RHONJ Former Producer Reveals Details About Dina Manzo, the Gorgas, the Christening, Editing, and the Mystery Phone Call

September 23, 2012

Fame-Whorgas received a partial transcript of an interview conducted with a former post production supervisor for the RHONJ. The source is editing the transcript down to pull the references to the RHONJ. Apparently, there is much to sort through since the interview was about the reality of reality television, but not just the RHONJ. I cannot disclose the names of the interviewer or interviewee; however, I can say that I received this directly from the interviewer: this person, the one who conducted the interview, is the cousin of the former post production supervisor.

UPDATE 9/23/2012 at 9:18 PM EST: My source just saw that people are doubting the legitimacy of the interview, so has given me permission to post the following:

“I was asked by my country’s main news website to write a piece on the reality of reality television. My cousin worked on RHONJ, so I asked for an interview. The interview was only given because RHONJ does not screen in my country, and I promised anonymity. We also don’t have any BRAVO shows on television here. I called my cousin in Washington and spoke for 20 minutes before realizing I would have to watch the RHONJ to understand what was going on and who was who. So I went online and watched every episode and called back a few weeks later. The second interview (which was recorded) was an hour and a half and mentioned numerous shows from TLC and Oxygen, but I have edited it down to the relevant parts, mainly due to privacy for my cousin.”

The following is the second installment (there is more to come; I’m waiting for the source to sort through the transcript):

On Dina Manzo

Q: “In season 2 you had a change of cast with Dina Manzo leaving; did she really leave because of Danielle?”

A: “There were legal issues around the filming of Dina’s daughter, and Dina and Danielle had off screen legal issues. Dina threatened to quit the show unless Danielle’s contract for season 2 was shortened; she basically told the producers it was her family on the show or Danielle, but the others didn’t back her, so she quit the show.”

Q: “What about Teresa? Did Teresa threaten to walk too?”

A: “No, none of the other wives did; that is why Dina is so angry at her family; I guess she feels like they chose the show over her.”

Q: “Well they did, so why is she speaking to Teresa then and not the others?”

A: “The others were her family.”

On Editing This Season

Q: “What is going on with the editing for this season?

A: “Can you elaborate?”

Q: “Well, Melissa saying she was babysitting the Giudice girls so that Teresa could go to the Fabellini launch, and it was all lies because…”

A: “I get what you mean. Listen, it was a real learning curve for everyone on season 4; we screwed up by filming season 4 while season 3 was screening. We went into shooting season 4 right away because we were seeing the Giudice and Gorga relationship on the mend and that was where we wanted our story to end; it was the perfect conclusion to all of the drama at the christening.

Q: “Well, what happened?”

A: “The ladies would be watching an episode of season 3, then have to go and film for season 4; it made things terribly hard for everyone because they couldn’t mention what they were angry about directly, so they would play around with their words. That’s when things got confusing and the editors had to play around with the storylines just to get them to make sense. The best example of this is the confrontation scene with Jacqueline, Teresa and Caroline: it had nothing to do with magazine covers, Danielle on twitter, or lies. It was about the episode [from season 3] that had just screened. But we had to edit it down to make sense to the audience. You have to remember, the television audience is much larger than those talking about the shows on blogs and twitter, so we cater to them first; it’s an entertainment television show first, is what I’m saying.

On the Gorgas

Q: “So tell me about the casting of the Gorga family? Did they really send in an audition tape saying they would take down Teresa, mafia style?”

A: “They auditioned, as does everyone. Look, it’s not like just because she is Teresa’s sister-in-law we instantly cast her because we had heard of bad blood between them. Teresa’s brother and Melissa were filmed for a short period and that was edited into a small compilation to see if they were interesting enough to be on television. This happens on every single show. Melissa does say that they will take down Teresa in the video, but in a playful manner. I’m also sure it’s been leaked onto the net, so it wouldn’t be hard to find.”

Q: “What can you tell me about the christening episode that introduces the Gorgas?”

A: “Well, I can say I was actually there that day. It was our first full day filming with a large team; we had been filming previous to that, but they were establishing shots. It was much worse than what was shown: the extended family didn’t want anything on camera, so what you don’t see is family members getting violent with the crew and grabbing their cameras and ripping microphone packs off and throwing them across the room. It was chaos.”

Q: “Why did Joe Gorga react the way he did? He was crazy.”

A: “I’ll just say, first day shooting nerves can make some drink and others take….I’ll leave it at that.”

On the Phone Call Between Joe Giudice and the Mystery Caller

Q: “Was Joe Giudice talking to a woman on the phone in Napa; did he forget to turn off his mic?”

A: “The call was 100% innocent. He called Teresa a c*** because he didn’t want to be there filming, and was taking it out on her. He had a legal mess at home he needed to deal with but was contractually obligated to be there.”

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  1. September 23, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    whats going to happen to teresa,will she be back or do we boycott

    • September 23, 2012 at 9:23 PM

      I am with you…..

      • September 24, 2012 at 5:04 PM

        A point by point Response to Jacqueline’s blog entry, entitled “Why you are an immature naïve former stripper who gets it wrong every time:

        1. Plenty of people do not like Melissa. Are they all in on it too? Why is that you and Caroline can never substantiate a reason for bullying Teresa and stabbing her in the back other than “It’s all about the Cookbook/the cookbook has nothing to do with it” and those “tabloids” which you all congratulate Missy for doing an actual interview bashing Teresa as opposed to posing for a picture and printing quotes from the show. Why is there now more unspecified stuff the ever present cameras didn’t capture? Texts from unnamed sources like your friend Kim G who went to Court with Danielle to press charges against your daughter, but is who you run to for comfort? Do you really want people to believe Missy is not fake? What about wanting Joe to shout “Shame on you Teresa” and pretending all worried Joe showed up when it was she who called him and told him to come! What was Rickie doing there? And are to believe Joey really didn’t know where the event was taking place, when he and Richie were right next door?

        You know Teresa’s magazine deal was for covers and she was paid and that she was keeping that secret from Bravo for money/contractual reasons, but you just had to needle that one, over and over and over to try to screw her out of that money. You know her inconsistencies about the tabloids is because she is hiding the contract from Bravo, and you use that to imply she is lying to you about a very important and serious matter. You do this on camera to try to screw her. What a nice friend you are.

        You know Teresa can’t talk about active legal matters (you have personal experience there with your own bankruptcy and fraud cases) but you just want to put her on the spot to make it look like she is hiding something. How sweet you are.
        Forget about Missy telling Joe to say shame on Teresa. I say shame on you Jackie, you pathetic failure.

        2. You can be friends with Kim D, but Teresa can’t. You can be friends with Kim G who supported Danielle in pressing criminal charges against your daughter, but you fault Teresa for being friends with someone you too are friends with? What was this big set up? Whatever it was, it was a big fizzle that would have fizzled out with no one ever noticing but for 2 things: (1) Missy calling gorilla Joe to make a scene then pretending to be surprised he showed up and made a scene; and (2) you pouring gas on the fire telling Joe and Melissa that Teresa had just set them up to hurt them. Without those 2 elements all that happened was a bald guy said hello to Melissa, and she said hello back. Big Deal. Take it a step further. Teresa tells Melissa what the guy said. A rumor is reported to Missy. Why does Missy try to broadcast the rumor to all and have her monkey man come to “shame” his sister?

        Maybe Teresa thought you set her up because you did. You immediately went to Joe and Missy and said the non-event was a set up Teresa. You went to Joe and said, “get riled up Joe at Teresa, because she did this to you.” That was what she meant you set her up. When she found out you knew all about this “set up” in advance, it is no big leap for anyone to wonder you helped set up the whole thing, with Melissa, to make Teresa look bad. You definitely did set Teresa up to look as bad as possible that night, and Big Caroline didn’t even have to help you!

        Why are all of you, Angry Caroline and Angry Lauren so quick to jump and blame Teresa for the worst case nuclear war abominations from a non-event: A bald guy said Hi. And why were you waiving to the bald guy as he approached the table, then pointing to your microphone, indicating you have to watch what you say because you are mic’ed?

        You were furious that Teresa tweeted Danielle. But Melissa feeding rumors and lies to Danielle about Teresa – leaking The Giudice money problems – all that is fine and dandy? It is fine and dandy the Melissa and Joe hate or hated Teresa but she can have no negative feelings? Wasn’t it Caroline who set your friend Danielle up? You remember her, your friend all through that set up until you threw her over because Caroline said, “Boom Boom – you no friend her no more. Boom Boom!”

        Notice how Caroline always talks like you are some crazy person? Oh, I don’t think Jackie realizes that… Oh poor Jackie, she can’t understand that… Dear Jackie, she doesn’t know whats good for her, blah blah blah! I hope Jackie doesn’t hurt herself… I’m worried Jackie will find out….”

        Teresa inside the fashion show was before she went outside for the drama show. And if it was after the drama, who cares? Does she have to be like you and cry in your drink? She was just attacked again, and probably thinking, that’s it, I’m done with Jacqueline. She saw you through you that night and you did not like it.

        Joe Gorga is a cruel animal to his sister. Missy is a deceitful parasite. Good riddance.

        Again, you and Kim G, who advised Danielle to press criminal charges against your daughter and went to court with Danielle to press criminal charges against your daughter.

        Kim G who hangs out with people suing Teresa and was gunning to set up and embarrass Teresa at Missy’s Christmas party. That was okay for Missy to invite those jokers, and its okay for you to be friends with Kim G who was setting up Teresa, but Teresa is a monster for being friends with your other friend, Kim D.

        Maybe Teresa doesn’t believe Kim D set anyone up, as there was no set up. There was no drama until you and Missy put yourselves into gear.

        3. Teresa did not do anything to anyone to feel horrible about. She did try to calm her brotherdown. She did try to sympathize with Melissa. She didn’t leave with them because Missy was so happy telling Joe to yell “Shame on you Teresa” She didn’t leave with them because you had just told Joe and Melissa this was all an evil scheme of Teresa’s. Again, what was so terrible that happened? A bald man said hi to Missy. The gorgas and you made this non-eventful dud of a “set up”.

        Maybe Teresa is tired of the drama. Tired of the nonsense. Tired of being setup and blamed for everything. Maybe she realized you and her were over forever. She realized she and Caroline were over. She realized she was right about Kathy and Missy coming on the show to take her down – just like they promised Bravo they would – and maybe Teresa thought, “F” them. They are not my friends. I don’t need that in my life.

        And you Jackie are nasty. You really punch below the belt in your blogs, tweets and any chance you get to say anything about Teresa, you have to go that extra mile to really denigrate her and pour the hate on, commenting not on what she allegedly did, but on her marriage, her family, her heart, her looks. You are an ugly on the inside immature child.
        If you don’t want drama, don’t seek it out. Don’t cultivate. If a drama hot potato drops in your lap, don’t run over to Joe and Melissa and give it to them to fuel bigger drama, just drop it and walk away.

        Afain, in the words of Missy the Stripper, Shame on you Jacqueline, another stripper.

        4. Kim D and apparently everyone else in the world can do horrible hateful things and everything is cool just as long as you own up to your “mischievous ways and take accountability for her actions, right or wrong.”

        You respect Kim D for setting Melissa up, because she just was not playing nice when angered. What did Kim D have to be angry about? What did Gorilla Joe and Missy do to her that got her so angry?

        But Teresa is scum because she denies being involved in a bald guy saying hi to Missy? Teresa is evil because some secret source texted you something?

        Grow up you immature child.

        5. You hate Teresa because she won’t admit to things you think she did. Why would she admit anything to you? You will just tweet it or blog it.

        Maybe Teresa doesn’t confide in you because you can’t keep anything confidential.

        You are a blabbermouth. If you are not spilling confidences to everyone, you are spilling confidences to the wrong person, or you are having a temper tantrum and tweeting it to the world. I wouldn’t confide in a chatty immature 12 year old, and I wouldn’t confide in you.

        Maybe Teresa knows and has always known you can’t be trusted, and/or that you are not mature enough to handle some things.

        You chose not to get involved in her family! Are you joking? Not only are you and Caroline front and center in all the Gorga-Giudice family drama, you two are stirring it up, adding spice to it, and turning up the heat to boil the drama. You walked up to Joe Gorga and told him Teresa had set up Missy and tried to hurt her. You are deranged. And drunk.
        You like to fake it to make it, whatever that means, but hate not only that Teresa is “fake” but so is her marriage and her boobs. Class act Jackie. Keep slugging below the belt.

        6. Why is none of this sabotage all season long caught on film, or ever disgussed in specificity. Why can’t you say:Teresa did x, y and Z to hurt me. She then did A, B, and C to hurt the Manzos. And she did E,F,G to Melissa and Joe. Evaluate these facts and draw your own conclusions.

        Instead, all you ever say is, “Teresa was doing things all season”. What was she doing? What was she saying?

        Did you ever think she was blowing off steam? I have a big family. We fight. We say bad things about each other. But we love each other. We like each other. We are friends. But are close and we do like each other, because we can say to each other – behind someones back – sibling #2 is such a &$#! I want to kill them! Big stupid moron, I hated Sibling #2 since grade school, and I refuse to talk to them ever again. Then, an hour later, a day, a week, Sibling #2 is my best friend ever in the world there ever was. But I blew off steam. I once told my sister, at a wedding, that I hated her and had hated her my entire life. Literally 10 minutes later we were off laughing together.

        When you are with siblings, sometimes it gets immature.

        Immaturity is something you know about, because you are an immature child.

        7. Bravo arranged for all you girls to go to that salon. The better question is, why didn’t the rest of you girls go to the salon? Were you setting Teresa up?
        How did Teresa set up Missy if, to quote you “Even if she never knew all of the details of how it would go down…”
        How do you know this secret source of yours is telling the truth?

        8. Ugh! Does this ever end. The Bald guy said hello. Earlier he spread a rumor, something that happens a lot in your town about all of you. Big woop dee do.

        9. I thought you and Missy were strippers. How is Teresa or anyone able to quash rumors about you two? The bald guy said hello. Again, it was you & Melissa & Gorilla Joe that caused the scene.

        10. Had Teresa stayed and listened to the rumors – that would have been better? Wy doesTeresa have to be mad at Kim D when you don’t?

        11. Last time Teresa repeated a rumor about Missy, Gorilla Joe and Missy spun it that Teresa was saying as her belief what the rumor was. Teresa never said Missy will leave for richer man, she told Joe she heard that rumor, but they turned it onto a quote from Teresa, as did Caroline. She got burned trying to give a warning before, and the warning was not appreciated, so she kept quiet, like she was told she should have been before.
        Again, the bald guy said hello. He didn’t try to say anything else.

        12. Why didn’t you chase the guy out? You were warned. Why didthe guy have to be stopped from saying “hello, remember me”

        13. Yet another secret source told you a secret you can’t reveal, but we are to trust you and hate Tersa. Okay.

        14. Where was your husband, who told Joe Giudice he met you while you were stripping in Las Vegas?

        15. Pete was proud Teresa handled herself with class reacting to being stabbed in the back by you, her brother, and that viper Missy. Pete is her family too.

        16. The bald guy is liar not to be believed that Missy was a stripper, despite having worked with her at a strip bar, but he is truthful and credible when he says Theresa wanted him to set Missy up. IF MISSY WAS NOT A STRIPPER, WHAT IS THE SET UP?

        Who are the other Teresa is just as guilty as?

        BOTTOM LINE –

        Gorgas came on TV to destroy Teresa.

        You want us to believe it took Teresa two seasons to cook up a plot to expose Missy as unlikeable, and she came up with was the day of the fashion show to get a bald guy to say hello?

        If you want to know about me, read this: I am the King of France and I have magical powers. I am 75 feet tall, and I live in a castle made out of unicorn horns. This is all true as I have written this down here for you to read, just as Jackie has written down on her site how she met Chris, who told Joe Giudice he met Jackie when she was a stripper in vegas.

        • September 24, 2012 at 9:39 PM

          BEST POST EVER!

        • Anonymous
          September 24, 2012 at 10:31 PM

          OMG! Well said. You hit the nail on the head.

        • September 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM

          You are spot on!! Excellent post!

        • redmoon
          September 25, 2012 at 3:05 AM

          LOVED.IT.
          “a bald guy said hello”
          “Immaturity is something you know about, because you are an immature child.”
          “Why you are an immature naïve former stripper who gets it wrong every time:”

          -and ever other word you wrote as well-right on!

        • Dolores
          September 25, 2012 at 7:55 AM

          YES. You said it all.FANTASTIC POST!
          Bravo won’t let that post on their site I bet. Cretins.

        • ThatOtherChick
          September 25, 2012 at 10:19 AM

          *slow clap*

          This is the best post ever. You nailed everything that was wrong with Jacqueline’s blog. Everything.

          Fame, I hope you include this post in your next blog!

        • Donna Young
          September 25, 2012 at 5:09 PM

          AWESOME post , I could not have said it better. Damn thanks you

        • ChiTownShark
          September 26, 2012 at 10:13 AM

          Excellent post! Thank you!

        • Bigg hayah long nailsss!
          September 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM

          EPIC.

        • Elaine DiS
          September 28, 2012 at 5:32 AM

          Thank you! I’ve been trying to say stuff like that on her blog all week, but of course Bravo won’t publish it!

        • October 6, 2012 at 8:01 PM

          You were spot on everything! I caught so much of Jac adding to the fire all night. And if Melissa had just brushed it off, instead of calling Joe, the whole thing would have blown up in Jac’s face. So much didn’t add up to Teresa setting M. up. Thanks for pointing it all out!

    • Sadie
      September 24, 2012 at 10:41 AM

      I don’t know about Teresa, but I just can’t see Jacqueline coming back. Did you see the “epilogue,” if you will, to her story last night? Plus, how she’s repeated numerous times this season that she’s “so over it”?

      Unless they really milk the fact that she has an autistic child, which is totally possible since this is Bravo that we’re talking about, I really don’t think Jacqueline could be asked back for season five. Her heart wasn’t in it this season, and audiences as well as Bravo had to have picked up on that.

      • ANGEL
        September 24, 2012 at 1:57 PM

        Om Anderson show Jac and Chris both said they would like to be back to put focus on autism. I guess Bravo will decide if they like that in the script.

        • Anonymous
          September 24, 2012 at 2:23 PM

          Her son needs structure, he does not need camera in his home. Stay home, take care of your son. Do what is best for the child.

          • September 27, 2012 at 9:56 PM

            I’m pretty sure they r very good parents & will take good care of their son,WOW!!

      • September 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM

        can’t get the video on bravo to work, why is caroline and wacko jacko both crying? its the one about next weeks renuion

  2. Llinda
    September 23, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Still think bravo is behind this info – sorry buy they know everyone reads this blog and u can bet The cast is freaken scared. This is just too conveniently timed and a very weak explanation the tweet to Tre from Cat the xproducer-bravo could pay anyone involved to ptovide documentation/scripts, etc.. They are in panic mode & the viewers have them STUCK! I am not feeling this one! Sorry!

    • Aint Pittypat
      September 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM

      ITA Linda.

    • September 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM

      UPDATE 9:18 PM EST: My source just saw that people are doubting the legitimacy of the interview, so has given me permission to post the following:

      “I was asked by my country’s main news website to write a piece on the reality of reality television. My cousin worked on RHONJ, so I asked for an interview. The interview was only given because RHONJ does not screen in my country, and I promised anonymity. We also don’t have any BRAVO shows on television here. I called my cousin in Washington and spoke for 20 minutes before realizing I would have to watch the RHONJ to understand what was going on and who was who. So I went online and watched every episode and called back a few weeks later. The second interview (which was recorded) was an hour and a half and mentioned numerous shows from TLC and Oxygen, but I have edited it down to the relevant parts, mainly due to privacy for my cousin.”

      The source noted that when the story is published on the news website, it will be linked to Fame-Whorgas.

      Just add the above to the article.

      • hoolie
        September 23, 2012 at 9:44 PM

        Fame- are all 7 parts of the interview coming out tonight….. putting shout outs of this interview on Allabouttrh….

        • September 23, 2012 at 9:51 PM

          I don’t think they are 7 parts. There were 7 pages but the interviewer is sorting through them to only give the parts relevant to RHONJ. I think there may be one more part coming, but not tonight. I don’t know for sure; this could be it.

          • hoolie
            September 23, 2012 at 9:53 PM

            i’ll let them know to keep eyes out and have linked your page.
            P.S. twitter is blowing up like crazy…. scottie thompson is sending VULGAR messages to Kim D…..her page (Kim D) is on FIRE
            Johnny’s is quiet and so is Jac’s right now…..i’m sure things will heat up over there too.

            Thanks Fame!

  3. Aint Pittypat
    September 23, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    Re: the christening …Please fill in the blank as to what was consumed other than alcohol .

    • heart of dixie
      September 23, 2012 at 11:19 PM

      Colombian goo-goo dust, most likely …

      • Joanna
        September 24, 2012 at 1:46 PM

        Joe Gorga has always looked Coked up. If you have seen people on drugs, you recognize the crazy eyes,delayed responses, unwarranted aggression and confusion.

        • ANGEL
          September 24, 2012 at 2:07 PM

          Joe Gorga is always the one accusing others of being drugged. So ofter that means you are the one doing them. He looks and acts roided up too. Also why preoccupation with sex, loosing natural ability due to roids so uses other drugs for sex.

          • citygirl2
            September 24, 2012 at 2:21 PM

            I wonder if Bravo does drug testing. They should.

          • September 24, 2012 at 6:00 PM

            is that why,poison joe always wears a hat to cover his balding head too? lol

        • RayRayH
          September 24, 2012 at 2:38 PM

          Yeah, he was also a sweaty mess and red faced at the table if I recall correctly. He was coked to the gills.

          • Joanna
            September 24, 2012 at 3:07 PM

            I really believe he has some kind of substance abuse problem, as well as Melissa. They are both a hot mess. A lot of people have made references to it and have not elaborated because they don’t want to hurt the kids. Pete Giudice, Kim D and that whole crowd are obviously the more establish, respected bunch. The Manzo/Jacqueline/Chris/Wakile/Gorga group comes off as shady,scamming fame seekers. If you had to sit at one of those tables who would you sit with? TeamTeresa 100% …oh and if Jacqueline was a stripper when she met Chris, it had to be at one of those OffTheStrip go-go bars that have guys with no teeth sitting at the slot machines.

      • Housewife Fan
        September 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM

        I believe that Joe is either juicing or taking something else…he is just scary!

  4. JerseyGirl
    September 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    I def think Kathy is gone, according to my roomie.

    I just had a VERY interesting conversation. I am working in NJ on a show, in my home town of Wyckoff, next to Franklin Lakes. The Real Housewives came up as a topic, and one of the women exclaimed, “I was on the show! For like a second. You see me reacting to the Danielle/Dina fight at Chakra for like, a second.”

    I asked her about it, and she said that part of the restaurant was roped off for a “private party” but– it was DEFINITELY partially staged! She said they filmed the fight TWICE! They had the first fight, took a break, and then came back and had the same fight again!!! Then they took clips from both fights and combined it.

    • Maru the Cat
      September 23, 2012 at 11:46 PM

      Really? They filmed that fight 2X? Bizarre.

  5. Citygirl2
    September 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    Well, Kathy is gone. One down and three more to go! Let Teresa get all new people to film with. Smart bright women.

  6. Llinda
    September 23, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    I am boycotting as long as this hate/gang mentality/exploiting substance abuse theme in their storylines. I van’t watch any of these losers except for Tre. Would rather read the blogs-can’t take Manzos, Gorgas, Lauritas, or Wakies another season….no interest and too fake and boring.

    • September 24, 2012 at 12:59 AM

      I feel the same way Linda

    • Joanna
      September 24, 2012 at 5:05 PM

      Melissa/BravoAndy/Caroline & Jax I have always thought are behaving like Hitler. I haven’t said it out loud till now but they seem to want to change the landscape to include people that think only like them. Today on Twitter I saw this quote and it re enforced what I was thinking:

      THE CHIRPING TWIT ?@Chirping__Twit
      “…Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew…Then they came for me, &there was no one left2speak 4me”

      • Disgusted
        September 24, 2012 at 11:33 PM

        Seriously?! You’re equating these ladies to Hitler? Shame on you.

    • Anonymous
      September 25, 2012 at 1:51 AM

      I agree with you. I couldn’t even watch the entire season once I realized it was another season of Tre bashing. What’s crazy is they never acknowledge any of the BS they are ALL filmed saying

  7. Dubbalicious
    September 23, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Linda, that was my first though as well. Just another thing that makes me go hmm. Interesting read though!

  8. September 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    I am most shocked-and happy-to hear that Bravo wanted the storyline to be T and Joe reconciling. At least I don’t feel that they are as evil as I thought!

  9. September 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    i’m still worried about tonights show and how teresa will be treated, also we have the reunion coming up too. teresa got to be like part of our family lol hate to see her get hurt anymore

    • redmoon
      September 24, 2012 at 3:20 AM

      I know me too. It’s so painfull to watch.

  10. Aint Pittypat
    September 23, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    Did I miss something. I didn’t see a whole lot of reconciliation going on Season 3. Did I miss something? JMO all I saw was Get Tre Season 3 &4. Melissa’s jealousy of Teresa practically jumps out of the screen. Don’t tell me Bravo did not exploit that simmering pot of angry stew that is Melissa . Melissa is all about the snarky comment directed at Teresa. The passive aggressive pat myself on the back is MeHo’s signature move. I cannot believe the Gorga’s did not come on the show to take down Teresa. Heck even Stevie Wonder can see that motivation. Cat is trying to cover her tracks. Please don’t pizz on me and tell me it’s raining. Maybe Oprah found out she hired an unethical producer?

    • Pv
      September 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

      I completely agree. This is nonsense with some truth sprinkled in so people can look back and say “that part is true so it must all be true”. Nice try.

    • September 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

      They did end the season (before they added the cookbook episode, out of sequence — it was supposed to be part of season 4 — at the end) with everyone supporting each other at the blk launch party. Joe Giudice even gave the sweet little toast to Melissa.

      • September 23, 2012 at 10:27 PM

        right. Remember Tre even said at the season 3 reunion that they weren’t supposed to be mad at each other because they were re-capping season 3, when things were on a good note and not season 4 where everything was horrible.
        What I don’t get is if Jac knew beforehand “someone” was gonna get set up, why didn’t it occur to her that maybe TERESA was getting set up…?

        • WindyCityWondering
          September 24, 2012 at 1:03 PM

          IMHO, Jac knew it was Teresa getting the big set up but she was racing around saying it was Melissa being set up by Teresa – kill two birds with one stone anyone?

          • Joanna
            September 24, 2012 at 1:54 PM

            I didn’t count how many times Jacqueline said “Set up” but she said it every chance she got, to anyone that was standing there until everyone started saying it on their own. Then she writes a long bullet point detailed Blog to try and convince the viewers.
            A LOT OF WORK for someone that wasn’t involved.

          • RayRayH
            September 24, 2012 at 2:36 PM

            I agree with you WindyCityWondering! I just wrote the same thing below!

      • September 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM

        did you notice they didn’t put teresa’s skinny iltalian book or her wine or hair products down or does that come next yr.also on andy,why didn’t they put caroline’s big blowup in ca,as number

  11. Anonymous
    September 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    Ha! That makes perfect sense for Dina!!!!!!

  12. September 23, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    1. On camera on September 27, 2011 at the PFS, she said she worked at a ‘bikini bar’ one week filling in for someone, and she hated it.
    2. In her blog on September 30, 2011, she said she worked there a couple of weeks while in college.
    3. On December 9, 2011, she released a ‘pay register’ showing she worked at Lookers as a ‘bartender’ for the full 2003 calendar year (she met Joe in October 2003 and married him in August 2004).
    3. On April 12, 2012, Melissa said Joe Gorga used to come see her when she was a bartender at Lookers Gentleman’s Club while in college (she graduated college in 2004, the same year she married Joe).

    Photos from Lookers’ Facebook Page:

    Melissa Gorga: Lookers’ Dancer Wearing the Cross in 2003, Gold-digger and Cheater?
    https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/melissa-gorga-lookers-dancer-wearing-the-cross-in-2003/

    • Housewife Fan
      September 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM

      She is full of crap!! I am sorry but tonight was going to prove something???? All it proved is that Melissa is a liar. She stirred it up into something bigger. I feel dupped by BRAVO.

    • heart of dixie
      September 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

      What is seen cannot be unseen. :O

    • Confused RHNJ viewer
      September 24, 2012 at 12:52 AM

      Don’t forget to add that tonight she said her cousin ran Lookers. That establishment is owned and rung by Penny Drossos’s cousins. Another lie.

    • September 24, 2012 at 6:41 AM

      Well Meho did say that lookers is a bikini bar…..LOL

  13. Sea Goddess - I've got a jar of dirt!
    September 23, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Watch Season 3 again and you’ll know why Teresa and Melissa aren’t buddies. I’m not saying right or wrong, but to be fair I started over. So here’s what I saw –

    Mel and her family were raised with more American traditions. Teresa & Joe were raised with Italian traditions. Joe & Melissa married and she didn’t do things the Italian way. Not wrong just different, but it caused problems. Melissa had Joe wrapped around her finger, but her being sexy and beautiful did nothing for his family; they wanted the cake not the icing, she needed to be more respectful like Teresa. Mel tried but always seemed to never quite be good enough until one day she quit trying. It seems Melissa and Joe argued a lot after being around his family. She wanted acceptance, they wanted substance and Joe wanted sex and the only person getting what they wanted was Joe.

    Now the experience was very different with Melissa’s family. Joe had something they didn’t, which was money. When Mel and Joe visited her family, she was comfortable and (maybe) they even looked up to her for landing Joe and everyone got along. Mel and Joe went home with their ego’s stroked, happy and without being judged or criticized. Mel being 10yrs younger didn’t hurt either – zero competition with sisters.

    Juicy, Teresa & Joe: Juicy grew up with Joe & Teresa and Juicy never had to fit in with the family, especially the parents. They had always been like family so no worries. Joe looked to Juicy as a cousin and they got along fine. Teresa grew up with Joe’s family and everyone there got along fine.

    Teresa never had to worry about fitting in with Melissa’s family that was Joe’s part. Teresa just needed to be Teresa just as Melissa’s sisters just needed to be Mel’s sisters. The meshing only involved Mel and Joe. Mel’s sisters might have truly cared for Teresa, admired Teresa and Juicy some because they were a little better off or just befriended them to use them for access to their extras, but they all accepted one another for who they were until it turned nasty with Mel and T. I think Lysa played the fence, either to keep enjoying the extras or she may have been able to see both sides.

    Now as strained as it was with Mel having to compete with Teresa, Teresa joins the RHONJ. This pain in Mel’s ass is now on TV and has written a cookbook. Teresa’s new found fame is great until Mel & Joe aren’t getting included. The other cast members are family and it’s only fair they get to be on TV too! One little problem though, Bravo does the editing not Teresa, she doesn’t control what they show or what they don’t. The footage of Joe & Mel with Teresa is there and Bravo shows clips every now and then, but only now that Mel is on the show. (Not on the show but it is a fact -Teresa did have something to hide from the audience, her precious brother was accused of Rape and had charges filed against him. I doubt she wanted this made public.)

    Melissa is filled with anger towards Teresa and blames her for all her issues with the Gorga family. Melissa goes to Danielle to take Teresa down and her husband Joe is a willing participant. Did you see any footage of Joe Gorga calling Mel out about speaking to Danielle? I didn’t! Oh wait, that’s season 4. Joe blames Juicy for all his problems with his father, but really Joe is absent or doesn’t come around much and Juicy actually likes hanging out with his father in law. Joe’s father is a straight shooter and doesn’t mince words, he calls Joe out and says “You only think about yourself” but Joe still blames it all on Juicy. Mel blames Teresa and Joe blames Juicy. As for the Marco sisters – they got what Mel & Joe didn’t – On TV and they’ll defend Mel & Joe to keep getting on TV.

    Melissa claims she wants family but really she doesn’t. Footage is shown at Christmas where Joe (at Teresa’s) says this feels like home, but when they leave and go to Kathy’s Mel says when we were at his family’s house it was like we (we meaning Mel) were amongst strangers, but when we got to Kathy’s it was like let your hair down, feed me some food and lets have Christmas. It is home to Joe but not Melissa. She didn’t want to be there, she wanted to be at Kathy’s because that’s where she’s comfortable – she didn’t care about Joe or his parents and family or her own crying kids – it was all about her and what she wanted. Teresa called out Mel saying you don’t dress sexy for family gatherings, cover yourself and be respectful, but sexy is all Mel has – zero substance.

    What’s the difference with Teresa and Mel now that they are on the show together, Mel can be Mel instead of the family person that’s expected from the Gorga’s. Teresa knows the Family Melissa and what’s she’s done or hasn’t done, but the TV Family Wanting Mel is a horse of a different color. Now Teresa has to work to play nice with TV Mel, but is still guarded over her family. TV Mel doesn’t really care about the Gorga Family, she knows Teresa will stay quiet (for her parent’s) and not out her and she takes advantage of it and uses it to make it all look like Teresa’s fault. TV Mel cries out family acceptance, Family Mel wants no part of it.

    Season 4 –

    Joe and Teresa go to therapy: Joe says “What happened with my sister is she became competitive with my wife, and evil, and saying nasty things. I feel that if I accepted her husband and all the things that he has done to me, she should have done the same. She attacked my wife like it was her worst enemy, which I never attacked her husband, I allowed him, I allowed him, to belittle me.”

    Let’s review – Joe says he allowed Joe Giudice to belittle him, and if I can accept her husband and all the things he’s done to me – she should have done the same. (????So when Melissa did it to Teresa????) Teresa attacked his wife like it was her worst enemy. I never attacked her husband. Is this not what he said? Where does he say or imply -Teresa for no reason what so ever – attacked my wife. He repeated I allowed him, I allowed him to belittle me – but Teresa did not do the same.

    Joe also says Teresa became competitive with Melissa, or should he have said, Mel became competitive with Teresa? I haven’t seen evidence as to why Teresa would be jealous of Mel. What did Mel have or do that was so great? Teresa wanted to maintain a relationship with her brother, but competitive, I don’t see it. Melissa needed to be like Teresa so she imitated Teresa. The sad part is Melissa is still imitating others, from Hi Lovers to Lady Gorga. Melissa can look, dress, and try to act like Teresa, but she’ll never have the family acceptance that Teresa does. Teresa and her parents, Juicy, his parents, and his siblings are all one big unit. Joe was a part of the unit until Melissa came into the picture. Many of the things Teresa is fighting for with Joe are not just for her but for her parents. Mel provides Joe with the one thing he desires most – Sex – and Teresa nor the family can compete with that and she knows this. She wants what she wants and uses sex to get it. To get into Joe’s head requires undoing a button and a zipper – period.

    You will notice at the Christening that Juicy’s family is there. His siblings and parents, they are the ones trying to squash the fighting and calm Joe while Melissa’s family and friends are in the midst of it – one of them even goes after Joe’s Dad (not knowing who his was – image that) and had to be called off. They aren’t choosing sides, they aren’t bashing Mel’s family – they are trying to stop the fighting. Mel’s sisters and brother-in-laws grab Joe telling him that they are his “real family” and take him to the bar for another drink. A little desperate if you ask me. If Mel’s family is so family oriented, why do they create such a separation within the family? They are all family to Mel and Joe’s kids, but it’s not about family to them – it’s about them. Joe chose sides also, he didn’t care about his family, if he did why not control himself at his son’s christening. There’s a time and a place but Joe created that scene, Drunk Joe and Joe alone.

    It’s funny that when confronted face to face by Juicy before the Napa trip, both Joe and Richie couldn’t deny that Juicy helped them get started. Juicy’s been trashed by them both for 2 seasons, but when confronted Joe says well you’re family isn’t that what family is supposed to do? I guess Juicy isn’t so bad after all, or he just helps them so he can knock them down. The competition isn’t only with Mel having to keep up with Teresa, Joe has to prove he’s better than Juicy – the bad part is just when they think they’ve done it – along comes RHONJ and they are back at square one at the fight is on – now they must get on the show. It takes 2 years but they’ve made it onto the show and the only way to win is to get Teresa and Joe kicked off.

    The Season 3 Reunion was filmed the day after Season 4 Posche Fashion Show. Again, Mel claims to be all about family but that’s not what we’ve seen. Mel sat there trying to be so shocked and innocent knowing S4 was in the bag. What she and the others didn’t count on was the support Teresa received for being the target because S4 hadn’t aired yet. She didn’t count on a web-site devoted to proving her lies and the nastiness of her sisters. The only real question is did she succeed? Will she get Teresa off the show?

    I’m not even half way through tonight’s show and OMG – Melissa is such a fraud.

    Maybe this is the wrong place to post this but I’m so sick of being blocked by Bravo and they’ve even edited my posts.

    Why?

    Caroline suck’s Joe Gorga’s ass because she said he reminds her of Christopher.

    • September 23, 2012 at 11:11 PM

      Thank you for posting your comment here. You said it all!

    • Bullie
      September 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM

      This should be Inscribed in gold and sent to Andy Cohen.

    • Housewife Fan
      September 24, 2012 at 1:01 AM

      Perfect place and perfect analysis!

    • September 24, 2012 at 2:07 AM

      WOW … this was perfectly stated, thank you so much for the time you put into it. You nailed it!

    • Anonymous
      September 24, 2012 at 2:12 AM

      bravo for ur comment,u said it all.

    • Jo browm
      September 24, 2012 at 1:13 PM

      What about RAPE charges ? Joe Gorga? Can you elaborate on that?

    • ANGEL
      September 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM

      Best, most reasonable background story yet

    • MP
      September 24, 2012 at 6:42 PM

      Thank you for taking the time to type this out!!

    • Melda
      September 24, 2012 at 7:12 PM

      omg bravo does that to me too!

    • Elaine DiS
      September 28, 2012 at 5:53 AM

      As an Italian daughter myself, I can clear up why Joe’s family didn’t take to Melissa from the beginning. She moved in with him before he married her. That’s like a cardinal sin to Italian moms! No matter what Melissa did in the future, no matter how domesticated she became, she’d always be the harlot who defiled their son!

      And yours was a great post – Bravo would always deny mine, too! I have one on Jacqueline’s blog that’s been “awaiting approval” for days… pretty soon that one will disappear, too!

    • Christine
      October 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM

      Enjoyed reading your post — much insight and helps to understand the family dynamics.

      Regarding Bravo blocking your posts — I still have comments that I posted over 24 hours ago on Caroline, Jacqueline, and Teresa’s blogs that have yet to be approved. So it’s not just me. Just wondering why. I did spell out f***ing when referring to the name Kathy called Teresa’s mother on the reunion part 1. The other thing that may have caused a red flag was my reference to the NJ Criminal Code Title 12 for Simple Assault which Rosie certainly committed when she threatened to kill Teresa. I’m wondering if a fan “flags” a comment if that keeps all comments from being posted? If that is the case, then fans can unfairly censor someone else’s comments.

  14. Anonymous
    September 23, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Ugh. Just bought my weekly Australian trash mag, Melissa Gorga doing an interview hoping Australian fans will love her new single.

    What’s up with you and Teresa?
    “I have done absolutely all I can do to fix the relationship and help her fix the issues she has with her brother [Joe].

    So you’ve reached out?
    “You will see that I have done everything possible and for some reason we keep getting back to this point. I think the finale of Season Four pretty much explains the whole reason why we’re not speaking now.”

    Then there’s a teaser dig about how she wouldn’t play up in a vineyard.
    Please note, this is about ep 3 in Australia so much for no press and playing fair with the viewers… Would hate to influence them right?????

  15. Victoria
    September 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Well done on the exclusive Fame, I knew a production assistant from season 2 and knew about the Dina thing but the rest is very juicy 🙂

  16. Victoria
    September 24, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    Dee Knowlton- you need to remember that these were excerpts from a spoken conversation, thats how people would talk ” well shes not family” it could have gone into more but like it says its abridged from a full transcript

  17. Melissa (not gorga)
    September 24, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    haha it wasn’t Dina answering the question it was a producer, producers are dumb so I believe it LOL

  18. Bullie
    September 24, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    Yes. You fell for the Kim Kardashian effect that Melissa is trying to push on us. Sorry to hear about that.

  19. September 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Have you watched the two-part finale?! How do you not realize Teresa was set up and the entire cast and crew decided to terrorize Teresa? It can’t get any clearer, with or without this blog. I mean, wow. I can’t possibly begin to understand how anyone would fault Teresa, after watching tonight’s show.
    Bravo hasn’t decided on a season five cast because they have to gauge viewer reaction to Melissa’s antics. Is America smart enough to see through transparent motives and bad acting? The tides are turning and I bet Melissa is off the show. I hope viewers are smart enough to see who the true RHONJ villains are…

    • September 24, 2012 at 9:37 PM

      I will not watch next season if melissa and the manzos are on the show.Caroline should have got the message when the phones did not light up until they mentioned the show.Then wowie she had plenty of calls.Caroline is an ugly jealous woman

  20. Housewife Fan
    September 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Are you one of Melissa’s sisters or Melissa herself?

  21. autumnleaves61
    September 24, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Fame: Melissa also claimed she worked for her “cousin” who “ran the place”. Verified w/Greeks that some of her relatives own Lookers, so it was not Chris K. who Melissa referred to. That only leaves a couple of ppl MG could mean.

    Does that mean her cousin falsified her paystubs, or should we trust them?

    If we trust them, then we accept she worked there a year-which means she could hardly have NOT recognized Angelo, since we know for a fact he worked there too. (I can’t remember if I mentioned I have the roster from 2003 Manager’s schedule. Angelo worked Thurs-Sat-Sun nights most weeks.)

    Nobody cares that Melissa was a dancer. It’s the coverup that matters-b/c she only has her lying word to stand on.

    • September 24, 2012 at 1:50 AM

      Thanks Autumn. Could you e-mail the roster to me?

      Here’s a keen observation from a SH commenter:

      Jacqueline tells everyone that Teresa was standing next to Angelo when he said he was going to set up Melissa. We all saw that isn’t what happened. Teresa finds out that Jacqueline is telling people that Teresa set up Melissa. I am really sick of hearing about Jacqueline’s “friend”. Everyone else’s name has been dragged through the mud, but Jacqueline is protecting this “friend.” Teresa outs Jacqueline as a former stripper. YES! In your face, Jacqueline! Some other girl at the Posche fashion show confirms that Melissa has was indeed a stripper.

      Danielle Staub Tweeted That Jacqueline Laurita Was a Stripper
      https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/chris-laurita-cheating-on-jacqueline-his-alleged-mistress-speaks-out-on-twitter/

      Melissa Gorga: Lookers’ Dancer Wearing the Cross in 2003, Gold-digger and Cheater?
      https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/melissa-gorga-lookers-dancer-wearing-the-cross-in-2003/

      • Rosalie Marie,
        September 24, 2012 at 11:55 AM

        Jacqueline couldn’t say the name because it was the Producer, Cat.

    • RayRayH
      September 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM

      OMG guys, this is like the 3rd comment I read about this. She said “My cousin runs the place.” So that most likely means management. I’m not backing her up, but I don’t get why that’s relevant ANYWAYS. She said a week, she said 8 months, obviously she’s lying.

    • autumnleaves61
      September 24, 2012 at 4:14 PM

      “verified w/Greeds that some of her [PENNY] relatives own Lookers, so it was not Chris K. who Melissa referred to.”

      To clarify, some of her=Penny’s relatives.

  22. September 24, 2012 at 1:59 AM

    JDLR ( just doesnt look right). So in tonight’s finale (filmed in 2011), Joe demanded that Caroline not attend PFS ever again, and this year’s PFS is at the Brownstone?! Something is definitely fishy.

    • Milania
      September 24, 2012 at 8:26 AM

      dunnwrightpr….Right after Joe demanded Caroline not attend PFS ever again, Then Lauren told her mom to go over to him, Did you hear Caroline tell him we came here for you??? (Right before she hugs him) Came to fashion show??? Huh?

      • Debbie
        September 24, 2012 at 6:48 PM

        I heard that comment too! Was wondering why Caroline would have come to the FS for Joe Gorga?? It’s not like he was walking the runway and she was there to support him…..

        • September 24, 2012 at 9:22 PM

          It’s all so strange – I feel like the Manzo’s are afraid to upset the Whorgas. I wonder what dirt Joe and Melissa have on Caroline, with Lauren’s comments about appeasing Joe during the PFS show, I’m led to believe there’s some type of blackmail going on. Whatever it is, it must be juicy!! Caroline doesn’t seem like the type to do something out of kindness; or to be supportive.

  23. September 24, 2012 at 5:29 AM

    Just attempted to read Jac’s blog… it hurt my eyes so I stopped. I honestly can’t bare the sight of that woman – child. I wonder if Bravo could make her disappear.

    • September 24, 2012 at 10:07 AM

      I am not reading Jac or Caroline blogs. I already know whats in them.

      • RayRayH
        September 24, 2012 at 2:21 PM

        LOL Caroline’s blog was about 20 words, if that.

  24. September 24, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    What caught my eye was they way Jac and Lauren was all about their phones. They were constantly texting and having their phones up to their face, they were waiting for something,. I believe Jac and Caroline was in on it. I do not know why Melissa can not see it, obviously she is not that smart.

    • Jo browm
      September 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM

      Their producer Cat, was the one texting them. She overheard this.

  25. Monique
    September 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    I just read on Johnny the Greek’s Twitter that Melissa wasn’t working at Lookers for one week she worked there for 8 months. Remember she said her cousin owned the place so she was helping him out by working there Johnny said that, that’s not true. He said that Lookers is owned by Greeks.

    • Monique
      September 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM

      @JohnnyTheGrk: Now I’ve heard the Big Lie:
      @melissagorga states Chris Kontos, owner of Lookers, is her cous.I don’t remember seeing you at family functions

      @JohnnyTheGrk: @GregsLooseHole Who’s cousin? LMFAO. Greeks own it.

      • Monique
        September 24, 2012 at 10:39 AM

        Also– All About TRH said they posted Melissa’s pay stubs and that she worked there for 8 months. A follower of All About TRH states this: @itsjenwbitches: @AllAboutTRH Hey Rox, the US Weekly article Mel said Joe was at Albie’s apartment during PSF. Tonight he tweets he was w his kids. go look

        • Monique
          September 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM

          Also a friend of John the Greek and Penny that was also at the PFS posted this 12 hours ago.

          @MRS_Mazzini: @katied7297 I was there. And he came 10 maybe 15 min with Richie after she hung up the phone. No way he got to Son Cubano in 10 min.

          This was definitely a set up!!!

        • RayRayH
          September 24, 2012 at 2:01 PM

          I guess he was at the apartment. The cast said a few times that they lived right up the street from the fashion show.

          • Monique
            September 24, 2012 at 4:10 PM

            Huh?! But that’s not what he said on his Twitter. Joe Gorga said on Twitter last night that he was with his kids when Melissa called him. Melissa said on US Weekly that when all that happened Joe was at Albie’s apartment.

          • Monique
            September 24, 2012 at 5:07 PM

            @joegorga: When my wife calls me it’s 10 pm I’m home watching my kids I pulled magic to get there

            • September 24, 2012 at 5:46 PM

              i thought the affair was held in nyc, albie and chris live in hoboken nj,thats not 15 min away,yes both richie and and poison joe were nuts last night, yelling kathy,mellissa as they were walking in

          • Monique
            September 24, 2012 at 8:02 PM

            I thought New York was the name of the place they were at. HAHA. I didn’t know New York, New York. LOL. It still shows that their both lying.

          • Shell6
            September 25, 2012 at 5:15 AM

            The event was held in West New York, which is a town in NJ just north of Hoboken. If Joe was at Albie’s in Hoboken he could totally get there in 10/15 minutes. If he was home with the kids, no way. Do these people not even remember the lies they tell?

      • RayRayH
        September 24, 2012 at 2:02 PM

        no – she said “My cousin runs the place.”

        • Monique
          September 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM

          Okay– runs or, owns shes still
          lying. She never had a cousin run the place. Before you start knit picking at what I said go and check out their Twitter’s.

  26. DramaLlama
    September 24, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Does anyone remember the twitter-fart Jac left either on the eve or morning after of Posche “strippergate” that she received couple txts by Tom Murro or Kim G about Joey Guidice’s night out with a woman at TGIF that night? I wonder the txts Jac received during the Posche Fashion Show were some pictures of supposed afffair Joey Guidice was having?

  27. DramaLlama
    September 24, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Also I find it funny that during that phone call Mel had with Joe where Joe said Melissa never even danced for him. Umm what? So what was that gyrating on the hotel ledge in Punta Canta all about then?

  28. Brynn
    September 24, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Anybody else disgusted by Mels interview with W.W.? Fame, I agree with how you said WW flip flops, but the stories and lies that Mel was putting out there seems like it brings it to a whole other level by making more things public true or untrue. its SAD. If she worked there for a week, how did she provide pay stubs for a whole year. She didnt really think about that one now! And Im sorry, but Jac on the preview for the reunion. The statement where she swears on her “” child. Im sorry I cant even write and stoop to that level. I saw your article on how that may be her story line for season 5 and if so, it still doesnt make it right that she says that. Bravo better not cover her ass on that because either way its just wrong. Im sorry for the rant, but as a mother Im offended that anyone could just blurt that out. How far will she go for attention?

    • Jeannie5233
      September 24, 2012 at 7:21 PM

      I agree with you Brynn about Jacqueline – she is a mother of an autistic child who needs all of her full attention and devotion. To even consider cameras filming around him is disgraceful. It is her responsibility – her duty – to protect him and shield him and give him the best opportunity to be able to see light at the end of his difficult journey. What a bunch of garbage to say “well, that would be my storyline because if it would help even one child” – she can find far more productive ways to contribute to the autistic community – which, in all fairness, she has by supporting and speaking at fundraisers and functions, but that is where it should stay. How is Nicholas going to feel as an adult about this – has she even considered that? Her job is to protect her child not to exploit him. When I saw that preview I almost jumped out of my chair at the TV I was soo angry.

      • Brynn
        September 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

        “How dare you? You’re disgusting. You’re scum.” Jacqueline. I think she should say this to herself when she sees how dumb it was of her to make that comment.

  29. Rosalie Marie,
    September 24, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Who cares, it’s over and frankly, the end was nonsense. Everyone blew the ‘exposed stripper’ story way out of proportion. Especially Jacqueline, Joe and Melissa Gorga.
    I’ll tell you what’s really on my mind. Is Bravo going to coninue this Giudice’ and Gorga drama for a third year? At the end, it is stated that Teresa and her brother Joe haven’t spoken since the Posche FAKshion Show.
    This story has been dragged out for two years now. Melissa and Kathy really need to go to clean the slate and start with a fresh face. If Melissa and Kathy return, even if only one of the two returns, that means Bravo wants to drag this out. Big Mistake If Bravo Thinks Viewers Really Want To Watch This Nonsense All Over Again And Again, AND Then Again!

    • Jo browm
      September 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM

      We don’t. Sick of watching fighting. That is not entertainment.

      • Rosalie Marie,
        September 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM

        Jo Brown, you are right. The fighting is too much. Did you see the preview for the start of Real Housewives of Miami? It showed a woman slapping another woman. Big Bravo Mistake Showing That Clip, believing viewers would tune into that. Too Much Fighting. All Bravo did was show us a fight and helped viewers nip that in the bud before we even start watching it. We knew it would be too much fighting and frankly, it turned us away from it. That’s the real reason the ratings are low. When I saw the woman physically attack another woman I said to myself, “Oh no, I’m not even going to bother with this show!”

  30. Peggy C
    September 24, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Good blog.

  31. Rosalie Marie,
    September 24, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    I will only watch season five if Danielle returns! lol

  32. Rosalie Marie,
    September 24, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Dee Knowlton, You are wrong. To say Famewhorgas irresponsibly writes whatever they/he/she wishes to write about is false. There is a lot of responsibility that goes into owning a blog and the writer does have to be cautious. For example, I gave a recipe for black water and I stand by those ingredients. I left a comment with the ingredients and wanted everyone to prepare the mix and drink it. The following day I had the comment removed for fear that someone could possibly get sick, even though I don’t think a person would but since I was asking people to consume a liquid, I was scared that Famewhorgas would be held accountable for my irresponsible comment. I asked Famewhorgas to remove it and she/he did. You don’t need to knock Famewhorga or any other blog owner. Another thing, don’t you make accusations YOU can’t back up. How do you know Famewhorgas makes up stories?
    Did you read a story you knew was not factual, if so, can you provide facts to back up your accusation? If you have a problem, explain why you have a problem and provide facts if necessary!

  33. September 24, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    This episode is the reason jaq came out about her son now. She outed him at the posh show. Wow I bet all of those scenes waiting for their cars were outakes. Jaq never thought that shit would air. I bet she crapped when she saw it recently and also knew she wasn’t going to be protected anymore by the producers. Also I saw jaq putting away her iPhone mic which means she was having a private phone call with someone as well as texts. They all act so smug they really believed producers had their backs hahahaha Karmas a bitch. That’s why they are even more pissed off now they really believed that they would get the great edit and tre would be gone.

  34. Confused RHNJ viewer
    September 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Anyone else notice from the reunion’s previews that Melissa looks to be changing her appearance to look like J-Lo?

    • redmoon
      September 24, 2012 at 2:02 PM

      yep. And she is so silly to pretend she didn’t want her husband to come when we saw and heard her saying -“maybe he wants to tell this guy where to go”…
      she is a lier. Her mess is not good for her singing career. Poor Joe Gorga, he can’t even see that, that woman would have him distroyed for her own pride.

  35. Brynn
    September 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Hey fame, i found an interview monica chacon gave shortly after her episode aired at the Christmas party. Last night, Mel stated they threw her out for Teresa. According to this interview a producer and Mel invited her. I’ll email it to you, if you dont already have it posted on the site.

    • RayRayH
      September 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      post it in the comments! I’m dying to see it

      • Brynn
        September 24, 2012 at 5:20 PM

        Here’s the link, it was too big to post on here; also here’s what they quoted her saying from the article.

        http://celebritymagnet.com/blog/2011/07/monica-chacon-tells-us-what-really-happens-live/

        “Kim G. did not invite me to Melissa’s party,” said Monica Chacon, who is outraged over having been set up for a public fallout. “I went as Kim’s guest after a producer of ‘The Real Housewives of New Jersey’ invited me to a charity event, supposedly with the consent of the hostess, Melissa Gorga.” I was also assured that Teresa would not be at the event since she and Melissa did not get along. Without getting into specifics which are irrelevant at this point, Bravo should be ashamed of themselves for setting someone up who did not sign up to be a part of the show or have a venue with which to defend myself. There are always three sides to every story. But as far I knew, I was simply going as a guest to a charity event. It is unbelievable how everything unfolded.”

        • September 24, 2012 at 6:06 PM

          Interesting, but Tom Murro isn’t exactly a credible source for RHONJ news IMO. He’s a close friend of Kim G’s so he has an agenda too. Just something to keep in mind while you’re reading his stuff….

          • Brynn
            September 24, 2012 at 8:45 PM

            Cammierari- Sorry didnt know it was his! :/

        • autumnleaves61
          September 24, 2012 at 7:23 PM

          According to KimG, Jacq showed up at her house the evening of the Reunion taping, and stayed until 3am.

          Quote: “Jacqueline Laurita skipped out on the reunion shoot she showed up at my house in tears, she wanted to see the proof that I was asked to show up at the fashion show, so I showed her the proof she needed. Jacqueline had a friend drop her off, I’m assuming because she didn’t want her husband or any of the Manzos to know she was at my house or that we were still friends.”

          Link: http://wyckoff.patch.com/articles/kim-g-spills-the-beans-on-rhonj-cast

          (The ppl who appear even in bit-parts, MUST sign airtight contracts, b/c NONE of them ever violate the confidentiality clause. They’d always want to come clean, but don’t. If ANY of them were legally able to, they’d all spill their guts for another 15-min worth of fame.)

          I speculate that Jac was extremely broken up by the set-up b/c she had such a big role in it-she went along with it in advance, helped stir trouble at the PFS, handed her phone around, told Joe & Teresa lies, etc. I think she had a nervous breakdown that night & could not face Teresa b/c she was afraid of being exposed. Then, b/c shes a nut-she easily convinced herself it wasnt her-it’s everybody else.

          • Natters
            September 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

            Hmm but why would Jax need to be dropped off when Kim G lives next door?

          • Brynn
            September 24, 2012 at 11:33 PM

            Natters- Probably to make it look like she was leaving so nobody would catch on.

  36. Maggs
    September 24, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Jac’s tweets:

    Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    I’m SO happy that the majority of you get it now! I’m happy the season is over! Now let’s get they the crazy reunion & put it behind us.

    Becky Medina Jackie Loyola Ashley H. da.queen D£STiiN¥ Ashley Simonetti Matthew Genera

    6:10 AM – 24 Sep 12 · Details
    3h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    There were NO producers that were fired from our show.Y r people saying that? 1 moved 2 CA 2work on another project AFTER season ended.

    3h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    I also NEVER texted a producer during that episode! Some people are REALLY reaching. It’s a friend that doesn’t want 2b exposed.

    11h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Jacqueline Laurita – The Real Housewives of New Jersey – The Grudge – Blog – Bravo TV Official Site http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/blogs/jacqueline-laurita/the-grudge … via @bravotv

    12h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 4 – Storytime w/ Jacqueline Laurita – Video – Bravo TV Official Site http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/videos/storytime-with-jacqueline-laurita … via @bravotv

    12h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    The Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 4 – Calling Out the Stripper – Video – Bravo TV Official Site http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/videos/calling-out-the-stripper … via @bravotv

    12h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    New Jersey Season 4 – You Won’t Want to Miss a Single Moment – Video – Bravo TV Official Site http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/videos/you-wont-want-to-miss-a-single-moment … via @bravotv

    13h Kathy Wakile Kathy Wakile ‏@KathyWakile

    My desserts debut with a #CannoliKit #DolcidellaDea #GoddessSweets on @QVC this #Holiday tentative airdate 12/15/12
    Retweeted by Jacqueline Laurita

    13h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Look how LOW T will go to blame shift! T is disgusting! She knows the truth! http://www.jacquelinelaurita.com/How%20I%20Met%20Chris.pdf

    13h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    WHAT??? Projecting!!!!

    13h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Why wouldn’t T try to leave with her brother like they left with T in Napa? Why wasn’t T upset that someone tried to expose her?

    13h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    People seem 2b angry with Kim D too.Why isn’t T?That’s her buddy.Wouldn’t she b upset with her right now instead of joining her for a drink?

    13h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Good Job??? Why is he congratulating her?

    13h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    If T was going to “handle it” why didn’t she “Handle it” earlier in the day or when she 1st saw him at the Fashion show?

    14h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    CLICK! I recognized the “stripper set up” as soon as Melissa said that…T wanted me to do that earlier when Melissa first joined the show.

    14h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Some of those texts were me flirting with Chris too. LOL

    14h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    This is when I started texting Melissa. I didn’t realize it had already gone down.

    14h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    HA!!! BUSTED!!!!

    14h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Heart beating out of guilt

    14h Jacqueline Laurita Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita

    Why is T bringing it up more instead of trying to squash it? Why didn’t she try to call Melissa earlier 2 warn her about the scene earlier?

  37. stacey
    September 24, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    I saw her on Wendy Williams. What a joke she is. I see right through her lies!PLease Bravo bring Melissa down!! All her lies on her magazines and now she is on a media blitz. She is so transparent!!

  38. Maggs
    September 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Wendy Williams ‏@WendyWilliams

    Today @melissagorga told her side of the story. Next week it’s @Teresa_Giudice ‘s turn. #WendyWilliams #RHofNJ
    Retweeted by Giudice Fan

  39. WindyCityWondering
    September 24, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    We the viewers got set up last night. Bravo made sure that each and every obnoxious liar was exposed. So the finale was about the Guidice/Gorga mess, the Manzo/Laurita clan were bit players and Kathy was relegated to a boring by stander role. Bravo gave Caroline two seasons to take Teresa down and she failed.

    • RayRayH
      September 24, 2012 at 1:53 PM

      Thank you! Love this comment!

  40. MellyMel
    September 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Melissa always claimed she had issues w/Tre & Jac and C say they did not know M or J prior to them comin on the show YET S2, Melissa was at the h. warming party & the christening. Go to 39:01 mark and you can see Melissa

  41. Jo browm
    September 24, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    Why does anybody have to take anybody down? These people were fun and entertaining when they are themselves.

  42. RayRayH
    September 24, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    Umm, what the HELL are all of you thinking? NOT ONE of you has mentioned what was , to me, the most telling thing of all. Melissa is a c*nt. Plain as day. But Teresa knew this was going to happen and just sat back and enjoyed it happening. Which is totally fine, considering what Melissa did to screw her over. But then when Teresa saw the whole thing was going to be turned onto her, then she started doing her usual running around and trying to push it onto Jacqueline. What I saw was Pete, Joe’s brother, hugging Teresa very drunkenly and telling her that “You did so good, you did so good, I’m proud of you.” Then Teresa IMMEDIATELY starts squealing at him to hush, and her friend standing right next to Pete points to HIS microphone, as if to say, remember, we have eyes and ears on us! Why has no one mentioned this?

    • DramaLlama
      September 24, 2012 at 5:34 PM

      Interesting point. I will have to re-watch and see if I can catch that.

      • MsCynlynn@cox.net
        September 24, 2012 at 11:33 PM

        It’s hard to say with the way the shows have been chopped up. This was filmed before her Fabellini launch party, he could’ve been talking about that.

  43. Denise
    September 24, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    I’d heard they kept filming season 4 because they were hoping to catch the Guidice legal battles on film. I’m more likely to believe that the believe they were hoping for a happy ending with the family.

  44. RayRayH
    September 24, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    I’m re-watching this episode. I think Teresa knew it was going to happen, and the crew and producers had to find of a way to flip it back onto Teresa from Melissa. I think the producers wanted Teresa to think she was going to finally get some justice, all the while they were really screwing Teresa. They took Teresa’s plan (Kim D.’s plan more likely; with a Bravo assist and Teresa merely knew about it) and said well, we can’t let this happen.

    I firmly believe Teresa knew about Angelo coming over to both the salon and the table – if it was my cousin, I would have stood up and told him to back the hell up off my table, because I would have assumed he was there for trouble. But T didn’t do that. She really thinks she did nothing wrong because she didn’t plan the set up or help with it, but she’s guilty too. Guilty by association.

    What she didn’t count on was the flip! Her face is very telling in the bathroom when Melissa announces she’s going to call her brother. She realized then that she was the target, not Melissa, and she realized that in order to help herself out in the viewers eyes, she was going to have to tell Angelo off on camera, but the crew had covered that avenue and Angelo was gone. All that was left was to watch T explode and weakly and unsatisfactorily try to defend herself. Kim D. had to know they were going to flip it onto T, because Caroline bought that dress there and it’s kind of the same thing as the Danielle situation – she doesn’t like Danielle or Kin D., but she’ll back them if Teresa gets hurt in the process.

    Honestly, I’m done with ALL of these lying fucks. I’m so sick of them all. Even Teresa. Tonight proved that she is not the saint she claims to be. It’s so ridiculous though, because no one would have blamed her for doing anything rude or wrong to Melissa, because Melissa richly deserved it! But she tried to cover up her actions to be perceived as something she wasn’t – that’s narcissism, folks!!! I can’t stand liars. If only she had just been straight with us, saying “I had my fill of her crap, and I wanted to see her suffer.” I would have applauded that, but she lied and tried to act like she didn’t have anything to do with it.

    SOOOO over this show. They’re all disgusting, instigating liars.

    • RayRayH
      September 24, 2012 at 2:23 PM

      Also, the Posche fashion show is at the brownstone – same thing as I said above about Caroline – if T get’s hurt, she’ll back that!

      • tot
        September 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM

        Disagree completely with you. Melissa is the one who’s having a very unusual/forced behave. And Teresa didn’t mention anything about “stripping past” or anything. She was just saying the bold guy told me that you were a dancer there. What’s the big deal?? Melissa is the one who twisted everything, that was accusing Teresa, forcing drama and I thought that it was very unnatural to call Joe Gorga to come WITH Richie too. She was trying to have a victim goodbye from the party just to look good.
        It’s unbelievable how some viewers don’t see Melissa’s sick and pathological mental illness. She is obsessed by Teresa’s fame, charisma and popularity. She contradicts herself in MANY occasions, plays the victim ALL the time.

        • RayRayH
          September 24, 2012 at 4:22 PM

          “It’s unbelievable how some viewers don’t see Melissa’s sick and pathological mental illness. She is obsessed by Teresa’s fame, charisma and popularity. She contradicts herself in MANY occasions, plays the victim ALL the time.”

          Whoa, whoa, whoa – if I saw Melissa on the street, I’d spit on her shoes. She is not a good person. And she was pushing the drama! I’m no fan of Melissa’s, but I do think Teresa knew about Angelo, and that she also thought that WAS GOING TO BE IT. Melissa totally jumped on that because I think she knew about it as well, but Teresa didn’t know that Melissa knew.

          LOL kinda confusing to read that … but Pete’s little hug and congrats to Teresa, and her squealing at him to shut up and then the friend pointing to Pete’s microphone … why is no one acknowledging that? You all jumped on Jac last week for pointing to her mic. I really think Melissa and the cast are sum, but I also want the truth to be told. Don’t be so for Teresa that you forget she’s human. As I also said, No one would blame her if she did anything to Melissa, because Melissa totally deserves it.

          • Monique
            September 24, 2012 at 4:26 PM

            She did not know about Angelo. Angelo was micced to say that she was in on it. His friends Johnny and Penny and even Angelo said Teresa is completely innocent. Cat set her up!

        • Monique
          September 24, 2012 at 4:23 PM

          Ray Ray! Have you not read any of the blogs or Tweets Fame has posted?! It was all a setup. Teresa played no part in it. Melissa was so guilty! Telling her husband what to say to Teresa and then she lies on Teresa saying that Teresa asked her if she was a stripper when she clearly did not. Teresa wanted to confront the guy but he left before she could. Quit being a bandwagoner! They all were guilty definitely Jacqueline. Teresa is innocent. It’s as clear as day.

    • Rosalie Marie,
      September 24, 2012 at 4:54 PM

      There is so much editing going on that it’s all out of place. Example, while everyone is fighting outside, Teresa is inside smiling and greeting people. That made no sense because Teresa was extremely upset that her brother was on his way. She would not be smiling. I think the scene that shows her inside smiling was done before the show. I think that scene was done when Teresa had just arrived and was greeting her friends. As far as Pete saying, “you did so good,” something tells me that to was edited to appear after hell broke loose when in fact it was when they first arrived. No, that scene of Teresa inside smiling and greeting everyone made no sense. You don’t greet people after the show. That’s what Teresa was doing. Greeting everyone, saying hello. We don’t know what Pete meant saying you did so good but something tells me it had nothing to do with the drama that would take place “Later!”

      That scene was heavily edited

      • Rosalie Marie,
        September 24, 2012 at 5:00 PM

        At first I started to question Teresa. I even started to think Cat was more on Teresa’s side but after watching the episode last night, I have no doubt that many scenes have been chopped and the timelines falsified. You don’t greet friends at the end of the night. Teresa was greeting people. I think Pete was praising Teresa for something that had nothing to do with any set-up. Cat clearly did a lot of editing to implicate Teresa and make Teresa appear guilty. I made the same comment last night believing maybe Teresa was involved but after watching this a second time with a clear mind, No Doubt Teresa Was The One Who Was SET UP!

    • September 24, 2012 at 6:27 PM

      all I know is, Teresa is the only cast member who has made sense all season-on the show and in her blogs. I agree that it was weird for Pete to say that to Tre, but…it’s possible that he thought Teresa WAS the person who set up Melissa. I’m sure that within Tre’s immediate family, Melissa has been discussed openly, and I’m sure Pete thinks that Melissa DOES deserve to be outed for her lies and treachery, and that Teresa should be the one to do it.
      I’m going to wait til I read Tre’s blog. My feeling is that:

      1) Kim D was in on the set up and was the one who got Teresa to the salon

      2) Angelo was told BY KIM D that Teresa was fine with shit going down about Melissa-he seemed a little surprised to be told by Tre that she didn’t want to hear what he had to say

      3) Teresa knew when she saw Angelo at the PFS that Bravo was looking for more drama. That’s why she took Melissa into the bathroom-to try and head it off. She was surprised when Melissa said that she KNEW Angelo-because that seemed to confirm HIS story of her working with him. Teresa was trying to squash the drama, while Melissa was trying to amp it up-accusing Teresa of believing Angelo, not her, and calling the midget to tell him to come-then PRETENDING that she didn’t want him to come

      4) Once they got back to the table, JAC AND CARO kept asking about it. Kim D came over to continue the drama-and Tre told her not to talk about it. Once again, Tre trying to squash any drama while other people try to amp it up

      5) I have to watch the episode again, but I swear there was another bald guy in a suit outside (not Johnny) who kept saying things to people to amp up the drama and friction when it seemed like it was going to fizzle out

      Like I said, I’m waiting for Tre’s blog. !

      • September 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM

        I agree with your points cammierari.

      • September 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

        6) Melissa kept saying she knew the “bald guy” but couldn’t place him..but in the bathroom while on the phone she tells JG it was some guy “Angelo” spreading the rumors. I’d have to go back and re-watch but I’m pretty sure his name wasn’t mentioned up until that point.

    • Pv
      September 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

      How could Teresa have told angelo to get lost at the table? How? If she did that, they all would have badgered her and probably gone to find him and ask him why she said that. Remember Teresa knows at this point they all hate her. Teresa did the only thing a reasonable, sensible person does in this situation…..she let him go, then she pulled Mel into the bathroom to warn her. Anything else would have looked fishy and given the others more fuel for their fire

  45. RayRayH
    September 24, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    I agree with you Dee Knowlton, it’s a disappointing answer. I would have thought a rift that big would have a more significant explanation behind it. But FameWhorgas is NOT a crap blog. I’m a writer, and her writing is good. It flows, and it’s interesting to read. She makes sure her facts are correct. At this point, who cares even if she DID print a speculative email from a fan? It’s all ENTERTAINMENT babydoll, so if you don’t like, don’t read. The rest of us will enjoy ourselves. I give FameWhrogas a pat on the back and blow her a big kiss! *MUAH*

    • RayRayH
      September 24, 2012 at 2:33 PM

      Also, I too am jealous of Melissa. I wished my singing scared cats too. They keep eating my garbage and it’s like, TOTALLY annoying.

  46. JerseyGirl
    September 24, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    I’m realllly over this show. I can’t believe Jac said “I swear on my autistic son!” like, you can just say, “I swear on my son” not my “AUTISTIC” son. Jesus. Also, after last night’s episode, I am pretty convinced Joe is on drugs, steroids or coke… he was terrifying last night and even Caroline/Lauren looked scared. Didn’t you see how Lauren kept saying “Go over to him and make sure he knows you’re on his side, go over to him” and everyone was trying to get him to calm down; even security was all over him.

  47. carla
    September 24, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    I think Teresa did plan a set up but it back fired on her.I think she intended to chew out Angelo after the bathroom scene but Angelo had already left. Did u see her reaction when kim d told he had left? She said “thanks a lot” to kim . I think Teresa’s intention was to show mel,her brother & the viewers how much she’s “trying” & how much she loves them by coming off as the hero but Kim d or the producers crashed her plan & tipped jac queline off & Kim d made sure he left the show before Teresa had her chance. Teresa should just say f*ck em,they having been screwing her for two seasons.

  48. sam
    September 24, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    To me, Teresa was the ONLY one having any genuine reaction to the entire thing. For what its worth, i think we have to admit that yeah, Teresa saw that guy at the salon and didnt call melissa to warn her. And yeah, she did take her into the bathroom and say on camera what he had said. But at the same time, Teresa was ambushed SEVERAL times this season. By Jac and Caro during their long patio conversation. By Caroline in Napa, during which time Melissa never stepped in and stood up for her. So maybe she was kind of putting together something was going down but wanted NO part of it. Which is a lot better than Melissa who promised to PERSONALLY take her down, if casted.

    • Natters
      September 24, 2012 at 10:55 PM

      And Teresa had no way of knowing this would be the season finale. In doing this there’s an inherent bias in editing to create as much drama as possible.

  49. Jayde
    September 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Any biasim, talk shit about melissas sisters, the film thats on internet to go find kathy, but everything giudices do is explained away, what about the vile words coming from their mouths, calling family nasty names,this is the biggest lie ever concoted by a sick, no life housewife that goes so far as to make this shit up becuz they believe so much that teresa is innocent even when angelo flat out says she was involved, oh let me guess that part is false but everything else he said is right, get a life, really the teresa mob will one day realize why the f*ck did i waste so much time defending someone who wouldnt defend me, becuz you wanna be right? Live life, this is your life? That is sad, real sad in heaven will you be proud of this?

  50. Viestepia80
    September 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    I would not blame Teresa even if she knew about the guy & Kim D and choose to ignore it. At this time last year the cast was filming and also watching episodes of season 3. Where Teresa had to relive the whole Melissa betrayal. Especially all the rumors being told behind Teresa’s back and the Christening. So for viewers passing judgement on Teresa and making the peace. Just place yourself in her shoes.

  51. September 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    I’m just now getting home and able to check comments waiting moderation. To all the new posters, thank you for commenting, and I’m sorry you had to wait so long to get your comments approved.

  52. September 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    That episode was such bullshit!

    All that has stuck in my head is Melissa calling Joe, asking him to come, inflaming the situation then being upset he came oh and her little aside in the car about telling him to yell shame on you to his sister out the window. What the hell was Jac & Caroline’s little twist about Teresa blaming the setup on Jac. That’s not what was said. Teresa was saying that possibly Jac had set Teresa up for that night. The Christmas party flashbacks, the selective editing. Just bogus.

    The thing that pisses me off the most… Bravo’s ending tags. Who gives a shit about Lauren, lap band and her unfortunately named business. Who gives a shit about Albie’s love life…. notice they mentioned nothing about BLK or the sauce surely that’s more pressing. No, everyone got nice little updates and what did Teresa get? A line about Joe’s impending trial WHICH WASN’T PART OF THE STORY!. Holy shit. Let’s make sure ALL the women have one last little Teresa bash, make sure the viewers are aware of that, set up the reunion. That was a whole episode of pathetic. Best make sure we illicit some sympathy for Jac at the end and I hate to say it but her little story about her son was timed. Bullshit it wasn’t. How’s that for tying up a story and building another.

    All I saw was Teresa feeling uncomfortable about the truth and trying to warn Melissa what was being said and Jac stirring the proverbial pot! They were all pushing it. None of the women liked Teresa, they had rejected her, why would she leave with them? Oh that’s right because she is a “coward” and Melissa gets to call her one, they get to discuss her outside while Bravo edits in images of Teresa saying hello to people. Ummm is that balanced? Her talking to Pete was after her little run in with Melissa, supposedly, asking who told her she set her up, enough to plant an idea in Joe’s mind but not enough to actually validate it. Joe Gorga, little big man waddling up with slights against Pete then embraces him I mean seriously who is doing the manipulating of Joe in this episode? Melissa!!! Whispers in her husbands ear and he writes off his sister without a second though. Sad. No one even attempted to hear her out, it was just attack.

    I love that FW supplied us with the Monica interview re Christmas party. Kind of puts that little dig in perspective.

    Did you like the front end with all the women giving Teresa a little smack to set the scene?

    I did like Joe Gorga’s reference to notches on the belt, that made me laugh, totally wrong analogy… to me that suggest another lay or getting fat… imbecile. Oh and that Kim D and Teresa are butt buddies… hope Andy Cohen caught that one. Surely he would understand that Teresa doesn’t have the anatomical hardware for that. These people are morons.

    Melissa jumped on to the the Teresa did this band wagon faster than you can say magazine cover. I’m surprised she didn’t get whiplash. She instigated that whole fallout along with Jac. Oh man seriously. So Melissa you worked there for a week while you were a teacher for a cousin but it was a year and you were in college studying to be a teacher. I just can’t, I can’t.

    Bullshit Bravo and bullshit Melissa, there was no emotion on her face… she was out for blood. If she was really pissed about the situation, there would have been more than that.

    I’m so disappointed in the whole shebang. There’s just so much wrong with it, I could write for days!

  53. stacey
    September 24, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    Why the hell does Bravo think we want to see Lauren… she is not a housewife!!!

    • Shar
      September 25, 2012 at 9:19 AM

      No house and not a wife…go figure. I guess Chuckie needed backup???

    • Rose Chimera
      September 25, 2012 at 5:03 PM

      I’m wondering that as well….why is Lauren all of a sudden in so many scenes? Including the reunion. Only thing I can conclude is Lauren needs to hold Caroline’s evil hand and take over yapping when Caroline has to inhale before her next diatribe.

      • September 25, 2012 at 5:56 PM

        lauren is a caroline jr now getting as nasty as her mother ,don’t lnow how al;bert could live with those two.vito better run while he can.

  54. Brynn
    September 24, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    Your welcome! I don’t have your email, but I posted the link in the comment box. Don’t know how credible the site is. It sounds like The Gorgas set up Tre at the Christmas party with Chacon to make themselves look good by throwing her out, kinda back fired on Mel last night if this article from 2011 is credible.

  55. angela
    September 25, 2012 at 1:53 AM

    so if it is true that the producers are admitting that theresa had nothing to do with the “set-up”; does every one finally believe that the whole show is a “set-up” (scripted reality), and that financially they can’t afford the backlash that is brewing??? People, none of it is REAL….they need you to keep watching. They really need the “fans” of the STAR: THERESA

  56. Tami V
    September 26, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    Well this is the first thing I have read that actually makes sense of it all. The editing,the drama, the set up, nothing added up. For the way they all reacted at the reunion last year, I have been expecting some huge horrible thing to happen. I personally thought the finale and fashion show were lame. It seemed like they were trying to hard to make drama. Apparently that’s what they were doing…trying to create it. I watch all of the housewives shows and I love watching them. But I don’t need made up drama. I actually enjoyed the shows where they get along and actually show us what life us like for them. I hope Bravo and Andy will stop trying to create drama. But thank you for posting this interview. This is the first thing I have read that doesn’t seem biased and trying to get me to side with someone. The truth actually made sense…amazing

  57. Anonymous
    September 27, 2012 at 4:43 AM

    Oh my god!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for posting this. Finally somebody with some senses!!! And see through clearly. It seems all they do for the past 2 seasons is talking shit about Theresa. I’m sure she is no angel either but the things those mean girls do and gang up on Theresa is really bad. All of them are trying to point fingers to Theresa but they fail to see that shit is coming out of their mouth all the time. They will find anything and everything to blame on Theresa. YOu know why??? because its makes them look like they are innocent. Please child!! Get over yourself from Jacq,Caroline, Mellisa and Kathy. Are you kiding me?? Please.. How did Caroline get that radio gig and advising people on their family and relationships???? Thats a lot of crap right there when she cant even have a relationship with her sister????? Her sister dont even like her and she has Jacq to be her puppet!! Thats a joke really.

  58. Confused RHNJ viewer
    September 27, 2012 at 5:29 AM

    FYI — Dina is denying this on twitter

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