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Richie Wakile and the Gorgas Talk Smack About the Giudices on the Bus Ride to the Lake George Retreat

July 12, 2013

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“We got a glimpse of how you chirp in Joey’s ear (next episode, bus ride). I’m sure off camera, it is even worse. You say you want to work it out, but you keep feeding your hubby BS like that, and that is why this is going no where. You are getting sloppy with your sneakiness! And I, for one, am glad the REAL you is finally being aired!” – kristyk, July 12, 2013, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

In the First Look (which aired on July 11, 2013) of season 5 episode 7, Rosie, the Wakiles and the Gorgas on the bus to Lake George talk smack about the Giudices, and Melissa’s mic picks up on her low whispering to Joe about the Giudice’s marriage (or as Teresa puts it, “Melissa is chirping in my brother’s ear” and “mindf*cking” him). She is a major hypocrite – pointing fingers at others when they talk about her marriage, and acting high and mighty as if she doesn’t do the same to Joe and Teresa.

In Melissa’s book (not the “marriage bible/sex book”), it’s perfectly fine for her to make cheating accusations about Joe Giudice but it’s not OK for Teresa to sit there while Melissa’s friend accuses her of cheating, the same friend that Melissa sat with two weeks earlier and laughed along with when they ridiculed and mocked Teresa. Melissa complains about what other people do when she does the exact same thing.

The following is a transcript of their discussion on the bus.

Richie: Listen, the Manzos and Lauritas, by them not coming to this trip, gave her such a big fuckin’ pass. Because they know. They used to hear it right from her mouth about my wife and about your wife. They can call her out on stuff.

Melissa: It would have been nice to have an extra mouthpiece.

Joey: I don’t think you’re going to change somebody that’s in competition, trying to be somebody they’re not. You’re not gonna change them! Joe to me, is, he’s a fake.

Melissa whispers to Joe, and the mic catches it (voice over – captions are on the screen): He doesn’t love her. He’s a cheater. He’s an asshole. So he doesn’t give a fuck what she does.

Melissa’s TH: Teresa wants me to go through what she goes through in her life. And I feel like she’s so mad that Joe embraces me and he comes home every night, and maybe it’s different over there. But that’s not fair to me.

Rosie to the Gorgas: Don’t go too much on their marriage.

Richie: They don’t have a god damn marriage.

lambyjj said on July 12, 2013 on Melissa’s Bravo blog:

I can’t wait to hear Melissa’s excuse for calling Joe Giudice a cheater…

(a) “I was driven to it emotionally. It’s Teresa’s fault.”

(b) “It was edited to make it look like I said that but I didn’t. It’s the editors fault.”

(c) “I forgot I was mic’d. It’s the sound recorders fault.”

(d) “I didn’t start the conversation, only added to it. It was everyone else’s fault.”

Jeannie5233 said on 2013/07/12 at 9:43 AM at Fame-Whorgas:

Last night on the First Look – there was a segment with Josephine, Melissa and the kids – Melissa is encouraging them to dance and there is a shot of little Joey dancing and grabbing his crotch. Melissa says “Oh, you’re doing Michael Jackson!”. That is what she told someone on Twitter when they called her out on that disgusting video of little Joey.

Two things –

First, maybe it is the “Michael Jackson” move but who teaches a kid that move at three years old??? I remember when MJ first did it, it caused alot of outrage and people were offended – and he was a grown man (well, sort of!). Grabbing your crotch and thrusting your hips is a blatant sexual move – let’s remember also that MJ’s fanbase demographic was composed of pre-teens, teenagers, and young adults. If you’re teaching your THREE year old how to dance, is that one of the first steps you would show him how to do? What ever happened to tap, ball, chain, and switch?? The Gorgas probably don’t even know what that is?!

Second, I think this particular scene was filmed to do damage control after the fallout from that video. The move little Joey made in that video and in this clip are similar but not exactly the same. In the video, he is clearly moving his arm up and down. By the airing of this clip, this brings up the video once more to those on social media who are already aware of it, raises the whole issue up again for debate, and opens the Gorgas up to new criticism.

If the Gorgas asked to have this scene filmed – and I think they did, thinking it would make people “understand” – they are dumber than bricks. It would have been far better to let this issue die a slow death. Idiots.

Jeannie5233 said on 2013/07/12 at 11:50 AM at Fame-Whorgas:

In a TH from last night’s First Look, this is what Josephine said about why he wants to go to the Retreat – it’s definitely fighting words and certainly not for reconciliation:

“I wanna go and confront Teresa. She has this army behind her that’s spreading these allegations about my wife. I’m fu*king pissed! What is she doing?!?!?!”

When Teresa screams at Josephine that he is listening to strangers – not his blood, I believe that she was referring to the blogs, tabloids, and social media.

Then Fame got the email saying that Melissa thinks FW is orchestrated by Teresa.

I believe both of these references from the show confirms what Fame’s source said. The Gorgas just cannot fathom and wrap it around their pea-sized brains that other people – MASSES of people, not just Teresa – see them for who they really are and are calling them out on it!

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The following are transcripts of other previews for episode 7.

The Housewives pack their bags and head up to a frozen Lake George to thaw out their issues. Teresa prepares to confront Jacqueline, Melissa chips away at Teresa’s lies, while Kathy plays referee on the sidelines. Years of hostility fracture the group when relationship building exercises turn in to a throwdown between the Joes — threatening to crumble this fragile group forever.

“The Loyalty is Broken” – The feud between Teresa and her brother Joe gets physical.

Shots of Lake George, the exterior and interior of the castle the cast is staying at for their retreat flash across the screen as the following voice-overs are heard.

Teresa: The loyalty between us is broken.

Kathy: We’re not here to prove you wrong; we’re here to hope you stop.

Joey: You’re not ready to move forward.

Joe: This fu*king kid’s got a problem. He’s gonna get me mad one day. You don’t wanna get me mad.

Teresa: Blood is thicker than water.

Kathy: I can’t help but realize it’s awkward. . .like really awkward.

Scene cuts to what appears to be a conference room and Melissa is on her knees, screaming: Stop hurting us!!

Teresa, screaming and standing over Melissa: I want you (inaudible). . .

Melissa: Stop hurting us!!

Kathy looks on.

Teresa to Joey: Get balls! Be a man! Stick with your blood!

Melissa is standing in the background, also watching.

Joey, sneering: I’m not sticking with scum like you!!

Click here for the rest of the transcript.

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“Calm on the Outside, Anxious on the Inside” – Teresa gets ready to go on this retreat to finally resolve the tension between her and Joe Gorga.

At Teresa’s house.

Teresa: Joe! Bring your suitcase up here! C’mon, babe, we gotta go!

Teresa’s girls are wrestling on the couch.

Teresa: Alright! Stop it!

Gia, looking on: What is your problem?

Milania dances wildly around, enjoying herself.

Teresa: Did you have breakfast already?

Milania: I ate a hundred Twizzlers!

Gia watches her sisters with a typical pre-teen look.

Teresa: Are you gonna miss Mommy?

Milania: Where are you going?

Teresa: To Lake George on a retreat. It’s only adults though.

Milania: I can fit in your luggage.

Milania lays in Teresa’s suitcase.

Teresa, laughing: You can’t fit in there!

Joe walks into the bedroom.

Teresa: Hi, honey!

Joe: What’s up?

Audriana: You can be the monster!

Joe: No, I don’t want to be the monster. I’m tired!

Audriana: Oooh!

Teresa: Alright – be the monster for them.

Audriana: Try to get me!

Joe growls and runs after her. She giggles and laughs as Joe, still growling, picks her up and gives her “raspberries”.

Joe: That’s it! You’re dead!

Joe runs after Milania, grabs her and gives her a bear hug.

Audriana: Nah! Nah! Na! Nah! Nah!

Joe, laughing: You guys are tiring me out before I go to this damn thing!

Gia is still watching from the couch.

Joe: What are we doing anyway?

Teresa: I have relationship experts coming up there. They’re going to try and help us communicate.

Joe: Didn’t youse try that sh*t before?

Teresa: Well, we did therapy. . .Once!!

Flashback to the therapy session Teresa and Joey attended last Season.

Therapist: Be careful about your expectations.

Joey looks condescending and skeptical.

Therapist: Walking away is your best friend.

Back to Teresa’s bedroom.

Teresa: Now we are going to try this.

Joe: Alright.

Teresa TH: I may seem really calm on the outside but I’m really anxious on the inside. I feel like my brother and I are riding a roller coaster and I just want this crazy fu*king ride to end. Hopefully, we will become stronger that ever.

Joe: Well, alright.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/508211

Hat Tip: Thanks as always, Jeannie5233, for the transcripts!

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  1. Little Bear
    July 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM | #1

    Melissa’s response to this joey hitting first will be: poor joey had enough. he was crying every night and it built up. he gave her a taste of her own medicine.

    mark my words, people..you heard it here first lol

    you know.. as a side note..I have to say.. the rosie and joe giudice bravo tv web exclusives are so fun to watch. these are the only clips that actually show the true juicy. and seeing him interact with rosie actually makes me like her. hes just so real .. and a real man. I never thought ID SAY THIS…. but juicy is kind of sexy to me now seeing how much he loves Teresa and although no filter with cameras on (cameras on, calling her a terrible name).. the way he stands up for her is so real and not fake for camera. and the way he interacts with rosie not just talking about making out with girls or being gay.. but just as a normal person. the wine making videos and the working out video with them is just so genuine. I will say it now.

    juicy is a hot husband.

    • Little Bear
      July 12, 2013 at 12:19 PM | #2

      also hate how everyone.. both mutual friends of Melissa, Teresa herself (suppose dot be in a good place now?), and other people on the crew have said they all told Melissa at the time that she wa stold Teresa got up as soon as she learned that the milania hair care buys (great reason to meet for introducing her line on the show) for the salon owners were out to get Melissa.. as soon as they started talking shit but they edited to make it look like she sat there the whole time. why is Melissa talkin gto magazine as if Teresa never got up. its like she is ignoring the facts in order to give magazines a good story. which btw, why aren’t people calling her out for selling stories to magazines?

      in my opinion, this season is true Melissa.

      i want them to be happy together but Melissa will always want to play victim and i really understand that now

      • Little Bear
        July 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM | #3

        also as a side note.. i now believe that joe g was jealous of juicy when Teresa got married.. not the opposite as he tried to say about T. Teresa got married first, got busy with kids, her family and in laws, and said she was happy joey finally settled down. after seeing joeys ego, it makes sense now..

        ps. did Melissa and joey gorga go to the same doctor to get their lips blown up?

        • windycitywondering2
          July 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM | #4

          ITA – lil Joe was “left behind” when his sister got married and he then resented both JoeGu and his sister because if he isn’t the center of attention he is not happy. Teresa may have tried to keep him in their lives (put him on a pedestal) but it just wasn’t enough for the baby famewhore.

        • JUST ME P
          July 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM | #5

          THE SCENE WHERE JOEY BOY SAYS…..WHEN I GET MAD AT MY SISTER I HAVE SEX WITH MY WIFE……WELL IT IS VERY TELLING TO ME THAT HE PUTS TERESA IN THE MIX OF HAVING SEX WITH HIS WIFE…..I MEAN REALLY…..I CAN NOT HONESTLY SAY WHEN I AM (WITH) MY HUSBAND THE THOUGHT OF MY BROTHER EVER CAME INTO MY MIND……GEE AM I THE CRAZY ONE?? HAY HAS ANYONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THEIR BROTHER AND THE HAD SEX WITH THEIR HUSBAND????? LOL
          I KID I KNOW NO ONE ELSE HAS EITHER

          • July 13, 2013 at 10:28 PM | #6

            There are some really poor boundaries between the sisters on this show (Teresa & Lauren) and their brothers. They’re way too possessive of the brothers and the brothers are downright abusive to them. What is that? I’ve never seen such entangled siblings, and there’s a creepy sexual component to it that’s just too much.

          • Anonymous
            July 20, 2013 at 10:30 AM | #7

            that statement only solidifies the fact that joey needs to be in some sort of therapy

      • July 12, 2013 at 7:16 PM | #8

        Yes, this is the Missy we saw at the PFS, to deny she’s whispering in Joe’s ear about his sister is like saying the grass is blue! It gives more weight to Teresa’s take on the relationships.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM | #9

          As in “Melissa is chirping in my brother’s ear” and that Melissa is mindfu*king with Josephine – now we know for sure – for ourselves – that is true. I can’t wait to hear how Melissa tries to spin this one in her blog and I hope that there are so many people calling her out on telling Josephine that Teresa is the one screwing around with his head her own head spins 360 degrees! What a bitch!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM | #10

      I replied to this on the last post so in case you didn’t see it:

      I agree Little Bear – these snippets of Joe and Rosie just enjoying each other’s company are refreshing and so much better fare to watch than the garbage on the actual show. Bravo should be using these clips in the show instead of just on their website but they won’t because they don’t bring the “drama”. But they definitely do give a better insight as to who both Joe and Rosie, for that matter, really are.

      • Little Bear
        July 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM | #11

        i agree

    • July 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM | #12

      Rosie and Juicy are a hoot together. She is much more likeable around him – keep her away from Richie and keep Richie forever away from all cameras!

      Joe and Rosie Explain Wine

      Joe Giudice and Rosie Workout

      • Little Bear
        July 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM | #13

        omg these videos need their own blog after one of the episode recaps… THIS IS JOE GIUDICE.

        • corky21
          July 12, 2013 at 1:35 PM | #14

          I missed these, glad they are here. I loved that. There should be more of Joe and Rosie!

        • Silvana
          July 12, 2013 at 8:27 PM | #15

          I can’t view these clips from here!!!!! Pissed off!!!!

          • haddasah4
            July 13, 2013 at 12:35 AM | #16

            My proposal for S6:

            1) Get rid of MeHo (PLEASE get Meho off TV!!)
            2) Replace Kathy with Rosie as a fulltime housewife (Hey, why not?!)
            3) Bring DINA back (Wouldn’t that be interesting for Caroline :)
            4) Make JoGo a fulltime housewife, after he completes his gender reassignment surgery

            • Marty
              July 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM | #17

              LOve it!!!

            • Anon
              July 13, 2013 at 9:41 PM | #18

              Okay seriously! Let Carowhine deal with what Tre has put up with for 3 seasons! Bet she couldn’t handle it with nearly the class that Tre has!

            • July 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM | #19

              Ii’ll go along with that as long as Jaq goes, too. She has things at home that should take precedence over being on a reality show and touring the country.

      • July 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM | #20

        I just went to Bravo’s site to check these out. Thanks for posting them here.

      • July 12, 2013 at 3:13 PM | #21

        I can’t see the videos in the UK :(

        • Entree-Manure
          July 12, 2013 at 3:23 PM | #22

          I think Teresa just called Juicy a “wine con-de-sewer”…

        • tboz17586
          July 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM | #23

          Yorkshirestar I’m up in Scotland and I downloaded an extension called Mediahint and it means I can watch anything from any domain! It’s great as I was missing out on all this extra stuff too! It’s easy to do!

          • Silvana
            July 12, 2013 at 8:31 PM | #24

            Wow will media hint work here in Australia do you know?

            • tboz17586
              July 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM | #25

              It should do Silvana! Give it a try!

        • smith
          July 13, 2013 at 4:40 AM | #26

          on youtube the clips are put up on chris bakers channel and full episode links on tribal guy council’s channel.
          I’m in the UK too.

          • tboz17586
            July 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM | #27

            I’ll have a look at his channel Smith, thanks for the heads up!

      • July 12, 2013 at 3:42 PM | #28

        WOW, these videos show that Rosie has a good relationship with Juicy and feels comfortable in the Guidice’s home. What is still bothering me is that Rosie got lost going to the Gorga’s house for that Let’s Bash Teresa Some More Brunch! I thought the Gorga’s live 5 minutes from the Guidices?

        • July 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM | #29

          I thought that was strange as well but then I thought it was refering to Melissa’s house being so huge that Rosie got lost in it. Jac made a comment about their house being so large it takes them 30 minutes to answer the door. Maybe they just didn’t want to leave her in lol

      • July 12, 2013 at 7:16 PM | #31

        Can’t watch it – different region.

      • July 12, 2013 at 8:50 PM | #32

        Not a big Rosie fan …. but LOVE, LOVE, LOve these clips. This is what I want to see not the fighting.

        • July 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM | #33

          I would love to see Teresa have her own show. Their family could be making wine, sausage, sauce, cooking, etc. Rosie could be included in some episodes. My opinion of her cautiously changed after the last episode, this First Look and those videos of her and Joe Guidice. There may be hope for Kathy too. She is starting to remind me of a friend of mine, who had a very controlling husband. Time will tell for Kathy.

          Hint to Kathy, if you read the comments on this blog, on the left page of your dessert cookbook include the traditional Italian recipe for your dessert, on the right side, a healthy, heart friendly, lower calorie version, perhaps using coconut oil, Splenda, whole wheat flour, etc. I would purchase a copy.

          • July 12, 2013 at 10:28 PM | #34

            I’m there with you Moma. I would love a Teresa show. I tried really hard to like Kathy at first, then realized she was on the Teresa hate train. That and her husband is a pig.

            I liked Rosie until the Reunion. I have family members like Rosie … we let those blow and then ask what do you ant for dessert. I do love the clips with her and Juicy I want more!!!

            Unless I hear Kathy sticking up for Teresa all season and shutting her asshole of husband down, I won’t be buying her cookbook. I also agree — copy Teresa and give the substitutes for healthier recipes.

          • Cee_See
            July 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM | #35

            That would be a great idea for Kathy if she wants her cookbook to be as successful as her cousin’s. My mother is diabetic and to be able to make her a dessert that won’t send her blood sugar through the roof would be great. A dessert that taste’s good, too. Right now, if she is craving something sweet, she makes herself a buckwheat pancake and sugar free syrup! It’s not that great tasting but she loves them.

            • July 13, 2013 at 9:21 PM | #36

              Cee See, have you ever looked up any low carb dessert recipes? I’m not diabetic, but I am assuming they would be good for diabetics??? I haven’t had any in forever because I got off of my diet and have to start over and am trying to stay away from sweets, but there’s some really good stuff out there.

      • July 12, 2013 at 9:25 PM | #37

        These two need their own show. See that’s entertainment when two people [characters] bring out the best in each other. Enough of the dark side.

    • Confused
      July 12, 2013 at 2:16 PM | #38

      Hey, don’t giver her any ideas! lol……………I’m sure that she’s been thinking about it for a long time, which only means that she is now believing her lies in her alternate universe.

      I agree with you about juicy. I think that he played the game and now he’s had enough. I think that he has showed great restraint. I know that my husband would have pummeled weenie-biter joey well before.

    • adioslunatic
      July 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM | #39

      @ LB I fell in love with Juicy watching him with his girls. For me, there is nothing sexier than a manly man wrapped around his daughter’s fingers! He positively glows whenever he looks at them. And he’s so hands on! I can see in my minds eye him cradling Audrianna and gazing at her with so much love! He takes them to their Tae Kwan Do classes and all of their sports. He stepped up and took over when Teresa had to hit the road – total package!!! Unlike that Klingon Fredo, terrified if he leaves his wife out of site for a second she’ll disappear. And, she probably would…

      I remember from the first episode – S1 – Teresa visited him at his office and she started to play “naughty secretary”, dropping a paper on the floor, and his reaction was so endearing! He giggled! Juicy giggled and got all shy. It was precious! I still say that Jackhole pulled that “cheating” scenario from that scene. The babysitter thing was just because Jackhole doesn’t trust her husband with the babysitter – especially so if she was as attractive as Teresa and Juicy’s babysitter. She was hot!

      Juicy may have some rough edges. But, for a year we saw him when he was at absolute bottom. I couldn’t condemn him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he really was in a private hell I don’t think any of us could imagine. He had to regroup and figure out who he was again. He put his self worth in being able to provide for his family and everything that enabled him to do so had *poof* disappeared. He was as happy as a clam when he had that little pizzeria and you can see the change in him when he had to give it up because he had no means of transportation. I despise Blahvo for what they did to portray him as some kind of animal – do none of those producers have souls? Do they not have a speck of humanity in their hearts?

      I ask myself on a daily basis why this bothers me so much and everyday the answer is because this is a real family. The women on the other shows I could care less about and don’t watch with much more than half an eye, and only NY and BH. BH I can’t watch since poor Russel, I can’t bare to see that husband killer. When I saw what Blahvo was doing to this family is when I actually started watching. Prior to the Christening episode I would watch an episode here and there if there was nothing on and more as a distraction, in the background while cooking or housecleaning. Background noise. After the Christening I went back and watched S1 and S2 and became even more enraged.

      I have been running two things through my mind – the first “sit down” w/Teresa and Fredo he referenced MeHo having an actual physical list ( emphasizing this by holding up a menu and running his finger down it) of grievances that she had regarding Teresa – who does that? Really, who?! That’s insane! And, talk about holding grudges – that’s the Mac Daddy of holding grudges!

      The other is MeHo’s tale of having open heart surgery when she was seven and her mother insisting that they perform it by incising her on her back???????????????????????????!
      A) There is no such procedure – even till today and B) A doctor is not going to perform a surgery based on a mother’s demands, a surgery as delicate as open heart, because momma wants her daughter to be able to wear ho dresses and show her boobies? What mother would even have that as a priority when her 7 year old needs a life saving surgery?

      How Teresa or Juicy haven’t taken an Uzi and opened fire on the whole sick bunch of them I have no idea. I am submitting them for canonization.

      • July 12, 2013 at 7:20 PM | #40

        I think the Juicy we saw in Season 3 and 4 was a man under stress from the GFC and his stupid decisions – imagine loosing eveything in front of the world? Of course Caroline blamed his demeanour on Teresa’s spending and desire for more. I think this is the real Joe, free from stress over how to provide for his girls.

        • Stefanie
          July 12, 2013 at 7:46 PM | #41

          He also looked happy in the first episode of the this season. He was working & doing something worthwhile. I wonder if he works with a constriction business while rebuilding after Sandy or if he started his own business. Does anyone know? I love him with his girls. It reminds me of my dad playing with us. I remember one day he promised my little sister he would pull her around on an old tire that we used as a sled when he got home. He had to work over & he was bit, but he took my sister out at 8:30 at night pulling her around in the snow. Joe is the kind of dad that my dad was & still is.

          • Cee_See
            July 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM | #42

            Awwww…that was a sweet story to share, thanks! My dad was a good daddy to me and my sister’s. He played Santa until I was 7 yo and my older sister 8 yo and she caught on! My dad now has Alzheimer’s Disease so he has no memory of the great memories he gave me and my sister’s!

            I agree that Juicy seemed to change during season 2 when their bankruptcy filing was made public. Joey still likes to throw that in Juicy’s face, the coward. I bet if Joey ever files for bankruptcy it’ll be Teresa and Juicy’s fault! I can’t believe Joey said something about Juicy being a fake! No, Joey is 100% phony! Joey ACTS like he can defend himself, knowing he can’t (even his skank know’s it’s all an act)! The scene in the van with Richie and the Gorga’s criticizing the Giudice’s was disgusting. I keep thinking that hours after they were running their mouths Juicy had all of them hiding behind security for fear he would hurt them! I have to admit that I have a lil’ bit of a crush on Juicy now. There’s something about a man who can physically defend his spouse! It still gets me how Joey seemed to scurry off when Rosie pulled his hands off Juicy’s testicles! Joey, the wuss, didn’t even make sure his Queen of the skanks was okay! Who does that, besides a scared lil’ roid raged shrimp who doesn’t know how to use his artificial muscle mass?

        • July 12, 2013 at 9:35 PM | #43

          I agree I went through the same thing with my hubby when he lost is job of 25 years, it was devastating to him. The company closed and he was 50 years old. The stress of that ate away at him as he was no longer contributing and he started saying he didn’t want to use my money. That annoyed me as we merged “our” money shortly after we met. He was unemployed for about a year even though he worked diligently and applied and applied for jobs. He was severely depressed. I remember the day he got a job (it’s a job not a career) and I was in a meeting and he came out to my office crying (I work from home) and I was like have to go on my conference call and he couldn’t even speak he was so emotional over it. It’s a shit job, but he’s contributing now and feels better about himself.

          During this time … my work was going nuts and I had to work 80-110 hours a week (yes this pre my housewife addiction). He was wonderul (and still is). He did all of the cooking, grocery shopping helped with paying bills etc. I was on conference calls until the wee hours of the morning and he would cut my steak up and bring it me to ensure I ate. Did we fight — absolutely! Did we call each other names out of frustration — absolutely. Do I think Juicy was set up by Bravo editing — on the Napa scene hell yes. Frankenbyting at it’s best.

          He adores those girls and Tre. I wonder why he is getting a fairly good edit edit this year? I love it though.

          I’ve always loved Juicy as he reminds me of my husband.

          Sorry for being so discombulated — crazy meeting day

          • Jeannie5233
            July 12, 2013 at 10:07 PM | #44

            This was not discombulated at all, mzjulesaz, and it gave me a huge smile. Now THAT is what a happy and sexy marriage is all about!! Maybe you should be writing a book entitled, “Love, Arizona Style”!!!!!! He cut your meat for you – how romantic! (I’m not saying that sarcastically – that is romantic!) What a wonderful story you told!

      • Silvana
        July 12, 2013 at 8:39 PM | #45

        Totally agree with everything you said. And he must be a nice guy cause even Caroline still sticks up for him blaming all his bad moods and problems on Teresa. She seems to think that Juicey’s a great guy but since her husband doesn’t seem to like her maybe she thinks that’s normal:-) lol

        • July 13, 2013 at 3:02 PM | #46

          Caroline does not actually relate to her husband. More than half of her conversations revolve around what other people are doing. When she does talk about their relationship, she moans about not having time with him. He tunes her out. She waste what little time they have by being so negative.

      • LIGirl
        July 13, 2013 at 1:03 AM | #47

        I have inside info. My friend knows the mother of the babysitter. They both have been very upset about the affair rumors because they could not be farther from the truth. The babysitter is a sweet, shy girl. It is truly a lie.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM | #48

          Thanks LIGirl – and nice to see you here!

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 5:58 PM | #49

      I agree Little Bear! Btw, I just watched Little Bear the other day. My kids loved that cartoon when they were little. They thought it was hysterical I was watching it now by myself, and slowly three teenagers joined me in the couch.

  2. July 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM | #50

    im not saying this to be mean but melissa was/is?? a lesbian or bisexual. I believe joe gorga likes to be the woman in this relationship and its fits bc melissa is bi. look how joe gorga likes wearing her clothes, now hes gotten lips injections, is jealous if his sister, as though he were female. Inside his male body, he is a female I believe

    • Little Bear
      July 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM | #51

      i think Melissa feeds his ego and is a yes woman to all things he wants… and so when joey gets in contact with the real world, he is in disbelief that people don’t think he is the golden tip of Jupiter’s penis

      • Little Bear
        July 12, 2013 at 12:43 PM | #52

        side note: what happened to Melissa accent? is she j lo now?

        • Little Bear
          July 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM | #53

          extra side note….

          wait, wait…. Teresa isn’t smart enough to write her blogs or books but she is smart enough to create this website, maintain it all on her own, etc etc?

          reality doesn’t suit you as you please

          • July 12, 2013 at 2:15 PM | #54

            Right? I’ve been having that same thought since Fame posted that a few days ago. I guess Teresa’s a ‘dumb, evil genius’ (quoting another poster).

          • July 12, 2013 at 7:22 PM | #55

            LOVE IT!

    • July 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM | #56

      Melissa has never really even tried to shut down the lesbian rumours.

  3. Little Bear
    July 12, 2013 at 12:47 PM | #57

    the gorga/giudice/wakile family who are blood related all have a hot temper and spew off nasty things when upset but i can now realize this that they all do this to each other. i think Kathy and Teresa are both working on this and hopefully rosie is too.. joey gorga is the guy who wont yell but he will calmly look at you and say something so disgusting with sad eyes and a gross pouty face. he thinks that’s better, which is worse in my opinion. i think Kathy came on the show arrogant and cocky. i think she put herself in check about her behavior so far. hope im right. im fair with my opinions and don’t hate or love people for life regardless.. Richie doesn’t help and is making her family look bad

    • July 12, 2013 at 1:42 PM | #58

      Thes people put themselves in check because they knew they screwed themselves on the reunion and if they ever wanted to sell anything they would have to rehabilitate their images. Don’t think for a second it is because they care about right and wrong.

      • adioslunatic
        July 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM | #59

        Amen, guessie, amen. It’s only self-preservation for those pigs. Rosie may be salvageable – if she gets off the sauce.

  4. charok
    July 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM | #60

    when i watch the infamous brawl video where missy is screaming to stop hurting us, is it me or is tre saying ( paraphrasing here= i want you to prove me wrong?) if so i always say this myself, i am skeptical of people in general and i love for them to “prove me wrong” ( and they do the right thing) ..correct me if i am wrong, wasn’t there a TH or something where tre would love to be proven wrong , ie melissa is not a fake, instigating troublemaker and genuine desire to reconcile the family – esp the releationship between tre and joey/missy and the relationship w/ the senior gorgas/ joey…however the skeptic in me says that missy will NOT prove us wrong, she is a hypocritical snake in the grass…leopards usually dont change their spots IMO.

    • July 12, 2013 at 2:18 PM | #61

      You’re right, Teresa did comment about loving to be proven wrong in her TH a coupla episodes ago.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM | #62

      That is one of my favorite sayings charok! Because it is true – Leopards DON”T change their spots! It is one of the reasons I don’t believe any of this BS being shoved down our throats by Bravo that these castmembers are all good now. Yeah, they’re in a good place because their bosses told them to be – and that is the only reason.

      As Caroline said, they would have probably all gone their separate ways if it weren’t for the show. Well, they would have all been better going their separate ways, including Teresa and Josephine. Because I believe Teresa will be hurt time and again by her brother. He has proven himself who he is and as that sayng goes “Leopards don’t change their spots.”

      • charok
        July 12, 2013 at 8:58 PM | #63

        jeannie5233 this is one of my favorite saying too! :) leopards also just happen to be one of my favorite animals too! LOL. im sure bravo had them call a “truce” too..

  5. Anoneemouse
    July 12, 2013 at 1:01 PM | #64

    As they all got on their “short bus” for the ride to the retreat, it was clear to see that NONE of these losers had any interest in creating peace within their own family. They should have just skipped the retreat if they felt that way and not wasted everyone’s time. Not one of these losers deserve T’s love or respect anyway.

  6. July 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM | #65

    I just watched First Look at SH and I cannot wait to watch it on my television. Bravo, Melissa and Josephine must think we are as simple minded as they are. To make the baby Joey dancing scene believable they should have had the same clothing on children during the entire segment. Only Antonia has the same “Peace” shirt on. Perhaps the boys changed their clothing, but I am not buying it.

    • adioslunatic
      July 12, 2013 at 6:49 PM | #66

      I got raked through the coals for doing it but I am sure, based on two conversations I had with CPS in NJ, first contact I initiated, second contact CPS initiated. The second call was to assure me that there would be an investigation.

      For evil to triumph it is necessary for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke. Words I live my life by and will never change no matter popular opinion. My morals do not fluctuate with popular opinion. Standards, ya gotta have ‘em or ya got nuttin’.

      • Jeannie5233
        July 12, 2013 at 8:29 PM | #67

        adios – my hat off to you for doing that. I don’t care what anyone says, it takes courage to take a stand and act on it, especially when it is not a popular one. I have much respect for you for taking action about this.

        The problem now is this scene opens with a voiceover from Josephine (so you don’t know whether it was said right then or not so editing is probably involved) saying “Is there a stripper in the house?!” and there is a shot of Melissa dancing. And then the scene ensues with little Joey grabbing his crotch which is still inappropriate for a three year old. I think it was a huge mistake to do this. Taking the video down from his TL, and letting this die down would have been a better way to handle this instead of filming this and giving it the potential of it all being rehashed again. Maybe I’m wrong; I really hope I am – for the little guy’s sake.

      • July 12, 2013 at 8:44 PM | #68

        It is always better to be safe than sorry concerning any situation involving innocent children. The posting of that video had my blood boiling.

        The filming is so chopped up. Melissa is packing that pink and blue dress she wore to the Candy Factory in Las Vegas. It appears, the children are rolling around Kathy’s luggage. No luggage in their bedroom resembled what Josephine pointed out in Kat’s driveway. Clearly, Gino shirt is not the same.

        • adioslunatic
          July 13, 2013 at 3:23 PM | #69

          @ Momma I consulted with my daughter prior because I wanted to make sure I wasn’t be too sensitive – she holds a Masters in Social Work and has worked crisis for years (her full time job is hospice but, still has a foot in the door doing crisis for children and teens on call wk ends) She was repulsed and told me to call.

          • Laram
            July 13, 2013 at 6:07 PM | #70

            Wow, good for you. Yes, it’s the professional code of ethics that Social Work majors have to heed and honor. Your daughter’s support and your actions speak loudly to doing the right thing.

  7. Karla
    July 12, 2013 at 1:13 PM | #71

    WooooHooooo go juicy!! Finally! that just goes to say he has had enough of Joe calling his sister horrible names! It upsets me that they all can get away with calling Tre names and not be called out for it… I mean does Bravo think that we are dumb and that we all like Melissa and agree with everything they say? Puhleeeese!! If they want to keep this show going with the drama they need to start digging on Melissa’s past and they will have so so so much to work with !!! just an advice from a RHONJ viewer.. and FYI Melissa & sisters yes there are ppl who don’t like you!!!

    • Silvana
      July 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM | #72

      Do you think that this was bravo’s plan from the very beginning, bring these people on the gorgas make them look like the good ones (with editing) and then season by season crucifiy them? I hope so it is starting to look like the are giving the gorgas just enough rope to hang themselves:-)

      • July 13, 2013 at 9:27 PM | #73

        I am wondering the same thing Silvana. I think it is more like a change in producers though???

    • July 12, 2013 at 10:00 PM | #74

      All those posters and Melissa as well have no idea how many times Teresa probably had to call her husband off from pounding her little hate monkey brother for his horrible disrespect to both his sister and their parents. Juicy is about respect, Joey is not.

    • Anon
      July 14, 2013 at 1:49 AM | #75

      Every time I read “puhleeeese” I hear it in Danielle’s voice. Am I alone in that? lol

  8. July 12, 2013 at 1:15 PM | #76

    This whole thing is making my blood boil. Try to explain away why your fairy of a husband had his lips and mouth on Joe’s balls and penis during a brawl which he started. What kind of man bites another man’s privates. Joe’s reaction was spot on. You want to suck my dic* here it is. at the 57 mark of the tape when the fight is barely started, Juicy says, (quite calmly I might add) he is biting my nuts. Spin that, Melissa. It is on tape. Already. I can’t WAIT to see how she can possibly spin this garbage and her vile comments on the bus in her blog. After Teresa hears this, how can she ever cope with them again. I hope she is showing all this crap to her mother. I really do.

    • Calypso
      July 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM | #77

      Can you imagine Sr. Gorga seeing this? It’s one thing to lose a fight fought fairly and toe to toe but this OMG. Josephine should have tucked and taped his junk, slipped on a tutu and pranced over to Juicy before this “ON DISPLAY” move. How proud Momma & Poppa Gorga must be sitting across the table from Juicy’s parents at dinner.

      • July 12, 2013 at 3:18 PM | #78

        It is probably the pity that they can’t stand.

      • Jeannie5233
        July 12, 2013 at 4:51 PM | #79

        In all seriousness, I hope to heaven they don’t see this and never do. How awful for them.

    • Confused
      July 12, 2013 at 2:27 PM | #80

      Now that I think about it further and watching it several times, I think that we need a professional’s opinion on this. It’s sick, and you’re right what kind of man bites another’s private parts? This reminds me of Mike Tyson biting the ear off of his opponent (can’t remember the other boxer’s name). Sick, Sick, Sick.

      • Dubbalicious
        July 12, 2013 at 3:44 PM | #81

        Evander Holyfield. :)

        • Confused
          July 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM | #82

          thanks

      • Kimmers
        July 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM | #83

        Wasn’t it Evander Hollyfield? Or something like that.

    • lucille mason
      July 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM | #84

      melissa will say, that baby joe thought it was a spicey meatball,thats why he bit it

      • Confused
        July 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM | #85

        Stop! You guys are killing me. Is it a fried or baked meatball.

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM | #86

      Didnt Kim D say in her blog that her parents hear everything from people in Jersey?

  9. July 12, 2013 at 1:16 PM | #87

    P.S. doesn’t look like that was Joey’s first rodeo with the ball munching, either.

    • rebelyell
      July 12, 2013 at 2:12 PM | #88

      I just did one of those laugh snorts.. ITA!!

      • Confused
        July 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM | #89

        Me too, I can’t stop laughing. He’s such a douche. This one minute fight did more damage to his reputation than the previous seasons combined.

        • July 12, 2013 at 3:19 PM | #90

          Do you think he was trying to bite his balls or undo his zipper with his teeth?
          #Gorgaloid the gonad gobbler.

          • Dubbalicious
            July 12, 2013 at 3:49 PM | #91

            Gessie, you are always funny..Always! Your take on Gorga the Gonad Biting Ninja was and is some of the funniest shit I’ve ever read here!! Each and every comment has made me laugh out loud!! You have a true comedic wit about you. Love it.. Thank you! Thank you! :)

            • July 13, 2013 at 3:31 PM | #92

              Aw, you’re very kind. The Gorgas make it too easy.

          • Confused
            July 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM | #93

            Too funny! The chuckles just started all over again………..the visual is hilarious. Especially when I hear juicy …. I guess the whoregas are good for one thing, at least they made us laugh. I don’t even think they are normal enough to understand that they are the laughing stocks of America right now — too stupid to know they should be embarrassed.

          • Calypso
            July 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM | #94

            #Gorgaloid the gonad gobbler – Hilarious! Perfect! Exceptional! A+! Well Done!
            That’s deserves a :) sticker too!

            • Kimmers
              July 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM | #95

              Ha! That is hilarious!

            • July 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM | #96

              Yes, but one of our very own posters went on twitter with another seemingly innocuous name and got immediately thrown in twitter jail. We have to be more subtle. Although, there was no objection to Greggy’s loose hole, so I don’t get it.

              • Laram
                July 13, 2013 at 6:11 PM | #97

                Gessiewtf, I posted this on another blog for you. Please write comedy! You truly have a funny bone gift! :-)!!

          • rebelyell
            July 12, 2013 at 4:05 PM | #98

            That was definitely some Midge foreplay.

          • Kimmers
            July 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM | #99

            Lmao!!! Juicy handled that little ball muncher like a straight up G!

          • Jeannie5233
            July 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM | #100

            OMG!!!! Again!!!! I cannot take it – Josephine aka GGG!!! Oh, gessie – you make me laugh – I am crying!!! Too much!!

            • Confused
              July 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM | #101

              My husband is wondering what I’m laughing at. I just can’t stop giggling!

          • Dianna
            July 12, 2013 at 7:48 PM | #102

            Haha that went through my mind also !!!!

          • July 12, 2013 at 8:19 PM | #103

            I am now inspired by the episode of Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives I just watched with my husband.

            This could be Josephine and Missy’s spinoff – Triple G.

            Introduction please:

            “Gorgaloid the Gonad Gobbler Yes folks welcome to Triple G. He can be seen grunting, grabbing and groveling his way across America.”

            • July 13, 2013 at 3:37 PM | #104

              ggggggggggross. Lol!

              • Laram
                July 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM | #105

                Please read Gessie’s posts on SH today, with the Joey Gorga blog. So damn funny!!!

  10. BravoFan22
    July 12, 2013 at 1:17 PM | #106

    Maybe this is why Joe Gorga had to attack that Johnny the Greek guy later in the season. He got beaten up by Joe Giudice, so he had to prove he could do the same to somebody else. I recall him fighting dirty there two, surprise punching the guy, pulling in Chris Laurita and hitting the guy with a sink. Then he used the body guards to block Johnny the Greek from responding. What a loser. I’ve seen Melissa for what she is since her first episode. Fake, fake, fake. She’ll never let Joe have a relationship with his family. She’s all about her own family, and that’s all that matters to her.

    • July 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM | #107

      And guess what. Despite being held back and pummeled, JTG STILL managed to throw the stump across the room and into a sink thereby breaking it. I’m beginning to think a four year old girl could beat the sit out of this monkey.

      • July 12, 2013 at 3:50 PM | #108

        Too bad Juicy just didn’t step aside at the last minute and let the little hate monkey go head first into the wall or all the way out the door!

        • July 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM | #109

          Just the image of that has me snickering! Just like one of the stooges!

        • July 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM | #110

          Priceless!

      • adioslunatic
        July 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM | #111

        Juice-heads can’t fight, I swear those muscles are filled with sawdust. Hope Juicy got a Tetanus shot.

    • lucille mason
      July 12, 2013 at 5:54 PM | #112

      then wacko hit guy on head with her heels

  11. princessvodka
    July 12, 2013 at 1:17 PM | #113

    I love the Joe and Rosie Explain… thingies. He is so friggin’ hot in the fitness one. I love, love, LOVE his smile. It’s official, I’m smitten. So the rest of you can all back off now!

  12. Stefanie
    July 12, 2013 at 1:42 PM | #114

    Richie was talking more crap about Teresa and Juicy than Rosie and Kathy were, but I’m going to have to rewatch it again to a make sure that is what I seen last night. Richie is Josephine’s new best friend. Who else is he going to talk dirty things to that will talk dirty back. They’re both disgusting in my book.

    • July 12, 2013 at 9:37 PM | #115

      Richie would shit a literal brick if Juicy came at him. Another waste of DNA. Who in their right mind would look at JoeG and Richie and think “wow that must be the winning team.”

  13. Elle
    July 12, 2013 at 2:12 PM | #116

    In that photo where Teresa is crying, are those Juicy’s teeth marks I see on Brother Joe’s thumb?

    • July 12, 2013 at 3:20 PM | #117

      Hopefully.

      • July 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM | #118

        Oh wait, sorry. I thought you were asking if Joey Gorga had bite marks. My bad. Yes, it certainly does look like bite marks from Melissa. P.s. It breaks my heart to see her cry like that. She looks like she is absolutely heartbroken.

        • Elle
          July 12, 2013 at 3:36 PM | #119

          Actually, I think that is her brother in the picture. I see a hat.

          • Jeannie5233
            July 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM | #120

            I think it is Josephine – and I agree gessie – that picture speaks a thousand words baring Teresa’s soul.

            When it comes to Josephine, we have seen Teresa try to make amends; smile, laugh, yell, make the first move, express her love for her brother and cry. When it comes to Teresa, what have we seen from Josephine??? Nothing but critcism, anger, and hate.

            Rosie says she and Joe are alike – terrible tempers but soft hearts. I beg to differ. I have seen that in Rosie – she does have a violent temper and needs help with it. But she also does have a heart and lots of it. She clearly loves others besides herself – she has redeemed herself a bit in my eyes. Josephine does have a violent temper but has a black hole where his heart should be. And even the Wizard can’t help him out. He is incapable of loving anyone except himself and anyone who he feels is worthy of him. He has made it clear his sister and brother-in-law is not amongst the worthy ones. Despicable little being that he is.

            • Kimmers
              July 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM | #121

              I agree wholeheartedly with your comment. He never has a kind word to say about his sister. He is nothing but mean spirited toward her. The thing is though he never says specifically why he hates her so much. He makes broad disparaging remarks about her but nothing specific.

            • Stefanie
              July 12, 2013 at 6:24 PM | #122

              I agree also! I think Rosie is more like Teresa when it comes to the soft heartiness, and her & Josephine are bad tempers.

        • July 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM | #123

          I have this maternal instinct thing toward Teresa and it breaks my heart to see her cry. I just want to pull her close and hug her.

          • adioslunatic
            July 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM | #124

            I totally get that, Jan!

          • July 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM | #125

            Me too as when she cries … it’s real not the dabbing of the eyes

            • ks2id2tx
              July 13, 2013 at 7:13 AM | #126

              That picture made me, literally, tear up! Poor Teresa! She looks as though her heart is breaking, into a million pieces, right at that moment! :’(

            • July 13, 2013 at 3:31 PM | #127

              When you cry for real, all the muscles in your face respond just as when you smile for real. People try to say she is fake as if saying it over and over makes it true. I remember when her brother said to her “because you tell it like it is” He has known the truth all along, he wants to ignore it and he can not when he is standing infront of Teresa eye to eye.

            • July 13, 2013 at 3:39 PM | #128

              Exactly.

        • Laram
          July 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM | #129

          It’s Joey. And, yes, heart wrenching every time I see her in pain. She says herself she is not a crier, except when it comes to her brother.

          I will probably bawl with her tomorrow night.

    • July 13, 2013 at 3:19 PM | #130

      I think it is. I thought it was kathy that went after Juicy’s nose, but my daughter and I watched it several more times and you can see Juicy bite down and Teresa’s brother shaking off the pain as he his backing away stumbling over Rosie

  14. pjbottoms
    July 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM | #131

    From the scene at the Gorga house and the scene on the bus, it is obvious that it is Melissa who has a gang of soldiers to discredit and “take down” Teresa, not the other way around. She even admits that she wanted Caro and Jac there as “mouthpieces.” They have declared war. Melissa sets a standard of loyalty for Teresa (get up and leave the room when people talk sh*t about me” and don’t associate with people who “want to take me down.”) Well, Teresa has done that–not because Melissa said so, but that’s the way she handles herself. (Season 3 she was different I know, but she has learned). Melissa not only remains in the room when people talk sh*t about Teresa, she hosts brunches etc. and provides free food and alcohol for people who are pleased to throw Teresa under the bus. What really gets me is the stuff that Melissa says–its just mean. She is not giving Teresa a taste of her own medicine, she is just being plain mean. Well, Melissa I hope all the nasty remarks you have said this season are strung together in a montage at the reunion. Melissa should have stayed home, but that would have given Joey a fighting chance for reconciliation—something Melissa does not want. They say they are in a good place now, but wait until Teresa sees this episode.PJ

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM | #132

      Exactly, pjbottoms!!! Exactly!!! Teresa has been and continues to be held to a different standard!

      They say they are in a good place but they aren’t. And you are right – this episode sure isn’t going to help matters. Even though they lived through it, they haven’t seen the THs and the scenes like this one – Teresa, I am sure, will be hurt. But then I ask myself why should she – by now, I would think she would come to expect nothing but this kind of talk from her own family. For them, it has become the norm.

    • adioslunatic
      July 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM | #133

      Notice she didn’t say it would be great to have more friends coming she said more MOUTHPIECES, she thinks she’s quite the puppet master!

  15. pjbottoms
    July 12, 2013 at 2:28 PM | #134

    Also– I think Kathy is trying to be neutral because she wants to stay on the show. She was supposed to be phased out this season, originally. I would like to see a sit down with Kathy and Teresa and listen to them talk about why Kathy resents Tre’s father.

    • Stefanie
      July 12, 2013 at 6:27 PM | #135

      I,would like to see that as well along with them making up and salvaging their relationship.

    • BravoFan22
      July 12, 2013 at 7:58 PM | #136

      Did you notice, when at the gym and Melissa says she did not visit her father-in-law because she was sick, Kathy mumbles under her breath, “you’re not sick.” That made me laugh.

      • Stefanie
        July 12, 2013 at 8:42 PM | #137

        Yes, I had to rewind DVR to see if I heard right. I also like the look she had when Melissa was talking to the stripper pole. The look was yeah right.

  16. nuttyz
    July 12, 2013 at 2:30 PM | #138

    Just saw on twitter that Kathy is writing a cookbook as well now. Go figure!

    • Confused
      July 12, 2013 at 2:37 PM | #139

      That would probably make more business sense…..the cannoli kit probably is not making much money. She can ride on T’s coat tail but not compete with here since she is the “dessert queen.”

      • nuttyz
        July 12, 2013 at 2:41 PM | #140

        True…I think she might have a chance if she sticks with dessert recipes. That would make the most sense for her.

        • July 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM | #141

          LOL Kathy should stick with desserts only but she won’t! She will have to have duplicate recipes of the ones Teresa used so she can say they came from her mother. She might sell a couple of copies but I don’t think many people buy just a dessert recipe only book.

          • Kimmers
            July 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM | #142

            She said on Twitter that she will be doing a follow up to the dessert book with a Mediterranean cooking book.

            • Kimmers
              July 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM | #143

              Oh I should also mention that when she said that on Twitter she was responding to a tweet form that derogatory person “Queenz of Media” who now goes by “Grace the Evil”.

              • July 13, 2013 at 3:43 PM | #144

                Isn’t that the transgendered online prostitute with multiple porn sites that if friends with the three Marco sisters?

                • Jeannie5233
                  July 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM | #145

                  Yes it is – Kathy has also become close to him as well.

            • adioslunatic
              July 12, 2013 at 7:26 PM | #146

              @ Kimmers I have not seen one thing that Katfish has cooked that looks remotely appealing. Her muffins were a joke and her other baked goods look dry. Her savory food looks repulsive and the recipes she used in Napa are standard restaurant fair.

              • Kimmers
                July 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM | #147

                I don’t think it looks like anything special. Not cook book worthy. Teresa has the market cornered on the cook book thing. I really do think a cook book by Kathy will flop. And I’m not just saying that to be mean

            • July 13, 2013 at 3:41 PM | #148

              Oh for the love of God.

        • lucille mason
          July 12, 2013 at 5:57 PM | #149

          i wouldn’t buy anything from kathy, it reminds me of richie

          • July 12, 2013 at 10:19 PM | #150

            ITA! The losers don’t realize that their business ventures are doomed from the start because viewers don’t like their behavior. They are all legends in their own minds and they feed each others over inflated egos.
            Outside of the people who what the show – they are not known like Teresa is for doing CA. Seriously – Caroline has the best example of how none of us want our children to grow up to be and yet she thinks she has advice to share? We know Melissa is a talentless whore – auto tune couldn’t help a wench like her and now a marriage bible and memoir?? Wacky Jacky is too drunk/high and lazy to do anything more than twitter hit businesses or pretend people are buying dirt water.

    • difromnyc
      July 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM | #151

      She should have done that from the get go.

    • happylady
      July 12, 2013 at 3:45 PM | #152

      Oh vomit, guess there will be a lot of fish recipes. another publishing company on my boycott list, geez this a freaking epidemic.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM | #153

      Kathy’s new cookbook will be all about desserts. And I bet everyone can guess who is publishing it – yep, that’s right – St. Martin’s Press.

      “Not-so-skinny Italian: Kathy Wakile inks a dessert cookbook deal

      Vicki Hyman/The Star-Ledger
      on July 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, updated July 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM

      Real Housewives of New Jersey
      Not-so-skinny Italian: Kathy Wakile inks a dessert cookbook deal

      Kathy Wakile will write a dessert cookbook for St. Martin’s Press, making her the fifth “Real Housewives of New Jersey” star to ink a book deal. She revealed the deal to OK! magazine, and St. Martin’s editor Michael Flamini confirmed the deal for “Indulge: Delicious Little Desserts — 75 Recipes that Keep Life Real Sweet,” via Twitter.

      “Sometimes I see really skinny girls. They may look great, but they’re not happy,” Kathy tells the magazine. “Have a cupcake, or I’ll make you some cookies, honey. Indulge. It’s not gonna kill you.”

      A dig at co-star and cousin Teresa Giudice’s popular string of cookbooks, “Skinny Italian”? We can’t wait to hear what Teresa has to say, considering how she reacted when Kathy intimated (perhaps innocently, perhaps not) last season that Teresa used Kathy’s mother’s recipe for the pizzelle in one of Teresa’s cookbooks. We thought her eyeballs were going to explode.

      In addition to Teresa’s cookbooks, Caroline Manzo released “Let Me Tell You Something: Life as a Real Housewife, Tough-Love Mother, and Street-Smart Businesswoman,” a memoir and advice book, earlier this year, and Teresa’s sister-in-law Melissa Gorga has “Love Italian Style” due out this fall. Danielle Staub, from the first two seasons of the show, parlayed her troubled early adulthood into a memoir, “The Naked Truth: The Real Story Behind the Real Housewife of New Jersey.”

      Dina Manzo, another departed housewife, didn’t write a book, but she did snag her own HGTV show, “Dina’s Party.” And we wouldn’t be surprised if Jacqueline Laurita pens her own memoir about raising a child with autism. ”

      http://www.nj.com/entertainment/celebrities/index.ssf/2013/07/kathy_wakile_cookbook.html

      The one comment under this article told the author to (paraphrasing here) shush and not give Jacs any ideas! Heaven forbid!!!!

      • lucille mason
        July 12, 2013 at 5:58 PM | #154

        teresa will be nice and wisgh her good luck, like she did for melissa

      • July 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM | #155

        Kathy should STFU – I am skinny, I am happy and I eat cupcakes because I have a sweet tooth!!

  17. Confused
    July 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM | #156

    Is it just me, or does whimpy — top photo of the whorega’s — look mad and evil? So scary, he looks like he wants to beat someones arse (or maybe he got his whipped)

    • July 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM | #157

      He is trying to strike a pose (like he must do constantly in any mirror he finds himself by) and instead of looking menacing and ruggedly handsome – he looks like he is constipated.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM | #158

      I don’t use the word “evil” or “hate” very often because for me, personally, they connotate exteme descriptions. However, yes – I do believe Josephine has an evil streak in him and is “mad with hate” for Joe and Teresa, stemming from his irrational jealousy.

      • adioslunatic
        July 12, 2013 at 7:31 PM | #159

        I agree, Jeannie. You don’t toss those words around but, that…thing, is unadulterated evil. And his little horsey too. They creep me out.

      • Laram
        July 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM | #160

        I agree @Jeannie!

  18. nuttyz
    July 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM | #161

    Someone posted this on bravo under Jacqueline’s blog

    “I just read a couple of postings of viewers stating that your husband might be missing hanging out with Juicy Joe…I guess they were right. Just watched Juicy Joe telling Tre’ that you texted him..saying it’s Okay for him to be friends with your husband. How crazy are you? You’ve done nothing but insult the Giudice’s in every episode and reunion show. If they’re so horrible why would you want your husband to hang with him? You’re whacked!” – bravofan12

    Does anyone know what clip bravofan is referring to?

    Also I don’t see the bus clip where the gorgas and walkiles are talking about Teresa… is that on bravo site?

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 2:50 PM | #162

      That scene was in the First Look episode which aired last night. Teresa and Joe were driving up to the Retreat – interesting that the rest of them went together in the big bus – and that is when Joe told Teresa about Jacs’ text to him.

      • nuttyz
        July 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM | #163

        Oh I see…I didn’t even know they did that! lol Thanks :)

        Yeah I’m surprised they all didn’t go together like they always do for all the trips. But I guess it worked out well for Melissa since she got all that time to make sure Joey is still on track about attacking Teresa and won’t have a change of heart.

        • difromnyc
          July 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM | #164

          you can view it online. It’s on the stoopid housewives site.

          • nuttyz
            July 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM | #165

            Thank you difromnyc! Just saw the whole clip…did Joey really say “we got a stripper in the house” while they were packing, in front of his kids?? I have no words left for this couple.

            • Jeannie5233
              July 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM | #166

              Yes – he did. Oh, I have words – I just can’t say them – my mother would wash my mouth out with soap!

              !@#$%@#$%^#$%^&$%^&*

              • Laram
                July 13, 2013 at 6:24 PM | #167

                At least it wouldn’t be washed out with red pepper flakes! :-)

      • July 12, 2013 at 3:02 PM | #168

        I know it was just a coincidence, Bravo is not that creative. Team Gorga was dressed in white clothes and boarded a white bus and Team Guidice in black clothes, riding in a black SUV.

  19. Elle
    July 12, 2013 at 3:03 PM | #169

    I just remembered Missy Malaprop talking about Teresa’s “shkeeme”!

  20. July 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM | #170

    The retreat in Lake George, NJ was on February 10-12, 2013. Fame-Whorgas was reporting, in real time, about events as season 5 was filming. Since Melissa reads FW, then she and Joe would be affected by what was being reported at the time they were filming, and would be reacting to stories that were published in the weeks prior to the retreat. At the time, their anger at Teresa must have been full blown since they believed, and still believe, she is behind FW (I will repeat – I do not work for Teresa, have never met her or communicated with her or any of her friends or family members – she has nothing whatsoever to do with this blog, which I started because the coverage online was unbalanced and I felt great compassion for Teresa because of the predicament she was in, with everyone ganging up on her and lying about her, and I wanted her to have a fair shot at defending herself against Melissa’s lies).

    Here are the stories FW published right before the retreat:

    1/16/2013
    Melissa Gorga’s Ex Boyfriend Bryan Bowen AKA ‘Bulldog’ (FW broke the story about Melissa’s affair)

    1/27/2013
    The Sleeping ‘Bulldog’, Bryan Bowen, Has Been Awakened; Joe Gorga Sold His Parents’ Home Out from Under Them

    1/29/2013
    Melissa Gorga and Her Sisters Keep Stirring the Pot and They Are Trying to Start a Twitter War With Melissa’s Ex Bryan ‘Bulldog’ Bowen

    1/30/2103
    Melissa Gorga’s Minions Launch Second Twitter Attack on Her Ex Bryan ‘Bulldog’ Bowen; Teresa Giudice Extends a Special Invite to Milania Hair Care Launch Party to be Filmed by Bravo with the Entire RHONJ Cast

    2/1/2013
    Dina Manzo (Who Just Landed an Acting Role) Announces She is Getting Divorced; Is Jennifer Dalton Teresa Giudice’s or Melissa Gorga’s Friend?; Teresa to Get Revenge in Season 5 RHONJ?; Joe Gorga Berated Teresa for Not Visiting Him in the Hospital

    2/4/2013
    Melissa Gorga Tweets That She Has the Most Amazing Husband in the World; Melissa Works Out With Bulldog Fitness; Bryan ‘Bulldog’ Bowen Gives His First Interview

    2/12/2013
    Melissa Gorga’s Former Co-workers at Lookers Gentlemen’s Club Could Could Get Their Own Show

    2/13/2013
    Life & Style Magazine Reports (Cover Story) on Melissa Gorga’s Extra-Marital Affair with Brian ‘Bulldog’ Bowen

    • July 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM | #171

      This totally confirms that the scene of little Joey doing the Michael Jackson dance was re-created. They were more than likely trying to figure out what Gino might have been wearing on a Sunday, a Giant’s jersey. Only thing football seasons was over with and Gino was wearing an orange shirt and the polo emblem on Joey’s shirt was different. I may find more discrepancies after I watch it on my television.

      • Laram
        July 13, 2013 at 6:35 PM | #172

        I never watched the video of Joey, because I was sickened by the stories and comments.

        Had I never read nor watched the show, and saw the clip of Joey dancing, I would thought he was saying I have to go “pee”, and disgusted that they not only filmed it, but didn’t leave the clip on cutting room floor–he still has pull-ups on!

        The fact that Melissa said “Michael Jackson”, would have made more ill. However, I did read all of the stories and comments around the video. I agree, the idiots should have let it die! Poor kid!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM | #173

      Fame – this timeline is interesting in that, once again, this is what was being published in real time and I have no doubt the Gorgas were reading all of this. Then they went on the retreat and all of it boiled over. Yet, as viewers, Melissa’s cheating scandal has hardly been touched and we have seen very little of it.

      We are supposed to believe they are in a good place, but we are all waiting to see where the other shoe is going to fall. Because we know it is.

      And another question would be -Once, Melissa’s book is released, how does Bravo spin it as a tome about her happy sexy marriage (notice part of her tag line is “loyal wife”), when rumors of a cheating scandal have surfaced. They are up to something to make Melissa come up smelling like a rose so that she can sell her book.

      • Jeannie5233
        July 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM | #174

        More confirmation that the Gorgas are reading FW and other media:

        Joey to Melissa, while they are packing: “She has to stop stabbing us in the back. Stop trying to put all this dirty stuff about us out there. . . .”

      • July 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM | #175

        From day one Fame has hit it out of the park on these cretins! She isn’t a thorn in their side, she is the whole freaking rose bush. And there is no doubt in my mind that the Gorgas and Wacky Jacky read this blog everyday just like all the loyal posters/lurkers do.

    • adioslunatic
      July 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM | #176

      You had ‘em good an’ fired up there, Fame!

      • July 13, 2013 at 3:50 PM | #177

        When I first found this site, I thought you were Pete Guidice. I don’t remember what gave me that impression. I remember being amazed that he was so brilliant. This site is truly a community service. There was no place for people who saw the light to go at that time.

        • July 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM | #178

          I remember that gessie. In e-mails you kept addressing me as “Pete” and I couldn’t figure out why. I should have asked you right at the beginning, but I didn’t, and as time passed, it seemed like it was too late to say anything, so I just let it ride until you finally realized I wasn’t “Pete.” I really had no idea at the time that you thought I was Pete Giudice. Too funny! And you’re right about there being no place to vent because the blogs were so one-sided against Teresa, and Bravo was biased against her too. AllAboutTRH came along but I still felt there was a void – no place for in-depth stories to be assembled and organized – a repository for the truth, as I call it in the “About” section of FW.

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM | #179

      We all love you @Fame, thanks for this blog! I came onto it out of disgust and compassion for what was obvious in the premeditated actions towards Teresa by the family, friends, production, editing, etc.

      How can anyone watch Season 3, episode 1 and not see it, is beyond me?

  21. Kimmers
    July 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM | #180

    Melissa and Joey just don’t get it. They can’t wrap their heads around the fact that people do not like them. Not just that fans don’t like them but the fact that Teresa is so very much more popular. Look at the Seacrest poll – Tre got #1 I think Melissa was in the bottom ten, Someone please correct me if I’m wrong. And the thing is that they blame Teresa for it. They think she is the reason the fans don’t care for them. It’s so ridiculous that they can’t just face reality and realize that they are just never going to be in the same league as Teresa.

    • Calypso
      July 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM | #181

      Round 1 – Teresa 10.93% over Melissa’s 4.15%
      Round 2 – Teresa 23.87% over Melissa’s 0.89%
      Semi Finals – Teresa 23.6% over Lisa Vanderpump’s 22.27%
      Finals – Teresa 36.81% of the votes over Lisa Vanderpump’s 30.72 %

      • Jeannie5233
        July 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM | #182

        Oh, that must burn sooooo bad!!!!

        • adioslunatic
          July 12, 2013 at 7:37 PM | #183

          Get that b!tch some Bactine – STAT!

    • July 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM | #184

      Guess the famewhorgas didn’t see that Rosie stole all of Kathy’s thunder…….well I’m just guessing but that was probably Teresa’s fault too.

  22. July 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM | #185

    I’m sorry but someone going straight for the nuts in a fight has clear mental issues, if not jealousy issues. Joe Gorga is a sick sick man. Especially when he says stuff like I like to fuck my wife when my sister makes me angry it is disgusting.

    • AnnieMarie
      July 12, 2013 at 6:52 PM | #186

      Whoa, I had to reread the last sentence of your comment. Britney, I thought you wrote that JoGo said, “I like to fuck my sister…” And this is what happens when I skim-read. Whoops, my bad! I had to think there for a minute.

    • adioslunatic
      July 12, 2013 at 7:39 PM | #190

      To be fair, I think that was spliced. Now, I must go take a shower because I feel dirty for having to defend a scum bag like Fredo.

      • AnnieMarie
        July 12, 2013 at 8:04 PM | #191

        Anything JoGo related, I feel like I have to take a shower. You know how the saying I wouldn’t even something a 12 ft pole. I think I would still burn the pole and them take a shower.

      • July 12, 2013 at 10:36 PM | #192

        Clearly JoGo gets aroused when he is berating his sister – he gets off on hurting her! So his statement of going home and banging his wife after one of those “I get so mad (aroused) with my sister sessions is sick Gorga foreplay! Spliced scene or not – he has a sick attachment to his sister.

      • July 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM | #193

        I don’t . Even Bravo isn’t that twisted. Are they?

        • adioslunatic
          July 13, 2013 at 4:16 PM | #194

          In a word, yes. They’ve been playing around with that since MeHo lit up at the reunion when Teresa got repulsed over MeHo saying they fight like girlfriend and boyfriend…I think it was MeHo that said that…Someone correct me if I’m wrong…

  23. July 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM | #195

    I’m a bit apprehensive about the upcoming episode. The folks on Bravo’s Facebook page are blasting Teresa over the ‘stick with your blood’ comment. They actually believe she’s telling Joey to leave Melissa and the kids. I know that’s not what she means and I hope this episode shows that. And I shouldn’t care but I get so pissed when I read ignorant rants.

    The sneak peaks so far appear to verify Teresa’s claim that the problem with the break in her family is, in fact, Melissa, and not some deep-seated, unhealthy, insestual feelings toward her brother. But I’m sort of expecting a big let down on how this episode plays out; that somehow it will spin that Teresa is delusional, obsessive and therefore, at fault…again.

    • July 12, 2013 at 8:36 PM | #196

      Teresa actually replied to a fan today on the subject of blood thicker than water and stand by your family. It was directed at Jacqueline.

    • July 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM | #197

      If there’s an unhealthy incestual obsession, I’d say Joe Gorga is the one harboring it. That guy has deep problems.

  24. July 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM | #198

    Kathy: We’re not here to prove you wrong; we’re here to hope you stop.

    Stop what exactly?

    • Luvfamewhorgas
      July 12, 2013 at 7:18 PM | #199

      Exactly. Stop what? Being a hard working success? Being a happy wife and mom? Oh I forgot Teresa’s life is supposed to revolve around pushing success (pie) for her douchie stump brother, her POS SIL and apparently lazy cousin who ran like a banshee trying to grab those coattails.

    • Confused
      July 13, 2013 at 10:32 AM | #200

      Maybe that comment is directed at someone else? Like maybe ball muncher Joey? Maybe this isn’t the first time he’s taken a bit from the nut? Maybe he’s addicted to balls? Who knows.

  25. July 12, 2013 at 7:11 PM | #201

    I just watched the clip – and the first thing that I thought was what’s wrong with these people!!! How can they listen to Joey begging to fix his family one day and then have him turn around and say it’s all bullshit and STILL have sympathy for him. I’m so glad that Rosie’s on to them. Doesn’t change my opinion of her. They need the Manzo/Laurita back up not to “show Teresa she’s wrong” but to show us. Ugh, they just can’t get any lower. They are so transfixed! Missy just looks so mean girl in this clip. I don’t need to reiterate the double standard: who talks about who’s marriage? I think it is evident that Joey and Ritchie, the two that came up with the therapy idea thought this type of thing was a waste of time meaning that it (the original session) was a total setup – a ploy to expose Teresa.

    http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/category/therapy-as-a-ploy-for-more-ammunition-against-teresa/

    I think that Joey was so use to being the golden child in his family. Teresa has pointed out the distinction between girls and boys in traditional families that he couldn’t stand her having a moment in the spotlight. As much as I love Juicy, he does seem to “wear the pants”, again in a traditional sense, so Teresa’s always been told what to do by her Dad (she says how strict they were), her husband, her brother. By doing this show, she got a bit of power and I don’t think Joey can handle her having it.

    • Stefanie
      July 12, 2013 at 7:38 PM | #202

      Great Post!

    • adioslunatic
      July 12, 2013 at 7:45 PM | #203

      I see Teresa and Juicy in a very balanced relationship.. I don’t see him controlling her at all.

      • Sackem
        July 13, 2013 at 5:15 AM | #204

        I find he alpha’s her a bit,not controlling just “whatever, Tre, I told you what to do.” More sort of domineering

        • adioslunatic
          July 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM | #205

          Nah, she gives it right back. I remember her getting on his case about “what did I tell you about that” when he threw her a “shut up” and he took it like a man, didn’t make a peep, and he was drunk! They’ve been together forever, way before they dated or married and have a certain way of communicating. It doesn’t bother me and seems ot work for them and quite well.

  26. July 12, 2013 at 7:16 PM | #206

    My comments from last blog>>>>>>>>*1) st and foremost, The Juicester is MY man momaJ…altho’ there’s enough of him to share with Sackem and all others who agree he brings that certain Oooooommmph to scripted REALity…lol! Yes I hated the C word but have always looked at it realistically…that’s how these folks roll. It’s bad, it’s ugly but it’s simply not the same as if my hub would call me that name. Mainly because not every other word out of our mouths is F or B. You know what I think hurt Teresa the worst (besides his mic’ed up stupidity)? The time Juicy was drunk telling the world how he had broken up with T, and she’d chased and begged him back. Like all the things he says, it had the ring of truth and the pain of it was etched in her expression. They obviously have made it work, and although I’m not sure what I’d bet (maybe 1/2 the farm?lol) I’m in the minority who believe Juicy hasn’t and isn’t cheating. *ducks*

    *2) I’d just finished howling with laughter to Jeannie’s after-fight Season predictions, only to start laughing all over again to gessie’s newspaper fight recap article>>>ROTFLMAO!!! :) :) Tx gals!

    *3) OT: I’m developing an addiction to Devious Maids and Pretty Wicked Moms

    *4) Why oh why does WordPress hold my comments but let Dee-Troll Knowlton glide right up from under It’s bridge and onto the page? :(

    *5) Famey’s been rocking with one great blog after another! Tx for the extended version of Baby Baboon Brother in law Beat Down.

    *6) Was 29 when my hub and I got together, and my 30′s were spent much like yours corky! Now I’m 52 (and lmao when Caroline said her sex drive was “great”…and also claimed to shave in the shower as a skin exfoliating treatment, Bitch please! You’ve been in menopause for at least the last 5 years!) My libido, however, lives in Siberia not France. :)

    *7) I agree that the SLEAZE that is their baby and ONLY son has affected the Gorga’s, but just think that there is something of a homophobic or homosexual element in the past fueling their preference for their son in law. We’ve certainly seen these type antics by JoeGorga on the show and WWHL…the comment by Gorga the Elder about crying to Mommy at The Christening all the way to present day of The Juice unzipping and inviting him to blow him adds to my opinion that there definitely is something up with this guy. Has it ever been verifiedhe was a male stripper and if so, was it only for females?

    *8) Sorry to be a blog-comment hog…trying to see if somehow posting from my laptop will make this go through faster. Love reading through the comments to relax after work!

    • adioslunatic
      July 12, 2013 at 7:50 PM | #207

      You’re not alone, I don’t think Juicy would ever cheat. He would never disgrace his family that way.

    • Stefanie
      July 12, 2013 at 8:47 PM | #208

      They have been trying how manta seasons now to prove he cheats. If he cheated on her wouldn’t the other women already come out and sold her story. He hasn’t cheated on her.

      • corky21
        July 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM | #209

        I dunno. I hope not. But on this old blog, some women in the town that new this show was coming commented that all of the husbands of the wives cheated and were in strip clubs all the time. That call at the winery. I think it was a woman. And, Teresa has talked about other women to him and he said, something like: “it is what it is” then dropped the subject. So I’m not convinced that he doesn’t, but I sure hope he doesn’t.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 12, 2013 at 10:25 PM | #210

          You may already know this – That old blog was On Common Ground a blog by Heather Molina and, while most of the posts are “Anonymous”, it has been shown through various outlets, those women were Melissa and her sisters.

          http://oncommonground.blogspot.com/2008/04/real-housewives-of-new-jersey.html

          • corky21
            July 13, 2013 at 7:51 AM | #211

            I keep forgetting that blogname, thanks Jeannie. Yes, I knew it had to be Melissa and her sisters, and I think Wacko’s daughter too. One post sounded much like Caroline as well. There was one I remember that seemed to allude to Al Manzo, could be a lie, but a poster said she had some affair with him. Caroline has now also alluded to something as well, then covered it up by saying maybe when they were young and dating??? Not sure, that is how I took it.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 13, 2013 at 8:34 AM | #212

      Oh Kitten – please be a blog hog more often – this was great!! ;)

  27. July 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM | #213

    #9) The name of my new rock band >> “Maniacal Girl Squirrels” Tx Murfsgirl! lol :)

  28. July 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM | #214

    Joe Gorga’s face looks seriously strange in this pic. His features just look odd to me…can’t put my finger on what it is about it. (??????????)

    • adioslunatic
      July 12, 2013 at 7:51 PM | #215

      It’s the lips, had a little plumpage added – do an image search – it’s a pisser! Oh, and lipgloss…

    • July 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM | #216

      He had his lips plumped. For realz.

      • dawnkeybols
        July 12, 2013 at 10:14 PM | #217

        Joey is Zoolander

    • Dianna
      July 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM | #218

      The top photo he has Melissa’s lip plumper on.

    • Confused
      July 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM | #219

      Maybe he’s developed an allergy to nuts?

  29. Stefanie
    July 12, 2013 at 7:33 PM | #222

    I guess Juicy did bite Josephine. I hate to say it, but he deserves it after lunging & biting him in the privates. I was watching the First Look of New Jersey & you can tell Measy & Josephine have no attention of making up. They want to crucify her!

  30. July 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM | #223

    #10) The Maniacal Girl Squirrels first hit single will be the epic “Golden Tip of Jupiters Penis” Tx LittleBear! LMAO!!! :)

  31. Luvfamewhorgas
    July 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM | #224

    So I am a gluten for punishment…I watched the brawl episodes a couple of times. I apologize in advance for my “Rosie” rant:

    1) I have 2 brothers. 1 is 3 years older and 1 is 9 years younger. If either of them ever, EVER called me garbage or scum I would physically attack them. I know Andy Cohen just got a hard on thinking about the ratings gold but seriously, I will fight a grown ass man. Not saying I won’t have my ass handed to me but either of my brothers will tell you “don’t make her mad.” The younger one learned looooong ago like 20 years give or take I will full on fist fight. The older one is hard headed and the last time we ALMOST came to physical blows my mom was between us hitting us with a wooden spoon. I was like 32. I ain’t proud. Not a better moment but I was ready to roll.
    2) My husband’s brother’s wife dislikes me to say the least and after ignoring her and other family members for 18 months give or take he was advised I would put the bitches head through the wall. Again not proud but I have had enough and am not in middle school and I do NOT have time for juvenile behavior. So Teresa is a bigger person than me obviously.
    3) There are times I would like to choke my husband. Like really really choke him but IF ANYBODY A-N-Y-B-O-D-Y physically attacked him male or female, man or woman, relative or stranger, I would let loose let a rabid raging bull.

    And I bite, pull hair, scratch, punch, slap, kick, throw furniture what ever it takes. Haha ask my older brother. Although I have NEVER bitten anyone’s ball sack. I would have to be pretty hard up to go there.

    Thank you. I needed to release that. And I am pretty sure Melissa goes over and either slaps around on Teresa or tries. I can’t tell if security kept them apart. I am sure I will be hopping mad Sunday night and super excited at the same time when the JUICE lays the whoppn’ on the the douche and company. I respect a man who can full on fight one man while a man, two women and a third woman are trying to either pull him off or are attacking him as well.

    • July 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM | #225

      You feel better right? This is a GREAT place to release frustrations about all things RHoNJ!!!!

      • Luvfamewhorgas
        July 12, 2013 at 8:57 PM | #226

        Yes. Yes I DO!!

    • July 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM | #227

      Are you by any chance 98 lbs. soaking wet or a red head? You sound like a spit fire! I am not trying to make fun or offend you, but this was hilarious. I don’t think I’d like to be on your bad side!

  32. July 12, 2013 at 8:52 PM | #228

    I just wanted to address something that was on a recent blog. Jeannie… you said you want to hear what Penny and JTG have to say and figure out the truth on your own. I agree however I don’t feel comfortable with JTG’s ability to tell the truth at this point. Supposedly he agreed that Teresa had nothing to do with the set up at Poshe. Now all of a sudden Teresa set up this meeting with Jan? A meeting with a friend or ex-friend of Melissa’s? I don’t know, it just doesn’t seem like Teresa would think it’s worth the risk even if she did want that info out there (which I’m not even convinced about either so…). I do want to know the truth and honestly… nothing would surprise me, however, I don’t trust Penny or JTG. From what I gather, Penny supposedly came on as a friend to Teresa. Now if Penny thought she was coming on as a friend to Teresa and then Teresa flipped on her when she started saying stuff about Melissa which Teresa wanted nothing to do with… that was the beginning of the end for her… She thought she was helping Teresa and then feels that Teresa “stabbed her in the back”… she may want to return the favor.

    I do see pain in Teresa when she talks to her brother. I just do not think that’s an act nor is it scripted IMO. Not saying that everything leading up to it isn’t… I agree that 99% of what goes on is contrived. I don’t believe what’s happening would be happening if not for the show. I believe the base of the “story” is true, but everything piled up on it is manipulated by Siren in one way or another. There is nothing that will change my opinion of Melissa and Joey… or Jax and Caroline for that matter. Not even if I found out Teresa DID set her up. Like you said… someone can only take so much before they crack. However, again, I don’t believe Teresa set it up… after all, we know very well how the info on Melissa’s cheating came out… and it wasn’t Teresa who started the “rumor.” We know that as a fact. Also, his claiming Teresa set it up just doesn’t jive with the tweets between him and Bryan at the time all this was happening in real time, prior to Teresa “turning on” Penny.

    If my instincts are correct and JTG and Penny are lying, that will just give the little bit of power that seems to be slipping through Messy’s fingers right back to her. I don’t want to see that happen. If I was confident it would be the truth, fine… but I think there will be more lies just to make Teresa look bad. Who the heck wants to see that happen?

    I don’t blame you for wanting the truth… I would LOVE to hear “the truth.” With all that’s involved… how can we really decipher what “the truth” is… no matter who say what? I don’t think it will ever be anything but conjecture. I am certain about one thing… I don’t trust JTG or Penny no matter what they say and I can’t imagine it helping to sort out any of this mess… it may confuse it even more.

    Truth: Melissa is evil… Joey is bad to the core… Jax is a lunatic… Caroline is full of it… Kathy is passive-aggressive… Richie is a disgusting pig… you can take ALL that to the bank. Oh… and Milania is an adorable little fire cracker who cracks me up and deserves her own show! (Had to throw that in.)

    • July 12, 2013 at 9:55 PM | #229

      Great post!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 9:56 PM | #230

      What can I say dch60 – except, again – I know I am in the minority here. Yes, I would agree with you that it may all come down to conjecture, but I still want to hear it and then decide, like I said, for myself, is this worth something or is this all smoke and mirrors just to get on a show. Something does not sit right with me with the whole Penny/Teresa/Melissa situation – it bothers me that I can’t put my finger on it try as I might and if I could, I would bounce it off here to get everyone else’s feedback. I was raised in a household where truth was tantamount – get caught in a lie and boy, did you pay for it! I also worked in the legal field and am married to an attorney. We all know information is power. It’s all about gathering evidence – some of it real; some of it circumstantial, and most of it bullsh*t. And I do believe in three sides to a story. Then it becomes a matter of putting it all together to make or break the case.

      I know I am never going to get to the real truth – that is impossible. I guess I am a glutton for punishment!!!

      P.S. As you said, there is no way in the world I believe Teresa’s pain is scripted – that is as genuine as it gets. I believe the rift in her family is as deep as what we are seeing and I also believe it will never be completely healed. It possibly wouldn’t have gotten as bad as it is now if Melissa and Josephine hadn’t pushed their way on the show. My favorite saying like I’ve said before – Leopards don’t change their spots. The pain Teresa is feeling – she will feel again and again if she doesn’t cut her brother out of her life – I believe that with every breath of my being having been through it myself. It cuts like a knife and the wound leaves a scar but better a scar than a weeping wound that never heals.

      • corky21
        July 13, 2013 at 8:02 AM | #231

        I agree with you Jeannie. Teresa needs to cut him like fat off a hambone. However, even when she does, she will still hurt. They were a close family, and the mind and heart never forget. I have an issue with my own family. We are a large family, close, but not really close. We all grew up independent. I moved out very young and took care of myself. Over the years, we all hung out when we were young and then we all married, had kids, etc. We still live close within an hour’s drive to each other. We meet at Christmas, and sometimes once a year for something. That’s about it. However, I’m hurt that none of my siblings have ever called to come see my son, one sibling is the Godfather too. Before I had my son, I called and asked to visit my nieces and nephews, and did so on plenty of occasions; they never called me to ask me to come visit. i’ve also made attempts in the recent past to get the kids together and make a trip, but i’m told they are too busy. Yet, none of them, get back to me, and make an effort. Then there is a family business issue, one sibling takes over, won’t listen to anyone else, does whatever he wants, cares little about what he says, etc. He has also yelled at me for no reason, never apologizes, another sibling is the same. THey just run ramshod all over ya.

        Anyhoo…I’ve said I cut them out, and I have, but the pain of wishing things were different continue to remain. I will go to a family outing, etc. but it’s always we a heavy heart.

        I don’t have contact or see them very often at all, and I say I don’t care, but I’m human and wish it were different, and it never goes away. Even after you think you forgive, the next time they mess with you, all the scars from the past rise to the surface.

        All this will continue with Teresa too. She has to cut them off. She should let the kids see each other, and be civil when she is with Melho and Gorilla. But that’s it. She will continue to hurt forever though. It never goes away.

        • Jeannie5233
          July 13, 2013 at 8:29 AM | #232

          hey corky21 – as I said above, I’ve been through this and I feel your pain – here’s a hug ((((corky21)))) and a smile :)

      • Laram
        July 13, 2013 at 6:50 PM | #233

        Excellent @Jeannie. I, too, want the truth on the Greeks.

    • July 13, 2013 at 9:58 PM | #234

      Does anyone think that there could maybe be several truths that all contradict the other due to producer / Bravo involvement? I totally believe that Penny could have been begged to bring Jan and was told it was to expose Melissa. I also believe that Teresa was told to show up and discuss getting Milania Hair Care in their salons. That is why I don’t think we will ever know the whole truth.

  33. July 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM | #235

    I just don’t see teresa gathering a group of women to reveal that melissa gave a guy a blow job in a parking lot. She knows she would be CRUCIFIED by Bravo and the viewing public. I feel fairly certain that Teresa just goes where Bravo tells her to show up, as she is a “good bravo employee” They told her to go get her hair done with KimD last season and she complied. They told her to go to this lunch with Jan and she complied. She doesn’t care because she knows and she knows that Bravo knows that she didn’t set up anything, Bravo did. That’s how it works, folks. I believe that teresa’s pain and desire to make things better with Joey for her parent’s sake is genuine. We see a lot of people cry with fake tears and bullshit expressions. Look at that picture Fame posted of Teresa crying. She looks crushed.

    • Iris
      July 12, 2013 at 9:48 PM | #236

      I know I really feel for Theresa… But at least she’s got some Juicy that’ll give her a hug or some loving when she needs it. She’s got good support from her hubby, kids and parents. If her brother and sil can’t, don’t or won’t change their horrific ways of fame whoreing and create drama then there’s something wrong with them.

    • July 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM | #237

      I’m with you Gessie!

  34. Bullie
    July 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM | #238

    I actually yell at my screen when I watch these things. Like, actually out loud for everyone around to hear, “THEN WHY DID YOU COME ON TERESA’S SHOW?!?!!”

    I know RHONJ was not Teresa’s show S1-2, but because of these Wakile & Gorga morons, it is. I do not understand how they don’t GET IT. Oh, Teresa says mean things about me, oh, Teresa digs up people from my past, OOOHHH Teresa put my wife down, Teresa didn’t give me camera time, Teresa didn’t name drop me enough when she was on the first 2 seasons, she didn’t film entirely with me to ensure that I was always appearing on the show, right next to her, through the table flip & everything. Pardon my French, but what the F–K are these people smoking?!

    My birthday is one or two days before Teresa’s although I am 28, so there’s an age difference. Maybe I just get it because I’m a Taurus & we are awesome, but what did these people think she would do? They interviewed & met several times with production for a hit reality TV show their relative was on, immediately with a shit attitude towards her. Was she supposed to be all sunshine & kittens about it??? BECAUSE GUESS WHAT D-CKS… SHE WAS. She was playing nice until MeHo & her soldiers drew the line in the sand. They started it, end of story. Anyone with eyeballs can see it, because it’s forever documented on a highly scripted, nationally broadcasted reality TV show!

    How do they not understand what has transpired, or at least how it appears to the conscious viewer? I have lived with my partner for 6 years, we are best friends & work together. I complain about my family all the time when I’m mad, but if he chimes in I shut it the eff down…. unless it’s a certain family member. One who has gone above & beyond to hurt me for no reason other than selfishness. That person, he can rake them over the coals to every set of ears he comes across. Why? Because #1) I do it too & #2) They deserve it.

    GTFOVER it Melissa & Kathy. You said you wanted a slice of the pie, but you selfish, self absorbed, socially awkward, two bit actresses are throwing a fit because you want the whole damn thing.

    • July 12, 2013 at 9:56 PM | #239

      Lol – well I guess you better apologize to whoever you were beefing about to your husband in the privacy of your own home! ;)

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM | #240

      Lol. Funny post. I yell at my screen, as well. As many do. You aren’t alone :-)

  35. July 12, 2013 at 9:18 PM | #241

    By the way, after this episode is aired I hope vitriol towards Melissa and Joey goes crazy for days on end. I’m going to keep at it. I’m working on it. #JoGo gonad gobbler ??????
    SloJo blows Joe?????? SloJo goes in low for fellatio????? Juicy’s nibbled nuts????

    • July 12, 2013 at 9:26 PM | #242

      Oh my Lord gessie. Josephine and Melissa’s spinoff should be titled, “Juicy’s nibbled nuts”. Thank you for all the laughs you gave me the last few days.

      • Confused
        July 13, 2013 at 11:21 AM | #243

        “Juicy’s Nibbled Nuts” sounds like a recipe book in the making.

  36. Have2Say
    July 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM | #244

    Did anyone else notice the facial expression on Joey after the caption of Melissa’s comments of Teresa’s marriage?

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM | #245

      I sure did. Rosie’s were the best on the bus, tho.

  37. July 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM | #246

    Just watched the first look for Sunday’s episode. Really, TSIL? You don’t know anymore what’s going on in her home than she does yours. Shut up!!!!

    You know what? I’m convinced now more than ever that these 2 dipshits really believe that these sites against them were fabricated by Teresa. What morons! What proof do they have that Teresa’s putting bad things out there about them?

  38. Leigh
    July 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM | #247

    My heart just breaks for T in this clip. Not sure how she or Joe Gu or her Mom & Dad can ever forgive the slut and I don’t even know what to call the little man. If he was my brother I would lie to my parents and say its all good. But really I would never ever talk to him again. Ever there is nothing he or his piece of sh*t wife could say to make it wright. crossed way to many lines.

    • July 12, 2013 at 11:30 PM | #248

      Teresa never said an unkind thing about either Melissa or JoeyBlo during the early seasons. . Bravo left the Famewhorgas on the cutting room floor because they were not interesting enough to make the cut. Once they wormed their way onto the show, Teresa still didn’t paint them unkindly because she wanted to save their parents the pain, embarrassment and humiliation of their son’s behavior. Teresa was hamstrung because she is about family first, blood is blood and respect! Teresa’s no actress and her pain is real and to see it breaks anyone’s heart that has ever had to deal with a sibling like JoeyBlo.

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 6:57 PM | #249

      If he were my brother I’d kick the crap out of him, before cutting ties with him. I agree, I don’t think I would give my parents details, at all, but I would tell them that I refuse to be disrespected by my own flesh and blood.

  39. Calypso
    July 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM | #250

    So Kathy’s coming out with a cookbook – no wonder she’s trying to nice and kind of defending Teresa. I knew there was a catch. #users

    • Calypso
      July 12, 2013 at 10:36 PM | #251

      correction – **be** nice

  40. Jeannie5233
    July 12, 2013 at 10:16 PM | #252

    That scene in the bus where we hear Melissa whispering in Josephine’s ear – bashing Joe saying how he doesn’t love Teresa, cheats on her, is an asshole, and doesn’t give a fu*k what she does.

    Teresa has said Melissa chirps in Josephine’s ear – now we have heard it for ourselves. So, Melissa – you accuse Teresa of mindfu*king with your husband against you – well, like I said in an earlier post, you are the master!!!!!!

  41. Rachel
    July 12, 2013 at 10:16 PM | #253

    I guess Tre isnt the only Gorga that likes the taste of Juicy’s meatballs :)

    • Rachel
      July 12, 2013 at 10:18 PM | #254

      BTW biting Juicy’s nuts was prolly Fredo’s dream come true. I know that all men would prolly think twice before doing that but the position comes naturally to him lol

  42. Calypso
    July 12, 2013 at 10:18 PM | #255

    I was rummaging through Josephine’s Twitter TL today and found this from 12/19/12 the day of Melissa’s book deal.

    Joe Gorga ‏@joegorga 19 Dec
    Its going to be fun building our empire! #secretRT @BrandonBelmont1: @joegorga great meeting you today, you are a great guy. Gonna be fun.

    Building their empire???? Melissa’s songs, sex book and work out dvd – oh please you owe more than you’ll make off these.

    • July 14, 2013 at 12:40 AM | #256

      I wonder what the terms of the contract are? She was supposedly given a $300,000 advance – what happens if she doesn’t sell that many books?

  43. Meri
    July 12, 2013 at 10:29 PM | #257

    There once was a midget in Jersey,
    who was feeling very unworthy.
    So he traveled to Lookers,
    in search of a hooker,
    And was fooled into lust,
    by a gold digging huss,
    who went by the name of Missy.

    Now Missy was yearning for fame,
    who Stumpy’s sister she had to blame.
    So they jumped on the train,
    We call famewhoring by name.
    And were gleeful to lie,
    for the pie in the sky!

    Life for the unscrupulous couple,
    was paradise in a tv bubble,
    as production was created by Kat.
    But Teresa proved that she was all that!
    So when she was fired,
    Stumpy and Missy grew tired.

    Well, Juicy and Rosie were getting along,
    While Missy’s auto-tuned ridiculous song,
    Couldn’t get on the charts.
    And that only darkened their black hearts!
    So they all went away,
    to mountains to play.

    Stumpy and Missy had a plan up their sleeve,
    To show Bravo they’d never leave.
    The midget rushed Juicy in hopes that he’d fall,
    But was sent flying into the wall.
    Who would guess that Stumpy liked nuts?
    And most likely other men’s butts!
    So they screamed and they cried,
    Can’t we have Juicy’s balls fried?
    And that was the end of their fame!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM | #258

      Meri!!!!! Thoroughly enjoyed this – brilliant!!!!! :)

      • July 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM | #259

        so sad that there seem to b so many ppl insane jealous over Melissa .ba ha ha kind of sick really !!

        • July 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM | #260

          Dee, what is there to be jealous of?

        • Calypso
          July 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM | #261

          Hey D – Go Scratch!

        • Jeannie5233
          July 13, 2013 at 6:13 AM | #262

          I need a fly swatter. . .

        • Jessie
          July 13, 2013 at 6:46 AM | #263

          She does have a nice body, but heaven knows what kind of STD it has……

        • Anonymous
          July 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM | #264

          Either you cannot read or you just hard headed, Most of your post are about people insanely jealous over Melissa, no honey I am not jealous over her putting her small child out there masturbating, I think that is sorry, I am not jealous over her riding around town with her children not being buckled up, that is bad parenting, I am not jealous of her working in a strip joint, that is morally wrong. I am not jealous over her neglect when it comes to her children safety. I am not jealous of her outside a bar on her knees giving her ex a blowjob, that is trashy. Get real Dee, this woman should be living in a trailor park, I bet the sinks would be more durable then whats in their house. That house was build cheaply for show, just as Melissa. Melissa has no class at all. She is an embarrassment to the Gorga family just as her husband. It is with regret that he did not take after his sister. Teresa on the other hand is honest, hard working, super mom, beautiful, smart. She is getting to be quite a strong woman on the show and is handling herself better and better. But as long as you continue to post the same thing, I will also.

        • July 13, 2013 at 4:00 PM | #265

          Melissa Gorga’s got nothing on me, honey.

      • Calypso
        July 13, 2013 at 12:04 AM | #266

        Fabulous – I love it Meri ;)

    • July 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM | #267

      That was fantastic! :-bd :-bd :-bd

    • July 12, 2013 at 11:35 PM | #268

      OMG that was hilarious!

    • July 12, 2013 at 11:35 PM | #269

      I’m clapping at your talent!

      • Iris
        July 13, 2013 at 3:37 AM | #270

        Go Merri! :-) Also, I thought Dee didn’t want to be a part of this forum anymore? What happened? Got all sad and lonely at the other blogs??

    • Cee_See
      July 13, 2013 at 4:33 AM | #271

      That was great Poet Meri! I loved it!

    • corky21
      July 13, 2013 at 8:12 AM | #272

      very, very funny. such a talent. Now can we get someone to put this to music? I think it will go to number one on youtube!

      • July 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM | #273

        This is great! Please send it to Andy, Bravo!

    • LifeIsGood
      July 13, 2013 at 8:15 AM | #274

      Love It!!!!!!!

    • July 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM | #275

      Love, love, love it. What a lovely little ditty.

    • Confused
      July 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM | #276

      Priceless!

    • Confused
      July 13, 2013 at 11:27 AM | #277

      I’m officially crowning you our Poet Lauriate

    • Nancy (nsr1076)
      July 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM | #278

      Love,love,love it.

    • July 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM | #279

      You peeps are so creative I love it lol

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 7:00 PM | #280

      Amazing! Fame please post this in a tag line…

      • Laram
        July 13, 2013 at 7:00 PM | #281

        Headline, I mean.

    • love4peace
      July 14, 2013 at 2:39 AM | #283

      love this

  44. GonadGobbler
    July 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM | #284

    Okay, I know this is immature, but I made a twitter account (follow me!) @nadgobblergorga and I tweeted Kathy, Melissa, and Joe, some slightly rude things but nothing too bad, and I was suspended IMMEDIATELY!!! i’m positive one of them reported me. I am sad I am suspended!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 12, 2013 at 10:37 PM | #285

      GG: Now that almost makes me want to join Twitter!!! LOL!!! Just to be sure – your handle is @nadgobblergorga?

    • July 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM | #286

      I can’t follow you I guess as you’re suspended. I will try again tomorrow.

      • GonadGobbler
        July 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM | #287

        yeah I am suspended!! I think I displeased Melissa

        • July 13, 2013 at 12:03 AM | #288

          Hey GonadGobbler, I hope you get out of twitter jail soon! WordPress keeps putting your comments in the moderation queue. Maybe if you provide an e-mail address – it doesn’t have to be real – it will let your comments after that go through.

          • GonadGobbler
            July 13, 2013 at 12:52 AM | #289

            Thanks for the advice!

            • July 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM | #290

              Hey GonadGobbler, I was offline when you registered so your first comment with the e-mail address was stuck in moderation until I cleared it this morning. Your comments should go through now, I hope.

    • July 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM | #291

      Conincydink or not — you get blocked and suspended and our resident troll Dee shows up? I think not. The Marco’s are not liking the editing.

      • Calypso
        July 13, 2013 at 12:11 AM | #292

        Not – it confirms it for me! Great work flushing them out GonadGobbler!

    • July 13, 2013 at 8:16 AM | #293

      I wonder why. This is not good. I was planning a full frontal assault after the show aired.

    • Kimmers
      July 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM | #294

      Don’t feel to bad Jac a Wac had me suspended to after she followed me long enough to DM me. Wait a few days and you can get back on.

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 7:23 PM | #295

      Sooo funny!

  45. GonadGobbler
    July 12, 2013 at 10:46 PM | #296

    Yes, @NadGobblerGorga– enjoy! I’m so excited for Melissa’s sisters to go wild this Sunday when I write some sassy things. By the way I’ve been suspended and unsuspended four times already, I think I am annoying some people.

    • AnnieMarie
      July 13, 2013 at 1:25 AM | #297

      I went looking for you, but it only shows the picture and the name. No tweets, nothing. When you get suspended do they remove your tweets too?

    • Sackem
      July 13, 2013 at 1:33 AM | #298

      Oh my, seriously, tears streaming down my face!

    • July 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM | #299

      I found you but can’t follow since you’re suspended, dang it!!! Hilarious!

  46. JUST ME P
    July 12, 2013 at 10:47 PM | #300

    THE SCENE WHERE ANTONIA PUTS THE BIBLE IN THE SUIT CASE IS SO STAGED! I WONDER HOW MANY TIMES MELISSA HAD HER PRACTICE DOING IT… ..THE MINUTE I SAW IT I KNEW IT WAS FAKE, HARDLY LOOKS USED, SHE BOUGHT IT FOR THE SHOW, I KNOW IT IS NOT USED, TAKE A LOOK AT MINE AND ANY ONE ELSE WHO GOES TO
    SUNDAY SCHOOL AND TO CHURCH, THOSE PAGES GET WELL WORN FAST.

    • GonadGobbler
      July 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM | #301

      I thought the exact same thing, haha… Who has a huge picture of Jesus lying around? Usually it’s on the wall or put away somewhere safe…

  47. July 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM | #302

    A big WELCOME to all new posters and a big HUG to all regular posters. A wonderful day at sea!

    Bedtime for me, hoping to read all new comments tomorrow.

    Thank you Fame for this site!

  48. GonadGobbler
    July 12, 2013 at 11:46 PM | #303

    Melissa blocked me!!! so sad!!!!!! that was fast, geeze.

    • Sackem
      July 13, 2013 at 1:31 AM | #304

      BwahahahahahhahahhHabhahahahAhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * Tears*

    • MissV
      July 13, 2013 at 4:41 AM | #305

      She is a jealous evil beatch! Ha Ha Ha!

    • embee
      July 13, 2013 at 6:57 AM | #306

      Your twitter TL is hilarious! I took a look at it last night. Sorry to see you’re suspended again this morning. Definitely hitting a nerve.

  49. yeah, ok
    July 13, 2013 at 12:28 AM | #307

    Joey Gorga looks aged , I this pic. He looks wayyy stressed.

  50. July 13, 2013 at 12:55 AM | #308

    Okay, I have finally registered. I can’t believe how fast Melissa blocked me… I should have been a bit gentler, I guess. She followed my last twitter handle because I complimented her once. lol.

    • July 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM | #309

      Ha! Ha! I saw that you were in twitter jail. I don’t think that is fair. You should come down to one of our first Amendment zones that our brilliant politicians have set up here in Miami for the Zimmerman verdict. I bet you could speak your mind, there about Joey Gorga. Me, I’m gonna stay home so nobody can bust a cap in my ass, so to speak.

  51. MissV
    July 13, 2013 at 4:36 AM | #310

    I am sick of Messy Melissa Hurting Her own Husband and His Family for her Jealousy and FameWhoring! Cannot wait to hear and see the truth about Messy Melissa!

  52. Alexus
    July 13, 2013 at 5:42 AM | #311

    Melissa Marco/ gorga whatever, is a joke, I literally cringe when she starts talking to the cameras in her little interview booth. I can’t believe what I am seeing here: she is so evil in her ways! She lies constantly, she’s very good at manipulating people around her, she’s a horrible shit talker, she has a personality disorder, she’s a very jealous person and just plain evil. But poor melissa gorga ( she’s probably the one who smells like FISH) she is so innocent and such a victim. All u have to do is look right at her eyes and u can see how nasty and dishonest she is. Her and her husband want to play fucken victim! Melissa sweetie, get off reality tv, people see how transparent u are no one is buying what your selling, blame teresa for your teenage lesbian affair that surfaced right? Or the fact that u screwed around so much ? Or that u were a stripper or that u did indeed cheat on your husband with your ex and gave him a bj. People don’t like u, they can’t stand your fame whoring, lying, manipulative, cheating ass anymore, even your very close friend jan checked out, what does that say about YOU!!!

    • July 13, 2013 at 4:05 PM | #312

      You left out the shoplifting warrant that up until just recently was still outstanding.

    • Jeannie5233
      July 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM | #313

      Hey Alexus – great post!!

  53. Debbie J
    July 13, 2013 at 12:14 PM | #314

    Don’t know if this is true or not but the stir just reported that Joey is going to be writing a book as well. It would appear that on his twitter someone said he should write a book and responded that it is coming soon. Any ideas on what the title of this little man’s book should be? Since Melissa reads this blog site I’m sure he could use the help…lol

    • July 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM | #315

      I think a tweet was taken out of context! Josephine is so Stoopid that he prolly thought the tweeter was asking Melissa’s “book ( of lies)” is coming out..

      • July 13, 2013 at 10:58 PM | #316

        Miss Fabulous, you have the greatest avatar ever.

    • Nancy (nsr1076)
      July 13, 2013 at 3:14 PM | #317

      Well I hope its not a “How to Fight with Ballbiter Gorga” cause you know the poor souls that would buy it would only get their asses whooped all the time andlearn how to ball bite.

  54. July 13, 2013 at 12:37 PM | #318

    Those damn lips Josephine!

  55. Jeannie5233
    July 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM | #319

    Okay – so now Underdog enters the picture and teases what her involvement will be when she is called to save the day at the Retreat:

    “Caroline Manzo Dishes About Explosive Joe Gorga and Joe Giudice Fight on ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ Season 5 [EXCLUSIVE]

    By Amber James | Jul 13, 2013 08:48 AM EDT

    The feud between Joe Gorga and Teresa Giudice gets physical on Sunday night’s episode of The Real Housewives of New Jersey.

    As the cast heads off on a healing retreat to Lake George, the family squabble escalates into a physical fight between Teresa’s husband, Joe Giudice, and her brother, Joe Gorga.

    Fellow cast mate, Caroline Manzo dished about the brawl, telling EnStars, “It was difficult to watch.”

    “I’ve seen the episode already, and I can’t imagine that any of them are going to watch this week and feel good about what they’re looking at,” Manzo told Enstars at Mohegan Sun’s Hot Summer Fun Reality Check.

    “As far as my involvement goes, I’m going to be quiet for now,” she teased.

    Manzo did admit that being around the fighting in-laws is exhausting.

    “When you are in the thick of it, it is a tough place to be,” the RHONJ star said. “It’s just sad.”

    In the preview for the July 14th episode, Teresa tries to patch things up with her brother and his wife, Melissa Gorga. Teresa urges her brother to put family first.”

    The rest of the article can be read here but it is pretty much a retread of what we all know already:

    http://www.enstarz.com/articles/21477/20130713/joe-gorga-joe-giudice-fight-lake-george-video-caroline-manzo-teresa-giudice-melissa-gorga.htm

  56. Jeannie5233
    July 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM | #320

    This is what I mean about how after reading the blogs and watching the airings of the episodes the castmembers will, once again, have ammunition and use them as an excuse to paint Teresa as “the villian”. Kathy Wakile is saying Teresa is kicking a hornet’s nest with her blogs – Is she for real??? This is what she said in an excerpt from an posted on E!:

    “The Real Housewives of New Jersey’s Kathy Wakile: “Teresa Guidice Is Kicking the Hornet’s Nest!”
    by Tierney Bricker Tue., Jun. 25, 2013 2:00 PM PDT

    “. . .Kathy exclusively told E! News that relations between the Guidice and Wakile clans, as well as Melissa Gorga’s family, are stable, but stressed that Teresa should tread lightly when it comes to writing about this season’s shenanigans…

    “It took a lot of work, but Teresa and I are finally in a comfortable place,” Kathy, who just became the newest member of the Wines By Wives club, told us. “We’re speaking. We can have a nice conversation.”

    And though sister-in-laws Teresa and Melissa have had some pretty epic battles on RHONJ, Kathy says the ladies seem to have squashed the tension between them. “From what I understand, things are much better, yes,” Kathy spilled.

    But the truce between Teresa and Kathy could be a fleeting one if Teresa’s blog posts for Bravo continue to point the finger at her for all the drama currently going down in the episodes, which were filmed five months ago.

    “It’s hard watching the episodes now because we’re not in that place anymore,” Kathy admitted. “So what she keeps putting in her blog is very strange to me. When I read some of the things she’s writing, all I can say is, she’s really kicking the hornet’s nest.”

    However, it seems as though Kathy really is ready to end the drama wih Teresa for good, telling us, “I know I don’t want to go back to that dark place. I just hope she feels the same.”. . .”

    http://www.eonline.com/news/433666/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-s-kathy-wakile-teresa-guidice-is-kicking-the-hornet-s-nest

    • July 13, 2013 at 3:20 PM | #321

      I saw this when it originally posted and just was SMH. Melissa is kicking up the hornet’s nest, not Tre. Do I think they are in a good place — no, cordial maybe but not a good place. When is the last picture you saw of them together as a family?

    • July 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM | #322

      Hey, Kathy! F*** You.

    • July 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM | #324

      How is posting recipes kicking hornets nets? Is she talking about Missy??

    • July 13, 2013 at 10:15 PM | #325

      I think she HAD to be talking about Hooker and the idiot reporter got it wrong or turned it around.

  57. July 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM | #326

    Hi guys I had to make a new account. It’s @gonadgobbler now.

  58. July 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM | #331

    Geeze do these people sit on twitter all day? I followed Lysa Simpson and she blocked me already!

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 7:37 PM | #332

      I play with twitter, and haven’t put up a pic bc I forgot my password. Lol. You have inspired me to get on it, an add to your following.

  59. July 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM | #333

    Dear Gonad Gobbler, try following Faux Entertainment Reality, The Real Ileana angel, they will probably give you a lot if retweets. Anybody else know who to suggest?

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 7:34 PM | #334

      Heather MacLean. I love illanea angel!

    • July 13, 2013 at 10:20 PM | #336

      I’ve been blocked by Faux Entertainment Reality and have no clue why. I don’t even Tweet.

  60. July 13, 2013 at 4:15 PM | #337

    Damn it! I can’t find you Gonad gobbler!!

  61. July 13, 2013 at 4:23 PM | #339

    I found you and I signed up just to follow you. You only have one other follower besides me! C’mon people. Wait, I have to go back and bookmark it. Will the people at work be able to tell who I am following? This is a University supplied device. Do I have to use my real e-mail address.? I know you guys can’t believe how stupid I am.

    • Sackem
      July 13, 2013 at 4:37 PM | #340

      Cut and paste a link?

    • July 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM | #341

      You need a working e-mail address, I created a hotmail for twitter etc. If you are on the company network, they might monitor to see if you are accessing it, but can’t see content. Just don’t accept follows from people who you don’t want to see your TL.

  62. Kara1975
    July 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM | #342

    I have been on this site off and on for a year or so now and have never commented but I can’t take it anymore. Everyone on that show but Tre and Joe make me freaking sick! They all are so damn fake and need to get a clue. I know Skankomatic and Big Boy Pussy are so jealous of Joe and Tre they can’t see straight. So of course they have to try to make them look bad every chance they get. Family should not be that way no matter what is going on or personal feelings. I also know that there is no way The Skank loves Pussy or she would suck up her feelings no matter what and make nice. I have been with my hubby for almost 12 years and his family drives me crazy and has tried for years to tear us apart and I grin and kill the assholes with kindness because hello that is his family and ALWAYS will be but then again my hubby is also a real grown ass man who wouldn’t want me to to be a bitch to his family and he also wouldn’t be shy about saying so.

    • July 13, 2013 at 6:26 PM | #343

      Welcome Kara — post more!

    • Laram
      July 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM | #344

      Welcome!

    • Jeannie5233
      July 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM | #345

      Hello Kara! Love that you decided to comment!!

    • Kara1975
      July 14, 2013 at 5:04 AM | #346

      Ty guys! I won’t be so shy now lol

  63. Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
    July 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM | #347

    I know this comment doesn’t belong on this particular article – but I’m watching the episode right now that begins with Joey going home from the gym ranting and raving, and Melissa is in the bedroom typing her manuscript (or an email to her lover, who knows) on the laptop.

    Anyway, I notice things like fake shots and staged spontaneity…and I thought it was interesting how, when Melissa puts the laptop under the bed and sits up, her hair is just barely wavy. But two seconds later, her hair is full of springy curls.

    Just how much time passed between saying hello to your husband with loose waves and asking him why he was upset with Shirley Temple curls?

    Just had to say it to someone besides my cat here in the office.

    • July 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM | #348

      Excellent catch, Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller! I captured some screen shots and added this to the article with the e-mail from a source that knows the Gorgas and Giudices:

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/melissa-gorga-received-300000-advance-for-her-advice-book-on-marriage-plus-other-inside-info/

      “So your readers understand, the show is scripted to a point. Conversations are cut up as well. Here is an example: When Joe said he would start calling Melissa out on her behavior, that is not what Joe originally said. I know for a fact because someone who I speak to often was there.”

      Note from Fame: In the scene where Joe calls out Melissa on her behavior, Melissa’s hair is not as curly when she’s sitting on the bed typing on her laptop before Joe comes in to the room – when Joe enters the room and she hands the stack of clothes to Antonia as an excuse to get her out of the room so that Joe can call her out on the tweet about Teresa being the bankrupt one, it is curlier – so there was an obvious break in taping before they continued with the staged scene (a long enough break for Melissa to curl her hair).

      I also added it to this article:

      Season 5 Episode 5: Joe Gorga Says His Parents “Look at Melissa Like She’s the Devil” (Production Error Proves the Scene was Staged)

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/07/06/season-5-episode-5-joe-gorga-says-his-parents-look-at-melissa-like-shes-the-devil/

      • Longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller
        July 26, 2013 at 9:00 PM | #349

        Just saw that! Cool! At 40 seconds per curl minimum, that’s a hefty break.

  64. July 14, 2013 at 2:19 AM | #350

    omg I just came back and read all your comments. I love you guys! You are all ridiculous and I adore it!!!

  65. July 16, 2013 at 1:02 AM | #351

    Just thought I’d point out that Ms.Rusty Pennies (I’m sorry, goldcoins) shares the same year of birth, 79, as Melissa. Also, Meddling Messy mentioned recently that one of her lofty aspirations is to work in Hollywood. For someone who has a degree in Psychology (one of an ever growing list), you’d think she’d realize her delusions are showing. P.S. Meho, it isn’t slander if it’s true (or an opinion), and you’d have to suffer loss of reputation or income as result of something untrue that was said about you. This is a site for people to enjoy laughing about your ridiculous lies (oops, meant life), and besides dear, you’ve made yourself a public spectacle and must expect ridicule as part of the package.

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