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Danielle Staub Would Give Melissa Gorga a Run for Her Money If She Returned to RHONJ – Danielle Outs Melissa on WWHL

September 8, 2013

WWHL Update 9/9/2013: Danielle was shown clips of what the current Housewives said about her during their appearances on WWHL. The following are her comments after watching each clip.

On Caroline saying that if she could take back a moment on the show, it would be her meeting with Danielle, because she was mean to her – she called her a clown:

That would be the moment? The clown moment? Really?! I’m not buying it. But thank you.

On Teresa feeling an alliance with Danielle, in hindsight:

I love Teresa. I have absolutely no problems with Teresa. I really feel like she was probably stuck in between friendship and a kinship with a family that she’s known for the better part of her life and in trying to create a friendship with me. I think she was manipulated by a lot by them. Like she said, I did know things but it’s not my place. I know things about all of them. It’s not my place. In time, everyone exposes themselves – I think I said that. And I do truly believe that she feels remorse. I felt her heart when she was just speaking, and I believe it. I believe her.

On Jacqueline saying Danielle stalks her and says horrible things about her:

I think she needs to put the wine away and possibly seek help for that. I have not been around her. I haven’t tweeted, I haven’t talked. If you wanna check timelines – the internet, you can’t erase it – we all know that. We all have regrets on that. And I think that probably she might possibly be the worst example of somebody creating a truth. You know, I moved on from her the moment that she showed me her true colors. And I did genuinely hug her goodbye (at the end of the season 2 reunion special) because I felt like we had a relationship at one time, and I felt bad for her because I knew she was again caught in between family and friendship. But, in time, after that, when I thought that we were just going to move on from it, I would just read just horrific things on Twitter, and I just knew then that was just never going to be someone that I could move on from.

On Melissa saying Danielle in-boxed her on Facebook about the sprinkle cookies and that she never met her in person:

Well, the one truth in there is that we did never meet; however, it was because I wouldn’t allow that to happen. She wanted to film during season 2, and she thought it would be a good way to get back at Teresa. And I said I wanted absolutely nothing to do with that, however, I would forward all her e-mails, which were a lot, to the producers, which I did. Which is how, after two seasons of her being behind the scenes – on camera but behind the scenes – she all the sudden became a person of interest and that’s how she landed on the show. Um, I think that it would be good for her to just come clean. I wanted nothing to do with what she wanted to do to Teresa. It’s not my place. I don’t play with that. Karma has a return policy and it isn’t an exchange.

It would be an interesting battle between Danielle Staub and Melissa Gorga if Danielle were to return to the show. The following are things that Danielle and Melissa have/had in common:

  • Both did not like Teresa Giudice
  • Both tried to launch music careers
  • Both wrote memoirs
  • Both were exotic dancers
  • Both tried same sex relationships

In May 2010, when her memoir, “The Naked Truth,” hit book shelves, Danielle went on a national book tour, the same thing that Melissa will be doing when her memoir hits shelves on September 17, 2013.

Danielle would have something to say to Melissa about her friendship with Kim G – Melissa and Kathy were buddies with Kim G in season 3 (Kim G was ousted from the show early that season).

In an interview with PopEater in June 2010 (video below), Danielle said she is not the reason Dina left the show, plus she commented about Teresa “pretending that she’s rich.” And about all her RHONJ castmates, Danielle said:

“In me, they have all seen a little piece of them. Those women completely broke my spirit.”

Bravo recently ran a marathon of past seasons of RHONJ, and fans went on Twitter to express their support for Danielle. Many pointed out the spa party at Danielle’s home in season 1 episode 3 (“Not One of Us”) where, during Botox injections and lip plumping, Dina threw some zingers at Danielle, for which she apologized in her Bravo blog for the episode (also read Danielle, Jacqueline, Caroline, and Teresa’s Bravo blogs for the episode). The following are some of those tweets and Danielle’s replies.

Keri Lewis ‏@Caseylew 30 Aug
@daniellestaub BEST wishes for your upcoming WWHL appearance. Please sing again? I really thought you had the best voice of ANY RHW ever!

Keri Lewis ‏@Caseylew 30 Aug
@daniellestaub I was watching the TBT old episodes–SERIOUSLY, you got picked on. ALL STARTED w/DINA. You never had a chance & you tried!!

danielle staub ‏@daniellestaub 30 Aug
@Caseylew thank you for that … Very perceptive and accurate

Keri Lewis ‏@Caseylew 30 Aug
@daniellestaub So glad @Bravotv aired it all again. Enlightening in hindsight…You were an outsider and I believe you were sincerely trying

Keri Lewis ‏@Caseylew 31 Aug
@jlisas777 @daniellestaub Watch how Dina treated Danielle when Danielle tried to start over and sincerely tried to be friends. It’s gross.

danielle staub ‏@daniellestaub
@Caseylew @jlisas777 Keri I cannot thank you enough for pointing out these things #gratitude #lovenlightds
11:45 AM – 31 Aug 13

lauren marie ‏@lau1220 30 Aug
@Caseylew @daniellestaub agreed it was like the movie mean girls

Sue Cohen ‏@plainviewsue 30 Aug
@Caseylew @daniellestaub I still feel in my gut it was Jacqueline who told Danielle everything about Dina. J wanted to bring Dina down. IMO!

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During the same interview with PopEater, there is a clip of Danielle singing live (“Real Close,” featuring Lori Michaels) on WWHL.

In 2010, after leaving RHONJ (reports say she wasn’t invited back for season 3), Danielle backed out of a three-year contract to dance at the gentlemen’s club Scores and was sued for $375,000 by the establishment in May 2011. However, a judge ruled in favor of Danielle, stating that because the contract was “vague,” it didn’t hold up in a court of law. The judge also stated that Scores failed to show why Danielle had a “legal obligation to continue working for the gentlemen’s club after taking a $25,000 payment to perform in a stripper video in 2010.” The New York Daily News reported the following:

The reality star is being sued for allegedly breaking their agreement, which required not only an appearance at the Manhattan location, but also on the company’s site ScoresLive.com. Photos of 48-year-old Staub lounging around in various states of undress and working a stripper pole began circulating earlier this week. Shortly after, she revealed to People that she has “addictions with love and low self-esteem.” The former “Real Housewives of New Jersey” cast member told the magazine she had “walked away” from the three-year Scores deal, which she had allegedly been “coaxed” into, and planned to seek psychological help. But a lawsuit, reportedly filed in April, claims Staub was paid $25,000 upfront for a November video shoot – which led to the aforementioned pictures recently released – but then didn’t follow through on any of the other requirements of the deal.

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During an interview with HLN in August 2011 (video below), Danielle talked about her thoughts of suicide after season 2 of RHONJ:

“This reality television is something we sign on for, but when it becomes extremely gang related and brutal towards even one person, and you’re pointed out as that person, I can understand that feeling, I related to it and I emphasize with everything that they’re all going through [referencing the cast of RHOBH and Russell Armstrong’s suicide].” The interviewer asked if she considered it group bullying, to which Danielle replied: “It really had nothing to do with production or the network, in my experience. It was my cast, wanting to live out their lies of a life through dragging up things that I did as a child and then making that into the entire storyline. And not only that, embellishing it, defaming me, demeaning me, making me feel like I was a lesser important person than them. Calling me – names do hurt sometimes – you know, garbage. I, I, I don’t associate with people like that. And I felt like having my children around that negative experience (interviewer interrupts). My thoughts of suicide were results of the way my cast treated me. And as a result of the way my cast treated me, and then them dragging up my past from when I was a child, younger than their children, um, that put me into some very dark places, which I had already surpassed and already survived.”

Danielle told People magazine in May 2011 that she walked away after her stripping appearance at Scores and is seeking treatment for psychological problems rooted in childhood sexual abuse.

“I have addictions with love and low self-esteem, and I need help!” Staub, 48, says after photos of her dancing nude at Scores in New York appeared on the Internet. “My low self-esteem derived from childhood sexual abuse has messed with my mind and self-worth, and over the years I thought about getting help but pushed it deep into the depths of denial,” she says. “For years I have had the suicide hotline on my cell phone and would like nothing more than to free myself from this constant pressure. “Seeing how I have hurt myself and my family this time,” she continues, “I can no longer push it behind me.” Staub says she was “coaxed” into signing the appearance with Scores by her past handlers, but adds, “I have to own my mistakes and can’t blame others.” She says she has since “walked away” from the deal.

Melissa and Kathy snarked on Danielle in the video below.

On September 3, 2012, Andy Cohen teased fans on Twitter by hinting that Danielle would be making an appearance during season 5. A FW source said that Danielle and Teresa met on March 10, 2013, and may have taped a scene together – perhaps Danielle and Teresa apologized to each other, agreeing to put the past behind them.

Danielle Staub will be Andy Cohen’s guest on WWHL after the premiere of RHONJ season 5 episode 15 on September 8, 2013.

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“I was watching the RHONJ episode 15 on the second run before WWHL, and during a commercial break for RHONJ, Andy came on with Danielle promoting WWHL: Andy said that it was going to be live and Danielle said that that was the only way she would agree to do the show. I think it was so that (1) her words wouldn’t get edited, and (2) so she could put him on the spot by asking him that question about her being fired versus her leaving on her own free will.” [Nancy, September 9, 2013, Fame-Whorgas]

Some other episodes of WWHL with Danielle Staub:

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  1. Anonymous
    September 8, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    That old hammer could give anyone A run 4 their money,then she would take ur money !!

  2. RHOFW
    September 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    At the time of Danielle being on the show I thought she was crazy, but at least she wasn’t malicious and backstabbing like the Forga’s. Danielle only wanted to befriend these people and they treated her like a POS (although it seems T done it through loyalty & Crack-O-Jac was forced to hate)

    Bring her back and watch Roidy’s Ho-Good wife squirm!

    • elle
      September 8, 2013 at 6:27 PM

      Oh I think there was a certain degree of malice exhibited when she used information she had obtained against Teresa for instance during the season 2 reunion. It doesn’t matter if the information turned out to be false, she thought it was true and used it as a weapon of sorts.

      • RHOFW
        September 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM

        After 2 seasons of being ganged up on (kinda like T), Danielle fought back with what she thought was some “inside information” and she used it trying to hurt others like she felt she had been hurt.

        • September 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM

          Even Danielle understands now that Teresa’s only motive was being loyal to Caroline, Dina and Jac. Seriously, Danielle knew many things about all of them yet she only defies Teresa? Teresa wasn’t enemy #1. Danielle stated that she wouldn’t consider doing what Melissa was requesting because she wouldn’t do that to Teresa, yet she kinda did. Everyone else got off scott free. The same old pattern.

  3. Jeannie5233
    September 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    That gif of Danielle is so funny – she does the seal clap even better than Paula Abdul!!

  4. Jeannie5233
    September 8, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    I know Danielle is wackadoodle (thanks mzjules – my grandsons think that word is soooo funny!!) and has some mighty big major issues (though now I am beginning to rethink why she felt she needed bodyguards) but I, for one, would watch her over TSIL, TB, Smelly Kat, and Retched any day of the week!!

    • RHOFW
      September 8, 2013 at 3:08 PM

      LOL as soon as I read that – Smelly Kat, Smelly Kat, what are they feeding you? Popped in my head.

    • September 8, 2013 at 4:30 PM

      Ditto! I felt bad for her as she was so desperate for friendship and to be accepted. Then the whole book thing, which while interesting and a WOW moment, she owned it unlike Mel. I do think she is a wackadoodle, but she raised some beautiful daughters.

      • elle
        September 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

        Well, I think the proportion of wackadoodle to evil and then that to good traits makes the difference among all of us. Unfortunately some don’t fall heavy on the redeeming features side of the scale.

      • September 8, 2013 at 6:52 PM

        She’s nuttier than a pet coon but she has raised some beautiful, and seemingly good, daughters.

        • September 8, 2013 at 7:07 PM

          That being said though, if I had lived the life she had lived then had it dredged up, on a damned show, no less, I’d be nuts too. What they did to her was cruel. She was obviously not all together emotionally and they just kept pick, pick, picking at her. I’m pretty sure I would have snapped.

          • ihateandy
            September 8, 2013 at 8:42 PM

            Also she didn’t take revenge on her enemies in a malicious cruel way. Accusing someone of being broke on the RHONJ scale of things isn’t all that brutal.

            • September 8, 2013 at 10:56 PM

              Very true. I don’t think she was or is evil. I shouldn’t make light of her mental / emotional issues. Shame on me. What the network did to her was cruel. They should have gotten her some help and kept at least some of that off of our screen. I don’t think Danielle was strong enough emotionally to handle all of that and they should consider themselves damned lucky she didn’t harm herself.

              • Jack Hole
                September 9, 2013 at 7:52 AM

                I agree Bree. After watching her on WWHL last night, I am like, I really “get it” now. She was being tortured publicly and talked about, disgraced and treated like a second class citizen…no wonder she was going bonkers…I really do get it ( I was reminded of her behavior during the throw backs the past month or so and it was just like, woah woah woah!!) But listening to her last night—breath of fresh air!!! And I am glad ANDY LET THE TRUTH COME OUT!!!!!

                He is preparing to villianize the Gorgas for sure.,,and rightfully so!

          • charok
            September 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM

            i know i would have snapped if i was in her shoes

            • September 8, 2013 at 10:58 PM

              Me too Charo… And I am guilty of forgetting that these are real people with real emotions. I know they all signed up for this, but I don’t think any of them could have predicted how any of this would have played out.

              • Patricia
                September 9, 2013 at 12:17 AM

                the whole trying to get Dina’s kid taken away,, because Dina signed the paperwork instead of the father… Did Danielle bring that out, or did someone else and blame it on Danielle. “sounds like a Jacko MO”. Didn’t like the way she got ganged up on choosing using that book.

                • September 9, 2013 at 8:48 AM

                  Danielle explains that in the video I posted around the 1:00 mark. Dina’s ex sister in law was a friend of Danielle for a long time.

          • Deb G
            September 9, 2013 at 3:19 PM

            Bree, I agree they bullied her and very cruel. Her daughters are beautiful and seem to be nice young ladies!! More then I can say for the manzo babies!!!

            • Laura Catherine
              September 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM

              i agree hah lauren had to have surgery to lose weight and her sons are just ugly….albie is kinda cute but when he ages…no and chris just ugh

  5. Jack Hole
    September 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    I think she would definitely give Messy a run for her money and she would be the perfect person to go up against her!! I think Danielle is cray, but I would love to see the Gorgas fall!!!!!! I do agree that she was only trying to fit in and was really shunned, but then she got really unstable during S2 ( I will never forget the stalking of the Manzo party or the party she threw for her daughter that the HWs didn’t show up at…) then again, thinking back, some of that could have been producer initiated…? Who knows??!!

    • September 8, 2013 at 6:53 PM

      Some of it could have been, but she’s still bat shit crazy.

      • ihateandy
        September 8, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        I agree. I just watched Danielle on WEndy Williams after I watched the youtube links Fame added. Have you seen it? I kinda cringed when she owns her ‘fast’ and colorful past. Am I old fashioned? I just don’t like ppl gloating about their sexual conquests or their sexuality or defining themselves and self worth based on looks and body shape. And I esp dislike it when ppl retort “oh your just jealous and you wish you looked or had that experience?” Uh no! I just don’t think its appropiate.

        • Jack Hole
          September 8, 2013 at 10:54 PM

          Yeah, see that is a lot of it that gets a little T.M.I., over the top, doing too much for me—it was all sex sex sex with her! And no doubt to be her age and have those looks, I mean, the woman is ageless(she’s gotta be what? 54?) To look like that at her age IS something to be proud of but she lacks the tact in discussing it. I think they have all lacked tact at one time or another and , for now glaringly obvious reasons, her and Teresa are the only ones that get called on it. I was glad to see the throw backs to remind me of what really went down.

          Some one said it (up thread I think?) Teresa was starting to go against her (or towards the crowd, you can look at that either way) because her presence was very intense and hyper-sexual. She made them feel uncomfortable as married (supposed to be classy) women. I get it (she was the single friend messing up the dynamic) and I do NOT condone or agree with how she was treated. But weirdly, in the same sense that I “get” why the women would have been totally offended by the bathing suit fashion show in Punta Cana, I get why Danielle would have made them all uncomfortable.

          I think it got so intense between her and Teresa because Teresa being the “outsider” of the original cast was a safer target than the (as we now know) mob connected Manzo clan.
          I still kick around the idea that Bravo let Teresa in on the fact that she was in the role as villain and that SOME of the comments and issues against her she knows about…Andy saw how looney ( and legal) Danielle got, wouldn’t it make sense that he air on the side of caution and tell them all to bone up on their light acting skills?

          • September 8, 2013 at 11:04 PM

            I think a lot of that is what turned me off of Danielle as well. She was creepy and weird too. But that makes me think even more that she needed help, not to have it splashed all over our TVs.

        • September 9, 2013 at 12:04 AM

          I haven’t watched her on Wendy Williams or in any of the clips above, but I do remember Danielle being very proud of her sex life and I agree, it’s not cute. I think it had a lot to do with her emotional instability though.

          • ihateandy
            September 9, 2013 at 9:26 PM

            YEAH

          • ihateandy
            September 9, 2013 at 9:33 PM

            Ooops! I pressed return before I finished my response! lol. I just was going to say that that is why I was conflicted with Danielle. I saw she was ganged upon in hindsight and sympathised but also remembered her sexual prowess and her gloating on her looks (I am same as as Caroline and look better stuff) and that guy she met online and stuff like that. THEN we see her lovely kids and she did raise them well. So there is a huge disconnect for me there. But I will say, she was reflective and owned some of her issues.
            Bree you have a good point, her emotional instability is apparent and I also think it was apparent to Bravo. I think they exploited her (reality shows do employ psychologists so they know what they are playing with, which is sickening..) But if she hung out with that dodgy guy, it might indicate how scared she was. Her hint on WWHL was interesting how she said there was a Mafia connection, so her response was to get ‘adequate backup’ and came up with the dodgy guy on parole. (I forget his name).

  6. military wife and proud of it
    September 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    would be exciting to see danielle tell all, on messy, kathy,caroline and the wack job. but as isual teresa would get blamed.

  7. September 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Since first publishing this blog a few hours ago, I added some more links, interviews and commentary, so I encourage everyone whose read it once to read it again.

    And if Danielle is reading this blog, I’d like her to know that many have rooted for her to rise up from this experience with humility and a renewed sense of self worth. I hope that she is as frank and honest as possible on WWHL tonight, without being self-absorbed, entitled, vain, shallow, vapid and cocky, like most reality TV stars.

    Plus, I think Danielle has a lovely voice, and she doesn’t need autotune!

    • September 8, 2013 at 11:06 PM

      I hadn’t read all of those before I posted my rude comments…

  8. parkview
    September 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    I wonder…since we have been told that Messy gave Monica Chacon the papers and info needed to start the ball rolling on the massive Giudice investigation, was Danielle involved? It would have been right about the same time Messy began contacting Danielle. Possibly Danielle declined involvement, but Im guessing she knows how it transpired, at least. Surely Danielle knows the depth of Messys involvement. I know most people think the Giudices should get what they deserve and I agree. But would any of those people be ok about it if THEIR family member started the investigation? Would you expect to have a couple of drinks at your brothers house, start driving home, and have your sister in law call the police to report a drunk driver? Lets not forget that JoGo was involved with the same group of scammers until he screwed them and they wouldnt deal with him anymore.

    • xjrsygrl7733
      September 9, 2013 at 8:16 AM

      It all makes sense if you think about it. Messy told Danielle that Teresa’s house was in forclosure. Mel then denied ever talking to Danielle but then backtracked when DS brought out the proof. Mel said she didn’t know Monica or KimG but they were at her party & when confronted Mel backtracked again & said Oh yeah I did meet you before. And if you look through KimG’s tweets, interviews & posts you will see that Kim had a whole lot of info on the Giudices. Some of it was the same info Danielle had been told about Teresa from Melissa. Where did KimG & Monica get that info if it wasn’t from Melissa? Danielle didn’t even talk to KimG anymore during the time Melissa was contacting Danielle. And then you see Melissa with Monica & KimG during season 3 several times. Melissa did indeed already know Monica & KimG before she came on the show! All the crumbs point to one person being the source of all the info out about the Giudices & it’s MELISSA!

  9. September 8, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    I always wanted to know what Danielle did to Caroline, now I know.

  10. military wife and proud of it
    September 8, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    granny pants kim sounds like cheap gossip, bragging about what she has. glad i don’t have friends like her, at least ones i have,i could tell secrets to. no wonder this old hag can’t get a date,

    • elle
      September 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM

      I always get the feeling she’s going for an Unsinkable Molly Brown vibe but doesn’t quite make it due to that nasty streak she has exhibited.

    • September 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      After the watching Kim G. stab Danielle in the back I’m surprised she has any friends!

  11. military wife and proud of it
    September 8, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    melissa, caroline and kathy should be last people to talk. your day is coming too. caroline, if you get your own show,you’ll lose all of us teresa fans, so don’t expected show to be picked up again.messy you can’t sing or write books . kathy you are just plain boring with perverted husband. wacko.better hide your heels, buy pinstripes and get sober.

  12. charok
    September 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    wow i really feel for danielle after reading she was ( suicidal feeling) especially after getting “ganged up on” – that is one demon i have wrestled and kept at bay ever since i was a child. i have to also applaud her for owning her low self esteem and she needed help she mentioned in one of the above “blue quote boxes”. everyone says she has beautiful, well mannered children she had to have done something right?

    • September 8, 2013 at 7:57 PM

      Her daughter’s are nothing like Ashlee, Laureen or Victoria! All three of those girls seem to get too involved in their momma’s grown up drama! Victoria is going to college but she has an “I’m an entitled brat!” attitude!

  13. September 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    What is going on with Danielle? At one point she was going to strip for Scores, so she must have been desperate for money. How has she been supporting herself? She def got the villain edit, and I admit I thought she was terrible, because back then I was a Bravo sheep. Not realizing that Bravo liked to make and break people. Interesting that anther Bravo victim at one point felt suicidal because of how they were treated.

  14. qb
    September 8, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Danielle was treat badly by the Manzos! She did nothing wrong. If you look back at season 2 of RHONJ, You could tell that Teresa was following the lead of Caroline and co.

    Caroline was so threaten by Danielle that she admitted in a deposition that she told Andy Cohen that she and the others would walk if Danielle wasn’t fired. It was on a website but Bravo had them remove it.

    Danielle was always THE TRUTH on RHONJ!

    • Sue
      September 8, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      Oh good, maybe Carolyn and a few others will really quit but oh…..they really need the pay checks. hahaha

  15. LifeIsGood
    September 8, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    I’ve always thought that Danielle was treated poorly. But she also gave as good as she got – she was no angel. However, now that I’ve seen how bravo twisted things with Teresa, I have no doubt that Danielle was never going to receive a fair shot on this show.

    I hope shes made some real progress in wrestling with her demons and I wish her well. I suspected Danielle had some pretty deep emotional scars, but I didn’t think she was suicidal. For her own sanity, I hope she resists coming back onto the show if she’s invited to do so. Although, I have to confess that I would like to see her take Melissa down a notch or two…or three or four.

  16. yup
    September 8, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    The Story of @MelissaGorga's failed attempts to silence her past will be up shortly on @AArater http://t.co/CpSuQ466Pb #RHONJ— Faux Reality Ent (@FauxRealityE) September 8, 2013

    • yup
      September 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      .@lilmari215 @melissagorga @AArater Finishing up now, will publish shortly— Faux Reality Ent (@FauxRealityE) September 8, 2013

      • yup
        September 8, 2013 at 7:42 PM

        Looks like @AArater decided to ignore the pleas from #MarcoFamily to tell Real Version of @MelissaGorga Love Italian Style. RHONJ— Faux Reality Ent (@FauxRealityE) September 8, 2013

        • yup
          September 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM

          the story isn’t up yet but apparently any minute…

          • September 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM

            Good!

      • September 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM

        I thought he was going for a wide audience, not just the blogs. I hope he sold his story to a weekly print publication that reaches millions rather than the thousands online.

        arater 5

        • Jeannie5233
        • yup
          September 8, 2013 at 8:16 PM

          omg, just read it. told us nothing. I’m more annoyed than ever. Faux hyped it up and there was nothing new to even blog about. jesus.

          • Jeannie5233
            September 8, 2013 at 8:19 PM

            I agree yup. Same old – same old. “Stay tuned. . . .” Well, I am finally done “staying tuned” with all of these people. I tried to be openthroughout all this, but this has gotten beyond ridiculous.

        • pjbottoms
          September 12, 2013 at 12:38 PM

          “#MelissaGoBoom” LMFAO!

  17. September 8, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    So…who will be watching tonight? I feel tempted, I think this show has lived it’d life and now I want to see to the bitter end. I do hope that Teresa will have her own show someday.

    • charok
      September 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM

      im dvr’ing tonights episode…i just watch it now for sheer morbid curiousity or see what kind of BS comes out of TSIL and TB really to be honest

      • Anonymous
        September 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

        tb just about hit her in the eye with the glass he threw,scared all.and tsil said she loved him takin up for her but his temper is out of control.
        Teresa has no chance with any of them,penny will say Teresa is at fault,wait n see

        • September 8, 2013 at 11:35 PM

          I’m sure Teresa has had something to do with all of it but I don’t think she started it all. At this point, I almost hope she is the one behind every single thing. Lord knows she’s been accused of enough, so hell, why not.

          • xjrsygrl7733
            September 9, 2013 at 8:40 AM

            Teresa did not have anything to do with the cheating story. What don’t you people understand. Melissa has always been a cheater & those rumors were around before she ever met Teresa’s brother. Melissa has hurt a lot of people which is why they have come out & she & JoeG both know that T does not have anything to do with it! They keep trying to blame Teresa so it takes the heat off of Melissa! Penny even said that the producers came to her to get info on Melissa but they can’t say that on camera so they edit it to look like T had something to do with it! And if you notice Melissa & Joe are the only ones who keep talking about the cheating!!! No one else talks about it at all & everyone would forget about it if she just shut up! She has a guilty conscience which is why Messy keeps bring it up!! She & her sisters should have kept their mouths shut from the beginning & none of this would be happening at all. She wanted to be famous, remember, so this is what comes with it. Don’t come on a reality show when you have a closet, bed, drawer full of skeletons! Melissa didn’t have a problem talking about Joe Giudice cheating on Teresa but she has a problem when someone says she cheated!!! Give me a BREAK!

            • September 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

              I understand those rumors were out there a long time ago, what I am saying is that I don’t think Teresa is the one that started it up on the show for by bringing all these people into it publically. I could be all wrong and maybe Teresa finally had enough and did go to Jan and Penny. Can’t say I’d blame her and I might even be hoping she did.

            • charok
              September 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM

              i remember that xjrsygrl- how TSIL would make comments about juicy cheating…but yet if it is brought up she /tsil cheated oh how that is soooooo different. she even played up on her blog( i remember seeing this a while back ago) how missy said like she would go on a reality show if she had skeletons she would rather not come out. in fact i think i remember her quipping “come on give me more credit than that” thanks again for joining and i always look forward to your replies 🙂

        • September 9, 2013 at 5:21 AM

          I think Penny will blame Teresa, too. Once again the Gorga Garbage will believe a, so called, “stranger” over family. I could barely watch tonight’s episode because TB is a disgusting pig. It’s hard watching him act out knowing what he did to his sister! It’s reported that Gorga Garbage had dinner with the Greeks before leaving for Arizona? So, are they friends with TSIL in real life? I’m sure it was work related and I’m going to say it was about making Tre look bad. It’s funny though, my friend watched the show with me and was asking me, “So, did she cheat?” me, “I believe so”, friend, “Why does he care who wanted to know? Why doesn’t he leave his wife?” me, “they won’t have a storyline.” friend, “what?”. LOL!

  18. LVgrl
    September 8, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Manzo’s/Guidices/Laurita’s at the time (seasn1+2) were afraid of Danielle’s violent past, and were worred 4 their families. Remember: Danielle had been involved in getn arrestd 4child kidnapping/assault w/deadly weapon/heavy drugs/prostitution/stripn/stealn/cheatn & her lying about it only made speculation worse, cuz it was all recorded in a book bout her. I dont think I woulda tempted the beast by waving insults at her about it like Dina & Tre & Caro did, I mighta been scared of her too. But that’s y she was osteracized. Just sayin…

  19. Jeannie5233
    September 8, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    I personally identify with the following quotes from Danielle and reading them really tugs at my heart and does fill me with empathy and compassion for her:

    “Those women completely broke my spirit. . . . . . .And as a result of the way my cast treated me, and then them dragging up my past from when I was a child, younger than their children, um, that put me into some very dark places, which I had already surpassed and already survived.”

    How many of us, who have been through hell and back to survive and triumph over our past, whatever that may be (and many of us here have shared those stories or part of them), have been put back into those “dark spaces” at times throughout our lives? Thinking we were past it, when in fact, those “dark spaces” are part of who we are and, at least for me, no matter how strong I am, I am vulnerable to those “dark spaces” at times and all those feelings – all those emotions and experiences come flooding back as if it was yesterday.

    Do we know the extent of Danielle’s “dark spaces” – and just how deep those run in her heart and soul? We know some of it and what we do know is sad – very sad. Her castmates, including Teresa, used those insecurities, those self-esteem issues, and vulnerabilities Danielle so obviously had, to their advantage. Here was a person who wanted to be accepted (don’t we all have that need to belong – to fit in??) but instead was ostrasized and treated very cruelly. It was a foreshadowing of just what these women are capable of.

    Some people are much stronger than others – some people use different defense mechanisms to “survive”. And some are just so scarred their tools are lacking. Danielle, to me, is a person with many flaws – some of which were not of her own making as she was growing up and she also made some very poor choices as a young adult. As a result, her behaviors can be and are questionable. At least she has made an effort in trying to be a better person. That is the key here – she tries. And for that, at the very least, given that I know others who also have suffered through bad experiences and just wallow and feel sorry for themselves, I give her alot of credit.

    We all continue, throughout our lives, to be works in progress. Life is a never-ending opportunity to better ourselves and those around us. I wish Danielle the best in her journey.

    • charok
      September 8, 2013 at 8:40 PM

      i give her credit for trying to be a better person and i too wish her the best. i too empathize with her ( poor choices growing up and into adult hood) and i would not wish suicidal thoughts on anyone…

    • September 8, 2013 at 11:28 PM

      I agree Jeannie. My rude comments were before I read the new stuff Fame included. It’s really sad that Bravo allowed all of that to be shown. They HAD to know she was fragile emotionally. Very telling where their priorities are.

  20. qb
    • yup
      September 8, 2013 at 8:18 PM

      worthless–tells us nothing new. all the same things anthony has said on twitter. Faux wanted to hype it like she had something exclusive. so annoying.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM

        Agree! Meh – moving on. . . .

        • LVgrl
          September 8, 2013 at 9:05 PM

          Its realy getn anoyin! All the promises of “the truth” / “soon” frm Mr. Aarater & Mr. Bowen,
          re: Mehore’s lies of loyaty & still nothing, Season’s almst a wrap. still, nothing! He says he’s finalizing mag deal, that Mehore’s atty tried 2 stop his story, that’s y the delay. But is this just anthr attempt 2 keep us dragn along? so irratating!
          1thing that rang true in his letter (?) 2 us, when he finaly spoke 2 Messy (she called him 2 plead 4 him 2 stop w/story, that her “publishing co.”would pay him instead…)
          She only cared bout the repercussions of his story as in “lost book sales”
          Nothing about what this revalation will do 2 her marriage/kids/family/career//friends (oh,wait she has no friends) Guess we’ll keep lookin/waitin 4 the story…jeesh

      • Confused
        September 8, 2013 at 11:24 PM

        @yup — while I absolutely share your desire to get the truth out immediately, I think that the faux article is very telling. First and foremost, IF everything is true, he’s one smart guy. By not selling his story to TSIL’s publisher, he’s guaranteeing that it WILL get published. I guess that we’ve waited this long, why not a couple of more weeks. Must be really juicy.

  21. qb
    September 8, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Why do Joe Gorga always throw his parents under the bus?

    Her Parents instead of OUR Parents.

  22. lalala
    September 8, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Anyone watching? What was up with the terrible dub in of joego saying ‘those old tweets’ wtf.

    • Wilbur
      September 9, 2013 at 8:01 PM

      A reporter looked at penny’s tweets and found no tweets around Melissa’s birthday to joe about Melissa. I think it was from the daily beast. I googled RHONJ news today and read the article. So the whole show about joe getting tweets while in Arizona was a lie.

  23. Rachel
    September 8, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    ugh they are gonna make it seem like T and Penny were chummy and that T asked Penny all these things

  24. Sue
    September 8, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    I presume Danielle would have to sign a contract and Bravo would have full power to edit and twist everything she says. I’d rather see her join FW or write a book and not have any restrictions. Melissa needs to be kicked to the curb in any event.

  25. Jeannie5233
    September 8, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    And there you have it – airing out of sequence. Joe is enraged at Penny at the retreat in Arizona yet he and Melissa met with Penny at Chakra before the retreat. And THAT meeting will air next week.

    • Kim (TN Mom)
      September 9, 2013 at 8:08 AM

      Faux put up another blog after the “cheater” one. According to this story, if Penny says that Teresa is behind the rumors it’s a total Bravo re-creation. It says that TB abd TSIL met with Penny trying to persuade her to say Teresa was behind them. This meeting was on Feb. 28, 2013. I’m inclined to believe this story as it seems that Faux and The Greeks are quite close. I think that Penny’s tweet that she would “tell all” next week if editing was not true was not in reference to Teresa at all, but about TB and TSIL and what they truly were up to.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 9, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        It is also true that Rich and TB showed up at Rutt’s to have a conversation with JTG and supposedly made a “truce” with him to make him feel “comfortable”. And that meeting was also BEFORE Arizona, paving the way for a setup.

      • September 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM

        I published a blog on Feb 28 about the sitdown between Penny and the Gorgas, which occurred 10 days AFTER the Milania hair care launch party (episode 12) on Feb 18 and two weeks BEFORE they went to Arizona (episodes 14 & 15) on Mar 16 – 19. So the sitdown should have aired in episode 13 but instead is being shown out of sequence in episode 16. The fight at the grand opening of Posche 2 – where Joe Gorga and Lauritas assaulted Penny’s husband – occurred on Mar 30, just a week or so AFTER the cast returned to New Jersey (the Gorgas and Wakiles went to Las Vegas from Arizona before coming home).

        On December 12, 2012, I published a blog about tweets where the Marco clan takes a dig at Penny.

        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/penny-drossos-signs-contract-for-rhonj-season-5/

        Melissa and her sisters have been attacking Penny and her business on Twitter over the past two seasons. Recently, Melissa took a dig at Penny (without naming her) in her final blog for season 4 and her sister Kim Pirrella did as well:

        “As you can see, there are many desperate people on Twitter begging to be on the show. None of them get cast. It’s not Bravo’s style. The more you want it, the less likely you are to get it.” – Melissa Gorga, October 16, 2012, Bravo Blog

        “Its quite comical that @johnnythegrk banked on being cast on rhwnj even charging a new set of teeth for @pdkhair and BRAVO PASSED!! LMFAO” – Retweeted by Kim Pirrella, October 14, 2012 (during the premiere of part 3 of the reunion special)

        “Penny has a long history with Melissa, and knew Melissa long before her housewife days. In fact, when Melissa was casted for RHONJ, she actually called Penny [who she was not on good terms with her at the time] to boast.” – anonymous e-mail published at StoopidHousewives.com

        A Twitter follower alerted Penny to Melissa’s comment in her Bravo blog:

        Ko @Keena620
        @melissagorga threw a dig at @PDKhair and her hubby in her new blog. Penny plz call this bitch out
        7:00 AM – 17 Oct 12

        Ko Ko ‏@Keena620
        @PDKhair she said there are many desperate ppl on Twitter begging to be on the show. Hmmm made me think of u. I wish bravo would cast u.
        7:40 AM – 17 Oct 12

        Here are Penny’s responses:

        Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
        @Keena620 @melissagorga she did wt! Really Mel u want to go there! How did u meet Joe ? Bitch
        7:32 AM – 17 Oct 12

        Penny Drossos @PDKhair
        @Keena620 @melissagorga when you came back didn’t you say he wasn’t your type! Go bitch u want to play lets play how’s Fred Caruso bitch
        7:33AM – 17 Oct 12

        Penny Drossos @PDKhair
        @Keena620 @melissagorga tell everyone how you lied to him about ur first day you “taught” n you cried to him that it was too stressful
        7:35AM – 17 Oct 12

        Penny Drossos @PDKhair
        @Keena620 @melissagorga joe felt bad for you n told u to quit n you worked for him does Joe know exactly who he married? I doubt he does
        7:38AM – 17 Oct 12

        Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
        @Keena620 I’m not desperate she’s scared big difference.cause if I come on I don’t alone..
        7:46 AM – 17 Oct 12

        Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
        @Keena620 YES the producers did come to my house in aug to interview me..
        7:48 AM – 17 Oct 12

        Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
        @Keena620 I try I’m far form perfect n I know it .. I’m human but I don’t but up a front I am who I am .Thank u honey for the heads up 2day
        7:52 AM – 17 Oct 12

        On February 28, 2013, I published a blog about Penny having a sitdown with the Gorgas on February 28th.

        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/teresa-giudice-calls-truce-with-melissa-gorga/

        A source told Fame-Whorgas that during the Bravo-arranged meeting Penny had with Joe and Melissa Gorga at Chakra in Paramus on February 28, 2013, Joe and Melissa were making accusations against Teresa in an attempt to get Penny to say that Teresa was complicit in arranging the phone call at the Holiday Posche Fashion on December 3, 2012, the call where a friend of Penny’s tells Teresa that he witnessed Melissa cheating on Joe Gorga. According to my source, Joe and Melissa told Penny that Teresa is calling her a stalker, and Penny, trying to protect Teresa while also defending herself against the accusations, took out her cell phone to show Joe that she has Teresa’s home phone number, cell number and text messages between them. In addition, my source said Penny told Joe and Melissa that she’ll have to take up the accusations with Teressa. According to my source, based on hearsay on Twitter, “it’s deemed accurate that Teresa called her a stalker, and Penny won’t stand for false accusations.”

        On April 1, 2013, I published a blog about the brawl with Penny’s husband at the grand opening of Posche 2 on March 30.

        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/joe-gorga-chris-laurita-and-albie-manzo-get-into-a-fight-with-john-karagiorgis-at-the-grand-opening-of-posche-2/

        Sources are reporting that Joe Gorga, Chris Laurita and Jacqueline Laurita got into a physical altercation with Penny Drossos’ husband John Karagiorgis on March 30, 2013, at the grand opening of Kim D’s second boutique, Posche 2, which is downstairs from the Moxie Salon at 74 E. Ridgewood Avenue in Ridgewood, NJ. Teresa Guidice, Melissa Gorga, Jacqueline Laurita and Caroline Manzo also attended the event.

        Jersey_Girl said: “For those of you that claim Johnny wanted airtime, you’re wrong. He stayed away from all filming all season. The producers told him it would be a good idea he goes because all the husbands will be there and Penny might feel uncomfortable. Johnny went and was told to wait outside until called in. Once called in, he wasn’t there ten minutes, and then the brawl. Complete Bravo setup.

        “Producers were staggering us all in two at a time. By the time Johnny walked in, the stage for the brawl was set.

        “At the end, Johnny was screaming “Let me go, let me go, let’s see if these pussys can really fight me”. It was a complete Bravo shit show set up.

        “I am just sickened that grown men would hold down someone to get sucker punched – chicken sh*ts. If you fight, fight fair; I don’t care what the friggin’ beef is – real men don’t fight like that. Disgusting.

        “Jac’s denying it [that she used her high heel shoe to hit Johnny on the head] but witnesses state otherwise and Johnny got a heel mark on his forehead, so you decide.

        “Johnny’s sole purpose was to bury the hatchet. Rich Wakile and Joe Gorga went to Johnny’s place and agreed on that. But Joe kept pushing the issue at the event, and when Johnny turned to talk to Teresa, that’s when Joe rushed him. Joe never swung, but Johnny took him down to the ground and then security jumped in. The rest I said above.”

        From Faux’s new blog:
        http://fauxrealityentertainment.com/rhonj-reaches-new-low-to-justify-gorgas-violent-outbursts/

        In Mid March, the cast went to Arizona to film the Spa retreat at Miraval. Joe Gorga stated “I don’t know the woman Penny. I don’t know her husband.” Joe failed to mention that days earlier he and Melissa filmed with Penny, nor did he admit that he and Rich Wakile traveled to Johnny’s business, Rutt’s Hut to meet with Johnny. Notwithstanding these encounters, Joe insisted that Teresa must confront Penny about the cheating rumors that plague Melissa.

        Throughout the scene, Melissa looked scared: Scared that eventually the focus would shift from who started the rumors, to whether the rumors were true.

        If Melissa Gorga wanted the nasty tweets to stop, why did she and her sisters not only attack people on twitter but encourage others to attack on their behalf?

        Tonight’s verbal assault on Penny Drossos was staged to justify Joe Gorga’s violent attack on Johnny Karagiorgis which occurred within days upon their return to New Jersey.

        • Kim (TN Mom)
          September 9, 2013 at 12:06 PM

          Fame,

          The work you do to keep us in the loop of the Jersey shenanigans is truly appreciated. The blogs you mention above are so well laid out and get down to the nitty gritty. Reading Faux’s blog just jogged my memory of all the information you have previously provided for us.

          There’s something I’ve wondered about and don’t know if it has been discussed. Does anyone know what happened on the day that TSIL’s evil sister went off on Twitter to Andy? Where she said he would have to go through her to mess with her sister? I don’t tweet so I’m not sure of the exact words that she used but this is the gist of it. Anyone know what was happening in real time when that tweet came out?

  26. Jeannie5233
    September 8, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    I feel so sorry for those Gorga babies. TB’s temper is horrific and scary. Imagine unleashing that in front of a three year old. And TSIL makes excuses about it saying his heart is bigger. Sad.

    • charok
      September 8, 2013 at 9:33 PM

      i have thought about if what we see on the air is child’s play compared to what goes on when the cameras aren’t there? i too wonder and shudder to think what those kids have seen or “eavesdropped” on ( i think of time antonia hovering around the door when TSIL sends her away and TB is trying to “school” his wife/ the twitter tweets tsil did against tre?)

      • Jeannie5233
        September 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

        I grew up with someone who had a violent temper and went into rages. I know what it did to me then and I how I react when I am around it even now, as an adult. There is no way I believe TB doesn’t do that in front of his kids.

        A very telling scene tonight is when Teresa asks TB to swear on “Mommy and Daddy there will be no violence” when confronting anyone about the rumors. And we all remember how in the bathroom at the PFS, when TSIL called TB to come and save her honor how worried Teresa got because she was afraid he would do something.

        TB clearly has a history of violence and it is documented right here – it will give his lawyers a headache trying to defend him in the assault case against JTG.

        • elle
          September 8, 2013 at 10:41 PM

          Yes! Why make a point of practically begging him not to resort to violence if he had no past history?

        • charok
          September 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM

          and TSIL says that ( he goes into violent rages but his heart is 10 xs bigger/ makes up for it) hmmm making excuses for him much????? i did LOL when she whisper “what are you (effing) doing, you ( look ) like an idiot” – gotta love those subtitles!! no missing those!

    • LVgrl
      September 8, 2013 at 9:41 PM

      I worry bout the babies 2. We never c TSIL spending any quality time w/her kids! & when there is a shot, she’s usualy complaining 2 her kids bout “not botherin her/or dont mess up her hair/or she’s talkin realbad bout Slojo’s family”. They look sad/lost. Probably scared 2 w/a volatile dad & neglectful/self absorbd mom. Mehore’s kids r still young, soon they’ll b teased at skool just like Gia was 4 the adults poor behavior. Nice legacy, NOT! (wonder how they’re dealin w/request 4 paternity test 4 babyJoey frm Bulldog? Anyone heard?)

    • September 9, 2013 at 5:51 AM

      I worry about the kids, too. I’m sure, right now, the Gorga’s are stressed out with moving and Anthony Arater’s story. I don’t think that the Gorga’s are emotionally strong enough to put on a fake “happy face” for their children. They reserve that charade for the viewers. From what I see Tsil seems to get annoyed with her kids. Tb is so P-whipped that he ignores his kids to focus on Tsil’s needs. IDK, I’ll say a prayer that he doesn’t scare, hurt or accidently throw something at his kids.

      • September 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM

        I shouldn’t have put”

        “I don’t think the Gorga’s are emotionally strong enough to put on a fake “happy face” for their children.”

        I should have put:

        “I think the Gorga’s care more about how the public perceive’s them then how their kids do. Too bad they can’t play “pretend happy” for them.”

        Tsil’s heart is cold as ice and she is so self-centered! It would be hard for her to put her children’s well-being before her own.

  27. corky21
    September 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    My DH says he is starting to believe Tre is lying. Next week glimpse makes it look like Penny wants to show them something. He said maybe it’s tweets to Penny from Tre. I’m hoping it’s not. I say, Melissa’s old friends are the ones tweeting and posting and giving out her past after all the nastiness she portrayed against Tre and them. And sure, maybe Tre was told things, but it’s not Tre spreading rumors and telling Melissa’s friends things. Not sure what Joe meant that stuff is out there that no one knew; that could be something Tre passed on. But old the Melissa trash that is dogging them this year, is not coming from Tre. My DH is not convinced. LOL!

    • Jeannie5233
      September 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      I do remember Penny tweeting that her phone was worth “gold”. Whatever that meant. All I know is while we have been hoping for the “truth”, whatever that may be, that is NOT what we are going to get, no matter what that may be, and we will never really know what the hell is really going on.

    • elemcee
      September 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM

      I have not seen the show in at least a month, but when I checked the ratings for last week, I saw that next week’s episode is titled “A Blonde Drops A Bombshell”. I have no intention of watching. I can only imagine. At this point, I could care less if Tre did everything they are accusing her of. She is only human, and there is only so much she should be expected to take. Tre’s lower than pond scum family members do not care that they are hurting her children. In my opinion, all bets are off at this point in time.

      • September 9, 2013 at 6:05 AM

        Thank-you for bringing that up, Elemcee. My opinion of Tre won’t change, either, if she is involved. It’s so annoying how the dumb and dumber gorga’s are making the cheating topic all about it being Tre’s fault! If the cheating rumors weren’t true why not say, “This is all a lie! I want to see proof!”. I have to bring this up, when TB told Tre (paraphrasing), “I know you didn’t like my wife.”. Uhmmmm…. dumb axx, how about, “I know my wife never liked you….”. It just proves to me that TB is right their helping to make Tsil the “victim”! After Fame’s last blog it’s hard to watch these two untrustworthy, pathological liars on TV. Their both nothing but hatefilled, jealous backstabbers! After RHONJ end they will be nothing and will have to live with what they did to the Giudice’s. I know it wasn’t worth it for them. Did they really think getting the Giudice’s thrown in prison was really going to change Tsil’s voice? Turning on Tre isn’t what was keeping them from making millions, that is not Tre’s fault. The two dunces don’t realise that they are boring wannabe’s and after their time on HW’s they’ll be has been’s! In 10 years they might be on a “What happened to?” if their lucky!

        • elemcee
          September 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM

          Ikr? Can you imagine TB being your sibling? Or TB being your child? TSIL and TB are shameful, shameful people.

        • charok
          September 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM

          i know ive said it before, i do not have the blessing of having a brother. however if i DID, and he was going to hook up w a slutty triffling gold digging skank like TSIL. yes i WILL do everything in my power to prevent it from happening. and IF she still weaseled her way to be married to him, i would be on her like a rat on a cheeto, no way in HELL would i give her a moments peace especially if she did nothing to disprove my claims, if she was like tsil =still acting scandalous, trouble starting wench…oh yes i would keep on trying to convince my poor blind brother of this as well as my parents.

          • charok
            September 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM

            that there i guess makes tre a better person than i ..no i would not start rumors about her, but if she is doing bad things you betcha im gonna tell about!

    • GPM
      September 8, 2013 at 11:54 PM

      Penny is the one who knows all the “players” in TSIL;s drama as evidenced by her hosting Arater. While Penny’s phone could reflect texts from her to Tre and from Tre to her, it won’t reflect texts from Tre to anyone else.

      It’s not surprising that Penny would want to tell Tre that her brother’s married to a whore; TSIL’s old friends are telling anyone and everyone, including Josephine himself. (Recall Penny said in her blog that her friend passed TB his business card and stated that, if TB ever wanted to know the truth about his wife, to call him.)

      Tre’s right; this is not her fight. It appears TB knows and doesn’t care. After TB tweeted his admiration of another man’s half-naked physique at 1:30 a.m. in a motel room it’s occurred to me that perhaps TB doesn’t care he married a whore because he plays for the other team. That could also be why TSIL kept approaching Arater and Bulldog even after she was married.

      I’d probably feel sorry for both of them if they hadn’t decided to take out all their repressed anger and frustration on Tre, but their quest for fame and fortune has taken them way too far for that now. There’s no excuse for what they’ve done.

      • Patricia
        September 9, 2013 at 5:10 AM

        It was my impression the very first season with TSIL and TB,, that TB played for the other team, TSIL always ewwing, and stop!!!!, about him touching her or talking sex to her.. and him over talking about sex… not to mention when he does dress up , he dresses just like Tre lol… that was weird awkward.

  28. Pixie22
    September 8, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    This season of RHNJ has actually been boring. It’s obvious that BRAVO stages everything, let alone things are out of sequence.

  29. September 8, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    The storyline is boring and does not make sense. Joe was yelling about why his wife is the only one who is being talked about, maybe because the other wives don’t have the past Melissa does. Just like strippergate, Joe and Melissa are the ones who keep bringing it up. Why is it Teresa’s fault that Penny is harassing Joe. Really stupid. I hope this show does go off the air.

    • ihateandy
      September 8, 2013 at 10:38 PM

      I had the episode on the background and followed a crochet pattern. My crochet pattern had more excitement and real moments than Messy and TB hissy fits. I can’t even watch the show. I just treat it like the radio.

      • Alicia
        September 9, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        I agree. I used to not be able to miss an episode or do anything else while it is on. Now I’m like whatever it’ll come on a hundred more times this week. I wash dishes, talk on the phone, surf the internet and the show is playing in the background. Sick of the Gorgas. They ruined the show.

  30. IamNobodysHW
    September 8, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    In next week’s episode Kathy is wearing gloves to protect the food she is giving out then touches her hair with the gloves on. WTF! that is so dirty, I would never eat anything she cooks. On tonight’s episode did anyone else notice CaroLIE’s sweatshirt? It said KARMA, just wondering what that is all about.
    FAME: I have a new e-mail address, do I just change it on the bottom? I am asking because I don’t want to screw up anything. LOL

    • Alicia
      September 9, 2013 at 11:38 AM

      I didn’t see the previews for next weeks episode, but the touching her hair thing is something I would notice and be grossed out about too. lol.

  31. Grand-Beth
    September 8, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    I really don`t think Danielle will give a lot of info on Manzos or Laurita hags if she thinks she might have any chance of getting back on NJHW again. nor do I think Miss Andy will let her. I still want to know what they have on AndyAss or Bravo to keep getting a pass.

  32. ihateandy
    September 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    I have a question about Danielle in regards to her Bravo contract:
    1. If we are to go with the information from Heather in regards to Bravo Contracts and how they allegedly put a gagging order on the star after they leave the show for 5 years, why has Danielle Staub gone on Wendy Williams, Dr. Drew and other shows to express her point of view on the show?
    If Danielle was able to do it, why has Teresa not had the same freedoms? They must of had the same kind of contract in season 1 as they were all new.

    • elle
      September 8, 2013 at 10:44 PM

      Just guessing, but could it be the threat of being dropped from the show is the additional leverage?

      • ihateandy
        September 8, 2013 at 11:13 PM

        What additional leverage would there be post RHoNJ for Danielle? Btw she has her own production company and tv show coming up…

        • elle
          September 8, 2013 at 11:24 PM

          There might not be any more for Danielle if her contract was for five years. The first episode of the series was broadcast in May, 2009. The contracts would have been signed and filming would have taken place in 2008. She could possibly be free and clear or close to it.

          • elemcee
            September 8, 2013 at 11:35 PM

            I have been wondering if the meeting that Andy had with Danielle at the beginning of this year/end of last year was to pay for her continued silence about just how vicious TSIL was. I wonder if Bravo cut her a quick check to make those emails and texts go away.

  33. September 8, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    I haven’t looked through all of the comments yet so I apologize if this has already been mentioned. I just wanted to get something off my chest because I am so tired of this broken record. Why in the hell after everything that has gone on does everyone just assume Teresa is the mastermind of all rumors? And WTF is Caroline even running her mouth for? Teresa TRIED to get TSIL to confront Jan and Penny together but TSIL didn’t want to. And now Caroline is all about getting them to confront these women together? Hey, Caroline……Why don’t you call out TSIL for NOT wanting to do that with Teresa? But all of a sudden it is such a great idea because Caroline suggested it? I am so done with this show. No matter what it is always, “Teresa is awful and spreads all kind of lies about TSIL.” Did you ever stop to notice that it seems to be TB and TSIL that ALWAYS bring these so called rumors up? For all we know it is them doing it to themselves just to get attention and to try to blame it all on Teresa. Everyone seems to be on TSIL side. It just shows that it doesn’t matter what Teresa does to make peace with these people. They aren’t happy unless they are tearing her down. And as I’m watching the show as I write this, TB in his talking head says that Teresa is fake and she’s all a facade. Okay, here they are trying to fix things and he says something like that? And TSIL does it in her talking head too. I feel so bad for Teresa. She is there and trying. She is obviously making an effort. But TSIL just walks around with a sour look on her face. You can tell she doesn’t want this to work. Teresa is better off without these poisonous people in her life. She is only going to get hurt. She has bent over backwards trying to appease these people and look where it’s gotten her. TSIL and TB will never let this go and will never believe her. They keep saying they want her to be real and tell the truth. Doesn’t that go both ways? Teresa has been real on this trip. It is TSIL that has not. And TB getting all pissed off in a rage throwing a glass that almost hit Teresa saying that he is a man and nobody will talk about his wife. Okay, why is it okay for everyone to talk about his sister? Doesn’t seem to care about that, does he? We’ve all watched how Teresa protects her brother. The same cannot be said of her lousy brother. Hell, he jumps at any chance to talk smack about her to anyone. Why is there a different set of rules for TB and TSIL? They can run their mouth about Teresa and her family all they want but Teresa can’t say anything about them. Teresa is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. She doesn’t need this added on to everything else going on in her life. In my opinion, she has tried and tried but TB and TSIL will never let this go. There will be no peace. They will continue to talk smack about her behind her back. They will go out of their way to smear her. She needs to cut ties with them, at least for a while. As long as TSIL is in the picture, Teresa and her brother will never have peace. I know Teresa is doing this for her parents but there is only so much a person can take. She needs to cut the toxicity out of her life.

    • ihateandy
      September 8, 2013 at 11:15 PM

      Thats a great rant! I hope you feel better now hehe

      • September 8, 2013 at 11:23 PM

        Haha!! Thanks, ihateandy! I did help to get it all out.

    • charok
      September 8, 2013 at 11:30 PM

      princessveronica, i feel the same way. TSIL’s face over the vacation has made it crystal clear she has NO desire or intention to work things out. even my MOM said on tonights episode ( when they were talking about taking a united stand against penny) that TSIL’s face showed NO desire or no want to heal this rift….TSIL wants to keep the pot stirred to keep tre and TB at odds..( this is huge, bc at the beginning my mom LIKED missy, i always thought she was a fake snake in the grass since day 1, so for my mom to do an about face like this, to me speaks VOLUMES) TSIL pouted when TB suggested to invite tre and juicy. and she pouted there while al and kathy and everyone else was pushing for them to shut penny down. and why would TB get mad at a tweet penny directed to him ” how did you meet your wife, bitch” ??? if they need to go forward then TB/TSIL need to admit the truth too ( how they met,ect) also even though they brought up that JAN hangs around penny ( and jan is very disgruntled w/ TSIL) and a prime suspect of who is feeding this insider info to ( penny,ect) they want NO part of that explanation ( jan)…it deflects from their story line of bringing tre down.

      • September 9, 2013 at 12:37 AM

        Charok, spot on. How can they not see that Jan could be who is leaking info? Maybe they do but they would much rather keep all the blame on Teresa. Kudos for your mom!! I think there are a lot of people that are finally seeing TSIL for who she really is. I’m like you though, I always thought she was a snake in the grass. She has done so many things to Teresa but Teresa has pushed it aside and has really been trying with her brother and TSIL. I know that’s hard to do. But she did. She has been the only one between her brother and TSIL that has stuck to mending the rift. Even Juicy has tried with them. It’s all so draining to watch.

  34. Grand-Beth
    September 8, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    If a magazine has bought the rights to Anthonys story, I would think they want to be first to break it. this may be all he is allowed to say till the story comes out.

    @Jeannie5233
    ITA with everything you said about Danielle,
    anyone who has never had storms in their life could never know what someone else has been though.

    • September 8, 2013 at 11:11 PM

      I can’t just post a comment on here so sorry for hijacking yours Grand Beth. Skipping to the end to comment on how beautiful Danielle’s girls are. Jillian seems to be coming into her own look and Christine is more beautiful than ever.

      • elemcee
        September 8, 2013 at 11:38 PM

        They are such beautiful, sweet-seeming girls. I hope they do not have to hear about this show too often. They deserve to have peace and be left alone.

        • September 9, 2013 at 12:04 AM

          Agreed.

  35. ihateandy
    September 8, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    As usual Andy will allow Danielle a few sentences while he hogs the airwaves. Worst interviewer ever.

  36. Pixie22
    September 8, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    Kim G is on twitter running her mouth about Danielle already!

    • September 9, 2013 at 12:05 AM

      Kim G is desperate for fame (but aren’t they all?).

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 48m
      @daniellestaub tell @Andy about the 100G’s u tried to borrow to from our neighbor Chris in WestNY! He refused&now u won’t talk to him. #WWHL

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 40m
      No @Andy she didn’t borrow from me, she asked to borrow from CHRIS for a new BENTLEY! @Adam_Barta knows

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 36m
      @Andy why did she want to move so close to me on the Hudson in the same complex?? She rents. I OWN. #WWHL @Adam_Barta

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 33m
      @daniellestaub stop looking at $4M on the Hudson. The last house they put a Sherrif lock on! #wwhl @Adam_Barta

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 19m
      @Andy ill get Chris to call in to give you the FACTS about @daniellestaub & the car! Would you like his #? @Adam_Barta #WWHL

      Adam Barta ‏@Adam_Barta 24m
      @Andy I can do a song with @daniellestaub, that would be fun! #WWHL

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 22m
      “@Adam_Barta: @Andy since when does she have a voice??!

      Housewives Slut Pig ‏@Andrewanthony91 14m
      @Kimgranatell @Adam_Barta @Andy since when did the doctors allow you to escape the mental hospital, Kim>?

      Caitlyn Myers ‏@MyersCate 9m
      @Kimgranatell @Adam_Barta @Andy @daniellestaub Kim should be locked in the hospital for life! She’s a psycho crazy stalker!

      Caitlyn Myers ‏@MyersCate 8m
      @Kimgranatell @Adam_Barta @Andy @daniellestaub her whole feed is about the rhonj.. GET A LIFE STALKER!!

      rose ‏@IGaiaAspiMom 6m
      @Kimgranatell @Adam_Barta @Andy @daniellestaub you sound like a mean old witch Kim g!Oh thats right you are all of those..mean.old. Witch!!!

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell
      @katyjewels Katy u were with me when Chris said Danielle wanted to borrow the 100G’s. And he offers 50G’s and she got pissed.

      katy richards ‏@katyjewels
      @Kimgranatell yeah who does this??? Copycat…she 1st moves (rents) to ur condo complex minus ur water view n now a Bentley like u…please

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 22h
      @katyjewels U & I this weekend with Chris 4 dinner. More facts to come. & Army vs Stanford with our escort @whatupbob

      katy richards ‏@katyjewels
      @kimgranatell what dumb azz (aka Danielle) thinks a Bentley costs 100k?? Wasn’t urz over 200k & u hv a driver?
      Retweeted by Kim Granatell

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell
      My fabulous cars!!! pic.twitter.com/jU2hsFIJ1H

      Adele’s nutritionist ‏@alekjandro
      @Kimgranatell I heard u lease, not own.

      Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell
      @alekjandro REALLY why don’t u call Manhattan Motor Cars & ask them?? I have owned several. Get your facts straight b4 u open your big boca
      9:36 PM – 8 Sep 13

      • logantrepagnier@yahoo.com
        September 9, 2013 at 2:28 PM

        Kim G is DESPERATELY PATHETIC! On WWHL, Danielle politely brushed her off, IGNORED HER, and continued on with the interview like Kim didn’t exist! GREAT JOB DANIELLE! What bothers them is Danielle isn’t concerned with anything they have to say about her, and it’s killing them! Silence is golden! Let them rant on, with their miserable lives!

  37. ihateandy
    September 8, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Oh Danielle called Andy out!! She wasn’t fired, he admits it:) Gawd Andy, youre so slimeball. Good thing his mom was there made him confess without being so shady and a beaotch

    • elemcee
      September 8, 2013 at 11:40 PM

      I cannot believe we thought she had been fired all this time, and Andy just let it roll. He makes me so friggin sick. I cannot even look at him without needing to vomit anymore.

      • Alicia
        September 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM

        It sounds like they amicably went their separate ways. They didn’t want her anymore and she didn’t want to be there anymore.

    • September 9, 2013 at 8:49 AM

      Just like Adrienne was “fired” He is SUCH a liar.

  38. Debbie J
    September 8, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    I love the fact that Danielle just called Andy out on her getting fired.

    • September 8, 2013 at 11:29 PM

      Me too!!!!

    • elle
      September 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM

      It felt to me like that was staged for some reason.

      • September 9, 2013 at 12:25 AM

        Well I was watching the RHONJ episode on the second run before WWHL and during a commercial break for RHONJ Mandy came on with Danielle promoting Wwhl and mandy said that it was going to be live and Danielle said that that was the only way she would agree to do the show. I think it was so that 1. Her words wouldn’t get edited and 2. So she could ask him that question about the firing ang put him on the spot.

  39. September 8, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Danielle just made my day sayng the truth about TSIL contacting her to bring down Teresa

  40. elle
    September 8, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Interesting that Andy allowed Danielle to say what she did about TSIL. Sometimes it does appear as though the plan is to expose her…can’t shake the feeling that TSIL is willingly going along with that direction though. Can think of a few reasons why that might be.

    • charok
      September 8, 2013 at 11:39 PM

      ok seeing you and nancy say this ( danielle saying this about tsil wanting to bring down tre) compelled me to dvr the next wwhl show at 1130pm cst. however im gonna have to wait until tomorrow to watch it, or the next day..this ol gal is tired and gotta work in the morning LOL

  41. September 8, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    WTH did Mike Tyson say on that play back with Melissa???

  42. ihateandy
    September 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    can someone please watch the live version on Bravo website and do a summary? I cant access the bravo site as I am outside the US.

  43. Luvfamewhorgas
    September 8, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    I give Danielle credit…she just gave Andy a taste of his own medicine. I don’t think she has super human powers but I do think that NBC has been listening to fans and we have had enough of the super contrived edits. Andy admitted Danielle left as a mutual decision. He wouldn’t admit she wasn’t “fired” but admitted it was mutual a small victory but a victory.

    • September 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM

      I’m sure It meant a lot to Danielle to have Andy put it out there that she was fired from the reality t.v. world, because it may have effected her ability to get another job. That was why she was so upset that he said she was fired.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 9, 2013 at 9:49 AM

        She did say on air that it caused her some grief afterwards.

  44. Saddle_River_NJ
    September 8, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Can someone please explain to me what the hell just happend with Andy and Danielle???? She was allowed to confirm that Melissa was trying to take Teresa down? Andy didn’t look “right” and Danielle was frozen from too much botox. But seriously – what is the reason for what we just saw. I feel like I’m missing something…

    • elle
      September 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      I get what you mean. I came away from that feeling manipulated for some reason. Here’s a possible scenario straight from my imagination: The exchange regarding Andy having said Danielle was fired from the show which she claims to be false could have been part of her compensation for appearing on the episode this evening. When has Andy ever allowed any guest to continue being so positive about Teresa and negative toward the rest of the cast? That was weird. Then to have a caller get through with the question about TSIL and allow Danielle to give an answer that clearly put TSIL in a bad light was out of the ordinary and immediately makes me suspect there was a motive for letting it happen. Perhaps I’m too cynical. It will be interesting to see the direction the last episodes/reunion take toward setting up the next season (if there is one).

      • September 9, 2013 at 1:09 AM

        It’s because this was not pre taped. She only agreed to do this with a live feed 🙂

        • September 9, 2013 at 10:42 AM

          Ahhh…okay. Smart Danielle, smart…!

      • September 9, 2013 at 8:55 AM

        I kind of disagree because Danielle didn’t tell us anything we already didn’t know. Melissa was stalking the show for two seasons, and that Danielle forwarded all of her correspondence about such to production. We all know she was begging Bravo to get on the show and bring Teresa down, and feeding Danielle information.

    • Sue
      September 9, 2013 at 1:38 AM

      Because it was live and they had to air what Danielle said. It was swell!!!!! She took Miss Andy back a notch or two and Melissa must be screaming her head off tonight. HAHAHA

  45. September 8, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    This time around, Danielle was in the position of power over Andy, and she handled the questions with class (which seemed to disappoint Andy). She is Bravo-free. She said, “I’m in a much better place now.” And about her past appearances on WWHL and her role on RHOHN, she said, “I’m not that person.” If her reality show gets picked up, I hope she remains grounded. I love that she told a caller (in the after show, which was less than 20 minutes) she couldn’t answer his question because, “I haven’t put Bravo on literally since I left.”

    • September 9, 2013 at 12:04 AM

      Standing ovation to Danielle. She did handle herself with class. I enjoyed both the regular episode and after hours one.

      • September 9, 2013 at 8:56 AM

        Me, too.

  46. Sackem
    September 9, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    I hope I can find a link to Danielle in my region!!!!

    I just watched the horse ep. Very obvious that Missy is stuck in her dislike of Teresa. She will not move forward, everyone else seems to be letting go… except Missy with her school girl digs.

    • tam
      September 9, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      well is she lets go of her dislike she has no storyline, so disliking Teresa and selling her out is an advantage to her right now and its also an advantage to her brother Joe because as long as Melissa can ride the Teresa train she will not leave him. When this is over she will and i think he knows it…with his stupid ass

  47. Grand-Beth
    September 9, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Please, Fame, give any info on WWHL tonight with Danielle. did we hear anything new? I stopped watching anything on Bravo after the 2nd episode of season 5.

    • September 9, 2013 at 12:59 AM

      I just updated this blog with Danielle’s comments about Teresa, Melissa, Jacqueline and Caroline. It’s at the top of the blog, under the gif.

      • Jersey Obsessed
        September 9, 2013 at 2:53 AM

        Thanks for responding so quickly Hon! You should check out Penny’s twitter tonight. She said she’s been covering for someone for two years and is tired of being the scapegoat. She promised after next week’s episode when her obligations met, she’s spilling her guts!

  48. Jersey Obsessed
    September 9, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Fame! Have you seen this yet? http://fauxrealityentertainment.com/rhonj-melissa-gorgas-failed-attempts-to-silence-her-past/. Anthony Aratwr is back on twitter with pics of him and Johnny the Greek at Johnny’s house? I was wondering for a second about him disappearing off of twitter, but he’s baaaaaaaack! #giddy

    • September 9, 2013 at 1:02 AM

      I have, Jersey Obsessed. It explains how Melissa tried to pay him off to stop him from telling his story, but he told her to get lost. But it doesn’t name the magazine that he gave his story to or when it’s coming out, I guess because he can’t say and he doesn’t know when it will be published – that would be up to the magazine.

    • Anonymous
      September 9, 2013 at 1:22 PM

      Im SURE roid & Meho will find a way to blame T for this as well : )

  49. jennacheryl
    September 9, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Can someone put the link up to tonight’s after show? Sorry I cannot find it. Thanks!

  50. Grand-Beth
    September 9, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Fame

    does this mean Danielle is coming out with her own reality show ?

    • September 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM

      Danielle said: “I created my own show, a 50-50 co-adventure with Left/Right Productions, and we’re filming right now.” It’s a reality show with Danielle in it but I’m guessing that it hasn’t been picked up by a network yet.

  51. Grand-Beth
    September 9, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    the whole cast better be careful because like Danielle said ” Karma has a return policy and it isn`t an exchange”.

  52. Monique
    September 9, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    I’ve tried my best to read all the comments before I made my own so that I wasn’t repeating what others possibly was saying but–I saw a little extended part of next weeks episode when Melissa and Joe meet up w/ Penny and when they asked her where is she getting this source Penny replies:”I’m not gonna take the bullet! I heard it from your sister!”. So WTF Penny?! You can’t say that was editing because it didn’t appear like it was for almost 2 years her and husband have been on this campaign trying to expose Melissa. They mentioned tids and bits of Melissa’s past where it was pretty clear Teresa doesn’t know about it. I’m so tired of Hoey always trying to blame his sister for EVERYTHING and not taking responsibilities of his own actions and when he has his rage roid fit Melissa was talking down to him. Like her demeanor was very shocking. She had this dominate control to her voice to him. Like its so clear that she runs that relationship. I’m over Melissa and “little ole me” tactics! You expect Teresa to come clean about her wrongdoings but won’t even spill the beans on yours?! Melissa is constantly throwing digs at Teresa and their so obvious! It’s like CALL HER OUT ALREADY!!! And Joe saying that Melissa’s father is rolling in his grave through the rumors they believe Teresa is responsible for is a wad of shhh…(poo). I’m getting tired of them going after Teresa every episode. I’m very close in not watching any longer. Tired of giving Melissa ratings her cheap ass doesn’t need.

    • Monique
      September 9, 2013 at 1:58 AM

      Roid rage*

    • tulip
      September 9, 2013 at 7:33 AM

      I think that Penny was finally able to negotiate a contract to get paid this season by Bravo, and as part of that contract, she agreed to get on the “blame Teresa” bandwagon.

      Penny is now a famewhore like all the rest.

      • September 9, 2013 at 8:59 AM

        Well she campaigned for it hard. For a very long time. I think she has a little Melissa Gorga in her, and that she would lie to get on the show. She was so desperate.

    • ABetterMom
      September 9, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      I heard that too. I was shocked! I am hoping that Penny’s response is to a non-relevant question. Perhaps, “How did you know Jan would be at the Milania event.” Of course, I am just dreaming. But sometimes Bravo’s previews are very misleading. After all, why would Joe, Jac and Chris beat up Penny’s husband if it was ultimately Teresa who fed rumors to Penny. None of this makes any sense!

      • Monique
        September 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

        You could be right! Something doesn’t sit well w/ Penny. I believe she’s gonna throw Teresa under the bus. That preview was shocking!

        • ABetterMom
          September 9, 2013 at 12:26 PM

          I wish I had DVR’d the episode to catch her saying that on the preview. I heard it and thought OMG to myself so I kept the channel on all the way up through WWHL while I was doing other stuff at home. Everytime the previews came on again I stopped to listen, but that little snippet of the clip of her saying “it was your sister that told me” was never played again. If anyone can post a link to that particular preview, that would be great! I thought I imagined it until I read Monique’s comment!

          • Monique
            September 9, 2013 at 12:51 PM

            Melissa was talking to Penny and Melissa said “I feel like at Teresa’s event you were holding something back on what you wanted to say.” and Penny nodded and said yes, I believe. Then Joe and Melissa said something where they were blaming Penny and Penny was like “I’m not gonna take the bullet! I heard it from your sister!” Then Joe and Melissa’s eye lightening up like they were shocked and that was the ending of the preview.

            • Monique
              September 9, 2013 at 12:53 PM

              Lightened*

    • Monique
      September 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

      I agree w/ you guys! Like WTH?! I mean its clear Penny wants a contract w/ Bravo to fix her nasty yellow teeth and possibly get Botox on that disgusting skin of hers but WTF lady?! I find it hard to believe she owns a hair salon with that tacky bleach blonde hair color w/ nasty, nappy extensions. Her hair looks fried but back to my point! This lady and her husband has been on a hate campaign against Melissa and the fact that she’s back-paddling is shocking and disappointing all at the same time.

      THEY were the ones that was bringing Melissa’s stripper past back into the light and THEY were the ones that were involving Bulldog to expose Melissa’s infidelities when she got married to Joe not Teresa. Is being a fame whore like their worst enemy worth losing their credibility as decent human beings? Though some have said that Penny and her husband seem a bit shady I thought they weren’t. But man have they changed my perception on them.

      All they want is money and publicity. The ONLY person that seems reliable on their stories about Melissa is Bulldog and Jan. Penny really disappointed me and to tag along w/ Melissa and Joe to try and ruin Teresa’s credibility and the little of reputation she has left is a coward ass move!!!

      The reason why I know Teresa is telling the truth because she brought in her mother in next weeks episode to tell her that her, Melissa, Joey and Joe are gonna come together and end this drama because they want to move forward and be a family. If Teresa was lying she wouldn’t of dragged her mother into this. You can tell that her mother is very important to her and I do NOT believe she would tell her mother a lie to save her own ass because you can tell that Teresa tells her mother EVERYTHING that is going on btwn her, her stumpy, lying, conniving, disgusting brother and his cheap, over priced wife!

      Penny just created more drama and I don’t feel bad for her when Caroline goes off on her torn up ass. Let her have it and I’m glad Wacko Jacko clucked Penny’s husband w/ her heels on the forehead. What a bunch of trolls!

  53. September 9, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Just returned from our vacation and started to watch tonight’s episode. The editing is horrible. In addition to many other boo, boos, when Teresa approaches Jac and Chris, Chris has a blk. shirt on (Why did they blur the back of it out?) Then when he does the “horse thing” he has a “Frankie’s, etc.” shirt on. Minute 6 and all of the clothing is wrong.

    Why do I bother to watch? As I stated in an email this morning, I can truly understand why people follow the blogs and do not watch the show.

  54. September 9, 2013 at 3:13 AM

    Did anyone else think that Albert (in the scene where Joey G threw a fit) looked like “Man I have my kids I don’t need to deal with this crap”?
    On another question:so do meHO and Joey G still blame T for the rumors?

    • corky21
      September 9, 2013 at 7:44 AM

      I think they do. They said it was her and she has to stop her involvement in all this stuff he’s reading, etc. Melissa said it too. However, who would know more stuff about Melissa, Teresa who she’s known a shorter time, or her friends who she abandoned and turned on? Teresa never speaks up properly, she says, “it’s not me, and is not that convincing. She should say, you have friends and/or acquaintances out there that don’t like you and are spreading these rumors. Some of them I have read, some people have told me, but it’s your friends from your past that know you, not me. And, if Tre talked about Melissa to others, who cares, Melissa has been after Tre from before the show aired, we now have proof from Danielle on some of what she has done.

      Also, Melissa has a “single white female” issue. She met Tre and slowly started to do her hair, make up, and clothing just like Teresa. That would annoy me if I had a SIL that did that. A little bit is fine, but they are like identical in how they dress, act, etc. It’s scary, freaky.

      Plus, we also know, but not if it’s 100% true, but some must be, that Joe and Mel have been feeding personal financial information about his sister, to me, that is the lowest of the low.

      This show has to end, I cannot stomach any of them, except Teresa and her girls.

      • September 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM

        FRE has another blog out about the text msg. that set TB off. The text that was shown was sent October 17, 2012. What I found interesting is that Gorga Garbage meet with Penny before the Arizona trip took place. Apparently, the Gorga’s were “trying to convice Penny to say that Teresa Giudice promted the cheating rumors.”. Which, if true, means Gorga Garbage is behind the cheating scandal. I found it wierd that the cheating rumors seemed to hit around the time S5 started filming when the “rumors” were around for years. The cheating “scandal” is probably the Gorga’s meal ticket. Sorry for getting of topic, Corky, I enjoy reading your posts. I think editting makes Tre come across worse than what she is. I was impressed with how Tre handled her one on one’s with Rosie and Jaq. I didn’t view the Caroline sit down. I do cringe for Tre when she’s put on the spot. I, too, wish she would just tell the Gorga’s the same thing you wrote above! If you have time and don’t mind going to FRE’s website read the newest blog, it’s pretty interesting.

        • corky21
          September 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM

          Hmm. What is. FRE, Fredo? LOL. He has a blog or web?

          • September 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM

            Faux Reality Entertainment. Sorry, she’s another blogger. Fame’s newest blog has about the same info as FRE’s.

      • Alicia
        September 9, 2013 at 12:17 PM

        Melissa was mad because Teresa asked her to stop using her photographer, but I don’t blame Teresa. She was getting all of these unique family portraits done and Melissa starts getting the same portraits of her kids done and had them wearing almost the same clothing. It sounds silly, but that would annoy me too. Melissa then went on to use the same makeup artist. Now she’s copying Jennifer Lopez’s hair and style. She has no style of her own so she has to copy someone elses, even her former friends said so.

        • September 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM

          TSIL is a manipulative copycat because she turned her SWF ways on Tre and told people it’s Tre who copies her! I have a younger sister who is the same way and it is very frustrating! After a while, though, the truth will come out as it has with TSIL.

      • September 10, 2013 at 12:46 AM

        Is allowed to say that corky? Or does it leave Bravo and herself up for litigation for defamation?

  55. Calypso
    September 9, 2013 at 3:48 AM

    This is just my opinion on Danielle.

    I’ve wondered why Danielle is popping up here and there and after all this time is now siding with Teresa. This summer she had meetings at Bravo HQ, rumors of RHONJ appearance, making amends with Teresa, and she confessed to conversations with TSIL – why? WHY NOW?

    Remember, TSIL contacting Danielle is old news, and if we believe Teresa – it’s in the past – because she’s forgiven TSIL. There is also the question of where it belongs or fits in the RHONJ storyline and as far as I can tell it doesn’t. Why the big change of heart towards Teresa?

    Could it be Danielle’s new reality show? Will it air on Bravo? Why would Bravo or Andy agree to air WWHL with Danielle Staub LIVE? Have we been duped again?

    Danielle left RHONJ with very few fans so like every other cast mate she’s now trying to climb aboard the coat-tails of Teresa hoping to reel in some of support from Teresa and her fans for the new show.

    I’m glad that she’s telling the truth and exposing TSIL (somewhat) but why now? Has Danielle changed or is she just using the hype surrounding the RHONJ feud to gain press attention and put herself in a better light? Maybe we should start watching wrestling and learn the ways of switching sides – Reality Villain to Good Guy PR 101.

    At the reunion Danielle took her anger and frustration with the cast and turned it on Teresa. Teresa called her on this. Why only go after Teresa when she had information on Caroline and Jac? Danielle said on WWHL tonight “it wasn’t her place to put it out there”. That was odd because she thought it was perfectly fine to declare open season on Teresa! The whole bit with Dina was hushed pre-reunion under the disguise of forgiveness but she came armed and gunning for Teresa with information from TSIL.

    Where’s Danielle’s big change? I don’t see a difference in what she’s doing now vs. what she did then. She threatened Teresa (then) with the exposure of information obtained from TSIL and she threatened TSIL (recently) by possibly exposing that information.

    As for recovering- I will agree, the dark is a hard place to be and all due credit is given to her but she like TSIL she knew what her closet contained and risked having it opened and exposed for fame.

    And to top that off …..We can all thank Danielle for TSIL & TB getting on the show!

    I don’t know about you but my forgiving and forgetting just got a little harder!

    • Jersey
      September 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

      I think Danielle being on WWHL was perfect for the storyline. It once again proves Melissa is a hypocrite. This episode showed Mel and Joe accusing Teresa of being responsible for the cheating rumors. Joe Gorga says he believes Teresa would talk to strangers about him and his wife. Meanwhile Danielle says in front of Andy that I forwarded Melissa’s emails trashing Teresa to the producers. The Gorgas are disgusting back stabbing hypocrites .

  56. September 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM
    • September 9, 2013 at 8:22 AM

      26 AM
      Fame

      I remember Danielle responding on twitter to Caroline’s WWHL episode.. She said caroline should have apologized for saying her kids have no light in their eyes

      Also..

      Please post Danielle’s WWHL episodes plus all after show clips…it is amazing

  57. tam
    September 9, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    You know it saddens me how things are getting blown out of proportion. Teresa loves her brother to death and would never do anything to hurt him like Juicy Joe said. She adores her brother and to think that this little short stump is playing along making his sister look bad just for fame. I despise Andy Cohen bitch ass, he’s so messy

  58. RHOFW
    September 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Why when TB and MeHo are getting ready for her Birthday dinner is TB dubbed in saying “I was seeing these old tweets” dubbed into the conversation?

    • September 9, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      I thought Joe Gorga and Melissa were never on twitter.

      • RHOFW
        September 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

        I know right lol but didn’t he say something like “I was getting these texts” at the high wire scene?

    • Jeannie5233
      September 9, 2013 at 10:04 AM

      To supposedly make the “storyline” flow – epic FAIL. Especially with production using that OLD tweet from Penny, which had absolutely nothing to do with the “cheating rumors” and everything to do with TSIL insulting her in her blog and her sisters bashing her on Twitter at the time, which was in October 2012.

      The actual tweet read:

      Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
      @Keena620 @MelissaGorga she did wt! Really Mel u want to go there! How did u meet Joe ?
      Bitch
      7:32 AM – 17 Oct 12

      Penny was not alluding to TSIL cheating in this tweet. She was alluding to HOW TSIL and TB really met.

      What is interesting about this particular choice of tweet by production? Penny HAS tweeted about TSIL’s cheating – actually naming names of who TSIL was hanging out with and posting pictures. But production would not use those tweets because it would open up a whole new can of worms and they wouldn’t be able to tie up their “storyline” in a nice package to end the season.

      • RHOFW
        September 9, 2013 at 10:16 AM

        I thought the actual tweet they chose was strange because Juicy had already asked that at the season 4 reunion. TB saying that was so OBVIOUSLY dubbed in, there is this old saying clearly Dandy hasn’t heard of “You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all the time”

      • September 10, 2013 at 12:42 AM

        Does it really matter how they met? Sure I would love to know because I am nosey but seriously why are they making it such a big deal. They are making it into something bigger than it should be. Hell I met my husband when I was pinning for someone else and thought I would end up with the other guy. Well a summer fling turned into a 10 year long relationship including dating. They love love love the drama. The only thing I can think of is that she was a call girl, but we know that is not the truth….wait there is their storyline for next season lol

        • September 10, 2013 at 9:58 AM

          TB is not really concerned about his wife. He is concerned about secrets about himself. His father said he was selfish, he only cares about himself. He is not protecting his wife. Anthony Arater mention TB and a waitress. TB was engaged twice. What secrets would he want to hide about himself? He seems so out there with his sexuality. Was he in a committed relationship when he met TSIL? In TSIL’s book he mentions being loyal to a fiance for ten years, but says nothing about the second engagement.

  59. September 9, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Penny is getting ready to stab Teresa in the back. And that is how the season will end. With Melissa coming out on top. I’m so out. It is all the more disturbing to watch knowing that Teresa has such serious problems in her life. I just can’t be part of it anymore.

    • NCGal
      September 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

      I’ve been out for the last 4 episodes. Now I just read the blogs and here.

  60. Grand-Beth
    September 9, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    I don`t know about you guys but….. Caroline, to me is the worst. I want to throw up when I hear her giving advice and her ” words of wisdom “. I really hope if the Manzoids get their spin-off, that will be the lowest ratings EVER for Bravo.

    • corky21
      September 9, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      Caroline is not in a place to give advice; however at her age, she feels she is wiser I suppose. I know I feel wiser and we are the same age. However, if I had her family situation, bad relationships that are not mended, I’d keep my mouth shut!

  61. NCGal
    September 9, 2013 at 10:11 AM
  62. Grand-Beth
    September 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Oh!!!!! I forgot what I really wanted to say ( it`s called sometimers ). I wish they would show every clip of the LIES Caroline has ever said at the re-union. But, I know kiss-ass Andy would never let his Manzoids look bad. But it would make me feel so good to see her face.

  63. Rachel
    September 9, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    when danielle said that her forwarding TSIL’s emails -that were trashing T- to the producers is how TSIL and TB got on the show, Andy never denied it…didn’t even shake his head or anything. I feel like if Dina would have stayed on the show and TSIL and Kathy never got on the show, the producers would have probably started a “beef” between Dina and Jac.

  64. Grand-Beth
    September 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    I will say, ( also ) after reading some of the cases Ts attorney has handled and some of his background info, does make me feel a little bit better about at least her case. I think having a former assistant US district attorney who has tried other Federal cases will be an asset to her case. someone is giving her good advice.

  65. September 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Regarding Penny throwing T under the bus, maybe she is talking about exposing Bravo, also it seems Joe gorga might have been talking about the rumors when he met Meho ( group sex) rather than cheating. Just wondering…

  66. Suck it Gorga
    September 9, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    A little confused…wasn’t the tweet that read by Joe Gorga in Az this one??
    Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
    @Keena620 @melissagorga she did wt! Really Mel u want to go there! How did u meet Joe ? Bitch
    7:32 AM – 17 Oct 12

    So this tweet was done in October?? But now he is finally reading it in Az 6 months later??? Am I missing something?? Also, why does T have to go shut Penny up about TSILs own cheating problems??? MelBitch can’t defend herself?? And…to answer JoGo…yes. Teresa has been in this position before. The magazines bad blogs accuse T and her husband of a bad marriage and cheating problems all the time. T even wrote a couple personal blogs about that on her website.

    • GPM
      September 9, 2013 at 11:59 AM

      I think TB and TSIL are relying on Tre to defend TSIL because she’s the only one who can do it — she’s the only one who doesn’t know what really went on and could credibly claim TSIL’s innocence! TSIL’s former friends would OWN TSIL.

  67. NCGal
    September 9, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Penny may NOT be throwing Tre under the bus. FRE i saying “your sister” was in response to who invited Penny to the Milania launch..

    Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityE 24m
    Penny’s blog up shortly. FYI, “your sister” was in reference to question abt who invited @PDKhair to Milania Launch! #RHONJ #TeamTeresa

    • Monique
      September 9, 2013 at 12:55 PM

      If that’s the case than my damn Bravo and their editing!!! How deceiving! Haha!

    • September 9, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      That is what I am thinking, when Penny said something about covering up for them for 2 years, I think she means Bravo.

  68. RHOFW
    September 9, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    http://filenuke.com/t8zpnnqsfspt

    Link to wwhl with Danielle

  69. charok
    September 9, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    hmm radar online has this little article about TSIL calling TB a psycho and an idiot after the wine glass shattering heard around the world….plus quite a few anti TB and TSIL comments on here too…very unlike ROL who are anti tre

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/09/joe-gorga-teresa-giudice-melissa-gorga-real-housewives-new-jersey/

    this comment “I stopped reading after “Joe Gorga the Italian Stallion” could not stop laughing.” made me LOL too

  70. A.
    September 11, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    I need to talk about something that is bothering me. Obviously none of us would put it past Danielle to lie, but on WWHL she implied her only communication was with Melissa to tell her she wanted no part in bringing her on the show.

    Danielle has ADMITTED (via twitter) that Melissa told her about Teresa not acknowledging her nephew – so they must have had more communication then Danielle and Melissa are letting on.

    WHY ISN’T DANIELLE RELEASING THE EMAILS FROM MELISSA?
    She forwarded a bunch to the S1 producer, and told Teresa to ask her for them – yet won’t release them on her own.
    WHY?
    Will they incriminate Danielle in something? Why isn’t anyone asking Danielle to see them??

  71. February 18, 2016 at 12:35 PM

    The following is an excerpt from Danielle’s upcoming memoir; it is an essay written by her eldest daughter, Christine Staub.

    When I think of my mother, Danielle Staub, I picture someone beautiful and strong. A single parent, sexual abuse survivor, gay rights advocate, and a fearless defender of those she loves. My mother has a big heart, and I am grateful for the sacrifices she made to provide for my sister and me. I admire her for overcoming great odds. If you believe what you’ve read about my mother in the press, you probably just rolled your eyes. That’s OK—I’m used to that.

    It has been us against the world since the first day my mother appeared on The Real Housewives of New Jersey. In her two seasons on the show—and the half dozen years following—my mother has been described in many ways. She’s been called trash, garbage, a pig, an extortionist, a felon, a husband stealer. She was even branded as a “prostitution whore.” Imagine an irate woman flipping over a table as she screamed that name at my mother. Actually, you don’t have to imagine at all, because the scene lives on as one of the most iconic moments in reality television history. As for me, I don’t need to be reminded. My little sister and I were there. We saw the table fly on our mother, we heard the expletives, we ran as fast as we could to try to catch up catch up as she was chased around the restaurant, and we heard her cries for help. We felt helpless and unable to defend her.

    My name is Christie Staub, and for more than half of my life, my identity can be summed up in one sentence: daughter of one of the most notorious figures in unscripted television history.

    In May I will graduate from Seton Hall with a 4.0 and double major in psychology and sociology. I’ve already been accepted to an Ivy League graduate school on full scholarship. While higher education might not be a prized commodity in the reality show universe—at least, it wasn’t on my mother’s show, with characters being blatantly dismissive of the need for college—it is something my family values. One day, I hope to be a medical professional. I already know what the job entails, because I was born with a rare heart condition. I had my first heart attack at age nine and since then have spent the years in and out of doctor’s offices.You didn’t see this on television, but everyone knew about my condition behind the scenes—which of course didn’t stop producers and housewives from terrorizing my mother in front of my face. There were lots of things you never saw, both onscreen and off.

    Freshman year of high school, for example, I was cornered by a group of football players. “C’mon, Christine,” one of them said, as he motioned towards his crotch. “I’m ready for my daily blow job.” I was mortified. Not to mention confused. Behind him, the other guys snickered. “Don’t be shy, Christine,” he said, moving closer. “I mean, isn’t this what you and your mom do for fun?”

    This wasn’t about a 14-year-old freshman. This was about fame, and insinuating someone’s daughter was a “slut-in-the-making” made for great TV.

    I had no idea what they were talking about. My sister and I didn’t watch the Real Housewives. We had seen enough crazy when we filmed, and I was more focused on grades and athletics than TV or boys. I called my mother and told her what the boys said. Moments later, she arrived at the school to discover me in full panic attack mode. After she read the riot act to a nonchalant school administrator and threatened to file a police report, I asked her, “What was the boy talking about, mom?”

    My mother told me the truth. During an on-camera interview, one of the housewives proclaimed that my mother had predilection for giving daily blow-jobs to random men. She had a good source—or so she claimed—and found the information highly disturbing. If the mother was that much of a ho-bag slut, she insinuated, just imagine what she was teaching her daughters? Enter football players in search of their daily blowjobs and my mom racing to the high school to rescue me.

    Even if this housewife had known truth, it wouldn’t have made a difference. Even if she’d known how the soundbite affected me, she still would have said it. This wasn’t about a 14-year-old freshman. This was about fame, and insinuating someone’s daughter was a “slut-in-the-making” made for great TV. A teenage girl hyperventilating in the Principal’s Office? Nobody wanted to see that.

    With each episode, the bullying and harassment grew worse. After another housewife said my sister and I appeared “dead in the eyes,” strangers felt the need to repeat the line to us. When the show labeled my mother a criminal, people called us the children of a felon.

    My mother’s storyline was edited and produced, placing her in scenarios to achieve a desired outcome. She wouldn’t normally be involved in these scenarios; they were dictated by the producers, and they just told my mom where to show up for filming. In season one, my mother didn’t expect this to happen. These were the early days of reality shows. In 2006, The Hills was in its first season, and the Real Housewives franchise had yet to become a household name. Today, reality stars are savvy, but a decade ago, talent lacked a frame of reference. Other than Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, my mother had never seen a reality show. Just be myself, she thought. Little did she know that myself is how the producers choose to present you. Every story arc needs an antagonist and a protagonist—that is what creates the conflict and resolution, i.e. the drama.

    Imagine if all of the arguments you’ve had in your life were filmed by a stranger, and they took out the worst things you said, edited it together, and then presented the footage on TV to define your character. Would you say that characterization was accurate? Anything that is produced, and edited in this manner, is fictitious by default, but unlike an actor, my mother didn’t have the advantage of hiding behind a character, not to mention that the term reality forms a perception that is impossible to overcome when the viewers aren’t aware of what goes down behind the scenes.

    The producers had the power to manipulate my mother in anyway they pleased to increase ratings. When the second season ended, my mother decided to leave the show. The network portrayed her decision as her getting fired, but she left to save her life and her kids.

    Leaving the Real Housewives, though, isn’t easy. The show continues to air all over the world, and the character that was produced for my mother has been impossible to overcome. My mother can’t find work because of the preconceived notion America has about her. Since she left the show, my family has fallen on hard times.

    In the end, we had no choice but to run. We packed a few suitcases and left my hometown in New Jersey. Overnight, I left the only home I’d ever known for a nondescript apartment in an anonymous town. We didn’t have furniture, so we slept on blow-up mattresses. I worried about my grades. I missed three weeks of school as my mom desperately searched for an educational institution where I would receive more respect and protection—a place where fellow students would not demand blowjobs.

    I missed my bedroom. I missed furniture. But in the end, I found something much better. I felt safe. Unfortunately, there are some things you cannot ever escape. Even now, all these years later, people see me as a character created by a producer. They see me as the daughter of an infamous reality show prostitution whore. They may not have called me garbage like they called my mother, but that’s how they made me feel. They took away my name and my voice.

    My name is Christine Staub, and I will no longer be the excess debris created by a produced, manipulated, pseudo-reality universe. I will never again be a character defined by unethical producers, and exploited by networks all over the world. I am no longer a child, powerless without a voice.

    As for my mother, she has been silenced for far too long, and now it is time for her to open up about every dirty detail once and for all. I don’t care what any TV viewer believes her to be, or how any media outlet defines her. I know who she is, and I admire her. Now I have a voice, and the time has come for my mother to reclaim her own—to reclaim the respect she deserves.

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/growing-up-as-the-daughter-of-a-real-housewife

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