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Prosecutors Ask Bravo to Hand Over Unaired Footage from RHONJ for Proof of Inappropriate Spending by the Giudices

August 24, 2013

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The New York Daily News reported on August 18, 2013 that the feds have asked Bravo to hand over hours of unaired footage from “The Real Housewives of New Jersey” for proof on tape of inappropriate spending by the Giudices.

When the Giudices’ shaky finances came to light in June 2010, viewers had already watched a season and a half of Teresa “throwing extravagant parties and spending money wildly.” (During season 1, she was shown plunking down $120,360 in cash for furniture.)

In June 2009, Andy Cohen told ABC’s Nightline that the Housewives series was “a study in affluent human interplay and sociology of the affluent,” and he “makes no apologies for the conspicuous, often-crass spending habits the women display.” Cohen added:

“We’re putting it out there to reflect a certain slice of life in certain cities. It is for you to decide whether this is fun, offensive, hilarious, aspirational or what. We leave it to you. There’s no judgment. We love our housewives, I love them. They’re all our children. I love them. … All my crazy little girls.”

Teresa told The Bergen Record in early May 2009, shortly before the show debuted, it took her 10 to 11 months to sign onto the show because she was concerned that her “whole life” would be put out there, but what was great about the show was that “my whole life’s not out there… what I wanted them to know, they knew”:

“It took me 10 to 11 months to sign. … You couldn’t know how they’re going to portray you, and do you really want your whole life out there? But you know what’s great about it? My whole life’s not out there. … What I wanted them to know, they knew.”

In June 2010, eight months after the Giudices filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection (listing nearly $11 million in debt), a Bravo representative said the network “had no idea about any of that.”

However, in his 2012 book “Most Talkative,” Andy Cohen wrote that before they signed on, the five original RHONJ cast members “had many questions about the process and ramifications, questions unlike any we’d heard in the past.” For instance: “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?’” And Cohen confirmed that Teresa wrestled with whether to sign her contract:

She “dropped out of and then back into the show multiple times before we even started shooting,” he wrote. “We never got a straight answer about why she kept changing her mind, and at some point I just stopped asking.”

After the Giudices were indicted for money fraud on July 31, 2013, Virginia Rohan of The Bergen Record wrote:

“How well does Bravo vet its ‘Housewives’ stars, who are promoted as being rich and fabulous? And should network executives be held accountable if they knowingly portray their stars as something they are not, then reward them with the kind of money they claimed to already have?”

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For the past three seasons of RHONJ, viewers have watched cast members sell out each other and their family members for a slice of the Bravo pie, and their slices are a mere pittance compared to other networks. To supplement their Bravo salaries, the Housewives hit the streets to pimp products or hawk their wares on the show. Actors don’t have to do this, so why should reality TV stars? Real TV stars would not work for the pittance that Bravo pays their “talent.”

It’s one thing to have an established business when you sign up for a reality TV show, and then to use the show to help promote your business. But it’s a totally different scenario when infomercials are featured throughout a reality TV show to foist products onto the viewers. And why should viewers have to support the cast by buying their products – we support the network by watching the shows, which drives up ratings and brings in advertising dollars, which Bravo should use to fairly compensate the cast instead of expecting the viewers to spend our cash on their products (with a percentage of the sales going to Bravo) so that they can continue to live the high life.

Andy Cohen “throws out a grenade, lets it go, and says, ‘OK, ladies’,” and then laughs all the way to the bank at “all his crazy little girls,” for sure!

In what has become a tradition after each season ends, Cohen “refereed” a reunion of the feuding New Jersey housewives. It lasted six exhausting hours. “I threw out a grenade, let it go, and said, ‘OK, ladies,’ and it exploded multiple times. I had shrapnel. I went home, drank a bottle of wine and watched ‘Schindler’s List’ to relax.” – Andy Cohen, June 8, 2009, ABC Nightline

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The following are the full articles referenced and quoted above.

Prosecutors in Teresa and Joe Giudice case want unaired ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ footage as evidence
By New York Daily News
August 18, 2013

Bravo’s not just airing a series featuring Teresa and Joe Giudice — now the network’s being dragged into their legal drama.

Hours after entering a not-guilty plea Thursday on fraud charges before a crowded courtroom in Newark, Teresa, seeming not to have a care in the world, greeted camera crews and hundreds of fans who lined up at the Porsche Boutique in Wayne, N.J.

Behind the scenes, prosecutors have asked Bravo to hand over hours of unaired footage from “The Real Housewives of New Jersey,” a network source tells Confidenti@l.

“For every hour that airs, there are more than 20 hours of unedited footage,” the source tells us. “They shoot for three months and end up using only the footage that fits into the story line they want to focus on.”

In the past, the network has put together “lost footage” episodes, but generally most of the unused material is stored away and never seen again, according to our source.

Since the Giudices have been accused of 39 counts of fraud, including conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud, bank fraud, making false statements on loan applications and bankruptcy fraud, the footage has been requested to see if there is any proof on tape of inappropriate spending.

“The network is not happy,” says our source. “Everyone is asking if ‘Housewives’ ruined Teresa. The real question is, will Teresa ruin ‘Housewives’?”

A second source tells us that since the charges were filed against the Giudices, there has been barely a bump in the show’s ratings.

U.S. District Judge Esther Salas has set a trial date of Oct. 8 in the case. Teresa’s attorney Henry Klingeman, who claimed his client was being targeted for her “celebrity,” said she is focused on what’s important in her life.

“She’s concerned, but she’s taking care of business, taking care of her children, getting ready for school,” he said. “I’m confident we’ll have a really strong defense. I’m confident in her.”

The federal prosecution of the Jersey duo could not only derail their reality-TV career, it could send them to prison for years. The couple is charged with conspiring to fraudulently obtain millions of dollars in mortgages and loans that they used to give the appearance of living the high life. They’re also being accused of hiding income and failing to list assets in a bankruptcy filing in 2009.

In addition, Joe Giudice allegedly did not file tax returns from 2004 to 2008.

‘Real Housewives’: Sociology of the Affluent
By ABC Nightline
June 8, 2009

In what has become a tradition after each season ends, Cohen “refereed” a reunion of the feuding New Jersey housewives. It lasted six exhausting hours.

“I threw out a grenade, let it go, and said, ‘OK, ladies,'” Cohen says. “And it exploded multiple times. I had shrapnel. I went home, drank a bottle of wine and watched “Schindler’s List” to relax.”

But why would anyone want to watch hours of bickering, back-stabbing and social climbing?

“I love sociology,” Cohen says. “I love the way people relate to each other. This is a study in affluent human interplay, and the manners and etiquette and social mores of a certain set of people. If anyone feels guilty watching, that’s a way to justify it. It is sociology of the affluent.”

Cohen makes no apologies for the conspicuous, often-crass spending habits the women display, even as the rest of the country reels from an economic meltdown.

“Look,” he says, “we’re putting it out there to reflect a certain slice of life in certain cities. It is for you to decide whether this is fun, offensive, hilarious, aspirational or what. We leave it to you. There’s no judgment. We love our housewives, I love them. They’re all our children. I love them. … All my crazy little girls.”

The producers have learned how to take that “crazy” nouveau-riche behavior and turn it into reality TV gold.

“We call it kind of the Bravo wink,” Cohen says. “It’s a cutaway, it’s a reaction to what someone’s saying. … It’s maybe someone saying something and then you see them doing something maybe a little different from what they’re saying. But it’s a definite editorial point of view that also makes it OK to watch the show, because we’re all in on it together.”

Like when New Jersey housewife Giudice proclaims she’s not a stage mom, and a second later is seen mouthing lyrics as she coaches her young daughter at a recital.

‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ stars’ hidden lives go public
By Virginia Rohan, The Bergen Record (NorthJersey.com)
July 31, 2013

Teresa Giudice dragged her heels about signing the contract that made her one of “The Real Housewives of New Jersey.” Today, that seems telling.

“It took me 10 to 11 months to sign. … You couldn’t know how they’re going to portray you, and do you really want your whole life out there?” Teresa told The Record in early May 2009, shortly before the show debuted, adding something that now seems ironic. “But you know what’s great about it? My whole life’s not out there. … What I wanted them to know, they knew.”

Now the world has learned a lot more about Teresa and husband Joe Giudice than they surely ever wanted outsiders to know. The Montville couple were indicted on charges they conspired to defraud banks and other lenders in connection with nearly $4 million in mortgages, construction loans and home equity loans they received between 2001 and 2008. And the pair find themselves living in two different realities: one of wealth and privilege that viewers see on television on Sunday nights, and one of scary possibilities that began to unfold Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Newark.

In the couple’s initial court appearance on a 39-count indictment, U.S. Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Walder set bail at $500,000 each and ordered them to surrender their passports.

In the weeks and months to come, the Giudices will be forced to relive yet another reality — the one that existed before “Housewives” came on the air. And this reality raises some serious questions for Bravo, the network that airs “RHONJ.”

How well does Bravo vet its “Housewives” stars, who are promoted as being rich and fabulous? And should network executives be held accountable if they knowingly portray their stars as something they are not, then reward them with the kind of money they claimed to already have? The network again offered no comment on the matter on Tuesday.

When the Giudices’ shaky finances came to light in June 2010, eight months after the couple had filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection, a Bravo representative said the network “had no idea about any of that.”

But maybe Bravo should have known. In his 2012 book “Most Talkative,” Andy Cohen — Bravo’s executive vice president of development and talent as well as an on-air host — wrote that before they signed on, the five original “RHONJ” cast members “had many questions about the process and ramifications, questions unlike any we’d heard in the past. For instance: “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?’”

Did this not raise a red flag?

Cohen confirmed that Teresa wrestled with whether to sign her contract. She “dropped out of and then back into the show multiple times before we even started shooting,” he wrote. “We never got a straight answer about why she kept changing her mind, and at some point I just stopped asking.”

Cohen should not have stopped asking.

Certainly this issue has come up before. Had Bravo more carefully checked the finances of “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” star Taylor Armstrong, the network probably would have discovered that her boast about her husband, Russell Armstrong, being “richer than Texas” was far from true. When Russell was found dead, an apparent suicide in August 2011, Cohen writes in his book, “he’d left a suitcase full of unpaid bills next to his body.”

If his financial reality had been uncovered beforehand, his wife should have been disqualified from doing the show. That might not, ultimately, have prevented the tragedy, but it would have protected Bravo from being blamed by some media outlets for his death.

Isn’t it also the job of the network to protect poseurs who are blinded by the possibility of stardom or, frankly, too dumb to protect themselves? Did the Giudices fully grasp that any past misdeeds might be more likely to come to light simply because they’d gone from everyday people to high-profile “Bravolebrities,” as Cohen likes to call his stars?

“This is one of the big risks of getting on a show that a lot of people don’t understand. You’re under the microscope … in every single way,” said Robert Galinsky, founder of the New York Reality TV School. “So anything you do could be great material for the show, or is potentially something positive or a liability for you in your real life.”

Those who watch “RHONJ” also bear a bit of blame. How many times have we seen the Giudices curse and brawl and say stupid things on camera and thought to ourselves, “How the heck did these crude and clownish people get so rich?” And yet we shake off those nagging questions and keep watching, essentially egging them on to misbehave for our amusement. If we didn’t watch, they wouldn’t remain on the air. In its fifth season, “RHONJ” remains one of Bravo’s top-rated shows.

Cartoon-like as they may seem, the Giudices, who have four young daughters, are real people with real lives — something perhaps even they have lost track of. I wonder if they’ve come to feel they’re in their own little “Truman Show” world, nestled in a protective bubble they think will shield them from the consequences of their actions.

On Sunday night, “RHONJ” fans watched the last of a three-episode arc about a retreat that Teresa and her brother, Joe Gorga, their spouses and some cousins made at a Lake George resort earlier this year in an effort to mend fences. The episode essentially wrapped up a very messy long-running story line with a neat little bow — everyone hugged and agreed that family is more important than the causes behind the feud.

Then on Monday came the jolting news that the Giudices had much more troubling issues to resolve. Some of the charges they face carry penalties of up to 30 years in prison and hefty fines. And Joe Giudice, 43, who we learned this week is an Italian citizen, faces deportation if convicted.

Joe is also charged with failing to file tax returns for the years 2004 through 2008, a period during which he allegedly earned nearly $1 million.

Galinsky said he could think of only one other example that approached this level of seriousness: first “Survivor” winner Richard Hatch, who served time in prison for tax evasion and tax fraud. “Usually, the misbehaviors are more emotional and more relationship-oriented, between people — between spouses and castmates, family.”

By the time it came to light that Teresa and Joe had filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, listing nearly $11 million in debt, viewers had already watched a season and a half of Teresa throwing extravagant parties and spending money wildly. (During Season One, she was shown plunking down $120,360 for furniture. She paid cash, she said nonsensically, because she’d heard “there’s a recession going on.”)

The 2009 bankruptcy filing brought the prospect of an on-site auction of the Giudices’ belongings, which were even listed and pictured on the website of the court-appointed auction house. Ultimately, the sale was called off, but for Teresa the humiliation stung.

At the federal courthouse Tuesday, when a reporter asked about the fact that Joe could be deported if convicted, Joe’s mother reportedly snapped: “None of your [expletive] business. Worry about yourself.”

Sadly, it is our business. It became so when her daughter-in-law overcame her trepidation and signed that Bravo contract. And now the Giudices are finding out that they can’t have it both ways.

Sooner or later, reality and “reality” are bound to collide.

By Saddle_River_NJ, Fame-Whorgas
July 31, 2013

I’ve pretty much had it with Bravo and it’s horrid brand of manufactured reality.

I started watching RHONJ only because it is filmed locally and I got a kick out of seeing that on TV. The drama part is cookie cutter for any of these Bravo shows. I doesn’t matter if it’s Housewives, Princesses or turnips.

Little Miss Cohen took what used to be a legitimate channel for the arts and turned it into a bitchy slap fest of low class trash. Look at any preview for any of the shows. It’s just gutter snipes screeching and fighting. It’s a PG rated cage fight.

Tre and Joe did nothing more or less than many people have done. How many folks out there ever fudged a bit on a credit card application? Anyone ever left off a few bucks made at a garage sale from “other income” on a tax form? How many people out there reading this got a mortgage in the last 10 years or so that was based on “less than accurate” information?

I’m not going play holier than thou with the Guidices. I don’t care what they did or didn’t do. I grew to be fond of the family and felt so bad that they were being treated so poorly by Bravo editors and their fellow cast members. Now I feel absolutely sick. I’ve never gotten emotionally involved with people I watch on TV. I feel so bad for Tre – as if she were actually an acquaintance of mine.

I really can’t watch much more of this show and this entire experience has soured me on the reality TV universe. Give me back my mid-90′s “Nick at Nite” with it’s happy, predictable pablum….

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  1. August 24, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Affluent social interplay, I think not. Andy should have learned his lesson from RHOA. I watched the show and my first reaction was, where did these women get their money. I did a little research and found out they didn’t have any money. Same thing with RHONJ. It took me about 5 minutes to find out they were broke. Maybe Andy’s sociological angle is to see how he can fool people into believing what he presents to us. I hope his house of cards falls hard. The feds need to question the other cast members on their income and spending, especially Joe Gorga and Chris Laurita. Hopefully, they will get their just redemption.

  2. yup
    August 24, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    “before they signed on, the five original RHONJ cast members “had many questions about the process and ramifications, questions unlike any we’d heard in the past. For instance: “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?’””

    Hilarious, knowing what we know now. I wonder if any of this was concern over hiding mob ties…Al Manzo, I’m looking at you…

    • Buck Henry
      August 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM

      I was about to say the same thing, that one sentence says it all. How many of us would make a comment like that unless we where hiding something (especially the wiretapping, seriously). Let me tell all of you something, the Fed aren’t stupid. They know what it’s like in that area of the state and country. They, either from other people or from experience know that Joe and others in that group are connected aka low level mob associates or know some. What happened over the years and with help from others they got something on a few of them and then possibly may have wiretaps (who knows who else is waiting to get hammered). Ask yourself why during this time and age going after million dollar fraud that they (the federal govt.) is allowing Chris Laurita and his lawyers to drag out this 55 million dollar bleeding of their old company. I mean that is real big and would be a feather in the cap of FBI, IRS and SEC. I think they are building a major case and got the lowest hanging fruit in order to get him and her (Joe and Teresa) to flip.

      You may say Joe won’t flip or Teresa, but look at what the Feds have. They are actual counts that they not no one else did and have in writing. The reason why their lawyers aren’t saying these are lies or false is because they can’t. They are trying to get the public to say she can’t go to prison she has 4 kids and she needs her man etc. etc., thats all they have. Looking at 39 counts and possibly Joe going away for (not 25 to 50 years), but 50 to 100 years and Teresa 25 years along with Joe being deported after serving (if still alive). They will do anything to lessen time and save their bacon and family. Joe will rat out people he worked with and have connections and everything he knows about his group.

      As I said before, bleeding a company for at least 55 million on bankruptcy fraud should have the FBI and IRS going at them. The reason is they are building an air tight case and it will hurt Chris Laurita.

      • Silvana
        August 24, 2013 at 11:07 PM

        So buck if I understand you correctly what you saying is that the Laurita’s day is coming?? God I hope that’s what your saying??

        • August 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM

          I hope they have it coming also after all the joy they seem to have over others troubles.
          Bravo gets them women and tells them we want to see wealth and spending living large! Then the women go after each other for it. Merry-go-round!

      • yup
        August 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

        true, and if they Laurita’s gave the feds info on the Guidices, why wouldn’t the Guidices do the same thing back?

      • August 25, 2013 at 2:31 AM

        After what they have all done to the Giudices, I hope you are right and I hope they both tell all they know.

      • August 25, 2013 at 3:35 AM

        It is a very interesting question to ask your future employer. Most people ask about vacation pay, health care insurance – but asking will you audit or wiretap your employees…..no! Well maybe, if you are doing things that an audit or a wiretap might reveal to be illegal.

      • GPM
        August 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        I don’t believe Andy’s book indicated exactly which NJ HW asked those questions.

        Interestingly, however, at the time they were casting RHONJ ultramarathoner Charlie Engle’s problems with the IRS/bank were just heating up. Whoever the HW or husband was, they didn’t have to be

        What brought Charlie to the IRS’s attention? Charlie’s appearance on Running the Sahara, the Matt Damon documentary. The IRS agent watching the documentary simply started to wonder where Charlie, a producer for Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, got the money to live on while training and started investigating him.

        How did the feds build a case against him? When the agent couldn’t make a tax case against him, they looked into his real estate loans. They had the documentation of his “liars loans” but, since that wasn’t enough (and indeed Engle claims that he didn’t complete the paperwork, his loan officer did), the feds had a attractive female undercover agent, Ellen Burrows, meet Mr. Engle, who was a single father of two teenage boys at the time, and see if she could get him to say something incriminating while she was wearing a wire.

        And she succeeded, as he mentioned having “a couple of liars loans out there.” The feds were able to use the tape at trial to get a jury to convict him.

        A lot of people, high profile journalists in particular, have taken up Charlie’s case on the basis that he was “the smallest of small fry” singled out for prosecution while the bankers who set up the process not only go free but have earned tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars on them.

        Charlie was found guilty and got 3 years in prison, but he’s become a bit of a folk hero and I believe he’s writing a book about his experiences.

        Whoever the NJ HW or husband was who was asking the questions appeared to have more than a passing understanding of law enforcement investigatory technique. Say, didn’t we see the Manzos on the RHONJ with their old friend, Bernie Kerik, the NYC Police Commissioner who was indicted on 16 counts of conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud, taking gifts and lying to the Internal Revenue Service and who just finished doing 33 months after plea bargaining? Why yes, I believe we did. And according to Al Manzo, he speculates Kerik will have two or three books out of it and maybe even a TV movie!

        http://gothamist.com/2013/05/28/ex-nypd_commissioner_bernard_kerik.php

        • MurfsGirl
          August 25, 2013 at 5:05 PM

          Stunning info…kudos to you!

        • kayswhims
          August 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

          Wow. I love this site!

          • Silvana
            August 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM

            GPM interesting read especially the last paragraph I do remember seeing him on the 1st season to.

        • happylady
          August 25, 2013 at 9:36 PM

          Thank you so much for this!

        • cass
          August 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM

          great info…thanks!

    • kayswhims
      August 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM

      Five original cast members.

      Dina – “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?” Nope I can not picture her asking that question. She seems to avoid trouble and conflict. She seems to want to do what is right even if it is against her family. She did however marry Tiny Manzo’s son but she is separated from him now.

      Jac – “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?” Yes, I can picture her asking that question. For one she loves to ask questions and she hides the truth with many outrageous lies. She is also suspicious of others and what they are up to. She collected data on Danielle.

      Danielle – “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?” Yes, I can picture her asking this question. See seems paranoid of many things but with her history I understand why.

      Caroline – “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?” No, I can not believe she would ask that question. She avoids and smooths over anything that would give the impression that her husband and sons our following in Tiny Manzo’s footsteps.

      Teresa – “Has anyone been audited as a result of this show? Or wiretapped?” No, I can not picture her asking that question. Teresa is either very naive or she is a mastermind. They can not have it both ways. She came on the show to have fun shopping and be like the other reality shows, not this. She is not suspicious and she complies easily. She is a good employee.

      Of these five original cast members, two were allowed to leave, Teresa wanted to leave but Bravo refused to let her go. She was the best thing to happen to the show. Bravo had to find a reason to keep Jac and Caroline, why?

      • When Pigs Fly
        August 27, 2013 at 9:05 PM

        Oh, please…Teresa wanted to leave but Bravo refused to let her go. What did Bravo do? Chain her to the cameras, force her to show up for filming.

  3. Jeannie5233
    August 24, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Hello Everyone –

    I just wanted to let you all know that late last night my beautiful mother, dressed in her party best, put on her lavender satin dancing shoes and is now dancing to the music of the angels with her beloved husband – my father – up in Heaven. While her journey was painful for her at times, the last twelve hours were peaceful and serene and I was able to hold her as she took her last breath here in this world. What an honor it was to witness that! It will take me awhile, for it has been a long two years of my life put on hold, to find my own way again but I take great comfort in that my mom is finally where she needs to be.

    Thank you all, from the bottom of my heart, for being with me through the most difficult time of my life. I couldn’t have gotten through these last ten months without the FW community since I started posting. The kindness, support, and compassion I have been given here will stay with me always.

    XO
    Jeannie

    • elle
      August 24, 2013 at 8:12 PM

      So very sorry for your loss, Jeannie.

      • Silvana
        August 24, 2013 at 9:17 PM

        So sorry for your loss jeannie. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family:-(

    • happylady
      August 24, 2013 at 8:18 PM

      Condolences Jeannie. Sending love your way!

    • LifeIsGood
      August 24, 2013 at 8:20 PM

      Jeannie, I am so very sorry for your loss.

      I held my fathers hand as he passed. Having the opportunity to thank him and tell him how much I loved him gave me much comfort in the hard days that followed. It may not happen right away, but in time when you think of your mom your first thought will not be of the difficult last leg of her journey, rather, your thoughts will be of all the wonderful memories.

      You’re a good daughter, Jeannie. I’ll pray for you and your family tonight.

      • Spaghetti Kitten
        August 25, 2013 at 2:31 AM

        You said everything I want to say LIG…only better. Stay strong Jeannie and so glad you popped in to let us know. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Much Love, Aud

    • charok
      August 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

      jeannie i am so sorry to hear this and very sorry for your loss, but you are right she is in a better place and reunited with your father. ( hug)

    • Meri
      August 24, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      Jeannie, so sorry for your loss. You are an inspirtion to us all, The way you put your life on hold for two years to make your mom’s last years so very special. I love the way you described her dancing in heaven with her husband…I truly believe she is doing just that. Much love your way. xoxox

    • Kimmers
      August 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM

      Jeannie, i am so very sorry for your loss. You are truly a kindhearted person and I’m sure your Mother was very proud of you. And what a good daughter you have been. God Bless you. I’ll be thinking of you and sending sympathetic wishes.

    • ChemGeek
      August 24, 2013 at 9:20 PM

      I am sorry for the loss of your mother from this world. Sending love and hugs, Jeannie, to you and your loved ones. Your mother is so lucky to have you as her daughter. It is such a blessing to know that you will see her again. I wish you all the best!

    • August 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM

      Jeannie, you made your mother proud and have been an inspiration to us all. Through your sorrow, hold fast to the joy and love you gave your mom, not just her final days and hours but from the moment she first held you in her arms. Prayers to your family.

    • IamNobodysHW
      August 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM

      It will be 30 years this November when my mom passed (she was 55 yrs old). I still miss her everyday. I too was holding her tight not wanting to let her go but at the same time praying her pain will end. Our Mom’s will forever live in our hearts. May god ease your pain and heal your heart.

    • kayswhims
      August 24, 2013 at 10:00 PM

      You have a beautiful heart Jeannie. Hugs

    • tulip
      August 24, 2013 at 10:02 PM

      Jeannie,

      So sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I lost my mother in 2000. It was good that you got to spend those last few hours with her. You can take comfort in the fact that you took such great care of her and gave of yourself til the end. Your mother must have been a very special lady to have raised a great person like you.

    • August 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM

      Oh My Goodness, Jeannie, you have my deepest condolences. Take good care of yourself.

    • ks2id2tx
      August 24, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      I am so sorry for your loss, Jeannie! But, I am glad that you are able to find some peace, knowing your mother is in a better place. My prayers are with you, & your Mom, who’s watching over you now.

    • August 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM

      Jeannie, I’m so sorry! Yes, your mother is in heaven where she will be forever happy, healthy, young, beautiful and dancing with her husband. My deepest condolence’s, Jeannie. Love and prayers coming from Oklahoma to you.

    • Monique
      August 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM

      So sorry for your loss, Jeannie. You have such a tremendous heart and we can thank your mother for that. You have such a positive attitude. I admire you for that.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      August 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM

      Im so sorry for your loss. You were a lucky pair – to have each other making this difficult journey. You are the daughter that all mothers hope thiers will become. You are both my prayers.

    • yup
      August 25, 2013 at 1:25 AM

      I’m so sorry for your loss, Jeannie, but I feel happy for your mother that she’s now at peace. I’m sending love your way, I hope you feel it.

    • AnnieMarie
      August 25, 2013 at 2:12 AM

      I’m so sorry for your loss. Keeping you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.

    • August 25, 2013 at 2:28 AM

      Oh Jeannie…I am so sorry for your loss, but very thankful that her last hours were peaceful and serene and spent with you. What a wonderful daughter and caregiver you have been!!! Sending you many hugs and much love and will be thinking of you!

    • nsr1076
      August 25, 2013 at 2:40 AM

      I’m so sorry for your loss Jeannie, may God give you the strength you need. My prayers are with you and your family. Your mom along with your dad right now are full of pride that they raised such a lovely kind hearted daughter likeyou. Take care.

    • August 25, 2013 at 4:12 AM

      I’m not sure if this will work. I’ve not tried to post photos before but I have a suggestion for our beautiful friend Jeannie.

      I suggest we have a day off from the disaster of RHONJ and build a wall of flowers to show our condolences and support. – if this doesn’t work, maybe we can do it to our Avitars?

      Jeannie. Sending you BIG LOVE!

      • August 25, 2013 at 4:17 AM

        …if only I could figure our how to do it!

        • August 25, 2013 at 10:07 AM

          I will in spirit… and it will be beautiful tulips surrounded by beautiful daisy’s. Heck I don’t even know how to put my profile picture up. *.*

      • kayswhims
        August 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM

        I like the flower avitar idea. This is a morning glory from my garden Jeannie.

        • nsr1076
          August 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM

          So do I. Jeannie I’m sending you a big ((((hug)))).

      • August 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

        What a wonderful idea, Sackem!!

      • August 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM

        Great idea. In case I am not successful in downloading the picture of my flowers for Jeannie’s mother, they are lavender and pink, to match her mother’s dancing shoes. Still shedding bittersweet tears.

    • NCGal
      August 25, 2013 at 5:21 AM

      My deepest sympathy to you and yours.

    • dp9113
      August 25, 2013 at 6:38 AM

      Jeannie so sorry about your loss. My prayers are with you and your family.

    • August 25, 2013 at 7:02 AM

      As you know, my prayers are with you and your family.

      • August 25, 2013 at 9:28 AM

        mamajackie
        my aol is down so I cant ans anybody
        oh how I love the way ms jeannies mama went to heaven,and I know onjo greeted her after JESUS and her hubby did,,,i love you all

        • August 25, 2013 at 1:05 PM

          I have been crying on and off all morning. Happy tears because her mother went so peacefully and sad tears because I know Jeannie’s loss.

          • August 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

            your arrangement of flowers are beautiful,
            me too im very sad not becus shes gone but I know shes going to be lost for aawhile but she will keep busy and all our prayers will help her
            big kisses n hugs to all

            • August 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

              Oh celi, I always have fresh flowers in this house. It is no coincidence that my husband picked these for me to arrange, he did the shopping yesterday (and never picks this color combination). Is it not wonderful that Jeannie’s mother has been joined with her husband, Jesus, God, has met Onjo and my parents also.

              There is no more we can do for Jeannie’s mother, she is in heaven. We have to now pray for Jeannie and her family. Prayers are powerful (and good thoughts).

              • Anonymous
                August 25, 2013 at 10:54 PM

                thanks ms Jackie
                my email aol.com is down I cant see or respond to anyone,SORRY

    • August 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM

      You have my condolences, you are a good daughter.

    • August 25, 2013 at 9:16 AM

      Jeannie, I have found that since my own Mother has passed(exactly 21 years to the day as your Mother) I have found a reason to celebrate death. Total freedom from pain, sorrow, and all things uncertain. The coming days you will find yourself “lost” at times and please, for me, someone you don’t even know, think of those “lavender satin shoes” and simply just smile *.*

      • August 25, 2013 at 9:31 AM

        amen I see that now tooooo buyingshoes it took 5 yrs after our onjo.org left us did we see this ,im sorry for your loss too.i love you

      • August 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

        What a beautiful sentiment.

    • Russkaya
      August 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM

      Sorry for your loss Jeannie. Love and hugs

    • 65dianna
      August 25, 2013 at 10:32 AM

      Ms Jeannie. Sorry for your loss. Sending prayers your way.

    • CleverID
      August 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM

      My sincere condolences on the passing of your mother, I don’t post often but am sending you positive thoughts and prayers.

    • August 25, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      im so so sorry jeannie, accept my condolences Jeannie. RIP.

    • dp9113
      August 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

      My dearest Jeannie. I will continue to pray for you. When my mother passed I learned I would never find anyone to take her place, just someone to fill her space.
      I hope you can find one thing that you really loved about your mother and make it your own. This helped me so much with my mothers passing. To this day I still think of mother when someone tells me “wow your a nice person” My dear mother was the nicest and most loved person by all that I have ever met. I am but a shadow of what she was. She was not only the person who gave me life, she was also the person who changed me profoundly after her death. Her legacy lives on in me…………..

    • Confused
      August 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      So sorry for your loss, I am praying for you and your family. I am grateful that you were able to be with your mother as she passed, I understand how cathartic it is (as weird as it is).

    • August 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      Jeannie, you're in our thoughts and prayers. ❤

      "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord (for we walk by faith, not by sight): we are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:6-8)

      "If we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him." (1 Thessalonians 4:14)

      "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him." (1 Corinthians 2:9)

      "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." (1 Corinthians 13:12)

      “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in His throne.” (Revelation 3:21)

      “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before His angels.” (Revelation 3:5)

      • cass
        August 27, 2013 at 5:44 PM

        Jeanne…..so sorry to her of the loss of your dear sweet Mother…may she rest in peace

    • adioslunatic
      August 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

      Dear Jeannie,
      Sincerest condolences and many prayers for you and your family.
      AL

    • August 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

      Jeannie,

      You have my deepest condolenscenes. I’m glad that you doing well and your mother is at peace now with your father.

    • Deb G
      August 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM

      Jeannie, so sorry for your loss. I love what you said about about her dancing in Heaven. God Bless you in your mourning the bible says he is close to the broken hearted, he will weep with you and comfort you.

    • GPM
      August 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM

      I am so sorry for your loss, Jeannie5233. I hope it is a comfort to you to know that you do honor to your parents. I can only think they must have been truly phenomenal — because they raised you!

    • August 25, 2013 at 4:15 PM

      Sorry for your loss Jeannie. Please accept my deepest sympathies and condolences. xxx

    • MurfsGirl
      August 25, 2013 at 5:13 PM

      Two angels left us yesterday…your beautiful mother and you, as an angel personified (with all your dedication & devotion to your mother). You ARE one of our earth angels…God bless you, Jeannie!

    • Calypso
      August 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM

      Oh Jeannie I’m so sorry for your loss. I pray you feel our love and strength with you always. Thank you for sharing your mother’s wisdom and stories with us; it has been an honor knowing her through you. I will forever remember and look for the beauty and inspiration behind her words ~ the Lord often writes with a crooked pen. Our thoughts and prays are with you and your family.

    • eclip9t8
      August 25, 2013 at 8:30 PM

      i haven’t been posting on here for long, but very sorry to hear of your loss jeannie5233. thinking of you and yours xxx

    • threegirlsofone
      August 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      Jeannie, my thoughts and prayers are with you as you try to make sense of the loss of your beloved mother. May the many memories you have of her bring some small measure of comfort to you as you grieve, and I hope that when you look at the wondrous nighttime sky, you feel her presence in the stars, as I do my brother.

    • NinaK
      August 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM

      Oh Jeannie, I am so sorry for your loss. Thinking of you at this difficult time. xoxo

    • RedVelvetCake
      August 25, 2013 at 9:30 PM

      My condolences to you and your family.

    • Miami53
      August 25, 2013 at 9:54 PM

      Jeannie,

      I’ve been a lurker for the last 18 months, I’ve always enjoy reading your comments…you have such great insight about this show. When I had read that your beloved mom had pass on, I teared up. To have a daughter who showed so much love and tenderness… would make any mother proud. May your mother Rest In Peace and prayers and thoughts to you and your family.

    • JerseyGirlsRock
      August 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM

      So sorry for you loss. Thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

    • August 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM

      So very sorry-may God bless you , you will be in my prayers. Yes she is dancing in Heaven now.

    • August 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM

      so sorry for your loss Jeannie. I was there also with my mom 3 years ago when she took her last breath from cancer. She was peaceful & not in pain. I still miss her every single day. Praying for you and your family. Take comfort in knowing you will see her again one day.

    • Happy Holly Daze
      August 26, 2013 at 7:16 PM

      XOXO I know how you must be feeling right now Jeanie.. Please know, that your family are and will be in my prayers tonight, and in the future.. The Angels were singing her praises, thats for sure, YOU Jeanie are an Angel on earth, for being there for her as well….

    • August 28, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      So so sorry for your loss Jeannie. Your mother’s pain here has ended and she’s now where we all hope to be when our time comes. From your post I surmise that you also believe that you will be with her again. While it doesn’t stop you from missing her, at least you know when you talk to her she’ll still hear you. Even with my beliefs, ever since my mom died my life has not been the same. I only wish words could take away your pain and sadness… ((((Jeannie))))

  4. Luvfamewhorgas
    August 24, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Hugs Jeannie. Thinking of you.

  5. Dubbalicious
    August 24, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Jeannie, I am so sorry to hear about your mother. As her daughter, I can only imagine how proud she must have been. You have been such a great example of grace and strength during your her illness. Your words when speaking of her were always filled with such love, respect and honor. And I admire you greatly!! Thankfully, her final hours were peaceful and serene..surrounded by what mattered most..her family. Thank you for sharing this very difficult time with us. I’ve learned so much from you. Please know, you are in my thoughts!!

  6. JUST ME P
    August 24, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    JEANNIE I AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, MANY PRAYER FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, MAY GOD GIVE YOU THE STRENGTH YOU NEED AT THI S SAD TIME

  7. August 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    My prayers are with you. Peace

  8. mare
    August 24, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    I am so sorry Jeannie. I lost my mother much the same way. Although she had a hard battle with cancer, she wasn’t in pain as she passed. She seemed to be at peace. I hope you, as I did, find comfort in this.
    This was over twenty years ago, but I still feel her when things get tough. I believe a mother’s love stays with you forever.
    God bless you and your family.

  9. August 24, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    ms Jeannie
    my heart is with you n your family
    JESUS IS TOO

  10. Debbie J
    August 24, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Jeannie,

    Prayers are with you and your family. I am so sorry for your loss.

  11. Anonymous
    August 24, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Jeannie I do not post often but read everything. No words can express your loss. You have been a great and loving caregiver and daughter for your mom. How blessed are you to see your mom leave this world and join your father into the next. You are blessed.

  12. August 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    By the way, Teresa said that their throwing around all that money for furniture and lavish spending was fake, fake, fake, and it was Bravo’s idea. If anything good comes out if this it will be the exposure of Bravo as the most phony, malicious, purveyor of lies on television today. And the nail in the coffin of these fake reality shows. It’s all fiction and cannot be used as evidence which will come out in deposition unless the producers want to go to jail for perjury.

    • qb
      August 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM

      I was thinking the same thing as well, I hope the release the footage to the public afterward! Especially Stripper gate!

    • August 25, 2013 at 2:29 AM

      Gessie, I was thinking the same thing. Fingers crossed!

      • August 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM

        Bravo’s little bubble will be burst no matter how this plays out.

    • Honnie Badger
      August 26, 2013 at 1:57 PM

      honestly, I don’t understand. So, Bravo gave Teresa more than $100,000 of their own or borrowed money just so she can act out that scene? I’m sure this will come up and be clarified in court. If that is true, Bravo will not be able to hide it in Federal Court.

      • August 28, 2013 at 6:01 PM

        Trust me… Teresa did not have $100,000 in that or any scene.

        • August 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM

          Just want to add. I hope you do realize that you can’t hold $100,000 in your hand in $20s or even in $100s. She would have needed a briefcase or some other type of large bag.

  13. Connie
    August 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    So sorry for your loss Jeannie

  14. yup
    August 25, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    I was watching the “first look” for the next episode on bravotv.com and once again Jac brings up that, after she and Teresa made up during the RV trip in California, she overheard Teresa talking to “somebody” and saying “I hate Jacqueline, I can’t even stand to look at her face!”

    I don’t doubt that Teresa said that–Jac is a crazy bitch but she doesn’t make up lies (at least not when she’s going to confront the person) and I would understand why Teresa felt that way and just wanted to make up so they could all get through the trip without fighting or things being awkward.

    Here’s what I don’t understand: when Jac overheard Teresa, why didn’t she confront her right then and there? We all know that Jac has NO impulse control (we’ve all seen her tweets) and goes into psycho-bitch mode whenever she feels wronged. Instead, Jac said nothing about it, continued to act normal on the trip and interact with Teresa, but was livid about it later.

    When Jac retells the story, she always says Teresa was talking to “someone”. If it was Joe or Melissa or Kathy, Jac would just say that. If Teresa was talking on the phone, I think Jac would say “I overheard Teresa on the phone saying ‘I hate Jacqueline'” instead of “I heard her telling someone”. Usually when people are referred to in a vague way on this show, it’s because the cast can’t break the “fourth wall” and mention the production staff. But if Jac overheard Teresa telling one of the producers that she hates Jac right after making up with her on camera, I can’t imagine Jac calmly walking away and keeping the info to herself. She would have confronted Teresa immediately (again, she has no impulse control–look what happens when someone pisses her off on twitter–she has to DM them to tell them off and then block them so they can’t reply; she DOES NOT walk away from confrontation).

    So what under what circumstances would Jac be unable to immediately confront Teresa after overhearing this? The only thing I could think of is that Teresa was filming a ‘talking head’ interview and discussing what had just happened, but aren’t those always filmed later in their homes? I don’t remember any TH interviews that took place during the RV trip.

    So who is this “someone” and why didn’t Jac immediately confront Teresa in her usual wacko jacko style?

    • elle
      August 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

      Remember the story of Sisyphus? The gods punished him by making him roll a huge boulder up a hill each day…once he got it up there it rolled back down and he had to start rolling it back up again, and again, and again… What the hell did we all do to deserve this show ?!?! TSIL and TB are still on the Teresa’s hands are dirty campaign. Jac is still getting info that we haven’t seen happen on screen despite all the cameras, etc. Another trip is being planned and Caroline and Albert act like they would rather be cleaning up a landfill than participating. Teresa is still mainly concerned with her bathing suits. This show is our boulder.

    • August 25, 2013 at 3:06 AM

      Your so right, Yup! It was what a couple of days after their “make-up” that Caroline had her argument with Tre at Napa? Right there was a good time for Jaq to tell Tre off, instead Jaq faked sleeping! The Caroline vs Tre argument would have allowed Jaq to tag team with Caroline on criticizing, insulting and belittling Tre! Also, the Napa scene was filmed in 2011, correct? Jaq brought that up at the reunion a little more than a year after it happened!

    • August 25, 2013 at 3:24 AM

      IMHO, Wacky Jacky is either hearing voices or once again making things up.

      She can’t prove who she hear Teresa talking to and considering no one on the trip has backed up her “Napa Valley Story”…..this is just another attack on her obsession.
      Wacky’s MO is to put out a very damning allegation but never gives “proof” to back it up – you can’t un ring a bell. This is no different than that mysterious texts about Teresa setting up TB and TSIL at the last Posche Fashion show or saying at the reunion she has recorded telephone conversations but can’t use them.

    • GEM13
      August 25, 2013 at 4:41 AM

      I think Jacqueline said she overheard Teresa telling TSIL that Teresa hated her. I can’t recall the exact words. But I thought TSIL confirmed the conversation. Anyone else remember it?

      • Silvana
        August 25, 2013 at 5:12 AM

        Yes Gem I remember that!

      • August 28, 2013 at 6:08 PM

        Of course TSIL would confirm that. They work together. A short time after that would have supposedly happened Kathy asked Jac if everything with Teresa worked out and if they were okay and Jac answered that “yes, everything was better… they talked it out.” Jac admitted that they were in a good place. Please tell me how Jac would have been able to get those words out if she had heard Teresa say that? Jac wouldn’t have been able to contain herself. They are BOTH lying.

    • NCGal
      August 25, 2013 at 5:25 AM

      I never believed Jac “overheard” anything. I believe Teresa made the comment to her sister in law (T has never denied it) and TSIL went running to Jac with it. I can envisioin the conversation now.

      TSIL: So did you and Teresa make up?
      J: Yes.
      TSIL: Well, that’s funny, because after you talked, she told me….etc. etc. etc.

      The reason Jac is saying she overheard it is because Jac is not going to give TSIL as the source. Jac never names her sources -it’s always “I overheard” or “a mutual friend”.

      • dp9113
        August 25, 2013 at 7:04 AM

        My thoughts exactly. TSIL has her hand in this one. I always thought that is how she got Tre’s family and friends in her court. I feel she has been sharing everything she has ever heard Tre say with anyone that will listen. Very manipulative and sneaky to say the least. I can picture her now chewing her gum like a cow and saying “you just don’t know how much Teresa hates all of you” Makes me sick to think about it.

    • August 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM

      I do not believe she heard Teresa say that, one of the producers probably told her Teresa said it and TSIL went along with the story that she was the one Teresa said it to.

      • August 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

        That is what I think happened, too. The trouble making producer, Cat R. told Jaq what Tre said and Tsil agreed, or vice versus! I don’t believe a darn thing that comes out of Tsil’s pie hole! Especially if it’s something negative about Tre!

    • August 25, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      Two things came to mind for me.

      One, Jac may not have really wanted to make up with Teresa but she played along until she could sabatoge the relationship again. What Jac got out of the relationship was Teresa being supportive and providing the sympathetic attention Jac craves. Once teresa needed that from Jac, she was no longer an asset and she needed a way to distance herself from her. There is no lie to great for Jac, and no oppurtunity to waste to gain sympathetic attention.

      Two, When things are not going to plan, i.e. everyone is getting back together,TSIL goes right to the source of the mend. Teresa and Jac could not make up.

      I don’t believe Jac was ever a true friend to Teresa. Jac uses people. Teresa never had a little sister to help take care of. What pisses me off the most is Teresa investing so much time being there for Jac and helping TSIL with her house thinking she was loved as someone who adores there big sister, and she was played by both of them.

  15. JUST ME P
    August 25, 2013 at 4:52 AM

    JACKO WAS MOST LIKELY DRUNK AND HEARD VOICES IN HER HEAD

    I THINK JACKO AND CHRIS MANZO GAVE INFORMATION TO THE FEDS OR TO MONICA CHICCONE AND SHE GAVE IT TO THE FEDS….I THINK MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE LAURITAS HAVEN’T BEEN IN MORE TROUBLE OVER THEM STEALING FROM KOMAN FOR THE CURE FUND RAISER AND DRAINING ALL MONEY FROM THE CLOTHING COMPANY

  16. SecretSquirrel
    August 25, 2013 at 6:53 AM

    Regarding a takedown of Gorga and Laurita – remember during/after the Castle Fight when TB said to Juicy “You made me a bum, just like you!”…? Teresa once said that Juicy showed her brother the “business” (robbing banks by pen, not gun by amassing loan money and paying it with the next loan) and Fame has shown TB has done almost the same as Juicy. TB now blames Juicy for showing him the tricks, only TB has managed to keep up with the loans, even if it means stealing/forefiting his parents house.

    One more question. If Teresa, as we saw, cannot type, (remember the scene here she tried to type her blog, one-finger pecking method) how is she going to reproduce W2’s sophisticated enough to fool a bank? Not saying T didn’t sign off of loan app, or know the W2’s were fake, but I do’t see her having the technical skill to successfully duplicate a federal/state document. That had to be Juicy. And Juicy was NOT working alone.He had lawyers, loan officers, and notaries working with him. Theres a network here, and I don’t mean Bravo.

    The Greeks perfected Tragedy in Hubris (fatality in overweaning pride) and Oedipus Rex (fatality in finally getting what one desperately seeks, and seeks to avoid) but Holy crap…The Italians better start writing, cause this is one lesson for the History books. Sad and scary.

    • NCGal
      August 25, 2013 at 8:39 AM

      Yes, I agree with this. Much of Teresa’s involvement seemed to occur prior to her cookbook success. Was she financially savvy then? Probably not – or not like she most likely is now.

      There are wives (and she strikes me as having been one – stressing “been”) who sign what is put in front of them by their husbands, especially when he says “it’s ok, just sign it so we can get the loan….”.

      I wonder about the tax returns that weren’t filed though. Joe seems to be charged with that – not Teresa…I could be wrong though. Could they have been filing separately because of the bankruptcy and her book $$$?

    • Confused
      August 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

      Regarding the W2’s. I don’t necessarily think that they were “fake” I think that the feds are saying that they were fake in that she wasn’t actually employed, but received a paycheck to show earnings.

      If you will recall the accusations of fraud against the Lauritas, the claim is that both of the wives received payment from the companies as employees.

      If the Feds are using this as their angle, then 3/4 of the spouses and family members of small business owners better look out, because it’s done all the time.

      • yup
        August 25, 2013 at 4:51 PM

        agreed. It’s not about photoshopping a document to look like a W2, it’s about filling out a W2 with false information.

    • JerseyG
      August 26, 2013 at 1:16 AM

      (somehow an old “name’ of mine started showing up…anything written by JerseyGirlsRock is me: JerseyG);

      No one made Joe Gorga a bum.

      And stealing a house from his elderly parents is “good business strategy”? On what planet?

      No one makes anyone do anything they don’t want to. So let’s get over that tiny little fact.

      Reproduce a W-2? WTF?

      Are you serious?

      Yeah, those Greeks are so smart and such great “writers” their entire country/economy is in the shitter.

  17. NCGal
    August 25, 2013 at 8:47 AM

    And one more thing…Andy watched Schindler’s List “to relax”. Not even remotely funny. One of the most disturbing movies I have ever seen. I get his point, but not funny at all.

    • August 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM

      The only honest lines ever uttered on the show were said by big Al. “I can’t retire because you guys still need me for financial backing.

      By the way, why is Stumproid still walking around on the show with his spray on hair? Could it be possible that Bravo cut him a break by inserting a talking head where he admits enhancing his hairline to stop all the ridicule on social media? Why don’t they do things like that for other people? grrrr.

      • August 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM

        and right before that hair in a can episode aired, he was in the clubhouse with a “new look”…he shaved his head…… We are smarter than Andy’s “Social Experience”

      • NCGal
        August 25, 2013 at 9:46 AM

        IIRC, I think they did add a talking head for that because he was dressed differently or something….Andy loves his Gorgas and Manzos.

      • tulip
        August 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM

        gessiewtf,

        First of all, I LMAO at Stumproid! Hilarious! I also have thought all along that JoGo was allowed to have a talking head inserted the very next week after that episode aired to save face! I don’t for one minute think that he was not embarrased by that whole thing. Bravo probably left him do a talking head as soon as they were seeing all the comments on the blogs, twitter, etc calling him out on the black stuff.

        And, we all saw that Melissa was able to do the same thing on last week’s episode where her talking head showed her with her new blonde hair color. Miss Andy is so obvious in his bias!

        I also wouldn’t doubt that Bravo offered a nice little “bonus” to the folks who have “proof” of Melissa’s cheating to keep quiet now. Arater, Bulldog, Jan, etc. They all came out guns a blazing with their accusations, then all of a sudden………..crickets. Why????? Were they paid to stay quiet?

    • August 25, 2013 at 9:19 AM

      Exactly…….I’m not even Jewish and that PISSED me off. (Let’s see if this makes it on W.W.’s hot topics…yea right)

    • Confused
      August 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

      Agreed. While I understand what he was saying, there are lines that should never be crossed and this is one of them. It’s just simply shameful.

      • August 25, 2013 at 7:33 PM

        I wonder why Bravo left Greggie’s cancer remark in as well – that was beyond rude and totally insensitive.

        • Confused
          August 25, 2013 at 11:12 PM

          I wondered the same thing. It’s issues that this that irritate me…..not necessarily that they are said (Lord knows I have inserted my mouth numerous times) but Andy makes it his mission to call people out (especially Joe G) regarding inappropriate comments made toward the LGBT community.

  18. Pinky
    August 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    After reading Penny’s blog on FauxReality’s site I just want fakeass ms andy to make the reunion worth watching. He likes sociology so much? Well try telling the Truth and having the losers whose lives you play with to own up to their lies-GORGAS, MANZOS, LAURITAS!!!!! I am so sick of andy playing GOD and smirking as he hurts Tre’s family season after season while he lets the other shadier, MOBTIED losers sit in luxury of denial and lying to his halfass questions. And DEAR GOD please have Bravo, Andy, and the Producers held responsible for their part in all this fraud and smoke/mirros – and how they continuously hurt families yet cover for others. I cannot stand Andy Cohen. Seems to me this scripted bullshit should be labeled honestly and not be called “reality” shows. Isn’t there a union, Sag, something with BALLS to fight this junktv Bravo has gotten by with?? True actors and actresses have to be really pissed! Sorry, just sick of the shady ones always getting a pass.

    • August 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

      @ Pinky says: Let’s do our own test….. Please repost your “Short and to the point” comment on the Bravo Site. Post on each of the players blogs. I dare Bravo to post your well written, “on point” opinion. This says it all!

    • August 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

      I was reading FRE’s twitter page and came across this tweet:

      “18 Aug If @MelissaGorga says @PDKhair is obsessed with her, why ask to film with her & why did @JoeGorga want to use them to set up Tre? #RHONJ”

      It was tweeted first by FRE, I didn’t copy that line, sorry! If this is true then Tsil and Tb seem to be OK with Tsil’s alleged cheating allegation and are using it to stay relevant on the show. They also seem to using that reason to TRY to make Tre look bad, again! I do remember when filming was taking place someone “leaked” info with a pic of Penny, Tsil and Tb meeting at some restaurant. I remember it was “reported” that the Whorgas wanted to know if Tre was a good friend of Penny’s or an acquintance of Tre’s! I think it was reported that Penny was using text messages as proof that her and Tre were BFF’s! When I read Penny’s recent FRE blog Penny did verify that her and Tre are only acquintances! So, whoever leaked that story was lying. I’m wondering if it was an intentional lie, set up by Bravo? Or, was it an “assumption” leaked by Jaq or the Whorgas? Oh, on R.O.LIES they have an article saying that Tre is now going after another housewife who she’s is jealous of, get this, they report that it’s KATHY! What a joke!

      • August 25, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        When the events were happening from December through February 2013, I blogged about the meeting between Penny and the Gorgas, and I blogged about the December 3rd phone call with Bryan’s friend Mike, which has not yet aired and may never air. Teresa thinks she’s been vindicated because, upon her urging, Penny told Melissa at the Milania launch party that she and Teresa are not friends, but after seeing the testimonials that Melissa recently taped (with her new blond hair – Joe Gorga’s testimonials where he’s wearing the white cap and blue polo shirt with white collar also may be recent), and which were added to the last episode and to the next episode, it is obvious that Melissa knows that Penny and Teresa are not strangers.

        Penny Drossos Films Scene with Joe and Melissa Gorga
        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/teresa-giudice-calls-truce-with-melissa-gorga/

        Cheating Rumors About Melissa Gorga Surface at Holiday Posche Fashion Show on December 3, 2013; Bravo May Be Setting Up Teresa Giudice Again in Season 5
        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/melissa-gorga-allegedly-cheated-on-joe-before-and-after-they-were-married/

        Teresa Giudice Takes Phone Call from Melissa Gorga’s Past at Holiday PFS — Caller Claims Melissa Cheated on Joe
        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bravo-will-use-teresa-giudice-in-season-5-to-reveal-melissas-secrets/

        Bryan ‘Bulldog’ Bowen is Not the ‘Mike’ Who Talked on the Phone to Teresa Giudice at the Holiday PFS on December 3, 2012
        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/bryan-bulldog-bowen-has-not-appeared-in-person-or-by-phone-in-season-5-of-rhonj-he-is-not-the-mike-who-talked-on-the-phone-to-teresa-giudice/

        • August 25, 2013 at 2:19 PM

          bastards!

        • August 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM

          Thank-you fame for keeping such good track of filming during S5! I hope you know I wasn’t calling you a liar! I was refering to whoever the inside informant was! They reported that the Penny/Whorga confrontation was about Penny and Tre’s relationship! I’ve noticed whoever had been releasing inside info about certain scene’s filmed have been way off, or were purposely misleading viewer’s/the press! Like the Lake George and Caroline story. It was “reported” that Caroline left the retreat the next day because of the Juicy vs. TB fight, yet it was shown she showed up a day late because of the fight! Now we have the Penny/Tre relationship except I think Bravo maybe behind this story to go along with the same storyline that happened last season. That Tre is the master mind at setting up Tsil to make her look bad!

        • August 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

          Note to Fame…I’m going to need this post when that phone call airs. I’m back on Facebook and imagine there’s going to be some fighting going on when the time comes 😀

  19. yup
    August 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    give me a break–Radar is reporting that Teresa is jealous of Kathy. that’s funny–no one is jealous of Kathy:

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/08/teresa-giudice-targets-kathy-wakile-jealous-hates-her/

    • August 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

      Why do many of the tabloids, online and print (Us Weekly, People, In Touch, Life & Style, RadarOnline), consistently report negative stories about Teresa and not the others. Does NBC own them all? Is it because the two times Melissa was on a cover, the issues didn’t sell as well? Is it because issues sell well if they have covers with scandals about Teresa?

      • GPM
        August 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM

        I was wondering the same thing — and doggone it, Fame, I was going to ask YOU! 🙂

      • kayswhims
        August 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM

        That is mainly about celebrity photos

        “PR Photos is a leading independent photographic press agency. We supply images worldwide to media outlets on a daily basis. PR Photos has extensive experience covering major entertainment, sports, news, fashion, corporate, and feature events. Some of our clients include: People Magazine, Us Weekly, Rolling Stone, Life & Style, In Touch, E! News, Entertainment Tonight & Radar Online.”

        http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lindsay-burkhead/6/682/615

        • kayswhims
          August 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM

          Teresa Giudice is a big name, gossip about her is hot, photos etc. Castmates need to connect with her, bad connection etc. to stay revelent in the media outlets that want to make money just like Bravo wants to make money.

          “The bigger the brand name, the larger the paycheck. Magazines like People, US Weekly, Star, and OK! are well known for shelling out tens of thousands for celebrity snapshots.”

          Read more: http://www.ehow.com/how_5159345_sell-celebrity-photos.html#ixzz2d0wR38Q7

    • kayswhims
      August 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM

      American Media owns Radar Online and the following. I would not take them seriously.

      “after its primary backer, billionaire Ron Burkle, who owned a substantial interest in Star and National Enquirer publisher American Media, withdrew. RadarOnline.com’s founding staff was fired and replaced by reporters from the Enquirer and Star.”

      Star
      OK! (US)
      National Enquirer
      Globe
      Country Weekly
      Radar Online
      National Examiner
      Sun
      Soap Opera Digest
      Shape
      Fit Pregnancy
      Men’s Fitness
      Muscle & Fitness
      Flex

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_Online

    • August 25, 2013 at 7:13 PM

      bitch, please.

    • August 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

      Kathy who??
      I always got a vibe that Kathy has been jealous and hateful to Teresa because in that family Teresa is the natural “it” girl of the female cousins. Kathy is the oldest girl and along comes this spitfire to take away the attention Kathy feels she deserves. That story about Teresa being pissed for not being in Kathy’s wedding – LMAO, as if…

      • yup
        August 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

        and if Kathy’s copying Teresa by putting out a line of food and cookbooks, isn’t she obviously the one jealous of Teresa? Since when is the person being copied considered the jealous one?

  20. kayswhims
    August 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    page 17 of this petition has a checkmark next to owing taxes to the government. I do not understand the fraud if they had this in their bankruptcy petition. It is not hidden that they owed money for taxes. Were they paying on tthe taxes that they owed?
    http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/amendments-to-bankruptcy-petition-in-re-54627/

  21. kayswhims
    August 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    NBC Universal is behind the allegations?

    “NBC Universal Allegations against them include attempted mail and bankruptcy fraud and the concealment of true assets from the IRS and several banks”
    http://article.wn.com/view/2013/07/30/Teresa_and_Joe_Giudice_each_released_on_500000_bond/#/related_news

    • kayswhims
      August 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

      nevermind that is the way it looks in the sentence..ugh the importance of grammar and my comprehension skills lol

  22. mktgdrivethru
    August 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Took a break for a few days from my FW friends and absence makes the heart grow fonder.

    First, my deepest condolences to you Jeanne and your family on the loss of your beloved mother. I am praying for your family to help get through this trying time.

    I was with my sister for a few days and she saw my Milania hair stuff and asked me if it was from the RHONJ — she just saw the episode of the launch. We then got into a discussion about them and I had to school her on what was really going on — she LOVES Kathy and thinks that TB is sweet. (She didn’t care much for TSIL, so, points there.) I led her to this site and explained the lies and how editing by Bravo manipulated the truth. She was shocked. Now, I’ve stopped watching the episodes since least season and get my info now from here and social media, so now I see how most of the viewing public as a completely different perception of our favorite HWs. My sister is a PhD and this was her guilty pleasure — I feel kind of bad ruining it for her 😉

    • August 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

      I have learned that talking RHONJ with family and friends is by WORSE that talking politics or religion.

      • Debbie J
        August 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

        Especially if your having a conversation with your daughter and say something bad about Melissa holy hell breaks out. I know this one from experience and my daughter is a school teacher.

      • corky21
        August 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        Yup. It’s kind of funny though.

      • August 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM

        LOL, Jules…same here!

  23. August 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Just got home from a few days in the wet and cold mountains in Northern AZ.

    Evidently, Bravo invited all of the NJ housewives to the VMA’s (per a tweet from Tre-Tre is staying home). TSIL tweets to imply her invite was “special” and tied it into her new single coming out on Monday (please note in the cover pic for the single she’s smelling her pits again — just not at attractive look). Lysa tweeted how great it was the TSIL is envisioning her lifelong being invited to the VMA’s. PS — Big Ang is going too.

    Her head is overinflated!

    • August 25, 2013 at 7:07 PM

      Thanks for that info MzJules! I thought her manager, Johnny Wright (I think) begged to get her a ticket! So, Tsil really thinks being invited to the same event her co-worker’s are invited to makes her better than everyone else? That girl is demented! I wonder how “special” her ticket is? Does it have “SPECIAL TICKET” on it, or something? That’s too funny that she’s lying, I mean saying, her new song being released tomorrow is “tied” into the VMA’s! More than likely she picked that date so she could say that exact phrase and feel like she finally made it!!! I wonder how far her songs made it on the Billboard Music Charts? If they ever made it on the BMC?

      • August 25, 2013 at 7:17 PM

        She “implied” it about the new song, did not say it … sorry, should have cut n pasted the tweets.

        • August 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM

          Thanks Jules for the correction, you did say she “imply” and I didn’t catch it! Sorry.

    • kayswhims
      August 25, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      i found out what all the fuss is about wanting to smell armpits lol. Joey loves to smell her pits. I think she does too lol. Robert Pattinson loved to lick Kristen’s armspits. There is a pic of one of TB’s friend with his head in TB’s armpit. “Many men find the pungent smell of a woman’s armpit intoxicatingly sensual”
      http://gianjubela.wordpress.com/watchamacallits-from-steel-butterflies/the-mystery-of-the-female-armpit/

  24. Jeannie5233
    August 25, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    I just signed on here and I am blown away by all the wonderful and heartelt messages from you. Oh my!!! Thank you so much for the notes of love and support and thank you for the beautiful garden you have created to honor my mother. She loved to garden and had a wonderful green thumb like her mother. I, unfortunately, did not inherit that skill. She will be laid to rest on Wednesday. I will take this virtual garden with me and lay it at her feet.

    Tears are streaming right now – I am sorry. I know this is a blog to discuss the RHONJ but I have so many emotions right at the brim right now and one of them is the feeling of acceptance and love from you all. I really do feel the arms of so many angels (all of you) around me comforting me. Thank you.

    • Debbie J
      August 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM

      Jeannie,

      I cannot imagine life without my mom, I feel so sad for you. You are such a wonderful person and daughter to have taken such good care of your mom.

      I pray that you and your family make it through this difficult time.

    • August 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

      ((((Jeannie)))). You have nothing to be sorry for. If you feel like posting your feelings right now I know I’ll listen and try to console you as best I could over the computer. I did think of you when I woke up and I’ll think of you when I go to bed. Prayer’s are coming from Oklahoma to help you heal your broken heart. I’ll ask God to take you in his arms and comfort you while your grieving. I know he’s comforting you right now. ((((Jeannie)))).

    • Laram
      August 25, 2013 at 9:47 PM

      Oh, Jeannie, this is the first I’ve heard and read. God bless you, and your family during this period of grief and always, until you are with her again. You always seemed like a daughter any mother could ask for, espscially in her illness. Big hugs from me, and feel them from your mom as she’s with you, as is God! XOOOO

    • kayswhims
      August 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      Jeannie, before I started posting here, I posted this artwork on my niece’s facebook page. She loved it. I thought of your mom and her dancing shoes and the artwork looks like angels are there and rays of light going around everyone and through them at the same time, like a big bear hug from God.

      http://www.piccadillys.com/Yankell/Enlarged/tango-in-the-river-of-light.html

  25. qb
    August 25, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Al feeling Caroline up!! Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

  26. Monique
    August 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Okay–So I believe Kathy and Rich are gonna divorce soon. Rich is just too unbearable. He’s so gross! Looking at Melissa’s cameltoe and farting. Blah!

    Melissa says she doesn’t believe in a Medium but wasn’t it her first season or, second where a medium told her that her father told Melissa to follow her dreams in singing? And just burst into tears and said that sounds like my father? Now she doesn’t believe in the Medium because the Medium is favoring Teresa when it comes to their feud.

    Once again—Melissa is full of poo!

    • Monique
      August 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM

      P.S. Someone PLEASE tell Richie to STOP poppin’ his collars w/ his Polo shirts. No one no longer does that.

      Also–Melissa is soooo sick but she’s tanning?! HAHA!!

      • August 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

        Richie just needs to cease to exist on this show. He is just all around disgusting. Not joking…I cannot find even one redeemable quality in him. Not one. Zero, zilch, none!!!! Not in looks, style, personality, morals, ethics…nothing.

  27. tam
    August 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Melissa is one sick cookie. On tonight’s episode she was saying how sick she was so she couldn’t join the others. my feeling is she just wanted her husband away from her. Then she goes I was so sick I could not even swallow, yet they show her in the sun, in a swim suit drinking a glass of water. The bitch has just said I couldn’t swallow I was in so much pain…God she lies about everything put people constantly go after Teresa

    • August 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM

      With make-up on …. puhleze.

    • bobby brooks
      August 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

      I don’t trust the editing on this show, who knows when that scene of Melissa outside in the bathing suit was filmed. It could have been filmed at any point in the trip. I do believe Melissa was sick, though, because she looked terrible in that scene where she is taking her medicine, she almost looked green.

      • embee
        August 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM

        Green like Elphaba in Wicked? 😀

        • bobby brooks
          August 26, 2013 at 1:34 PM

          LOL, yes actually! I was glad that she didn’t go on the hike, whatever the reason, because it was seemed like they had a nice time without her. Can you imagine if she’d gone?

  28. qb
    August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    You see how Jac turn that comment by Teresa into something ugly? She is crazy!!

  29. Saddle_River_NJ
    August 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    I giggled when the TB said he would “get all his wife’s diseases”. If he only knew used his slop bucket of a wife was…..

    • Debbie J
      August 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      lmao!!!!!!!!!!

    • August 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM

      Slop bucket 😀

  30. Monique
    August 25, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    So what do you guys think by the karma comment? I think Teresa meant no harm in it!

    • Debbie J
      August 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

      I don’t think she meant anything by it if Jac would have asked her I think Teresa would have immediately apologize and felt bad. I don’t believe Teresa would say anything bad about Nick.

    • Confused
      August 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM

      I guess that they never learn do they. Jacq should have asked her what she meant by and said that it hurt her feelings. I didn’t think it had anything to do with Nick. I took it to mean (like I teach my son) that sometimes the consequences of our actions affect other people. Lesson learned growing up with an alcoholic father.

      • August 25, 2013 at 11:16 PM

        Perfectly said, Confused, that’s the way I took it, too. Jaq should have spoken up and asked Tre to clarify her statement besides running to Chris! I see it as her way of having a storyline for the next couple of episode’s. Once again, Jaq’s using her adorable, innocent son to stay relevant!

      • August 26, 2013 at 8:32 AM

        Jac tweeted last night that she did ask Tre about it twice, but it wasn’t shown. Then followed it by “to be continued”. No telling how twisted that will get…

    • corky21
      August 25, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      No, she said, “I try not to do bad things, b/c when Karma comes back, if it doesn’t get me, it will get my kids”. She didn’t say to Jax, Karma will get your kids. As usual, Jax makes it out wrong. However, Jax said she missed Tre when they were talking, but Tre didn’t say she missed Jax, and I think that may have hurt.

      • Silvana
        August 26, 2013 at 12:37 AM

        I haven’t seen the episode yet as we are a week behind here in Oz but maybe jac feels guilt for nicks autism like it was something she did to make him that way and that’s why she took Teresa’s comment the wrong way.

        • August 27, 2013 at 11:23 PM

          That could very well be true… Still maybe shouldn’t have brought that up while cameras were running and discussed it privately. Teresa obviously didn’t mean anything by it.

    • Monique
      August 26, 2013 at 12:03 AM

      I took it as the same way as Confused took it. I don’t think Teresa threw a dig at Jacqueline definitely since that entire setting was a positive mood/outlook. Jacqueline could easily asked but she took that and ran to Chris to start more un-needed drama. Give Teresa a break, my God!

    • elle
      August 26, 2013 at 12:19 AM

      I think Teresa can’t win for losing. Regardless of what she does or says, one or more of the crew will find fault with it.

  31. RedVelvetCake
    August 25, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    TSIL said ewww no, when the TB asked her if she wanted Tarzan. Not good to show that scene, if she wants her book to make the New York Times best seller list.Her and the midget are fame whoring at the VMA awards, like she is up for a nomination.

    • August 26, 2013 at 12:02 AM

      Tb seemed to have no sympathy for his sick wife he brags about treating like a “queen”! He probably knew she was lying. I noticed that when Tsil is guilty of doing something crappy to someone she avoids that person. Like, when Papa Gorga was in the hospital it took her 4 days to go visit him! I remember she said she was sick then and her throat felt like she swallowed razor’s! Yet, she could go work out at a gym? This time she can put on a swimming suit, makeup and lay out in the hot, dry heat in Arizona! She’s guilty of something! That’s just my take on Tsil’s anti-social behavior! That or she doesn’t want to see her new BFF, Jaq, her only friend, hanging out with Tre again! She might be afraid that Jaq’s going to tell Tre all the crap Tsil said about her behind her back? If Tsil doesn’t have enough saliva to swallow she’s dehydrated, maybe she has a whooper of a hangover? Who knows? Just shut up with the, “I’ve never been in so much pain before in my life!”! Tb reminding her that she had three babies was pretty funny!

      OMGosh, I can’t believe they showed the scene with Richie bringing up Tsil’s camel toe! I was shocked and disgusted that Richie would say something so embarrassing with the camera’s rolling! Even if that was Tsil, the Queen of Camel Toe’s, it was still a little x-rated, if you ask me. Yes, I’m kind of a prude about things like that, so I might be exaggerating!

      • yup
        August 26, 2013 at 2:30 AM

        Richie’s a pig. why does Kathy put up with this bs? I’d be so embarrassed if I were his kids. the camel toe thing was so tasteless and juvenile. Way to call attention to the fact that you stare at your friend’s wife’s crotch in front of all those people including your WIFE. I’m sure Melissa loves the attention but it’s beyond disrespectful to Kathy. He’s so vile. I’m no fan of Kathy’s but she’s not trashy like her husband so I don’t know how she can be with him. Obviously she can do a thousand times better.

        • August 26, 2013 at 5:08 AM

          You would think Tsil would have felt the “toe” and adjusted herself? Or, maybe she wanted Richie, and everyone else, to see it because she does like that type attention? Yeah, Richie saying that in front of EVERYONE, his wife and Tb, was pretty crass and crude! I could only imagine how that sick freak is when the camera’s aren’t rolling! And Richie wonder’s why Kathy is “cold” toward him at night?

  32. Mehonogo
    August 25, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    I noticed TB hair was gone in ball cap th and Kathy’s hair was lighter in her talking head.

  33. IamNobodysHW
    August 25, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    What Tre said about KARMA , she said come back “TO MY DAUGHTERS”. Not “KIDS” like Jac said. Jac is just trying to start trouble.

    • August 26, 2013 at 9:23 AM

      …as always! I thought she JUST!!!! said she was letting go of overacting to drama!!!!
      That didn’t last long-she is really crazy!

    • August 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM

      I agree & I believe what Tre said was true. How many children have been hurt because of the parents bad decision & are looked upon different because of those parents. Tre was not talking about Nicholas. Jacqueline has to have something to show why Teresa is evil. It the whole after Teresa made up with me I overheard a conversation later that night that Teresa said she hated me drama again.

  34. elle
    August 26, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    How about that scene with the psychic healer (medium? whatever…) supposedly giving a message from Kathy’s and Rosie’s father. Was the healer unaware that two sisters were in her audience? That message appeared to be for one person only. When Rosie, Kathy and Teresa were sitting and talking about it later I thought for a moment that Rosie was going to have another of her outbursts when Kathy said something about the message being something special for her.

  35. Goozy Girl
    August 26, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    My thoughts and prayers are with you Jeannie.

  36. Silvana
    August 26, 2013 at 8:16 AM

    Totally off topic here but I had to share with people that would not think I was crazy. I had the weirdest dream last night I was with Teresa at her house and her brother in law Pete was there and then Danielle staub knocked on the door and I answered it!!! Wonder what that means??

    • August 26, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      HA! It means we are thinking about this show too much! As I hang my head in shame-I too have had a dream about this crazy show–in mine I was shopping with Caroline and she was telling me what to buy-she said if I didn’t OBEY her she would have to tell Andy!! So had to take a break from all things New Jersey Housewives after that 🙂

      • kayswhims
        August 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM

        shopping with Caroline ya that was a nightmare. lol

    • Monique
      August 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

      I had a dream on Friday that I kissed Joe Gorga!!!! Woke up in a sweat (no lie.) WORST DREAM EVER!!!!

      • August 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

        Ewwww…grossssss!!!! Did you happen to check out Melissa’s Twitter from last night? I think it was Us Weekly that posted a video of them on the red carpet at the VMAs. He really thinks he’s something else. Duck lip posing and all…

        • Monique
          August 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM

          I can’t believe they got invited to the VMA’s! I wonder if Joe flirted w/ One Direction.

          • August 27, 2013 at 11:34 PM

            Sounds like everyone and their brother was invited though. Joey probably couldn’t get close enough to One Direction or I’m sure he would have. I have a friend that was in the city the day or two before the VMAs and I guess there was a huge crowd of girls BAWLING in anticipation of One Direction (not sure if they were making an appearance somewhere or what)…wonder if Joey was in that crowd 😀

            Speaking of VMAs…getting ready to go off topic! Wow, Miley. I get that she is trying to change her Disney image (mission accomplished!!!), but my goodness!! I’m the furthest thing from a prude, but that was just pure trash (AND horrible singing on top of that!). She is too pretty of a girl to act that way and I actually like some of her music. This was one of my favorite articles about that whole mess: http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/08/what-does-miley-cyrus-want-us-to-say-so-that-she-knocks-it-off-already I liked the one that said “You have a vagina. There it is.” Or something like that.

            Justin Timberlake…amazing! Not sure why they had to show Taylor Swift 500 times during his performance though. Not a fan of her…

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        August 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM

        I hope you had a dream on Saturday night where you got a vaccination from everything he is probably carrying…

        • Monique
          August 26, 2013 at 3:35 PM

          LMAOOOO! Unfortunately no! I’m afraid I’ll have another dream of my doctor telling me I got herpes from Joe Gorga.

          • August 27, 2013 at 11:35 PM

            Saddle River…good one!

            Yes, he probably gave you the gift that keeps on giving!

      • kayswhims
        August 26, 2013 at 3:26 PM

        Ugh now that is a night terror

    • kayswhims
      August 26, 2013 at 3:20 PM

      maybe you want Danielle to come back into teresa’s life and clear this whole thing up. Maybe you think Pete knows something he is not saying yet. Did he talk in your dream?

  37. corky21
    August 26, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    I’m confused about last night’s show. When they were leaving for Arizona, they showed mum’s in front of the homes. That is a fall thing. There was also snow in last week’s, episode, Melissa outside annoyed at snow being thrown, and if I remember correctly, it snowed here just once around Feb. Also, they went to Lake George a few weeks ago and there was snow, and that was in February when they went. So is it just that they spliced some video of cars leaving at another time?

    • August 26, 2013 at 9:16 AM

      I think they had snow in Oct and I know they did around the first of Nov.2012

      • corky21
        August 26, 2013 at 3:44 PM

        Maybe, but why would they have fall mums, in front of the house, it’s it’s Feb/march when they are going to Arizona? THey must splice and dice this whole show

  38. NCGal
    August 26, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    I didn’t even watch last night’s show, and I used to love this show. But the Season 1 marathon made me realize how much the Gorgas and Wakiles have ruined it. I was watching Duck Dynasty (for the first time) and when 8pm came around – I asked myself do I really want to see Pig Richie, SloJoe, Perpetual Victim Melissa, Insufferable Caroline and Wacky Jac?

    I realized that the only family I find entertaining are the Guidices, and I can’t stomach the others. I stayed with DD which I thoroughly enjoyed. When the RHONJ repeat came on at 10, I went to bed.

    I did change over during a DD commercial to a blubbering Richie, and went right back to the commercial and never went back.

    So…thanks to Bravo for making RHONJ so unwatchable that you’ve enabled me to find another show in the same time slot that I really like.

    • mare
      August 26, 2013 at 10:07 AM

      You sound just like me. I used to love the show the first two seasons. It gave me joy. Made me laugh. I watch Duck Dynasty. I change channels during commercials (always do). Check in on Housewives. See Melissa Kathy etc. Change the channel back. The only time I stay with it is when Tre and family are being shown. Then I change it again.
      Actually started watching DD as the antihousewives.

    • Have2Say
      August 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM

      I’m totally with you. I love watching DD… that’s the interaction we should be viewing between family members. Not the RHONJ spliced, two faced, back stabbing garbage we’re being fed by Bravo. I watched the first 2 shows this season and since then have only seen bits and pieces and go onto blogs to read a summary. Now that the trial/charges issue has been handed to the Guidices I am totally turned off this show. I know Teresa will probably not be back next season as she is not guaranteed to be available.

      I can totally see Bravo back in the editing room to change up the season finale to exit out the Guidices. When that happens only then will Melissa and Jacqueline have handed to then what should have been on a silver platter 2 seasons ago….. Karma back at them for their vile behavior.

    • August 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM

      I am perhaps the nosiest person alive and even I am tiring of all of this. Not quite to the point where I won’t watch the rest of this season, but am seriously considering being done after the season is over. If the show isn’t interesting enough without Bravo having to slice, dice, insert, delete, Frankenbyte, etc. then get rid of it.

  39. Miami53
    August 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    I’ve been lurking for the past 18 months. I came on to send my condolences to Jeannie in the loss of her beautiful mother in another post She is what every mother would want to have as a daughter. You always felt the love she had for her mother in her posts. My thoughts and prayers are with her.

    OT. I’ve watched every episode of The Real Housewives Of New Jersey since Season 1 and Teresa was always my favorite. Her bubbly personality and her daughters were an enjoyment to watch.

    I never liked TSIL. Sometimes after watching the show, I would wonder if these people were actors and actresses…who does this to family. Were we taken for fools in watching this all play out!

    I was down the shore when I read the news about her and Joe’s troubles. I just couldn’t believe it. I feel differently about the show now…we can laugh and get mad at times. But in reality, this is really happening to her precious daughters. I can’t imagine as a mother I might not be there to raise them. I pray everything works out okay.

    To Fame…Thank you for this site!! I look forward to new articles every day. You’ve done a great job!!

    • Confused
      August 26, 2013 at 1:46 PM

      Welcome Miami53

      • Miami53
        August 26, 2013 at 6:13 PM

        Thank you…many times I wanted to post my concerns…especially all this craziness with family and friends. When I read about their troubles, I felt like I got hit in the stomach…this is serious stuff. The show will never be the same!!!

    • August 26, 2013 at 5:48 PM

      Miami, good post! I agree with you on how the show changed after the Giudice’s were charged with federal crimes. At first, I didn’t think I could get back into the show. Then the horrible, Tsil, tweeted/commented/blogged? about her and Tb might be getting their own show! I knew that wasn’t right and to me was very telling about her outburst after her SIL/BIL were charged with crimes that might land them in prison for years! That was when I knew I had to stick by Tre’s show and make sure that witch doesn’t profit from Tre anymore than she has! I’m only one person, with one voice and can’t do much harm to anyone but I think the Whorgas are dispicable people who are piggy backing on Tre’s success. I really think Tsil thought with Tre facing some heavy charges, Tre’s fan’s would turn on her and side with Tsil? The girl is delusional! I do feel sad for Tre’s girls! When you watch all of them with their mother it’s genuine love, there, and if they lose their parents it’ll hurt their little hearts so bad.

  40. lalala
    August 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Did anyone notice the blatant edit to Teresa last night while she was talking to Kathy about Jan/Penny? They were going back forth to each of their faces while they talked and then they cut away from T’s face and her voice was obviously dubbed in. I can’t remember what she was saying – I’m going to have to watch again. Did anyone else notice and remember what question she was answering?

    • Anonymous
      August 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

      does anybody know how to get in touch with aol.com ?mine is down

      • August 26, 2013 at 3:16 PM

        I used google (www.google.com) to search for “AOL customer service” and got this:

        1 (800) 827-6364 (Existing customers)
        AOL, Customer service

        If that doesn’t work, trying googling other similar search terms and you may find other support numbers.

  41. May 23, 2014 at 9:52 PM

    Is Bravo Putting An End To Dull Storylines And Housewives Hawking Products With New Contracts?
    By Mary, Reality Tea
    May 23rd, 2014

    It seems that Bravo is done dragging dead weight all season – and they’ve learned a little lesson over Aviva Drescher’s hiatus and NeNe Leakes’ phoning it in. Don’t bring the drama all season long, get dropped mid-season. And it’s all completely legal!

    In order to boost sagging ratings and keep viewers invested, NaughtyButNiceRob reports that Bravo has renegotiated the HW contracts to include a shocking new clause!

    “Now ladies are being offered only 8 week contracts. If they don’t deliver the drama in the first few weeks of taping they will be dropped,” a Bravo insider says. Bravo has decided to do this to cover their asses storylines.

    The insider says in the past cast members have promised big storylines and life changes, such as getting married or having a baby, only to back out once filming begins.

    Bravo is also tired of promoting dull business ventures and endless Housewives products when they are supposed to be promoting lifestyles of fabulous women! And they are putting an end to dull seasons of the Housewives franchise with the new contracts.

    “Bravo has got super smart. They wont be followed by false promises anymore. If the ladies don’t deliver the drama fast, they will be cut,” a cast member reveals.

    Sounds like a good idea to me – I am beyond sick of the Bravo Home Shopping Network. If your real life isn’t interesting enough for reality TV, then pick a different line of work!

    http://www.realitytea.com/2014/05/23/is-bravo-putting-an-end-to-dull-storylines-and-housewives-hawking-products-with-new-contracts/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-bravo-putting-an-end-to-dull-storylines-and-housewives-hawking-products-with-new-contracts

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