Did Joe Giudice Get Caught Cheating on Teresa? (Updated 3/13/15)
On March 11, 2015 Joe Giudice told Us Weekly that he did not cheat on Teresa with a woman named Jamie Jackson, as claimed in an InTouch cover story (Teresa’s go-t0 tabloid) published the same week. The Giudices depend on their tabloid contacts for income, so expect to see more stories like this put out by her PR man and lawyer, James L. Leonard, Jr. Like the Kardashians, the Giudices need the tabloid coverage to maintain their relevance.
The following is the story from Us Weekly.
Both the Real Housewives of New Jersey hubby and Jackson debunk the story to Us, saying InTouch lied about supposed evidence of an alleged hotel tryst. The tabloid claimed that Giudice carried out the affair just four weeks before his wife was due to check into prison in early January for a 15-month prison sentence; Giudice, however, tells Us that it’s entirely false.
“No, I did not flirt with her. I did not make out with her, nothing happened between us,” the father of four tells Us. “Everything InTouch is saying that happened between us are lies.”
Jackson echoes Giudice, telling Us: “I definitely never slept with him… Nothing happened with me and Joe, I didn’t know him prior, nothing inappropriate happened at any time. We did not hook up, kiss, or anything more. I saw him at the two business meals and nothing more, it’s all made up bulls—.”
Giudice and Jackson tell Us they’ve only met on two separate occasions — the second time during a business dinner at Resorts Casino Hotel in Atlantic City. The swanky hotel is where InTouch has claimed they carried out their supposed tryst.
“Teresa knew that I was down there both times,” Giudice, 42, tells Us. “So it’s not like I went down there with her not knowing.” Meanwhile, incriminating photos were supposedly snapped of Giudice and Jackson during a group dinner.
“I’m not sure [what] juicy photos they could get, we were just sitting at a table with others at a business dinner,” Jackson tells Us.
Joe Giudice tells Us Weekly in an exclusive interview that InTouch’s cover story about his alleged affair with Jamie Jackson is fake; plus, Jackson goes on the record with Us, too.
Joe Giudice tells Us Weekly in an exclusive interview that InTouch’s cover story about his alleged affair with Jamie Jackson is fake; plus, Jackson goes on the record with Us, too.
InTouch reported that Giudice and Jackson disappeared together after the dinner for about “20 minutes” into a master suite, where she emerged “buttoning her blouse and crying hysterically.”
“This story doesn’t make any sense,” he says. InTouch also claimed to have a video of the couple making out at dinner. “I said ‘Really? I doubt it, but if you do then God bless you, I don’t know where you got it from.’ …Let’s get real here, if I’m going to make out with a girl, is it going to be in the middle of Carmine’s? No way.”
Both Giudice and Jackson were notified by InTouch that the story was being released, and the Bravo star denied it on the record.
“They said they’re putting the story out anyway,” he tells Us. “I guarantee you that nothing happened. They said they have a video of me in a bedroom? What are they talking about? They said I’ve been with this girl more than one time, it’s not true. I met this girl twice and nothing went on.”
He notes to Us that InTouch released a cover story last week of his wife and her time behind bars which featured a doctored photo. “The picture they used of Teresa isn’t even her!” Giudice tells Us. “I can clearly see that my wife’s head is pasted on that body that’s not hers. They couldn’t even use the real pictures or real facts.”
According to RadarOnline on January 2, 2014, Joe had been caught for the third time out with another woman. In late November 2013 Joe was spotted having lunch with a brunette woman in Secaucus, NJ, and in 2011 he was spotted at a TGIFriday’s with a woman who was not his wife.
As reunion 5 was airing, Jacqueline tweeted the following regarding the comments she made during reunion 4 about Juicy cheating with his secretary and the babysitter (she said in the reunion 5 footage that she was wrong to say it but didn’t expand on it):
Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita 6 Oct 2013
Last reunion, although brutally honest, I said things that were not my place to say! I was not going there again.
When asked by AllAboutTRH on October 10, 2012 if she ever told Jacqueline that Joe cheated on her, Teresa said:
“I never told Jacqueline any of that. If I had proof of Joe cheated on me, I wouldn’t be with him. I’m just not made that way. I know some people would stick with their husbands even if they did that but to each their own. It would be unfortunate but I would definitely not stay with Joe.”
When asked, “Was Joe Giudice talking to a woman on the phone in Napa; did he forget to turn off his mic?”, a former RHONJ post production supervisor, speaking to a cousin on September 17, 2012, responded: “The call was 100% innocent. He called Teresa a c*** because he didn’t want to be there filming and was taking it out on her. He had a legal mess at home he needed to deal with but was contractually obligated to be there.”
A magazine called me two weeks ago to ask me about my reaction to the new episode they just received. I hadn’t seen it, so I had no idea what they were talking about. Once I got a copy and watched it, I was sick. I felt like I’d been kicked in the stomach. It has not been a good couple of weeks. Of course I begged Bravo not to air it, but when you sign up for a TV show, you sign up to show everything, warts and all. The good and the bad. Kind of like that other promise: for better or for worse. Welcome to the ‘worse.’
My husband disrespecting me on camera happened a year ago, but I just found out about it, and I’m trying to process it. I seem to always be the last to find out things, huh? People’s pasts keep coming out and they admit their dirty deeds to me, like my own family contacting Danielle to try and “take me down,” but I only find out about it months or years later. They say they’re sorry, they’re not that person now, and what can I do? I forgive them. I forgave my brother and Melissa, and I can forgive Joe.
But I’m not stupid. It does make me wary, it does make it hard to trust the people I love. But that’s how it is in grown-up life. It’s not a fairy tale. Everyone I know has their own share of heartbreak. And to be honest, guys in Jersey aren’t the most refined in the world. I look around me and I see other guys treating their women the same as Joe treated me and worse. I don’t like it; I don’t think any woman does. It’s weird that we put up with it when we’re so strong and smart in so many other ways… But I’m sure it’s the same with guys in a lot of places. They’re different animals. They are animals. They think it’s funny to show everyone their buttholes. Women aren’t like this. We have our own kind of ugly that men don’t understand. But we have to work it out and live together, don’t we?
I don’t really want a guy that acts like a woman. I’d rather not have Joe talk to me like a perfect gentlemen and go to his mistress’ apartment every night either. So I guess you have to decide what you can take and what will break you. I’m pretty strong and I have to be: I’m the mom of four little girls.
The truth is Joe and I are happy together now. He’s a great dad and a great husband and we still really like each other. He’s not perfect, I’m not perfect, but you put up with each other’s faults for the good of the whole. Should I break up my family and leave him because he called me an ugly name a year ago? My pride wants to of course, but I don’t think that’s the right or responsible thing to do. People don’t stay married for decades without bumps in the road. So this is a pretty big bump, but I’m hanging on. Thank you all for hanging on with me!
– Teresa Giudice, August 20, 2012, For Better or for Worse
“For Teresa’s sake, I really hope that Joe was talking to Jake from State Farm, but it’s obvious to me he’s cheating.” [charmed1, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“Loved Joe’s switch to another language even though his phone partner had obviously understood English a few seconds beforehand. Obviously their signal for ‘no longer able to talk freely’.” [Jessie Q, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“Here’s another thing about Joe’s call that should tip off Teresa. It looked like it was about 6 or 7 PM when that call happened, which means it would have been 9 or 10 PM back in NJ. Does Tre really think that any legit business needed to be conducted that late? [TheBombDotCom, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“So why at the particular time did Teresa need to confront him about being on the phone? I think it’s because he walked away to have the conversation in private (and it could have been his body language and the look on his face while on the phone, which Teresa could see from the table). Joe seems like one of those assholes who has loud phone calls in public without giving a shit about what he’s talking about or what others hear. So him walking away for a good couple of minutes talking softly probably jumped out as a warning sign to Teresa. That whole display in the vineyard was truly pathetic and embarrassing.” [luckyroll3, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“Many marriages go through infidelities. If you chose to forgive him and give him a second chance, we support you. Just make sure if you stay, you find out for sure if he was cheating and not let him off the hook for that.” [CC1921, August 21, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog]
“As for Joe’s phone call… Please do not ignore the fact that he was not on a work related call…your fans are not stupid; and just because you don’t address it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…or that it will be forgotten. At least say ‘it’s a matter I have chosen to keep private’…but not addressing it at all makes you seem…dumb.” [MaaMaa, August 21, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog]
“Teresa…it was very clear, by the tone of your husband’s voice and the content, that he was talking to another woman in your presence. He is so disrespectful and I’m not sure why you put up with it. I also think you had an idea of what he was doing; that is why you followed him and then tried to force him to have sex with you. Now, you are trying to obfuscate the cheating by focusing on the name-calling. The name-calling is bad enough, but the cheating is worse.” [ceeacee, August 21, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog ]
“I’ll give her a pass on the phone – it’s their business and nobody else’s and they’re dealing with it privately – fair enough. Teresa and Juicy are working things out… protect your man, girl. I hope behind closed doors she ripped him a new one.”
“I suspect part of the conversation she had with Juicy behind closed doors included a very loud ‘you a-wipe – you just gave them ammunition to throw at me and our family. Nice going you ignorant douche’!!”
“Teresa and Joe are still together. They got past that very bad moment in their marriage.”
“I’m not going to comment on what came out on this episode regarding Joe Giudice, because I feel that it is such a sensitive matter to talk about, and I am sure it was very hurtful for Teresa and her family to see. Despite our fighting, my heart hurt for her. That is all I will say on that matter. As far as the sex they had in the vineyard, I think I understand more now why she chose such a time to make a scene. I was wrong thinking that it was entirely about her trying to take the spotlight away from Caroline. I think somewhere in her mind, she was marking her territory. In my opinion, she should have just peed on him, kicked up some dirt, and walked away.” [Jacqueline Laurita, August 21, 2012, Marking Territory]
For an Excellent Recap of Episode 16, Read ‘Whispers in the Grapevine: Teresa is no fool‘, Excerpt Below:
“One thing I hope she is not feeling is embarrassment or humiliation about how Juicy spoke about and to her. It’s not her fault. She cannot control whether he behaves like a gentleman. For the record, I do not believe Juicy is a bad man. I think he’s broken. He lost his way. He forgot the difference between what is right and what is wrong. And I strongly suspect that if he gets into alcohol recovery many of his problems would be resolved. After all many of them stemmed directly from drinking. Many more can be solved if he can just get the help he and his family need.” [Priscilla from Wascilla, August 20, 2012, Whispers in the Grapevine: Teresa is no fool]
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Was/Is Joe Giudice Cheating on Teresa?
Footage from season 4 episode 16, which aired August 19, 2012, shows Teresa Giudice seducing her husband in the vineyard (stills below) after the mysterious phone call where he verbally abuses her and claims he is talking to someone from work. Here’s a summary of what was shown in the episode: Joe is on the phone with what seems like another woman; Teresa, suspicious of him stepping away to make a call to ‘work’, goes over to investigate; as she is approaching, Joe says to the person on the other end of the call: “Here comes my bitch wife”; he also refers to her as a “c—“; Teresa, maybe trying to avoid going back to the table in this emotional and awkward moment (and not wanting the others to suspect anything is wrong), leads Joe to the vineyards where (perhaps playing to the cameras to lighten the mood and prove to the audience that all is good) she tries to seduce him, but he tells her: “I’m not doing it over here. I don’t like it over here”; and when she persists, he calls her a “f–king whore.”
After interrupting Joe’s mysterious phone call (knowing the camera crew was filming and her mic was on), Teresa led Joe into the vineyard to fool around; he said he didn’t want to; she kept insisting; he called her a ‘f—ing whore’. The others could see Teresa jumping up and wrapping her legs around Joe, and they could hear him cussing and saying he didn’t want to do it. Note that Teresa had suggested making out in the vineyards earlier, while the Gorgas and Giudices were stilling driving in the RV (and after Teresa’s vulgar remark, when Melissa took their picture, about her husband sticking his finger somewhere in her — her attempt, she said, to ‘make him smile’).
Since season 1, Teresa has been jumping on Joe and has allowed the crew to film them in bed in the morning as she attempts, in a playful way, to engage him, to which he is never receptive because it goes against his personality (he’s no nonsense, rough around the edges, very private, and hates the cameras but is allowing them into his life for Teresa). After Joey and Richie joined the show, Teresa’s sexual banter increased: the cock ring, Joe’s lubrication, hot dog breath, etc., as if she’s trying to keep up with their exploits. Joe Giudice doesn’t seem to appreciate public displays of affection, yet Teresa keeps trying to get him to respond. She needs to stop: some people are just not comfortable with PDA and don’t behave in a romantic manner.
“I’m trying to make some sense of this. Teresa and Juicy had to know that the camera was following them into the vineyard. Didn’t they? I remember seeing a still of Teresa with her legs wrapped around Juicy sometime either just before the season aired or when it was just beginning. So what they didn’t know was that Bravo had Juicy calling her all the other nasty names. Or that Bravo had the audio of his phone call before Tre showed up to question him.” [They probably did not realize that Bravo had a clear audio of the phone call or that they would make such a major deal of it.] – WestCoastFeed, August 16, 2012, Reality Tea
In Richie’s talking head interview about what he saw and heard in the vineyard, he made a nasty comment about the Giudice’s marriage:
“All I kept hearing is, ‘Come on, we can do it here, I’ll put my legs up.’ And I’m wondering to myself, ‘This guy doesn’t even want you in the bedroom, what makes you think he’s gonna wanna do you on gravel?”
In her Bravo blog for the episode, Kathy made excuses for Rich’s comment, as usual (he constantly hurls insults at Teresa behind her back). She also made excuses for teaming up with Caroline to stir up trouble for the just-rekindled (albeit lukewarm) friendship between Jacqueline and Teresa. Remember, just prior to Teresa’s toast that got Kathy and Caroline riled up further (Teresa didn’t mention Jacqueline in her toast, even though they just made up, yet Jacqueline wasn’t upset about being left out), Kathy and Caroline were trash talking Teresa and trying to redirect Jacqueline’s anger back onto Teresa. Here’s what Kathy wrote in her Bravo blog on August 20, 2012 (what the others say and do is harmless, according to them, and the swipes they take at Teresa are just ‘wisecracks’):
“When Joe Giudice stepped away for his phone call, none of us knew what was said or what had happened between him and Teresa until this week when we previewed our episode. In retrospect Rich’s comment, which was meant as a wisecrack, now may have been a little insensitive. Rich and I both feel badly about the situation. This all happened a year ago, and we sincerely hope that they are in a much better place.
“I want to address the little talk I had with Caroline and Jacqueline before our last dinner at the Lancaster Estate. If you’re wondering why I asked so many questions about what went on in their conversations with Teresa, I will tell you. We all spent a great deal of time on this trip trying to understand and sort out our relationships. Some relationships were on the mend and others were fractured. This was true for each and every one of us. Here we were, all together, trying to make a go of it, each in our own way. I felt that I needed to understand the dynamics of what was going on so that I could be supportive and compassionate to everyone. That’s just me, I’m a libra and I constantly try to find balance.
“This brings me to our last dinner. Sometimes I need to see things played back, because I want to be sure of what I heard or didn’t hear at that dinner. The fact that I was left out of my cousin’s toast after I had tried so hard with her was a disappointment at best. If you were there, you knew it was a deliberate snub. You could cut the tension with a knife. I was embarrassed, but I wasn’t going to let it ruin my evening or cause a scene that would ruin anyone else’s evening. Once again Teresa’s actions speak volumes. So at this point I would like to offer my own toast, “In Vino, Veritas (In Wine Is Truth).”
Teresa, in her August 20, 2012 Bravo blog, explained that she did not snub Kathy in the toast:
“Of course I didn’t mean to ‘snub’ Kathy in my toast! For goodness sake! I thanked our hosts, the birthday girl, and mentioned how glad I was that I was working things out with my brother. I have wonderful things I could have said about everyone at the table — how much I love Vito’s bear tattoo, how Lauren just warms my heart every time I see her happy little face — but that would be kind of ridiculous and long. I had patched things up with Kathy already at our lunch, but this trip was the start of fixing things with my brother and Melissa. If anything, Kathy should be happy for me and Joey. If Rosie was sitting at the table and they toasted each other after a rough patch, I’d be happy for her and not try and make it all about me… I’m sorry, but it just didn’t make sense to toast Kathy or Richie, because then I would have had to also toast Albie and Chris and Greg and Lauren and Vito and the people who owned the winery and the camera guys and my agent… I actually don’t even have an agent. Well I do have a literary agent for my books, but that’s it. No PR person either. Bravo TV is my PR.”
Caroline, in her August 20, 2012 Bravo blog, wrote a short blog (just a few sentences) for episode 16, saying:
“This has been quite a season so far, and frankly I can’t wait for it to end so I can lock it away in my mind’s vault never to surface again.”
“Here’s my problem with Caroline: she is always saying she’s over the drama and doesn’t do drama, while constantly causing it by instigating it and involving herself in other people’s family issues, while simultaneously saying no one has the right to get involved in her family dramas or comment on it. It’s a double-standard. And next week I think she’s going to maybe lose it or something – I don’t know, but I feel she’s been very out of line with Teresa’s family this season. Maybe she’s over it completely ( I can sympathize), and I know Bravo is hiding pivotal information from us but, still, it’s getting ridiculous and she is looking like a huge hypocrite.” [Mary, August 20, 2012, Reality Tea]
“Caroline is a total shit stirrer. When Jacq said she was ok with just being a casual friend to Tre, Caroline was all over that screaming that you need to pour out your deepest thoughts to your friends. Really? When it was clear she wasn’t able to stir any more shit between Jacq and Tre, she decided to turn to Kathy and tell her how lousy Tre treats her too. I didn’t think the toast was mean, what is Tre supposed to do, go around the room and make up things to thank people for? She isn’t articulate, she doesn’t think ahead, but I refuse to believe she planned to diss Kathy. She’s just not that smart. Caroline is the mean girl on the RHONJ, not Tre. And why is everyone so friggin concerned with their friendship with Teresa anyway? God, it’s like watching high school, where everyone wants to hang with the popular girl. Pathetic.” [poeticlicenced, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity]
“For Caroline to come on national TV and said she felt ‘sorry for Teresa’ about her marriage… if that is not mean spirited, what is?” [GiveMeBalls, August 31, 2012, Twitter]
“The phone call was every bit as disgusting as we thought it would be. Juicy is a low life pig! He is a thug! But it was evident that Tre is aware that Juicy is not on the level. Tre acted desperate, and all the over-the-top sexual talk and behavior was really horrible! She truly embarrassed herself, Big Time! All I can think of is the Guidice girls, Gia in particular. These children deserve better than to have their parents behaving like this on national TV. At the end of the day, it is these kids who will be hurt the most.” – KateH, August 20, 2012, StoopidHousewives
“Teresa, often you have dismissed or explained some bad behavior or words from your husband by basically saying that he is no different than many other guys in and from Jersey. My husband is Newark born and bred and Jersey through and through. He would NEVER address me or any other woman, for that matter, in the manner your husband did on last night’s show. Please stop maligning all men from New Jersey because your husband has acted or spoken thoughtlessly, disrespectfully or moronically to you or someone else. Your Joe acts the way he acts and speaks the way he speaks because he chooses to do so. Period. You need to just accept that is the man you married and deal with it.” – BobbiNJ, August 20, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog
“I’m not a Teresa fan but last night’s episode made me feel sorry for her. She doesn’t seem to have any dignity or self-respect, throwing herself at her husband when he clearly does not want her. Even at the beginning of the episode when Teresa was trying to get a photo of them, he wasn’t having it. She keeps poking and picking at him in this childish way and putting on this show for the others that their relationship is solid and full of love and romance. The other housewives (maybe not Caroline) would probably be at her side, giving her love and support, if she would just admit that things are crappy and she needs to lean on them. Stop with this ‘I’m a strong woman!’ crap and let your friends help you when you are so obviously hurting.” – KendiPop, August 20, 2012, Television Without Pity
“Tre, I do feel bad for your situation with Joe. I think that is good that you are holding on to your vows and your family, but I think you have a serious problem with denial. It seems to be a reoccurring issue in many areas of your life. The fact that Joe called you those names is horrifying and unbelievable, but what about the lying to you? He was saying ‘ah don’t tell me that’ as if someone were teasing him on the phone, and he wished he were with them, and then lied to your face about it. To me this is even worse because, yes, we all get stressed and say things we regret, but this is more than that, and I think deep down you know that. I think Joe may be cheating on you or he was. Sorry to say that, but that is how it looks from my view. Not an easy thing to face or admit, but the way he treats you will not change until it is at least acknowledged. He has been treating you poorly throughout all the seasons. I think there is always a lesson to be learned when we have bumps in the road, so I would say search deep within to find out what that lesson may be and face it and don’t let what other people think dictate the way you respond, just be honest with yourself.” – tellinthetruth, August 21, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog
A friend told The Huffington Post on August 16, 2012:
“Teresa will never, ever leave Joe. She adores him and will always make excuses for his behavior. He was caught on tape talking with a mystery woman, calling his wife a ‘bitch’ and a ‘c***’ and she chose not to see the red flag. Even if she caught him naked with another woman, she would believe that the wind blew both of their clothes off!”
People magazine has the footage of the mysterious phone call from ‘work’ (People magazine’s clip of the scene shows more than Bravo’s clip on its website) filmed in early September 2011.
At a surprise 50th birthday party for Caroline Manzo in Sonoma, California, Joe is captured disrespecting and demeaning Teresa in the foulest of ways during a mystery phone call. Joe excuses himself from the table, claiming he had to leave to call “work.” A short while later, Teresa slapped down her dinner napkin and went to find him. Spotting her approach, Joe said in a low voice, “Here comes my bitch wife. She’s such a c—. I’m gonna hang up … I’ll talk to you, like, whenever.” Confronted by Teresa about the suspicious call, it was clear Joe couldn’t let his wife know who he was talking to. To cover, he pretended he was still on the phone with a “worker” … who didn’t speak English! Joe’s deceit and the despicable way he spoke about her would devastate any woman, but Teresa is famously in denial when it comes to her husband. “She knows that she has said she’d leave him for cheating,” one friend tells In Touch, “but she doesn’t want to do that. She doesn’t want to be divorced.” [In Touch, August 14, 2012, Teresa Giudice Humiliated By Husband On Upcoming Episode]
Here is People magazine’s report (you can also find the video by googling: ‘VIDEO: Teresa Giudice’s Husband Caught Lying on Camera?’):
Who’s Joe Giudice talking to?
The husband of Real Housewives of New Jersey star Teresa Giudice has been caught on camera using some highly offensive language while speaking about his wife.
While the New Jersey cast, including the Manzos, the Lauritas, the Wakiles and the Gorgas, are all in Napa, Calif., to celebrate Caroline Manzo’s 50th birthday, Joe excuses himself to take a phone call – for work, he says.
What he says on the phone at first – in English – to the person on the other end isn’t necessarily incriminating. But once he sees his wife walking over to him, the name-calling begins.
“Here she comes, my b–– wife. She’s such a c––,” he says. “I’m going to hang up.”
When Teresa asks, “Who are you talking to?” he replies, “A worker, what the f––?”
He also calls Teresa – to her face – a “pain in the ass” and a “re––.”
Then he tells Teresa that the “worker” on the phone doesn’t understand English. He then starts to speak in Italian, seemingly to back up his claim about who is on the phone.
A source tells PEOPLE about the couple, “She and Joe are still together, and Teresa says they’re fine.”
In Touch interviewed Teresa Giudice on August 15, 2012. Here is the interview:
After watching an advance screening of the episode of her husband making a secretive phone call to what many believe was another woman – and referring to Teresa over the phone as a “b*tch” and a “c**t” – Teresa tells In Touch:
“I felt like I’d been kicked in the stomach. I was humiliated… I can’t defend him on this,”Teresa continues. “I’m hurt by him and disappointed by him.”
While Teresa clings to the belief that Joe was on the phone with a “worker” at the New Jersey pizzeria he owned, she tells In Touch,
“I am not stupid,” adding that if Joe continues to humiliate her like this, “I will not be with him. I will totally leave him.”
Teresa says that after she sat her husband down and forced him to watch the clip,
“He was so ashamed and embarrassed,” she says. “He was like, ‘I can’t believe I ever said that’.”
While Joe has promised to turn over a new leaf, Teresa tells In Touch,
“If this continues, I will leave.”
“I just saw a clip of this scene on People’s website and he said, ‘Hey, what are you doing?’ It was so obvious to me that he was talking to a woman. His lowered tone, his ‘awww, don’t tell me that’ and weird chuckle, then he starts hurling insults about Teresa as she approaches – and this clip did show him calling her a ‘bitch’, ‘cunt’ and ‘retard’. He’s a gem. I was wondering why he was being so blatant, and if he didn’t want to be heard, why didn’t he take his mic off first? Dude is a douche and an idiot. I think the guy had a drink or two in him and forgot to remove the mic, but what compounded it was that he acted spontaneously in the moment: seeing who was calling, picking it up, walking away from the table. But he missed that one critical step – removing his mic. He absolutely was talking to a woman. And she was flirting/teasing him and he was flirting back before Teresa walked over. THE PHONE CALL VIDEO over on the Bravo site is featured as a headline; People magazine’s version of the phone call shows more. He was obviously talking to someone very special. It sounded like he was responding to a ‘I miss you’ comment. If that were me, I’d yank that phone out of his hand or wait until he passed out to check his call history. Teresa knew something was up. It looked like she didn’t want anyone there to know there are problems – holding hands to walk back to the group. Very sad. That was NOT his job he was talking to like that. – Tafatia, August 10, 2012, Television Without Pity
“Rumor out in the twitterverse is that, when Teresa saw the phone call preview, she had her lawyer threaten to sue Bravo. And Bravo got so mad at her that they showed even more of the conversation than they had planned to air. The first rumor I read is that Bravo was not going to run much more than the ‘Here she comes, my bitch wife’ part of the conversation until Teresa threatened to sue. And that Bravo got so ticked off that the extended it to show even more to include more damaging comments.” – WestCoastFeed, August 15, 2012, Reality Tea
“So there is a discussion over at RHONJ facebook page about this upcoming episode. A strong supporter of the Giudices repeats the rumor that this upcoming episode had to be re-edited as it was edited to include comments not made by Juicy. And that the Giudices lawyers had to intervene?” – Lolag1, August 16, 2012, Reality Tea
“Queenz maintains that Teresa had her lawyer threaten to sue Bravo if they aired it. Queenz claims a source affiliated with Bravo.” – WestCoastFeed, August 21, 2012, Reality Tea
“From the beginning of this season, it seemed like Joe was going through something and it was affecting their marriage. The changes that occurred in his life were big and were made public on camera by Bravo with full participation from Teresa’s cast mates: lawsuit, bankruptcy, arrest, suspended license, subsequent arrest [Bravo trying to demonize him to the LGBT community]. The not driving, I think, probably had the most impact on his day-to-day life — Teresa became the breadwinner and as a man he was probably feeling in some ways helpless because he couldn’t drive himself to work and was depending on his wife more. On top of that, he had Teresa’s family going on the show to hurt her and him, which he was helpless to control since it was Bravo’s decision. I think Teresa and Joe were working through problems in their marriage and didn’t want anyone to know. And I don’t think we all need to know what exactly was happening in their marriage, even if they are on a reality show. They should control how much of their personal lives they are willing to reveal. I don’t blame them because the other sharks were circling around waiting for blood to spill. It seems like they are in a better place presently, judging from Teresa’s tweets and pictures. – ClaireB, August 14, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com
The private conversation that Joe Giudice and Joe Gorga had in the bushes while taking a bathroom break after Gorga flipped his kayak in the river during season 4 episode 15 was very telling:
Gorga: Cut the shit you son of a bitch. Before I smack…
Giudice: You started it. When you tell your sister things. Don’t go telling her nothin’. If you gotta say it, tell me.
Gorga: I would never tell her anything.
Giudice: You do. Because then she tells me. That’s why we fight.
Gorga: You the man. I have to back you up. You understand [unintelligble]. I’m not so bad.
Giudice: [unintelligble as they shake hands]
Plus, did Joe Giudice out himself as a cheater after Joe Gorga exposed himself in the RV during episode 15? Was it a slip-up that he tried to cover-up by saying he showed (past tense) his private parts to women in relationships before marrying Teresa? Giudice said:
“I only show mine (penis) to women. Like my wife. That’s it. [Melissa: ‘He wants to prove to women? Women? A WOMAN!’ Teresa in the background is in pain and drunk (like the others) and seems oblivious to what is being said.] No, no. The women I had in the past know what mine looks like. My wife knows what mine’s looks like. And that’s it.”
A major story arc for season 4, unbeknownst to the Giudices as they were filming, was Joe’s marriage fidelity. Apparently, Joe didn’t know that his mysterious phone conversation at the vineyard was caught on camera (obviously Teresa was in the dark about what he was saying until she saw the footage just before its scheduled airing a year later, on August 19, 2012).
“Whether or not Joe is caught on tape talking on the phone with a girlfriend – the intention by Bravo is to unhinge Teresa. Andy seems to want to break her. Teresa has had plenty of rope to hang herself, and if she wasn’t getting piled on by everyone, I’d be all for it. However, with everyone (including Andy) trying to knock her down, I find myself actually sympathizing with her and taking her side – which is a bit strange because up until this season I could not stand the woman.” – msblossom, August 13, 2012, Television Without Pity
Note that Bravo included footage in episode 15 of Melissa bringing up an old grudge with Teresa — she reminded Teresa about what she said to her when she first married Joe Gorga: she said that Teresa told her the Senior Gorgas were going think she was a stripper or gold-digger because she had ‘fake boobs’. Here’s what Melissa said to Teresa when they were riding in the RV:
“When I first married into this family and we all went on vacation together, you were like (Melissa says condescendingly, while shaking her head and scrunching her face), ‘You have fake boobs, oool; my mom and my dad, they’re not going to like this’ (Joe Gorga, laughing, says, ‘Yes you did, yes you did!; Teresa, smiling and giggling, says ‘I know!). And I’m like, ‘Oh, now I feel real comfortable coming to the beach with you guys. I love you Teresa (sarcastically); and Joe (turning to Joe who is driving the RV), I love your sister, she’s a sweetheart’ (Joe, smiling and nodding his head while Teresa is still giggling)’. Teresa (still giggling) says, ‘A lot of Italians think when you have fake boobs that you’re a stripper or a gold-digger.’ Melissa interrupts, saying (as Joe Gorga is cracking up), ‘Unless it’s your fake boobs and then it’s ok!’ (Teresa, still giggling, says, ‘Noooo!’) And then Teresa says (more seriously), ‘I was sticking up for your ass. I didn’t want her to think you were a stripper’ (Melissa nods her head yet has a smirk on her face while Joe Gorga can be heard still laughing).
Bravo chose to include footage all season long that would make viewers suspicious of Joe Giudice’s faithfulness to his wife, and episode 16 is the culmination of the infidelity story arc [also, in episode 15, Bravo is foreshadowing the Posche Fashion Show event, the season finale, where Melissa accuses Teresa of setting her up to expose her alleged dancer/stripper past]. In the premiere episode, Joe Gorga brought up on camera the rumors of Joe Guidice cheating on Teresa, which was tied in with a private conversation Teresa had with her brother that ended with her telling him rumors about Melissa. In one of the first episodes of the season, Teresa questions Joe’s business meeting with a woman and discusses her concerns that Gia is hearing the tabloid rumors, and then again in a later episode Teresa asks Joe in whose car did he find his wallet.
A spouse is always the last to believe the signs of a cheating spouse, even when those signs are so glaringly obvious to everyone else.
“Infidelity is extremely difficult to deal with when only you and your spouse know about it. Having the complete world know that your spouse cheated is catastrophic to your self-esteem. It is humiliating and degrading. Divorce seems the only real option to this disgrace. He cheated, you’re leaving, that’s it. Months later we’re shocked that these same women who were so publicly humiliated have decided to remain with the spouse who cheated. And yet, many women choose to stay with their husbands, try to rebuild their marriages and make them stronger. It isn’t just women whose lives are in the spotlight; women from all walks of life remain in a marriage after a cheating husband has confessed his infidelities. There are many reasons for this decision… Can these women really overcome the pain and humiliation of infidelity? Will their marriages survive to become a workable partnership once more? Is there married life after the infidelity? The answer to these questions is a surprising yes. It will take time and understanding… The cheating spouse must be truly contrite and make a solid commitment to never again be unfaithful. There can be no compromise about this… Trust can never be completely reinstated and the husband who has broken that trust must understand this fact. Knowledge of his daily whereabouts is no longer simply a matter of courtesy; it is a necessity for his wife’s emotional health… You do not have to forgive. Acceptance of human frailties is what is needed. Marriages can be repaired after infidelity. Time and effort on the part of both spouses need to become part of daily life. Kindness, patience, and reassurance on the part of the husband who cheated are expected. Surprisingly the very same infidelity that has the potential to destroy a marriage, can also make a couple realize how close they have come to losing all that is important in their life together. It can work to rebuild a marriage that may become stronger for having survived this breach of trust.” [Why Women Stay With Cheating Husbands]
An ‘anonymous’ commenter from a 2008 blog entry at OnCommonGround claimed to be having an affair with a husband of one of the New Jersey Housewives:
“I am having an affair with someone on the show. Hints later!” (December 29, 2008)
“I’m not a guy and there ARE husbands on the show too…..Yes?? Ok then. Thats the first hint. ” (January 2, 2009)
While season 1 was filming, Melissa, or another close relative or friend of Teresa, blogged anonymously in that same blog about rumors of Joe Guidice’s infidelity. Here’s some of what she said about Teresa and Joe Giudice:
“I know alot of ones’ husband and he definitely is not too involved with his wife and three kids; idiot, clueless mother and a housewive that has no idea what her husband does and who; maybe Teresa should do a credit check on her husband.”
More about that blog here: Melissa Gorga Began Bashing Teresa Giudice While Season 1 Was Filming in June 2008
Source Claims That Joe Giudice Was/Is Having an Affair with Someone Named ‘Tara’
Absurd to Sublime broke a story in August 2010 (from a source she promised to never name) about Joe Giudice having a long-term affair with someone named ‘Tara’, who once posted under the Twitter handle petiteposie. There also was an anonymous commenter at StoopidHousewives in 2011 who claimed to have knowledge of an affair that Joe Giudice was/is having with someone named ‘Tara’:
“I want to tell you that I live here in the same town as Tara (Joe’s sicilian sidedish) and I can’t take another second of this. Joe & Tara (or Beppe and Petit) have been together for a while. I spoke with her friend Alex who said they are all disgusted and surprised at the relationship. Tara comes from a wealthy and well connected family. Her father is a crazy sicilian. Anyway, they meet up in Long Beach Island at her beach house and it’s easier to meet up now that Teresa is away a lot (like this weekend in Vegas). Teresa: where was Joe the night of the christening and the night you came back from Italy? He left the house and you know it, to “check on the pizza place”. Yeah right! Joe is a jealous lunatic when it comes to Tara F (not G). She’s gorgeous, so what the hell is she doing with a broke loser, her friends ask? It’s sexual supposedly. She tweets to him in Italian so he can keep tabs on her (again, because he’s jealous). Alexandra said when she posted her photo on her twitter he flipped out because he said if people find it ‘everyone will want to get in your pants and I’m going to go apeshit’. She hasn’t taken the photo down but wrote on it to him. Also according to her friend, Joe is leaving Teresa asap. He can’t stand the cameras and press. He just wants to live quietly. Teresa is a fame whore and 15 minutes is up. Tara told her she’ll never come forward because she’s afraid of her family.”
Who started that? Danielle [Staub]?” Teresa asks when queried about the infidelity rumors by PopEater. “She is pathetic and has way too much time on her hands.”
The rumor which alleges Joe has been having an affair with a woman named Tara G hit the net a few weeks ago. The rumor then grew legs once the reunion episode aired, with people alleging that Danielle was referencing a lovechild by Joe when she brought up Teresa’s nephew. But as we reported yesterday, it seems Danielle was indeed talking about a nephew of Teresa’s.
“It’s totally false,” says Teresa. “Trust me, Joe gets enough love IN our marriage, he doesn’t need to look anywhere else. Unlike Danielle, I know how to keep a real man happy!”
As for who this Tara G individual might be, a source tells Popeater “Joe is not cheating on Teresa,” adding that “there is no Tara G. People saw Joe and Teresa out to dinner with Tamra from the ‘Real Housewives of the OC’ the night of Joe’s [truck] accident and it got reported that that was his girlfriend. Tamra = Tara. But Teresa was with them both!”
In an article from InTouch Weekly, Joe laughs off the rumors, stating that he and Teresa “still make love once, sometimes twice a day.”
Back to this Tara individual, There’s still no proof that this person even exists or that Joe is cheating. We however received an email earlier this week, with someone telling us that the girl’s name is Tara F, and that she is blonde with blue eyes, 100% Sicilian and speaks fluent Italian.
The tipster also alleges that Tara F ‘makes her own money working for a major fashion brand in Philly. Rumors are that Joe wants to separate from Teresa, sell the house and live with Tara in NJ or PA. She just bought a farmhouse on 8 acres in Bucks County.”
Caroline Manzo Predicted That Teresa Will Leave Joe If He Goes to Jail
Caroline Manzo predicted during season 4 episode 13, which aired July 22, 2012, that Teresa Giudice will leave Joe if he goes to jail and then write a tell-all book for the sole purpose of making money. She also said, ‘You heard it here first.’
“Teresa wants it all, and I think that the demands she put on him led him to make decisions that weren’t the best. And I think he resents her for it, and he’s going to pay the ultimate price for it. Prediction: Something may happen where someone has to go somewhere. Teresa’s going to have to pull herself up on her bootstraps and take over. She’ll say, ‘You know what, I tried. I stood by him, but I have to divorce him now. And I’m gonna show my daughters what it’s like to be strong and independent on your own and survive’. There’s a book there somewhere. You heard here first.”
Caroline went on WWHL the night the episode premiered and defended her comments — this was two days after the Century movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado, which she did not mention. However, a day later, she published only a single paragraph for her episode 13 Bravo blog, explaining that she wasn’t going to blog about the episode out of respect for the victims of the shooting… she used the tragedy in Colorado to shift focus away from calling out someone else’s marriage on national TV.
I have never seen a woman who so clearly hates other women and yet makes excuses for men.
Us Weekly, the go-to magazine for the Manzos/Lauritas/Gorgas/Wakiles/Marcos, ran a story very similar to what Caroline said. Here’s the quote:
“If Joe goes to jail, there will be sympathy for her,” a show source recently told Us Weekly on May 29, 2012. “And she’ll get a spinoff about life as a single mom. She’ll do a book deal, too: My Life Without Joe or something like that.”
During season 4, Chris Laurita said “someone will have to take the fall” when he and Jacqueline were discussing whether or not Teresa would go to jail. He was emphasizing, like his sister Caroline, that poor Joe was going to take the fall and not Teresa.
Also during season 4, Jacqueline Laurita implied that the Giudice’s marriage was on the rocks, saying, “Joe and Teresa are both leading separate lives.”
This is very similar to what a ‘show source’ told Us Weekly on May 18, 2012:
“A ‘show source’ told Us Weekly that what’s shown on TV only scratches the surface of the Giudice family’s unhappy home. ‘They’re so dysfunctional that it’s all starting to come out,’ said the ‘show source’ of Teresa and Joe.
In her Bravo blog, Teresa addressed Jacqueline’s on-camera gossip that she and Joe lead separate lives:
“No, we don’t lead ‘separate lives.’ I have no idea why Jacqueline would bring up that rumor — she seems to love to bring up crazy rumors on camera about everyone else. Not very nice, and definitely not true. Joe still does and always has lived in our house (he’s never had a separate ‘work apartment’ or anything), and he sleeps in our bed with me every night.”
“While I agree that tragedies like the one in Colorado remind us of what is important in life, I can’t help but feel that you chose to focus on that in order to avoid addressing the despicable comment you made about Joe and Teresa during Sunday night’s episode. Your actions are cowardly, and I have lost all respect for you.” [teechr21, July 25, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog]
“Caroline, the shootings in Colorado were indeed tragic. My prayers go out to all the victims, survivors and their family and friends. My dear Caroline, I must say that it is pretty predictable that you use this as an excuse to avoid owning up to the nasty comments in regards to Teresa and her family.” [imlpnrn50, July 25, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog]
“It did not stop you from being nasty on WWHL Sunday night. It certainly did not stop Lauren from twitter and again taking a dig at Teresa about her harmless skinny girl comment.” [CalleyCreed9, July 25, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog]
“You’re having trouble writing your blog because you can’t get your mind off the Colorado tragedy??? You seemed to be just fine Sunday night on WWHL with Andy.” [VanessaK, July 25, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog]
“Caroline, wouldn’t you like to apologize for making that horrible comment about Teresa’s marriage? Who says that? Teresa spoke to her own brother, IN PRIVATE, about how she felt, whereas you call her out for that and then blurt to national t.v. that she has this plan to leave him. Obviously, you have NO respect for marriage, because if you did, you wouldn’t have made that comment to national tv, so carelessly. Teresa spoke with her brother out of concern; you just said it to national tv so if they ever did break-up, you could put the blame on her. That was horrible – have some respect for marriage.” [Nikki101, July 25, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog]
“Caroline is such a hypocrite. She stated in her blog, when Teresa said something to Joe Gorga about his marriage, that marriage is a line that you never cross. But I guess that only means other people’s marriage.” [thumbs-down-rhonj, July 25, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog]
“Horrible tragedy it was, I agree. I do, however, think you took the coward’s way out this week, not posting about the horrible remark you made. Shame on you. You don’t ‘sell’ your family? Last weeks show was nothing but one big Manzo/Laurita commercial, and you have your kids on the show specifically to ‘sell’ them, since they can’t seem to make their way without mommy and daddy’s help. Teresa needs to ‘pull herself up by the bootstraps?’ Seems to me she has already done so, and whether or not what you say about her marriage is true, she will be fine, because she works her butt off. I don’t believe you anyway; I think you are selling tabloid stories. So, you said Teresa ‘crossed the line’ speaking of Joe and Melissa’s marriage, but it is ok for you to speak of hers? You have turned into such a bitter hypocrite. Your grandkids will see these episodes someday. Hope you are proud.” [retrobou, July 25, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog]
Here is an excellent comment by MomLeader on Caroline’s Bravo Blog:
This last episode was VERY ENLIGHTENING, and I believe held crucial info in figuring this all out. A viewer below wrote a very long blog questioning why anyone would question Caroline and I can absolutely address it. Yes, ALL of the other women have a problem with Teresa, she’s fighting with EVERYBODY, but it’s because EVERY WOMAN on this show has an agenda to ruin Teresa so there is room for their success. We’ve watched it like a roadmap! It was a dumb plan and ruthless to boot.
The viewer asked ‘if all the women have a problem with Teresa, how can ALL the women be wrong?’ That’s just the new marching orders because they have been revealed. I’ll turn it around: if ALL the viewers, about 95% have figured out these women’s motives, how can ALL the viewers be wrong?
Listen, all of that is NOTHING compared to what we just learned. Caroline made a giant error this last episode. And she revealed HERSELF! She has been feeding the very rag magazines she has accused Teresa of, and here’s how we know: It’s plain as day, and there IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION.
I can’t believe these blogs aren’t saying this, but ‘twitter’ sure as heck is. The boards are ‘fuming’ with the following info: Last month, ‘someone’ gave the rag magazines the story that ‘Teresa was hoping Joe would go to jail so she could write a book and make money’ Last Month! There were about ten articles in the ten different rag magazines (the very magazines that all the women say ‘Teresa uses’ to get info out in.) They all had the exact same five quotes saying that ‘Teresa is hoping Joe goes to jail so she can write a book about the strength it takes to overcome this.’ Go look them up! They were everywhere and started a slew of viscous blogs at Teresa questioning her motives by cruel, shock bloggers. ALL of the articles had the same source telling these magazines that Teresa planned on writing a book. And they were all the same quotes – and the same source – ‘a close family friend.’
Well, on this last episode, Caroline told us in the exact same words on her talking head’s bit, verbatim actually, what these rag magazines were saying, again, ‘that Teresa was going to use Joe going to jail, to show the world what a strong woman she was.’ And then Caroline threw in that ‘Teresa would write a book,’ and she even closed it with “you heard it here first!” Caroline filmed this talking head bit (on this episode), LAST YEAR, and these articles in the rag magazines from ‘a close family friend’ came out last month. You do the math.
Caroline had to have fed these rag magazines these ‘exact quotes’ for the articles. Teresa was right: they do have these rag’s ‘on speed dial,’ and it’s crystal clear Caroline called them to give them this info. I reiterate, they came out last month, they were EVERYWHERE, and Caroline did this talking head bit last year. MY GOD WHAT DOES ANYONE ELSE NEED? That was a viscous, inhumane rumor to put out there. Teresa’s girls will eventually see it, and Caroline even SAID the exact quotes on this last episode.
Good Lord, we all see how Teresa tries like ‘he**’ not to have her girls affected by what these women are doing to her. Does anyone really think she wants her kids’ Daddy to go to jail? Imagine the effect that will have on them. That story was disgusting and the articles in the rag magazine’s from a ‘family source’ were the exact WORDS Caroline used on this last episode, saying Teresa will write a book. It’s in black and white, go look them up. Just type in ‘family source says Teresa wants husband to go to jail so she can make money’ and you will see the words verbatim from Caroline’s last talking head bit and the articles last month!
It’s so horrific to process, and so hypocritical, seeing they have just crucified Teresa with this one fact: that Teresa uses the rag magazines to set herself and everyone else up! I can’t imagine karma will let BLK be anything other than a flop with these viscous people at the helm. It’s stomach turning, and just too seedy to fathom.
Teresa claims that she does not give stories about the other housewives to tabloids and blogs.
“For the millionth time, I don’t talk to the tabloids or sell stories about myself or anyone else. I think Caroline and co. think if they say it enough times it will be true, but it’s odd that the stories are always about me, not them… I do give interviews to certain magazines though, just like Bethenny’s on the cover of People magazine this week with the headline “How I Saved My Marriage.” I’m sure she doesn’t love that headline, but she doesn’t get to write it, she only gets to answer their questions, and that’s her talking to her fan base through the press, not selling her own stories to the tabloids. If anyone could explain this to the people on my show, I will be forever grateful!” [Teresa Giudice, July 24, 2012, The Knitting Circle]
“I’m disappointed with Joe and Teresa because I thought they were good people, and they knocked down everybody. They knocked down the Gorgas. They knocked down the Wakiles. They don’t want to see anybody do well but themselves. I’m concerned that it’s going to go back to the same old bull(bleep), which is going to be fighting and drama, and that’s not what this trip is all about,” said Chris Laurita during season 4 episode 13. Chris said he heard that Joe Giudice was spreading tales of Chris’ financial problems around town. “As it stands right now, I know what I’m dealing with,” he added.
“How about that Chris Laurita? Who knew we had a new Housewife? I’ve known the guy for years and I’ve never heard him talk so much in my life! Of course I’m not loving what he has to say, especially since it’s behind our backs. First of all, I think you can see my husband doesn’t give a crap about other people’s personal lives, and he’s definitely not running around town talking about Chris. That’s just insane. Joe said something to Chris at a birthday party that ended up being quoted in a tabloid, and I warned Joe that Chris shouldn’t be trusted, but Joe just doesn’t care. He keeps being nice to people, he’ll stay friends with anyone. He just doesn’t have time for bullshit. You could see he wasn’t thrilled to be at the knitting circle clipping coupons and gossiping with the other husbands that night at Chris’ house, but he showed up to keep the peace. And I’m so proud of him for defending me.” [Teresa Giudice, July 24, 2012, The Knitting Circle]
“Chris Laurita – ugh….how pathetic. Wasn’t it he who sat in front of the cameras a few episodes ago and talked about your finances? He went on tv and said that he offered to buy your furniture from auction and give it back to you. He didn’t shut Jacqueline up at Mel’s release party when she went off on your bankruptcy. They are all freaking hypocrites.”[ViewerNJ, July 25, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog]
Joe Giudice defended his wife during Chris Laurita’s meeting with the other men.
1. Joe Guidice – invited a half hour after the other men – JUST enough time for the cameras to find out how each person, including her brother, think’s Teresa should be publicly hung.
2. Chris Laurita – sits in the housewife chair and whines about things he’s heard “around town” after his wife has SAID horrific, personal things regarding the Guidice’s to our FACES & everywhere.
3. Joe Guidice, who is probably at his lowest point in his life, gets goaded by Chris in front of a room of people who Joe has watched actually torture his wife for 2 years. Then Chris sits back and watches Joe react – I believe, according to plan..
ALL of this is to remove the competition so BLK has room because they are desperate. Only explanation. So um, no Jacqueline, I don’t think your husband is a great guy. I think he’s just like you and your team: manipulative, mean people, who would do anything for success and money. Anything. You’ve encouraged Joe Guidice to just be ridiculed, so how do YOU like the honesty. I think Chris is a greedy jerk who, in his panic, revealed himself. …..Print THAT Bravo.
– MomLeader, July 26, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
Jacqueline said in her blog for episode 13 that she and her husband never ever mentioned on TV Teresa’s finances and that it wasn’t until after the reunion that she “may have impulsively tweeted a couple of things about her when she was upset.” She is lying, obviously, since her talking about Teresa’s finances is in the show’s footage. In season 4 (which was filmed before the reunion for season 3) she mentioned Teresa’s finances during the deck ambush, then at the ‘On Display’ remix release party, when Chris said he offered to buy their furniture at auction, and in her talking head interviews (also, she mentioned Teresa’s finances during season 3, in a scene with Caroline and Jacqueline).
Here’s a recap of the husband’s meeting by NJ.com:
When Joe Giudice realizes that Chris called the meeting to discuss the Napa trip and the problems between the wives, Joe Giudice gets an unpleasant look on his face. Yes, more unpleasant than usual.
“I mean, me, frankly, I don’t give a (bleep) who gets upset,” Joe Giudice says. “Cause I know Jacqueline’s bringing out a lot of this bull that she doesn’t have to bring out. If you read magazines and then you believe in magazines, then you’re a fool like the magazine.”
Joe Gorga gets serious and tells his brother-in-law that he’s trying to make his relationship better with Teresa: “She’s got some issues.”
Joe Giudice: “It seems to me like she’s been bending over backward to try to work things out with you.”
The two Joes start bickering about why they have such a lousy relationship, and finally, we discover the root of their problems. It’s the male equivalent of the sprinkle cookie debacle: Joe Giudice lent Joe Gorga some masonry tools a decade or so ago, and Joe Gorga never gave them back.
“You hate me because of that?” Joe Gorga asks.
“No, I don’t hate you because of that,” Joe Giudice says. “But I’m just saying, I never had a problem helping anybody.”
He turns to Rich: “You needed whatever, boom boom boom. You were pumping gas when I met you. Now you got a house.”
“And you were flipping pizzas like six months ago, but you were telling everybody you own a (bleeping) food establishment. Everything you do is so big,” Rich shoots back.
Chris Laurita is covering his face with his hands.
“The bottom line is, whenever I borrowed something from someone, I give it back,” Joe Giudice says.
Here is an excellent comment by FanViewerNJ on Jacqueline’s Bravo blog:
After all you have said and done to your friend, I can’t believe you have a single SOUL out there who would say that anything negative written to you isn’t by far surpassed by YOUR cruel and vindictive actions. Who are you kidding Jacqueline?
This episode was just another day at the Laurita house to ambush Teresa and Joe Guidice in the hopes of ruining them a little bit more so BLK had a “chance” to break out with the fans. Not gonna work.
Your ridiculous husband taking that talking head’s chair to cry about hearing things “around town” while we have heard his wife publicly crucify Teresa on any outlet she could find was my last straw. He told us all how BLK has him in a panic, that “this is it,” and even your husband tried a last ditch effort to save his neck by removing the “it” girl.
Teresa’s products flying off the shelves really exposed what you guys are all about. Albie tried to tell us, “that no one would understand picking BLK over true love” but I think we GET it now. MONEY is what it’s all about, and the greed has been barbaric.
And yes Jacqueline, you were embarrassing at the meeting. I think you have gone right off the dep end and I’m sure you’re dealing with all the things you have done to your friend out of greed. Your husband joined you and I have lost all respect for him. I will avoid BLK and any product the two of you release like it’s the plague.
You have been spiteful, vindictive and merciless to the Guidice’s. Just because your endeavor’s were failing, it does not justify destroying a family, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself it does. And that goes for your housewife husband too!
Here are excellent comments made on on Teresa’s Bravo blog about the ‘cheating’ episode:
Even though you, Teresa, did say you were sick at the names he called you, it was over a year ago, the alcohol had something to do with it, the weather at the time upset him, and then he was around people he did not want to be around — now here is where Bravo will say they did not make you go, they will say they did not use a contract either, to make you go on this trip. You also eluded to his being tired , so every time you say Joe was wrong to call you such names — right after you say that, you then list reasons why he said them, like I will repeat it was the weather (the hurricane) it was the booze, it was the TV cameras (that one I like, you should think about leaving the show if it brings out the worst in Joe, and calling any woman the C word is about enough. You also switch and talk about how someone has a mistress, how Melissa says nasty things).
You forgot one important thing — just to own it — say things are different now and I want to be with my husband, he is sorry and so on. True, it would have been shorter, but you would not have been blaming Bravo (your PR) and it’s cameras, booze, long taping, other people etc.
You knew this was coming, so you had time to start writing out what wanted to say. I myself would have had much more respect if you would have kept it simple — he did it, we have talked it out, I intend to stay with him, simple and with pride. But, no, you had to blame everything from nature to Bravo (your bread and butter) to every person on the trip “that you say Joe did not want to go on”.
I wish your fans would re-read what you wrote, because it really does not matter if it all true — it had nothing to do with the name calling. No one was involved but Joe; and, as I said, you did not have to defend staying or forgiving him by using other people — you could have been a big girl and said, “This is my desicion and no one else’s.” I can honestly say I would have understood that reasoning more and the pride you took in the art of forgiving (if that is what you chose).
Theresa, it’s ok to stay married for the sake of the children (believe me I understand that part), at least for now…but don’t look at things with one eye covered and the other closed…Understand what it is you saw on the show and protect yourself from the fallout of that… I felt bad for you because I because I don’t think he was talking business…seemed more like another woman to me…I could be wrong and I hope I am…but either way…you know now what he thinks, something that was said not realizing you would hear it…Raise your daughters…take care of yourself…and do what you need to do for you…He seems like an alcoholic with no edit button — you seem to spend more time trying to explain what he does and make excuses and apologies for him than anything else… now you see the situation for what it is…You are ahead of a lot of us…Just remember that now you know his feelings and probably are aware of what he is doing…If you ignore the information he has given you then you will have only yourself to blame…The choice is yours…I hope it works out however you want it to…
The show was hard to watch, even though we knew in large part was was going to happen. The reality of seeing Joe and hearing the phone call was every bit as brutal as Bravo advertised. I hope that Teresa finally sees Joe for who he is, who he has always been. My concern is that she will continue to not see the real, big picture. A lot of folks have praised her for not making excuses for him, but if you read the blog, while she didn’t make excuses or acknowledge that he might have cheated, she did make excuses for the reasons why he might have talked to her like that. If you read the In Touch article, you know she made similar excuses, including blaming it potentially on the fact that he had to spend a week on vacation with Caroline. This is denial in it’s most basic form – there is simply no way to blame any stress or other people on a man saying those things to his wife. The fact that she could attempt it should be of concern, but I understand that publicly this is humiliating and I cannot imagine in her position what I might do to save face.
We all know these things about Joe, however. Despite the fact that Teresa said he never talks to her like this at home, we all know that is not true because while he might not have used those particular words, we’ve seen him talk to her like that for a few years. The bigger concern for me was not his behavior, but some of the ways that Teresa acted out. Her hyper-sexual behavior right from the beginning of the episode was strange. I’m beginning to think it must be something in the genes with her and her brother. This strange need to put their sexuality completely out there, even when entirely inappropriate and in front of each other. The best things these two ever did was to make sure that their parents don’t watch the show – I cannot imagine what they would think when they see them behaving this way on National TV. Watching Teresa completely throw herself at Joe, in the vineyard, with people watching, while being filmed was something I would’ve never believed possible. The fact that he was so brutally rude to her, even calling her a whore, and her being so desperate that she didn’t even seem to see that she was humiliating herself. I’m not sure if she felt some need to be as “hot” of a couple as Joe and Melissa, or she was just desperate to prove to everyone else that Joe still wants her, but either way, this is a cry for help.
My plea for both Gorga and Teresa is to remember that you have children. They are not teenagers like the other kids who’ve probably developed coping skills to deal with the whole reality TV thing. They are small, and other kids can be mean. Other parents watching this will discuss it at home and the result will be mocking and shame for all of these kids. Teresa mentioned last year that school was sometimes very hard for Gia. It is fair to say that after this episode, things will get much worse. I know a lot of people will blame Bravo for showing Teresa’s romp in the vineyards and Joe’s phone call, but I disagree. It is the responsibility of the parents to protect their kids at all costs, not the networks. Why would anyone set the bar higher for Andy Cohen then they do Teresa and Joe? Good luck.
Teresa. please do not disparage ‘Jersey’ men or any other men by saying, “I look around me and I see other guys treating their women the same as Joe treated me and worse.” Really? I have lived in New Jersey my entire life and have NEVER heard a man talk to his wife or girlfriend the way Joe spoke to you in this episode. Throughout this season and past seasons there have been other times when Joe has been very disrespectful to you and you always gloss over it with one excuse or another for him. We all live with stress in our lives every day, Teresa, you can’t keep using that as a reason for his inappropriate behavior. You have four daughters for whom you and Joe are setting an example. Your actions and excuses for your husband are not those of a “strong and smart” woman.
- Teresa Defends Her Marriage, Live Appearance on ‘The Couch’, September 9, 2012 (Video)
- RHONJ Rumor Mill, The Chirping Twit, June 27, 2012
- Teresa Giudice’s Husband, Joe Giudice, Has Affair With Former Nanny
- Another Woman? Teresa Giudice’s Hubby Joe Caught At Dinner With ‘Attractive’ Mystery Brunette, January 2, 2014