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John Karagiorgis’ Lawyer Says His Client Was Set Up by RHONJ Producers and Was Invited to the Event “to Make Peace”

April 13, 2013

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Accusations fly in brawl at ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ event

The Bergen Record
April 4, 2013

The Posche II boutique’s grand opening was anything but posh when fists started flying at a “Real Housewives of New Jersey” event last weekend.

And now, village police have been fielding cross-complaints of assault and threats.

The bloody brawl erupted inside an East Ridgewood Avenue hair salon, which was not yet open, as television cameras rolled on Jacqueline and Christopher Laurita and Giuseppe “Joe” Gorga, who allegedly took on a Paramus man.

The fights have come to be expected at “Housewives” events — and Posche events in particular.

Kim DePaola, a recurring “RHONJ” character, known on the Bravo reality show as “Kim D.,” owns the tiny Posche boutique in Wayne. The group was celebrating DePaola’s second venture, where she will showcase her fashions inside a new salon co-owned by the Moxie Twins, Jenn and Jamie Dunn of Saddle Brook, also reality show veterans who own another successful salon across the street.

Saturday’s brawl was not the first time a DePaola event provided drama on “RHONJ.”

In 2009, cops were called to Posche’s fashion show at the North Jersey Country Club in Wayne after Jacqueline Laurita’s daughter, Ashlee Holmes, allegedly yanked out Danielle Staub’s hair extensions. Holmes was later found guilty of simple assault. And in 2011, a fight broke out between DePaola and Gorga outside a West New York restaurant after he accused her of orchestrating a “stripper-gate” plot to expose his wife’s alleged past as an exotic dancer.

This time, John Karagiorgis, an employee of Clifton institution Rutt’s Hut, accused the trio of attacking him.

“I was ambushed and attacked,” Karagiorgis said by phone Thursday, adding he still has “a mark on my forehead from a stiletto heel.”

Karagiorgis filed a criminal complaint with police Sunday accusing the trio of simple assault and making terroristic threats. But the reality show stars quickly fought back with their own criminal complaints, according to police, who did not provide details on the countercomplaints.

On Thursday, Laurita and husband Christopher, of Franklin Lakes, spent more than 45 minutes inside police headquarters, speaking with detectives.

Detective Chris McDowell said Thursday that no charges have been filed. A probable cause hearing will be scheduled in Ridgewood Municipal Court to determine if there is enough evidence to warrant any arrests.

Just after 2:48 p.m., the Lauritas with their lawyer, Mark McGuire, emerged from Ridgewood’s Village Hall, entered a black Mercedes Benz with tinted windows and drove off.

McGuire offered a “No comment” before getting into the vehicle, and later, did not return calls.

Online media outlets have reported that Karagiorgis allegedly made negative remarks about the Lauritas’ young son, who has autism.

“This is the type of notoriety I don’t want,” he added. “I never spoke negatively about any child.”

Karagiorgis was on hand for the boutique’s grand opening with wife Penny Drossos Karagiorgis.

Jenn Dunn, of Moxie Salon, said there was minor damage and one of her shampoo sinks was broken in the scuffle. But she downplayed the incident.

“It was really funny, because everyone was like, ‘Oh, why do you care?’ We’re just so happy that the ‘Housewives’ were with us,” said 27-year-old Dunn, whose second salon is under construction across the street from the sisters’ main shop. “We were all having a good time.”

A representative from Bravo could not be reached for comment Thursday.

Karagiorgis, however, said the incident was serious, leaving him with a broken nose, bruises, lumps and head trauma.

According to the complaint:

“The victim stated he was punched in the left eye and in the nose by Mr. Guiseppe Gorga.”

Gorga yelled, “I’ll [expletive] kill you,” as he was repeatedly punched in the head.

Gorga, of Montville, husband of “Housewives” star Melissa Gorga, and brother of co-star Teresa Giudice, then allegedly walked around the camera crew. That’s when the complaint alleges Christopher Laurita “punched the victim on the left side of the head with a closed fist.”

Laurita similarly threatened to kill Karagiorgis, the complaint alleged.

“Mr. Gorga then emerged from behind the victim and again punched him with a closed fist,” the complaint continues. “This time, he struck him in the back of the head.”

Next, the complaint says,

“Ms. Jacqueline Laurita then struck the victim in the forehead with the heel of a stiletto type shoe. Eventually, security for the television show was able to separate all parties involved without any further incidents.”

The police report states Karagiorgis “had obvious injuries to his head,” including lumps and abrasions.

Paula Phelan, head colorist at Moxie Salon, was in the other room during the brawl but said it was pretty crazy toward the end.

“All I saw was, there was a guy, he was bald, and he had a big gash on his head. And he was walking out. That’s all I saw,” she said. “One of our assistants was yelling that he had blood on his hands. He had to run and wash his hands really quick.”

Karagiorgis’ lawyer, Nicholas Sekas, said his client was set up by the show’s producers, and invited to Saturday’s event “to make peace.”

“He was assaulted and humiliated and they filmed it,” Sekas said, adding at one point, his client was being “held” for his attackers by security guards.

On March 1, while Bravo cameras rolled, Melissa and Joe Gorga had a sit-down with Penny Drossos Karagiorgis at Chakra in Paramus. The Gorgas reportedly wanted to confront Penny Karagiorgis, who allegedly has been peddling rumors about Melissa’s past. It was to Penny Karagiorgis’ North Arlington hair salon, La Chateau Allure Salon, that Kim D. took Teresa Giudice before Posche’s infamous 2011 fashion show.

“This was something that was done for a reality show gone awry,” Sekas said. “We will cooperate with the authorities because we want justice to be served. My client doesn’t want these people to get away with it.”

Sekas said more than three people were involved in the assault and called the incident an instance of “a reality show gone wild. It was done for a ratings grab.”

Jacqueline and Christopher Laurita leave the Ridgewood Police Department Thursday afternoon.

Caption: ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ star Jacqueline Laurita, along with her husband Chris Laurita (center) and lawyer, walked out of the Ridgewood Police Department just before 3 PM, Thursday, April 4, 2013.


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Caption: John Karagiorgis in a photo provided by his lawyers, Sekas & Abrahamsen, LLC (click image to enlarge photo).


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Rutt’s Hut has been featured on the PBS special “A Hot Dog Program”, numerous Food Network shows, and the Travel Channel’s “Deep-Fried Paradise.”

Abe Rutt started out small, hawking his red hots to passers-by along the highway that ran past the stand. Eventually, a sturdy brick building was erected around it featuring a bar and a dining area (the glassed-in counter and take-out room at the back of the building is what remains of the original hut). The business was sold in 1974 to Nicholas Karagiorgis, whose family still runs the restaurant with the rhyming name. The location just on the other side of the Hudson from Manhattan makes Rutt’s Hut a mandatory destination when in the New York City area. [Source]

‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ Mayhem:

  1. Sydney
    April 13, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Cracker jack, Chris La Dumbo, and JoGo needs some matters.

    • Anonymous
      April 13, 2013 at 4:59 PM

      funny how the newspaper is reporting as a fact Melissa’s past an an “exotic dancer”
      & funny how the Gorga’s ect can trash talk Ter but how dare anyone talk about the rumours around them

  2. phaiyte494
    April 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    I’ve been following your blog for a long time but have never commented before. What is with Jac’s crazy grin?? Who walks out of a Police Department grinning like an idiot? I’m surprised she isn’t carrying a paper bag with an open bottle of wine.

    • April 13, 2013 at 1:43 PM


    • NotTelling
      April 13, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      They both look like two people who just got away with something if you ask me.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 13, 2013 at 6:40 PM

      Hey phaiyte494 – glad you made yourself known – welcome 🙂

    • Klown Kardashian
      April 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM

      You see for her type, there is this little happy pill that makes you just SMIIIILEE. She looked Medicated the whole time.

    • ROSE M.
      April 17, 2013 at 1:04 PM

      I thought it was just me, but Jac does have this psycho look on her face. Its very disturbing. I used to think she was a sweet woman with a problem child (ashlee), but she is not of sound mind.

  3. JennyS
    April 13, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    I don’t get why all the fingers keep pointing back to Penny. We’ve never seen anything that indicates she is stirring the pot. I still hold out hope for JTG that he’s a good guy but I’d say he’s doing the pot stirring moreso than Penny, so why’s she getting the blame?

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 13, 2013 at 3:17 PM

      Because Penny is supposed to lead us down the trail to Teresa. Ain’t gonna happen. Penny is a finer special ed teacher , encouraging this crap is hardly her style. Bravo set up that raged out of control.

  4. April 13, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    it frankly doesn’t matter who is stirring the pot or who is trying to set up who you have to be responsible for your own actions and violence is crossing the line, im sure Jaq has a childrens book somewhere about why hitting is wrong perhaps the gorgas and lauritas need to give it another read. if their counter claims had any merit then Jaq Chris and Joe should have evidence of bruising as well which we haven’t seen I hope the courts take this seriously and these animals finally understand it doesn’t matter how angry you are or whether or not someone was invited to something or spread a rumor you don’t physically attack another human being. the end.

    • April 13, 2013 at 1:43 PM

      Where’s Gia?

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM

        Gia has finished schooling Miss Jax on the finer points of behaving like a well bred lady. Sigh. Its like pushing a boulder uphill during a landside according to Miss Gia Guidice but our intrepid tween soldiers on. Now Now she is engaged in giving two left feet MeHo lessons in dancing but le gulp, that is indeed an exercise in futility since Auntie Malovent is clearly incapable of anything but a half hearted shuffle that resembles a donkey on ice skates. Gia always persists tho. Keeps that Sunnyside up.

        • April 14, 2013 at 12:07 AM

          Love it!

    • Jeannie5233
      April 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      I agree! Where are their bruises? Oh, that’s right – they don’t have any – at least not like what we have seen of JTG’s.

  5. April 13, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    I’m cutting and pasting myself again- took me ages to write because my eyeballs are hanging out of my head!

    I can’t remember where I posted it, but I’ll be happy to finally discover, with evidence, who the liar is. For all the finger pointing and story telling we’ll get to see who has the “long nose”. It might actually bring a little resolution to the series for me. We got a Gorga on the spot and Jac, the most vocal drama queen on the show, on the stand. ( Sidenote: didn’t she say there was violence in the Guidice house with disgust?)

    I think it’s absolutely terrible that grown ups can’t use their words and resist their impulses. It’s yet another sad commentary on society – that and the fact that someone, on the production side, may think it’s entertainment. I have to ask who Bravo or the cast think the audience is? It’s the more mature audience who has a little disposable income to buy what they’re pushing but are discerning with their spend. Why would I fund a thug and a fraud with my hard earned money? Or are we the minority of viewers?

    Violence is never the answer – we learn that as children, it might get you somewhere in the short term but, eventually you have to pay for your actions. Whether or not words were uttered about a child, I strongly doubt there were, we’re meant to be more evolved than that. What am I saying? This whole show is about school yard antics. I’m starting to feel foolish for watching it! I should just watch a few episodes of COPS or WWE RAW.

    I’m so glad my boyfriend stayed out of the fray!

    Let’s see if Andy supports this seeing as though he’s so vocal with his belief system. It’s eerily quiet, you would think a situation like this would require a statement – NBC where are you?

    This seriously is harking back to the Roman Arena – can’t we just go shopping for a fabulous pair of shoes?

    Again I hope this make sense.The 2 AM feed is a killer. Long story short – they shouldn’t have raised a fist!

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM

      You said it best my dear! Why can’t we just go along as they shop for a pair of fabulous shoes. My friends and I did charity for many years for different causes that benefit kids. It was so much more hands on and fun. I’ve stood atop tables and auctioned desserts left over from bake sales and begged for bids . I’ve had to build a carnival maze out of glitter , poster paint and giant cardboard boxes. Sad because this is what real moms do on addition to 8;00 am soccer game snacks. This is not reality. Its crap from the mind of folks who never had children or even been a housewife.

      • Jersey
        April 13, 2013 at 2:26 PM

        Well said Sackem. Are you from Australia? I have a lot of family from Melbourne.

        • April 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM

          Yes, I’m true blue dinky di.

          • Jersey
            April 13, 2013 at 3:43 PM

            I went to Australia on my honeymoon back in 1990. Melbourne and Sydney are beautiful.

            • April 13, 2013 at 3:53 PM

              I’m a Sydney girl by heart, unfortunately I had to leave her a year ago. Nothing like a summer storm after the beach and a beer!

      • April 13, 2013 at 3:47 PM

        Exactly! Where’s the PTA for crying out loud?

    • JennyS
      April 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM

      Sackem I hate to give “mom” advice since everyone did that with me and none of their tricks worked, and nothing in the books worked either, but my husband and I settled into a nice schedule with our baby by accident. She was eating every 4 hours, which hopefully little Ava has gotten to at this point, and then we’d wake up the baby at midnight just as we were getting ready for bed, feeding her as much as she’d take (I pumped and put in bottles so we knew this was about 4 oz from 3 weeks old forward per feed) and she’d go until 4 a.m. Then we’d feed again at 4, and she’d go until 8 a.m. where we’d wake up. This limited us to 1 waking up time per night.

      I think a lot of people go the route of following the baby’s schedule and we sort of made the baby convert a bit to ours and really it made the first few months pass so easily. Soon she’d go midnight to 5 a.m., then midnight to 6 a.m., then midnight to 7 or 8 a.m. and voila! We were getting 8 hours sleep!

      Oh wait. Not me. Because my boobs woke me up at 4 still and I had to pump. LOL. Well, in theory this may work. Just depends on your schedule. But try waking her up before you go to bed to feed her, stuff her with as much milk as she’ll take and see how long she sleeps. Good luck!

      Now I must go slap myself for doling out mom advice when I promised I would never ever do this. Where’s Jax? Maybe she can hit me with her shoe…

      • April 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM

        Thankyou!! That’s great advice! Will give it a shot – and all advice is welcome

    • Jeannie5233
      April 13, 2013 at 6:11 PM

      Sackem – great read!

      And Jenny S, even though she doesn’t like to give “mom advice” may be onto something for you. I did something very similar with my kids myself – I weaned them onto “my” schedule and did the same thing about feeding at midnight. Before you know it, the baby was stretching out the times between feedings at night. For me it worked. That’s not to say it will for you and Ava but just letting you know that Jenny’s method can work with some little ones. Just a thought!

      • Dubbalicious
        April 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        I’m going to jump in as well. Lol..My first child was 5 lbs 13 Oz. I was feeding him every 2 hrs. He’d only take about 1 1/2 Oz per feeding. Needless to say..my nights were long. When my daughter arrived 3 yrs later, I also did the midnight feeding…thankfully I’d get a good 4-5 hrs at a time. There’s something about midnight till 5:00 that gives you a refreshed feeling vs. a more interrupted sleep pattern. I have to say 22 yrs later..I’ve often wondered if she actually slept those 5 hrs or was I much more relaxed second time around? Oh how I miss those days! When you’re in the throws of sleep deprivation it seems it’ll never end…You blink and they’re all grown up!! 🙂

        • JennyS
          April 14, 2013 at 1:05 AM

          Agree, our thinking was/is that if we go to bed at midnight anyway, why not feed her before we settle in, then see how long she’ll sleep. We got to 4 hours pretty much in the first couple weeks, which is your body’s natural sleep pattern. We all do 4 hour cycles. I had no issue waking up at 4 a.m, which was confusing because the rare nights we didn’t do a midnight feed (maybe she woke at 10 and we fed her and didn’t want to wake her again) then she’d wake at 2 a.m. and it was like torture to open my eyes. It all depends on your bedtime, but once you can get baby to stretch to 4 hours of sleep, I think you can set yourself up to be in great shape.

          Good luck!

          • love4peace
            April 14, 2013 at 7:33 AM

            wish i would have thought of this, every 2 hours for the first years for me. Sounds like a great plan and it seems to work.

            • April 14, 2013 at 9:12 AM

              I actually have trouble getting her to sleep during the day. She’ll do long periods at night 4 and six hours but then do catch up feeds during the day and fight sleep. From about lunch time it’s every two hours and she goes slow so it’s an hour feed then sitting to let her digest, a little play then boob until 8/9pm She doesn’t want to be out of my arms and dictates how and where I hold her ie must be standing. How do they come out so bossy????????? Maybe I should push the four hour feeds but isn’t the goal for them to sleep through? I usually have to wake her for one feed – she’s ten weeks.

              • JennyS
                April 14, 2013 at 9:49 AM

                I heard when they are on the boob that they may suck for a long time like that, even if they aren’t actually taking any more milk. The boob never worked for me so I had to pump it and put it in bottles, and then when it was finished, we’d hurry and replace the bottle with a pacifier and put her to bed.

                Ugh, yes, why do they want you to stand and hold them? How do they know that you’re standing vs. sitting down? ha ha!

                • April 14, 2013 at 12:08 PM

                  I know – it’s weird considering I spent my entire pregnancy laying down talking to you guys…

              • jus me for now
                April 14, 2013 at 10:15 AM


                • Aint Pittypat
                  April 14, 2013 at 10:29 AM

                  I’m with you his me. Sleep is a precious commodity to Mommies , especially, of infants. The time when they are babies passes all to quickly and you cannot get it back again. Sackem I know you must be exhausted a good deal of the time but please keep sharing . Love how much you are enjoying motherhood. And yes babies are indeed boss

                • April 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM

                  It’s very confusing because when they’re first born, you’re told to wake them for feeds but not when to stop waking them…

                  • JennyS
                    April 14, 2013 at 11:47 AM

                    LOL. For this I’m going to now give you the only other piece of “advice” I’ll ever give:

                    Trust your instincts. Your mom instincts are thousands of times better than any book or web advice out there. Sometimes I believe I truly got derailed by the books and such. You know little Ava better than anyone, you’ll totally be able to read her and what she wants or needs. She sounds like she’s on a path like my friend’s little one, cluster feeding a lot during the day and not napping a lot, and then he’d sleep through the night. It almost sounds like she’s developing her own pattern.

                    • April 14, 2013 at 12:10 PM

                      I think you’re right, my poor boobs! On the milking machine I’ll go.

                    • Aint Pittypat
                      April 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM

                      Totally agree with JennyS . The books are great but every infant is different . Trust your instincts first and foremost.

                  • jus me for now
                    April 14, 2013 at 12:04 PM

                    well i just told you now listen to me ,hehehe (celi) no all kidding aside ,we have a 1 a2 a3 yr old grandsons and we told ashley not to wake them to feed them and they all slept 4 to 6 hrs bfor awaking,but you are doing a GREAT JOB sackem just love your lil AVA.love her nam e

                    • April 14, 2013 at 12:11 PM

                      Thanks Celi!!!! And not just for the advice!! I still got my learner plates on so I appreciate every bit of advice I can get!! Hope you and your family are doing well! I’ve been thinking off you.

  6. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 13, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Fame you need to find the hell out what Faux is doing. Read her last post she posted today! She is now saying after denying that it was Teresa who wanted Melissa set up !

    • holy cannoli
      April 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM

      @ Oh no that bitch didn’t!

      What?? Is she throwing Teresa under the bus, like JTG and Penny it seems have? Well Well not surprised if that is the case, she is very tight with JTG on twitter.

      I have never ever trusted JTG or Penny, I never beleived that had all this proof of what they spewed about Messy, they have been at this shit for 2 years and we never saw any proof. I always thought they tried too freakin hard to make people think they ” knew it all”. Actually I kinda think there is a little something wrong with both of them..Strange weird obsession with Messy Marco , and beleive me I am no fan of hers!!

      With all that said though, I do not think this guy deserved to have this happen to him at this event.

      I do not blame Fredo for being upset with JTG, and everything that he has spewed about his wife, but for Fredo to go at him at this event, was all kinds of wrong. He should have dealt with this one on one 2 freakin years ago when this all started, period!

      • haydaki
        April 13, 2013 at 3:53 PM

        Holy, she’s is claiming that Teresa went up to Penny at the Posche opening on March 30th, and Penny said something to the affect of Teresa and Kim D asked Penny about Melissa’s ex. Faux’s mouthpiece is JTG, she has been tweeting him all day. I don’t know what is true, all I know is remember when Chris was his go to gal, and we see where that went. All I have to say is Johnny should be quiet right now, until all is settled.

        I will wait to see what is aired. Maybe the Greeks are trying to leak information because they may get cut from this season, who knows!! The timing is suspect to me, because Teresa had an article yesterday were she said all is good with Melissa. The Greeks are the sources for a lot of blogs in my opinion.

        Maybe now Bravo will learn their lesson about bringing in all these outside people, just to make a show. Teresa must be one bad a** woman, that they need all these people to try and make her look like the jersey devil.

        I will say though no matter what was said violence was not okay! No one deserves to be assaulted over words, and Teresa is not to blame for others actions, period!!

        • haydaki
          April 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM

          Oh and I do agree with you Holy about the Greeks talking crap about Melissa for the last two years! But, we all know they really don’t care about ANY of these people, they were just trying to get on the show gorgastyle.

          • holy cannoli
            April 13, 2013 at 4:45 PM

            Totally agree @haydaki!

        • holy cannoli
          April 13, 2013 at 4:41 PM

          Hi haydaki

          Thanks for letting me know what was said.. I will not go on that persons site, I think she is a goof, just like Queenz of media.

          I agree Teresa is not to blame for the actions of others.

          • haydaki
            April 13, 2013 at 5:16 PM

            Goof is right, lol! It kills me when they totally believe what their sources say, you have to be subjective sometimes and not really get too involved. Are you may just get played! They need to remember sources can be one sighted! I think its best to have a variety of information avenues. That’s why I visit multiple blogs, to here different opinions. This one is my favorite! Do I think Teresa’s perfect, no, but on this show she’s the only one who gets called out on anything. Why is Fame the only blog that mentions Jac and Caroline calling Penny from AZ? They don’t want to put that out there, only Teresa talks to Penny. LMAO!

            • holy cannoli
              April 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM

              Absolutely @haydaki.. It’s clear her sources are the Greeks. She is so biased it’s not funny.

              I like Fame and All About TRH. Do I always agree with what they write? No, but I don’t think they agree with what I write either, lol.
              I will say I think they do the best, Fame especially goes to the max at getting to the meat of things.

              • haydaki
                April 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM

                All of the above!

        • haydaki
          April 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM

          Sorry Holy, I got it backwards Penny went up to Teresa!

          • holy cannoli
            April 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM

            Thats ok. @haydaki

            It doesn’t matter..Who even knows if that happened. So many stories, so many sources. Who knows whats true / not true.

      • Jersey
        April 13, 2013 at 4:05 PM

        Fredo is not smart enough to fight with his mouth that is why it was not wise for Johnny to start with his wife. I have to say the Gorga’s were smart enough to get a signed contract before they started trash talking. For 2 years the Greeks were trashing Mel all over twitter and Johnny only has a black eye and a bruised forehead for all his work. When he and Penny confronted the Gorga’s face to face, it was their moment of truth to put up or shut up and they backed down and started to blame Teresa. They thought if they change their tune, Bravo would finally give them a contract.

        Bravo won’t admit it but they already made a mistake by offering a contract to the Gorgas and the Wakilies. They picked people who are only relevant when they are trashing another castmate. They were not interesting in their own right. Bravo was not going to make the same mistake again by picking the Penny and Johnny. Jennifer Dalton is very wealthy and lives in the most expensive town, Alpine NJ. Lil Kim is the godmother to her daughter. I am looking forward to meeting a new housewife like that rather than someone who still want to keep the hating Teresa storyline.

        • haydaki
          April 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

          Agree with all, except Melissa and her sisters were throwing jabs at Teresa before she came on the show.

          • Jeannie5233
            April 13, 2013 at 6:38 PM

            That’s true haydaki. That whole On Common Ground blog was outrageous. Clearly, the machinations were beginning way back then to get Melissa on the show. It took them two more years after that but they finally accomplished it.

        • holy cannoli
          April 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM

          Good post @ Jersey

          • Jersey
            April 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM


    • April 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      I just read the updated blog. You must be referring to a sentence from the blog, which Faux paraphrased when replying to a comment:

      “Teresa and Kim D approached Penny to ask the identity of an ex because of an alleged phone call that Juicy received.”

      The paraphrased sentence comes from this paragraph:

      “Production then ushered Penny Drossos to Teresa Giudice. When Teresa asked Penny Drossos to back her up that it was Penny who brought up Melissa’s past at a prior event (this Season), Penny Drossos reminded Teresa that it was Teresa and Kim D who asked Penny to confirm who Melissa’s ex was because of a phone call Juicy allegedly received.”

      Faux further elaborated in her reply:

      “The article describes one isolated incident regarding Season 5, not the the stripper incident that occurred last year in Season 4, which has nothing to do with Melissa’s ex boyfriend.”

      On April 12th, RumorFix published an exclusive interview with Teresa, and in the article both Teresa and a “source close to Teresa” are quoted. The “source close Teresa” paints an ugly picture of Penny and denies that Teresa even knows her, which is bizarre since they have filmed together in season 5, according to reports (and there are photos of them at events in season 4 and post season 4). The following are quotes in the RumorFix article from the “source close to Teresa”:

      And as for Penny Drossos, who allegedly claimed Teresa is behind the evil cheating plot, RumorFix reports that a source close to Teresa says Penny is just another sad case of a woman desperate to get her 15 minutes of fame:

      “This lady Penny has been trying to get cast on RHONJ for two years, and Teresa doesn’t even know her!” our insider reveals, adding that Penny is creating drama between the Gorgas and Giudices just to land her a spot on the show.

      The source close to Teresa also told RumorFix that Penny was talking trash to Melissa but once she saw she couldn’t get the reality star riled up, the woman went after Teresa.

      However, our source continues:

      Once Teresa got wind of this, she “flipped out because she doesn’t stand for people lying about her — she stands up for herself.”

      Teresa told RumorFix exclusively:

      “My life is blessed right now. I would never do anything to change that. I will tell you though that like in every city, there are plenty of people who want to get on the show and try to bring drama to get themselves cast. I have nothing to do with them. As long as they don’t bring the drama my way, we’re good!”


      • holy cannoli
        April 13, 2013 at 5:48 PM

        I read the rumorfix interview with Teresa and liked it very much. I do nt think it painted an ugly picture of Penny. But I could care less aboutthe woman, I think she is as shady and weird as her husband.

        I still think Faux is a goof, as bad as Queenz. Who are her sources..Hmm The Greeks!!

        • April 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM

          I think her source could have been Mario, but I’m only guessing. He was at the event and entered the salon the same time as JTG. His girlfriend entered earlier with Penny. They would have seen and heard it all.

          • holy cannoli
            April 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM

            Ohh good guess @Fame. Faux and him have tweeted today. He is buddies with JTG.

            I still think she gets her crap from The Greeks though, she is tight with them, especially JTG.

          • Oh no that bitch didn't!
            April 13, 2013 at 11:13 PM

            Fame, Noooooo! Johnny admits him and faux are friends. Why would a no body dedicate a blog to someone who has been on T.V. for no more than 3 seconds? The only people who know them is if your are in NJ or twitter. Then to get all that information?

            • RedVelvetCake
              April 14, 2013 at 12:47 AM

              oh shut up.queenz of media, aka, oh no bitch. you tweet about johnny and faux everyday,leave them alone.you mad because they verbally dissed your ass on twitter.

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 13, 2013 at 7:49 PM

        Thanks for clearing that up fame. Not on twitter so cannot speak to what was said or tweeted to be exact. I read the article however and was confused after posts above yours. Great job and thanks again for clarifying.

  7. HWAddict
    April 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    I hope John’s attorney brings and order to show cause for pre-action discovery with a restraining order to stop evidence from being destroyed. BRAVO, Gorga’s and Laurito’s all need to learn they have to be responsible for their actions.

  8. JUST ME
    April 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM


    • haydaki
      April 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM

      Someone said earlier that there are ways to tell if a tape has been altered, that there are experts for those types of things. I have no idea if that’s true. Maybe someone else on here can help us with that answer?

      • Jeannie5233
        April 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM

        Yes it is haydaki – authorities are able to determine whether a tape has been altered in any way whether it be film or sound editing.

        • haydaki
          April 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM

          Great, I’m glad that they can do that! Jeannie , I was fearing that it may be altered in some way. At least that will hopefully shed some truth on all this.

          • holy cannoli
            April 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM

            Exactly! I think everyone just wants to know the truth!

            The only truth that we seem to know is that JTG is the only one that had any kind of injuries, and that a sink was broken.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM

      As Fame reported in her previous article:

      “The court has subpoenaed Bravo to turn over the footage, unedited; and if it is altered in any way, Bravo will face criminal charges.”

      Authorities have the wherewithal to find out if the tape is altered and I am sure they will use those means. I would hope Bravo takes that fact seriously.

      • AnnieC
        April 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM

        Jeannie – I look forward to your take on Fame’s hard work! I do think we all need to hold our breath on Cohen’s team turning over an uncut tape – remember Nixon – oops it’s gone! Maybe what we can hope for is some professional body taking Cohen’s production company to task for pushing the limit regarding human decency! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I’d turn blue before the reality of reality TV is uncovered!

        • Jeannie5233
          April 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

          AnnieC – I think that Bravo is at the root of all this. They planned this whole “fight” but it got out of hand because Bravo forgot to take into account Joe Gorga only knows how to fight with his fists and they underestimated his temper. I think they also underestimated the Lauritas’ tempers and how aggressive they could get too.

          Jacs “testimony” saying Johnny would F. . .ing kill her – WHAT? Makes absolutely no sense as I don’t believe he is capable of threatening a woman like that – maybe to a man but not a woman. He is old school Greek – and Greek men put women on a pedastal. He adores his wife and he never talks like that to women on Twitter.

          I do believe, because of all the notoriety now and because Johnny’s attorneys said he wants justice done, Bravo has got a huge problem on its hands and it won’t go away quietly. What I want to know is will Bravo have charges brought against it because of their alleged role in what has happened. Will Johnny bring tcharges against Bravo (I think he should) or will the courts find enough evidence to issue its own charges. Bravo had no permit to film and according to Jacs, the “place was packed like sardines’ which could bring a fire marshall complaint. Besides all that, which is small potatoes, the real question will be if Bravo will be held accountable for allowing or playing a part in perpetrating the fight?

          This whole thing reeks – does anyone know if Kathy there?

          • AnnieC
            April 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

            And once again your take impresses me – Cohen/Bravo/NBC is in hot water – and because NBC is part of the mix makes me think it will all disappear -and yet – we all know the media is upset with NBC so time will tell – was Kathy there? Does it matter?

            • Jeannie5233
              April 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM

              Just making a poor joke about Kat reeking – ya know, Katfish?! Sorry!

              • AnnieC
                April 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

                : – )

              • Cee_See
                April 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM

                Jeannie, LOL! That’s too funny in regards to Katfish! You know, after Katfish insulted her Aunt & Uncle at the Reunion, I lost all respect for her! When I see her my stomach churns! Especially thinking of her smelling like fish! Yuck!

          • momajackie
            April 14, 2013 at 5:53 PM

            Jeannie I saw a picture of her there, she was wearing a black and white dress. Just started reading this post, forgive me if I repeat what others may have said.

        • April 13, 2013 at 9:54 PM

          All they have to do is say, and that is where the tape ends because the camera man got knocked to the ground in the melee. Voila.

        • Oh no that bitch didn't!
          April 14, 2013 at 11:05 AM

          Exactly. Some where in the middle always lies the truth. One thing all the blogs say it was a reality show scene that went awry. The thing that makes me sick is hearing from nay Sayers when telling their side; “everyone was so upset and I was like who cares, we get to meet these people. I knew something was going down because producers were moving couches and screamed, ” “is about to go down” ”
          They did not have a permit, they produced a retroactive one thinking that would let them slide. This is all sickening.

    • Anonymous
      April 13, 2013 at 7:52 PM

      That’s called Short Man Syndrome. I’ ve seen it lots of times. They feel they have been discriminated againnst because they are short. I’m 5 foot 10 inches,tall for my generation and female. Their was only one girl taller then me in second grade,by high school we were taller then a lot of the boys. Men don’t like women to be”out of their reach”.

  9. hwcrazygal
    April 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    “Gorga, of Montville, husband of “Housewives” star Melissa Gorga, and brother of co-star Teresa Giudice” So the person who wrote this thinks Melissa is the star and Teresa is the co-star? Not in my book!
    Wacko Jac is an idiot, grinning like a Cheshire cat! My money is on the Greeks with this attack and who is telling the truth!

    • Jeannie5233
      April 13, 2013 at 6:35 PM

      Good to see you here hwcrazygal! Haven’t heard from you in awhile 🙂

      • hwcrazygal
        April 13, 2013 at 7:14 PM

        Hi Jeannie, nice to see you! I have been sucked into the vortex of the Jodi Arias trial and haven’t been following the housewives. I need an intervention I think! I hope the trial is over before NJ starts up, lol.
        Teresa can say everything is “roses” with her family, but I’ll wait till I see the talking heads to see if she got “suckered again”. I have been thinking if this fighting is a prelude to what to expect from Bravo then I may have to “cancel my subscription”. .

        • Jeannie5233
          April 13, 2013 at 8:13 PM

          I couldn’t get into the Arias trial – RHONJ is dark enough, thank you very much Bravo!!

    • April 13, 2013 at 7:34 PM

      Great catch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Melissa PR.

  10. Marty
    April 13, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Bravo is to blame in all this! I know my statement has been said may times but I strongly feel that Bravo kept Penny and JTG on the sidelines a sufficient amount of time for their own agenda. Why don’t they mic everybody that enters these parties? They mic’d Penny and JTG because they do have the goods on Meho. The true stories that are out there about Meho needed to be under wraps somehow till Bravo needed them. I don’t believe Penny and JTG did anymore fame seeking than the Marco’s. It was only two seasons of RHNJ and Meho erroneously got hired 3rd season. Bravo could have easily had this same situation with Meho. Dangling Meho carrot for the goods on Teresa as they did with Penny and JTG for the goods on Meho. Bravo should have kept Meho on the sidelines. Bravo understood that a little to late with Meho. Bottom line Penny and JTG did serve Bravo a purpose. Bravo was well aware of that.

    • hwcrazygal
      April 13, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      Like Lisa (Mels sister)
      said to Bravo on twitter (and then deleted) about them coming after her sister and daring them to try again. Screen shots any1?

      • April 13, 2013 at 7:57 PM
        • Marty
          April 13, 2013 at 8:26 PM

          I guess I just would not like to see Penny and JTG get the short end of the stick in all this.

        • April 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM

          Yeah, Lysa you are so gangsta. I’m sure Bravo is quaking in their boots. What a moron.

    • love4peace
      April 14, 2013 at 7:43 AM

      even if brao did set this up, and i do believe they did. it still does not make jax, chris and joey right. you can’t hit people.

  11. Jeannie5233
    April 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Jersey –

    This is the comment you left on the last article in answer to my previous comment:

    “Jersey says:
    April 13, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Johnny has a black eye and a cut on his forehead. If you come to NJ you will see him working behind the counter frying hotdogs. He is not in a hospital getting brain surgery. Yes it was wrong that he was assulted but why would a grown man who is married with children put himself in this position. We all saw Joe’s nasty personality at the christening. Johnny should have known better.”

    Here is my response:

    For the last time, I don’t care what Johnny should have known or not known. I don’t care who owns Rutts. I don’t care if Penny owns her salon. I don’t care what methods were used by the Greeks trying to get on the show. I don’t care what the crazy ass tabloids are saying. Plain and simple, it is all irrelevant to the fact a man was beaten

    You trivialize his injuries by saying he is now back to work behind the counter frying hotdogs along with your passive aggressive dig at what he does for a living,

    You and I are wired very differently then. Because I read what you say and come away with what jumps out at me as being relevant.

    Thank the Good Lord Above that Johnny is NOT in a hospital getting brain surgery because that could very well have been the case had any of those head blows, not just the high heel of a shoe, connected in just the right way. That is what is important to me. That someone who was beaten by his fellow man is recovering – That is what is I DO care about.

    And I really don’t give a rat’s ass whether he fries hot dogs or runs a million dollar company; at the end of the day he is a fellow human being who was physically assaulted and was very lucky not to have been more seriously hurt than he was.

    You are so concerned about how Johnny should have known better. Where is your concern about Jacqueline or Chris or Joey knowing better as well. All of them are grown ups just like Johnny. All of them are parents just like Johnny. And they all have motives and reasons why they do what they do. Why so much focus on the Greek’s past behavior and absolutely NONE on those three’s PRESENT behavior? You don’t need to answer that – it is a rhetorical question and I already know the answer.

    • Meri
      April 13, 2013 at 8:47 PM

      Well said Jeannie. I agree 100%; no matter what anyone said, didn’t say, did or didn’t do, what they do for a living (really? that one kills me…like anyone with any sort of intelligence is going to judge another human being on what they do to support their family) …it is not only unlawful to hit someone, it is just a plain and simple a horrible thing to do and not what grown ups that have any kind of moral compass do to settle a dispute. Bravo, Joe, Chris, and Jaq were wrong and they will pay under the legal system, which is very different than the lala land of reality tv. (Well, I hope Bravo is held accountable, but the others will for sure if the footage of Bravo film is anything like the witnesses say it is) Saying JTG was in any way accountable for the beating he received is similar to the morons that claim a woman that was raped was asking for it. Sickening! PS So all of us who have stated our opinions about Meho and gang should get beat down like dogs if we happen to run into these idiots on the street.

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

      Well said. Would all be happier and feel better if JTG was home on his couch pissing and moaning and counting his Bravo chickens/ dollars before they hatch? I am not on anyone’s side but to blame Johnny the Greek is wrong. Funny how MeGo and the hags have defamed Teresa for two years before wangling a Bravo contract. Since then they have maligned and defamed Teresa, her children, her husband Juicy and failed to defend Joes elderly parents. But Johnny knows how Joe isso he should have kept his mouth shut? So we should all not comment about MeGo and should be intimidated and silent in case Joey goes on a homicidal rampage? Uhm yeah that makes sense. Isn’t it amazing that everyone can say the filthiest things about Teresa and yet when the tables are turned and the Gorgas dirty secrets are exposed it’s a well deserved punch up for JTG. And oh my seems to me the Greeks took a page out of the Gorga playbook. Why would Joey Gorga make peace and then go back on his word? IMO the pressure was on for the Lauritas and Gorgas after all the past 2 seasons backlash . So clearly if that meant violence then they were willing to go after JTG. Jax probably thought I’m her incredible lack of wisdom and common sense that her designer stiletto would eclipse Teresa’s table flip . That’s exactly the rationale that will earn her a new blot on her record and an orange jumpsuit. I’m so tired if he asked for it…..please….even children know better than to whip out that excuse.

      • hwcrazygal
        April 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

        Very well said, couldn’t agree more!!

    • April 13, 2013 at 9:42 PM

      Ah, I can’t readwith this background on my iPad. grrr.

      • April 13, 2013 at 9:43 PM

        Ok , that’s weird! I posted and it went away!

    • Jersey_Girl
      April 13, 2013 at 11:00 PM

      Great post. You’re absolutely correct & your posts never go unnoticed. We all appreciate a levelheaded & truthful comment. Jersey’s comments have an evil agenda that are clearly fueled by envious family members feeding her info & if it doesn’t stop, I’ll start. And I’ll start with Anastasia & end with embarrassing them all.

      • Jersey
        April 14, 2013 at 12:04 AM

        Here we go again, everything is a conspiracy with you. I am not the only one posting negative things about your friends but you continue to signal me out with your nasty comments.

        • Jersey_Girl
          April 14, 2013 at 1:23 AM

          Obviously I’m not the only one who singled you out. Your comments are clearly geared by envy & feed maliciously by family members. So you/they have a choice, end it or I begin. I’ll know your/their answer by your comments.

          • Jersey
            April 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM

            Oh please you are so delusional. I am not Greek and I don’t talk to Johnny’s family. What problems does he have with his family and why are they envious? What major accomplish has he made by going on twitter and bashing a lunatic”s wife that would warrant any family member to be envious? All I could see is a black eye, a bruised forehead and charges of assault. Who in their right mind would be jealous of that?

            You want to be a good friend, stop attacking and threating people who don’t agree with you and advise Penny and Johnny to walk away from Bravo and the housewives. Look at what I posted below what a good friend should do.

            • Jersey
              April 14, 2013 at 10:25 AM

              Hey Jersey Girl you have the nerve to say I have evil intentions , but what was your friends intentions for bashing Mel all over twitter? They were the same intentions that The Gorga”s had when they decided to bash their sister. That is what I call evil.

              I don’t know if you are married but if you are, how would your hudband like it if another man was bashing you on twitter. Johnny provoked a crazy lunatic who does not know how to fight with words. We have all seen Joe’s violent behavior so why set him off and put yourself in a dangerous position?

              • jus me for now
                April 14, 2013 at 10:54 AM

                jersey i think bravo did this n of course jogo goes jogo and whackgo goes whackO,that man jon could have been mamed or killed,there has to been validation for the wrong they did,and bravo too.

      • April 14, 2013 at 12:33 AM

        Oh man. “Evil agenda” how about debate. We all view situations differently – I’ve spoken about my doubt when it comes to the Greeks. Maybe you to need to meet up over a nice glass of Fabellini seeing as though you seem to know one another… I don’t even want to know who Anastasia is – I’m sure she’s lovely.

        • Jersey_Girl
          April 14, 2013 at 1:25 AM

          Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not when it’s deliberately fed by family & use another for a mouthpiece.

          • April 14, 2013 at 1:37 AM

            So you guys are related?

            • Jersey
              April 14, 2013 at 7:23 PM

              No we are not related see my post below Sackem. I am Italian not Greek.

  12. haydaki
    April 13, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    I’m just waiting for the season to air and how all this plays out in court! I think its getting way too dark and when its all said and done no one will really know the truth, except for maybe those who were there. However, even then truth can be subjective to how it is perceived. But, if the tapes are not altered, they will tell no lies. Assaulting people is going to far and as a matter of fact, is illegal! So, I refuse to get into any battles with anyone on blogs, over he say/ she say. We are all just forming are own opinions, even if they may not be what others feel to be right.

    The only reason I started coming on blogs was to maybe get some resemblance of truth for me, after watching Teresa get torn to bits after two seasons of RHONJ( by those she has called long time friends and family), and she is still in the middle of the he say/she say. (so who knows)

    At the end of the day there was a brawl and now there are charges( on both sides), that is the only thing I know to be fact for now!

    Love you Fame and all!

    • AnnieC
      April 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM

      Haydaki – welcome to Wonderland – no one really knows what’s real – all I think I know is ‘real Bravo’ programming is as far from real – and the more I pay attention the more The World Turns- by The Edge Night – and I guess I’m in Another World.

      • haydaki
        April 13, 2013 at 9:35 PM

        You and me both, AnnieC!

    • Jeannie5233
      April 13, 2013 at 9:40 PM

      haydaki – Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and everyone is entitled to voice them and discuss different viewpoints. We all learn from one and other and give each other different perspectives which is what makes discussion – and debate – so interesting.

      I do my utmost best to be respectful – some times better than others. However, if a comment is made specifically to me and my name is called out in a comment and I am confronted because of what my opinion was, then rest assured I will respond accordingly. I do not consider this battling – it is a debate. At the end of the day, I know where people stand and they know where I stand. Nothing more to read into that and nothing less.

    • holy cannoli
      April 14, 2013 at 7:35 AM

      @ haydaki

      Totally agree!

  13. Meri
    April 13, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Jersey did not say he deserved it, she said he should have known better; which is different..so I apologize for going overboard above.

    Now Jaq on the other hand seems to be claiming JTG said things about her son (do not believe it), wore fighting clothes (what exactly do they look like….was he wearing shiny red boxing shorts or a white karate uniform?), and had a crazed look in his eyes like he was on drugs (could it have been the WTF look of a man who just walked into an ambush?)…but even if all of the above were true…that does not warrant getting beat up.

    As far as the Greeks go, I do not see enough evidence to dislike them. I have followed JTG for a while on twitter and he is kind of corny with the Freaky Fridays, Sexy Saturdays, etc. but that does not him a bad person. He has been in twitter wars with Queenz…but that’s easy to get wrapped up in if you are not careful. He became twitter friends with Bulldog, probably to keep RHONJ relevant, but has always had his back and jokes back and forth with him so no biggie. He was called out by Pete Guidice that they are not friends and he is not friends with Teresa or Joe. Okay? So the guy wants to be involved in the RHONJ franchise and inserts himself where he can. Still not a bad person to me. He has claimed to have all this dirt on Messy pants and has not delivered. That is rather annoying…not sure if he is full of sh** or just waiting for that magic moment where the stars align and he becomes an overnight sensation on national tv for taking down Melissa Gorga. I don’t like that he is trying to be relevant by exposing someone as a cheater, even if it is Meho. I still don’t really dislike the guy, though. He hasn’t really said anything or done anything as of yet.
    I know little to nothing about Penny because she stays out of the twitter banter. I only know what has been reported. It has been claimed that Penny blamed Teresa for the info she had about Messy’s ex. Well, we all know how these people lie and how Bravo edits and tells their “employers what to say. So even when it finally all plays out, we still won’t know the truth about Penny, because Bravo can slant it this way or that or someone can claim Penny said this or that or she can actually say “It was Teresa” and maybe it was her words clipped from different conversations. So all we can do is watch Penny, if she makes the cut after this debacle, and go with our gut.
    I just have this horrible picture in my mind of Johnny walking into the big event, happy as a clam because Joe Gorga visited him just the other day and made nice…and he is finally going to have that moment..he is going to be on reality tv and life is sooooooo great!! And then BAM! He is humiliated, attacked, shocked, and beat up in front of hundreds of people. Whatever we may think we know about JTG, he did not deserve that.

    • Jersey
      April 13, 2013 at 11:53 PM

      Thanks for pointing out that the phrase “he should have known better” does not mean he deserved to get hit. My reference for pointing out that he is back behind behind the counter working was just trying to prove that he is not seriously injured and is able to work. Yes he could have been but thank God he wasn’t. The only reason I mentioned that they don’t own a restaurant or a salon is because they said they did. The Greeks felt the need to gain their 15 minutes of fame by exposing Mel as liar when they clearly misrepresent themselves. GET IT NOW. I am trying to prove that a liar is trying to expose a liar and not taking digs at what they do for a living. I could give a rats ass what they own or don’t own that was not the point I was trying to prove.

      My parents are Italian immigrants and started out with nothing and worked hard to build a business. So I came from a blue collar family and are very proud of what they accomplished. The Italians and the Greeks think alike. Johnny’s father and his uncles built a very successful business that their children should be proud of. Hell, I wish I owned a business like Rutts. He should be focusing on filling his father’s shoes rather than rant on twitter about a wife of a violent lunatic. What did he accomplish? The answer is nothing. Bravo played him for a fool. I feel bad for him and his family for his bad decision.

      We all don’t know each other very well to be taking digs on how we are wired.

      • April 14, 2013 at 12:00 AM

        The thing with text is that intent doesn’t always translate. I enjoy reading the debate!

        • Jersey
          April 14, 2013 at 12:16 AM

          You are right Sackem. It funny that I am getting accused of having evil intentions when Jersey girl’s buddies became famous by exposing dirt on people. Weren’t their intentions evil? Weren’t the Gorga’s intentions evil?

          • April 14, 2013 at 12:28 AM

            I think the whole Greek issue is too convoluted because I can see both sides. I guess at the end of the day, I would like to see Teresa vindicated, that would be my happy ending.

      • Jeannie5233
        April 14, 2013 at 6:21 AM

        I apologize if you take that being wired differently as a dig Jersey. I was stating a fact. You and I approach this from completely different perspectives. It was not meant to be a dig.

        • Jersey
          April 14, 2013 at 8:12 AM

          It’s ok . I am a first generation American and so is Johnny. The old time Italians and the Greeks think alike and trust me I know his father is not happy when he decided to go after this lunatic’s wife. His father, my father and Joe Gorga’s father came to this country to build a better life for their families. I am sure all our father’s are the same age, they are old tired and their health is failing. These men need to sit back and relax and enjoy their grandchildren and to see that their own children provide for their family the same way they did their family.

          Johnny is very fortunate because his father built a very successful business. He should forget about Bravo or any other get rich quick scheme and focus on helping his father’s partners with the business. In NJ there is a shortage of special Ed teachers because 1 out of 4 kids in this state is born with a form of autism. These teachers make more than regular teachers and after 25 years they can retire with half their salary. If I was a Penny, I would look for a job in teaching rather than a RHONJ. If I was a good friend of the Greeks, this is how I would advise them.

      • holy cannoli
        April 14, 2013 at 7:38 AM


        I agree with you. I like your posts!

    • Cee_See
      April 15, 2013 at 4:29 AM

      Meri, I do feel pity for JTG for the exact reason you pointed out. That he walked into Posche II, ‘happy as a clam’ and left humilated, bloody, and beaten. I know some people won’t understand how I can have pity for JTG, but I would fell sorry for anyone who gets beaten the way JTG was, (besides a person who is a child molester, or a child abuser). That is just the way I am! I’ve been bullied and ganged up on in my childhood! So, whenever I see someone treated so disgustingly makes me lose all respect for the perpetrators, and have pity for the victim. Bravo seems to like to create this type of scenerio. So, I probably won’t watch season 5, but I’ll read ‘Fame Whorgas’ after each show! Fame, thank-you for this site! I love it!

      • elemcee
        April 15, 2013 at 2:36 PM

        Cee See, I find it disturbing that there are people who think this attack was okay. We have all been insulted, I am sure, and have heard people insult our children. There is no excuse for this depravity. If JoGo is going to attack people who say mean things about his wife, he is going to have a long and tiring life ahead.

  14. Sydney
    April 13, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Fame stoopied housewives got inside scoop on the brawl Melissa is not innocent.

    • April 13, 2013 at 11:57 PM

      I looked and didn’t see anything that I would consider a scoop. What article on SH are you referring to?

      • April 14, 2013 at 12:01 AM

        Yeah, me to…

  15. April 13, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    I kind of see JTG as a polarising character. On one hand, we want him to expose Missy for who she is but on the other hand we can feel little sympathy because he’s doing , as far as we can see, the exact same as Missy did to get on the show – the thing we love to hate about her.

    I just don’t think he deserved to be clobbered. We now have 3 factions at play. I’m holding off on making a decision till I see them BUT I just don’t get their motivation…

    • Oh no that bitch didn't!
      April 13, 2013 at 11:18 PM

      Tamara Tattles explained it good.

      “The article also says that Jac testified that JtG “came dressed in clothes like he was ready for a fight.” Well there is some damning evidence. HE WAS DRESSED IN CLOTHES! Give these people their warrant judge. He.was.dressed.in.clothes. But wait, Jac has more to say.

      The article continues… “Moments before the altercation, Laurita said she was part of a “tsunami of people” packed into the boutique for the grand opening. That’s when she claims Karagiorgis “lunged towards me, and I heard him yelling, ‘I’ll [expletive] kill you.” She said Karagiorgis “had a crazy look in his eyes, like he was on drugs or something,” and, in lunging at her, may have “bumped” her, causing her to fall to the ground. But she acknowledged before Pfund that, amid all of the confusion, security guards who stepped in to usher Karagiorgis from the event could very well have knocked her over. “I can’t be 100 percent sure he caused me to fall.” OBJECTION! FAIRYTALE!

      Are we sure that this is an actual account of what was said in the courtroom? I’m not talking about the logistical problems, I’ll get to that in a minute. I do not believe for a minute Jac knows the word ‘tsunami’. Salami? Yes. But not tsunami. So to me now this whole article is suspect.

      So, logistically, it is very crowded but in the midst of a packed room of people JtG lunges at her and yells, “I’ll fucking kill you!” with a crazy look in his eyes like he was on drugs or something. So a very large crazy man, who has someone with him with a gun, threatens your life in a very crowded room while CAMERAS ARE ROLLING and Bravo security comes to escort him out. And you fall down and then jump up and hit him in the head with a stiletto?

      Jac goes on saying JtG returned, “looking for more.” Looking for more WHAT? You just said he was thrown out with no mention of him doing anything but lunging at you with crazy eyes and maybe, possibly, you are not sure bumping into you. What was he back for, the grind part? There ain’t nothing wrong with a little bump and grind, Jac. “He went right at me, and had this look on his face that was dazed and crazed,” Laurita alleged, adding she believes Karagiorgis was intent on harming her.

      So this guy who is way bigger than you has now “gone at you” twice in the presence of your husband and a room full of your Guido friends and no one is doing anything, right? And so far JtG the drug addled goon has not managed to lay a finger on you? So you were assaulted how? The “maybe bump?” and let me guess, now you are in fear for your life. AMIRITE? Oh! Of course You are! She also whined TO THE JUDGE IN A COURT OF LAW that she does not like what JtG tweets about her. Cry me a Passaic.

      Here is what the manly men said according to the NorthJersey.com article, “Laurita’s husband, Chris, and Gorga, also testified, both claiming that Karagiorgis had lunged at them and threatened their lives. They told Pfund they were forced to defend themselves and their wives during the fracas, and both claim Karagiorgis has been using Twitter to harass and slander them. “He’s obsessed with us, and he’s stalked us for years,” Gorga said. “I get phone calls at night. It’s to the point where my wife has gotten depressed over it. This guy needs to be prosecuted. This is cyber bullying.”

      Again, a lunge and a threat. At least they admit that the lunge is their justification for giving JtG the beatdown. You know the beatdown that occurred where JAC TOOK A STILETTO TO THE GUY’S FACE. Did I mention that part?

      Then, the author of the article, Chris Harris ends the story with one of the best, funniest sentences ever constructed. Are you ready? Here it is. “Christopher Laurita, dressed in a pinstripe jacket and jeans, told the judge he feels Karagiorgis is hungry for publicity.” ~Chris Harris

      Last week, Karagiorgis’ claimed he was held back by security which allowed those rascally New Jersey house husbands to give him a broken nose and other injuries. Johnny the Greek further claims Jacqueline smacked him in the head with a stiletto heel, (In case I left that part out somehow) and that her husband threatened his life. So now, Karagiorgis, Manzo, Laurita, and Joe Gorga, all have charges of assault and terroristic threats. So, um, it’s win-win right?

      I think the next court date is April 18th or maybe that is just my next batch. I don’t remember. © “Stiletto Gate” is the unofficial copyright of @realityjulie”

      • Oh no that bitch didn't!
        April 13, 2013 at 11:21 PM

        This is the first part.

        ” According to a recent article on NorthJersey.com , “Jacqueline Laurita testified that Karagiorgis was “asked not to attend” the March 30 event in Ridgewood, ‘but showed up anyway with a bodyguard,’ who she said appeared to be armed.” Wait what? You are testifying under oath that you and a couple of other guys jumped a guy with an armed bodyguard and clobbered him with a stiletto? Oh lord. These housewives tell such ridiculous lies in court. It’s astounding really. My guess is that this person who was “asked not to attend” was fully wired for sound by production, right Jac?

        • April 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM

          Oh yes, I have my opinion on this situation – it’s over a few pages so I try not to repeat myself – I think Jac’s telling tales for sure. I was commenting more on the thread above re JTG character. Nothing in her statement makes sense to me – nothing.

          • April 14, 2013 at 12:15 AM

            None of it makes sense. I just wonder why we don’t get to hear a reporter’s view of what the boys said vs. yeah he lunged at us too and said he was going to kill us which is lame.

            • April 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM

              Exactly! I don’t see how this has gone from Joey “standing up” for his “woman” to being all about Jac. I for one would like to hear what Little Joey Gorga has to say for himself.

              • April 14, 2013 at 12:25 AM

                PS, wonder if Jac’s excited by the google hits? She’s a numbers gal.

              • April 14, 2013 at 12:29 AM

                My gut tells me that once again this was producer induced and it went way to far. I hope JTG sues the crap out of them. I don’t care if he and Penny and been clawing to get show for over 2 years. No one deserved what he got.

                • April 14, 2013 at 12:35 AM

                  I hear you Jules.

      • April 14, 2013 at 12:24 AM

        Actually I think Fame has explained it much better including giving the history.

  16. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 13, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    Mario is the guy that Jacqueline said went to the party as Johhny security.

    • April 13, 2013 at 11:21 PM

      Hey Oh no that bitch didn’t!, I know that Jac said that, but my source, whom I believe, says that is not true.

      • Oh no that bitch didn't!
        April 13, 2013 at 11:37 PM

        Of course they will say that Fame. They only care about protecting them and getting on that show just like Melissa did. Johnny tweeted that Faux was a friend. I will find a screen shot before he deletes.

        • April 13, 2013 at 11:41 PM

          I know that they are twitter friends, and it could be more that… I don’t know.

          • Oh no that bitch didn't!
            April 14, 2013 at 9:54 AM

            I can’t find the comment about your source.
            I see what you meant, that Mario isn’t his bodyguard. What I was saying was Jack A Loon said in court that JTG came with a bodyguard. I think JTG once made a reference that he was and Jack A Loon ASSUMED it was.

            For everyone else. last time I checked this was Fame’s blog, I was having a conversation with her. I am not out for Faux, I am merely stating what I observe.

            No, JTG did not deserve to be attacked like he WAS. No one does, violence is never ok. I hope Cracker Jac is charged with contempt for lying.

            • April 14, 2013 at 11:05 AM

              Ok, I won’t “talk” with you.

        • RedVelvetCake
          April 14, 2013 at 12:53 AM

          so what they are friends,why you tripping queenz of media

  17. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 13, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    No, read this from Queenz [the rest of this comment was edited out at 12:10 PM EST on 4/14/2013 by Fame since it references another blogger who FW has no issues with].

    • Oh no that bitch didn't!
      April 13, 2013 at 11:52 PM

      Here is the link. [link removed by Fame at 12:10 PM on 4/14/2013]

    • Oh no that bitch didn't!
      April 13, 2013 at 11:54 PM

      You know what caused the problem with Stark and Faux? stark questioned the timing of Bryan opening a twitter account in 2011

      Also think about this with an open mind:
      Q. how would Teresa know who Bryan was?

      • April 14, 2013 at 12:20 AM

        Can’t we please leave twitter wars to twitter? It appears you are out for blood on Faux and I don’t think this the forum for that.

        • Jeannie5233
          April 14, 2013 at 7:06 AM

          Yes, mzjules – this is not the place to be if you have a problem with Faux. Take it up elsewhere – not here.

          • Aint Pittypat
            April 14, 2013 at 10:12 AM

            I’m a newbie but am affronted when told how to feel about another blogger . I am capable of reading and making up my own mind. I cannot help but question the intent behind what seems to be a campaign against faux. Is this really necessary?

      • RedVelvetCake
        April 14, 2013 at 12:54 AM

        go take that drama to another blog, queenz of media

    • April 14, 2013 at 12:06 AM

      Honest question meant in a non combative way – what are you trying to tell us in regard to Teresa?

      I for one cannot stand QoM and try to avoid the whole twitter war because it was too ugly and too volatile. I enjoy reading here so it’s not something I wanted to see my fav blog/blogger dragged into.

    • AutumnL
      April 14, 2013 at 12:44 AM

      So you think Faux flies in several times a week from California to attend events in New Jersey and New York (opening day at the stadium and Brownstone events, for example).

      Faux takes a few pictures of New Jersey signs, knows all the local restaurants and bars, can name local businesses and landmarks, tweets and picts them, then flies back to California.

      Doesn’t follow the OC girls who live close to her, but chooses instead to follow NJ, who are across the country.


      • April 15, 2013 at 12:05 AM

        With all due respect, what do we care what Faux does or does not do, or if it is logical. What does that have to do with the price of eggs?

    • I live on the neighborhood
      April 14, 2013 at 10:01 AM


      Twitter has gotten so dark and ugly. I do not agree with blogger’s posting any personal info. There are are too many crazies in this world. At the end of the day this is a reality show ( not really). The Greeks were used by Bravo, Jac attacked to keep her job. No one should be hurt I hope Johnny sues the hell out of Bravo.
      I am stating my peace now

      Chris Stark should have never posted Johnny’s phone number
      Chris Stark should not have posted a picture of of who she thinks Faux is.
      Faux should delete comments on her blog that refer to people’s names and location.
      To leave a comment like that is dangerous and asking for trouble.
      I saying this here because fame is one of four blogger’s I think have integrity .

      TV peronalities are fair game. They are paid we are not. Everyone leave everybody else out of it.

    • elemcee
      April 14, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      How does anyone have time to keep all this twitter b.s. straight? I am so glad I have shunned twitter. This is making my head hurt. I am glad I was sick and not really touching my computer through all of this.

  18. AutumnL
    April 14, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Ironically I learn more about what goes on at Twitter here on Famewhorgas, than I learn on Twitter. I even follow a few of the ppl mentioned, and never get this much info about them other than here…….AND from people who don’t even belong to Twitter!! I just can’t help but laugh a little about that, b/c I am generally out of the loop.

    I’ve had JtG on my TL since August, and I’ve never once seen him write anything negative about the Lauritas kids, or even the Lauritas. I’ve seen him put some pissy things up & later delete them, but we all do that. I’ve seen him and his wife be targeted over and over, by the same people who CERTAINLY have reputations for being malicious. I’ve read things about how his wife would “NEVER BE ON RHONJ”…and yet here she is, filming this season. I’ve read MANY things that were clearly written in malice, and I’m having trouble remembering anything that turned out to be accurate.

    The Greeks have been smeared for a long time by ppl claiming they are “publicity hungry” etc—so? So what? Who has been on RH that IS NOT PUBLICITY HUNGRY? The manly Marco sisters are desperate for publicity. The ppl who own the shops that host these stupid staged events, are desperate.

    The twats that hang on to the hangers-on, think it will rub off on them. The bloggers who ingratiate themselves by attending the staged events, taking pics showing how “close” they are, are DESPERATE for publicity. Everyone associated with these stupid shows are seeking some kind of fame, fortune, publicity, money, attention.

    So I’m not sure I get why the Greeks are singled out and maligned as if they are the most despicable ppl ever.

    Whatever. I pray the law will sort it out and not simply dismiss it or allow Bravo to pay ppl off to make it go away-and I hope it ALL comes out, and exposes the liars and frauds for who they are.

    Saying ppl are crazed, and “appeared on drugs”, is predictable, convenient. (+hilarious!). We all know who seems to be crazed and on drugs/drunk most of the time on and off Twitter..!

    • April 14, 2013 at 12:45 AM

      Hey Autumn – great post! I think the drug reference is a Gorga thing- remember how he accused Kim D. The irony of Jac’s declaration certainly isn’t lost on me!

      • Dubbalicious
        April 14, 2013 at 10:26 AM

        Let’s not forget they accused Angelo of being a drug addict also.

        • April 14, 2013 at 12:02 PM


    • Aint Pittypat
      April 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM

      Autumn , enjoyed your post and happen to agree.

  19. Lachicadeoro
    April 14, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Jac is innocent until proven guilty! Stop slanting the truth to make jac look bad! In the words of Whitney Houston, “show me the reciepts! Jac I admire you for you perseverance and tenacity. All the best.

    • April 14, 2013 at 1:50 AM

      What is Jac persevering with? In the context of this article, she’s persevered for a whole 15 days. Phew, exhausting. I find the word “tenacious” tedious when applied to a person who only wants to bring another down.

      So really you’re saying Jac is doing a good job at trying to convince us she’s right? Ok, ok don’t bash us around the head with it…. too soon?

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 14, 2013 at 10:24 AM

        I am very curious how.Jax is going to spin this to the autism.community. How on earth will.she explain away her twitter comments about tracking IP addresses and then accuse Johnny of stalking them. Wow his wow! How does she have time to engage in this? Is this what is meant by the preserving comment? Hmmm.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 14, 2013 at 7:01 AM

      goldie – ask Dr. Chadmichael how those clinical trials are going for him. . . any new results??

      • elemcee
        April 14, 2013 at 11:14 AM


        I did some research. Cannot find a Dr. Chad Michael anywhere. Could be using first and middle name. But why would the esteemed “doctor” not use his or her real name?… Could be a Ph.D. possibly, but then why would we care about their “medical” research.

        • Jeannie5233
          April 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM


    • April 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM

      You may change your name, but we still know who you are.

  20. AutumnL
    April 14, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Hello ladies! Thanks, and same here. I try to read faithfully even if I don’t always comment–usually bc it’s already been said better than anything I could say.

    I forgot about JoGorga insulting KimD for being on drugs. Exactly right!

    We see them 24/7 misbehaving on Twitter, insulting fans, & saying really dumb things, going to public events & fighting, treating each other like filth–and yet, it’s never them. It’s everyone else who are plotting & scheming against them, who are disruptive and rude.

    Enough already!

    It’s still only a handful of ppl who buy into the “alleged” stories always circulating about JtG and PtG–and the stories are always from a few of same sources who have a ve$ted interest in circulating the stories.

    If J & P are so irrelevant—why are ppl spending so much time trying to discredit them?

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 14, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      Thanks Autumn. Agree!

    • Anonymous
      April 14, 2013 at 5:01 PM

      Completely agree ! I really like your perspective AutumnL.

      Lily M

  21. love4peace
    April 14, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Bottom line a crime has been committed. A guy walked in a room and was attacked, jax said so her self. They all have, in a round about way ( while trying to blame the victim ). I couldn’t care less if he wanted 15 minutes of fame, or how he pays his bills. This is a crime that should be easy to prosecute it’s on tape. So saying he is a bad guy, or even worse blaming Teresa is so beyond my reality. i love this blog, but for the life of me i can’t figure out why this is a topic. ( good guy- bad guy) who cares. They committed a crime, with a weapon. Sorry if i’m coming off hateful, i’m not trying to be. I feel people are trying to divide and conquer. Confuse people with twitter and other random stuff.

    • April 14, 2013 at 9:02 AM

      Not hateful at all! Very insightful actually when you read through the range off comments.

      • love4peace
        April 14, 2013 at 9:17 AM

        i read all the comments and i was shocked, on our precious blog they are trying to confuse the point, go after Fame and manipulate the facts. We are a great group and i’m sure we can see the man behind the curtain.

        • April 14, 2013 at 9:28 AM


        • holy cannoli
          April 14, 2013 at 10:05 AM

          I’m sorry. I don’t see that at all.

          I see a person posting their thoughts and having a discussion with @Fame. I’m sure if @Fame felt in anyway that this person was out of line she would tell them.

          • April 14, 2013 at 12:31 PM

            As comments are posted, I read them from a queue that only the blog owner can see, and some of them get past me, which happened last night. I also logged off and didn’t see what happened later on until just now. So I did my best to edit out negative references to other bloggers (which means the replies to those comments will be deleted too or else they’d be left dangling and wouldn’t make sense).

            • holy cannoli
              April 14, 2013 at 1:02 PM


              Your blog , you do what you want.

              For me I didn’t see any problem, but I don’t look for headaches when they are not there. In my opinion the whole thing was made out to be bigger than what it really was, and I saw all of the posts before you deleted .

              Oh, didn’t know that you do not like smack talk about other bloggers. She should have found out from you, and only you.

              • holy cannoli
                April 14, 2013 at 1:12 PM

                Also in my opinion she did not need to be called Queenz, and made fun of.

          • Oh no that bitch didn't!
            April 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

            Me QoM? All because of my observations? Not hardly. I do not know much about her, I just was pointing out the Tweet that fame deleted which is her right. Another example because people don’t see eye to eye I have to be QoM? What a mean thing to say.

    • holy cannoli
      April 14, 2013 at 9:15 AM

      I don’t think you came off hateful at all.

      I do like though when people post what they know from twitter, ie screen shots, relationships with these castmembers/ history, whatever. It all goes together if you think about it. It gives me a better insight alot of times. It really isn’t going off topic, in my opinion.

      • love4peace
        April 14, 2013 at 9:19 AM

        We do get some insight in to the minds of these people, but they are using them to blame the victim. That is misleading and wrong

        • holy cannoli
          April 14, 2013 at 9:48 AM

          That is your opinion.

          I do not see it that way at all. I still stand by my original thoughts on all of this.

          I do not like JTG , I think there is something wrong with him.

          But this guy did not deserve to have this happen to him. I stand by that.

          As far as the Faux/ Queenz thing goes, I think they are both goofs, one being no better than the other.

          Faux sources= JTG,Penny

          Queenz sources= Marco sisters

          • I live on the neighborhood
            April 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM

            Dead straight Holly. Our source Fame😊👍

            • holy cannoli
              April 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM

              Hi I live in the neighborhood!

              I don’t know who Fames ” sources ” are. Do I think they are right/ agree with them? No, not all the time. I do like reading Fames actual take on things, that’s why I post on this blog. Do I always agree with her ? No. But then again she doesn’t always agree with me. It is what it is.

              • I live in the neighborhood
                April 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM

                Holly, I have loved your comments here and on Rox’s site, you are always open minded and fair. I was joking about Fame sources. I just think fame has integrity unlike other’s. have a great weekend😃

                • holy cannoli
                  April 14, 2013 at 10:41 AM

                  Aww thank you @ I live..

                  Right back atcha 😉

          • haydaki
            April 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM

            Lol! Holy people are going to start thinking I’m you! Just kidding! No really that’s all I was trying to get across, couldn’t have said it better. Simple and too the point!

            • holy cannoli
              April 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM

              @ haydaki

              Lol, we do have the same thoughts at times..

  22. love4peace
    April 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    If my son came home and told me that him and a couple buddies attacked another human being with a weapon because they were saying stuff i would be so mad. First violence over reason is unacceptable, second they used a weapon that is a felony. Third in my state it’s also gang violence. These are all serious crimes. All because of rumors and nonsense. I would get a good lawyer and try to save his butt not blame it on the victim

  23. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 14, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    excuse me! I am not out for Faux. I was having a conversation with Fame about my observations. If fame doesn’t want me talking about it I won’t. [Edited outed by Fame at 12:14 PM on 4/14/2013]
    I make no apologies for my conversation with Fame and will not be schooled of told or what to talk about unless it is by Fame.

    • holy cannoli
      April 14, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      @ Oh……

      I get exactly what you are saying, and completely agree.

      I also agree that if Fame has an issue she will address you.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM

      With all due respect, while what most of what you say is reasonable, you would also be reasonable to the fact that this is a public forum and as such, people will post things about your opinions, comments, observations, etc. Of course you know that you won’t like what every one has to say – as I and all of us, regardless of what position we take, have experienced and fully accept because we are all individuals. There may be disagreements but here, at FW, people pretty much can state whatever as long as it is done respectfully.

      Fame is not online 24/7 – her time is constrained and is unable to address every issue that comes up on these articles.

      In previous articles in the past, Fame has made it very clear she does not like talking about other bloggers no matter who they are, especially in a disrespectful manner and has asked, several times, for it not to continue. Respectfully to you, you are new here so would not be aware of that. Most of us here, especially the ones who have been with Fame for a long time, however are very well aware of Fame’s wishes, so therefore, do our best to respect Fame’s wishes. Just letting you know.

      • April 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM

        Took the words right out of my mouth!

  24. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 14, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    I co sign that Holy Cannoli. We are adults and have our opinions. We should be able to state them with out being schooled on what is to be talked about unless directed by the owner of this blog.

    [Edited out by Fame at 12:15 PM on 4/14/2013]

    I am waiting for the day for Andy Cohen to come out and tell us all we have been punk’d it was all for T.V.

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 14, 2013 at 10:49 AM

      IMO. It’s occasionally difficult to discern intentions when people post. Myself included. I will admit I read both blogs and find the majority of posters to be intelligent and very well informed. After years of Bravo manipulation most of us probably read blogs and interpret everything with a grain of salt . We are no longer wide eyed innocents. I’m just curious as to why it is necessary to school fame on faux? I am not trying to be snarky. The Bergen County record reflects much of what bloggers are giving us in terms of information and I do believe most of us have a wait and see attitude about how this will all fall out while decrying the violence.

      • elemcee
        April 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM

        Okay, I have read the thread from the top, and I do not understand why anyone is talking about Faux? What does that have to do with the fact that there was no excuse for what happened March 30th? I have never thought Faux was Fame’s source and frankly do not care if she is. .

    • April 14, 2013 at 10:57 AM

      … so in a way, you’re saying that no one can disagree with you. No one was being schooled by what I read – two opposing opinions. You can’t please all the people all the time.

      • holy cannoli
        April 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM

        I didn’t get that from her post at all @Sackem.

        I’m sorry I think she was being ” schooled’ on what she should and shouldn’t post..She was even acussed of being Queenz.

        I saw a person posting their thoughts and having a discussion with Fame, I’m sorry I didn’t see anything wrong with what she posted.

        • elemcee
          April 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM

          Holy, I think the issue is that she will not stop. And when the conversation moves along she tries to pull it back to Faux. Which frankly is kind of creepy at this point.

          • holy cannoli
            April 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM

            Sorry I don’t see that @elemcee. 😦

            Maybe it’s because I agree with her. I know I am in the minority on this site alot. Iam not a Faux Fan, or JTG Fan.

            Still though the man did not deserve to have this happen to him.

            • elemcee
              April 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM

              Holy, I totally know what you are saying. You pretty much always post what I am thinking! I try to see the big picture also. And I am getting really confused by all the twitter stuff and everything. But, I am pretty easily confused!

              • holy cannoli
                April 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM

                No your not@ elemcee You are great!

                I’m really not confused by the twitter stuff because I have always had the same opinion. JTG, is and ASSHAT, but did not deserve to have this happen to him.

                • elemcee
                  April 14, 2013 at 2:24 PM

                  Ah Holy, you are great too! Keep making sure we get back to center. Objectiveness is so important in life. I try to be objective, but sometimes (too often) my emotions get the best of me.

        • April 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM

          Holy, you know I loves ya but to me, someone came on the page with intent. I appreciate we have different view points and that’s the beauty of discussion but I think Elemcee says it best..

          • holy cannoli
            April 14, 2013 at 12:12 PM

            I love ya too @Sackem

          • April 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM

            I been away for a few days and I smell something is not right. Not certain what it is and the comments just keep multiplying.

  25. Meri
    April 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    I don’t think anyone is trying to divide and conquer! They are simply stating their opinions and why. We don’t all have to agree, we just have to respect each others opinions. I guess I take offense since I used the “bad guy” term above and I was not trying to convince anyone of anything. I have read a lot of opinions on here that they do not like the Greeks.That’s fine! I don’t really even know these people. I just wanted to throw it out there that maybe they aren’t all that bad. Yes, they are seeking fame and notoriety. So what? I did state I don’t like the way they are going about it…claiming to have secrets about Messy’s past.

    When you think about it, fame and fortune was always for those that worked hard and sacrificed to become an elite athlete, an accomplished musician, actor or actress. Maybe a politician that made it to the top. But all of a sudden reality tv has changed all that. People are clambering for the limelight without breaking a sweat. Some will even rip apart their own family over the opportunity to get their 15 minutes.

    • Oh no that bitch didn't!
      April 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM

      Meri, I agree.
      As much as I love JTG exposing Melissa, my only difference is it doesn’t look right.
      About the fame and fortune, you are right.
      I keep going back to the episode when Jamie Laurita got married and he was excited for the positive tweets and was retweeting them and Lauren and Albie were all pissy because he retweeted a tweet thanking him for having the courage to call his sister out for the way they treat Teresa. . Albie had the nerve to tweet that fame was a dangerous drug. The reactions he got were priceless. They ranged from: “STFU Albie” “Excuse me? You’re the one who claims now that you’re famous no law schools will take a chance” or “you have nerve”

    • Jersey
      April 14, 2013 at 6:57 PM

      Well said Meri! I especially like the last paragraph of your post. These shows prove that if you want fame and fortune, try the old fashion way and keep your home life personnel. Only a small handful of housewifea have made big money from this show. It is not worth losing your marriage and friends for 15 minutes of fame.

  26. April 14, 2013 at 10:25 AM


    • haydaki
      April 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM

      That simple, huh? Has got me laughing so hard, boy did I need that laugh. I just can’t stop! I have never had one word, kill me with laughter!

      • holy cannoli
        April 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM

        I know @ haydaki.. Me too..LOL!

        @ gessie will do that to me alot with her posts.!

    • April 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      One of the voices of reason. lol

  27. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 14, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Me three. I do not always believe her sources, I look forward more to hearing Fame’s take. I were on T.V. I would want someone like Fame to have my back. Fame is thorough. Some posts might be really long, but she points out what was already talked about just incase a new reader may have not seen it. I personally appreciate that.

    • holy cannoli
      April 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM

      Totally agree @ Oh.

      Fame really does her homework/ research. Totally appreciate and respect that.

      The ” sources” thing..Meh, not so much. I can’t say I respect anyone that has the “cannolis” to spew shit, but not the “cannolis” to but their name to it.

      And before anyone has a baby over what I just said… I post this about ” sources/ insiders” all the time, on every blog I post on.. It’s just MY OPINION.

  28. love4peace
    April 14, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    My comments were not an attack on anybody. I was stating that this is a crime, no matter who said what or who is friends with whom. After reading all the post it comes across that he deserved to be beat up because he’s not a nice guy. I find it terrible that this has become about his character and not about a violent crime. That’s my point.

    • Meri
      April 14, 2013 at 10:50 AM

      gotcha…sorry i took it the wrong way 🙂

    • Oh no that bitch didn't!
      April 14, 2013 at 10:54 AM

      Absolutely not. I am sorry if I came off that way. That is one thing I will apologize for if I did come off that way. No one has a right to put their hands on anyone. As usual, Fame did a great job pointing out how JTG was set up. What really burns my biscuits is the cheap shots that were taken at JTG. If you get a chance please check out TamaraTattles take on Jacqueline’s testimony.
      I do not care if JTG did say it (I never seen the tweet and I think his wife would neuter him as another commenter said on another blog) that is not the way to handle it. If he did say it, then they should of sued him. To know they talked days in advance really makes me angry.

    • holy cannoli
      April 14, 2013 at 10:55 AM

      Well in my opinion you kinda came across like you were ‘ going at some posts” I wouldn’t say attack.

      I didn’t get from reading the posts that people think this man deserved to have this happen to him, not at all!

      • holy cannoli
        April 14, 2013 at 10:56 AM

        opps my post was for @love

      • love4peace
        April 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM

        When i read through all the post, on the last blog also, first Teresa was blamed now jtg is at fault because he’s a bad guy. I don’t think these comments came from the regular posters but they are there. To me this is very serious, a gang related crime with a weapon was committed ( 3 on 1 = gang violence in a legal stand point ). They say he is that he did this he talk to so and so = bad guy. Then they say but it was wrong. To me I only see that it was wrong.

        • holy cannoli
          April 14, 2013 at 11:42 AM

          Well like I said, I do not like JTG, never have. But I do not think that this man deserved this.
          BTW, I do not like Fredo( Joey) or Tricky Dicky (Richie) or Lurker Chris( Chris Laurita) at all never have. But I do not think they would deserve to have this happene to them either.

          You are not going to agree with everyone that posts on this site or any site for that matter.. You have a right to your opinion, as well as others that post.

          • love4peace
            April 14, 2013 at 11:49 AM

            It’s not that, I like reading ever ones point of view. I have read this blog from about day one. I don’t have an opinion on JTG, i only seen what others have posted his tweets and stuff like that. I just feel the line is getting blurry when to me its crystal clear. This is a serious crime and all involved should be held accountable. Oh and you forgot to give jac a witty name. they are funny

            • holy cannoli
              April 14, 2013 at 11:54 AM


              I get it.

              Melissa=Messy Marco

              Jacqueline Laurita= Cracker Jac

              Caroline Manzo= MeatballFace Manzo

              Kathy= Katfish.

              • love4peace
                April 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM

                funny lol

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 14, 2013 at 11:06 AM

      Nothing justifies this level of violence. If we fail to speak out then Bravo will up the ante next time around. I hope that the intervention of the legal system and attendant negative publicity will act a clear warning that we are not amused and that everyone will have consequences. It is impossible to condone 3 people attacking one guy. My question for Jax and Joey and Chris is why not leave the premises? If you were genuinely afraid why not call 911?

    • Jeannie5233
      April 14, 2013 at 11:06 AM

      love4peace – It is exactly my point as well. And that fact that he is still able to walk around should not be used to trivialize the violence of it all.

      • Meri
        April 14, 2013 at 11:13 AM

        I think we are all on the same page. Reality tv is out of control in regards to bullying and just plain and simple meanness. Why do people like to watch this? But when reality tv becomes violent to draw in viewers it is so disturbing…and against the law! And they all need to be held accountable including Bravo for their part in it. Period.

        • April 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM

          Really enjoy reading your thoughts to Meri!

          • Meri
            April 14, 2013 at 3:52 PM

            Thanks Sackeem…as I love reading your posts too. And I love hearing about baby Ava and Australia. My daughter will be visiting there for 3 and a half weeks this summer to visit her boyfriend and I’m so jealous..haha. (except for the long plane ride)

            • April 14, 2013 at 8:50 PM

              She’ll love it!

  29. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    This one just made Lysa look like an idiot.

    If you want to get to my little sister, you have to go thru me! If you want to get to me, U have to go thru my big sister @kimpirrella #what— Lysa Simpson (@LysaSimpson) April 7, 2013

    If you want to get to my little sister, you have to go thru me! If you want to get to me, U have to go thru my big sister @kimpirrella #what— Lysa Simpson (@LysaSimpson) April 7, 2013

    • Hunny Badger
      April 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      She sounds like such trash, trying to be a tough “gangsta” bitch. Instead she comes across as a pathetic, nasty, uneducated, vapid, trash-talking scumbaguette.

  30. April 14, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Love – keep posting! I heard you!

    • elemcee
      April 14, 2013 at 11:37 AM

      Me too!

    • Anonymous
      April 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM

      Like my father said, quit beating a dead horse,unless you want his head in your bed!!!

  31. Jeannie5233
    April 14, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    RedVelvetCake – You nailed it!!!!!!!!

    • April 14, 2013 at 11:51 AM

      Thankyou!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy go back and read the thread!
      Love youes all but this Little Duck is bowing out – for now.

      • holy cannoli
        April 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM

        I did @Sackem the whole thing..

    • holy cannoli
      April 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      What, you think Oh, is Queenz? @Jeanne. Thats what red said.

      I’m sorry, I do not agree.

      • haydaki
        April 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM

        I’m out for now, Holy. I know I will probably see you at ……..

  32. April 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Peace ,love, lies, such bs, Andy is the Devil, and I want milk and cookies!! 🙂

    • haydaki
      April 14, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      Just a little giggle to lighten the load, cause we know in the end truth may never be told! Thanks for the giggle anonymous!

  33. Anna
    April 14, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Wel, what you know!!! Check the green dress that Melissa had on. What a copy cat, Teresa was right.

  34. la ragazza d'oro
    April 14, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    so tired of all this balderdash. Jac you need a new agent/manager. I suggest you get a NY or LA manager that will help get you to where you need to be. I can’t even come on here anymore b/c of the vile remarks toward you and the other stars. Teresa you are nothing without the team.

  35. April 14, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    So I hope everyone’s having a great Sunday!

    • April 14, 2013 at 3:29 PM

      Actually I am, my head however is spinning a bit from finishing reading the posts from last night. How are you and our little Ava doing today (is it your Monday yet? I always get confused).

      • holy cannoli
        April 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM

        I read all the posts from last night before Fame deleted some. A couple of mine were deleted cause I called Faux and Queenz goofs, and said one was no better than the other. I stand by that !!
        I still did not see what the big deal was. It’s not as if people do not talk about Faux or Queenz on this site, it happens all the time.
        Fame doesn’t do it herself which is totally cool, and I totally get that, it’s out of respect for her peers.

        • haydaki
          April 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

          It is what it is, I’ll be reading from afar! I’ll see you at that other place. Good day to all!

          • April 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM

            Holy and haydaki, I deleted your comments only because I deleted the comment you replied to since it was a discussion about another blogger, which is something that I’d rather not occur here at FW. Had I left your replies, they wouldn’t have made sense and would have been permanently assigned as the last comments on the blog. I’m wondering if I’m the only blogger who has an issue with this? And are bloggers often being discussed in the comment sections of competing blogs? Just curious…

            • April 14, 2013 at 9:05 PM

              As far as RT, Mary doesn’t allow blogger bashing or twitter wars seeping over to the RT site. I don’t see it on Rox’s site or SH’s, meaning the bashing.

              • holy cannoli
                April 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

                Mary is just a blogger for RT, she doesn’t own the site. Mary might not like it on the threads that she blogs on, but Rt herself has let this go on.. Rt will only step in when she gets complaints/ emails about stuff, then she will tell people to knock it off, and go back to the topic of thread.
                I have seen a few say stuff on Rox’s site, but she has never addressed it( bloggers/ twitter wars)It usually does not last when people have said stuff. It’s not a big deal. Rox very rarely steps in on anything, she like Rt has got to be flooded with emails, etc, before she steps in.

                SH will just not post the comments she doesn’t like, she censors stuff, also she will “poof” anyone that does not agree with her, and she doesn’t like.

            • haydaki
              April 14, 2013 at 11:03 PM

              Fame, I totally respect your decision, it is your blog! I honestly was not aware of the other blogger rule, but I do stand behind what I said about her. I just would like to point out that I had never noticed anyone being called out/deleted for talking negatively about another blogger, it has happened all the time on here. As a matter of fact it has happened quite recently I was just responding to the previous poster and quite frankly felt it was singled out because of who the blogger was that I mentioned.( I guess maybe I chose the wrong one to pick on!) Once again I apologize, to one and all! To those who may appear in the following messages, please do not think I’m personally attacking you. I’m just showing why I didn’t realize the rule.

              • haydaki
                April 14, 2013 at 11:09 PM

                Sackem says:

                April 13, 2013 at 3:20 AM

                Oh and I notice good old Perez has jumped back on the Anti Teresa bandwagon again..


                Anonymous says:

                April 13, 2013 at 4:00 AM

                He’s sooo nasty, he does make “gay look ugly “!!


                gessiewtf says:

                April 13, 2013 at 12:27 PM

                And to think a child has been manufactured for him. I guess his goldendoodle wasn’t enough. My goldendoodle is better than his goldendoodle. I hate that guy. He is such a liar.

              • haydaki
                April 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM

                Jeannie5233 says:

                April 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM

                TBB is not very good at disguising her likes and dislikes 😉


                holy cannoli says:

                April 11, 2013 at 8:28 PM


                She sure isn’t. Ver very unprofessional. Plus that goof is very friendly with Queenz of Media, on twitter, seriously!

                I will never forget her blog about the event that all the crap happened at( a few weeks ago) and how Teresa was not very talkative, approachable, she made reference that maybe she knew what was going to happen, or something along those lines.. That really pissed me off. I’m sorry first of all I don’t think Teresa goes out of her way to talk to TTB(Tara) cause she knows she is such a brown nose, ass kissser, and very unprofessional.


                mzjulesaz says:

                April 11, 2013 at 8:55 PM

                ITA. I try to avoid her blog at all costs as I hate giving her hits as she loves to brag about her hits. She just likes the attention and really doesn’t report anything meaningful other and is quite boring. She has her favorites — those that as you said Holy kiss up. Just don’t like a woman that calls her kids Bitchlets … wrong and bad.

              • haydaki
                April 14, 2013 at 11:14 PM

                I could get more but I will not just pointing out that MANY have brought up other bloggers on this site, and for the record I have really enjoyed the unity here!

                • April 14, 2013 at 11:42 PM

                  You bring out an excellent point Haydaki! Many of us have been remiss and have made (or at least I have) snide comments in passing about other bloggers and I should not have. Last night was just too much for me especially when you include the twitter wars.

                  I truly hope you continue to post here as I enjoy your comments!

                  • Jeannie5233
                    April 15, 2013 at 11:12 AM

                    There is a difference in saying someone doesn’t disguise their likes and dislikes and calling other bloggers a bitch and assh*le or other nasty names that I have seen here in the past. But, that being said, I will say I was also remiss and maybe shouldn’t have made that comment so I apologize. However, I do think something very important is being forgotten here –

                    This is Fame’s blog – and she, and she alone, can decide what to do with it and how to run with it. NONE of us has the right to tell her what is wrong or right and what to do. At the end of the day, this is her work and we shouldn’t question her or or her reasonings behind what she does or does not do. Out of all the blogs out there, this is one of the few where she gives respect to her readers and commenters and is not snarky or downright nasty to the very people who come here. I cannot say the same for some other bloggers. I visited many others and I settled here for that reason.

                    Fame respects us, we respect her, and we respect each other – a very simple culture that is civil.

                    • April 16, 2013 at 10:29 AM

                      Amen to you’re post Jeannie. I have chosen this site over all of the others for the very same reason. R E S P E C T

        • April 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

          Hey Holy – my opinion: the other poster came with an agenda. It seems this little “hobby blog”, as Fame has described it, has been getting many interesting visitors under the guise of regular posters of late. Generally they stand out like dogs balls and that one had every bell ringing.

          I think since the Great Twitter War of 2013 many are mindful, I know I am at least, of putting a blogger down on another site due to ramifications for that site’s blogger it just all got so nasty with a billion double crosses no one was safe! And particularly after the threats made here:
          I’d hate to see my go to get shot down, you’ve all become friends!

          I have to remind myself that, as Fame has stated, this blog is not for profit which has to suggest that our Fame actually has a life outside of this blog so a level of self monitoring is necessary at times cause sometimes it seems the lines get very blurry.

          I hope you and Haydaki keep on posting here, I enjoy reading both of your posts.

          • haydaki
            April 14, 2013 at 10:31 PM

            Thank you, Sackem! and I enjoy your post as well! I love hearing your stories about your family. Please, do not be mad at me for referencing you in my above post, I’m only using it to show why I replied the way I did.(not personal) I feel you are always fair in your assesments of things and polite/kind to fellow posters.

            • Anonymous
              April 15, 2013 at 12:08 AM

              Oooh! I’m nervous and excited to get back to my computer to read y

              • April 15, 2013 at 12:39 AM

                That was me!!! Posting from my iPhone while I was out!!!!

                • haydaki
                  April 15, 2013 at 12:43 AM

                  So, you are “Anonymous”, Sackem. Answering yourself down below?

                  • April 15, 2013 at 2:16 AM

                    No I have no idea where that one came from….. If I log on from my iPhone, it doesn’t hook up with my identity despite it being the same email address… still trying to figure that one out!

            • April 15, 2013 at 2:15 AM

              Hey Haydaki!

              First off, and without meaning any offence to anyone here, if I got mad over something someone posted about me here in a public forum where I expect my comments to be commented on – I’d take a long hard look at myself!!! They way I see this forum is catching up with the girls for a coffee or a cocktail (can’t wait till I can have one of those again). I really don’t take offence to much unless someone comes out aggressively attacking me which never happens so don’t worry! We can’t all see the same thing – contributing and sharing opinions and views actually really excites me – and before that sounds too crazy, I assure you, I would be just as excited by discussing a good game of netball or an article in the New Yorker. This programme is just one of my interests and at the end of the day whilst we are discussing real people it is just a show that has this incredibly crazy and scandalous life of it’s own.

              Now I’m also very aware that I am far from perfect and you make a good point but please bare in mind that this blog is made up of links and comments directing people to the gossip about these women. I don’t see how “good old Perez” compares to “that bitch Faux” and the thousand other posts OhNo was posting last night. This one being the one I was mainly put off by:

              “You know what caused the problem with Stark and Faux? stark questioned the timing of Bryan opening a twitter account in 2011

              Also think about this with an open mind:
              Q. how would Teresa know who Bryan was?”

              How does your regular viewer know this and in all honesty, I would prefer to be discussing the real characters, not the sideshow if you know what I mean – that whole mess was just way too intense for someone like me who just wants a chat.

              Calling Faux, for example a goof wasn’t my concern but perhaps this stream of conversation will put an end to all of it. I don’t know, as with everything, it goes in degrees doesn’t it? Do we let someone get away with calling cancer sufferers c*^ts or wishing ill health on someone with a brain tumour because they construct a page? Maybe I’m talking semantics, maybe I’m just rambling. Maybe I’m breaking the rules.

              I think that maybe I am to blame about the confusion – I wasn’t referring to you or Holy. I was referring to Oh No seemingly coming on here to set the cat amongst the pigeons and boy, what a great job she/he did! To me, Oh No, someone who’s never posted before, jumped in aggressively boots and all and I agree with Red Velvet when she/he stated their belief it was QoM. What we’ve been discussing is serious and whenever the serious stuff comes out so do other people. Hey, I could be wrong! Wouldn’t be the first time.

              I also think that you’re commenting on the comment below mine and fair call – but I need to reiterate that our Fame is just one person so the board requires a bit of self moderation. We are fortunate as a group that this space is made available to talk freely amongst ourselves. I guess I see that as a measure of trust and respect which I endeavour to reciprocate. Could you imagine if every word was held in moderation? We wouldn’t have this dialogue.

              Long story short, I accept your point but as with everything the lines get blurry. I’ve really enjoyed this conversation to stop and think but I end up in a circle of confusion or is it baby brain?

              • Detroitrockcity
                April 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM

                No,No!! Your doing great Moma; ) Sackem!! : ) this sh*ts just nuts!!; )

          • Anonymous
            April 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM

            Absolutely agree about the visitors being under the guise of regular posters. Very Obvious

            • haydaki
              April 15, 2013 at 12:38 AM

              Lily M, Anonymous, Anna, Whoever you may be???? SINCE THE SAME AVI, IS COMING UP FOR ALL YOUR POSTS! Please do not think I included you in my previous post, as a personal attack. This crap is getting to cuckoo for cocoa puffs!!!!! What the heck is going on in this place?

              • haydaki
                April 15, 2013 at 12:53 AM

                And why is Anonymous and Sackem, answering themselves on my Previous post(that was a copy of other post) WTF?????????

                • April 15, 2013 at 2:17 AM

                  … because we’re not.

      • April 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM

        Yes, it’s Monday. Back on top of the mountain- that’s how I see my weeks, ready to slide into the weekend again. I’m starting Mum’s and Bub’s this week – they are training sessions, apparently your muscles don’t magically pop back in after be distended for 9 months…

        • April 14, 2013 at 8:46 PM

          The muscles certainly don’t pop back in! Glad to hear you are doing some training sessions as it will be good to get out and meet new mum’s!

          • April 14, 2013 at 9:04 PM

            We have local govt run Mother’s Groups but I can’t join being away from home at the moment so this is the next best thing – I’ll get into Mother’s Group when I get home. It’s so important to be surrounded by people to talk through what’s happening, I think that’s why I love it here.

        • jus me for now
          April 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM


  36. Jersey
    April 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM


    I could not respond to you earlier because I spent the day with my family at the soccer field and then baseball. Jersey and I are not related. I know people who know the family. The people I talked to are not related to Johnny. Jersey Girl assumed I am Greek and that I am a mouthpiece for the family. Which iI am not. Rhutts is a famous local place and the family has owned it for years so I always run into someone who knows the family. The brawl at the Poshe 2 is all over the paper and everybody is talking about it.

    Like I said before I am a daughter of Italian immigrants and I grew up in a town that had a number of Greek immigrants. The Greeks I grew up with are not related to Johnny’s family and they don”t know them. I do know the Greeks and the Italians think alike. I know my dad would be disappointed and angry if my brother was chasing 15 minutes of fame to be on a reality show rather than the family business. It’s the family business that is supporting Johnny’s family not Bravo.

    My SIL is a special Ed teacher and she makes great money. Penny’s friend should entourage her to find a job as a teacher because there is a shortage in NJ,

    • April 14, 2013 at 7:49 PM

      Thanks Jersey – it seemed to be getting personal before.

      • Jersey
        April 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

        Jersey girl is making it personnel. Anyone who grew up in or near Clifton NJ knows Johnny’s family. You don’t have to be Greek or a family member to find information on them because their story is all over the paper and everybody is talking about it. Today at my son’s baseball game they were talking about RHONJ. They were at a an event that Jennifer Dalton had hosted. They had pictures of Teresa and a parent on the other team recognized Johnny when he saw his picture in the paper. This parent is a state trooper and he says Johnny is a very funny guy.

        • April 14, 2013 at 8:47 PM

          I have no idea of the size of Jersey so it’s a mystery – they still are just people on my screen, not my neighbours!

          • April 14, 2013 at 9:23 PM

            It’s not so much the size of the state, but the size of the city/town/community they live and grew up in. For example, I live in Phoenix which is a huge city; however, the community I live in is pretty tight, but sadly growing away from that. I’ve lived here 30+ years and my daughters went to school with many of the friends kids that I went to school with. My hubby moved here from TX with his ex and I went to high school with her and lo and behold all of his friends. I would imagine it is very similiar in OZ.

            • April 14, 2013 at 9:32 PM

              Yes, it is we have states then little local communities but I guess you don’t alway envisage that when you’re watching a show.

          • Jersey
            April 14, 2013 at 9:27 PM


            Anyone who lives in Northern NJ has heard of or has been to Rutts Hutts and The Brownstone. Since the same families have owned these places for years, you will always meet someone who knows Johnny family or the Manzos.

            • April 14, 2013 at 9:32 PM


  37. Oh no that bitch didn't!
    April 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    I would like to clear something up.
    I just got done reading 92 % of the comments and just saw how you were asking that other names not be mentioned. I just saw it for the first time. I do read your blog often and do enjoy it, I don’t read the comments as much only because I am usually at work on a break when I do read.
    Aside from mast nights comments, when I made my first reply today – then another reply to you I believe from last night, I then saw Holy Canolli reply and started to converse with her. I did not realize that there was over 200 comments on this post and did not see the comment about not posting what you were referring to. I did reply to other comments and see now I was able to see them; after hitting reply, the page refreshes automatically and goes back to the thread so the other comments I replied to were right around Holy Cannoli.
    My blog etiquette is bad and I now see that I should scroll. I am new to this. If I upset you I am really sorry. I was never trying to attack anyone who others assumed I was , I was just giving my opinion and to see what you thought.
    I am not that person that others called me. I am still dusting myself off from that dagger.

  38. fbunnie
    April 14, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Hitting someone in the head with a heel?? Sounds like something a stripper would do…

    • elemcee
      April 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM


  39. haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Fame, I have enjoyed your blog and reading all your comments but this is all getting way to much to me. To Mz Julesaz, I have enjoyed your comments as well!

    I think it would be great to get all these aliases straight, cause its all so confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Fame, in all fairness all these aliases need to be addressed as well because these schizophrenic things are answering themselves. This is starting to be a laughing stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    I have to screen shot this crap cause no one will ever be. So Sackem , lets get this straight you are LilyM, Anonymous, and Anna? And they all talk to each other?

    • haydaki
      April 15, 2013 at 1:08 AM

      Oh wait and I forgot one more, AUTUMNL!!!!!!!!!!!WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • haydaki
        April 15, 2013 at 1:10 AM

        Jeannie, Where are you help me out? Lets play a game! People just may be getting played!!!!!

        • haydaki
          April 15, 2013 at 1:21 AM

          Anonymous says:

          April 15, 2013 at 12:08 AM

          Oooh! I’m nervous and excited to get back to my computer to read y


          Sackem says:

          April 15, 2013 at 12:39 AM

          That was me!!! Posting from my iPhone while I was out!!!!


          haydaki says:

          April 15, 2013 at 12:43 AM

          So, you are “Anonymous”, Sackem. Answering yourself down below

          • April 15, 2013 at 2:30 AM

            Why the hell would I admit to being that anonymous if I was trying to deceive? Whoa. Deep breaths lady.

          • April 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

            haydaki, I have been reading and posting on this blog for over a year now. I am not certain what, if anything happened to the avitars this weekend. I assure you Sackem is Sackem and only Sackem. I checked all the avitars about a week ago, after Jeannie pointed something out. I only checked it out on two or three blogs by Fame. With the exception of one poster and only one poster, they all checked out.

  42. haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 1:27 AM

    Sackem is a fraud and i’m out, not wasting anymore time on this foolishness.

    • haydaki
      April 15, 2013 at 2:14 AM

      Anonymous says:

      April 13, 2013 at 1:30 AM

      I live in Detroit,that’s how Kawammi Kilpatric got busted, they went back years into his text messages!! Also about 30 other peoples text, so you can delet all you want but its already written in stone,sorta like the 10 commandments!! ; ) The Red Sea is about to be parted again!! Holy Moses!! Luv ya,Detroitrockcity!


      OH AND I NOTICED OPRAH@SPAGHETTI KITCHEN IS ONE IN THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Boy, oh boy but I get called out for talking about a blogger, I am so Pissed right now. If anyone finds any others feel free to post. I have copies of it all and if this crap is not exposed, I swear i’m going on blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      This is so fucking creepy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m is shock, disgust, repulsed and down right disappointed. I’m sorry but I am so hurt and upset!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • April 15, 2013 at 2:21 AM

        OK, Now I’m going to get angry! Technology is not a perfect thing and in all honesty, I cannot instantly satisfy your questions. I hope you’re not questioning my integrity – I think I’ve got enough runs on the board if you know what I mean! Jez – I’ve just had a kid, I’ve barely got time to scratch my arse let alone invent other identities. Hate to burst your bubble but Sybil I’m not!

      • whodat2112
        April 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM

        HOLY COW! Chill out! You can not be serious! Many different comments come up as anonymous! Mine have as well when posting from my iPhone! Maybe a nice walk with some fresh air would do you some good!

      • April 15, 2013 at 10:10 AM

        Cue the Twilight music.

    • Anonymous
      April 15, 2013 at 2:26 AM

      What are you talking about ! She just told you who she was!! She was using her phone, which she comes up anonymous on!!!!! I think you do need to take a break, your kinda sounding coocoo for coco puffs!! DRC

      • Anonymous
        April 15, 2013 at 11:39 AM


        • JUS ME FOR NOW
          April 15, 2013 at 11:41 AM


          • April 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM

            Celi! You’re to brilliant for words!

          • April 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM

            Hope all is well with you Celi.

            • JUS ME FOR NOW
              April 15, 2013 at 6:44 PM

              its not alright but you all make it bareable and i get away from thoughts memories ,things but our lil girl cant getaway from it all,but appreciate soooooo all your prayers and kind thoughts ,it truly helps .
              thank you jackie mama

              • April 15, 2013 at 6:50 PM

                Oh Celi, my heart absolutely breaks for you.

    • April 15, 2013 at 10:08 AM

      Are you crazy? You are the foolishness. Get a freaking grip. This is not a psychiatrist’s office.

  43. haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    I swear I’m so upset and cannot stop crying over this, I came on here for a little honesty! I have been deceived and humiliated, all wrapped into one! How can someone deceive people for so long.

    • April 15, 2013 at 2:23 AM

      I’m officially done – you need to calm down and think rationally or get someone to explain to you how the internet works sweetheart. Get back to me when you do.

      • Anonymous
        April 15, 2013 at 2:32 AM

        Hey,Sackem!! DRC here!! I think someone has officially lost their noodle!!;)

        • April 15, 2013 at 2:37 AM

          The walls were obviously closing in… I’ll accept an apology at any time and we can pretend it never happened!

          • April 15, 2013 at 2:39 AM

            Now, I’m going to bath my child… and put my Santa Claus suit on.

          • Anonymous
            April 15, 2013 at 2:57 AM

            Hello Detroitrockcity here!! I’m not Sackem and she’s not me,you are clearly confused!! If you’ve been around here long enough you would know that!! Sometimes I forget to ID myself? Doesn’t seem like something to go cray cray over??!!? Just ask Fame I’m sure she can clear this up for you!!

        • Anonymous
          April 15, 2013 at 2:40 AM

          I come up Anonymous too! Cuz I’m on a different phone!! DRC 😉

          • April 15, 2013 at 2:44 AM

            You kinda gotta laugh at the whole thing – and no I don’t mean AT you Haydaki. Now I really gotta bath Ava. Can’t wait to get back on.

            • Anonymous
              April 15, 2013 at 3:18 AM

              Give Ava a big ole hug and kiss from the Easter Bunny AKA DRC!! Hehe!! 😉 😉

              • April 15, 2013 at 3:26 AM

                I can understand the confusion – and I just have visions of myself sitting in a room full of computers scrambling to answer myself! To an outsider – we’d all look nuts!!!!! And we have had this type of thing before to be fair BUT NOT ME!!!! If I sign on from a different device I always sign it to prevent this happening but today my thumb got away from me.

                Too funny.

              • April 15, 2013 at 3:27 AM

                PS Hope this cheered you up tonight!!!

            • momajackie
              April 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM

              Give Ava a hug and kiss for me too. This is Moma, posting from a foreign vessel.

    • whodat2112
      April 15, 2013 at 7:06 AM

      OMG! 1st of all if you’re crying over this you may need to step away from the computer! 2nd any time I post from my iPhone it posts as anonymous, in fact, I asked why it was doing it a couple of months ago! Sackem is not posting as other people! WOW, all of these blogs(no offense Fame, I mean the comments) have been nuts lately!!!

    • April 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

      Crying? CRYING? There is no crying in baseball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  44. April 15, 2013 at 3:35 AM

    Damn I hate the time difference here in Australia – and it is Australia….

    • Anonymous
      April 15, 2013 at 3:59 AM

      Laughing my “arse off!!” I think thats how you say it in Australia?? Tehe! All I gotta say is wowwwwww!! Luv ya Sackem,thanks for the smile!! You could be the man on the Moon for all I care!!Your awsome!! 😉

      • Anonymous
        April 15, 2013 at 4:03 AM

        Sorry forgot to sign my name above? DRC ^^

      • April 15, 2013 at 4:06 AM

        Right back atchya!!! You gotta see the funny side of things and yes you got it right! The joys of the internet!

  45. haydaki
    • Anonymous
      April 15, 2013 at 4:51 AM

      If you want to try out how this all works, anyone, just go to the bottom of the article. In the comments section, they let you try it out. Its UNIQUE to your email address you input. Oh and by the way you cant submit a comment without an email address, just like here.

      I noticed my email and user name is already in the post comments section here, so that why my little pink avi shows up on all my comments. However, if you delete your info at the bottom of screen before commenting, a new UNIQUE avi will show up for you, just in case you are someone else. It doesn’t give the same avi to anyone. Now if you go ahead and type in your email address you use it will go right back to your Unique avi. Kind of cool!

      • Haydaki
        April 15, 2013 at 4:53 AM

        See how that works different name, same email!!!!! So it me, Haydaki!!!!!

      • April 15, 2013 at 5:10 AM

        Myth busted – you can submit without an email address – I went back to my phone to figure it out and it’s all blank.. but hey, why trust me seeing as though you’ve attacked my credibility.

  46. haydaki
    • April 15, 2013 at 4:31 AM

      And where’s the section which explains to you what happens to the Avitar if you don’t fill in the details section? There are lines of data which need to be filled in order to maintain the programme. If the programme allows you to post by leaving that section blank it will generate generic information hence the attribution of the specific Avitar to Anonymous. It seems to be recognising what is filled into those lines and in this instance, it is nothing.

      What do you think? We could be cracking the WordPress code.

      • Anonymous
        April 15, 2013 at 4:51 AM

        Bawwwwwwhahaaaaaaaaaaaa;) DRC!!!

      • Anonymous
        April 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

        I am going to try this. This is Moma and that is why I have a picture ID on all but my experimental posts.

        • Mom
          April 15, 2013 at 5:05 PM

          I am certain Fame knows which IP addresses these posts are coming from. It is me, Moma, again, trying something different.

          • April 15, 2013 at 5:06 PM

            It did not work. lol Let me try something else.

            • April 15, 2013 at 6:04 PM

              bwhahaha! Love it!

              • Anonymous
                April 15, 2013 at 6:10 PM

                You have been cleared, publicly. lol My mom said I should have been an attorney. My daughter is here with me. We all went to the French Quarter Fest together. I will use her email. Let us see what we get.

                • April 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM

                  You rock!

  47. April 15, 2013 at 4:29 AM

    I have read most of the post and the one thing about JTG and Penny that most people have failed to state is that JTG and Penny did not say anything about the Gorgas/Messy until she started running her mouth about Penny’s business. According to him it was a man protecting his wife and her business. Why is it ok for them to start this — but not ok for him to run his mouth on twitter. Also if you follow him on twitter and I do you will notice he says he will get the people that know about Messy and slow Joe.. If it is true they were running their mouths and this was before the end of season 3 then it is fair game. You can’t have it both ways. I hope he comes out of this smelling like a rose for the simple fact that you had basically 9 people on him that night. 3 security guards, 2 Lauriatts, 1 Gorga and 3 Manzo’s which were just trying to break it up but trust me I guarantee they were not trying to help him. I do not know this man from Adam but this was a set up I would bet on it. and their is only 2 common sources for all the troubles at the Posh fashion shows and they are Kim D and Wacko Jacko.. Like I said I hope they pay it will be about time.. Just wondering if someone can answer this question what amount of time does each of these offenses carry. and if found guilty can they get only probation??? Hope you like Orange Wacko…

    • Jersey
      April 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM

      Why didn’t Johnny go to Joe Gorga’s place of business and simply tell him to tell his wife to knock it off. It was not necessary to rope in his buddy Angelo and cooperate with the Bravo producers to bring Melissa down unless you want to be on the show. The world did not know who Penny was until Angelo gave his interview with Allabouttrh.com. I feel sorry for Johnny because the only compensated he received was a black eye and a bruised forehead. He will get some money now because I feel Bravo will settle with Johnny because they don’t want to turn over their unedited taped. What ever he gets it still is not worth what he went through.

      • April 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM

        That is the key point. They don’t want to turn over the unedited tape. Bet they lost the one in Punta Cana, too.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM

      An interesting observation David – the commone denominators – Kim D. and Jacqueline. Remember how they talk for an hour and a half every day?

    • Oh no that bitch didn't!
      April 15, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      First sentence = true.
      Last sentence = I hope she gets something but for some reason I do not think she will. I bet Bravo tries to pay them off.

  48. Haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 5:02 AM

    Now this is me again, haydaki! Different unique Avi for a different unique email!

  49. Haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 5:03 AM

    one unique email, with unique avi!

  50. Haydaki
    April 15, 2013 at 5:06 AM

    my other unique email, with my other unique avi! Same me!

    Now someone try and get my avi! I tried on other sites, cant do it!

    Try it for yourself!

    • April 15, 2013 at 5:11 AM

      For shits and giggles, try leaving it all blank…

    • April 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

      I left it blank, then tried just a name, then my website. It left the avitar everytime. It is up there. Just me experimenting. I am back!

      • April 15, 2013 at 5:12 PM

        “same” avitar…

  51. Anonymous
    April 15, 2013 at 5:13 AM


    • April 15, 2013 at 5:34 AM

      Now who said that? Bwhahahahaha!

      • April 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM

        Seriously because it looks like that Avitar – which is actually called a Gravatar has gone to DRC! Which is bloody Murphy’s Law!

        • April 15, 2013 at 6:10 AM

          Ugh, the suspense is killing me!

          • Detroitrockcity
            April 15, 2013 at 8:02 AM

            That was me? Whats going on??? Im confused??

            • April 15, 2013 at 8:18 AM

              I asked Haydkai to post blank to see how it came up – perfect timing! Ugh, this is all a bit to hard!

              • Detroitrockcity
                April 15, 2013 at 8:26 AM

                I’m still stuck on the time thing?!?! 🙂

  52. Detroitrockcity
    April 15, 2013 at 5:20 AM

    What is the time differance in Australia?

    • Detroitrockcity
      April 15, 2013 at 5:23 AM

      Hehe,how easy was that ; )

      • April 15, 2013 at 5:30 AM

        It’s 1900.

        • Detroitrockcity
          April 15, 2013 at 7:56 AM

          So thats 7pm our time??

          • April 15, 2013 at 7:58 AM

            No my time. So it’s 2127 here now….

            • Detroitrockcity
              April 15, 2013 at 8:05 AM

              Sorry ment your time!!; )

              • April 15, 2013 at 8:16 AM

                Are you wearing your smarty pants?

                • April 15, 2013 at 8:20 AM

                  As in you are me and I am you. It’s become a comedy of errors I tells ya! I laughed I cried, it was better than Cats.

                  • Detroitrockcity
                    April 15, 2013 at 11:53 AM

                    Yes I am, as a matter of fact, I’m pulling them up right now! ; )

              • Detroitrockcity
                April 15, 2013 at 8:21 AM

                I don’t know,?? Got my name up, now I need a class in TEC 101!! ; (

                • Detroitrockcity
                  April 15, 2013 at 8:41 AM

                  Think its nap time? We need fresh brains!!! So we are almost 12 hours apart that’s crazy! Good morning and Good evening at the same time?!!

                  • Detroitrockcity
                    April 15, 2013 at 8:51 AM

                    Always wished to see Cats live,but got to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles live,at the Masonic Temple! ! It was cool!!

                  • Detroitrockcity
                    April 15, 2013 at 8:51 AM

                    Always wished to see Cats live,but got to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles live,at the Masonic Temple! ! It was cool!!

                    • Detroitrockcity
                      April 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM

                      Dont know why it doubled, guess it must have been a really,really good time!!; )

                    • April 15, 2013 at 9:06 AM


                  • Jeannie5233
                    April 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM

                    I think what is causing some confusion with the time zone is that Sackem is 15 hours apart from EDT. DRC – you I believe are on Central Daylight Time? And Sackem – do you use the 24 hour time system or the 12 hour? I am in brain fog right now – not enough morning coffee and I can’t recall what the specific name is called but here in the States we use 12 hours.

                    • April 15, 2013 at 9:42 AM

                      I personally use the 24 hour clock mainly due to work – with sunrises and sunsets but it is old fashioned. I’d say we would more regularly defer to AM/PM down here.

                    • Detroitrockcity
                      April 15, 2013 at 10:50 AM

                      And one Heart! You guys are so great, thanks is all I gotta say!;)

                    • Anonymous
                      April 15, 2013 at 5:14 PM

                      It is me, Moma, and I know how to get that avitar.

                    • April 15, 2013 at 5:50 PM

                      Tell us Moma! Cause it’s killing me! It’s like a rubix cube to me now.

                    • Anonymous
                      April 15, 2013 at 6:04 PM

                      We all know I have my own brand, when I sign in with my email. I will sign in under my hubby’s email and this will happen.

                    • Sack
                      April 15, 2013 at 6:05 PM

                      When I sign in, using nothing, then the Mom name, then using just my website this is what I get. I will use, “Sack” as my name.

                    • April 15, 2013 at 6:22 PM

                      Nope still confused

                    • April 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM

                      Got it Moma!

  53. Jersey
    April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    Wow I am having my morning coffee and just finished reading the posts from Sackem and Haydaki. Haydaki if these comments are making you so upset than I think you should step away. It’s not worth it. I don’t understand why you are so upset at Sackem because she has not trashed anyone who doesn’t agree with her. She respects everyone’s opinion. Who cares where she is from as long as everybody respects each others opinions. I have no reason not to believe she from Australia because I don’t know her.

    I don’t get upset and I am attacked on this sight. I have someone who still insists I am Greek, and a mouthpiece for Johnny’s family. She insists that she knows and trust me she doesn’t. I was called evil and she even insinuated that because I live along the Hudson that I am trash. Meanwhile it is not cheap to live along the Hudson. I get reminded of that every 3 months when I have to pay my real estate taxes.

  54. holy cannoli
    April 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    I just read what went on. I don’t know who is who, what is what. I just know I am me, holy cannoli.

    • Jersey
      April 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM

      If you are not Holy Cannoli it’s not anybody’s business, because we are here to post are opinions. I am not going to waste my time and have people who post on this site investigated. It’s ridiculous.

      • Detroitrockcity
        April 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM

        Omg! We are who we always where, someone tried to flip a switch, do you know who you really are??

        • holy cannoli
          April 15, 2013 at 9:06 AM

          Yea, I know who I really am! So does Fame, and that’s all that matters to me!

          BTW, My point is I don’t care who is who!!!

      • Jeannie5233
        April 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

        Jersey – Right on!!!!

        After coming on here and seeing all of this, I am astounded. I have been posting here for a very long time and I can vouch that Sackem is Sackem and DRC is DRC. And, no question, AutumnL or Autumn or AutmnLeaves are ONE AND THE SAME.

        I am sorry I brought up that little game – because that is all it was – a little game. It was very elementary – I am certainly not a technology expert and have absolutely no knowledge how WordPress works or assigns gravatars, avatars, spazatars. I do believe it has something to do with IP addresses but I could be dead wrong. I also think it has to do with what type of device but also has to do with your carrier. Apple can give you different carriers between your IPhone, IPad, and your Apple desktop. Same thing with droids, tablets, and PCs. I have noticed that most times, but not all, when a person signs in as “Anonymous” the blue Gravatar comes up.

        We have no idea how WordPress works – even the bloggers who use it have been confused and are not sure. Fame has stated many times how things have happened and she can’t even explain it. .

        I am so sorry I ever brought up that game and I cannot believe what all of this has evolved into. This saddens me greatly. What a shame it has come down to investigations and accusations.

        Thank You, Jersey for putting this all in the proper place!

        • April 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

          I liked the game Ms Jeannie!

          Thank you to everyone for sharing their thoughts – I do find it funny but it kind of bums me out that my contributions from now on may be looked at suspiciously – takes the “enjoyment” out of it for want of a better word because I do enjoy talking to you all, but hey as Juicy would say “It is what it is – Whatever, forgedabout it”. That’s the risk you take by contributing publicly!

          • holy cannoli
            April 15, 2013 at 9:39 AM

            I know whats it like to have someone acusse you of being someone you are not @ Sackem, it sucks. Chris Stark did that to me on this site,and she went to twitter to spew her nonsense.

            When I contacted Fame she straightened it out. I only did that because Chris was on here alot at that time, and everyone was all over her, thinking she was the best/ knows everything. Ha!

            So from now on, I don’t care who says what about me, who can ascuses me of being someone eles, whatever.. Fame knows who I am, and so do I ;), and thats all that matters to me.

            • April 15, 2013 at 9:43 AM

              Thanks Holy! And thanks Jersey!

              • Detroitrockcity
                April 15, 2013 at 10:39 AM

                This just got carried on to the Crazy Side, Hopefuly everyones on the same page today?!? I see my name in lights, totally cool!!! Ha! Lu ya Sackem,have you ever thought about becoming a hellestic docter!! Oh wait I spelled it wrong!

                • April 15, 2013 at 1:47 PM


              • love4peace
                April 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

                this is a mess, i was doing yard work yesterday and didn’t have time to get on here. I wouldn’t worry about this we know who you are. I was love4fame, but one day i accidentally typed in love 4peace and i liked it so here we are. I hope a new blog comes soon so we can put this behind us. I love this blog and it does feel like we are all friends.

          • love4peace
            April 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM

            nope,(I do find it funny but it kind of bums me out that my contributions from now on may be looked at suspiciously) not gonna happen.i enjoy reading you thoughts. I’m sorry this happened.

            • April 15, 2013 at 1:46 PM

              Hey Love! Thank you for your reassurance! It really does feel like we’re all friends!

        • Jeannie5233
          April 15, 2013 at 10:17 AM

          One more thing as I feel this must be said –

          Sackem has been with Fame pretty much from when Fame first started this blog – for over a year she has been a regular on this blog. The more someone posts, the more glimpses that person gives to see the inside of that person’s moral fiber and character. You can tell what a person is about by reading their thoughts and writings after a long period of time.

          The way I see it – out of ANY of us here, including myself, Sackem has impeccable credibility, character, and judgement with a knack of being able to see both sides to a position and diffusing potential conflict. I have the utmost respect for her.

          • love4peace
            April 15, 2013 at 10:41 AM

            i agree

          • Marcy
            April 15, 2013 at 10:45 AM

            That’s why we all love you here Jeannie…The voice of reason. I can’t wait sometimes to read comments from these highly inteligent professional women. I sware they’re the BEST!!! In Teresa’s words Love,Love,Love these girls!!!!

          • Detroitrockcity
            April 15, 2013 at 11:08 AM

            Like I said she can be the Man on The zMoon!! Who cares! Im Happy! : )

          • JUS ME FOR NOW
            April 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM


            • elemcee
              April 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

              Celi, you are being very naughty, insulting yourself like that! We see your beauty in every word you type.

            • Jeannie5233
              April 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM

              celi – I certainly hope you are being sarcastic here – oh my goodness! WE LOVE OUR CELI!!!

            • April 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM

              Celi! You are the best! I’m with Jeannie – I hope you’re not being serious! I always smile when I see you here.

              • JUS ME FOR NOW
                April 15, 2013 at 5:20 PM

                OK I AM
                THANKS LOVE YOU ALL

          • April 15, 2013 at 1:52 PM

            …. Jeannie the feeling is absolutely mutual! THANKS EvERYONE. Absolutely blushing to wake up and find these posts. There’s a great group here – including Hydkai!

        • April 15, 2013 at 5:24 PM

          Jeannie, the IP’s have nothing to do with it. I made a Gravitar, so I would be identified in all of my posts. I remember the problems Honnie had and I also wanted a picture like mzjules. When I posted using my hubby’s email, I got a different avitar. When I posted using no info, then using just a name and after using my website, I got the sam avitar.

          • Jeannie5233
            April 15, 2013 at 9:29 PM

            Thanks moma for this! Like I said, I am not very computer literate – actually, barely computer literate! I just got a new Ipad today and I am nervous using it!

    • April 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM

      I am gessiewtf. the wtf came when bloggers switched to wordpress and I got a little frustrated trying to sign in. but I thought wordpress decided that I should add wtf to my name for some street cred. Holy Cannoli, your name is sweet, just like you. Why are we even having this conversation?

      • holy cannoli
        April 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM

        Aww thanks @gessie. I can be a bitch though, lol!

        I love your posts, always have!

      • Jeannie5233
        April 15, 2013 at 10:40 AM

        Hey gessie – no one could ever question who you are!! Between your writings and your avi – it would be hard to! And that question you ask at the end here – it is a good one as this should never have started in the first place! As usual, you also have put this into the proper perspective.

        • Detroitrockcity
          April 15, 2013 at 11:01 AM

          Just found out what an Avi is(sort of) I’m new to all this sh*t, good thing I have friends! ; )

        • April 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM

          I’m not about to try to change my avatar to prove who I am. I don’t have the intellect.

          • holy cannoli
            April 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM

            lol @gessie!

      • April 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM

        I think the WTF definitely gives you an edge.

      • April 15, 2013 at 5:25 PM

        As usual, you gave me a laugh.

  55. holy cannoli
    April 15, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    I have been with Fame since she started, I remember when Sackem came on here after she left RT. I was happy to see her on here, I always loved her posts on RT.

    • April 15, 2013 at 1:27 PM

      I loved Sackem’s posts on RT as well. I remember one night on RT, it was a slow night and there a fellow Aussie on there with her and they had this hilarious conversation in Aussie slang. I laughed for an hour.

      • April 15, 2013 at 1:37 PM

        WOW! You guys are amazing! Thank you!

    • Dubbalicious
      April 15, 2013 at 8:35 PM

      I have to agree Holy! I also first read Sackems posts @ RT. So logical, insightful..most important, intelligent. I felt for you Sackem…you didn’t quite know your audience.(tough crowd there). Shortly after that you came here!!

      • April 15, 2013 at 10:58 PM

        Thanks Dubba! I was alright until I got stalked! People are fascinating don’t you think?

  56. holy cannoli
    April 15, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Ok … Anyone have any scoop? Did anything go on, on twitter this weekend with these asshats?

    I did read that Ashlee was interviewing for buzznet at The MTV movie awards..Good for her.

    • Detroitrockcity
      April 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM

      She seems like a great kid! She needs to have her own voice, Gia too! ! They didn’t have a choice!! Good luck Bambinos!!: )

      • holy cannoli
        April 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM

        I think she is doing much better away from her mother and the Manzos. But she is still like her mother when it comes to involving herself in drama, and opening up her big mouth on twitter. Hopefully she will grow up one day.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      While I used to have empathy, and on some levels still do, it appears that perhaps Ashlee doesn’t fall far from the tree:

      Teresa Giudice ‏@Teresa_Giudice 12 Apr
      Know why I love @RumorFix? They talk DIRECTLY to people
      to get to the bottom of tabloid trash! Thank you! http://rumorfix.com/
      1:34 PM – 12 Apr 13

      Ashlee Holmes ‏@ashleeholmes 12 Apr
      @Teresa_Giudice @RumorFix It doesn’t make it true.
      2:28 PM – 12 Apr 13

      • holy cannoli
        April 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM

        Thats what I was saying in my post ^^^.. She is like her mother.

        • Jeannie5233
          April 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

          yup – 😉

  57. Detroitrockcity
    April 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Nite Ava, Sweet Dreams!!

    • April 15, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      I took everyone’s advice she did a big 6 hour sleep! I’m feeding her now.

      • JUS ME FOR NOW
        April 15, 2013 at 5:25 PM


        • April 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

          Thanks Celi! We’ll see how the day goes with these cluster feeds

  58. LilyM
    April 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    I saw I was mentioned on the tread above, I don’t think is necessary to say it again but when you use smartphone or Ipad it comes as anonymous, sometimes you forget to sing, that’s it, no biggie, love you Sackem you always make me giggle !!

    Ok, I want to make a point, I don’t know if people will agree but here it is. We don’t know who we are in real life, in here we are just a name on a screen, so we can agree to disagree all we want, at the end of the day we don’t know each other personally, so we have the option to step away from here if people don’t agree with us (unlike in real life), so don’t take stuff to heart, it is great to have a forum to vent the frustration we feel from this “reality show” but is not necessary to get work up about what it said here, I love most of the posters in here, I don’t post very often but I try to check in every day, I always get a smile on my face from the comments and a fraun once and awhile, but I love it, so Be Happy sisters, the real frustration is coming up on June 2nd, is it? do I have the right date for season 5 ? 🙂

    Ok, thats all, love you gals, and Fame. Keep it up please I really enjoy this Blog !!

    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

      I like ALL the posters on here. I enjoy all their posts! Do I agree with everything all of them say? Hell No! Do they agree with everything I say? Hell No! I respect their opinions, and agree to disagree at times.

      • LilyM
        April 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

        I agree, and I really enjoy your comments Holy, and I think I agree with you almost every time, I don’t remember ever thinking to myself ” Oh. that Holy is not right” you know what I mean ? 🙂

        • holy cannoli
          April 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM

          Yes, I know what you mean Lily.. I enjoy your comments as well. 🙂

    • LilyM
      April 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      I manage to change my avatar, lol like I don’t have anything else to do… ;D

      • LilyM
        April 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM

        What?? where is it ? lol… Talking to myself here 🙂

    • April 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM

      Good point!

  59. elemcee
    April 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Omg, what fresh hell is this? Sackem, if you have thirty personalities I love them all!

    Holy, I have never thought you were bitchy. You are witty and can bring the snark, which I love!

    And everyone who was up all night (except Sackem because it is not night) are very, very naughty! You need your rest!


    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      @ elemcee

      I love ya 🙂

    • April 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      Thanks Elemcee!! I love seeing your name on the board and reading your thoughts.

  60. April 15, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    I’m sorry but Cracker Jac’s testimony makes no sense. I have not had time to read through the comments but if anyone else feels this way; why was JtGrk not there to discredit her claims? Or is it how NJ does things?
    If the Production Co does turn over tapes and it shows Jlied, do you think the judge will charge her with Perjury? Or will it be swept under the rug?

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM

      Hi Keep calm, I have a very nasty feeling that this will get swept under the Bravo rug. It must be really dirty under that rug by now. I think Jax lied because she thinks Bravo will back her up and JTG will back down. Jax is woefully ignorant or why would she be so righteous as to spout inanities about a business bankruptcy? Jax probably believes these charges happened while she was “filming” and it is part of her script so she is not responsible. Only time will tell.

  61. Anna
    April 15, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Haydaki , you wrote this:

    I have to screen shot this crap cause no one will ever be. So Sackem , lets get this straight you are LilyM, Anonymous, and Anna? And they all talk to each other

    Just read what went on here this weekend, Haydeki, I also don’t know who is who, I am NOT Sackem, but Anna from Holland (Europe).
    Thats why my words are frequently misspelled in English, pay close attention to my many english misspelled words and you should know me from now on. Haydaki, love your comments here on the blog, no hard feelings.

    • April 15, 2013 at 1:40 PM

      Wow, it’s syndicated in Holland! This show’s everywhere!

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM

        I am not quite sure what happened here after reading and playing catch up on the thread. Sackem I am very sorry that someone became unhappy at your expense. You are such a sweetie and I always enjoy your insightful posts and Ava updates. This is one of the kindest threads much like a coffee house or cafe where customers come and go, sit down and have a chat. I grew up in a small southern town where the old farmers and retired ranchers sat around the cafe and talked politics, or gossiped like old ladies over a game of dominoes. Lovely to see everyone’s opinions and while we all may disagree it is important to view opinions other than one’s own.

        • April 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM

          Thanks Pittypat -I always enjoy reading your’s to. There’s obviously a flaw in Gravitar’s system. Just because I was curious, I clicked on a few different one to compare it to that grey one that seems to be assigned to a few people and I’m wondering if it’s a phone thing. It comes up as universal false. The others come up as user unknown or something but the people who have added pictures seem to have built a profile so I think we’re looking at two systems at play here.

          Anyway, we could hypothesise for hours!

          • Aint Pittypat
            April 15, 2013 at 4:36 PM

            When I comment from my phone it has on occasion come up as anonymous. So I understand. Big hugs and gad to see everyone moving forward. Isn’t it amazing that real adults can wor out their issues but if we were in Bravo Reaity this could continue for years?

            • elemcee
              April 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM

              I do hope Haydaki continues to comment…

  62. April 15, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    AssLee always has to get involved.
    Did you ever notice when Asslee’s parents are accused of something it is always the person accusing them are called:
    Disgruntled Employees
    Fame Seekers/Whores
    Accused of plotting
    Meanwhile the only plotter is Jacqueline. Last year when Teresa showed the texts, the one that stuck out to me was where Jacqueline said, “I already talked to [the name was blacked out but I assume it was it was Kim D] she is not going to back you up at the reunion. That is just one example how sneaky and underhanded Jacqueline is. She is dangerous, if Bravo would get rid of her, we would see Jill Zarin times 100.

  63. Aint Pittypat
    April 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    I had a bit of insight this morning about the “Get Teresa ” mentality. Seems to me that if Teresa really wanted to out her sister-in-law she could have opened a huge can of whoop azz during last seasons reunion. The information about Bryan and MeGo has been floating around for quite some time and yet Teresa never so much as alluded to it. I’m sure if their neighborhood is like ours , a small community in a large city there are pockets of long time residents who have been around forever . There are no secrets in this group and I would lay odds that plenty more than JTG and Penny have been anxious to share what they know about the Marco family.
    Also why is it that Jax can gossip , Kim D can gossip, MeGo can gossip, Kathy can gossip, Don Caro can gossip but if Teresa utters a word about anyone the knives come out! What a complete double standard. I know Teresa has to remain above the fray but she is human. So what if she confides in other people about MeGo, or asks what Penny knows? Seriously? Is Teresa not allowed free speech without it becoming some huge conspiracy?

    • April 15, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      Great post!

    • love4peace
      April 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM

      it seems so

    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      Love this post, @ Aint

    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM

      Funny thing too @ Aint

      Remember how Cracker Jac spewed all her nonsense on twitter ( after the PFS, before season 3 reunion) about Teresa. Then went on for months and months about what she “knew” about Teresa, her ” friends” told her this and that, plus she made comments about her own sister in law Dina.. So no one can tell me that she ( and probably the others) do not listen to all gossip about their ” friend” and family members”. We know for sure Cracker Jac does..

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        ITA Holy Cannoli. It seems odd to me that Teresa is held to a much higher, almost impossible standard of behavior. She really is damned if she does and damned if she does not. The level of sanctimony from Jax and Mego just slays me. And yet no one ever calls them out on the show.

    • April 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

      I have a bizarre theory. We all know that this “semi-scripted”, right? In order for that to happen you would have to a story board for at least 2-3 seasons. I fully believe the producers have this. In S2 at the psychic that Jaq went to saw 5 daggers in Tre’s back. Could it just be that was part of the 1st seed the producers planted for S3 and S4? If there is any merit to my bizarre theory this could explain why it’s allowed. I know nuts.

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 15, 2013 at 6:13 PM

        I see the logic in your theory and it is entirely possible.

  64. April 15, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Hi everyone! I have read this blog from the beginning but this Is my first post. I look forward to reading everyone’s posts….you all have great points. I agree with Aint Pittypat….Teresa is held to a different standard than the others. They can say whatever they want but as soon as Teresa opens her mouth she is shut down. Why is it that the other ladies can have opinions but Teresa cannot?

  65. April 15, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Wow, I take a two day holiday, tried, but could not keep up with the almost 400 comments. I am only half-way through now. I feel I am finally getting back to the great book I was reading before I left home.

  66. April 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    this is beyond ridiculous…..the drama has now moved from reality shows to blogs now. I have seen sooo many well known blogs go into meltdown over commentator/poster drama. This is a reality show….more than likley NON OF US will ever know thse personalities personally. We see 40 minutes a week of which each of these women get probably eight minutes of in each episode. NON of us will ever truly know what really happens behind the scenes of any of these ladies (even the ones we like). These HW’s minuplate the viewers, bravo edits and manipulate, blogs and tabloids manipulate etc. SO in the end we take these pieces of edited/contrived content from social media, tv, and blogs to formulate opinons. Some of us at times are way off on the “real” reality of things other times we are right….who knows. It is a shame ppl get into twitter wars, blog wars, and poster wars on ppl we don’t even know….who don’t give two shits about any of the viewers. While we spend our energy and time on this (For free) these Hw’s get a paycheck for behaving like azzes. ALL of these women in every single franchise especially Jersey are narcasistic, manipultive, self centered, hypocritial biatches. No one is immune, even the ladies we like. To fight and get into nasty debates based on opinions is so ridiculous. Every one has a right to their opinion….and i don’t see why it is so hard to have a respectful healthy debate. It;s like elementary school for “adults” when i read comments from blogs across the board when dealing with HW’s. Bravo brings the worse in ppl with these shows i guess…even the viewers. Sheesh…sorry for my rant but this is like the third blog I have gone on over the course of a few days with poster drama. I just feel like yelling GET A GRIP…THIS IS NOT THAT SERIOUS PEOPLE. sHEESH.

    • April 15, 2013 at 5:57 PM

      Oh, My God, I totally agree. I missed half of it, because some posts were deleted. This is my escape, to comment on a show and interact with people. We have shared a little bit of our lives, our struggles (celi, DD, msjules knees, Jeannie’s mother, to name a few) and our happy times (Sackem, LilyM, my new grandchild, soom to be here, etc.) with each other. This is why this blog is what it is. It is really “NOT THAT SERIOUS”, unless someone has a vested interest in it.

      Look, I go away for 10 days in September. Let us all discuss what has to be said before I go. lol

      • April 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM

        I’m with you guys. But man I love a good puzzle – tell me Moma!!!!!!!!!!

        • April 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

          Each different email address will give you a different avitar (take note goldcoins79), If you leave it all blank, just put in a random name or give a website, you will get the same avitar.

          • April 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM

            THANKYOU! MYTH BUSTED BY MOMA! Leaving it blank generates the generic avitar. Oh my god that was bugging me. It’s all about the email address. Now we can get back to the show!

            As a side note, about technology – I would have thought that seeing as though my iPhone is slaved to my email address it would have picked me up. I haven’t physically put in my email address into my phone.

            Thanks Moma, I’m not crazy!!

      • elemcee
        April 15, 2013 at 6:17 PM

        Yes Mom, let’s not allow things to devolve. We get along too well here. Before you leave we must discuss (again) in depth how beautiful are the Guidice and Gorga children!? And how cute do Teresa and Melissa dress them?

        • April 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

          This is why I love this site!

    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 6:31 PM

      Yea well it’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt @Lucky

      Yea, it’s not that serious, but this stuff happens on blogs all the time. I’m actually surprised it hasn’t happened more often on this blog, but then again it’s a small blog, with not that much traffic.
      In my opinion some people just like to look for headaches that are not there. Make more out of things that are not a big deal, and like to school people on what they should and should not post.

      • Anonymous
        April 15, 2013 at 9:04 PM

        For a minute there I thought we all needed to go to a physical therapist lol sorry couldn’t resist ;).

        Lily M.

  67. April 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM


  68. love4peace
    April 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    I’ll give you all something to laugh at, i have a skillet stove top to oven. Using it tonight for dinner. Forgot it was hot, grabbed it ouch. So instead of eating my dinner i’m holding a bag of peas, posting. the silly stuff i do

    • April 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      Oh my goodness! I hate when I do that. Take care of that hand.

    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM

      Awww @ love


      • love4peace
        April 15, 2013 at 7:06 PM

        at 42 i called my mom, so i feel better lol

  69. April 15, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    My thoughts and prayers with Boston and those affected by this tragedy.

    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 6:25 PM

      I’m making the sign of the cross @ mz.

    • love4peace
      April 15, 2013 at 6:25 PM

      mine too, this is so sad

    • April 15, 2013 at 6:31 PM

      What has happened? I’m really hoping it’s not another shooting!

      • April 15, 2013 at 6:46 PM

        Not a shooting this time, bombs went off at the Boston marathon. 2 dead so far and 50+ injured. The info coming out is sketchy and a lot of speculation. No one has taken credit so far. Phillie, Baltimore, NYC and DC are on heightened alert. Crazy.

  70. April 15, 2013 at 6:36 PM
    • Aint Pittypat
      April 15, 2013 at 7:12 PM

      Very sad …. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims , their families, the runners and those viewing the race. I am so amazed when I see the video and those folks who bravely rush for ward into what looks like the jaws of hell to help.anyone they can, save anyone they can. My prayers to the helpers and also to the beautiful city of Boston.

  71. holy cannoli
    April 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Bombs went off at the finish line at the B.M. Terrible!!

  72. April 15, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Unbelievable! How incredibly tragic and frightening!

  73. April 15, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Yes and makes you put things in perspective including the pettiness of RHONJ

  74. Detroitrockcity
    April 15, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Omg, did you all see what happened in Boston!! !!!!Now this is stuff we should be worried about!! 2 bombs went off at the finish line, one bomb was at the JFK librery, they found 2 more bombs that didnt go off!! We are on high alert!! Stay away from crowds, stay at home! 911 ALL OVER!! OMG!we know people that are there! They are saying something about about it was cell phones used to set off the bombs! Hope you all are safe, Im saying my prayers!!

    • holy cannoli
      April 15, 2013 at 7:06 PM

      Yes, we have been talking about it ^^^^

  75. love4peace
    April 15, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    the sandy hook families were there. i pray they are all okay. this makes me sick. i want a loving safe world.

    • elemcee
      April 15, 2013 at 7:45 PM

      Were they really there? I mean that is unbelievable. How much are those families supposed to do through? I just can’t.

      • love4peace
        April 15, 2013 at 7:56 PM

        i read a couple of places that said they had a front row spot to honor their loved ones. i agree how much more for these families. heart breaking

  76. love4peace
    • love4peace
      April 15, 2013 at 7:58 PM

      I’m no expert, but if the dogs were there why didn’t they find the bombs. drill or not. this is the only place i seen this. has any one else seen this. And how does the drills work ?

  77. Meri
    April 15, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Wow, just got home from work and read all of the above comments after hearing about the Boston Marathon. Not a good day. Love you all, love this site, let’s keep the peace and love! Pray for all those affected in Boston!

  78. Princess Vodka
    April 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    When I last heard, 12 out of our city’s 13 runners were confirmed safe, thankfully. What a mess. I don’t understand why things like this have to happen!

    Sackem, wow…sounds like a rough day for you! I would just chalk it all up to someone having a bad day and misunderstanding. Haydaki, I missed where you were attacked so I can’t comment on that. I don’t believe Sackem is anyone other than who she says she is. As someone stated above (sorry, I don’t remember who), it really doesn’t matter anyway. I think everyone should make nice and move on and continue contributing as before as I really enjoy hearing everyone’s opinions!!!

    Now, can anyone explain what Ashlee’s tweet about Teresa was about? Or I guess I could go follow the link (if there was one…I’m so tired and out of it today!!!).

  79. Princess Vodka
    April 16, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Ahh…think I have it now. Teresa was talking about the Rumor Fix article on how she’s not trying to do anything to Melissa, tweeted that is why she loves Rumor Fix, then Ashlee tweeted that Rumor Fix doesn’t make it true. Duh…I’m really out of it today!!!

  80. Grandbeth
    April 22, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    If the Lauritas lied to Judge Peck about the bankruptcy case and also withheld the computers for Signature Apparell company, wouldn`t this judge look at past lies and shady dealings when deciding who to believe in the assualt case against Johnny Karagiorgis? or do they look at past and pending cases against them?

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