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Joe Gorga Started the Fight, Melissa Fully Participated, and the Gorgas Called the Giudices 15 Names in a Five-Minute Clip of the Altercation

July 20, 2013

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“I made a promise to her father that I wouldn’t beat the shit out of him. He’s gotta stop with the shit!” – Juicy talking to Rosie on the terrace just before Teresa comes outside to tell him that she wants to leave because her brother is calling her scum

When Poison recovered from being tossed into the wall and proceeded to latch onto Juicy’s testicles, Melissa didn’t try to break up the fight, like she said, or help pull the Joes apart, like she accused Teresa of not doing, she joined right in – scratching and slapping Juicy’s face and head, pulling his hair, pinching his nose, and thrusting her thumbs into his eyes – fully participating in the brawl (just like at the Christening in season 3, when she was kicking into the crowd).

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Before Melissa starting getting her licks in, she was hysterical and screaming at Teresa to help her brother because she knew that “black shit” from Poison’s spray-on hair was going to be smeared onto everyone, and she feared they would be the laughing stock of the show.

The following is a partial transcript of the scene after the fight, when Melissa charges at Teresa and calls her a “disgusting pig”:

Kathy: He didn’t do anything! He was trying to help.

Teresa: Yeah, whatever! He called me scum! He wants to call his sister names?! (to Juicy) Let’s go!

Melissa (hysterical and screaming, running toward Teresa – Rosie blocks her from charging Teresa): You stood there!!! They were fighting and you let them fight!!! You disgusting pig!!

Teresa: Stop.

Melissa still screaming: They were fighting and you wouldn’t help your brother!! You’re disgusting!!!

Teresa: Let’s go Joe.

Melissa (pointing her finger and still screaming at Teresa): You’re a disgusting pig!

Melissa TH: I looked at Teresa a one point. Like, all bets are off. Our husbands are on top of each other. Help me out here. Help me pull them apart. And she walked out of the room! I just never want to look at these people again for the rest of my life.

Juicy: That bitch was scratching my face!

Teresa: I know. I know. What am I going to do?

Teresa (as they are walking toward their room): He wants to call his sister scum?! Let’s go.

Melissa (still in the conference room, taking a last swig from her glass of wine): Let’s go! This fucking black shoe polish all over.

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At the 2:00 mark in the video (screen shots above) Poison pushes Melissa away from him, and at the 3:37 mark he pushes her away again before slamming something to the ground, just like at the Christening brawl in season 3, when Poison pushed Melissa out of his way as he lunged for Juicy.

A source told FW that Joe Gorga will only start a fight if there is a crowd around because he knows in a one-on-one, with nobody around to break it up and protect him, he will get his ass kicked (he was the same way back in high school, according to the source). Melissa must know this too, since both at the retreat and at the Christening she involved herself in the brawl (hitting Juicy at the retreat and kicking into the crowd at the Christening) – and remember that Joe Gorga shoved her out of the way to lunge at Juicy at the Christening, which he would have done to her at the retreat if she had stood in his path.

The following are screen shots of the fight (see the last blog or click here for the video).

PART 1 (screen shots in order from top to bottom, column 1 then column 2)

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PART 2 (screen shots in order from top to bottom, column 1 then column 2)

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PART 3 (screen shots in order from top to bottom, column 1 then column 2)

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PART 4 (screen shots in order from top to bottom, column 1 then column 2)

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By Isolde
July 18, 2013

Melissa and Joe Gorga claim to be the victims, and they say that they don’t trash talk or do anything wrong, but in the video of just over five minutes, I counted the insults and who said them.

It starts with Melissa calling Teresa “poison”, and then Joe Gorga proceeds to calling his sister “scum”, three times after that. Teresa walks out and Joe Gorga tells the team builder that Teresa is “his enemy”. Joe Giudice tells Gorga to apologize, and Gorga immediately charges him, starting the fight. Melissa says during the melee, that Gorga didn’t do anything, he was trying to help, meanwhile hitting Joe Giudice, scratching his face and pulling his hair.

After the two are pulled apart (after Teresa brings in security), Gorga calls Giudice a mother f*cker, and tells him he will beat the f*ck out of him. Giudice tells him to come on, and he’ll take one shot and Gorga will go down, and tells him to come on and suck it, as he was biting his balls. Melissa attacks Teresa verbally, calling her disgusting and a disgusting pig three times because Teresa went to get help instead of helping her brother.

If four people were trying to pull them apart and couldn’t, Teresa did the right thing in getting help because then they were separated.

Melissa continues to say that Joe Gorga didn’t do anything (except insult his sister and charge Joe Giudice). Gorga tells Juicy that he made him become a “bum” like him. Teresa pleads with her husband and physically pulls him out of the room. As they leave, Juicy tells Teresa that the “bitch” (Melissa) was scratching his face. Teresa says that she wanted to punch f*cking Melissa in the face (so did I) for expecting her to break up the fight.

Downstairs, Gorga continues to call the Giudices “f*cking scumbags, trash; Melissa calls them disgusting animals and says Teresa did like the “devil” would do. Rich Wakile tells Gorga, don’t worry, “you got him”, “you got him”…hilarious if that is what he thinks.

My point is this: for people who never do anything to start anything or trash talk and would like to place all the blame on the Giudices, I counted 15 names that the Gorgas called Joe and Teresa in this five minute tape, and charging Joe Giudice, thus starting the altercation.

In the same tape, Joe Giudice called Melissa a bitch one time, and Teresa said “f*cking Melissa” one time (although Teresa did tell Melissa to shut up 2-3 times when she was blaming Teresa for not breaking them up, which anyone would have done and then some).

The tape clearly shows who the disgusting animals and disgusting pigs are. When Melissa said “now we are white trash”, truer words were never spoken. There is no question who is to blame and who is truly the villains–the tape showed it all.

By Jeannie5233
July 18, 2013

It interesting how these two couples reacted to this fight. Someone else mentioned it in their comment too. Here are just some examples:

Teresa runs for help. Melissa full-on participates and joins in.

Teresa calms down Joe after the two are pulled apart down by saying, “C’mon! For your kids, for your kids,” and tries to usher him from the room. Joey continues to antagonize Joe from a safe distance across the room, as Melissa charges at Teresa (Rosie blocks her), calling her a “disgusting pig” for not “helping her brother.”

Joe calms down. Joey continues shouting, even after Joe leaves.

In their rooms, Joe is calm and just listens to Teresa when she starts venting about wanting to punch Melissa. In their room, Melissa continues to feed Joey’s rage – comparing Teresa to Saddam Hussein.

Just exactly who is the antagonists here? A rhetorical question if there ever was one.

By Jersey Obsessed
July 18, 2013

I am so sick of the hypocrisy from Melissa, Joe and everyone else. Melissa had every right to call her hubby at the fashion show but Teresa can’t tell her hubby he called me scum, let’s go home and attempt to stop her hubby from even say anything? If I remember correctly, when Joe showed up at the fashion show, Melissa was egging him on to fight. Teresa didn’t have a friend in that room BUT her hubby, who ELSE was she supposed to tell?

Joe Gorga attacked Giudice and Teresa goes to get security because she knows (1) You never EVER break up a fight among men, and (2) No one but security was going to be able to break those two apart.

Melissa is jumping Giudice, getting her licks in NOT pulling them apart. But Teresa and Joe are the pigs?? I’m sure all this footage is going to help their case against Johnny the Greek! Lol

Apparently blaming everyone else is a family trait. First Gorga said Teresa was the reason he and Giudice didn’t get along – it wasn’t Juicy it was Teresa and he was buddy buddy with him like two years ago, saying he was like a big brother…then in the interview on this episode he said he has 10 years of built up hatred for Juicy and he is the reason there is a wedge between him and his parents. Which is it??? Maybe your parents don’t like you and your wife because you are disrespectful sneaky snakes in the grass! SMH

By lemonmarabou
July 18, 2013


Watch this episode closely, play it again and again and please bo so kind to understand that the one who charged was Joe Gorga. Please be so kind to understand that the second aggressor was Melissa Gorga who was scratching and attacking Joe Giudice instead of moving Joe Gorga away like you were trying to do. And after that Melissa Gorga was the one who wanted to physically attack Teresa, and you dear Rosie were between the two of them trying to stop Melissa (photo above).

Rosie be fair and remember that because these are the facts and these are the people you’re dealing with. Now you know what happened. Everyone knows.

By gessiewtf
July 18, 2013

Yes, Melissa, because everybody decided to put black shoe polish on their sneakers before their fight. Funny thing, though, I didn’t see any kicks to your armpit, Juicy’s arms, balls, head. So the shoe polish had to be up high. You dummy. Oh, and your husband’s shoes were white… If Andy doesn’t ask him why he went straight for the gonads, and why everybody was covered in spray on hair, I will never watch Bravo again.

P.S. Gessiewtf was on a roll, so please search her comments in the last blog – they are hilarious!

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“The scene that sums up Poor Melissa the most is her taking one last slug of wine before going to deal with her ‘husband.’ I wonder if it helps her cope with the nightmare she has created for herself?” – hummusbreath, July 18, 2013, FameWhorgas

  1. Pippi
    July 20, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    How ghetto is TSIL and SloJo. These screen shots get my ire up. Spin it however she can in her confessionals, it’s all right there and it’s as plain as the bad nose job on her horsey face!

    • Alley
      July 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

      She talks like a ghetto slut. I thought she was a teacher 4 god sakes! everyone on famewhorgas knew about Joe and his black shoe polish but right after their fight, joey gorga and Melissa lied and pretended like they had no idea what it was and joey gorga admitted in his confessional That he put “black hairspray” on his hair but fucken lied on camera right after the fight. These two liars deserve eachother.

  2. Dixie
    July 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    It is obvious that Kathy, Richie and Rosie were trying to get the two men apart, but Melissa was getting her hits in. Yes, sweetie, you have hit rock bottom, and the whole world is seeing it.

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      dixie i have a feeling missy has yet to hit rock bottom…as crazy as that sounds, she can and probably will get lower…id almost bank on it!!!

      • Kimmers
        July 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

        @charok, I agree just when we think it can get any worse Melwhore will out do herself. And that’s saying something. This woman knows no bounds to her conniving, evil ways.

        • charok
          July 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM

          i agree 110% kimmers!!! she will out do herself in the backstabbing, conniving evilness that is missy!

    • July 20, 2013 at 9:53 PM

      Oh that lying piece of fat crap !Their father didn’t tell that idiot to beat his son up .He will say anything on camera if he thinks it’s going to make him look tuff !!He speaks just Like Tre ,ah dah dah dah .Frigging airheads!! Melissa & Joe make those 2 fools look like beggers ,oh wait, they R .
      ba ha ha ha U bet she was getting her hits in ,I just wish I was there because oh fathead would have had a big ole headache that nite !!He runs @ on his wife ,he’s a drunk ,he wants his in law’s money & he is a bum!!!

      • Anonymous
        July 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM

        Why do you post such drivel!!! I just cannot wrap my head around it. You come on this site why? To stir up trouble like the whorgas?!! You must be suffering from delusions like them. Sad to see a person so snowed by lies.

    • Anonymous
      July 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

      I am gonna have a damn heart attack watching that little twit lie through her teeth, and act like she is so damn innocent…I was happy to see people who get it!!! If anyone is “EVIL” it is surely Melissa!!! Her husband is “NOT” worth any of Teresa’s attention! He really is the biggest idiot for listening to his nasty wife whispering little comments about her Fabalini drinks and such… That was really cunning and nasty!!!! WAKE UP JOE!!

  3. Confused
    July 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Don’t forget about her slapping Juicy in the face. She knew full well that she wouldn’t be able to stop the fight. She’s ghetto trash. Notice that she was wearing hoop earrings. Back in the day (60-70’s) when they were popular, you were always very careful while wearing them. Even when the boys were play fighting, we were always very careful so our ear lobes didn’t get ripped.

    Secondly, she had the presence of mind to hurry and get her baby ball muncher’s hat and was able to pull her victim card too easily. Too convenient for me. She knew full well that there would be a fight. Her husband has bulked up significantly since they first appeared. His anger (more like rage) would scare me to death. If she believes that he would never hurt her physically, she’s got another thing coming.

    They can claim that Tre and Juicy are arrogant, mean, cruel, etc, but there is real anger and rage issues on their end. Much more dangerous. Sick, sick, sick.

    • July 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM

      Thanks confused… just added the “slapping” part.

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 3:20 PM

      yup definately didnt want to wear hoop earrings even if you were remotely going to get into a fight!! or if a fight was getting ready to break out, id seen girls take their earrings off right before going into battle! i remember back in late 80’s my jr high days, a fight where one girl ripped out the other girls hoop earrings…

    • jla
      July 20, 2013 at 7:24 PM

      hahahaha! “baby ball muncher” !

      • Squeezy
        July 21, 2013 at 10:37 PM

        Gorga the Barbarian was trying to gouge juicy’s eyes too. How did Rosie end up on the ground? Thanks for the screen shot of the bald head!!! Lol when his hat his on backwards you can also see how far back the hairline is!

        • July 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

          I think Rosie ended up on the ground while pulling Joey away.

  4. Nameless
    July 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Poison is going to assault his wife one of these days. Is she going to blame Teresa for that too?

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      i dont condone domestic violence but god help me, missy would be an exception, have it coming to her…the episode when joes collide and esp this little sneak peak ( of tomorrows episode) heck i wanted to knock missys teeth down her throat myself!!! and oh yes i seen her slapping and scratching at juicy…not enough to just pull your husband off, gotta get them licks in too eh missy?

    • windycitywondering2
      July 20, 2013 at 8:39 PM

      Melissa doesn’t realize that when she riles her husband up that he just goes off – she has been tossed aside at two events that we have seen!
      She loads her bullets of hate, envy, rage and insecurity and he is the gun that apparently has no safety… sadly one day that gun will hurt either her or their kids or both.

      • July 20, 2013 at 9:58 PM

        she is envious of ??? T ?ba ha ha ha ,ya ok, I have a feeling she wouldn’t want a man like fathead .I have another feeling she wouldn’t want 2 look like T (would u ?) Pretty sure she is happy with HER body ! Don’t think she would give up her singing career for a cookbook . I am real sure she doesn’t want kid’s that act the way T & fatheads do . .Ya ,don’t believe T has a darn thing Melissa would want

    • chachapaa
      July 20, 2013 at 8:39 PM

      Nameless, Of course she is! Joe was mad at what Teresa has done to him and it was dark and he thought she was Teresa..So if Teresa had not been mean to baby Jojo it would never have happened lol.

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM

      He has already admitted that he gets horny for his wife when he is mad at his sister, so it’s not a big stretch to think he would use her as a punching bag when he has issues with other people, either. His mind isn’t right.

  5. mare
    July 20, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Please Rosie next time don’t hold Melissa back. I’m very sure that Teresa can clean the floors with her.

    • lucille mason
      July 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

      thats what melissa wants, for teresa to hit her. this way she can cry,say, look how tiny i am,and she beat me up, teresa did the right thing.

      • Pippi
        July 20, 2013 at 4:51 PM

        lucille for sure she wants Teresa to hit her. If Teresa ever resorted to such an action especially on camera, TSIL would press charges for assault faster than a New York minute! The thing is Teresa’s in her early forties and engaging in fisticuffs is not her style. However if she did I’m pretty sure TSIL would suffer a beat down like no other!

      • July 20, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        Exactly! Remember the fight TSIL and T got into last season in one of the first episodes? I believe it was Kim D’s white party. T was leaving and TSIL followed her. They were arguing, T was getting in her car to leave and TSIL taunted “Go ahead, run away like you always do.” Of course T got out of her car and approached TSIL. TSIL backed up a bit… as if she was afraid of T and said “Whacha gonna do, hit me”? How T didn’t hit her is beyond me. T is one strong woman in soooo many ways. I’ve got to hand it to her also. T is always saying that she loves TSIL because she is her SIL. It’s hard to believe but in her own way, I think T is telling the truth. TSIL doesn’t want us to know but T is protective of her… always walking away when the talk starts about TSIL… obviously knowing a lot about her, her past and I’m sure even recent stuff that she could let out of the bag. I don’t know how she does it considering how TSIL says horrible things behind her back AND to T’s face. I believe she doesn’t want to embarrass her brother. She is loyal to a fault so much to a fault that she doesn’t even come out and say just how loyal she is… even when they’re in her face saying she’s not… she doesn’t say it because she’d have to out TSIL in the process.

        The Marcos are horrible, horrible people… down to their cores. The way I mean it makes it a very heavy statement.

        • Kathy
          July 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM

          The Marcos are trash, pure and simple.

          • JUST ME P
            July 20, 2013 at 10:32 PM


            • Kathy
              July 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM

              Remember at the Gorga baby christening when one of TSIL’s brothers-in-law said in his cartoonishly nasal voice, “We’re classy people” ? Bwahahaha! I knew that was B.S. even at the time, but I didn’t fully grasp how MUCH B.S. it would prove to be over time. The Gorga/Marcos are just the gift that keeps on giving.

              • Cee_See
                July 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM

                Kathy, I watched the Christening brawl on youtube recently and I remember the BIL your talking about. I think that is Kim Perilli’s husband. He’s kind of ok looking but talked like Alvin or one of his chipmunks? I remember T’sB’s BIL was telling whomever that Tb had every reason to act the way he did, there by condoning his violent behavior. I don’t think I’ll ever forget that voice, though!

        • July 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM

          I wouldnt be surprised if Melissa loses her book deal after the publishers see this. usually there is a morality clause, no one ig going to want to buy her book after seeing this, bc she had a few folks fooled that dont read the blogs maybe..but after they see this episode, even they are going to wonder. after this, i dont think she will even find another sugar daddy, unless hes old and senile. i think she thought shed get an athlete like Kim Z, but nobody will fall for her act after this.

        • Buck Henry
          July 21, 2013 at 9:42 PM

          The reason why Teresa won’t say anything is the fact that what she knows would destroy her brother and his family. Also there is alot of stuff that Joe Gorga has told Melissa and/or she knows about him (the assault charge that was dropped, etc. etc.). Her stupid brother married a monster and there is no way out for him, she and him are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

      • July 21, 2013 at 7:09 AM


      • Alley
        July 21, 2013 at 10:48 PM

        Teresa knows Melissa is a joke and wouldn’t give her the honor of hitting her.

    • mare
      July 20, 2013 at 11:55 PM

      I know. Teresa definitely acted with her brain. Melissa just ticked me off so much. So brave in her talking heads and when others are around.
      I was telling my daughter (who didn’t watch first two seasons) how much Teresa has grown as a person.

      • July 21, 2013 at 7:32 AM

        I agree. Teresa ask for advice from people she respects. All life is throwing at her is making her stronger and more discerning. She is growing. Her treasure is her family

        • Cee_See
          July 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM

          I like the way you put that Kimberly: “All life is throwing at her is making her stronger and more discerning. ” That is so true about Tre that’s why I have such respect for her!

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:05 AM

      Teresa’s got guns.

      • July 21, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        (buffed arms)

  6. love4peace
    July 20, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    i wonder how they are going to try to spin this one, if they just said we are jealous and wanted to be famous i might cut them some slack. some way it will be teresa fault and they are angel’s. it’s beyond me the nerve they have. i really think they are so dumb that they have no clue how wrong they are. i bet they feel like they are right. i hope andy brings all this up, i know he knows this is wrong, for the love of god please andy.

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM

      remember poison and missy are angels from god ( need an emoticon of a green sick puke face LOL)

    • rfeliciat
      July 21, 2013 at 10:17 AM

      And the few fans they have left will be right there beside them, parroting the Angels’ excuses and blame shifts as if all that Teresa’s supposedly “done” to them is a good reason to act the way they do.

      • July 21, 2013 at 1:51 PM

        i noticed when melissa tweets, alot of times no one even answers her anymore. they are so dumb though, they probably thought this would be their table flipping moment and the world would fall in love LOL

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM

      If anybody needed somebody to write their blog for them after the next episode, it would be Melissa. She needs a high-powered spin doctor who does it for a living.

  7. NinaK
    July 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Melissa is most definitely not trying to break up the fight. Notice how her arms are outstretched for more than half of the stills– with just her hands in the mix, i.e., perfect for slapping, scratching, etc, but basically nothing more than that. By contrast look at Rosie’s arms fully extended and wrapped around someone’s waist

  8. Saddle_River_NJ
    July 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    At this point I really feel bad for the Gorga’s kids. They are still young, but this is the legacy the parents are leaving them. To be “on display” in such scummy, creepy behavior is something the kids are going to discover in a few years. It’s one thing for a woman to be a whore and a man to be a low-life streeg thug – but it’s another for the children to have to face that reality. It just sickens me to think what those kids will learn about thier parents.

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM

      or what their classmates will tease them/ about this. i still shudder about missy giving her daughter a copy of her book for antonia’s wedding *ugh*

    • July 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

      You know what I am afraid of, the Gorga’s are more than likely watching the program WITH their children.

      • Pippi
        July 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM

        momajackie they totally are. SloJo tweeted the other day “just catching up with RHONJ episodes with my two year old son” it’s a photo of little Joey sitting on a pool table watching a huge T.V. with a scene of SloJo freaking about something. The child looks captivated. So what are their young children learning watching this crap. They get to see and hear exactly how their parents act and how their parents feel about the Guidice’s. If I can feel such strong emotion towards a T.V. show I couldn’t imagine what a child would feel.

        I wish I knew how to post tweet links, when I saw that one I was SMH!!!

        • July 20, 2013 at 5:29 PM

          It was someone else’s son, he re-tweeted it. I thought the same thing until I looked at it again.

          • Pippi
            July 20, 2013 at 6:37 PM

            momajackie I went and checked it out again, yup your right. My bad.

          • July 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM

            That’s sickening too! Who in their right minds would let their two year old watch this? And this/these parents are obviously a TB fan so I’m sure the son sees his parents revere TB which influences the poor child thinking this is admirable behavior. Just the fact that the parent(s) are TB, TSIL fans says a lot about them… and not in a good way (stating the obvious).

            • Jeannie5233
              July 20, 2013 at 9:22 PM

              Agree completely right down to your very last sentence. What was that mother thinking that RHONJ is appropriate viewing for a two year old child??

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM

      And that little girl is just the sweetest thing. You can see that she is already catching on a little. I think her mother is barely home. By the way, Melissa tweeted what she thought was a cute picture of her little one in the back seat of a car, and got hammered for it because AGAIN her kid was not in an appropriate car seat and restrained properly. Melissa does what Melissa wants. She just got a citation for it, and she tweets this out? Maybe giving the finger to the police?

      • July 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM

        I don’t think she is home very much either. When TB ask where is your mother? Gino said -“I have no idea” camera pans to TSIL on the sofa lol

    • July 21, 2013 at 1:54 PM

      I agree. Danielle Staub acted this way as a young woman..when she got to be a mom/older, she handles herself like a woman now. Not Melissa & baby Joe, theyre parents and acting like this, to their own family on TV.

      How can they spin this is rite to their kids??? either they have to teach their kids that hate is rite or otherwise the kids will be ashamed of them

  9. LifeIsGood
    July 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Someone please explain to me how they can accuse Juicy of starting the fight??? Whorga charged him from across the room – in full sight of every single person there!!! From what I saw, Juicy had both Kathy and Bitchie holding him back, and Mr. Ed trying to scratch his eyes out and he STILL managed to kick some midget ass.

    At the reunion, they will spin it into being Juicy’s fault, and Andy will help them to do it. If you are thinking it will be any different – you are kidding yourself.

    Bitchie is such a wuss. Notice how he NEVER says anything within earshot of Juicy. I would love to see Juicy get in his face and tell him off. Bitchie would just stand back and take it, and then make some sh***y little comment in his TH.

    • love4peace
      July 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM

      i have hope andy can bring it up and it will make for a great reunion show. can you imagine how great that would be

      • lucille mason
        July 20, 2013 at 3:42 PM

        how many fist fights can the midget get in, before getting fired,this is his 2nd one

        • July 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM

          You know I was going to say 3rd. I was thinking about Punta Cuna. Then I realized he wasn’t one of those arrested… very telling when I think about it. He obviously didn’t come to help his sister. And he calls T garbage and scum? How horrible for T. I feel so bad for her. She doesn’t like the term “team T” or Team TSIL.” It’s her brother who for some crazy reason she still would take back in a heart beat in a REAL reconciliation. It doesn’t make her feel good to see all these hateful posts against him. Can’t say the same the other way around. T truly can’t win… even with her feelings about all of this. I gain more and more respect for her the more I really think about it. I pray to God Juicy doesn’t get jail time… or at least minimal time. That’s probably what TB is waiting for. For Juicy to go to jail so he can pretend to ride in on his white horse and save the day for his sister. He’ll look like a hero! Everyone will gloat what a wonderful brother he is! After all T has done to him (gag gag gag) and he is STILL there for her in her darkest hour. I wonder how he’s going to angle Juicy being gone. Will everything still be T’s fault? Or will it be Juicy’s fault? or will it be “it was obviously Juicy’s influence on T” fault”? God I hope their gone by then. Move to Hollywood or something. THAT would be a true wakeup call for them. They’d be “normal” (is that really possible? lol), “everyday” people there. Did I say how much I hate it when celebrities refer to us as “normal, everyday people”? (I have many other names more fitting to call TB and TSIL however.)

          • Jeannie5233
            July 20, 2013 at 7:46 PM

            His trial date is set now for October 28th. I am hoping – praying – Teresa sees the light by then and sees her brother for exactly what he is and cuts him off completely. TB is never going to change. He will still resent Joe and he will hurt her time and again. It is hard to do – I know because I had to do it. It was one of the most difficult things I have ever been through, but now after all is said and done andhaving gone through the mourning process, I think to myself, My life is so much better now – why didn’t I do it sooner?

            • July 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

              I agree and I also know it is hard to do. If I could turn back time, I would not have wasted so much time and energy that I could have spent with people who did not play mind games with me and take me on guilt trips.

            • July 21, 2013 at 8:08 PM

              I’m sorry to hear you had to go through that Jeannie. I have a similar situation myself. It’s complicated. I really glad to hear you’re in a better place now… it gives me hope.

              I agree with you that TB won’t change. Unless Melissa dumps him and humbles him… not even sure then ’cause he’ll probably blame it on Teresa no matter what the situation.

          • July 20, 2013 at 11:53 PM

            That’s exactly what Slo Jo is planning. Thing is, I think Teresa will be perfectly fine on her own if Juicy goes “away” (although I would prefer violent offenders spending time in jail, but I digress). He wants her so beat down that only he can save her. It’s not happening. She’s too tough and I really hope that the better place they all claim to be in is civility but friendship. The Gorgas (junior) are poison and Teresa would always have to watch her back.

            • July 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM

              And I didn’t mean to infer Juicy was violent. I mean real ones like rapists, murders, arsonists, abusers… what he is charged with should be community service and probabion, IMO

              • Kathy
                July 21, 2013 at 5:14 PM

                I agree. I can’t see him getting any jail time for this.

                • jl
                  July 21, 2013 at 5:35 PM

                  I hope he gets community service and a fine, not jail time.

                • July 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM

                  I couldn’t either Kathy but there area a few on here (Saddle River, specifically if I am remembering correctly) who are much more informed on Jersey law than I am and have said that Jersey takes the license fraud VERY seriously. If you look it up, that seems to be a very correct statement. It is very different here in Indiana than in Jersey though and it was all a real eye opener for me when that whole discussion was going on.

                  • July 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM

                    I’m in NJ too and I don’t know specifically about license fraud, but things in general have tightened up considerably since 9/11… motor vehicles has very strict guidelines to try and prevent fraud and it makes sense that it’s followed through into the court system. The problem with Joe’s trial, and the reason for the adjournment to Oct. 28, is because jury selection is going to be very tricky… for obvious reasons. I’m wondering if Joe is relieved it’s delayed or if he just wants to get it over with.

        • JUST ME P
          July 21, 2013 at 3:44 AM

          RETREAT. FIGHT

    • July 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

      There were some comments somewhere from TSIL fans (or TSIL aliases) stating Juicy was looking for a fight by the way he came “charging in there.” Since when demanding an apology to his wife is looking for a fight? Desperation… see, TB doesn’t have to apologize for calling T scum (amongst countless other reasons), T has to apologize for not helping her brother. They keep digging their grave deeper and deeper. See T knew she never had to say much bad about TSIL… she knew, giving her enough rope she’d do it to herself. TSIL is stubborn as he!! however. Arrogance to the nth power. Hey Whacko Jacko… look up psychopath in the dictionary… you can’t POSSIBLY say that TSIL’s picture isn’t right there by it. I honestly don’t remember if Jax said psychopath or sociopath… I looked both up and they both fit TSIL pretty darn accurately. If Jax did say sociopath… one of the traits is highly intelligent… yet they always call T dumb as a box of rocks. ho hum.

      • Jeannie5233
        July 20, 2013 at 7:39 PM

        dch60 – I love that word you used to describe TSIL. It is a wonder it isn’t used more often: ARROGANT! Perfection!

        • charok
          July 20, 2013 at 10:29 PM

          agreed!!!! TSIL is VERY arrogant!!!!!!

        • July 21, 2013 at 9:05 PM

          Thx Jeannie… heck yeah it doesn’t describe her! and her little dog too… lolol As I was trying to figure out why in the world that phrase would have popped into my head. I typed it without even really thinking about it… it hit me! … no Melissa does not remind me of Dorothy but she does remind me of the “witch” who said it… lol And well… Joey is like her little lap dog… and she does have him on a leash… metaphorically anyway.

      • Cee_See
        July 21, 2013 at 2:44 AM

        Sociopaths are able to handle confrontations well. They are articulate with their words and when confronted about some crap thing they did they can lie like the devil and come across as the “victim”! Sociopaths are master manipulators! That doesn’t sound like Teresa to me who I cringe for when she is in a confrontation because she freezes up (I do, too!)! We see Tsil starting a confrontation with Tre after the fight. If a viewer didn’t watch what lead up to the fight scene they might believe Tsil’s accusation that Tre really is disgusting for not stopping the fight! I’m thinking that’s why Tsil started blaming Tre right after the physical fight was under control. Tsil knew the fight was taped and at that time she may have assumed that she would get the better edit. So, she was creating some good footage to manipulate viewers that Tre started the fight and ran, or walked, away from it! That is my opinion on why Tsil is acting like the “victim”, again, even though viewers can view the whole fight scene online and come to their own conclusion on who started the fight.

        • nuttyz
          July 22, 2013 at 10:12 AM

          I agree. I’m guessing Melissa was counting on a good edit and again and was probably thinking that the part where Teresa was shown getting the security won’t get aired, that’s why she kept talking about how T ran away and didn’t help. I’m so glad that part didn’t get cut out and now everyone can see what a conniving evil person Melissa is.

          • Happy Holly Daze
            July 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

            Again, I’m thinking when the fight was going on, the production crew, knew in their hearts, that they HAD to show who was really at fault here.. The Gorgas.. There is no way, that they can show Teresa in a bad light, after catching all of this nonsense on tape. Thank God, the production team came to their senses. They had it all wrong.. They were pussy whipped by Missy and Joeys audition tape.. thinking “they were going to bring T and her family down’ All they really succeeded in doing was bring themselves down. We are alot smarter than the Gorgas thought the audience would be. And the production crew said.. “enough”

    • Jeannie5233
      July 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM

      Thankfully, it is all caught on video and it can be disputed till kingdom come – the proof is there. Roll the tape!!!!

  10. Dianna
    July 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Off topic, but I love scary movies. Rainy afternoon and I’m watching Evil Dead. I have a bad case of scary movie tourrettes and I’ve thrown the dog across the room twice already

    • AnnieMarie
      July 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM

      Omg, dianna! I’m watching Evil Dead right now!! I had to come on here to distract myself. I am not a big horror movie fan. Thank goodness it’s still daylight out!!

      • Dianna
        July 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

        Haha you know what they say about great minds!!!

        • AnnieMarie
          July 20, 2013 at 5:52 PM

          Great minds indeed! I feel like all of us on here are like-minded. 🙂 I am totally watching something happy after this.

          • Dianna
            July 20, 2013 at 6:37 PM

            Out of a million thing we could be doing we picked the same thing to do at practically the same time. Did you order pizza in also? I read fame along time before I got the courage to post. There are so many wonderful ladies on here. I think we are all Fame Sisters.

            • AnnieMarie
              July 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM

              Hahaha, we had KFC instead of pizza. I think most of us read Fame’s blog before commenting. 🙂 It’s fun when you actually start joining in the fray. I like how we can also write about things other than the Fame Whorgas. Fame has a nice little forum going on here. 🙂

            • July 20, 2013 at 7:10 PM

              • Dianna
                July 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

                Is that our theme song?

                • Jeannie5233
                  July 20, 2013 at 7:37 PM

                  Oh yay! It sure is!! 🙂

                  • Dianna
                    July 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM

                    Got a big smile on my face!!!

              • RedVelvetCake
                July 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM

                OMG I remember this song when I was kid watching my favorite baseball team the Pittsburgh Pirates and Pops Willie Stargell ,Chuck Tanner, Kent Tekulve, Dave Parker, the 1979 Worlds Series against the Baltimore Orioles.Let’s Go Bucs!!!!!

                • LifeIsGood
                  July 21, 2013 at 8:13 AM

                  Lets go Bucs!! “Raise It”

                • July 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM

                  Wow, I remember that too!!!
                  I would have never thought of it if you hadn’t reminded me. Once again, this site it too cool.

              • AnnieMarie
                July 20, 2013 at 10:42 PM

                🙂 I love it!

          • Blondie2203
            July 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM

            I agree. I love the show Pretty wicked moms:) Its lighthearted and funny. The southern moms are too cute, especially Nicole and Emily!! Love them.

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 5:33 PM

      avoid ” the conjuring” ( the new one in theaters) my ex texted me saying he seen it and almost pee’ed himself 4 times ( and this guy is psycho, mr billy bad a** ) for HIM to say THAT tells me something! :O

      • Dianna
        July 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM

        See I might have to go to a matinee to see the conjuring the trailers freak me out. When I was really little my sister would wake me in the middle of the night. To watch horror movie. I love them but I do cuss jump and hide my face occasionally. Haha

      • AnnieMarie
        July 20, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        I am totally avoiding The Conjuring. I was given a choice, Evil Dead at home or the Conjuring at the theatre. I opted for the former and the big open windows full of pretty sunshine.

      • Pippi
        July 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

        The Conjuring is the movie I’m waiting for. I’m a horror movie buff, when this one comes to my neck of the dark and eerie woods I’ll be the first in line.

        • Dianna
          July 20, 2013 at 7:09 PM

          Ok but does everyone in your family know when it’s zombie week. They need to stay away from the TV cook their own meals and be quiet while your watching tv. Haha one of my husbands friends dropped by and said come on let’s all go eat. I was like sorry Zombie Week he laughed. My husband said no she’s serious. ;).

      • July 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM

        The Conjuring looks scary as he!!. It’s based on a true story too which always makes it worse. I’m sure very loosely based but I am a believer in spirits. I’m never really sure about demons however but so many claim to have experiences, including very credible people, that I think there is some truth to it.

        I was wondering JUST how scary is was however, because whenever a new scary movie comes out they all claim to be “the scariest ever”!! You’ve confirmed it for me now… or your bad a$$ ex did.

      • July 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM

        That house is a real house in Burriville R.I.abt 20-30 minutes from me.I;ll wait for that movie to come on demand lol

        • Dianna
          July 20, 2013 at 11:45 PM

          I might have to look up the facts and tell them to my husband after we’ve paid for tickets He is a big ole scardt cat. Haha

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      im not much on scary movies but i DO love jeepers creepers and jeepers creepers 2. i can NOT wait for jeepers creepers 3!

      • AnnieMarie
        July 20, 2013 at 6:19 PM

        There is a third movie? The way the 2nd movie ended, I thought there was going to be a third movie, but then it never came out.

        • Dianna
          July 20, 2013 at 6:27 PM

          No The Exorcist. When they put back in all the scenes that they cut out way back when. Reagan crawl up the stairs backwards. And did just watch something happy. Afterwards. Problem Child 😉

          • AnnieMarie
            July 20, 2013 at 7:01 PM

            My happy movie is Jack and the giant beanstalk or is it Jack the giant killer? The movie that recently came out. Just starts watching it. Evil Dead was a bit much for me. I had my ears and occasionally my eyes covered during the movie. Eep!

            • Dianna
              July 20, 2013 at 7:12 PM

              I just fed my teacup chi. A little pizza to make up for throwing her when I jumped. I think it’s all cool between us again

          • July 20, 2013 at 7:40 PM

            OMG The Exorcist! I wouldn’t watch that movie for the longest time. A crazy thing happened the DAY after I finally watched that movie. I was laying in bed… I was about 17 so I stayed in bed latish on weekends. I woke up about 11:30 am and I swear my bed was shaking!!! Ever so slightly but undeniably shaking! Now I had “experiences” in my childhood home to begin with but THIS completely freaked me out! I went downstairs and was shaking like a leaf. My mom never believed it when I told her about things that went on in the house so I hesitated saying anything but I didn’t know how I was ever going to go into that bedroom again. So we’re sitting there watching tv and the news came on saying how we just had an earthquake which was “felt across the area.” I live in NJ so earthquakes are extremely rare but they do occur. They have always been very low on the Richter scale. i don’t even remember what this one scored but I can’t tell you how happy I was to hear we had an earthquake!!! My mom didn’t even notice it but trust me… laying in that bed… right after watching the Exorcist which I deliberately avoided for so long… I felt that daggone earthquake shake my bed! I didn’t watch scary movies for a long after that but I love them now… only with my boyfriend next to me however.

            • Dianna
              July 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM

              Great story

            • Jeannie5233
              July 20, 2013 at 9:26 PM

              LOLOL!!!!!! How funny!!!

            • July 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM

              I can’t watch the Exorcist. The first time I saw it, I was babysitting out of town (my neighbor had just moved to Indy and I was staying with her every other week to babysit her girls) and all of a sudden there are police banging on the door…the lady in the apartment next door had someone break in and rape her! So it is doubly scary for me. Can’t do it!!!

              • July 21, 2013 at 9:11 PM

                Oh geez! I won’t watch it ever again either but the memory for you! That’s awful. Even the music is creepy although hauntingly beautiful in another way. I can’t imagine you’d even want to hear that song again however.

        • Pippi
          July 20, 2013 at 6:54 PM

          @charok @Annie yes Jeepers Creepers 3 the is now in post production. Hope this one is as good as the first two.

        • charok
          July 20, 2013 at 7:28 PM

          yes indeed anniemarie there is a 3rd movie, fast forward to where the 2nd left off, old senior taggert sitting there waiting for creeper to wake up. trisha son ( who she names darry -after her brother) trisha fears her son will meet her brothers fate. she teams up w/ taggert sr. and supposedly supposed to show us the creepers origins, where he came from?? i can NOT wait, this film has had soooo many delays!!!

    • JUST ME P
      July 21, 2013 at 3:56 AM


      • Dianna
        July 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

        It was more like a toss. She only weighs 3 lbs. and this time I did catch her 😄

    • rfeliciat
      July 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM

      Is it any good? I’ve been debating whether or not to watch it.

      • Dianna
        July 21, 2013 at 12:00 PM

        Well. Unless you love horror movies, I wouldn’t pay money to see it. Like I said up above I love them My world stops for zombie week. My husband laughs at me He says I watch Z movies. To him they aren’t even B s. haha.

    • Blondie2203
      July 22, 2013 at 3:48 PM

      Haha! That is hilarious!! My husband has been watching scary movies all last week. And Evil Dead is the scariest by far he said. I haven’t commented in a while since last season and only a couple times. Thank you fame for putting in your own time energy and effort to put out the facts that support Teresa and juicy!!! Love this blog!!!

  11. charok
    July 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    melissa giving that line about saddam hussein/being someones brother??( im trying to remember how she said it, like saddam was someones brother? so i took it like missy saying tre is the evil sibling just like saddam was the evil sibling with his family?/)

    • July 20, 2013 at 7:56 PM

      And TERESA is the one always calling TSIL horrible names… says they. How DUMB do they think we are? Can’t believe there are some people who do buy their loads of crap. I have to question if they really do believe it or they just hate T that much that they so desperately want to believe it… they’re in denial. I’m sure that accounts for some of them anyway. There is evidence that some of the others know TSIL i.e. evil sisters. I hate it when people say that… a positive post and they’ll say “hi Teresa! (or insert any other RH’s name here)” as if Teresa doesn’t actually have fans… however, it’s been established good enough for me that TSIL and her devilish sisters do actually have pseudonyms that they use to comment. So since there has been what I consider pretty solid proof, I don’t feel like a hypocrite believing and saying that in TSIL’s case.

      • July 20, 2013 at 10:04 PM

        I’m so sick of hearing you must be paid by Teresa if you are pro Teresa. I mean seriously — she sold her books out in SF and Houston. Fans wrap around the building the wait in line for her. I guess she paid them too — PUHHHHLLLLLEEZE.

        • July 20, 2013 at 11:56 PM

          What?! Teresa pays for posters? Man, sign me up! I could use some cash :::eyeroll::::

          • July 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

            LOL – that IS a great come back to that accusation.

        • July 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM

          The idea that fans wait so long to see and talk to Teresa has got to annoy people who go on ego trips. I could be wrong, but I think some of the fans have issues with Teresa simply because she doesn’t have to do anything other than be herself and people are attracted to her.

          • July 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

            So true.

  12. Jeannie5233
    July 20, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    I just got back from the drugstore picking up a prescription. There it was – the new USWeekly issue, July 29. 2013 with a cover photo including Melissa and Teresa on the upper right hand side with the headline “Teresa’s Evil Plot The In-Law from Hell”. Of course, I was hooked and bought the damn thing. And it doesn’t disappoint – TSIL’s fans, that is.

    Once again, TSIL’s connections over at this magazine are busy as bees doing damage control and making her out to be the victim of Teresa’s “Evil Plot”. Some of the statements are blatantly incorrect and out and out LIES. Thank goodness there is video and screen shots of this fight – PROOF POSITIVE TB started this fight and TSIL full on assaulted Joe with her hands on his face and head. My question to TSIL would be: Why would you allow this article to be put out there to antagonize the fans and further drive the wedge between you and Teresa if you truly are in a better place now? That’s a rhetorical question because I already know the answer: You really aren’t and it is all fake – just like everything else about you and your husband. Here is this PIECE OF TRASH article:

    “Families At War!!
    From begging to brawling: Gorga vs. Giudice takes a new turn
    By Eric Andersson

    For the feuding Gorga and Giudice families, insult-hurling and finger-pointing are as commonplace as red wine at Sunday dinner. But the war of words became frighteningly physical on the July 14 episode of The Real Housewives of New Jersey. During a trust-building retreat intended to mend the rift, Melissa Gorga’s husband Joe, called sister Teresa Giudice “scum” in a moment of anger. When Teresa’s husband, Joe Giudice, 40 demanded an apology, the two men charged each other, fists – and f-bombs – flying. As Melissa tels US “We hit rock bottom.”

    The violent melee – which will be seen to its conclusion on the July 21 episode – was a long time coming. For years, viewers of the Bravo reality series (Sundays,, 8 P.M.) have watched bad blood build up on both sides: Teresa, 41, insinuated that sister-in-law Melissa, 34, was a gold digger who married her brother, Joe Gorga, 38, for money; Melissa accusedTteresa of spreading stories Melissa was once a stripper and, most recently, the Gorgas suspected Teresa of fanning false rumors of Melissa’s infidelity. “I blame Teresa for just sitting there” as it was discussed, Melissa says. “How do you not walk away from the table?” Finally, at the retreat, “Joe Gorga just snapped,” says an insider. “He got sick of the Giudices saying s–t about his wife.”

    Rocky Start
    Three days of workshops and therapy at the Sun Castle Resort in Lake George, New York, seemed like a good idea. Teresa – petrified that her ailing father, Giacinto Gorga, would die before seeing his two children make up – had suggested the February retreat. (More family members on the outs with Teresa were also on hand; cousins Rosie Pierri, 46, and Kathy Wakile, 47, and Kathy’s husband, Rich, 49.) Says a Giudice source, “At the end of the day, Teresa wanted to be on good terms.”

    As long as she didn’t have to shoulder any blame, that is. “I’m not going to admit to something that I didn’t do,” Teresa tells US..”I’ll stand to the end, even if I have to die. That stubbornness fed the Gorgas’ doubts, according to a show insider, as did her possible motive for extending an olive branch: “Teresa made no effort when the cameras weren’t around. Then the cameras were rolling and she was making an effort?” The Gorgas wanted a real discussion, not a TV-friendly quick-fix. “There have been too many times when we put a Band-Aid on our issues with Teresa and we would always fall back to the same negative place,” Melissa wrote on her Bravotv.com blog July 15. “[Joe and I] decided if we were going to go to this retreat, we weren’t going to be fake.”

    Melissa says the families “try to move on.”
    Teresa tells US she “learned a lot” this season.
    “The fight between my brother and my husband was heart-wrenching. They went at it . I couldn’t stand to see it.”. . .Teresa to US

    Beat Down
    That warts-and-all strategy exploded in their faces. The final straw for Joe Gorga: Once again, Teresa denied having a hand in spreading rumors about their family – and she ran to her volatile husband to tell him about the “scum” insult. “At that moment,” Joe Gorga explained of his outburst, “I had 10 years of anger and hatred coming out.” Those who witnessed the scene were in disbelief. Says Kathy, who, along with Rich, Melissa, and Rosie, pulled the men apart, “We were all shocked and emotional and left thinking, OK, what do we do now and how do we recover?”

    Their first step: Cool off. Despite flared tempers – “I never want to look at these people again for the rest of my life,” fumed Melissa – they all retreated to their rooms for the night. “Kathy and Rich talked people into staying,” says a show insider. For Joe Gorga, it was a make-or-break juncture in his ongoing saga with his sister. “It was either be done with Teresa and cut ties,” continues the insider, “or work on their relationship.”

    ARE YOU ON TEAM GIUDICE OR TEAM GORGA? Fans of the Bravo show took sides on Usmagazine.com 79% SAY TEAM GORGA

    A healthy dose of tough love – jumped started that process. “We needed someone to put her foot down, tell us to shut the f–k up and listen to each other,” says Melissa. Psychologist Venus “Dr. “V” Nicolino (of Bravo’s L.A. Shrinks) arrived to do just that. The morning after the blowup, says a show source, she talked to Joe [Gorga] and Teresa individually and together.”

    Water works resulted. “My husband cried like a baby,” says Melissa. “He loves his sister, but he wants to shake her and tell her to stop hurting us.”

    Reluctant Truce
    The Gorgas and Giudices at last agreed the conflict was out of control. “They came to the consensus that they should bury the hatchet,” says the show source “Fighting was taking up too much time and energy.

    Still, Melissa and Teresa won’t be making a joint trip to Sizzle Tans anytime soon. “Neither trusts the other one very much,” says the show source. Adds Melissa, “You don’t just snap your fingers and say ‘Everything’s fine’. I’m working on trust.”

    So is her sister-in-law. “We’re family, so we have to get over it.. Sometimes things have to get worse for it to get better,” Teresa tells US. “And that was definitely our worst.”

    Nicolino is optimistic – to a point. “We may have stitched things together for the time being,” she tells US. “But I don’t think anything is a done deal.”

    Joe’s Legal Woes

    Joe Giudice won’t spend his summer sweating in court. The former pizza parlor owner, who faces 10 years behind bars for allegedly using his brother’s ID to obtain a driver’s license in 2010, was due to start his trial July 15. But a judge has pushed the appearance to October 28. “Joe maintains his innocence,” Miles Feinstein tells US, adding, “It will be tough to choose a jury because of the high-profile defendant.” What ever the verdict, Teresa tells US she’s standing by her man” “I’ll always be there for him.” US”

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

      Jeannie5233= THANK YOU!!!!! i seen this very US magazine at the dollar store this morning too…i did not buy it, figured it would be more missy drivel. sure does contradict missy just wanting to work things out and get into a better place right?

      • Jeannie5233
        July 20, 2013 at 4:05 PM

        This is the kind of stuff that makes me bonkers. Note to Bravo – you are welcome to the numnuts who are buying the storyline you are trying so desperately to pitch that the castmembers are all singing Kumbaya over a campfire. For the rest of us – we all know the real story.

    • Daisy Joy
      July 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

      79% team Gorga??….I’m not buying that….I call bs

      • charok
        July 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM

        on the usmagazine website they did have that poll. i went on and voted giudice ( of course!!!) however i was disgusted that the gorgas lead the poll w/ a similar lead

        • July 20, 2013 at 6:39 PM

          I refuse to go that scummy website, not even for Tre.

          • love4peace
            July 20, 2013 at 7:08 PM

            same here

          • LifeIsGood
            July 21, 2013 at 8:23 AM

            Me too, MzJule. I wont watch and give Bravo the ratings, either. If the tide turns against MeHo – I’ll gladly tune back in. The blogs keep me up to date.

        • July 20, 2013 at 8:11 PM

          I did go to the website to read another “Pro-TSIL” story only because it was mentioned that many of the comments were negative TSIL and surprisingly there WERE mostly negative comments about TSIL. For that reason I do NOT believe that poll to be valid. I’m sorry, but I would bet dollars to donuts that TSIL, TB and TSIL evils sisters and evil mother, probably Jax and her “soldiers” were on that site morning noon and night to get those results. I’m sorry… I usually hate it when people make claims like that about whichever RH, but in this case, I simply don’t believe that many people are on TSIL side.

          It’s also absolutely disgusting that TSIL keeps saying that Teresa should have walked away from that table when she KNOWS that Teresa DID walk away. WTF??? Why isn’t there an article on the newsstands countering TSIL lie? IMO it’s irrelevant if Teresa walked away or not. TSIL is so far from innocent doing the same thing she keeps blaming Teresa of doing. It’s old; it’s aggravating; it’s frustrating and I JUST CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! Also hate it when people use a lot of caps… see what this is turning me into?!?!? I don’t like it. I would always watch RHoNJ or if I recorded it, would watch it first chance. Now I keep putting it off and putting it off and will finally just about force myself to watch it. If I wasn’t involved in this and I read this for the first time I would think this person writing this comment is out of their mind. I don’t think that’s a good thing. I think I’m going to have a drink before I watch the next episode even though I don’t drink. Just kidding… (sort of.)

          I think I will go check out the article JUST to check out the comments. I’ll report back if no one has already (haven’t read all the comments yet).

        • July 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

          Strange… I just went to that site and I didn’t see any poll. I searched Melissa Gorga and at first the most recent article didn’t come up even though I searched by most recent. Then I reloaded and that time an article about the Teresa “not walking away” came up but it was dated July 10. I think that one was the one I just commented on. Like I said… I read the first 20 or so comments and they were ALL anti TSIL. So no wonder… I couldn’t even get the poll. It probably only came up for TSIL fans… some how… lol. (hahaha and even some of them voted against her… I can dream… OTOH might not be a dream.)

          • Jeannie5233
            July 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

            It’s not on the website dch60 – it is in the magazine on newstands! I bought it and then typed it out here so everyone could see how TSIL is STILL putting it out there that she is the victim of Teresa’s Evil Plot. We all know USWeekly is in TSIL’s pocket and she was paid for that interview.

            If you really wanted to help your husband and his sister try to mend their relationship; if you really wanted to try and mend your own relationship with your sister-in-law, there is absolutely no reason – NONE – to put out a story like this. All this does is create new bad feelings.

            TSIL will never want the Gorgas to heal – so in her husband’s infamous words: TSIL SHAME ON YOU!

        • July 21, 2013 at 12:01 AM

          I”m sure it was spammed. Not hard to do when you don’t have a life.

        • July 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM


      • Kathy
        July 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM

        Remember: the people voting in their poll are largely idiots, especially if they’re buying the ridiculous US magazine spin, which bears no resemblance to reality.

    • July 21, 2013 at 12:00 AM

      I bet Little Joe wants to shake his sister. Wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t want to beat her as well. Violent man.

      And if anyone wasn’t trying, it was the Gorgas and Richie. They went in with bad attitudes and it’s all caught on tape.

      • July 21, 2013 at 7:51 AM

        One thing he does not want is a ass kicking from his sister of all people. It would be a huge dent in his ego. He mouths off because his words hurt Teresa.

        I agree that Richie was not trying. At one point he had his hand near Juicy’s face. The biting started which may be why Kathy said He didn’t do anything, He is trying to help. She may have been refering to Richie.

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

      You know, Bravo is spinning the story on their website, too. They also say that they two Joe’s went after each other. Right before they show us video evidence to the contrary. I find it so ironic that Jacqueline had to cut ties with Teresa because she was “selling” stories to magazines, (none were insulting to others) and yet, Melissa has US Magazine on speed dial, but there is nothing wrong with that. How stupid do these people think we are?

    • Cee_See
      July 21, 2013 at 1:10 PM

      Jeannie, Thank-you so much for buying the magazine and letting us know what the article says about RHONJ! You saved me $3.99 or is US mag now $4.99? Whatever it is thanks because I’m the type to throw it in my cart just to read one article!

  13. liltshoe
    July 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Thanks for the still frames Fame! As I scroll thru them, I just can’t help but think of what TSIL is thinking while she’s attacking Juicy. That’s for calling me horsey face. . . racoon eyes, I’ll give you racoon eyes . . you hear me, stop calling me names. . .

  14. Mrs. Krauvitz
    July 20, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    I have watched the fight scene many times. I laugh harder each time. Yes joe Gorga had hair in a can. Watching Melissa run to him to put his hat on was so hilarious ! Gorga went to Rutherford hair replacement center but his credit was rejected. No cash down either. So hair in a can or shaving the head! I guess bravo didnt pick up the tab! Melissa is very bitchy and he is her puppet. She will leave him soon enough . Melissa can’t even rent a bag!

  15. July 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Since you are good at research, it might be helpful for readers to understand more fully the legal definitions of and difference between assault and battery….

    • Jeannie5233
      July 20, 2013 at 8:03 PM

      zhaobudao – what an EXCELLENT suggestion.

      Here is an excerpt from The Free Dictionary – subtopic – The Legal Dictionary:

      “Assault and Battery

      Two separate offenses against the person that when used in one expression may be defined as any unlawful and unpermitted touching of another. Assault is an act that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent, harmful, or offensive contact. The act consists of a threat of harm accompanied by an apparent, present ability to carry out the threat. Battery is a harmful or offensive touching of another.

      The main distinction between the two offenses is the existence or nonexistence of a touching or contact. While contact is an essential element of battery, there must be an absence of contact for assault. Sometimes assault is defined loosely to include battery.

      Assault and battery are offenses in both criminal and Tort Law; therefore, they can give rise to criminal or civil liability. In Criminal Law, an assault may additionally be defined as any attempt to commit a battery.

      At Common Law, both offenses were misdemeanors. As of the early 2000s, under virtually all criminal codes, they are either misdemeanors or felonies. They are characterized as felonious when accompanied by a criminal intent, such as an intent to kill, rob, or rape, or when they are committed with a dangerous weapon.”

      Source: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Assault+and+Battery

      It would appear that it could be said both Assault and Battery were committed against Joe Giudice in this fight.

      • happylady
        July 20, 2013 at 11:43 PM

        And sexual battery too for the ball munching!

        • July 21, 2013 at 11:25 AM


        • Cee_See
          July 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM

          If the cops were called and charges filed Joey would be in deep poo-poo! Tsil would be looking at charges, too! That would have been perfect karma! Tb and Tsil are so fortunate to have Tre as a relative! If it was another man who’s wife Joey insultated then jumped because the husband demanded an apology they would have been arrested and charged! Well, if that happened in Oklahoma they would have arrested them on the spot for pulling that type of crap! That’s what makes me SMH at Tsil and Tb for acting like they are morally correct for the way they behaved! Tsil needs some serious karma to bring her back down to reality. You can’t call people ‘disgusting’ because they don’t do what you want them to do, especially if it involves a violence! Tsil assaulted Juicy Joe while her tar headed husband fondled his testicles with his hands and tried to with his mouth! Tb is lucky that he didn’t seriously hurt Juicy’s ‘boys’! The more I think of the scene with Tsil yelling at Tre the more I can’t stand that wench! Karma will get her and it seems like it’s creeping up slowly! I hope it is!

  16. Anon
    July 20, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    I have to admit that the fight was very disturbing for me to watch and I couldn’t view it multiple times with the exception of the very beginning. Two things I THOROUGHLY enjoyed: TSIL getting knocked into the wall and Juicy, WITH HIS FIST punching Joey Marco in his ribs!

    LOL! Bet that’s why he had a “breakthrough” the next day with Dr V. He was sore and knew without a doubt that Juicy could and would kick his dumba** every day of the week and twice on Sundays!

    #don’tmesswithjuicy #TeamTalltheway

  17. MurfsGirl
    July 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    I’m probably over-thinking this but we seem to have a lot to rejoice about these days. The editing is extremely spliced this season…especially with the entire ErloWest retreat…where we see many instances of TSIL performing (the kneeling screech, the sideways scoot to the window) and she also corrects for the camera quite a bit (SloJo’s hat & then trying to fix his mic). Then yesterday, Penny Drossos puts up a blog. So, here’s my question…and I admit it’s a stretch…do you think, that as part of JTG’s settlement with Bravo for the assault by SloJo & the Lauritas, that a J/M GOR-GAA take-down was agreed upon? Hey, it’s hot up here in CT…I may just be losing my mind!

    • July 20, 2013 at 6:01 PM

      That’s an interesting thought. Editing sure is different this year but I assumed that was because Cat is gone. Who the heck knows…anything is possible at this point!

      • July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

        I think it is because Melissa’s lover the producer is gone. To some extent Bravo trusts them to watch all the footage and put a show together. With Cat gone, we are seeing a more accurate depiction of what is really going on. They could have spliced the fight together to make it look like it was Juicy’s fault and that Teresa just ran away, but they didn’t. I think had this happened last year, they would have.

        • July 21, 2013 at 6:04 PM

          That is what I think as well, Gessie, but there are also a lot of interesting theories that others come up with. This has taken so many crazy turns the past few seasons!

          I hope we find out tonight who was hugging Teresa as she was crying and why…I have a feeling that will be next week’s show though. I am still convinced that now, in real time, that Teresa is finally OVER IT with her brother and sister-in-law and has finally come to understand that there isn’t a thing she can do that will repair their relationship. At least I hope that is the case. Once she finally realizes this she will be in a much better place!

    • Miss Alicat
      July 20, 2013 at 6:02 PM

      I totally think they are going to wrap up this season with the trash they let in and are now stuck with and then give Tre her own show (fingers crossed, hope to god, PRAISE JESUS!!!). Notice how the Manzos/Lauritas get little to no air time and Kathy’s just meh (her husband is gross). The Gorgas are not as popular as they think they are, which is apparent by all of their failures which are DEFINITELY noticed by Bravo by now – not winning a Grammy for ‘On Display’ (Don’t be Tardy blew up the charts compared to it), can’t even get a local endorsement deal for hairplugs or hair in a can spray so have to shave it bald, his “construction” website was taken down, their “pay us to put you in a touch with a celebrity (of which we know none) online” website idea that went nowhere, a workout tape that has yet to appear … just waiting for the book to bomb like Caro’s and then her 15 minutes should be up, no? The only thing I see the Gorgas doing is local appearances at clubs and car dealerships, pretty telling about their popularity if you ask me.

      I think they should move on to housewife porn. They have a better future with that audience than with women who actually have brains, and they both like stripping for money. Seems like a perfect fit for those 2.

      • July 20, 2013 at 6:37 PM

        What is this “pay us to put you in touch with a celebrity” thing? LMAO…never heard that one!

        • Miss Alicat
          July 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM

          He talked about it in a TH a while back (maybe last season???), and I think Fame did an entry on it back when I was a lurker and not a commenter. I thought it was ridiculous. I mean really, what “famous” people do they know other than other Bravo-lebrities? Just because one of the Jonas brothers looked at your house (but also didn’t buy it) doesn’t mean you “know” a celebrity.

          • Kathy
            July 20, 2013 at 10:30 PM

            They probably think the Manzos are celebrities. (The Manzos certainly think they are.) The Whorgas could book meet-ups with Caro and her idle brood because it’s pretty clear that none of them have anything better to do and all of them have lots of time on their hands.

          • July 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM

            That is just hilarious. I’m sure I have seen it but have just totally forgotten. This getting old stuff is for the birds!

          • July 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM


      • Dianna
        July 20, 2013 at 6:53 PM

        Hey how about Melissa’s champagne. Whatever happened to that?

        • Dianna
          July 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM

          Looked up Melissa’s champagne. Looks like the 2 men that created it chose Carrie Keagan as their celebrity.

          • July 20, 2013 at 8:16 PM

            LMAO! I absolutely LOVE IT! Someone should tweet her asking about it… lol I don’t tweet and I won’t tweet because I don’t trust myself… lol

            • Dianna
              July 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM

              I don’t do twitter but I thought it would be interesting to see when Carrie Keagan was offered the spokesperson job. I’m just mosey that way!

              • Dianna
                July 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

                Nosey. Autocorrect blah!!!!

      • charok
        July 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM

        o….m….g!!! id almost bet what little $ i got that is what poison and missy will venture into next!! ( xxx flicks!!) not THAT far of a stretch for them, and hey if they get paid $$ for it, even better!!!

  18. jersey
    July 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    As I stated before, the best think the public can do is boycott Missy’s book.

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM

      i sure wont buy it!!! how in the heck can she give advice on marriage only 8 years in, not to mention the disrupting the gorga family and lets not even go there with the cheating allegations ( and rumor mill buzz saying the youngest son may not even be poison joes?) thanks but no thanks missy..boy cott her music and book. when i hear her tag line ( sexy life loyal wife take a page from my book) i just want to vomit

    • July 20, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      This is written in the stars. The teens who worship her will spend their allowance on nail polish and lipstick.

      • July 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM

        The teens who worship her don’t read.

    • July 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

      The thought NEVER entered my mind. I wouldn’t even borrow it to read it. *shivers*

    • July 21, 2013 at 12:02 AM

      I still say one of us needs to take one for the team so we can all get a good laugh over it.

      Also, as giddy as we all are over the shoe polish hair, can you imagine how funny it had to be when Juicy figured out what all the black crap was?

      • Miss Alicat
        July 21, 2013 at 11:52 AM

        It’ll be on Amazon, and they usually offer the first chapter for free. Not sure I’ll be able to get past the first page, never mind the whole first chapter.

        How do you keep your marriage “hot” for baby Joe, Melissa? “I impersonate my SIL.”

        Ok, I just kinda threw up in my mouth a little writing that. ICK!!!

        • July 21, 2013 at 3:02 PM

          This makes me think of the time TB impersonated Teresa with a wig and dress on. Now that we know he has sex with his wife when he is mad at Teresa, this costume may be for when his wife is not available and it is just him as Tarzan. Ya poison takes on a different meaning now.

          • July 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM

            Oh gross Kimberly!!! Thanks for putting that image in my head 😀

        • July 21, 2013 at 6:15 PM

          Ick is right! I still might be the one to purchase it on the Kindle. Or, heck, maybe a better idea would be to spend an afternoon at Barnes and Noble taking notes so I wouldn’t have to spend my money on such pure crap. Hmmm…maybe we could all have a cyber Barnes and Noble book club type of day 😀

  19. anastasia
    July 20, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    I appreciate that Bravo helpfully released the first look clip in plenty of time for us all to analyze it like the Zapruder film. Now that it has been transcribed and screencapped multiple places, everyone should be clear on who did what. Kudos to everyone here for all the hard work!

    I am appalled that Kathy and Rosie STILL side against the Giudices. And that is a shame, because Rosie is showing some potential when she is being nice & levelheaded, and her scenes with Juicy Joe on the Bravo website are gold. Kathy might even be salvageable if she would lose her sleazy, shit-stirring albatross (Rich).

    Yes, when TSIL and Tar Baby get their divorce they will blame Teresa.

    • July 20, 2013 at 6:55 PM

      Only 50+ million people have viewed it on UTube–Kanye West time: “Now I ain’t sayin’ she a gold digger (she is) but she ain’t messin’ with no broke n***** (she is)”

      Git down girl, go ‘head git down.


      As far as I can tell, that’s her storyline.

      • Miss Alicat
        July 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM

        Should be her theme music, lol

      • July 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM

        I love that song.

    • Kathy
      July 20, 2013 at 10:33 PM

      “Analyze it like the Zapruder film”! LMAO!

    • July 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM

      I have wondered why they released that so early, even before the first look. I know partly for ratings, but can’t accept that was the only reason. They had to know we would all analyze it. I wish I was a fly on the wall at the Gorgas these past few weeks!

      Regarding Rosie, I didn’t necessarily see her as taking sides yet. I could be wrong, but I think she was just describing what SHE saw Juicy doing which was charging in there. She didn’t see or hear what was said when he got in there — she was busy finding a place to set Juicy’s drink down. Not that I believe he was looking for a fight or didn’t do the right thing by demanding an apology. Juicy, you can tell, has had it up to here with them treating Teresa like they have. Rosie DID say it was all going to be bad…she knew the attitude that Joey and Melissa had towards the whole thing and towards the Giudices. She listened to it all the way up there. I think Rosie maybe, just maybe, might be starting to realize what is really up.

      Regarding Kathy…has there been a consensus as to who the hell she was talking about when she said “he didn’t do anything” and “he was just trying to help”? I assume it was Rich the Bitch, but nothing had been said about Rich (probably edited out if so).

    • lilliaG
      July 22, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      “Tar Baby?” Lolololololololol! Can I steal that?? 😀

  20. July 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Those still shots were great! In the very last one of TSIL putting Baby Joey’s has back on, you can clearly see his receding hair line. All of the spray on hair had rubbed off! Does anyone know when, exactly, Baby Joey shaved his head?

    • anastasia
      July 20, 2013 at 6:21 PM

      OMG good catch! In the last picture you can totally see that all his “hair” to the front is gone!

      The rest of the season will be interesting. I don’t know where Bravo can go with this cast. The Kumbaya storyline is obvious BS at this point, with TSIL’s ongoing real-time campaign against Teresa and her family.

      I agree, TSIL &Tar Baby have not hit rock bottom yet. Their hatred toward the Giudices is still out in full force and knows no bounds.

      I would not be surprised if at some point they try to extend their 15 minutes by releasing a “stolen” sex tape, thinking it will work out like it did for Kim Kardashian.

      Anyone have any idea whether we will see the fight with JTG? Have all the legalities on that been settled yet, criminally and/or civilly?

      • July 21, 2013 at 8:08 AM

        If they want to go the sex tape route to fame they would have to lose the fans they collected with the Angel of God theme. I learned many years ago that people pretend to be Christians if they can use it as a weapon against you. The wife of the man who molested me said God was going to get me for what I done to her. It is spiritual abuse.

        • elemcee
          July 21, 2013 at 1:17 PM

          Oh my gosh Kimberly, how awful. I hope you never believed that psycho bitch from hell when she said that to you. If someone had said that to me until I was about 13, I would have believed them and not been able to sleep at night. I am so sorry that two obviously very sick people were allowed to abuse you like that.

          • July 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

            Unfortunately I did believe her. She is blood but I totally cut myself off from her and our family is broken. With love and support from friends, I broke away. Now I have a husband and children who don’t let anyone cross the line with me. I went to a Christian therapist and now enjoy a healthy relationship with God. I have read enough of the bible to come out swinging when people start using scripture as a weapon.

            • July 21, 2013 at 6:29 PM

              Congratulations on overcoming all of that Kimberly. I can’t imagine…

        • Cee_See
          July 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM

          *This post maybe crude and sexually explicit! I apologize in advance* Ok, I was thinking the tar headed couple would release a sex tape some day soon but now IDK since Tb is so insecure about his receding hairline? I once read an online article 1 or 2 years ago about Tb and Tsil. In the comment section two different women claim to have had affairs with Tb. Both women claimed that Tb had a pretty small manhood! I remember when the Gorga’s shared an RV with the Giudice’s and Tb was naked and Juicy commented that his penis was small. I remember Tb commented about what Juicy just said in a TH and Tb said (paraphrasing) “I was taught to be proud of what you have!”. So, if a sex tape is released I’m sure it’ll be a laughing stock with people making fun of how itty bitty he is! The thought of a sex tape with Tsil and Tb is repulsive! Yuck!

    • July 20, 2013 at 7:20 PM

      Check his twitter, go to the pictures.. He re-tweeted a picture Lysa sent him about his new summer hair on June 2, 2013.


      • Saddle_River_NJ
        July 21, 2013 at 12:04 AM

        *snort* Summer haircut my ass. How did his hairline now mysteriously move 4 inches back on his head? Compare where it has been in his talking heads verses his “summer cut”. A cut changes your hair length not hairline…

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM

      It is curious as to why it isn’t at least smeared on his forehead.

  21. Hair club by bravo!
    July 20, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Word on the curb is the gorgas tried to force bravo to remove the hair scene and when they refused… The nasty Marco sisters threatened Andy Cohen and BRAVO on twitter. LOL

    I also wanted to point out Gorga made sure he was far away from Giudice before he started trash talking after the fight. It’s also interesting that security was only concerned with keeping Giudice covered. Wonder why? Maybe they know gorga is nothing but talk and giudice doesnt play the dramatics ? haha He is standing there talking trash with only his wife “Holding him back” All the security, Rosie, richy, Kathy, all crowded near giudice to ensure he doesn’t get lose. They arent worried about joe gorga attacking? That was enough evidence to prove joe gorga is a little bitch that runs his mouth and talks big shit when he knows the fight will be broken up.

    Joe gorga is completely controlled by Melissa. He’s a little bitch.

    • Kathy
      July 20, 2013 at 11:41 PM

      The Marco gang may have overplayed their hand by threatening Cohen and Bravo. I wonder what they thought they could threaten them with? It seems to me that Bravo potentially has far more shit it could unleash on TSIL and her sisters than they could unleash on Bravo and Cohen.

      • July 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM

        If they wouldn’t hold back on the C U next Tuesday phone call, they sure weren’t going to cut an incident that actually makes Teresa fans happy.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      July 21, 2013 at 12:13 AM

      Hmmm, if they piss off Miss Cohen too much he might have the balance of the season edited in a way to give the middle finger to Missy and the Tar Baby… Not a good idea to piss off a bitchy queen with an ego

      • July 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        Plus, I don’t think Andy finds bald men very sexy. His infatuation with Joey may be coming to an end. He probably sees him for the baby baboon that he is.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 21, 2013 at 7:50 AM

      Hi Hair club by Bravo! Your handle is a hoot! 😉

      I find it PATHETIC if the “black shoe polish” scene is what the Whorgas wanted edited out and Lysa went on a rampage against Bravo is true. If you go back and read her deleted tweets they are pretty confrontational – all because of the fear TB’s balding head would be “exposed”??

      I would think they all would be more worried about real issues, such as TSIL’s past coming to light; their deceased father being exposed as an alcoholic/addict and philanderer; TB’s violent behavior; oh, there is so much more to choose from.

      So because of TB’s “HairInACanGate”, Lysa threatens the Whorgas’ only source of income by threatening TSIL’s boss. Lysa forgot that she is on TSIL’s payroll – she has admitted it on Twitter and TSILneeeds that income to pay her. Those tweets were deleted pretty damn fast so I would bet TSIL read her the riot act. Lysa not only dug her own grave; she threw the last piece of dirt over it.


      Like I said – PATHETIC!!

      • Jeannie5233
        July 21, 2013 at 8:34 AM

        I’ve been thinking about this and while it is very plausible the Whorgas were upset about HairInACanGate and didn’t want it to air because TB is so self-absorbed and obsessed with physical looks (not just his own but his wife’s as well – remember he watched what she ate while she was pregnant and told her she was a “little thick”), here is another theory; and why Lysa sent those tweets.

        Those tweets were sent out a few days after the JTG beating. Given that TB, once again, initiated a physical fight, causing mayhem and damaging Bravo’s storyline, It is possible Bravo called the Whorgas in, sat them down and told them that they had better tow the line, clean up their act and behave; otherwise, they would be either fired and/or sued themselves. Lysa got wind of it and blew a gasket.

        • Hair club by bravo!
          July 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM

          Your theory makes sense too. The Marco hos have been tame this season. Reeling in their usual tirades on twitter, blogs and leaked stories. Regardless of what caused them to do what they did. They are finally being revealed for the trash they truly are. I’m personally enjoying it. I feel bad for Teresa having to go through this but it’s so satisfying to see Melissa and her Marco hooker gang get whats coming to them. 🙂

  22. July 20, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Off topic here, but Meho is supposable at a swimsuit place in Miami today. Well the rain is coming so I hope if she has any shoe polish on, it doesn’t wash off. BTW, what a mom. Last night at a concert and today in Miami……one of these days the babysitter is gonna say “I know what you did last summer”…..bawhahwhahwha. I asked my husband if we could go(of course I had to explain) and then he said “oh you mean the STRIPPER”? I’m still cleaning off my screen *.*

    • July 20, 2013 at 7:28 PM

      Shoebuyer, I think I have a crush on your hubby!!! That is hilarious. Keep us posted if you go.

    • corky21
      July 20, 2013 at 10:57 PM

      My husband’s daughter was at that concert and took a picture with Melissa. I told him she’s not allowed in our house now that she stood with the enemy, LOL. Although she did say that Melissa was dancing in her seat and that she wasn’t very good.

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:42 AM

      Swimweek 2013 is a freaking joke. Nobody attends it as it is Miami in the summer, it’s not even mentioned in the Miami Herald today or this week, AND people are showing their fall lines in the fashion industry. Somebody must have paid for their tickets so that she would send out a tweet or wear one of their bikinis in her US Magazine paid disinfomercials. Epic loser.

  23. MurfsGirl
    July 20, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    TSIL posted a picture of herself backstage at the TJ/JZ concert last night. She’s standing outside the “JT Family” door. My first thought was the door is shut and she’s standing alone on the other side…yikes, groupie girl, find another hobby!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 20, 2013 at 7:28 PM

      Johnny Wright is JT’s manager and hers as well so maybe she thinks that makes her part of the “JT Family”.

      • MurfsGirl
        July 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM

        So, they should have let her in, right? No pics with JT were posted. I’m beginning to feel sorry for her (NO!)…desperation is NOT an attractive look.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM

          LOL! TSIL is desperate for anything that will give her “exposure” 😉

          • MurfsGirl
            July 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM

            hahaha, Jeanie! Good one!

        • July 20, 2013 at 8:11 PM

          Backstage passes really aren’t that big of a deal nowadays. If you know the right the person you can get one, you can buy them and win them on the radio. Just saying.

          • July 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM

            I had a friend that got them quite a few times back in the ’70s, early ’80s. I honestly don’t know how she got ’em but she got ’em. She was always a doll and didn’t see her for a while but when I first saw her again at our 20th reunion recently (NOT) she looks so much like Heather Locklear. She got a nose job and it really transformed her though she was very pretty prior. She’s gorgeous but very humble. When I told her I thought she looked like Heather Locklear she kinda just smiled but another friend there said that she was told that all night long. She herself would have never said that to me though. You know… she’s the total opposite of TSIL and she’s better looking too, even if she is almost 20 years older.

          • July 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM

            Or Bravo which is owned by NBC can get them for you. Or you can just pay for them. They used to be a big deal, now they are just part of the money-making process of putting on a concert.

      • July 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM

        You do realize that you have to pay a music manager big bucks. He is taking her money and laughing all the way to the bank. How long before this house of cards comes crashing down? How can Joey afford all of this? He is investing at least half a million in her a year and getting nothing in return. How long can he keep this up? She didn’t get picked up by a label, so she has to have an expensive music manager. The only problem, Melissa Gorga is that you can’t sing, and you are too old to become a pop sensation. So far she has had one gig. Loser day at a Fourth of July celebration in Orlando. Her “act” is pitiful and looks very homemade. On some level, people are taking advantage of her and her mentally challenged husband. Which is what they deserve.

        • lilliaG
          July 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM

          The whole popstar project will implode soon enough. It was doomed from the start. As you wrote, Mel is 10-15 years pst the prime for breaking in this biz. It’s a world for the young, that’s for sure. And, she really cannot sing.

  24. liltshoe
    July 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Wonder if Juicy will get a TH in the next episode to give his side of the story. I’d really like to hear it. I know he does not do them, but if housewifey whittle joey is given the chance to explain his side, why not give Juicy the same chance?

    • July 20, 2013 at 8:15 PM

      I do not think he’d do it, but ya never know.

      • charok
        July 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

        i think either juicy wont do it or mainly andy wont give juicy a TH to give him his side of the story…me thinks andy doesnt care much for juicy- why would andy want to give juicy a chance to give his side of the story?

      • July 21, 2013 at 6:36 PM

        I’m with you Jules…it would be GREAT if he did, but wouldn’t think it would be wise for him to. Juicy knows that he’s not very good at editing his thoughts and words and is very hip to the Bravo editing game, IMO.

  25. pjbottoms
    July 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    In this video (filmed when Melissa first started the show), Melissa says there is no footage of her being an evil sister in law! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AbUUJrurKU&sns=em

    • Jeannie5233
      July 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM

      Thanks pjbottoms!!! What a great find! I could comment on so much of this but I will just start out with how funny she says she was best dressed in high school. And she loves clothes and has always loved clothes. Wonder how Love Majewski feels about the days when TSIL raided her closet on a regular basis and “borrowed” her clothes.

      • July 20, 2013 at 8:04 PM

        Who brags about something like that? Back in high school the only nice clothes she wore were those she shoplifted!

      • MurfsGirl
        July 20, 2013 at 8:06 PM

        It also explains the shoplifting charges!

      • Jeannie5233
        July 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

        There is so much more to this video – everyone should watch it. Amazing that even back then, she projected herself as the mediator, as well as the “victim”. Always the victim. I would love someone to show that clip to TSIL and see what her reaction to it would be in present day.

        TB calls her “Little Miss Everything” and that she is. Everything you never want to be.

    • GonadGobbler
      July 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM

      Wow, her nose looks so different.. looks much better in this video.

  26. Isolde
    July 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Fame, once again thank you for all your hard work and time on this blog. The still shots are great and show it all; hands were never on her husband trying to pull him out of the hold, but were always on Joe Giudice, attacking him. Who does that?? What grown woman physically attacks a man like that–that is the definition of “disgusting”!!

    Also, I give a lot of credit to Joe Giudice, because he basically put Gorga in a headlock hold, instead of trying to punch him and hurt him. Had Gorga not charged Joe to fight him, I wonder how the conversation would have played out–Giudice demanding an apology for his wife (which she was entitled to), and then instead of the charge by Gorga, what would the conversation have been, if Gorga conducted himself like a mature, rational man. He bounces from blaming his sister for his anger to his brother-in-law (bottled up for 10 years, why bottled up, he has been running his mouth and attacking both Teresa and Joe on several occasions). I abhor violence, but at this point, I wish no one would have intervened, and the two would have fought it out, as I feel Gorga is the one who needs to be taken down a few notches.

    Jeannie, thanks for the posts both about the magazine article and the behavior post fight, as it shows the personality and maturity differences between these two couples. The Giudices discuss the fight more calmly, while the Gorgas are still bitching and bashing the Giudices. This just shows me that Teresa has always been genuine about reconciliation, and the Gorgas cannot get past their jealousy and anger, and do not want a loving relationship or peace. I think whatever we see unfold in upcoming episodes will be genuine on Teresa’s part, but an act from the Gorgas. The US Weekly article proves it, as TSIL did not have to do it, if they are truly in a good place. If you now have peace and want to keep it, then you don’t participate in bringing up the past, or try to justify your actions and place blame on the other person. You state that you have moved on and put it all behind you, and you are determined to keep it that way. TSIL will never stop being jealous or hating Teresa, and therefore will always egg her husband on to turn on his family. IF YOU REALLY LOVE YOUR SPOUSE, YOU WOULD DO WHATEVER NECESSARY FOR HIM TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FAMILY. That is what a real marriage is–it is helping to maintain the peace and love with your in-laws.despite your differences. TSIL is not capable of that, and has no business writing a marriage advice book.

    • July 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM

      Great post. I agree with everything you said including that TSIL would never do an article saying those things if they were truly in a good place. Especially since T actually DID get up and leave! Who does that? She outright says T should have got up and left and she’s mad about that yet we know darn well TSIL DID know that T got up and left. How can ANYONE like this wench? Everything she says is a friggin lie.

      I knew they weren’t in a good place when TSIL very first blog was all negative including her complaining about T talking badly about her in front of her kids. Yet she mentioned NOTHING about Milania saying to T that she loves… and she named TSIL, TB and the kids, except for the youngest which just proves the damage being done by them not seeing their cousins.

      Taylor Armstrong was the most evil, lying, repulsive RH IMO for a very long time… actually, until now. And trust me that’s saying A LOT! (I still think Taylor is evil and actually has the potential to be dangerous… just want to make that clear. She’s not at the forefront any longer but she’s not in my sight either… I still believe she has a bad core and not only will never change, but is not capable of change. JMO)

    • Jeannie5233
      July 20, 2013 at 9:18 PM

      Oh Isolde – there is nothing more to add to this – you have said it all – as usual. Love your in-depth comments. You always put all of our thoughts together succinctly. 🙂

      • Isolde
        July 21, 2013 at 12:21 AM

        Thanks Jeannie, but I want to also credit your posts, research and commentary that always reveal so much information and details making it possible for us to comment intelligently. Sorry that sometimes my comments are long, but like most of you, these idiots bring out such frustration with their behavior and lies, that it is difficult to cover all the lunacy in a couple of sentences.

        I would also like to address Fame and so many of the regulars who have a lot going on in their lives. I don’t always take the time to comment on here how much I am thinking of so many of you and your problems or troubles, but I do think and pray for you all that I see are having a difficult time. This site has become quite a family of sorts with so many kind people on here, and even if I don’t write it, I do pray for all of you who ask for our prayers, and am so glad when I see that things are going better for many of you. I wish you all nothing but the best and may God bless and keep each and everyone of you and your families. May your problems be small and your blessings many.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

          This coming from you Isolde means a lot to me. I have always respected you and your opinion 🙂

  27. jeannie NJ
    July 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    I say- we boycott USWeekly and TSIL’s book ( not that I have any interest whatsoever in advice from a short term, somewhat violent, prolly unfaithful wife of a steroid using raging little man). I am fed up with these “polls” at USWeekly and WWHL- they cannot possibly be an accurate reflection of America’s opinion.
    Let them get a honest reflection of our opinion and hit them in their wallets- no books, mags, downloads (why want to hear her songs, other than a form of punishment ???) and see what happens.

    • charok
      July 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM

      radar online seems to be very pro gorga too…but on occasion you do see the posters comment with very anti gorga/missy comments, but unfortunately it is mainly anti tre comments 😦

  28. MurfsGirl
    July 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    T is moving on and UP in the world without the Bravo back-brace. TSIL and all the others on the show are constantly scrambling for relevance. I believe most will self-destruct, because they seriously think they are grander than we perceive them…so, buh-bye Melissa, Caroline, Jacqueline and Kathy.

    • July 20, 2013 at 10:35 PM

      Jac will explode first, her fuse has been lit. She spends an hour and half on the phone with Kim D. every morning? Ya they are not talking about autism

      • Miss Alicat
        July 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM

        Kim D is RHONJ’s version of Clairee Belcher from Steel Magnolias … “If you don’t have anything nice to say about anybody, come sit by me (or come shop in my ’boutique’).”

  29. NinaK
    July 20, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    I think TSIL is starting to implode and grasping at straws at this point. Pointing fingers, placing blame, hurling insults left and right… anything to stay relevant. She’s not even making the least bit of sense.

    Loved the panic in her eyes when she ran across the room with TB’s hat.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM

      Hope your little boys are getting a little better every day. And, I hope their mama is taking care of herself too 🙂

      • NinaK
        July 20, 2013 at 9:28 PM

        Oh my goodness, you are truly a kind-hearted, compassionate, and just amazing person! Yes they are doing better, thank you for remembering and thank you for asking.

        I know you are going through a lot yourself and though you prefer not to talk about it very much, please know that I think of you and your mother often and wish the best for your whole family as you work through this difficult time. xoxo

  30. windycitywondering2
    July 20, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    ITA = Fame you rock!

    Double standard time – TSIL will say that she had no control over what the magazines say and/or the title they use and/or I got paid for the covers and/or I may as well talk to them or they will just make something up….but Teresa got nailed to the wall for the exact same thing just last season.

    • charok
      July 20, 2013 at 11:21 PM

      yup i remember esp towards end of last season jackie and missy esp were ragging on tre for doing magazine covers/stories,ect….but yet after that i see missy all over them magazines, us magazine esp. i even got the one ( i’d have to dig for it now) where missy claims juicy tried to come on to her.

    • Stefanie
      July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

      I agree with you. It has always been a double standard. Teresa gets criticized and called out for the same things that the other housewives also do. I think this is one of the many reasons that so many fans have taken Teresa’s side. They see the hypocrisy of these women. They see that Teresa really hasn’t done anything wrong except be more successful than these women. I admire Teresa for pulling her family out of the financial mess that they ended up in. She could have given up and just faded into the background but she saw an opportunity to turn things around and make money. She took a gamble and it paid off.

      • charok
        July 21, 2013 at 12:08 PM

        and more importantly stepfanie, tre did it the legit, legal way! no slinging drugs, or theft or anything like that. she got them out of their finance problems the legit legal way, and can sleep at night 🙂

  31. mktgdrivethru
    July 21, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    I’ve noticed that since these videos and stills were shown the usual TSIL defenders, here and on other blogs, have been very quiet. I’m guessing because the camera don’t lie. It’s not like a comment or tweet that can be subject to interpretation. Finally the perfect comeback to these misguided fools: Let’s go to the videotape!

  32. surfergirl
    July 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Joe Gorga’s entire mentality is that “I’m a man.” That means regardless of his own (and Melissa’s) culpability in this split within the family, Teresa should automatically kowtow to him no matter what. He’s a misogynist through and through, and like all misogynist men he’s completely clueless as to what being a man actually entails. The way he treats his wife, the way he treats his sister, the way he likely treats his mother who probably still feeds into his sense of entitlement as not only the youngest child but also the male (come on Italian families, get it together!) is textbook. He’s pathetic and weak but not sad enough to pity so I can only despise him at this point. All those muscles, all that rage yet even his own wife knows that he could never win in a fight despite him be the one to start it. She can’t go anywhere without him coming along because it’s far more important to keep an eye on her than it is to stay home making the money that they so desperately need. I don’t believe in the whole ‘the man brings home the bacon’ archaic attitude but he does so why isn’t he working his ass off or at least staying home to take care of the kids thereby contributing in some meaningful way instead of being a constant fifth wheel? And if he’s such a man and is so confident that he owns Melissa then why is he so worried about her being around other people, especially men, to the point of building a busted up studio downstairs? Why so much public sex talk and forced PDA? Does a real man have to publicly prove this much that he’s getting laid if it’s actually happening as often as he says it is? Of course the most obvious way that he’s not the big man he tries to be is how easily manipulated he is by everyone around him which is why Messy tries so hard to isolate him from the people that could force him to open his eyes. He’s all bark and no bite because deep down inside he knows he’s a spineless little punk so all his talk is just as much to convince himself as it is to convince others. They came on the show to take Teresa down but my guess is it’s the world that will be taking these two down along with the useless Bug Eyes and Buck Teeth now that they’ve all shown their true colors. And Buck Teeth needs to seriously STFU because next time I’m visiting my mother in Jersey and I see his ass again he’s getting hit with the SUV. It’s getting more and more obvious that he hit on Teresa at one time, she turned him down and probably told someone else in the family which eventually got back to Kathy. Seriously Kathy, he doesn’t respect you. Get some some self worth and divorce his ugly lecherous ass. There’s no excusing his disrespectful behavior towards you. Joe Giudice uttered an ugly word about his wife but he doesn’t seem threatened at all by Teresa’s success, however, both Joe Baby and Buck Teeth are absolutely vile to their wives on a regular basis and other women around them in general. I hate that Andy and so much of the audience won’t see the bigger picture and instead focuses only on the C-word. I’ll Juicy’s crankiness over the others’ emotional abuse any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

    • Debbie J
      July 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      Surfergirl – Very well put!!! I agree I’ll take Juicy Joe over Shoe polish Joe any day as well.

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM

      Wow, I love this comment!

    • Confused
      July 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM

      Surfergirl — Bravo. if I wasn’t so slow in typing I wouldn’t have commented below. We agree, he’s a putz + many other things…..

    • charok
      July 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      spot on!!!! especially richie disrespects kathy? smells like fish? he has fantasies about missy?? wth?? everyone wants to scream about juicy slipping the c word ( which again i DONT advocate, but he said it under his breath vs directly calling it to tre) but no richie especially says he fantasies about missy right in front of kat!!! where’s the cries of foul on this???

    • Aint Pittypat
      July 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM

      If the Gorgas were.as happy in their relationship with each other , sexually,.emotionally and were friends as well as lovers as they incessantly proclaim there wouldn’t be this thirst for drama. Drama, discontent and anger rules the Gorga household. Joe Gorga and Melissa simply are not happy as man and wife. After 8 years they should have reached some level of stability and contentment. Instead we see Melissa’s obsession with her sister in law and her own faded youth. The Gorga children are still very young and in need of mothering yet it seems Melissa is still focused on being one of the cool kids. I truly think the heart of the matter is jealous over her sister in law Teresa who manages motherhood , a demanding career and a very happy marriage all with great success. That cold sterile barely furnished dream home is also symptomatic of the Gorga marriage. The faux relationship, faux marriage, faux home ,IMo, is the Gorga unhappiness “OnDisplay” ,” On Display”

      • Confused
        July 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

        Another great comment. They should be enjoying their children and nurturing a great family dynamic right now. Ya know, things like enjoying each other’s company, growing a real career or business (not a fly-by-night business like MG fake persona). I always found the kids need more attention when they reach school age than they did when they were babies and tots. This is when they become more needy of your love and guidance. Babies love anyone who gives it to them, young children search out their parents. Can’t do that when you’re out of town 6 days a week and out partying at nights. Priorities, priorities, priorities.

      • July 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM

        I really do believe that if a richer guy with more hair and who could make her famous came along she would dump Joey like a hot potato. She figures she could easily get away with it by proclaiming that she can no longer be a part of Joey’s family because they are so evil. I am convinced of this.

        • NinaK
          July 21, 2013 at 3:39 PM

          I can totally see this happening!

          • charok
            July 21, 2013 at 10:28 PM

            me too!!!

  33. July 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Fame, Isolde and Jeannie you are always spot on in your posts and comments. I wonder when the interview with TSIL was done? Perhaps it was done before she knew what a bad edit she would be receiving for the fight scene. Now she looks even more ridiculous with what she is spewing.

    Hair Club By Bravo and Baby Ball Muncher, will the laughter never end. These are great contenders for the title of the TB and TSIL’s spinoff show. Heck, Jac seems obsessed with bleaching and waxing, she could be a part of this spinoff also.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 21, 2013 at 2:51 PM

      Moma – and so are you as well as everyone else here with a couple of exceptions! Love to my Fame-bily!

  34. July 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Look what I found Teresa and Joe have a new baby girl, Stella.

    • Anonymous
      July 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM

      Oh, what a cute little dog.I love German Shepherds. I had one when I was a little girl. Charlie was and still one of my favorite pets that I ever had.

    • Rachel
      July 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM

      momma: I hope T is ready for a whole lotta shedding lol. German “Shedders” are a lot of work! My husband and I adopted a pup from the SPCA who is German Shepherd mix and -well we think Lab cause of his webbed paws- and boy does he shed. I vacuum twice a day, everyday! Hope she is ready lol…But you can tell the dog is gonna be huge because of her paws!

      Anybody else feel for Juicy? Poor man with so many women in his house!!! My dad had waay too many women in his house and he got a boy dog. LOL! Juicy’s lucky!

      • July 21, 2013 at 12:00 PM

        I can attest to that. My last dog was a White German Shepard, and if you don’t want your house to smell like dog or have hair all over it you have to vacuum constantly. I ended up throwing out my back. Best dog ever, though. You will notice that my new dog was purchased from many reasons, personality, etc. But one of the reasons was because they don’t shed. (Goldendoodle) By the way, somebody suggested that since I have a picture of my dog as an avatar I must be a dog in real life. I may have to change my picture.

        • Rachel
          July 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

          I had an old english sheepdog and he barely shed, now I can understand why my mom said no the billions of times I asked her for a german shepherd. lol

        • elemcee
          July 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM

          Gessie, I like dogs better than most people, so I do not know that I would consider that an insult… And your baby is beautiful!

          • July 21, 2013 at 3:08 PM

            Thank you Ellie. I like dogs better than most people, too!

        • July 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM

          Gessie, same here with the choice of non-shedding dogs. I have two little Havanese boys, Cooper and Bentley (BooBoo). I’m a clean freak and I STILL find hair from my last dog (Schipperke) nearly 6 years later.

    • elemcee
      July 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

      Juicy has lost weight! And, how beautiful is Gia?! Her eyes are so gorgeous.

      • charok
        July 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM

        it does look like juicy has indeed lost some weight. i agree with you on gia, she has such striking eyes. she will grow into a beautiful young lady, all of the girls will really.

    • July 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      Damn, my Juicy is looking pretty hot here!!!!! Stella and Gia are too cute!!

      • Happy Holly Daze
        July 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

        Back off Princess… He’s mine….. *quiver*

  35. Stefanie
    July 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    You can really see the hate on Melissa’s face.

  36. Confused
    July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Since Bravo/Andy love to take a stand for the LGTB community (which is great) and call people out for their ignorant comments, I’d like to call them out in reference to Domestic Violence (of which I know a little about since I was a victim once). While Juicy’s unfortunate choice to use the *C* word could be interpreted as abusive, I’d like to address Joey’s behavior.

    1. When you compare Juicy’s conversation with Rosie (talking about how he’s making an effort to control his anger, but was worried that he might explode) with that of Joey’s TH where he said he would take any opportunity to bust Juicy…………..that clearly shows his rage and his inability to resolve his anger without the use of physical force — I’m going to tell you what the truth is and you’re not only going to listen, but your’e going to see it my way. What grown man with a family gets into fights, let alone more than one?

    2. He follows his wife everywhere, appears to have an unnatural attachment to her. It comes off as he doesn’t trust her and treats her like his property.

    3. He appears to be oversexed. He shows inappropriate behavior as it relates to sex and sexuality (remember the video of his child he so proudly posted? I have sex with my wife when I’m mad at my sister)

    4. He believes that his outbursts are sexy and manly

    5. He blames others for issues with his personal relationships. I behave this way, because you….or because you didn’t do….

    6. He has shoved his own wife and others out of the way when engaging in fights. Has no self control.

    While Joey Marco may never lay a hand on a woman, he could simply be a “silent abuser.” and bully people in his personal relationships. IMHO there are too many warning signs and for Bravo to glamorize this behavior is beyond belief.

    • July 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM

      Ya wake up Andy, what you see as an asset and support in one area, has become a black eye for your reputation and a liabilty. I hope you don’t say “I had no idea it would come to this” AFTER something very bad happens

    • surfergirl
      July 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM

      It all goes back to that moment at the bookstore signing for me. He completely humiliated Teresa. She was emotional, in tears, breaking inside and he showed nothing but smug satisfaction at her pain. Emotionally abusive to the core. He will never accept any apology, and there have been plenty, and he will never work to make things better (for real, not just for the cameras) because he wants to hurt Teresa because he’s hurting since he’s unhappy. He wants to inflict that upon her because if he can’t be happy then she can’t. He’s sick. That’s why when she asks “what did I do?”, he has nothing to say. Everything that she did do, that they listed, she’s apologized for a dozen times at least so what else is there? Nothing but I sick sick mind and a cold cold heart.

      • Confused
        July 21, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        It sure does. What mini muncher did was really mean and despicable — that deserves a shame on you!

      • July 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM

        Ya that made me cry

      • July 21, 2013 at 6:55 PM

        I agree about the bookstore signing…that was hard to watch. That sealed the deal for me as well. I’m really going to have a hard time seeing Teresa break down again as we saw in the photo with Joey (I believe) hugging her.

  37. Rachel
    July 21, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    You guys I have a confession to make. I have been going to the gym for about 3 months everyday in my hopes to stay in shape. It turns out that once your body hits 20 it “lets go” if you let go. Anyways, I have been taking “pre-workout” which my husband bought but never used and I thought I’d give it a try. What the “pre-workout” supplement does is basically build your endurance, pump you up and focus, basically makes you “beast.” Well for the last couple of months I have found that I have been getting extremely mad at the stupidest things, and when I say extremely mad I mean violent. The only time that I feel “ok” is at the gym lifting some weights. I finally came to my husband and talked to him about my rage and we think it might be the pre workout + stress I might be experiencing, we decided to try and find help for my rage -while my mom is a psychologist I refuse to go to her! LOL. Anyways, the reason why I am telling you guys this is because I wonder if this is what Fredo is going through, rage due to stuff he takes for working out, maybe not steroids but supplements with added on stress.

    • Confused
      July 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

      Let me tell you a little bit about those supplements. Some, like DHEA, which are over-the-counter, is actually a base compound for the manufacture of steroids. The problem is, when you take them, you never know how your body is going to process them, some peoples body may turn it into testosterone while others may turn it estrogen or progesterone. (Source: my dad was one of the firsts Chemists to actually work on and perfect the birth control pill).

      • Rachel
        July 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM

        I did not know that Confused! Thanks so much! I looked up the specific brand that I use and many people have said that they’ve had increased aggression since taking it. My husband told me about the testosterone and I felt horrible “Am I turning into a man?” was my question as I cried. I have got to stop taking it and try to find something natural. And WOAH we need to thank your dad! That is way awesome!

        • Confused
          July 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

          You’re welcome, I was absolutely shocked when he explained it to me…….it’s quite scary and frankly they shouldn’t be allowed to sell the stuff because of what it can do to people. Cleanse your body with a lot of fluids and some good old fashion work outs (walking is good too).

          • Rachel
            July 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

            it is not know what you are putting in your body

    • July 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

      Wait until you get into your late 50’s if you think you are having problems with your body now. Seriously, I am in my late 50’s, I have never had an operation nor am I on any prescription drugs or supplements. And if God is willing I hope it stays that way. I stay away from soft drinks and drink only water, tea or wine. I stay away from as much processed foods as is humanly possible (I do not churn my butter nor have a cow in the back yard) and I walk at least 1 mile a day. Your diet really plays a huge part in how you feel, mentally and physically. Please get off of those supplements.

      • Confused
        July 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        🙂 Fifties are the new 40’s…..I’m in my mid 50’s, but still think that I’m in my 30’s. I couldn’t agree more with you about diet. It’s the easiest way to looking and feeling great. (Except for tonight, I’m making Mr. B’s barbeque shrimp — calories galore, but ooh so tasty!)

        • Dianna
          July 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM

          So jealous. BBQ shrimp. Have you ever had it from pascals manale? I dream about it!

          • Confused
            July 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM

            Diane, no I have not had theirs, but googled it for a recipe…..looks scrumptious as well. I didn’t get to make it last night, but will try again this evening. I think that I’m going to meld the two recipes together.

            p.s. I know exactly what you mean about dreaming about it………..it’s oh so good.

      • love4peace
        July 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        i had my daughter at 37 c-section, then a year later another major surgery, basically they cut along the same scar. I’m 42 now, i have never had a problem with my weight, until then. i cut out all gmo foods, sugar and wheat. i have lost all of the weight and feel great. i have not started exercising yet i want my family to see how much a difference food makes. the only think i miss is restaurants. i was 156lbs now 4 months later i’m 129lbs, and i eat a lot, oh and i’m 5 ft 2 in

      • July 21, 2013 at 7:07 PM

        Rachel, what Moma says is true. I am not sure exactly how old you are but am assuming in your 20’s. Learn healthy living habits NOW. Mine all started when I hit 40. And learning now at almost 47 isn’t fun, LOL. Processed foods are evil. I have also found that getting off of grains and gluten has helped me a lot, but I might be more sensitive to them than some are (I don’t have celiacs disease or anything like that though).

    • July 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM

      Rachel, get off of that stuff!!!! Not sure if you need a psychologist as much as a medical doctor right now (not sure if you can just “go off” of that stuff without causing more issues). It sounds as if that stuff is exactly what the problem is. Working out without that stuff should be stress relief enough.

      I hope this doesn’t sound bad…I am trying to be positive and supportive but sometimes come across differently, so please don’t take offense. Just please get off of that stuff and under the guidance of a medical professional!!!

  38. July 21, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    I think you better check the ingredients on on your pre-work out supplement bottles. Also, just check to see if it is made in China. If it is made in China or Taiwan they are free to put anything in their products from rat poison to dog meat. Supplements are not subjected to the same standards as other medications by the FDA, in fact, nobody knows what is in them and if they are harmful or helpful or just plain worthless.

    • Rachel
      July 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

      woah gessie that is scary i will be checking it right now!

    • Dianna
      July 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      I’ve been to China several times. Everyone if it comes from China, DON’T PUT IT on or in your body! Read Fish any seafood. No no no. Be careful.

    • July 21, 2013 at 7:13 PM

      Gessie, so true. I began learning so much about ingredients from China when I had to have my little Schipperke (Madison) put down almost 6 years ago. She had a very rare form of cancer and the only common denominator they could find was poor diet. I had been feeding her what I thought was quality dog food when in fact it was poison. I am very paranoid about what I feed my little guys now and at one point, the owner of the feed store I frequent asked me if I worried about my own diet as much as I did my little guys’ diet. I had to sheepishly admit that I didn’t. It’s a real eye opener when you begin to educate yourself on nutrition, that’s for sure!

  39. lilliaG
    July 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Wow. Where. To. Even. Begin?

    I am SO GLAD that it was duly noted that Little Miss Everything was caught, AGAIN, physically assaulting someone. I had watched the rushed version of this fight and I’m glad our sleuth broke down what happened. Till now I might have head half of an open mind toward Melissa, now, now more. The last episode proved two things, Melissa lies, and she is very hateful and violent natured. I suspect she has only hinted at what went on in her childhood home, but I would bet money that there was a great deal of violence. Melissa and her sisters have tempers like snakes, and it’s also clear that alcoholism was a factor in the Marco household as well. I am SO GLAD that you mentioned how Melissa ‘kicked into the crowd’ at her own sons reception dinner. I also witnessed her violently trying to knee the person in front of her, and I wondered why on earth she did that, and IF the poor person she was kneeing had anything at all to do with the fight? I think she wanted to get at Joe Guidice BAD, and was willing to knee anyone who was in front of her. And the cameras caught her doing just that. I also always wondered why Melissa got a total pass on that violent act. I guess it is because she was new, and most of the viewers really try to give every cast member a fair shake, at first. Teresa was lambasted for the now famous “leaving Audrianna unattended,” but no one ever mentioned that Melissa left her three kids to fend for themselves during an all out male fistfight. All three kids were very small; Geno and Joey were mere babies. Melissa also got a total pass on that. And I really still wonder WHO was so disgusting as to violently yank on Joe Guidice’s mother’s hair? Hmm? This episode clearly shows Melissa scratching like a feral cat at Joe Guidice’s face, trying to pull his hair out, actually trying to GOUGE HIS EYES, and also PINCHING HIS NOSE SHUT. Teresa acted like a lady throughout, and did what any LADY would do and called for help. Ladies do not jump into the middle of testosterone fueled male fights. (Makes one wonder where TSIL learned such methods of DIRTY FIGHTING?) Melissa behaved like a low-down dirty street thug. Heck, even many street fighters would gross out at her manner of fighting. She clearly has no ethics WHATSOEVER.

    Melissa brags endlessly about her old fashioned Italian background; yet I don’t see a hint that she was raised that way. Tre oozes old fashioned Italian values, and I recognize that because that’s how I was raised. My dad always said that a LADY never jumps into a fight between two grown men. The only exception I could see for this would be if one party were much weaker, sicker, or disabled. Joe Gorga is a roid raged maniac, and though Guidice clearly had the upper hand, Gorga needs no help from his ‘sexy wife’ when it comes to fighting. My own hubby is a hothead and unfortunately I’ve witnessed him in a number of physical fights between himself and other men. I wouldn’t DREAM of inserting myself into his fracas. I’d be terrified of accidentally getting my neck broken, and besides I feel my husband is a grown man. If he wants to be ridiculous and fight physically with other men, it’s is NOT my call, nor my fault, nor my duty to protect him. My inclination has always been to clear the decks and make SURE my children are not witness to violence!!

    Melissa told a ‘bald lie,’ excuse the unfortunate pun, by acting shocked about the ‘shoe polish’ all over the place. Really, most guys these days do not use shoe polish, and both men were wearing casual shoes. Shoe polish?? After the way she rushed to cover her husband’s bald head. Why not own it? There is no shame in hair loss, good grief. We all use cosmetic props. That hair in the can sells like hotcakes so lot’s of guys must use it. What was utterly ridiculous is her telling us viewers that there was ‘disgusting shoe polish’ all over the place. She must take us for fools. I’d noticed that Joe Gorga’s hairline has changed noticeably from his first appearance; his hairline was much lower and fully. Who would have cared had she not tried to lie about the shoe polish?? LOL. She’ll have a hard time living that one down.

    The name calling was abominable. What sort of woman calls her husband’s SISTER a “disgusting pig” on national television. What kind of man would NOT have an issue with his wife being so egregiously disrespectful to his own sister. I can say my husband is very loyal to me, but he would have a big problem with me speaking to one of his family member’s like that. ESPECIALLY a female member, and rightly so.

    Melissa is extremely manipulative, and a seasoned operator at it. The way she shrieked “Teresa help your brother,” during a heated fight like that speaks volumes. She was trying to make Teresa take the fall for the whole deal and actually had the presence of mind to do just that, WHILE she was also trying to maim Joe Guidice. She is real-piece-of-work, that TSIL. Now I know exactly what is the PROBLEM in that family, and it is JEALOUSY. Melissa Gorga is pathologically jealous of her sister in law, and is determined to hurt her and her family.

    On to Jacaloo. Jacqueline is a bitter, miserably unhappy alcoholic. I always found Jacqueline’s ugly provocation of Ashley to be most disturbing and unsettling. The woman even CREATED scenarios to make that poor daughter of hers look positively horrid, and for a long time it worked. Only now are viewers beginning to feel some sympathy for Ashley. For a long long time Ashley was tarred and feathered on Twitter and other social venues and all because of Jacqueline’s, and the Manzo Famblee’s manipulation of the storyline to make Ashlee look like a female version of Chucky. I remember once Jacqueline said that she and Ashlee had locked horns since Ashlee was TWO YEARS OLD. TWO?? Everyone knows that a two year old is going to be difficult, but Jacqueline explained it in a much more serious way. She said they had problems in their relationship since Ashlee was TWO. Poor Ashlee–lucky lucky Jacqster that Ashlee hasn’t chosen to write a tell all book. It would be an instant best seller, and I have a feeling the content would be shocking.

    When Jacqueline acted like a lunatic in the store grabbing at Kat’s cell and told Tre to stop blaming her family problems on her–she was actually speaking for herself. She for some insane reason is making Tre a scapegoat for all the million things that have gone wrong in her life. She hates Tre for having healthy, beautiful daughters. She HATES Tre for being a runaway financial success and for her blockbuster books. Jacqueline is clearly suffering badly from premenopause symptoms and may be in full blown menopause by now. She had to get HEAVY technological help to get pregnant with Nicholas, and had an incredible number of miscarriages previously. That IS the body’s way of telling us something, and it is very obvious that her body was way past a good point for childbearing. Tre had super healthy pregnancies (yes, I heard she had IVF for Audrianna, don’t know if thats true or not,) but her pregnancies were still undeniably very healthy. And her kids are glowing with good health. And you can bet that Jacque Wakie HATES Tre for that too. As if Tre cursed her own family or something. (Jacq probably actually believes that, sadly.)

    Jacqueline also has a frightful temper. Did anyone else cringe when Nicholas started hitting himself in the head?? I found that SO disturbing. Just a very abnormal manner for a child to act out. Please don’t tell me it’s the AUTISM. Sigh, personally, I DO NOT believe Nicholas has autism. I DO believe he is disabled, but I don’t believe it’s autism. I have years and years of education in that mean, and I know all too well the hallmarks of autism. Nicholas is really NOT displaying those hallmarks, and it is endlessly frustrating to see Jacqueline exploiting that storyline for all it is worth, when it is probably not the case at all. I KNOW others suspect that what is going on with Nicholas is NOT autism, but most people are so affected by Jacqueline’s weekly crying bouts that no one calls her out on it. And if they do, they are called cruel and all manner of names. But for the sake of countless families who are affected by autism, like MINE, I think the way she and Chris exploit the autism storyline is inexcusable. Did Nick’s “autism” cause Jacqadilly and Chris to defraud the Susan Komen foundation for hordes of monies that were used for their own personal gain?? To go over 50 mil in bankruptcy?

    Lastly, and I DO apologize for this novella, why does Melissa get a total pass for the horrific way she presents Antonia when Tre is lambasted because Gia wears a crop top for working out? Or has a second hand Fendi bag her own mother gave her? Bravo has a current picture group of Antonia that I found shocking and disturbing. WHO taught Antonia to pose like that for pictures?? Talk about sexualization of young girls. Sorry. I find the way Antonia poses for pictures to be horrifying and there is NO ONE else to blame but her parents. WHO encourages that in a young girl?

    I pity Teresa for having that viper in her brood, her malignant SIL. If I were her I WOULD be the one to move away and get MY children away. I’d run as fast as my chubby legs could carry me!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • July 21, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      Love your post!

      • lilliaG
        July 22, 2013 at 10:40 AM

        And I love your darling dog, Gessie! Tell me about him! 🙂

    • NinaK
      July 21, 2013 at 3:50 PM

      Great post… and especially your description of Melissa… totally 100% spot on… had to read it twice it was so good!!

    • July 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      OMG, what a wonderful comment. I believe all of us here feel the very same way. I raised this before, when Jac got into the JTG fight. What mother inserts herself into a brawl? I have no idea how these two women were raised. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, comment made giving all due respect to female pigs.

      • NinaK
        July 21, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        LOL!!! “all due to respect to female pigs”… bwahahaha!!

      • July 21, 2013 at 8:52 PM


    • July 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM

      Excellent post!

    • July 21, 2013 at 4:44 PM

      You have wonderful insight. I loved this post. I am glad you had so much to say. I saw a comment on another site about TB saying a stripper was in the house – the parents were preparing them for the family business or something like that. They are going to get in trouble in school if they act like their father.

      • lilliaG
        July 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM

        You guys are welcome!!

        I’m glad that people are keeping tabs on TSIL. She got away with her ploys to destroy Tre for a long time.

        What is sad is that this horrible conspiracy that all these jealous cretins are spinning to destroy Tre, HAS had some of the desired effect.

        It’s clear that Mel, Joey, Caroline and her nursing-30-something ‘kids’ have hurt the Giudice family. We can see that even though Tre and Joe still love each other, the strain is telling. For instance, I think in some twisted way, Jacqaloop and Co. were behind that weird phone call that Joe Guidice got in the vineyards. Yep, I think that Jacqster, Mego and her elderly sisters ARE deliberately trying to set Joe Giudice up to cheat on Tre by arranging to have women throw themselves at him. They’ve tried and tried to ruin Tre and they know in their mean little hearts that it would destroy Tre and the girls if her marriage blew apart. Just like at the ‘Feshun Show’, Jacqadoodoo was 100% plugged in RIGHT WHEN that odd phone call came in for Joe Guidice–like the whole thing had been pre-arranged. Jacqaloops was also the main orchestrator of ‘Strippergate’ in a convoluted attempt to make it look like Tre was trying to destroy her brother’s marriage. If you think about it, it takes a person who is nearly a sociopath to do the wicked things that some of those people have been doing to Tre and her family.

        What’s scary is the attack doesn’t stop at the kids. We all witnessed the Menopause Mambas bullying and tormenting Gia while the girl was crying for her mother. Actually, what Jacq and Caroline did to Gia is technically a criminal offense–false imprisonment. Teresa could have actually filed criminal charges against the Hot Flash Hags as they held Gia, a minor child, AGAINST her will, unknown to Tre, while they were also inflicting mental anguish on her. Actually, MULTIPLE charges could have possibly been filed against the Hags. I think at that point Tre didn’t realize just how much the Haglets hated her and that they were actually and deliberately taking it out on Gia.

        I hope that Tre can forgive all these cruel people, but stay far away from all of them, for the safety of her family.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 21, 2013 at 6:39 PM

          First of all, lilliaG – Welcome here!!

          Second of all, WOW!!!! Fantastic analysis and spot on observations.

          Third of all, Teresa does forgive these people over and over and continually is hurt. It’s no secret here how I feel that Teresa needs to cut ties with her brother. I think she will need to at some point. Things can be patched up – but the water dam is so damaged it will eventually break to the point of no return.

          Happy you are here! 😉

          • lilliaG
            July 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

            Thank you, Jeannie!! 🙂

    • marcy
      July 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM

      @lilliaG Well said and my sentiments exactly. This how I would express myself, If I could. Jeannie is one of my favs also man can she write also, their are several on this site, that I am in awe of. Love You FAME The #1 Site

      • Jeannie5233
        July 21, 2013 at 6:41 PM

        That is very sweet of you marcy. You, however, express your feelings very well and your comments are important – just like every one else’s here. 🙂

      • lilliaG
        July 21, 2013 at 10:32 PM

        Thanks, Marcy!! 🙂

  40. lilliaG
    July 21, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    And I don’t mean Tre has chubby legs. I saw while she was at the gym that she has a gorgeous figure. (Sharp contrast to Melissa’s total lack of natural curves. She BOUGHT her bosom. And Jacqueline’s waist length bubbies and her pigeon toed legs.) I meant MY chubby legs.

    • July 21, 2013 at 4:29 PM

      I agree and quite frankly I actually liked Teresa’s body better pre-bubbies. I personally like the natural look to the bolt-ons.

  41. July 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    First of all, thanks so much for these screen shots and ALL the hard work that goes into this amazing and fun blog!!!! Not sure what it says about me and my priorities, lol, but our Fam had a late night and skipped church this morning…I’ve been enjoying a lazy day of coffee sipping and Famewhorga reading! 🙂

    “Roll that beautiful bean footage” made me spew my ever present Cherry Crystal Light fcat!!!

    Rosie, Rosie, Rosie!! You, like your dumb azz sister are blowing whatever limited opportunity remains to FLY, not just ride, on the Teresa Coat Tail! Why you or Kat would continue to support the Famewhorgas, when all that “beautiful bean footage” tells the TRUE tale of the Gorgan charge/asss-ault leads me to agree that you are perhaps mentally deficient as some of the crueler blogs have claimed?

    Is there a screenshot or a time identified in any of the footage that highlights Melissa (in what I think of as the biggest Famewhore-Reveal to date) saying something along the lines of “See, we could make money together?” I think it’s after the “Team-Building” circle excercise?

    • July 21, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      Now I know what Teresa is suppose to apologize for – I am sorry I did not include everyone in my honest successful routes to get myself out of debt, I thought it was my business not everyone elses

  42. lilliaG
    July 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    One more thought about Jacqualoon’s menopausal symptoms, she tweets so much she probably tweets many things she later regrets tweeting. Once she tweeted that she was undergoing hormonal therapy using testosterone. This is a huge indicator that she IS in menopause. This is a complex issue, far more than most will realize. If the therapy is not done just right, it can have serious effects, such as mood disorder, bouts of anger. Extreme caution MUST be taken with patients who already are predisposed to mood/emotional disorders.

    Most of us don’t need a med. degree to see that Jacqueline is just ‘not quite right.’ Her bouts of extreme anger, sometimes violent anger, and crying jags that reportedly last for days, strongly suggest anything from mood disorders to borderline personality disorders, perhaps worse. Only her physicians know for certain.

    Another HUGE problem is her drinking. And she clearly drinks like a fish. Alcohol abuse and menopause is a vicious mixture and can terribly worsen the miseries of menopause. So with Jacqs we have a dangerous mix of probable pre-existing emotional/mental issues, menopause, and likely abuse of alcohol. Terrible combo, and just tragic for a parent responsible for the care of a disabled child.

    • July 21, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      It appears prescription drugs are involved also. Jac did mention something about Xanax being passed out at the reunion. She is clearly unstable. There was a motion to declare her not being competent to stand trial, if I am not mistaking. It was denied, more than likely because she appears on the show. However, the attorneys had to have some type of evidence to even file that motion.

      • lilliaG
        July 21, 2013 at 6:15 PM

        That is seriously disturbing. Maybe Jacqueline should just check herself into rehab. Mixing benzos like Xanax AND alcohol is a good way to ‘wake up dead’ as they say.

        I could see the concern all over Chris Laurita’s face last episode. His wife is imploding and he knows it and feels totally helpless.

        Did anyone else get the creeps when Jacqueline kept saying “Liar, liar…,” in that bizarre sing-song voice she used when she tries to imitate Tre?? She doesn’t merely look unstable as of late; she looks evil.

  43. anastasia
    July 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    OT, but remember in season 1 when Caroline got all offended when anyone suggested her father-in-law was connected to the mob? Here’s an article from today’s New York Daily News where there is a picture of Albert “Tiny” Manzo and he is called “the biggest enforcer in Jersey” and discusses his murder and an incident that led up to it.


    • July 21, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      Wow! That’s fascinating!

    • Debbie J
      July 21, 2013 at 4:06 PM

      Holy sh-t I remember when she got all upset about that. Have to wonder how will the Manzo clan spin that one? Thanks for sharing that Anastasia.

    • July 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM

      Yes — S1 reunion, Andy tried to broach the topic and Caroline and Dina cut him off at the knees. He was a good man and it was tragic for the sake of our kids move on and of course he did. S3 Christmas at the Gorgas — TB kissed Al’s ring when they came in — HMMM what does that tell you? Overall there is no way 2 brothers Al and Tommy are living the lifestyles they do off of the Brownstone alone and/or both working those kinds of hours — no way.

      Thanks for sharing as I’d never actually read this in-depth of a story nor saw a pic of Tiny before.

      • Kathy
        July 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        The Brownstone was used as the set for some mob dinner in one of the episodes of The Sopranos (can’t recall which one and The Brownstone wasn’t named). Maybe they had some real life experience with that sort of thing. LOL! A couple of the Manzo/Lauritas could even be seen as “extras.”

    • July 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM

      Thanks for the tip anatasia. I just published a new blog on it:

      Caroline Manzo’s Father-in-Law, Tiny Manzo, Had Been the Biggest Mob Enforcer in New Jersey

      • anastasia
        July 21, 2013 at 4:58 PM

        You’re welcome!

  44. Stefanie
    July 21, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    I believe that she didn’t want to go on this retreat because it wasn’t her idea. She went out of her way when she told TB and everyone else what Jennifer Dalton said about her best friend and about TSIL cheating. She conveniently left out that Teresa had anything to do with it. Jacqueline than says the things about Teresa in front of TB, so by the time they talked to Kim D TB wasn’t going to listen to anyone defending Teresa. On the way to the retreat we have Melissa and Ritchie fanning the flames and we have Melissa’s whispering remarks. There was no way that this retreat was going to work. The only reason as one poster said on a previous post that TSIL and TB went along with this fake reconciliation was the fact that they know the fight put them in a bad light.

  45. love4peace
    July 21, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    the thing about jackaloon that makes me mad is Bailey’s was my drink of choice now i can’t drink it anymore. it reminds me of her. i only drank about 4 times a year and now i don’t have a go to drink

    • July 21, 2013 at 7:19 PM

      Try Kaluah 😀

      I love me a good white russian, but you’d need to throw some vodka in with the Kaluah for that!

      • Dianna
        July 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM

        Kaluh and orange juice. It’s called a tootsie roll😜

        • July 21, 2013 at 8:56 PM

          Hmmm…never heard of that. I will have to try it!

  46. Detroitrockcity
    July 21, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Amasing what one does in the spotlight! Keep going like you are you might land a spot on ID tv! Ys know they run this kinda crap over there!” We don’t need more reruns!:( Sad to say, this is Old Shit,we all lived it out via Fame!! Polish your boots Bravo,or at least hire a maid to clean up the mess!!; l

    • Detroitrockcity
      July 21, 2013 at 4:07 PM

      Ya know^^^ ; )

      • Detroitrockcity
        July 21, 2013 at 4:29 PM

        Ms Celi, just want to send my love! I know its hard what your goin through, but stay strong and stay fast in the Lord!! We all are here with you!! I have my bad days to,but here we have many voices who are heard!! Your always in my prayers!!!! BLESS YOU ALL!!:)

  47. charok
    July 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    heres a link to a story on ROL about the gorgas showing off their beach bodies ( and apparently poison joe ditched his shoe polish hair! LOL!!


    in fact one of the comments?
    “Glad to see Joe has ditched the scalp powder that was all over everyone following the fight at the retreat! ”

    • Jeannie5233
      July 21, 2013 at 6:29 PM

      That picture clearly shows his receding hairline. Thanks for the link charok!

      • July 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

        My laptop will not connect to Radar Online. The last pic above though where Melissa is putting the hat on clearly shows it too.

  48. jeannie NJ
    July 21, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    I need to vent! I’m catching up watching the retreat and cannot believe what I just saw! Melissa is on her knees pleading to teresa to stop hurting them- and asking to kiss her ring while ranting and the next second in her TH Melissa is stating that Teresa needs perscription meds? OK now, I just heard Joe Gorga admit he shoe polishes his head? Did I hear correctly- first honest thing I heard out of his mouth- God, I hate Melissa. My niece told me I’m not alone- the niece says none of the other girls liked at Lookers either. Ok, back to tonight’s episode….why do I do this to myself….Dr. V is on her way……………Caroline too??? Oh no…………

  49. Scranton Sally
    July 21, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Melissa is showing her true colors– she won’t be happy until she ruins Teresa- her marriage, her friends, her parents and now her businesses! Shame on you Melissa…..

  50. Dianna
    July 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    I’m wide open. Teresa doesn’t ask for help. I know you lady are taking notes. Can’t wait for y’all’s opinions.

  51. trixie
    July 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Melissa will not leave her husband alone with Teresa because without her “help” they might actually make progress – she doesn’t want peace- she wants to play her victim role and make Teresa the enemy of all the world. Melissa is the disgusting pig- not Teresa. Joe Go is a putz!

    • charok
      July 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM

      agree 100% trixie tre and joe go would stand a chance of reconcile but no way in hades will missy stand for THAT> missy is a disgusting pig and joe go? i was thinking more along the lines of “schmuck” but putz will work too!

    • July 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM

      Soooo right!

  52. Go scratch groupie
    July 21, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Wow TSIL and TB! All your jealousy is coming out – talking about Fabellini and Teresa’s book deal. What does that have to do with any of this?! What that shows is your JEALOUSY!! You cannot be happy for your sister. You were so ready to ride in on your white horse and save T when he thought Juicy was going away and they were filing BK, right? He would take care of her and the kids – ugh he was gloating about her troubles. TB is such a loser. But T & Juicy fixed their own problems and they can’t stand it. How sad. T will NEVER be able to fix that problem.

    • July 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

      They are jealous and trying to ruin her brand. Good luck Hooker.

  53. Anonymous
    July 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM

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  54. July 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM

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  55. lobstahsmaht
    July 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Well Melissa’s secrets are about to be spilled. Bulldog is mentioning on twitter that he is going to speak up.

    Bryan ‏@bulldog_nj 54m
    Ps don’t blame Teresa we never even met! U wanna play!? I will be finally getting my side of the story out or should I say”truth” very soon

    Bryan ‏@bulldog_nj 40m
    Well lets see..Lifestyles mag had a lot to say about me without ever meeting or speaking to me.Just listened to her! MY TURN! Highest bidder

    Bryan ‏@bulldog_nj 14m
    The best is she said “now”where white trash for fighting. Lol you got me Into fights every other wkd and loved it.

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    • charok
      July 21, 2013 at 10:22 PM

      oh how i PRAY the bulldog speaks out….and missy baited the bulldog into fights, and of course she LOVED it…

      • July 21, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        I think he will Charo. He seems to be a man of great conviction and one that takes action rather than making threats.

    • mktgdrivethru
      July 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      Oooooh those Marco Mattresses must be spitting now.

  56. lilliaG
    July 21, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Melissa is really losing her formerly icy grip on things. We could always see the hatred for Tre behind a thin disguise; we viewers are sharper than Mel supposes! But Mel is really letting it all hang out now! She is so addled with hate and jealousy toward Tre and her family that she is losing control.Twitter is ablaze right now with outrage toward Melissa and as usual she is playing the coward writing “I haven’t watched the episode yet,” when someone asked about a blouse she’d wore to brunch. At least that is what I read about an hour ago. Perhaps she has since posted? She’s been pretending ALL DAY to be cheerful and unaffected, but I’ll bet she is reading every post!! I think she knows that she has tipped her hat in more than one way. Yep, she’s blown it. Recording star career gone like yesterday’s lunch. (I think JLo can rest easy now, lol.)

  57. mktgdrivethru
    July 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Teresa tried to warn her about this – but TSIL figured that her oh-so-fabulous self would have the world worshipping at her feet. The editing gods have also turned against her — as have many of the passive viewers and blogs. Instant karma’s gonna get you.

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