Monica Chacon, Kim G, Kim Hiza and Tom Murro’s Connection to the Gorgas and Wakiles and to Each Other

September 4, 2013

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Kim G and Monica Chacon sat at a table with Kathy, Melissa and Melissa’s sisters at the Posche fashion show (PFS) in season 3 episode 2 (photos below). This was at the very beginning of the Gorgas’ and Wakiles’ first season – how did they get so close to Kim G so quickly? Because they had known her for a while, although earlier in the same episode Melissa and Kathy pretended to have met her for the first time at the Posche boutique (first photo below), where Kim G said to them about Teresa, “She doesn’t know who she’s messing with,” and neither of them defended Teresa or were shocked by the statement.

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When Teresa saw Kim G sit down at Melissa’s table at the PFS, she asked Jacqueline and Caroline: “Why is Kim G talking to my sister-in-law? It’s just weird that my sister-in-law’s friends with her.”

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In the same episode (season 3 episode 2), before the PFS, Kim G came over to Melissa’s home (photo below), and they went clubbing on Halloween, Kathy included – Melissa and Kathy talked smack about Teresa with Kim G the entire time.

Bob and Kim Hiza are mortgage brokers who were credited in season 3 as being the Gorgas’ accountants, but in reality Bob Hiza co-owns with Joe Gorga at least 10 low-end properties in Paterson, NJ.

The Gorgas and Wakiles dined with the Hizas in their home during season 3 episode 6, at which time they talked about the Giudices’ bankruptcy – the Hizas snarked on their impending remediation auction and called Teresa “rude,” while Kathy commented on Teresa’s shopping habits by saying, “Mindless spending will catch up with you eventually.”

Kim Hiza, Kim G and Monica Chacon attended the Gorgas’ 2010 Christmas party in season 3 episode 10 (photos below). The producers invited Monica and Kim G unbeknownst to the Giudices but Melissa was fully aware that they would be attending, even though she feigned knowing Monica at the time. Teresa became upset that Monica was there because earlier that day she had a confrontation with her at the courthouse during a break in a fraud case that Juicy’s former business partner had filed against him.

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“Teresa’s bankruptcy was exposed by Danielle at the 1st Posche fashion show when she said Teresa’s house was in foreclosure (Melissa, Kim G or Monica fed Danielle this information, which was a lie). After that episode aired, the wave of articles on the web and in the magazines started. Monica Chacon, whose husband was the lawyer representing Joe Giudice’s partner, fed a lot of dirt to Kim G; she, in turn, fed it to Danielle and the bloggers. When they were ready to film season 3, Teresa was forced to talk about it because the producers invited Monica to the 2nd Posche Fashion show (season 3 episode 2 – she sat with Melissa and her sisters) and the Gorgas’ Christmas party (season 3 episode 10 – she came with Kim G). Remember when Monica introduced herself to Melissa and Kathy as the lawyer suing Teresa. Let’s not forget, the Wakiles and the Gorgas were asked to be on the show if they would address Teresa’s personnel finances.” [Lee, May 15, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com]

“We [Melissa and I] did never meet; however, it was because I wouldn’t allow that to happen. She wanted to film during season 2, and she thought it would be a good way to get back at Teresa. And I said I wanted absolutely monica 3nothing to do with that; however, I would forward all her e-mails, which were a lot, to the producers, which I did. Which is how, after two seasons of her being behind the scenes — on camera but behind the scenes — she all the sudden became a person of interest and that’s how she landed on the show. Um, I think that it would be good for her to just come clean. I wanted nothing to do with what she wanted to do to Teresa. It’s not my place. I don’t play with that. Karma has a return policy and it isn’t an exchange.” [Danielle Staub, WWHL, September 9, 2013]

No matter how intelligent you try to come across in your blogs, I cannot get over how you allow other people to dog and disrespect your family, mainly Teresa & her husband (season 3 episode 6, dinner at the Hizas’). First, in Poshe you allowed Kim to talk about Teresa and didn’t defend your cousin, and then again in last night’s episode you sat by idly as the Hizas talked about Teresa and her problems – only her brother had the decency to defend the honor of his family, while you and Melissa just sat there complacently while these two business associates/”friends” tried to snicker about the Guidice’s personal affairs. Many viewers have made this observation and I will reiterate it too – you and Melissa are both probably great women in your own right. But neither of you are doing yourselves favors by trashing your family on TV – just makes you look bad. Looks bad in your blogs too. Keep the skeletons in your closet – and when in public, put on good face about your family. We all have family problems, all of us, but I would never allow strangers or business associates to dog my family in front of my face like that – makes YOU look bad, not the Giudices. [ColoradoViewer, Kathy’s Bravo blog, June 20, 2011]

The worst thing about Melissa is that she’s dumb in a boring way, not a funny way (aside from the “wench like me” line, which was even funnier because she sang it!). Melissa clearly needs this conflict to continue if she wants a storyline, though, and she drives me crazy when she fusses that Teresa doesn’t care, insists Joe get it sorted out, and then rebuffs any apologies. Maybe she wants Teresa to apologize while hooked to a polygraph. The only solution she desires is unconditional acceptance of her, and that won’t work either. Sometimes there’s only room for one tacky bitch per family, and Teresa got there first. Melissa will have to settle for being the tacky bitch-in-waiting. Maybe Kim Hiza didn’t need a plate of food because she feasts on the miseries of others? [foucault, TWP, June 20, 2011]

The following are Kim Granatell’s tweets directed at Teresa after the 39-count federal indictment was handed down on July 29, 2013.

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Kim G's Tweets

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  1. Sparkles
    September 4, 2013 at 4:46 AM

    Disgusting people.
    That’s pathological hatred right there not just I don’t like my husbands family.

    • GPM
      September 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

      I had very much the same thought, that this goes beyond TSIL and Granny Pants being jealous of Teresa’s TV show celebrity to what appears to be a truly sick and unbalanced state of mind.

      I think mentally healthy people are naturally repelled by this kind of behavior and the reason for that is simply a matter of biology; the ability to sense that there’s something really, really wrong with these people is hardwired in us as human beings. These people are so damaging; they’re a virtual wrecking crew to any life they touch, even peripherally.

      I feel very sorry for Teresa since it was her brother who brought TSIL into her life, making her largely inescapable. The damage TB has done to his family is breathtaking.

    • Buck Henry
      September 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM

      Don’t worry, the fed have their eyes on the Lauritas and much more. I’ve always said that it’s truly weird that the Fed hasn’t pressed charges on the Lauritas over the money they bled fro that company, discovery or not. I think they are building a major rico case against them and others and are buying their time until it’s time to lay the hammer down on them.

      • September 4, 2013 at 1:20 PM

        i hope its not bc they providing info on ter and thats why theyre being offered protection for their own crimes.
        melissa and joe have said mulitple times on the show that juicy showed them how to flip homes, ect
        if this is how juicy was doing it, then gorga did it this way too probably
        although again, if gorga is ratting ter out, then he will be offered protection against his crimes possibly.

        • Have2Say
          September 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM

          Also, what about all the docs Joe Gorga did regarding the parents home and how many times that crossed hands and the exaggerated worth amount. They also bled that for all the pennies they could. Why aren’t the feds looking into that? Right there are lies and mail fraud also.

        • xjrsygrl7733
          September 5, 2013 at 9:35 AM

          Yes that’s exactly what I think. The Manzos, Lauritas, Gorgas & the Wakiles all have lawsuits pending now. But you only see the Giudices on MSM! I think the Lauritas & Manzos & maybe the Wakiles have all given info on the Giudices to be offered a better deal in their own lawsuits! And Yes Joe Gorga did work with all of the same people as Juicy & JoeG learned about real estate from Joe Giudice. They were great together before Melissa came around! There were no problems in the family until 2003 when Joe Met Melissa! Both Joes worked together & they loved each other. Joe Gorga has absolutely been one of the people ratting on the Giudices which is why you never hear about JoeG’s lawsuits & all the money he owes to many people! It is all so sick! People are happy about the ruin of a family with 4 little girls! And really, who cares if they defrauded the Government. Most of the people in this country have defrauded the Gov at some point. People are acting like the Giudices are murderers! At least they don’t have Assault charges like Jacqueline, Chris & JoeG!

          By xjrsygrl7733
          August 27, 2013

          I came into some interesting information while I was in Jersey this weekend. I can’t say who I had this meeting with but it is someone close to Monica Chacon – the disgusting lawyer [and real estate title examiner] who has ruined the Giudices.

          Okay here goes…

          This women I was speaking to told me that when the first season of RHONJ aired and Teresa became the breakout star, her sister-in-law Melissa and her lovely brother Joe began contacting Monica Chacon and Kim Granatell. Melissa and Joe and the Marco sisters were the ones feeding Monica all the dirt on the Giudices’ finances!!!

          Melissa did the same thing to Danielle but she didn’t take the bait. Monica Chacon did.

          During season 3 when Melissa tried to pretend she didn’t know Monica, it was just to hide the fact that she DID know her! For years Melissa and Joe Gorga told Monica everything the Giudices did. When they got mortgages, when they were building on, when they went shopping and bought expensive clothes and furniture, when Teresa had appearances and if she got paid for them!

          Monica and Kim were compiling all of this information to make a case against the Giudices for fraud!

          It was Melissa who has done all of this to Teresa! She was the one telling them the house was in foreclosure and that the Giudices lied on taxes and mortgage applications and that Teresa made more money than she was admitting to.

          All of this shadiness was going on during seasons 1 and 2 and then on season 3 there was the devil herself… Melissa!! She then preceded to play victim and act like Teresa did something wrong to her when it was the Gorgas who purposefully lied to Monica and Kim to take Teresa down!!

          The Gorgas have known this whole time that there was a case being made against his own sister to put her in jail. WHO DOES THAT TO HIS SISTER and NIECES!!!!!!! The Gorgas fed all of this info to Monica Chacon and Kim Granatell! And half of what Melissa told Monica was not even true.

          Monica’s husband is the one suing the Giudices, and it was Melissa and Joe who were telling Monica and Kim G about the Giudices’ finances. Melissa did the same thing with Danielle Staub and wanted to film with her. She told Danielle about Teresa’s finances and that her house was in foreclosure.

          Kim G was on the show in the first two seasons, and Monica made her appearance in season 3 at the Gorga’s party when Melissa denied knowing her, but Monica said she knew Melissa and Joe.

          Melissa also told Monica about the magazine articles and said Teresa gets paid for them. I was also told that Joe Giudice’s ex business partner, who filed a suit first and was represented by Monica’s husband, was also in cahoots with Melissa and Joe Gorga. The Gorgas went to the business partner (Joe Mastropole) and that’s how they met Monica and told her they would help her take the Giudices down!! Then low and behold suddenly Melissa got cast on the show!!!

          Someone needs to look into Monica Chacon and needs to report her for her illegal practices as a lawyer. If I knew how to go about that I would do it myself. These people make me sick! There are four little girls who need their parents!

          Monica Chacon should be disbarred since she constantly breaks client confidentiality! She talks about the Giudices’ case all over Jersey to whoever will listen, which, I think, is not what a lawyer is supposed to do. Finding out this information has made my head spin, but I also know it is completely true. It makes complete sense about how Monica Chacon came upon all this info about the Giudices.

          Melissa was trying anything she could do to get on the show and bring Teresa down!

          Melissa was spilling financial info to Monica about the Giudices, as well, so more info was out that Monica could go after them for.

          I know these people and I know what they are about. The point is, Melissa denied knowing Monica when she came to her party, but for over two years she was in contact with her telling her everything she could about what the Giudices were doing.

          Melissa stalked the producers for years trying to get on, and contacted anyone she knew who did not like Teresa – Danielle, Kim G, Monica, the ex business partner etc.…That’s why Bravo finally cast her, because she said she would bring Teresa down!

          They knew Monica’s husband was suing the Giudices on behalf of Juicy’s business partner, so they were in contact with her even though the Gorgas denied knowing her. Melissa told Monica and Kim the same things she told Danielle. These were things going on behind the scenes.

          Why do you think Bravo had Kim and Monica go to Melissa’s party season 3? Bravo was fully aware of all the people Melissa had contacted trying to get on the show! Danielle, Monica, Kim G and probably many others. Both Monica and Kim G both said in interviews that they did indeed know Melissa but Melissa kept denying knowing them. She was feeding info to Monica and Juicy’s ex business partner – the business partner (Joe Mastropole) who also was working with Joe Gorga during the time he was suing the Giudices!

          Monica has been on TV and in magazines talking about the Giudices and their court cases. She also talks about them all over Jersey.

          The whole thing has been a set up, with Teresa’s cast mates and her brother and SIL all in on it from the beginning. That’s why Caroline and Jacqueline wouldn’t stop talking about the magazine articles, and if she gets paid or not, or what she has bought recently.

          Why isn’t the prosecutor filing charges against the Lauritas, Gorgas and Wakiles? They all have stolen more money from the government than anyone else. The Lauritas stole $300 million from their company. Where’s the justice for them?

          The Gorgas and Giudices worked with all the same people along the way and they both know each others business. The Gorgas were giving info to Monica so she could find the evidence to make a case against the Giudices.

          Melissa and Joe were in contact with Monica and the ex business partner. There was already a lawsuit against the Giudices, and during that time they would hand over tidbits of info so that Monica could then go look for hard evidence.

          – end xjrsygrl7733’s comments from August 27, 2013

      • September 5, 2013 at 1:24 AM

        Who else are they looking at?

      • September 5, 2013 at 5:25 PM

        But is anyone checking out Chacon and Kim G’s input on this? and is there any illegality there?

      • LVgrl
        September 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM

        So, Laurita/Gorga/Jgreek assault court case was postponed today to Sept. 26th. Anybody know why the delay? Would NJ b waiting 4 feds 2 indite Laurita’s on the $300mil fraud case? Takes a special kinda person 2 live w.themselves after BKing so many vendors. We nevr saw much of Eve’s Fetish line of clothes after that. She must b fuming waiting 4 a case 2 proceed. Just like all of us. I feel bad 4 her & JZ (&banks/credit cards/dr’s/limos/airlines/etc…) Realy hard 2 wrap ur head around!

    • September 4, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      IS THERE ANYWAY TO GET THIS INFO OUT TO THE PUBLIC?

      • Rudy
        September 5, 2013 at 12:08 AM

        Has anyone tweeted Teresa the link??? I am so pissed off right now. Then she can forward it to her attorney……

        • Jack Hole
          September 5, 2013 at 7:22 PM

          this is a super great idea…but I don’t know how to work my twitter!!! hopefully one of the pros will see this and agree! I doubt this could result in any legal action against anyone, but at the very least start opening her eyes…?

    • jennacheryl
      September 4, 2013 at 8:10 PM

      How can you hate anyone this much? MeHO has 3 gorgeous babies focus on them, focus on your family. Despicable people. As for Joey no words none. This is a family that needs Church and GOD. I will say a prayer for this so called “family”. I hope for T’s sake this is a lie or she never finds out

      • MonkeyFighting
        September 5, 2013 at 8:58 AM

        Jealousy is a weird thing& makes people do crazy things! It’s beyond sick & twisted!!
        This is below disgusting if Gorgas had anything to do w this! I think Meho is in way over her head and opened up to wrong people..how do these people sleep @ night? How do they even look into the mirror @ themselves ? Truly most disturbing story yet ! Karma will hit Gorgas harder as what goes around comes right back around.

      • xjrsygrl7733
        September 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        I think Teresa knows. I think she has been suspicious ever since Monica & KimG came to Melissa & Joe’s Party season 3. Monica was saying she has been trying to take the Giudices down for a long time & KimG was saying certain things about finances & what not. Melissa tried to deny inviting them but Monica said she knew Melissa. And also Teresa knew it was Melissa contacting Danielle & telling her things about Teresa’s finances as well. Some of things Danielle said were also things that KimG or Monica said at one point or another. They all got the same info from the same person………Melissa!

        • September 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

          xjrsygrl7733 please say that Rosie is not involved in all this. I know reality shows are not real but she does come across as pretty authentic.

          • xjrsygrl7733
            September 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM

            I don’t know Rosie at all but I have never heard her name involved in anything. I don’t think she would have anything to do with it. She would probably be horrified if she knew the truth about everything. The thing is, I think it would be obvious to everyone if they really think about everything that has happened since season 2 when Danielle brought up T’s nephew. Melissa lied about talking to Danielle than had to admit it because Danielle had proof. She denied inviting or even knowing Monica Chacon but when Mel went up to Monica at the party she said “Oh yeah, I think I met you at so & so..” She was again caught but tried to play it off like she had maybe met her but it was only once. She knew her & KimG. Melissa is crazy manipulative.

        • September 5, 2013 at 4:09 PM

          It is amazing that you found all this information out. The contacts you must have is flabbergasting. Thank you for sharing.
          I do not get why Melissa is so jealous I mean she has her own attributes right????
          I so do not understand why Melissa would hate her so much. My sil was not my biggest fan and tried to pull some stunts. I am very upfront and (I hate to say confrontational) but I will address a situation and I did. My sil was trying to solidify her place as favorite daughter in law I did not care either way as I am comfortable in my skin so I went to my mother and my mother-in-law (she was trying to start #$%* between them, knowing I would always back my mom) so I forewarned my mom and had a heart to heart with MIL when I did that we were fine. There is still a lack of trust between the moms but that will pass. You do not have to like each other but you should always respect the title and know that there is room in everyone’s heart in a family. Are they proud of themselves? Is Joey G ashamed of himself at all? By both his and Theresa’s admission he was treated like a little prince growing up. This all provokes me to no end and I am not even involved nor do I know any of the people directly involved.

    • hobbyath
      September 5, 2013 at 1:36 AM
  2. Jessie
    September 4, 2013 at 4:49 AM

    It is so sad what jealousy causes people to do. Everyone was jealous of the “fame” Teresa achieved and they all couldn’t stand it. I hope karma catches up with these people.

  3. September 4, 2013 at 5:27 AM

    The following is a comment from ColoradoViewer on Kathy’s Bravo blog in June 2011 about season 3 episode 6, the dinner at the Hizas:

    No matter how intelligent you try to come across in your blogs, I cannot get over how you allow other people to dog and disrespect your family, mainly Teresa & her husband. First, in Poshe you allowed Kim to talk about Teresa and didn’t defend your cousin, and then again in last night’s episode you sat by idly as the Hiza’s talked about Teresa and her problems – only her brother had the decency to defend the honor of his family, while you and Melissa just sat there complacently while these two business associates/”friends” tried to snicker about the Guidice’s personal affairs.

    Many viewers have made this observation and I will reiterate it too – you and Melissa are both probably great women in your own right. But neither of you are doing yourselves favors by trashing your family on TV – just makes you look bad. Looks bad in your blogs too. Keep the skeletons in your closet – and when in public, put on good face about your family. We all have family problems, all of us, but I would never allow strangers or business associates to dog my family in front of my face like that – makes YOU look bad, not the Giudices.

    http://www.bravotv.com.edgesuite-staging.net/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-3/blogs/kathy-wakile/familiar-strangers

    The following is a comment from foucault posted on June 20, 2011 at TWP about the dinner at the Hizas:

    The worst thing about Melissa is that she’s dumb in a boring way, not a funny way (aside from the “wench like me” line, which was even funnier because she sang it!).

    Melissa clearly needs this conflict to continue if she wants a storyline, though, and she drives me crazy when she fusses that Teresa doesn’t care, insists Joe get it sorted out, and then rebuffs any apologies. Maybe she wants Teresa to apologize while hooked to a polygraph. The only solution she desires is unconditional acceptance of her, and that won’t work either. Sometimes there’s only room for one tacky bitch per family, and Teresa got there first. Melissa will have to settle for being the tacky bitch-in-waiting.

    Maybe Kim Hiza didn’t need a plate of food because she feasts on the miseries of others?

    http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/3171337-the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/page-571

    • LilyM
      September 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM

      WTH!!! This comment was from a blog on 2011, and they’re still on the same bash Teresa story! LOL I feel like I just wasted a lot of time trying to make sense of this mess!! I like Teresa but this is ridiculous!! She needs her own show or do something else, with the blog she posted on her website I feel like maybe she is negotiating her contract, shes not on the summers by Bravo spot either which is strange since shes one of the most popular bravolebrities, I hope she doesn’t come back to NJ so all this FAMEWHORES will go away, I don’t think there will be ratings to keep RHONJ going, And about this article, I do feel like Melissa would do this, you can see the hate in her eyes, and she never looks ppl directly, always averts her eyes, And I think Jack is involved in this, she looks really nervous all the time, I get her son’s situation is hard, but it’s been some time now to have calm down?? But she’s always crying and nervous, I think she knows what’s coming, which is all of the stuff they had done to Teresa exposed or fear that it will come out!

      • Coleen
        September 4, 2013 at 5:57 PM

        Good point about Jack. She has been crying and crying for months now. I get that her son has a learning disability, but she’s made some comments that have raised my eyebrow. Like asking Tre if she forgives her. Yet she’s also looking for an apology in her blogs. She’s so scattered and all over the place.

      • Jack Hole
        September 4, 2013 at 11:32 PM

        I totally agree Liliy!! I said awhile back that I think Jac and Joe Gorga (and to some degree Kathy) are so riddled with guilt, that is much of what we see playing out on the screen! Melissa, Chris and Richy are always convincing their spouses that they are “right” to treat Teresa that way bc they now have a dog in the race(they now stand to be exposed for their role in ratting on the Giudice’s, and they stand to lose several incomes if this exposed- that is probably all the resolve that any of them need to keep the lie up!!). It is almost as if the spouses are the sociopaths!!?? I still do not understand Caroline’s reasons, other than to flex her power and probably jealousy as we all know(the Manzo’s were supposed to lead the show, the products etc)…Hell, even the Giudice kids got more airplay/attention from Andy during the 1st few seasons…

        Take note that we have not seen one single frame of evidence to support any of their claims about Teresa’s horrible actions, but we see hours worth of their horrible actions! This is classic projecting!!! I ALWAYS felt the projecting coming from the others was about something deeper. There is a deeper guilt than just joining the cast (which is bad in and of itself,ask me!)

        FAME: Can you find the footage of Melissa interacting with Chacon @ the x-mas party? I feel like it was that same bad acting we have seen at reunions and Lake George.

        I am not surprised to learn what we have all thought all along. Shame on Andy. I will not support Bravo in any way/shape/form after this season. And if the Gorgas supposedly “have more and learned everything from Joe Juicy”, why aren’t they being looked at??!! I have to go with what makes sense in all of this—these ppl cooperated behind The Giudice’s back and they have been trying to create a monster out of Teresa to justify their actions and ease their own guilt and Bravo was on board to make that happen bc it gave them a ready made villain but season after season, it has not worked! Bc those of us with brains in our heads enough to not fall for the nonsense can see through this.
        I say this often, may they all truly get what they deserve in the end!!

        • xjrsygrl7733
          September 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM

          They’re not being looked at because they have tipped off Monica & others. Seasons 3 & 4 all you hear JoeG say is “My sister needs to fall” “My sister is evil” “My sister needs to see what she does wrong” The Gorgas are trying to take Teresa down & they said it more than once. The Lauritas jumped on the bandwagon once they had charges brought against them for bleeding their businesses dry to the tune of hundreds of millions. Once that happened Jac turned on Teresa & started bringing up her finances on camera. I am pretty sure that Jac & Chris agreed to testify or give info against the Giudices so they could get a deal on their own lawsuits which are much worse than the Giudices charges.

        • September 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM

          That’s right. They were banking on making Teresa look like a conniving monster and everyone falling for it hook line and sinker. Maybe 50 yeas ago, but not this day and age where we are constantly bombarded by news of corruption, backstabbing, and wickedness going on destroying nations, business partnerships, and marriages. We needed to know why everyone was turning on Teresa and they could not come up with something that made any sense for the amount of anger they held towards her. That was their undoing. People started to examine things more closely.

    • Miss Alicat
      September 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM

      tacky bitch-in-waiting…new acronym for tsil will now be tbiw!

  4. DD
    September 4, 2013 at 5:38 AM

    This is sickening. To think that someone in your family can hate you this much. The Lauritas and Gorgas have very ugly and dark souls.
    How are they (Lauritas,Gorgas) going to deal with atonement? They have not yet reached the 50 year old mark. The point when you can look back on your life and say “I have made it through more than half of my life and no unforgivable regrets” When you start to see the errors of your past and you come to a point of forgiveness. Looking forward to riding out the rest of your life understanding that although you are not perfect you can actually live with yourself and the mistakes you have made, and try to make things right.
    It wouldn’t surprise me if when the show ends they all end up in divorce, broke, and washed up for life. Because when this is all over with what will they have? They will have had their 15 minutes of fame and pictures to prove it. Along with a soul so dark that people avoid you like the plaque. In fear of what they will do to you. If they would sell out their own family, they will sell out anyone. Disgusting people that they are……………………………..

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:08 AM

      Bingo

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM

      I hope that the Gorga’s involvement helping Monica, who was helping the FEDS, will come to light in a very public way. If TB does have “connections” he better watch it! From what I hear mobster’s don’t like snitches, so he better watch his little stumpy azz! TSIL was at the top of list for most disgusting RHONJ cast member, now it’s TB! What a low down sack of crap to do that to his own sister! I always let him slide when he would say something mean about Tre. I figured he was so P-whipped that he couldn’t see straight not to mention he comes across as not too bright. Now, I see why he and his wife are so hell bent on trying to make Tre look bad.

      I like to analyze a person’s bahavior on what makes them do the things they do. Maybe TSIL & TB are the ones who are “leaking” stories about Tsil being a stripper and a cheater? They want to set Tre up to look like a backstabbing, conniving, jealous hag who is out to humiliate TSIL? If the disgusting Gorga’s can convince the majority of viewers that Tre was in cahoots with Penny/Jan regarding the cheating rumors, then that would give them a reason for cooperating with Monica/FEDS? Right now I think TSIL & TB’s trying to say that Tre set Penny/ Jan up to out TSIL as a cheater is ludicrous! Their “I think Tre is acting suspicious. Why is she always around when something bad about TSIL is revealed?” is, well, stupid! They look more guilty than Tre does! I think why Tre is around people when TSIL’s skanky past is revealed is that they are the ones setting Tre up to be present. I think TB might have a conscience and he knows if it’s revealed that he helped Monica/FEDS he may know that he’ll be looked upon as scum. No one will ever trust him again. He knows his parents will certainly disown him. I would say TSIL might worry about her reputation, too, but she has a cold, cold heart with no conscience. For TSIL she probably knows that if it’s outed about her involvement she can just lie about it and blame TB for everything. She’s a devil and probably made sure all her bases are covered. Anyway that is my opinion and I don’t know if it’s correct. I do like to come up with way out there theories on why the Gorga’s seem to be having a hard time forgiving Tre. If they can forgive her so easily then when they charges came out they would feel GUILT for what they did. Now, they seem to be using this extremely hard time in Tre’s life as a way to make them look good.

      • September 4, 2013 at 12:56 PM

        TB wants Caroline and anyone else who will listen, to believe he loves his sister, but he can not go along with all of this if he cared about his parents, his sister, his nieces and his children. Bravo knew all of this and wrapped script around it? The entire situation is disgusting. Nothing hurts the soul more than deep betrayal of someone who says they love you. It is one of the most difficult things to overcome. Teresa can do it.

        “Betrayal is common for men with no conscience.”
        ― Toba Beta

        • September 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM

          “Nothing hurts the soul more than deep betrayal of someone who says they love you. It is one of the most difficult things to overcome” beautiful said and true

          • adioslunatic
            September 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM

            Agreed, Roger. Kay is our poet laureate here at Fame’s.

            • September 4, 2013 at 6:58 PM

              Thank you for your kindness adioslunatic. I had to look up what that meant lol

          • September 4, 2013 at 6:55 PM

            Thank you for your kindness Roger.

          • September 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

            Oh my God, that is so true.

      • ihateandy
        September 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

        yeah your right. If they get busted for outing Tre, Messy will totally play innocent and blame Joe for it all… The poor victim role she plays will no doubt be used here. I am just shocked beyond belief how deep all this gets. It’s on the scale of Shakespeare…no Opera, its epic!!!

      • September 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM

        If anyone of them gave any slice of evidence it will come out and when it does the sh– will hit the fan. I almost hope they gave evidence so Teresa and her family can see once in for all what type of people they are truly dealing with. Though I feel bad for them I don’t believe that the situation is as bad as the government is saying we all know they over charge to try and make something stick. I was watching I believe fox and they were talking about the giudice case and they said even with all the charges the normal jail time is 18months -24months that still is a long time but a lot shorter than 50 years… Sad all around…

      • Jack Hole
        September 5, 2013 at 8:56 AM

        I agree w your thoughts on this!! The Gorgas are 100% behind all of the drama!! In fact- the biggest issue I see with this angle about Teresa is the fact that Melissa “found herself around Danielle.” Her version is that she put out a story on FB about Teresa and Danielle reached out to her, why then couldn’t the same thing happen with Teresa with Melissa haters? Using her logic? So for her to automatically say that Teresa is behind it just confirms that she is a paranoid person with a guilty conscience(it is ok for this to happen to her but not ok for it to happen to Teresa?) She is a monster. Especially because there is blood family involved. What a heartless person she is. And the rest of them too honestly but I do believe it all started w Melissa and her hag-sisters’ jealousy!!

        But the guilty conscious thing even goes for Jac. I think that is why they overly do the whole Nick/Autism thing. They know and Jac knows that she took part in potentially wrecking a home and she is riddled with guilt and the touch stone of relief they created to absolve their guilt is to stratify it…”my kid is disabled so there is a bigger need than what your kids have”
        Sick these ppl are…

      • September 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

        If I am not mistaken (as my only knowledge of “connections” is 3rd party and beyond) they look poorly on selling out ones family right? The lack of loyalty to family would put him in harm’s way as The Family would know he’s a rat. Please correct me if I am wrong

    • RahRAh
      September 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

      Yes, and how will she be remembered? As the person who attempted to destroy the life of her husband’s sister and his parents for greed and vanity.

    • September 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      Great post DD.

    • adioslunatic
      September 4, 2013 at 3:13 PM

      @ DD

      Excellently stated.

      I imagine them sitting in a room ala Miss Havisham from “Great Expectations” – their youth faded, their homes crumbling around them, filled with hate and revenge in their hearts.

      For their sakes I pray they repent but, I doubt it.

      Miss Havisham HAD a good heart at one time. These bimbos, male and female, have never had hearts. The slings and arrows they have suffered – what they believe to have been from the hand of Teresa – are the manifestation of their avarice and jealousy. They have compromised their souls themselves, no help needed.

      Run, Teresa, run!

    • Dubbalicious
      September 4, 2013 at 9:57 PM

      Very well said DD! I love your 50’s analogy..Perfect. So true :)

  5. qb
    September 4, 2013 at 5:50 AM

    If this is true, There will be a special place in HELL for Both Joe and Melissa! To do that to your OWN FAMILY. I am NOT excusing what Joe and Teresa did, but your own family!!!

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:28 AM

      This is so disturbing on so many levels. That Joey Gorga would take part in and be aware of a cliche of people that are hell-bent on taking someone down in such a way that could mean prison for your sister, is so sinister and so beyond the pale of normal family drama that I can’t even comprehend it. Who would do that to a sibling? Who would be aware of it and not warn and protect that sibling? Could it be that Joey Gorga is as much of a sociopath as Melissa? I am sure the parents are well aware of all of the disgusting backstabbing that Joey and his wife have perpetrated on their daughter, I mena, this is a serious situation that they can no longer be protected from and trust me the father is not some frail, old dummy. He has undoubtedly seen this pattern of disturbing behavior from his son his whole life, and even after being swindled out of his own home by his son, his jaw must be hanging to the floor knowing what his son has done to his daughter and their girls. It all stems from a blinding, irrational hatred of Joe Guidice and the fact that his father prefers Joe Guidice’s company to his. I’ll bet he wishes he had just let Joey have to deal with the rape charges, and we wouldn’t be where we are today. To Joey, this is even better than murdering Joe Guidice, because of all the future suffering involved. But to do this to his own sister, it makes him a monster. This is a betrayal worthy of a Shakespearean play.

      • September 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM

        TB most likely was hoping to bring disgrace to Juicy without it looking like he had anything to do with it. Mr. Gorga did not seem surprised when TB started taking a fit at the christening. He looked up from his plate of food and was like – oh bother here we go again

        • September 4, 2013 at 4:40 PM

          TB has a really bad case of sibling rivalry turned into jealousy and rage turned into self righteous server of justice – all fueled on by his off the chain evil wife.

          But neither are particularly intelligent – so in the immortal words of Wet Willie – “Everything that you do, will come back to you!”….

        • Jack Hole
          September 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM

          Right!!! I think that the Gorgas etc truly believe that the more they say that there is all of this pain and issues, the audience will start to believe it too(well, and clearly some ppl have…) but when you look at Juicy throughout the scenes (for instance the christening)he is truly perplexed!!! And even with the christening- the Gorgas blamed the Giudice’s and still have neglected to apologize to Joe and Teresa-smh!!

          I think Joe Gorga was gorgasming when Joe Giudice “admitted” to being afraid because he sees that as him admitting to guilt- which Juicy was not doing clearly…

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        September 4, 2013 at 10:21 PM

        I have been personal witness to family daynamics where one sibling is normal, happy and grounded and the other is literally certifiable. TB is probably harboring some very deep issues. The fact that from the same conservative, traditional environment that produced Teresa, we ended up with Joe the Chip ‘n Dale stripper is telling about him. And you are so spot on – how is it that his own parents seem to want nothing to do with him (other than seeing grandchildren). The man is a sicko with a filthy disgusting excuse of a wife.

  6. tulip
    September 4, 2013 at 6:08 AM

    Can Monica Chacone be reported to the New Jersey State Bar Association? What about getting the New Jersey Attorney General involved to investigate all these shady people? Surely there is some agency that could step in and expose these lowlifes!

    Any attorneys out there reading this blog? I would also like to know what can legally be done.

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM

      Somebody needs to do it. She should at least be investigated.

    • littlewitch
      September 4, 2013 at 9:39 AM

      Actually Monica Chacon Represents the ex business partner so the privilege belongs to him. Ms Chacon has no issues of attorney client privilege with the Giudices. If her client does not object she can discuss any facts of Giudice’s case with the government, he isnot directly involved, in fact, he is helping the government apparently.

      • RahRah
        September 4, 2013 at 10:55 AM

        With proof of any wrong doing, any citizens only has file a complaint with the New Jersey State Bar.

    • vallygirl
      September 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      Tulip on- YES Monica Chacon can can be reported!!!!!! Though I’m not an attorney I do know something about the law ethics (I almost took the bar exam) I changed my mind and chose a different career. What Monica did goes against law ethics. Let me explain an attorney is not suppose to speak about ligation about clients to others it’s against others litigations. What she did goes agianst ethics. If anyone knows Teresa’s attorney’s name please give me his name and I’ll will explain this to him or him.

      • tulip
        September 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM

        Hi valleygirl!

        I read on E News that Teresa’s attorney is Henry Klingman. If he is contacted and asked to read everything on this blog that explains Monica’s involvement which clearly shows how unethical she has been in this.

        • vallygirl
          September 4, 2013 at 4:33 PM

          Thank you Tulip on for the attorney’s name!!!!!!!!
          What Monica, KimG, The fame hungry Whorgas, and who ever else did this to Teresa are DEMONIC people!
          A perfect example of why we shouldn’t hurt other people because karma does come back to those doing the hurting.
          AND what the hell is KimG doing involving herself in gathering information on anybody she’s not even a paralegal or an officer of the court! All I can say is if I did what these fame hungry freaks to Teresa I would be scared out of my mind because of karma.
          We must all remember what The Lord says Vengeance is mine sayeth The Lord!

          • military wife and proud of it
            September 4, 2013 at 5:18 PM

            thank you,glad you are trying to help teresa and juicy, fame, its great to hear you tell us the truth thank you

            • vallygirl
              September 7, 2013 at 7:12 PM

              You’re welcome Military wife and proud of it- I’m a military wife too.

              I think we should all do something to help Teresa. Think about it all this is happening because these morons are jealous of Teresa her fame, the love her fans have for Teresa that the others crave. What Teresa and Joe are being accused of is nothing compared to what The Lauritas, The Gorgas have done. The Lauritas based on what I’ve read their money issues are in the millions. Joey the migdet and his own parents loosing their home because of him
              and ssomething to do with some loan sharks. Because Meho wanted to live in that hideous house. (That’s what I’ve read).
              I’m just saying we should all do something to help who’s only guilty of having more fans than the others on this show. And, that’s even beyond her control we tune in every week to see her personality and the great entertainment she gives us all.

          • tulip
            September 4, 2013 at 5:44 PM

            You’re welcome vallygirl! :)

            I remember reading somewhere, was it on here? that Monica Chacone owes taxes. It was posted from tax records on one of the blogs. If she doesn’t pay her taxes, it’s a dang sure bet she is shady in all other areas of finance as well.

            KimG is gonna get her day too…I believe she probably has skeletons in her closet as well.

      • xjrsygrl7733
        September 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM

        I don’t think it was right for Monica to do that TV interview recently either. That should be illegal when the case is still open. She isn’t the lawyer on the case now but she sure has had a lot to say about how she was the one to get the Giudices indicted. She was saying things about the Giudices in Season 3 at the Gorgas party also & we all know she has told KimG every single thing going on.

  7. cantik
    September 4, 2013 at 6:15 AM

    Hi Fame,

    Thanks for show us the difference side of the story…..

    Just want to tell you that Teresa’s blog for the episode is up at her http://teresagiudice.com/myblog/ it’s quite interesting because the blog is up on her privat blog not bravo blog.

    • LifeIsGood
      September 4, 2013 at 7:16 AM

      Wow! Thanks for the share, cantik. I hope that Teresa continues to post on her personal blog. If the link gets distributed enough, maybe Caroline will be forced to address why she lied about what happened at the ranch.

      • vallygirl
        September 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM

        Life is good- what happened at the ranch?????????

        • LifeIsGood
          September 5, 2013 at 5:23 PM

          Valleygirl,

          Apparently, the scene where they were lifting the horses’ leg was edited to show that Teresa (along with her brother and Mel) were not successful. But according to Teresa, after her first attempt she went back and was able to do it, and Bravo chose not to show it. In her talking head, carolinebased her comments on the Bravo verision and blathered on – stating that Teresa and Mel were the same. When in fact, Caroline was there when Teresa (and Joe) lifted the horses’ leg. caroline is FOS!

    • hoolie
      September 4, 2013 at 7:39 AM

      thanks for sharing link- i had heard scuttlebutt that T did in fact complete the excercise with the horse successfully and Bravo chose not to show that (surprise…not) But did not know that Slo Jo completed it as well.
      I thought perhaps T was going to get a better edit this season, but I guess ole MAndy and crew still have their hard on for T….

      • Silvana
        September 4, 2013 at 9:05 AM

        I found it interesting that Caroline and Albert were fighting the whole time. Mmmmmmmmm

        • September 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM

          Why wouldn’t Albert just get a divorce at this time in his life. You only have one life, and he should have a nice retirement with a pleasant (and attractive) companion who isn’t yapping cliches all damn day and hovering over her grown ass kids like a helicopter. Nobody would blame him, and if the adult children don’t like it, just cut them off at the wallet. That’ll change their tune. It seems clear to me that they are all just using him for his money, and that needs to stop.

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            September 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM

            The problem is that at this point in his life, Mama Salami would drain him like a kosher chicken. You really think she would let her (and her kids) gravy train go free? She would lawyer up and get every last crumb she could. I knew a gentleman a few years back that had worked like a dog for years building up a substantial multi-national business. The joint had *two* corporate jets down at Teterboro, and properties and apartments around the world. The wife was a vampire. She started divorce proceedings after she “found a bigger fish”. He did get his revenge though. He basically told the divisions to stop taking orders. Within 18 months everything was shut down or sold off. The wife got virtually nothing in the settlement and her “new beau” dumped her after learning of the situation. I see a vague similarity with the Manzos. Big C will not let up on Al. He is there to serve her and keep her purse filled. Would he ever dare to look to leave the situation she would have him eviscerated.

          • elemcee
            September 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM

            I cannot sand Al, I don’t really know why, but my instincts are pretty spot on. But, it makes me sick watching his family bleed him dry. I have helped my husband every way that I have been able to make sure he retires at 55. I want him to have a long, peaceful retirement. We will have to live frugally, but it will be worth every minute he is not at work. Caro and the diaper clad adults truly make me ill, they are killing their father/husband.

            • September 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM

              You sound like a wonderful wife to your hubby!! WE are 50-I wanted mine to retire at 58-he says 62-he thinks it will-financially-be better. But I am with you-the sooner the better!!

              • elemcee
                September 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

                I hope you can convince your husband to retire a little earlier! The men in my husband’s family tend to not live to be old. I worry about his health. I really want him to be able to just relax. And, hopefully there will be grandbabies to spoil!

                • September 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM

                  I am working on him-I do think he will at least work less-we have 4 Grandsons-PURE HEAVEN!!!!!!

            • September 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

              My husband is 72 and is working more hours than he ever has in his life, thanks to cut backs in the hospital where he works. They want to run less operating rooms with less people and stretch the people that do work to the brink, like they were residents or something. But he knew what he was getting into when he married someone 17 yrs. younger. His father worked until he was 95, he was one of the last studio actors alive, and he died at 100 with all his marbles. We live paycheck to paycheck. It’s crazy. We are terrible with money and lost our ass in the rescission. Still who is complaining. Happy New Year to my Jewish friends and don’t stuff your face like I just did.

              • elemcee
                September 5, 2013 at 12:07 AM

                Gessie, your husband sounds amazing! Our funds keep taking knocks too, but I think we will still be able to get everything situated in time. The husband is really good at that stuff, I don’t have a clue. Happy New Year!

              • JUST ME P
                September 5, 2013 at 2:28 AM

                WOW GESSIE, I THOUGHT MY HUSBAND WAS PUSHING WORKING AND HE IS
                ONLY 67…..

                • September 5, 2013 at 7:36 PM

                  I think he will work until he is 80. Then they will force him out of the OR and into an office.

            • MonkeyFighting
              September 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM

              Elemcee, it’s so sweet to see that there are still NORMAL peeps in this world!

          • Honnie Badger
            September 4, 2013 at 12:58 PM

            I know very many couples in their late 50s, early 60s getting divorces after about 30 years of marriage. It’s so much more common now and the numbers are rising.

            • September 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM

              We see that also-our close friends split after 20 years!! It breaks my heart-the man found a younger gal :-( We just had our 25 th Anniversary 2 days ago…hoping and praying for 25 more. My husband’s parents were married for 62 years-his Dad passed last year. They still held hands and were so in love!!! It makes my heart happy to just think about it. They were soooo blessed!

              • Honnie Badger
                September 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM

                Know what? I think it’s because people tend to naturally grow apart. One person grows in one direction while the other grows in another throughout the intervening high-maturity years; then, when the nest is empty, they realize that there is no real compatibility left. Also, now, because people are not only living but thriving longer, the idea of a new, more companionable romance/match is one that is more highly desirable and attainable.

              • NinaK
                September 4, 2013 at 1:54 PM

                Congratulations aaacccp on a huge and wonderful milestone — 25 years!! Here’s to 25 more:)

                • September 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM

                  Thank you Nina!!!

      • cantik
        September 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

        You are welcome Lifeisgood & Hoolie :-))

        • September 4, 2013 at 1:20 PM

          Yes–thank you so much-this really makes me wonder if Teresa and Bravo are ready to part ways???

    • NCGal
      September 4, 2013 at 8:05 AM

      I think anyone who hasn’t done so yet, should post a comment on this blog

      http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-5/blogs/rhonj-tweet-recap/tweet-recap-melissas-regrets-and-

      to not only show support for Teresa and disgust with the way she is being portrayed, but also to let Bravo know we are very aware of and fed up with the manipulation and editing.

    • Gaya3
      September 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

      Why her blog is not posted on bravo yet??? am worried.

      • cantik
        September 4, 2013 at 11:41 AM

        Gaya3,
        teresa’s blog is up at her personal blog http://teresagiudice.com/myblog/ not on bravo…after read Heather maclean (teresa friend &co author ) tweet rant last night, I got the feeling that teresa has a trouble with bravo… …because teresa tell the truth about the editing ( horse lifted) …..

        • Rachel
          September 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM

          cantik,
          it would be really stupid of Bravo to let Tre go. Without T, these women have NO storyline, the show has no storyline and their most popular show would go down the tubes. If I were Bravo, I would build a shrine for T because without her all of their other franchises would suffer.

          • cantik
            September 4, 2013 at 12:45 PM

            actually teresa wish to get fired a long ago but bravo won’t let her.

            But since the “giudice case” there is a theory that Bravo may be concerned that someone may infer they knew of the ” letter made in the bankruptcy filings “

            • September 4, 2013 at 1:22 PM

              What is the “letter made in the bankruptcy filings ” ????

            • Rachel
              September 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

              I know she had asked to be fired, I would too if it were me, I cant blame her. But we must admit Bravo would be stupid to let her go before her contract ends. My hats off to Tre for staying that long.

        • September 4, 2013 at 4:49 PM

          Bravo has “changed” HW’s blogs to fall in line with their storylines before and if they rejected Teresa’s blog for this episode so what – she has her own blog and there are many ways to get that information out to viewers.

          If the heartbreaking discussion was about whether or not to go back for another year of beat me like a dead horse (sorry couldn’t resist) because I need the income as my family’s life is in free fall or walk away and figure out another way to take care of them – I will respect and support her either way!

        • ihateandy
          September 4, 2013 at 11:14 PM

          she gets in trouble for clarifying that she lifted the horses leg? UnFRICKENbeliveable? Ok, I am still processing Fames latest article… If this family and people involved take hate to “Operatic Epic Proportions”, I am gobsmacked at their psychological pathologies. AND if they are this mentally and morally ill, what does that make MAndy and the Bravo Posse? Seriously, this darkness goes all the way to the Network. I hope some employees at Bravo leak info too.

          • ihateandy
            September 4, 2013 at 11:15 PM

            Oh, lets not forget Sirens!

          • September 7, 2013 at 8:23 PM

            Teresa’s not the first one to mention something about editing. As a matter of fact, dear TSIL did also, actually a few times this year. First it was that her mother and sister were not rolling their eyes when she was just oh-so-torn about whether or not to put that “daddy cheated” in her book (even though she just broadcasted it worldwide on RHoNJ) and then again when she was lunching with her *ahem* girlfriends… cough… and they too were rolling their eyes. She set the record straight that no one EVER rolled their eyes at anything SHE would say! Everyone is on her side after all… even though her *cough cough* girlfriend had already proven she was not a friend at all. Oh wait… that was Teresa’s fault! Teresa MADE Jan say that. How silly of me. See? It was editing… Jan would NEVER do such a thing. Melissa made that clear on both counts.

            Alexis from OC also talked about editing once or twice. I’m sure many others have also. I don’t always read the blogs. Actually, I rarely do anymore. I don’t even watch RHoNJ anymore. NEVER thought I would say that but I just can’t do it anymore. I can’t look at TSIL’s face. Not too fond of any of the other faces on their either… except for the Guidices’ and now with all this going down it zapped any lasting interest. I hate to see Teresa being hung out to dry… the only decent person on the show. Yet all the evil people get passes EVERY time. Sick of it… sick of Andy… sick of Bravo. One thing I’M NOT is FAKE and I just can’t fake it any longer. Still love Fame though.

    • September 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM

      maybe she knew bravo has final edit and control over content and would erase what she wrote about what really happened

      • September 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM

        I think that us a fair assumption.

      • ihateandy
        September 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM

        I guess she has courage to speak out because her contract is running out and she hasn’t really got much to lose.

  8. adioslunatic
    September 4, 2013 at 7:04 AM

    Good Morning Fame!

    I believe it was Ratty Granny-pants’ (Chacon’s) husband that represented the business partner. Am I wrong?

    Ratty Granny-pants’ husband needs to muzzle that bitch (female dog) and get her on a short leash.

    Aren’t the Ratty Granny-pants in foreclosure themselves – oh what webs we weave when we are busy being a rat…

    • Eriekah
      September 4, 2013 at 1:21 PM

      Love the ” Ratty Granny Pants name.. Perfect!!!

      • adioslunatic
        September 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

        Thanks, Eriekah!

  9. LifeIsGood
    September 4, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    If this true, I have no words.

    I’m sure all of the NJ ladies read these blogs. If you are reading Teresa, it really is time for you to take the gloves off and take this bitch down once and for all. I cannot imagine how painful it would be to experience this level of betrayal from a family member.

    I wish Danielle would spill, but I wouldn’t bet on it. She won’t do anything to displease that POS Andy.

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:41 AM

      Danielle could write a book about the real goings on at Bravo, and all that she knows about the treachery, and it would hit the New York Times. C’mon Danielle. Do the right thing here.

      • September 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM

        @ gessiewtf….. AMEN!!!!!

      • September 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

        exactly someone has to

    • Jeannie5233
      September 4, 2013 at 11:32 AM

      Heather Maclean herself was part of the reality tv world herself years ago (finalist for Real World San Francisco and filmed the pilot for Road Rules). She was tweeting quite a bit the other day (way too numerous to copy and paste here so just go to her TL @HeatherMaclean) and the information she was giving about contracts and how producers and networks suck the life out of their castmembers was very revealing.

      From what Heather was saying there is at least a five year clause that says Bravo can pretty much dictate what the Bravolebrities can and cannot do after they leave. Bravo “allowed” Danielle, Dina, et al. to appear on other networks, etc. So, that would mean Danielle is still under “lock and key”, so to speak, and may still be under a “gag” order.

      You have to be crazy to enter into the reality tv world under the circumstances Heather is laying out! You pretty much sign away your soul.

      • Honnie Badger
        September 4, 2013 at 1:03 PM

        Hello, lovely Jeannie! First, I’m hoping you are feeling a bit better; my thoughts and prayers and hugs are with you.

        Jeannie, I remember an episode of “Jersey Couture” being filmed at the place (hotel/bar/restaurant/party room complex) where I enjoy a happy hour glass of wine — I cadged the form one has to sign if one consents to being possibly captured on tape. If you didn’t want to be, you had to leave the premises — I did not want to be around it, but chatted the producer’s assistant who gave me the three-page, single-space consent form. If you are caught in the background, or even foreground, doing something embarrassing, and they use it, you are, as they say in Jersey, fucked. They can exploit you and your image and your embarrassment until the cows come home. And, mind you, this is just in case you appear in a damn scene! Imagine what the main characters must sign (I refuse to call them “stars.”)

        • Jeannie5233
          September 4, 2013 at 10:31 PM

          XO

      • Sackem
        September 5, 2013 at 1:37 AM

        HELLO MY FRIEND! XX

        • Jeannie5233
          September 5, 2013 at 11:50 AM

          Hello, Miss Sackem!!! Hope all is well with you and yours Down Under! I am sure Ava is beginning to give you the run around – literally!! XO

  10. September 4, 2013 at 8:23 AM

    I am sickened by this. I can’t even begin to imagine a family member doing this to me! I knew she promised to “take Tre down”, but I didn’t realize it was to this extent! “What goes around, comes around”, I hope those two get theirs, plus some. We may not see while the show is running, but their time will come. I don’t know how Josephine can even look at himself in the mirror. Shameful!

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:41 AM

      with a step stool.

      • my6girls2012
        September 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

        LMAO Gessie! You and Saddle are tag team hilarious!

        • September 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM

          I agree. Laughter is the best medicine when you feel like crying.

        • September 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

          Saddle still has her sense of humor. I lost mine when the Guidice’s got indicted.

    • vallygirl
      September 4, 2013 at 5:05 PM

      pinkkke- I remember when Josephine said in season 3 that he wanted to see Teresa go down in one of his talking heads. Now it all makes sense!!!!!!

  11. mare
    September 4, 2013 at 8:25 AM

    This is beyond sad. The fact that Melissa and Joe can do something like this and then pretend to care about Teresa’s children is inhumane. I do not think they have a shred of empathy or any other human emotion. They are about themselves. Disgusting.
    If I needed a lawyer, I would stay far away from this Chacon and her husband. Something very fishy going on, and I hope they are investigated.

    • Sue
      September 4, 2013 at 10:14 PM

      The Gorga’s don’t take care of their own children so they sure wouldn’t want Teresa’s.

  12. RahRah
    September 4, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    thanks again for reporting to truth which no one seems to care about.

    In my mind I had been wondering if messy and poison had anything to do with this and I say know after reading your article they had everything to do with it. It explains messy’s acting too.

    I pray for the Guidices, I have come to love these people and do not want to see them persecuted because of messy’s envy and jealousy. this is what women like messy do–if they aren’t the center of attention then God help the person they decide punish.

    Rah is a Teresa fan–forever.

  13. Silvana
    September 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    I felt sick reading this and actually brought me to tears I hope this is not true for Teresa’s sake can you imagine how it would feel to be betrayed by your own flesh and blood. I hope the gorgas feel guilty right now and hope that karma gives them a huge fuckin kick up the ass. Fame can you show this article to anyone that might be able to prosecute Monica chacon??

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM

      People like that don’t feel any guilt. They are angels of God, remember?

      • Silvana
        September 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM

        Your right Gessie they prob don’t feel any guilt and that’s the scary part. I hope this is all worth it to joe gorga because one day it will be too late. I had a friend pass away on sat unexpectedly at 39 years of age so I know death has no age limit its to late now to say anything to her hope the gorgas are reading this and realise this hatred is not worth it!!!!

        • Jeannie5233
          September 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM

          Oh my Silvana – may you find solace in the good memories you shared with your friend and may your friend rest in peace.

      • ihateandy
        September 4, 2013 at 11:27 PM

        LOLOL I forgot that gem from Joe. Cocaine much Joe? The ego on him…speeechless

  14. Honnie Badger
    September 4, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    So glad I don’t live up there; what a den of vipers those women are. Botoxed, silicon-filled, hair-dyed, spangle-wearing vipers.

    • mare
      September 4, 2013 at 9:26 AM

      I’m from New Jersey. I am not botoxed, silicon-filled or spangle wearing. I am constantly putting off dying my hair until it looks like I am wearing a grey beanie. I also wouldn’t treat my enemies the way Kathy and Melissa have treated family. I also don’t make assumptions that an entire state or section of the country is like someone I see on reality tv.

      • Honnie Badger
        September 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM

        I am also from NJ! And I am known to defend the great folks of my — our — state. Mare, these women do NOT represent us industrious, innovative, fun-loving folks — but all the HWs (in all the franchises) ARE indeed overly plasticized. I’m sure you agree! BTW, Mare, a “grey beanie” sounds quite attractive! So … rock it! :)

        • September 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM

          I live a stones throw from Franklin Lakes where many of my best friends live and I don’t even know people like this!!!!

        • September 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

          honey and mare
          then can you all get nj in on this and bring the state together for tee n joe.this is sickening ,
          you all have a wonderful kind soul and I don’t think nj will appreciate this kind of behavior from the evil that is going on,they should austrsize them (the ones that gathered info on t n j.joe said it right you can convict a ham sandwich

          • September 4, 2013 at 8:39 PM

            I am involved with the clubs in franklin lakes and they will not take kindly to this crew – they will not be welcomed – including the Wakiles who may have intentions of moving there too….

          • Honnie Badger
            September 5, 2013 at 9:05 AM

            Good morning, Ms. Celi! I hope you are very well today!

            People tend to be quite divided when it comes to T and J. But no doubt in my mind, T and J know that their fans really do love and support them and are probably deeply grateful for that. I firmly believe that when you feel authentic, pure love and support for someone, he or she does indeed receive it! :)

            Meanwhile, your “ham sandwich” comment makes me laugh so hard. Who was it who said that famous line about indicting a ham sandwich? I seem to think it may have been F. Lee Bailey. He was here in my town defending a criminal back, I think, in the early 1970s.

      • ihateandy
        September 4, 2013 at 11:29 PM

        Own the grey. I just stopped dying my hair and love hearing other women owning their grey.

  15. Extra Extra
    September 4, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    I have always written about my dislike about Melissa, Joe, Jacqueline, Kathy, and Caroline and after reading all the information that Fame was able to receive and share with us, only confirms my dislike for those vultures. I really do not know if anything can be done to Monica, but right now the Giudices have their legal battle all thanks to her, What they need is our continued support. Melissa Marco, Joe Gorga, Jacqueline Laurita, Chris Laurita, Caroline Manzo, Albert Manzo, Rich Wakile, and Kathy Wakile, along with Monica Chacon and Kim Granatell. all had a hand in trying to take down Joe and Teresa Giudice in front of the camera and behind it. I still have that sit down that Jacqueline had with Teresa at her house on her deck when she and Caroline set Teresa up to purposely try to burn her for the cameras. I still have flash backs of how evil Melissa, Joe, Kathy, and Rich have been to Teresa in front of millions of viewers. All these people have purposely tried to humiliate, slander, and take down Teresa and Joe Giudice. Bravo and the producers had to have known that was the basis of the set up. They wanted concrete evidence for entertaining purposes and a personal hate vendetta against the Guidices.. Out of all the housewives franchises, not one housewife has this been done to. Andy Cohen is an evil, manipulative man. All of them shall reap what they sowed.

    I just read Teresa’s Blog on her web page. I wonder why Bravo chose not to display it on their website? I guess they truly do not want viewers to know that Teresa and her brother did get to complete the task with the horse and only Melissa didn’t. Also, Caroline stated during this past weeks episode that Teresa and Melissa did not complete the task and called them both superficial?! She is a lying witch! Caroline knew that Teresa and Joe Gorga completed their task with the horse and pretended to not know about it. No matter how Caroline tries to pretend for the cameras that she wants peace within the group, she is nothing but a FRAUD. In her own way, Caroline is still trying to be a mean, bitter woman to Teresa.

    I said it once and I will say it again, None of these women have a story line without Teresa. Viewers do not care about the Manzo’s, Laurita’s, Wakile’s, or the Gorgas. A majority of the RHONJ viewers love, love, love Teresa and her family. We want Teresa to be vindicated. We want all of these hypocrites to apologize and admit what they did purposely to try to destroy Teresa. I cannot believe how no one has mentioned how beautiful and sexy Teresa looked with that one bikini and in all of her outfits. Teresa has a hot body and I am not gay, I am just giving a compliment to a woman who deserves it. Teresa is a very strong woman. I hope everything works out for them, not just for their kids, but for them as Joe and Teresa are good people.

    Melissa Marco and Joe Gorga are disgusting human beings. I always knew Melissa was jealous of Teresa, but the lengths that she went to and Joe Gorga allowing himself to get manipulated and allowing all of these people hate on his only sister is sickening. Melissa, we all know that your line to Joe is that everyone wants to separate you two, as a cover up for all the hand job, blow jobs, and cheap sex that you given to men behind your husbands back. Melissa Marco you are a trashy, jealous, vindictive, deceitful, manipulative, wanna be an A list celebrity whore! Hopefully, your only daughter doesn’t get in return from her brothers wives what you did to Teresa!

    • DD
      September 4, 2013 at 9:43 AM

      Excellent comment! Bravo, bravo!

    • RahRah
      September 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM

      You this explains the collective effort on their part to take T down.

    • Jeannie5233
      September 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      Great post ExtraX2!!

      • September 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM

        I agree! How are you sweet Jeannie??

        • Jeannie5233
          September 4, 2013 at 10:33 PM

          Okay – thanks for asking aaacccp!! Wish I could go to your avi right about now!!! Oh, wouldn’t that be nice!!

    • Anonymous
      September 4, 2013 at 8:02 PM

      Amazing post!!!!

    • September 4, 2013 at 8:33 PM

      Love your post.

    • September 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM

      I think you mean D List, and I agree with everything you said.

      • September 7, 2013 at 8:44 PM

        “A-list wannabe” IS what she is however she will NEVER come close.

    • flaflkafj@yahoo.com
      September 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM

      LOVE IT!!!!!!

    • September 7, 2013 at 8:45 PM

      Love your comment and love your name too!

  16. September 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Buy my marriage advice book? Holy Crap! How to swindle your in-laws out of their home, how to work for years to harm your sister-in-law, how to be a fake singer and a fake author, how to be repulsed by your husband and stay married for the money, how to team up with your sisters to destroy a family, how to go from homely and strip club employment to plastic surgery beauty and a great lifestyle, how to manipulate everyone around you, how to play the victim card, the list is endless.

    • Sue
      September 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM

      + how to manipulate the number of Twitter and Facebook fans you have by buying them!

  17. KaraIn1975
    September 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Omg! Mel AKA evil witch singing live no auto tune. Soooo funny and sad at the same time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYSu5C8Jca0

  18. September 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Fame,

    I think they are filming reunion today because Ashlee had previously said all the rest of the RHNJ episodes just came in for them to watch…maybe trying to do it before Teresa and Joe court date .. Then Melissa’s sister tweeted this:

    @melissagorga @KathyWakile sending some calm peaceful {{{{vibes}}}} thru the airways for you both today. 💋👍
    9:50am – 4 Sep 13

    • NCGal
      September 4, 2013 at 1:39 PM

      A couple of others have tweeted Best Wishes for Teresa today regarding reunion, so I think it is today too.

      Serious question: I wonder if Teresa has shown up for it. It would not surprise me in the least (nor would I blame her) if she passed on it.

      (Keep in mind, that although Andy let Jac skip the one reunion, when Adrienne Maloof skipped RHOBH, he fired her with his big dramatic announcement on air).

    • Sackem
      September 5, 2013 at 1:42 AM

      Ok, all is not well in Bravo land for sisters to be sending out peaceful vibes and Teresa to be getting on in about Missy speaking for her on twitter….

  19. Bullie
    September 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    I hope Gia reads this website.

    • Honnie Badger
      September 4, 2013 at 1:09 PM

      I hope not. She’s still too young and should really, really enjoy just being a kid/tweener! I do feel for her, she must know all about her parents’ legal woes, and we all know that many kids are so unkind that I wouldn’t doubt Gia may be experiencing some horrible taunting incidents. I do wish Gia and her sisters well, health and deep happiness. They’re lovely children.

      • September 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

        yes I think gia shod read this to know who the ones were that hurt her family,they could have gathered info and made it all look bad ,but look what the jacos family did ,ripped off all the ones working for them n ripped off the susan g koman cancer funds ,why do they get away w it?

        • Honnie Badger
          September 5, 2013 at 9:08 AM

          Ms. Celi, it’s a tough call, really. I totally understand where you’re coming from. But I feel so protective of such a young person. Poor girl is torn in half because she has always adored her uncle Joe. I cannot fathom the confusion, the heartbreak she still must be carrying.

          And yes! I totally agree about the Lauritas. They were here in my neck of the woods twice, recently, trying to raise money for an autism foundation! It just REEKS of impure motives!

  20. Laker
    September 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Whether or not I believe this in its entirety, I would venture to guess that 75% of it is true. WHY was there so much insistence on whether or not Tre was being paid for her magazine covers? Why was it such a big argument, and why was it constantly brought up? Why did Tre get so mad every time it was brought up? Even Andy brought it up. As though getting some chump change for letting someone take your photo is the height of scandal. Never mind Mel admitting to contacting Danielle, everyone accusing Juicy of cheating, friendships of eight years crumbling the minute the Gorgas are involved…

    I think part of why this show is basically a farce to me at this point is because how could ANYONE with a shred of self worth have the strength to forgive these people after what they have done? It’s like this huge elephant in the room–

    “Oh hey, so I know you went behind my back and fed info to my mortal enemy that then was leaked to the ENTIRE NATION, and you came to my place of employment, the ONLY job I have left to try to avoid losing everything my children and I have, and tried to ruin it for me, and even went so far as to announce to the press that you think it’s time I left reality TV… but let me forgive you and pretend we’re a loving family.”

    I just think this runs so much deeper– to me– than what we can perceive as viewers. Melissa doesn’t just want to destroy Tre’s fame, she wants to destroy her LIVELIHOOD which is the only thing she has right now to keep her from sinking under. I mean, blame Tre all you want for getting herself into this financial situation, but she needs all the help she can get and then she has a snake in her own family wanting to snatch the last morsel away from her and leave her to starve.

    I wouldn’t be able to forgive them. I really wouldn’t. I think Tre is being a good employee and really loves her brother and her niece/nephews– but beyond that, I would not blame her ONE BIT if she decided to cut them out of her life for her own sanity.

    • NinaK
      September 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM

      I don’t think they could/would ever apologize or express any remorse for their actions to Teresa, but even if they did, at this point I think she would be stupid to forgive them. I lose a little bit of respect for her when she goes back to them groveling. She seems to be doing it less and less (thank goodness).

      When she did the “burning ceremony” with Cracker Jack, I actually enjoyed it because she seemed to be approaching it from a position of power.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 4, 2013 at 11:34 AM

        I agree NinaK. Enough is enough. If Teresa hasn’t figured out by now that TSIL and TB will never show any kind of remorse and will continue to come after her, she never will. When does self-respect kick in?!

        • hobbyath
          September 4, 2013 at 7:41 PM

          Jeannie, all the best to you.
          With regards to Teresa, I would go for self-preservation. I hope this instinct is strongly instilled in her by her parents.

          • Jeannie5233
            September 4, 2013 at 10:34 PM

            Thank you hobbyath!

      • September 4, 2013 at 12:26 PM

        Yes, a position of power. I was trying to think how to word it, and you did it so perfectly!

    • September 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM

      GREAT points Laker—I think they were trying to get her to say she was getting paid …maybe they are working with the feds???? Oh I think so, I am SURE the others are all very shady also!!! They whole thing is making me sick :-(

    • September 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM

      Laker, have no fear, everyone who tried to destroy Teresa and Joe will get their day. As I said from day one, if Teresa and Joe did wrong they should and will be punished also. I do not handle the finances in this home, my husband does. If he tells me to sign on the line, I do, I trust him and have enough to do without worrying about the finances.

      If this story is true and like you, I believe 75% + is true, then some of these fools elevate themselves to be an Angel of God, I would not want to be in their shoes when they face the Lord God (higher power, Karma, etc.).

    • Sackem
      September 5, 2013 at 1:44 AM

      Great post

  21. Jeannie5233
    September 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I do not use the word “evil” often because it connotates the epitome of one of the worst and extreme character flaws a human being can have. But this whole situation and all of the parties involved that have been put forth in Fame’s article screams – Evil.

    Who harbors this much hatred, jealousy, vengefulness, treachery, betrayal, and ugliness towards someone else, let alone a family member or longtime friend!?

    Even if one does not believe in the Hereafter, the Seven Deadly Sins give society a guideline of goodness, morality, and values. They are as follows:

    PRIDE is excessive belief in one’s own abilities, that interferes with the individual’s recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

    ENVY is the desire for others’ traits, status, abilities, or situation.

    GLUTTONY is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.

    LUST is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.

    ANGER is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.

    GREED is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.

    SLOTH is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work. It is also known as Laziness.

    These people have committed most, and in some cases all, of these deadly sins. Additionally, for those who do believe or follow the Ten Commandmennts, they have also broken at least five of them. They will at some point be made to atone. We may not see it, but they will.

    Shame on all of them.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      I would be very afraid if I was one of them. They will burn in hell for what they have done. It’s one thing to be jealous of someone’s outfit and make a snarky remark. It’s another thing to make a concerted effort to destroy someone. What if there is no hell? Well then karma/the universe/whatever will try to balance everything out. What if there is no hell, no karma, nothing? Then they will piss off the wrong person and end up stuffed in a car trunk someplace a la Tiny Manzo. No matter what – these people will end up paying an awful price for their horrible deeds.

      And just reviewing the sins above – it’s obvious that Meli-succubus is guilty of all of them…

      • Silvana
        September 4, 2013 at 11:19 PM

        Just imagine if they put that much effort into themselves and building their own empires then they wouldn’t need to be jealous of the Giudices!!

    • September 4, 2013 at 11:48 AM

      I love your posts, Jeannie! Everytime I try to name all the “7 Deadly Sins” I always forget sloth.
      BTW, I hope your doing well.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM

        XO

        • Eriekah
          September 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM

          Wow your post summed up Melho and her family including her husband perfectly..
          Good job.

          Side note to you Jeannie. My condolence to you and your family.

          • Jeannie5233
            September 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM

            Thank you Eriekah – it is greatly appreciated.

            • DD
              September 6, 2013 at 6:03 AM

              Great post Jeannie. Glad to see your back.

    • HWAddict
      September 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM

      Jeannie, evil was the word that kept going thru my head as I read this article. It really is a reminder why the Lord’s Prayer has ” deliver us from evil”. Please allow me to offer my condolences on the loss of your beloved Mom. May you find comfort in your memories.

    • Honnie Badger
      September 5, 2013 at 9:10 AM

      So insightful, Ms. Jeannie!

      I have always said that I believe that pride is healthy — it’s OK to be proud of a job you did, or how you helped someone achieve something. I think that a certain amount of pride fosters healthy self-confidence, self-security and self-esteem.

      But … narcissism is what really gets my goat! I know it’s semantics, really, but I would substitute pride for narcissism.

      Just my two cents as I find myself in a ponderous mood today! :)

      • Jeannie5233
        September 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM

        The kind of Pride you speak of is absolutely heathy and I agree with you 100% with what you say how it fosters a well-rounded and mentally stable person.

        However, the kind of Pride my sister harbors which prevented her from being a loving, respectful daughter – that is what is harmful and that is what I consider a sin. More’s the pity because of that pride, she missed out on three wonderful years she could have shared with my mother. Her loss – due, in part, to her pride preventing her from picking up a phone.

        P.S. Always welcome your two cents! :)

        • Honnie Badger
          September 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

          Good day, lovely Jeannie!

          YES — thank you! I did not think of that kind of pride — the kind that is so focused it is stubborn and closed-minded. Thank you so so much for enlightening me about that type, honestly, I never considered it. Come to think of it, I do know someone like that too.

          I so enjoy our conversations on here — so many Fame posters teach me so much.

    • September 7, 2013 at 9:09 PM

      I hope you’re doing as well as can be Jeannie.

      I do want to say that even without believing in anything about seven sins or the Ten Commandments most people still have human decency. Unless there is something askew in their brain, people want to protect their family… usually friends too… even other human beings in general. People don’t need to believe in the above to have a conscience. I’m one who is a believer but my ex-husband lost faith and towards the end of our marriage no longer believed. He still, however, was a decent person who would NEVER go out of his way to hurt ANYONE.

      It also works the other way. There are people who claim to be religious who are the furthest thing from what being religious means.

      I do believe in evil and I do believe Melissa is truly evil. Joey fell in with those sins when he hooked up with Melissa. He still had to be flawed to allow himself to follow in her evil ways but I believe he also has other powers at work… drugs. Roids, cocaine, all of the above. Let me state that this is my opinion only.

      I never liked Caroline. I think she’s a self-righteous know-it-all who cares only about people in her little world. I’m sad because I did like Jac but she fell down the hole too. I think Melissa lied and lied to Jac and Caroline and conned them into believing things about Teresa that weren’t true but that fit her plan to destroy her. I do believe that when it comes to being evil Melissa is a genius. God forgives our sins but I don’t believe there is hope for someone like Melissa. I don’t believe she’ll be given the gift of everlasting life because she’s soulless.

      I apologize if I got too deep. This is my opinion only and I don’t mean to offend anyone who may believe otherwise.

      • September 8, 2013 at 9:12 AM

        Everyone has a soul. TSIL is protecting hers and I can relate to that. Her ways are very destructive, but nothing is impossible with God. We are all blind sided in some way or the other. It is what we put our hope in, that makes us feel hopeless. People lean on their own weight and measures of sin everytime. I heard a man say he only killed one man and there were plenty of people in the prison that killed alot more. My life was filled with sin and even now, I do things and say things I ask forgiveness for.

        I hope people realize what they are doing when they have their minds set that a person who died or is going to die, does not have everylasting life. If I can see myself dying to protect my child and doing everything within my power to rescue them if they were in danger, to hold fast to them even if they ket go of me, I know God can do all that and much more.

  22. JUST ME P
    September 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    I HOPE THAT SOMEONE MENTIONS THIS SITE AND STORY ON TWITTER, SO OTHERS WILL COME READ IT. I HOPE EVERYONE FINDS OUT WHAT DEAR JOE AND MELISSA DID TO THE GUIDICE FAMILY……SHOW WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP TSL AND HER BROTHER REALLY ARE. ANYONE WHO BUYS MELISSA BOOK AND HER MUSIC ON ITUNES IS A FOOL FOR SUPPORTING THESE HORRIBLE PEOPLE, AND THE WAKILIS
    GO BACK TO PUMPING GAS AND COUSIN KATHY GOES BACK TO WASHING HAIR.

    • LifeIsGood
      September 4, 2013 at 4:14 PM

      I would have a lot more respect for them if they did that – at least it’s honest work.

    • Sue
      September 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM

      PLEASE LEARN HOW TO SPELL GIUDICE!!

      • JUST ME P
        September 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM

        SUE, WHO CARES IF I SPELLED IT WRONG? BIG DEAL, IF MY SPELLING THE LAST NAME INCORRECTLY TRUELY BOTHERS YOU, PLEASE DON’T READ IT.

        • September 5, 2013 at 9:41 PM

          JUST ME P, preach it sista friend *.*

  23. NCGal
    September 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    According to

    http://www.examiner.com/article/rhonj-star-teresa-giudice-gets-more-time-with-her-children-as-trial-gets-moved

    The Guidice trial has been moved from October 8 to October 28.

  24. Sjprincess1
    September 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Please tell me this isn’t true. My heart is bleeding for the Giudices and their beautiful daughters.

    Trust me I believe TSIL and TB are capable of it, but HOW can they do this to innocent children? I actually started crying while I was reading this my my very beautiful, successful and well off sister in law went through a health crisis a few months back. Did I rejoice? Never. I cried with my husband and helped her with my nieces and in any way I could. Because I love her and because she is my husbands sister. As I have said on the RHONJ blog, my husband did not get wonderful on his own. I owe the fact that I have a fantastic man to his parents and siblings… They helped shape who he is!

    To go through something like an illness with my sister-in-law and know the pain and worry that accompanies it.. I have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that anyone would purposely destroy theirs! And my husband…God Forbid… He would rather cut off his hand than Hirt any of his siblings and what for??? 15 minutes of D list fame???

    This article has left me very troubled. I am officially done with his franchise. The cast members are jealous blood suckers and bravo and it’s minions are a disgrace. As far as supporting the Giudices, well I will continue to buy the Milania hair care system because Teresa does not need that show with the little empire she has built.

    • Sjprincess1
      September 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM

      Sorry for the errors. I was shaking as I typed this.

      • September 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM

        {{{{Hugs}}}}} I know what you mean-I am done with Bravo for good.

    • September 4, 2013 at 5:03 PM

      Why does everyone ask why TB and TSIL are even thinking about the Guidice girls or their own children for that matter? Of course they are not thinking about them! They never have and they never will because it is really only about THEMSELVES.
      No offense princess – I was just tired of hearing about seven little people who have no clue what has been done to their little worlds.

  25. Nestings
    September 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    If it is true that TSIL and TB fed incriminating info to Chacon that resulted in the indictments, I hope it comes out in court. That way, should Tre and Joe have to serve time, there may be sufficient cause for their four daughters to NOT be placed with the Whorgas. If they are placed with them, you know we’ll be looking at four little Cinderellas. If TSIL and TB could do that to the parents, can you imagine how these girls will be treated???

    • JUST ME P
      September 4, 2013 at 1:45 PM

      I WOULD BET TERESA AND JOE HAVE MADE LEGAL PAPERS FOR THE CHILDREN TO BE WITH JOE’S FAMILY, THEY WOULD NEVER LET CRAZY JOE AND THE WHORE TO RAISE THE GIRLS

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        September 4, 2013 at 4:16 PM

        The Prancing Cold Sore and the Man Pimple would never get custody. Most likely Pete and Sheila

        • Honnie Badger
          September 5, 2013 at 9:11 AM

          Holy hat! “Prancing Cold Sore!” “Man pimple!” Brilliant! Thanks for the hearty laughter!

        • Lawd u gettin on my nerves
          September 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

          Ahahahahahahaha Saddle. Love your analogy!

        • Nestings
          September 6, 2013 at 3:44 PM

          …and the hits just keep coming!

      • Nestings
        September 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM

        I bet you’re right! That would be the smart thing to do.

  26. corky21
    September 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Her own brother is a RAT! You know what to do with RATS, eliminate them. Teresa needs to turn away from him for good.

    • Silvana
      September 4, 2013 at 11:24 PM

      He’s actually a snake cold hearted and prob fucks himself to!!!!! Sorry for my disgusting mouth:-/

  27. Saddle_River_NJ
    September 4, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Just had a dandy little thought! What if Teresa and Juicy went all Missy on the Gorgas, Wakiles and Lauritas?. They know where all their skeletons are. You think Jax never mentioned siphoning $300 million to her bestie in over 10 years? If Juicy taught the Man Pimple “the business” you think he might know of a few cut corners or “mis-statements” on a loan? Maybe Teresa has some “interesting” information on the Manzo or Wakile business “connections”? Maybe some deal can be made with the prosecutors to testify against the Minions in return for immunity? Stranger things have happened…

    • Jeannie5233
      September 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM

      From your mouth to the Giudices’ ears!

    • September 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM

      At this point, I will be VERY disappointed if they didn’t tell all they know. This is some bullshit!

      • momajackie
        September 4, 2013 at 3:17 PM

        This makes me believe negociations are going on. The Guidices give a little info, the Feds verify it, then offer a deal. Oh Joe and Tre have more info, case continued, repeat steps.

        • September 5, 2013 at 11:23 AM

          I sure hope you are right Jackie!!!

    • September 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      @Saddle_River_NJ ……YES yes and yes! But I fear that some of them have sod their souls to the feds….God help them now.

      • aaacccp
        September 4, 2013 at 10:31 PM

        * sold

    • JUST ME P
      September 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM

      I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT…I HOPE TERESA TURNS THE TABLE ON THEM AND STOPS KISSING AT JOEYS FEET…I HOPE TERESA SAYS F.U. TO MELISSA

    • September 4, 2013 at 2:25 PM

      Hasn’t Juicy already mentioned that he thought Chris was “shady?”

      • Silvana
        September 4, 2013 at 11:25 PM

        Yes he did.

    • Sue
      September 4, 2013 at 10:33 PM

      Where can we learn more about the Laurita’s skimmed 300 million? I’ve heard of them owing 55 million + 18K stolen from Susan B. Komen cancer charity and 340K owed in back taxes. Thanks.
      Jac and Chris are ultra slimy!

    • September 5, 2013 at 3:55 PM

      I wish but part of the reason we all love T is that she is above this. Now if there were a way for her to hang MeHO I bet she would. But what TB forgot was that once married all finances are as a couple. This whole situation sucks I feel like they are going all OJ on the Guidices. These banks are just as at fault if not more so.

    • Jack Hole
      September 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

      I was saying the same thing but they were all probably offered some deal or another to get off on their crimes, that is how these things usually work. And Teresa has said flat out that she has dirt on all of them but SHE is not like that to rat them out- and good for her!! But it would be GREAT to see unfold (I feel so vengeful towards them all, its the Kim D in me)!!!

  28. Anonymous
    September 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    wow ..MC , kim G. , MeHo playing hard ball….
    they may very well end up in a ditch somewhere ..
    those skanks better watch it in jersey …seriously ….
    people have been ‘bumped off’ for alot less…

  29. cantik
    September 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Pray for Teresa….hope she can handle the situation, stay calm…. today is reunion taping day…..

    • September 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      Will do!

  30. Gaya3
    September 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    If bravo cannot post her blog…then why record reunion with her???

    • September 4, 2013 at 1:39 PM

      I know????

  31. Rachel
    September 4, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    As I was reading her blog, I thought of something, could it be possible that Tre is TRYING to get fired? I mean does Bravo not make them write a blog after every episode. Ok, so she did write it but she did not post it on the Bravo site because she knew they would proofread it and therefore the truth would not come out. Tre posting the blog on her website is a major snub towards Bravo, would it be not like not showing up to the reunion? She spoke about editing and what they did not show. But Jac does that every week. She totally dissed Blahvo, Mel, Kathy and Caroline.Plus, Heather’s tweets could and could not be about the Giudices. Tre has asked to be fired since season 3 but they won’t did she find a way? How would that affect season 6? Hmmm idk, just things to think about!

    • September 4, 2013 at 2:28 PM

      IF she were “fired” do you think that would negate her contract in any way? then she would maybe be free to do other things…

      • cantik
        September 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

        She has to wait for 5 year after that, unless bravo allow her to do other things like they did with Dina & danielle

        • Rachel
          September 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

          I’m afraid you are right. I know they’ve asked Kristin Cavallari to do a tell all and she cant because her contract prohibits it. Even after all this time.

          • Silvana
            September 4, 2013 at 11:27 PM

            Wacky jacky didn’t have a blog for last weeks episode so maybe they let off.

  32. Pippi
    September 4, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    If these people were in my life I would truly be terrified. I’m frightened for the Guidices’s and pray they make it through this nightmare. They broke the law and will face the punishment, hopefully it’s not too severe. The evil crew involved in this treachery will be dealt a much harsher hand than the Guidice’s. Nothing good will come their way from what they have done. I was brought up to believe “whatever the deed it comes back to you tenfold” this despicable group of fiends will face the consequence of their actions one day one way or the other. What goes around…….comes around.

  33. RedVelvetCake
    September 4, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Is Monica Chacon transgender?

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 4, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      I don’t think so – but she does have Michael Jackson’s face with Lisa Rinna’s lips

      • September 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        No she does not-she isn’t that good looking! ;-)

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          September 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM

          Ok how about the Crypt Keeper at age 39?

          • September 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM

            Ha-LOL Better!! I love reading your posts!!

          • elemcee
            September 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM

            That woman is only 39? No way! I thought she was at least 50, more like 55.

  34. Debbie Rhodes
    September 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    LVgrl says:
    Tried 2 post info /website of story here onto Bravo blog, they wont approve it

    Feel like Im in mourning. This story is 2 much 2 absorb. The Guidice babie girls!! Wont have parents now cuz of Messy & SloJo! How can SloJo do this 2 his own dad? Tears 4 Tre.

  35. Packerlover
    September 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Teresa and Joe put themselves in this position, unfortunately. Regardless, the fact that those evil, dirty rats helped out Monica Chacon is beyond words! They didn’t do it out of good conscience, they did it out of spite, hatred and jealousy. Female rat was raised by trash, so no hope there anyway, but the male rat? Wow, if his parents dont write his pathetic ass self off after this, I just don’t know.

  36. Eriekah
    September 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    All i got is WOW. What an act of betrayal. Truly sickening. All for a “whore on a stroll walk” to be a star, that she will never be. She just doesn’t have the it factor..

    I have never bought anything RHW but,i told my hubby i want Tre’s cook books. I would love to learn how to cook a real Italian meal, besides a red sauce..lol
    Good luck to Teresa & Juicy today and everyday after.

    The rest are so disgustoso!!!!

    • corky21
      September 4, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      I bought her books just to read what was so awful that she said, and quite frankly, it wasn’t that bad. Some of her recipes are very easy too. I love the Vermicelli pie, never heard of it, and it’s easy and delicious. I make it all the time and freeze slices. The books are nicely designed and easy to read too.

      I told Teresa when I met her that I loved her Vermicelli pie as does my whole family. Yum.

      • September 4, 2013 at 6:55 PM

        ITA – Teresa did not slam Caroline or her kids and what was quoted on the show by the Mean Manzo spawn was taken out of context. However, she did not say anything nice about Kim Grannypants on the stripper pole, which may be why the loonie has been so foul in her tweets since the indictments came down . I love a lot of Teresa’s recipes but love the fact that my husband and 15 year old son pick recipes, shop and cook them too!

        • corky21
          September 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

          Kim G, is disgusting. If she’s so wealthy, etc. she doesn’t deserve it. It must bey dirty money. Teresa would never stoop so low to tweet such nastiness even about her worse enemy, Melissa! She’s the worst kind of scum that Kim.

  37. Luvfamewhorgas
    September 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Teresa has posted her blog on her website in the past. I think she does that when Bravo edits out things she wanted included. I am sure somewhere on this blog is a related link. I think Teresa is getting fed up with Bravo and is giving them the one finger salute maybe hoping they will fire her from the show. I know I read somewhere that the scene from season 1 where she is paying in cash was actually down payments and not full payment and Bravo edited it to appear she was buying in cash. No doubt Bravo’s edits from the past season’s hurt her current difficulties.

    • Rachel
      September 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM

      I’m sure that when they turn in the footage to the court it has to be unedited. It would not make sense that they would accept the edited footage since there would be bias.

      • Luvfamewhorgas
        September 4, 2013 at 4:29 PM

        Hopefully the unedited reels will be beneficial. I think they will. I also think it would actually blow Bravo wide open and kill their “reality” brand of tv shows. If they go to trial RHONJ will get blown wide open in court on the record. Actually that would be entertaining but I hate that Joe and Tre would ultimately suffer the true consequences. I pray for them and hope for the best outcome possible for their family.

  38. Packerlover
    September 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Sorry for posting again, but damn, I’m so mad, I could throw Andy Cohen! I hate Bravo. That is all. Thanks, I feel better now.

  39. GPM
    September 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    It doesn’t look to me like Teresa’s blog is up on the Bravo website?!?

  40. LVgrl
    September 4, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Me2 Packerlover. Just disgusting behavior! I 2 was “taken dwn” by my bro 4 $. Im not over it, happened 10yrs ago, so this story has me in a dark place today.

    Kinda feel like the reunion will b lame2. AndyC doesnt have the balls 2 run the right dialogue, so we cant expect him 2 ask the right questions 2 the right ppl. Tre will b thrown under a bus again, She wont answer any “legal ?s” But I hope this will b the year he puts TSIL (the cheater) on blast! Take a page frm HER book” NOT!!!
    Praying 4 a miracle.Lol.

  41. NCGal
    September 4, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    WetPaint has this about the reunion

    “The wait is over. For all those wondering when the reunion for Season 5 of The Real Housewives of New Jersey would tape, Wetpaint Entertainment can exclusively bring you the answer: today!

    “It’s filming right now,” a source confirms to Wetpaint Entertainment. “The main cast is all there.”

    Also in attendance, we’re told, is “Dr. V,” a.k.a. Venus Nicolino, the clinical psychologist who helped heal the bitter rift between Teresa Giudice and her brother Joe Gorga during an explosive family retreat in Lake George this season.

    She’s not the only special guest at the reunion. Wetpaint Entertainment has also learned that Teresa Giudice brought her criminal attorney, Henry Klingeman, with her — undoubtedly to help address questions about the 39 counts of federal fraud that she and Joe Giudice are currently facing.

    “Teresa wants to clear her name, but she’s extremely limited in what she can talk about,” the source adds. “It’s very frustrating to her.”

    Regardless, thanks to a drama-filled season and Teresa’s ongoing legal issues, this reunion is definitely going to be one for the ages. We can’t wait to Watch What Happens!”

    http://www.wetpaint.com/real-housewives-of-new-jersey/articles/2013-09-04-rhonj-season-5-reunion-taping-1

    • AnnieMarie
      September 4, 2013 at 3:17 PM

      If tre’s lawyer is filmed, I hope Bravo doesn’t edit his segment to make it seem like he said/meant/implied something else.

      • tulip
        September 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM

        If they do, I hope Tre’s attorney sues them. Bravo surely wouldn’t be dumb enough to edit her attorney would they? Wait…it’s Bravo! Of course they would. I am not watching. I hope the ratings suck. I will come here to get the scoop on the reunion after it airs. I quit watching the show a long time ago. Won’t contribute to the ratings. I get all my info on the blogs. I feel like I have to keep up with what is happening to Teresa because I want to see all these scumbag sorry excuses for humans to pay the consequences for what they did to Teresa.

        Andy Cohen hates women, it’s very obvious. He knows most of the viewers are women and he is not happy that most of us see right through him. He would be laughing his ass off if he knew we would all still watch the reunion. He thinks he’s clever. He wants to laugh at us for watching and taking the ratings up, with end result more money in his pocket.

        • AnnieMarie
          September 4, 2013 at 4:36 PM

          I, for one, won’t be contributing to their ratings. After this Saturday, no more Bravo. This will get me off the Bravo train. Going cold turkey without the temptation. :)

        • lalala
          September 4, 2013 at 6:22 PM

          I’ve come to this conclusion about Andy as well. His level of respect for women is so low and its glaringly obvious. He watched too many soap operas growing up and believes that Erica Kane represents all women. But it seems to be getting him more famous and more famous guests for his stupid show. He should be ashamed.

  42. AnnieMarie
    September 4, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    Tre should continue posting her RHONJ blogs onto her personal blog. She can speak more freely without the Bravo censor.

  43. September 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    This to me is downright disgusting. It’s sad that a person has to go to these lengths to destroy a family to get what they want. Fame will not keep her warm at night. Someday she will reap what she sows or as some people say that karma will come back on her; she will be all alone & bitter long after the cameras are gone and no one remembers who she was.

  44. difromnyc
    September 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Good lord. I gotta say it. This is all speculation. There’s no hard proof. Pictures do nothing for me and we’ve no guarantee that the source is credible and vetted. She’s been incorrect in comments on this site before. I’d take this with a grain of salt like I’d take ANYTHING these housewives fools say, imply or try to speculate.

    • bobby brooks
      September 6, 2013 at 11:24 AM

      Thank you for saying this, I can’t believe that this comment is actually being treated as fact on this site! It doesn’t even make sense, how would Melissa even know all of this info? I think this is a conspiracy theory that is getting ridiculous. It’s obvious what happened, the investigation started with the bankruptcy and the bankruptcy trustee that accused the Giudices of hiding assets, the US Bankruptcy Court is a federal court. That is how the feds got involved, and the investigation started with the bankruptcy. It would be easy to put the pieces together regarding income, taxes, W2’s and mortgages.

      People are getting carried away and suspending logic, it’s not good.

      • xjrsygrl7733
        September 7, 2013 at 5:01 PM

        The investigation did not start with the bankruptcy. It started with a lawsuit from Joe Giudices business partner who was being represented by The Chacons. The business partner who was also working with Joe Gorga & during the time when Melissa used to use her inlaws office! No one said Melissa was telling the truth but if you remember she was the one who contacted Danielle & was telling her all kinds of things about the Giudices finances half of which were lies. She then lied & said she never talked to Danielle but then had to admit it because there was proof. She did the same thing when Monica came to her party & said she knew Melissa but Mel denied it. Then she admitted it when she was confronted! The samr info that was told Danielle by Mel was the same info that KimG & Monica said also. Since they all heard it from Melissa.

        • September 7, 2013 at 6:33 PM

          TSIL used to use her inlaws office? Holy cow. Did someone say something before about her going through mail or papers at bryan Bulldog’s father’s house? Is that why she got thrown out? Was it Love she lived with at one point? She probably went through more than her closet.

    • xjrsygrl7733
      September 7, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      What comments have I been wrong about?

    • xjrsygrl7733
      September 7, 2013 at 5:10 PM

      And just so you know I’m not a housewife fool but have had to be subjected to the circus that Melissa & Joe Gorga have created where I am from & to my personal friends & family. None of my comments have been wrong. In fact everything I have commented on has then been proved during the next episode. So let me know where I have been incorrect in regards to things that have happened in my own life. Just like the other week when I commented on Jan & sushi lounge & I said there were many other people there that night who saw Melissa with her ex & then Jan said the exact same thing on the episode when it aired. I have been right about everything I have posted including time frames when Melissa met Joe, when she worked at Lookers, the trip to cancun, her getting her boob implants for free, being a teacher(which she wasn’t) & many others. So maybe you should check your facts or not make comments about me not being credible when you obviously are WRONG!!!!!

  45. Have2Say
    September 4, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Source or no source. I think we can all agree that no matter how this is spun it is all very, very sad. This is not a tit for tat thing going on here. The ramifications of what has been transpiring for years and the depths that some have gone to to defame and take down another is beyond human nature… it is evil at its finest. The Guidices have lost friendships, face jail time, their children safety, etc all at the hands of a selfish brother and a devil spawn for a SIL. Not to mention worthless cousins.

    How do they sleep at night is what I wonder? How do they seriously look in the mirror each day and like what they see? I only hope that Teresa finally sees her brother for what he’s worth and realizes that her blood is what has taken pleasure in bringing her world crumbling down.

    Very, very sad.

    • cantik
      September 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM

      I think both TSIL & TB have sold their soul/heart to the devil….that’s why they don’t have one

  46. LifeIsGood
    September 4, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Has Teresa been fired from Bravo? Heather Maclean posted this on Bravo last night.

    “Loooooong night. Heartbreaking. Ended well though, I think. Praying for a good tomorrow for everyone. xx”

    in the responses, someone asked if Teresa has been released from Bravo and she didn’t respond to it. Also, I think Heather has been wishing her friend would leave Bravo – that would explain the “ended well, I think” comment. This, combined with T posting her blog on her website instead of Bravo…. I know she has posted her blog on her website before, but in that instance, it was only after she posted it on Bravo and they edited it.

    They are taping the reunion today – maybe Bravo will let her “resign” during the reunion??? My curiosity is piqued!

    • NCGal
      September 4, 2013 at 5:00 PM

      I saw that tweet from Heather too, and wondered about it. If you read her (Heather’s) tweets from yesterday (9/3/13), there’s this in response to T’s tweet that her blog is up.

      Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean 22h

      Ka-blam! Good for you! xx RT @Teresa_Giudice MY RHONJ BLOG IS UP: http://teresagiudice.com/myblog/

      She also sort of goes on a rant about reality tv shows. Twitter just went down on me so I can’t find them right now.

  47. Luvfamewhorgas
    September 4, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    OMG! Maybe she gets up and leaves the reunion!?!?!?!

  48. LVgrl
    September 4, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    I can imagine Messy on the phone daily w/Chacon too! Ratting out any morsel of spending info she knew of..kinda predictable of her. Nasty girl!
    Jgorga meeting w/architect as he described all the new construction 2 Tre’s home, Jgorgas jealousy was apparant on camera then. But who could know they could b this evil, jeesh., he must have ran home like a ticking time bomb w/that info to rat out
    Wont kids in school hear bout all this & torture all their kids bout their parents activities? Breaks my heart! Bravo needs a “special emotional recovery of your parents deeds 4 make believe fame program” w/dr. V w/ these kids.

  49. lalala
    September 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    If this is true, maybe the people giving info were giving bad info (I’m hoping!) so maybe all those indictments won’t stick. I think it says in the post that not all of the info Meho gave was good and I am not one of those that believe an indictment must have rock-solid proof in order to be obtained.

    I’m really hoping this is just speculation and maybe Meho doing sneaky crap to get on the show is getting blow out of proportion but I have a deep feeling that it is true. Especially after Jac’s interrogation about being paid for articles – that seemed so strange, these indictments are the only thing that make sense about that.

    If it is true, wow, I have no words about these people – it’s almost too shocking to comprehend. I can understand the Unabombers brother turning him in but Joe Gorga doing this is beyond disgusting.

    As for her lawyer at the reunion, I would think he is there more to advise her if he thinks she shouldn’t answer a questions rather than having a whole segment?

    • September 7, 2013 at 7:12 PM

      Both sides requested a continuance. Joe Giudice other case has been postponed over and over. The right to a speedy trial will factor into this somehow. How many times can the State of New Jersey request a continuance before the case must be dismissed?

      “In practice, an accused has a much more difficult time asserting his speedy trial rights in New Jersey.”

      http://www.fuldlawoffices.com/1/post/2012/02/speedy-trial-rights.html

  50. jerry m
    September 4, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    I’m a little confused. Did the giudice’s break the law? He said she said is well and good but you still need evidence and for the feds to file 39 counts i’d say they have some evidence.

    • DD
      September 4, 2013 at 7:47 PM

      No you are not confused . No one is disputing that fact. However they are innocent until proven guilty. The concern is that several of the Guidice cast mates will lie and stretch the truth out of pure hatred. Which they have all demonstrated for 3 seasons now. Therefore tipping the justice scales of which we all know this is going to be a high profile case with the Guidice’s made an example of if they are proven guilty in a court of law.
      Also there is not a cast member on this program who has not been involved with illegal activities or that are awaiting trials themselves. Some much more than the Guidice’s. If you dissect a families life bit by bit, and piece by piece you are bound to find something. This was a witch hunt plan and simple. Orchestrated by all of the cast members against the Guidices. Even her own brother and his wife. All of their cast mates (Guidice family and friends) can thank the Guidices for the lifestyle they now all lead due to the success of this franchise. To be more poignant, due to the success of Teresa Guidice. She is the person that made the program what it was, and continues to be.

    • GPM
      September 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      Since we’re all “innocent until proven guilty,” I don’t think we will know if the Giudices broke the law until their trial is finished. There is apparently some evidence against them, but if they’re going to trial the Giudices must also have some evidence to offer on their own behalf. I think all anyone can do is keep an open mind and wait and see.

  51. Laker
    September 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    Umm what do you think of this tweet from Rich Wakile? Am I reading too far into it, or…?

    Richard Wakile ‏@richardwakile 1m
    Don’t you love when the so called shark gets eaten?
    Expand

  52. September 4, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Wondering if the looooong night was Heather and Teresa watching the remaining episodes of this Bravo heap of steaming crappola together before the reunion today? Teresa has more dignity and grace than a lot of people and I hope that she remains the lady she was taught to be during the filming of the last hurrah for season 5.

  53. NCGal
    September 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    Heather tweeted this in response to someone telling her to take a peak at this article:

    Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean 8m@JenGotClassNass I saw this. I really really hope it’s not true. I don’t think it is b/c no one could be that evil to their family. :/

  54. qb
  55. NCGal
    September 4, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Waiting for Million Dollar Listing to start, and I decided to take a closer look at Heather’s tweets from the last day or so. Two stand out:

    AliciaSays☞ ‏@aliciamc69 2 Sep
    @HeatherMaclean I didn’t like the way they showed the call…like Joe was AGAIN being shady & Tre comes running like she doesn’t trust J.

    Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean 2 Sep
    @aliciamc69 That was edited like crap too. Teresa is explaining it in her blog. Hopefully they let her tell the truth. :/

    “Hopefully they let her tell the truth” sounds like she is referring to Bravo. We know Teresa ended up posting her blog on her own website, not Bravo. So Bravo was probably NOT going to let her tell the truth.

    Then there is this one: CAPS are mine for emphasis

    AliciaSays☞ ‏@aliciamc69 2 Sep
    @HeatherMaclean @JenGotClassNass @evsmom Wish T,J &kids & Juicy’s fam had their own show. THAT would be fun 2 watch! Joe’s fam seems close.

    Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean 2 Sep
    @aliciamc69 @JenGotClassNass @evsmom Bravo won’t do it & TERESA WON’T DO A SHOW THAT KEEPS MAKING HER FAMILY LOOK BAD. Huge opp missed.

    I might be reading too much into these – but I can’t shake the felling I have that Teresa may just be done with RHONJ. Not that I blame her. She just may have reached the end of her rope.

    Any thoughts?

    • September 4, 2013 at 9:04 PM

      LovinLife ‏@Evrynameisgone 18h
      @HeatherMaclean I have a sneaking suspicion that Tre is released from Bravo…Am i close???

      Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean 1h
      @Evrynameisgone no not at all! I’d be celebrating then! ;)
      5:16 PM – 4 Sep 13

    • September 5, 2013 at 6:03 AM

      NCGal, this is totally off topic but are you from NC? Just curious because I am and it’s good to find a “neighbor” on here. I’m from the suburbs of Charlotte. If you are from NC, what part of the state are you from?

      Back on topic….I wouldn’t fault Teresa at all if she left but I don’t think that’s the case. I thought I read a tweet from someone who asked Heather outright and she said no. Also, didn’t Bravo and Andy insinuate that they wanted to begin filming asap just so they could “cover” the Giudice trial? That really is quite sickening. It’s like they are salivating at being able to use this trial for their benefit. They don’t give a damn about the Giudices but they sure want to benefit from their misfortune.

      • Kimmers
        September 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM

        I live on the Outer Banks of NC. Nice to see a fellow Carolinian.

        • September 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

          Hey Kimmers!! I love the Outer Banks. My parents go there every fall for a few weeks. Such a beautiful place.

      • September 6, 2013 at 1:33 AM

        Princess I know you were asking NCGak but I am in The QC as well.

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    • September 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM

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      • lalala
        September 4, 2013 at 9:13 PM

        Are you kidding? !?! Theryre a mortgage co?? Makes me ill. I find ‘loan officers’ to be the sleaziest of them all – they’re the ones who falsified documents, steered people into bad loans to pad their pockets – I have seen some who made $25k for a single closing. Would love to look thru their records. These peoplebetter be careful if they are giving info to law enforcement – will make them look closer at what they’re doing. The law knows if u know a littledirt u have some of ur own.

        • lalala
          September 4, 2013 at 9:25 PM

          Sorry – my disgust is reserved for the bad ones, I do know some who are decent ppl and I feel bad lumping them – and all the good ones – in with the scum!

      • September 4, 2013 at 9:37 PM

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        • Jeannie5233
          September 4, 2013 at 9:46 PM

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        • MurfsGirl
          September 4, 2013 at 10:06 PM

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          Re: Robert Hiza’s LinkedIn profile…no mention of a mortgage company.

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          Hiza & Hiza Certifield Public Accountants is a Tax, Accounting and Financial Consulting Firm located in Hawthorne, New Jersey.

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          Licensed as a Certified Public Accountant from the State of New Jersey.
          Member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants.
          Member of New Jersey Society of Certified Public Accountants.
          I am also a Certified Financial Planner.”

          • Jeannie5233
            September 4, 2013 at 10:18 PM

            From Kimberly Hiza’s LinkedIn page:

            Kimberly Hiza
            Owner at New Jersey Home Mortgage, LLC

            Greater New York City AreaAccounting

            Current
            New Jersey Home Mortgage, LLC,
            Hiza & Hiza, LLC

            Mortgage Broker

            New Jersey Home Mortgage, LLC
            February 2008 – Present (5 years 8 months)
            Our company’s philosophy is to obtain mortgages for our clients with the lowest possible interest rate, minimizing closing costs and providing exceptional customer service. We help our clients save money which allows them to be in a better position to afford their homes. As independent mortgage brokers we are not limited to dealing with one lender. We have the ability to search amongst many different lenders to obtain mortgages at reduced rates and pass those savings on to our clients. As a result, we offer our clients the best deals based on their personal needs.

            CPA

            Hiza & Hiza, LLC
            August 2003 – Present (10 years 2 months)

            • aaacccp
              September 4, 2013 at 10:24 PM

              Hope the Feds are watching them-no way the Marcos/Whorgas are on the up and up!

            • MurfsGirl
              September 4, 2013 at 10:26 PM

              We need to check the viability/validity of their licenses and corporation filings…i.e., are they current (through the Secretary of State office).

            • Lawd u gettin on my nerves
              September 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

              My my my what a tangled web we weave……

          • lalala
            September 7, 2013 at 10:15 AM

            Kim hiza is an active licensed mortgage broker in nj

  57. krazyjane
    September 4, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    To file a complaint against an attorney you contact the New Jersey State Bar. I felt that she was unethical in her behavior as well.

    • Anonymous
      September 4, 2013 at 10:12 PM

      The NJ Bar should refer you to NJ Disciplinary Board which handles complaints against attys.

  58. September 4, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    I need a morphine drip after reading this. Teresa and Joe should cut all these people out of their life and Bravo. KARMA is a bitch.

  59. September 4, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Any idea where the reunion taping was held?

    • September 5, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      Just sent you an email let me know if you get it please computer is a little funky for the last month or so. Thanks

  60. MurfsGirl
    September 4, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    I apologize for this heavy comment…but right now they are showing a documentary about the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and, of course, all of the innocent people lost on the four flights. I remember that day as if it was yesterday and how utterly life changing it was.

    To think that so many people STRUGGLED to survive that day snaps me back to reality and ultimately makes me realize that RHONJ is pure trash entertainment and nothing else.

    God save those cast members that would throw a family member under a bus in exchange for a few moments of fame…I think it’s more than just karma biting them in the butt.

    Again, I apologize for the heaviness.

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 4, 2013 at 10:01 PM

      It’s not heavy – it’s reality. I had never understood when folks would say they remember what they were doing when Kennedy was shot. I also never got when people talked about things going in slow motion. I remember so vividly standing on the long escalator just blankly staring at the overhead animated sign with the little sun that would pop up and then it would say “Good Morning! Welcome to the World Trade Center”. Then all hell broke loose.

      • MurfsGirl
        September 4, 2013 at 10:11 PM

        You have my heart, Jeannie. You are a calm spirit in a turbulent world.

        • Jeannie5233
          September 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM

          Well, that just floored me – oh, what a lovely thing to say! I am overwhelmed by all the kindness here. . . .

          • MurfsGirl
            September 4, 2013 at 10:31 PM

            You do have my heart!

      • MurfsGirl
        September 4, 2013 at 10:30 PM

        Sorry, Saddle River..my response should have been addressed to you.

        “You have my heart. You are a calm spirit in a turbulent world”.

        • Jeannie5233
          September 4, 2013 at 10:40 PM

          You are right MurfsGirl – SR is a calm spirit along with a wicked sense of humor too!! :)

        • Saddle_River_NJ
          September 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM

          Thanks Murphs – that is very sweet of you. That day did change me – but I came away blessed actually. I gained new appreciation for so many things. I had always been a “people person” and that grew as well. Two years later my grandmother passed away rather suddenly. I was able to make what little time there was left to us meaningful. I truly believe in looking past labels like race, religion, orientaion into the content of character as Dr. King said. I see so much wonder and joy in this world and just go apoplectic when I see something like the the Parking Lot Wraith and the misery she has spawned. I can’t comprehend it on so many levels. And I do fear for her – the evil she has unleashed is something that will end up consuming her very soul. But on a lighter note – this site is a large collection of lovely souls – especially our Jeannie. It’s rare and delightful to be part of such a nice group…

      • September 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvj6zdWLUuk For you Saddle (I know most don’t like country, but I love this song). I didn’t realize you were there, I can’t imagine. I was in my comfy bed trying to wake up and heard the news on the radio and was immediately glued to the TV for weeks.

      • September 5, 2013 at 8:01 AM

        I can only imagine how horrible it must have been. To be right there at the site.

        We were at the Clarion (it is now a Marriott I believe) on the corner of 5th Ave. and E. 40th.

      • September 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

        I will never forget where I was.

    • September 6, 2013 at 2:27 AM

      I remember where I was, my thoughts even before. I will never forget

  61. Jeannie5233
    September 4, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Fame mentions in this article: “There are at least 29 (not counting the federal government) versus two in this grand conspiracy against the Giudices (click here for the list).”

    Because of the breadth of this list, I think it is worth republishing it here so we all can see just what the Giudices have been up against for the last three years and beyond. It is mind-boggling:

    Joe Gorga (blood relative of Teresa and her children who told her that “you need to fall”)
    Kathy Wakile (blood relative of Teresa and her children)
    Rosie Pierri (blood relative of Teresa and her children
    Richie Wakile
    The Wakile Children (blood relatives of Teresa and her children)
    Melissa Gorga
    Donna Marco (Melissa’s mother)
    Lysa Simpson (Melissa’s sister)
    Kim Pirrella (Melissa’s sister)
    Joe Pirrella (Kim’s husband)
    Lou Marco Orlick (Melissa’s aunt)
    George Miguel Costa (Melissa’s makeup artist)
    Tara Bogota (Melissa’s cousin)
    Caroline Manzo
    Albie Manzo
    Christopher Manzo
    Lauren Manzo
    Jacqueline Laurita
    Chris Laurita
    Ashlee Holmes
    Bonnie Grippe (Jacqueline’s mother)
    Greg Bennett
    Sheila Marino-Giudice (Teresa’s SIL who finally came to her senses and left the dark side to support Teresa)
    Kim Granatell
    Monica Chacon
    Kim Hiza
    Tom Murro
    Caroline Self
    Cat Rodriguez
    Andy Cohen

    • ihateandy
      September 6, 2013 at 8:46 PM

      thats a long list…why r they all ganging up? what r they gonna gain? any idea?

  62. September 4, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    OK People I am addicted I am on here 3 or 4 times a day reading Fame blog and posts. I can’t get enough. I am an addict. I want T and Joe to be with their children and raise these girls. They are such happy kids. I love watching scenes from their home.

    • September 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      Meho … your not a true FW addict until you just leave the site up and refresh to see if there is a new article and/or more comments. LOL

      • Mehonogo
        September 4, 2013 at 11:50 PM

        LMAO

      • AnneMarie
        September 5, 2013 at 12:48 AM

        Ahh, that means I am an addict! :)

        • September 5, 2013 at 8:37 AM

          Between my candycrush addiction and FW I don’t get much housework done lol

          • AnnieMarie
            September 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM

            Hahaha, I consider myself lucky for not getting into the candy crush craze, but I know soo many people that are!

          • September 6, 2013 at 1:47 AM

            I resemble that statement lol

      • tulip
        September 5, 2013 at 5:42 AM

        I do the same thing! I keep refreshing page checking for more comments! LOL! I love love love this site!

        • Dubbalicious
          September 5, 2013 at 8:37 AM

          My name is Dana. And I’m addicted to FW. I’m also guilty of refreshing the page multiple times…daily. Ok, maybe hourly. Lol. :)

          • my6girls2012
            September 5, 2013 at 8:52 AM

            LOL Count me in as one of the “refreshers”!

            • Anonymous
              September 5, 2013 at 9:22 AM

              Me three…….my husband wants to know what I’m always reading. I also had
              him listen to “no can sing
              Tsil” authentic song and then the autotoned. He was so shocked. I told him imagine who else is pulling this stunt.

              the authentic song

  63. September 4, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    I just added the following to this blog (with more photos):

    Kim G and Monica Chacon sat at the table with Kathy, Melissa and Melissa’s sisters at the Posche fashion show in season 3 episode 2 (see photos below). This was at the very beginning of the Gorgas and Wakiles first season – how did they get so close to Kim G so quickly? Because they had known her for a while, although earlier in the same episode Melissa and Kathy pretended to have met her for the first time at the Posche boutique, where Kim G said to them about Teresa, “She doesn’t know who she’s messing with,” and neither of them called her out on it. When Teresa saw Kim G sit down at Melissa’s table at the PFS, she asked, “Why is Kim G talking to my sister-in-law? It’s just weird that my sister-in-law’s friends with her.”

    In the same episode (season 3 episode 2), before the PFS, Kim G came over to Melissa’s home (photo below), and they all went out clubbing on Halloween, Kathy included – they talked smack about Teresa the entire time. While they were out clubbing, Teresa threw a Halloween party for a group of 20 kids at her home, expressing that she wished her brother would have brought his kids over.

  64. alley
    September 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    I freakin knew it, Melissa Marco and Joe gorga were so camera happy when they first got on the show. I always knew these two were untrustworthy but I never thought they would do something so evil that would destroy a family and hurt the lives of young little girls like this. I wonder if Teresa has read this article yet and if not, someone should tweet her a link to this website because this is some serious serious stuff. Ofcourse, Melissa will deny all of this too, she and Joe are equally evil they DO deserve eachother. I hate Melissa and Joe gorga, they are filthy people.

    • September 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM

      I don’t know if you can answer this question but why did Kim G. turn on Danielle when it was Kim G. who was backstabbing Danielle? Did it have to do with TSIL? Alley, brought up the first couple of episodes with the Gorga’s and I remember TSIL inviting Kim G. to go clubbing with them on Halloween. I’m wondering if that was TSIL and TB’s way of taunting Tre? I’m sure Tre knew that Kim G. was BFF’s with Monica C.. I wonder if Kim G. was telling Jaq what the pathological liar, TSIL, was telling her? Maybe that’s why Jaq was so keen to turn on Tre? Why do the Manzo’s dislike the Giudice’s so much? And, why do the Manzo’s like TB?

      • September 6, 2013 at 2:40 AM

        I don’t know if this is correct but:
        Kim G was using DS to get on the show for several reasons: fame and to get at Caroline. Even though the boys are besties the mom’s do not care for each other. All KG wanted to do was be C’s friend she said this during the seasons she was on.
        KG also wanted to get at TG because she is friends with the Manzos(C)/Lauritas/Manzos(Dina) and T is not old money which is what KG at least pretends to be. So KG did not understand why M and L and M were friends with her.
        KG turned on DS when she was no longer useful to her.
        I wonder if KG was not trying to get something on all the Manzo’s and the Laurita’s and got info in T instead. KG wanting to be a famewhorga herself thought she could get on the show by bringing down the Manzos and Lauritas. There is no back story as too why she dislikes the Giudices.

        • September 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

          Thanks for the info!

      • alley
        September 6, 2013 at 3:37 PM

        Yeah, I actually think your more on point than I and I’ve been watching since season 1 :) I really do believe Melissa stirred the pot for a lot of people “behind the scenes” since 2009 and I would love to watch Danielle make somewhat of a comeback and tell everyone including the viewer’s what Kim g was plotting with Monica chacon. Kim g and Danielle were friends for a minute so I bet she knows alot of what Kim g, Monica and Melissa were beginning to do to Teresa back then.

  65. September 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    There is a special place in hell for these people. This is just disgusting. DISGUSTING!! What kind of a brother allows this to go on? This is his sister, his nieces, his brother-in-law. And can you imagine what his parents must feel like? This makes me so mad. At this point, I couldn’t care less about trying to mend this “relationship” with TB and TSIL. It is time to cut all ties to them. I’m sorry but these people are garbage. They are liars. And anyone that would do this to another human being, much less his own sister, shows just how nasty they are. Truly sick. I wouldn’t let my daughters near them. These people have plotted against the Guidices all this time. Why would anyone want to make up with them at this point? I wonder how they all sleep at night? I know that my conscience eats at me when I say something bad about someone until I make it right. But TB and TSIL have no conscience. It doesn’t bother them one bit. All they seem to care about is themselves. I cannot fathom doing this to anyone. You think that family would be there and protect you. No matter what. This is just beyond me. And then you watch them all say that are there for the Guidices and they want to help them. Are you kidding me?!? What are they going to do, help them fall off a cliff? I am done after this season. I feel dirty watching these parasites, esp after reading this. I really do hope that Teresa and Juicy are able to come out on the other side with some good news. Unfortunately, I think they will be made an example. And every single parasite on this show will have dirty hands. I sure hope they can live with themselves. I know that if it were me, I couldn’t. But I am not a sociopathic, twisted human being like the garbage in this article. Sorry for the rant. I just have a hard time believing that your own blood could do this to his sister. Makes me want to go throw up.

    • September 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      I agree with you! What makes TB worse than the fictional, Fredo Corleone, is how he continues to set his sister up in front of the world! I think back to the S4 reunion when he looked like a puffed up dough boy screaming and crying, (paraphrasing) “you took my parents away from me! My kids don’t have their grandparents because of you!” while Chris and Caroline coddled him! That scene was so disgusting when I think about it. Here, all along, TB knew how he was stabbing his sister and her family in the back! He knew federal charges were pending against them at that time thanks to his nasty mouth and his skanks jealousy! Yet, he continued to play the victim knowing what he did! I hope he does read these posts! Once the general public (non-HW viewers) get wind of what this low down, rat, scum did to his own blood he won’t be welcome in very many places. I hope TSIL does leave him for another man, a real man with money (I pity the man who takes her in, though!). i hope she takes his kids and let’s her family raise them. Then, TB will be all alone. He won’t have very many friends, if any at all, because he won’t be trusted. His sister might be locked up, and his parents will disown him. His father, Giacinto Gorga, didn’t come to America to have his family torn apart by his pantsy azz son! I bet his parents are heartbroken by what TB allowed his wife to do to his sister! I hope TB’s little heart is broken knowing what he did to his own blood for a “whore on a stroll” who used him for money and fame. I really don’t see TSIL sticking by TB’s side when word of his betrayel gets out. TSIL will just play the victim and blame everything on TB. Now, I can see why his own father, the man that raised him, looks down on him like trash!

    • js
      September 6, 2013 at 2:17 AM

      You said what I wanted to say. Allthose scenes made no sense to me. The Gorgas getting shown as fun & loving made no sense bc I could see they were evil towards Teresa. STILL dont get the hatred

  66. September 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    What are they going to do, help them fall off a cliff? … oh no they pushing them off the cliff and smiling, it’s disgusting.

    • September 5, 2013 at 2:24 AM

      You’re right about that, mzjulesaz. I should have worded it that way.

  67. September 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    I don’t have twitter but can someone please tell Andy Cohen that we are all looking forward to Caroline giving her thoughts on Lauren’s comment she made about Teresa’s kids being raised by wolves. Bitch

    • September 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      At the reunion

  68. meri4911
    September 4, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    And don’t forget it was bravo that aired all the comments probing Tre about her spending and the $ she made from magazines. The producers had the dirt and used it to destroy Tre and Juicy. It is so disgusting that I can’t even fathom how low people can be.

    Little joe is a disgusting excuse for a human being if this is true. I don’t think Teresa will ever even contemplate that her own brother would so this to her, though. It would kill her.

    Kudos to Tre for posting her blog on her own site. A big F U to being a good employee to Bravo! Finally, the straw that broke the camels back, the BS editing at the ranch along with realizing how she was set up legally.

    Praying for Tre, Juicy, and their daughters.

  69. September 4, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    OMG last year was 12 hours for taping, this year 15 — OMG, poor Teresa.

    • AnneMarie
      September 5, 2013 at 12:52 AM

      15??

      • September 5, 2013 at 2:26 AM

        Does anyone know how many episode are left before the reunion?

        • AnnieMarie
          September 5, 2013 at 11:58 AM

          I think someone up thread said four. But not sure.

  70. RabbleRouser
    September 5, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    ‘Monica Chacon should be disbarred since she constantly breaks client confidentiality! She talks about the Giudice case all over Jersey to whoever will listen, which, I think, is not what a lawyer is supposed to do.’

    SERIOUSLY??? Is that a joke? A confidentiality agreement is between a lawyer and their client. Since Monica didn’t work for them…there is no breech. To infer that an attorney has never made disparaging remarks in the press or other wise against someone they are prosecuting ( or are suing on behalf of a client) is really reaching.

    Did Monica perhaps use bad judgment by agreeing to appear on a show when she knew that her husband was representing someone who was suing a person (Joe Gu) who appeared on the show? Meh…depends on who you ask. Lawyers also write books about people the prosecuted or defended .

    I can get calling Melissa or Joey Go out if it’s true they snitched their own blood out…but seriously trying to shame Monica is ridiculous as the bottom line is Joe Gudice did in fact fraudulently sign his ex partners name on a loan agreement.

    • Sackem
      September 5, 2013 at 12:49 AM

      I understand client privilege, what I don’t get is why Monica if it’s her HUSBAND representing the ex business partner. Am I missing something?

      I get that people will do all types of things to get a bit of fame but this is kinda evil…. I just…. IF it did go down this way then WHY? This shit is beyond TV, beyond sprinkle cookies, beyond Granny comments, beyond singles… this is just EVIL.

      The thing that throws me is the accountant. I doubt everyone in their smallish town/village what have you knew about Teresa’s finances did Juicy share contacts as well as advice?

      • RabbleRouser
        September 5, 2013 at 1:01 AM

        Hi Sackem, I honestly don’t know why Monica inserted herself in the case unless she was sitting co chair or did work on the sidelines. Did she want to end up getting cast on the show? Maybe…but the same can be said about ever single one of the hangers on that are on that show.

        The behavior from most of the people hoping to get cast a ‘friend’ or those wanting to make the transition to full time house wife, I actually find more deplorable than that of the actual full time cast members.

        I have a feeling the accountant and his wife were trying to make themselves interesting for the show. I actually think Joe Go looked a bit irritated by some of the comments that were being made about his sister (While Mel looked like she was eating it up).

        • Sackem
          September 5, 2013 at 1:22 AM

          I don’t think this randomly happened to the Giudices, it seems like they were outted by someone – I just don’t understand the whole need to focus in on one family by the cast (I’m fresh from reading Teresa’s blog, includes her calling a few people out). It just gets deeper and uglier and harder for me to rationalise that family and friends would be involved in such a conspiracy.

          This is a real head scratcher for me. I’m not turning to the dark side, I’m just totally puzzled over the WHY. Without rational cause, it leaves me in two minds.

          • Sackem
            September 5, 2013 at 1:24 AM

            PS I totally think Missy was pals with them… Kim G was drawn to filming and drama like a moth to a flame… I wouldn’t be surprised if she went looking for Missy once Missy pushed herself onto Danielle for screentime. Kim G doesn’t strike me as a stepping stone. Crafty and scheming yes but not a way onto the show when she had Danielle’s attention.

            • Sackem
              September 5, 2013 at 1:57 AM

              PPS are we there yet? When’s this yawn of a season over?

              • RabbleRouser
                September 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

                I think there is about 4 more episodes of this snooze fest…then the reunion.

                I think the fight with JTG and the rest will be totally scrubbed.

          • RabbleRouser
            September 5, 2013 at 2:28 AM

            I don’t think any of this just randomly happened the Guidice’s either. The bottom line is they singed their names on a bankruptcy petition that was full of lies and/or in inaccuracies.

            There was a trustee assigned to their case that was getting lots of info from people, most of which told him to watch the show. If the Guidice’s were idiotic or arrogant enough to spend several hundreds of thousands of dollars with in several weeks of a bankruptcy filling they really need to be questioning themselves before they put the blame at somebody elses door.

            Do I think Monica gave info to the feds to help them make their case…I sure do..that doesn’t mean that she was the one to drop the dime on them. The Guidice’s brought this scrutiny on themselves by being on the show. Just as Jac L claims that her back taxes are a result of being audited..

            I really don’t think Joe Go wants to see his sister in jail, as pussy whipped as he is he just doesn’t have the composure to pull off being that kind of snitch. That isn’t the way he lashes out…when Joey is mad..he throws things, he yells and acts like a total barbarian.

            Melissa is more of the one to make a concerted effort to get back at someone.

            • GPM
              September 5, 2013 at 11:58 AM

              Just to be clear, the Giudices signed their names on a two-page petition that included summary information. There were 60 pages of schedules providing the details supporting the two-page summary that would have been filed separately and electronically by their attorney.

              I find it difficult to believe that a bankruptcy trustee would base any of his or her opinions on REALITY TV — and I sincerely hope they didn’t! I’m sure there were ridiculous people constantly suggesting that they do but most serious professionals would brush off such a suggestion as (1) it’s scripted and (2) it’s edited for entertainment value.

              Monica Chacon has been reported as taking credit for bringing the Giudices to the attention of the U.S. Attorney, but I agree that it was likely an IRS agent, spouse or family member watching the show where Teresa reputedly paid a hundred thousand dollars in cash that brought them to the attention of the U.S. Attorney.

              I couldn’t help but notice that the heading in the press release put out by by the U.S. Attorney’s office emphasized that they were on TV – “Stars Of ‘Real Housewives Of New Jersey’ Television Series Indicted On Fraud And Tax Charges.” That’s probably why, among the tens of thousands of people who took out liars loans — often at the behest of their loan brokers and with the brokers themselves completing the application information — the Giudices were singled out for prosecution.

              • Saddle_River_NJ
                September 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM

                When was the last time a *client* drafted a petition and assembled all the schedules and exhibits? Any attorney doing due diligence would carefully inspect any documents provided by the client for inclusion in the filing. I am soooo tempted to log on to PACER and see exactly what was filed

              • RabbleRouser
                September 6, 2013 at 2:03 AM

                Hi GPM,
                While I can understand your scrutiny thinking that a bankruptcy trustee would base any of his findings based on what appeared on reality tv, that actually happened. The Guidance';s were accused of hiding assets on their bankruptcy filling including a 200k advance Teresa got for her first cook book. and really a trustee should turn over every stone. In the same vein as Taylor Armstrong having to give over her engagement ring and what turned out to be fake Heme’s bags. So a bankruptcy trustee using the show as proof that they were hiding assets isn’t really that much of a stretch, especially give that supposedly the Feds want raw footage to see if their is anything the Bravo camera’s may have picked up.

                If what is being said about the Feds wanting raw footage. I can see a trustee wanting the fame thing.

      • xjrsygrl7733
        September 7, 2013 at 5:50 PM

        No one really knows why but Monica herself said she was going after the Giudices during season 3 & she recently did an interview claiming responsibility in getting the Giudices Indicted. Monica seems to have a personal issue with Teresa but what it is, I don’t think anyone really knows.

    • xjrsygrl7733
      September 7, 2013 at 5:47 PM

      The 2nd sentence did not pertain to the 1st. The 2nd sentence was my opinion!!!!! You obviously didn’t get my point in that statement so go reread it & the rest of what I wrote in my other posts. That women is not a good representative of how a lawyer should act & that has been proven over & over & that is how I feel which is what I said! It didn’t have anything to do with the 1st sentence, which is true since she breaks confidentiality on many cases she has been involved in. I don’t need you to educate me on being a lawyer or what things mean since I have a few degrees myself. Monica did an interview a few weeks ago gloating about how she got the Giudices indicted. SHE SHAMED HERSELF!! I was saying I don’t think she should do that, & she shouldn’t! That’s my opinion & I can say whatever I want about her & you don’t get to tell me how I should feel or what I should do. You don’t like it than don’t read it!

  71. LVgrl
    September 5, 2013 at 2:27 AM

    on another note – J&CLaurita JGorga & JtheGreek in court 2day @ 4:30pmEST – just sayin..should b interesting. Terroristic threats, assault? wow, what 15mnts can bring!

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

      If I have time I’m going to try and swing by Village Hall to see what transpires….

      • September 5, 2013 at 9:24 AM

        Let us know ,hope you are well today.

      • September 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM

        OOOH…I hope you are able to go!

    • September 5, 2013 at 4:09 PM

      I heard it got postponed as one of lawyers was sick. Does anyone know?

  72. Patricia
    September 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM

    never thought I would witness first hand a mass murder play out on TV.. The ability to hate so deeply is beyond me for grasping it.

  73. LT
    September 5, 2013 at 3:42 AM

    That narcisstic, funny looking, horsey-faced bitch, and her stupid, pussy-ass husband, will NEVER get away with this! They may be on cloud nine right now, but you can’t be this foul and not pay the piper! Meldussa and Josephine is so fame-thirsty, they’re willing to risk Teresa and Joe being taken away from their children, just for the spotlight; it can’t get any worse than that! When you’re this sick and wicked, you will DEFINITELY reap what you sow! It may not happen today, and it may not happen tomorrow, but u can best be sure, THEY WILL GET EVERYTHING BACK TO THEM A 1000 TIMES OVER!!!!

    Melissa was fuming with jealousy over Teresa being on RHONJ, and it was tearing her up inside. She wanted fame and a piece of the pie so badly, she used her brainless husband to go against HIS OWN SISTER to help her trifling ass! Josephine is so dumb, he doesn’t realize she’s using his lame ass also!

    And why did the banana-faced, talentless troll, felt as though we wanted to see HER, is beyond me! She’s is talentless, and is of no substance. She brings ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE SHOW, except for fake singing, wearing bikinis when she’s not getting enough attention, and blaming Teresa for EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN!! As a narcissist, trying to viciously destroy another human being doesn’t bother Meldussa in the least, but for Josephine, I hope it was all worth it in the end. You sold your soul to the devil for a piece of ass, and 5 minutes of fame. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC!!!!!

    • September 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM

      Your so right about TSIL not bringing anything to the show. I think the reason Chris, Richie and TB get TH’s is help out their boring azz wives! Well, Chris might get one so Child Protective Services can see that he appears sane! Tre can take her kids grocery shopping and that one scene can make the whole episode watchable! Can you imagine watching TSIL go grocery shopping with her kids? TSIL appears to get annoyed with her kids who aren’t that bad! I do believe that the Gorga’s sold their soul to the devil for fame. They better watch out, though, because you never know when the devil will come for his payday!

  74. DD
    September 5, 2013 at 6:55 AM

    Just a thought. Do you think that Al is shunning Don C due to the possibility that she is involved in this whole debacle? We all know that Al is from a family deep rooted in Organized Crime. Therefore one can only assume he is too. The elaborate lifestyle enjoyed by Don C and her “cling on” children, along with the expensive home and now apartment are financed by income from the Brownstone? . In the few seasons the production crew were trying their hardest to portray this family as the Cleavers. At that time Al was going along with the whole debacle. Remember he bought Don C a Rolls Royce. What changed? It is rumored he has been having an extramarital affair for 10 years.

    Kathy and her disgusting husband I have no doubt are involved; What about Rosie? She is Kathy’s sister. Would she feed the Guidice’s information on what was going on? Her hate for Tre has come out in so many ways over, and over again. Actually rage. Why all of sudden are Joe Guidice and Rosie all “rosey posey” Things that make you go HMMMMMMM. I believe in Arizona when Joe shared with the group about “lawyers and all” as a concern he was in the know of what was going on. Who tipped him off? Possibly Rosey? How could anyone look in those 4 beautiful little girls eyes and try to send their mother away from them? No one benefits from this.

    Meho and TB no doubt at all they would both do this. We have covered this an every aspect in depth of which I still am in awe over what type of slime these two are.

    Now Wacko Jacko I definitely believe she and Chris would do anything to get out of the mess they are in. .I will say I think she is feeling like an absolute shit right now over what she has done. As you saw in Arizona Tre giving her a hug. Tre is a very compassionate, and loving person. Who forgives someone for doing what Jac has done? Wacko Jacko would do anything when she is drunk, and in a pissed off mood. Also from what I am getting Joe Guidice has some shade to throw on Chris. Being the “shady” character Chris is. These two have to be the most suspect of everyone. They have so much to lose and they are not stupid like Meho, and TB. Tre and Jac were best friends for 10 years. There is no doubt with Tre’s personality that she shared everything with Jac prior to her bankruptcy. Jac would throw her under bus to save herself and we all know it. Or could Jac and Chris be willing to reconcile due to worry over the Guidice’s making a plea deal and turning them in as well. As we all know they are much bigger fish to fry then the Guidices.

    At this point I personally think they are all involved at one level or another. Either feeding someone or going directly to the Feds. This all makes me sick. With friends and family like this who needs enemies?

    • RahRah
      September 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      This is what I am starting to feel:

      Once all the backstabbers and their dirty deeds have been exposed, none of them will be able to look Teresa in the face but it will give Teresa the juice to severe ties with her brother and I believe her parents will go along, because they will see how much Teresa truly will need them, they will think about their Gorga grandchildren but remember they’re an extension of their parents.

      I am a person obsessed with the truth (my weakness) and are people ever really truthful? I don’t think Teresa and Joe have done anything any other married couple has done. When I went shopping for new furniture after my marriage I had cash baby, we weren’t financing furniture we had the cash–some people do set aside cash for activities.

      What I am glad about–I believe Teresa will forgive them but she really will be done with them, I pray it doesn’t kill her father because that will make it way worse. After this it wouldn’t surprise me if the Guidice’s moved to Italy for good.

  75. September 5, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    Teresa commented on twitter that she is “home with her loved ones and going to sleep happy” not verbatim, but the message is loud and clear that things went well for her.

    • NCGal
      September 5, 2013 at 7:21 AM

      So far, she is the only HW that has tweeted after the reunion, which surprises me. It was late, true but Jac is twitter crazy. Richie deleted the tweet mentioned upthread about the shark being eaten.

      • September 5, 2013 at 7:27 AM

        Hope all is well with Teresa, don’t care about the rest.

        • September 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM

          Heather Maclean ‏@HeatherMaclean 8h
          Happy, Happy, Happy. All’s well that ends well. ;)

          This tweet from 8 hours ago looks pretty good.

          • NCGal
            September 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM

            This from Jac just a few minutes ago

            Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 8m
            Yesterday was a great day but VERY long!

            • September 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

              I think Jac will have a LONG today today—if you know what I mean ;-)

              • Saddle_River_NJ
                September 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM

                Judge Pfund has no patience for fools…

                • September 5, 2013 at 10:52 AM

                  Hope she is sober!

    • September 5, 2013 at 10:52 AM

      Praise the Lord. I pray this the beginning of breaking the chains that have held her in bondage for so long.

  76. Anonymous
    September 5, 2013 at 8:47 AM

    I am really curious …the Hizas are mortgage brokers who were portrayed as the Gorgas accountants? Seriously? Maybe they need to be investigated. The Gorga mortgage loans are one seriously tangled mess. I don’t know a single accountant who would advise a client to sign on the dotted line for that hot mess.

  77. September 5, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    This next episode is called “Zen Things I Hate About You.” The episode after that is called “The Blonde Drops A Bombshell.”
    So who will Penny go after? She did have a sit-down with the Marcos-right?

  78. September 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Happy Rosh Hashana to all of the Jewish posters.

    • September 5, 2013 at 9:40 AM

      I’m not Jewish–but this is very thoughtful!

    • Honnie Badger
      September 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM

      Thank you so much, Moma! And L’Shana Tovah to you and your lovely family!

  79. September 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Look what I found:

    “Hate the Wench says:

    May 10, 2012 at 8:02 am

    “It’s all public record”
    Oh and the buildings he bought in Patterson he was showing off in his “kids names” are buildings actually co-owned with Bob Hiza. (He was shown last season at a dinner the Wakiles and Gorgas had together)”
    So…. the Hizas must be crooked also..IMO..what the heck? How can we know if this is true???

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM

      These are the properties co-owned by Bob Hiza and Joe Gorga:

      141 E HOLSMAN ST
      230-232 SUMMER ST
      9-11 GODWIN AVE
      8 12TH AVE
      141 16TH AVE
      757 E 18TH ST
      784 E 18TH ST
      32-34 PEARL ST
      92 CHADWICK ST
      129 MADISON ST

      Several of them are literally identical buildings, thrown up on vacant lots in “distressed” neighborhoods

      230-232 Sumner and 757 E 18th St are cheaply constructed 2 family houses. Google them and look at the street views. These men aren’t developers – they are good old fashioned SLUM LORDS with decrepit, run-down properties.

      Pigs….

      • September 5, 2013 at 10:10 AM

        Wow….this is horrible.

        • September 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

          I wanna see, I wanna see *.*

      • September 5, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        So these are the people TB is in bed with.

      • September 5, 2013 at 11:22 AM

        Those are horrible!

        • corky21
          September 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM

          The worse looking houses I’ve ever seen. What is with two windows side/side on only one side, who thought up that idea? Ugly, but then they probably figured two larger windows balanced were more money than two smaller ones side by side. Did you read the sign, own this house, no money down. They are disgusting.

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            September 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM

            No money down to buy one of those dumps? I’m sure Gorga Construction uses Hiza Real Estate to point buyers to Hiza Mortgage for a no money down mortgage. Not far from those posh, luxurious homes are some used car lots that let you “pay here”. I’m sure that’s what the Hiza/Gorga bunch are doing. Paying pennies for garbage strewn lots. Throwing up those clone-like houses and then structuring some dubious “rent to own” scenario. Honestly – (and I don’t in *any* way mean to disparage the hard working people who actually live in those area) I don’t know of that many legitimate banks/lenders that would write a loan in one of those areas. Something is definitely creepy when you have an unlicensed builder (who dresses like Bob the Builder for the camera in his *spotless* safety hat) putting up these crappy looking houses in partnership with a realtor/broker/mortgage co in highly distressed areas.

            • ihateandy
              September 6, 2013 at 8:55 PM

              ah!! logical dot connection there. wonder if TB does use Hiza to fund construction?

          • September 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM

            They aren’t the worst I have seen, but for someone who pretends to have so much money and success, they sure aren’t very well maintained. You’d think they would at least throw up some cheap blinds! I have rentals in some not so great areas and know how hard it is to keep up with everything when you have tenants that have no respect for their homes, but with all the money Joey claims to have, basic maintenance should not be an issue… I didn’t see the sign. I was at work when I looked and it was about time for me to leave, so I was hurrying through them :D

      • roze3563
        September 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM

        omg I just looked up godwin and chadwick what a—holes

      • September 5, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        I have no problem believing that when the Hiza/Chacon/Gorga connections become pubic knowledge and hit the radar (just like the Guidices did) then a couple of interesting things could happen. The ethics of Hiza/Chacon businesses are investigated (like exactly where they got the info being used against the Guidices) and cases are built against them. So now they can offer up the Gorgas to save their shady asses. Since Joey was taught the “business” by Juicy, who has doubts that Joey didn’t do the same things that the Guidice’s did and are indicted for now? Melissa will definitely turn on her husband. And I have no problem believing that the Gorgas will offer up the Wakiles and/or Lauritas to help lessen the indictments that will be coming their way.
        It is a total house of cards for everyone on RHNJ. They have no principals or old school family beliefs – rats know enough to jump a sinking ship and shady “business people” know that if they offer a bigger fish to the authorities, they can lessen the charges coming their way.
        We may not see these things transpire during the course of RHNJ, but I do believe that they will all go down for what they have done.

      • September 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        Those are disgusting!

      • September 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM

        Dissgusting!

      • Miami53
        September 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM

        The one at 142 E Holsman st is the worst….and yes, those windows are very strange. In our state, you can own and rent to Section 19 (I believe,) you don’t have to worry too much for the rent because the government pays you automatically. Alot of people do that…you can make a great living. You have to follow their strict regulations.

      • September 6, 2013 at 3:05 AM

        wow. is this legal in NJ?

  80. Saddle_River_NJ
    September 5, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    What the hell is wrong with GrannyPants? Does an adult actually post stuff like that?!? I can see a brain dead teenager posting crap like that – but doesn’t Kim have a clue about what this says about her? She can prattle on and on about her fancy house and how rich she is – but she is showing a *public* side that is repulsive and disgusting. She claims she is a “socialite”?!? Really??? I know what a *real* socialite is. It is about gentility, compassion and consideration. About understanding about paying forward any good fortune you might have. For that dried up old hag to make such horrid comments about *anyone* shows that she is just a conniving little slut from Rockland that fucked her way into money. Money don’t buy class you creaky old bat. Just like the Toms River Harpie, she better be damned scared of what her payback is going to be like…

    • September 5, 2013 at 9:59 AM

      When karma knocks on her door all hell is going to break loose. Her Grandchildren will see her on that pole someday…… :-(

    • difromnyc
      September 5, 2013 at 10:45 AM

      Mego should take a good look at Grannypants. That’s the future she seems to want.

      • September 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

        I was thinking the same thing, Difromynyc! She’ll be using her kids to make friends!

        • September 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM

          ,,,,,,can you imagine what little Antonia will have to endure when she starts bringing boys home….yep, I went there!!! *.*

    • corky21
      September 5, 2013 at 12:57 PM

      That’s right Saddle! Disgusting.

    • September 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      Can’t imagine she fucked her way into high society. She was either ugly from the get go or aged very badly. She acts like an animal on social media. I would say I feel sorry for her kids, but evidently they are just as bad as she is.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        September 5, 2013 at 4:58 PM

        We actually do have some legitimate society folks around here. Trust me a worn out old purse like Kim would never be accepted. And mind you it’s not silly snobbery – there are some phenomenal “old hens” around here that just don’t tolerate behavior like hers. I remember dear old Dot. The woman drove around in a beat up Chrysler Fifth Avenue that never saw the inside of a car wash. Her crazy wigs never were on straight. This is a woman that *turned down* offers from Trump to buy some of her holdings. Loved her charities and loved people. The room would light up with her love when she came in. She typifies what a “society dame” actually is here in North Jersey. They would never be mean or rude to a “Kim”, but you can be damned sure she would never be allowed into their circle.

        She fucked her way into money and that’s it. The only difference between Kim and a regular hooker is that she only does one man for her money.

        • September 5, 2013 at 10:22 PM

          Dear old Dot sounds like an amazingly interesting old lady! I read about her carpet padding on your other comments…wow!!!

    • September 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      The answer to what is wrong with GrannyPants.

      “Just Ask Any Old Gold Digging Hoochie!” By Lance Scurvin

      http://www.lancescurv.com/just-ask-any-old-gold-digging-hoochie/

  81. September 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Si is Kim G’s ex-husband in the mob?

    • September 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM

      *So

    • difromnyc
      September 5, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      No. His family owns Grant Industries. http://grantcolors.com/about

      From what I understand they’re not divorced but separated.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        September 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

        They are separated. Her husband would owe the viper a fortune in a divorce. She keeps herself busy banging Tom Murro in her spare time. Poor little gigilo – having to service the Crypt Keeper to get his pin money…

        • corky21
          September 5, 2013 at 12:58 PM

          LMAO! Crypt keeper. so true.

        • September 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM

          LOL Danielle might have square boobs, but there are no words to describe Grannypants’ “rear view” – on or off a pole.

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            September 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM

            Its easy to describe – just fill an old pillowcase with rancid cottage cheese and sawdust. That’s the approximate look and feel of her ass. (Tom Murro accidently tweeted that in a drunken stupor)

            • GPM
              September 5, 2013 at 2:12 PM

              Did he really tweet that?!?

              • Saddle_River_NJ
                September 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM

                No, but I could imagine him doing that after a night of passion with that old bag of dust and feeling *so* filthy in the morning…

                • Detroitrockcity
                  September 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

                  Ewwwwa,Hahaha!!! You are tooo funny!!;)

                  • September 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

                    gosh I hope they never put a breathalyzer on my computer…..I crack myself up drunk “posting” *.*

        • September 5, 2013 at 3:20 PM

          I would thing that having to bang Kim Granatell is a fate worse than death for most men. Didn’t Michael Lohan throw himself through a plate glass window and off a balcony after one of their sexual encounters. And he isn’t any prize. He has the same character she has. disgusting.

          • Saddle_River_NJ
            September 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

            But I’m sure Tom Murro would stick his dick in a vat of acid if he thought he could benefit from it. Not too far from that with Kim. He better get what he can from her before she is carted off to the glue factory…

            • September 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

              LMAO!

              • September 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM

                LMAO twice *.*

  82. September 5, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    I don’t remember the episode where they had dinner at the accountants!!

    • September 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM

      It was so odd and at the beginning of the Gorgas being on the show, right after the Baptismal Brawl. Easy to forget because the Gorga introduction scenes were boring. And IMHO, viewers were still stunned by the Baptismal Brawl. The dinner with “friends” (Gorga and Wakiles together bashing Teresa), the weird Halloween night clubbing party (where Joey dressed like Snooki and the women were all some variation of sexy kittens). Both scenes seemed so “off” – this supposedly young, sexy,hip couple hanging out with a bunch of older, definitely not sexy or hip, people – it was like going out partying with your parents! And then there is the holiday charity party at the Gorga’s house – odd cast of characters again that all knew each other but acted like they were meeting for the first time, who all wanted to get Teresa to flip her Gorga switch. Instead Melissa, Caroline and Kathy all ended up looking like fools.

      • September 5, 2013 at 9:59 PM

        I still can’t place it!! I was probably still in shock over the brawl, like you said. If any of you see that episode being re-ran, give me a heads up please! Thanks for trying to refresh my memory!

    • September 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

      I remember it because it was so boring and awkward. I was trying to figure out if they were trying this new couple out on us.

      • September 5, 2013 at 10:00 PM

        Still can’t place it. UGH.

  83. Saddle_River_NJ
    September 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Fame you might want to check your email – someone might have sent you some pictures of the fabulous properties owned by the Gorga-Hiza Cabal

    • September 5, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      Thanks Saddle! I’ll check it soon.

  84. September 5, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    TODAY OUR PRECIOUS GRANDAUGHTER IS 31 YRS OLD IN EARTH YRS BUT STILL 24 IN HEAVEN YRS
    OUR DAUGHTER PUT UP THE MOST PRECIOUS PIC OF ONJO ON FACEBOOK,SSSSSSSOOOOOO DARLING.THOSE LIL BLK EYES ARE AMAZING
    HAPPY DRAGONFLY TO ALL FAME-BLY

    • cantik
      September 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM

      Me Celi,

      You know Your granddaughter is well taken care in heaven and she is kind of angel looking down on you :-)))

    • September 5, 2013 at 2:58 PM

      {{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}

    • Jeannie5233
      September 5, 2013 at 3:17 PM

      To Celi and Family –

      “The Promise”
      by Robert Sexton

      Across the years I will walk with you
      In deep green forests; on shores of sand.
      And when our time on Earth is through,
      In Heaven, too, you will have my hand.

      With Love,
      Jeannie

      • September 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM

        how very sweet you all of you Jeannie,cantic, aaaccp
        thank you

    • Debbie J
      September 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM

      Big Hugs to you today Celi!!

      • September 5, 2013 at 3:55 PM

        thank u

    • September 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM

      Hugs to you Miss celi

    • September 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      Ms Celi. Today is also my mother in laws birthday. She is a lung cancer survivor. I mada a donation for her today and I also made one to The Onjelique C. Stevens ’06 Endowed Scholarship Fund. The lady on the phone asked how I knew about this fund. And I had to tell her what a wonderful person you are. Sending prayers your way.

      • Jeannie5233
        September 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

        Dianna – you just took my breath away. The goodness that exudes from people here is just extraordinary and is such a blessing. What a wonderful person YOU are.

        • September 5, 2013 at 5:18 PM

          You made me blush!

      • September 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

        ms diane can you wish your mother in law a happy birthday for us all, you are so sweet to give to the onjo fund ,how kind you all have been
        blessings to all ,I feel so overwhelmed with humble graditude
        love n thank you

      • September 5, 2013 at 10:03 PM

        Dianna, what a wonderful thing to do!

    • September 5, 2013 at 5:21 PM

      My heart and my prayers are with you, dear celi, on this day.

      Hugs and Love being sent.

      • September 5, 2013 at 8:44 PM

        thank you ms mama,dragonflies have been here all week ,wonder if they bite? hope you are having a great trip. bless you

    • September 5, 2013 at 10:06 PM

      Happy Birthday to sweet Onjo! Today is also my nephew’s (on my husband’s side of the family) birthday. Thinking of you Miss Celi!

    • September 6, 2013 at 3:13 AM

      I am sorry but to ride catnip’s tail she is in heaven watching out for you and having a blast!

  85. Detroitrockcity
    September 5, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    I’m sure I read an artical where Teresa’s lawyer says there are two sides to every coin there is much more to this story and it will all come out in court?! Does anyone remeber this?? I wonder what dirty laundry or who’s is going to come out in the wash??; /

    • RahRah
      September 5, 2013 at 4:00 PM

      I live by that and give people the benefit of doubt like I want given in return should I need.

  86. difromnyc
    September 5, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    I just realized her tweet yesterday “Back home with my girls & my honey” might mean there’s no Juicy at the reunion. Juicy MADE the reunion last time.

    • Jeannie5233
      September 5, 2013 at 3:19 PM

      Teresa and Joe both have different attorneys – Teresa’s attended with her at the taping. It would be my guess that if Joe was not there, it was because he was advised against it.

    • NCGal
      September 5, 2013 at 3:43 PM

      One of the HW sites (I forget which one) posted that the husbands were not a big part of the reunion this year.

      • September 5, 2013 at 10:08 PM

        Thank goodness. I can’t take too much more of Joey and Icky.

  87. Monique
    September 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    I knew it!!!! I made a comment saying I believe Melissa and Joe were involved! I hope Melissa gets every bit of karma her way including her midget husband. Who does that to their sister?!

    • September 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

      Someone without a soul.

    • Monique
      September 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM

      Something wasn’t right when Monica showed up to the Gorgas house. They knew Kim G and Monica didn’t like Teresa. Ridiculous!

      Watching the Throwback Thrusday Marathon of HWONJ on Bravo and Joe is definitely bi-sexual he’s too comfortable touching men and it doesn’t matter how thin Lauren gets she will always be an insecure, jealous troll.

      Melissa will ALWAYS crave for attention if its from trying to sale her beat up/auto tone music in gay clubs from seeking attention from walking like a “whore on a stroll” she will always be a bitter, miserable person trying to steal someone’s dreams and goals because she isn’t too bright to come up w/ something original of her own.

      Melissa if you do read these blogs/comments about you…just know God doesn’t like ugly and your malicious/selfish ways will come back at you times ten! Rather if the viewers see it on Teresa’s show (yes I said it!) or if they read it in the tabloids you’re screwed!

      Your “I’m the victim” rhetoric is rusting up like a cheap pawned gold necklace. Your true colors are coming out more and more. So keep up the good work and continue pissing off more people. People won’t just know about your skeletons in your closet but your DEMONS too! You are the epitome of Satan and you are his spawn. Your evil ways were in the dark and are finally coming into the light. “Thank you, Jesus!”.

      • RahRah
        September 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        Melissa the victime–a bad acting job. Melissa doesn’t want to heal any relationship, remember she has one goal and that is to take Teresa down.

        The bad acting comes from playing the victim when she has been setting Teresa up for a jail term and to separate her from her daughters.

        Re: Albert, I bet he was longing for his mistress and I can understand why he needs one.

        Troll Lauren–I can’t think of enough ugly names to call her, I have run out.

        You’re right, Melissa isn’t happy with who she is and with what she’s got, she will not be happy until she destroys Teresa who hasn’t done anything to her. The psychic woman blew my mind and confirmed that my allegiance to Teresa is a good thing.

        Melissa what goes around comes around and the so called friends you are aligned with now are going to turn on you like rabid, vicious dogs–you can not continue doing the things you are doing to hurt people for your own gratification. Believe me you will rue the day and the fact that you invoke a loving God who only asked us to love one another is a punishment that I personally can live with out. Hopefully I am heaven bound where I do not expect to see you.

        • September 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

          Great post, Rahrah! Your so right about the people TSIL aligned herself with are going to turn on her! They used her like she used them except I believe she really thinks she’s one of them! The difference between Kim G./ Monica C. and the Gorga’s is that the Grannypanties and the lawyer have money. Their not broke as a joke pretending to be rich!

          • September 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM

            Maybe KimG introduced TSIL to people and her head swelled up from looking at the ultimate gold digger buffet.

      • Kimmers
        September 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM

        Well said Monique!! And you can bet that the Shore Whore stalks this blog like it’s her job!!

  88. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Upthread there’s a post that lawyer Monica made no breech of confidentiality. Is Mr. Monica a lawyer? If so, should the complaints to the NJ Bar be about HIM obviously feeding his spouse confidential information that she then blabbed all over NJ?

    Shady

    • September 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

      That’s exactly what I want to know.

    • September 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

      I wonder if Monica coming out so boldly bragging about helping the FEDS investigate the Giudice’s will hurt her husband’s reputation as an attorney? If I want to sue someone who forged my name do I really want a lawyer whose wife is associated with a reality TV show that may have mob connections? I think I’d want a more respectable lawyer because who your married to says a lot about you. Look who Monica’s BFF is? Kim G.! Yuck!

  89. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 5, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Also, I do think it’s interesting that Caroline Manzo and Albert “fought the whole time” at the AZ retreat. Maybe he was genuine with the Horse Whisperer and IS sick of her fakeness/only for the cameras warmth/fake tear-giggle BS? The Brownstone surely doesn’t need the kind of attention a fed investigation would bring, but in Caroline’s defense (choke) she did reject a friendship with Grannypants – despite the closeness of their sons. That snub felt and looked “real.”

  90. Jeannie5233
    September 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    ‘Real Housewives’ Ridgewood assault case put off until later this month
    Thursday September 5, 2013, 12:12 PM

    BY CHRIS HARRIS
    STAFF WRITER
    The Record

    RIDGEWOOD — Three cast members from “The Real Housewives of New Jersey” will not appear before a criminal judge this evening, as previously reported.

    The assault and terroristic threat complaints against “Housewives” star Jacqueline Laurita of Franklin Lakes; her husband, Christopher; and Joe Gorga of Montville have been adjourned.

    The cases will now proceed in Ridgewood’s Municipal Court on Sept. 26.

    The charges stem from a fracas at the grand opening of a salon in Ridgewood.

    The charges had been referred in April to the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office for grand jury consideration, which returned the matter to Ridgewood for resolution last month.

    The case of John Karagiorgis of Paramus, who is charged with assault and making terroristic threats as well as three counts of harassment, was also adjourned until later this month.

    Karagiorgis claimed he was assaulted by the “Housewives” trio when cameras were rolling for the Bravo television series.

    He said he sustained several injuries, including a head abrasion, when Jacqueline Laurita allegedly clubbed him with a stiletto heel.”

    Source: http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/Real_Housewives_Ridgewood_assault_case_put_off_until_later_this_month.html

    • Saddle_River_NJ
      September 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      Aaaakkk! You would think I would take a moment to check the local paper before driving over there!! I got a little suspicious that something (or nothing that is) was up when I got to Village Hall. I’m only 10 minutes away so it’s not a big deal. But I *did* have my little Mino video camera to try and sneak a clip. Till the 26th then….

      • September 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        You are the gal Saddle!!! Appreciate the effort.

        • September 5, 2013 at 5:18 PM

          Ditto, Saddle River! Your efforts are greatly appreciated!

      • Kimmers
        September 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM

        thanks for trying Saddle.

      • September 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM

        You are the greatest.

      • September 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

        I just love you Saddle! Clear your calendar for the 26th! Glad you didn’t waste too much time today.

  91. September 5, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    I can t wait for Teresa to slap Fredo and say I loved you……

  92. September 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    It literally makes me sick to my stomach to read Kim G.’s tweets, “broom”? WTF. Lock this crazy bitch up. I can’t even imagine what her children think when they read this. She really is loony tunes, not to mention crazy for fame. She can’t stand that she is not famous.

    • September 5, 2013 at 10:14 PM

      I don’t think I follow her but have checked out her Tweets a few times and was appalled. How embarrassing!

  93. September 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    In the photos up-thread, could SOMEONE please explain Gregg Bennett(?) to me? He first appeared on the scene sitting beside Teresa, then all of a sudden he’s up Horsey-face’s ass, living with the “children of privilege” and Lapband’s only friend. Now that shit is getting “real”, he’s gone. I wonder if he comes from a “banking family”?
    Thanks everyone for all the research and knowledge to links and other posts. It sure has filled up my days.
    p.s. Saddle, I think I would have loved Dot*.*

    • September 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM

      Me. too. I love genuine and interesting off-beat people.

      • Saddle_River_NJ
        September 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

        She was amazing. Lived in a junk and love filled old house. She had a flood once we were trying to clean up and rolling up the soaked carpets to throw out. The “padding” was $10 and $20 bills. Entire rooms had tens of thousand of dollars underneath the carpets. Then there was this old pink fridge that had to get tossed. There was no food in it, just more cash, stocks and bonds. She owned huge amounts of property in Paramus, Maywood and Hackensack. My cousin and his wife had to go down to Florida to tie up loose ends with her properties down there. They found countless numbers of shoe boxes filled with cash in one of the buildings and a pet iguana living in one of the yards. Not thinking it though all that well they bought two large suitcases and packed them with the cash. The wife sort of wedged the lizard in an oversized carryon. Mind you this was back in the early 90’s when (thank God!) the screening was pretty lax. Amazingly enought they (iguana included) made in back without any issues. I can deal with relatives like that. If I had ones like The Sassy Slut, I’d change my name, phone number and move to Paris…

        • September 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM

          Well at least good ol’ Dot had enough sense to use shoeboxes instead of cereal boxes. I bet she had some awesome hat boxes too. *.* Who knows maybe the Iguana’s that hang around my area are long lost cousins……bawhahwhaha

    • tulip
      September 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

      shoebuyer,

      I have read that Gregg Bennett was friends and a workout partner of one of the producers from the season when Kat Rodriguez was on. The Manzo boys tried to come up with the story that Gregg was a college friend of one of them. But I believe that was a Bravo storyline to explain Gregg.

      I have a theory that Gregg was a plant from the producer to get info from Teresa as well. Because it was reported that Gregg was always with Teresa and was on very friendly terms with her. Then, all of a sudden, he is hanging with the Gorgas and all the rest and hated Teresa. Just another mole, in my opinion, to try and get info from Teresa for the Feds.

      • September 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM

        thanks tulip, he sure has a lot of “connections” to the industry. But as I have always been told, “It’s not who you know, it’s who you b$$w” *.*

      • Monique
        September 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

        That makes sense!!! Noticed at his going away party Richie’s instigating ass had asked Gregg why didn’t he invite Teresa?! I thought that was kind of weird that he invited everyone but her. His response was “I didn’t think she would care to come!”. Yeah right!

    • September 5, 2013 at 9:51 PM

      http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gregory-bennett/60/169/a90

      “Fenuxe: Ok, understandable, now tell us what you think of the infamous Kim G?

      Greg: Ugh, I don’t even know her, to be honest with you. She was at the holiday party and that fashion show. I’m friends with her son, Johnny, Chris’ best friend; love him he’s a great guy. I don’t know what her deal is or what planet she lives on or what she’s trying to do. She’s whatever; I don’t think she’s going to be around anymore. The only times I have ever seen her in public, she’s trying to cause trouble. Some people just think that negative attention is a good idea. I just don’t understand how she thinks starting drama with these established women with fan bases is a good idea. But to each his own.”

      http://www.fenuxe.com/2011/09/02/exclusive-fenuxe-interview-with-greg-bennett-the-witty-gay-roommate-from-the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/

      • September 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

        Hummm, how would Greggy know “I don’t think she’s going to be around anymore”?

    • September 5, 2013 at 10:17 PM

      I too need Greg explained…

  94. LifeIsGood
    September 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Has anyone heard details from the reunion? Heather and Teresa have hinted that it was good, but I was wondering if any details have leaked yet?

    • September 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM

      I hear Caroline showed up with a black eye, Milania did it ;-)

      • September 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM

        Good one

      • LifeIsGood
        September 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM

        LOL, I wish Milania could have replaced Andy as the Host.

  95. September 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    This whole thing makes me sick, and so very sad. Melissa really is evil isn’t she?

    • Kimmers
      September 5, 2013 at 6:57 PM

      Yes aaacccp she is truly evil. Sad but true.

    • Monique
      September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      The spawn of Satan.

  96. NCGal
    September 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    @BravoAndy has changed his twitter handle to @Andy

    https://twitter.com/BravoAndy

    • September 5, 2013 at 7:53 PM

      Yes I bombarded him last night after reading Fame for the hundredth time and I wasn’t the only one!

  97. September 5, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    i USUALLY read all the comments before I post , so I am not redundant. But OMG 415 !! I just got home. All I have to say is :
    I KNEW IT
    I KNEW IT
    I KNEW IT
    I KNEW IT
    I KNEW IT
    I KNEW IT!!

  98. September 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    If Rich wasn’t there, somebody grew a brain.

  99. September 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    I don’t have time to read all the new posts! I want to read everything but I can’t go through all 450 comments to many dang! Love it!!!!

  100. Honnie Badger
    September 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    OK — Game time! Who has a bigger five-head, Hiza chickie or Mego?

    • September 6, 2013 at 12:13 PM

      Lookers for the win-I could park my car on the ‘five-head’ ! :-)

  101. September 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    Speaking of slumlords. Remember this interview asking Teresa about Juicy being a slumlord?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2010/08/02/joy-behar-asks-teresa-giudice-about-slumlords.html

  102. September 5, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    I don’t comment nearly as often as I should but I am so heartbroken for Teresa. There is no way she doesn’t read this blog and I am sure she probably had some idea as to who sold them down the river (aside from the show and the cast) but you never think your own sibling, your flesh and blood would turn on you in such a way. Every time I come to this site I shudder, I think “how can it get any worse for her at this point?”. The sad part is, I think we have yet to hit bottom. Things always work themselves out always in the end and I’m sure Teresa will come out on top, and with a fan base like the one she has (that I am proud to be a part of) will be behind her and help her make a come back.

    Now, before I say this I am a Christian (not to offend anyone here who isn’t) and after surviving cancer this year it has really opened my eyes to how people are. Those who have tried to make a name for themselves through unjust and dishonorable means, they shall rue the day when the Lord renders his justice upon them. We all must pay a price for crime and sin and doing evil. Jac, Caroline, Melissa, Kathy, Richie, Joe, Chris, Albert and everyone who has tried to profit from their misfortune will have their day of judgement. It’s frustrating watching things unravel and seeing these people continue to kick her when she’s down. But, it is not for us to pass justice down. There is no punishment like what God can rein down on someone.

    Romans 12:19
    English Standard Version (ESV)
    19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it[a] to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

    • September 5, 2013 at 11:27 PM

      Great post. You know, Tre’s friends and family appear to like kicking her when she’s down. Yet, she forgives and seems to forget. I always thought Romans 12:17 spoke volumes about Tre’s character: “Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably.”

    • RabbleRouser
      September 6, 2013 at 2:19 AM

      Do you not think that maybe the Guidice’s have also ‘profited’ over the misfortune of others? No doubt they owe a LOT of of people money…many labors lent their services to built their home, don;’t you feel they should be paid before Teresa spends money on shoes or I-phones for her girls.

      I mean, if you are going to quote the bible shouldn’t you also bare in mind the the Guidice’s didn’t get into the predicament they are in with clean hands?

      Don’t get me wrong, God bless you for surviving cancer. Many people have not been as fortunate and I can appreciate you taking comfort in his word. But what I don’t understand is your condemnation of others while thinking the Guidice’s are above any sort of reproach.

      • DD
        September 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM

        Rabblerouser No one has been proven guilty in a court of law of anything as of yet. Mismanaging money is not a deadly sin. What pisses everyone off is this-What the Guidices may or may not have done has been done by everyone on this program however only the Guidice’s were put out there on national television and exposed without edit. We don’t think that the Guidice’s are above condemnation. I believe that “Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably.” means that the Guidice’s and only the Guidice’s have gone through this debacle with honor and not throwing shade at the other cast members. Whilst knowing all of their cast members dirty secrets. Some have done much, much worse and the show continues to only be focused on the Guidice’s. Katfish and her husband who owe how much due to not paying their bills for their buisness, they also owe their landscapers. Also how about Slojo not paying his contractors, or his electric bills, or his taxes Jac and Chris now that one is huge they even stole from Susan Kowman foundation. The Brownstone which has had their fare share of lawsuits over not paying their employees for overtime. . I mean this could go on and on and on with these cast members. The only one who is being put out their are the Guidice’s.
        There is a saying “don’t judge my sins if they are different then yours” What about if they are the same as yours? Can we say hypocrite.

      • Spaghetti Kitten
        September 6, 2013 at 7:17 AM

        Out of 477 comments, you couldn’t pick any other post to Rouse your Rabble over?

        Geesh

      • NCGal
        September 6, 2013 at 7:44 AM

        Rabblerouser:

        What the Guidices did or didn’t do is on them. If Joe Guidice did not file tax returns, if documents were forged – it’s on them, and the courts will find them guilty or innocent. My personal jury is still out. Simply put, I don’t know what happened.

        My issue lies in how the Gorgas and Wakiles signed on to RHONJ with the specific intention of bringing Teresa down, and how Bravo has allowed it to fester out of any type of rational proportion.

        I used to love this show. Currently, I rarely watch because the Gorgas and Wakiles have ruined it.

        I am sick of Richie and the way he talks about and treats women. Clearly he has no respect for women, and how his wife puts up with that is beyond me. I wonder how she would react if her daughter married someone like him – who continually disrespects women, even those in her own family. How would she feel if her son treated women the way his father does? Richie is disgusting. He is a pig, and probably the biggest reason why I am so over this show. I hate what comes out of his mouth and the fact that his wife just sits there.

        If I want to see a pig, I’ll visit a farm.

        I am sick of the Gorgas for all of the obvious reasons. I don’t have three hours to list them all. They are trash, pure and simple.

        If I want to see trash, I can walk to my trash can.

        I am sick of every negative comment or incident being blamed on Teresa.

        I am sick on unfair and clearly biased editing. I don’t like to see people treated unfairly, and that’s what we’ve seen for two seasons. And I was never much of a Teresa fan until the pile up started last season.

        I think what Bravo (and the cast) didn’t take into account is that viewers usually side with the underdog, viewers are not stupid and most viewers have enough angst and drama in their own lives – they don’t need to see it on tv.

      • September 6, 2013 at 8:03 AM

        Rabblerouser, like what DD said, no one has been proven guilty in a court of law yet. All last season Tre was down and the cast members seemed to kick her. She didn’t try to seek revenge but took the high road. That speaks volumes about her character. Hence, Romans 12:17: “Repay no evil with evil…..”. It was nice seeing a commenter quote the bible, close to the same scripture I tell myself whenever I feel wronged by somebody. My first instinct is to seek revenge but instead I give my hurt to God to deal with.

        • September 6, 2013 at 9:35 AM

          Amen…personally, I think that we all can find a “scripture” to fit our thoughts and feelings, but the bottom line is just give it to God and live by the Ten Commandments. *.*

      • Monique
        September 6, 2013 at 11:57 AM

        Wow!!! You’re missing the huge point. If you don’t understand her condemnation maybe you should re-read it again because it made a lot of sense. Maybe you should be asking yourself the very same question.

      • September 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM

        She said – “WE ALL must pay a price for crime and sin and doing evil” You said “But what I don’t understand is your condemnation of others while thinking the Guidice’s are above any sort of reproach”

        Hypocracy is a nasty thing. Everyone has bills, everyone wants their money now. People are in debt up to their necks and then some. The rich and the poor are in the same boat, they have things they need and things they don’t want to wait for or do without. They rely on what keeps the money flowing and when that source stops or is slowed down, people throw mercy out the window.

      • September 6, 2013 at 8:15 PM

        Thanks for the niceties RabbleRouser but where did I condemn anyone? Those who seek vengeance through their own means whether its Tre or Jac or ANYONE will have to answer for their transgressions. That is a FACT! Just because I like Tre doesn’t mean I don’t hold her to the same standard or think she is beyond reproach. She is just the only one who owns her mistakes. She OBVIOUSLY lives by a different standard than the rest of the cast(if you frequent this site often than you would see that). I think there are WAY worse comments on here and you would rather choose to jump down my throat about using the bible, a book many are familiar with and whose wisdom and rules we should all try to heed and incorporate in our lives to help us find wisdom and peace in really an utterly depressing situation? It feels like you were looking to pick a fight….

        And as the other wonderful ladies have said, she hasn’t been proven guilty, the only person condemning anyone here is you. “I mean, if you are going to quote the bible shouldn’t you also bare in mind the the Guidice’s didn’t get into the predicament they are in with clean hands?”

        I made an observation and quoted what the bible says for us to do when faced with an opportunity to seek out vengeance. You have passed judgement not only on Tre and her family but on me as well.

        John 8:7 ESV
        “And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

        You don’t know me so don’t be so quick to assume that because of my faith I am judgmental of others, that is not the case. I am observant and understanding, as are many people here. All that aside I wish you well and I hope you have a great weekend and that goes for everyone who has commented on this!

        -Shar

  103. Dani
    September 6, 2013 at 3:19 AM

    I want to know when any of this mess is going to catch up with Melissa and Joe. It is super creepy that your own family would stoop so low to try and destroy lives which include four young girls. Sad beyond belief.

    All of the court stuff needs to be sorted out in court. If Joe/Teresa did wrong, then justice will prevail and I am going to leave it at that.

    What drives me nuts is the inequity on the show. I am so over everything being Teresa’s fault. They kind of started showing Melissa in a more negative light this year but I can feel the pendulum swinging back towards Teresa. I can’t take it anymore. It is not fun to watch. Why doesn’t Bravo Andy get that very basic point??

    I have never understood people in this world who have to tear other people down to build themselves up.

    • LifeIsGood
      September 6, 2013 at 6:20 AM

      Dani,

      Andy really doesn’t care if we enjoy watching – as long as we’re watching.

  104. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 6, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    So is the appropriate lawyer to report to the NJ Bar Complaint division is Monica Chacon’s HUSBAND, right?

  105. Spaghetti Kitten
    September 6, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    Is this the guy that feeds his wife Monica confidential info to blab all over NJ with??>>>

    William Saracino Jr.

    http://start.cortera.com/company/research/k5o8syl2j/william-saracino-attorney/

    Is this for complaints?>>>>

    http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/oae/

  106. Riverside Chick
    September 7, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Monica’s husband is the attny for Gudices business partner that he owes money to. The Gudices said they were broke and couldn’t pay the judgement. Monica was like “No Way” when she saw the financial statements and obviously alot of income was missing. Cut and dry case. Easy to prove

  107. September 7, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Just curious, is there an election in New Jersey in 2014? (local government)

    • vallygirl
      September 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      I don’t know Shoebyer about any election but something has to be up. Think about it all summer from what I read the prosecuter couldn’t wait to get this trial started.
      Now it’s postponed until February maybe the prosecuter has realized the Guidice’s stuff isn’t as big as some of the others legal dramas that are on this show.
      Very confusing first they can’t wait to go to trial and now it’s been pushed back a few months.

  108. September 8, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    How Social Media May Implicate Yacht Crew

    http://www.yachtpayroll.com/2013/how-social-media-may-implicate-yacht-crew.html

    Aug 12, 2013 – How Social Media May Implicate Yacht Crew … by Tom Andrews, CPA … This brings me to Social Media, if you are providing a travel schedule …

  109. September 8, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    I’m trying to copy and paste the above article, not sure I did it right, but the just of the article is, we are all being watched……if someone turns us in

    • Jeannie5233
      September 8, 2013 at 9:14 AM

      My daughter used to work at a law firm in the HR Department. One of the first things she did when interviewing a recruit was check out their social media pages, i.e. Facebook, LinkedIn, MySpace, Twitter. It was routine. Many candidates did not get past that first screening.

      • September 8, 2013 at 9:28 AM

        Boy, I never thought I would see an upside to menopause and retirement. *.* I would bet that even a fast food joint would search these sites, so how in the world do most of these “housewives” even make it past “Hello, my name is..”?

  110. Johnny
    September 8, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Have any of you ever considered that it’s all fake. The lawsuits…the media buzz… etc. NBCUniversal owns Bravo and many other media outlets. They have people working for different gossip websites and magazines to keep the buzz and shit going on their different shows on the network, including this website we’re on right now most likely.

    They can say and do whatever they want. Need a lawsuit to create buzz about everyone’s favorite real housewife Teresa? CHECK! Need a doctored marriage certificate to create buzz and to help increase views for RHOM? Check! I believe the cast knows it’s all fake but they play along. Outside of the show they all hang out and laugh together with all the money they make for being puppets of Bravo while NBCUniversal spins and twists things to keep their viewers interested. All of these real housewives twitter accounts are inflated with fake followers. NBCUNiversal buys them all hundreds of thousands of followers to make them them seem popular. Go check out BravoRatings.com to see what these Real Housewives show pull in, in terms of viewership each week. Reality TV is fake as shit.

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