“Danielle was NOT at the reunion but Kim D was! Kim D owns a boutique, and the season 4 finale will feature her glamorous Posche Fashion Show where Melissa gets called a stripper from her former manager [Angelo from Lookers]. That episode will show Joe Gorga swearing and disrespecting Kim D. My insider reveals that when the two are face to face at the reunion taping, Joe Gorga apologizes for the things he says to Kim D, but she isn’t having it! My insider reveals that Kim D also says she was later aware that Angelo was going to call Melissa a stripper; and she says she has an agenda with Melissa because, in the past, Melissa purposely promoted other boutiques and has bashed Kim D. Kim D says Teresa had nothing to do with Melissa’s former manager [at Lookers] calling Melissa out on being a dancer! Melissa’s former manager [at Lookers] Angelo Vrohidis has also denied Teresa had anything to do with it.” [AllAboutTRH EXCLUSIVE Details On What Went On At The Season 4 RHONJ Reunion!, September 9, 2012]
“Watching the episode brought back so many emotions. I was sick. It makes me want to stand in front of Teresa and scream at her. It makes my skin crawl… I was a bartender. Lookers [where she knew Angelo] was not even a strip club. There was no nudity. It was girls wearing bikinis. There were no lap dances, no back room. I wore black shorts, a white tank top and sneakers.” – Melissa Gorga, September 19, 2012, Us Weekly
By the way Melissa, you and I and many know that at Lookers even the bartenders dance. I should know! It’s called Bartender’s Royal…I have pay stubs. But I may of danced! Isn’t that where you really met Joe G who lol was a regular at Lookers & many others gogo bars in Linden…or as you say lol bikini bars. NO SUCH THING AS A BIKINI BAR. It’s called GOGO bar…Joe was a great tipper & loved the girls! Of course this is my opinion…“wink wink.” Right Joey G. Thanks for the shower. Meaning throwing money at the dancer. – Hailey, January 20, 2012 at 2:59 pm, AllAboutTRH
Was Melissa Gorga the ‘Dancer’ Wearing the Cross at Lookers in 2003?
The following forum discussion in 2003 by patrons of Lookers mentions a dancer with a “fake chest” who “wears a cross around her neck.” This dancer could be Melissa Marco Gorga and, if so, then she definitely danced off the clock at Lookers in addition to bartending on the clock.
From NLSociety Forum [Warning - some of the language is crude]:
Started by GuidoMASTER, Nov 17 2003 11:41 PM
Posted 17 November 2003 – 11:41 PM
in there wear a cross around there neck while playing with themselves in front of me, makes me feel shaddy stuffing 5 bucks down your fake chest with Jesus right there watching. Anyone else feel weird when this happens? That place had some of the hottest, most sexiest dancers I have seen in years. Where do they come from? Why don’t the girls I hang out with look like that? HOLYSHIT. Its amazing what cosmetic surgery could do. Place is full of Catholic girls. Place is GREAT.
Posted 18 November 2003 – 12:56 AM
I agree…Lookers does have some of the best talent in the area. The cross necklace is kinda weird, but no where near as bad as a wedding ring. Why the *beep* would I wanna give a married chick $$$ when she’s only bringing it home to her family????? Then I realize I’m only there to have fun w/ my buddies…who gives a *beep* if she looks good and entertains you?
Posted 17 November 2003 – 11:52 PM
That has to be one of the hottest strip clubs in NJ. No doubt they have the hottest girls in there. The only problem with that place is, the girls don’t ever *beep* stop coming around looking for money. It is like a conveyer belt, it just never stops. I like the more shady strip clubs……
Posted 18 November 2003 – 12:42 AM
are they completely nude?? or just topless???
Posted 18 November 2003 – 12:48 AM
Neither……..They sell alcohol…
Posted 18 November 2003 – 12:49 AM
so then what do they do….???
Posted 18 November 2003 – 12:51 AM
They have thongs and bras or other outfits…….
Posted 18 November 2003 – 12:53 AM
but they play with themselves in front of guys??? i thought girls only did that at strip clubs…and why do u give them money if they have clothes on??
Posted 18 November 2003 – 01:00 AM
so basically they just dance in underwear for you at this place and make a lot of money….sh*t i could do that!!
Posted 18 November 2003 – 12:56 AM
I never saw that at Lookers…Some girl playing with herself.
Posted 18 November 2003 – 02:51 AM
Posted 18 November 2003 – 01:09 AM
and if you wanna dance, I’m sure something can be worked out when we get there with the Mgr.
Photos from Lookers’ Facebook Page:
Melissa has threatened to sue people for calling her a stripper, but she has not made the same threat for calling her a dancer. Lookers’ girls don’t strip: they dance around in thongs and bras or other outfits while selling cocktails. So it’s really just semantics, and she is telling the truth when she says she wasn’t a stripper… If they don’t take their clothes off and wear lingerie the whole time, then they’re not truly stripping, they’re ‘dancing.’
How Did Joe and Melissa Gorga Meet?
Here’s what Teresa knows (from RHONJ season 3 episode 6): Melissa started dating Joe in October 2003, moved in with him in December 2003, and married him in August 2004. In RHONJ season 3 episode 6, Joe tells the the story of how they met in Cancun, and he says she was working three jobs at the time. Melissa was working at Lookers in 2003 (she worked there the entire year, according to her ‘pay register’, even though she said that she was “a bartender for a couple of months years ago, it was such a short time”), so she was working at Lookers when Joe met and dated her.
Prior to releasing her Lookers’ ‘pay register’ in December 2011 (which showed she worked at Lookers the full 2003 calendar year) to prove she was only a bartender not a dancer, Gorga said on her website on September 30, 2011:
“I did bartend for a few weeks at a bikini bar while I was in college. My outfit was a tank top, shorts and sneakers… Even if I had been a dancer, I do not know why anyone would care 10 years later.” [Melissa Gorga, Her Website, September 30, 2011]
In her Bravo blog on April 30, 2012, she changed her story to fit with the time frame of the pay register she released, which show that she worked at Lookers for the full 2003 calendar year:
“I put myself through college with the help of my godfather and worked three jobs doing it. I was substitute teaching, working in a tanning salon, and bar tending one night a week.” [Melissa Gorga, Like a Prayer, April 30, 2012]
A few weeks earlier, on April 12, 2012, Melissa was interviewed by one of her favorite blogs, Reality Tea. She said Joe Gorga used to come see her when she was a bartender at Lookers Gentleman’s Club while in college.
In season 4 episode 20, filmed on September 27, 2011, she said on camera that she worked at Lookers less than a week, and hated it.
In an interview with Ryan Seacrest in June 2011, Joe claims to have first seen her in a leopard bikini in Cancun (a source said this was during Spring Break, which would have been in March 2003 – see below, “Melissa Gorga ‘Settled’ For Joe”) but that he didn’t even speak to her (even though he said to himself ‘that’s my wife). He claims that he randomly ran into her six months later in a club at the Jersey shore (which would have been October 2003). If he said to himself in Cancun, ‘that’s my wife’, why didn’t he approach her then; it doesn’t make sense at all to say that but not try to actually meet her (how did he expect to make her his wife if he didn’t even introduce himself to her… how would he know that he’d ever run into her again… supposedly he didn’t even know who she was, where she was from or what was her name). It seems more likely that he introduced himself to her in Cancun and they hung out but she blew him off because he was “too short and not her type.” And it wasn’t until six months later, back in New Jersey, that she finally gave in to his persistence after seeing “he was a hard working man with money in his pocket, a nice home, and she could easily manipulate him.”
“I was in Cancun. I was sitting in the pool and I had a girl on the right and a girl on the left. They were fighting over me. Kissing one, kissing the other one. As I was doing the turn, I saw this girl across the pool, curly hair, leopard bikini, sunglasses. I look over to my best friend while I’m holding these two girls and say ‘that’s my wife’.” However, they did not even speak while in Cancun. It wasn’t until they got back to New Jersey that they randomly met. “We were out, we were down at a beach club and he came up to me and said ‘you’re the girl form the pool,’ he was persistent. It took him a couple of times, I didn’t give him my number right a way,” Melissa says. “He freaked me out a bit, he told me what I had on, the hotel I was at, the sunglasses I had on, he remembered how my hair was.”
In May 2011, Melissa told a similar story to NorthJersey.com. Here’s an excerpt:
Their paths first crossed during a spring break in Cancún. “He saw me … and he looked at his best friend and said, ‘That’s gonna be my wife,’ ” says Gorga, who adds that when they ran into each other back in Jersey, “he came over to me and said, ‘I saw you in your leopard bikini in Cancún.’ I said, ‘Well, why didn’t you talk to me?’ He said, ‘Well, you didn’t look like you wanted to talk.’ And it went from there.”
In July 2012, Melissa told the story again, but claimed she was 21 when they first met at Spring Break in Cancun, which would have been March 2000, but this is obviously is a lie since she then goes on to say they met again back in New Jersey in the summer, which both she and Joe claim was in 2003:
“Originally we saw each other on Spring Break in Cancun, we were so young! I was there for my 21st birthday and he was 25 and everyone from New York and New Jersey would always go to Cancun for Spring Break. We were both there and he was there with his friends and he says that I went walking by with my girlfriends and my bikini, and he remembers everything that I was wearing like it was yesterday. He pointed to me and said, ‘That’s going to be my wife’. His best friend that was with him confirmed this story all the time, so that was kind of the first time we met unofficially. Then we were back in New Jersey in the summer at a Beach Club and he saw me and it just went from there.”
They married in 2004, less than a year after meeting in 2003 when she was 24, so her timeline doesn’t add up because three years didn’t lapsed between the time he first saw her in Cancun and the time he ran into her again in the summer at the Jersey shore.
“It was one of those things that we went out on a first date and we saw each other every day after. We both just knew, we were at the age when we were ready to settle down. I was graduating college and he was 28 and he was done partying, so it was a good time for us really. It was instant, we were engaged six months after we met and we were married four months later, so within a year we were married. It was one of the things where I think a lot of people wait because when you’re younger you don’t have the money for the house or the wedding, but we were fortunate in that regard and it just worked for us.”
She said she ‘was graduating’ college when they married in 2004, so she didn’t graduate until she was 24. Just a couple months prior to this interview, she told Reality Tea (April 12, 2012 article above), that she couldn’t remember the year she graduated college, which was the year she married, according to this July 2012 interview. She was lying to Reality Tea (of course she remembers—it was the same year she got married!) because she knew her timeline didn’t add up.
From AllAboutTRH’s post, “Melissa Gorga ‘Settled’ for Joe:”
“Yes you met him on spring break, but you didn’t give him the time of day and said he was too short and not your type. Joe was persistent though, I’ll give him that. Once you saw he was a hard working man with money in his pocket, nice home, and can easily manipulate him, you locked him in.”
From a source at AllAboutTRH:
“You have pulled Teresa and Joe away from each other by manipulating his own thinking. When is enough enough? You were nothing more then a simple girl who wore imitation clothing to try to fit in or always wore the pink fuzzy sweater everywhere you went. You targeted only men with money and did anything for them to gain their acceptance. You ‘stalked’ Tommy the Greek from Marlboro, NJ, and did whatever he wished even though you knew he was using you. You even went to the extreme of following him in nightclub bathrooms. His family didn’t except you and you ‘settled’ for Joe because of the home he lived in. Joe comes from a proud Italian, old fashioned family with morals and values. But you managed to manipulate his mind and because his family is supportive, you were excepted.”
This goes back to Teresa at the reunion insisting that Melissa told her:
“I wasn’t stupid like my sisters; of course when I saw his house I was going to jump on that shit.”
Melissa and Kathy attacked Teresa: Kathy claiming she said something other than that (but not actually denying that she said that as well) and Melissa denying it ever happened. Teresa then said: “The truth comes out when you’re drinking.”
Above is a photo of the home in Franklin Lakes where Joe was living when he met Melissa in October 2003 (he bought the lot in 2001 and built the home in 2002-2003). He sold it to LaVar Arrington (formerly of the Washington Red Skins and NY Giants) for $2.45 million in 2006 (for a profit well over $1 million, which is how he was able to buy the lot and build the mansion in Montville); LaVar resold it at a significant loss for $1.75 million in 2008.
On April 30, 2012, in her Bravo blog, The Teresa Apology Tour, Teresa Giudice addressed the rumors she heard about Melissa and explained in more detail her concerns that Melissa Gorga is a gold-digger:
“As for the whole ‘gold digger’ thing with Melissa, I’m very protective of my only brother. He was engaged two times before Melissa, and I hated seeing his heart broken every time things didn’t work out. After that, he did date a lot of women who were interested in him for all the wrong reasons. So when he and Melissa were dating, she was at dinner with my family and she made a comment about how when she saw my brother’s house and how well he was doing, she wasn’t stupid, that she wasn’t going to let him go. From our family’s history with actual gold diggers, you can imagine it wasn’t a great thing to hear. She probably said it from nerves and trying to be funny, but it rubbed me the wrong way.
“We live in a small town. I heard things about the type of guys Melissa dated before my brother, and I hear things I don’t like now. I pray they aren’t true. I hope my brother and Melissa stay married forever! I never should have brought it up on the show last season though, and I’m sorry. And I’ve learned not to bring up my concerns to my brother publicly or privately! It was a hard lesson, but I’ve learned it.”
‘Melissa’s Former Friend’ on March 1, 2012 at 4:19 pm said on AllAboutTRH.com:
You’re such a lying sack of sh*t. You were bragging to all how you want to take Teresa down way before you begged your way on the show. Top of everything else, Penny [Drossos Karagiorgis] now owns the same salon you went to and had your whole bridal party done at. Oh, you don’t remember or you’re just good at playing stupid? You are good at playing stupid!
Save your sh*t you pink sweater wearing, fake name brand wearing, Tommy Stalking, lap dancing, blow for blow bitch. We all know your lying pathetic ass. How was the Sushi Lounge 3 years ago? Who did you meet there? Did you tell Joe you were serving the Sushi? Lol.
You’re a joke and we are all lining up when Penny gets on to really put your bullsh*t ass On Display and on blast.
You were nothing more then a handoff from Joe’s friends, wasn’t he third in line? Love at first sight my ass. Yea he saw you in Cancun while his and your friends had “fun” from the very first day, but you wanted nothing to do with him until he caught up with you at Lookers with one of his friends you were actually going out with. Another joke. F*cking hand me down.
Then you found out he had money and you went on the prawl. Shall I continue? Nah, I’ll save it for when Penny gets on the show and one at a time we’ll be getting our hair done by Penny and Robert and exposing everything. Oh, you remember Robert don’t you? Lol, Season 5 will be interesting.
NM said on June 17, 2012, The Truth About Melissa Gorga and Her Bravo Audition Tape, at The Fame-Whorgas:
This was fantastic! I knew many of these facts but could not talk about them. The police report on Joe Gorga is the truth. Kathy also has 2 siblings with police records. I wish they would come to light. Heather Robinson is dying to get on the HWs. That’s why they brought her in for the hot-tub scene with Kathy’s sister. Melissa is very jealous of Heather. Joe Gorga called Kim D a Coke whore. Look at your own wife’s family JoeG & your cousins’ PD reports about drugs. We all live near each other. Albie & Greggy ARE VERY close! Caroline’s family is a complete mess. More needs to be exposed. This was a fantastic read. Thank you! Search hard and you will find the other police records. There is so much more that is hidden. #Fact – YOU’RE an open target when you become a public figure on The Telly! Teresa, you are a class act my dear. See you at your book signing. Melissa, I have had many a lunch dates with your sisters…Stop all the lies!…You never know how people talk when catching a buzz. Rich, you’re a slumlord…How’s the gas station doing? Caroline, I’m very glad Lauren got a lap-band. She’s very beautiful. Sad you trashed her on national TV. Wonder who I am? Don’t bother to send your investigators, I talk to you every week. Hmmmm…
Hailey says on April 25, 2012 at 8:38 am said on AllAboutTRH.com:
I said it before. Kathy has many family skeletons in her closet about her family! It will come out! Mel’s family has many also. All will come to light soon enough! Let’s all hear about the siblings of Kathy that she hides. Mel, your sisters and their husbands are pure drunks!
How Do Penny Drossos and Melissa Gorga Know Each Other?
Radio Interview with Penny Drossos of Bravo’s ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ on WTBQ-FM, April 11, 2012:
“Penny has a long history with Melissa, and knew Melissa long before her housewife days. In fact, when Melissa was casted for RHONJ, she actually called Penny [who she was not on good terms with her at the time] to boast.” [author unknown, anonymous e-mail published at StoopidHousewives.com]
“[Penny Drossos Karagiorgis], a well-educated former teacher turned businesswoman, was never a fan of Melissa ever since the self-proclaimed ‘Christian’ worked as a stripper at her family-owned strip club [Lookers Gentlemen’s Club]. Melissa must have never took a moment to think about her own skeletons when she made it her mission to …destroy Teresa Giudice… Joe did not meet Melissa in the romantic way of which they self-promote. Moreover, Joe Gorga was not even the man who Melissa was truly out for. In fact, the man who Melissa obsessed over [Tommy the Greek from Marlboro, NJ] was a very good friend of Penny’s, who Melissa tried to strategically use to receive the approval of the man and his family… Any educated human being would think Melissa has some sort of psychological disorder for passive aggressively going after the one woman who knows more about her than she probably knows about herself… The narcissistic Melissa and Joe Gorga may be coming after the Karagiorgis family in hopes that their bullying tactics will shut them up like it did Tre. However, this family is not stupid, nor desperate, and they know everything about Melissa from the manager who purchased her breast implants down to the hardcore d***s ‘Missy’ and Joe Gorga used in the same party environment that their children were present in [multiple times].”
The family’s twitter handles [where one can view the side of the tweet war which was not deleted] are as follows: @PDKHair, @JohnnyTheGrk, @WillLoveInc.
NOTE: There is much more to this email. The email contained “facts” which, if true, would certainly explain WHY Melissa and Tree’s relationship is so fractured. And… if these “facts” are true, it would only confirm what Tree has been saying all along about WHY Miss Andy/Bravo/NJ Producers EVER pursued Melissa as a Housewife.
According to StoopidHousewives:
“The sender of the email included Will Love, Penny Drossos and Johnny Karagiorgio’s twitter accounts… read the original Melissa-bashing email sent to SH…HERE. StoopidHousewives called Penny’s salon in November 2011, as the salon name was included in the email. SH spoke briefly with a stunned Penny… obviously, she never expected a phone call! SH was told by Penny that she could not talk about anything! Penny did not confirm nor deny that she was the author of the email; Penny neither confirmed nor denied knowing the author of the email.”
Because of her Bravo contract for her part in season 4, Penny Drossos Karagiorgis cannot disclose all she knows about filming at her hair salon (Salon La Chateau Allure) and at the Posche Fashion Show on September 27, 2011. Here are her tweets prior to the above radio interview:
Penny Drossos @PDKHAIR
@oldnjlady yes unless it’s things pertaining to this season I can’t get into detail to do the contract I signed
In reply to Meagan Paige
Monday, April 9, 2012
Penny Drossos @PDKHAIR
@OldNJlady I promise this week I will answer anything u guys ask me !! Give me till Wednesday when I’m off ..promise
In reply to OldNJLady
Monday, April 9, 2012
Ilana Angel of the Jewish Journal interviewed Penny Drossos in early June 2012. Click here for the interview.
‘What a Joke’ on March 8, 2012 at 2:38 pm said at AllAboutTRH.com:
You know what’s funny about this whole Melissa bullsh*t, she’s still screwing around with a few of my boys from Bayonne, and Johnny The Greek knows everyone. My wife got me hooked on this HW crap, and now that Johnny and his wife Penny are gonna get on season 5, sh*t’s gonna hit the fan. Johnny knows all the boys: those still hitting it, those that are “away” that hit it, and those she gave it up for special items. Melissa is a ho & Joe is a clown. They’re screwed once Johnny & Penny get on.
‘The Source’ on April 9, 2012 at 9:33 pm said at AllAboutTRH.com:
Are you f*cking kidding me Melissa? Does this advice [include] meeting your ex at Sushi Lounge 2 years ago? Or your other ex’s in Bayonne or Lyndhurst?