Joe and Melissa Gorga Hold Grudges: It’s Their Whole Storyline; The Entire Cast Has Storylines Based on Old Grudges Against Teresa Giudice (Updated 8/27/12)
August 6, 2012 59 Comments
Teresa holds grudges like no other, and I can’t control that. She has to decide her family is important enough to her and let it go. The issues going on between her and Jacqueline and Caroline have nothing to do with me. It’s pretty obvious they are upset with her for their own reasons. I will say that there definitely is a sense of reality that is missing lately with the fake dogs and all the other nonsense stories. Teresa doesn’t ever have to worry about me taking anything from her, she loses her credibility all by herself. What you will see if you pay attention is that Teresa is trying to take me down every chance she gets. She is attacking my character, my marriage, my looks. What she is claiming is happening to her is quite the opposite. There goes that projection again. I see my husband Joe doing nothing but putting his two feet forward and also trying to move on with his sister. He is trying his hardest to convince her that they need to do something to fix it. Everyone is trying to move on from the past. It’s funny how Teresa says to Jacqueline at the wedding that therapy brings up the past and she doesn’t want to bring up the past, she wants to start fresh. Well then please do it, Teresa! It’s time to move on. I wish I could let her know that constantly lying to try to convince everyone that I’m a bad person is only going to give her temporary satisfaction. In the long run actions speak louder than words or written words that someone else writes for you. I am trying to move on, but quite honestly she is making it impossible. I’m so sick of all this nonsense. If Teresa ever comes to us and says she needs us, we will be there. But she hasn’t. I’m a smart girl and I can figure out why she is doing this. I said it in my first blog on Bravo and it remains true to this day. Teresa likes to be the center of attention. Be beneath her or get the hell out of her way. I refuse to let her walk all over me, disrespect me or my family, and that’s the real issue. – Melissa Gorga, A Real ‘Rockstar’, June 12, 2012
The Cast Keeps a List of What Teresa Has Done ‘Wrong’, Which is the Definition of Holding a Grudge
According to Melissa (Her Conversation with Teresa on the Beach During Their RV Trip, Season 4 Episode 14) the Cast Apparently Keeps a List on What’s Wrong With Teresa and What She Has Allegedly Done to Them (Melissa Had a List on Her Cell Phone During Reunion 3, But She’s Not One to Hold Grudges!) — NEWSFLASH! Keeping a List is the Definition of ‘Holding a Grudge’
Melissa: You need to sit back from it maybe and say ‘What am I doing wrong? Because why am I having an issue with everyone?’
Teresa: Oh, really!
Teresa: If you have a problem, say it to the person and be done with it. Like, don’t hold grudges. I don’t hold grudges.
Melissa: And I agree with that. I’m not a grudge holder at all. I’m a person, I quickly forgive. But maybe I can see one or two things, but if they’re saying there’s like a list and
Teresa: What list?
Melissa continues: People constantly have a list of (stops in mid sentence to respond to Teresa’s question).
Melissa: I don’t know.
Melissa continues: But they have a list: ‘OK, you did this to me, then you did this to me’.
Teresa: Someone got in her [Jacqueline's] head.
Melissa: Who’s someone?
Teresa: I don’t know! I don’t know.
Jacqueline in her Bravo blog claims that Teresa is holding a grudge about Kathy’s cookbook comments but in reality Teresa is simply trying to air out her grievances and give Kathy the opportunity to explain herself (she took her aside and voiced concern). The RV trip was Teresa’s first chance in person with just Kathy present to address her concerns regarding Kathy’s very public accusations that Teresa and her mother stole Kathy’s mother’s recipes.
“Boy, Jacqueline, do we see things differently. Teresa telling Melissa what happened is not the same as holding a grudge. Holding a grudge is remaining angry directly with Kathy well after the confrontation. In Teresa’s direct interaction with Kathy, Kathy denied even using the word recipe, which apparently she did not. Rather she said she was just refering to the pictures of the cookies that were just like the cookies her mother used to make. The next day, when Teresa tells the story (most likely because she is still trying to understand Kathy’s intentions since Kathy was less than forthright), Melissa definitely takes Kathy’s side when she tells Teresa… “She said your mom called her mom for the recipe and then you put it in the book”. Obviously this is a complete contradiction to what Kathy said the night before when she insisted that she never even used the word recipe and she only meant to comment that those pictures of the cookies were like her mothers cookies. Poor Teresa, who can she trust. You say Melissa is trying to remain neutral, yet she seems to rely completely on the version of the story Kathy told her. I did not see Teresa act upset because Melissa was taking Kathy’s part. She seemed confused because Melissa’s version of Kathy’s story was so different than what Kathy herself said the night before to Teresa. Yet you feel for Kathy and Melissa, or at least the version of them you made up for yourself. And once again, Teresa is completely wrong and the other two are just high minded do gooders, perfect in there intentions much like you are. If you want the viewers to believe this you will have to tell us what you are drinking and how much so we can catch up and lose all perspective. Are there pills involved, because your view of things is pretty darn distorted. Enough about Teresa, tell us about you, your projects that are keeping you so busy. What are they specifically. Besides the whirlwind that is the marketing of BLK. Unfortunately a lot of the viewers live in the same country you do. You might want to walk back some of your claims of how well it is doing. It might hurt your credibility, and we do not want to burst that perfect bubble of denial you live in.” – littlewitch, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Jacqueline, why are you commenting on something that is really none of your business. Ummm taking sides. It’s clear to see because you dislike Teresa: you are automatically on “the other side”. I feel (just my opnion) that was so rude of Kathy and yes passive agressive. My natural comment would be “my mom makes those also.” If I cringed when she said that, my gut instinct tells me it was wrong. And if she didn’t mean it in that way, why is she backpeddling to say Teresas mom called her mom to get the recipe? That would only make sense if she said that comment meaning it was her mom’s recipe, so why would she be covering her tracks. Teresa was upset; I think she handled herself well. She did not address it at Kathy’s dessert tasting, and she did address it at the beginning of the trip, openly and honestly. Kathy never mentioned that her mom gave the recipe to Teresa’s mom. As for telling Melissa, maybe she did want her take on it, and did hear what Melissa said. However, in the end, as a viewer, I felt Kathy was wrong and innapropriate, and getting it out in the open was the right thing for Teresa to do. I know Teresa never does anything right according to you!” – valgal62, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Jacqueline, would you please stop with the nasty tweets, blogs, comments, talking heads, private conversations on tape? Maybe then Teresa could stop holding her “grudge”? Doesn’t the word “grudge” imply that the issue is in the past? It can’t be in the past if you keep doing it. If Kathy would stop it with cookie talk behind Teresa’s back, it would go away. So Teresa isn’t your type of friend….does that mean you have to hate her?” – Parkview, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Jacqueline, I feel like I am watching someone who I want to shake and say PLEASE STOP. STOP WITH ALL OF THIS CRAZINESS. Isn’t there one person in your family, or one friend, that can pull you aside and set you straight. What I mean about setting you straight in your inability to be logical. Nothing you say makes sense. Your mind is stuck and what you say is not based in reality. You said you have been trying to convince Teresa for seasons to forgive, or not hold a grude. You act as if Teresa knew everything that was going to be said ahead of time… are you nuts?? Who are you to insist your mis-guided thoughts on anyone? You overlook everything and have set your mind on hating another person. You all sound nuts. You AND THE REST OF THE CAST KEEPS SAYING TERESA DOSEN’T WANT ANYONE TO DO WELL?? WHAT ABOUT DINA AND HER NEW SHOW. DINA is the only one that has her own show. Teresa has kept her friendship with her and supports her and tweets about her show… did anyone in your family do that? Even if you are not talking, you could show her support; so who has the problem?. Caroline is a mean-spirited person who, once has set her sights on someone to dislike — or even worse, hate — has no bounderies. She has no guilt. I do not believe that Teresa has done anything that would warrant so much hate. If someone or a friend hurts you, you move on; you do not go out and try to destroy them. Do you get that???? I want this to be over because I cannot wait for the reunion. I hope that Bravo realizes that this is not entertainment and that is why people are taking Teresa’s side. I would take anyone’s side who was being talked about and surrounded by so much negativity. It will only come back to all of you. You try to come across as sweet, innocent and wounded. What people are seeing is a mean hearted unbalanced woman. Please Bravo get rid of this dark energy that has turned into a witchhunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! – Vicgrca1, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Isn’t that exactly what Caroline did at the beginning of the season??? She talked to Teresa and was still upset about the book! Good Lord, this show is full of hypocrites. It’s too bad, because I used to really like it!” – kamara_lynn, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
It’s a double standard with this cast. All of them are permitted to whine and complain about Teresa and her transgressions, whether real or imagined (mostly imagined), from years ago, and then rehash them every day to anyone who will listen or any tabloid that will run with the story (as long as the cast can hide behind their true identities). But the minute Teresa addresses something that has just been brought to her attention (even though it many have occurred years earlier), she is holding a grudge. The hypocrisy of this cast is unbelievable!
By RHWvwr, Comment Made on Melissa’s Bravo Blog, ‘Breaking Down the Wall’
August 6, 2012
Okay, this is long but hopefully BRAVO grants me this respectful yet honest Brain Dump.
Melissa, these blogs carry so much animosity because we’re very aware of what you’ve done. It’s as simple and complex as that. The fact that you guys, Teresa’s “family,” are embracing their future devastation, perhaps jail time, with smugness and even anticipated glee is the sum of all the parts you brought with you. And there’s not a person out here who doesn’t know you are hoping for the worst case scenario for the Guidices because it will be public knowledge, and on our television screens, in our homes is where you play your game against Teresa for fame.
This is and was, the worst case of personal battery that I have not only ever heard of, but actually had to witness. I can’t even watch re-runs. I understand that sounds mundane, but I used to SO enjoy channel surfing if I happened to be home, and catching old RHW episodes, especially NJ because it was fun, glamorous and most importantly, left me happy. Then you joined. Now, I cannot stomach to watch these last two seasons a second time. Not a single episode. I can’t. The ONLY time I’ve enjoyed myself for the past two season’s is when Teresa has filmed scenes with Gia.
Gia’s “song” that she performed and the aftermath was so hard to wrap my brain around. And it’s because Teresa couldn’t fix the problem for her daughter who was in so much pain. Teresa COULDN’T because the problem, as defined by you guys, was a LIE.
Teresa keep saying let’s leave the past behind, but you and Joe COULDN’T because then you would have no storyline. Teresa was left scratching her head wondering why everyone was getting angrier, having no idea you were manipulating behind the scenes and working the talking head’s chairs to just crucify her, every– single– episode. If you had stopped like she wanted to, your conversations with the Wakiles and rest of the cast would have gone “off plan.” Your purpose and blueprint would have needed a new script, so you continued the manipulations to keep your storyline alive. When she wasn’t fighting back, you created more: Joe’s re-enacted scene telling you what Teresa said in private arched the entire season’s plot. Teresa tried to move on but you couldn’t let that happen or you were left with just ‘you,’ and you knew you needed the momentum of the “Teresa needs to be Ruined” storyline everyone was climbing on board with, especially after she created another best seller, or as you called it, “making some extra cash.”
THAT’S what happened Melissa, and that’s why we aren’t buying this “we are getting closer” blog. You already had the wheels in motion and you saw your future pop star career at the demise of your sister in law, and there was no stopping you.
Teresa couldn’t SAY what the problem was, what we all have come to learn IS the problem. She couldn’t say “Melissa wants to be famous more than she wants to breathe, and she’s so jealous of my spot on this show, she’s come on to unearth every family fracture and smear me to anyone who will listen because not only does that get her ON the show, it has the added GOAL of ruining me because she’s sat in a silent jealous STUPOR for two years while I’ve been famous!”
And she certainly couldn’t tell Gia what you were doing. So we all had to sit through the facade that ALL of this was Teresa and Joe’s strained relationship, knowing DARN WELL that you and your constant manipulations and paralyzing envy was what was causing GIA and her entire family so much pain.
Teresa finally tried to tell Jacqueline once she was faced with the truth about you and Danielle, but by then your easy plan of getting rid of Teresa and her success to make room had infected the entire cast. Had Teresa been a secondary character on this show, like a “Kathy,” and non threatening in competition, you would have been soo different, but you knew you needed to pull the trigger.
You gave yourself away at the beginning because why would you come on so defensive, guns blazing if you knew you didn’t mean any harm? You and Teresa had a strained relationship so, of course, Teresa wouldn’t welcome the idea of you on the show — who would? If you’ve used that excuse in your head to sleep at night you better buy some sleep aide.
Well, now I hope Teresa can just say what we all know, because THAT’S why she becomes so tongue tied — you have her trapped. She can’t explain away your actions without stating the above because you’ve masterly manipulated it under the guise of a brother/sister conflict. Baloney!
Teresa may be self absorbed, but there’s not a malicious bone in her body, even now after all you’ve done. Your Joe is a rotten man for going along with you, but he most likely STILL doesn’t know what he has in you. Kathy has shocked me the most after your Joe. She hopped on your ill-will and rode it for all she could get. She was pivotal in this plan and her eyes were wide open (no pun intended.) Richie is the sorriest man I have ever come across on a reality show. I could care less about his verbiage and juvenile behavior; I think that part of him is harmless. What isn’t harmless is trashing his wife’s cousin, a woman, on National TV for two years because he thinks she’s in the way of him making some big bucks off of his wife landing a role.
Joe Guidice has never sat in that chair like a HW and planned a personal smear. His “reality” rant was well deserved after watching his wife tortured at the hands of her family for two seasons. Teresa on her worst day has not attacked you all — she hasn’t and that drives you nuts. THAT’S why the fans are carrying her through this.
I understand you were miserable in that small town with your nemesis so huge in pop culture and starring on a show, but the way you crawled onto this show with zero considerations for Teresa, her girls or your in-laws has clearly defined you. I really don’t think you care: all I can hope is for karma to stop you in your tracks because that’s the ONLY thing that will reach someone like you.
Today they showed the top 20 moments in reunion history. You created Teresa’s hell before you even signed your contract. The reunion where she became so visibly upset and pushed Andy away (which I still think he harbors resentment) was because Danielle was using information YOU fed her to use on the reunion. She went ballistic when Danielle mentioned YOU because she didn’t want HER family’s name dragged through the mud. Isn’t that rich irony! I cannot believe you called Danielle to give her reunion “ammo.” Geez, did you watch the reunion on the edge of your chair at home waiting for your “moment?”
After that scene, how you THEN came on swinging makes you something I can’t even print. I’m beginning to rethink Danielle after watching you, and I hope she does pop up on the reunion to redeem herself. You used her Melissa. That scene is what spring boarded Caroline into her Danielle rant that made us all think Danielle was a monster. Now seeing how Caroline bullies, I’m beginning to think Danielle did not get a fair shake.
I do know how harsh this blog sounds but you’ve brought us here. No one wins here, least of all your nieces or in-laws. The only upside is you’ve made Teresa even larger. I’m sure bloggers will let me have it for being so vocal but we are very invested, because we are very angry. What you did was wrong and it was planned. And we’re stopping it. I just want my show back, and that will not happen until you are fazed out. Teresa may forgive, but the fans certainly won’t.
By mktgdrivethru,Comment Made on StoopidHousewives
July 31, 2012
Italian parents favor the son to point of insanity in some cases — the sun rises and sets on him — especially since Joe Gorga was the only son and the youngest (like my father) he was probably doted on by his mother and sister. Unfortunately, that distorted his view to the point where he thinks that the world should follow suit. Couple that with a singular lack of intelligence and there you have Joe Gorga. Remember, he had two or three failed engagements before hooking up with Melissa. I knew guys like him (and was briefly engaged to one) where they are not so much in love with the girl, but the IDEA of her — a whore in the bedroom, a chef in the kitchen and a mother to take care of his every need and breed. So basically, any (Italian) girl willing to adhere to those conditions would do.
Seems to me that he had an agenda — as did Melissa, whose reputation was not the best in those parts. And to old school parents, no woman is ever good enough for their prince — especially one who even Joe Gorga referred to as “the whore of Babylon” – – and now she is the mother of their grandkids.
So they (including Teresa) put up with her, but will never ever accept her. She knows it. He knows it. And it enrages him, as it goes against his distorted view THAT EVERYTHING HE DOES IS PERFECT. Hence, the “angel from God” comment. He truly believes that.
So now his sister has fame and attention and her husband is loved by their parents (being family friends from the same village) and worlds collide — all at his baby’s christening. So JoeGo reacts like Mount Vesuvius and feels completely justified in doing so. Make no mistake — this is not out of undying love and respect for his wife — he treats her no better than the whore of Babylon himself. No wonder the previous two fiancees ran.
Not that I am shedding any tears for Melissa — she is just as bad — set up as mommy and daddy’s special snowflake her whole life and only surrounds herself with people who worship at her altar. She is calculating and went into this with her eyes wide open, but also is nowhere near as clever or interesting as she thinks she is. She couldn’t fool the Gorgas into buying the sweet and innocent act — and most of the viewing audience isn’t fooled either.
Now as for Kathy — she is unfortunately typical of the jealousy that runs rampant in these too-close-knit almost clannish families. Their views are so insular, they cannot see the world beyond their own backyards. So in this world, Teresa was likely the most favored diva, attention-grabbing princess, and Kathy was forced to sit on the sidelines, making passive-aggressive comments to soothe her bruised ego. Now, she has her chance to sit at the cool kids table (as her gross nerd husband) and she is clinging to it like grim death. Kathy is also neither smart enough or interesting enough to hold her own, so she will be back at the stove soon enough.