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Teresa Giudice Says Her Friends and Family Turned on Her and “Hate on Her Like It’s Their Full-time Job”; Melissa Gorga Denies the Cheating Allegations; Kim D Proudly Owns Being the Villain and Says She and Jacqueline Laurita are “Very Close”

July 8, 2013

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Teresa Giudice’s Bravo blog for episode 6 was short and to the point, and the gist of it is in the excerpt below – she says her family and friends have turned on her and “hate on her like it’s their full-time job” (it kinda is):

I’m thinking of writing a new book about my life (since apparently writing four cookbooks doesn’t count…). I’m going to call it 50 Shades of Black & Blue.

In it, my own family members and friends I’ve had for 10 years turn on me. They hate me and hate on me like it’s their full time job. They sit around every day talking about me non-stop, even when I’m not there. They talk and talk and talk some more about how obsessed I am with them. They bang their hands and wave napkins and cackle about how crazy I am.

Meanwhile across town, people with cute 1950s names — Penny, Jan — that own salons come up to me saying they want to carry Milania Hair Care. Of course, I listen. Then they start talking trash about my sister-in-law. Of course, I stop listening. I get up and leave. Doesn’t matter though, because I am invisible now.

My family hears about the rumors and blames me. I am to blame for everything: when their ex-bosses and ex-boyfriends talk about them, when their friends stop liking them, when their house and records and books don’t sell. It is all my fault. Along with eclipses and the economy.

It does hurt that my family always assumes the worst of me. It hurts when they call me names. It hurts when I see tabloids with the “inside scoop” on my parents, my in-laws, and my marriage. But what can I do? Nothing because it’s only fiction. Right?

In Melissa’s Bravo blog for episode 6, she said she should have seen it coming when she decided to write an advice book on marriage and said, “I’m innocent of every disgusting thing those scheming ladies cooked up about me.”

Melissa: “I Don’t Know Who to Trust” (Excerpt)
By Melissa Gorga
Monday, July 08, 2013 3:53 PM

It wasn’t fun to come home to this episode. I honestly have no idea where to start. My head is still spinning. At this point, I don’t know who to trust. I don’t know what to believe.

I should have seen it coming. I write about marriage, so I’m accused of cheating. If I wrote about gardening, I’d be accused of planting plastic trees. I should write about friendship, something like, “The friends you make as a lonely teenager are not necessarily who you want in your life later on.” I thought I was being a good friend keeping ties long after we’d grown apart. Good intentions can get you stabbed in the back. It hurt to live through it, and to watch it play out. I’m still a bit in shock.

I’m not going to defend myself against what was said about me. I’m innocent of every disgusting thing those scheming ladies cooked up about me. I know who I am, and what I’ve done. My family and friends know it too. Like I said in the episode, I don’t like to put everything on Teresa and I DON’T. But there is something to be said about the company you keep. And when an accusation as disgusting as giving BJs is being discussed on national TV about your own sister-in-law, no matter how much you “don’t like her,” I think what most people would do is: immediately get up and walk away, reach out to their family to give them the heads up since the last time this happened it caused such a divide, and maybe not tweet that “It was a good night” so that your brother and his wife don’t think that you enjoyed hearing this.

Jacqueline in her Bravo blog said the episode “made me giggle” and is claiming her intrusion into Teresa’s family drama was her two-year attempt to “resolve everything with Teresa’s family.”

The Phone Fight with Teresa (Excerpt)
By Jacqueline Laurita
Monday, July 08, 2013 9:28 AM

This episode made me giggle. I remember the frustrations I felt at the time, because for so long Teresa had been out of sight, out of mind. Then all of a sudden her name kept popping up everywhere around me, and everyone kept talking about her and their family issues. Maybe it was because all of a sudden we were all together again. But who knows. I will try to take you back to how I was feeling at the time.

It just seemed odd to me that, miraculously, Teresa wanted to make an effort to resolve everything with her family, after I had been trying to make that happen for two years prior! Why now? I wasn’t buying into the sincerity of it all. At the time, I felt like it was all for show and not for real. On top of that, I was getting increasingly annoyed, because I heard that Teresa kept talking about me behind my back saying I was stalking her at “her” gym and blaming me for all of her family fighting. It annoyed me so much, because I knew that I had done so much to try to bring her family back together, and not only was it not appreciated, I somehow became the a–hole, and I felt like Teresa wasn’t taking any accountability for any of her own actions to cause the rift in her family.

When I heard Teresa had been with those catty girls she called her friends talking about Melissa, I couldn’t help but go back to what I knew last year. It appeared to me that Teresa was playing innocent again and letting her “soldiers,” as I called them, be her voice, in order to expose Melissa or make up lies about her in a way that would ensure nobody would like her or buy her new book. I kept thinking that if Teresa knew that these girls were on national TV trash talking her sister-in-law with those defaming accusations that she would want absolutely nothing to do with these girls again. It’s one thing to listen to them behind closed doors, but this salacious gossip was obviously being spread nationwide. Instead, it seemed as though Teresa embraced them.

Believe me, I totally get not wanting to get in the middle of someone else’s fight, because that is the way I am. I may listen to people talk out their frustrations, but I try to stay neutral and fair while I try to understand both sides.

Teresa’s bestie, Kim D., can definitely stir up trouble at times, but she will own up to what she’s done when confronted and almost always apologizes for it. She’s actually not a bad person once you get to know her. She can make me giggle at times. She has been through a lot in her life and she’s always worked hard as a single mom. When you talk to her, you understand her. Every single one of us, including Melissa, still shop at her store, Posche.

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On her new WordPress blog, Kim D gives her take on episode 6, which was totally staged by production despite how she tries to spin it… it’s her job to convince us that the show is not contrived and partially scripted, so she’s just being a good employee. Andy seems to like Kim D (he even said he “loved” her last season), and she was a surprise guest on WWHL after the episode 6 premiere.

Kim D explains in her blog that she and Jacqueline “are very close” (although Jacqueline in her Bravo blog says that Kim D and Teresa are “besties”) and that Jacqueline was only “busting on her” by holding her nose when Kim D came over to the table (Kim D said during reunion 4 that she and Jacqueline talk on the phone for an hour and a half every morning).

As noted by Meri, evidently Kim D and Jennifer Dalton don’t think highly of each other. However, Kim D and Jennifer probably are faking their Twitter feud since, according to Teresa’s friend and co-writer Heather Maclean, they are paid more if they “bring it.” A source tells FameWhorgas that Kim D was paid $80,000 to be the “villain” of season 5 and Jennifer Dalton was paid $20,000 to be the “go-between.” When asked on Twitter if “they get paid for these small appearances or just hope to get on show?,” Heather tweeted the following reply:

“@nanagrant They don’t get paid. Only official ‘Friends of HWs’ get paid and it’s very little. Only goes up if they ‘bring it.’ #BadSystem … None of the new ‘friends’ of HWs though want to look too crazy, so they end up switching sides & backing down. Makes for messy TV (& editing).” – Heather Maclean ‏(@HeatherMaclean), July 7, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Twitter

Here are some tweets between Kim D and Jennifer:

“@flygirljennifer, what # is bigger-the amnt. of bullsh*t that comes out ur mouth or the # of babies you’ve given up to diff daddies?” – Kim D (@KimDPosche)

“#trash @KimDPosche you belong in a trailer park and I got a the perfect spot for you. You’re not good enough for spam in a can.” – Jennifer (@flygirljennifer)

“What drops faster? The names out of @flygirljennifer’s mouth or her balls?” – Kim D (@KimDPosche)

‏Another Twitter follower (@teresaisthebest) on July 7, 2013 suggested Heather join RHONJ since she is “always so spot on,” to which Heather replied:

“They asked me to be on & I said no thank you. Then they threatened me & I said no thank you very much. ” 😉

When asked how she was threatened, Heather replied:

“That they would not show any of Teresa’s book & that I wouldn’t be ‘allowed’ to write them anymore.” 🙂

When another follower (@Mikado5056) tweeted Andy Cohen that Bravo had “no ethics at all,” Heather replied:

“It’s Sirens, not Bravo really. Although Bravo buys what Sirens (ahem) makes…”

Heather explained this in more detail in her interview published at AllAboutTRH on June 7, 2013:

“Every Real Housewives show has a different production company: NY has Shed Media, BH has Evolution, Atlanta has True Entertainment, and NJ has Sirens. And every production company has their own internal culture. You can get a feel for what they are used to producing from their other shows. Shed did Super Nanny, Evolution did Big Brother, True worked with Oprah, and Sirens did a bunch of crazy crime shows Panic 911, Who the (Bleep) Did I Marry?, Deadly Affairs, The Nightmare Next Door… That should tell you something about the ‘stories’ Sirens creates. To be fair, the producers try and get as much of a real story as they can, but it’s almost impossible. Have you ever heard of the Heisenberg effect? It’s the idea that nothing can be purely observed because the very act of observing something changes it. The minute a camera shows up, reality changes. Producers can’t film in a place without getting prior permission from the location and everyone in it. And not everyone in a cast member’s life will agree to be on TV. Their parents might say no, kids from a previous marriage might not be allowed, so you’re never going to get a true and complete picture.”

Episode 6: Friend or Faux Pas? (Excerpt)
By Kim DePaola
July 8, 2013

After this episode, you will clearly see that I have obviously been established as “the villain” of the season! I’ll own it proudly! After all, things do just fall into my lap! 😉

FYI: If anyone lives up in our area of North Jersey and has not been to the new Bellissimo’s, I highly recommend it! Definitely one of my new favorite restaurants and such gorgeous decor! First just to clarify, I was not calling the waiter cute. Not saying that he was not a good-looking man, but I was actually making reference to a picture on my phone of a guy I had recently met at the time. I am now single, and will address the unfortunate circumstances of that situation in a later blog.

To address how I know Jan: a very dear friend of mine who has known her for years introduced us. Jan owns a salon called Teeze, which has headed up hair and makeup for my models at a recent Posche fashion show. Teresa had just started marketing her Milania Hair Care products and was looking for salons in the area to start carrying the line. My friend and I both felt that Teeze would be a great fit. As for Penny, she is also a salon owner and hairdresser whom I have known for years. She and Jan are friendly as they run in similar circles.

The initial purpose of the meeting was for Teresa to pitch the Milania line to Jan and Penny and also to personally invite them to her launch party. Teresa started reminiscing with Jan when we sat down at the table to catch up on old times. That is when Jan admitted that Melissa was no longer her friend. From what Jan had told me in the past, she was upset with Melissa for not acknowledging or supporting her new business venture (Teeze), and also for ultimately casting her aside as a friend. Bottom line: Jan was hurt. At the time, I was more than “not too fond” of Melissa for reasons that have at this point been made very clear. As I previously stated, we are in a good place now. However, this was a girls night out. What do girls typically do on a night out? Gossip. Jan took the conversation to a place none of us expected it to go. We sat and listened. It was not my story.

Onto the lunch with Melissa and the woman I like to refer to in the rest of my blogs as “the realtor”. Where do I begin? Should I start with the Warpaint collection of MAC cosmetics she was showcasing, or the “macaroni and cheeth” that was apparently so delicious she barely came up for air?! And I should state that Montville is a beautiful and very affluent town. Most people would kill to live there. Not sure why the realtor would tell Melissa she should be living anywhere else.

As far as the “cheating on your huthband” goes…(is it just me or does she sound like she has marbles in her mouth when she speaks?) maybe at the time you could say I did have it out for Melissa because of what she did with regards to my business. However, I would never look to break up a marriage. This story came out and I sat back and listened. As I said it was not MY story. Teresa however, did not just sit back and listen. She was uncomfortable with the discussion and what you do not see is that she actually got up from the table. She did not want any part of it PERIOD.

Onto Portobello’s…Let me first say that everyone who lives in my town goes to Portobello’s. So for those who may ask what I was doing there the same night as the Gorgas, Wakiles, and Lauritas? It was a cold Friday night in the middle of winter. I took my mom, my assistant, and her friend down the street for a few drinks and a bite to eat. I had no idea whatsoever they would be there. The place was packed.

When I am called over to the table, you see Jacqueline holding her nose. She is a jokester and was only kidding. We are very close and she likes to bust on me. She threw the napkin so that Melissa and I would stop arguing. And by the way, it was very refreshing to hear how much Richie loves me!

In reference to the “coincidences”, they are not coincidental. I said it on the reunion and I will say it again: The circumstances were simply convenient. Anyone in my life can tell you that I know A LOT of people. People do talk and are always telling me things. Do I believe everything I hear? No, absolutely not, but that doesn’t always stop information from getting out. I was not looking for “a pass.” Did not ask for one, did not want one. Kathy asks why I didn’t shut the conversation down at Bellissimo’s when it turned ugly. Maybe that would have been the right thing to do. However, as most of you do know by now I have a devilish side in me and I cannot always help that! I can say that going forward I will try my hardest and work on it! 😉

What you do not see when Joe asks me if I think Melissa cheated on him is that I actually say: “No, I don’t think she cheated. ” I will repeat, I would never wish to break up a marriage. Like Melissa says, they are “un-f*ckin-breakable” and I do firmly believe that. And I had to smile during the interview when Melissa tells me to “go jump off the GW”, (all in good humor) because she is wearing our Mittmi coral minidress from Posche! Looks great on you, Melis!!

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  1. July 8, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Before BravoTV makes @HeatherMacLean take her tweets down go look at last 50 or so & u will see why Kim and Jennifer are going at it.. They are paid more if they “bring it”..
    Gotta say tho, Kim is funny’

    • July 8, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      Thanks Miss Fab! I added her tweets.

      • smith
        July 8, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        One of the most interesting was that Heather said they had T under contract until she was 80 or something…. That explains so much in my mind. She can’t change networks. She is completely dependent on Bravo. She has to be a good employee to stand a chance of a good edit.

      • July 9, 2013 at 6:12 AM

        Go look at SH site from yesterday, called: “clothes to Melissa” fricking hysterical.

    • Laram
      July 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM

      I agree at Miss Fab. Not usually a Kim D fan, but her description of Jennifer was HIlarious!

  2. Anoneemouse
    July 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Why do I think that the only reason Kim D. and Jacwhole are friends is because Kim D knows all Jacwhole’s secrets?

    • windycitywondering2
      July 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      IMO, I wouldn’t call them “friends”. Wacky Jacky has to be a never ending source of gossip on the rest of the cast!

  3. July 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    I can’t take this book coming out…

    IMO, Joe Gorga has a sex addiction, and probably a steroid problem/addiction. This man is certainly not representative all of men out there. How Melissa Marco has a “happy marriage” with a man like this, does not give her any authority whatsoever to advise other women on how to keep their own marriages “hot” and “sexy.”

    I’d rather have a respectful, healthy marriage than one built on such superficial things like sex and being famous. Joe admitted that he tells his wife to shut the f up and called her a B. He objectifies her horribly–he has said that he loves that other men want his wife but that they can’t have her. Melissa is an object to him–a prize, a trophy wife in every sense of the word.

    Sex is an important part of a relationship, but ultimately, other things come first. Sex, like these 2 have is sure to fizzle out because the other parts of their relationship are clearly not intact. Melissa never seems into him and that phony kiss in front of Kim D further proved this to me. Just because you suck someone’s face doesn’t mean you’re “unbreakable.” Look at other couples who have been on the housewives–appeared to look like they were “unbreakable” too and they ended up in divorce: Simon and Tamra, Adrienne and Paul, Kordell and Porsha. Just because you say it and act like it on camera, does not change the sad state of a marriage.

    Call me crazy, but in my own relationship, having good relationships with my partner’s family is everything to me. It’s OK to not be BFFs with in laws, but having a mutual love and respect is paramount. There is no love there. Melissa cares about Melissa, and her children, but not Joe and not Joe’s family. When housewives is long over, and they’re doing a where are they now, these 2 are going to be a broken couple people. Broke and just as miserable as they are pretending not be now.

    • July 8, 2013 at 10:52 AM

      In my opinion their marriage will fall apart when they are no longer on the show. At this time these two are living in the imaginary world they created for themselves and their fans. When their imaginary facade crumbles and there are no more freebies and envelope openings to attend, things will go south for these two.

      Hot and sexy, more like gross and disturbing.

      I also wonder what the viewers and the cast would be saying about Joe Guidice if he did any of the sick things Joe Gorga has done on the show? I feel Joe Gorga and Jac both need professional help, their behavior is just not normal.

      I was lurking around this morning and found this video. I can only imagine what happened after the camera turned away. Like I said, gross and disturbing.

      http://instagram.com/p/beK5QwJC3A/#

      • July 8, 2013 at 12:08 PM

        That video is hilarious. And gross. Who the hell does he think he is, anyway?

      • July 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM

        No, I think they’ll be together forever, they are like the middle aged guido version of Heidi and Spencer, MFEO selling whatever it takes, even their family & souls for another couple minutes of fame.

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          July 8, 2013 at 2:37 PM

          Together forever? I remember way back in the day – a guido would have his name painted in script on the driver’s door of his Trans Am and his girlfriend’s on the passenger side. Usually was a Tony with a Tammy. They were always “forever”. I remember seeing one Trans Am that had the passenger side doors repainted several times when the “forever” girlfriend was replaced. I think Prissy Missy and Joe-roid will be together if only that no one else would put up with the crap they dish out…

          • July 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM

            I do not for a moment believe that Melissa will stay with Joey for any longer than she has to. If not for the show, I bet they would be done by now.

      • Laram
        July 8, 2013 at 5:40 PM

        Hilarious and disturbing as y’all said. What goons! They are perfect for each other.

      • July 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM

        New Douche On the Block?

      • Erie70
        July 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM

        They look so stupid in this video… Gross and lip singing for sure cuz she knows her voice would of ruined the song period!!

    • July 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM

      Hey! When he gets mad at his sister he has sex with his wife. Can we get a chapter on that Melissa Gorga you stupid slut.

      • Confused
        July 8, 2013 at 6:05 PM

        If my husband ever said anything like that he’d be cut off until he saw a therapist.

        • July 8, 2013 at 7:18 PM

          Or he’d be cut off you know where.

          • rfeliciat
            July 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

            @ gessie – i was thinking the same thing!

      • lucille mason
        July 8, 2013 at 8:31 PM

        and melissa loves her black stallion lol,wondwe who’s the guy she was dreaming about the nite before to him,i\d say run for your life

        • July 9, 2013 at 6:57 AM

          Her comment about a stallion always being black just cracked me up. I believe I knew what a stallion was in second grade, of course westerns were very popular at that time. Thank goodness she does not teach.

    • adioslunatic
      July 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM

      There’s more love in Teresa and Juicy’s little pecks than in that vile demonstration last night. It was a desperate move and quite uncomfortable (and unsexy) to watch.

  4. Jeannie5233
    July 8, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    I am sooo glad Jacs is behaving the way she is and Bravo is airing it. Johnny the Greek’s attorneys should be adding all of this footage to their arsenal against her. She had no problem and did her best to depict Johnny in the worst possible light, trying to destroy his character and credibility when she testified at the probable cause hearing:

    This is just a few of her comments from her testimony and there is more, saying he is a stalker and she is afraid for her safety:

    “. . .Moments before the altercation, Laurita said she was part of a “tsunami of people” packed into the boutique for the grand opening. That’s when she claims Karagiorgis “lunged towards me, and I heard him yelling, ‘I’ll [expletive] kill you.”

    “. . .Laurita — represented by her attorney, Michael DeMarco — said that Karagiorgis “came dressed in clothes like he was ready for a fight.”

    “. . .She said Karagiorgis “had a crazy look in his eyes, like he was on drugs or something,”

    Source:http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/Real_Housewifes_star_alleges_Paramus_man_threatened_to_kill_her.html?c=y&page=1

    I am thoroughly disgusted with this woman who purports herself as a valuable member of the autism community, yet she behaves so immaturely and irrationally, i.e. the footage of her at the Reunion slobbering, slurring, and behaving like a twleve year old, her TH last night as well as her ridiculous, childish behavior on the phone; and ALL of the documentation throughout ALL of the seasons since this show began of her imbibing with different types of alcohol at all times of the day and night. And let’s not forget her obsessive tweeting. Speaking of tweets, Jacs attributes her behavior on the show last night as “silly” and then goes on to say it was a “breaking point”, blah, blah, blah, yet she says Teresa is crazy and needs the family to give her an intervention. The woman is sick, delusional, and needs help – STAT!!:

    Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 13h
    Thanks!It was Silly!XO”@noeycam: @JacLaurita you were amazing on tonite’s show …. We were screaming go Jacqueline go Jacqueline 😍😍😍😍”
    6:04 PM – 7 Jul 13

    All Johnny’s attorneys have to do is look at all the documentation this “silly” woman has put out there on the show, on Twitter, Facebook, etc. and they will certainly be able to put her credibility in question because there is plenty of fodder out there. It is plain as day for anyone to see she is unhinged. In my mind, just the fact she allegedly took her shoe off and struck Johnny with it shows instability. Maybe she should change her plea to “Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity.”

    • vallygirl
      July 8, 2013 at 11:24 AM

      Jaquline is a wackjob! I feel sorry for her kids and her husband, I can’t even imagine what they have to put up with that freak needs serious help.
      On top of her sick head has anyone noticed her eyes? She’s had one surgery too many she reminds me of an E.T. you know the
      the ones depicted in books that have lines for
      eyes.

      • smith
        July 8, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        Hi,

        I’ve often wondered whether it was because of what she knows about the corporate bankruptcy.

        She might just be crazy enough to through everyone (including herself) under the bus if a divorce was ever even discussed.

      • adioslunatic
        July 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM

        Valleygirl, Don’t shed too many tears for Chris, he’s just as bad – if not worse. She is clearly mentally ill and rather than pull his wife and child off the show he rides the grave train off of their backs.
        He is a sorry excuse for a man. And a shady MF ( as Juicy would say)

        • July 12, 2013 at 7:01 PM

          Agree 100%. Remember the things he said about Juicy last season? That he offered to buy all of his stuff for him? He said other stuff too. Amazing how just when Jax is back stabbing her former bff, he all of a sudden decided he didn’t really like Juicy either. How convenient. Chris is horrible just like his wifey. He’s also a criminal… allegedly… (it’s only being smart to throw that in). I will say that Chris is smarter about his behavior… MUCH smarter… Jax just goes off the deep end and she’s very difficult to pull back into normalcy. That’s one thing I don’t think Chris likes… he has been looking like he’s a bit embarrassed by her.

      • July 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM

        I wonder if her eyes completely close when she is sleeping.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 8, 2013 at 12:10 PM

      The first sentence in Jacs’ blog says it all:

      “This episode made me giggle.”

      I find absolutely NOTHING funny about anyone’s behavior on this show.

    • July 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      JTG is turning on Teresa today, blaming her for the revelations on Ladies night out. I now pretty much have a hard time believing anything this guy says now. I certainly believe that Teresa was ordered to have drinks with these girls that night, but did she organize the event? No, that would be Sirens media. We aren’t that dumb, JTG. You have been trying to get your wife on that show for ages.

      • debbie
        July 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM

        I saw that on Twitter too! He is even hinting that Penny should write a blog. But how can she do that, isn’t she under a “gag” rule also?? All of these twists and turns are making my head spin!

      • Confused
        July 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM

        I also saw that and was a bit confused (still am — lol). At any rate I just read the new blog by feaux ( http://fauxrealityentertainment.com/ ). What I think is happening is that certain groups are told to show up at a certain location to discuss “x” while others are there and are there for an entirely different reason. I also saw a tweet from Penny a while back that said her gag order was over in June.

        I don’t know, but this is getting ridiculous. They all seem to lie and for sure Bravo is playing all of us for fools.

        • adioslunatic
          July 8, 2013 at 2:46 PM

          You dance with the Devil and someone has to pay the piper…

        • July 8, 2013 at 7:24 PM

          The cast members have to go to these set ups. It’s in their contracts. Penny Drossos doesn’t have to go anywhere if she doesn’t want to.#fact

      • July 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM

        At this point in time, I don’t believe a word out of his or Penny’s mouth (or their puppet Will Love). They want on that show so bad they are as bad as Meho and Poison and would sell their souls to the devil. Now Penny is going to blog on the episode? And we should believe here because why? I hope the hit the editting room floor. If they continue to be on the show that will be the final straw for me.

  5. windycitywondering2
    July 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Kim D brings it big time – without her how would the Losers’ Clubs have an excuse to trash Teresa? Siren/Bravo made a huge mistake by not keeping one of the cast members as T’s friend.

    It was so obvious that Melissa’s “girlfriends” were not buying what she was selling – all those side eyes and effort made not to laugh at her “everyone always comes up to me and asks me about how into me Joey is…” (add vomiting and trying not to gag or spit out their cocktails and laugh in Mel’s face to the list of things those girlfriends were desperately trying to avoid doing) so I am writing a book about our marriage – how to keep it hot and sexy.” Melissa should be thinking about the consequences of tossing aside old friends she didn’t want to share her “fame” with…

    And who’s name was deleted out when Jan was talking about Melissa’s ex boyfriend? I just can’t keep up with all the dirt on the real book writer!

    • July 12, 2013 at 7:16 PM

      Brian’s.

  6. Jeannie5233
    July 8, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    I just read Teresa’s entire blog – I have to say, even knowing about all the scripting and the frankenbiting and editing, this really has to be hurtful for her to see that, once again, she is blamed for what happened. What makes it even more so, is that it is automatically, without question, assumed Teresa is at the root of all this turmoil. No matter how she handles a situation, she is put in a bad light. For example, Melissa trashing the tweet Teresa sent her congratulating her on the book. For heaven’s sake, it was a lovely gesture and if Teresa hadn’t acknowledged it, she would have been taken to the cleaners for that. This woman is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.

    If this show winds up with Teresa having to apologize to all of the others and that is how they all wind up “in a good place”, then I will know this show was entirely scripted. How one person can take all of this constant bashing and not finally crack is beyond me. I would have told all of these people to go “fly” (that’s not the “f” word I would use, but I do try to be a lady) a very long time ago. And, there is NO way I would ever try to be civil or acquaintances, let alone friends. with Jacs again after the crap that looney tune has pulled in the last two years.

  7. July 8, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Jeannie, I’m with you. If Teresa has to do all the apologizing, and the others have no accountability, I am done, done, done. I will not ever watch it again. I know it is scripted, but at this point I really do believe that they are trying to force Teresa off the show. Nobody would watch it, I assure you Bravo. I think we all know what Bravo is waiting for. Juicy to do some time and for Teresa to get her own spin-off. By then, I would hope that another network would step in with a better offer. I’ll bet my bottom dollar that they promised Teresa a better edit this year. And lied.

    • Kimmers
      July 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM

      Per Bravo’s contract she can’t do another show for two years if she quits RHW.

      • July 8, 2013 at 7:25 PM

        Curses!!!

    • rfeliciat
      July 8, 2013 at 10:27 PM

      I agree.

  8. Confused
    July 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Joey G’s comment while golfing about when he’s mad/angry at his sister is just usually has sex with his wife. Who says that?!!! I guess only a disturbed individual.

    • Just Me
      July 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM

      And he said last episode they are in a “boyfriend-girlfriend” fight. WTF

    • lucille mason
      July 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM

      so does he think,he’s punishing teresa,by having sex with his wife?

  9. Just Me
    July 8, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Producers are doing their best to give Jacqueline the “good edit,” yet she comes across like a childish, irrational lunatic. And I’m sick of Melissa blaming the eye rolling of her friends and family on editing. Your sister thinks you are monster. And you don’t have real friendships because everyone thinks you’re phony.

    • July 8, 2013 at 7:27 PM

      You weren’t complaining about editing before, you transparent slut. Not you Just Me. Melissa.

  10. JerseyStrong
    July 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Why is all of Teresa’s life good, bad, and other being brought through the ringer. Why is everything that she did or not, made for her to blame? I mean seriously I only got 3 hours of sleep last night should I add to the onslaught and blame Teresa for that too. Why does everything have to be her fault, when so many people say oh no it wasn’t like that after the fact. She will be reemed for this episode at the reunion even though Kim D stated she left the table and didn’t want to hear it. I just wish she was more articulate and able to express herself. I watch the episodes and talk at my TV of the things she should be saying in the tone she should be saying it in. If she came at missy like missy came at her, missy would have a complete and total breakdown screaming like a banshee.
    Maybe I am too niave to believe that we would be able to see good television with the truth being spoken about all the others. You want to recreate the moment of Teresa’s table flip with Jac make her fraud case come out… I can bet that she will act insane and drive veiwers up. She would make Danielle look like she is sane by a longshot. Talk about Richie’s Exxon cases i bet that would get a lot more attention then “oh Rich didn’t consult me about a box or a kitchen waaa”. Missy there is something bad coming for you girl the extent cant possibly play out on TV, I just hope you go on a trashier show (i know i know) like couples therapy so I can really see more of what will be your eventual complete meltdown.

  11. teramusique
    July 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Jacqueline behaved in this episode like Ashley in Season 1!
    Even her own daughter is more mature than her now.

    Melissa looked so pathetic at her lunch with her “good friends” “oh I hope Teresa reads my marriage book because she needs it” I hope you read a friendship book Melissa because YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS! Your only friends are Teresa’s ex-friends.
    I guess Melissa finally got her greatest wish to have what Teresa had. She’s on Teresa’s show, hanging out with Teresa’s friends, lol even trying it with the book ventures like Teresa.

  12. teramusique
    July 8, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Is anyone going to mention Melissa calling Teresa a “pathological liar” in her talkin head last night???
    That literally blew my mind. We have been calling Melissa that for like a year now!

    • Confused
      July 8, 2013 at 3:36 PM

      Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black…..she’s so absurd. The only vindication is that she is crumbling before our eyes.

    • July 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM

      I just watched something about the book LieSpotting and Melissa does sooo many of these things! Shaking your head “no” when your lying, smiling when your lying and Teresa does this too but using very proper English (ie “I did not have sexual relations with that woman). Also that she always calls Teresa her “sister in law” and not her actual name…that is a giveaway that she is trying to distance herself from the truth/the person who knows the truth.

      I could go on and on: google LieSpotting or go here http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/ Really interesting stuff

      • July 8, 2013 at 4:01 PM

        Ok I couldn’t help myself. Just based on the one scene when Melissa is accused of not visiting her FIL in the hospital:

        1. Liars will repeat a question verbatim
        “What do you mean I didn’t visit him? Of course I went to see him!”

        2. Liars will take a guarded tone.
        “Why are you interrogating me?”

        3. Liars tell stories in strict chronology.
        Her whole schpeil about Joey being sick…blah blah blah

        4. Liars give very specific denials.

        5. Fake smiling
        Melissa did this with Kim D and Teresa

  13. smith
    July 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    I have to add I am disgusted that people are actually buying melissa’s book. Its preorders look quite good judging by amazon.

    For someone who “won’t got there” on T’s marriage she certainly went there on that episode… “she should read it…. she needs it etc”

    • July 8, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      Well, since Joey pre- ordered a thousand, the results are skewed. That is what he did with her music on iTunes.

      • July 8, 2013 at 10:55 PM

        Gessie … how do we know he did that on her Itunes? I know it was speculated, but never proven. I find it hard to actually believe you could order 1000 copies of something at once on Amazon and or ITunes, but heck I’ve never tried. I do think people (young uns) are buying into her crap; whereas, us old farts are saying WTF? She continually dings Tre for her cookbooks that are for real food with family stories as not being real. How is a guide (SMH) to marriage from someone only married 8 years any different than a cookbook? Teresa has recipes we can actually use and taste. Melissa has her ideas of the recipe for a marriage. I’ll take Teresa’s recipes anyday over Melissa’s (gag). But again, I do think the young crowd would buy it, I just hope not the tweens. She is taking women back so far in her thoughts on marriage, it actually makes me feel sorry for her (ok got over that quick).

  14. Dianna
    July 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Oh my. I missed a lot this last week, on vacation. We had no Internet and barely any cell service. But all my kids, in one place at one time, heaven. We had about 40 people, Laying around on the beach for a week. Our only worry was one of the kids, that had kids kept losing her 5 year old, people would bring her back to us from a mile down the beach. Crazy. I finally thru my hands up and announced in front of the husband she is to far out wont come back not my kid, not my problem. I stopped watching it was to upsetting. The beach was crazy, kids getting swept out to sea and ran over by cars. The grand father finally stepped in and set them straight Otherwise, nice and relaxing all the girls sit in chairs in the surf and holler at our husbands I’m thirsty, hungry or burning. We only have to get up to go to the bathroom.

    My observations on catching up : Jac is crazy. Melissa is vain. Kathy and caroline are boring. Teresa is naive Richie gross. Joe guidice kinda normal. Joe gorga mental issues.

    We are already planning next years vacation at the beach. The fireworks on the beach are awesome! This is pretty much the whole neighborhoods vacation, we just hope no one realizes we are all gone at once. Hope y’all had a great 4 th!!!

    • July 8, 2013 at 10:58 PM

      I’m glad you had fun! Sorry you had to deal with parents that did not watch their kids.

  15. embee
    July 8, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    That was an “aha” moment, wasn’t it? Similar to one of Jaqueline’s talking heads where she discusses that Teresa is narcissistic (sp?), “you can Google it.” These two are pulling accusations made about them in the blogs and flipping them onto Teresa. Soon we’ll have a TH of Kathy saying Teresa smells like fish, and Caroline will accuse her of being bitter. SMH

    • embee
      July 8, 2013 at 3:03 PM

      Oh, I was replying to teramusique about Melissa accusing Teresa of being a pathological liar. Not sure why it didn’t posted below hers/his.

      • teramusique
        July 8, 2013 at 5:40 PM

        It’s OK I saw your comment anyway (:

    • Jeannie5233
      July 8, 2013 at 7:12 PM

      teamusique and embee – just proves the castmembers do read the blogs and the comments! 🙂

    • July 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM

      I believe Jax accused Teresa of being a sociopath… or a psychopath. I’m 99% sure it was one of them and not a narcissist.

  16. Jeannie5233
    July 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    I know I am in the minority here but I, for one, really do want to see what Penny has to say and then make up my mind as to what is the REAL TRUTH. I don’t care who is doing what for whatever reason. I think she does have some information to share – I want to know what it is. I am tired of being played by Bravo and the cast and wading through all the bullsh*t. Every single one of these people are famewhores, clawing and climbing over each other to get to the biggest piece of pie and that includes Teresa to some degree. Even this retreat crap is so fake!

    • Confused
      July 8, 2013 at 3:40 PM

      I’m with you. I want to hear what she and Jan have to say. We’ve heard what Kim D has to say, not let’s hear from the rest of them. My business mentor once told me to always listen to all the gossip in the office, because usually there’s a morsel of truth to it and you know where to go for the truth and who to stay away from.

      I guess inquiring minds want to know.

      • jersey
        July 8, 2013 at 6:47 PM

        Penny and Johnny were used by Bravo for information only. I think they might offer Jan a spot as a friend of an housewife next year. They can replace Jax and Kathy for Jan and Kim D.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 8, 2013 at 7:07 PM

          If Bravo doesn’t, won’t or can’t give up that information, I hope Penny and Johnny do because I believe they do have information that would be very relevant to what has been going on for the last two and a half seasons. I want that information so that I, for myself – a person who I consider fairly reasonable, intelligent, and believes in honesty – can weed out fact and/or fiction.

          For all I know, what the Greeks have is really smoke and mirrors but I want the opportunity to make that assessment for myself and I will be amongst those who will call BS if I see it. I take offense from Bravo dangling carrots and then pulling them away. I have had it. All I care about is the truth now – that is what started me on this path – to find out the truth. That is also the reason Fame started this blog. Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass who or what the truth exposes at this point. I don’t like being lied to whether by individuals or by larger entities.

          Jersey, please know I do value your insight and your opinions. Please do not take this as aiming my frustrations on you as I am not. I am just sooo frustrated with this show. I am aiming it at the powers that be who think the viewers and the fans are all freakin’ idiots and can’t figure out we are being hoodwinked into believing a rainbows and unicorns happy ending.

          • Tassie devil
            July 8, 2013 at 7:36 PM

            Hi Jeannie

            Jeannie I have been up and down with the Penny and Johnny scenes etc, and would like them to come forward with the truth as well I cannot see to succesful business people and parents have this hanging over them, it is not far to their children and families. I watched this episode and then went on the rounds twitter and Fames past blogs the Teresa and Penny thing is so WEIRD.

            Jeannie do you have any thoughts on Jennifer, my gut instint tells me would I want you to be my friend?

            Melissa affair yes I believe it happened, but lately I see she is friends with one of Bryans best friends Frankie I may be wrong but something is just not sitting right with all of them

            • Jeannie5233
              July 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM

              Frankie Edgar is a MMA fighter who is part of Bryan’s circle of friends. Melissa and Josephine know “OF” him because he is well known locally. He had a fight this weekend in Vegas and that’s why Melissa tweeted support for him.

          • July 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM

            I had a brilliant response written and my stupid Kindle deleted it … sigh. Jeannie, I respect your opinion and at one point in time would agree with you, but not now. I wouldn’t believe a word out of their mouths or what is on Penny’s golden phone. They want fame so bad they will shift in the wind however it will get Penny a spot on the show, if they think Bravo/Sirens would like it. This would include dropping any potential lawsuits in order for them to play to “the script”.

            They are pond scum on the same level as the Marcos.

          • Confused
            July 8, 2013 at 11:11 PM

            Again, I agree with you. I too would like to get more information so I can make up my own mine about the truth is/isn’t. After watching the show, reading the blogs and a few tweets, I actually feel kind of dirty — like when you buy something someone has said and find out you’ve been conned.

            • Confused
              July 8, 2013 at 11:14 PM

              **my own MIND”

    • happylady
      July 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      I feel the same Jeannie, everyones a what’s in it for me type, some to a certain extent far more then others!

    • Calypso
      July 8, 2013 at 7:28 PM

      Jeannie, I completely understand. There was a time when I wanted to hear what Penny had to say but now I’m finding it hard to care. During last nights show – I lost my passion and extinguished any hope of change. I’m not one to just Quit but damn shouldn’t I at least care. While I love watching Teresa it’s just not worth the aggravation or toleration of the rest of them. Bravo will never change and reveal the truth about Melissa.

      Deep down, I’ve known the truth but I like many others I hate to be wrong and held out for a bit more proof. This morning I realized that I have always known what I needed to know.

      I don’t trust Teresa completely – even if I totally believe her. I believe she would do and say things to be close to her brother, if for nothing more than to make her father happy. I don’t fault her for it but to say I completely trust her now would be a lie – especially in front of the cameras.

      Who do I trust? I trust Bryan. Why? Because, he has shown himself to be true and he hasn’t wavered. The truth doesn’t need to be said out loud to be staring you in the face. He said it best when he said nothing at all. The facts have been proven by the threats made against him. Why worry what anyone has to say if you are so innocent.

      I applaud Bryan’s strength and character for not involving himself in this mess when others so eagerly and willingly jumped in head first. I must also give him props for using his head (and not the one behind a zipper) when he chose not to remain involved with this skank named Melissa.

      Pussy-whipped isn’t a word that comes to mind when I think of Bryan and obviously sex with her wasn’t filling the cracks in that relationship. However, handing out commitment free parking lot blow jobs screams something is missing in your marriage and in your bedroom – Melissa.

      The fight that took place with JTG is further proof that a truth needs to remain hidden. What does JTG have or know that would provoke such an attack? At this point – I know of nothing other than a big mouth – so why? JTG – has done nothing worthy of my respect. He’s a fence jumper and while he might have information – I believe he’d sell out for a price.

      I sort of believe the same of Penny, but something about her makes me think she’d rather be right than rich or famous. My suspicion is that she’d out Melissa despite the agreed up game plan and would go against her husband to do it. We’ll never see the fight between Joe and JTG but nothing sends a bigger STFU message to a wife than an attack on her husband. Funny that Juicy didn’t get violent over cheating rumors but Josephine – yep!

      The Twitter Attacks – Why? Everyone was turning on and attacking everyone else. When they attacked Fame I knew they were desperate to hide something. Who started it and why? That’s a question with a variation of answers but the root of it was Melissa, in one form or another it was all centered on one person – Melissa. Again why? I’m not really asking I’m just making a point because I know why.

      I have no doubt Melissa cheated and nothing now will ever change my opinion. I can only pray that Bryan is spared any further involvement and that God continues to provide him the opportunity to spread his faith, love and inspiration with us. My loyalty and respect will remain with Bryan.

      • July 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM

        Brilliant.

      • Jeannie5233
        July 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM

        Calypso – I have always respected what you have to say and how you say it – you never fail me. Thank you for being you.

      • July 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM

        Standing ovation!

      • July 8, 2013 at 7:57 PM

        Love your thoughts and completely agree.

      • rfeliciat
        July 8, 2013 at 10:39 PM

        @ Calypso…maybe I’ve had too much of the Teresa kool-aid but I do believe what she says. I believe she does want to mend things with her brother, even if it’s in the name of their father. From what I’ve seen, she’s been the same every season. I do, however, think she’s being more reserved in her interactions with the rest of the cast members because of the back lash she’s gotten but who’s she to trust now? I do agree with the rest of your post though.

  17. dookie56
    July 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Agree, Jeannie.

  18. Monique
    July 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Just curious and I hope someone has the answer. I was on a thread for the Housewives NJ and this lady was saying that if Melissa and Joe are such good people why isn’t Melissa accepting to Joe Gorga’s child that he had with a black woman. I told her she has it confused with Melissa because some people think Melissa is mixed with black and she said no Joe had another child outside his marriage with a black woman. Is this true?

    • Anonymous
      July 8, 2013 at 5:11 PM

      I totally doubt this is true—it would have been blown out of the water a looooong time ago! Also, I doubt it bc 2 reunions ago, when the discussion came up about Joe Giudice’s language Melissa tried calling him out for using “two words” and Kathy clammed up and Teresa started spazzing at both of them saying that all of their husbands “talk like that…” (which I 100% believe Teresa) and it was obvious Melissa was trying to call him out for the “F-word” and the “N-word”, by my take. But it got edited(surprise)!

    • RedVelvetCake
      July 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM

      Monique here is the artcle about lil Joey Marco’s son he had with a black female who is friends wih danielle http://www.babble.com/celebrity/rhonj-reunion-is-teresa-giudices-nephew-really-joes-lovechild

      • Jeannie5233
        July 8, 2013 at 6:40 PM

        This article refers to Joe Giudice, not Josephine. It is in reference to when Danielle said to Teresa “Did you acknowledge your nephew?” We know now that she meant Melissa’s son but at the time back in 2010, it was speculated Joe Giudice had a love-child. I find this outlandish and really reaching, trying to, once again, discredit Joe. The mother or someone would have come forward by now – the Giudices would have no amount of hush money in comparison to a social outlet who would salivate at this story.

        In my opinion, not only is this story bogus, whoever started it back then is despicable. Enough already.

      • drews momma
        July 8, 2013 at 11:39 PM

        Red velvet cake that article makes this child out to be Joe Goudice’s child not Joe GORGA’s. BTW have you tried the cupcake wine by Red Velvet? Sounds yummy!

    • July 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      Please, that video footage disappeared before Joey Gorga hit the sink. By. Man who was being restrained by the way. But I have to wonder. Why did he not call911 after the fight and have them arrested.

      • July 8, 2013 at 8:28 PM

        Money, silence and a spot on the show.

      • Jeannie5233
        July 8, 2013 at 8:53 PM

        He went to the police station immediately after he left and filed charges. Police were not called. It is believed producers were afraid because they had been denied proper permits to film and the place was packed over-capaciyt. Here is an excerpt from the follwing article from Fame:

        https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/joe-gorga-chris-laurita-and-jacqueline-laurita-charged-in-assault-case-against-johnny-the-greek-karagiorgis/

        Joe Gorga was the first to confront JTG, asking him, “Who’s telling you all this info”, and Joe had security get behind JTG and apparently this is when Joe took a shot or lunged at JTG, who tossed Joe off of him and onto the sinks (which is how they got broken). Joe threw the first punch and then Chris charged at JTG, shouting something like, “You made fun of my son”, which is how the rumor started; JTG replied, “I didn’t say sh-t about your son,” and when JTG turned away, Chris took a cheap shot at him and Jacqueline hit him in the forehead with her stiletto type shoe. In self-defense, JTG tossed Chris into the wall. Security tackled JTG, and JTG shouted, “You’re all a bunch of f-cking p-ssies, swinging at people being held.” JTG didn’t get carried out, he walked out, and Bravo security (off duty cops) apologized, saying, “It wasn’t supposed to go down this way.” JTG went immediately to the police station to file a report, where they took pictures of his injuries.

        • July 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM

          I’m sorry Jeannie, I thought then and continue to now who in their right mind would leave the scene without calling 911? I get what was in the Fame story, but why did Penny not call 911? Why did their friends not call 911? Shame on the producers for not calling, but why did they not? I don’t buy it as JTG was on Twitter way too quick. I’m not drinking their koolaid they are and have been trying to sell. I don’t buy Bravo’s either, but certainly don’t the Greeks.

          • Jeannie5233
            July 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

            That’s okay mzjules – you don’t have to apologize for your thoughts and opinions and I do respect them. You have every right to feel as you do. We all approach things differently. It’s what makes life interesting and, honestly, I do welcome differing opinions. Like I said, I know I’m in the minority here – it’s all good!! 🙂

  19. corky21
    July 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Did you notice that in the last scene, Melho deep throats her husband for a few seconds to show what a hot, solid marriage they have. Then after Kim leaves and Gorilla says you know where you can put those lips later, she says, “zipit”. Hmm. if she was the hot, sexy, wife who she portrays, and did in front of Kim, why then does she say zipit. Why didn’t she say, you know it babe, later, or something like that? And why did she say she was happy her kid was a cock blocker and slept in the bed with them first season? She’s such a fake.

    • Dianna
      July 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM

      The PDA only happened because he was mad at his sister. Sorry couldn’t resist pointing that out.

  20. Just Me
    July 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    On another note, how desperate did it sound when Caroline told Albert “no woman is going to love you more than me.” Most awkward conversation ever filmed for Jersey housewives.

  21. corky21
    July 8, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    We had been seeing clips of the retreat with Melissa on her knees begging Tre to stop hurting her, that’s classic, make a big show and everyone will believe you are the victim. Then we see Guidice throwing Gorilla to the wall, but what we didn’t see until last night is what preceded it, Once again Gorilla calls his sister a nasty name, and she is shocked, and then walks out and tells her husband. Then Joe Guidice comes in to yell apologize, and Gorilla charges him like a bull. This is exactly what happened in the first episode with the Gorga’s. He calls Teresa’ garbage, Tre backs away, her hubby comes in to say something to Gorilla, but Gorilla charges after Guidice first.

    Do the Gorga’s not see what animals they are and how they behave?

    I was laughing so hard after Gorga flew into the wall like a feather! LOL.

  22. yup
    July 8, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Joe Gorga initiated the physical violence at his son’s christening, which is a fact because it was filmed and we all saw it. The previews for next week’s episode show Joe Gorga initiating physical violence with Juicy.

    So it’s not hard to believe JTG’s claim that Joey physically attacked him at the recent salon party. It doesn’t matter what JTG says though, because it was taped.

    Does anyone have an update on this case? I don’t see why a judge wouldn’t find Joey and Jac guilty since they’ll be able to view it all on tape.

  23. Anonymous
    July 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Does anyone know how to see comments from Bravo blogs on tablet. I am only able to read comments on laptop. Thanks

  24. July 8, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    I’m just in the middle of watching last night’s episode now so I haven’t read the blog yet or the comments however I had to get out before I forget. Jax keeps claiming that Teresa wanted her to call out Melissa on the stripper thing. How? How would Jax call her out? How would she know anything about Melissa at that time in her life? I don’t believe it. How could Jax do that without it looking extremely obvious that Teresa had something to do with it? On the other hand, let’s say Teresa did ask her… why WHY why would she say anything about it? What a horrible, terrible friend. I don’t care if they aren’t friends any longer… they were friends at one time. If I were a friend of Jax now (heaven help anyone who is) I wouldn’t trust her enough to tell her “boo.” Then she has the nerve to say she has nothing to do with Teresa’s family’s problems. What does she think she’s doing by saying that? UGH I can’t stand her.

    Have to throw in that Richie is a disgusting pig. And while I think it is wrong to talk about someone’s looks, I somehow don’t feel bad about saying that he is repulsive to look at too. While I’m at it, Joey is an a$$.

    Going back to watch the rest of the episode. Have a good night all. mwahhhhh

  25. Rachel
    July 8, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    I find it weird that Tre’s parents NEVER film with Mel and Joe unless Tre is there. I thought Mel said they came over to their house ALL the time….such a liar.

    • charok
      July 8, 2013 at 9:44 PM

      Good catch @Rachel!! Since you brought that up, I hardly can think of a time I have seen Dad and Mom Gorga filming w/ Joe and Melissa unless Tre is present!

  26. Sackem
    July 8, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    I LOVED Teresa’s blog and I LOVE the idea of Missy getting a taste of the medicine she happily doles out. I LOVE the fact that someone close to her, someone she trusted who she was having issues with has come out to share secrets, whether they are accurate or not because that is exactly what Joey and Missy did to Teresa. Can anyone give me a KARMA?

    “. And when an accusation as disgusting as giving BJs is being discussed on national TV about your own sister-in-law, no matter how much you “don’t like her,” I think what most people would do is: immediately get up and walk away, reach out to their family to give them the heads up since the last time this happened it caused such a divide, and maybe not tweet that “It was a good night” so that your brother and his wife don’t think that you enjoyed hearing this.” – can we take away the BJ reference and replace it with bankruptcy, talking about husbands dropping c-bombs, people crying for you to be burnt at the stake. Why does she hold Teresa to a higher standard than her own behaviours?

    I’m yet to see the ep but it sounds like we catch Jac in a lie. LIAR!! So what else is she lying about in the onesided chess game she’s playing with Teresa? I nearly choked when I read that she doesn’t want to be in all the drama: cue the Ashley quote re drama and her mother. It’s pure folly! Jac’s obviously on more than a cup full of Bailey’s a day if she expects us to believe she’s anti Kim D!

    Can I just say, I don’t want to hear any more fellatio stories. I don’t want to hear Missy’s oral stories, that fat chicks give are BJ queens ( I find this as offensive as Greg’s loose arsehole so let’s see what Andy, the all powerful Oz makes of it particularly as it seemed Chris too the words out of Caroline’s mouth- oh wait, that would be expecting too much as we are just women). I don’t want to see Joey shove his penis in Missy’s face and I don’t want to see Wakilie Wood!

    Moma, how was the christening?
    Our Little Ava is growing so nicely and she is one happy kid – that’s not Zmummy bias either! She’s all smiles and rainbows this baby. Her new method of communication is through strained grunts, tight cuddles and opened mouth kisses. She cracks me up!

    • Sackem
      July 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM

      Oh and dancing to Blurred Lines in the Jolly Jumper!

    • July 8, 2013 at 11:06 PM

      So glad to hear Ava is doing great!

      I do have a question — Does anyone know what this tweet is where Tre said she had a good night? Is it tied to that night? Ugh, Bravo and their crazy editing.

  27. rfeliciat
    July 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    All I can say is, wow. I wonder how many T-haters have actually done their research in finding out what really happened? But I guess they have no desire to expand their tiny minds….

    Wait, was that mean?

    I haven’t even gone to read the bravo comments yet, which I said a few days ago I wouldn’t but after reading the above excerpts, I just have to know what ridiculous b.s. their spewing!

    • July 8, 2013 at 11:23 PM

      I doubt it … they just like calling her Tre-Ape. I don’t think expanding their tiny minds was mean as they are let’s face it tiny minds. They say Teresa masterminded all of this, but oh yeah she’s dumb as a doorknob? Which it? She’s either dumb or brilliant?

      Do I think Bravo gives them all different scripts/talking points yep. Does Bravo try to nail Teresa at every opportunity yep.

      I will watch next week as I want to see Juicy nail Joey. Beyond that I’m bored as it is soooooo fake.

      • rfeliciat
        July 8, 2013 at 11:49 PM

        Lol – fantastic. Apparently, Teresa is as dumb as a bag of rocks but a master manipulator (I almost spit out my wine when I read that comment last week).

  28. Just_G
    July 8, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Hello All
    Long time reader first time poster.
    I am wondering how much Melissa and her sisters have talked about what was taped for the show and what exactly they are going to say to show a supportive family. The reason I mention this is because on Melissa’s sister Lysa’s Twitter she used the hashtag #Unbreakable about them supporting the book. In this weeks episode Melissa mentions Joe and her are “Unbreakable” and she also retweeted someone who said Unbreakable and Untouchable, coincidence? I think not!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 9, 2013 at 11:52 AM

      Hi Just_G! Welcome here! 🙂

      • Just_G
        July 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM

        Thank you Jeannie5233…Happy to be here

  29. Laker
    July 8, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    I wonder if Bravo is expecting us to make our own conclusions or if we’re still supposed to be against Teresa. The looks on her friends’ faces were pretty priceless and Melissa looked like a moron. Also, her idea of what a “good” marriage is downright insulting. Didn’t know looking good and being a sex doll was the foundation of a healthy marriage, but okay. Also, Teresa CLEARLY looked unhappy and uncomfortable in that situation with Jan but I think it’s her being a good employee. Also, do you think Kathy is trying to find redemption this season? She looks unhappy and annoyed most of the time and doesn’t seem to be going along with the hate train as much as usual. Jac is legit a psycho, I feel sad, I used to love her. Ashlee makes a lot more sense now because if I had to deal with that crazy I’d be one embittered brat too.

  30. July 9, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    This was one of Teresa’s best blogs evah!

  31. July 9, 2013 at 4:49 AM

    Jacqueline, you criticize Teresa for being friends with people who you say have negative things to say about Melissa, don’t like her or “have it out for her” and you say that if Teresa had any loyalty she wouldn’t be friends with them but don’t you remember when you were friends with Danielle? I remember you saying that Caroline and Dina’s issues with Danielle were their own and no one was going to tell you who you could or couldn’t be friends with. I also remember seeing you many times sitting there while Danielle talked poorly of you SIL and family and you were quiet and other times agreed and chimed in. In fact didn’t you let your friendship with Danielle cause a rift between your husband and his sisters? This is all very hypocritical coming from you.

    • Sackem
      July 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM

      BINGO!

    • Anonymous
      July 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      That’s all Jac does is talk about Teresa, she talks to everyone all the time about Teresa, even in her interview by herself. Everytime you see her it is Teresa, Teresa, Teresa. Jac is soooo jealousy. Teresa is a strong woman and can handle herself. Jac is all about feeling sorry for herself, she is fake inside and out. Teresa put these people behind you girl. They are a waste of time along with that scum Melissa.

  32. Jeannie5233
    July 9, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    And the onslaught on Teresa and Joe Giudice continues!!! I would love to know who is behind this DAILY campaign at RadarOnLine against the Giudices – if they are in such a good place, why is ROL playing up Teresa so much as the villian in all of this. Is it Bravo, leading us up to the “climactic” ending that Teresa finally comes around and sincerely apologizes to everyone for her evil ways? Or is it Jac’s soldiers or herself once again feeding ROL her web of lies? Or is it the Marco camp?

    Either way, I don’t know who watched the clip and then wrote this article, but it is clear as day Josephine is the one who rushed Joe Giudice; not the other way around, They obviously need to get their eyes checked.

    “The Feud Gets Physical! Teresa Giudice’s Husband Throws Punches In Brawl With Her Brother
    Posted on Jul 8, 2013 @ 9:35AM | By radarstaff

    So much for brotherly love. Teresa Giudice‘s feud with her brother Joe Gorga and his wife Melissa escalated from name-calling to punches at a recent family “healing” retreat gone bad in newly released clips of the July 14 episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey.

    Teresa had planned the family retreat with her cousins Kathy Wakile and Rosie Pierri. But instead of mending the family tensions, the time away appears to have made things worse.

    “You are poison!” Melissa Gorga screams at Teresa in one clip of the upcoming episode.

    Her husband, Joe, tells a retreat facilitator, “I appreciate everything you’ve done. At this point it’s a waste of time.”

    And that sets Teresa off. “You are disappointing our family!” she screams. “Stick with your sister. Blood is thicker than water.”

    Joe simply shakes his head, repeating, “Shame on you.”

    While Melissa sulks in the background, Teresa, says, “You’re believing strangers over your own blood! Get balls. Be a man. Stick with your blood.”

    Joe replies, “I’m not sticking with scum like you.”

    Teresa, stunned, later tells her husband, Joe Giudice, what her brother said, and that’s all it takes to get tempers flaring.

    Ostensibly hoping for an apology, her husband runs back into the room and starts throwing punches at her brother.

    Sadly, that was not the first time the two have traded blows: They famously attacked each other at the christening for Joe and Melissa’s son, Joey, back in 2010.

    Could the family feud possibly get any worse? Find out on Sunday night at 8/7 pm central on Bravo and stay tuned to RadarOnline.com.”

    I wouldn’t be staying tuned to ROL with this kind of “reporting”. Clearly biased AND wrong!

    • July 9, 2013 at 8:17 AM

      It is the most bizarre take on events ever. I’ve been reading them and not one “article” has an ounce of truth to it.

    • July 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      Surprising that the comments are not very favorable to Melissa and Josephine. Radar Online is owned by American Media. These are some of their publications.

      The National Enquirer
      Star
      The Globe
      National Examiner
      Country Weekly
      Muscle & Fitness
      Muscle & Fitness Hers
      Shape
      Men’s Fitness
      Flex
      Natural Health
      RadarOnline.com
      Ok!

      This is there website. http://www.americanmediainc.com/ Unfortunately I do not buy their publications, so I cannot boycott them.

  33. July 9, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    Most of the responses I saw did point out the inaccuracies of the blog. Of course you have the Tre haters who have nothing worse to say about Teresa than talk about her hairline. She has no skeletons in her closet!

  34. Ket
    July 9, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Melissa is getting all negative comments on her bravo blog!

  35. Jeannie5233
    July 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Happy Holly Daze – as per your request I am posting Melissa, Teresa and Jacs’ blogs for you because of your situation lacking television and limited access to the internet due to your husband being furloughed. Hope everyone else bears with me!

    “Melissa: “I Don’t Know Who to Trust”

    Melissa couldn’t believe all the rumors being spread about her.
    20 hours ago

    Hello, everyone. I’m just back from Orlando. We had a fantastic trip. Performing at Red Hot & Boom was an amazing experience, and I’m so grateful to have been a part of it. Thanks to everyone who came out, and for all your kind Tweets. I’ll have a live video of the performance on my website this week!

    It wasn’t fun to come home to this episode. I honestly have no idea where to start. My head is still spinning. At this point, I don’t know who to trust. I don’t know what to believe. Everyone seems to be motivated by her own purposes. Somehow, that always means gossiping and spreading lies about me. I don’t go looking for drama, but if someone insults or lies about me, I have to defend myself. At this point, I’m sick of doing it. I just want the B.S. to stop.

    I should have seen it coming. I write about marriage, so I’m accused of cheating. If I wrote about gardening, I’d be accused of planting plastic trees. I should write about friendship, something like, “The friends you make as a lonely teenager are not necessarily who you want in your life later on.” I thought I was being a good friend keeping ties long after we’d grown apart. Good intentions can get you stabbed in the back. It hurt to live through it, and to watch it play out. I’m still a bit in shock.

    I’m not going to defend myself against what was said about me. I’m innocent of every disgusting thing those scheming ladies cooked up about me. I know who I am, and what I’ve done. My family and friends know it too. Like I said in the episode, I don’t like to put everything on Teresa and I DON’T. But there is something to be said about the company you keep. And when an accusation as disgusting as giving BJs is being discussed on national TV about your own sister-in-law, no matter how much you “don’t like her,” I think what most people would do is: immediately get up and walk away, reach out to their family to give them the heads up since the last time this happened it caused such a divide, and maybe not tweet that “It was a good night” so that your brother and his wife don’t think that you enjoyed hearing this.

    You’ll see my frustration play out on next week’s episode… the road to recovery.

    XO,
    Melissa”

    “Teresa’s ’50 Shades of Black & Blue’
    Teresa reveals her potential memoir title.
    Jul 8

    50 Shades of Black & Blue

    I’m thinking of writing a new book about my life (since apparently writing four cookbooks doesn’t count…). I’m going to call it 50 Shades of Black & Blue.

    In it, my own family members and friends I’ve had for 10 years turn on me. They hate me and hate on me like it’s their full time job. They sit around every day talking about me non-stop, even when I’m not there. They talk and talk and talk some more about how obsessed I am with them. They bang their hands and wave napkins and cackle about how crazy I am.

    Meanwhile across town, people with cute 1950s names — Penny, Jan — that own salons come up to me saying they want to carry Milania Hair Care. Of course, I listen. Then they start talking trash about my sister-in-law. Of course, I stop listening. I get up and leave. Doesn’t matter though, because I am invisible now.

    My family hears about the rumors and blames me. I am to blame for everything: when their ex-bosses and ex-boyfriends talk about them, when their friends stop liking them, when their house and records and books don’t sell. It is all my fault. Along with eclipses and the economy.

    It does hurt that my family always assumes the worst of me. It hurts when they call me names. It hurts when I see tabloids with the “inside scoop” on my parents, my in-laws, and my marriage. But what can I do? Nothing because it’s only fiction. Right?

    My most recent book Fabulicious! On the Grill is definitely nonfiction and full of fun. And real words, not just recipes. Here’s the one I used tonight when I couldn’t stand watching TV anymore. If you want more, pick up a copy at your local bookstore or Amazon: http://amzn.to/RtCq8e.

    (The rest of Teresa’s blog includes a recipe and is about her cookbooks.)

    Tanti Baci,
    Teresa xx”

    “Jacqueline Laurita
    The Phone Fight with Teresa

    Jacqueline gives her side of the blowout at the boutique.
    Jul 8

    This episode made me giggle. I remember the frustrations I felt at the time, because for so long Teresa had been out of sight, out of mind. Then all of a sudden her name kept popping up everywhere around me, and everyone kept talking about her and their family issues. Maybe it was because all of a sudden we were all together again. But who knows. I will try to take you back to how I was feeling at the time.

    It just seemed odd to me that, miraculously, Teresa wanted to make an effort to resolve everything with her family, after I had been trying to make that happen for two years prior! Why now? I wasn’t buying into the sincerity of it all. At the time, I felt like it was all for show and not for real. On top of that, I was getting increasingly annoyed, because I heard that Teresa kept talking about me behind my back saying I was stalking her at “her” gym and blaming me for all of her family fighting. It annoyed me so much, because I knew that I had done so much to try to bring her family back together, and not only was it not appreciated, I somehow became the a–hole, and I felt like Teresa wasn’t taking any accountability for any of her own actions to cause the rift in her family.

    When I heard Teresa on the phone say, out of her own mouth, that it was my fault she and her family were fighting, I couldn’t hold back anymore. I grabbed the phone from Kathy and asked Teresa to stop saying that to everyone and to take some accountability for her part in that mess. It escalated pretty quickly from there.

    It got pretty heated and out of control on both ends. It was a ping-pong match of insults. I was imitating what Teresa said to me on the phone in my interview when I was saying, “You’re a liar, liar!” When I was talking to Teresa, she kept saying, “La, la, la, la, I can’t hear you, la, la, la.” LOL! Looking back, we both sounded and acted a little silly, but when you’re in the moment, everything just flows out. LOL!

    I was still so hurt and upset by the whole thing and my suppressed feelings and frustrations were starting to come to the forefront. I am sorry that Kathy got caught in the crossfire, but hey, I’ve been caught in theirs before as well.

    When I heard Teresa had been with those catty girls she called her friends talking about Melissa, I couldn’t help but go back to what I knew last year. It appeared to me that Teresa was playing innocent again and letting her “soldiers,” as I called them, be her voice, in order to expose Melissa or make up lies about her in a way that would ensure nobody would like her or buy her new book. I kept thinking that if Teresa knew that these girls were on national TV trash talking her sister-in-law with those defaming accusations that she would want absolutely nothing to do with these girls again. It’s one thing to listen to them behind closed doors, but this salacious gossip was obviously being spread nationwide. Instead, it seemed as though Teresa embraced them.

    Believe me, I totally get not wanting to get in the middle of someone else’s fight, because that is the way I am. I may listen to people talk out their frustrations, but I try to stay neutral and fair while I try to understand both sides. I try to get each person to see each other’s point of view. I guess it confused me and made me wonder why Teresa remained so close with these girls when she was always preaching loyalty to family. It just didn’t seem like she was playing by her own rules.

    At Portabello’s during couples’ night, when you see me pinching my nose, I was not insinuating that Kim D. was sh–. I plugged my nose, because when I heard Kim was there with some girlfriends, I immediately smelled trouble brewing and I was implying that I believed sh– was about to go down. It was a surprise to all of us that they were there, and I wasn’t sure if it was by coincidence or not.

    Teresa’s bestie, Kim D., can definitely stir up trouble at times, but she will own up to what she’s done when confronted and almost always apologizes for it. She’s actually not a bad person once you get to know her. She can make me giggle at times. She has been through a lot in her life and she’s always worked hard as a single mom. When you talk to her, you understand her. Every single one of us, including Melissa, still shop at her store, Posche.

    Everyone was annoying me so much about going on this retreat! I felt like this was more about Teresa mending things with her family and I had no place going there. I would only be a distraction. I also didn’t want to invite Teresa back into my life again at that time. I was consumed with other things, and I didn’t want to get caught up in all the B.S. again. But it’s so hard to avoid that when we were all in each other’s lives the way we were. Our paths couldn’t help but cross again.

    Stay tuned to see how it all plays out. I think you will be surprised.
    Best wishes to all! XOXO!”

  36. Jeannie5233
    July 9, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Happy Holly Daze: Here are Kathy and Caroline’s blogs:

    “Kathy Wakile
    Jacqueline Wasn’t Ready for the Retreat

    Kathy thinks that in hindsight they shouldn’t have pushed the Lauritas to come on the trip.
    21 hours ago

    Hi! Happy Birthday America!
    (The beginning of Kathy’s blog is all about her celebrating the 4th with her family and not relevant to the show.)

    Now on to the show…

    Having a test kitchen is amazing, but like anything new it takes a minute to get acclimated. All of the sudden I have a lot of space and it’s SO quiet! I’m used to everyone getting in my way, asking for this or that, and tasting my new creations. Finding balance isn’t as easy as one would think, but I am doing my best and as Rich and I always say, keep living and learning — life’s journey is what you make of it; thank you Rich, I love you.

    I know you all think Rosie is tough, but I know her better than anyone! She really is all bark with that tough exterior, but on the inside she’s all heart. You know, tough on the outside, soft and sweet on the inside, kind of like cannoli, coconut, Italian bread, bagels, truffles, etc. Mmmm, all that sounds good, don’t you think? Rosie always cracks me up, but as she’s telling me about her meeting with Teresa, I’m laughing because she gets so heated and then she laughs at herself. She’s all in for the retreat and signs me and Rich up too! Hey, wait a minute!

    As for Joe Gorga and his bright ideas… Pole dancing, really!? For me, some things are best left private. Call me crazy, but that’s how I feel and that’s that. But if you have to know, in my opinion, there’s is something sexy about a guy doing dishes and taking out the trash or drawing me a nice bubble bath and pouring me a red velvet cosmo! Now that’s pretty sexy. Girls, you’re all with me on this, right?

    Can Richie be any more sarcastic? Next…

    As we talked more about this retreat I realized that Jacqueline and Chris were really not ready to do this based on what was happening with Nicholas and his therapy. It was becoming apparent that this is more involved than any of us really even knew, and it wasn’t fair for us to keep pushing for them to come. At that time I was thinking that we ALL needed a retreat or an insane asylum (inserting the signature Wakile sarcasm as usual).

    I was thinking, now that I’ve been watching the episodes like all of you, I’m understanding more and more of what Jacqueline and Chris were really going through with Nick. It’s one thing to hear them tell you their struggles, but to actually see it as an ongoing daily process is something else. I now see how unfair it was to try and convince her to join us and expect her or anyone else to resolve their conflicts before they feel ready. At the same time, maybe it would just be better if it was just our family. Wait and see, it is unbelievable when you observe every emotion out there and more…

    Regarding shopping with Jacqueline and the phone call, let’s just say you can’t make this stuff up! I wanted her to come with me to one of my favorite boutiques. It is so great to see Jacqueline getting out and getting her sexy back. We all need to be reminded that we are more than just mommy. Girl time is a very good thing.

    We all understand that Rosie and Teresa made some progress. However, at this point I wasn’t so sure that I wanted to join them on the retreat. Teresa mentioned many times that she was not ready to move forward with me, and so I decided to step back and let it happen when she was ready. So I was really surprised to get a call from her. When Teresa asked me to come I wasn’t going to just sit there and not take the opportunity to see if we could get back to a good place for us all.

    Hang on my friends, next week we retreat to the mysterious castle. Stay with us as we find out if it’s haunted or magical. You won’t want to miss this. Keep watching, and thanks for the support!

    Lots of love,
    Xoxo Kathy”

    “Caroline Manzo
    Kathy and Melissa’s Pole Dancing

    Caroline doesn’t think Kathy and Melissa really needed to give their husbands any more encouragement…
    Jul 8

    Hello and happy Sunday! I hope you all enjoyed your Independence Day. Mine was very nice and very quiet. Al and I spent the 4th in Hoboken, while the kids had friends home in Franklin Lakes swimming and grilling on the BBQ. Life is good.

    What’d you think of this week’s episode? Nothing too crazy — no yelling, no fighting. All’s quiet on the western front, for now….

    Kathy’s test kitchen is fantastic. I think she was a little overwhelmed with the thought of it in the beginning, and when Jac and I visited Kathy, she was feeling a bit unsure of her decision to accept Rich’s gift. I didn’t see anything wrong with it. I thought it was very thoughtful of Rich to search out a venue where Kathy can bake with no interruptions and focus on taking her business to the next level. I wish her all the success in the world.

    The luncheon with Teresa and friends was strange, so was the meeting with Melissa and her friends. I don’t understand how someone can play both sides of the fence with such ease. If I were Melissa, I’d have major issues with her BFF. Lots of pot stirring going on in Jersey.

    Kudos to Kathy for taking the pole dancing lessons. She’s such a good sport and is always up for anything. Truth be told, Rich can’t keep his hands off her, so I don’t think he needs any more encouragement! As a matter of fact, I don’t think Joe and Melissa need any more encouragement either!

    Jacqueline had a lot to say this week, didn’t she? She’s been quiet for a very long time, and I guess she has a lot to say. She showed us how much in the boutique and the restaurant and in her interviews, and… Oh boy, this may be a bumpy ride…

    Al and I had a nice dinner, really, we did, really… He was a grump that night, no excuses, that’s life. I still kept him though. By the way, today is our 29th wedding anniversary, and yes, we still like each other.

    Next week takes us to Lake George and I will end on this thought: JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL!

    Thanks for watching, talk to you later! xo”

  37. July 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    So I am in the UK and I have to find the episode online to watch. I have just watched this episode today when my children were napping (keeps me away from the sink LOL)

    So I actually thought Kathy was okay in this episode, although I agree that she is pretty ‘boring’ – but by boring I mean half normal. As in just the average family who don’t really have that much crap going on in their lives. So because of this they aren’t really marvellous for Reality TV. I think she realises that Jack-o-lantern is not a full shilling and probably realises that she went against her family for the sake of TV. Rich however is just a fool. I can’t really articulate my thoughts about him at the moment. (Basing only on what I saw on this episode and taking it at face value, not past episodes, twitter or blogs etc)

    Jack-o-lantern needs to step away from the camera, focus on her son and get herself better at the same time. She needs help on many levels.

    Caroline – in my opinion has confirmed that she feels that she has interfered enough at this point and will add her two pennies worth again at a later date just to stay relevant.

    • July 10, 2013 at 12:30 PM

      Also is it wrong that I look forward to the two how’s fight?

      Plus I was wondering if the retreat is the part where Melissa and Teresa are doing the high wire walking from the season trailer?

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