John and Penny Drossos-Karagiorgis Were Ambushed by RHONJ Production and Cast at Posche 2; JohnnyTheGrk Never Tweeted About the Lauritas’ Son Nicholas; Melissa Gorga Lip Syncs at XL106.7

September 21, 2013

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“Finally, you get to meet my music manager Johnny Wright! I have to admit, my nerves got the better of me when I was singing ‘Never Let Me Go’ in my studio for Johnny and Justin Thorne, the songwriter and producer. Johnny is the real deal. He’s worked with Britney, ‘N Sync, Justin Timberlake, Akon, and The Jonas Brothers. I really wanted to impress him. The fact that he’s interested in me at all was so exciting — and terrifying. I had a lot riding on that recording session. It got better once I got over my nerves, trust me, or he would have walked out and never looked back. When Johnny suggested my going to Orlando for vocal coaching, I was all for it. I’d never had any formal training and have just used what I’ve got. I’ll take any expert advice I can get! My attitude is, I’m grateful for every minute of Johnny’s guidance. I’m happy to learn and ready to go! Thanks, Johnny and Justin, for your faith in me.” – Melissa Gorga, Penny’s Not a Reliable Source, September 16, 2013

Although FW will no longer be giving scoops or doing research on the Housewives, the blog is still a forum for you to discuss their shenanigans and the fakeness of the show and other things of interest. Once the season is over, FW will be covering new topics – I’m open to suggestions, so please don’t hesitate to let me know what you’re thinking! Until then, the following is a preview for episode 17 (the full episode should be comical since you get to hear Melissa sing a few notes live, with Joe admitting she doesn’t have the best voice)...

If you plan to amuse yourself by watching the remaining two episodes (and the season 5 reunion special, which premieres on October 6th – RumorFix reported that the 15-hour production was so boring that serious consideration is now underway as to who will return and who will NOT be invited back in season 6), remember that footage is shown out of sequence and most of it is fake (except the ambush on Penny Drossos-Karagiorgis and her husband John – everyone was in on that but them):

1. The Posche 2 grand opening at Moxie Salon was on March 30, 2013 (this is when Jacqueline and Caroline confront Penny, and then later Joe Gorga and the Lauritas assault Penny’s husband John).

2. Melissa and Joe went to Johnny Wright’s “compound” in Orlando, Florida on June 28, 2013, and this is also when Melissa sang live without autotune at XL106.7 (FW was the the first to report this on August 27, 2013) but all copies of her live performance have been removed from the internet since the video proves she can’t sing.

3. Melissa’s and Joe’s testimonials (THs) seen in the screen shots below were taped in July 2013, when Bravo decided they needed more scripted interviews for the revised ending to season 5.

UPDATE 11:00 PM EST: Commentary after watching season 5 episode 17.

Well, now we know why producers didn’t show the December 3, 2012 footage with Penny, Kim D and Teresa where she takes the phone call from Mike about Melissa cheating in the Sushi Lounge parking lot the summer of 2009.

It’s because they couldn’t ambush the Greeks if they had shown that, especially when it actually occurred, at the very beginning of season 5. It would explain that Teresa does indeed know Penny.

Teresa is an idiot for denying that she knows the Greeks. JohnnyTheGrk gave her a donation when she was raising money during her stint on the Celebrity Apprentice and he got her a gig at a family member’s business, which explains text messages between them.

And, MOST IMPORTANTLY, the Greeks and Teresa all met at the season 4 Posche Fashion Show on September 27, 2011 (the season finale), if not earlier.


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All of this is really no big deal, since producers are the ones behind it all, but it becomes a big deal because Teresa denies any involvement.

It’s all so ridiculous and a repeat of the season 4 finale, but this time it’s about cheating vs. stripping, and this time Bravo made sure the entire cast set out to takedown the Greeks.

This is the MO of RHONJ – the cast always has to be ganging up on somebody (seasons 1 & 2 it was Danielle, seasons 3 & 4 it was Teresa; and season 5 it’s the Greeks)! And this is why I hate this show – nothing but lies and deception and always a target for their fury when it should be directed at themselves for being low-down, dirty, rotten famewhores! Have some integrity people!

Caroline isn’t enraged because the Greeks “came between a family,” and she knows the Greeks didn’t say anything about the Lauritas or Manzos (at that time) – she’s trying to discredit the Greeks because she knows they can spill the tea on Al Manzo’s long-term affair with Jill (which Penny mentioned when Caroline got in her face at the Posche 2 grand opening in the Moxie Salon, but Caroline ranted and raved until the producers agreed to edit it out). And they all think the Greeks are behind Fame-Whorgas, but nobody other than me is behind this blog!

They are blaming the Greeks for the blogs about the Lauritas exploiting autism – NEWSFLASH! – they had nothing to do with it! And Chris and Jacqueline know the Greeks never said anything about Nicholas not being autistic, which is why Jacqueline had to get drunk before approaching Penny with that big ole lie (fed to her by production and reinforced by Caroline because she needs to shutup Penny to keep her secrets hidden).

If JohnnyTheGrk had tweeted about Nicholas, Bravo would have shown the tweet.

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They all are pretending they don’t know Penny (notice how Penny was smiling when Jacqueline approached and that Penny addressed her by name). Caroline and Jacqueline called Penny when they were in Arizona a week before the Posche 2 event, trying their hardest to upset Penny by telling her that Teresa was saying hurtful things about her. And the week before that, Joe Gorga and Rich Wakile met with Penny’s husband John to convince him that if Penny agreed to say Teresa put her up to revealing Melissa as a cheater, she could be on RHONJ next season. Just a few weeks before all of this, the Gorgas met with Penny at Chakra (a meeting arranged and filmed by production) to tell her that Teresa was calling her a stalker and telling everyone that she didn’t like her at all.

But psychological manipulation didn’t work on Penny, so they had to come up with a new plan.

The new plan was to convince Penny that they had all made up. The Wakiles were put in charge of hoodwinking the Greeks into believing this new plan, so they called Penny the night before the Posche 2 event, telling her that because Teresa told her to squash the rumors, they had all made up, and the cast wanted the Greeks to celebrate with them by coming to the event. Producers also called the Greeks numerous times to make sure they were coming.

When the Greeks got to the event, producers made Penny go into the party right away, but told her husband John that he had to wait outside with their friends until Penny was done (without further explanation). Of course, the reason he was made to wait outside was because the cast was inside ambushing Penny. When they were done with Penny, production brought in John, who was immediately confronted by Joe Gorga. Joe charged at John and started throwing punches, and Chris Laurita jumped in, throwing punches as well, all while John was being held back by security. Then Jacqueline stood on a chair, took off her stiletto-heeled shoe, and began to hit John in the head with it.

And that, my friends, is premeditated assault.

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Bryan ‏@bulldog_nj
@JohnnyTheGrk in the end truth will prevail n apologies will be given. 🙂 just know its always messy when fighting with the devil.
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis
9:43 PM – 22 Sep 13

Tracie Marie ‏@TracieMariBella
@Bravotv you were showing all of @JohnnyTheGrk other tweets where we’re the alleged ones of him attacking Nicks “fake autism” shame on you!
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis
9:28 PM – 22 Sep 13

Ex-Best Friend ‏@exxbestfriend
Where are @JohnnyTheGrk’s tweets about Nicholas @Bravotv? You had no problem showing other tweets on camera. #RHONJ #DidntHappen
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

Nik ‏@IsleofJen
@JohnnyTheGrk never saw any tweet from you about kids or the Lauritas…
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis
8:55 PM – 22 Sep 13

CheyLuvsRosie ‏@CheyNOnlyChey
Never saw @JohnnyTheGrk say Lauritas were faking Autism But IMO it looks sketchy that Autism connection has helped promote BLK
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityE
So why did @RichardWakile & @KathyWakile spend an hour and half on phone with @JohnnyTheGrk & @PDKhair night before this party #RHONJ
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

Krystle Sonia ‏@Krystle_Light
@Bravotv @Andy RT @FauxRealityE: So why did Siren make @JohnnyTheGrk wait outside for over an hour? #RHONJ
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

TamaraTattles ‏@TamaraTattles
These people testified @JohnnyTheGrk was asked not to come? But they all talked about him coming on their way there?
9:09 PM – 22 Sep 13

John Karagiorgis ‏@JohnnyTheGrk
I will not lose my temper on Bullshit Lies!!! But you will all answer for these Bullshit accusations
8:40 PM – 22 Sep 13

PDK Fan ‏@KaragiorgisFan
@JohnnyTheGrk @PDKhair funny how those who accuse you of hiding behind a computer are the ones who hide behind bravo. Love ya guys!!
Retweeted by John Karagiorgis

Bryan ‏@bulldog_nj
@JohnnyTheGrk this guy would never make fun of an autism child but the Marcos make fun of me having a brain tumor. Where’s that?????

OldNJGirl ‏@OldNJlady
@kitbrown @AArater @melissagorga @Teresa_Giudice it is hard for anyone to watch this piece of crap show of lies and scripted nonsense
10:11 PM – 22 Sep 13

Arater & Melissa

Anthony Arater ‏@AArater
@AArater just a quick picture of @melissagorga N I… The Ex BF she Dsnt want u to know about, she is tryin so hard but it’s comin out soon
9:52 PM – 22 Sep 13

Vicky Soltero ‏@vickysoltero
@AArater – when are we going to hear your story ??
9:53 PM – 22 Sep 13

Anthony Arater ‏@AArater
@vickysoltero I already signed the contract, it’s on them fighting with @melissagorgas lawyers tryin to stop it
9:54 PM – 22 Sep 13

Anthony Arater ‏@AArater
@jeannie165V I have so many more!! Lol.. That’s me her n her cousin!! Lol… Wait til u read the letters!!!

Anthony Arater ‏@AArater
@JenGotClassNass hahahaha… She did a lot more then kiss!!!

Anthony Arater ‏@AArater
@kitbrown @melissagorga I wish I Cld write it to ppl right now!!!! I watch that show N just laugh!! She is so fake!

Anthony Arater ‏@AArater
@ar51305 theses ppl r so corny like I give a shit about 15 mins! She did what she did N that’s it!!
10:35 PM – 22 Sep 13

Anthony Arater ‏@AArater
@kitbrown @melissagorga that’s why I respect Theresa so much!! She see’s thru her!! Jus protecting her bro frm a pig
9:58 PM – 22 Sep 13

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  1. mzjulesaz
    September 21, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Love you Fame 🙂

    • Jeannie5233
      September 22, 2013 at 3:21 AM

      Hey jules – “I second that emotion”!!!!! 😀

      • Anonymous
        September 22, 2013 at 7:34 AM

        Lots of love for you here too Fame but I know exactly where you’re coming from! I NEVER thought I’d stop watching but it’s been five episodes and I’m still RHONJ-Free… I feel like I should get a pin 😛

      • September 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM

        We are indeed a family because of Fame. While drinking my coffee and going through the comments this morning, I proudly announced to my husband that Bug had scored 7 of 9 goals at his soccer game. I also stated that Bean made scores for his football team and his soccer game would be played today.

        Good luck from both of us to Bean and his team. Hope your family has a wonderful weekend.

        • Jeannie5233
          September 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM

          Thanks moma!!! Game time 3:45 and I will be on the sidelines rooting him on!!! The fields are soaked from the rain we got yesterday but by this afternoon, it should be dry enough = the sun is out and it is a gorgeous day!!

    • MonkeyFighting
      September 22, 2013 at 9:10 AM

      Cosign w MsJules!!
      Fame we totally appreciate all that you have done! Much respect! Hope all is well!
      Huge TY!!!

    • Anonymous
      September 22, 2013 at 8:58 PM

      I can not take it any more… I have to sleep on this… I am glad you are ok Fame, I was looking for you every where. I was like a fish out of water…for the last days..l

  2. jennacheryl
    September 22, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Missed you Fame. I hope you are ok

  3. Enga
    September 22, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    I dont know if I will watch or not. I sooo tired of the fakeness of it all. I pretty much know whats going to happen, every truth will be cut out, dismatled, edited, reconstucted into this fake ass facade they call RHWONJ. I cant wait for it to be over. I know the reunion is going to be boring because Teresa’s lawyer was there and they couldnt trip her up and attack her like they usually do. She did say she was happy with the end result. But I know Andy, he probably tried everything in his power to rattle her. I bet they all were shooting daggers at her with their eyes, especially ole Caroline and Melissa. I can see the cameras now panning the room at their expressions after each question he asks her. Sourpuss and Drucilla with their faces all balled up. LMAO! AAAAHHHHH, that was a nice visual. I was reading some of the ideas that posters came up with for the site and they sound nice. Cant wait to see what you come up with.

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 1:01 AM

      TSIL says the reunion will be what the viewers want. Like she has a clue what we want? I’m sure it’s tame with some rough patches, but I wouldn’t say boring more like fake again.

      • Happy Holly Daze
        September 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM

        So, what I want is TB to strangle TSIL, and confess to his sister that he is terribly sorry for following his wife, and inlaws…… THEN I would LOVE for Andy to tell the whole cast, YOUR FIRED

        • mzjulesaz
          September 22, 2013 at 1:48 AM

          LOL … I love it!

        • mzjulesaz
          September 22, 2013 at 2:01 AM

          LOL … nice ending but won’t happen 😦

        • September 22, 2013 at 9:22 AM

          I wuld like Andy to do the noble thing and fire himself.

          • September 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM

            Your lone liners always make me laugh.

            • September 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM

              That was “one”, my typing has really been bad lately.

              • tboz17586
                September 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM

                I STILL vote for the lie detector tests to be administered and then sack them all!

                • LaraM
                  September 22, 2013 at 9:04 PM

                  Yep!

        • xjrsygrl7733
          September 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM

          Anyone else hear that Gretchen Rossi & Alexis Bellino were fired & wont be filming for the next season. Saw it on Radar. Maybe they will do the same to RHONJ also! God, I hope so!

          • NCGal
            September 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM

            I won’t miss Gretchen – I started liking Alexis this season. She was staying out of the fray (missing Tamra’s trip to Mexico etc). That’s probably what got her canned – if so, I say Good for her.

            Whatever will camera hungry Slade do?

            • Happy Holly Daze
              September 22, 2013 at 1:15 PM

              Slade is going to *come onto* Brianna, whilest her hubby is gone… While Gretchen is at work.. HE will be back…. or maybe he is going to ask Tamras oldest daughter out on a date….

              • pjbottoms
                September 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM

                Just imagine the possibilities of Ryan whooping Slade!

          • Miss Alicat
            September 22, 2013 at 5:35 PM

            That story made HuffPost too, so it might be true. While Gretchen might be gone, I’m sure Slade SLIMEY will find a way to weasel his way back on to the show. That man is more of a fame-whore than anyone else on ANY of the franchises, TB & TSIL included, IMO.

        • meri4911
          September 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM

          Exactly, what the fans want is for all these ugly cast mates to apologize to Teresa for stabbing her in the back, plotting to destroy her family and her finances, and making her the fall guy for everything wrong in the world. But we all know that is not going to happen.

          TSIL probably thinks that the fans want everyone to kiss and make-up, but without them taking any responsibility for their horrendous actions it is all meaningless.

          Firing Andy would be a nice ending! 🙂

      • My6girls2012
        September 22, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        So, TSIL is leaving the show?

        • mzjulesaz
          September 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM

          I just snorted, that is too funny!

      • September 22, 2013 at 6:52 PM

        msjules im so glad meho fiannaly gets what we want ,her,jogo,catfish,jacass,n carowine off the show. we are tickled pink they are leaving .hehehe yes that’s what we want.

      • aaacccp
        September 22, 2013 at 7:48 PM

        Does that mean Melissa won’t be there??? Because we would really like it if Melissa and Caroline and Jac and Kathy were not there!

    • jennacheryl
      September 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM

      I am truly done with this show after this season. Can’t stomach it anymore.

  4. mzjulesaz
    September 22, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    Watching Walk the Line tonight and I have to applaud Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon for doing their own vocals — they are amazing!

    • Calypso
      September 22, 2013 at 3:10 AM

      You’re right they are amazing, another great was Sissy Spacek in Coal Miner’s Daughter.
      My son and I just finished The Godfather. It was supposed to be an all night Godfather movie marathon but he gave up after the first one (3hrs).

      • Jeannie5233
        September 22, 2013 at 3:29 AM

        Just wanted to say Hi Calypso – love your baby – a St. Bernard? I am so glad to see you!!!

        • Calypso
          September 22, 2013 at 3:41 AM

          Hi Jeanie, it’s good to see you too! Yes, she’s a St. Bernard.

        • meri4911
          September 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM

          Love your doggie too! Going to try to change my pic to my baby sharpeis! They brighten even the gloomiest of days.. As I’m sure your St. Bernard does.😄 Unconditional love is the best!

          • meri4911
            September 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM

            Well I did it but they are sideways lol whoops

            • September 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM

              Oh, how cute they are!!! I love their little worried faces!!!

            • September 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM

              Meri, they are adorable! My son fixed my Gravatar issues so my hover card will enlarge and I’ll post a picture of both my girls. If my picture changes – Jackie is a rescue, they said she was St. Bernard but I think she has a little Pyranees in her if not a lot.

              • September 22, 2013 at 7:55 PM

                Well, it didn’t change but it added it to the profile.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 22, 2013 at 3:12 PM

        I agree Calypso and think Sissy was actually better Loretta Lynn. I also thought Beverly D’Angelo did an awesome as Patsy Cline. I was shocked when I found out they both did their own vocals.

        • corky21
          September 22, 2013 at 6:52 PM

          I don’t know if many people know this about Sissy Spacek, but a women who I worked for as a nanny way, way back in early 70’s lived in the same walk up as Sissy in NYC. She said that Sissy used to sit on the stoop with her guitar and sing all the time. She said she was very good too. Now she told me this in 1974 way before Coal Miner’s Daughter, so I when I went to the movie I knew it would be her singing and not dubbed. She was fantastic!

          • mzjulesaz
            September 22, 2013 at 7:21 PM

            Wow, I did not know that. Thanks for sharing.

            • September 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM

              Love that movie and Sissy. That girl has a beautiful voce.

  5. yup
    September 22, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    so…fame is posting again? I’m so confused about what’s going on between faux/SH/fame dealing with something behind the scenes but it’s clear fame doesn’t want us to talk about that here. so can someone tell me which blog i should go to where people *are* talking about this? it’s all a little strange to me but I don’t want to discuss it here out of respect to fame. and I know all of us commenters seem to frequent the same few blogs.

    • Miami53
      September 22, 2013 at 8:32 AM

      I’m a little confused too. If they are all reporting the truth…what is the problem. The only issue I have is if the “sources” that told them the info about the players in this long saga are not telling the truth…then I would have to apologized to the cast of RHONJ.

      • Bullie
        September 22, 2013 at 8:58 AM

        I don’t think this applies to Fame, but I think the issue some bloggers had was getting info from people under contract to not give out said information. Also, the using of Bravo/cast member materials without consent, which normally isn’t an issue unless someone is trying to eff with your program. When I saw the blacking out of info from other sites, I was astonished how low these reality people were willing to go. I haven’t watched Bravo for a month, including shows I actually enjoy, like Million Dollar Listing. I just can’t support what is going on over there. It has nothing to do with Teresa & everything to do with my intelligence. I will not be insulted.

        • pinkie
          September 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

          it is censorship, another example of the evil that is Bravo.

        • September 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM

          Me2, havent watched ANY show on Bravo since this censorship here. Outragous!! 5th Amndmnt?
          What if MeMe & SloJo not only destroyed Tre (& family), but in the process destroys the franchise?
          I gotta a feeling after reading many replies, ppl r DONE bein LIED2 & scammed by them. .
          My utmost respect 2U Fame! Welcome back!

          • Scorpion1
            September 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM

            It’s a darn shame what Bravo has come to. Bravo had always been one of my favorite networks but they have gone way too far. It would serve them right to loose the housewives franchise, they did it to their selves the way they brought Melissa and Joe on the show behind Teresa’s back was low down and shady. The way Andy picks his favs and has no regard for these people is just wrong. I know they choose to do the show but seems like Bravo makes it hard for them to redeem their selves. And it makes me sick to my stomach when I see scenes like last night where you know darn well Kathy couldn’t stand Melissa’s singing but sits back and says how great Melissa’s voice is. Hello we heard it too, we all know Melissa can’t sing but the cast will stick to the script Bravo wants to portray. DONE WITH BRAVO!!!

      • Miami53
        September 22, 2013 at 9:20 AM

        Fame, I truly appreciate the time you put in doing this blog. I have to be honest it was the first thing I would look forward to read morning, noon or night. So thank you…I just hope your were not had.

        • Miami53
          September 22, 2013 at 9:21 AM

          “you” sorry for typo

        • cass
          September 22, 2013 at 9:39 AM

          Ditto on that Miai53….I have no idea what is going on but if this blog is going away I will really miss it 😦

          • cass
            September 22, 2013 at 9:40 AM

            sorry meant *Miami53 🙂

    • Honnie Badger
      September 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM

      Uh, no. “Faux” is totally biased towards Teresa. You cannot find truth there. Sorry. She spins her crap so much until it turns into a shitnado.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 22, 2013 at 6:20 PM

        Please remember that Fame asked we not specifically name other bloggers in a negative fashion.

        For me personally with this mess called the Housewives, I don’t think they even know what the truth is anymore.

        • corky21
          September 22, 2013 at 6:54 PM

          so what happened. For a few days the this blog was closed. I come here every day, I love this blog.

        • Honnie Badger
          September 23, 2013 at 9:18 AM

          Uh, ok. Sorry I did not mean to offend the FW police. I believe that FW herself should have reminded me. So my apologies to the blog owner for my “faux pas.”

          • September 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

            Honnie, mzjules was just looking out for me. She is right, I would prefer that we not discuss other bloggers here at FW.

          • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
            September 23, 2013 at 9:11 PM

            There are no “police” here…we look out for each other. It’s what has kept this forum civil when others start racing to the bottom. MsJulez did you a favor…I hope you reconsider that harsh response. 😦

    • Laram
      September 23, 2013 at 2:21 AM

      I’m sorry you didn’t get the answer yet. Fame is keeping her blog open for our community. She is not going to be posting in Bravo HW. We can, but most of us are burned out, as is Fame.

      This will hopefully be a site to talk about (write and blog about) other topics. Stay connected.

      • corky21
        September 23, 2013 at 6:26 AM

        I know, I’m so done with NJHW too, it’s so fake. I’m also not an ANdy fan any longer either.

      • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
        September 23, 2013 at 9:14 PM

        Yes, it’s gotten old IMO, more from the fact that it just seems to be so repetitive and fake to the point that we aren’t doing anything productive with the info anymore. We have plain proof that Melissa is a FW and I think that going any further we’d just be beating a dead horse. Even if it’s a legal issue going on, which wouldn’t surprise me, I’ve noticed the forum turning much more personal, and it really is like a family moreso than a comment board, if that makes sense. So I think that in the name of the community that Fame has built, it makes sense to continue, but in a way that we can continue to serve each other positively.

        Fame has done an amazing amazing amazing job of archiving, researching, watching, moderating, and then some. I can only hope that what we post around here makes it worth her time…I’m sure she gets a lot of grief from folks that we never see.

        • tenbit
          September 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

          I agree. I’ve only commented a couple times here, but have read it a long time. I appreciate Fame and all of the Fame community for keeping discussions civilized. I became more of a reader because I was tired of snarky responses everytime I commented elsewhere. It is refreshing and I’m so glad to see it back! Thank you Fame! You have earned my respect and what ever you decide to write about I will respect back. =)

  6. chupacabra
    September 22, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    nope, not watching. im done, over it. i hate the ridiculous characters. they no longer entertain me, but annoy me. and the addition of TSIL and her vile creepy little husband has completely turned me off the show. do not blame you fame, it’s no longer worth even talking about. interested in what you will turn this blog into. what are your interests?

  7. Enga
    September 22, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Mz Julesaz, I meant boring because it didnt go the way they wanted it to go. But hey, she probably got to sit next to Andy this time so kudos for her, haaa ha ha with her fake self. Happy Holly Daze, I so wish that would happen it would make my day.

  8. September 22, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    Does anyone know if “bittersweet”, on the Bravo blog, comments on here?

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      I don’t know, but she’s active on the Bravo blogs for sure.

  9. LifeIsGood
    September 22, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Hi Fame,

    Glad to hear you’re not hanging up the keyboard! There are subjects other than RHONJ that are far worthier of your talents. I’ll stay tuned.

  10. September 22, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    My heart gives a little hop of happiness with every new post.

    Thanks Fame!!

    • Happy Holly Daze
      September 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      Mine too Shi…

    • September 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      Me, too.

      • Goozy Girl
        September 22, 2013 at 10:12 PM

        Me three 😉

    • embee
      September 22, 2013 at 7:53 PM

      I agree. I check this blog every day. I was worried for you, Fame, when the blog went private. Hope all is well with you. Thank you for the information you brought to the table. I was desperate for answers during S3 and I found your blog on the blog roll of another site. I read everything start to finish and have been a daily reader since. I look forward to blogs on any subject you care to discuss.

  11. kayswhims
    September 22, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Fame, there are so many creative, observant, and compassionate people here. When I first came here I thought wow these peeps could solve cold cases, their skills are amazing. Sorting through lies to find truth is something this site is good at. Fraud seems to be what is abundant. We could narrow it down to something we are passionate about which is things that threaten to destroy families.

    • mktgdrivethru
      September 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM

      I love this idea. We’d be better than Web Sleuths, I have no doubt.

  12. Debbie J
    September 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Good Morning All!! Fame I so respect your decisions with this blog the HW franchise has gotten out of hand and way too predictable.

    With all of the issues going on with the world these days who needs fake drama.

    Not real sure what topics that we could discuss I just love coming on here to read about how everyone is doing and what is going on in their lives. Many times I have posted what was going on in my life and had such wonderful words of encouragement and support that this site really felt like a family.

    Anyways Fame I know you will find interesting topics for us to discuss.

    Thank you for coming back, your the best!!

  13. September 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Well, all i know is i missed you Fame. I’m very confused with whats going on. I for one am glad this shindig of NJ is just about over. No need to watch Bravo anymore. Hey. I remember when i fist came upon this site i said i thought all the subhumans where scared of you and in my mind i was right… I’d say their JEALOUS much. I’ll always come here to read because you and your commenters make me laugh, not including all the facts i found on here. Even if the big wigs say its not true. I believe every thing you wrote! Xoxoxo best wishes for you!!

  14. Jeannie5233
    September 22, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Just another example of a reality show not doing diligence – not getting permits – and leaving a huge mess behind for someone else to clean up:

    “The Spike TV reality show “Bar Rescue” fixed up Elizabeth Cipriano’s bar, including a new kitchen and renaming it “Handlebar and Grill.” Now Stonington, Connecticut is citing Cipriano for zoning violations.”

    http://on.aol.com/video/bar-renovating-reality-show-violates-ordinances-517939859?hp=1&playlist=127173&icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D378096

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 3:07 PM

      That’s just plain ignorance on part of production. I remember hearing some horror stories about Trading Spaces leaving stuff undo, shoddy work etc. My daughter’s friend is on HGTV on one of the flip it shows, same story totally scripted/induced but at least they are just flipping houses.

    • MurfsGirl
      September 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

      I live about two miles from that bar and this fight has been going on for 6 months now. The production company suggested the handlebars as a promotional gimmick and the town immediately said it was against town ordinance. It was the owner, Betsy who gave the go ahead to put them up…she was the one in defiance of the ordinance, not the production company.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 22, 2013 at 4:18 PM

        Well big shame on her then!

      • September 22, 2013 at 5:53 PM

        I echo mzjulesaz – and given the info you just gave us, I find that the news story is slanted as well – in Betsy’s favor making it look like it is the production company’s fault. More eye opening!!! Thank you, MurfsGirl!!!

    • elemcee
      September 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM

      There is a show on the Travel Channel that is about rescuing hotels or something. They went to Telemark Resort up by Cable, WI. I know the family that built Telemark, so I watched the show. I literally do not think one thing the show said was true. Not even when it was built. It was weird. And for the record, I have no idea if it is open for guests to stay there anymore, but the floors in the entire hotel are so warped I do not believe they can save them. So if you are going there, be prepared to walk on some exceptionally uneven floors on the second and third floor. There is apparently no fact checking on that show at all.

      • wisconsheepgirl
        September 23, 2013 at 9:05 AM

        It’s been closed since right around Christmas. Had foreclosure. Really do hope someone with a big of historical preservation and deep pockets can come save the day. Great snowmobiling area.

        • elemcee
          September 23, 2013 at 12:02 PM

          Oh wow, so that show did not help. Not that I thought it would. We have so much fun up there! It is so, so beautiful.

  15. kayswhims
    September 22, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    My husband and I were talking about NBC Universal and Reality TV. He mentioned that the whole point of Reality TV was making money from advertisement without so much money going out to pay professional actors. The people employed by NBC Universal or connected to it in some way all playing on the same chess board with other pawns. News shows, talk shows, theme parks etc. They save money moving the employees (Reality TV stars, etc) all over the board and make money from advertisers on those news shows, talk shows, etc. A network of puppets/pawns that intertwine for the entire unit to benefit.

    That is why Kathie Lee Gifford ask TSIL that question. The Today show is under NBC Universal. That is why TSIL does not have a real reaction to the question. It is part of the chess game.

    This woman is a talent booker from Bethenny Show, her past work history includes NBC Universal and Wendy Williams show
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/marigo-mihalos/30/5ab/ba9

    Teresa and Jaq played housewives on a program prior to RHONJ. Kathy played a clown in 2003. They have a history of small acting gigs. Obviously, NBC Universal can throw money at making a “housewife” a star whether she sings, writes a book, or stands on her head, it is profiting even if the product bombs.

    • Miami53
      September 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      @Kayswhims…What gigs did Teresa and Jaq play on? The only thing that has me thinking is when Teresa brought Gia to a acting or photo shoot I believe it was Season 1…that made my ears perk up a little…she knows where to find these places……

      • kayswhims
        September 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

        Teresa was Housewife number 2 in a tv show called Mercy
        http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3404373/?ref_=tt_cl_t1

        • GPM
          September 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM

          Jac and Tre played housewives on one episode of the TV show Mercy but that was after they were on RHONJ, kayswhims.

          I’m so glad you made me look that up, though! Teresa also appears in a movie that hasn’t come out yet called Skum Rocks starring Kevin Bacon and the premise of the movie nearly made me spit out my coffee: “The unbelievable true story of the band that gained massive east coast popularity in the late 1980s despite having a complete lack of musical talent and ambition. A powerful PR machine built their fame, and soon their primary objective was to invent new and creative ways to get kicked off stage without actually playing.”

          Given her SIL’s complete lack of musical talent and powerful PR machine backing, is it any wonder they thought of casting Tre right away?!?

          • kayswhims
            September 22, 2013 at 8:03 PM

            Did you see Kathy Wakile listed as a clown in 2003 The Devil’s Filmmaker: Bohica? I could not find a photo of it. My daughter has always been afraid of clowns.

          • kayswhims
            September 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM

            Holy cow lol Danielle Staube played in
            God Has a Rap Sheet 2003
            Whore with Date at Restaurant (as Danille Morelli)

            • Honnie Badger
              September 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM

              That has got to be the lowest of the low. If I were Danielle I would not be proud of that.

  16. September 22, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    I have a friend that started watching RHONJ because of me! We watch the show then go for a “power” walk afterwards! I was telling her last week about how bogus this show is and she seemed shocked. She asked me, “Can they do that to their audience?”. I’m afraid they can and have been for quit sometime now. If my friend wants to watch the show before our power walk I’ll do it. I kind of think she won’t though, since the sun is setting earlier and a man’s body was found in his car, dead, at the university football field we walk at 2 weeks ago. Which the University Police have been parking at the entrance so it’s more secure now than it has ever been! It’s sad about the man though. I got off topic, sorry.

    Thanks, Fame, for this blog and the timeline. I did watch the “TSIL sings” video and laughed at the delusional TB when he said, “TSIL can be the next TSIL Gaga”! I really do think that Johnny Wright is making good on a favor he owes someone at Bravo! I started watching X factor this past week and some of the singers are phenomenal. The young lady who sang “I will always love you” blew me away! When I watch real talent versus storyline talent it makes me wonder why Bravo just doesn’t snag an awesome singer from X factor and make them a housewife? Haha! I know that will never happen but it would help out a truly, gifted singer besides trying to create a truly, horrible, wannabe singer!

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM

      1st and foremost ceeeseeee, be safe on your power walk tonight! That’s scary, but glad to hear the university police are increasing patrols.

      I love the X-factor and the Voice, American Idol not so much anymore. My friend’s daughter sent in an audition tape for the Voice and get selected to go to LA for auditions. She made it through 2 rounds and then was eliminated. She said it was a great experience and plans on trying again and hopes to actually make it through.

      The thing about TSIL is she really can’t sing. I don’t get why all of these people around her are telling her how wonderful she is when she’s not. It’s like someone not telling you that bled through your pants when you are on your period.

      • LaraM
        September 22, 2013 at 9:25 PM

        I will have to watch X-Factor, our family watches the Voice as a family affair, and Duck Dynasty. On my husbands new ipad and hate it, but my iphone took three times to respond to Jules.
        As I told @Fame, am on a new IP and under modification. My daughter is on Mac, my sons PC is grounded bc he was on Minecraft and not doing homework as an honor6th grader. My 8th grader and I can’t use laptops outside off school/ work.

        This apple has taken 10 minutes to re type or change my words. Omg!

      • September 23, 2013 at 12:17 AM

        Thanks for your concern, MzJules! We walked before the sun went down and then watched RHONJ! I feel obligated to watch it with her since I’m the one who turned her on to it! Plus, my friend is hysterical when she mimics TB! So, good food, good company and a bad TV show was what I did this evening.

        This episode was horrendous between TSIL’s singing to the bad, bad, bad editting job! The time line is way off! Bravo filmed TSIL’s “Red, Hot and Boom” appearance for this show the end of June, as Fame said in her blog above. I guess Bravo is expecting the viewers to believe that the radio concert that has 150,000 in attendence was in March before the P2 fight scene? Johnny Wright seems to be playing a part in this RHONJ “reality” made up drama, too. He was telling TSIL that she was to sing the next day, which was a frinday, 6/28/2013, at the radio station and if the station liked her she could sing at their concert. From what I recall, TSIL knew that she was going to appear at the concert before going out to Florida? If I’m wrong, please correct me. When the song was played in the episode it was the autotuned version. If you do look at Chris and Richie’s expression when they were listening to her sing I’m pretty sure they were listening to TSIL live! Their expression’s were like mine when I first heard her sing!

        When Penny was “supposedly” arguing with Tre it was editted to pure hell! Not one scene had Penny and Tre together in. The scene was just odd. I did feel bad for Penny being attacked the way she was. I’m wondering who told Jaq about JTG’s tweet? Or, did she see it, herself? Penny is getting hammered on twitter about her, “I teach autism!” line. People are asking, “how do you teach Autism?”. I’m wondering if Bravo is purposely creating a bogus storyline to use as their defense IF they do go to court regarding the Greeks? IDK? Something is odd about the out of sequence storyline that makes TB and TSIL the poor, pitifull victims! Oh, watching TB makes me wish I could bit-hslap his ugly face! My friends husband, his first time watching, commented on what a slob TB dresses like! He said, “That boy is whipped! Look at the way he’s following his wife around! You would think he would dress better than that!”.

        • mzjulesaz
          September 23, 2013 at 1:49 AM

          There was no tweet about Nic as it doesn’t exist. I’ve followed Penny and JTG for 2 years and they never ever said anything about Nic.

          Penny works with autistic kids and has for years . Does she teach autism, no as you can’t teach that. It was a classic Teresaism but they made into more than it was.

  17. mzjulesaz
    September 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM
    • elianafan
      September 22, 2013 at 3:12 PM

      The part of this I find interesting is Al saying that the ‘housewives characters’ are not their real friends; it’s as though he is ashamed to be associated with them. This is the same reason I felt that Caroline wanted Teresa off the show, because she felt that T’s behaviour was distasteful. But, T has grown from then and now it’s the Whorgas that she and Al find distasteful. To think she was defending them last season!

      • kayswhims
        September 22, 2013 at 7:02 PM

        For a man who works 12 to 16 hours a day, he sure has time to take trips with his “not real friends” lol What makes him think anyone is going to believe he is enjoying anyones company when he is being paid to show up lounge around and looked zoned out. When he jumped up and yelled about Penny is the most I have seen him look alive since the show aired. lol

        • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
          September 23, 2013 at 9:20 PM

          That’s so true…He about hit the roof…don’t think I’ve ever seen him get out of a chair since the show started…

          • September 27, 2013 at 8:48 PM

            So so true! I was wondering why he was so agitated. I’ve never seen Al yell about anything on this show. Reading that he and Caroline were upset about his cheating being outed really put that scene into perspective. Why else would he be so angry? He doesn’t care about the Gorgas or the Giudices.

      • September 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM

        Yes, because while the castmembers may not be their “real friends”,one of Al and Caroline Manzo’s real friends is Bernard Kerik, former NYPD top cop and HLS nominee turned felon who released early from prison to finish his sentencing with “home confinement”. Make sure you click on the link so that you can see the house in Franklin Lakes he’s ‘doing time” in. When he was released in May, the Manzos threw him a huge party at the Brownstone:

        “Kerik — the guest of honor at a feast expected later in the day — offered no comment on his past, present or future after arriving back home in a driving rainstorm.

        Al Manzo, a Kerik pal and owner of The Brownstone restaurant in Paterson, said the former cop’s wife, other family members and close friends were gathering for a robust “Welcome Home” meal.

        “Bernie’s looking for some of the good food he hasn’t been able to get for the last three years,” Manzo told the Daily News. “I’m his friend — I’m there for him. He loves fresh mozzarella, shrimp scampi, beef short ribs.”

        http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-boss-bernard-kerik-prison-article-1.1356234

        Wonder if that friendship will be explored on the Manzo’s new show 😉

        • Laram
          September 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

          @Jeannie, two snaps as usual! Love it! Aka, our Nancy Drew. Xo Lara

  18. September 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    hi family another hard night without my husband by my side. right now i am trying not to get into my sunday line up and am watching the tudors on net flix for the tenth time . i still love that show. will try my hardest not to watch rhonj tonight. i know they are just acting but it keeps my mind off having to live another sunday without Richard. thx guys for keeping this site on because it is the only one i dare write on because i feel comfortable. have a great sunday and Fame if u can keep us posted . 🙂

    • kayswhims
      September 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

      hello,
      I have not seen The Tudors at all. I will have to check it out.

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 3:00 PM

      Tlozano32, hang in there and know that are sending prayers your way.

      I’ve not heard of the Tudors, I’ll have to check it out.

    • September 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

      Big hugs and prayers being sent. Everyone has their own way of grieving and I am sorry for your loss. If watching RHONJ takes a fraction of your pain away, do it.

    • rhofw
      September 22, 2013 at 6:43 PM

      I’m really sorry for your loss! Biggest condolences tlozano32 and whatever you want to watch that makes you feel most comfortable do it (even if it is scripted nonsensical drama) *Hugs* ♥ ツ

    • September 22, 2013 at 7:56 PM

      tlozano32 – my daughter and son-in-law were obsessed with The Tudors when it was on tv and tried to get me into it – but for some reason it was in conflict with something else I used to watch!! They raved about it all the time!!!! You should watch RHONJ if that is what you want to do – whatever it takes to get you through. Jacs is on WWHL tonight too. The rumor is that it is prerecorded – not sure if that is true though. Hugs!

      • rhofw
        September 22, 2013 at 8:24 PM

        With Ashleeee as bartender – can this girl not get a gig w/o her Mom’s help?

    • elemcee
      September 22, 2013 at 8:52 PM

      Tloxzano, I used to watch The Tudors when I had (was it?) HBO. Then I cancelled HBO cuz they were never getting movies I wanted to see. I do have Netflix. Did it continue to be good until the end? How historically accurate do you think it was? I have thought about trying to watch it though the end. And if RHONJ distracts you, watch it! And let us know how bad TSIL sounds! We would enjoy any snark you have about that!

      • September 22, 2013 at 10:42 PM

        Tloxzano, I’m so sorry for your loss.. If watching the RHONJ makes you happy for an hour, then by all means watch them. This reminds me of a story about my wonderful Mom. She had been fighting breast cancer for over 14 years when it went to her lungs. Yes, she was a smoker. My dad was taking her out one night for dinner, she was a shamed to smoke because of what had happened to her. She was in tears that night when I dropped by right before they were leaving. I told her, Mom if you want to smoke a cigarette you go right a head. By this time she had already gone thru 3 major surgeries and was terminal. That’s all she wanted to hear. It made her day that we didn’t hold her smoking against her. She had given her whole life to us 5 kids and all I wanted was her to be happy with the time she had left.

  19. Enga
    September 22, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Hi Fame and fame ily! I just wated to apologize for bringing my dark thoughts and negitivity to this site about Teresa. I have no idea what she is going through personally. She probably needs her job on Bravo to get through this mess she is in. I just wish I could see her on a different platform other than Bravo. On a positive note, Fame you said you were open to suggestions for the new site and I wanted to offer a few. Everyone seems to be so kind and thoughtful of other posters I think a set up with different forums within a blog would really be great. Forums about the latest gossip, world news, international recipe swaps and ideas for cooking and baking, business and law, testimonials and prayer, a chat room for everyday life trails and tribulations just to name a few, lol. What ever you decide, I know with your phenominal reporting and research skills and your savy, insightful commenters it will be fantastic!

    • kayswhims
      September 22, 2013 at 7:04 PM

      I like this idea.

  20. Laram
    September 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Happy Sunday everyone! Everyone posted my sentiments exactly, just wanted to say hello. I will check out the links @kayswhim, @msjulesaz, and all others.

    @tlozano32, hang in there and hope you have a beautiful and peaceful day.

    Jules, hubby and I got out of the Valley yesterday, as kiddie are with their dad. Went to Payson! Loved being in the mountains and the weather! Where should we go next?

    XO to all 🙂

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM

      Jerome is lovely if you have not been … http://www.azjerome.com/jerome/
      Note that the town is built on the mountain, so if you struggle with walking may not be the best place for you.

      This is fun for a weekend as you can’t do it one day (well you could, but why?)
      http://verdecanyonrr.com/

      Obviously Sedona, but it is so touristy now 😦 It is still beautiful. Once in Sedona take 89A up through Oak Creek with stellar views of the Canyon and slide rock is there as well and it will take you out to Flag and then you can come back down on I17 to Phx. Note at the top of the mountain on 89A there is usually a Navajo flea market that has some great stuff.

      Kartchner Caverns, I haven’t been yet but it’s on my bucket list. Everyone that has went said it’s amazing. http://azstateparks.com/parks/kaca/

      Apache Lake is a fun day trip. You drive the old Apache Trail (and it is old) and then they have a restaurant their and it’s just beautiful. You can also rent a pontoon boat for a few hours to putz around the lake. Please be warned the Apache Trail is not for the week of heart, it’s very windy and curvy and still dirt in many places as well as being a single lane sometimes (if you are going up/or down and see a bigger vehicle coming you have to backup to find the nearest pulloff).

      • Laram
        September 22, 2013 at 8:52 PM

        @msjulesaz,

        This is my third attempt to respond, as right before I hit send the screen goes black and nothing saved for reply, so sorry if a tripple repeat!

        Yay! Love your suggestions. We have all the guidebooks for AZ an the Valley, but helps to hear from a native or local, and you. Will definitely try all.

        Prior to my medical and meds last couple of years, I was training for a triathlon. So I’m good with walks and hiking. May have gained some weight last 2 yrs. but AZ was in my blood.

        I turned down all AZ and CO schools for college at last minute for a scholarship at KU. Was enrolled at 18 in ASU, and knew one day I would be back.

        I grew up fishing, owned a windsurfer and mountain bike as a kid, kayaking, weight lifting, an athlete on and off ice, a dancer, hiking, mountain biking. At 45 still do all, and as a kid a skier and surfer on vacations. So hikes don’t bother me.

        Altitudes and Vertigo with illness getting better for me. The illness made me scared and anxious, once aware, I was fine on drive and curves to Payson. I’ve also had my hubby take me on rides on his “donor mobile” as my nurse mother and doctor cousins call a motorcycle, to let go of fear and control.

        Xo, got to send before erased again, and these flies in Maricopa are keeping me from typing outside as an outdoors gal!

        • mzjulesaz
          September 22, 2013 at 9:36 PM

          Have you tried the pennies in a bag with water on the patio?

          And you are welcome for suggestions, I have many more as we do live in a great state!

          • Laram
            September 23, 2013 at 2:36 AM

            Yes, so funny you mentioned that! Last time we had a BBQ with his friends, they gave us a swamp cooler, and laughed at his one sandwich Baggie with 5 pennies. We probably have in coffee cans and 10 gallon coin jars, hundreds of dollars in pennies, etc.

            Tomorrow, I’m nailing up freezer bags with a lot of pennies all over three sides of pergola and our overhang deck. Lol! Love that you know that about flies!

            • mzjulesaz
              September 23, 2013 at 2:48 AM

              My mom has horses (lives across the street) and has horrible flies — they get sprayed, but she uses the pennies too. It’s weird as I don’t have flies right across the street.

  21. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Losing on my football bets…need a sweep on the later games to even stay in it. 😦 Psyched for Devious Maids…but not sure if finale is tonight.

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      It is the finale tonight of DM, they say that the 2 minutes are explosive. I love that show!

      I tried getting into the Miami Monkey (as I love Big Ang) — but it’s like a rip off of Pump Rules is or whatever it’s called and sucks. 😦

      Revenge and Once upon a Time are back next week, I can’t wait!

      PS — Hopefully you get a sweep 🙂

      • mzjulesaz
        September 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM

        last two minutes … ugh, I hate when my brain works faster than my fingers type.

      • September 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM

        Revenge and Once Upon A Time – two of my favorite shows!!!!. Jules, did you know there is a spin-off Once Upon A Time in Wonderland on Thursdays starting October 10. Here is a link to give you an idea of what it will be about – I am looking forward to it!!!!

        http://abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time-in-wonderland

        • mzjulesaz
          September 22, 2013 at 9:34 PM

          I saw that and I can’t wait! My dad thinks I’m nuts for watch “that crap” but is ok RHONJ … LOL

          • September 22, 2013 at 9:59 PM

            Aw, that’s funny! But the writing for OUAT is soooo creative and is soooo well acted – can I say Robert Carlton (Mr.Gold/Rumple)!!!!! One of the few times I have ever felt such empathy for a “villain” – love him!!!!!

            • September 22, 2013 at 10:02 PM

              “Robert Carlyle”

              • mzjulesaz
                September 22, 2013 at 10:48 PM

                I have a crush on Mr. Gold/Rumple!! I actually have empathy for the queen too. 🙂

        • kayswhims
          September 22, 2013 at 9:56 PM

          We love Once Upon A Time. I have not seen Revenge.

          • mzjulesaz
            September 22, 2013 at 10:50 PM

            If you watch Revenge, you have to start from S1 as it builds upon each episode. I love it thought!

        • Goozy Girl
          September 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM

          I love Once Upon a Time, but the evil queen never really gets her comeuppance. I know it’s to keep the story going but still grrrrrrr!

        • September 23, 2013 at 5:43 AM

          oooh love love once upon a time, its really good show, i watch grey’s anatomy too and by the way drop dead dive is really cool too,funny yet nice storyline.

  22. September 22, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    thanks for the hard work you have done fame and i appreciated all the work you’ve done, i especially am thankful for meeting all these wonderful posters you have on your page, you work was not in vain 🙂

  23. mzjulesaz
    September 22, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Interesting ….

    danielle staub ‏@daniellestaub 2m
    Considering another book about THE ORIGINAL CAST “THE REAL REALITY of #RHONJ ”
    send your thoughts to @JATAIL @andy & @Bravotv #LOVEnLIGHTDS

    • rhofw
      September 22, 2013 at 6:38 PM

      I would just love it, if it was a behind the scenes tell all! Danielle must know production secrets and maybe some of Dandy Ho-hen’s? We can but hope…

      • mzjulesaz
        September 22, 2013 at 6:49 PM

        I’d pre-order it today! Her gag order must be expiring.

        • rhofw
          September 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM

          Lol! I thought that when she was putting Meho on blast on wwhl, how long have Bravho got the RW’s in contracts for? I couldn’t keep my mouth shut that long.

    • aaacccp
      September 22, 2013 at 7:42 PM

      I’ll take one!!!

    • Honnie Badger
      September 23, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      Jules, I honestly hope she can get all the cooperation she needs to expose the full reality here. Honestly, SOMEONE needs to do this! A true expose. and FW is the best blogger to assist, I believe.

  24. September 22, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    This is the first time I am replying to any of Fame’s posts. Had to say something. This site has been great. I do not watch RHONJ but I do know a couple of cast members but can’t identify myself. Sorry. I do look at other sites and I am amazed at what they come up with and what they “claim” to know. Fame’s site seems to be the only one that actually tried to get and print the most accurate information. I too hope that RHONJ is over this season, too many people have had their names and reputations (personal and business) severely damaged (outside of “reality TV world”) by doing this show. So called “celebrity” can really turn your head around, and not in a good way. Your blog and your posters have seen through alot of the bs and let me just say that Teresa is not the troublemaker here, she is not the one bringing disgrace on her father’s name. Real life and real family are not a “reality show”. Some people have really confused the two. Thanks for your site, it will be missed by many (probably a lot more of people like me who “lurk” but don’t post.)

    • aaacccp
      September 22, 2013 at 7:38 PM

      Hi katie, for this family I hope and pray the show will be over very soon.

  25. September 22, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    LMFAO!!!! I needed this laugh Fame! I am recovering from breast reconstruction surgery and boy did I need this blog. Perfect timing. Now I am going to read all the posts!

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      {{{{{Meho}}}}}, prayers for a speedy recovery.

    • rhofw
      September 22, 2013 at 6:58 PM

      i wish you a speedy and as pain free as possible recovery – and try not to laugh to hard or you may hut your bubbies 🙂

    • aaacccp
      September 22, 2013 at 7:33 PM

      I really love your name and I wish you the very best for a great and easy recovery,God bless!

    • September 22, 2013 at 7:42 PM

      Mehonogo – take care of yourself – no lifting and best of all no vacuuming!!!! Use this time to really pamper and “baby” yourself – you deserve it. And when you are all recovered, go out and find the most fabulous bedazzled blouse/top as a gift to yourself – you deserve it!!!!!

    • meri4911
      September 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM

      Heal quickly Mehonogo!

    • LaraM
      September 22, 2013 at 9:28 PM

      It will cheer up while healing. Trust me, and blessings on healing.

    • September 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM

      Meho, I wish you a speedy recover.

    • Goozy Girl
      September 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      wishing you a speedy recovery.

  26. Calypso
    September 22, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Help! Something happened and I can’t enlarge the Gravatar pictures anymore. Does anyone know how to fix this? I’m not sure what happened so I don’t know what to look for in their help section.

    • rhofw
      September 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      Hi calypso I think you may need to contact them, if you haven’t already or google it, I ♡ google lol 😻

      • September 22, 2013 at 8:03 PM

        Thanks but my son came home and fixed it for me. I turned off the hover cards. If anyone else has this problem – just delete your cookies and it should fix it.

        • rhofw
          September 22, 2013 at 8:19 PM

          It’s okay, cute doggy you have 🙂

  27. aaacccp
    September 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    What will they show tonight????

  28. rhofw
    September 22, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Hey Fame 💕 that you’re back on posting about RHONJ!
    As for other suggestions for this page you could have a recipe corner, a book club type of thing and I think perhaps an “problem” page? A lot of posters here have found great hope, a way forward, confidence and amazing advice but mostly friends, here to help with kind words of support. No nastiness toward other poster here at FW and I love this site for that, it truly has made a fame~ily.
    Cat Face 😻 (In no way affiliated with cafface LOL)

  29. Miss Alicat
    September 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    I admit, I’m weak, I’m watching…It’s like watching a train wreck.

    • Miss Alicat
      September 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM

      Ok, so they just showed the radio station segment and it definitely was NOT the actual audio that was going around a few weeks ago.

      • Miss Alicat
        September 22, 2013 at 9:01 PM

        ok so that was an hour wasted…the fight is next week if anyone cares. Tre & Juicy are going to be on WWHL next week.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 22, 2013 at 9:43 PM

        No it was the track and it still sucked hind tit!

  30. rhofw
    September 22, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Bravo has every episode from this season of RHONJ playing tomorrow, I wonder if they’ll edit out T saying “Daughters” and replace it with “Kids”.

  31. Stella729
    September 22, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    I watched, I have to say sometimes I think Teresa has to be in on this because its just too crazy, but then they show her crying over it and she is genuinely upset. (Crying next weeks promo)

  32. meri4911
    September 22, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Every time I think Bravo/Sirens can not get any lower, low and behold, they stoop down into the sewer and pull out some bullshit that just blows my mind. How is it okay to portray this Johnny the Greek as tweeting that Nicholas is not autistic, when he did not tweet it? Where is the proof? Oh????? There is no proof, because he did not do it. It is slanderous!
    Twitter is going wild over this ridiculous accusation. Bravo/Sirens has lost all credibility and it makes so giddy. Adios Bravo…I wish I could say it’s been fun, but it has been torture watching this show the last 3 seasons.

    I’m not even going to bother mentioning how it was all Teresa’s fault, because we all knew that was coming, Disgusting!

    • LaraM
      September 22, 2013 at 9:29 PM

      I’m glad I didn’t watch. Thanks for update!!

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 9:42 PM

      I have followed him and Penny for 2 years and he did not ever in way shape size or form say anything negative against any child. In the Marcos and QOM attacked his kids. Total bullshit story tonight and editing.

      • September 23, 2013 at 12:30 AM

        I just left a comment above wondering who told Jaq what JTG tweeted? So, I’m glad that you have been following them and never seen anything like that. Jaq is acting like Penny and JTG tweeted something low down and insulting about Nic! Really the bogus tweet was about them as parents! I do remember the beginning of the year and the worst tweeter’s were the Marco’s and QOM!

        • September 23, 2013 at 12:53 AM

          JTG never tweeted anything about the Lauritas, that’s why Bravo didn’t show the tweet – it’s an outright lie – a “fabrication.”

        • mzjulesaz
          September 23, 2013 at 1:52 AM

          Johnny loves children and would never say/tweet anything derogatory. Did he tweet that Jac should stay off twitter to take care of her son … yes I do recall something along those lines. But I tweeted the same thing to her.

      • Laram
        September 23, 2013 at 2:48 AM

        Yep.! It was always QoM, Melissa’s hair boy, and fugly on the inside Marco’s sisters. Even to harass and wake a sleeping tiger, with brain tumor/cancer Bryan. All are sick, and sorry but Greeks played into it, when they could have told truth since episode one, season three. They sold out, and Teresa got played, by production. All idiots!!

  33. IamNobodysHW
    September 22, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Is everyone in that audience, johnny and anyone else who thinks TSIL can sing tone deaf? I just can’t with these people anymore. TSIL CANNOT SING!!!! and couldn’t carry a tune if it came in a sushi bag. OPS meant gucci bag LOL

    • elemcee
      September 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM

      LOL! Love it!

  34. September 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    This comment has been moved into the blog as an update after watching season 5 episode 17.

    If JohnnyTheGrk had tweeted about Nicholas, Bravo would have shown the tweet.

    autism 1
    autism 2

    • just this once
      September 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM

      Anthony Arater ‏@AArater 1h
      pic.twitter.com/mqPYqjI3I4
      9:51 PM – 22 Sep 13

      • just this once
        September 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM
      • September 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM

        Vicky Soltero ‏@vickysoltero 1h
        @AArater – when are we going to hear your story ??
        6:53 PM – 22 Sep 13

        Anthony Arater ‏@AArater 1h
        @vickysoltero I already signed the contract, it’s on them fighting with @melissagorgas layers tryin to stop it
        6:54 PM – 22 Sep 13

    • just this once
      September 22, 2013 at 11:10 PM

      Thanks Fame! In between my Steelers, laundry, your blog and RHONJ……couldn’t ask 4 a better nite!

    • meri4911
      September 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM

      I am embarrassed that I watch this “reality” show. As another blogger mentioned, it truly is an insult to my intelligence. At this point I somehow can’t stop until the end of the season. I still support Teresa and her immediate family, because you can’t deny that her brother and SIL and cousin came on this show and tried to destroy her. And you can’t deny that she has been through tremendous heartache because of it. And to top it off her and her husband are in huge leal trouble and I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. But as she said herself, this is a tv show and she is a good employee and therefore she does as she is told. I’m guessing that is why she said she didn’t know Penny and Johnny, but who really knows. We will never know the complete truths, but Fame certainly has untwisted the deceit and lies and made it clear that what we see is not “reality”
      Thank you Fame for all your hard work uncovering the lies. Your blogs have been enlightening to say the least. You are a fantastic writer, always clearly stating the facts and making it easy to understand. I too “hate this show” at this point, but like I said before, I will finish out the season and then put it to rest.
      I look forward to some new and fun topics to discuss with our Fame-ily! 🙂

  35. Enga
    September 22, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Yay, I am so glad I didn’t watch tonight so proud of myself. Sounds like I missed a train wreck! Lol. Love you Fame and fame ily!

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 11:54 PM

      It was just so scripted and poorly edited. Good for you Enga!

  36. September 22, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Bravo will be airing a taped WWHL One on One special next Sunday night, immediately following the RHONJ finale, with Teresa and Joe Giudice. In the preview, Andy asks some brutal questions, including:

    Do you think you could survive in jail?
    Are you worried about being deported?
    What have you told your kids about the charges?
    Would you consider letting your brother and Melissa take care of them if it came to that?
    Do you think that there were people were happy that this happened to you?
    Do you think that people watching you at home think that you are in denial about the severity of what’s going on?

    The shots of Teresa and Joe’s faces are upsetting.

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM

      I saw that Jeannie and I’m furious at both them and Andy for doing this to them. The preview was cold and uncaring. Will I watch yes as I want to be able to articulately bitch about it.

      Andy Cohen is cold hearted uncaring putz and it’s no wonder he’s single.

      • September 22, 2013 at 11:58 PM

        I agree – I think it is a huge mistake for them to be doing this interview – their contract does not oblige them to do it.

        • mzjulesaz
          September 23, 2013 at 12:00 AM

          Do we know that for a fact? I would love to get my hands on a bravo contract — to read, not sign.

        • September 23, 2013 at 12:07 AM

          Could it be really possible that it is written in their contract they are obliged to speak about their 39count indictment which came down after filming ended? How could B/S have any control over that? Then if that is the case, my next question would be why don’t the Lauritas have to talk about their case?

          • September 23, 2013 at 12:13 AM

            All of these castmembers are idiots if they have signed contracts that are so controlling, the show can just barge in and seize any part of their lives, and air it to the public at their own will with no regard. I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them.

            • September 23, 2013 at 12:38 AM

              So true, Jeannie! According to sources, the Sirens Media contract (the producers of RHONJ) provides that producers “may edit, dub, delete, or fabricate footage.” It actually uses the word fabricate.

          • September 23, 2013 at 12:50 AM

            I don’t see how it could be possible that they have to speak about all their legal issues on camera – the 39-count federal indictment came after season 5 contracts were signed and before season 6 contracts were signed. The bankruptcy filing and later withdrawal because of fraud, the fraud charges filed by Joe’s ex business partner, the DUI, the driving on a suspended license, and the DMV identity theft charges are the cases that have been discussed on camera. The federal indictment against both Joe and Teresa occurred after season 6 premiered. Bravo must be paying them bonuses to talk about it on camera or helping with their defense, which they should.

            • mzjulesaz
              September 23, 2013 at 2:21 AM

              I hope it’s damn big bonuses! Do you think Tre and Juicy will get higher ratings than Bethenny? 🙂

            • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
              September 23, 2013 at 9:26 PM

              Lawyers trump producers, every time. They won’t say anything without attorney approval first, I think we can rest assured on this one…

  37. mzjulesaz
    September 22, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Yes I am watching tonight 😦 And watching WWHL as well. I have to say I can’t stand Kelly Ripa, she’s one of Andy’s bitches and she looked horrible. Ashlee looked good and is following the footsteps of her cousin to become a make-up artist — LOL. Jac was ok, didn’t seem buzzed out, but her and Teresa are in a good place, not the same, but a good place. PS Kelly something rude (in my mind about Milania) so go scratch.

    T&J are on next week I think, but it’s not live. Andy digs into some tough questions for them including who will get the kids. I will watch, but I don’t think they should have done the show.

    • September 23, 2013 at 2:02 AM

      How disgusting is that?!? First of all, he should have never even asked a question like that. And secondly, he knows they are going through all this legal stuff and really should not be talking about it. It’s just rude and mean on Andy’s part. Would he ask that of any of the others? There is a line and when you get to it you need to just stop. But who am I kidding, this is Bravo and Andy.

    • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
      September 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM

      I have to wonder if they aren’t contractually obligated to appear on Andy’s vanity tea party. There is ALWAYS a bravo employee there. Without the HW Andy would still just be some VP at Bravo, which has a lot of pull in the production side of the industry. In the celebrity world, he’ll always be a C-List wannabe. He wants to have his cake and eat it too, but he reminds me of the basic cable queen who can’t seem to grasp that people are laughing at her, not with her.

      • mzjulesaz
        September 23, 2013 at 10:09 PM

        The sad part is people used to like (some still do) before his ego exploded. I can’t stand him.

  38. September 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Ashlee Holmes is the bartender right now at WWHL – A caller asked her what she does for a living – she’s blogging and going to school in January to be a make-up artist. And, wait for it – she works for: USWEEKLY – imagine that!!!!!

    Gee, I wonder how she got THAT job!!!

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM

      Fauz said she said US Weekly, I was only 1/2 ass paying attention and did not hear that — did she really?

      • September 22, 2013 at 11:55 PM

        Yes – when Andy asked her something about the fact he thought she had her sh*t together, she said she was working for USWeekly and he said something like “Oh, you’re making coin for blogging – I thought you were just blogging on AshleeHolmesdotcom.”

        • mzjulesaz
          September 22, 2013 at 11:59 PM

          Thanks wasn’t paying a whole lot of attention, well that explains alot!

        • rhofw
          September 23, 2013 at 12:23 AM

          Wasn’t there talk of Ashleeeee & Jackass being fired a while ago for selling stories to the rag mags? And now we have Ahsleeee (who is nearly as plastic as MamaPlasticFace) working and getting paid for writing stories on the info that Jackass is probably giving her?
          I just can’t with these people, they need slapped in the face with a fish…

          • mzjulesaz
            September 23, 2013 at 2:18 AM

            Yes it was last week I think and Radar of Lies … so who knows.

        • September 23, 2013 at 1:47 AM

          Well, there you go!! I wish I could say that I’m shocked….

  39. mzjulesaz
    September 22, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Wonder what this means … I’m going to have to rewatch

    Teresa Giudice ‏@Teresa_Giudice 3m
    Penny must be jumping up & down in joy right now. #Hilarious #WWHL
    Expand

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 11:36 PM

      Ah she won the poll … of course Tre never does!

  40. rhofw
    September 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    The only way the truth will come out at the reunion is if Judge Judy hosts it! But Dandy is too far up his own ass to let someone else take over…

    • mzjulesaz
      September 22, 2013 at 11:52 PM

      I think his head is the only thing that ever gets up his ass. He’s gross.

      • rhofw
        September 23, 2013 at 12:09 AM

        Lmao! I hope so for those poor naive interns…

  41. Goozy Girl
    September 22, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    I just watched a short clip of Teresa, apologizing to her brother about things she may not have handled well in the past like feeling good when she heard the rumors about melissa and not jumping to her defense. He was sitting there listening being all benevolent and understanding.
    I’m rather perplexed, Is Teresa apologising to someone who admitted to coming to your place of employment to destroy your reputation and living of his only sister, who has asked people to lie about you in order to humiliate and subject you to public ridicule (but for devoted fans a seekers of the truth who had your back) A brother who probably has a hand in leaking information that has led to the 39 count indictment that maysee you go to jail and your husband and father of your girls deported. who dined with your enemies. this can’t be real, I feel like an idiot for investing so much of emotion on the unfairness of your situation. Never again. Now I understand why Fame is done with this franchise.
    Just got a call from my sister that my beautiful Papa has taken a turn for the worse. I’m dashing to the hospital now, please pray for him my Fame-ily.

    • mzjulesaz
      September 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM

      Prayers headed your way and your father’s way goozy. Please keep us posted.

    • rhofw
      September 23, 2013 at 12:30 AM

      You’re in my Prayers tonight, hope all goes well. You’ll be in my thoughts ✿ ✮ ♡

    • September 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM

      I’m praying for your Papa and your family, Goozy Girl.

    • September 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM

      Goozy Girl – you have my prayers and hugs.

    • September 23, 2013 at 2:29 AM

      Praying for you and Papa

    • September 23, 2013 at 4:13 AM

      So sorry, prayers being offered.

      • September 23, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        im so praying for your papa,

    • LifeIsGood
      September 23, 2013 at 6:11 AM

      I’ll keep your papa in my prayers, Goozy Girl.

  42. September 23, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    XL106.7
    Johnny Wright
    Sirens Media
    Bravo
    The Gorgas

    All the above are lying to the viewers. They all know that Melissa Gorga sang with a backing track so that her actual voice couldn’t be heard when she performed “live” on June 28 at XL106.7 (as shown in episode 17 – come on!, the vocal coach only worked with her for a day; you can’t fix her problems in a day, if ever!). In mid August, someone at XL106.7 uploaded a video of her performance, and the track with her vocals must have been isolated so it could be heard over the backing track – she sounded bad, even worse then when she was singing for the vocal coach because it wasn’t cut and so it lasted for the entire song, uninterrupted. The video was copied and distributed in the blogs for about a week or so before all copies were taken down due to “copyright infringement” – all copies but the one at StoopidHousewives, which I kept checking because I was curious as to why it was still there when all other copies vanished. Mysteriously, her blog was shutdown for “maintenance” for almost a week in early September, and came back up with the video still available, but then was shutdown again for two days. When SH came back online on September 12th, the video was gone, “taken down by request.” They are trying very, very hard to hide the truth and to deceive the public. What a shame.

    P.S. This is my theory (solely based on observation) as to why SH was offline. I think she agreed to take down the video to prevent a lawsuit, and I think the agreement prevents her from telling readers the real reason she went offline.

    “Oh yeah—they knew they couldn’t let her sing at that radio station without a autotune track playing for her to sing ‘under’…. I heard that live tape and OMG it was so bad. I was embarrassed for her. Melissa had her lawyers make everyone take all the videos down, yet she continues to pursue her music career and tell everyone how fabulous she is and please download my songs, etc. I mean – what kind of a person KNOWS that they cannot sing without autotune, is a total fake and phony, yet loves themselves so much that they continue to try and make everyone else think they are so fabulous and talented….. WHO DOES THAT?????? Melissa Gorga, the narcissistic b*tch who worships herself more than life itself.” – Glimmer88, Bravo’s Garden Statements Blog

    • rhofw
      September 23, 2013 at 12:34 AM

      *Applause* to you Fame, totally agree with everything!
      Are there really NO copies anywhere?
      If someone has one, it’s probably worth gold, Meho really doesn’t want that abysmal performance out there…

      • mzjulesaz
        September 23, 2013 at 2:01 AM

        There is one of our fame-ly members that has it … can’t remember who.

        • dubbalicious
          September 23, 2013 at 7:36 AM

          Saddle has it! If I remember correctly.. 🙂

  43. September 23, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    I am appalled after watching Penny Drossos and the things she said about Teresa tonight. May she rot in hell. I hope your fifteen min. of fame was worth it. There is only so much bad editing you csn blsme when she is sitting there pointing her finger at Teresa and blaming her for her three year campaign to get on the show. I saw your tweets from the beginning. And the tweets from your co workers and friends. No way, that is any of teresa’s fault. when you are cornered like the rat you are, you stab teresa in the back. Shame on you when you know all that she is going through. Disgusting.

    • mzjulesaz
      September 23, 2013 at 2:06 AM

      The telling thing for me this week that Tre tweet .. I bet Penny is jumping up and down now. After the poll.

    • elianafan
      September 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM

      Penelope PitStop has been updated at faux reality entertainment to explain.

    • elemcee
      September 23, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      Gessie, obviously I have not watched the episode. It was that bad? I have said from the get go, if JTG and Penny were really trying to help, they would have just released the information online for free. They supposedly work so hard for children, but they cannot do what is right for the Giudice girls? Everyone warned them this would happen, and we are supposed to feel sorry for them now? Of course, I have complete sympathy that JTG was physically attacked; however, I believe T is being punished because she did not want them involved in her life. She does not want her brother’s past discussed. Ever. But, I have not seen the episode and do not know what happened last night.

      • September 23, 2013 at 1:57 PM

        The cast knows that their personal lives are fair game, but it’s mostly the Giudices’ personal issues and Melissa’s skeletons being exposed.

        In the Gorga’s case, they talked on camera to all the cast about the Giudice’s personal business. They taped scenes where they talked about the Giudice’s finances, Juicy’s legal issues, rumors of Juicy cheating, etc. PLUS they taped with “outsiders” – Kim G, Monica Chacon and the Hizas in past seasons – who wanted to spread the dirt on the Giudices.

        In Teresa’s case, she taped scenes with people she knew were capable of stirring up drama for Melissa (Kim D, Penny, Jan, etc.).

        They all have to cooperate with production to keep their jobs, so that’s what they do. They don’t want to leave the show because they like the fame and fortune it provides, so they have to abide by their contracts:

        “The show may expose them to public ridicule, humiliation or condemnation and may portray them in a false light. It’s the producer’s sole discretion and right to edit, delete, dub and fictionalize material as production sees fit. Footage of them may be exploited throughout the universe at any time, in perpetuity… without any compensation to them whatsoever. They agree that they will never sue Producer, Sirens Media, NBCUniversal, Bravo or anyone because they do not like the manner in which production used the footage and materials in the program.”

        Teresa admitted during reunion 4 that she knew a setup was about to go down at the S4 PFS (strippergate), but said she didn’t know exactly what (which is hard to believe since Melissa’s former boss at Lookers showed up at the hair salon hours before they taped the PFS). But there was nothing she could do to stop it – the Gorgas know this. To warn her that she was being targeted for a setup, Teresa may very well have told Melissa before the PFS about what her former boss said (I think they all knew that he was coming to the PFS and it was no surprise to anyone what the setup was about), but she can’t tell the viewers this because it goes against her contract.

        The cheating rumors about Melissa started circulating in the blogs years ago. Bravo interviewed Penny in August 2012 because she brought them strippergate and they wanted to be sure she could bring them cheatergate.

        In season 5, Teresa taped a scene with Penny and Kim D where she agreed to take a phone call from Melissa’s past – this was taped early in the season, on December 3, 2012 (at the holiday PFS), and this is what started the cheating storyline for season 5 even though it never aired (the entire cast knew about it and so did the blogs because it was leaked right after it occurred). But Bravo cut this from the show so that they could fictionalize the story of how the cheating rumors started.

        The phone call being leaked to the blogs, along with already existing blog rumors about Bulldog, led to Bryan’s identity being revealed in the blogs (he was the subject of the phone call). This was not Bryan’s choice – his story was forced into the open by the blogs. Bryan did not agree to appear on camera and refused to give Bravo permission to use his name (which is why it is bleeped out of season 5).

        The cast knows that Teresa listened to the rumors when producers had Penny approach her back on December 3, 2012. It was because Teresa took this call that they could pin the blame for the rumors on her. The rumors existed for years before this, and Teresa wasn’t responsible for spreading them, but she did help bring the storyline to season 5 by taking the call on camera, which she was required by contract to do.

        The cast is required to follow production’s orders. Producers wanted Melissa’s cheating as a storyline for season 5. They used Teresa to develop the storyline, with the intent to blame her for the rumors, which would continue to fuel the family feud, the Gorga’s only true storyline.

        It is this encounter between Penny and Teresa on December 3, 2012 (a scene that didn’t air) that producers used to drive the storyline that Teresa is behind the rumors or, as Teresa says, that “she put Penny up to it” – the connection between Penny and Teresa and the cheating rumors doesn’t make sense to the viewers because this scene never aired.

        According to a FW source, producers had Kim D and Penny approach Teresa on camera at the holiday PFS on December 3, 2012 and say to her, “I heard cheating rumors about your SIL; do you want to know?” The following is the conversation between Teresa and Penny, according to the source (not exact quotes but something very similar).

        Penny: I heard rumors about your SIL; do you want to know?

        Teresa: I want to know about Bryan.

        Penny: What you want to know is bad. Are you sure you want to know? If you want to know, I’ll tell you.

        Kim D jumps in: I want to know.

        Penny tells Kim D to shut up.

        Teresa: Melissa said that Bryan was her ex boyfriend.

        Penny: She lived with him.

        Teresa: Yeah, I want to know what you have to say.

        Penny again cautions her: Do you, for the last time?

        Teresa: Yes, I want to know.

        Teresa takes the phone call from Mike, but gets upset after hearing what he has to say about Melissa cheating on Joe with Bryan Bowen, and says she doesn’t want to hear anymore.

        Read the rest here:

        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/teresa-giudice-did-not-spread-the-cheating-rumors-about-melissa-gorga-she-listened-to-what-penny-drossos-karagiorgis-had-to-say-about-brian-bulldog-bowen/

        • pjbottoms
          September 24, 2013 at 1:21 PM

          Fame I’m sorry but I’m getting a little confused about “the fight.” JTG didn’t know he would get hurt that night, but he knew a physical altercation could happen, and if he did get injured, tough luck? So JTG sues Jac and Jac and Chris counter and the case is dropped as felony and terrorism. Did JTG actually get hurt or was it like pro wrestling?

  44. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 23, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Teresa and Joe are between a rock and a hard place—surely the questions and responses for WWHL were vetted by their lawyers and hopefully intended to sway the public/jury pool? Both realize they’ve made a deal with the devil (BRAVO/Sirens) and are trying to make the best of it .. plus keep their (her) future earning power. The network is very powerful..as seen by the internet “scrubbing” and national audience…I’m hoping their appearance is in return for some good publicity and perhaps some help with the case.

    Love this blog…just popped by to say how I loveloveloved the Devious Maid finale but wonder if they’ll have a 2nd Season and if they do – what will it be about? I like and am interested in the characters but must ghoulishly admit, I liked the murder best of all, lol. Was kind of hoping there’d be another cliffhanger type murder for the next Season.

    PS: That pic of Messy on her knees NEVER gets old…especially 80’s Caroline in the background tinkling herself with joy at the grotesque display! It’s so revealing on so many levels, isn’t it?

    PPS: Tx for the updated blog too (((Famey))) 🙂

  45. elle
    September 23, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    I should have known better than to bother with WWHL tonight. Is Kelly Ripa always this annoying?

    • mzjulesaz
      September 23, 2013 at 2:15 AM

      Yes .. she is one of Andy’s bitches (they vaca together), but she has a following, why I’m not sure as she is annoying.

      • Sjprincess1
        September 23, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        I was on a dance show with Kelly in the 80s. She was fake and annoying even back then. I would make fun of the big hair she had, but we all had it 🙂

        • mzjulesaz
          September 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM

          I loved her on AMC but when she went on the talk show, her head exploded!

  46. September 23, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    Okay, I didn’t watch the show when it came on at 8pm. I was watching football instead 🙂 Anyway, I thought I’d see if I could catch a little bit of it before I went to bed. So I just now start watching and Jac is literally saying that anyone who sits behind a computer and tweets all day is a loser. OMG……I couldn’t help myself…..I had to laugh because, hello, that is what she does!! So…..is she calling herself a loser?? She is all pissed off because people are saying she is using her son. So what exactly is she doing then? Look, I think her little boy is just precious and of course I want him to get “therapy” if that is what he needs but she did put him out there to get herself attention. And her calling out ANYBODY who is on twitter is like the pot calling the kettle black. And to change the subject a tad, now TSIL and TB is accusing Teresa of starting “rumors” about her. Kinda funny because I thought that if something was true then it wasn’t a rumor. If TSIL didn’t want these things getting out there then maybe she should have kept her legs closed and/or her mouth shut, if you get my drift 😉

    • September 23, 2013 at 8:48 AM

      I caught that on Jaq! What a hypocrite! Didn’t she say this past summer that tweeting doesn’t take that much time? Jaq was disgusting on the things she tweeted about Tre. I remember one of Jaq’s tweets was about Gabriella looking like one of Tre’s ex’s? That was disgusting and she deserved to be sued or her hair pulled really, really hard!

  47. September 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM

    I’m still waiting for melissa and joe to apologize to teresa…..it looks bad that only teresa has apologized when Joe was saying teresa never wants to admit when she’s wrong

  48. September 23, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    Poor TSIL…..the perpetual victim. Does anyone think that Teresa knew TSIL was going to be set up at the end of last season? I don’t believe she did. But I believe that Jac knew. And Jac is sitting there acting all disappointed that Penny told everyone Teresa was the one who set it all up. And the clip they showed of the season finale where Teresa is trying to talk to her brother and telling him she loves him all while he is shaking his head at her in disapproval….all I can say is I would walk away in 2 seconds flat. If anyone should be saying they love someone it should be that scum TB to his sister. I hope he and his skank wife are happy and pleased with themselves. One day he will need his sister and it will be too late.

  49. September 23, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Just call this blog women’s entertainment or ladies room

    Recipes, anything you want, tv shows, etc and just let it be a sharing website so u don’t have to do too much work 🙂

  50. September 23, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    I like that, Wine not 🙂

  51. September 23, 2013 at 1:47 AM

    I’ll try one more time.. Someone please help me with this.

    Even if it doesn’t get anywhere, if it catches the attention of Bravo to see the amount of support Teresa has and how many people are fed up with Bravo, it will be worth it.

    Can somebody please help me with something. I’m trying to start a petition but its not working for me. Would anyone be interested in doing this for me please and re posting the completed link here for all to sign? You can copy what I had already written…

    https://www.change.org/start-a-petition

    Whom do you want to petition? Cooking Channel and Food Network

    What do you want them to do? Give Teresa Giudice her own show

    Why is this important?

    Teresa Giudice has a large fan base. Even Bravo’s Andy Cohen has said how crazy Teresa’s fanbase is. She is a best selling cookbook author, authentic, real, and endearing to watch as she fumbles her English words due to Italian being her first language. We as her fans, and Teresa herself, know she is in high demand for her own reality show from various networks, but nobody wants her family to be hurt through this process ever again through editing etc…which is why we feel you, Cooking Channel and Food Network, would handle her and her life best with dignity and respect, while letting her do what she does best – cook and love love love. Her recipes are amazing, her family is hilarious, her husband makes amazing homemade wine and sausage. We want to see her cooking with her beautiful mother and amazing mother in law. We want to see Teresa & her big fat Italian family! They are TV gold.

    Oh and this picture

    http://thedish.plated.com/inside-the-plated-kitchen-mothers-day-with-teresa-giudice/

    Thank you

    • kayswhims
      September 23, 2013 at 8:47 AM

      I would rather see a show with Teresa and her family doing what they do and enjooying each other. The Cooking Channel and The Food Network are heavy on the cooking format and Teresa does better if she does not have to stand there and explain the steps.

    • September 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM

      winenot –

      I admire your loyalty and your commitment in trying to get a petition started. I really do.

      But, unfortunately, with the extremely serious charges that have been made against the Giudices and the trial scheduled for early 2014, I do not think it would help Teresa at this time. No one, with the exception of B/S, is going to touch the Giudices, until it is resolved. There is a very real possibility that either or both will be found guilty and do jail time. It is also a very real possibility Joe will be deported once he serves his sentence, if found guilty. Other networks and/or sponsors, more than likely, will not get themselves involved right now with such a mess and really, who could blame them. Look at what the bigwigs at Milania Hair Care did – they really were contemplating dropping Teresa as a spokesperson but in the end, made the decision to stick with her. Let’s see what happens when the trial begins.

      If you want to support the Giudices, I think the best way you can is by continuing to her and her products and, if you believe in the power of prayer, then do so.

      As I said, I admire your tenacity, loyalty, and pluck – 🙂

      • September 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM

        “continuing to [support] her and her products”

      • Honnie Badger
        September 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM

        Yes, Jeannie! I had said the exact same sentiments about this before. Nice to know I’m in GREAT company as you! And yes, I also agree that Ms. Wine Not is a terrific soul! 🙂

      • September 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

        Agree with you jeannie about everything except the deportation thing. We have repeat drug traffickers, child-molesters, etc here in Florida and they never get deported. If they deported Juicy to Italy for jail it would be good for him. He would be making the warden’s wine for six months and then set free.

        • September 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM

          LOL – I bet he makes a great red wine!!!

          On a serious note, I hope you are right – I truly do. It would be a tragedy for the family. How heartbreaking for those beautiful girls. Although, in rethinking that, maybe the whole family, the Sr.s included, could just move to Italy and start anew. Could be the best thing that ever happened to them. Anyway, crossing all my fingers and toes it doesn’t happen.

  52. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 23, 2013 at 2:00 AM

    Watching the rerun here late in the Wee…I see more of what the updated blog is about now but still can’t quit lmao! 🙂 I think Teresa licks her lips when she goes “scripted.” (Sorry if mentioned before, not sure if this is an original thought.) 🙂 My fave giggles are giving the nod to all the years of accusations of Melissa lip synching…followed by the radio station footage of her LIP SYNCHING! snort!

    I came away from this more sure than ever that there will be a huge cast shake up next Season. I think BRAVO will be pi$$ed that they’ve had to do all this editing. And the ratings keep dropping and the products continue not to sell….

    • mzjulesaz
      September 23, 2013 at 2:11 AM

      Tre’s product sell .. just saying

      • Spaghetti Kitten
        September 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM

        Yes..sorry I wasn’t clear that I was posting about all of them BUT Teresa mzjules.

        I’m in the running for the pook (maybe 2nd place…c;mon Mon nite football!)

        • Spaghetti Kitten
          September 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM

          football POOL….grrrr need more coffee!

        • mzjulesaz
          September 23, 2013 at 4:18 PM

          What is the pook? Sorry, but I’m football stupid.

    • September 23, 2013 at 9:05 AM

      ROL has an article up: http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/09/real-housewives-new-jersey-secret-bravo-contract-exposes-reality-tv-shows-really-made-documents/. I hope the link works. Beware: ROLIES doesn’t always tell the truth, though!

      • September 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM

        Thanks for sharing this as this is a MUST READ. Everyone should click on your link and read the article. A link to the actual contract is here:

        http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/rhnj5-appearance-5pgb.pdf

        If that doesn’t work, the five page document can be accessed through a link within the article.

        Like I said before, anyone who would sign a contract like this is either an idiot or was not in their right mind when doing so. One literally signs away their complete rights to their personal and private life.

        If this is the contract for some one who is UNPAID, can you imagine what is in the castmembers’ contracts. Nuts – completely nuts!!!!

    • September 23, 2013 at 12:02 PM

      That’s a great observation, SK! She picked up that habit late last season, I think. She’s been doing it alot in season 5. So when she licks her lips it means she’s on script – an “acting” quirk.

      • kayswhims
        September 23, 2013 at 12:33 PM

        Excessive blinking is also a bad habit in acting;

        4) Blink, Blink, Blink

        Blink normally! Obviously, you’ll discover this applies more to on-camera than to stage acting, but excessive blinking is worse than distracting–it hides the two greatest windows into your character’s soul. Again, it’s often a nervous habit, but it’s a bad one. http://dearingstudio.com/improv/7-bad-habits-of-a-beginner-actor/

  53. Sackem
    September 23, 2013 at 5:36 AM

    The sound mix on the ep I just watched, Kathy’s visit to Dylan’ Candy shop, is appaling!!!
    On a lighter not, my boyfriend Juicy had me in stitches when talking about IVF “Do I have eggs?”

    • September 23, 2013 at 9:07 AM

      Yeah that was pretty funny! Rosie didn’t know if he had eggs, did she?

  54. Error404
    September 23, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    Hi Fame,
    long time lurker here.
    I am sorry, but you said you are not in a legal predicament, correct? I ask because it does not make sense that you would delete posts that are the purpose of this blog. let’s pretend like you are Penny or John as some people think, so what if you were. All of your posts were done by the Famewhores actions and behaviors displayed by them. If you had a source tell you information, you always would state it was a source.

    I enjoy your blogs.

    • Have2Say
      September 23, 2013 at 10:32 AM

      my thoughts as well. This site shut down, as did SH and Faux and now Penny’s blog is blacked out and we have a revised ending to RHNJ. Obviously Bravo didn’t give us viewers enough credit to connect the timeline dots and detect the crappy cut & pasting that was taking place. Very sad that Teresa is getting the bum for all this. What a good employee she is. I’m sure she is being forced to make her cameo on WWHL next week as Ms. Andy will want to milk it for all it’s worth before her contract expires. There’s a book here somewhere…. and I for one sure as hell hope Teresa puts it out once all this is said and done.

      • September 23, 2013 at 10:43 AM

        It’s a book Teresa will never be able to write according to her contract.

  55. Monique
    September 23, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    I almost vomit with all the fakeness that took place last night. Her whole singing on the radio with everyone listening saying “OMG! She sounds so good!” With the lying lizard Rich saying “I feel like I should be drinking to this song!” Yeah so your ears can go numb and you can lie to yourself that Melissa sounds like Whitney Houston. Her vocal coaching was the key that she can’t see PERIOD. Then Joe saying “OMG! My wife is going to be a star!!!”. I’m really confused when it comes to the Greeks. They sat there and said Teresa was the one that gave them all this info but now their saying that that’s not true and everything is scripted? Now I believe that what Johnny said about Nick is untrue and I wonder who made up that disgusting lie but when it comes to the stuff that they supposedly heard from Teresa because she was giving them the info I believe they are lying their asses off. If they had heard about Melissa not coming to see her father in law they probably heard that from Kim D. because she was the one that brought that into surface at Gia’s birthday party. I honestly think that Kim D. has more to do with it. I think they all need to leave Kim D. alone because if The Greeks was getting info I know it was from Kim D.

    • Monique
      September 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      sing* not see. Darn autocorrect.

  56. Monique
    September 23, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Also–Did anyone hear about Melissa being livid with Kathy Lee Giffords because she questioned the paternity of her kids? They were saying that Bravo wants Kathy Lee to apologize.

    • Debbie J
      September 23, 2013 at 10:50 AM

      Monique I actually watched that interview it was interesting to say the least. The statement from Kathy was “and all three are Joe’s?” Melissa response was “of course”. She looked upset with the question.

      • September 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        Yeah when I read the article they said that Melissa played it off like she wasn’t bothered by her question but they said when she walked off the set she really upset and they said Bravo was supposedly very upset w/ Kathy Lee because she was “out of line” and they want her to make a public apology. LOL!!! I was like who the hell is Melissa anyway? Just Teresa’s sister in law. She’s no star, she’s no pop singer, she’s no author… She’s just a talentless person that has one talent which is swinging a pole. Her and her husband are OPPORTUNISTS! That’s all their ever be. After this season I think I may be done w/ this show.

        • eriekah
          September 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM

          Didnt Kathy Lee say ‘ well I’m a reporter i have to ask’? Or something to that effect? IMO it was a rumor about MeHo so KLG was doing her job. MeHo does not deserve a public apology. I cant stand this MeHo chic. She really truly believes she somebody special. The only thing that woman has is beautiful children! Nothing more!

          • September 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM

            IMO, Melissa is loving every minute of this! TSIL is a carbon copy of my younger sister and I bet TSIL loves having “her” lawyer’s trying to “protect” the defenseless, innocent TSIL! I did watch the KLG interview and both KLG and Hoda (I think that is her name) seemed to be mocking TSIL! Laughing at her right in her face! The paternity question was a bit odd but I assumed it was asked because of the cheating storyline that is going on right now? Jan Marie’s interview about TSIL cheating around the time she got pregnant with her third child didn’t help matters, either. I really believe TSIL did have a “fling” at the Sushi Lounge. With that being said TSIL should have stayed true to her vows and she probably wouldn’t be asked question’s like that. To ask for an apology now from KLG would make things worse for TSIL. I can see KLG explaining why she asked the question, which TSIL wouldn’t like, and then apologizing with attitude! So, TSIL better think twice about asking for an apology! What happened to TSIL reminded me of “Speidi” (Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag from “The Hills”). They were interviewed by Al Roker who was rude to the egotistical couple. They both played came across as “sweet” during the interview but made a fuss with the media afterwards! Al Roker just laughed at them! So, TSIL is better off leaving well enough alone!

            • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
              September 23, 2013 at 9:37 PM

              If an apology is order it should come from the producers, not KLG…KLG doesn’t get to decide the questions. Still, it was out of line to ask her that…it adds nothing to the discussion.

              • September 24, 2013 at 9:06 AM

                KLG did apologize to Martin Short, on air, after asking him about his deceased wife. So, KLG does apologize for the producer’s odd question’s at times.

  57. September 23, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    With the brawl being aired this coming Sunday, interesting irony here:

    The Lauritas and Joe Gorga are scheduled to appear in court to answer to the assault and terroristic attack charges for allegedly attacking JTG, this coming Thursday, September 26th.

    • September 23, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      The brawl is going to air? I didn’t watch.

  58. September 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    • Debbie J
      September 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM

      Gessie – agreed!!!

  59. Honnie Badger
    September 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    For someone who is supposed to be a professional hair artist, Penny has the worst, rattiest, custard-colored extensions on the planet. She would look so much more appealing if she rocked shorter, more age-appropriate hair. She is not a good advertisement for her business, IMO.

    • mzjulesaz
      September 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM

      Agree!

      • September 23, 2013 at 11:56 AM

        She looks like an old hooker. let’s be honest.

    • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
      September 23, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      I remember back in the day when you had really bad service and you wanted to make sure the server knew it, you didn’t stiff him on the tip, you left him a penny. She reminds me of the tip.

  60. Miami53
    September 23, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG…I just watched last night’s episode and I can’t believe how they showed that radio station fiasco…Unbelievable…we all know how she really sang that song. Then to show after they know we’ve all heard her real voice. I really hate this show!!!

  61. September 23, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    I wasn’t going to watch last night’s episode. But I did. Now I know exactly how Fame feels. What a waste of time it is to put the truth out there week after week, when it seems as if the participants willingly destroy their own lives by volunteering to be exploited in the worst possible way. And yet, more people line up to jump on the gravy-less train on a weekly basis. At a certain point, we become the fools.

    • Miami53
      September 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      I so agree with what you said…”we are the fools”. Terese was my favorite but now…..they are all just a bunch of actors who probably discussed with each other what they are going to say and do. I had so loved this show but when the 39 counts came down….I am having different views than before. We all kept saying who does that to family especially the christening and other things…that’s why they can do that…they all are just playing a role and a nice pay check to boot!

      • kayswhims
        September 23, 2013 at 4:20 PM

        It broke my heart when Teresa cried at the book signing infront of her brother. If that was acting, she deserves somekind of award. I have only one brother and he is my baby brother so it touched me to see Teresa cry.

        With NBC Universal and it’s broad reach, and their Reality show contracts, I am begining to wonder if anything dealing with this show is real including legal issues. I don’t know these people or the people that know them. Kim G going on and on about Danny and IMD has a list of things he acted in and produced and wrote. He is not a thug. He has more acting experience than any of them.

    • September 23, 2013 at 2:03 PM

      I don’t know if your interested in this, Gessie, but Penelope Pittstop has another blog out! She explained that she was arguing with Tre except it was about Penny and TSIL bringing up her father’s name! Penny also said that she was unaware that TSIL had told Tre that Penny was blaming Tre for everything about the cheating allegations. So, Penny was unaware that Tre was upset with her, too. Penny said that Jaq did confront her and Penny told her that she or her husband would never say anything bad about a child! Penny clarified that she told Jaq the she once taught autistic children and that it was edited to come out as, “I teach autism” to make her look bad! I’m telling you the main points, sorry, but her blog is interesting. I wonder if Penny is the one who gave ROL the copy of the Siren’s contract?

      What did you think of Victoria Gotti? I thought when Tre was sitting at the table with her hat on that it was Penny who she was waiting on! I was glad that Victoria Gotti made an appearance as Tre’s friend. I’m sure their meeting is going to get blown out of proportion since we all know who Victoria’s dad is! To me it showed that Tre does have other friends than the one’s on TV! I bet TSIL was salvitating and wishing Victoria was her friend. She was probably thinking of ways to take her away from Tre!

  62. September 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    How in the world, if B/S (that would be Bravo/Sirens, better known as Bull/Sh*t) has written in the contracts they have control over everything these people do “until perpetuity”, and as Fame wrote up thread ( “According to sources, the Sirens Media contract (the producers of RHONJ) provides that producers “may edit, dub, delete, or fabricate footage.” It actually uses the word fabricate.”), which pretty much means totalitarian control including, apparently whether or not they take a poop, are they able to shill this sh*t as a “Reality” show.

    Using the word “fabricate” within a contract for a “reality” show really jumps out at me. In my mind, that use clearly shows intent to take the viewers where the producers want to and not necessarily show the truth of any given situation unless it works with the bogus “storyline” they are trying to create. And the castmembers, given these ridiculous contracts they have signed, can do absolutely nothing about it.

    “FABRICATE”
    fab·ri·cate
    /ˈfabrəˌkāt/ -verb

    1. invent or concoct (something), typically with deceitful intent.
    “officers fabricated evidence”
    2. invent, make up
    “he fabricated research data”
    3. concoct, make up, dream up, invent, trump up;
    “fabricating a pack of lies”

    synonyms: falsify, fake, counterfeit, cook

    This is not reality – and it really is “a pack of lies”. It is very disturbing that the general public, not knowing what we know, buys into this and believes it hook, line, and sinker. I would venture to say that it is probably common practice for mostly all “reality” shows on television these days.

    Now we know why the castmembers “made up” and are all “in a good place”. Why they went out on the press junkets, promoting Season 5 as a united front and why they are still saying “everything is good” between them, which we all know is not the case. They are saying these things because they HAVE to It’s written in their contracts – they have to promote the show into the direction the production company wants it to go and keep perpetuating it – being the good employees they all are.

    I would imagine with each year passing and the renewal of contracts (I believe these contracts are annual – just my opinion), the contracts have become more and more stringent and restrictive. This may explain why others in the past have been able to get out and go off on their own and why Danielle was tweeting just days ago that she may write a book about the behind the scenes of RHONJ. Her contract back when she signed up may have been constructed differently and been a bit “looser”, if you will, than what the contracts are today.

    The general public has definitely been punked and they will continue to be as long as B/S keeps these contracts so freakin’ restrictive and air tight. The leverage is on B/S’s side and certainly makes the castmembers their puppets.

    • Miami53
      September 23, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      Right on, Jeannie!!!

    • September 23, 2013 at 12:39 PM

      Hey Jeannie, the tip I got was that the contract included the word “fabricate.” But the quote in the RO story says, “fictionalize.” I haven’t read the actual contract that RO links too, so perhaps “fabricate” is in there.

      • September 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM

        The word “fictionalize” is even worse and more troubling to me than the word “fabricate” when placed in a contract for a “reality” show. That word admits the producers have even more leverage and wiggle room to blatantly out and out LIE about what was really filmed.

        “FICTION”
        fic·tion (fkshn), noun
        1.a. An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented.
        b. The act of inventing such a creation or pretense.

        2. A lie.

        3.a. A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.

        b. The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.

        4. Law Something untrue that is intentionally represented as true by the narrator.

        • September 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM

          Thank you, Fame for pointing that out. I just read the contract very carefully – the word “fabricate” does not appear; it is the word “fictionalize”, which in my mind is even worse:

          “The rights granted herein shall also include the right to edit, delete, dub and fictionalize the Footage and Materials, the Program, and the Advertisements as Producer sees fit in Producer’s sole discretion.”

          http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/rhnj5-appearance-5pgb.pdf

          It brings me back to my original rhetorical question: How is it possible B/S can pass these shows off as “reality” when the contract point blank makes it clear they have the right to twist and use any Materials (footage, blogs/vlogs, advertisements, etc.) in any manner they deem beneficial to their ultimate goal, i.e. plain and simple, LIE to the general public, portray the finished product as TRUTH, and have the castmembers, paid and unpaid, perpetuate the charade.

  63. Miami53
    September 24, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    Why would any parent(s) sign these contracts knowing they can “fictionalize” anything…I think years from now they are going to have many regrets. The only thing I can think of is the almighty dollar.

  64. Kay
    • Sharon
      September 26, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      Thank you to the gals who are posting it to Bravo’s RHONJ and Melissa Gorga pages.

  65. Goozy Girl
    September 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Thank you Fame and everyone for all your prayers and well wishes. The beautiful soul that is my father passed a few hours later surrounded by his wife and all his children (but one who is away in the UK.) He was 84 years old, he lived a life of service to The Lord until he was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s 9 years ago. Mother took care of him with great love and devotion, she is an amazing woman. He gave me the pet name Goozy girl from when I was very little. I love and miss you Papa, I know you are in a better place.

    • September 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM

      So sorry for your loss. I will continue to pray for you and your family.

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