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Johnny “The Greek” Karagiorgis Was Setup: The Fight at the Grand Opening of Posche 2 “Was an Obvious Premeditated Confrontation by Production and Cast”

April 12, 2013

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Pictured above is Jacqueline Laurita as she testified in municipal court on April 12, 2013, describing the alleged attack by John Karagiorgis at the grand opening of Posche 2.

Seize the video tape (made without a filming permit) and it will simply be that tale of the tape, because all of them were miked. Then maybe we have perjury and slander charges.

A source told Fame-Whorgas that Johnny “The Greek” Karagiorgis (JTG) never said anything about the Laurita family nor did he provoke the fight at the grand opening of Posche 2. The source described the events as follows:

Before the events of March 30, 2013, Joe Gorga and Rich Wakile came by JTG’s place of business to settle their differences, and they all agreed to “cut the sh-t”. Joe Gorga said, “I want us all to get along.” Believing that they had quashed things, JTG never suspected he was walking into a setup by Bravo and the cast at the grand opening of Posche 2.

“It was an obvious premeditated assault by production and cast.” Producers held people in queue, choosing who could enter with whom and when. The official Housewives and their families went in first, Penny and her friends were brought in later, and more than an hour after that the producers allowed JTG and a family friend, Mario Petris, to enter the salon. Mario (@MarioPetris) and his girlfriend (who entered with Penny) both also attended the Milania Hair Care launch party with Penny on February 18, 2013 (JTG did not attend that event).

The confrontation occurred minutes after JTG (who was mic’d) and Mario entered the salon, and it was obvious when they entered that something was about to go down. People moved couches, Chris had unbuttoned his jacket, and Joe Gorga had rolled up his cuffs. “It was a setup by Bravo”: Joe and Chris and the other cast members and their spouses were in on it.

Joe Gorga was the first to confront JTG, asking him, “Who’s telling you all this info”, and Joe had security get behind JTG and this is when Joe took a shot or lunged at JTG, who tossed Joe off of him and onto the sinks (which is how they got broken). Joe threw the first punch and then Chris charged at JTG, shouting something like, “You made fun of my son”, which is how the rumor started; JTG replied, “I didn’t say sh-t about your son,” and when JTG turned away, Chris took a cheap shot at him and Jacqueline Jac took off her Fendi shoe and and hit him in the forehead with the stiletto-type heel. In self-defense, JTG tossed Chris into the wall. Security tackled JTG, and JTG shouted, “You’re all a bunch of f-cking p-ssies, swinging at people being held.” JTG didn’t get carried out, he walked out, and Bravo security (off duty cops) apologized, saying, “It wasn’t supposed to go down this way.” JTG went immediately to the police station to file a report, where they took pictures of his injuries.

Caroline yelled at Penny after the fight broke out at the grand opening of Posche 2 on March 30, 2013, saying she caused the commotion, and Penny screamed back, “You old hag! I was trying to protect you because I felt sorry for you!”

From the photos, you can see that many other people were at the salon while Bravo was taping.

At least one person at the event taped the fight using a cell phone, but a producer took it from her and deleted the video and pictures.

The producers didn’t have the necessary permits to film at the event, and the salon did not have the proper licenses to open.

The court has subpoenaed Bravo to turn over the footage, unedited; and if it is altered in any way, Bravo will face criminal charges.

Joe Gorga and the Lauritas filed a cross complaint, probably hoping that JTG would agree to drop charges if they did the same.

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Bravo was encouraging a confrontation, probably expecting another Christening scene (season 3, episode 1) where no punches were thrown. But they got more than they wanted. The official Housewives and their husbands were in the salon for almost two hours before Bravo permitted JTG and his family friend to enter. In photos from the event, you can see Jacqueline holding a cocktail while sitting in the salon chair — the cocktail is almost full in one photo and about half empty in the next photo (see photos above).

Jacqueline could face the most serious charges because she used an instrument when she assaulted JTG. The fact that she used a dangerous weapon would bump the crime up from a regular misdemeanor to a felony — she could face a felony conviction on second degree assault with a deadly weapon (aggravated assault). A dangerous instrument need not be a knife or firearm — and if you have intent to use it unlawfully against another person, the elements of assault in the second degree are satisfied. The dangerous instrument standard or definition includes any object that is readily capable of causing death or serious physical injury. That dangerous instrument could be a frying pan, tire iron, bottle, etc… or a stiletto heel.

The case against Joe Gorga and the Lauritas goes to a grand jury on April 18th: the grand jury will decide whether there is enough evidence to warrant a trial. When a prosecutor brings a case to a grand jury, he presents the jurors with a “bill” (the charges) and introduces evidence — usually the minimum necessary — to secure an indictment. The proceedings are secret. It is standard practice to call witnesses to testify against the suspect without the suspect or the suspect’s lawyer present. Indicted suspects can sometimes later obtain transcripts of grand jury proceedings — and this is a big reason why prosecutors like to keep the evidence to the minimum. Grand juries need not be unanimous to indict. If the case proceeds by grand jury indictment, no preliminary hearing need be held.

In JTG’s case against Joe Gorga and the Lauritas, Jacqueline has the most to lose since she is the one who used a weapon when she assaulted him, which would explain why she did most of the testifying at the municipal court on April 12th in her cross complaint against JTG (he was not present). Under New Jersey law, if Jacqueline is found guilty of inflicting serious bodily injury, the assault is a second-degree aggravated assault crime subject to 5 to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $150,000.

Below is Jacqueline’s testimony in her case against John Karagiorgis as reported by NorthJersey.com:

A Paramus man who contends he was attacked by cast members from “The Real Housewives of New Jersey” at an event two weeks ago allegedly lunged at one of the show’s stars and threatened to kill her.

Jacqueline Laurita testified in Ridgewood’s Municipal Court Friday morning that John Karagiorgis came to the event at the Posche II salon “looking for … a fight.”

The probable cause hearing concluded with Judge David Pfund determining that Karagiorgis will be formally charged with three counts each of harassment and assault, and two counts of making terroristic threats. It is the second ruling in a case involving the fracas that broke out the event.

Last week, Pfund ruled there was enough evidence for Laurita, her husband Christopher and Joe Gorga, who is married to “Housewives” star Melissa Gorga to be charged with assault and terroristic threats. Karagiorgis, an employee at Clifton’s Rutt’s Hut, was not present for Friday’s proceeding. He has claimed he was ambushed on March 30 by Laurita, her husband, and Gorga at the event, according to a police complaint. According to Karagiorgis, the show’s security restrained him during the attack, from which he claims he sustained a broken nose, bruises, lumps and head trauma. Karagiorgis’ complaint further claims Jacqueline smacked him in the head with a stiletto heel, and that her husband threatened his life.

On Friday, Jacqueline Laurita testified that Karagiorgis was “asked not to attend” the March 30 event in Ridgewood, “but showed up anyway with a bodyguard,” who she said appeared to be armed. Karagiorgis’ wife, Penny, owns a North Arlington hair salon, La Chateau Allure Salon, and she has made past appearances on the program.

Laurita — represented by her attorney, Michael DeMarco — said that Karagiorgis “came dressed in clothes like he was ready for a fight.” Moments before the altercation:

Laurita said she was part of a “tsunami of people” packed into the boutique for the grand opening. That’s when she claims Karagiorgis “lunged towards me, and I heard him yelling, ‘I’ll [expletive] kill you.”

She said Karagiorgis “had a crazy look in his eyes, like he was on drugs or something,” and, in lunging at her, may have “bumped” her, causing her to fall to the ground.

But she acknowledged before Pfund that, amid all of the confusion, security guards who stepped in to usher Karagiorgis from the event could very well have knocked her over.

I can’t be 100 percent sure he caused me to fall,” Laurita — dressed in a black pants suit and gold and black designer shoes — told Pfund.

Later in her testimony, Laurita claimed that after he was removed from the event, Karagiorgis returned, “looking for more.”

“He went right at me, and had this look on his face that was dazed and crazed,” Laurita alleged, adding she believes Karagiorgis was intent on harming her.

Laurita testified Karagiorgis, using Twitter, has been harassing her and other members of the “Real Housewives of New Jersey” cast, posting malicious and derogatory comments about her, her husband, and the couple’s autistic son.

“Somehow, he was fixated on me and the other cast members, and would show up at events and run his mouth, saying things about me as a mother, telling me to stay off social media,” Laurita said.

She claims Karagiorgis has made other “sick comments” on social media, suggesting her son was not actually autistic, “and that we’re faking it for attention.”

She said she is afraid of Karagiorgis, “because I am not sure what he’s capable of.”

Laurita’s husband, Chris, and Gorga, also testified, both claiming that Karagiorgis had lunged at them and threatened their lives. They told Pfund they were forced to defend themselves and their wives during the fracas, and both claim Karagiorgis has been using Twitter to harass and slander them.

“He’s obsessed with us, and he’s stalked us for years,” Gorga said. “I get phone calls at night. It’s to the point where my wife has gotten depressed over it. This guy needs to be prosecuted. This is cyber bullying.”

Christopher Laurita, dressed in a pinstripe jacket and jeans, told the judge he feels Karagiorgis is hungry for publicity.


John Karagiorgis of Rutt’s Hutt, Clifton, NJ – Home of the Ripper – gives the Munch crew a little friendly Jersey attitude. The Munchers visited eight of the state’s best-known hot dog joints [Source]. Rutt’s Hut has been featured on the PBS special “A Hot Dog Program”, numerous Food Network shows, and the Travel Channel’s “Deep-Fried Paradise.”

Karagiorgis joked on Twitter the day after the Milania Hair Care launch party, and some bloggers and tweeters interpreted his tweets to mean that Mario was Penny’s bodyguard, which would explain why Jacqueline Laurita testified that JTG came with a bodyguard — she was implying he was expecting trouble. If JTG returned to the event (as Jacqueline testified), it was probably to pick up his wife, Penny Drossos, not because he was “looking for more.”

I have never seen JTG tweet about any of the other cast members and their families, only Melissa Gorga and perhaps her sisters. Jacqueline is lying about JTG when she says he used social media to suggest her son is not really autistic and that they are faking it for attention. People have commented on various blogs about Nicholas’ diagnosis and FW has done several stories about them exploiting autism to promote their products, but I have never seen John Karagiorgis tweet or give an interview on anything about the Lauritas.

A source told Fame-Whorgas that Caroline and Jacqueline called Penny from the cast trip to Arizona on March 16 -18, 2013, telling her that she was the major topic of conversation, so that would imply Jacqueline had no issues with Penny and, by association, her husband — these accusations out of the blue about JTG “saying things about her as a mother, telling her to stay off social media”; “posting malicious and derogatory comments about her, her husband, and the couple’s autistic son”; and “making other sick comments on social media, suggesting her son was not actually autistic, that they’re faking it for attention” are made up as a defense for her assault on him.

Chris and Jacqueline are grasping at straws in their cross complaint: they testified that JTG “came dressed in clothes like he was ready for a fight” and that he “had this look on his face that was dazed and crazed.” And based on what my source told me, Chris is delusional and desperate for testifying that they were “forced to defend themselves and their wives during the fracas” – he is lying, just like he and Jacqueline lied that JTG tweeted that their son is not actually autistic.

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  1. G85
    April 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM | #1

    WOW. I always read but never comment. What garbage this is turning out to be. Her face looks so distorted its sickening. Enough with these disgusting whores. Jaqueline and Melissa especially. GARBAGE

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM | #2

      Seriously that face is so bloated and distorted I just can’t imagine how Jax has morphed into this hideous creature. She has entered Michael Jackson territory.

      • AussieFan
        April 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM | #3

        Face like a smacked ass….

      • Steph
        April 13, 2013 at 12:48 AM | #4

        I’m not even a wacko Jacko fan but you should be ashamed of your self for even saying that abut someone. Carmas a bitch.

        • JennyS
          April 13, 2013 at 2:30 AM | #5

          Who should be ashamed? Are you talking about a comment made here or about what Johnny the Greek allegedly said?

          • Anonymous
            April 13, 2013 at 5:22 AM | #6

            She should listen to herself!! Roll the tape Fame!! I think carma has her address! : )

        • April 13, 2013 at 8:13 AM | #7

          Karma is a bitch and she is at Jac’s doorstep now.

        • Aint Pittypat
          April 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM | #8

          Well to begin , it’s spelled KARMA! I am usually not the spelling patrol but since you are a self appointed chastise patrol we are on equal footing. Defending Jax? Now that’s a thankless task indeed!

          • Anonymous
            April 13, 2013 at 10:45 AM | #9

            Who is that for? Wasn’t defending Jax?? Sorry!! K -A -R -M -A !!! WOW SOMEONE ROLLED OUT SIDEWAYS!! Check your cornflakes,think someone might of pissed in them! :()

            • Aint Pittypat
              April 13, 2013 at 11:28 AM | #10

              Meant for Steph, my apologies was hoping it would show up underneath hers. It was not meant for you and I will exercise more caution in future and make sure mt comment is directed at a specific poster, again by very sincere apologies!

        • Klown Kardashian
          April 15, 2013 at 1:52 PM | #11

          I guess Aussie & Aint will be perfectly fine since “CARMA” wont find them. Thank God it is not Karma coming for ya!

    • Steph
      April 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM | #12

      I gotta tell you I am a Tre Fan but this is total crap!!! Bravo is setting these people up to take a big fall. Someone has said something to wacko jacko and Chris for all this to go down. If someone told me that JTG said that about my child I would have done the same thing and he would also wake up with his balls in his mouth!!! I’m not saying he did say it but someone (BRaVO) said something. Bravo does not care who goes to jail or who lives they wreck. it’s all about the money. I hope in the end the court fines that they were at fault and makes Bravo pay and these families can put there lifes back together!!!!

      • Bullie
        April 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM | #13

        Adults are adults & given adult privileges because they are supposed to be more responsible through life experience & intelligence. As much as we might be upset with someone, we don’t get to beat the shit out of them when they upset us because that is against the law. Unless you had a loved one murdered & came across the murderer bragging or something on that order, most responsible, reasonable, normal adults would not even think to resort to violence. Saying someone’s child is probably not autistic or saying someone is using their autistic child for exploitation purposes is nowhere near beat-worthy-insult territory. It’s clear that these subhumans are either a.) unintelligent b.) unreasonable c.) entitled d.) operating under a false sense of reality or e.) all of the above. I’m going with “e”.

        It’s KARMA by the way, not Carma. And yes, Karma is a bitch which is why both JTG & the moronic NJ Housewives cast are going through this experience. They all seem to be awful people based on how we have seen them behave & none of them sans Teresa & her children deserve an ounce of sympathy. Save the pity party for when the season starts & we actually see some footage wherein we can determine better the reality of the situation.

      • Anonymous
        April 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM | #14

        I hate to disagree with you Steph. First of all Jacqueline is a self-proclaimed Autism advocate. Behaving above the fray comes with the territory of not only an advocate, but also of the parent or relative of someone with a disability. Most of the advocates and parents of children with challenges try to educate those that they can. Resorting to violence never teaches a resolution to a problem.

        This whole scene only goes to help prove the point that Jax is not an advocate and she really is using him for fame. If she was serious about her alleged goals, why in the world would she put herself in this situation?

        • Anonymous
          April 13, 2013 at 10:08 AM | #15

          I meant ADVOCATE – not activist

          Note from Fame: I fixed it for you!

        • Jacquie
          April 14, 2013 at 4:20 AM | #16

          Autism is not a disease, it makes learning a challenge. As an educator of these amazingly fun people it makes me so angry to see the Lauritas behave like this is a death sentence, they are not embracing this new way to look at life. To get angry at someone making a statement about their son leads one to question the genuine behaviour of these parents. I dont feel sorry for jac and chris, no one wants this for their chidren but autism teaches everyone how to look at the wordl thru wavy glasses, my students sure have taught me that life mis what you make it ,so I make thrse moments the best and know that at the end of everyday I will go home having had learned the true joys of working with my lovelies, the call me dovie . When i was ill they were worried about me so i would call them at home. The cards and visits have really helped my healing. When the principal toldthe kids what was wrong they had to research the disease and the cure i love that. Jac and chris should not be so defenssive about their son, Ido wish she would stop withthe bs tweets.

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM | #17

        I have a loved one on the spectrum and unfortunately people can be tactless. Family members can say very insensitive things that hurt your feelings and make your heart ache for your child. Until you have really walked in those shoes your opinion about what you would do doesn’t matter a whit to me. You. Don’t. Know. In my experience it is better to hold your head high and walk away dignity and class intact. Ignorance abounds and when you engage both parties look foolish and stupid. I always keep on mind that a few well chosen words spoken in curt tones and a rapid departure makes more of an impact. It does not happen to just poor old Jaques . I would think a self appointed advocate would have chosen this opportunity to , as we urge out kids, use her words. Wouldn’t it have been a fabulous moment to respond with grace and perhaps explain to the assembled crowd that this kind of treatment is what autistic parents face everyday. Instead Jax used a deadly weapon to strike a man. This leads me to believe JTG said nothing and this was indeed a set up preconceived nasty bully beatdown. So much for modeling good behavior. Advocating for autism does not look like this. Instead it taints us all. So please shut it.

        • Confused
          April 13, 2013 at 10:59 AM | #18

          I agree Pittypat. My nephew has been diagnosed with ASD as well. I have spent many hours on the phone with my sister, listening to her heartbreak as they work through things as a family. It takes courage, strength and a great support system to deal with things. I have never heard my sister EVER say that she wanted to use violence. In fact I can’t see anyone in the autism community supporting her behavior, and that includes Parenting magazine (or is it Parents).

          • Aint Pittypat
            April 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM | #19

            ITA have done the same and God bless you for being there for your sister. Your comment made.so many salient points. This is 24/7 for families and often tears them apart. I hope we can all learn a valuable lesson and genuinely be present for them and surround them with love, caring, a sympathetic heart and patience to always listen . I am clearly not a Jax fan because she brings nothing new to the table . I am not ashamed of our little one but truly believe he is our greatest blessing and gift. We learn from him and he is such a wonder and a joy. We celebrate who he is and every achievement. We should all celebrate children with differences and learn acceptance .

      • jus me for now
        April 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM | #20

        jtg said nothin about any child ,but this is called scripting from BRAVO ms andy they were told to do this and jtg new nothin about it and now those 3 are in big trouble for hurting him.we learn in kindergarten not to place your hands on ANYONE,.

      • SunnyAZ_1
        April 13, 2013 at 7:43 PM | #21

        Steph,

        Sorry but Jac herself has said you have to take the good with the bad when you come on a show like this. If JTG said that about her son it’s his prerogative. As the saying goes, “an opinion is just like an a**hole, everybody has one. To me, Jacqueline is the last one to cry wolf about someone talking about her family. She’s done quiet enough dishing out of her own “opinion” and this website alone has an abundance of proof, along with her twitter account.

        • SunnyAZ_1
          April 13, 2013 at 7:51 PM | #22

          But, I in no way condone anyone talking negatively about someone else child/children. And Pittypat, ITA with what you commented. Maybe now Jaque knows how Teresa felt when she saw the video of Jaque mocking her daughter by reading her a behavior book while she was obviously having a meltdown. Karma always comes back to you in some way – shape or form.

    • April 13, 2013 at 12:38 PM | #23

      How did I miss this long time reader first time poster- wasn’t there something in radio land long time listener first time caller? Hello!

  2. la ragazza d’oro
    April 12, 2013 at 8:25 PM | #24

    I just can’t believe how much stress you must be under Jac. With all your tenacity, strength and personal turmoil that is exasperated by Tre. You are not liable of other’s foolery! in solidarity and love

    • love4peace
      April 12, 2013 at 8:35 PM | #25

      wow really it’s Tre’s fault she clubbed someone. Teresa has super powers

      • Chickadeeeee
        April 13, 2013 at 12:11 AM | #26

        It’s my understanding that it is also Teresa’s fault that Ashlee/Ashleigh/Ashley is such a loser.

    • mare
      April 12, 2013 at 8:37 PM | #27

      Huh? Seriously–huh? Other’s foolery? Not liable? I think you are trying to say that Jac isn’t responsible for anything SHE has done? Huh? You are pouring too much Baileys in that coffee. The woman has caused her own problems. And lying to a judge is not going to make it better.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 12, 2013 at 8:42 PM | #28

      translation – “the golden girl” . .. . .

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 12, 2013 at 8:47 PM | #29

      Yes indeed it is very stressful when you lie and lie under oath. Jax needs to find a new whipping boy, Danielle was first and then Super T. Problem is Teresa knew how to handle Cracker Jax and that is click ignore and go about your business. We are all grown women here and it is pretty clear Jax plays the victim and it is always someone else’s fault. That dog just won’t hunt anymore. Do you think Jaxkas can go before a judge pout and tell them it’s all Teresa’s fault. Jax better hope she can rock an orange jumpsuit.

    • April 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM | #30

      She is liable for her own foolery and her list is long.

    • April 13, 2013 at 1:42 AM | #31

      … I just can’t.

      • Confused
        April 13, 2013 at 11:54 AM | #32

        I wish you would Sackem!

    • Jacquie
      April 14, 2013 at 4:17 PM | #34

      Ba haha did you just blame Teresa for jac behaving like an asshole? You cant be blaming Teresa for all these so called educated,well to do adults behaviour Teresa wasn’t charged, jac however ……..

  3. love4peace
    April 12, 2013 at 8:33 PM | #35

    It seems to me that Bravo has the chance to clean house. I hope they give the tapes over and people are sent to jail and/or fined. CLEAN HOUSE BRAVO.

  4. Jeannie5233
    April 12, 2013 at 8:36 PM | #36

    Yeah! The tapes have been subpeonaed – that is good news! Thank you Fame!

    • love4peace
      April 12, 2013 at 8:37 PM | #37

      pushing the like button

    • Buck Henry
      April 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM | #38

      I’m with you, the tapes being subpeonaed is the best thing that can happen to JTG. He wouldn’t be screaming this is a setup if it wasn’t one. Bravo thought they could get an on camera fight and they did but it went to damn far and he was assaulted by Gorga, Chris and JaxDaniels. I truly think that they went up there telling those lies thinking that Bravo won’t throw them under the bus and they remember last time at Punta Cana. I think they are so wrong. First of all this isn’t Punta Cana it’s NJ in the US of A, and litigation is a fine tuned sport here in this country. If JTG didn’t go to the police a lawyer would have found him and talked him into it. What they are hopeing is by lying that both are looking at charges that he would agree to drop his if they drop theirs, but I don’t think so. Because he knows that the tape and witness say something else, and none of them have said anything close to what Joe and Chris and JaxDaniels made testified about today. Everything they said was what they perceived, you see their lawyer is being cute. Trying to say that I felt this way or I felt that way etc. et., and we had to do this because we perceived something about to happen.

      They painted themselves in a corner and it’s not good. Because if that tape or another vid from that night shows that JTG walked in and they moved directly at him to confront him and everything he said and witnesses said where confirmed, they are looking at perjury. Oh by the way when I said that Bravo will throw them under the bus, they will. Because their security held him down to be attacked along with him being setup and invited (HE WAS MIC’d) and instead of protecting him they aided his assault. They could be looking at a major lawsuit.

      If I was Bravo this is what I would do. I would go to JTG’s lawyer and tell them that Bravo will settle out of court for 1 million or 1.5 million with a non-disclosure and no fault on Bravo. And to add a sweetener they say that they will add JTG and Penny as a fulltime housewive for the next filming season. He would go for that and his wife would go for that. And at the same time they say (which they have no control really), that they won’t care about the case you are bringing on assault with Joe Chris and JaxDaniels. This would give Bravo it’s major story line with Penny and JTG with the rest while they film the outcome and the tension.

      • elemcee
        April 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM | #39

        Your perception of fear must be reasonable. Even if you are genuinely afraid, it does not matter if a “reasonable” person would not be afraid in the same situation. Jac can cry she was afraid all she wants, but I do not think much of what she feels is reasonable.

      • April 12, 2013 at 11:22 PM | #40

        Hey Buck, my source mentioned that the reason Gorga and the Lauritas filed the cross complaint was to get JTG to drop charges. I forgot to include it in the article, but I just added it. I’m surprised that the judge thought there was enough evidence to charge JTG. I like your analysis, and I believe the Lauritas committed perjury. I think you’re right that Bravo could be looking at a major lawsuit, and probably will agree to a settlement to avoid it.

        • Jersey_Girl
          April 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM | #41

          Hey Fame, I think the defendants sending text messages asking if Johnny was pressing charges or texting apologies is admissible in court to prove purgery & malicious prosecution. So yea, they’re screwed. Haha

          • April 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM | #42

            Very interesting… thanks Jersey_Girl!

      • Anonymous
        April 13, 2013 at 10:22 AM | #43

        “litigation is a fine tuned sport here in this country” Loved this comment! How true. I also like your assessment of the situation. Personally, I’d take the money but wouldn’t go on the show, release Bravo from liability and still pursue charges.

  5. Jersey
    April 12, 2013 at 8:44 PM | #44

    There is 3 sides to every story. There is the Greeks, the RHoNJ cast and the Truth. If the tapes don’t show twhat caused the fight then we will ever no the real truth. The fact that Johnny was the only one with a bruised face helps his case.
    I know people who are friends with the real owners of Rutts Huts and they are upset that the restaurant is being referred as ” his place of business.” He does not own the restaurant. Northjersey.com changed their post and said he was an employee. My husband owns a small business so I can’t blame the real owners for being upset. Who would want their business associated with this housewife nonsense?

    • April 12, 2013 at 9:01 PM | #45

      I was told that JTG’s father bought Rutt’s Hut 37 years ago and that the business is still in his father’s name along with an uncle of JTG, and to protect their personal assets, the shares are in a trust.

      This is from NJ.com:

      John Karagiorgis, co-owner of Rutt’s Hutt, Clifton – Home of the Ripper – gives the Munch crew a little friendly Jersey attitude. The Munchers visited eight of the state’s best-known hot dog joints. (Video by Pete Genovese). Watch video at this link:

      http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/clifton_hot_dog_giant_rutts_hu.html

      This is from locationscout:

      The original roadside stand was opened in 1928 by Royal “Abe” Rutt and his wife, Anna. The family sold the restaurant to the current owner, Nicholas Karagiorgis, in late 1974. Today the building is split into three separate sections: a restaurant, a bar, and a take-out counter.

      http://nyc.locationscout.us/location-scout-vr-pano-rutts-hut/

      This is from trippyfood.com:

      Abe Rutt started out small, hawking his red hots to passers-by along the highway that ran past the stand. Eventually, a sturdy brick building was erected around it featuring a bar and a dining area (the glassed in counter and take-out room at the back of the building is what remains of the original hut). The business was sold in 1974 to Nicholas Karagiorgis, whose family still runs the restaurant with the rhyming name. The location just on the other side of the Hudson from Manhattan makes Rutt’s Hut a mandatory destination when in the New York City area.

      http://www.trippyfood.com/2011/12/08/frank-the-ripper/

      • Jersey
        April 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM | #46

        Legally his uncle and cousin and father own it. Saying he owns it is like saying Albie and Chris Manzo own the Brownstone.

        • April 12, 2013 at 9:59 PM | #47

          Well, he is the son of one of the owners. It is his family’s business and has been for 37 years (his father was the one who purchased it). I’m sure that is why he works there — he is Nicholas Karagiorgis’ son and he co-runs his father’s business, Rutt’s Hut. Tiny Manzo (deceased) owned The Brownstone, and now his sons Albert and Tommy run it. I’m sure Albert and Tommy worked at The Brownstone and helped run it both before and after their father died. JTG’s father surely recognizes that his son has a passion for the family business and, like most fathers, shows his appreciation for that. I have seen one article saying JTG is co-owner (but he is not quoted as saying this), and I haven’t read or heard JTG making claims, verbally or in writing, that he owns it.

          • Jersey
            April 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM | #48

            My point is that he does not own it legally today. His father also has the right to sell his share of the business and pocket the money. I know people who have done that to there kids.

            • Jersey_Girl
              April 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM | #49

              Wow, you really have it for Johnny don’t you? Why do you worry about who owns what? Your replies are childish & appear quite envious. What he owns, what he does, or how much he has shouldn’t concern you unless of course you want to be his side dish. Hahaha.
              Drop it already. You look petty & ignorant.

            • Bliss
              April 13, 2013 at 10:37 PM | #50

              Sorry, I’m not trying to be in anyway disrespectful, but it is painfully obvious that Jersey here must be very young? The points you are trying to make are that of a child & make absolutely no difference whatsoever with anything that is going on.

              You lack any sort of intellect. You sound foolish. Really, you do.

    • Klown Kardashian
      April 15, 2013 at 2:00 PM | #51

      The owners are the greeks so your friends are a 4th side to their fabricated truth. This is public info by the way. Doesn’t take much to know it.

  6. April 12, 2013 at 8:48 PM | #52

    So happy to hear the tapes were subpoenaed, maybe the “real story” will come to light. What is up with jacs face? Is bloat caused by alcohol or maybe too many fillers? What a shame, on season one I thought she was very pretty.

  7. JUST ME.
    April 12, 2013 at 8:51 PM | #53

    What has Teresa to do with this ? Nothing….she may have been in the room but then again many others were there also….so with that thinking everyone at the party was guilty…maybe even the caterers and cleaning staff…and I suspect even the vallet parking cars was also in on it….

  8. haydaki
    April 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM | #54

    At least now, maybe we will find out what really happened. Im glad they were able to get the tapes. Why was jac and Caroline calling Penny from Arizona. I hope when all this is over, Penny is able to talk. I do believe you were right Fame, this season was going to be another bring Teresa down season. Why else would Caroline and Jac be calling Penny? I’ve been saying it all along, Teresa better not trust anyone of these women. She can try to mend her relationship with her brother, but I wouldn’t tell those two anything.

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM | #55

      The three stooges put themselves in a very vulnerable position claiming they have been threatened and harassed. The real sticking point will be producing tweets, phone records, text messages to prove it. Jax is a master at fingerpointing and blame what happens when the court sees how she comports herself via social media? This isn’t Bravo…..its a court of law and perjury is not an option. It’s about to get real.

      • haydaki
        April 12, 2013 at 9:32 PM | #56

        ITA!

  9. Jeannie5233
    April 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM | #57

    The phrase “his place of business” does not necessarily mean he is the business owner. My husband is an attorney and his place of business is where he works. While he does conduct transactions of business and legal affairs, he does not own the company. What a ridiculous thing for Rutts Hut to be so upset about. He does work there and I would think they would be more concerned about the fact he was beaten. Where’s the compassion of his fellow workers? Geez.

    • Jeannie5233
      April 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM | #58

      This was in response to Jersey’s comment – sorry, but I find that to be so trivial in the grand scheme of things of what is going on here.

      • Jersey
        April 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM | #59

        At first he said he was the owner and I found it disrespectful to his family who never wanted any part of the drama that is associated with the RHONJ. Given what happened at the Salon in Ridgewood, I can’t blame them. I am sure they feel bad he got hurt, but his family warned him to stay away from these people and he didn’t listen. The Greeks played the same card as the Gorgas and were hoping they would be rewarded with a contract, but instead he was rewarded with black eyes and a bruised forehead. He needs to stop chasing fame and focus on filling his father shoes in the business.

        • Aint Pittypat
          April 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM | #60

          All of the above my be true. Yet a bully beatdown was not warranted or justified. There is never an excuse for violence and we have become all to practiced at blame the victim especially when faux celebrities are involved. I am not sure why it matters what he may or may not own . We do not know the nature of the family trust so why speculate about something that has no bearing on whether a man is punched in the forehead with a deadly object.

          • elemcee
            April 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM | #61

            Pittypat, I think we need to promote deadly object to weapon of mass destruction. Girl has some BIG feet!

            And a bully beatdown is never justified. I hope Joe Marco is ready to produce evidence of this phone harassment, I wonder if he even understands that will be expected.

            • Aint Pittypat
              April 12, 2013 at 11:52 PM | #62

              I doubt it and I would be very curious what other interesting texts, late night convos will turn up in those phone records. All I can say is pot/black much when it comes to nasty tweets and threats.

              • Aint Pittypat
                April 13, 2013 at 12:04 AM | #63

                Sorry gessie my posted response sounded snarky. Joey makes Teresa look like brain surgeon/slash/ supreme court justice. He really does not comprehend that he did not open a can of whoop azz but a can of worms.This will bring MeGos relationship front and center. Wishing very ill man to die front and center. I hope the attorneys get the real skinny out of the self.proclaimed perfect wife and mother. Anyone else hear a time bomb ticking and about to explode?

          • Jeannie5233
            April 13, 2013 at 2:39 AM | #64

            Word.

        • Jeannie5233
          April 13, 2013 at 2:37 AM | #65

          It is still trivial and now that he got beat up and is being accused of serious charges, he needs to focus on his health and pursuing his legal options, not filling his father’s shoes.

          You have taken it upon yourself to remind us over and over and over again that the Greeks took the Gorgas’ route in their efforts to get on the show. I believe most of us understand your point of view by now and get it. Thank you.

          Regardless of whether or not he was jockeying for FAME, you already stated he didn’t deserve to be beaten. Then what is your point to bring up the issue of ownership of Rutts if only to state your case that Johnny was in it for the fame – once again? That is not the issue going on here right now. The issue is that a man was beaten – badly. If he did indeed get hit with a stilletto, he could have been greivously injured or worse, killed – dead. THAT is serious sh@t. Not whether he wanted fame. Where is the indignation to that??

          And while his family may have warned him, I would bet that at the end of the day with the severity of allegedly being attacked by three people, with one possibly wielding a potentially deadly weapon, his family would be far more concerned for his well being. As you are well aware, Greeks are tightknit. What’s done is done as far as what has happened and why. I am sure his family is closing ranks around him supporting him and not worrying about the semantics of who owns Rutts

          • April 13, 2013 at 8:28 AM | #66

            As usual, you have said what we were all thinking.

            • elemcee
              April 13, 2013 at 12:24 PM | #67

              And we all love her for it! Always so caring and eloquent. Thank you Jeannie!

          • Jersey
            April 13, 2013 at 9:02 AM | #68

            He was also charged and has to fight his case in court and must prove he is telling the truth of what happened at the Salon. He is not doing himself any favors my posting things that are not true. The laurita’s and the Gorgas have Bravo’s checkbook on their side. They can easily obtain all of Johnny’s twitter records and could easily prove he is a BS artist who was willing to trash a reality star for his own 15 minutes of fame. We do not know his DM messages on twitter. Chris Stark posted in twitter that she warned the Greeks that they are being used and she was right. Jeannie, you and I were not there so how do you know if his version Of the story is true. I am not so quick to believe Penny’s friend as the true version.

            This fight at the salon is front page news in the Bergen Record and everybody is talking about this. I am hearing more and more negative stories about the Greeks. In January someone who posted under the name Deseriee Diamond on this sight, and what He or she said about the Greeks is what I am now hearing around Bergen County.

            • RedVelvetCake
              April 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM | #69

              Johnny’s lawyer can obtain a supeona for the Laurita’s twitter rants, i have heaps of rants from Jacko,that i will e-mail Johnny’s lawyer,i’m sure Johnny’s lawyer will hire a private investigator to find out about lil Joey Marco’s past. Joey Marco and the Laurita’s are not doing themselves a favor,their past coming out will hurt them more than Johnny’s past, the Laurita’s and lil Joey Marco have some sorry ass lawyers,i bet they will reach a settlement with Johnny ,just like lil Joey reached a settlement with the college coed, if i was johnny’s lawyer i would demand the court to do a drug test on lil Joey to see if he uses steroids.Johnny’s lawyer got so much ammo against the Laurita’s and lil Joey.

              • elemcee
                April 13, 2013 at 12:27 PM | #70

                And this, RedVelvetCake, is why Teresa did not want her brother on the show. T must be heartbroken for her parents.

            • Jeannie5233
              April 13, 2013 at 9:54 AM | #71

              You ask me how do I know his version? I wouldn’t even pretend to. And you admit you don’t either. You also do not know as FACT that Bravo will be picking up Lauritas’ and Gorga’s legal fees. Johnny’s attorneys can do the same to them as well – Jacs has an arsenal from which to pick on. You want to gather evidence on one’s character? Let’s all revisit Jacqueline’s tweets the past two years. Side note: If Johnny has been coming at Jacqueline and stalking her, she has never been a shrinking violet when it comes to responding – where are her tweets in reference to him? Chris Stark’s theories are just that and unless you have first hand knowledge and are on the inside, you don’t know if she is right or not. Even when the show airs, we, the viewers, will never know the real truth.

              What bothers me is that when all is said and done, you still persist on focusing on past actions which, based on your writings, you deem far more important than a man being beaten badly. It’s almost as if the brawl is an afterthought. Chris and Jacqueline Laurita and Joe Gorga do not bear the bruises and injuries JTG does. Whether the Lauritas or Gorga like it or not, that will bear heavily and go a long way in favor of JTG.

              All these rumors, innuendo, gossip swirling all over and the rehashing of JTG’s actions over and over is just noise – just so that people have something to talk about. The courts certainly are not going to care about that. What they will be looking for is the timeline of the events immediately before, during, and after the altercation. Just because Johnny wanted Fame does not give anyone the right to beat him up and the courts will evaluate that and take it into consideration. If Bravo did indeed provoke this and it was carried out too far, I hope the fullest extent of the law is laid out on Bravo as well. Ridiculous. We are talking about a possible FELONY here for Jacqueline – like I said, serious Sh*t.

              I don’t make judgements on people or cast stones because of what I think I know or what I have heard in the rumor mill until I have some validity in my own mind. I will not allow my personal opinion of JTG cloud my thinking. It is obvious you do not like the Greeks. I have never once voiced my personal feelings about either Johnny or Penny. While you may feel you have more perspective than I on the situation, you are definitely projecting a lack of compassion for a man who could have been seriously and permanently injured. I am not interested in what the Greeks have or have not done at this point. This has gone way beyond that.

              This could have been another Russell Armstrong situation if the alleged stilletto attack had landed in just the right spot on Johnny’s head or someone hit their head on the floor. I will keep that first in my mind and the very fact that producers didn’t allow the police to be called. I am not concerned at all whether John Kargiorgis is a famewhore or not. Bravo needs to take responsibility for this atrociousness of allowing such violence and their castmembers to behave in such a manner. THAT is where the discussion and focus should be on. The Bergen Record should be investigating the facts of this matter and Bravo’s role in a non-partisan manner.

              Once again, sensationalism in the media at its best. We all know “scandal” and salaciousness sells far better than unbiased investigation and reporting. It is more important that a man is a famewhore than the fact he got severely beaten?? Pity what people feed on these days. It is an indicator and sad commentary on just how sick society has become.

              • love4peace
                April 13, 2013 at 10:13 AM | #72

                The fact that you had to state this is disturbing. A man was assaulted. This is a crime. All involved should be punished. If the state of New Jersey lets this slide it will be a sad day indeed. The world is watching.

                • Jeannie5233
                  April 13, 2013 at 11:42 AM | #73

                  More than disturbing. Trivializing the threat to bodily harm of a fellow human being for the sake of trying to be relevant is such a far cry from where my perspective is of what is important in this gift we have been given called Life.

              • Confused
                April 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM | #74

                I agree Jeannie. To use fame whoring as an argument is a non-issue here as it could be applied at anyone affiliated with these shows.

              • April 13, 2013 at 11:09 AM | #75

                Click the image below for a large photo of JTG’s head injury from the stiletto:

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                Caption: John Karagiorgis in a photo provided by his lawyers, Sekas & Abrahamsen, LLC.

                I did not see any mention of Jacqueline hitting JTG with her stiletto heel in her testimony reported at NorthJersey.com (The Bergen Record). And in an April 5th People magazine article about the fight, “a source close to Jacqueline” denies the accusation:

                Another report says Jacqueline took off her shoes and bashed Karagiorgis on the head.

                A source close to the Lauritas denies the accusation and defends the reality stars.

                “She never used her shoe against [Karagiorgis],” says the source. “And everyone felt as though he came in there confrontational, and instigated the fight.”

                http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20688623,00.html

                RT reported that Jacqueline allegedly “kicked off her shoes and hopped up on a chair then bitchslapped Johnny on the back of his head with her left hand.”

                How can she deny using her shoe if there are witnesses and tape?

                • Aint Pittypat
                  April 13, 2013 at 11:50 AM | #76

                  Fame, one would think after Ashlee pulling Danielle’s hair Jax would know that provocation will have little bearing on the matter. IMO Jax is confident.Bravo will make this go away. Like Russel Armstrong. Like Punta Canta. Roll tape.

                • elemcee
                  April 13, 2013 at 12:19 PM | #77

                  Fame, I cannot even bear to look at this picture. The three stooges are so lucky he is okay, this could have been so much worse. There are just no words for their stupidity.

            • Aint Pittypat
              April 13, 2013 at 11:42 AM | #78

              Who do you think is behind this sudden revelatory information about the Greek? Hmmm could be someone with the power of Bravo behind them or the interested parties? PR 101.

          • I live in the neighborhood
            April 13, 2013 at 10:28 AM | #79

            Well said, I don’t care who or what anyone believes the violence is horrible, 3 against one is not fair, wrong, Bravo is the real culprit, allowing this to happen, at fashion shows, christenings, DR, and store openings.

        • Anonymous
          April 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM | #80

          Jersey don’t like the Greeks ! That’s ok, everyone entitled to they’re own opinion here, and mine is that not matter what you do, violence is never the answer, least of all for a pay check.

          Lily M.

        • Jersey_Girl
          April 13, 2013 at 10:30 PM | #81

          Your comments are nothing but ridiculous. Tell you what, tell his cousins that are filling your ears that I said to shut the f up or I’ll start with what I know. And I’ll start it with Anastasia …. So shut it before I embarrass you all.

  10. tb
    April 12, 2013 at 9:18 PM | #82

    I am definitely team Giudice but the commentary about Chris unbuttoning his jacket and Joe Gorga rolling up his sleeves is bogus. The pictures that are posted in this blog and in the link in the blog show Chris’ jacket already unbuttoned and Joe Gorga’s cuffs rolled up. Still no reason to assault a person.

    • April 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM | #83

      I think that’s how it was perceived by JTG and his friend when they walked into the salon – that the jacket was unbuttoned and sleeves cuffed because Chris and Joe were ready for a confrontation when JTG was finally let in. My notes about it are cryptic and I don’t remember the exact context. If I’m wrong, my source will most likely let me know.

  11. April 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM | #84

    At the end of the day, this is a Bravo set- up and they are responsible for luring the victim to this location where they were illegally anticipating filming a brawl that they set into motion. I do not believe that the stump and the Lauritas were unaware that a fight was planned. They are so lucky that he doesn’t have brain damage. My husband is a doctor who has worked in an inner city hospital for over thirty years and my son is in his Trauma rotation and I can tell you this blows to the head can be and frequently are deadly. There is absolutely nothing amusing or trivial about this incident, it is deadly serious and I would bet my dog that Bravo will get way with this again and again until somebody is seriously injured or worse. Why didn’t they pull a permit? Because they knew what they were up to, that’s why. It was a calculated, criminal decision. Jacqueline says they were packed in their like sardines. What if there was a fire? This is unacceptable on so many levels. Bravo needs to be sued by the town for what they have done. Do they ever learn a lesson or stop pushing the violence envelope? No. In fact, getting away with everything that they get away with only encourages them to do more. I saw a commercial for Married to Medicine. The next episode ends in a vicious brawl and it is what, episode #2? Aside from the absurdity of doctors and their wives brawling, the professional black medical community is up in arms about this show. A petition with 8,000 signatures is circulating because black doctors and especially black female physicians feel like they have to work so hard to get where they are and that they make up such a small percentage of physicians in general, that this show may actually have a detrimental effect on them getting residencies. Seriously. I believe the protest is coming out of Howard University. They are disgusted by the promotion of stereotyping black reality stars as ghetto talking thugs. They don’t want young black girls to watch this show and think it has any basis in reality.

    I am so disgusted with Bravo on so many levels, that I can’t even express myself well right now. I am amazed that New Jersey Italian Americans are not fed up with this trash. It infuriates me that Bravo is going to get off Scott- free. Both sides will drop charges against each other in the end and it will be business as usual for the soul- less maggots at Bravo once again. This is just unconscionable to me.

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 12, 2013 at 10:04 PM | #85

      Awesome post gessie and reflective of your great intelligence as usual. I got a glimpse of the Married to Medicine promo and that was unconscionable. Brawling like WWE , really is that necessary? I hope the protest petition grows. I’m sick that Bravo now actively promotes violence. I know many will disagree but I detest seeing this shoves down the publics throats especially young people. After Newtown we all need to stop and reflect . Violence is never acceptable and yet our young ones are becoming anesthetized to physical altercations, brutality and cruelty.

      • April 12, 2013 at 10:32 PM | #86

        So true, Auntie Pittypat. How can Bravo do all this anti- bullying stuff, and then turn around and promote bullying and violence. Hypocrites.

        • morgaineswann
          April 13, 2013 at 12:36 AM | #87

          Has anyone ever noticed that the BRAVO people who cry bullying are always the ones doing the real bullying?

          • April 13, 2013 at 3:06 AM | #88

            BUT Andy’s definition of bullying, despite haven spoken on the topic, excludes most Housewives, they are unbulliable…. apparently.

          • April 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM | #89

            Yes.

    • love4peace
      April 12, 2013 at 10:06 PM | #90

      You know come to thank of it i’ve never seen a black female dr. That makes me sad. I can understand why they would be upset.

    • love4peace
      • April 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM | #92

        love, thanks for the link. I totally understand where these women are coming from.

      • Confused
        April 13, 2013 at 11:59 AM | #93

        Done — and forwarded to via my address book. Thanks for posting

    • April 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM | #94

      Great post! I have to agree, after a few $$$$ are passed around, Bravo will get out of this and it will be business as usual.

    • elemcee
      April 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM | #95

      Gessie, one of the best posts in the history of blogs! You took the words right out of my mouth.

    • April 12, 2013 at 11:41 PM | #96

      From the article linked above:

      “Bravo’s ‘Married to Medicine’ not only exploits the 6 lives of its Black female cast members, but, through its advertisements and commercials, heavily associates Black females in medicine with materialism, ‘cat fights’ and unprofessionalism. In a time when doctors are being held to very high standards by the public and each other, it is unfathomable for such a depiction of medicine and black women to be broadcast on tv where it will be inevitably available for years to come, on the internet and through other media outlets.”

      This reminds me of quotes from the book “Reality Bites Back”:

      “Reality TV’s racial typecasting, infantilizing fairytales, and hyperconsumerism—indeed, all the issues explored in Reality Bites Back—are a testament to what happens when advertisers expand the stories they tell from static print ads and thirty-second commercial breaks to feature-length programming. Using real people as their props, marketers have worked with producers to cultivate entire faux worlds based on sexist, racist ideologies. Worse, they have pretended the results are just reflecting—rather than attempting to shape—American life.”

      “In The Real Housewives of Atlanta, one cast mate (DeShawn Snow) who wouldn’t perform diva antics on cue was canned … she was the only original cast member not asked to return to Atlanta’s second season because Bravo considered her too dignified. A producer “said I was ‘too human for a circus show’ and that because the show did so well, they are about to pump up the drama and they didn’t think that I would fit in.” During RHOA’s entire first season, viewers never learned about DeShawn Snow’s postgraduate divinity studies. Why? Because filming a competent, intelligent African America woman pursuing a master’s degree would have broken producers’ preferred narrative: that Black women (and their wealthy white lady friends) are gossipy idiots.”

      I covered the book in this article:

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/the-reality-of-reality-tv-and-10-reasons-to-stop-watching-bravotv/

    • April 13, 2013 at 3:05 AM | #97

      Wow! Great post! Whilst I LOVE your one liners, I really really love reading your long ones to.

      • April 13, 2013 at 3:18 AM | #98

        PS Haven’t seen the show you’re talking about but I think I’ve seen clips – it looks very Basketball Wives which I couldn’t stand to watch. Bravo has two speeds gay men or trashy women. Neither group is adequately represented by Bravo which I think is just appalling – it further embeds outdated stereotypes into a new generation.

    • Confused
      April 13, 2013 at 10:44 AM | #99

      Excellent post. How many posters here have ever been in a brawl as an adult? I bet no one. In my opinion, Bravo will soon have to look at the development of another type of reality show as they have more than crossed. the line. I have stuck to my guns and haven’t watched these shows (except for perusing the Bravotv site and reading the blogs).

  12. JennyS
    April 12, 2013 at 9:41 PM | #100

    Jax’s response clearly shows she was counseled by the attorney to basically, lie. “Feeling threatened’ is subjective. What makes one feel threatened doesn’t even register a blip on the radar of another. They obviously got together to figure out what they could say that would raise the eyebrows of the judge, and they got it. Terroristic threats and threats to kill? Please. I can’t believe it worked. With a civil case it’s going to be a “preponderance of the evidence” vs the plaintiff proving beyond a reasonable doubt, correct?

    • Jeannie5233
      April 13, 2013 at 2:54 AM | #101

      The Lauritas and Gorga probable cause hearing occurred in a matter of two days. Johnny’s was over a week later. Plenty of time for them to be counseled and prepped by their attorneys. Hence the dinner they all enjoyed the night before – to make sure they had their story straight.

  13. Aint Pittypat
    April 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM | #102

    Wow, fellow famers , did poor old Aint Pitty miss something? Was this Jax event? She cough …claims…. Cough that JTG was asked not to attend. Sounds as if Bravo certainly planned that JTG was there and actually held in abeyance until JoGo, Chris and Jax were sufficiently worked up and in fight mode. Dear dummy Jacaloon if ever there was a time to bury your face in a pillow and pretend to sleep this was it.

    • Cee_See
      April 13, 2013 at 10:51 AM | #103

      Aint Pittypat, there are too many holes in Jaxazz’s story! First, Jax was also able to know how one dresses when they are ready to ‘fight’. I guess her huband owning Signature Apparel makes her a professional in dress clothes vs. ‘fighting’ clothes! To me, someone looking for a fight, and is male, usually wears no shirt and gym shorts/pants, with tennis shoes that have a good gripe on the sole of the shoe. If a shirt is worn than a tight t-shirt, something that can’t be used as defense against the fighter, (eg. a lose shirt can easily be grabbed and pulled over the opponents head so the opponent can’t see and is easily punched about the body).

      Second, a picture of Jax holding a half empty/full drink is shown. I’m positive that the drink is a ‘mixed’ drink and I’m positive that wasn’t her one and only drink. Plus, I’m sure that wasn’t her first drink of the night. What I’m pointing out is that Jax was probably inebriated. Being inebriated disorientates one and their ability to judge. So, Jax, in her drunken state of mind is able to tell if someone is on ‘drugs’? Jax set herself up to be taken down by a defense attorney! I wonder if she’s going to ‘psycho’ out when questioned on the stand? I’m sure she will interupt the attorney questioning her, and the judge will tell her to be quiet, and she’ll say in her shrill voice, ‘BUT, YOUR HONOR, I CAN’T JUST SIT HERE AND SAY NOTHING WHILE HE/SHE LIES ABOUT ME!!!” If this case does go to trial I hope it’s broadcast, at least for Jax’s testimony!

      • April 13, 2013 at 11:51 AM | #104

        I added a new set of photos to this article of Jacqueline holding a drink at the salon. Jacqueline is holding a cocktail while sitting in the salon chair — the cocktail is almost full in one photo and about half empty in the next photo.

      • Aint Pittypat
        April 13, 2013 at 11:55 AM | #105

        Love this post so very true.

      • JUST ME.
        April 16, 2013 at 6:29 AM | #106

        Any woman would have to be drunk out of her mind to stand on a chair and wack a man on the head, in my 65 years I have never. Had a brawl,in fact I don’t know any woman who has….and if they were I would not have them as a friend after that…

  14. HWAddict
    April 12, 2013 at 9:47 PM | #107

    Jacqueline the queen of drunken tweets is committing perjury in court. It is ironic she is claiming to be a victim of tweets! These fools cannot have BRAVO editing in the court to bail them out. JTG should keep quiet and let the video tape do the talking.

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 12, 2013 at 11:10 PM | #108

      If JTG wasn’t supposed to be at the event why was he mic’d ? I hope the film tells the story. Andy has the perfect excuse to give the Lauritas and Gorgas the Bravo boot!

      • April 13, 2013 at 1:00 AM | #109

        Do we know for a fact that he was MIC’d?

        • Jersey_Girl
          April 13, 2013 at 9:49 PM | #110

          Yes he was mic’d.

          • April 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM | #111

            Thanks for this JG, I added it to the article.

  15. Zoebot
    April 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM | #112

    I wouldn’t say this about any other person but Jacqueline needs a refund on that two dollar looking nose job. Yikes! And maybe she should try the lapband a la Don Caro and Lauren.

    I really hope justice is served in this case but I won’t hold my breath. I’m so annoyed that JTG even got charged.

    • Popeye
      April 13, 2013 at 9:03 AM | #113

      Call me Negative Nancy but I just feel like somehow this whole thing will slowly disappear and nothing will come of it. Maybe this is a PR stunt to get people to watch the new season or maybe to make the Lauritas and Gorgas look like victims. I hope I’m wrong.

  16. Meri
    April 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM | #114

    I’m not so sure this will all go away with $$ being exchanged. Once charges are made and the prosecutor feels there is enough evidence there may not be any turning back. Bravo may have done it this time. I could be wrong, maybe Bravo can swoop in and offer money to Johnny to drop charges or let them plea it down. Any lawyers out there that can shed some light?

    • Anonymous
      April 13, 2013 at 12:57 AM | #115

      I think once the state steps in and takes the case no charges can be dropped? Does anyone know if JTG went to the hospital? Since he said he has a broken nose?? Jax seriously needs to lay off the booze,she probly drank a gallon of wine the night before court!!She looks like crap!!!

    • April 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM | #116

      Let’s not forget that Jacqueline stated that there were a tsunami of people crammed into this space. That’s an awful lot of witnesses. It sounds like she felt more threatened by the amount of people in her face and took it out on JTG.

    • Aint Pittypat
      April 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM | #117

      The charges didn’t go.away for Ashley, did they? She has a record now for simple assault. Once again Jax saw fit to lecture Gia ….why? Because A. Jax is crazy, B. Jax is such a great role model or C . Hypocrite much Jax?

  17. morgaineswann
    April 13, 2013 at 12:45 AM | #118

    I hope they don’t get away with lying in court! Twitter records, even deleted ones, can be pulled off JTG’s server, so if he didn’t harass them, it’s going to be proven. I’m sure his attorney will have all of Jac’s & Joey Marco’s greatest Twitter hits, too. I think they’ll find that lying about all this stuff was a bad idea.

    • Anonymous
      April 13, 2013 at 1:30 AM | #119

      I live in Detroit,that’s how Kawammi Kilpatric got busted, they went back years into his text messages!! Also about 30 other peoples text, so you can delet all you want but its already written in stone,sorta like the 10 commandments!! ; ) The Red Sea is about to be parted again!! Holy Moses!! Luv ya,Detroitrockcity!

  18. April 13, 2013 at 2:16 AM | #120

    OMG. Can you imagine if Jax and Chris really are lying about Nick and then try to say Blk Water cured him? Did I just type that? Nobody would do that, right?

    • elemcee
      April 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM | #121

      I really, really hope no one would do that…

  19. April 13, 2013 at 3:02 AM | #122

    I’m just excited to have the liars exposed. Let’s see who’s been telling the truth like good little girls and boys.

    • April 13, 2013 at 3:20 AM | #123

      Oh and I notice good old Perez has jumped back on the Anti Teresa bandwagon again..

      • Anonymous
        April 13, 2013 at 4:00 AM | #124

        He’s sooo nasty, he does make “gay look ugly “!!

        • April 13, 2013 at 12:27 PM | #125

          And to think a child has been manufactured for him. I guess his goldendoodle wasn’t enough. My goldendoodle is better than his goldendoodle. I hate that guy. He is such a liar.

    • Anonymous
      April 13, 2013 at 3:31 AM | #126

      Once they pulled “texting trump card ” Do they not know what can worms they just opened??? This could be very damageing to everyone, they better be ready for a shitstorm! Can’t believe people are that stupid!!!

      • Anonymous
        April 13, 2013 at 3:41 AM | #127

        Sorry”can of worms ” ^^ Hey Sackem!! Hope all is well with you & ava, daddy too! Read you had a big move?!! Hope your settled in your new place,must be crazy with new babe and all! Much love to you all and good luck <3 Detroitrockcity;)

        • April 13, 2013 at 4:25 AM | #128

          Thank you DRC! We’re great, it’s just a short contract so we’ll be home in a few months. How are you doing?

          • Anonymous
            April 13, 2013 at 5:00 AM | #129

            Very emotional, can’t sleep ,can’t eat, nights are hard miss him soooo much!! Most of all is tring to help my grandson get through it,I’ve had coustidy of him since he was a baby, but we’ll be ok just takes time : (

            • April 13, 2013 at 5:13 AM | #130

              Oh, there are absolutely no words. I’m so sorry that you are going through this. I can’t begin to imagine. I wish I could give you a big cuddle. I’m so glad that you’re here – even though we’re just computer pals – there’s alot of people thinking of you and here for support even if it’s in the form of distraction! I know as women, it’s our role to be strong and pull everyone together but being brave can be draining. I really hope you can grab moments for you and recharge the best you can. Keep posting! Sending much love your way!

              • Anonymous
                April 13, 2013 at 5:57 AM | #131

                Thank you so much,sometimes, even if I just
                come here to read,I laugh, cry ect…. but
                its so great to have “real friends ” even though

                • Anonymous
                  April 13, 2013 at 6:10 AM | #132

                  Its in cyber space! We all connect! Some crazy way,I’m kinda greatful for RHNJ!! We would have never met! Luv from the D :)

                  • April 13, 2013 at 8:21 AM | #133

                    I agree! You guys kept me company when I needed it the most!

                  • Jeannie5233
                    April 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM | #134

                    Hey DCR – Detroit City isn’t the only thing that rocks. The community of FW rocks too!! We are here for each other :) Here’s a hug! (((Detroit)))

                    • Anonymous
                      April 13, 2013 at 9:24 AM | #135

                      Thats what I’m talken about!! Love love love my Fame -ily! : )

                  • elemcee
                    April 13, 2013 at 12:10 PM | #136

                    DRC, I am thinking of you and Celi. You two have to try and get some rest. I know it is impossible but keep trying. And come hang with us when you are up to it!

      • jus me for now
        April 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM | #137

        they need those 2 lil boys to be moved to safety,im scared for them

  20. April 13, 2013 at 4:22 AM | #138

    Pufferfish = Not a good look Jax

  21. TeraM
    April 13, 2013 at 5:33 AM | #139

    Karma is real people….

    Remember Wacko said she hopes Joe goes to prison at the reunion!

    I hope Joey Marco goes to prison! Karma for what he did to his sister at the christening trying to recreate the table flip moment

    • Anonymous
      April 13, 2013 at 7:35 AM | #140

      They should all go to jail,we should all sue bravo! FOR MENTAL DISTRESS!! Class action lawsute,Bravo crossed the line,we have a voice, should not have to be tricked to believeing this is “Real ” Such a load of BS!!! I’m going to make them pay for all my asprin!! ; )

      • April 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM | #141

        Can we find an attorney who will take our case pro bono?

        • April 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM | #142

          Where’s Erin Brockovich when you need her?

  22. RedVelvetCake
    April 13, 2013 at 9:29 AM | #143

    why would andy bravo allow a stalker’s wife to be filmed for the show.i wanna see police reports and complaints to the fbi,if terrorist threats where made to sausage neck and creepy chris.lmao lil joey and melissa probably trying to work for teresa and her business ventures,they can’t live off bravo checks,they have no storyline for bravo, except fighting with teresa,they will be gone soon

    • Anonymous
      April 13, 2013 at 9:53 AM | #144

      Without Teresa,the show and the fights are over! Nobody will watch a bunch of Nobodys,they turned this and every other show to crap, hope they choke on their BS! Haven’t watched that shiz in about 9 months! Still luv teresa, wish her all the best!Lucy I’m Home! : )

  23. Bliss
    April 13, 2013 at 10:21 AM | #145

    Common sense here regarding JackDaniels;

    WHY in the world would Johnny say ” I’m going to fkn kill you ” to JackDaniels? That is such a blatant LIE, EVEN for Jac. <<a pathological liar

    Let's be real here, there is absolutely NO REASON IN THE WORLD he would EVER say something like that to her. Now, if it was Melwhore-maybe? Which, he would have no reason to say that to her either, but that would be a little more believable.

    JackDaniels-you're a crackpot Lucy & I hope to HELL you & your husband along with the midget go DOWN. You're NOT entitled, you wipe your a$$e$ like the rest of us. GROW UP, get off the booze, pills, botox and SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY.

    • Cee_See
      April 13, 2013 at 12:05 PM | #146

      ITA, Bliss. Let’s say JTG did threaten Jax out in public with her husband at her side, and security, oh, and the ‘midget’ man there. How could she feel threatened with so much ‘back-up’ that she had to defend herself with her stiletto? Now, if it was just JTG and Jax and JTG was dressed ready to fight and appeared to be on drugs and threatened Jax. Then, I could understand Jax taking off her stiletto and bonking him on the head with it. But, it wasn’t like that, and Jax is crazy to play ‘victim’ with that story! I hope she has to pay for her violent behavior. Wishing someone to jail for a non-violent crime was evil the way Jax psychotically yelled it out at the reunion. Karma, Jaxazz, maybe closer than you think!

      • April 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM | #147

        Maybe they are going for a “I’m a celebrity, I thought he was coming for me” paranoia defence?

        • Cee_See
          April 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM | #148

          I’m sure that will be Jax’s defense. Since, she is kinda-sorta a celebrity, and she is paranoid loon!

  24. I live in the neighborhood
    April 13, 2013 at 10:32 AM | #149

    Fame, you know I have been with you since day one. I respect you and your contacts. Do you know if Bravo screens their cast members for psychological problems?

    • April 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM | #150

      I don’t know, but I don’t think they do psychological testing. I’m basing that opinion partially on the following quotes from the book “Reality Bites Back”, which I did a story on at this link:

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/the-reality-of-reality-tv-and-10-reasons-to-stop-watching-bravotv/

      Standards for entry into reality casts are so low because background checks aren’t intended to ensure contestants’ safety. Instead, they’re conducted primarily to absolve producers and networks of legal liability. In fact, casting directors often seek out participants who are prone to violence—including alcoholics, drug addicts, and emotionally unstable people—the better to ensure fights, tears, and that oh-so-important ‘drama’. One anonymous producer admitted as much to Entertainment Weekly:

      “The fact is, those shows work only because of the irresponsible casting. If you force people to cast upstanding citizens without criminal records, you’re not going to get the same show.”

      • April 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM | #151

        I would guess that they screen their cast to make sure they have mental problems.

        • April 13, 2013 at 10:10 PM | #152

          Thanks for the laugh gessie!

  25. April 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM | #153

    This is why I stopped watching RHONJ it has become to violent and I hate to see everyone go after Teresa and everything is a setup to make Teresa look bad I come to the blogs to see what is going on.

  26. ChemGeek
    April 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM | #154

    Fame, Thank you for the great reporting!

    The Lauritas are trash, liars and thieves.

  27. April 13, 2013 at 1:32 PM | #155

    I can’t remember where I posted it, but I’ll be happy to finally discover, with evidence, who the liar is. For all the finger pointing and story telling we’ll get to see who has the “long nose”. It might actually bring a little resolution to the series for me. We got a Gorga on the spot and Jac, the most vocal drama queen on the show, on the stand. ( Sidenote: didn’t she say there was violence in the Guidice house with disgust?)

    I think it’s absolutely terrible that grown ups can’t use their words and resist their impulses. It’s yet another sad commentary on society – that and the fact that someone, on the production side, may think it’s entertainment. I have to ask who Bravo or the cast think the audience is? It’s the more mature audience who has a little disposable income to buy what they’re pushing but are discerning with their spend. Why would I fund a thug and a fraud with my hard earned money? Or are we the minority of viewers?

    Violence is never the answer – we learn that as children, it might get you somewhere in the short term but, eventually you have to pay for your actions. Whether or not words were uttered about a child, I strongly doubt there were, we’re meant to be more evolved than that. What am I saying? This whole show is about school yard antics. I’m starting to feel foolish for watching it! I should just watch a few episodes of COPS or WWE RAW.

    I’m so glad my boyfriend stayed out of the fray!

    Let’s see if Andy supports this seeing as though he’s so vocal with his belief system. It’s eerily quiet, you would think a situation like this would require a statement – NBC where are you?

    This seriously is harking back to the Roman Arena – can’t we just go shopping for a fabulous pair of shoes?

    Again I hope this make sense.The 2 AM feed is a killer. Long story short – they shouldn’t have raised a fist!

  28. Jersey
    April 13, 2013 at 2:21 PM | #156

    Jeannie
    Johnny has a black eye and a cut on his forehead. If you come to NJ you will see him working behind the counter frying hotdogs. He is not in a hospital getting brain surgery. Yes it was wrong that he was assulted but why would a grown man who is married with children put himself in this position. We all saw Joe’s nasty personality at the christening. Johnny should have known better.

    • RedVelvetCake
      April 13, 2013 at 6:51 PM | #157

      Nope,lil Joey Marco should have none better,now his past will be put on trial.He risked loosing the only income he has ,bravo paychecks,and tanning salon endorsements,because he is not the rich New Jersey Real Estate Developer ,that his wife claimed he was ,when they started on the show.Lil Joey and Melissa made up with Teresa to help their brand sell,but it’s too late,no one will buy stuff they hock.They are losers.They are no different from JTG, trying to get on the show.I hope JTG’s lawyer is reading this blog and will get info about the fame whorgas,they will be kissing Teresa’s ass forever now,and using the,’it’s all about family ‘card,when it’s all about the cash, getting the piece of pie.Teresa worked hard to get her piece pie. I guarantee you if Miss Andy and his production ,tell lil Joey and Melissa to turn on Teresa again they will,Andy is their master.

    • AussieFan
      April 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM | #158

      Jersey I do not understand your reasonings…assault is illegal plain and simple

    • Bliss
      April 13, 2013 at 11:06 PM | #159

      ???? Pardon my straight forwardness, but how the hell old are you?

      How can you even rationalize such a thing? “Johnny should have known better” — So, since Johnny should have known better (in your mind), should the other 3 GROWN, ADULT PARENTS had known better, too?

      I usually do my very best to respect other’s opinion, but yours are beyond ridiculous, pointless, immature & lack any sort of common sense.

      It’s clear your maturity level is that of JacDaniels. I’m embarrassed FOR you.

    • Jacquie
      April 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM | #160

      Wait Jersey, dont The Lauritas and Joey have kids? You can’t blame the victim unless like Melissa screamed at tbe reunion “ONLY I CAN CLAIM VICTIM”. Melissa has proven how she loves to egg Joey on get him into fights. Look at what Teresa told her at the posh fashion show, she loves to see him fight. Chris and Joey shouldn’t be getting any fan support cause what the did was highschool bs, and to blame bravo and Andy is just a scapegoat, just like Caroline claimed last year, editing protected the manzos from their brawl on that holiday in 9n season 3. Johnny was under the impression that all was well after that little sit down those men had. Funny how this cast of morons laughed at Teresas troubles, oh now Jac is facing possible jail time I wonder if she feels bad for what she said to Teresa and Joe. Don’t be blaming Johnny for getting attacked, those 3 fools chose to do this no one can make them behave this way. The assault was terrible and the Lauritas and Gorgas should be FIRED! Where was Richie and Kathy, they have always been right behind Joey, they all seem pretty quiet on the old tweeter accept Jacqueline.

  29. Laker
    April 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM | #161

    this is so bizzare. I work in Ridgewood three times a week and I pass that location all the time… this really is pathetic. I don’t understand how these people even function. Ridgewood is such a beautiful, peaceful town with many educated and classy people. People would be MORTIFIED if this were to happen at a restaurant or bar there. The worse thing I’ve heard happening in Ridgewood is some kids smoking weed in the train tunnel. Seriously. It really saddens me that these idiots moved to northern NJ on stolen money and are tarnishing the reputation of what is a beautiful part of the state.

  30. Klown Kardashian
    April 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM | #162

    Is it me or does Jac look seriously drunk or high on pills in this pic? I am sure all of the people that she her foolery on Twitter would agree with the fact that this loser should not be allowed to be raising kids. Especially one that needs special care. It is obvious that this lady (used loosely) is disturbed and suffers from something, plus all the drinking and pill popping she does is sad.

    BTW, this is a habitual offense/ repeat offender for Joe Gorga. Who ever say his christening knows this and all his other scenes acting like a lil biotch…

    • JUS ME FOR NOW
      April 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM | #163

      IF YOU LIVE THERE WHY DONT YOU CALL CPS ON JAX?

  31. Klown Kardashian
    April 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM | #164

    Bliss- I have to totally agree with you. You know what they say about delusional people, they believe everything they say.

    Nobody has the right to put their hands on ANYONE. But we already saw Joe Gorga go after trying to assault his own brother in law and yelling at his father as if his father is a POS. His volatile temper will land him in jail for good one day. Believe that.

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