly fired Paul Deen for racial remarks . Here is a “Bravolebrity” making disturbing and disgusting comments about women and marital rape – and women make up most of Bravo’s viewing audience (guess on my part, but I think it’s safe to say). For Bravo to not take any action is reprehensible and at some point, I think they are going to have to address it in some way. How that plays out will be interesting.

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:32 PM

      You do make a good point about her trending. It could go either way, good for her or bad for her.

    • bug
      September 27, 2013 at 6:44 PM

      That is a very good point! I agree with you 100 %. I apologize for my emotional post but when I saw her name trending I wanted to cry. Those Jersey women bring out so many emotions in me. I know its because of the family drama. Commenters on other boards are so cruel about the rape issure and that makes me sad 😦 Joe Gorga does come across as very disgusting and very disturbing. He always has. What is wrong with him? Grabbing Joe Giudice ‘s private parts. Disgusting. Why does Andy kiss up to them? And this book…Perhaps Melissa thought it would be cute if she wrote a Fifty Shades of Grey book. BUT THAT IS FICTION!. Women have fought to long and to hard to be seen as equal parts in our marriages. We are no longer seen as property. I still say Melissa is crazy as a fox, if she chooses to get out of this marriage she will have many people on her side .She will be seen as the brain washed victim of Joey Gorga. Gosh I hope i’m wrong. I just don’t know anymore. I wish I would just stop trying to figure all this out. But I’m addicted. Hi…I’m bug and I’m addicted to trash tv 😦

      • NCGal
        September 27, 2013 at 7:59 PM

        No need to apologize. I wasn’t even referring to you – I was making a general statement – I had read elsewhere that people are concerned about the publicity she is getting.

        The rape issue is my biggest concern as well. It is disturbing and appalling on so many levels. It’s compounded by that fact that I believe a good portion of her fan base are impressionable teens and pre-teens who may come away thinking that type of behavior is acceptable. As you have said, we have fought long and hard.

        Melissa’s book does herself or women in general, no favors. And their three children are being raised in a home with those “values”? I feel for them. I hope there are other, decent role models in their lives, especially as they get older.

        If we really get past all of the spin and “it’s out of context” – what it comes down to is that Joe Gorga actually said, in a book that his wife authored, that NO does not mean NO, that women want to be dominated, forcible sex is fine, and that women should give men what they want.

        How disgusting is that! Bravo truly needs to show Joe Gorga the door! Whether they keep Melissa or not – they can debate that – but Joe Gorga needs to be gone!

        • bug
          September 27, 2013 at 8:55 PM

          Excellent and true comment! I forgot that her fan base is mainly young adults and she has a daughter and 2 sons. I didn’t even think of that. I’ve been so wrapped up in winning and losing that I didn’t think about who’s reading this book. I didn’t think about how this will affect those little kids. I really am sorry. It was so thoughtless of me. I am so glad you stopped me and brought me back to my good senses. What was I thinking? I have a good marriage. I am lucky to have a good husband but there are a lot of women all around the world who aren’t so lucky. If I step back and put all of this stuff together even the pooping thing isn’t funny…its disturbing. I am going to go back and view this in a different life. I should be advocating for women instead of just being angry at Bravo. Thank you again NCGal!

          • September 27, 2013 at 9:35 PM

            No apology necessary bug. We all get caught up in other things and this will distract us. You seem to be too hard on yourself at times. Your right about her pooping comment being disturbing, but consider the source. She honestly thought her pooping comment was funny. I noticed this when she was talking about her book with Kathy and Hoda. Neither one of them thought there was anything funny about her stupid pooping comment, I could see it on their faces. This goes to show how much she is lacking in her personality. Even if I didn’t already have an opinion about Melissa, I could never befriend her and I’m basing this on lack of personality and lack of humor. She would NEVER be someone I would want to hang out with. From reading your posts, I can tell her are a very loving, kind person, now that’s someone I would enjoy being around.

            • bug
              September 27, 2013 at 9:59 PM

              Awww thanks Gloria. I know I would really enjoy being around you too 🙂 I just believe very strongly in family (which is why I get upset with this show), I don’t like conflict, I root for the underdog, and when I am wrong I am the first to admit it. I never saw Melissa Gorga as the victim before. I have both a son and daughter. They are grown adults. I raised them both to have a HEALTHY marriage. Is this really Melissa’s marriage? I thought this was as fake as her singing. I really didn’t believe it. But then it was kindly (and thank you for the kindness part other people would have been really unkind) pointed out to me it wasn’t an issue about the truth, it was about the message of the book…LIGHTBULB MOMENT! This book should never ever should have been printed. NEVER! Thanks Gloria! 🙂 You’re a real sweet person!

              • September 27, 2013 at 11:35 PM

                Bug, No thanks necessary. I can tell your a very loving, caring and thoughtful person. Don’t be so hard on your self..

              • NCGal
                September 28, 2013 at 4:54 AM

                Sounds to me like you believe in all of the right things! Your children are fortunate to have had you for a role model, not everyone is as blessed. The fact that you raised two children to have healthy marriages is something to be very, very proud of! Not easy to do in today’s world.

        • cass
          September 28, 2013 at 7:48 AM
    • suedechik79
      September 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      Bravo, like all other things on the TV, are mind controlling, reprogramming centers of nastiness. Nothing that any of the networks do are out of altruism or a sense of responsibility. Paula Deens case was promoted by the media for specific reasons, not because the Food Network is soooooooooo concerned with so called racist remarks.

  34. mzjulesaz
    September 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    I’m excited for Pappadeaux tonight! Hubby prefers steakhouses, but said yeah a big ole lobster tail sounds good.

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:21 PM

      Enjoy! We’re grilling steaks tonight. It’s the first time the weather hasn’t been hot and humid in a while and the mosquitos aren’t too bad.

      • bug
        September 27, 2013 at 6:30 PM

        Have a good time!!!

      • September 27, 2013 at 6:37 PM

        I prefer to grill anytime the weather allows, which is 80% of the time around here. Not only does the food taste better, it’s a quick and easy clean up.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 27, 2013 at 6:46 PM

        Have fun with your hubby tonight and enjoy having him home!

    • September 27, 2013 at 6:34 PM

      Hope you both have a wonderful dinner. My hubby and I both just love lobster. I prefer main lobster and he prefers rock lobster. I’ve never heard of pappadeaux.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 27, 2013 at 6:57 PM

        It’s cajun seafood (momajackie will probably laugh at that comment). They started in New Orleans I believe and are in several western states. Hubby prefers the rock lobster too … I just love lobster (not a whole one — green ooze, ick). They are my go to place in Phoenix as we dn’t have a lot of seafood restaurants with quality seafood as we are a land locked state.

        • September 27, 2013 at 7:29 PM

          I’m with you on that mzjule. We usually go to red lobster when we want seafood. We are also in a land locked state. Actually you are not that far from us. Boulder City NV

    • bug
      September 27, 2013 at 6:50 PM

      I replied to the wrong person. I hope you and your husband have a lovely evening! Enjoy! We’re going out for our anniversary tomorrow. I wanted to pick the restaurant but my husband grabbed me by my hair, turned me around and told me he was picking the restaurant!
      I’m kidding, we equally agreed on a place to eat and then we’re going to a book store because I loooove to read!!! I’m avoiding the marriage relationship section!
      Sorry guys, I couldn’t resist!

      • mzjulesaz
        September 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM

        Happy Anniversary and enjoy!

      • September 27, 2013 at 7:06 PM

        Happy anniversary, bug. You made me laugh out loud when I read your post.

      • September 27, 2013 at 7:26 PM

        Happy Anniversary to both of you and enjoy your evening.

      • September 27, 2013 at 7:45 PM

        Thanks everyone and Happy Anniversary Bug! 😀

        • bug
          September 27, 2013 at 8:40 PM

          Thank you! Calypso and Gail! You both are so sweet!

    • September 27, 2013 at 7:25 PM

      Enjoy your dinner Jules.

  35. September 27, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    Inside Edition tonight, Melissa’s book, “Is she really advocating marital rape in her book?” Have to go and watch it now.

    • patriciafromco
      September 27, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      I missed the air time for my area,, the recap was being asked about TB saying when your wife saids no she means yes.. TSIL’s response was “She means Yes” Did read that some of the book signings had been canceled but could not find where and who…

    • September 27, 2013 at 7:59 PM

      Thanks for telling us, momma gonna go record it now.

  36. mktgdrivethru
    September 27, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Oh God, Just opened my copy of Newsday and see TSIL is appearing at the bookstore about 15 minutes from here. I would drive by just to see how it’s going, but she is not worth the gas. Something tells me it will be a big zero unless they are paying people to go stand in line.

  37. jennacheryl
    September 27, 2013 at 7:51 PM
    • September 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM

      I sure hope this is true. Never know about ROL

    • September 27, 2013 at 9:18 PM

      I hope so, I love Dina and her cats especially ladybug! ☺

  38. mktgdrivethru
    September 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Interesting development jennacheryl. So many twists and turns lately. Bravo knows that may be the only way the fans will come back. So many people are done with this show.

    What i think is funny is the radio silence about — and from — the Wakiles. Buh-bye.

  39. bug
    September 27, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    I read that on radar online. Something caught my attention about that article…If Dina came back it meant that TWO people left…Caroline AND Jacqueline! I’m sure its just rumor but boy it’s fun to dream!

    • September 27, 2013 at 8:18 PM

      I find Dina’s return so hard to believe. She got out and was very grateful for it. She has said it many times. Why would she go back and do something she found morally reprehensible? Plus I heard she had her own show in the works with a scripted part. RHONJ seems like a step down for her. Maybe they offered her over a million dollars. But, I have to think she got a pretty good divorce settlement from Tommy. I don’t know. But I would be very disappointed if Dina voluntarilly inserted herself into this lie of a show.

      • bug
        September 27, 2013 at 8:27 PM

        I agree with you gessiewtf. I can’t see Dina coming back to the show. I find it interesting was the comments she put out there about Danielle. Danielle just slammed 2 of Dina’s family members…Caroline and Jacqueline and it seemed to me Dina just about gave Danielle a hug for it. Just my opinion.

      • bug
        September 27, 2013 at 8:30 PM

        Did you read what Dina had to say about Danielle?

        • bug
          September 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

          Oops Kaywhims already covered this better than I did farther up in the posts 🙂 Sorry Kay. I didn’t see it.

          • kayswhims
            September 28, 2013 at 8:07 AM

            No apology necessary. I have been there myself a time or two. The way I look at it, we are of like mind here and it is bound to happen. 😀

        • September 27, 2013 at 11:50 PM

          Yup. Interesting. I think Teresa and Dina regretted the way the treated Danielle after having sometime to reflect on it and now knwing how the villain du jour is a set up.

          • bug
            September 28, 2013 at 12:48 AM

            I feel for both Teresa and Dina. They were both set up by family to be a villain. Jacqueline and Caroline have done nothing but hurt Dina no matter how much they deny it. Teresa has been betrayed by her family. I must say, I have felt the pain of Teresa and Dina also. The cut is much deeper when your own family holds the knife. 😦

            • kayswhims
              September 28, 2013 at 8:28 AM

              So true. I don’t think the people get it unless they have been cut with that knife. Some do not understand how Dina has no problem with Danielle, but she can not make ammends with Caroline. Now that I have cut toxic people out of my life and taken myself out of the equation in family gatherings, the toxic people have found new punching bags. I want the cycle to stop. A 17 year old and a 24 year old are in therapy thank God. They don’t know about me. Some of the young ones are asking questions about what is going on with our family.

            • September 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM

              ((((((((((((((BUGS IM SORRY FOR YOUR PAIN)))))))))))))))))

    • September 27, 2013 at 9:44 PM

      Bug, if this rumor turns out to be right and the rumor about Nicole and Teresa coming on the show, this would most likely back up the rumor that jac is gone, caroline is doing her spin off and Kathy being reduced to a friend. Time will what is true and what is not true.

  40. bug
    September 27, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    So today I gave into my impulses and watched some of Melissa and Joe’s interviews (I’m so ashamed). I watched a clip from Betty’s show. I couldn’t help but notice who was on the couch with our hot and happy Italian couple…TIKI FREAKY BARBER! Are you kidding me? Does anyone know who this guy is? Google him. He has said the C-WORD on tv and was let go because of it. He said some comment about Anne Frank that was not so nice. AND he left his PREGNANT WIFE for his current wife young blond on the couch next to him, which caused a huge outpouring of hate for him. I think because of that last move he is now struggling with money. And somehow Joe Gorga made Tiki Barber look like a dream boat. Unbelievable!

  41. September 27, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Perfect company for these two……………………………………….what a crew. Must be a hell of a show.

    • bug
      September 27, 2013 at 8:34 PM

      lol…don’t say that too loudly you’ll give Ms Andy ideas. Tiki Barber will be Season 6 new housewife. UGH!

  42. punkinseed
    September 27, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    I seriously doubt Dina is coming back to the RHONJ show. No way.
    Remember last pre season how the gossip was about Dina possibly coming back and then of Penny and someone else going on the show, then… the ugly blond real estate agent that told Tre the house needed a pool? Oh, and that Joe’s brother Pete’s wife was going to be on the show.. all didn’t happen.
    What makes ZERO sense to me is WHY Danielle went on WWHL! Now that might be an indication that Staub is going to make a comeback. Remember last pre season, she had a meeting with Andy at Bravo HQ in NYC and was interviewed afterwards on the street. We all thought, hmmm. Wonder what’s going on with that. What was that all about?
    Staub would definitely be able to bring the conflict and she’d have a great time settling scores and going after MeGo. Producers wouldn’t have to fabricate storylines anymore, that’s for sure.

    • September 28, 2013 at 12:03 AM


  43. Laram
    September 27, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Love you all, and read through most of comments, agree with most.

    All I can say is that they are all idiots, in truest sense of word and love drama! I can’t read anymore tonight. Lol.

    Was on another blog with three teenagers home sick today but can’t so much baby them as just check and feed them soup and crackers. These HW and Bravo burn me out! Lol, but I still read about them.

  44. chrissy401
    September 28, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Hi everyone, long time reader, 1st time poster and I just want to say that I feel like I know you all personally! I had to comment after reading me celi’s beautiful love story. It gives me hope!!

    • September 28, 2013 at 7:10 PM

      Welcome to the Fame-ily Chrissy!

    • September 28, 2013 at 7:28 PM

      Welcome chrissy. I found this wonderful site about 6 months ago. The people here are the most loving thoughtful and supportive group you will ever find on any blog.

    • September 28, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      thank you chrissy
      there is always hope. you are precious in HIS SIGHT
      welcome here and keep posting

  45. September 28, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    First, I’d like to thank everyone for their warm sentiments on my last post. This group is honestly such a wonderful bunch of people, and I’m so glad I happened upon you all. Alright, this is a bit off subject here, but in light of her horrific controversy right now, I actually wanted to bring up a point that occurred to me today. When I posted my own two cents on Mego’s Amazon review, on a hunch I browsed the reviews of other housewives. A couple of things became very clear to me: first, it MUST be a part of their contracts to either write a book, or peddle some sort merchandise, and second, NONE of the other women seemed to have had an editor either! Brandi and Lisa have had the most success (aside from Teresa’s cookbooks), but that’s likely because they have a bit more going on in the intelligence department. I wondered how on earth it could be possible that none of them had benefit of an editor, but of course the answer is crystal clear – if they did, they wouldn’t embarrass themselves, and in doing so, make even MORE money for the Bravo machine. It doesn’t matter to them if these ladies write a literary masterpiece, or, like Melissa, fall horribly on their embarrassed faces. Either way, Bravo will STILL make a profit, and actually INCREASE their viewer base. However, I have a feeling it will backfire on them this time. I believe they may have actually gone too far for their own good, and with all the other legal problems and controversies, may have finally succeeded in bringing about their own demise – or at least be forced to do some restructuring. We’ll see though, perhaps I’m just having a bit of wishful thinking. One can hope though.

    • September 28, 2013 at 11:08 AM

      Brandi is probably the most illiterate of all of the housewives, but she has a scathing sense of humor and was dishing the dirt on her marriage to Eddie Cibrian and subsequent divorce which has been big news in the tabloids for years. I can understand the popularity of her book for those reasons. She also did not delve truthfully into her life, she glosses over her modeling career in Europe and her life before she met Eddie so nobody knows much about her aside from what she had already released to the public. Teresa’s books were the most successful because they had actual content. I’d like to ask this question: How in the world are Joey Gorga and and the Laurita’s shitty lawyers in any position to offer JTG a waiver on his contract so they they can proceed with a civil suit? We cannot presume with out any evidence that Bravo’s attorneys got involved with their attorneys and made an offer to JTG that he was let out of his contract in which he agrees to never speak of what really happened on the show, since he did so already when he filed the charges in the first place, thus violating his contract. I am very confused by this. How come Jan has freely spoken about the truth about what happened during her filming and Penney can not? Is it because Penny is hoping to grab a spot on the show next year? Wishful thinking Penny. I don’t believe that you were forced to redact your “blog” by anybody. I think you did it in hopes of staying chummy with Bravo nesflash: your usefulness to Bravo is over. Whatever it is you thought you were going to bring karma wise to Bravo has backfired. You have been played. Bravo has NBC behind it which is owned by General Electric. They had you outsmarted from day one.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 28, 2013 at 11:53 AM

        Bravo/Sirens attorneys would be the only ones with the ability to offer waiver of the contract terms. Nobody else would have that authority. What they get out of it, because they didn’t offer this just because they felt benevolent, remains to be seen. My guess and it is only a guess, is that there is some damaging criminal evidence against B/S and they knew they would have trouble proving otherwise.

        • September 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM

          So it would seem that a financial settlement which is probably confidential is already in play. One would think then, that JTG would have to shut his mouth?

      • Randie
        September 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM

        I agree with you 100% Gess. IMO, Penny implying she is or was Team Teresa was a lie from the get go. IMO, Penny and JTG are team no one but themselves.
        There is a twitter account out there called 15MinsofGreek dedicated to exposing all the Tre bashing tweets by JTG, Penny and their associates. They are in black in white and can not be denied… Check it out! It’s very interesting. Anyone who believes the Greeks didn’t turn on Teresa should look for themselves.
        Thanks Fame for all you do!
        Team Teresa!

        • September 28, 2013 at 3:21 PM

          I’m gonna check it out right now.

        • September 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM

          It’s not coming up in a google search.

          • GPM
            September 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM

            Was anybody ever able to find this Twitter account? I haven’t been able to locate it on Google, either.

            • Anonymous
              September 30, 2013 at 3:12 AM

              Go to tweeter and in the search paste : 15MinsofGreek.
              I just found it.
              Hello Fame and everybody. I am very happy that everybody seems ok

        • September 28, 2013 at 3:34 PM

          Thanks Randie! The Greeks are shady they seem to shift with the wind.

          • Laram
            September 28, 2013 at 4:00 PM

            Yes, they are very shady!

  46. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 28, 2013 at 4:40 AM

    Dina and Teresa would be GREAT!

  47. Kali
    September 28, 2013 at 5:59 AM

    I’m posting before reading the other posts, so if already stated, well, I agree, LOL 🙂 but all I have to say about this BS are these two things.

    First, ever since the fight referred to here, I always figured these two were approached by bravo et al asking them “How much? How much $ or fame will it take to shut this down?” And the G’s bit.

    Second, the guy next to TB is actually 5’1″.

    • elemcee
      September 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM


  48. cass
    September 28, 2013 at 8:06 AM
    • Laram
      September 28, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      Excellent review, thanks!

  49. September 28, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Hey everyone – I have no internet so I have to be brief (hopefully it will be back by tonight- tomorrow the latest).

    What Saddle and Momajackie said are more than likely what is going on. B/S had to have been afraid of criminal charges going through as the prosecutor may have had a stronger case. A civil case is easier. Keep in mind also just because it says that contract terms were waivered, that does NOT mean the entire contract was waivered; a possibility but not necessarilty so. Only certiain terms could have been waivered and they could still be on a gag order. It is possible only the terms for filing a lawsuit was waivered. There could be alot more to this story and the terms of agreement we don’t know about. Without having insider’s info and all the connections between B/S, their attorneys and all of the parties and their attorneys involved, it is all speculation. We will just have to wait and see how this all plays out.

    GESSIE – about the prenatals – your daughter’s doctor may have advised her to go on them if she is trying to get pregnant. My daughter’s doctor did that with all three of her pregnancies.

    CELI – much love to you and prayers, as always, for your entire family. I admire you so. As someone said upthread, you are the epitimoe of what a woman, a wife, and a mother should be. Your strength, courage and love for your family is admirable.

    TO EVERYONE – so much love for all of you. I would I could respond to some many of the comments upthread. I just LOVE my Fame-ily!!!! Now off to the soccer and football fields for the day!!


    • September 28, 2013 at 11:11 AM

      Hi Jeannie! Could it be that Johnny actually is thinking of blowing the roof off of Bravo and the RH’s? Many posters have said that the REAL story is much more interesting than the scripted Bravo version-maybe he got released from that ridiculous contract so that he could tell the TRUTH.
      I don’t think he would get much cash from a civil suit anyway, but telling the truth about Bravo (and the Gorgas and Wakiles) might be satisfying enough. I only “know” Johnny from twitter, but he certainly seems like a decent guy to me. I don’t think he realized the depth of Bravo’s depravity when he got involved, and assumed that no one could make him act in a way that he knew he wouldn’t. I’m sure he knows now that editing is magic, and the truth isn’t always shown-plus, dealing with liars and thieves (cough cough Gorgas and Wakiles) who are willing to say ANYTHING for a buck clouds the truth even further.
      *I don’t watch anymore and haven’t for a long while so my take could be completely wrong, but I am holding out hope that Johnny the Greek is the man who will finally call Andy out on all the shenanigans. I don’t really think he would want to be a part of the HW franchise after all of this anyway.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 28, 2013 at 11:56 AM

        At this point, without knowing all the details, anything is a possibility! It would be awesome if the Greeks were whistleblowers on bravo. Couldn’t happen to a better network. Sick of the crap shows they air and call “entertainment”. 😉

        • September 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM

          That would be great, but again, not holding breath. So would $400,000. to stfu.

      • punkinseed
        September 28, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        Great points, but I think the reality is more about the reality that any network and its heads of programming don’t give a rip about any of the so called, “talent” or anything else, whether it be storylines, “stars” facts, fiction, NOTHING BUT Ratings and will do anything to get their ratings and profits to benefit their bottom line.
        Naturally, we as humans and of course, viewers, don’t see it all the same way as the network heads who truly DO NOT CARE what makes their ratings and profits high. We become emotionally involved and as long as we are manipulated by the players and producers, we are being played.
        Remember the show, Beggars and Choosers? If not, it is a great show that gives pretty good insight into the networks and how they determine what will get them ratings and what won’t.
        For example, a drugged out addict rehab retread is not probably as bankable a talent as an actor who isn’t.
        Bravo crunched their numbers and decided putting the Manzos on their own show will get them tons of ratings in a short enough time to get Profit$. After the ratings drop, no more Manzo.
        And as much as some folks hate on Melissa and her stupid husband, or the Guidice and all their legal woes, Bravo doesn’t care what the idiot talent does or says as long as whatever they do pays and pays well.
        So, what can viewers do to stop the exploitation of their own emotions and for the sake of the little kids on these shows? Nothing much unless you simply boycott their sponsors and stop watching their disgusting shows.

        • September 28, 2013 at 3:32 PM

          I completely agree punkinseed. I stopped watching all reality tv and Bravo, but I can’t quit the blogs lol…
          I’ve never heard of Beggars and Choosers, but I will be googling!

        • Sharon
          September 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM

          We can Block the Bravo channel. At least it won’t upset us anymore.

      • Sharon
        September 28, 2013 at 7:48 PM

        Wonder if he could go after the nasty posters on Facebook for slander? Not to mention anywhere Comments/Replies are used on gossip sites, rags, and newspapers, etc. A New Jersey blog said really bad stuff and they need Schooled. IMO.

    • Laram
      September 28, 2013 at 4:09 PM

      @Jeannie, Have fun on the fields today with your g-babies!!

    • September 28, 2013 at 6:12 PM

      May the boys bring home victories. Enjoy your day.

  50. kayswhims
    September 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Shockvertising has been the new way to compete for attention. What worked as shock 20 years ago, has to step up somehow on the social media highway. They need to deliberately startle and offend the audience to break out ahead of the pack fast. Punk-vertising is trending. If anyone is offended ah it’s okay it’s just a joke.


  51. September 28, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Hello-hope you all are well today! I still think the 2 Kims are both in this ‘fake’ drama-very deep.

  52. punkinseed
    September 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    sure they are. Grannytell is buddies with Monica, the wife of Juicy’s former partner’s lawyer. And, she’s sister in law to KimD. KimD is getting a paycheck and perks to keep her biz going. They are both getting something for it.
    Beggars & Choosers. The Choosers are peeps like Adnoid Cohen and Bravo bigwigs producers. The Beggars are the cast members all vying to be the one who makes the most ratings to get bigger air time and leverage. Major beggars at bottom of the rungs? MeGo and Kathy. Not even on the rungs? MeGo’s sisters, Penny and that cat face creepy voice Jen.

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