Home > Season 5 Commentary and Housewives' Blogs > Melissa Gorga Blogs “I Honestly Did Not Want to Do Therapy and Healing” at the Arizona Spa; Teresa Giudice Blogs That She is Upset with Caroline Manzo for Calling Her Superficial (Updated 10/21/2013)

Melissa Gorga Blogs “I Honestly Did Not Want to Do Therapy and Healing” at the Arizona Spa; Teresa Giudice Blogs That She is Upset with Caroline Manzo for Calling Her Superficial (Updated 10/21/2013)

September 3, 2013

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During the cast trip to Arizona on March 16-19, 2013, Wyatt Webb, a therapist for 33 years, perfectly summed up Melissa, which didn’t sit well with her. In her Bravo blog for the episode, she mocked him by calling him “the horse whisperer,” and she also wrote:

“The activity with the horse was the first one where I felt well enough to venture out. As I said that morning, I honestly did not want to do therapy and healing. Not that I didn’t want to heal our family, I just wanted to relax and for everyone to have a good time and enjoy our vacation. We had just done therapy at Lake George. We needed a break

“The horse therapy seemed to work for some and not for others. I was more than turned off by the ‘horse whisperer’ sizing me up within a few seconds of meeting me. It seemed a little too contrived, but he seemed to break through to other people.

“I just wasn’t willing to go there. Part of it was skepticism about the entire idea of a horse being a Human Whisperer. Part of it was still not feeling great physically. But mainly, I couldn’t let down my guard. It would’ve taken a team of horses to kick down the wall I had up. Same thing with Joe and Teresa, apparently. Teresa and I were having fun together on the trip, but we weren’t at the point yet where we had enough trust to really open up.”

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Melissa doesn’t want therapy because she’s knows a true professional will call her out on the “game she is running,” just like Wyatt did.

The following is the transcript of Wyatt telling Melissa that when she claims she is “doing something for somebody else’s benefit” she is actually working toward an outcome that benefits only herself – in other words, she is only pretending to be nice but, in fact, she is being manipulative.

Wyatt: Do you often times, when you’re working around other people, do you try to make sure they get their needs met first before you take care of your own?

Melissa: Sometimes. I think it’s just the way I am.

Wyatt: Do you ever get resentful when you feel people don’t appreciate how much effort you put into being nice to them?

Melissa: Sometimes, maybe?

Melissa TH: I’ve been nothing but nice to Teresa. I feel like I constantly wipe the slate clean, and I don’t feel appreciated. So yeah, it’s upsetting.

Wyatt: There’s a difference between being nice and being manipulative (cut to Juicy chuckling on the bench). Anytime I’m doing anything for somebody else with the hopes for an outcome, I’m running a game.

Wyatt, showing all his teeth in a forced smile, looks at Melissa and nods his head. Melissa, at a loss for words, stares at Wyatt, looking dumbfounded.

Wyatt: Is that it?

Melissa doesn’t respond.

Wyatt: Walk in again now, lets go!

Melissa approaches the horse and tries again to get him to lift his leg. From the bench, Poison Joe tries to tell her how to do it.

Wyatt: Hey! You having a hard time watching your wife struggle?

Joe: Sometimes.

Wyatt: You know, intervening on somebody’s else’s discomfort  is not always a good thing to do because if you cheat around then she don’t learn.

Melissa TH: I just met this guy about three minutes ago, so how do you know how often I lean on my husband and how much I don’t? And I’m just not feeling the whole, “I’m looking at you and I can read into your soul.” No no no no no no no no! No, no!!!

All but Richie, Melissa, Poison Joe and Teresa are successful in working with the horse.

During the episode premiere, Teresa’s friend and co-writer of her cookbooks, Heather Maclean, tweeted that both Joe Gorga and Teresa “lifted the horse’s leg” and only Melissa didn’t; Teresa tweeted that she tried again and “finally found the strength to lift up the horse’s foot” but the scene was cut; shortly after Teresa’s tweet, Richie tweeted, “By the way this didn’t air but I got all 4 of the horse’s legs up at ONCE! That’s the truth!!!”

A follower asked Andy Cohen on September 6th why Bravo didn’t post Teresa’s blog from her website, where she called producers out for not showing her “lifting the horse’s leg.” Andy replied: “Don’t know about the blog. Leg lift was hour later, all had gone.”

If they were paying attention, they would see that it is the horse that lifts his leg at the person’s touch and then the person is supposed to catch it – the horse lifts its leg for the person, it’s not the person lifting it up.

They all finish their attempts with the horse (Caroline and Al going last).

Caroline TH: I was amazed as I watched Teresa and Melissa. They didn’t open up. They didn’t get what the exercise was supposed to mean. It’s about challenging yourself in front of other people, and that’s something they can’t do. To me, that’s very telling.

Melissa (on the bench, chewing gum): Look, see, it lifts for them before they even touch it.

Wyatt (shaking his head at Melissa): It ain’t the horse (Melissa, lowers her head and scratches her nose).

Wyatt: You know why this happened so easily? Both of these people (Caroline and Al) are in touch with their emotional bodies. These guys were not guarded at all!

Wyatt to Caroline and Al: Terrific stuff man!

Wyatt: So! What might be one thing you might take with you?

Melissa, rolling her eyes, scowling at Wyatt and whispering to herself: That I can’t lift a horse’s leg.

Wyatt: Here’s what I saw. The more vulnerable you can be, the better. Every time. That’s the point. Hear me?

Teresa nods her head.

Wyatt: Thank you.

The cast returns to their villas. Teresa is talking to Melissa and Poison at their villa.

Poison: How’d you feel about today?

Teresa: I don’t know!? I mean, I really didn’t get it!

Poison: It really didn’t help me, but what I liked about him was, if you have some weakness, he was able to figure that out.

Teresa: But like, I didn’t. I really don’t have insecurities or, I feel like I am, I’m Teresa. Like, I don’t try to impress people. I’m, I’m just me!

Cut to Kathy and Richie at their villa talking about the therapy, and then back to the Gorga’s villa.

Teresa: People who have insecurities or, you know, have issues, it was a good thing for them. I was afraid of horses, like that was my big thing, that’s why I couldn’t do it.

Melissa: My thing was that we met him for three seconds so I don’t (motions with her hands like, WTF, and scowls). How could he know someone from just looking at them. He’s psychic?

Caroline TH: Everybody opened up and tried to tell their truth. I’ve said time and again that Melissa and Teresa are the same person. They just cannot open up! It’s all superficial.

Back to Poison, Melissa and Teresa at the Gorga’s villa. Teresa flicks her tongue to the corner of her mouth, licking her lips (something she’s been doing since late in season 4) and Melissa flips her hair.

Teresa: Like, I’m tired of crying. I can’t wait to do spa treatments.

Melissa: Yeah! Like, let’s do stuff like that.

Melissa faked having a sore throat AGAIN in less than three months because she was trying to avoid therapy, but Bravo must have forced her to participate on the second day. If she were truly sick enough to be hospitalized and given morphine plus four other kinds of medicine, she wouldn’t have been sunbathing and she wouldn’t have been fine the next day, curtsying and strutting like a “whore-on-a-stroll walk.”

The following is Melissa’s Bravo blog and Teresa’s personal blog for season 5 episode 14.

Turned Off by the Horse Whisperer
By Melissa Gorga
September 2, 2013
Melissa wasn’t feeling the equine therapy session.

Hi, everyone. Happy Labor Day! Hope you’re all barbecuing, swimming and having a great time with loved ones. We’re down the shore, soaking up the last sparkling days of summer before fall madness begins. It’s going to be an insane September this year.

For one thing, we’re moving! Joe and I finally sold our Montville house. We are going to rent a place for now while we build our new home in Franklin Lakes. Packing? Not fun! I’m way too OCD about our things to let movers do it all for us. I have to make sure every plate is wrapped up perfectly and put into boxes in just the right way. Meanwhile, the kids start their new school soon. We’ve got a lot of back to school shopping to do!

And, then there’s my BOOK LAUNCH! Love Italian Style comes out on September 17, just two weeks from now. I’ve been waiting for this day for months, and it’s so close. I simply CANNOT WAIT to share the story of Joe and I with you all, and to meet you at my events and signings.

On to last night’s episode… This was a strange one for me. I’m not going to sugar coat it, when I was told we were going to a spa resort in Arizona to celebrate my birthday, this is not exactly what I pictured. I don’t even think Joe quite understood what Miraval was. Getting sick on top of it just made things worse.

The activity with the horse was the first one where I felt well enough to venture out. As I said that morning, I honestly did not want to do therapy and healing. Not that I didn’t want to heal our family, I just wanted to relax and for everyone to have a good time and enjoy our vacation. We had just done therapy at Lake George. We needed a break.

The horse therapy seemed to work for some and not for others. I was more than turned off by the “horse whisperer” sizing me up within a few seconds of meeting me. It seemed a little too contrived, but he seemed to break through to other people.

Rosie, as always, hit me in the soft spot. Just love her to death. I didn’t know Albert had had such a rough childhood. I was happy to see him open up. He is truly a great man. Kathy and Rich seemed to have a breakthrough. I think everyone’s collective jaw dropped when Joe Giudice admitted to being afraid about his legal matters. Of course, Joe and I wish the best for the Giudices and their beautiful girls. Joe’s humbling moment really moved us. He really seemed to get a lot out of the stable-side therapy experience.

I just wasn’t willing to go there. Part of it was skepticism about the entire idea of a horse being a Human Whisperer. Part of it was still not feeling great physically. But mainly, I couldn’t let down my guard. It would’ve taken a team of horses to kick down the wall I had up. Same thing with Joe and Teresa, apparently. Teresa and I were having fun together on the trip, but we weren’t at the point yet where we had enough trust to really open up. Some things can’t be willed. They have to come naturally. Pony steps…

Stay tuned as always to see if we eventually do move through the bad stuff, and get to a place of harmony and comfort with each other, which is what we all want.

Check out my newest single “Never Let Me Go” on iTunes now.

RHONJ: “The Horse Whisperer”
By Teresa Giudice, TeresaGiudice.com
September 3, 2013

Hello Loveys!

Hope you are all enjoying the last weekend of summer! My kids don’t go back to school for another whole week, but we’re at the Shore one last time, grilling up a storm of course! “Fabulicious! On the Grill” is available in bookstores everywhere and on Amazon.

Well, I loved this episode & I hated it. I loved it because I really loved the entire experience in Arizona. I love new things. You didn’t see me making fun of the counselors or putting it down or whining in bed because I really appreciated everything about it. Part of life is to keep learning new stuff, and I love that. I was open to everything: the drums, the psychic, the horse, the high-wire. We were there to get some healing, and I was ready. I was tired of crying! Some good vibes and happiness were welcome!

I hated this episode though because you got to see everyone else’s full experience with Wyatt the Horse Whisperer except mine. I know they can’t show everything, but both my brother and I were able to approach the horse with openness and honesty, and he lifted his leg for both of us. For me, it was a really big accomplishment, and I’m sorry you didn’t get to see it. I’m also sorry that Melissa chose to speak for me on Twitter and say that we all regretted not opening up for the horse. I don’t regret it because I did open up! Why she alone didn’t is for her to explain…

Everyone is afraid of something, and for me, full-grown, giant-ass animals that I’ve never been around before are it! I was so freaked out that the horse would turn around and bite me or kick me or something. It’s no joke! Maybe if I had known the horse since it was a pony, I wouldn’t have been afraid of it, but I didn’t. I had a bad experience on a horse once in Aruba. And I know animals sense fear, so that made my fear even worse!

But one thing I’m not is a quitter. I like to push myself and learn new things about myself, and I didn’t want to give up. I did get the horse to lift its leg for me, I did scrape its hoof, and I was soooooo proud of myself afterwards!

I’m super bummed that some of the people that were there with me like Caroline and Kathy and Melissa, who saw me overcome my fear and work with the horse successfully, acted like I didn’t. Everyone is afraid of different things. Caroline grew up on a farm, so the horse was no problem for her. It was scary and different and strange for me. The next day when we were up on the high-wire, I had no problem, but Caroline had a melt-down. Heights are really hard for her. She was hysterical crying, and wouldn’t do it. I didn’t judge her or say she wasn’t opening herself up. I knew it was hard for her. I encouraged her, reminding her that I overcame my fear with the horses, and she could overcome her fear of heights.

For Caroline to say I’m just like Melissa, and that I’m superficial, says a lot about her character. She saw that I did open myself up to the experience, so for her to lie like that makes no sense to me. I thought we were there for healing, and I certainly didn’t belittle her for her fears. She was miserable the entire trip, fighting with Albert the whole time. And she has the nerve to say I didn’t embrace it? Disappointing.

You could see how into the whole experience I was when Jacqueline was up there crying and I ran up to give her a hug. I was just really happy the whole time, so happy we were all there to support each other.

We were filming at the ranch for hours and hours, and at one point, natured called and my Joe got up to go to the bathroom. When he was walking back, Milania called, so he answered. He waved me over so I could talk to her too. We had been there all day, and I wanted to make sure there wasn’t anything wrong at home. I missed my girls! I can’t believe of all people that Kathy didn’t understand that, but I guess she and Rich have a limited memory for things. For Rich to talk about my husband delaying legal issues is insane to me. My husband cannot control the legal system, and Rich of all people knows this. Rich’s had his fair share of lawsuits and I would never comment about his behavior in them. Shameful.

I’m glad you got to see a lot of the good times we do have though. Joe resting his head on my shoulder. Albert opening up. Caroline saying she wanted to hug Joe. Chris saying he loved me. Jacqueline and I cleaning the bottom of each other’s shoes… I think you got to see a lot of honest interactions, and different sides to all of us.

As always, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support! It means the world to me.

Kim Granatell ‏@Kimgranatell 29 Oct
@Adam_Barta’s new music video! Wonder who it’s supposed to be at end? Looks like her! http://youtu.be/A3KpHmLpMjE #RHONJ pic.twitter.com/ob9jo5miNm

Adam Barta ‏@bartaofficial 30 Oct
“@Kimgranatell: @Adam_Barta’s new music video! Wonder who it’s supposed to be at end? http://youtu.be/A3KpHmLpMjE is it Theresa? #RHONJ

Teresa took offense to a comment that Caroline made in episode 14, where she asserted in her confessional (TH) that Teresa and Melissa were both superficial. In her blog for the episode (see above), Teresa said that Caroline and her husband Albert fought the entire time the couples were in Arizona on a retreat for Melissa’s birthday. And then during part two of the season 5 reunion, Caroline called Teresa out on her blog. Teresa said the comments she made in her blog were based on heresy: “That’s what I heard,” and that said she wrote those things because she was hurt that Caroline said she was superficial. The following is a transcript of the discussion about this between Teresa and Caroline during reunion 5.

Teresa: You hurt me by saying I was superficial.

Caroline: I didn’t attack you. I made a simple observation over one moment in time.

Teresa: Well, I was really hurt.

(Let the record reflect that Teresa once said she would only live in a brand-new house because used houses are “gross,” although she did recently say she regretted that comment because it gave people the wrong impression about her – that she was superficial.)

Caroline: Thirty seconds of time that you are now harping on ’til the day I freaking die. You have decided to take everything that I have done for you and your family and just sweep it under the rug and discount it …

Teresa: I apologized to you.

When Melissa attempts to say something, Teresa cuts her off: This is the third season now. One starts, the other jumps on …

Andy Cohen asks Teresa: Them telling you how they feel is jumping on you?

Melissa: I feel like the only way to be good with you is to do what Jacqueline is doing right now and not say a word.

Teresa reiterates that she was really hurt by Caroline’s comment and wants her to admit that Teresa does have a good heart. Caroline says she can’t say that is true. Caroline tells Teresa that she needs to move forward and get over it. And then Caroline gets REALLY mad and starts shouting at Teresa.

Caroline: I’m not gonna hurt you. I won’t consider you an enemy. I consider you somebody I used to know. That the way I have to do it for my own sanity.

After part one of the reunion special aired, both housewives took to their Bravo blogs. In Teresa’s October 8 blog (see below), she accused Caroline of pretending all season and continued to harp on the comments.

‘When Caroline said I didn’t take the therapy in Arizona seriously and called me superficial, it hurt me,’ Teresa wrote. ‘Who is she to call me superficial?’

Calling Out Caroline (Excerpt)
By Teresa Giudice
October 8, 2013
Teresa gives her side of the argument with Caroline.

Of course, I’m not perfect, some things did get to me. When Caroline said I didn’t take the therapy in Arizona seriously and called me superficial, it hurt me. Who is she to call me superficial? She was there and saw that I was taking it seriously, that I was bonding with my brother, and that it was important to me. I went to Arizona with an open heart. I was serious about working out our issues, and got a lot out of it. We all experienced something different out there. I don’t pretend to know her intentions, but she pretends to know mine.

When I was writing my blog that week, it occurred to me that that’s what Caroline was doing all season: pretending. She was trying to put out that she was this happy, changed person, but didn’t embrace it as much as she pretended to, she didn’t even go up on the high wire. So I pointed that out. It wasn’t the nicest thing to do, but I was upset. I knew she would read it and not be happy because she’s Caroline Manzo! It’s this crazy, unwritten rule: no one is supposed to ever point out anything about her or her life. She can only talk about ours. It wasn’t a big deal, it was just a little shade in return for her lying about me. Not very mature I know, and I’m sorry for it. And I apologized for it immediately to her face, but of course, she didn’t apologize to me. To be expected. I didn’t expect it to be such a big deal at the Reunion, but I guess that’s a good sign that the Reunion was pretty calm, cool, and collected since that was our “big fight.”

I wish when Caroline and I were talking that everyone else didn’t keep jumping in. That’s my least favorite part about the Reunions, everyone talking over each other. If the conversation doesn’t have to do with you, keep your mouth shut. Why is Rosie jumping in to tell me how to talk to Caroline? It’s like they love to jump on other people’s bandwagons so the talk doesn’t come back around to them.

Speaking of pretending… Everyone can pretend they’ve never heard of Penny and Johnny, that “these people, these strangers, these roaches” were brought into our family by me, but they all know it’s not true. We live in a small town and we ALL cross paths with the same people all the time. The sad part is after all this, I’m very cautious now about who comes up to be friends with me because everyone knows who I am, and I don’t know them or their families or what their intentions are.

As I’ve always said, I personally have only seen Penny and Johnny at public events. When I heard that they were trying to get Penny cast as a new Housewife on Twitter, I started staying away from them because they were bashing Melissa to do it. I know some people think you can get cast on a show by offering to bash people already on it, and apparently it does work sometimes, but it’s not my thing, and I wanted no part of it. I get it that lots of people want to get on TV. If you can get cast, God bless you. Just please don’t do it by bashing my family. Be fabulous and interesting and have a great life that people want to watch and I’m sure Bravo will call you!

Like I said on the Reunion, I’m done done done with all this family drama. If anyone wants to keep believing I did things that I didn’t do, that’s on them. I’ve apologized, I’m trying to move forward with my life, and to me, that chapter is closed. I’m never going to get to that ugly place with anyone again. I just won’t allow it. I won’t allow anyone to drag me in.

RHONJ Reunion: I’m Stumped! (Excerpt)
By Teresa Giudice, TeresaGiudice.com
October 14, 2013

Alright, so how do we close out this season? I’m sorry to say that we didn’t close it out on the Reunion exactly how we did in real life. There’s a lot of footage to go through since we taped for 15 hours, but happily we did end with a lot of love and peace and forgiveness. I’m really proud of everyone, myself included, for that. We’ve all been through a lot together, and I think we’ve all grown and learned from our mistakes.

My “final words” last night were NOT final words about the season and not at the end of the Reunion after we’d all made up, but final words about what we all talked about with Dr. V. Right after Dr. V. left, there was still some confusion about the argument between me and Caroline and I wanted to make sure it was set right. Caroline does a great job of putting words in other people’s mouths. One time in reference to her actually being older than the rest of us, I said she was “older.” She twists that around and says I said “you’re old and you only have a few good years left.” Um what? I express how happy I am to see hope for Jacqueline’s and my friendship, and Caroline says, “You said Jacqueline is your only true friend.” No I did not. I usually don’t care, but I’m not going to have her, of all people, call me a liar.

Truth be told, I really don’t care that she called me “superficial” — not anymore anyway — but the day I saw it on the episode it bothered me because she is a faker. Fine. So I wrote in my blog that she puts on a front and her and Albert were really miserable the whole time. The funny thing is it wasn’t even on my Bravo blog, but on my personal website blog. I didn’t think she read my website, and I certainly didn’t expect her to bring it up at the Reunion and get so dramatic about it. It wasn’t a lie and she knows it. She is miserable every single trip we take and yes, we’ve all seen her fighting with Albert. She did it in Italy, in Napa, everywhere. It’s not like I said (or ever would say!) someone was cheating or anything. I was just pointing out that she’s not as honest as she pretends to be about her feelings, so she shouldn’t judge others.

And I don’t know why she took my comment as such a big deal though because it’s not. All married couples fight. We all just don’t work so hard to pretend we don’t. That was my problem, that she’s so quick to pass judgment on everyone else’s marriage and finances and even our emotions, when she isn’t honest about herself. Remember the whole “You heard it here first” comment from her about me and Joe? She had numerous times to take it back and refused. Fine, that’s who she is. I just wanted to let her know that I don’t play her game. But I am big enough to see that the whole thing is petty and stupid, and I did apologize directly to her.

I didn’t love that she was talking about my finances on the Reunion, but at the time which you didn’t get to see, Joe defended me immediately, and I defended myself. I do work hard and make my own money. You haven’t seen my husband buy me an Hermes bag or brag about fancy cars. We’re really not like that. We bought our house for $500,000 and we’ve lived in it for 12 years*. We took a “used” house and fixed it up. We’ve both of us worked hard every single day.

Anyway, I would never go backwards at the end of the Reunion when everything was settled and good to bring up the Caroline “superficial” comment again. Believe me, I’m not that superficial! Caroline and I hashed it all out like you’re supposed to do at a Reunion, and then it was over. Why it was moved to look like I brought it up again, like I was harping on it, is beyond me. I’m stumped! I wish they could’ve left the Reunion as it really was: we were all at peace with each other and happy.

I was kind of hoping that Danielle or Kim D. or Dina or even Penelope Cruz would have come out when Andy was teasing us. I would like to see everything resolved with everyone. But I guess that’s for Season 6…

Again, from the very bottom of my heart, thank you to everyone for sticking by us.

*Note from Fame: The Giudices have not been living in their current home for 12 years, as Teresa stated in her blog. They weren’t even living in the mansion while season 1 was taping – they took loans to finish the renovations more quickly so they could move into it, but it wasn’t finished by the time season 1 started taping in 2008 – Teresa would not let Bravo tape her at her primary residence at the time – the “hole” that she was living in, as described by Danielle in the season 1 finale. RHONJ season 1 premiered on May 12, 2009 (10 episodes) – in the last scene of the season 1 finale, after the infamous table flip, Danielle was carping about Teresa and her former home before moving into the mansion:

“Teresa’s threatening me as I’m leaving. She goes, ‘You’re lucky you’re leaving in one piece.’

“I would take her down. She talks. She ‘Blah blah blah blah.’  I just looked at her like, ‘Are you kidding?’

“And let’s not mention the little hole she was living in before she moved into the mansion she’s living in now. Frickin’ linoleum floors. Unfreakin’ believable.

“I don’t take threats kindly. Dina threatened me once and look where it got here – her whole family turned against her on that one.”

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  1. parkview
    September 3, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Did she really say “morphine drip”? Is she joking? Does she know what kind of dire condition a person has to be in to be on a morphine drip? Either she is lying or she sees the same Doc as Jac.

    • adioslunatic
      September 3, 2013 at 7:05 AM

      @ parkview
      It must be the same doctor that performed open heart surgery through her back…[insert sarcastic smirk here]

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        September 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM

        You mean the *scar-less* open heart surgery?

        • adioslunatic
          September 3, 2013 at 8:57 AM

          @ saddle Yep -THAT one.
          I searched and searched to see if ANY surgeon, ANYWHERE performs that type of open heart and even with ALL the advances I came up empty handed.

          She probably has to keep modifying her nose with surgery because she lies so much it grows quicker than her plastic surgeon can keep up, lol!

          • Southern
            September 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM

            Melissa talking the same b.s. as usual.

          • September 3, 2013 at 10:41 PM

            They actually do perform heart surgery through the back as it’s less invasive depending on the DX. I believe her on this one. Cracking the chest open on a young child is not ideal. I don’t believe her mom chose this so wouldn’t have a scar — the doctors choose.

            • adioslunatic
              September 4, 2013 at 6:04 AM

              @ Mz This was almost 20 yrs ago and I have seen the procedure that you speak of (Posterolateral thoracotomy) and the incision is still large. Large enough to definitely be visible in a bikini. It’s like a railroad track.

              Picture: http://www.beliefnet.com/healthandhealing/images/thoracic%20drains.jpg

              The best I can find is that this procedure has only been performed since mid-late 90s.

              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16093031

              She is a liar, liar, pants on fire.

            • adioslunatic
              September 4, 2013 at 6:05 AM

              Also..She claims a small scar on her shoulder is from the surgery, not where this is actually performed.

      • September 3, 2013 at 12:29 PM

        I happened to have open heart surgery last february and although my surgeon did the sternum deal, another surgeon in his practice would have gone through the ribs (assuming this is what Mego was talking about) although the recovery is apparently more painful if they do it that way rather than sawing you open – which really didn’t hurt for long –

        • adioslunatic
          September 4, 2013 at 6:19 AM

          God bless you,Daisy.

          Please see my response to Mz regarding the placement and size of that type of procedure- plus, it was not an alternative when MeHo claims to have had it performed…

      • yup
        September 3, 2013 at 4:04 PM

        actually she did show the scar on her back on one of the reunions. I know she’s a liar, but I believe she was honest about the heart surgery.

        • Jeannie5233
          September 3, 2013 at 4:37 PM

          I agree, yup. She appeared on the hospital’s magazine cover (the name escapes me), done fundraising, and made appearances to raise money for the hospital where she had the surgery when she was, I think, seven years old.

          • September 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM

            Deborah heart and Lung Hospital does claim TSIL as a pediatric patient.
            ” and former Deborah pediatric patient Melissa Gorga, star of Bravo’s Desperate Housewives of New Jersey”
            http://www.deborah.org/7News/2012/9-24.html

            At Richie’s party on RHONJ – “Then he (Joe) points out Melissa’s scar on her back from when she had surgery on her aorta when she was a kid. “I’m the second person in the world to have heart surgery through the back,” Melissa proudly states.”
            http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/full_story/15256768/article–RECAP–The-Real-Housewives-of-New-Jersey-%E2%80%93-Season-3–Episode-15-

            Second person in the whole world? If that is true wouldn’t the Hospital latch on to that to advertise their success? or and it next to her name to the news article above?

            I do however think it is strange that TSIL claims in her book on page 187 and 188 that it is a huge scar. I have seen several photos of her back showing and I can not see a scar. Of course it could be well covered with makeup or photoshoped.

            I have a hard time believing that a mother who does not have health insurance as TSIL clams in her book, could demand the surgery be performed on thee through the back so her child would have no scar on her chest.

            coarctation of the aorta- TSIL was seven years old

            Methods and Results Between 1979 and 1993, 125 infants and children underwent PTFE patch aortoplasty for CoAo; 111 of the procedures were primary repairs, and 14 were reoperations. Diagnoses were isolated CoAo (96 patients), CoAo and ventricular septal defect (15 patients), and CoAo with complex intracardiac anomaly (14 patients). Patient age at the time of repair ranged from 4 days to 17 years (mean age, 5.1±4.5 years). http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/92/9/132.full

            “Twenty years ago, surgery was the only treatment available for aortic coarctation.” http://my.clevelandclinic.org/heart/disorders/congenital/coarctation_of_the_aorta.aspx

            What is the activity levels of children after surgery of coarctation of the aorta? in a 1989 video TSIL is standing on a table infront of the couch while her father is filming her sing and dance. ( about 3 years after surgery ) Could the repair needed on the aorta have been on the lower scale? What is an appropriate exercise routine?

            • Annie
              September 4, 2013 at 8:24 PM

              No love for TSIL but…Deborah Hospital is wonderful! They depend on donations. They are a non profit teaching hospital. My Mom had no insurance when she first started going there. They turn no one away. They offer a lot of trials for both heart patients and diabetics. So it’s very possible they tried a “cutting edge” procedure on her. Doctors do think about scaring in young children. Kids recover a lot quicker than you think. After three years,she would be back to her normal activities (within reason) if there were no complications.

        • JUST ME P
          September 3, 2013 at 7:06 PM

          MAY BE THE SCAR SHE SHOWED ON HER BACK WAS FROM A WART REMOVAL, DON’T BITCHES GET WARTS ON THE BODY?? ooops I MEAN WITCHES

        • September 3, 2013 at 7:52 PM
        • adioslunatic
          September 4, 2013 at 6:10 AM

          @ yup
          No, she did not. It was the Hookah restaurant, we never saw it and her husband was pointing to the top of her shoulder blade- the procedure is performed under the shoulder blade.
          She is a lying sociopath.
          I would bet money she got the scar from a bar fight and had to think of something that would elicit pity rather than repulsion…there is NOTHING more disgusting than girls/women fighting – we all know MeHo likes a good fight and gets in the thick of it like she loves it.

          • September 4, 2013 at 8:50 AM

            I think TB likes a cafight between his wife and sister also. Maybe TSIL’s lack of interest in Tarzan motivated TB to start something.

            TB and TSIL could be manipulating the truth about her care at Deborah hospital to gain fans. She wore a fat suit for the same reason and I also think that is why she prayed to Jesus on camera.

            • adioslunatic
              September 4, 2013 at 9:58 AM

              @ Kay
              With. Out. A. Doubt.

              How are you today, babe?

    • September 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM

      Hey! When I go to the EMERGENCY ROOM for a virus they give me morphine on a drip, too. And a three month supply to take home, too. F*** the people in there with broken bones and heart attacks! They hook you right up.

      • adioslunatic
        September 3, 2013 at 9:40 AM

        @ Gessie

        Is that the Hospital of the Sacred Junkie? I hear it was Michael Jackson’s and Elvis’ fave…

    • corky21
      September 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

      She’s a baby, a big whiner. They told her the bag was a morphine drip and it was not. I believe they use this tactic on people who beg for something. I was in the hospital for extreme stomach pain that I had been having for about four months every week or so. It would last a few hours, worst pain ever. Finally I went to the ER. They said they gave me a shot of morphine. Well, after an hour, same dire pain, told them it didn’t work. They gave me another shot and said it was morphine, again, nothing worked. It took a few hours as usual from when I was at home for it to subside. They did all types of test and found nothing, but it was the worst pain ever, felt like maybe birth contractions, not sure, never experienced that, as I had C-section do to huge boy. But I think they told me it was morphine and it wasn’t, because they don’t like to give that out unless it’s a dire necessity, but they may tell you it is, you know the placebo effect.

    • bobby brooks
      September 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

      Melissa didn’t say she was on a “morphine drip”, she said they gave her morphine for her pain. They could have given her a shot of morphine in the ER for pain, it’s not that terribly uncommon.

      I think Melissa is a total drama queen, but she never claimed to be on a morphine drip, that’s being exaggerated.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        bobby – you are correct about the “morphine drip” and I have amended my comment downthread to reflect that.

        However, I respectfully disagree with you about her being given morphine in an ER for a sore throat. Many other analgesics could have and would have been administered for something such as a sore throat before a narcotic as strong as morphine would have been used. No way. Been around the drug and know a thing or two and I know it is strictly monitored and is not so cavalierly prescribed or used for something that is not so serious. I had to keep the stuff locked up in a box in my own home – that is how serious my state takes about adminstration and possession.

        • bobby brooks
          September 3, 2013 at 3:36 PM

          But we don’t know, it’s possible she was given a shot of morphine for pain, especially since she was probably wailing about being in the worst pain of her life. Unless there is a statement from the ER staff that treated her saying she did not get morphine, or someone gets ahold of her medical records, we just don’t know.

          • Jeannie5233
            September 3, 2013 at 4:16 PM

            Given that it was just a sore throat and not a broken leg or something much more serious, it is highly doubtful she was administered morphine, but you are right, we just don’t know.

            What we do know is TSIL has been caught so many times, that her reputation of lying and deceit precedes her. We all know that with TSIL, the line where the truth ends and the lies begin is very thin and blurry. It is very difficult to distinguish when she is telling the truth and when she is lying.

            I have to say and give you credit that you are far kinder giving TSIL the benefit of the doubt in this instance than I am!

            • bobby brooks
              September 3, 2013 at 4:28 PM

              I think in this instance, for me, it was two things. One, that I don’t think her claiming she was given morphine is really that big of a deal to begin with, like who cares! She’s a bit of an attention whore, so of course she’s got to throw that in! LOL! She was in the worst pain of her life, remember?? 🙂 Also, I think when it comes to what happens in emergency rooms, we just don’t know, it could very well be true! Not all doctors and nurses make the best judgement calls, I mean look at the guy who was giving out propofol to help you sleep!

              And second, because it became a “morphine drip” when she didn’t actually say that, it bugged me because there are plenty of legit things to bitch about regarding Melissa, instead of something that isn’t actually true.

        • Dani
          September 3, 2013 at 7:47 PM

          As a ER nurse, I can state that we push morphine for many reasons. If she had a severe sore throat, I can see it being done. Morphine is in and out of the system fast. It doesn’t last long but may have given her some temporary relief and I bet they sent her home with some oral pain meds. I am no Melissa fan but just stating what I know to be true regarding morphine.

          • yup
            September 3, 2013 at 10:37 PM

            ???

      • September 3, 2013 at 4:42 PM

        She replied to someone on Twitter that “yes, it was through her IV”.

        • bobby brooks
          September 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

          The IV has a port through which shots are given, that’s how the meds are delivered.

      • Anonymous
        September 3, 2013 at 7:51 PM

        I dont thing they gave her morphine, heck I been to the Dr here in Arizona almost dying from a cold, wish I thoght was neumonia, my husband to, sore throat, couldnt talk etc… No morphine, just heres a Tylenol, rest and lots of liquids, plus she look good the next day, sunbathing and drinking COLD water, i am old school, no cold drinks or showers during a cold! I know, jucky! but that was what my mother did and still doing it to the grand kids! LOL!

        • Dani
          September 3, 2013 at 9:26 PM

          Yes but a doctor’s office does not do what an ER does. They aren’t going to start an IV in a doc office but it is the first thing we do with most patients coming through the door in the ER despite what they have going on. We do it as a precaution in case we need the sight pronto and I have pushed IV morphine on patient’s with a severe sore throat, especially if they are having trouble swallowing and they are dehydrated. They will get IV fluids, morphine, throat swab, and flu swab along with blood work and a chest xray if they are congested.

          Just on a side note, love this site and I am not trying to be difficult but I also know my job. Melissa is a drama queen to boot and I can see her making a big stink in the ER. Everyone’s pain level is different and she doesn’t strike me as the type to suffer in silence. Pain is our fifth vital and we have to document on it properly too.

    • sittingcoffin
      September 4, 2013 at 9:47 PM

      Morphine drip is like a super last resort….usually when a person is close to death.

      • Dani
        September 6, 2013 at 3:00 AM

        Yes a drip is used for intractable pain and in the dying process. An IV morphine push is used frequently for many things. I have pushed thousands of them in my career for anything from ear pain, to back pain, to post surgical pain to name a few. It is very common. If you receive a drip, most likely you have been admitted to inpatient status but in ER and also on a medical surgical floor, morphine pushes are used for a variety of reasons.

  2. SooTired
    September 3, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Said it once I’ll say it again, Mel doesn’t want resolution, looks for reasons to perpetuate the conflict. Like taking a step forward then taking two steps back; having “therapy” like yeah ..we made some progress then snubbing her at the toast and…was it me or did she look at Teresa in the eye and say u bitch after all those smooches. She’s a slick-mouthed trouble making whore that needs a swift smack in the face for her antics. If poison wasn’t such a dim-witted pussy he’d be putting her in check and she’d be in line. Poison was the one who took her ass off the streets so he should be the one calling the shots.

    • corky21
      September 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      So true. Melissa and Tre do not like each other and never will. They can each say, it’s this or that. Tre says, Melissa is gold digger, cheating, stripper, and not the type of wife they expected for their boy Joey. Fine, probably all true. Melissa can say, Tre has been out to ruin her from the beginning, again, probably true. They don’t like each other and never will, and that is fine. I don’t like my own sister the way she treats some of us, but she will never change, so I try to be civil and get along. My BIL can at times be a bit of annoyance too, but again, just be civil and nice. They will never like each other ever. I think they realize that, but they will both still throw a dig at each other forever.

  3. HWAddict
    September 3, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    Melissa didn’t like Wyatt because the truth hurts and she can’t handle the truth.

    • MonkeyFighting
      September 5, 2013 at 10:12 AM

      Ding ding ding… We have a winner! Perfectly summed up in few words!
      Wyatt tells the truth & Melissa can’t handle ANY truth! She will never eggmit tho!

  4. September 3, 2013 at 2:37 AM

    I’m actually surprised bravo left in the ‘whore’ and ‘manipulative’ comments!!!!! Are they turning on the whorgas the same way they turned on Tre and juicy?

    I also love how Rosie (a non housewife) has more time, revelance and storyline than her twit of a sister who, honestly, is like a snake in the grass backstabbing people behind their backs.

    Loved how rich the bitch was called out!!!!!!!

    Bravo, move Wyatt to nj and make him a regular!!!!!

    Fame, what’s the time frame on the az trip? Before or after the party there jac beat johnny the Greek with her heels?

  5. JUST ME P
    September 3, 2013 at 2:58 AM

    YES SHE SAID MORPHINE DRIP, WHAT AN IDIOT, SHE CAN’T TELL THE TRUTH ON THE SIMPLEST THINGS

    LOVED WYATT, HE SURE DID HAVE MELISSA AND RICHIE PEGGED RIGHT ON.

    AS MUCH AS I HATE THE MANZOs! I AM GLAD THAT AL OPENED UP, THAT RIGHT THERE WILL HEAL THE PAIN FROM HIS CHILDHOOD….AND JUICY LETTING IT OUT WAS GOOD, IDO WISH CAROLINE WOULD BE REAL AND NOT ALWAYS SO HIGH AND MIGHTY! I KNOW EVERYTHING, I JUST WANT TO SLAP HER WHEN SHE TELLS OTHERS WHT THEY SHOULD THINK AND FEEL, SHUT UP CAROLINE, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

    • September 3, 2013 at 7:28 AM

      The woman had a sore throat. You do not get a morphine drip for a sore throat. How stupid does she think the viewers are? I mean, that’s plain old common sense. She said in her blog that she didn’t like the “horse whisperer” and that he seemed a bit contrived to her. What do you want to bet that the next thing she does is try to blame Teresa for what he said about her….that somehow it is Tre’s fault because she told him to call her out? We all know that poor TSIL is ALWAYS the sweet innocent victim who goes out of her way to mend Teresa and her brother’s relationship. *rolling my eyes* I am so tired of her games. And it looks like the shit is going to hit the fan come this Sunday. TSIL is back at her games….trying to rile Teresa. I believe she wants to be Teresa….copying the toast at dinner just like the one in CA. Does anyone want to venture a guess as to who if any of them calls the witch out? I know, I know….we’ve seen this before. Of course nobody will call her out. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone blames Tre for TSIL’s toast. And then we see TB go berserk. He really needs to lay off those steroids. Ugh….I don’t know how much more I can take of this same old song and dance…..and I don’t mean TSIL’s awful singing and dancing. But for the record I can do without that too 😉

      • Silvana
        September 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM

        Don’t forget she also doesn’t really believe in psychics either unless it was the one that had a message from her father like in season 3 but this one telling her that these rumours are not Tre’s fault is just bullshit.

        • nancy
          September 4, 2013 at 3:52 AM

          Well remembered

    • bobby brooks
      September 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      Melissa did not say she was on a “morphine drip”, she said “Joe took me to the emergency room in Arizona and I wound up spending the night there on morphine.” They very well could have given her a shot of morphine and she spent a couple of hours there.

      Melissa is a drama queen for sure, but she keeps being accused of something she didn’t actually say. If we want to nail her on telling the truth, we have to do the same.

      • September 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM

        She did say on Twitter, in response to someone else, that it was given through her IV. Not sure if that would be a drip or just a shot through her IV…

        • bobby brooks
          September 3, 2013 at 5:13 PM

          A drip is a machine that sets up a continuous dose of morphine to be delivered on a schedule, with the patient being able to administer an additional dose if needed. Any shots Melissa would have been given, like a shot for pain, would be adminstered through her IV tube, there is a port for injections, so if she was given a one time shot for pain, it would be through the IV.

      • September 3, 2013 at 4:58 PM

        They would never prescribe morphine for a virus. EVER.

        • September 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM

          Thank you, gessie!! That was the point I was trying to make.

  6. NCGal
    September 3, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Something to think about:

    Bravo has hours and hours of footage, so they can air whatever they want and focus on whatever storyline they want to focus on. Why, then, have the last few episodes focused on the Melissa Cheating rumors? Didn’t Bravo approach Penny and Jan and ask them to confront Melilssa? Why is next week’s episode going to be more of the same?

    In other words – why is Bravo focusing on the Melissa Cheats story line when her book is scheduled to be published in just a week or so?

    They knew she was writing a marriage “manual” and yet they chose to focus on the cheating rumors. Doesn’t make sense because normally, it would be in Bravo’s best interest for her book to sell (don’t they get a cut?). Wouldn’t they focus on how “wonderful” her marriage is and ignore the cheating rumors in favor of something else?

    I just wonder what the reasoning is – did Melissa do something to really make the Bravo Gods mad?

    I don’t know – but it strikes me as odd that they would choose to air an episode about her cheating (again) next week, when her book is scheduled for publication on the 17th. Common sense dictates that if you are writing a marriage “manual”, the last thing you want is suspicions of cheating and an unhappy marriage aired on national tv right before publication.

    • Jeannie5233
      September 3, 2013 at 7:44 AM

      This is just a theory I have – It might be because Bravo is trying to stir up “controversy” to sell TSIL’s book. TSIL’s book is a snoozefest – who would buy a book from her?? The publishers released excerpts and probably were a bit surprised by the negative response. Bravo has a stake and is banking on the succcess of this book. By stirring up “scandal” and “controversy” (same thing with the National Enquirer story – possibly planted to take away from the “negative” reviews of her new song and put the focus back on the book by showing how TB and TSIL can survive anything because they are UNBREAKABLE), it piques interest with the public and will boost sales. It is possible that was Bravo’s plan all along. Bravo is behind many of the leaks that came out during filming. TSIL announced her book approximately right around the time the stories of her cheating started coming out.

      As far as the THs are concerned, where it is very obvious these were filmed after the show started airing with her blonder hair which she started sporting in July, that may be a result of a combination of events. The initial bad reviews and response from the public of her book and Teresa and Joe’s indictment. It is possible Bravo had to spin its wheels and, once again, change the storyline.

      Just theories I have mulling in my head – it would be interesting to see what others think!

      • September 3, 2013 at 9:09 AM

        It is so hilarious to me that Bravo was shocked by the negative responses from the excerpts. Anyone with half a brain could see just how awful those excerpts were. It was packed full of lies. But this is Bravo we’re talking about so of course they think it will bring them money. I don’t get it. But that is just how Bravo and Andy roll.

      • corky21
        September 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

        My feelings exactly. i believe the book and the cheating angle were worked up by Bravo. Bravo has known about the Melissa/Teresa thing before Melissa came on the show. They must also have known about the rumors too. They make money and exposure by airing and stirring up the cheating, dirty housewife rumors, then tell Melissa to show the world what a great marriage they have to dispel all this nonsense, fully knowing that Melissa is a dumbo, and will work with them to create the book. They leave in all her horrible writing too. They don’t care. They know the book will sell, just as the cookbooks did for Teresa, because there was so much said about what Teresa wrote; how Caro and her family were disgusted by what was written about them, etc.

        They beat that dead horse, so now they have the evil SIL. They know all about her, what is done behind the scenes etc. They option her to write about her sexy marriage since she talks about it all the time, fully knowing that they will then show contradictions to her statements about her marriage.

        Then Melissa’s fans, though they are few, will still buy the book, but even those that hate her may buy the book just to laugh at her and disparage her on the blogs. Bravo reads all the blogs, believe me.

        It’s a win, win for Bravo, even if it doesn’t make them tons of cash. It works for the show; it works or Melissa.

        it’s a crock!

    • embee
      September 3, 2013 at 7:48 AM

      I’ve wondered the same thing, NCGal. Bravo has total control of what we see, why the negative edit on Melissa this year? Not that I’m not enjoying it.

      I wonder if they realize the book is a disaster and they hope to bring notoriety to Melissa in the hopes of selling more books. Prurient curiosity on the part of purchasers?

      • NCGal
        September 3, 2013 at 8:49 AM

        I m interested in everyone’s theory on this too. The book is a mess, Bravo has to know this. I would think they would want to put out the illusion that the marriage is perfect if they are truly interested in having the book sell. Or, maybe as embee says, the notoriety factor. Any publicity is good publicity?

        It’s almost like they are making a fool of her this season. Having said that, we don’t know how the season will play out yet, could be as Jeannie says – to show they are “unbreakable”.

        The timing is what gets me – the airing of all the cheating rumors right before the book is to be published. That can’t be something she wants.

        I’ll throw Danielle Staub in the mix too. What is she going to talk about? We know she has some goods on TSIL and Danielle has never been one to mince words. Why is she on WWHL next week, after how many years?

        I’m not given to conspiracies…but something about this seems “off” to me.

        (As far as the Enquirer story, it reads right to me, in other words, I think there is SOME truth to it. I can see her checking Joe’s text messages. I can’t see her storming out, because it’s not in her best interest to do so – not yet. She is calculating and manipulative and I believe she will leave him as soon as he stops being useful to her. I think the guy to keep an eye on is the guy that is managing her so called singing career. )

        • Jeannie5233
          September 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM

          I believe there is truth to the NE story too because I do believe they both are more than capable of cheating on each other. The timing is interesting though.

        • adioslunatic
          September 3, 2013 at 9:50 AM

          @ Nc
          Off is right- if Blahvo wants this book to make money they would be NOT be letting these bimbo’s freak flags fly. Doesn’t make sense.
          Fame, do you know when/how Blahvo makes money off a HW’s book? Such as, does it come off the top of the advance, is it based on x amount of copies sold etc.

          • Jeannie5233
            September 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM

            AL – I am not sure if this is correct but I read somwhere – I cannot recall exactly – that Bravo makes 10% off the sales of the HW products.

            • adioslunatic
              September 3, 2013 at 10:02 AM

              Thanks Jeannie – My question still stands though as far as books- is that 10% off the advance only or a combination or in toto?
              Wow, 10% to Blahvo, 15% to agents, however much % to co/ghostwriters – how do any of them make any money?! Lol!

          • September 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM

            AL, I have no idea how it works.

            • adioslunatic
              September 4, 2013 at 6:24 AM

              If anyone would it would be you, Fame. Thanks for the response!
              So…can I safely ascertain that no one actually knows the deal…so much conjecture as to how these women are actually paid. Confusing…

          • corky21
            September 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

            There is a sucker born every minute. Everyone writes books these days. If you write it, they will buy it, especially, her fans, and even those that don’t like her just to laugh at her. I wouldn’t buy it, but I read the first chapter that was online, and laughed at how bad it was. Bravo has plenty of money, they don’t care about the bottom line, whatever they get, so be it. It’s all part of the bigger plan to get fans talking on blogs, more publicity, and maybe a new plot for next season if they want to keep running this show and getting all those advertising dollars; so many commercials during these airings.

    • September 3, 2013 at 8:29 AM

      I think they are doing it to sell more books.

      • September 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM

        ITA .. too much about this book, come on… have they mentioned don caros once on the show?????????? nope..
        they want sell more using controversy

        • adioslunatic
          September 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM

          @lemon
          But, who in their right mind would buy this book as a guide to a perfect marriage ESPECIALLY now. ( I wish we had italics abilities, I’m not yelling, I’m emphasizing)

          The only reason I could think of is the laugh factor but, if that first chapter is a testament to her writing skills it would be too painful to even extrapolate a laugh out of that mess.

          • September 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

            now only fools
            but yesterday many many 13-years old girls who think they are adult enough to watch the show and stoopid enough to think Melissa is cool and sexy and all that bla bla bla
            but …. on the other hand where are 13-yo girls that read real books? If there are any they read anything but Mego bs … I think … I’m confused…

            • adioslunatic
              September 4, 2013 at 6:21 AM

              Me too, Lemon, me too! lol! ALL of this confuses me 😉

          • LifeIsGood
            September 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM

            Adios,

            I don’t think they care why people buy it as long as they buy. I think they realize that not many people are going to take this seriously as a legit “guide to a hot marriage.” However, if they portray it as a really big joke (on melissa) people may buy it to goof on it. The bigger ass she makes of herself, the more books they sell. People will always stop to look at a trainwreck. I can think of no other reason that the publishers and Bravo would allow this to be published in its current form. All distain for meho aside, the writingis a really bad joke.

            • adioslunatic
              September 4, 2013 at 6:14 AM

              @ LIG
              When Fame published the teaser I could barely get through it and I will read packaging labels to have something to read, lol! I LOVE the written word and that was an assault to my sensibilities, I had to read some Austen immediately as an eyewash! ;-p

        • corky21
          September 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM

          Bingo. Caroline hasn’t enough of a story. She tried to write a cookbook before Teresa and she couldn’t compete with the star of the show, so she went to do the radio bit. Only Teresa and Melissa can pull out the stops for books.

          Maybe if there is another season, Caroline and Al’s shady marriage will come to light, or something about the kids, and then, maybe she can write a book. LOL.

          No one really cares about the others.

          However, I think Rosie could write a book about her life and how her sister and BIL abandoned her, and how Teresa and Joe stood by her. She could write about how hard it was living in that traditional family, and let out some demons, but she probably wouldn’t dare, unless the money was spot on.

  7. smith
    September 3, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    it irritates me that TSIL has been given the opportunity to redo her talking heads. Since the indictments, all of a sudden the next episode TSIL has been shown in the black low cut top with her recent blond hair. I wonder why?????
    It would be interesting if Fame did a side by side of TSIL instagrams at the time of her birthday with black hair and her recent blond hair.

    • vallygirl
      September 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

      Smith I’m not as concerned with Meho’s blonde hair trying to make herself look like JLo too much as I am about the comment she made to SloJoe at Lake George after Juicey beet his butt up (remember back in their bedroom why SloJoe is crying) ? Meho said this about Joe Guidice ” he’s going to go to jail where he belongs”. Now how in the world would Meho know something like that? Then shortly after she makes that comment Joe and Teresa are in court. The burning question I have is how did Melissa know that ahead of time???? Maybe Melissa and that pancy lil Joey had a hand in all this mess Teresa and Joe are in. Think about it it’s so so obvious these two are so very jealous of Teresa and her husband and jealousy makes people do whatever it takes to obtain whatever it is they’re jealous of.
      Remember SloJoe I think it was season 3 in one of his talking heads saying, “I want my sister to fail I want to see her do down”. Somethings are starting to makes sense now.
      And do all this to Teresa for what because her fans love her, that’s not Teresa’s fault Tersesa has a softer heart than Meho. Is Meho jealous because Teresa got a spot on this show and in Meho’s selfish brain it should of been her so she could be famous and a singer which after listening to that dumbass Melissa sing we all now know she lied about being able to sing ( I’m referring to the video up top where she made a fool of herself because someone forget to turn on the autotune).
      Whose to say Meho didn’t turn Teresa and Joe in with lies. She’s lied about everything since she got on this show. Telling lies is obviously easy for Meho it’s become a way oflife for her as we all seen on the show.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 10:57 AM

        TSIL was referring, I believe, to the separate upcoming trial Joe Giudice has for identity theft and fake driver’s license which, if found guilty, can bring up to ten years in prison. That was already known and Joe opened that up with Wyatt by explaining his fear of having to possibly leave his family because of those legal issues.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          September 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM

          That trial is going to be an odd one. Juicy himself was never caught using a fraudulently obtained license. Pete was pulled over and when the cop ran the plate and license, Joe’s picture “came up”. Here’s the rub – those brothers look so eerily close. The pictures in the MVC database are awful at best so I’m just a tad confused as to what actually triggered the investigation. Here in Jersey we are usually given the option (when renewing) to keep the old picture or take a new one. I’ve seen people who go from contacts to glasses and have wildly different hair colors and styles (as well as nose jobs) and still are allowed to keep the old picture. Even when these people are pulled over – nothing triggers suspicion in spite of not even looking remotely close in person to the MVC photo. Wouldn’t surprise me if a certain Horse Strolling Whore made a phone call to someone about it…

          • September 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM

            I have always thought that one of the cast members or their family members tipped off law enforcement. It seems very, very suspicious. I think most of the stories reported that Joe was pulled over, but I first heard it was Pete – that they tried to catch Joe driving but couldn’t so they targeted his brother.

            • Diane Rockwell
              September 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM

              I have had my suspicions that the Manzos turned Joe in for this license and fraud stuff. I can remember the Manzos hosting a benefit for the Sheriff’s Department. I remember Caroline telling Juicy that Albert would destroy him. I remember Caroline testifying against Danielle. I think these people are connected enough to harm the Giudices. Please consider that the Lauritas had a bankruptcy with Signature Apparel, unpaid taxes and allegations of stealing from the Koman foundation but I have seen little to no press coverage of these events.
              What these people don’t understand is you can’t play dirty and expect to win. This is why BLK, Caroline’s radio career and book flopped. Andy Cohen can treat them favorably but most of us don’t like them and we won’t buy their stuff. I hope Bravo does give them their own show. If Teresa isn’t on Oct no one will watch.

            • September 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM

              I agree Fame. It came from an inside source. I know NJ does not like the negative media HWNJ are portraying on national TV. Soooo, go after them.

          • September 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM

            the rumor is big Al had something to do with it

            • pinkie
              September 3, 2013 at 8:17 PM

              then i hope it comes back to bite bit Al. Manzo’s are too pathetic to be on tv.
              clown town.

      • Alicia78
        September 3, 2013 at 11:42 AM

        They do the interviews when filming is over. They show them clips and ask questions about the clips.

  8. September 3, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    Is it possible to hate someone more and more with each episode?

    • NCGal
      September 3, 2013 at 8:50 AM

      Yep! It Sure Is!

      • adioslunatic
        September 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM

        I don’t hate anyone but, it’s getting more and more difficult to even view her as anything remotely human. Succubus that she is…

  9. Saddle_River_NJ
    September 3, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Yes. And it’s such a shame that she was given a “morphine drip” in the hospital. Wouldn’t it have been bags of fun if some intern accidently gave her a drip of sodium pentothal? And I mean as truth serum, not some of it’s other nastier uses…

    • September 3, 2013 at 9:14 AM

      She is so full of it. She wasn’t given any morphine drip. For a sore throat? Yeah, okay. She wouldn’t know the truth if it bit her on the ass. So I’m with you Saddle_River. Give her some of that truth serum and let’s sit back and watch 🙂

  10. charok
    September 3, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    what i wonder if she was sooooo sick she sure wouldn’t be lounging in the pool in a 2 piece sunning in the previous epidsode, and this most recent one her skimpy cow girl whore on a stroll get up….i call BS on her and her so sick/ needing morphine drip. but that is just me 🙂

    • jennacheryl
      September 4, 2013 at 2:28 AM

      After living in ‘NM for 7 years the sun can be very hot during the day and where they were its like 80degrees if not warmer that time of year. So I can see that actually making her feel better as long as she did not get in the water. Please don’t think I like her, I don’t like how she portrays herself on RHONJ she comes across as fake as a 3.00 Bill but the heat can make you feel better and make you more drowsy as you know.

  11. September 3, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Who is really writing Meho’s blog? It’s interesting that her book is a mess, but not as much in her blog posts. Just guessing here that Bravo editors proofread her blog, but deliberately didn’t bother to edit her book.

    • NCGal
      September 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM

      Excellent point! Funny how Tre caught all that flack for not writing her blogs – yet TSIL???

      We know it can’t be Josephine because he can barely read, much less write.

  12. Jeannie5233
    September 3, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    From someone who administered prescribed liquid morphine round the clock to my mother to alleviate extraordinary pain in her final months, the dosage being upped in her final days, I know morphine is a narcotic; an opiate and as such, a highly controlled drug which is usually used as a last resort when a patient is not responsive to nonnarcotic analgesics. I am so offended by TSIL – and her grand delusions – making these claims she was on a freakin’ DRIP. If that were the case, she would have been admitted to the hospital for close observation. Morphine is not prescribed willy-nilly for a f*cking sore throat!

    And, she says it was a viral infection – viral infections are not treated with antibiotics so what exactly were those “horse” pills she was ingesting along with swigs of alcohol while she sits in the sun? Most medications of that type make you photosensitvie to the sun. And, she was so freakin’ sick she needed morphine yet she was able to sit in the sun drinking and within two days she was recovered enough to participate in activities and have spa treatments? PUHLEEZE.

    Sorry for my language – my filters are raw these days – but she is a f*cking liar!!! But we ALL already know that.

    • Miami53
      September 3, 2013 at 10:09 AM

      Welcome back, Jeannie. You don’t have to apologize…we all know what you are going thru. Losing a parent is one of the worst things in life. Your day could be going fine and then words in a newspaper, a song or tune brings back the memories of your loved one. Just take it day by day. Hugs to you.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 10:35 AM

        When I read that about the morphine drip I just couldn’t contain myself. Thanks Miami53 for your thoughtfulness and insight and the hug.

        • ihateandy
          September 3, 2013 at 11:26 AM

          Jeannie, I read your comments here and I want to say I am so sorry for your loss.

          • Jeannie5233
            September 3, 2013 at 2:07 PM

            Thank you iha. You and everyone else here are so appreciated. I mean that sincerely.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 3, 2013 at 10:11 AM

      I’m sure the pills were the “regular” ones she takes every time she comes down with oral gonorrhea from those “encounters” in parking lots. I’m sure her hospital visit was for a Cipro drip followed by a weeks worth of Levaquin. Maybe the poor dear needs to cut back on all her “oral activities” to give that throat a rest…

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 10:39 AM

        SRNJ – your comments are what my mom would say “a stitch”, meaning “very funny”!!

      • elemcee
        September 4, 2013 at 10:13 AM

        SR, your comments are so hilarious! Thank you for the laughs!

    • adioslunatic
      September 3, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      Jeannie said a dirty word – LMAO! Sorry, I had to…you are so classy and well written I couldn’t help myself from making a joke!

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 10:36 AM

        AL – laughter can be the best medicine – I appreciate it – thank you!! You gave me a chuckle!!

    • Jeannie5233
      September 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

      bobby brooks – As per your comment upthread, I stand corrected about saying she was on a morphine DRIP in this comment. You are absolutely correct and I believe if we are going to call her outon her lies, we should have our facts straight. From Melissa’s Bravo blog dated August 26th:

      “Joe took me to the emergency room in Arizona and I wound up spending the night there on morphine. When you see me the next morning I had just gotten back from the hospital, that’s why I had the hospital bracelet on my wrist and I was just taking my first round of medicine. I thought it was strep, but it turned out to be a virus. The horse pills knocked it out in a few days and I started to feel better.”

      So, I am correcting my above comment to read as follows:

      “I am so offended by TSIL – and her grand delusions – making these claims she was on morphine – period!!! I call Bull Sh*t.”

      • bobby brooks
        September 3, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        I just saw this comment, so please disregard my comment below. I definitely think that Melissa is a drama queen and prone to exaggeration, although I do think she was sick because she looked like shit, I am not that offended by her refering to morphine. I think she did go to the emergency room, as indicated by the hospital bracelet and prescriptions, and probably spent a good 5-6 hours there, as ER’s can be mind-numblingly slow, and they may have given her a low dose of morphine orally for pain or maybe one shot, because she was wailing about being in agony, which isn’t unheard of.

        Or they gave her codiene or motrin and she’s a moron and doesn’t know the difference!

        • Jeannie5233
          September 3, 2013 at 2:04 PM

          Yup – that is probably it, bobby! Vicodin, which contains codeine, or whatever is now being prescribed in lieu because it is being taken off-market, is more than likely what she was given! That makes much more sense – what a twit she is! LOL!

    • bobby brooks
      September 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM

      To be fair, Melissa never said she was on a morphine “drip”. She may have gotten a shot, which is not completely unheard of for moderate pain. They can also give morphine tablets, and they can be very low dose.

      I think Melissa is prone to dramatic exaggeration, I don’t think we should follow her lead with the continued hysteria over the morphine “drip”.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 2:01 PM

        Please see my comment to you upthread. I don’t know where you reside and maybe it is state by state, but morphine is NOT routinely prescribed, even in low dose tablet form, in my state, for a sore throat.

        However, I agree with you in keeping dramatic exaggeration at bay.

        • bobby brooks
          September 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM

          I don’t think anyone is saying morphine is routinely prescribed for sore throats, I’m not saying that at all. I am just saying that I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility, and we don’t have any facts to dispute her claim. Melissa was wailing about being in the worst pain of her life, it’s not impossible that the ER staff gave her a morphine shot to control her pain, she was probably telling them her pain was at a 10! Worse than labor! Or maybe she got some quack doctor or some nurse in the ER was trying to OD her and put us out of our misery!

          LOL! I’m trying to keep the dramatic exaggeration entertaining! 🙂

      • September 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM

        Please stop. They aren’t going to give her any of the above for a sore throat.

      • September 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM

        I edited my blog to remove the part about the “drip” since Melissa said in her Bravo blog that she was “on morphine” (“I wound up spending the night there on morphine”) but she didn’t say what method was used. However, someone noted that she tweeted it was via an IV. To summarize, Melissa said she was “on morphine” in the hospital for what she believed was a sore throat “but it turned out to be a virus.” It’s strange any way you look at it, and since she is a pathological liar, it’s hard to believe it’s the truth.

        • Jeannie5233
          September 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

          Fame – Here is the Twitter exchange regarding the IV drip w/morphine:

          WhatILove ‏@WhatILuv 27 Aug
          @LauraoftheLight @melissagorga Melissa, r u confusing an IV drip w/ morphine? Maybe clarify bf the blog commentators go nuts?
          8:52 AM – 27 Aug 13

          Melissa Gorga ‏@melissagorga 27 Aug
          @WhatILuv @LauraoftheLight yes! It was through the IV:-)
          8:54 AM – 27 Aug 13 ·

        • bobby brooks
          September 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM

          I wonder if she had mono, that’s viral, and just doesn’t want to tell anyone, then she’d have to explain where she got it!

          • Packerlover
            September 3, 2013 at 7:56 PM

            Here’s my theory on her “sore throat” history…. Snorting coke causes the nasal passages to become irritated, causing some post nasal drip, causing a sore throat…… Step away from the straw SIL.

    • September 3, 2013 at 7:52 PM

      Jeannie,
      LOL and again so sorry for your loss. I broke my pelvis and had a #3 ham string tear and no morphine for me. I have also went through 3 surgeries for breast cancer again no morphine. I slipped a disc moving furniture 6 months ago and was in horrific pain again yes they gave me 2 shots and a pill. The pill was I don’t know, shots were muscle relaxer and an old pain med. dilaudid. I chewed my cheeks to shreds it was horrible such a reaction. Anyway she did not get morphine NO WAY

      • Nameless
        September 3, 2013 at 9:11 PM

        My 80-year-old mother had quintuple bypass surgery and NO morphine.

    • Anonymous
      September 3, 2013 at 9:30 PM

      hi ms Jeannie
      love n praying for your peace
      can you tell me what morphine does and how it affects one ?and that is what was in my lil girls system when we took her to hospital ,pergiset, morphine ,and 1 more but I cant remember it ,but the farinzic nurse said the word opiate also,do you think its out of her by now ?

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 10:05 PM

        Hello Celi – Morphine is an opiate drug, used to relieve extraordinary pain and works by acting on the nervous system, numbing physical and mental abilities. Your girl does not have any of that left in her system and she is safe with you, my sweet lady. Thank you for your prayers and I continue to pray for you and your family’s continued healing.

  13. September 3, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    I doubt whether Comcast/NBC/Bravo care whether or not Melissa’s book sells or not. Bravo needs ratings to generate the highest ad dollars from sponsors. Storylines (good or bad) are what brings the viewers, the ratings, the sponsors’ ads revenue. It is about the money the show needs to survive another season. It is not about the money no one will see from the sales of Melissa’s joke of a book.

    Bravo believes that Teresa vs TSIL is a mega storyline (three seasons worth) and they have the money to prove that to their parent company. The new talking heads from TSIL and TB are likely to tone down the ‘hate and I am done after this season’ growing number of viewers comments on every HW centric blog – including their own, while Caroline is being shown as the “voice of reason” is being shown more and more as each new episode airs. Why? Maybe because 1)Teresa is not going to go down this season either, 2) the current legal situation of 5 of their cast members, 3) the waters are being tested for a Caroline and the whinny three brats spin off (seriously look at Al go from get the fuck out of my face to my family is great – pay them and get them out of my retirement fund) and finally, 4) viewers have been complaining about the Teresa takedown too much so they are getting appeased by TSIL’s true colors being sort of shown – as in teasing viewers into thinking that Teresa is finally going to get a fair shake, when what is really happening is Bravo’s need to keep the ratings on this blockbuster franchise.

    As for the “embarrassing” Melissa sans auto tune of her new release (that was so much fun and it was beaten to death everywhere) shot down her “look out JLo, I can sing AND dance” pipe dream once and for all! And the National Enquirer picking up the “inside source” story on Joey sexting (cheating cheater) and Melissa (the good wife victim) storming out could be as simple as she has finally figured out that her “go to” rags/internet websites and her singing career façade just aren’t as controllable as she thought! Well she did push herself vocally right!? And seriously, “she held the phone tauntingly out of his reach?”….we are talking about charging bull “Joey Roids” here! Like he would stand there and not be able to get his phone back?? Yup, I got a morphine drip for all those who believe that garbage.

  14. Indygirl
    September 3, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Oh, I thought she said “moron” drip….that made sense to me.

    • Miss Alicat
      September 4, 2013 at 10:24 PM

      Best. Comment. Ever.

  15. Nestings
    September 3, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Long-time lurker, first time commenting…

    I just can’t continue anymore without saying this:

    When Melissa responded to Wyatt’s question (“Do you often times, when you’re working around other people, do you try to make sure they get their needs met first before you take care of your own?”), she showed how she REALLY thinks (“Sometimes. I think it’s just the way I am.”). The way I understood what she said, she means she usually thinks of herself FIRST, but sometimes is “gracious” enough to put others first, and should be applauded for THAT. She’s got it backasswards. Being a good person means ALWAYS putting others’ needs before your own.

    Also: That Wyatt Webb needs his own show!!!

    Great community here – Thank you All & Fame!

    • ihateandy
      September 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

      Wyatt for Prez or even hosting the RH reunion! Imagine wyatt as the new host of the reunions!

      • Nestings
        September 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM

        Wouldn’t that be amazing to have Wyatt at the reunions??? They’d sure be shorter!

        • Nestings
          September 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM

          …cut right through all the BS and finger-pointing, which seems to take up most of the footage.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM

      Wyatt the Whore Whisperer was right on target. The girl *does* make sure to “get their needs met first”. Then she gets paid and rinses with Scope. Next!!

  16. Jeannie5233
    September 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    From BravoRatings.com – (the chart may not come out right from copying and pasting – fingers crossed)

    Real Housewives of New Jersey – Season 5 Ratings
    Updated Wednesday August 28th after S05E13

    The total audience ratings for The Real Housewives of New Jersey have been remarkably consistent throughout the five seasons it has been airing. However, the number of viewers in the advertiser coveted age demographic of 18 to 49 year olds, continues to decline each season. In 2009′s First Season, that age group averaged 1.9m per episode (Demo 1.43) however, in subsequent seasons that demo rating has fallen to Season 2′s 1.35, Season 3′s 1.26, Season 4′s 1.24 and now to a low, through thirteen episodes of this season, of 1.12. That demo rating of 1.12, translates to a total audience in that age group of 1,427,308 and that’s one of the reasons why this iteration of the Real Housewives Franchise scores some of the lowest advertising rates across the franchise, save for The Real Housewives of Miami.

    Through thirteen episodes and despite the boost of national press due to indictments of stars Teresa Giudice along with her husband, Joe Giudice, this season is holding more or less steady versus last (total viewers 2,451,154 versus Season 4′s 2,494,846) but is seeing a significant decline among younger viewers in the 18-49 group. That’s dropped by -9.77%, falling from 1,581,923 last season to a series low this season of just 1,427,308 viwers aged 18-49.

    The trial of the Giudices, due on October 8th will more or less coincide with the season finale and Reunion Episodes, and I think it’s fair to expect that those episodes will see significant ratings growth, particularly as the reunion will have been filmed just before their trial starts.

    Five years in is the inter-family warfare that is RHoNJ still holding our attention or might it now be time for a little cast shakeup for Season 6?

    Full Season Summary
    Real Housewives of New Jersey – Season 5 Episodic Ratings Through August 28th

    Episode Time Date Lead-In Audience 18-49 Audience 18-49 Demo

    S05E01 8:00 PM 2-Jun-13 Repeat 2,842,000 1,649,000 1.30
    S05E02 8:00 PM 9-Jun-13 Repeat 2,456,000 1,436,000 1.10
    S05E03 8:00 PM 16-Jun-13 Repeat 2,105,000 1,157,000 0.90
    S05E04 8:00 PM 23-Jun-13 Repeat 2,419,000 1,403,000 1.10
    S05E05 8:00 PM 30-Jun-13 Repeat 2,195,000 1,273,000 1.00
    S05E06 8:00 PM 7-Jul-13 Repeat 2,171,000 1,268,000 1.00
    S05E07 8:00 PM 14-Jul-13 Repeat 2,700,000 1,521,000 1.20
    S05E08 8:00 PM 21-Jul-13 Repeat 2,830,000 1,625,000 1.30
    S05E09 8:00 PM 28-Jul-13 Repeat 2,481,000 1,480,000 1.20
    S05E10 8:00 PM 4-Aug-13 Repeat 2,574,000 1,492,000 1.20
    S05E11 8:00 PM 11-Aug-13 Repeat 2,410,000 1,433,000 1.10
    S05E12 8:00 PM 18-Aug-13 Repeat 2,293,000 1,372,000 1.10
    S05E13 8:00 PM 25-Aug-13 Repeat 2,389,000 1,446,000 1.00

    • NCGal
      September 3, 2013 at 11:42 AM

      Do we know for sure whether or not Teresa is even going to film the reunion? If I were her lawyer, knowing how volatile those reunions can get, I wouldn’t want her or Joe within 100 yards of it – way too risky.

      But then there’s that Bravo contract.

      • pinkie
        September 3, 2013 at 8:21 PM

        i hope she doesn’t have to be on the reunion. i know i dont want to see CAndy cohen harp on her for another 3 hours. i hope he gets what he deserves, because that imp didn’t have to be like he is. old drunk priss.

  17. Karla
    September 3, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Wyatt to TB: You know, intervening on somebody’s else’s discomfort is not always a good thing to do because if you cheat around then she don’t learn.
    ….. hmm….. does going along with your wife to betray and hurt your own sister just to see your wife happy ring a bell Joe!?

    • Nameless
      September 3, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      No, that went right over his hobbit-height, bald head.

  18. NCGal
    September 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Wow – the comments on her blog are about as negative as they get. Usually there are some nice ones thrown in, but today you have to really look to find one.

  19. September 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    I just updated the article to include this:

    During the episode premiere, Teresa’s friend and co-writer of her cookbooks, Heather Maclean, tweeted that both Joe Gorga and Teresa “lifted the horse’s leg” and only Melissa didn’t; Teresa tweeted that she tried again and “finally found the strength to lift up the horse’s foot” but the scene was cut; shortly after Teresa’s tweet, Richie tweeted, “By the way this didn’t air but I got all 4 of the horse’s legs up at ONCE! That’s the truth!!!” If they were paying attention, they would see that it is the horse that lifts his leg at the person’s touch and then the person is supposed to catch it – the horse lifts its leg for the person, it’s not the person lifting it up.

    • September 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM

      Ritchie is such a douche.

  20. pjbottoms
    September 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    The extent of Melissa’s vanity never ceases to amaze me–I have never heard of someone being “too guarded” because of “someone ele’s fault” to participate in equine therapy. And I have never heard someone be so vapid to need a “break” from a paid “therapy” vacation in Lake George. God forbid she need a break from being real and honast. I mean that has to be exausting. When Melissa is not in La La land, she is not able to function. How ironic that in her intro, she is sick and wearing the gold bikini on this trip with the voice over “Happy Life.”

    • sittingcoffin
      September 4, 2013 at 9:50 PM

      She is a shell of a human being. Once her looks are gone…….whoooooo watch out.

  21. Saddle_River_NJ
    September 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    I’m just surprised at the trollop’s reaction to the whole horse thing. After all she has probably been mounted by as many men as that old mare. I thought there would be that connection. And that whole leg lifting thing. Again, surprise on my part since that girl seems to have a talent for lifting legs (at least her own)

    • my6girls2012
      September 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

      Saddle, I get so tickled reading your comments! LOL I love reading Fame’s blogs but, rarely ever comment; everything I think of, you guys have already stated it. And Jeannie, my sincere condolence to you and your family with the loss of your Mommy. I’ve been there and, like some of the others have said..just take one day at a time. Sending big HUGS your way!

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 2:16 PM

        I don’t know if I ever shared with all of you that I call her Mommy – wow! I wasn’t allowed to call her Mom – she didn’t like it – and Mother was so stinkin’ formal so as I got older, my sisters and I just stuck with Mommy. Boy, did we ever get teased in school! But, as an adult, it was looked at as so endearing by others and it certainly was! Thank you, my6girls, and thank you for the hugs.

        • September 3, 2013 at 10:08 PM

          Jeannie so sweet and wonderful. My mom and I have always had a distant relationship. I have never had that true unconditional love with my parents. BUT I have four daughters and we LOVE one another unconditionally and are best friends. My youngest is 17. My oldest is having a baby after three years and a miscarriage later. All is well with “Peanut”. Your Mom sounds fabulous and was a great Mom.
          TSL is not the Mom kids want. She is the kind of Mom that thinks of herself and TB is the same. Blah on them. My girls don’t call me Mommy now but I wish they did.

          • Jeannie5233
            September 3, 2013 at 10:46 PM

            Mehonogo – Oh my! I called my firstborn “Peanut” before she was born and I still do 37 years later!!! I am glad to hear your Peanut is doing well and will keep your daughter in my prayers she continues to have a healthy pregnancy! Keep us updated!! FW is now expecting, I believe, three little additions that I know of!! You may not be Mommy but you will soon be Grandma, Grammy, Nonna, Grandmere, Nana, or whatever your little one comes up with! How exciting!!!

            It speaks volumes about your strength and character that you were able to instill in your children that Love between parent and child is one of the most wonderful relationships humans can experience and is worthy of lifelong nurturing. In my own experience, becoming a grandparent and that relationship is one of the most joyous experiences as well. So happy for you!! 😀

  22. Jeannie5233
    September 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Well, TSIL’s writing has not improved much over the years:

    Melissa Gorga ‏@melissagorga 1 Sep
    I wrote this to my Aunt when I was 9. See.. I’ve always been a writer! Lol http://tiny.cc/instaframe pic.twitter.com/AiDfnGzfM9
    4:10 PM – 1 Sep 13

    The picture she tweeted was a “story” she wrote about her aunt:

    “I have a aunt her name is Angel. But she can’t fly everybody asks why. My boobs are to big. They keep me down. Thats why I can’t fly But one day When she Woke up she started to fly. I can fly I can fly It was Just a bad bad bad dream. The End.”

    To aunt angel
    Love, Meliss
    Title A aunt named Angel [underlined]
    December 25, 1988
    age 9″

    • corky21
      September 3, 2013 at 2:55 PM

      Hmmm. She tweeted that little tidbit? She seems so determined to prove herself. Like when, LOL, Teresa said she never heard or sing live, and she fell for it and sang during the reunion. I would never do that. If a person is smart, they don’t brag about their degrees; etc. and that goes for everything, really. She’s a desperate, flawed woman.

    • September 3, 2013 at 5:40 PM

      What 9 year old “normal” child would write that their aunt’s boobs were too big? What a crock of poopoo.

    • Pippi
      September 3, 2013 at 11:11 PM

      Lol Jeannie I saw her tweet and the photo of her writings. I immediately thought she had TB write it (because he writes like a nine year old) to prove shes always been a writer. The boob part sounds more like something TB would say rather than a nine yr old little girl.

      • September 4, 2013 at 7:57 AM

        You might be on to something there. Didn’t TB lose his virginty at age 9?

  23. chris is crazy
    September 3, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Hi guys, firstly i have always watched every episode of RHNJ, but lately i get so angry i have started to cut back. instead i read u guys!!! Much more “realistic: then this reality show. Melissa is going to give me a angernism (what my husband calls a headache). I am soo tired of her manipulation. The morphine thing also pissed me off because i have been taking it for many years due to a pretty bad illness. When i have to go to the hospital i usually have to call my personal DR to make them give me a drip when the pain is soo bad. It is a slap to those who have taken care of or who have a debilitating illness. I am also from Arizona where i know like i said first hand how hard it is to get that hard of a drug administered. Well hopefully the .001% of her fan base she still has will see through her poor me attitude and boycott her stupid, idiotic book!!! I ask everyone here at this website except maybe Fame to not buy this book. If just one buys this book (so that they can put it here on this website for entertainment) then this will be the least bought product from any of the house wife frandchise. That will put Miss andy’s t bar in a bunch!!!!

    • September 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      Sorry about your illness, Chris. I wish everybody who has an i tunes account would leave a scathing review of her new song. Right now she has three stars, which is bullshit.

      • September 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        I don’t know how to get to I-tunes — does it cost?

      • embee
        September 3, 2013 at 8:33 PM

        I can’t figure out how to add a comment to her song, Anyone know how to do that without purchasing it?

  24. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 3, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Just when I thought I couldn’t find 80’s popped collar Richie any more disgusting, he has to tweet like the HW wanna-bee bitch that he truly is, lol! 🙂 Dude is obsessed with Teresa, and I can totally see why she backed away from this creep early on. Teresa’s claim that she lifted the horse hoof could easily be verified, so where is he coming from in his tweet that basically implies she is lying and/or just claiming to have lifted it as a form of one upsmanship?

    I’m thinking it comes from a creepycreepycreepy stalker place.

    The horse guy lost me when he followed the BRAVO script of worshipping the Manzos. Lapband Al is the biggest hypocrite of them all, altho’ I do enjoy watching him sell his soul to BRAVO. (And I don’t really blame they guy – it just took him awhile to realize he was squandering an opportunity to unload the wife he no longer wants to be with and to remove the adult children/leeches.)

    Why are we seeing snippets of anti-Whorgas and Vanity Jax?

    I think this Season went to air as a mish-mash hodge-podge of not knowing where it was going from the…*nodding to Wyatt*…giddy-up. I believe that their WAS going to be a total cast shake-up and redemption arc for Teresa planned with the new producers. Then came Hurricane Sandy hit, and the ever opportunistic Andy couldn’t resist the headlines…as usual he miscalculated the audience response and backlash to this obvious ploy and the direction quickly changed. They’ve left in some of the footage of the “HW Friends” but as word of the pending indictments filtered in, and the legal issues caused by fracas at the boutique opening, the direction went back to the old reliable bash/blame Teresa for everything formula…with just a tidbit of redemption as a scrap to the “army.”

    It’s apparent from the ratings that no one is buying it (like a MeHo or Caroline book, lol) or watching this drivel. The crazy timeline and dubbed in later Talking Heads and voice overs are so insulting to the viewers!

    OT: My 2 girls and I all have 3 distinctly different hair types/styles/lengths … just want to report that over the long holiday we did our own spa treatments and used the Milania kit…(again for those keeping score at home – I never buy celebrity anything or off the computer – but purchased The Grill Book and the hair care when things got to looking so bad for Teresa) Must report that this is a quality product – my girls (27 and 15) are a very tough haircare audience and they both LOVED this product. We all look fab!

  25. Miami53
    September 3, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    OT. I like to go on different sites to read about RHONJ…I tried to go on Stoopid Housewives…but couldn’t. It said it was a private site and you had to receive a invitation. Has anyone else have that issue? Its funny because it was okay early this morning.

    • Jeannie5233
      September 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM

      Stoopid Housewives tweeted the site is down due to maintenance and will be back up shortly:

      Stoopid Housewives ‏@stoopidhsewives 4h
      Please note: SH will be down for site maintenance… and will be back soon!!! Have a wonderful week! XOXXOX!!!
      8:04 AM – 3 Sep 13

      • Miami53
        September 3, 2013 at 3:45 PM

        Thanks for the update, Jeannie!

      • tulip
        September 3, 2013 at 4:00 PM

        Thanks for the info Jeannie! I just posted a question about it to dubbalicious above. I should have scrolled down here to the bottom first and read this! I wasn’t able to get on SH. I didn’t know why. Thanks again for the info! I am glad the site will be back up, cause it is among my favorites along with this site!

      • Debbie J
        September 3, 2013 at 5:17 PM

        Jeannie,

        How are you doing? Was thinking about you today and I continue to pray for you.

        Debbie

        • Jeannie5233
          September 3, 2013 at 5:31 PM

          Debbie J – I’m okay – I’m not going to lie or sugarcoat. It will take time but I know it will get better. My older sister and I were talking and she understands that for me, because my mom lived with me and I went through everything with her every day for the last two and a half years, it may be a little harder for me to adjust to life without her. Those are years I will cherish because we were able to become even closer and she was my best friend. But I will get through it and thankfully alot of those memories are what I can draw on. Not many people have that. You are a dear and I really appreciate you continuing to pray for me so much.

  26. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 3, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    I got the same message just now Miami…I’d also noticed having to log in each time recently @ allatrh for awhile now…maybe it’s something to do with bloggers getting sued? Wasn’t it tamaratattless and shebyshebroke or maybe even faux? Ridiculous but what a hassle for free speech. 😦

  27. chris is crazy
    September 3, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Bwahahahaha just got done reading the comments on Bravo. Wow! People are absolutely not holding anything back when it comes to how they feel about Messy. Everything from how rude she was to the whoreswisperer (haha) to her crappy music. What a differance from last year. Finally the other shoe is about to drop. Totally awesome!

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM

      For some reason my posts on the Bravo site appear after “moderation” for a minute or two and then they go blank. Is that what happens when the Bravo Minions take offense at a post?

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 5:22 PM

        If you already have had an account, and that is what is happening now, yes, you may now be a “victim” of the Bravo Minions. 😦

        Another trick they use, is once you are logged in, your post looks like it is there, but when you log off, it is completely gone as well as any “Likes” you have made. That is my case – banned from Bravo, sadly – not!!! Because being banned, that is how I found this site – oh, what a lucky day that was!! 🙂

      • September 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        I have had that happen to me as well – and it looks really strange to have posters agree with what you posted and your post is gone! I had to go back to those who agreed and restate what I had said in reply to their posts! Sanitizing goes on regularly, especially when viewers are not buying the Bravo storyline.

      • September 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        Yes and their blogs have been acting a bit whackadoodle for a couple of weeks. I still post and it’s a 50/50 crapshot if it will go through.

        • September 4, 2013 at 2:12 AM

          I posted something last week about Tsil and Tb being selfish parents for not throwing Bday parties for their kids but Tsil gets an expensive trip for hers. I was bashed and told, “Antonia had a slumber party, and Tsil took Antonia to Broadway this year for her bday party! So, Tsil isn’t a bad parent!” and “how do you know this?” and “that’s all you got?”. Plus my grammer wasn’t intelligent enough and I must have a sad family if they equate love to how big a birthday party you get. When I would log on I couldn’t see my post, only the newest comments but I seen I was tagged in one. I commented back to her and explained that it’s my opinion that I think Tb and Tsil are selfish parents who treat themselves better than their kids. I don’t think Bravo posted my response because I logged in the next day and I was being attacked for my first post days earlier by different commenters. I commented again, my 3rd comment. on the same subject and they didn’t post that one either! I noticed that Tsil’s ‘SOLDIERS’ can post numerous times insulting people. I was reading comments on a different website and they are horrible people if you bash Tsil. Her ‘soldiers’ will attack you for your opinion. Most of her soldier’s don’t defend Tsil they just insult you for your comment. It just shows their intelligence! It’s like commenter’s who think Tre and Juicy are criminals who deserve to go to prison, to me that is their opinion. I wouldn’t attack them and say, “your sentence structure sucks!” or “you must have a sad family wishing someone to jail!”. Anyway, I love Fame’s site!

          • September 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM

            With both parents needing constant attention themselves, the notion of the children having their own birthday celebration only comes if it can be attached to something else the parents need or want. TB could have had a lovely birthday party for TSIL with family, but he chose to go to therapy in Arizona. If TB knows his wife well, why take her to someplace like that for her birthday? If you look at the photo on Fame’s blog, TB is between TSIL and Caroline. Al has his arm around Caroline’s neck. Body language – They hug ‘high’ on your body or get you in a neckhold. The more controlling or powerful your partner is, the higher they hug on the body.

  28. September 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    I’m going to whore stroll over there to read the comments about Melissa. It always cheers me up.

    • September 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

      They are brutal!!!!!!!!

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 7:56 PM

        I just went over to read the comments on Melissa’s blog. The threads are so disjointed and don’t make sense. People are commenting and responding to comments that don’t exist anymore! It is awfully difficult to follow but I would say Melissa is sure taking a well-deserved and about-time beating!!

        • September 3, 2013 at 8:36 PM

          It’s been doing that for weeks Jeannie … it’s very frustrating trying to read the Bravo blogs.

        • Silvana
          September 4, 2013 at 3:00 AM

          Speaking of bravo I was just on the site and saw they are having a poll to see who should get a bravo wedding do you think the polls will be rigged to get Lauren and vito the wedding hence the Manzos spinoff??? GOD I HOPE NOT!!!!!

    • NCGal
      September 3, 2013 at 8:54 PM

      I read them earlier and except for 1 or 2, they were all very negative – approaching Faye Resnick territory.

  29. Pinky
    September 3, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    This stupid ho! She is such a manipulative bitch! Teresa DID lift the horses foot and it was edited out! I hate this sleezy whore. Sorry for the rant but Tre even texted Andy about this-not like Looker’s didn’t know-but she alludes Tre failed like SHE did!!!! Errr!!!!

  30. Jeannie5233
    September 3, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    From Teresa’s official website, her RHONJ blog is up:

    Teresa Giudice

    “The Horse Whisperer”
    September 3, 2013

    Hello Loveys!

    Hope you are all enjoying the last weekend of summer! My kids don’t go back to school for another whole week, but we’re at the Shore one last time, grilling up a storm of course! “Fabulicious! On the Grill” is available in bookstores everywhere and on Amazon: http://amzn.to/RtCq8e and you can get my delicious new food line imported from Italy at http://www.skinnyitalianfoods.com.

    Well, I loved this episode & I hated it. I loved it because I really loved the entire experience in Arizona. I love new things. You didn’t see me making fun of the counselors or putting it down or whining in bed because I really appreciated everything about it. Part of life is to keep learning new stuff, and I love that. I was open to everything: the drums, the psychic, the horse, the high-wire. We were there to get some healing, and I was ready. I was tired of crying! Some good vibes and happiness were welcome!

    I hated this episode though because you got to see everyone else’s full experience with Wyatt the Horse Whisperer except mine. I know they can’t show everything, but both my brother and I were able to approach the horse with openness and honesty, and he lifted his leg for both of us. For me, it was a really big accomplishment, and I’m sorry you didn’t get to see it. I’m also sorry that Melissa chose to speak for me on Twitter and say that we all regretted not opening up for the horse. I don’t regret it because I did open up! Why she alone didn’t is for her to explain…

    Everyone is afraid of something, and for me, full-grown, giant-ass animals that I’ve never been around before are it! I was so freaked out that the horse would turn around and bite me or kick me or something. It’s no joke! Maybe if I had known the horse since it was a pony, I wouldn’t have been afraid of it, but I didn’t. I had a bad experience on a horse once in Aruba. And I know animals sense fear, so that made my fear even worse!

    But one thing I’m not is a quitter. I like to push myself and learn new things about myself, and I didn’t want to give up. I did get the horse to lift its leg for me, I did scrape its hoof, and I was soooooo proud of myself afterwards!

    I’m super bummed that some of the people that were there with me like Caroline and Kathy and Melissa, who saw me overcome my fear and work with the horse successfully, acted like I didn’t. Everyone is afraid of different things. Caroline grew up on a farm, so the horse was no problem for her. It was scary and different and strange for me. The next day when we were up on the high-wire, I had no problem, but Caroline had a melt-down. Heights are really hard for her. She was hysterical crying, and wouldn’t do it. I didn’t judge her or say she wasn’t opening herself up. I knew it was hard for her. I encouraged her, reminding her that I overcame my fear with the horses, and she could overcome her fear of heights.

    For Caroline to say I’m just like Melissa, and that I’m superficial, says a lot about her character. She saw that I did open myself up to the experience, so for her to lie like that makes no sense to me. I thought we were there for healing, and I certainly didn’t belittle her for her fears. She was miserable the entire trip, fighting with Albert the whole time. And she has the nerve to say I didn’t embrace it? Disappointing.

    You could see how into the whole experience I was when Jacqueline was up there crying and I ran up to give her a hug. I was just really happy the whole time, so happy we were all there to support each other.

    We were filming at the ranch for hours and hours, and at one point, natured called and my Joe got up to go to the bathroom. When he was walking back, Milania called, so he answered. He waved me over so I could talk to her too. We had been there all day, and I wanted to make sure there wasn’t anything wrong at home. I missed my girls! I can’t believe of all people that Kathy didn’t understand that, but I guess she and Rich have a limited memory for things. For Rich to talk about my husband delaying legal issues is insane to me. My husband cannot control the legal system, and Rich of all people knows this. Rich’s had his fair share of lawsuits and I would never comment about his behavior in them. Shameful.

    I’m glad you got to see a lot of the good times we do have though. Joe resting his head on my shoulder. Albert opening up. Caroline saying she wanted to hug Joe. Chris saying he loved me. Jacqueline and I cleaning the bottom of each other’s shoes… I think you got to see a lot of honest interactions, and different sides to all of us.

    As always, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support! It means the world to me.

    Tanti Baci,
    Teresa xx

    • September 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM

      In her blog, Teresa should have addressed her comments after the therapy because she came across as shallow and vapid. Plus I noticed she correctly stated in her blog that the horse lifted its leg, unlike in her and Heather’s tweets where they both said Teresa lifted the horse’s leg/foot (they must be reading FW too because I pointed this out this morning!):

      The cast returns to their villas. Teresa is talking to Melissa and Poison at their villa.

      Poison: How’d you feel about today?

      Teresa: I don’t know!? I mean, I really didn’t get it!

      Poison: It really didn’t help me, but what I liked about him was, if you have some weakness, he was able to figure that out.

      Teresa: But like, I didn’t. I really don’t have insecurities or, I feel like I am, I’m Teresa. Like, I don’t try to impress people. I’m, I’m just me!

      Cut to Kathy and Richie at their villa talking about the therapy, and then back to the Gorga’s villa.

      Teresa: People who have insecurities or, you know, have issues, it was a good thing for them. I was afraid of horses, like that was my big thing, that’s why I couldn’t do it.

      Melissa: My thing was that we met him for three seconds so I don’t (motions with her hands like, WTF, and scowls). How could he know someone from just looking at them. He’s psychic?

      Caroline TH: Everybody opened up and tried to tell their truth. I’ve said time and again that Melissa and Teresa are the same person. They just cannot open up! It’s all superficial.

      Back to Poison, Melissa and Teresa at the Gorga’s villa. Teresa flicks her tongue to the corner of her mouth, licking her lips (something she’s been doing since late in season 4) and Melissa flips her hair.

      Teresa: Like, I’m tired of crying. I can’t wait to do spa treatments.

      Melissa: Yeah! Like, let’s do stuff like that.

      Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean
      @JenGotClassNass I loved it but it was edited l like crap. Teresa & her brother both got the lifted the leg of the horse. Only Melissa didnt
      8:17 AM – 2 Sep 13

      Teresa Giudice ‏@Teresa_Giudice 20h
      Lil upset that the scene was cut where I finally found the strength to lift up the horse’s foot. #proudofmyself
      7:23 PM – 1 Sep 13

      Teresa Giudice ‏@Teresa_Giudice 20h
      It’s not that I didn’t want to complete the exercise, I was afraid of the horse.

      Teresa Giudice ‏@Teresa_Giudice 31 Aug
      @jcramirez49 bad experience with a horse in Aruba.Xx
      7:03 PM – 31 Aug 13 · Details

      Gina Nowack ‏@GiNo120 20h
      @Teresa_Giudice awe! Yes, they should have shown you lifting the foot! You probably squealed with joy!!!!!
      Retweeted by Teresa Giudice

      When Juicy admitted his fears in front of everyone, Teresa didn’t go up to him and hug him, and it didn’t stir up tears for her. It was strange that she showed no emotion.

      Later that day, with the cameras rolling, she squealed when she came out in her string bikini – it was an awkward scene which made her look vain. The swimsuit was too revealing for a 40-year old mother – it was the same one Gia was clearly embarrassed about, trying to throw it out when Teresa showed it to her kids (when she came out wearing it, even Juicy told her she might as well have come out naked and asked her if it was a g-string).

      • Jack Hole
        September 3, 2013 at 9:35 PM

        I agree with the part where you say Teresa came across as if she was eggmitting to NOT completing the exercise over in the villa…so when I heard all of this talk about the editing and etc etc – I was confused! But I can guarantee not one cast member will eggmitt that she actually did it (even if it is true, which, I think Teresa is completely shallow but a little too naïve to try to outright lie and think she can get away with it in this matter) I bet anything she or it eventually lifted it’s leg, but it took work on her part-unlike with Caroline and Chris who did it effortlessly (these are the ways in which the words twist and twist and turn into something else)

        2 things I am thinking about the direction the season is taking–we know that the Manzo camp will never get a bad edit (mafia reasons??) so who will HAVE to be next when/if Teresa goes? Of course Melissa/Joe!!!! To pit Kathy as bad is to far a storyline stretch and Caro has ALWAYS said Melissa is just like Teresa so I think it stands to reason that Bravo is setting the stage to roast the Gorgas now (hello, they may lose their number 1!!!!) That would also explain the Danielle appearance ( it will no doubt be the usual evasive- tune in next season style interview, I have absolutely NO hope in Andy’s ability to allow the delivery of a true story). Melissa is on contract so she is just as stuck as Teresa was when she weaseled her sorry ass on to the show…

        • Jack Hole
          September 3, 2013 at 9:41 PM

          Sent too soon!!! The second though on my mind is, it might not be a genuine friendship but it feels like Caroline is taking Teresa’s case when it comes to Melissa’s ways… but I did not really see Teresa take note of that?? Teresa and Melissa are in deed the same person–Melissa makes sure of that!!!!

  31. September 3, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    Not sure what this means but Tre’s blog is up on her website — and boy is she honest.

    http://teresagiudice.com/myblog/

    Wonder what Bravo will post.

    • September 3, 2013 at 6:31 PM

      Just checked and Bravo has not posted anything yet. Interesting.

      • AnnieMarie
        September 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM

        I say let’s support her big FU and like the hell out of her blog. 😀

    • AnnieMarie
      September 3, 2013 at 6:56 PM

      I’m thinking she is tired of Bravo and the possibility of her blog being edited before it is posted. I think it was Heather Maclean that tweeted blogs get edited to maintain storylines or remove info about future events. By going through her own blog, no one is going to omit parts of her blog. She can address issues that bothered her without the Bravo censor. Maybe it’s a big FU to Bravo and those she thought she had a renewed relationship with. I like the big FU possibility. 🙂

      • Jeannie5233
        September 3, 2013 at 7:04 PM

        So do I!! 😉

      • September 3, 2013 at 7:36 PM

        I agree that it was a big FU to Bravo and I applaud her. If I recollect she did it one other time when Bravo the crap out of her blog.

      • Debbie J
        September 3, 2013 at 7:40 PM

        There is no way Bravo is going to let that Blog fly. I’m glad she posted it on her web site.

      • Jack Hole
        September 3, 2013 at 9:21 PM

        I recall Teresa said in a separate blog on her website after S3 reunion when Jac was a no show that Bravo edited her blog and then she posted the entire thing on Fabuliscious. That was the only time that has ever happened. I am sure gags-a-plenty were put into all of their contracts!!!

    • elle
      September 3, 2013 at 7:39 PM

      Wow…that’s the type of blog I wish we had been getting from her since the beginning of Season 3. It sounds like Teresa is no longer holding back. Good for her! I will definitely be comparing it to the Bravo blog.

    • qb
      September 3, 2013 at 8:06 PM

      I am so glad she went HAM on all of them! She is getting pissed off and so are the viewers! If it end the way I think it is going to end I am going to go HAM myself!!

    • NCGal
      September 3, 2013 at 8:52 PM

      Good for her! I can see why she put in her web site. It never would have passed Bravo.

      So Caroline and Al fought the whole time..LOL.

      Honestly, I think Teresa is tired of it all. She’s a better person than me, and I give her credit. I could not have put up with the crap they have been giving her for as long as she has.

  32. IamNobodysHW
    September 3, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Hi everyone,
    I had my thyroids removed at Roswell Park Cancer institute in november 1993 and I was on a morphine drip, I also had a 6 inch incision across my neck. I find it hard to believe any doctor would give this drama queen morphine for a sore throat. If you put pressure in the right spot (the nerve) it will make the horses leg raise.

    • September 3, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      Sorry to hear about your surgery as I have heard that is not a pleasant one. I agree for that you get morphiine, but not a sore throat.

      The cleaning the hoof thing was humorous as that horse was older and trained quite well, if you hit the nerve the leg goes up and grab it , hold and pick. I do understand if you are afraid of horses you could be scared and the horse would sense that.

    • September 3, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      Good to see you posting Cher. I pray that all is well for you.

      Reading from the bottom up, I am also happy to see Jeannie back on board.

  33. September 3, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Andy’s calling for last chance questions on his facebook page for the reunion … HERE”S YOUR LAST CHANCE: post questions for the RHONJ Reunion. no matter how random, weird, pointed, or FUN – for the housewives plus Joe Gorga, Joe Guidice, Dr. V and Rosie! tell me where you are from too! I may use them on the show.

    I know mine won’t get through but I’m going to post!

    • elle
      September 3, 2013 at 7:32 PM

      Please…Dr. V again? What is she going to add to the reunion that will be any different from the nonsense she put out during those Lake George episodes? Unless she plans to clarify that TSIL and TB share responsibility for everything which has been blamed upon Teresa, I don’t want to hear her. I certainly hope Caroline’s spawn aren’t scheduled to appear again.

      • trixy
        September 3, 2013 at 9:22 PM

        The “miracle worker”, Dr. V was a foul thing. My skin crawled when she told Tre to look at her vagina. Gross. What kind of doctor behaves in such an unprofessional manner. After that classy scene, I just couldn’t take her serious. Plus, she had those crazy eyes.

    • Diane Rockwell
      September 3, 2013 at 8:04 PM

      Teresa’s blog is up. I really do not understand Bravo editing out her lifting the horse’s leg. That was a personal victory her fans would like to have seen. I know she is a strong person but I really felt bad for her. I personally know what its like to be afraid of horses so it had to be tough for her. I would like everyone on this blog to text/write/twitter Andy Cohen and ask him to air that part of the show or explain to why not.

  34. JUST ME P
    September 3, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    REALLY CAROLINE AND NOW AL ARE TELLING TERESA SHE NEEDS TO GO TO HOWEVER KEEPS CALLING JOEY BABY…WHY SHOULD TERESA HAVE TO FIGHT MELISSA AND JOEYS BATTLES FOR THEM….AL SAYS SHOW A UNITED FRONT..YES AGREED, BUT TERESA DOESN’T HAVE TO CONFRONT THE PEOPLE CALLING MELISSA A WHORE AND CHEATER….THAT ISN’T HER JOB ….AT THE LAUNCH PARTY MELISSA IS MAD CAUSE TERESA DIDN’T FIGHT THE BATTLE FOR HER..WAIT JOEY WAS SITTING RIGHT THERE, WATCHING AND LISTENING AND MAKING FACES…WHY DID HE SAY NOTHING…???? CAROLINE NEEDS TO SHUT HER TRAP, THIS WISE OLD LADY CRAP
    IS MIGHTY OLD

    • September 3, 2013 at 7:48 PM

      Amen

    • Patricia
      September 3, 2013 at 7:54 PM

      Makes your skin crawl doesn’t it… Amen Amen !!!

    • ihateandy
      September 3, 2013 at 8:18 PM

      exactly!

  35. September 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    There are many reasons people do not want to seek therapy, but I agree with others who think TSIL does not want to resolve anything. A destructive narcissist does not want anyone to see their true identity and that is part of the reason she makes comments about people not knowing someone but judging character based on a few moments of their lives. She does not want to give the impression that someone could even come close to her true self.

    I did not think about it before but when Kathy and Rosie got a message from their father, nothing happened concerning TSIL’s father. I wonder why she did not get a medium to sit down with her sisters and mother to find out what he thought about her writing a book?

    Why did TB want more therapy? I think the first time he brought up therapy, he was expecting Teresa to say no, then he could say he tried but Teresa didn’t want to. Teresa went outside her comfort zone and agreed to therapy. TB was caught in the idea of having dinner with his family, something Teresa saw as progress and willing to do. Later Dr. V. supposedly was a miracle worker and everyone started coming together which Teresa loved. I think TB can see things more clearly when someone other than his wife can talk alone with him. Caroline, Rosie, Dr. V. and Gia for example.

    I think TB will take therapy seriously and even seek it out at some point in his life. I think Caroline is wrong about Teresa and therapy. She has proven over and over again relationships matter to her more than anything else in the world. She has gone out of her comfort zone many times for the sake of others. She has listened to Caroline’s advice as well as others. Caroline did not show me anything about her soul when her turn came. She did not stroll like a whore but she tried to charm Mr. Webb like he was a cute puppy she just met.

  36. embee
    September 3, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    OT but does anyone here read SH? I tried to access the website today and it’s marked private by WordPress.

    • Jeannie5233
      September 3, 2013 at 8:19 PM

      embee – you are not the first to notice this – see comments upthread. Stoopid Housewives tweeted the site is under maintenance and will be back soon. 🙂

      • embee
        September 3, 2013 at 8:39 PM

        Thanks, Jeannie. I had read most of the comments on this thread earlier today so I was working my way up from the bottom this evening.

  37. Mom24kids
    September 3, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Ok I dislike Messy with a passion. However, as an ER/ICU nurse of almost 30 years I would like to clarify some of what that Ho has said/tweeted. 1st. Yes I believe that she received Morphine in her IV (not a drip but an injection) She probably had Normal Saline or Lactated Ringers hanging for hydration and thought that since she had a bag hanging thought she was on a drip. Also it is not uncommon to give antibiotics for a sore throat caused by a virus. The reason is not to kill the virus but to prevent a bacterial infection related to the raw throat that she had. The size of the pills alone make me think they were Bactrim (a low dose antibiotic). Also we NEVER give a medication as a placebo in the hospital (This may happen in Behavioral Health but not in the main med/surg areas. That is unethical and it just does not happen. So anyway just wanted to clarify. Oh and I HATE MEHO!
    Team Teresa!

  38. just this once
    September 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Check this out – Kathy Revealed!!!

    Reality Row ‏@RealityRow 47m
    IS KATHY WAKLIE TRYING TO FOOL VIEWERS? Blog updated! http://realityrow.com/1/post/2013/09/kathy-waklie-trying-to-fool-viewers.html

    • dubbalicious
      September 3, 2013 at 10:29 PM

      Good find jto.. I can’t stand Kathy..everything about her disgusts me. She’s a nobody..trying to be a somebody at the expense of her cousin, whom, she’d be completely nonexistent if it wasn’t for her!! How crazy is that shit? My favorite is when she’s selling herself on twitter..as if! Melissa’s a liar but, Kathy oozes insincerity!!

      • just this once
        September 3, 2013 at 10:34 PM

        TY! Hope Fame likes it!

    • ihateandy
      September 3, 2013 at 11:38 PM

      brilliant find!!! I like the logic in this article. I hope they do a Messy and Jax version. Boy, RHONJ is like an onion, layer after layer and brings on tears of WTF at times too.

    • elle
      September 3, 2013 at 11:47 PM

      I haven’t bought what she and Bravo have been selling since she first showed up as a regular and pedaled her way on that bike to the grocery store. That article lays it out nicely.

    • September 4, 2013 at 7:45 AM

      Thank you for sharing this. I enjoyed the article very much. Why has Bravo been showing Caroine filming with Kathy lately?

  39. NinaK
    September 3, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    Ugh. Just watched the two preview clips embedded above. TSIL is such an unlikable unwatchable bitch, and that’s that.

  40. September 3, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Fame,

    Please repost this… Best breakdown of Kathy ever!

    http://realityrow.com/1/post/2013/09/kathy-waklie-trying-to-fool-viewers.html

  41. September 3, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Just poppin’ in for a giggle, I was at the Salon tonight and a very nice looking gentleman was in the chair beside me getting his hair “updated” and I soooo wanted to ask him if he was aware of hair in a can……I just can’t take it, that and TSIL stompin’ so hard in her “live performance” she’s gonna knock a tooth out and “the best dentist” (I can’t recall the free service from whom) will be back in the headlines *.*

  42. September 3, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Random note:

    Nicole ritchie and Gia Giudice look like twins.

    http://instagram.com/nicolerichie (4th and 5th picture if when she was younger)

    http://www.allabouttrh.com/video-gia-giudice-through-the-years/

    Crazy

  43. September 4, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    http://teresagiudice.com/myblog/

    Teresa’s unedited blog.. bravo has not yet posted it so she posted it to her website.

    By the way… How obnoxious is this?

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-5/blogs/rhonj-tweet-recap/tweet-recap-melissas-regrets-and-

    Glad people are calling out the writer and Bravo

  44. EricaK
    September 4, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    They actually went to Vegas from AZ from March 22-24th for TSIL birthday appearance at Sugar Factory at Planet Hollywood. Not all the cast went to Vegas. It was just Tsil, Tb, Katfish and Richie. Everyone else must of headed back to Jersey from AZ. Tsil had already had the Sugar Factory appearance booked for a while cause it was advertised in the Vegas mags which I saw cause I live here. She must of not invited Teresa to join them in Vegas cause to begin with she wasn’t too happy about Tb inviting them to AZ in the first place. Their first day in Vegas, TB rented tsil a rolls royce from one of the local dealerships for her bday for them to cruise around Vegas in (My friend works at the place where they rented the car from)with the top off and they pulled up to the Paris into the Paris vallet in the car which is where they stayed. Later that night they did the appearance at Sugar Factory. They were in Vegas till the 24th so she must of not been that sick to be partying it up. Also, while most of the other cast went back home to their families from AZ, tsil still went to another state and spent more time away from her kids all while supposedly sick on morphine. She probably felt a lot better onceshe got rid of the extra baggage aka Teresa and was able to live it up in Vegas driving around in a borrowed rolls royce.

    • September 4, 2013 at 1:47 AM

      Thanks EricaK!

      Here’s the timeline that I knew about:

      March 16, 2013 – Casts depart for Arizona from Newark for a spa retreat to celebrate Melissa’s birthday (March 21st).

      March 21, 2013 – Caroline Manzo’s book party at Asellina in New York City

      March 23, 2013 – Melissa Gorga celebrates her 34th birthday and hosts a “meet and greet” at the Sugar Factory on the Miracle Mile Shops in the Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino in Las Vegas (not taped for season 5)

      March 23, 2013 – Teresa Giudice Has Dinner with Jacqueline Laurita, Jennifer Dalton and Elvira Grau (not taped for season 5)

      March 26, 2013 – Caroline’s book “Let Me Tell You Something” hit shelves

      March 28, 2013 – Teresa, Melissa and Jacqueline go to Dylan’s Candy Bar in New York City to support Kathy Wakile and her Dolci Della Dea Cannoli making kit

      March 29, 2013 – Caroline Manzo on Watch What Happens Live

      March 30, 2013 – Joe Gorga, Chris Laurita and Jacqueline Laurita get into fight with John Karagiorgis at the Grand Opening of Posche 2

      https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/rhonj-season-5-will-be-a-series-of-infomercials-mixed-with-scripted-drama/

  45. sittingcoffin
    September 4, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    This was the first episode this season I could watch, mostly because of Wyatt. That man can look in anyones eyes for 3 seconds and learn pretty much all of your deepest darkest secrets. Didn’t have to look hard for Melissa’s cause all she does is run game. My bf started watching the show last season, mostly for Theresa and Joe, but this season has been awful. More Wyatt….but Bravo isn’t about the truth, obviously.

  46. September 9, 2013 at 4:40 AM

    I’m a nurse too, and I’ve worked in the hospital, doctor’s office and acute care settings. Dani is correct in everything, except I FREQUENTLY started IV’s in the doc office (especially for patients we felt may need to be transported to the hospital). However, we did not give Morphine (although we DID in acute care) – we would have given Toradol instead (an injectable anti-inflammatory analgesic), and a limited prescription for pain medication (we also would’ve done a chest xray, lab work, a strep test, flu test and possibly given injectable steriods (solu medrol). Doctors and nurses are GREAT at spotting fakers, especially in the ER, and the diagnostic tests don’t lie, so she probably did feel kinda cruddy, but I SERIOUSLY doubt it was the worst pain of her life. If it were, she wouldn’t have felt miraculously better in less than 24 hrs later. As ALWAYS, if she isn’t being down right deceptive, she’s exaggerating! She’s a monumental PUTZ! The ONLY time I’ve seen her be even close to likable or genuine was when Mr. Tarzan Head (yep, I meant it the way you think) asked if she wanted “some,” and she stated, “Eww, NO,” just like I would have said it when feeling sick!

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