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Giudices Distance Themselves from Penny and John Karagiorgis; Giudices and Gorgas Present a United Front at Teresa’s Milania Hair Care Launch Party

February 19, 2013

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Starting February 4, 2013, Pete Giudice and some of Teresa Giudice’s fans started tweeting @QueenzOfMedia (QOM), a known “enemy” of the Giudices and a big supporter of Melissa and her clan. It was also at this time that Teresa started following QOM on Twitter.

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On February 5, 2013, FW was alerted that QOM was asking around on Twitter about who “Fame” is. Then on February 28, 2013, QOM commented for the first time on FW, threatening to have WordPress take down my blogs (particularly, the one where John Karagiorgis backs up Pete Giudice on Twitter). Plus, QOM made sure to let me know that they had “developed a friendly relationship with the Giudice family and personal friends.”

“@bulldog_nj and one more sincere comment, ask yourself why the Giudices have distanced themselves from @johnnythegrk …think about it.” – Skylar & Grace (‏@QueenzOfMedia), February 8, 2013, Twitter

“I have developed a friendly relationship with the Giudice family and personal friends so your continued use of my twitter feed to generate content for your blog Must Stop!…. I suggest you remove all content involving me.” – Grace Alexis (@QueenzOfMedia), February 28, 2013, Fame-Whorgas

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This shift occurred right after Bryan “Bulldog” Bowen, provoked by QOM (they posted about his assault charges and his brain tumor surgery and then brought his parents into the mess), tweeted on February 4, 2013 about the alleged rape charges and John Karagiorgis, also provoked by QOM (tweets too numerous to include in this blog), tweeted on February 2, 2013: “Talking about priors with man to man altercations, let’s talk about who assaulted women.” Bryan quickly deleted his tweet, and it probably would have gone virtually unnoticed had AllAboutTRH not published a story about it.

Remember, Bryan didn’t sign up for this and isn’t being paid by Bravo to air his dirty laundry (he is a private citizen) — the Gorgas and Giudices signed contracts agreeing to give up their privacy (they are ‘public figures’) in exchange for fame, the perks that come with being a ‘celebrity’, a Bravo paycheck, and the opportunity to market products on the Bravo network and the Bravo website via their blogs (and on their own personal websites).

The following are the tweets right after Byran’s tweet at 2:53 PM on February 4, 2013 (the one he quickly deleted) including tweets about @franksabean (who Pete and Sheila Giudice follow and tweet – see “Frank” to Teresa’s right in the photo above).

Bryan ‏@bulldog_nj
1000% FACT!
2:54 PM – 4 Feb 13

Pete Giudice ‏@PeteGiudice
@franksabean include me in the convo too bro. They don’t know jack.
1 Favorite
Skylar & Grace
6:57 PM – 4 Feb 13

Pete Giudice ‏@PeteGiudice
@franksabean @sunshine1335 @fauxrealityent she won’t call because she’s a chicken. Afraid To call out her buddy.
2 Favorites
BethWalt77 Skylar & Grace Just Georgia
6:58 PM – 4 Feb 13

Pete Giudice ‏@PeteGiudice
@franksabean @johnnythegrk @pdkhair I can say the phone calls were made and Frank was the one who made peace happen. Dat chick is full of it
5 Favorites
BethWalt77 Skylar & Grace TRACEY HURT AllAboutTRhwfan not a puppet
7:00 PM – 4 Feb 13

RosangelaRoy ‏@roeroy1020
@PeteGiudice yea u tell them Pete
Retweeted by Pete Giudice
7:01 PM – 4 Feb 13

Pete Giudice ‏@PeteGiudice
@QueenzOfMedia lol. Hog wash when you tre 984cpost lies based on one sided stories. I know Frank and he don’t talk crap. I got his back 100%.
6:26 AM – 5 Feb 13

Skylar & Grace ‏@QueenzOfMedia
@AsianPosh1 @PeteGiudice i heart you poshumz

AsianPosh ‏@AsianPosh1
@PeteGiudice @QueenzOfMedia Thank you for keeping us all informed! We are not sheep! At least a few of us! #Truth
Retweeted by Pete Giudice
6:39 AM – 5 Feb 13

Frankie Beans ‏@franksabean Protected account
@franksabean’s account is protected.

Skylar & Grace ‏@QueenzOfMedia
@PeteGiudice <— loving pete right now

Skylar & Grace ‏@QueenzOfMedia
@PeteGiudice speaking of hog, I want some sausages!

Pete Giudice ‏@PeteGiudice
@QueenzOfMedia get me your address and I’ll send you a few when their ready.
7:03 AM – 5 Feb 13

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According to @FauxRealityEnt, RHONJ storylines are now being dictated by Twitter for damage control and spin. Also according to Faux, who supposedly attended the Milania Hair Care launch party, someone named Mario Petris (@MarioPetris) was at the party while Bravo was taping, and the entire night was a discussion about Twitter.

“@JohnnyTheGrk I hope everything went well with @PDKhair at the launch =D.” – Sunshine ‏(@Sunshine1335), February 19, 2013, Twitter

“@Sunshine1335 @PDKhair She came back in one piece. Lol” – John Karagiorgis ‏(@JohnnyTheGrk), February 19, 2013, Twitter

“Great night penny was safe lol @JohnnyTheGrk” – Mario Petris ‏(@MarioPetris), February 19, 2013, Twitter

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The following are tweets from/to Faux about how Twitter is dictating RHONJ storylines.

Summer ‏@Summerdream01
@CurrituckKim I only know what I’ve been reading..good friend of the Giudices but fan of the Marcos.He’s been trashing Faux & loving QOM ODD

Sunshine ‏@Sunshine1335
@Summerdream01 @CurrituckKim u got to understand that he is a family friend who want peace, for the sake of the grandparents!!

Summer ‏@Summerdream01
You’re being played @Sunshine1335 He loves QOM. Something fishy here. He even got you to attack Faux….a loyal Tre fan.

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@Summerdream01 @Sunshine1335 BULLSHIT! @Franksabean has stirred most every fight then calls mutual friends to shut me the fuck up!
3:09 p.m. – Feb 19, 2013

Summer ‏@Summerdream01
@FauxRealityEnt @jenbradleylopez Well he must hate Teresa & Juicy if he is friends with her enemies & trashing her loyal fans.

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
Reconciliation in Feb 4, 2013 posting: http://fauxrealityentertainment.com/reality-stars-dangers-of-twitter/ … Drinking word is “twitter” at last nite’s filming #RHONJ

Summer ‏@Summerdream01
@jenbradleylopez @fauxrealityent Either this guy is a plant or the stupidest idiot on the earth. Antagonize fans & kiss up to haters?
Retweeted by Faux Reality Ent
2:45 p.m. – Feb 19, 2013

Summer ‏@Summerdream01
@FauxRealityEnt @jenbradleylopez @franksabean LOL..I think this is so ignorant. It makes no sense. We can love Tre & think she is wrong too.

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@Summerdream01 @jenbradleylopez jailbird @franksabean calls mutual friend 2 delete my tweets but his groupie is ok pic.twitter.com/b4qKhn7p

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@MarioPetris Hey @BellaDee_NJ, have you met Mario? He was at the #RHONJ filming last night!

Drea D ‏@BellaDee_NJ
@FauxRealityEnt did @MarioPetris work at the bagel shop on a main road in the town you living in? Don’t mention town! @bulldog_nj @murfdog21

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
#Shocker Guess who questions me about who I support & motivations? It’s the jailbird @Franksabean & his butt buddy pic.twitter.com/bt4tutGz

Summer ‏@Summerdream01
@FauxRealityEnt LOL…not the plumber again! Evidently he gets around. The show is becoming a Trainwreck anyway.

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@Summerdream01 Entire night of filming #RHONJ was a discussion about twitter.

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@Summerdream01 Damage Control and Spin. Storylines are now being dictated by Twitter
1:39 p.m. – Feb 19, 2013

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@MarioPetris Hey @BellaDee_NJ, have you met Mario? He was at the #RHONJ filming last night!
1:36 p.m. – Feb 19, 2013

Summer ‏@Summerdream01
@FauxRealityEnt I’m beginning to think there’s lots going on here. New accts tweeting 24/7 with old RHONJ retweets like a job. #BravoPlant

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
Apparently I don’t SUPPORT certain housewives enough for some fanatics, so I’ll have the tattoo removed from my ass #TakeAWalk

VintageHippie ‏@VintageHippie_
@FauxRealityEnt tell em to suck it. You don’t kiss hw butt you keep it real!
Retweeted by Faux Reality Ent
1:21 p.m. – Feb 19, 2013

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@Summerdream01 I must immediately turn in my Teresa Fan Club membership card for my treason type tweets!

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
FauxRealityEnt predicted reconciliation weeks ago. #RHONJ Defenders betrayed

doreen ‏@dox3jm
@FauxRealityEnt doesn’t Teresa realize that Melissa is the type of person that will do this again once she gets what she wants?

Faux Reality Ent ‏@FauxRealityEnt
@dox3jm D, I think Teresa can’t see past speaking to her brother. Unfortunately she is willing to sacrifice anyone and anything to do it

SUPER T FAN ‏@becandgus
@franksabean hey Frank :-) long time no tweet… Anyway glad to tweet you again :-)

“Teresa does love her brother (at least her brother from years ago) and she wants to mend the family for her parents’ sake. Sr Gorga is not well and may not have many more years left. In my opinion, Teresa and her close family are distancing themselves from anyone trying to bring Lookers and Fredo down just so that she will not be blamed once again. Fredo and Teresa are talking, and Lookers is acting like the good wife and forgiving Teresa for her husband’s sake. Don’t worry, this will not last. Lookers will once again try to stab Teresa in the back but Teresa is smart enough now to not fall for it. Personally, I hope that Lookers’ past does come out on the screen, in magazines and everywhere, but I don’t want Teresa used just to get the information out there. I hope that Faux and JTG find a way to get the information into the pubic eye without Teresa.” – oldnjlady, February 19, 2013, Fame-Whorgas

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RumorFix spoke exclusively to the man in the middle, Joe Gorga, who says, “It’s a dirty situation right now.” He says the women agreed to do another season of RHONJ together, but, “they are not in a good place.” Joe tells us fans will see pictures of Melissa and Teresa posing together, but they are only doing photo ops (like one for a Milania Hair Care event on February 18) for the show. “We’re family,” an emotional Joe tells RumorFix exclusively. “She’s my blood, my sister … My heart is always open for her. When she’s really ready, without any of the bulls**t, I’m waiting for her.” – Joe Gorga Exclusive: Melissa Gorga & Teresa Giudice Did Not Make Up!, February 20, 2013, RumorFix

Teresa Giudice, Joe Giudice, Joe Gorga and Melissa Gorga attended the Milania Professional Hair Care Launch Party at Stone House at Stirling Ridge on February 18, 2013 in Warren, New Jersey (Kim D, Penny Drossos, Jennifer Dalton and Priscialla DiStasio also attended; the Wakiles, Manzos and Lauritas did not attend). The Giudices and Gorgas were photographed together with smiles on their faces, although Melissa’s smile looks forced. Click here for more photos.

“#confirmations just heard from @Teresa_Giudice all is good w her joe and Melissa now!! Yay!! #rhonj” – Mr. Housewife ‏@realmrhousewife, February 16, 2013, Twitter

With Melissa’s past coming back to haunt her, the two families are presenting a united front, but there never will be lasting peace in the Gorga family as long as Melissa is a part of it. Just the other day the Marco clan was retweeting the RumorFix article that blamed Teresa for Melissa’s cheating scandal.

“Wendy Williams Goes Off on ‘Jersey Housewives’ – Wait til you hear what she said! READ HERE: RumorFix http://bit.ly/VVFeTg” – Retweeted by Melissa Gorga, February 15, 2013

Jersey_Girl posted a comment at Fame-Whorgas on February 20, 2013, describing what happened at the Milania launch party — I talked to my source, and the source confirms what Jersey_Girl said. Here is Jersey_Girl’s comment:

“I was at the event with Penny’s party and can say Penny served the Gorgas with plenty. Joe and Melissa were scared to say a word. No, Mario wasn’t there as a bodyguard — that was said as a Danielle Staub joke. Mario is High School friends with Penny and Johnny and was there with his girlfriend. We all jumped in the limo and went to event from Penny’s house. Actually joked about Mario playing bodyguard.

“There was plenty of action at the event and Penny was in control. Melissa and Joe shit when Penny went up to them. Funny thing was they kept complaining about Johnny’s twitter. It was hilarious.

“Yea, there was a reconciliation, but you’ll never guess with who.

“There were no pictures of Penny with the others because Penny refused to take picturess with any of them except the pictures she took with us, her real friends. They tried to ambush Penny and once she opened her mouth they all backed up because Penny had others at the event ready to jump in at any time. Penny was ready for everyone, and they realized it when they saw the faces behind her ready to jump in. They all looked like deers in headlights and shit the floor. Lol.”

My source says the reconciliation was not between Melissa and Teresa or between the two Joes. Apparently, the producers wanted Melissa and Joe to confront Penny about the phone call she placed to Mike (a friend of Bryan Bowen‘s and Penny’s husband, John), who told Teresa that Melissa cheated on Joe with Bryan for five or six years, starting almost from the beginning of her marriage. But Penny knew a confrontation was planned so she had people there at every table, some (including an old boyfriend and an old girlfriend of Melissa’s) who could confirm what Mike told Teresa during the phone call at the Holiday Posche Fashion Show on December 3, 2012, and this is why Melissa chickened out. The producers told Penny to go up to Melissa and Joe, and when she did, Teresa came in the middle of them and begged Penny to quash it with Melissa. Penny agreed to a reconciliation as long as Melissa and her minions stopped with the threats and outbreaks on Twitter against Penny’s family… and if she reneges on the promise, the game is on!

So my source tells a different story than the source for AllThingsRH, whose insider told her:

Bravo DID film the event! The plan for the evening was that Joe Gorga was going to confront Penny Drossos about the cheating scandal surrounding Bryan “Bulldog” Bowen and his wife, Melissa. Joe and Melissa were also going to attempt to make peace with Teresa at the launch. “When Joe was going to confront Penny, Teresa was going to confirm that Penny was the one that told her about Bulldog and Penny was going to be portrayed as the desperate trouble maker who is trying to do anything to get on TV,” our insider reveals. Our source reveals that when Joe went to approach Penny, he chickened out! “When Joe went up to Penny she was waiting to blast him, because she had her body-builder friend, Mario, there with her to protect her. Instead he asked where her husband Johnny The Greek was,” our source explains, and Penny told Joe that Johnny was working. “So even though Penny was basically ordered by Bravo to be at the event, their plans for the set up failed!” Who was going to set who up this time? “It was a double cross,” our insider explains.

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  1. February 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    If Melissa and Joe are doing this for show, it will come back to bite them. I really believe Melissa came on the show and thought she would be not only the NJ favorite wife, but the favorite HW in the series history. It did not work. Nothing the Gorga’s tried worked.

    In a last ditch effort to increase her popularity I believe she will try to imitate Teresa in each and every way.

    • Ana-Capri
      February 19, 2013 at 8:34 PM

      She is absolutly delusional. I am still hoping for a happy ending-but it doesn’t look good.

    • February 19, 2013 at 9:46 PM

      ya she wants to b like T because T is younger & prettier & a happier gal . . And she problay wants to b like T because T has a hubby that runs other woman & does not have a voice to sing with .Let’s c what else would Melissa b jealous of T over .well that about sum’s it up .BA HA HA HA .Melissa has more fan’s then T does .A lot of ppl follow Melissa ,heck I think more r following Kathy now then T .

      • Jeannie5233
        February 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM

        Um, Dee check it out – Tre has more followers on Facebook than either Melissa or Kathy – know your facts before you spew.

        • JennyS
          February 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM

          Know your facts, AND know how to spell them.

          • Monique
            February 20, 2013 at 6:05 PM

            Thank you. I’ve been saying this to Dee months ago. How much do the Gorga’s pay you to post their lies on blogs? $0.05 a comment? In total they owe $5.15. What a proud fan you are.

      • February 19, 2013 at 10:10 PM

        Tre — successes Fabillini; Milania; Cookbooks … Melissa — successes um none

      • February 19, 2013 at 10:17 PM

        I follow Melissa, (on computer) and your point Dee?

      • ale
        February 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM

        I also follow MeGo and she follows me back, but hell no, I’m not even close to being her fan! Mego might be younger but T is much prettier. Mego obviously didn’t feel pretty enough, that’s why she got all that plastic surgery done.

      • JUST ME
        February 20, 2013 at 1:40 AM

        SORRY TO BREAK THE NEWS TO YOU DEE BUT TERESA WAS VOTED THE MOST POPULAR HOUSEWIFE ON ALL THE HOUSE WIFE SHOWS JUST YESTERDAY…..
        WHAT DID MELISSA COME IN AT??? 9th…12th……18th WAY WAY BEHIND TERESA…THE PROOF IS THERE…NOT IN HOW MANY FOLLOWERS YOU BUY AT TWITTER…

        • hwcrazygal
          February 20, 2013 at 4:13 AM

          Fake followers don’t vote…real followers do!

          • Ana-Capri
            February 20, 2013 at 8:29 AM

            Bingo!

      • RahRah
        February 20, 2013 at 8:28 AM

        1. I don’t follow fools..Melissa is a damned fool. I am observing how the women spend their time, useful or foolishly. Teresa ain’t got the time with four girls to waste spending her time foolishly. Meanwhile, poor dumb ass Melissa spends her time foolishly practicing bitchcraft and trying to one up Teresa. That is the thing I guess I like about Teresa she is comfortable in her own skin while some women are trying to be like someone else. Melissa needs her own original idea because the idea that she can change public perception of her or portray Teresa maliciously isn’t working and it isn’t working Dee because a lot of people actually are intelligent enoug

        • RahRah
          February 20, 2013 at 8:30 AM

          contd.

          to see the patterns and understand what Melissa is trying to do and she has been hard at it and to me that is spending ones time foolishly. Meanwhile, Teresa continues to obviously look forward she is the one building a future and learning from her past. I can’t stand a dumb woman.

      • Monique
        February 20, 2013 at 6:00 PM

        You know what annoys me about you? You try so hard to be politically correct and you can’t even take the time spell out simple words. You are hilarious. Melissa can NOT sing. Point blank period. Can you count how many times she has said “How many times…” in her song “How Many Times”? I thought that song was scratched when that song was recorded. Melissa has a causal singing voice. She can’t even dance. She’s a joke. It’s pretty clear your blind because Melissa wanted Teresa’s limelight before she even entered the show and Danielle pretty much called Melissa out on her sneaky, vindictive ways. Please stop w/ your lies Dee. You are as delunsional as Melissa paid fan base. PLEASE fetch a clue.

      • February 20, 2013 at 9:38 PM

        I was not aware that they allowed women to use computers in correctional facilities.

        • February 20, 2013 at 9:55 PM

          Love, love that doggie and your comment is so funny.

        • Monique
          February 21, 2013 at 3:54 AM

          Hahaha! Is that pic of a Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier? If so, I have the very same dog.

      • RahRah
        February 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM

        Excuse but where is your husband?

        Damn you sound like Melissa’s lesbian lover, are you? I think you wish you were Teresa. Girl you got it bad, real bad. Teresa has driven you over the edge, get yourself some help, professional help.

      • RahRah
        February 22, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        Are you mad 1) because Joe Guidice rejected you or 2) Teresa took Joe from you? Which is it?

      • February 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        aww but doesnt it suck, that ter is older yet 10000x’s more hotter, gorgeous and sexy than Mel wil ever be? & obviously Ter is happier, just compare their twitters..whos tweeting happy and who’s tweeting hate??
        Its crystal Clear

    • LilyM
      February 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM

      Hi girls, and boys? Go vote for Teresa, it says the contest is over by monday the 25th !! I voted and she is in 1st place, the other HWONJ are nowhere in the list… LOL

      http://ryanseacrest.com/2013/02/19/semi-finals-whos-your-favorite-housewife-vote/

  2. Anonymous
    February 19, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    If they really are doing so well, why Tweet the wendy williams article a few days ago that is basically bashing Tre? It didn’t really make a difference though, EVERY comment on that article was bashing Messy, the stupid girl that she is.

  3. lilly
    February 19, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Someone really needs to warn Teresa!Teresa is going to be played again,and Melissa face does look forced,she is not happy!That is just too bad MeGo!Too bad!!!!
    Like Bravo did before in season 4,take the events out of order and make it like Teresa switch things around.Everyone was getting along,and then BAM Melissa gets setup.

    • RahRah
      February 20, 2013 at 8:30 AM

      Oh, she is happy, she is on display.

    • February 21, 2013 at 4:22 PM

      Sounds like Teresa ISN’T falling for it. Sounds like she’s trying hard not to give them anything to use against her. That’s the impression I got from this blog anyway.

  4. Jeannie5233
    February 19, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    I believe the Giudices and the Gorgas are taking their covered wagons and pulling in a circle to protect family secrets. With all the skeletons coming out of Melissa’s closet, Teresa will “take one for the team” and allow herself to be used as a scapegoat once again in order to protect her family, especially her parents.

    She is willing to sacrifice everything, including her own survival, in order to protect her family, including her brother and sister-in-law. This has got to be extremely difficult for her especially with her husband possibly facing jail time.

    The sad thing is after she loses her fan base, sees her brand go in the toilet, her credibility destroyed, and she becomes the laughingstock of Bravo, Joe and Melissa will finally have succeeded in accomplishing what they set out to do and they will enjoy it – not appreciate what Teresa has done for them.

    Melissa and Joe Gorga have always been POSs and will continue to be. They will stab her in the back again.

    • Ana-Capri
      February 19, 2013 at 8:32 PM

      I hope it doesn’t end that way Jeannie!

      • Jeannie5233
        February 19, 2013 at 8:43 PM

        I hope so too Ana-Capri, but I fear that it will. With all the stuff coming out about Melissa; the Twitter wars that are going on where Tre fans are turning on one and other; and her parents, especially her ill father uppermost on her mind, Teresa truly believes in her heart that “Friends will come and go but family is forever”.

        What is ironic is that some of her fans will turn against her for Teresa being what they have admired her for – a woman who has strong family values and will do anything, including pretty much destroying herself, to protect that family.

        Pity is it will not be appreciated or ever reciprocated by her weasel brother or skank sister-in-law. They will be like cats who swallowed the canary. And the mainstream public will be none the wiser.

        • February 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM

          Jeannie, by the way I enjoyed your post on the previous subject so much, it inspired me to look into becoming an editor at Bravo. lol

          I hope this is not what will happen. I have lived almost 60 years and I have seen this little Miss Karma at work. I do not think she will give the Gorgas a free pass.

          Joe told off his sister a few weeks ago, now all is well? All in the Bravo contract? Perhaps. The tide has completely turned against Melissa and Joe. They know this and Bravo knowes this. Not one of their endeavors have paid off. I believe more people are reading the blogs and following all of them on Twitter. I would have never believed I would be a blog reader, oh that Season 3 was it. Season 3 had be asking so many questions, Season 4 even more. Twitter playing a hand in this, Melissa’s discretions revealed in supermarket magazines, all very interesting. In my opinion, the Bravo damage control is, well, out of control. It just does not seem to be working.

          Word to Melissa, changing your Zip Code will not keep Miss Karma from finding you.

          Jeannie your quote, “Friends will come and go but family is forever”, in my circle it is said, “The bond that links your true family is not one of blood, but of respect and joy in each other’s life.”– Richard Bach

          Season 5 will be very interesting, to say the least.

          • Jeannie5233
            February 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM

            Actually, from personal experience I love your quote for it really is more what I have in my life now. Some of my friends have been far more supportive of me and my mom than certain family members. Thanks for sharing that and I will hold it in my heart. XO

            • February 19, 2013 at 10:43 PM

              You are so welcome. Just to let you know, I so, so totally respect your opinions. You are one wise lady, Jeannie.

          • Ana-Capri
            February 19, 2013 at 11:26 PM

            Wonderful comment! This is exactly how I feel also-I too never in million years thought I would be watching a reality show, reading blogs and even commenting-but there is something special about New Jersey-well there was at one time. I hope that Juicy stops drinking and that Teresa gets her own show-a fun family cooking/reality show. Far away from Bravo

          • February 20, 2013 at 5:48 AM

            I never in a millon years thought I’d be contributing to a blog. It really isn’t my style but you guys are right. Something about this show really stirred a sense of right and wrong and justice in me. I was compelled to air my feelings towards it and I’m in the game! I understand it is dramality. I understand the editing process and the camera coverage and there is a part of me that hopes Teresa is in on it, that the Gorga/Giudices have fooled us but there is an innocence in Teresa….

            • Ana-Capri
              February 20, 2013 at 8:26 AM

              Very well stated sweet Sackem!! I am really hopeful that all turns out well for Teresa, I also believe she has been ambushed more than once. Enjoy that baby! :-)

    • February 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM

      No skeletons just a bunch of lie’s & no one that follows Melissa believe any of the trash this site is throwing .

      • Jeannie5233
        February 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

        It’s not just this site Dee – It is EVERYWHERE! Get your head out of Melissa’s ass and you will be able to see some light and smell some fresh air.

      • Ana-Capri
        February 19, 2013 at 11:27 PM

        Oh we all know that Melissa has a pretty shady past.

      • SolarMoon
        February 20, 2013 at 1:45 AM

        you believe everything this site says Dee, you always in the comment section, why don’t you delete this trash site from your computer , go read queenz of media site.

      • Monique
        February 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM

        You are very attached to this site Dee. Deep down inside you know Melissa isn’t a good person. You cling onto this site to make invalid points and get slaughtered each and every time. You are just as demented as your super-villain Melissa Whorga. I’m sure you’re wearing a cape swinging from
        A stripper pole as we speak.

        • February 20, 2013 at 9:44 PM

          Mind bleach, please.

    • JUST ME
      February 20, 2013 at 1:48 AM

      YES THE GORGAS ARE ONLY PLAYING UP TO TERESA TO TRY TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK GOOD, IT IS A GAME WITH THEM, THEY REALLY DO NOT CARE WHO GETS HURT THOUGH, TERESA WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR HER FAMILY AND SADLY IF JOE DOES GO TO JAIL HER BROTHER JOE WILL NOT HELP HER AT ALL, HE WON’T BE THERE FOR HER AND IF HE DOES IT IS FOR THE SHOW, SO THEY CAN SAY SEE NO MATTER WHAT TERESA DID WE STAND BY HER, IT IS ONLY AN ACT, AS MUCH AS A CREEPY TRAMP MELISSA IS, JOE GORGA IS A MILLION TIMES WORSE A
      PERSON TO DO THIS TO HIS OWN SISTER AND PARENTS, HE SAYS SUCH CRUEL AND HURTFUL THINGS, REALLY THE MAN IS GARBAGE

      • Anonymous
        February 20, 2013 at 6:22 AM

        I think he will help, but he will throw it in her face and make her feel bad like he did at her book signing. He is a SPOS. Meho will love it…

        • Bxbombshell
          February 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM

          Help her with what? He doesn’t have a pot to piss in. It’s more like he and MeHo will try to help themselves to her money and success. sycophants! I have a feeling that Juicy even from Jail will not let that happen.

      • Monique
        February 20, 2013 at 6:16 PM

        I agree Joe isn’t a good son, brother, father, uncle, god father. He is a HORRIBLE person and will put his wife first before his own kids.

    • RahRah
      February 20, 2013 at 8:32 AM

      remember, this is why Teresa did not want to deal with her family joining the show–their many issues. I can see the cousins and brother just hating the fact that Teresa was on a national tv show, how dare she, we all know Melissa is the fabulous one in the family. And that is how this shit started..

      • Monique
        February 20, 2013 at 6:19 PM

        Yup! I think Richie is more jealous of Teresa than his own wife. Kathy reacts to EVERYTHING her meddling husband says to her about Teresa. I still believe he has a thing for her and is upset that Teresa never gave his disgusting ass a chance.

    • Buck Henry
      February 20, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      Your 100% right, big time. When both teams are pulling together it’s a sign that there are some major and I do mean major secrets that she don’t want out in public, and I don’t think it all has to do with her brother either. I totally believe the allegation, totally and the only way Bryan would have known that is if one he knew the girl from college (no way) or two Melissa told him when they where together. There may be one big reason that they are circling the wagons, and it had to do with a comment on allabouttrh.com last week.

      When this issue came up last week a commenter on the blog said that the way that Teresa is so close to her brother and such make it seems that she may have slept with him (and they didn’t say it as nicely as I’m trying to say it now). And then I remember from this site and fauxreality site about someone in an article saying how some in production didn’t like Teresa because she seems off mentally. And then take into account how she seems to dress the way her brother likes and it hit me that commenter may have been right.

      They are circling the wagons because of major secrets.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM

        I think that what that commenter over at Allabouttrh is saying is something that absolutely should not be propagated around and squashed immediately. That heinous comment should never have been made – it is, by far, inflammatory and reckless. I think it is also risky bringing alleged rape charges up; that’s bad enough. But to suggest what that commenter is alluding to – well,that is beyond human decency, without anything to back it up.

        • Babs
          February 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM

          I strongly agree, Jeannie

        • February 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM

          Jeannie, That comment sent me over the edge. Thumbs up

        • February 20, 2013 at 7:35 PM

          I agree with you Jeannie. I remember seeing a picture of Joe and Teresa. She was dressed as though she was going to a Junior prom perhaps and he was in a baseball uniform. In my opinion they seem to be at least 4 or 5 years apart if not more. Seeing the way Teresa nurtures her own girls, I believe Teresa nurtured Joe when he was growing up. I believed she even mentioned that, she was like another mother to him.

          • gemini82
            February 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM

            In season three, teresa had mentioned that when they were growing up, she and juicy would play family with them as the mommy and daddy and joey and maria would be their children. Teresa’s problem is that she still sees joey as her baby and not as a grown man. She has blinders on when it comes to joey. She blames melissa for everything because she just cant bring herself to believe that her baby brother would go out of his way to hurt her. She needs to take her blinders off and realize that her brother is garbage. Sure he might not have always been like that ,but he is that way now, and all the blame cannot be put on melissa.

      • Monique
        February 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM

        I think Jacqueline opened up those doors about Teresa being obsessed w/ her brother and probably wanted to sleep w/ him and what not. During the reunion Teresa stated how she found out her brother was a stripper from catching him in a g-string or something like that and Jacqueline made that snide comment “She probably smelled all his underwear!”. Jacqueline is the ONLY one on that show who is mental. Teresa has had 4 kids trust me we would of seen her mental ways once she gave birth to Milania. They’re all obsessed w: Teresa its amusing.

        • February 20, 2013 at 7:20 PM

          Monique I remember now. I feel much better.

        • Jeannie5233
          February 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM

          Anti-Tre people have made comments about Teresa and her relationship with her brother well before the reunion, saying things about it being “abnormal” or hinting at it being other than brother/sister.

          My Mother-in-law was the oldest of 5 – she helped her mother raise the rest of them and until the day she died, she was overprotective of every single one of her siblings, especially her baby brother whom she adored.

          To suggest something of this nature is SICK – plain and simple – and anyone who talks like that should get their mind out of the gutter.

          • Monique
            February 21, 2013 at 3:48 AM

            I have heard it a couple of times before the reunion but once I heard Jacqueline make that statement I saw many people making jokes about Teresa being obsessed w/ her brother in a sick way.

          • February 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM

            thank you ms jeannie

        • fbunnie
          February 22, 2013 at 6:58 AM

          Jaqueline is a serious piece of uncultured swine. She is disgusting and it really ticks me off to see the amount of bs this woman gets away with. What a nasty remark that was!

          • Monique
            February 23, 2013 at 6:35 AM

            Yeah it was. When she said Melissa, Caroline, and Kathy cackled like they were high school bullies. Jacqueline is garbage she plays the victim way too much and she’s very two faces and has serious mental problems. I’m still waiting for this mistress of Chris to come out.

      • February 20, 2013 at 9:46 PM

        Aw, c’mon….. That’s a bit of a stretch for a good catholic girl. What a disgusting theory.

    • Silvan
      February 21, 2013 at 3:56 AM

      I truly hope that this season they tell the truth about Melissa and Joe Gorga and don’t edit things to make them the victims. Teresa and Juicey’s problems are out for all to see so why should these assholes be hidden behind editing. Make it a even playing field I say:-)

  5. February 19, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    I can’t believe how trim Joe Guidice looks. I remember he and Tre doing their talk about slim-downs and work-outs…getting healthy. Clearly, it was more than just “talk.”

    • Anonymous
      February 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM

      juicy is looking juicy again.

    • gemini82
      February 19, 2013 at 9:19 PM

      juicy is looking juicy again

      • popsy
        February 20, 2013 at 4:23 AM

        I think that he looked so awful before was the booze, obviously drinking a lot because of the stress and frustration and because he’d screwed up. I’m glad he’s looking so much better now, and I hope that means he’s dealing better with everything and that he and tre are happy and that the result of that is that he doesn’t have to abuse alcohol anymore.. She certainly looks good and happy in those pictures and she deserves too. I see a lot of good reports of her books and her hair care, and those are very difficult worlds to be successful in. Good for them.

        • Anonymous
          February 20, 2013 at 6:30 AM

          Juicy is lucky he has a LOVING wife by his side..

          • Jeannie5233
            February 20, 2013 at 9:06 AM

            Just helps support the validity of vows in a marriage – support one and other through thick and thin; and in good times and bad. While mistakes are made, the ability to work through them together will make that marriage stronger.

  6. Ana-Capri
    February 19, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Watch your back Teresa-watch your back. I think the Gorgas are almost broke now, Melissa is an absolute fake. She would sell her Sisters for $2 if she thought it would buy her fame.I also think that the Lauritas are almost out of money also.

  7. February 19, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    I personally hope they are able to find a place for each other in their lives where the Sr. Gorga’s and cousins can be together without the fighting. I hope that they can be civil for this reason. However, unless Melissa calls off her sisters and the QOM I don’t see that ever truly happening.

    • February 19, 2013 at 10:19 PM

      I worry about the cousins also. I know how much my own cousins mean to me.

      • February 19, 2013 at 11:04 PM

        Yes I adore my cousins. We are scattered across the US and some have dropped off the face of the planet due to drugs and family issues, but we all love and support each other. I’m an only child and my daughter’s only “cousins” are my cousins 2 children. The adore each other. I would never interfere in them spending time together and trust me my cousin’s wife has put me in that situation.

        • February 19, 2013 at 11:22 PM

          How interesting, I am also an only adopted child, who viewed my cousins as “sisters and brothers”. We are all still close and still live nearby. There is not a holiday that we do not visit or call each other. We all bonded at MawMaw’s and still share so many secrets. Oh dear, the things we did while our mothers were helping MawMaw cook.

    • Anonymous
      February 20, 2013 at 6:41 AM

      I don’t know if it would be genuine by all (I would not blame Juicy for holding a grudge) because Meho is an evil, self-centered, subhuman bitch; just like her evil sisters. I secretly give them credit for going after what they want, but will never reward their bad behavior using Teresa thinking they are so entitled to a free ride.

  8. chebella
    February 19, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    For all of you that insist on trashing Melissa and Joe Go., the truth is, they all know that if one goes down, they all do. They are tied in with business, and family. When you are Italian, (not American) even your cousin can shame you. You are not separate from your brother- or his wife. At least not while your parents are alive. So, this whole blog site does go against everything St. Teresa believes in her heart and soul. The family is only as strong as its weakest link. That is what is so stupid about this whole thing. You do not support Teresa when you trash her family—which includes, MeHo, and Kathy, etc… such a waste of time, in terms of what matters to the Guidice/Gorga families. They wake up every day SICK, when they are estranged.

    • Ana-Capri
      February 19, 2013 at 9:35 PM

      I’m not so sure about this-I think we can support Teresa and at the same time call Melissa and Joey out on their horrible actions.

    • Jeannie5233
      February 19, 2013 at 9:47 PM

      Yes, they are Italian. Yes, they believe in Family First. However, I am married into an Italian family; grew up in an Italian/Irish community; and have surrounded myself with Italian friends all my life, some Italian, as well as 1st and 2nd generation. And I can tell you, in my experience, they are all capable of fighting; holding grudges; carrying out vendettas; and not speaking for years, if not till their dying day.

      Sons are not easily forgiven for betraying the family honor and Brothers do not betray Sisters – it goes against the culture.

      • Anonymous
        February 20, 2013 at 6:50 AM

        It goes against human nature for a brother to treat his sister like Teresa has been treated. Someone/others stroked one’s ego and brainwashed him to turn against his family. Teresa will continue to work hard to get what she wants, who she loves, forcing others to be left on the curb.

    • Babs
      February 19, 2013 at 9:56 PM

      My husband was raised in Italy, his mother and most of his family still live there. The fact is, Italians are certainly capable of cheating , stealing from, lying to, defrauding, betraying, and generally abusing family without any shame. Good character or bad character is not epitomized by any ethnic group or nationality. The human race is made up of all kinds of people. This pb oto doesn’t prove Teresa is trying to protect her family’s honor. Also, she never contradicts her husband”s comments about her brother and Meho.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 19, 2013 at 9:58 PM

        ITA!!!!!

      • chebella
        February 19, 2013 at 10:37 PM

        The point everyone continues to miss, is that the family can have these issues among themselves, but no one else better have them. So, I can hold a grudge, but you, as my friend or a fan, better not. I will defend my family against YOU. This whole process rips Teresa apart. It does not serve her when you all agree with her, or RIP her family. I would love to honestly ask about this issue. She may not like Meho, but she’s not going to stand by you if you trash her. And yes, she will stay silent when her husband speaks.

        • yup
          February 19, 2013 at 10:57 PM

          True of most people, not just italians. In high school I might complain about my mom to my friends and say “she’s such a bitch right now” but if any of my friends would have called her a bitch, I would have kicked their asses. I can call her a bitch because she’s MINE and I know I love her.
          Using high school as an example because I would never call my mom a bitch now, but when you’re a dumb teenager, it’s different.

        • Jeannie5233
          February 19, 2013 at 11:01 PM

          That may hold true in Teresa’s family but not necessarily in others. And I would also like to point out if that is true, and it may very well be, then what you are basically saying is that while Teresa is loyal to her family, she is not to her fans. I would go back and read Teresa’s Bravo blogs – they certainly let her fans know exactly what she thinks of her sister-in-law. Were those all made for the sole purpose to drum up fan sympathy and support? I don’t think so – I believe those feelings were and still are very real.

          If it weren’t for blogs such as this one and others Teresa would not have the fan base she has. If it weren’t for her fans, Teresa would still be in quite a bit of debt today. They have stood by her and supported her through thick and thin. So, then based on what you say, she will turn her back on that. Then I guess she is in a LOSE/LOSE situation, isn’t she?!

          • Jeannie5233
            February 19, 2013 at 11:08 PM

            P.S. Please do not misunderstand me – Teresa should do what she can to salvage her relationship with her brother and try to mend her family – of course, I wish Teresa and her family well and that they can get past all of the pain -I only hope that the intentions are pure on all sides – not just hers.

            • JUST ME
              February 21, 2013 at 11:58 PM

              JEANNIE I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT CAN MAKE UP AND ALL GET ALONG, PUT THE PAST IN THE PAST …….BUT…I TRUELY DOUBT MELISSA WOULD EVER STICK TO HER WORD IN THIS, AS LONG AS SHE IS IN THIS FAMILY THERE WILL ALWAYS BE TROUBLE, HER JEALOUSLY TOWARDS TERESA WILL ALWAYS BE THERE AND JOE GORGA IS A WEAK LITTLE MAN, HE CAN’T SEE PAST TARZAN, SOMETIMES THERE ARE PEOPLE YOU LOVE IN YOUR FAMILY BUT THE ARE TOXIC TO YOU, IF TERESA
              DOESN’T CUT TIES TO JOE AND MELISSA THEY WILL NOT ONLY DESTROY TERESA AND HER PARENTS, THEY WILL DESTROY THE GUICICE CHILDREN AS WELL. I AM SURE THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR TERESA OR HER PARENTS OR HER MARRIAGE OR HER CHILDREN…..TERESA IS THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT WILL ALWAYS CHASE JOES LOVE BUT SHE WILL NEVER GET IT FROM HIM

        • gemini82
          February 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM

          chebella, does that mentality apply to joey, melissa, and kathy? They didn’t defend teresa when others were badmouthing her. In fact they encouraged it and joined in. I agree with your concept. My dislike of joey, melissa and kathy stem from the fact that they clearly don’t have the same concept of family as you, teresa, and most of us have. They have no problem putting teresa’s problems out there (i.e. danielle/melissa), they have no problem putting her down( i.e. melissa “we pay our bills”, kathy implying that teresa is stupid). This and more is why I have no trouble trashing joey, melissa, and kathy because they have no trouble trashing teresa.

          • Jeannie5233
            February 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM

            Excellent point – The difference between Teresa and the others? Teresa cares about them and how all this bad news about Melissa is coming out is affecting her parents and the rest of the family. The others could give a damn – all they care about is themselves, and how they can spin damage control to continue to get what they can out of their 15 minutes.

            Melissa, Joey, and Kathy’s behavior on the Reunion, in public on international TV for ALL the world to see, spoke volumes towards how badly they feel being estranged from the family – Not!! Disgusting – Rosie threatening to cut tongues out and Kathy saying derogatory things about her elderly aunt and uncle with no respect – Disgusting. So much for family loyalty.

            • Jeannie5233
              February 19, 2013 at 11:57 PM

              And Joey just sat there – not a word – not one freakin’ word to his cousin to tell her to shut her mouth for speaking that way about his own mother and father. He just sat there allowing her to trash the people who gave him life – what a disgrace he is!!!

              I’m not Italian but you better believe I would NEVER let ANYONE ever speak to or about my parents that way NO MATTER what the circumstances were – No excuses for it whatsoever!!

              • gemini82
                February 20, 2013 at 12:52 AM

                Some son he is. No wonder the gorga sr. seem to prefer juicy over joey.

              • JUST ME
                February 20, 2013 at 2:09 AM

                JEANNIE….I WAS SO SHOCKED WHEN JOE OR MELISSA SAID NOTHING WHEN KATHY CALLED MRS GORGA AN F ING LIAR AND SHE CALLED MR GORGA A COWARD, THEY SAID NOTHING….TO ME THAT SHOWS THEY HAVE NO FEELINGS TOWARDS THE PARENTS OTHER THEN JOE SCREAMING AT THE CHRISTENING YOUR MY FATHR..YOUR MY FATHER….LIKE HE IS A POSESSION, A THING TO OWN….

                • Ana-Capri
                  February 20, 2013 at 8:29 AM

                  You are right they should have come to his defense.

                  • Mom2ACDC
                    February 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM

                    I am not one to EVER, EVER defend Kathy, Joe or Melissa but I wonder if Joe did say something and Bravo edited it out…..I certainly wouldn’t put it past them. If anyone is shadier than Melissa–it’s Bravo.

                    • Ana-Capri
                      February 20, 2013 at 10:19 AM

                      I think it may be tie ;-)

                    • Jeannie5233
                      February 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM

                      I don’t think so – remember, Joe said “You are dead to me.” And Teresa said, as she was crying, “Daddy loves you!”.

        • Babs
          February 19, 2013 at 11:24 PM

          “and yes she will stay silent when her husband speaks” I’m sorry but you are stereotyping Teresa using standards that don’t even exist in Italy.
          Italian women are some of the most vocal on the planet.

        • February 21, 2013 at 4:35 PM

          I may be a fan of Teresa’s, but I’m not going to sacrifice my opinions because of it. I can’t stand Melissa and Joey (heck any of the others in the cast) and I’m not going to pretend to for anyone.

      • February 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM

        well said have been thinking that for quite some time…

      • Anonymous
        February 20, 2013 at 7:01 AM

        ITA

    • February 20, 2013 at 9:53 PM

      Trust me, they don’t need our help. Their actions and words have turned them into human trash all by themselves. It is Teresa shitty brother, who has shamed his sister and family and she is still willing to forgive him. I never would. Some things are unforgivable.

  9. February 19, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    mellissa and poison joe are using teresa and juicy so they will help promote there products,till they sell, then stab them in the back

    • February 19, 2013 at 10:35 PM

      You are so totally correct Lucille, with the Gorga’s mindset, this is just what they think.

      Good thing, their products will NEVER sell, so Teresa and Juicy will be spared the knife. Let us think about this. How many people bought the music CD’s, a few young, mean, whatabee Melissa girls? I more than likely have more money in my washer and dryer at this moment than they do. Now a workout video and a book on a happy marriage? What will sell?

  10. JennyS
    February 19, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Jeez. I must be an idiot. I read thru those tweets twice and I cannot figure out wtf they are all saying. Or who turned on whom.

    • Babs
      February 19, 2013 at 9:40 PM

      Hahaha! I have the same problem!

    • Autumn
      February 19, 2013 at 9:43 PM

      All I got from the tweets was a lot of famewhoring from everyone involved. All jockeying for THEIR slice of famewhore pie. “Oh look at me, over here, read Meee, don’t read Herrr, block him, tweet them, you said, he said, she said..”

      Same ppl EVERY SINGLE DAY. Ick.

      • JennyS
        February 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

        No doubt. Twitter is like the new barhopping for these people. It’s so funny!

    • February 19, 2013 at 9:47 PM

      I think that I am lost too so you are not alone! I know most of the tweets refer to the Frank guy but all of the rest IDK. LOL! I will continue to be a Teresa fan whether she makes amends with her family or not. I can’t really form the opinion that she’s being a fool or doing something wrong based off of Twitter and leaked photos. I mean it was her event, I would like to think that she wouldn’t want any drama there and would want everyone smiling and happy (or at least acting that way). Shrugs…

    • Jeannie5233
      February 19, 2013 at 9:56 PM

      Jenny – you’re not an idiot. Twitter is not easy to follow but I will tell you this. Unfortunately, there are those who are Tre fans who are turning on other Tre fans. There are those who are in Teresa’s camp who are cozying up to QoM. There are those who are just throwing in the towel. It is a confusing, hot mess but one that is really not that important as most of these people are unimportant in the grand scheme of things. They just think they are.

      The bottom line – it is Teresa who is being hurt by all of these Twitter wars – and some of it she has brought on herself whether she wanted to or not because she is protecting her brother and sister-in-law. “Family is everything.”

      • JennyS
        February 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        I can’t follow that QofM thing to save my life either. What you outlined though is entirely plausible – Teresa will protect Joe and they’ll turn on her again. I have family members like this in my immediate family – this is how it always pans out. I saved someone’s life in my damn family (literally) and they still turned on me. I’m the Teresa in my fam..except I put my foot in my mouth less than she does. But I still love her!!!

        • February 21, 2013 at 4:37 PM

          I obviously can’t follow it either because I got an entirely different take on the situation. #confused. (no I don’t tweet)

      • Anonymous
        February 19, 2013 at 10:34 PM

        Hi Jeannie,

        Wow this is getting hard to workout, to be honest Jeannie 2 hours ago I was over the whole RHNJ thinking it isnt real and Bravo have got everyone to turn on each other and are sitting pissing them selves laughing at us. My only wish was T had many ways to let her fans know the family is beginning to mend we all would of thought FANTASTIC but this has got EVIL out there, so many others are out for 15 minutes maybe within family members??????
        Jeannie sorry for the rant but Im confused whether to stay tuned or bail now I hate seeing people get torn down Re Bulldog and some of his close friends???

        Cheers Tassie

        • Jeannie5233
          February 19, 2013 at 10:45 PM

          You know what Tassie – I can really understand your frustration. I believe we are being had once again and manipulated by Bravo.

          Bravo surely has gotten wind of all of the things coming out of the woodwork with Melissa – her past is very quickly catching up to her and Bravo, in order to save the show, is working overtime, trying to do a quick change and stay relevant. If they don’t, their original “story lines” will be stale and obsolete when the time comes for the show to air.

          But, in the end, even with the tweaks and twists, it will all come out the same – Teresa will once again be the villian and Melissa will be the victim.

          The only hope I have for Bryan – that he gets his story out in a legitimate way with foolproof evidence that Bravo cannot touch or tamper with. And that he gets it out BEFORE Season 5 airs. That will throw Bravo into a complete tailspin. Unfortunately, unless Bryan finds the right outlet to tell his story, that will not happen.

          So, sadly, we will not have ‘justice” for Teresa – and Melissa will be sympathized with as the put-upon sister-in-law.

          The only reason I “stay tuned”? Because I can still hope that I am wrong and that Melissa and Joe Gorga will get their comeuppance.

          • Anonymous
            February 19, 2013 at 11:09 PM

            Thanks Jeannie,

            I have decided to stay only on Fames and TRY to not SNOOP on twitter, even deleted out of my favorites it must be the BLOODY mum in me that gets me pissed a little.

            At least we will all have each other to vent too, either way it is played out, I read Joe is now saying his sister will need him I guess it is because court hearing???

            Cheers Tassie

            • Jeannie5233
              February 19, 2013 at 11:12 PM

              The court hearing is this Monday the 25th to decide on a court date if Joe does not plea bargain. So, yes, it is fast approaching.

              • Anonymous
                February 19, 2013 at 11:26 PM

                Jeannie a plea bargain is that when his lawyers will say for example: Joe will do handy work at a retirement home for 12 months and $500 fine and the judge says yes or no.
                sorry for ??? not sure how it works in the states

                Tassie

                • Jeannie5233
                  February 19, 2013 at 11:32 PM

                  The prosecutor will offer Joe a “settlement”, i.e. plead “guilty”, pay a fine, do community service and/or spend less time in jail (this is just an example). If Joe refuses, then the court will go ahead and assign a trial date where Joe, pleading “not guilty” will have to try and prove his “innocence”. At this point, he is vulnerable to maximum punishment. He is being charged with several counts, not just one. If he is found guilty on more than one charge, he could very well spend even more time in jail than the reported ten years. More than likely, though, he would get paroled well before the maximum time sentenced.

                  • Anonymous
                    February 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

                    Oh shit sorry for the swearing but I didnt realise the length he could serve, if you have a prosecutor that was a Melissa fan he is trully in TROUBLE.

                    Thanks Jeannie

                  • Anonymous
                    February 19, 2013 at 11:57 PM

                    Oh shit didnt realise the amount of time Joe could serve, lets hope the prosecutor is not a Manzo Laurita or Melissa Fan

                    Thanks Jeannie

                    • Jeannie5233
                      February 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

                      What is worrisome – the prosecutor is looking to make Joe Giudice an “example”. He’s in for a rough time of it. If he did it, then he deserves punishment. In the wake of 9/11, he should have known better. But regardless, if that is what comes, it will be sad and hard on Teresa and the girls, as well as him.

                  • JUST ME
                    February 22, 2013 at 12:24 AM

                    10 YEARS IS MORE THEN RAPISTS GET….OK IF HE DROVE USING HIS BROTHERS DRIVERS LICENSE HE BROKE THE LAW BUT HE DIDN’T KILL SOMEONE OR RAPE SOMEONE, HE DIDN’T ASSAULT ANYONE

                    • Jeannie5233
                      February 22, 2013 at 6:06 PM

                      Before 9/11 this wouldn’t have been such a big deal. But now it is and Joe certainly did not use his head if he is guilty of this. But I would agree – this crime is nowhere near the severity of rape or murder, yet Joe is probably going to be hung out to dry if found guilty – like I said, he is a public figure and the prosecutor wants to hold him up as an example. Then, of course we have the likes of Lindsay Lohan – who gets away or off easy with just about everything she pulls. The justice system sometimes is not applied fairly. And there is a big difference between the CA judicial system and NJ’s.

          • JUST ME
            February 20, 2013 at 2:21 AM

            AS MUCH AS I LOVE WATCHING THE SHOW BRAVO WOULD BE WISE AT THIS POINT AND PULL THE PLUG RIGHT NOW, JUST BEAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY FILMING DOESN’T MEAN THEY MUST AIR IT, PULL THE PLUG AND PUT TERESA’S FAMILY COOKING SHOW ON INSTEAD, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO SEE TERESA OWN SHOW WITH NO DRAMA EXCEPT FOR MILANIA CALLING PEOPLE AN OLD TROLL
            WHICH I THINK IS A HIGH SPIRITED CHILD BEING THEMSELVES.. I ALMOST DIED LAUGHING AT THAT

    • February 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM

      Twitter is a language of it’s own. I always have trouble with it. I have always aspired to learn another language, Italian maybe Spanish, I have got to keep my mind active at my age. Who would have dreamed, I am now studying twitter. lol I will bet it will become a language one day.

      • Laram
        February 20, 2013 at 6:57 PM

        Lol!!!! I hear ya!

      • I live in the neighborhood
        February 21, 2013 at 12:17 PM

        Momajackie you are so right, many times people would tweet me an abreviation and I would have to google.

  11. February 19, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    So after trying to do some Twitter research I have come to the conclusion that some people from Twitter went to the Milania party last night and saw or heard some things that they didn’t like. I read a tweet from Johnny the Greek saying the conversation last night was all about his Twitter and what he tweets. IDK what the heck is going on but it’s getting old….too many “stories”, Twitter wars, etc. Goodness gracious….it’s just too much going on and being said to know what’s really going on, and unfortunately I’m no longer interested in watching it unfold on TV.

    Autumn I have to agree with you on your post. There’s a lot of “famewhoring” going on and it’s causing a lot of mess and confusion.

    • February 19, 2013 at 10:39 PM

      The people alluded that were there last night. They allege that all everyone was talking about is twitter — how stupid is that? That Bravo is now using Twitter to script the show — that made me LOL. These are a very small, tiny subset of people that make you want to think they have the skinny to loop ya in and it’s all smoke and mirrors. They love acting like the big bad bully — the language they use is gangster and takes credibility away. The sad thing is they are intelligent people.

      • February 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

        Now that’s where they really lost me…Bravo using Twitter to script the show? The stories are getting more and more outrageous! Everyone wants to be the big man on campus. SMH And you’re right about them being intelligent, I just wished they showed that side of them more often!

  12. Princess Vodka
    February 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    I’m so glad that I’m not the only one who doesn’t understand Twitter. Why does it have to be so hard?!!!!

    • February 19, 2013 at 11:15 PM

      Learning a new language is always hard. lol Twitter? Yes, go figure. (I just had to add the “r” in figure, I hate my new laptop.)

  13. Kimmers
    February 19, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    OMG Fame you mentioned one of my tweets in your article. Lol. But seriously there has been some crazy stuff going on in twitter land. Tre fans are fighting amongst each other and everyone is getting upset over comment made by a few people.

    • February 19, 2013 at 11:18 PM

      Oh so you know/understand what’s going on!! Please explain to me what I’m missing! :)

    • JennyS
      February 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM

      Yes, cliff’s notes version for us twitter-learning-disabled!

    • February 19, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      Hey Kimmers, I don’t know which tweet that was but I just removed a few to try to shorten the article. Can you sum up for us what the twitter conversation was about?

      • Kimmers
        February 20, 2013 at 7:46 AM

        Sorry I didn’t get back to you last night I had actually gone to bed shortly after I posted. I will try to sum up the twitter stuff but I was asking questions as to what was going on and Summer was trying to explain it to me. I’m CurrituckKim. Recentlyvalit of Tre fans have been arguing amongst themselves. Some people were tweeting last night that Faux spreads hate and is a bigot (I don’t Beleive this). I am blocked from Frank Beans account so I can not see his tweets. It also appears that Queenz is the one starting most of the discontent. He stirs the pot and then sits back and gleefully watches the drama unfold. He is always putting derogatory things about Faux out there. She got upset that Queenz contacted her boyfriend. I saw some tweets where Faux said that it was “on” now or something to that affect.

      • Kimmers
        February 20, 2013 at 7:48 AM

        I’ll try to do another post later in the day when I’m more awake. I have to get ready for work.

        • February 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM

          Thanks Kimmers. Your explanation helps make sense of the twitter conversations. I hope you can tell us more!

  14. ale
    February 19, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    I just noticed that jacko has not twitted for two days now…weird!!
    And of course meho is barely twitting now too

    • Ana-Capri
      February 20, 2013 at 8:34 AM

      I fear they are both close to losing their homes.

  15. Babs
    February 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Penny has a photo of Mario Petris’ business card on her Twitter account
    I can’t get the screen shot to post’ but it is near the end of all her photos..from June or July.

    • February 20, 2013 at 12:47 AM

      If I were younger … he’s hot! But seriously, why does Penny need a body guard to go to an event? The funny thing is she’s not in any of the pics at the link posted earlier. This has been going with the Greek’s for what 2 years — either shit or get off the pot. I don’t think Bravo wants them but they are sure trying hard still to get Penny a spot.

      • Jersey_Girl
        February 21, 2013 at 2:09 AM

        I find you humerous. You follow the Greeks on twitter and tweet them but now you say shit or get off the pot? Makes no sense.
        I was at the event with Penny’s party and can say Penny served the Gorgas with plenty. Joe and Melissa were scared to say a word. No Mario wasn’t there as a bodyguard, that was said as a Danielle Staub joke. Mario is HS friends with Penny and Johnny and was there with his girlfriend. We all jumped in the limo and went to event from Penny’s house. Actually joked about Mario playing bodyguard.
        There was plenty of action at the event and Penny was in control. Melissa and Joe shit when Penny went up to them. Funny thing was they kept complaining about Johnny’s twitter. It was hilarious.
        Yea there was a reconciliation, but you’ll never guess with who.
        So before you jump the gun and off Penny’s wagon, I suggest you wait because you’ll feel like a fool in the end. And yea, no pics of Penny with the others because Penny refused to take pics with any of them except the pics she took with us, her real friends. They tried to ambush Penny and once she opened her mouth they all backed up because Penny had others at the event ready to jump in at any time. Penny was ready for everyone and they realized it when they saw the faces behind her ready to jump in. They all looked like deers in headlights and shit the floor. Lol.

        • Silvana
          February 21, 2013 at 4:46 AM

          Jersey_girl I luv how u have all this info I’m from Australia so we just finished seeing season 4 last week hope to hell the gorga’s get what’s coming to them in season 5. Do u know for a fact that Penny can take them down without even with bad editing?? Caroline and Jax are starting to piss me off. Hope Arena doesn’t make us wait another year to air season 5.

        • I live in the neighborhood
          February 21, 2013 at 5:09 AM

          Kim D and Melissa reconciled. Oh Please more staged drama

          • Jersey_Girl
            February 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM

            Wrong again. That was weeks ago.

            • I live in the neighborhood
              February 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM

              Not wrong for the camera’s, I meant.

              • Jersey_Girl
                February 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM

                No, there was no Kim/Mel/Tre reconciliation.

  16. February 20, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    OMG I couldn’t wait for everyone to go to sleep so I could read everything. All the twitter stuff reads like high school drama.

  17. February 20, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Meho’s head looks lopsided! Hahaha :)

    • Dunnwrightpr
      February 20, 2013 at 1:39 AM

      It totally does look lopsided!! And, can Melissa copy T’s pose?! I wonder how many magazine photos Melissa studied to perfect the EXACT same stance as T. So sad. What a pathetic human being. Grow up. Isn’t she in her mid-30′s? Ugh. The shadow on this picture does not flatter Melissa, and I love it!! I laughed out loud. For real.

      • Ana-Capri
        February 20, 2013 at 8:36 AM

        I think she is pretty-but in this photo she looks horrible!

  18. SolarMoon
    February 20, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Hi Fame, what’s wrong with melissa’s leg upper thigh i hope that midget didn’t hit her

    • ChemGeek
      February 20, 2013 at 1:54 AM

      Ewwwww! Her leg looks nasty. WTH is that?

      • hwcrazygal
        February 20, 2013 at 4:19 AM

        I thought the same thing when I saw her legs…guess her “working out” isn’t working out! Look at Teresa’s legs, “fit as a fiddle”!

  19. SolarMoon
    February 20, 2013 at 3:20 AM

    Im sorry but i can no longer support teresa and her products , if she has reconciled with joe and melissa,the gorgas and giudices should just leave the show and be private, and let another family be cast to replace them

    • Ana-Capri
      February 20, 2013 at 8:38 AM

      And I will support her more than ever.

    • RahRah
      February 20, 2013 at 8:38 AM

      Since their parents are still alive, consider giving Teresa a pass. You know Mel and Joe are married today but they may not always be married, something that needs to be considered. If their parents weren’t alive I may feel different.

      And on a personal note, I was having a cousin issue parralleling Teresa’s, I have no interest in any reconciliation. However, this past Sept. I allowed my homeless brother to move in with me, he once threatened to kill me. Believe me when I say I am tired of him–but Fri. night my Dad called me thanking me for letting him stay with me. I had to secure all my valuables first, wink,. wink.

    • Jeannie5233
      February 20, 2013 at 10:05 AM

      Hey SolarMoon – you are entitled to feel that way. I think alot of us feel a little bamboozled by all of this. But I would like to share with you and everyone a story.

      Without going into much detail, it took me 27 years to realize that a member of my immediate family was not going to change and to accept that person for what they were – This person makes Joey and Melissa look like saints in comparison. Out of great respect for my mother, I put up with this person and all the turmoil that ensued. Finally, after 9 more years, the behavior could no longer be tolerated by anyone in the family and this person was written off and is no longer a part.

      It was and still remains one of the hardest things I have ever had to do as I once loved this person very much. Now, after much reflection and ongoing family discussion about this situation, there really was no other choice. The toxicity just became way too much to bear, especially for my mother.

      So with that in mind, we all should not be so quick to make judgements or decisions as yet. We do not walk in Teresa’s shoes. I have empathy as I am well aware of what she is going through. There are times when as an adult child, your own feelings have to be put aside out of respect for your parents. I believe that is what Teresa is doing and I know she is between a rock and a hard place right now.

      • my6girls2012
        February 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM

        I agree, Jeannie.

      • oldnjlady
        February 20, 2013 at 6:16 PM

        Excellent post Jeannie. My husband and I too had to disconnect all ties with my sister in law for many years. MYs sister in law is beyond wealthy but could not come home for over 5 years while her mother was fighting cancer becasue she was too busy with her life. When his mother was dying I called her to let her know that if she wanted to say goodbye that she needed to come quickly. My husband was furious with me but now he understands that it was the best think for his mother. While I still don’t like or trust her she did gain some respect for me for the love and care i gave her mother. MY sister is law is now realizing that she was in the wrong with her family. She even told me the day her mother died that I was a better daughter to her mother then she ever was.

        • Jeannie5233
          February 20, 2013 at 6:58 PM

          Individuals like the one in my family and your sister-in-law usually realize when it is too late – more’s the pity because it is their loss. At least your SIL had that realization and you have that and I am glad for you and your husband. In my situation, unfotunately, I won’t hold my breath.

          • oldnjlady
            February 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

            Jeannie
            I love most of the poster here but I really enjoy your post. You seem to be down to earth and straight forward.

            • Jeannie5233
              February 20, 2013 at 9:18 PM

              Thank you ONJL – I respect your posts as weil! :)

    • February 20, 2013 at 10:13 AM

      she has almost 1 yr left on her contract and she has to do what bravo says to do
      all go vote for tre

    • February 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM

      They are under contract, cast members on a reality show together. What makes you think she has a choice in the matter? Be realistic, TV is not real life.

    • JerseyGal
      February 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM

      Solar Moon — yep I am sad to admit but I am at that point as well.

    • February 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM

      I would never judge someone and their love for their family. Since when was taking the high road for the sake of someone’s dying father a bad thing? Is she supposed to do or not do what HER FANS think she should do or not do? We only see a small portion of their lives. It easy from the outside to say what you would or wouldn’t do, but remember, you ARE on the outside. I’ve swallowed my pride many times for family. I seriously doubt Teresa is telling Melissa her secrets and inner most feelings nor do I think they are besties. Not now, not ever.

  20. my6girls2012
    February 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Hello and, good morning Fame. Before making my comment, just wanted to let you and other bloggers here know that I have been reading this site since October and, love it. Like so many others, things were so confusing to me about Season 4 of NJ. So, I searched and found quite a few sites…not even knowing that people discussed these shows…LOL Anyhoo, to the Milania launch…do you think that Joey told Melissa that he was going whether she did or not? The reason being…when the fight broke out that night in Napa, Joey told Melissa to get their stuff packed; they were leaving with Teresa and Joe. Melissa wasn’t none too happy but, she left with them. LOL

    • February 20, 2013 at 12:05 PM

      I think that is possible. You make a good point by reminding us that Joey told Melissa that they were leaving California with Teresa and Joe to show his sister support (his sister vs. Caroline)… Melissa later said it was because they didn’t want the Giudices leaving by themselves because they were drunk.

  21. Jeannie5233
    February 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    In my mind, Joey Marco is the worst of the entire bunch.

    He reminds me of the movie Troy where Paris (Orlando Bloom) is all talk and puffs himself up to Helen but when confronted by Helen’s husband, he is easily wounded and cowardly clings to his brother, Hector’s (Eric Bana) leg sniveling, leaving Hector to fight his battle for him with the end result of Hector killing the King.

    That first scene at the christening when Joey calls his sister garbage and is screaming at his father – all put on for attention and looking for sympathy trying to portray Teresa and Joe G. in the worst light. Ding! Ding! Ding! Right then and there, I knew he was a POS. And he hasn’t proven me wrong since.

    In the beginning he rode on Teresa’s skirts for his 15 mins. stopping at nothing and selling out is family. All those overtures to Teresa in trying to “mend” their relationship was all for the cameras and BS. Remember when they were walking out of the therapists office, and he forgot his mike was on?

    Now, once again, he is hiding behind Teresa’s skirts, using her all in the hopes of salvaging whatever may be left of his and Melissa’s 15 minutes.

    There is no doubt in my mind he and Melissa will betray Teresa again. If Joe G. goes to jail, he will use the opportunity to swoop in to make it look like he is a hero, when in reality, he won’t let her forget it for one minute. And whatever Melissa decides to do in her effort to discredit Teresa, he will continue to support 1000%.

    It is sad Teresa doesn’t see any of this. He will never change. Joey Marco is not a man.

    • ChemGeek
      February 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM

      Well said! Joey Marco is a POS. What type of person screams at his/her elderly father with a heart condition, “You’re my f—ing father!”???? Joey Marco throws a hissy fit whenever he can,

      I believe Teresa sees it, but she has likely reconciled that it is best for her family to make peace with Joey Marco’s ways and his disgusting wife.

      Juicy lookin good in that photo!

      Melissa’s smile is FAKE in that photo. Why am I not surprised? ;)

    • February 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM

      You are 1000% correct. Joey Marco is un redeemable. He is a terrible, terrible person. The worst thing he has done is swindle his parents out of their money, rendering them homeless, and then rat out Teresa and Joe to building and zoning for building an unpermited in laws quarters thereby shutting it down. That and sitting at a reunion listening to crazy, sick people call Teresa every name in the book and say nothing.

  22. Jersey
    February 20, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    My theory is that the Manzos and the Lauritas were responsible for causing a rift between these two families. Teresa and her brother settled their differences and were getting along in California, and Don Caro had to start that ridiculious fight during dinner. Her behaviior, along with her children’s was disgusting. Jacqueline claimd the phone calls she recived from the producers was from a mutual friend. The Manzo/Laurita clam thought by making the Teresa and her brother look foolish that the public would embrace them as the loving, normal family. The result, It backfired.

    • Ana-Capri
      February 20, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      Tha Manzo-Laurita crime families are the biggest losers! Caroline really is garbage.

      • February 20, 2013 at 12:04 PM

        I see what u did there LOL ;) and yes both are involved in lots of criminal activities I agree but please don’t give them a mafia reference they get off on that stuff ! They really want ppl to think they’re “connected” which I will never understand that.

    • AussieFan
      February 20, 2013 at 8:04 PM

      I agree with your comment. The third instalment of season 4 reunion just aired in Australia and Jacqueline was practically clapping with glee with all the drama between the family. I also noticed that when they were talking about Dina Manzo she has the same look. Jac is pissed that she has been blown off by Teresa so she keeps stirring the pot.

      • Silvana
        February 21, 2013 at 7:22 AM

        Also AussieFan did u see that when Teresa said that Caroline told her that Jax was a stripper Caroline said nothing didn’t rip into her or anything cause she knew it was the truth also chris didn’t have a response for Juicey when e said how chris told him about how he met her

        • AussieFan
          February 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM

          Silvana yes I did see that! It seemed like Chris Laurita was trying to do some damage control and Caroline had no response. I wonder if she felt some remorse for her part in this..

          The best part though was when Juicy said to Joe Gorga ” pay your bills”… Haha

  23. GPM
    February 20, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    I am totally confused! Why did @FauxRealityEnt and Pete Giudice’s friend, @franksabean, get into a Twitter fight in the first place?

    Both would logically have followers who are fans of Tre’s, so I suppose that’s how “Tre’s fans” were “split” into two camps — although all, of course, remain fans of Tre!

    It appears that this may really a fight between (pro-Bryan) @FauxRealityEnt and (anti-Bryan) @QoM, but how in the world do @franksabean (and Pete Giudice) get involved in it? Bryan seems like a nice guy who’s going through a difficult time and he seems to see Messy in the same way that Tre does, so I’m quite confused as to why her fans would side with @QoM (who is clearly in the same gutter as the Marcos and who has said some truly awful things regarding Bryan) over @FauxRealityEnt?

    • February 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM

      I’m with you! Totally confused!

      • holy cannoli
        February 20, 2013 at 11:21 AM

        I don’t get the ” love” from Frank whoever he is, and Pete Guidice for Queenz. That person ( and her flock) been awful about Teresa and Joe since that person started tweeting/ blogging about the show. This person has spread( and in my opinion has created) numerous rumors about Teresa and Joe. Besides what this person has done to people that do not agree with her/him. This person has stalked people, given out personal info, harassed people, this person is very very cruel.

    • February 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM

      I think Teresa’s fans became divided when Pete Giudice threw his support behind QoM after Bryan (a private citizen) tweeted about the alleged rape charges (which he quickly deleted and, in his defense, he was provoked by QoM, who tweeted about Bryan’s assault charges and brain tumor surgery and then brought Bryan’s parents into the mess). Understandably, the families don’t want any rumors about alleged rape charges to go viral, and I don’t blame them — there is no evidence that has surfaced to support these allegations. The rumor first originated in an anonymous e-mail sent to SH in May 2011 (http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/05/11/melissa-gorga/).

  24. February 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    Here’s the thing Joe and his wife haven’t considered/realized they want “bring Teresa down” but they will never really be able to b/c they are NOTHING w/o her. Do they think if Teresa is off the show they’ll be the stars? She is their storyline duh! Sometimes I wish I could just shake the stupid out of some ppl. Smh

    • February 20, 2013 at 2:23 PM

      I LIKE THAT NEW KID

      • February 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM

        why thank you :) I just don’t think they see the big picture here, common sense would dictate that once they either make up or force Teresa to leave then their done. Bravo will have no use for them after that. Bravo is a business and I know WE care about a persons character Bravo doesn’t care if you are a good person or a bad person its all about who’s the most interesting to watch and who brings in the ratings and without Teresa they’re not interesting to watch plan and simple.

        Fame I have a question: do we know for sure that bravo/Andy get a cut of Ts products cuz I’m thinking if they don’t that would be reason for all the hate. I ask bc i know she is very successful but they don’t actively act like they endorse her also they talk a lot about Ramonas wine but not her jewelery.that’s very successful on qvc so maybe they get a cut from the wine but not the jewelery….sorry for the long post ;)

        • gemini82
          February 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM

          bravo does get a cut off her products. i think that when it comes to the books, their cut is not that big because they didn’t think she would have that much success. I don’t think that bravo/andy along with the manzo took her seriously and are mad that she succeed. Especially the manzos, you know they thought that they should be the success off the rhonj.

  25. Jeannie5233
    February 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    RumorFix:

    Joe Gorga Exclusive: Melissa Gorga & Teresa Giudice Did Not Make Up!
    Posted on February 20th, 2013

    As fans of Real Housewives of New Jersey, there’s nothing we’d like more than Teresa Giudice and her sister-in-law, Melissa Gorga, to bury the hatchet.

    In Touch magazine wants it so badly they created a fake headline: “Teresa Giudice and Melissa Gorga’s Shocking Reconciliation.”

    RumorFix spoke exclusively to the man in the middle, Joe Gorga, who says, “It’s a dirty situation right now.”

    He says the women agreed to do another season of RHONJ together, but, “they are not in a good place.”

    Joe tells us fans will see pictures of Melissa and Teresa posing together, but they are only doing photo ops (like one for a Milania Hair Care event on February 18) for the show.

    “We’re family,” An emotional Joe tells RumorFix exclusively. ” She’s my blood, my sister … My heart is always open for her. When she’s really ready, without any of the bulls**t, I’m waiting for her.”

    • February 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

      Thanks Jeannie!

      • Jeannie5233
        February 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

        Here is Radaronline’s take about last night:

        Teresa Giudice and Melissa Gorga Bury the Hatchet – And Not In Each Other’s Back

        After not speaking for months — except for an argument last month – The Real Housewives of New Jersey stars Teresa Giudice and sister-in-law Melissa Gorga got along swimmingly at a February 18 promotional event for Teresa’s Milania Hair Care line, In Touch reports.

        “It seemed like they had reconciled and put the past behind them,” a source told the magazine. “There was a lot of laughing and joking around between the families.

        “But of course, things were not all picture perfect.”

        In addition, their husbands, Joe Giudice and Joe Gorga — who’ve had simmering tension over the years — played around like old pals.

        The love fest stood in stark contrast to the war of words the Jersey Girls engaged in Jan. 11, when according to the source, Melissa was verbally attacked by Teresa and her friends while attending the 12th birthday party for Teresa’s daughter Gia.

        “Teresa’s pal Kim D. was drunk and was the instigator, stirring the pot — as always — over petty stuff,” the source said.

        Okay Everyone – there you go! Three different takes on the same event! No wonder everyone is so confused!!!

        • February 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM

          I get the feeling Bravo is directing sources to feed blogs of their choosing in order to direct traffic away from bloggers like FW and FRE and onto blogs that they sanction and believe they can control.

          • Jeannie5233
            February 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM

            That makes sense. However, what Bravo forgets is that their past attempts to control and manipulate the vast majority is what led people to blogs such as FameWhorgas. More and more people are refusing to be led by their nose and eat what Bravo is trying to feed them!Big mistake Bravo!

            • Laram
              February 20, 2013 at 6:42 PM

              Yes! I agree!!! Keep on keeping on, Fame, and others. NBC doesn’t own you.

            • February 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

              So true Jeannie, we all know what lead us to FW. After reading everything today, it appears this latest stunt by Melissa and Joe is the lowest of the low.

              “When she’s really ready, without any of the bulls**t, I’m waiting for her.” Well you should be waiting for her at your own venue, not hers. You both went to her event. Do you know how idiotic that appears coupled with that statement? I swear the first thing that came into my mind was, Chaz (Wedding Crashers). I mean, what is next? Funeral crashing! I believe these two would attend the opening of a toilet, if it gave them a photo opportunity.

              I think even some of their fans are not going to like this.

              Note to Bravo, good luck manking any money with their promotions.

          • February 20, 2013 at 9:50 PM

            what is fre?

            • Jeannie5233
              February 20, 2013 at 10:03 PM

              Celi – FRE stands for FauxReality Entertainment – she is a blogger who Queenz has very nastily gone after.

          • mare
            February 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM

            Absolutely. They are going to lose even more fans. No one wants to be treated like a fool. I had no problem giving up the show. It’s the great blogs ( this one is the best) that I enjoy.

  26. lilly
    February 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Just like famewhorgas said it was for the cameras.JoGo told rumor fix,that it was just for a photo op!

    • Chelly
      February 20, 2013 at 11:31 PM

      Exactly!! Nothing but a photo op & the main reason is they were most likely mandated by Bravo that they must attend.

  27. Anna
    February 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    I read somewhere else that Lookers and her husband are going to move in with Tre, whats up with that? To much confusion right now. It was better if Tre said something about those pics before putting the pics on internet. I am happy for her, but do not believe everything I read, and I think Lookers is out to get her like always, no matter what, pics or no pics. I hope Tre is not going to lose fans over this confusion. She has to be strong and keep it real.

    • February 20, 2013 at 9:04 PM

      I do not believe that. I read somewhere that Joe stopped Teresa from moving their parents into her home (to help care for her father). I suspect it is some type of double family restriction of code perhaps.

  28. Anna
    February 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    From someone named Pinky on http://fauxrealityentertainment.com/exclusive-ls-magazine-melissa-gorgas-image-shows-cracks/

    have been reading your Twitter, Faux, and from what I can gather, Tre is forgiving MeGo & Joe and having them move in with her because Joe (husband) can’t drive…..I am so gonna be pissed if I understand this correctly. Teresa is a dumbass and I am real tired of supporting this kind of crap. I adore your writing and your FACTS about everything! I only can hope that BullDog comes out with the truth soon in a reputable media and it fucks up Bravo’s little fairytale. Also, if I understand correctly, Teresa is on her own for me these days…..I just want the real truth to surface. I am sickened by the TRASH associated with MeGo on twitter – disgusting animals….Shame on Teresa. Thank you for your honesty and I will always support you and your perfect work

    • oldnjlady
      February 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM

      Lets cut Teresa some slack. Teresa has to distance herself because she is damn if she does and damned if she doesn’t. Lookers twists everything to blame Teresa. Kim D was part of the strippergate set up last year but even she did not remove Teresa from under the bus.
      If Teresa distances herself from everyone that hates Lookers (I know, they will not be many people left, lol) then maybe just maybe she (Teresa) can not be blamed with the TRUTH about Lookers affairs, lies, and dirty deeds are exposed.
      Teresa does love her brother and her parents. I am sure it pains her that her parents can not spend time with both their children and all the grandchildren at the same time.

      Personally, I think it is a lost cause on Teresa’s part. She needs to tell Fredo that she will be there if he needs her but she is done apologizing and done with him until he respects her, her marriage and her life and tells his pos wife to STFU

      • February 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM

        Wells stated oldnjlady.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 20, 2013 at 7:31 PM

        I agree – Teresa, hopefully, will finally get to a place where she will have had enough giving her the strength to give Joey an ultimatum – but she is not there yet – from personal experience, I know you make excuses; you overlook; and you accept things you never would because of your parents. It could take Teresa a long while to get there – years in fact – but maybe one day she will.

      • February 20, 2013 at 9:06 PM

        Great post. I read the new postings and now I am commenting. I read you were mentioned in Queenz tweet. You go oldnjlady!

    • embee
      February 21, 2013 at 6:25 AM

      I read that post too Anna. I was wondering if Pinky might be a Melissa supporter trying to spread dissension on a site that’s frequented by fans of Teresa. A new tactic by the Marcos, perhaps?

    • February 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM

      I thought I read here that it was just a rumor. hmmmm, I’ve hit so many links and read so many blogs I don’t remember where I saw what. Anyway, that really doesn’t make sense because Joe hasn’t been able to drive for months, (years?) now… so why now is it so important.

  29. Laram
    February 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    Forgive me, I’m confused. I wasn’t able to go to bed until 8 am, and woke up at noon…Mountain time.
    I thought that Pete Giudice and Johnny the Grk hated QoM. Also, Franksbean always posts with Faux on Teresa’s Twitter. So, you are saying that Frank is a Bravo plant playing both sides? Are Pete and Johnny messing with QoM? I understood about Teresa wanting to stay neutral, but I guess I need to reread…especially Bryan’s deleting twitters…can someone paraphrase for me? Thank you, lol.

    • Laram
      February 20, 2013 at 6:26 PM

      Just reread Fame and Jeannie….Ok, got it now…sorry for confusion, am exhausted, and thought Greeks, Giudice’s and Bulldog on similar page against QoM, Marcos sisters…wow. Glad I don’t live in Jersey and related to that mess, although we all can relate with our own stories, knowing someone close, and betrayal that brings in people who know from a community of family/friends….didn’t Teresa confirm that she had heard but never met the Greeks?

  30. kim ba lee
    February 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    This blog is a hot topic on the QOM timeline..

    • oldnjlady
      February 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

      LOL Now I am the editor of this site according to q tl. Hey Fame can I get a salary check?

      • February 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM

        I soon as I get mine oldnjlady LOL!

    • February 20, 2013 at 10:20 PM

      Well that’s nice. The Marcos’ll know we here for sure seeing as though QoM is essentially their little lap dog.

  31. oldnjlady
    February 20, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    PLEASE SOMEONE GET THE PROOF OUT ON LOOKERS. I have had it with both of them. They deserve every bad bit of karma and so do all of those that support them.

    To all of you that kept giving Lookers and Fredo a pass do you feel like a fool now? After the other night you were proud that you knew Tre and Fredo/Lookers were getting along and today he just shit in your mouth again.

    Remember the old saying Fool me once shame on you Fool me twice shame on me.

    • Marcy
      February 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

      To oldnjlady I feel like a complete Fool..Now I’m MAD!!!

    • Jeannie5233
      February 20, 2013 at 8:10 PM

      Joe’s last comment on RumorFix:

      When she’s really ready, without any of the bulls**t, I’m waiting for her.”

      Just whose bulls**t is he referring to?!?!?! Because he and his wife have sure slung enough to fill up a bullpen and then some.

      He is so full of himself – like he has never done anything wrong. What a disgrace he is to the Gorga name. His father has to be heartbroken.

      • February 20, 2013 at 10:01 PM

        IV HEARD WHEN YOUR EYES ARE BROWN YOU ARE FULL OF S–T,,SO I BELIEVE JOGO AND MELGO ARE FULL OF IT

        • February 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM

          Hey! watch it! lol… not ALL who have brown eyes are full of sh!t. I know that personally. ;-)

          • February 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM

            me too im brown eyedand 1 son out of my 8 kids is brown eyed ,dch60 thats just a saying no offend ,love and light as danielle would say.

      • my6girls2012
        February 21, 2013 at 8:38 AM

        Joe Gorga says some of the most “off the wall” comments I’ve ever heard. The “Angel from God” comment has to be one of the top that he’s made. Also, he always has this blank look on his face when he’s told something; no comprehension whatsoever. So in turn, he waits until he gets the “facts” from his wife. Sarcasm in the last sentence…LOL

  32. I live in the neighborhood
    February 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Ok I think the joke is on all of us, who knows if the families talk. I think the only way they will speak is when cameras close for good. This show is dark, dangerous and ugly, if you really want to support family and ho our don’t warch

    • oldnjlady
      February 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM

      They will never be good until Lookers is gone. She will not allow it. She is always in Fredo’s ear about Teresa and his family doing her wrong. When the truth is they treat her better than she deserves. She is pure evil.

      My heart is breaking for Teresa once again. Fredo and Lookers are all smiles for the camera and withing 2 days there is not one story out there bashing Teresa but two. One from Fredo and one from Lookers.

  33. Anonymous
    February 20, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Hi nj lady,

    I was just reading all post here after waking up here in Aust, I dont want to wonder over to tweeter world either. I feel crazy for letting this get to me and wish I never watched the bloody show, I wonder how many others feel the same. I class myself older veiwer as I am over 49? and I think I became a T supporter because of the mistreatment she received not from just her own blood but by the others and when these shows started we were told it is REAL Life of housewives.
    Whats funny our Morning news show Sunrise just announced coming up next interview with RHNY Bethanny? with all the gossip. I think it is SHAME on me for watching and getting myself so involved. cheers Tassie

    • February 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM

      Tassie, I am closer to 60 than 55. You feel crazy for letting this get to you? Join the club. I was watching one of the Season 4 episodes last year. I got so upset, turned off the television (I had it recording on DVR) and immediately went to the Bravo site, in tears and started making my comment. Of course, only to have Bravo not publish it. I refer to this as one of my “guilty pleasures”, NHONJ and FW.

      • my6girls2012
        February 21, 2013 at 8:29 AM

        Momajackie, I understand what you’re saying!

  34. February 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Great article and great site.

    I never saw Pete Giudice’s tweets to me. So let me respond this way. I have no problem talking to Pete Giudice in the presence of my Fiance. I do not believe Pete runs his Twitter acct. I believe Sheila and Frank run the acct.

    I have no problem showing Pete the text messages sent to me by Frank or the telephone comments made to me by Frank about Juicy’s case.

    Pete is free to call me. How a “man” can make comments without ever spoken or interacted with someone is beyond me. Then again, his source of information has his own motives.

    • Anonymous
      February 20, 2013 at 6:10 PM

      Hi Faux

      Motives is correct, so many innocent people have been dragged into this, you included. Viewers from all around the world turned in to RHNJ then we were all gulped as we saw a woman(Teresa) being treated so poorly from friends but more shocking by blood, so we felt the need to say something. My hat off to you for showing the support to the ones that have been crucified eg Bryan JTG etc
      Cheers Tassiedevil

      • February 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM

        I am convinced Frank tweets from Pete Giudice’s acct, Pete’s acct hereinabove refers to me as “dat chic is full of it” and a tweet Frank made to me on September 19, 2012 stated “your own peeps dat u think”. Same person

        On a prior occasion, Frank forgot what acct he was using a posted a tweet about JTG that was allegedly from Pete’s acct.

        • Anonymous
          February 20, 2013 at 6:53 PM

          Faux didnt frank have another handle before it was franksabean and then this one was blocked? maybe wrong it was still frank something need to go back months though. I beacme a bit sus when I saw tweets between Sheila QM Frank new years eve was only wishing happy but ???????????????????
          Tassie

          • February 20, 2013 at 7:12 PM

            His prior acct was @FrankAbba and I think he was known by another name before that but it was the same Frank Abba acct. Frank asked me by text to please delete the tweets that I sent to @FrankAbba when he came at my on September 19 because he didn’t want his kids and his sisters to see the exchange. I never responded and never deleted. Thereafter he deleted the acct and a few weeks later started a new acct @FranksABean

            • Anonymous
              February 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM

              Oh Faux I thought something must have happened as I said people from around the world come on board with rhnj because we were told its REAL LIFE and here in Australia we have just had 3rd night of reunion so for months people like me hit the net and as stupid as I feel needed the truth so hit the net. I have read you site as well must say Great work. Please take care of yourself I have seen the attacks you have been receiving as well, proud you are not letting some a**holes get to you.
              Cheers
              Tassiedevil

              • February 20, 2013 at 10:32 PM

                It is not real life. Please understand as an Italian from New Jersey it is mortifying and insulting to see how these people act and how their men respond to women on twitter.

                There are so many Italians who make beneficial contributions in the area of medicine, science, art, music from New Jersey who should be on TV and followed on twitter

                • I live in the neighborhood
                  February 23, 2013 at 12:51 AM

                  Dear Faux, I like your blog, respect your investigative abilities, but to tweet about someone’s wife who has nothing to do with anything is dead wrong. Don’t put yourself in that category. Make peace, or cease fire and get on with your great investigative journalism

            • SolarMoon
              February 20, 2013 at 7:24 PM

              it doesn’t matter andy will probably dump the gorga/guidice klan ,now that they made up and the gorgas are moving in the giudice’s home, their friends and family on twitter will be forgotten, time for a new family from jersey to take over

              • Anonymous
                February 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM

                Hi Solar,
                I just read the moving in thing was a joke said by Faux I would say it could have been like this I suppose the gorgs will be moving in with guidices now they made up Something along those lines maybe, and it has gone like WILDFIRE over the net
                cheers Tassie

                • February 22, 2013 at 10:40 AM

                  Thank you… I knew I read something like that somewhere. It didn’t make sense to me that they were moving in since JoGu can’t drive when he hasn’t been able to drive in a very long time (if memory serves it’s been over two years). Whatever, doesn’t make sense.

              • February 20, 2013 at 10:11 PM

                HOW CAN MEL AND JOGO MOVE IN WITH TRE AND HER PARENTS CANT?

            • February 20, 2013 at 8:37 PM

              Faux, I haven’t responded on twitter because of the turmoil and I am not that kind of gal. So glad you posted on Fame. You know I love you and of course Fame is my <3. Roxie rocks. Twitter is not me. I keep it because I have a 16 year old and I have to stay on top of what she is doing. I am trying to figure it all out but I do have a case of chemo brain and it keeps my mind some what fogged. I am adapting to it but sometimes over the the head we go…

              • February 20, 2013 at 9:21 PM

                I’m sorry that you don’t respond because of the turmoil. I would love to hear from you here and on twitter.

              • February 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM

                Sorry to hear that Kelly. Hope things go well for you. (((Kelly)))

    • Laram
      February 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM

      Again, you and Fame and Roxy are not owned by networks. Please keep on keeping on, and deliver the truth. Thank you!

    • February 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM

      I’ve stated this before, could Franksabean or franknbean or whatever his twitter be Pete Guidice?

      • oldnjlady
        February 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

        Two different people. Frank and Pete are friends and I think neighbors

      • February 20, 2013 at 9:22 PM

        They are two different people but I firmly believe that Frank and Sheila (Pete’s wife) run the Pete Giudice Acct. I cannot believe someone like Pete would run to Frank’s defense like a high school bestie

        • Honnie Badger
          February 20, 2013 at 9:43 PM

          Wow, FRE, you totally shut me down more than a month ago on your blog because someone attacked ME and I did not attack anyone. Why is that? I want an explanation.

          • February 20, 2013 at 10:08 PM

            Out of respect for Fame Whorgas site, this is not the place to discuss a problem you have with another site. I suggest you post your problem at the correct location. What you want is irrelevant

    • JennyS
      February 20, 2013 at 8:23 PM

      I can’t believe these people found out who you were. This is scary.

      • February 20, 2013 at 10:07 PM

        They didn’t. They came up with a name and they ran with it. I wish them much luck in contacting the person they think I am. Frank told a mutual friend that he knows that’s not my name but they continue to run with it.

        • JennyS
          February 20, 2013 at 10:26 PM

          Oh good. I thought they knew your fiancée and therefore, you. Check them in that link I sent you way back when, just to see what sort of thugs you’re dealing with. And be careful!

          • February 20, 2013 at 10:48 PM

            They did tweet my Fiance (total of 124 tweets in three days) but they have wrong ID on me.

            • JennyS
              February 20, 2013 at 10:55 PM

              I’ll email you.

        • February 22, 2013 at 10:48 AM

          I’m glad to hear they don’t truly know who you are but I feel bad for the person they do think is you! When I think about it, they better watch themselves as they could end up with a big, fat lawsuit from the mistakenly identified person.

    • February 20, 2013 at 9:22 PM

      Hi Faux, your blog Fame’s blog and allabouttrh are the only blogs I read.

      • February 20, 2013 at 11:52 PM

        Thanks Jackie, In my biased opinion, you have great taste. :)

      • February 22, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        Those are the ones I find myself sticking with lately. I usually read a couple of others but don’t really comment any longer. I find myself getting disgusted over Melissa’s fans defending her. This Teresa vs. Melissa phenomena has caused such dissension amongst the fans. There are people whose opinions I usually respect and I’m tired of going back and forth with them over this yet it’s hard for me to just let it go. When I realize how angry I have gotten over a friggin television show, it kinda scares me… lol I’m soo SOOOO glad you all understand. :-)

    • February 20, 2013 at 10:24 PM

      Faux, thanks for the compliment and the shout out on your twitter. I think certain entities don’t like that we are digging too deep and getting it right.

      • February 20, 2013 at 10:50 PM

        Fame, you are the talk of Twitter! Keep it up FAME!

        • February 20, 2013 at 10:55 PM

          Right back at you Faux! Bloggers unite ♥

          • February 20, 2013 at 11:28 PM

            :)

          • Anonymous
            February 20, 2013 at 11:31 PM

            FAME and FAUX well done to both of you, for all your hard work, its unfortunate that you 2 have to take some shit to get the TRUTH out to the viewers.
            I for one thankyou please both take care
            Cheers
            Tassiedevil

  35. Anna
    February 20, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    I hate to say it, but I told you so. Pics or no pics, I knew it!
    Teresa and Joe, maybe ever!!!! Teresa and Joe and lookers wil never be!!!!!
    The girl is obsessed with Tre, don’t know if she wants to be her or skin her and wear her like last year’s Versace (quote Dina Manzo).
    Lookers is vindictive, and so into the fame that she doesn’t care about anything anymore. lookers will sabotage Teresa to remain relevant.” Thats her storyline, because what else she is on the show for, Bravo gives her a paycheck to do so. Satan is working double time in destroying the family unit. The first episode you could see it at Gorga’s son’s christening, right then and there with the satans of Marco’s.
    Teresa please, please back away from this show and return to your wonderful family.

  36. anomnomnom
    February 20, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    I am so confused, I got a headache- I think this is what it said-
    peanut butter Teresa slides all the way to teacup poodles JoeGorga and bull dogs in caves dunking MelGo sprinkle donuts, cloudy sunny days with the brightest moonlighting way to Oz car mayer. And then Penny left with Franksbeans and sauerkraut. With QofM Peter hanging out in a Posh bed. Ich liebe diche. Did I read that right?

    • February 20, 2013 at 6:37 PM

      LOL — You nailed it!

    • Anonymous
      February 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

      I can’t stop laughing!!!! This has got to win some kind of prize for being -

      The. Best. And. Funniest. Comment. Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Thank you :)

      • Jeannie5233
        February 20, 2013 at 6:51 PM

        This is Jeannie5233 – different computer!

    • February 20, 2013 at 8:40 PM

      OMG anomnomnom I understood every word you said! NOT!

    • February 20, 2013 at 9:28 PM

      Is that this new twitter language? I always wanted to master a third language. I think I will pick Italian, it has to be much easier. Ciao, lol

  37. SolarMoon
    February 20, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    i really do believe that this will be the giudices and gorga’s last season this year… lil joe and teresa have reconcile.miss andy likes drama, he’s not filming a happy gorga/giudice family,he bought the gorga’s to the show for drama and it’s not gonna happen. the gorga’s are not worth the 15 million they claimed to be, lil joey is not a master house builder anymore,he’s a landscaper, melissa’s album flopped,andy will find a very wealthy new jersey family to replace the giudice and gorgas. now reports are saying the gorgas are moving in the giudice’s home, i wonder if the gorga’s have been evicted,they depend on funds from bravo, sleazy casinos,tan salons and club appearances,you cant live in a luxury home bringing in that type of money. man i really wanted teresa to comeback and take no crap from her haters on the show, but she gave in to protect her brothers past from coming up.oh yeah the tea is that the gorgas are moving in with the giudices because joe can’t drive, please ,the gorgas are being evicted i bet.guess the gorgas won bringing down teresa’s empire, playing the family is important card.

    • February 20, 2013 at 9:31 PM

      SolarMoon, unless you can provide links. I do not believe this. I do not think they “made up”, nor do I believe Joe and Melissa are moving in with Teresa and Joe.

      • Anonymous
        February 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM

        Hi sweet Moma, You are right, They are not MOVING IN…….. on Faux Real site she has stated it was a joke and by the sounds of it has hit net NOT like WILDFIRE that I have stated but like an ATOMIC BOMB we can laugh about it though.
        Moma not sure if you saw something I wrote to you a few blogs back about what you do for the 12 days of christmas with your family, Im so excited for this year have begun placing gifts in huge container some bought some made, Im in the process of a timeline quilt for granddaughter using photos for the border of family past and present thanks for the wonderful idea. Cheers Tassie

        • Anonymous
          February 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM

          Believe me, I so enjoy the 12 days of Christmas.

          The quilt is a wonderful idea. This is what I did. I took all of my children baby clothes, (the ones we keep and we all do) and I made/had made a quilt. I cut the “squares” myself, you know the monograms, cute duck, cat, etc., had a friend of my mother’s sew the squares together and our local senior’s center quilted (for a very small price), a family quilt. All babies brought home from the hospital are wrapped in this “lite” (bedding is lite, I live in South Louisiana) quilt.

          Sachem, take note. Save some of Ava’s special outfits, have a quilt made. Our family quilt is still at Ryan and Shelli’s home. I will try to take a picture and post it as my pic so you can see how our turned out.

          • Princess Vodka
            February 21, 2013 at 12:33 AM

            The quilt…such a great idea. My MIL makes each of the grandkids a quilt for their graduation. Squares made of sports shirts, jerseys, cheerleading outfits. My son’s contained a few of his baby outfits. The kids ADORE them and the mom’s cry at the reveals. Such a wonderful idea. She also made me a wedding quilt — had me hand out squares to those who were special to me. My grandma wasn’t particularly crafty so she signed her name to a square and my MIL embroidered it. VERY special to me. My husband’s aunt wrote and embroidered a memory from his childhood. Soooo many things you can do with a memory quilt!

        • February 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM

          A timeline quilt. Great minds think alike. I made/had made, (I cut the squares, the seniors and my mom’s friend did the rest) a quilt also. Made with baby clothes from all of my own children. (All mothers know, they are there, the outfits, the ones we do not get rid of). The monogram, that duck, cat, dog on our baby’s outfit). After it was made, I told all of my children that every child they had was to be brought home in this family/love quilt. I will take a picture this weekend, so you can see it. Post it as Moma background.

          • February 20, 2013 at 11:40 PM

            This new picture thing, that I have to sign into when I post, said my first post did not go through. It did. Sorry for the double more or less same words.

          • Anonymous
            February 20, 2013 at 11:44 PM

            Thanks sweet moma, love to see it and once again thanks for the 12 days of christmas idea, my kids love gifts my grown daughter said to me does this mean I have to visit you everyday for 12 days so I get my gift I said yes, they both only live 10 min away, my other is in a different state still trying to work out how to get to him and his wife maybe post each day.
            Cheers Tassie

  38. Anna
    February 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Teresa is on her own, she is playing with fire if the reports are true. I hope that the information is false for her sake. She wil look stupid if Lookers and Fredo sabotage her again and fans like my wil be done and over. The fans here do have her back, how long, I don’t know.

    • February 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM

      It’s ONE pic! It was at her launch event. I’m sure her dad was there and maybe, just maybe, they all did it for him. You can’t dog Teresa for wanting to pull together her family for her dad since he more than likely will not be here much longer. It’s unfortunate for her that her brother married who he did, but I commend her for sucking it up for her dad and being in the same room with her. That’s all it was. As for the tweets, someone upthread said something that made the most sense… Pete Guidice does not run his twitter account. I believe it… for now anyway. I’m not jumping ship yet.

  39. Pinky
    February 20, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Honestly, if Terrsa and her brother cared about mom and dad – they would have attempted a mending of this riff in real life-NOT for BRAVO. I am losing all patience with this whole bunch. Joe Gorga is acting for Bravo to keep his 15 minutes that is in true peril and he and his slutty wife are in a panic. Honestly, I don’t think the Gorga parents care too much for Melissa for the same reasons the viewers can’t stand her. Sadly, Teresa is being used and it is not appealing or even believable any more. How the hell can Andy and these lazy ass producers not get it by now! Viewers are only gonna tune in for the REAL deal now. The ugly truth about Melissa and Joe, the Laurita bankruptcy fraud, the evil, shady ways of the Manzos and Lauritas and KimD. The ultimately boring, no exciting life with the Walkilies! If NBC/BRAVO wanted ratings to be off the charts and make mega$$$ they would get their heads out of their asses and reveal it all – raw and real. This crap is nothing but more material for Saturday Night Live to call them all out and show what idiots and stupidity these HW shows have become. Teresa needs to do some real soulsearching and admit to herself, her brother will need her when this dirtbag dumps him – until then, he is as insincere as Melissa. Don’t ruin everything you’ve worked for to bail these losers out of their rut – it won’t work and everyone will lose.

  40. donewithbravo
    February 20, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Just commenting on the whole bunch of pics I clicked on here. WHY does Teresa pose with one leg in front of the other, hand on hip, head tilted to the left in the most unnatural pose (as if she’s a wax dummy) and cheeseball smile?????????????????? Some of the pics were 100% more natural and normal and I wish those would be the pics they’d publish! Enough with this stupid pose!!!!! As for the other “people” in the pics: Her brother looks like he’s had way too much ‘roids. Her SIL looked pissed off. All of the other “women” in the pics looked like bad trannies. Yeesh, what a bunch of scary looking people!! Sidenote: Teresa’s hair looks very healthy.

    • Honnie Badger
      February 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM

      I kind of disagree in that I believe that Teresa’s pose is all natural; it is how she is comfy in front of a camera. It’s simply all her, you know? BTW, I agree about her hair and can say that if that’s you and your hair, you also have shiny, beautiful locks!

      • February 21, 2013 at 11:39 AM

        i really think thats the way she stands,the other ladies with their hands on their hip looks natural ,i dont think she is comfortable so she trys the same look each time cus her hand is stiff ,the others just sorta flows

      • donewithbravo
        February 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM

        HB: Yes, that’s me and my hair. Guess it’s in the Sicilian blood! I keep mine healthy with simple organic coconut oil (nothing costly). Thanks!

  41. February 20, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    I’ve read and reread and read the comments and I’m STILL scratching my head! All I know is the Gorgas will do anything for infamy. Posing for a photo is nothing compared to outing your family on international TV.

    To me, Teresa turning the other cheek consistently makes her amazing! I just don’t want her to walk into any traps -she should know the score by now!
    Now this Franks person & Pete Giudice are bit players in my mind, scraping for the sake of scraping. It’s drawing attention away from what’s going on – maybe it’s a game of tactical interference.

    • February 21, 2013 at 12:17 AM

      I do think Tre would do anything to spare her parents any more heartbreak over Joe, and I can’t blame her. I’m sure she would swallow her pride to save her niece and nephews from having to suffer because of her famewhore sister in law too. I agree with what others have said-Teresa doesn’t want the truth to come out about Melissa, and if Joe had something expunged from his record, I’m sure she doesn’t that want that to come out either. This is her worst nightmare-that the show would bring disgrace and heartache to her family-and is what she tried to warn Melissa and Joe about.

      I’m sure that Teresa will do what she can to prevent the skeletons from falling out of Melissa and Joe’s closet…but I also think in the end, she will realize that her efforts will be like shoveling shit against the tide. And I also don’t think she will let her fans down, or let this tarnish her brand-she’s worked too hard for that! Right now, she’s trying to make her parents happy, but I don’t think she’ll jeopardize her own family’s financial stability by turning against the people who have supported her. Although I think Joe and Melissa are scum, it will be all for the best if the Gorgas and Giudices are one big HAPPY family.

      • February 21, 2013 at 2:30 AM

        Great Post!

        • February 22, 2013 at 11:54 AM

          Agree! I agree 100%… with both of you.

  42. Anonymous
    February 20, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Hi Sackem, how are you and your beautiful daughter doing and the new daddy of course, enjoying this special time I hope.
    Remember I chatted with you here months agos and I mentioned something not right with Pete Guidice from his tweets around or from Sept 17 onwards and when you say tactical interference maybe thats what was going on then as well?
    Hope you are taking care of yourself my daughter had c section 7 months ago thought she was superwoman when bub was 2 months old she down like a pack of cards didnt give herself time to heal. Cheers Tassie

    • February 21, 2013 at 1:59 AM

      Yes, I remember there was that weird twitter exchange, it didn’t sit well with me either. It was Pete distancing himself from the Greeks. Maybe it’s in the Guidice nature to stir trouble – it’s actually one of the things I like about Juicy, he’s naughty!

      I hit the wall a bit today, very tired so I put myself to bed. I’m just so proud of myself when I manage to do a load of washing and bath & feed us both!!! In my working life I play with helicopters and and cars and that one load of washing excites me as much as the first time I got to hang out the side of a chopper!

      • February 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM

        Hanging out of helicopters and cars… hmmmm You have me wondering what exactly it is you do… lol All I can say is God bless you for being fearless! To me, hanging out of the side of a chopper is scary as all get out. Don’t like heights… and although I have always challenged myself… I don’t think I could hang out of a chopper even if it was on the ground… lol I gotta say it makes it all the more hysterical to me that you compared it to the completion of one load of wash with a newborn! Too funny!

  43. Princess Vodka
    February 21, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    No matter what is going on, I’m going to give Tre the benefit of the doubt. We aren’t in her shoes or living her life.. I haven’t had a chance to read through all of the comments and maybe, if I had, my opinion would change. I have to believe, though, that she knows what is up and has her reasons. I will continue to support her, but will more than likely be frustrated by her at the same time. I have similar family situations and am not going to judge until I walk in her shoes. I also believe, like she has said before, that she is a very good employee of Bravo as well as being a loyal family member. Still wish she’d take that bitch down, brother be damned. Tired of all the innuendo and wish SOMEONE, anyone, would come out swinging. Also wish that there was a Twitter for Dummies!!!!!

    Sakem, hope those baby blues are better! You’re going to be a great momma so try not to stress!

    • February 21, 2013 at 1:52 AM

      We’re all good my Princess! Can’t wait till I can drink a bit of vodka myself!

      • Princess Vodka
        February 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

        Good to hear Sackem! I think I had enough for both of us last night :o)

    • February 22, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      Amen Princess Vodka! I so agree with you. My family (brothers, sister, dad) is in distress and I would hate it if someone judged me not knowing the entire situation. It wouldn’t be fair. Although I can judge Melissa all I want!! LOL Boy that does sound like a double standard but IMO Melissa is transparent and Teresa is complicated so I’ll get out of it by saying that.

      • February 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM

        Just want to clarify… what I mean by Teresa being complicated is she can come off as kinda ditzy and fun, but there are many other layers. She’s loyal to a fault… she’s obviously very family oriented… she has super entrepreneurial skills that you may not think she had if we didn’t know better… or maybe we would know… that’s what I mean… she’s much deeper than you’d first think. What’s the saying? Still waters run deep. Only her water has been churned up by Messy and Dumbo Marco.

  44. Princess Vodka
    February 21, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Sorry for the curse words. Don’t mean to offend anyone. On a bit of vodka tonight :D

    • February 21, 2013 at 1:51 AM

      Bwahahahaha!

  45. autumn
    February 21, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    I think as fans we’d be happy to see Teresa mend fences with her brother, if she didn’t include Melissa Whorga. Since we know poor Joe Gorga-Marco is a dumbo, and basically goes along with whatever the Marco family tells him, that will likely never happen. They are a “package” deal, and Melissa is a smart operator. She knows how to werk it, and how to werk him. I also think that if Teresa is once again trying to set aside differences, it only proves once again that she’s sincere in saying she loves her brother above all.

    I love MY brothers, and I have 7 of them. If I had a falling out, I’d do anything I could to fix it, even if it meant submitting myself to a certain amount of public judgement, putting up with a skanky bitchwife, sucking it up and smiling outwardly, whatever. I would not give up trying for a very long time, if ever.

    I don’t believe an ounce of the bullshit story being populated that this is all a diabolical plot by Bravo, utilizing Twitter as the tool to accomplish the plan. First, nobody at Bravo is that clever. I don’t even mean that sarcastically! To hatch a plot like what’s been alleged, would require dozens of people participating, from Bravo AND on Twitter. It would include the ho’wives going along. Does anyone really believe 2 dozen or more people are going to agree to set aside their personal agendas, to work on hatching a plot using Twitter, to benefit Bravo?

    What total nonsense.

    • February 22, 2013 at 1:15 PM

      I agree. I can understand Teresa wanting to patch things up with Joey no matter what. He’s her little brother who lost his way because of wifey… Jac and Caroline gave Teresa a hard time for blaming Melissa for it all, but how can they? It’s true! Whether it sounds harsh or hard to believe… it is what it is.

      I also agree that the Bravo/twitter plot is bs. We know there are things that are producer driven and coaxed, we know they play with time lines, that things are manipulated in the editing but I think people are getting carried away with the extent that Bravo controls. We know it’s not 100% real but I think it’s far from 100% fake.

  46. Jersey_Girl
    February 21, 2013 at 2:10 AM

    I was at the event with Penny’s party and can say Penny served the Gorgas with plenty. Joe and Melissa were scared to say a word. No Mario wasn’t there as a bodyguard, that was said as a Danielle Staub joke. Mario is HS friends with Penny and Johnny and was there with his girlfriend. We all jumped in the limo and went to event from Penny’s house. Actually joked about Mario playing bodyguard.
    There was plenty of action at the event and Penny was in control. Melissa and Joe shit when Penny went up to them. Funny thing was they kept complaining about Johnny’s twitter. It was hilarious.
    Yea there was a reconciliation, but you’ll never guess with who.
    So before you jump the gun and off Penny’s wagon, I suggest you wait because you’ll feel like a fool in the end. And yea, no pics of Penny with the others because Penny refused to take pics with any of them except the pics she took with us, her real friends. They tried to ambush Penny and once she opened her mouth they all backed up because Penny had others at the event ready to jump in at any time. Penny was ready for everyone and they realized it when they saw the faces behind her ready to jump in. They all looked like deers in headlights and shit the floor. Lol.

    • Honnie Badger
      February 21, 2013 at 8:46 AM

      Hi, JerseyGirl! I always liked reading about Penny and Johnny as they seem so authentic and down to earth. When I read how Penny gives of her time and money for charity, that warmed my heart for her. Personally, I don’t care about the whole shebang with Melissa, I would want to see more of Penny and Johnny as a fun-loving couple and her running her salon.

    • Jeannie5233
      February 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM

      Hey Jersey_Girl -

      Thanks for sharing this info. From anything I have ever read about Penny, I believe she is the real deal. Down to earth and calls it as she sees it.She has a good heart to boot, as well. Sounds like someone I would like to hang out with – she’s my kind of girl! I hate phoniness, bitchiness, and cattiness in women.

      I wish her alot of luck and success – I truly hope she is not given the shaft again. This nonsense needs to stop – the time is NOW!

      I am going to take a stab in the dark – It”s a real stretch and just a guess – the reconciliation was between JoeGo and JoeGi.

    • February 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM

      The bodyguard joke reference for Mario now makes total sense! All I can say is he could guard my body anytime!

      Why would they be complaining about JTG’s twitter? That’s some audacity considering how vile her sisters can be and the QOM.

      Guess we’ll just have to wait to watch when it airs!

    • LilyM
      February 21, 2013 at 8:38 PM

      From Jersey_Girl

      “Yea there was a reconciliation, but you’ll never guess with who”

      Danielle Staub and Teresa, maybe?? I hope so, maybe she was in the Milania launch party but no pictures, so not to mess up Bravo’s surprise for next season?? I know it can be just my wishful thinking … lol :)

  47. Anonymous
    February 21, 2013 at 2:27 AM

    Hi Jersey Girl,

    I must say, I while back I thought Penny was just put in to RHNJ to cause shit, BUT I am the first to eat my words and apoligze after I have read alittle about her and what she has done for her community.
    When you see some of the other housewives tweeter and how all is now sweet with the Gorgas, that just doesnt happen in a span of a couple of hours, I hope Penny doesnt come off as the trouble maker or any of her friends and family. Cheers TassieDevil

  48. autumn
    February 21, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    I don’t really get the Penny-bashing b/c the only stuff ppl know about her is what’s been put out ABOUT her by others who have never been friendly to or about her. I fell for it myself a long time ago, before realizing that I was being manipulated into believing what other ppl wanted me to believe/see.

    I hope Penny is as successful as any of the other cast members (excluding Katfish). If Brandi “F Everyone” Glanville can succeed, so can PDK. And good on PDK if she knows how to handle the asses. Certainly something Teresa could take a few lessons in.

  49. February 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    I just went and looked at QOM twitter feed and I have to tell you if there is a more despicable person on twitter, I would be very surprised. What a vile person, and the fact the The Gorgas and company are friends with said person speaks volumes as to their character and class. Such trash.

    • Jeannie5233
      February 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM

      You can’t get any lower than QoM – and anyone who condones him has a screw loose somewhere or as Jennifer Aniston said about Brad Pitt – “There’s a sensitivity chip missing.” A vile, despicable creature capable of manipulation – all behind a computer screen. One of the most COWARDLY individuals I have ever encountered in any way.

  50. February 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    I see that Radar online is reporting that Teresa is trying to out Albert’s affair. Boy she’s a piece of work with alot of time on her hands to plot and scheme and look after her family and a business

    • Jeannie5233
      February 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      Isn’t it amazing what Teresa is capable of? She caused Sandy, the meteor strike in Russia, and everything else that has gone wro0ng in the world.

      I think that was what was reported early on as far as the “storylines” were concerned – Teresa, being the malicious and vindictive person that she is, would be the center of not only exposing Melissa cheating on Joey but also exposing Albert’s affair as well. After all, Caroline went after Teresa and Teresa will do anything to get back at her for the terrible things Caroline did to her. What Bullsh@@t!! So tired of these plot lines.

      This is just ridiculous crap Bravo is trying to shove down our throats again.

      • my6girls2012
        February 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM

        Well for goodness sakes…if anyone knew what was going on with Albert and Caroline, it would be Jac. She apparently has ways of finding out things. And as some have mentioned…she’s been very quiet these past few days.

      • HDgurl
        February 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        LOL Jeannie – everything that is wrong with the world is the fault of Teresa and G.W. Bush! Too funny (more like ridiculous because it is sad, not funny.) I cannot keep up with all the twitter wars… I am so lost. I do know I am cleaning out my list of people I follow because of the foul mouthed, all caps, BS! Some people have the most appauling behavior!!! I feel so bad for Faux… I hope she doesn’t one day just decide to stop blogging and tweeting because of this crap… that would be a sad loss for all of us intelligent, level-headed people who enjoy following her and always look forward to what she has to say!

        • February 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM

          And it’s exactly what the Marcos want and what they are trying to do. They want the truthful bloggers off their tails/tales (works both ways… lol).

      • February 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM

        It’s been too quiet about the Manzos of late, someone needed attention or a break from the attention akin to “let’s change the subject”

  51. Octoberfest
    February 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Is Melissa’s hairline receding? Wow, I knew she had a big forehead but it’s looking bigger than ever in this blog photo with her hair pulled back like that. What a funny contrast between hers and Teresa’s almost non-existent one!

  52. HWAddict
    February 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Joe Gorga chickened out of confronting Penny because he can’t handle the truth about his wife. No man, especially an Italian man wants the world to know his wife cheats on him. I don’t blame him for that. However, Melissa doesn’t want Joe and Teresa to have a relationship and Joe answers to his wife before doing what is right.

  53. I live in the neighborhood
    February 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Dear Fame,

    I am just trying to put all the twitter drama together, as you know I have been a reader of you site since day one. I have the upmost respect for you and your readers who agree to disagree.

    There are a few things I have to put to rest, because a lot of people were not around to see the twitter wars. I just got a glimpse of what happened in the last few days from your website.

    Let me first state that I have a lot of respect for FRE aka GLH investigative abilities, and website. I also believe both of you when this season will be a drama a twitter. What I don’t like is the accusations thrown at people who are not on Bravo’s payroll.

    To be blunt, I cannot tolerate FRE accusations regarding frankabean. Frankabean is a wonderful, father, husband, brother, son, and friend. His heart is as big as an ocean. Yes I know.

    FRE goes too far with the threats against other tweeters; I am not refering to Queenz.

    I have watched FRE disagree with people on twitter, start a war, and then block. This to me is very bipolar.

    If FRE wants to be taken as a serious blogger, she should stick to her facts, opinions, and beliefs, but leave others who are not paid by Bravo alone.

    I have been told by former followers that I am not a Teresa fan.. I was blocked by people on here because they doubted my support of Teresa. You’re right to block my right to leave the craziness behind.

    • holy cannoli
      February 21, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      I can’t figure out this twitter drama at all. It’s all cra cra, and I think both Faux and Queenz are at fault, sorry I do. Both of them are rotten to each other,( personal info, cruel names, stalking / taunting, etc., no winners there in my opinion.

      What does surprise me is that Pete Guidice and Frank are all buddy/ buddy with Queenz, that person has been awful to Teresa and Joe.

      I am a Teresa fan, always have been. Nothing is going to change that.

    • Jennie C
      February 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM

      FRE is an assh*le, in my opinion, and I hope her blog will wither up and croak. FRE is a sh*t stirrer and always was.

      This blog is the most professional, unbiased and all posts are really great reads. We get that FAME dislikes the motives of Melissa and Joe, as do many people, and FAME has an innate distrust of this couple, and uses facts to show that.

    • February 21, 2013 at 8:16 PM

      I agree with you ILINTN: People who are not on Bravo’s payroll should be off limits — they didn’t trade their privacy for a paycheck.

      • Autumn
        February 22, 2013 at 1:19 AM

        I’m glad to see I’m not alone in wondering how ppl who had a falling out with an extremely despicable person, could be tee-hee’ing with them now. That I simply don’t understand–enemies being brought together by uniting against other common enemies is so wrong, so immoral. It’s so wrong.

        Jumping in the rattlesnake pit must be irresistible to some ppl.

        Re: Manzos My little source still stands by his story that the Manzos & Gorgas have kind of had a falling out b/c of the competition (Jealousy) between them. The Manzos ALLEGEDLY gossip behind Marco family’s backs, about how low-class they are & they don’t want that rubbing off on their clean cut image. This is all based on hearsay from someone who claims to have been privy to a few convos. It was repeated to me but I can’t confirm.

        I don’t follow any of them, so I can’t say whether things are still cozy with them all or not–the love fest they had last year was nauseating tho.

      • February 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM

        I think that should depend on whether they were brought in by others or whether they inserted themselves into the drama and even added to the drama. This way of thinking is exactly what Melissa wants. That would mean her hands stay clean and the ones who are “private” can get in all their jabs unscathed? I don’t agree with that either. Bryan is a different story. He didn’t ask for this and even tried to avoid it for two years now. But as far as the others, what you give is what you get.

  54. Anna
    February 21, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Everyone will act like they are giving Teresa a second chance when in reality they are setting her up once again and make everything is her fault. That Penny is talking and Teresa gets the blame.
    So I’d love to see how Teresa talks with this Penny, for curiosity’s sake alone. One mistake and boom here we go again… hopefully she will not be taken down. I, personally became fan and did sympathize with teresa because I felt bad for her. She was unjustly thrown under the bus by her brother and other castmembers. Not because I buy her books, haircair and other stuff and believe she has incredible talent and many people are like me, only sympathize Teresa for the situation she is in because we are human viewers.
    That what makes everything much worse, sympathy can go and never come back. I hope she knows what she is doing with people like Kim D and Penny who likes to bring Manzo/Melissa stuff to the group. Because they are doing the same thing what Melissa did when she promised to Bravo that she wil Take Teresa down. If Teresa is fair she will not play with the “ugly” (meaning, the “bad girls”).

    • shibajonz
      February 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM

      Penny is not out to bring Theresa down.

  55. Olive
    February 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    What now? Their fans are at each others throats, & Teresa/Melissa just walk off in the sunset? lol
    Don’t get me wrong… They’re family and family comes first. I’m happy that they have reconciled. I just feel that fans were being used, & now, we’re tossed to the side. Some of you may disagree with what I am saying, but, Melissa and her sisters have consistently and without provocation involved fans in their attacks of Tre fans on twitter… And when there was a reconciliation, we weren’t told. NO! We all see queenz, along with a few of Teresa’s fans, that she confided in, chatting away on twitter.. It’s clear to me that the reconciliation happened well before it was made public knowledge. And the only fans that were privy to this information was the ONE that Melissa values. Queens! That disgusting animal doesn’t associate with Teresa fans.. So, when you first saw qom tweeting/apologizing to Teresa fans, is most likely when the reconciliation took place.
    Melissa’s mouthpiece to the rescue! whether Teresa and Melissa have made up, or not.. i don’t think anyone who hides behind, and feeds QOM info deserves a place in my living room. Melissa doesn’t deserve a platform to spread the disease that comes from her mouth pieces face. After all, Queenz is speaking on Melissa’s behalf. The brain tumor comments were disturbing. Yuck!

    Btw, Teresa fans, how much can an apology mean, when it’s based on who Melissa’s talking to at the time? That is so middle school, that I can literally smell new paper and pencil shavings. #nogluesorry

    • oldnjlady
      February 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      There is an old saying Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

  56. love4fame
    February 21, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    i just don’t get it, for months we’ve been waiting for somebody, anybody to put Meho in her place. Now that it MIGHT happen were not happy about how? We wanted Penny to help T, or anybody. Yes we hope she does make up with her brother, or do we really? I personally like T and no matter what I will. I like Penny, don’t know her yet but i have high hopes. If things go my way Meho and her troll husband will get what they deserve. I hope that the rest of the family is left out of the mess. I also hope catfish, and her disgusting husband are fired to never return. As far as the rest of them go i hope they pay for their famewhoring as well, but Meho’s i want it to be a public bashing.

  57. February 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Does anyone else have a hard time following some of these blog posts – seems like it is sometimes just a random smattering of information?

    • February 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM

      Lyn — It’s not hard to get used to. The blog post starts with a main theme and then folks randomly comment throughout the day sometimes interjecting new info. It can be confusing but not too hard to get used too.

  58. lilly
    February 21, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Joe Giudice vs Joe Gorga fight!

  59. gemini82
    February 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Not to be mean but teresa married the better looking giudice. Sure petro look like juicy but juicy look better.

  60. SolarMoon
    February 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    lmao, melissa posted this old instrgram pic instagr.am/p/WAORt9JCw_/ of her at the spec house, that she and lil joe marco got kicked out of,claiming she’s doing a photo shoot cover today for her fake book, you can tell that pic is old, she is really slim looking in that instagram pic, her recent pics at Teresa’s event,she’s looking bloated and chubby, she might be pregnant

    • my6girls2012
      February 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM

      Solarmoon, just looked at the pic you mentioned. Why is Melissa’s makeup bag lying on that empty table? Hmmm

      • February 21, 2013 at 6:56 PM

        I noticed that also. I thought why carry my makeup bag around in my own house. I did see their Christmas Card picture on the wall.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM

        The man in the photo is her makeup man George Miguel – that is probably his makeup case that he uses for his clients.

    • Becca
      February 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

      Ok, I get super annoyed that Joey follows Melissa around to every event she goes to, just to get his ugly mug out there, but I’m actually really surprised he wasn’t involved in this photo shoot. I know she’s “writing” it, but it’s a book about marriage so you would think it would be pictures of her and her husband, I think this would be the one time where he would be there and it would actually be appropriate and not pathetic or annoying. I actually thought the cover would be a picture of them at their wedding or something, that mades sense. IDK, this just seems odd to me, but then again, it shows how fame hungry and narcissistic Melissa really is.

  61. AnneMarie
    February 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    I skimmed some of the comments, so I’m not sure if this has been addressed or not. Tre just posted on her official website about the success of her launch party. It went very well and she is still getting a lot of positive response about it. What is interesting is at the bottom of the blog. She add a bunch of photos from the party.. Some with attendees, Juicy Joe, her Milania hair team, I also think Jennifer was in a pic too. However, there wasn’t one with her beloved brother and SIL. If all is well with them, wouldn’t she add their photo as well? I believe the website is http://www.teresagiudice.com I would copy and paste, but still using my phone. My computers are still pro-gorga and won’t let me comment :(

    • oldnjlady
      February 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM

      AnneMarie Love the computer comment. LOL.
      I received an email from Teresa and Milania today with all the pictures. You are correct. No Fredo or Lookers. Guess Fredo open his mouth to the press a little to soon and was cut out of the pictures. Bad Move Fredo. Lost a chance for some press and the press you received for you comments all backfired and made you look like an ass.

  62. Jeannie5233
    February 21, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    I believe the Radaronline article: It quotes, straight from the horse’s husband’s mouth, Joe Gorga himself:

    “It’s a dirty situation right now.” He says the women agreed to do another season of RHONJ together, but, “they are not in a good place.” Joe tells us fans will see pictures of Melissa and Teresa posing together, but they are only doing photo ops (like one for a Milania Hair Care event on February 18) for the show. “We’re family,” an emotional Joe tells RumorFix exclusively.” She’s my blood, my sister … My heart is always open for her. When she’s really ready, without any of the bulls**t, I’m waiting for her.”

    There is NO RECONCILIATION between Joe and Teresa.

    • Anonymous
      February 21, 2013 at 5:24 PM

      Aussie Good Morning Jeannie
      Did you see Jennifers tweet between Mekissa seems all kiss and hugs plus photo, I think when we watch S5 we will need to go back to photos on the net as they may edit like s/4 and remember where and when it was their outfits may give them away? just a thought. I couldnt stay away from tweeter either NO BLOODY SELF CONTROL
      Cheers Tassie

  63. Jeannie5233
    February 21, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Apparently, there IS a RECONCILIATION between Caroline and Teresa if you believe the very latest at RadaronLine. Hmmmm – just in time for the release of her new book. Read about how it all came about at the link below. What’s next – a world summit between North and South Korea?!?!? Also, it looks like Melissa just may get the villian edit after all – the new producers are not as enamored with as the old ones were!!

    http://www.realitytea.com/2013/02/21/teresa-giudice-turns-to-caroline-manzo-to-help-with-family-reconciliation-on-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/

    • February 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM

      I thought Teresa outed Albert for cheating … that was on all about the RH this am. So confused.

      • February 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM

        You are not the only one confused. I believe Bravo does plant stories and commenters in certain blogs and/or news media outlets. From what I have read, I do not believe the filming is coinciding with the scripting. Added to this situation the possible Gorga forclosure and Bryan. I know Bravo did not see those two situations coming. In haste, Bravo is scrambling to get the story that is more in line with the filming to the media.

        It has been my experience, especially after seeing Bryan’s story unfold on this blog, ROL and RT, in addition to being unreliable, steal stories from other bloggers. Those other 50+ blogs I encountered before finding Fame, are just using material recycled from this blog and a few others.

        Bravo has a problem with Carolyn and Melissa. Book deals are not made overnight and in most cases the timing of the release is also important (one is to be released right before Season 5, the other one right after it ends). Considering the media tour the mean girls took right after Season 4 and all of the magazine stories about poor Melissa, the people still do not embrace Carolyn, Melissa, Jac or Kathy. I also believe Bravo does not know what to do with Jac and Kathy.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 21, 2013 at 8:20 PM

        Isn’t this somethin’ mzjules – every day there is a new story – a new angle. It was talked about awhile ago that this would be a part of s5′s storylines for Teresa. Next thing you know it will be Teresa who Al had the affair with – this is so twisted!!

        And I believe Fame – all of these “stories” are being leaked by Bravo.

        I also think Penny is going to be thrown under the bus by Kim D. and Bravo – she will be the scapegoat along with Teresa.

        • February 21, 2013 at 9:04 PM

          We read all of these stories here months ago via Chris Stark and Fame and I thought yeah whatever — no way. Now everyday I wake up it’s a new “leaked” article that ties right back to the Bravo plot line from back then.

          I don’t know if Bravo is reading the blogs to put the false info out there — or if they are sticking with this plot line.

          I would agree with you on Penny getting thrown under the bus or at least the editing room floor. If they make Teresa the scapegoat again, I won’t even watch Top Chef anymore (and I love that show).

    • February 21, 2013 at 5:35 PM

      Jeannie — that was mean, I didn’t check the link 1st and just clicked since it was from you. It took me to RT and of course I had to read the comments, now I will go shower. :)

      • Jeannie5233
        February 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM

        Oh my goodness, mzjulesaz! It’s bad enough we are all soooo confused already but I said Radaronline and the link was for RealityTea. SOO SORRY! Totally unintentional! ;(

        • February 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM

          No worries, was just picking on you. Have to find some humor in all of this.

          • Jeannie5233
            February 21, 2013 at 8:14 PM

            :)

    • Calypso
      February 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM

      I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch – Caroline “the great advice giver” does have a book coming out soon and Teresa has made sure we all know she’s a good employee. At one time most of liked Caroline for her no bullsh!t opinion and straight forward attitude, so who better to revive the role and Teresa has thrown a few bones to the hungry wolves – I mean wives – lately to support them.

      w

      • February 21, 2013 at 8:00 PM

        Caroline missed the bus for her book — I would have bought it in season 1 or 2, but not now.

        • HWAddict
          February 21, 2013 at 9:50 PM

          ITA

  64. Anonymous
    February 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Thanks Jeannie and all for the updates. Very much appreciated and while we are all Teresa fans I appreciate the fair and balanced opinions. Franky I would not be surprised if Teresa was triumphant. The fans of RHONJ are sick of the nasty editing and the attempt to make Tre the villain when it makes no sense to the viewers. Penny obviously has her own business, a well established charity her own group of friends and most importantly Teresa’s back. If Teresa reconciles with the Gorgas it’s not just because they are family….Teresa is loyal and always takes the high road. She is a woman who is naturally classy.

  65. February 21, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Lost the link where we can vote daily – the one where Teresa is a finalist. Thanks anyone lol :)

  66. Anna
  67. Jersey
    February 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Penny may be a nice person, but she and Johnny don’t have the big bucks that would make Andy want to sign them. Johnny does not own his own restaurant. He works behind the counter at Rhutts Hut. Penny was forced out of her Salon because she did not pay her rent. She says she is opening another Salon, but where? In my opinion, she not opening a salon because these people don’t even own there own house. What bank is going to give these people a business loan with no collateral.

    • Ana-Capri
      February 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM

      How do you know this?

      • Jersey
        February 21, 2013 at 8:08 PM

        I live in Jersey and know people who know their family. If who come to Jersey you will see him working behind the counter and you will see Penny’s landlord running his old salon in North Arlington nj, My brother has a real estate license and I did a tax search in Paramus NJ and their name is not listed as homeowners. Trust me I am telling the truth.

        • SolarMoon
          February 21, 2013 at 8:37 PM

          JERSEY, LOL,why are you having your brother ,with a real estate license, stalk penny and johnny, do your own stalking , on verified.com, you want a cookie ,bragging about your powerful brother with a real estate license, you sound dumber than lttle joe marco,lmao

          • February 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM

            Jersey is troll with the same story on the Greeks that shows up every few weeks, but never shows any proof.

            • Jersey
              February 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM

              Greek Chic, who is a supporter of Penny admitted that Johnny does not own the restaurant. She also admitted that Penny does not have the salon. Come to Clifton,NJ and you will see Johnny working behind the counter. Look up La Chateau Allure in North Arlington Nj and you will see it does not exist. I am just telling the truth solar moon and mzjulesaz. I am Team Teresa and if she starts socializing with Penny, Melissa will accuse her of building a relationship with people from her past because T is desperate to out her as a stripper and a cheater.
              Penny is being hired by Bravo to expose the truth about Mel and they will edit Penny as this fame whore who wants to be on tv. The Milania launch party proves it .

            • I live in the neighborhood
              February 22, 2013 at 10:17 AM

              Listen I live in the neighborhood, Ruts Hut has the most fabulous hotdogs, my Mom loves Johnny. You can own a home through a corporate name or LLC, I don’t know Penny but Johnny is the most lovable Teddy Bear at work, my Mom loves him. Penny has also always handled herself with class on twitter, unlike some housewives.

              • Jersey
                February 22, 2013 at 10:53 AM

                Yes I have been to Rhutts and he does have a wonderful personality. I am not anti Jonny and Penny, I am just stating the truth. The Gorgas are getting slammed by pretending to be something they are not and the same think will happen to them. Chasing fame through a reality show is not worth the stress it will put on you or your family.
                Rhutts chillie is also great.

    • SolarMoon
      February 21, 2013 at 8:27 PM

      HEY JERSEY,the same bank that gave litte joey marco and melissa a business loan,that’s who will give penny a loan,if those two crooks and grifters can get a loan, anybody can

      • Jersey
        February 22, 2013 at 10:15 AM

        In today’s economy, that is not happening. My husband has a successful construction company in Jersey and I can tell you that Joey Marco world is crumbling. He was a landscaper who know nothing about construction. He rode the real estate wave of the early 2000′s and did not save properly.

  68. Ana-Capri
    February 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    I am no longer worried about Teresa looking like the “bad guy”-after what they have ALL done to her and said about her, Joe and even her kids ( I still can’t BELIEVE the way Caroline treated Gia)- they really have it coming don’t you think? There comes a time when you just don’t sit and take it any longer! You know what they say “Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house”-and they all have plenty of skeletons in the their closets,so they had better buckle up-as Caroline loves to say, because their day is coming! I hope ;-)

    • February 21, 2013 at 8:42 PM

      I think Teresa already has had her day with her success and continues to do so, hence a lot of the anger/jealousy from the others. The best thing Tre can do is keep on climbing that mountain to success and leaving them in the dust.

  69. February 21, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    I am trying to keep up with all the threads and posts but there are so many that I don’t know if I got them all. This is a good thing :)

    • February 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      If you want to keep up this this thread. Start with the dates, then the times, like after 12 noon, after 6 pm. Just letting you know what I do. I enjoy (oh that guilty pleasure) each and every post. My problem, I jump on a new thread and fail to go back to the previous one. Working on that.

  70. February 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Tx for the link (again) – Keep reminding myself to vote—mainly cuz isn’t Ryan Seacrest in Andy’s posse? (I said POSSE – be nice now, lol!) Also, so far my vote goes through with no hijinks so far *knocks on wood*

    I like RHoBH/OC etc with the glam lifestyles/cars/shopping/lunches/locations, but that was never the draw for me with Jersey. First it was the Friendships & Family then the locale…as we all know, Teresa hit bankruptcy and this franchise became more reflective of the tough times we are all going through, you know? I’m therefore ok with (if the anonymous internet blog commenting real estate brother in law is correct–lmao) Penny is cast as a HW and is experiencing hard or in-between times. Kind of puts the REAL in the Real Housewives, right?

  71. February 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    PS: Emergency road closed winter storms closed my plant for the night shift tonight – so LOVING catching up here @ Famey’s Fab Famewhorga Blog! Loving the comments but must admit the whole twitter thing is beyond me… lol. Don’t get Pete Giudice allying with Q of M…or why anyone gives a flying f(&&amewhorga*&&% about someone named Franksabean????

  72. AnneMarie
    February 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Thanks oldnjlady for the comment! I would reply upthread, but I can’t because my phone won’t allow me. At least, I can still post a comment unlike my computers. I’m hoping that Tre approaches the family rift without the cameras. You never know if these people (esp the MeJoGo team) are doing it for the camera time or because they are truly trying to heal the hurt. And with Caroline getting involved… I’m thinking it won’t be for the better.

  73. LilyM
    February 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    From Jersey_Girl

    “Yea there was a reconciliation, but you’ll never guess with who”

    Danielle Staub and Teresa, maybe?? I hope so, maybe she was in the Milania launch party but no pictures, so not to mess up Bravo’s surprise for next season?? I know, it can be just my wishful thinking … lol

    • Marcy
      February 22, 2013 at 12:04 AM

      LilyM I read Danielle was there. And has the good’s on Caroline

  74. Rachel
    February 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Friends, in reading the blogs lately, I have come to a realization that RHONJ season 5 will be a continuation of the bullcrap that took place last season. I say we all take to twitter and let Andy know that we, as viewers will not stand for this. We all need to do it on one day, as a united front! Lets show him what we are about, lets not watch RHOA or RHOBH so that they can see that we will not stand for all this negativity in the RH brand. I, for one, am tired of the drama and negativity.

    Bravo is acting as if the viewers have no brain and we will stand for anything and I am THROUGH! I am not stupid, nor will I ever be, I watch reality television for mindless entertainment but I am a wife, a daughter, a sister and an aunt first! and it hurts me to see families being destroyed for a reality craze that will last a couple of more years. It pains me to see the Gorga parents and what they have to go through because their son wants to realize his wife’s dream of being famous and with Bravo backing them, they will hurt whoever they can to make that dream a reality. As bad as I think of Melissa, that woman is loyal to her sisters and mother, you never hear her say a bad word about them (even when they were chummy with Tre) Her husband on the other hand is the opposite, a man who lacks scruples, intelligence, loyalty and (pardon me saying this) gonads! I do not understand how they can have such volatile people, like Jacqueline, in their show. I mean the woman, a mother of three children (one with autism) has so much hatred towards one individual that she will do anything to hurt them but I mean what can we expect since we see her exploit her children for the sake of a tv show. What she did with Ashley was sad, and if I had a mother like that I would too move to the other side of the country.

    What they have done to Brian is disgusting! people from the Marco/Gorga camp have gone out of their way to defame and hurt a hardworking man who is only trying to tell his truth! He owes them nothing and should not be attacked! I do not understand how Bravo & Andy have not gone out of their way to silence people like QoM who have no problem going there to hurt people. They (QoM and the like) need to realize while they are trying to scare Brian into darkness we, the fans, will be behind him to push him back into the light in order to tell the truth! Ahh truth, such a wonderful thing that the Gorgas, Wakiles and Laurita’s do not know!

    With blogs and twitter going crazy, I wonder how the Bravo producers will twist the truth. I can honestly say that I will not be watching to find out.

    • February 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

      An excellent comment Rachel. I agree 100%!

      • Rachel
        February 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM

        thanks fame! I will be reading your blog in order to keep up with the new RHONJ season because I refuse to watch it!!!! My husband thinks that I should stop watching these shows because as he tells me “they make you mean.” For the first time in our marriage I have told him he was right….it was a happy day for him… :)

        • Daisymay
          February 22, 2013 at 12:26 AM

          I’ve been reading these blogs for over 2 years and haven’t watched once. Far more satisfying! I live next to Franklin lakes, had a business there and enjoy watching this shake out…

        • February 22, 2013 at 1:17 AM

          LOL!

    • February 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM

      I feel the same way and have promised myself I won’t watch.

      • Rachel
        February 23, 2013 at 3:35 AM

        def my husband won’t let me so i stick to blogs to find out whats going on!

    • February 22, 2013 at 1:16 AM

      Great post!

      • Rachel
        February 23, 2013 at 3:36 AM

        thanks! I get so angry! I don’t have children but I can only imagine what those parents feel

  75. February 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    Hi everyone!

    I spoke to my source today to get the scoop on the Milania launch party, and I just updated the article with what I learned. Here is what I added.

    Jersey_Girl posted a comment at Fame-Whorgas on February 20, 2013, describing what happened at the Milania launch party — I talked to my source, and the source confirms what Jersey_Girl said. Here is Jersey_Girl’s comment:

    “I was at the event with Penny’s party and can say Penny served the Gorgas with plenty. Joe and Melissa were scared to say a word. No, Mario wasn’t there as a bodyguard — that was said as a Danielle Staub joke. Mario is High School friends with Penny and Johnny and was there with his girlfriend. We all jumped in the limo and went to event from Penny’s house. Actually joked about Mario playing bodyguard.

    “There was plenty of action at the event and Penny was in control. Melissa and Joe shit when Penny went up to them. Funny thing was they kept complaining about Johnny’s twitter. It was hilarious.

    “Yea, there was a reconciliation, but you’ll never guess with who.

    “There were no pictures of Penny with the others because Penny refused to take picturess with any of them except the pictures she took with us, her real friends. They tried to ambush Penny and once she opened her mouth they all backed up because Penny had others at the event ready to jump in at any time. Penny was ready for everyone, and they realized it when they saw the faces behind her ready to jump in. They all looked like deers in headlights and shit the floor. Lol.”

    My source says the reconciliation was not between Melissa and Teresa or between the two Joes. Apparently, the producers wanted Melissa and Joe to confront Penny about the phone call she placed to Mike (a friend of Bryan Bowen’s and Penny’s husband, John), who told Teresa that Melissa cheated on Joe with Bryan for five or six years, starting almost from the beginning of her marriage. But Penny knew a confrontation was planned so she had people there at every table, some (including an old boyfriend and an old girlfriend of Melissa’s) who could confirm what Mike told Teresa during the phone call at the Holiday Posche Fashion Show on December 3, 2012, and this is why Melissa chickened out. The producers told Penny to go up to Melissa and Joe, and when she did, Teresa came in the middle of them and begged Penny to quash it with Melissa. Penny agreed to a reconciliation as long as Melissa and her minions stopped with the threats and outbreaks on Twitter against Penny’s family… and if she reneges on the promise, the game is on!

    • February 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

      Thanks for the update Fame!! If you’re able to can you find out if there’s a problem between Penny and Teresa? This is also one of the rumors going around on Twitter (of course) from the Milania party. I really hope that they are still friends (or at least friendly) and cool with each other. Thanks!!

      • February 21, 2013 at 11:28 PM

        I didn’t ask but I’m sure my source would have said something if there was a problem.

    • Jeannie5233
      February 22, 2013 at 12:00 AM

      Thanks Fame for the update! Guess my “stab in the dark” was wrong – LOL! Jersey_Girl was right – I never would have guessed that Penny and Melissa would come to an understanding. Penny was smart to bring people with her to back her up.

      It is going to be interesting to see how Bravo spins this and/or edits this. It will also be interesting to see if Queenz and the Marco camp stop. It speaks to who Penny is that she was willing NOT to go through with the plan; however, I really hope she doesn’t come to regret that decision. She is pretty trusting; I, on the other hand, do not trust Melissa and her minions one bit.

      • Jersey_Girl
        February 22, 2013 at 12:30 AM

        I’m sure Penny will never let her guard down when it comes to Melissa & company. Penny obviously knows the game just by the way she stumped everyone. She was ready for everyone and everything. It was exciting to see the camera people fumbling around asking each other what to do.

        • Anonymous
          February 22, 2013 at 12:41 AM

          Hi Jersey Girl

          It is good to hear Penny can hold her own, but as any woman we can take some things to heart, the cruel spiteful things said over at QM must be upsetting for her and her friends including you, thanks for letting us know alittle more about Penny. Cheers Tassie

        • oldnjlady
          February 22, 2013 at 1:10 AM

          Jersey_Girl
          Thanks for the information. I do have a question for you. In your opinion do you think that Fredo knows that his wife was cheating on him or is he believing all of Lookers lies?

        • February 22, 2013 at 2:13 AM

          Penny should take a look at this from 8:50 PM – Feb 20, 2013:

          BethWalt77 ‏@ManzillaKilla
          @QueenzOfMedia so Johnny sent Penny to an event, knowing Joe was fired up,without him showing up? Idgaf Who went he didn’t. Pussy
          Retweeted by Skylar & Grace

          love HW’S and Y&R ‏@hwandnewsjunkie
          @QueenzOfMedia They are obsessed with you! http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/the-giudices-and-gorgas-present-a-united-front-for-the-cameras-at-teresas-milania-launch-party/
          Retweeted by Skylar & Grace

          Carolyn O ‏@cko96
          @QueenzOfMedia famewhorgas has a new conspiracy theory blog up mentioning you again if u want a good laugh!

          Skylar & Grace Skylar & Grace ‏@QueenzOfMedia
          @cko96 lol you’re kidding? lol link please.

          Feb 20 Carolyn O Carolyn O ‏@cko96
          @QueenzOfMedia it’s funny because it’s very similar to faux’s conspiracy theory blog regarding you. FW is a different person no?

          Feb 20 Skylar & Grace Skylar & Grace ‏@QueenzOfMedia
          @cko96 I noticed at the very end of the blog it’s signed ” OldNJlady” is @OldNJlady the author? or a a contributor to the blog? lol

          Carolyn O Carolyn O ‏@cko96
          @QueenzOfMedia Either way,it’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read&the fact that FW tries 2make Penny/Jtg/Faux look like victims is a joke!
          1 Favorite
          Skylar & Grace
          12:10 PM – Feb 20, 2013

          Skylar & Grace ‏@QueenzOfMedia
          @cko96 yes that is beyond to me. lol

          • February 22, 2013 at 3:58 AM

            Oh jeez! Hey Queenz – they are victims. Victims of you!

        • Silvana
          February 22, 2013 at 3:06 AM

          Did the producers make Teresa step in or did she do that off her own back?? Why is she protecting that bitch??

          • Jersey
            February 22, 2013 at 10:25 AM

            She is protecting her brother. She loves him
            no matter what he does or says about her.

      • oldnjlady
        February 22, 2013 at 1:05 AM

        Jeannie
        So Teresa stepped in to save her brother and his pos wife again and Fredi return the favor by making that public statement that there was no reconciliation and there will not be one until Teresa is really ready and no BS.
        Teresa needs to finish taping this season of RHONJ and walk away from her brother. He is nothing but bad news to her and her family. One day when he is out of money and Looker moves on to her next prey maybe they can start to rebuild their relationship. Until he is free of Lookers he is too pussy whipped to see what he has done.

        • Jeannie5233
          February 22, 2013 at 8:29 AM

          I don’t think Joey will ever see what he has done as “wrong”. Whatever happens, he will continue to blame his sister for it for the rest of his life taking absolutely no responsibility for that is what narcissists do. That is something Teresa needs to – HAS TO – understand in her own mind and be able to reconcile it.

          It may take some doing but in order for her to be live at peace with herself that is what she will need to do. She’s not there yet but I believe there will come a time she will have her AHA moment. It is extremely difficult to let go of someone you love so much. It is one of the most difficult things to walk away from a family member even when they have caused so much dysfunction and toxicity. My heart hurts for her because as you and I discussed, we know what that is all about.

          For those so quick to judge Teresa, walk in her shoes – it ain’t easy. Especially when her parents come into play because believe me THAT is what is important to her right now.

        • February 22, 2013 at 11:58 AM

          I don’t think Teresa wants her brother to look bad on tv-and if she can prevent anything bad from coming out about him, she will, no matter what he says about her. It’s more important to Teresa to protect him and his children than it is for her to look “good” on tv. I really don’t think Tre cares what rumors are out there on twitter, or in blogs about HER, because she knows (as does her husband and her children) what the truth is. This is what she means when she says she is all about family! Even tho we may want Melissa’s skeletons to come out, Tre doesn’t, because that would only hurt her brother, her parents, and her niece and nephews. She is a very strong woman.

        • February 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM

          i dont think you ever stop worrying and TRYING to protect your brother,my older bro is gone to heaven now but my dad was hard on him ,n mama took up the slack so we kids learned to also,he married left her .would live under bridges ,or in fields .we d find him bring him home then he married again, then left her ,but was a lot like jogo he didnt appreciate us ,or what we did ,he continued til he got lung cancer then we took care of him over 2 yrs ,he did finally thank us when he was down n out ,he left us at 60. its sad to watch jogo going down and doesnt have to.

    • February 22, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      Finally this is starting to make sense!

  76. Anonymous
    February 22, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Hi Fame,

    I was just scooting around different sites, and clicking on sites when it said READ this Re: RHNJ it was saying bravo may now bring the show on earlier because to wait for June to much will be out due to Internet and LEAKS. Have you heard this? if they started filming Nov 2011 maybe they have enough for first couple of episodes.
    I have tried to find where I was reading this Im not computer smart but will try to go back where I started.
    Thanks again for your hard work
    Cheers Tassie

  77. February 22, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Sounds like Melissa wins again to me. :(

    • February 22, 2013 at 12:42 AM

      I think Teresa is being the dutiful sister – I hope that comes out. At some point though she’ll have to cut the apron strings to her brother even though that saying is about mothers!

    • oldnjlady
      February 22, 2013 at 3:50 AM

      it wasn’t the time or place to bring up the lookers dirty secrets. It will come out. Too many people know the real lookers. The question is, What does Fredo know?

      • Jeannie5233
        February 22, 2013 at 8:19 AM

        I believe Joe and Melissa know all about each other – that is why they are such a united front. They really work well together and were made for each other. And they are using that united front to save themselves. But that “front” is built on deception and lies; and it will come crumbling down because that never works. Not in this day and age. They have way too much bad history betwen the two of them for it not to come out eventually. Not only a stupid move; it will be a fatal one for them. Check – Checkmate!

    • Jeannie5233
      February 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM

      Joe and Melissa may have gained some time – but time is NOT on their side.

  78. Autumn
    February 22, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    Anyone remember all the “CONFIRMED INSIDE BRAVO SOURCE” information QoM was twittering about a few months back during the Scabbie Rabbies era? Slam after slam at Teresa, at JtG & wife, at “trehugger” fans.

    Would love to know JUST HOW MUCH of that info turned out to be dead-assed wrong. I believe most, if not all of it.

    I can’t put all that much faith in ‘sources’, even my own, and even on the Internet ! ::wink::

    • February 22, 2013 at 1:37 AM

      I remember Autumn: you tweeted Andy, and he denied calling Teresa’s fans “scabbie rabbies”. I didn’t know about the rest of it, but I’m not surprised, and I’m sure it turned out to be “dead-assed wrong”.

      Here’s my reply on November 26, 2012, to your comment about this:

      Autumnleaves6 cleared up with Andy Cohen the lie that Queenzofmedia spread on Twitter that Andy called Teresa’s fans scabby rabbies. Queenzofmedia do not have an inside source at Bravo. Their source is Melissa (and her sisters).

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/narcissists-joe-and-melissa-gorga-devalue-and-discard-teresa-with-no-remorse-they-see-her-as-a-threat-to-the-spotlight-to-which-they-feel-entitled

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/melissa-and-her-sisters-tweet-or-rt-negative-things-about-teresa/

      Here’s the tweet from Will Love to Dilettante@AutumnLeaves61 that explains RHONJ producer bias:

      Andy Cohen does play a role in the editing process. He has said so directly in interviews.

      With that said, overall @yourfriendkitty and @carolineself have the most editing power. They are the executive producers of Season 3 and Season 4 of #RHONJ. They work on location and off location. They send the editors what footage to use as well as tell them what to keep in and what to cut out.

      @carolineself is tight with the Manzos while @yourfriendkitty is tight with the Gorgas and Wakiles.

      Cat [Rodriguez] edited @PDKhair as well as multiple ex-coworkers of Melissa’s, who were present at the salon and fashion show, completely out of the two-part finale. Their interactions made the Angelo incident look g-rated. Obviously that move was deliberate.

      Furthermore, Cat held Penny back from defending Kim when Joe Gorga called Kim a drug addict, a cunt and went to punch her. Even worse, as you will see in the finale, Cat completely butchered the conversation Angelo had with a friend at the bar to make it appear as though Teresa masterminded everything.

      The unprofessionalism of Cat Rodriguez and Caroline Self is disgusting. In this economy, why are these the type of people who have employment? Only a network like @BravoTV would believe that their viewers are so incompetent that they wouldn’t see past the blatant bias.

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/category/producers-socialize-with-everyone-but-the-giudices/

      • February 22, 2013 at 1:54 AM

        Here is my comment before this, where I explain it:

        Submitted on 2012/09/18 at 2:24 PM

        Thank you kind readers for the compliments! I went searching for the truth because I couldn’t stand that the cast and crew were destroying a family. And then I started this blog to share what I found with everyone else. All the bloggers and commenters played a big part in helping put the pieces together. The cast even unwittingly helped us figure it out with their interviews, tweets and Bravo blogs. Loose lips sink ships!

        Shout out to FW reader Dilettante@AutumnLeaves61 for getting the scoop from Will Love!!! She is also the one who cleared up with Andy Cohen (on Twitter) the lie Queenzofmedia spread that Andy called Teresa’s fans scabby rabbies. Queenzofmedia does not have an inside source at Bravo — their source is Melissa and her sisters.

        The Marco Sisters Tweet or Retweet Negative Things About Teresa Giudice
        http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/melissa-and-her-sisters-tweet-or-rt-negative-things-about-teresa/

  79. Jeannie5233
    February 22, 2013 at 8:14 AM

    Someone upthread mentioned that Melissa shouldn’t be blamed for all of Joey Marco’s behavior. I agree wholeheartedly. I think Joe Gorga was a piece of work well before he met her. Between the two of them and their narcissism, they have become the perfect storm to wreak havoc on anyone who gets in their way.

    Bravo can spin and edit all they want – too much information is coming out. If they want to salvage Season5 they are going to have to do some turn arounds. And that doesn’t include making it look like Caroline and Teresa are “being civil”, in order to sell Caroline’s book. “Let me tell you something”, Bravo – frankly, who the hell cares? No one cares about Caroline or Jacqueline any more – they are just filler like the injectables in Jacs face.

    RHONJ is The Teresa Show. All anyone has to do is Google Teresa, Joey, or Melissas’ names and all this new information coming out is right there, just begging to be read. More and more people are becoming aware of the real truth – no matter what crap Bravo tries to put out there. And it’s blogs like Fame-Whorgas that are making it happen.

    Rght now Melissa and Joey are probably feeling like they won this battle because Penny didn’t say anything at the Launch. They shouldn’t get too comfortable. Penny will get what she knows out there, I have absolutely no doubt. The war is not over, folks!

    • shibajonz
      February 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM

      Anybody see Chris Stark’s twitter today? She just said that she had a “Buyer beware” attitude toward Brian/Bulldog – that’s a pretty big switch! What do you think she’s come across, I wonder?

      • shibajonz
        February 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

        Also called him,”manipulative and disingenuous”!

        • February 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM

          This comment has been moved to the article:

          Bryan ‘Bulldog’ Bowen is Not the ‘Mike’ Who Talked on the Phone to Teresa Giudice at the Holiday PFS on December 3, 2012

        • February 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM

          Personally I don’t care for Chris Stark, I think she is trying to insert herself in the drama. Just my opinion. Also I agree with another poster regarding Johnny and Penny. Who cares if they actually work for a living and are not rich, wait a minute no one else on RHONJ are either.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 22, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        For someone who is so ill herself with cancer, she needs to lay off Bryan. She knows damn well he is ill and that this is only more stress on him.

        chris stark‏@stark3923
        #rhoNJ THERE IS A REASON I DID NOT TWEET about @bulldog_nj = Bryan, Brian = Buyer Beware is MY ADVICE (is it easier to understand now? ug)

        Bryan‏@bulldog_nj
        @stark3923 is there something you would like to say to me young lady?

        chris stark‏@stark3923
        @bulldog_nj It is my experience that manipulative and disingenuous would be accurate descriptions OF Brian.

        Bryan‏@bulldog_nj
        @stark3923 lol really!? Good luck with that!

        CHERYL‏@charnois2
        @bulldog_nj @stark3923 so sayin this ur sayin that he is a fraud mmmmm MEho never denied knowing him in any interviews nor did her sisters

        chris stark‏@stark3923
        @charnois2 Brian had sex with Melissa Gorga = YES. UR reading interpretation of my tweet is insane IMO

        • Rachel
          February 22, 2013 at 6:56 PM

          calling shenanigans on Chris Stark I know she tweeted about Bryan and even commented to a post fame put up about bryan….or maybe i’m just not understanding it what she means…

          • shibajonz
            February 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM

            Very strange. She has completely stopped posting on this sight, though she still links. I guess everyone has their quirks. Disappointing though, she’s another great researcher and had seemed pretty impartial.

    • February 22, 2013 at 6:20 PM

      ms jeannie or fame have any of you voted then scrolled down to comment? most all are for lisa and i wrote things good about teresa and 6 sentences into my comment i was blocked and it said i was sent to spam so they are makin lisa win

  80. nsr1076
    February 22, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    I totally agree with ana-Capri about not caring that Teresa “look” like the bad guy. You know what with all they have done to her they deserve it and more. I just wish that she realizes that sometimes no matter what you do you can’t changea person. Once a shit always a shit.

    For now I’m supporting her by voting for her and I will watch the season but the rerun so I don’t give bravo ratings. If there is typos or no capitalizatins I aplogize but this tablet can’t keep up with my typing.

    • Anonymous
      February 22, 2013 at 9:32 AM

      Are you talking about voting on the Ryan Secreast poll? I keep trying to vote and every time it says “poll not loading properly” :( I don’t think it’s rigged, just wanna see if this is happening to anyone else.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM

        I have been having that come up too. I just revote and it goes through!

        • nsr1076
          February 23, 2013 at 1:05 AM

          I had that problem one day but then the next day it worked fine. I’m voting for her twice. One time from my cellphone and once from my computer. I really hope they don’t rig the poll either way we know she’s been on top.

          About Pete I think he enjoys being in front of the camera. He’s very different than his brother who hates it and acts all troll like, but I don’t think he runs the twitter account because when he opened it he tweeted a comment about how he had opened the account to defend his SIL and yet it seems that he is causing more trouble than helping.

          • nsr1076
            February 23, 2013 at 1:07 AM

            Maybe he’s been infected with the Marco virus. LOL

            • nsr1076
              February 23, 2013 at 1:09 AM

              I meant Whorga virus ;-)

  81. Jeannie5233
    February 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Here are Penny’s tweets from February 21st, 2013:

    Penny Drossos‏@PDKhair
    Where do some of these stories come from….. Amazing

    Tarra‏@Taylorr_L
    @PDKhair Girl I must’ve misread something!

    Penny Drossos‏@PDKhair
    @Taylorr_L lol …I must say some are so off it’s ridiculous

    arra‏@Taylorr_L
    @PDKhair The most recent one…has to be

  82. Jersey
    February 22, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Hey read ChrisStark’s twitter. She mentioned Life and Style states Bravo will introduce Penny as a successful Salon owner and Chris replied. I DISPUTE THIS. I guess she knows the truth. If Penny and Johnny have skeletons in their closets then it is not worth being on this show.

    • Jeannie5233
      February 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM

      Jersey – You say you are a Tre fan. Okay, but that is not necessary in order to be anti-Gorga. You say Johnny and Penny are trying to project themselves as being something they are not like the Gorgas have and this isn’t right. Then you say you like Penny and Johnny as people. Then you continuously post negative items and comments about them.

      So what if Penny doesn’t own a salon? So what if Johnny is a bartender? So what if they don’t own their house? And how do you know that this “fake image” they are trying to portray is really what is going on. Are you an insider? Do you know for a fact and have proof that Penny and Johnny went to Bravo selling themselves as wealthy, business owners?

      You obviously have an agenda in order for you to be continually so outspoken against them and against having them appear on the show. Sounds like you are invested somehow. Otherwise, what would explain your borderline obsession of taking every opportunity you can to be negative about two people who haven’t even appeared on the show yet. Just cause you live in Jersey doesn’t mean you have the inside scoop. I lived in Laguna Beach, CA and saw alot of filming for RHOOC – that doesn’t mean I have any “scoops”.

      Why don’t you wait to see how Bravo presents Johnny and Penny when Season 5 airs, giving them the benefit of the doubt and a fair shake before you start slamming them about their lifestyle.

      • Jersey
        February 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM

        I am Anti Gorga. I don’t like people who are willing to come on a reality show to “out” someone so they can persue their own agenda. Teresa came on the show and became a best selling author without airing out anybodies dirty laundry. Mel did this and if Penny is doing the same think to Mel that she did to her SIL then Penny is no better. It is a vicious cycle that should not be considered the norm in today’s society.

        What agenda would I have if I am a private person not seeking a career on TV. Penny is the one who has an obsession with outing Melissa for the sake of a career on TV. If she wasn’t willing to out Melissa than Bravo would not ask her to be on the show. Isn’t that an agenda? You don”t think someone is going to return the favor. Jennifer, a rich career woman who lives in Alpine, NJ fits the Bravo mold. Penny does not, she is being used and the events at the Milania launch party proves it.

        • Jeannie5233
          February 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM

          I understand your point – point taken about coming on a reality show to pursue a personal agenda. However, I am a pretty regular reader and poster here and I find it odd that usually the only time you post is when you have something negative to point out about Penny and Johnny. I am being totally honest here when I say I can’t remember you ever posting anything only about the Gorgas without bringing up the Greeks. Your comments have always involved the Greeks. That Is why I feel you do have some type of agenda or vested interest against them.

          Just calling it as I see it. That’s all.

          • Jersey
            February 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

            That is because I don’t want to repeat what is already been said. I have three boys and I live on a soccer, baseball and football field as well as a basketball court so I don’t always have time to write.
            Because of this book deal, Bravo will want to keep the Gorgas in positive
            Light. Penny’ revelations could kill this book, so Bravo planned to ambush her at Teresa.’s party. Gorga chickened out but is does not mean that Penny is safe. Hell nobody is

            • Jeannie5233
              February 22, 2013 at 5:37 PM

              Admirable that you don’t care to repeat what has already been said yet you constantly repeat your position about the Greeks. Not trying to nitpick – just stating a fact.

              It’s good you have so much going on in your life to keep you busy – we all do. Myself, I have been taking care of my terminally ill mother who is now in hospice for the past two years.

    • SolarMoon
      February 22, 2013 at 4:32 PM

      so what, joe gorga is not a successful builder of luxury homes,he’s installs pools and gazebos now, he makes money attending sleazy clubs with his auto tune singing wife, melissa and joey marco have skeletons in their closets, go away, Queenz of Media aka Jersey

      • Jersey
        February 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM

        Nope not a drag queen. Like I said I am Team Teresa. I respect her because she became a NY time best selling author without airing anybody dirt laundry. How old are you Solor Moon? Show some class.

        • February 22, 2013 at 7:57 PM

          LMAO – “PROSDITUTION WHORA!!!” is kind of the epitome of the dirty laundry…the hamper…the clothes line AND the dry cleaning! I get a kick out of your posts Jersey, but do think Jeannie and the ever-classy and mature Solar have hit the nail on your head. :)

        • SolarMoon
          February 22, 2013 at 8:50 PM

          like you got class,Queenz, bragging about your real estate brother and how you got info about penny and johnny,you tweet about penny and johnny everyday,ain’t nobody got time for that,no you didn’t come up in here saying you a soccer mom of three kids, you tripping Queenz aka Jersey

          • Jersey
            February 23, 2013 at 12:10 AM

            Solor Moon, you are a crazy human being. Who are you? Penny. You can”t handle the truth that you are a wannabe like Melissa who will be willing to trash people to be TV for fame. I guess you need the money because you have no job and your husband fries hot dogs for a living. It speaks wonders that Chris Stark agrees with me.

            • Jersey_Girl
              February 23, 2013 at 8:00 PM

              Jersey? Please change your name, I don’t want anyone to confuse us. You are by far infatuated with Johnny & Penny. Penny didn’t seek out Bravo you fatal attraction nutjob, she was brought into it. I went to the event & she handled herself with class and dignity. You criticize Johnny working in his family business? I’ve known them for years and know that Nohnny makes a pretty good living, gives his family more then what’s needed, and treats Penny like a queen. When did Penny or Johnny come out and act like these big time millionaires as you claim?
              After reading how you tried to search tax records of home ownership I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re a sick individual. Johnny is no fool. He knows getting involved in a reality show will find sick individuals like you doing just that. I told him about your posting & he laughed and said how his own cousins did that to him when he first bought the house because they couldn’t believe that he actually had that kind of money. He actually wanted to pull out his mortgage papers and show how he put it under his trust but I said stop. We all laughed because he said he wanted to scan the papers and send them out to his crazy family.
              So Jersey, if I were you I would go to Rutts and apologize to Johnny while you have the chance because he won’t be there for long. Yes, his family business but he’s involved in many other things. So good luck to you. Oh and btw, next time you supposedly “drive thru” N.Arlington, stop by her old landlord ask how he did in court, how many indictments he has against him, & how much restitution he’ll have to pay. Yes Jersey, Penny couldn’t open until she cleared her corp name because of all the fraud the old landlord committed.

              Poor Jersey, went against the Greeks & got smacked with truth. Thank you & Goodnight.

              Johnny & Penny, if you’re reading this, I’m sorry for sharing but I couldn’t stand by and read bullshit from people that don’t know a thing about you and thanks for always being there.

  83. February 22, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Again, it is an instance of Teresa is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t… by what the comments here indicate… this is true even amongst her fans.

    If she doesn’t ignore MeJoGo, or even more so… write them off completely, she is being foolish and naive and letting herself be duped and used by them. If she doesn’t have anything to do with them then it can look like Melissa was right all along… Teresa hates her… doesn’t value family… doesn’t want them to BE a family… etc. etc. What’s she to do? She’s being told here to watch herself, not give them any ammo, not step into a trap… well to completely assure that she’d have to film alone, without any cast, all season. Where’s Teresa in all of this? Should she be who we want her to be… do what we want her to do? Teresa has to be Teresa! She has to be true to herself. She has to do what she feels is right for her family. Bravo is going to do what Bravo is going to do. At least she has a blog where she can set things somewhat straight.

    We know the extent Bravo goes to to manipulate things with editing. For those that say “you blame editing for those you like but say it’s not true for those you don’t like.” Not true… we’re not saying Melissa isn’t edited… we just know she’s edited to look better than she is and Teresa is edited to look worse. But even with the editing, Teresa IMO STILL looked better than MeJoGo many times. I’m not so sure Teresa got such a bad edit last year. There were certain situations that didn’t go her way (Joe’s phone call) but how bad could it have been since so many came away as Teresa fans even though they weren’t previously fans. Many did think she was bullied and that Caroline was the head bully. Caroline was NOT popular last year so how did she get a good edit? Guess it’s true that as much as Bravo edits… they still can only do so much because they can only work with what each housewife gives them… for the most part. They did attempt to give Melissa a good edit… making it seem that she was taking care of Teresa’s kids during her launch party is one example. However, I think by now we can pretty much figure out who is who, with or without editing. Again, they can only work with what they housewife gives them.

    Fame I love you for doing all the research to back up what I had believed all along. We all believed it… but you PROVED it. There are always going to be those that don’t like Teresa and those that like Melissa, as crazy as it seems to us. Anyone who can like JoGo and think that he is “right” and Teresa is “wrong” after the very first episode where JoGo calls his sister garbage for no apparent reason is going to happily eat up Bravo’s skewed storyline without question and without using common sense. I know we all complain about editing, however, the former alone proves it doesn’t matter what the edit would be… they’re going to believe what they want to believe.

    Back to the original point I was trying to make… we should only expect Teresa to be Teresa. To do things as she sees fit and not worry about how Bravo can manipulate what she may say or do. In the end, that could backfire also and make her look fake and actually it would be because she was being fake… that may cost her more fans than it would save her. What’s the saying? I would rather be hated for who I am than to be liked for who I am not. Are you reading this Melissa?

    • Jeannie5233
      February 22, 2013 at 3:27 PM

      dch60 –

      Love this post! It is spot on! I said before – Teresa will lose fans because she will continue to be what fans fell in love with her in the first place for – a woman who has strong family values, takes responsibility for her actions, is loyal to a fault, and loves her family beyond measure. She is between a rock and a hard place right now.

      You explained her situation perfectly.

    • February 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM

      Great post as always dch!

      • February 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM

        Thank you Jeannie and mzjulesaz. It’s nice to have two posters of whom I have the utmost respect agree so heartily. Sometimes I find it hard to explain EXACTLY what I mean but I got it right this time… lol ;-)

    • Rachel
      February 23, 2013 at 3:31 AM

      I totally agree..going back on the phone convo with JoGo you can def tell she’s damned if she does or doesnt…she calls her brother tells her of the rumors that are going around and they jump down her throat….At the Posche fashion show she doesn’t tell Melissa of the rumors going around RIIGHT AWAY and they jump down her throat…she could never win so IMO I think she should forget about a relationship with her brother and just be there to bail him out when Melissa screws him over..I don’t think anyone realizes just how much child support this man would have to pay….maybe thats why he’s still with her despite the possible cheating

      • February 23, 2013 at 7:57 PM

        Oops… didn’t mean to leave you out Rachel. Forgive me! It’s so true that the absolute best way to describe what Teresa goes through is… she’s damned if she does and she’s damned if she doesn’t. That’s all she has to say at the reunions over and over and over… it fits just about every situation.

  84. Marty
    February 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    I think that at this point with all the crap out there about Meho and Joey Marco they should get fired. Why does Bravo even bother with them? They brought way to much darkness, jealousy and, pure evilness not only to a family but to the show. They add absolutely not one ounce positive adult behavior. At this point they are the most embarrassing grown couple in the history of the franchise.

    • embee
      February 22, 2013 at 8:16 PM

      and Bravo and Andy Cohen love them for it. That’s the problem … Bravo’s skewed moral compass.

  85. missym57
    February 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Hello everyone, I just read this article and it looks like Teresa may get some vidication this season. It may be false hope but here is the article for you to read:
    http://www.realitytea.com/2013/02/21/teresa-giudice-turns-to-caroline-manzo-to-help-with-family-reconciliation-on-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/

  86. February 22, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Off topic — UGH — I truly despise when work interferes with my internet time. I just found out I missed the Milania give away today. Dangit as I love my Milania! Hopefully others took advantage of the offer while it lasted! I guess they had an overwhelming response.

  87. Anna
    February 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    I think Jersey is right, Penny is bad news, she wil blame Teresa for the mess she is about to bring for a desperate paycheck. The latest article says it all. Sorry, if Penny is going after the Gorga’s, she’s doing the same thing what Melissa did when she went after Teresa from day one.
    We don’t like the Gorga’s, but are we hypocrites?
    Everything Teresa does wil be used against her and people like Penny and Kim D are like snakes, waiting for Teresa to open her mouth and then rape and twist her words for more problems and drama, because Bravo told them to do so for ratings. Nobody cares for Teresa in this matter.
    Teresa’s sole problem when put up against those snakes if problems start is her inability to articulate herself. It’s seems like she’s speaking more from the heart than from the head as she attempts to explain herself sometimes and not everything is clear for everybody (like a Wendy Willams, Anderson Cooper etc..) I hope Teresa wil do the right thing and knows better!!!
    The Bible also says that we should not cultivate a vengeful attitude.. Proverbs 24:29 counsels: “Do not say: ‘Just as he did to me, so I am going to do to him.’” Why not? For one thing, such an attitude is emotionally and physically damaging. Vengeful thoughts take away peace of mind and hinder sound reasoning.

    • Calypso
      February 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM

      To say Penny is bad news is true – but only for the Gorga’s.
      According to all the gossip lately, Penny could have caused a scene at the Milania Party, but didn’t. It could have been very different had Penny done so and this is what’s differs Penny from Melissa. I don’t think Penny is out to cause a fight but she is prepared in the event of one. For instance, she can know the truth about you and never tell, but don’t lie and expect her not to call you on it.
      Again according to the gossip, Melissa & Joe went looking for a fight with Penny and chickened out at the sight of an ex-boyfriend and friend not Penny caused a scene and attacked Mel & Joe unleashing the ex-boyfriend and friends knowledge of Mel’s past for the audience to humiliate them. If she did – it’s the best kept secret so far. I’d imagine having Penny around is going to put a big dent in the lies the Gorga’s can push as fact, knowing Penny can and is willing to call them on it unlike Teresa.
      Penny needs nothing from Teresa and should expect nothing from Teresa. Teresa will defend the family before she ever sides with anyone else this includes defending Melissa. Penny’s knowledge of Melissa doesn’t come from Teresa, so raping and twisting Teresa’s words will have zero effect.
      As for Teresa being inarticulate, yes in times of stress she is but Teresa clearly told everyone about Melissa but many chose to believe Teresa was jealous and out for revenge because Mel joined the show. I hope Teresa quietly enjoyed an “I told you so” to those who doubted her.

    • February 23, 2013 at 8:02 PM

      I understand what you’re saying about being hypocrites but it isn’t exactly the same. Melissa came on there with a mission for sure. However, Melissa wasn’t about the truth. Melissa would twist and turn things to make Teresa look like the bad guy when it wasn’t the case and she knew it. I guess it’s too early for me to say if Penny will do this, however, I believe there’s enough negative truths out there about Melissa that Penny won’t have to lie to put her in an unfavorable light.

  88. haydaki
    February 22, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Oh boy, people are pissed Teresa is winning that poll! I voted for her and made a comment. Everyone needs to show support and comment, thats how you get things shook up. Many of these people have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.

    • February 22, 2013 at 7:58 PM

      hey haydaki
      i voted for tre and then went to comment and 6 sentences into it they cut me off said they sent it to spam ,i think they want lisa to win if so we know its regged

      • haydaki
        February 22, 2013 at 8:07 PM

        Of course, they want Lisa to win. How would Teresa winning go with their storyline of Teresa being the most hated housewife? It won’t even be mentioned on WWHL if Teresa wins.

  89. lilly
    February 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Hey Gabriella Giudice got a twitter!
    @giudicegabby

  90. February 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    While I can feature Joe Whorga knowing and secretly loving Meho’s skanky past, I do not believe he would know or be able to process hook-ups/affairs/skank-ness AFTER their marriage.

  91. February 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM
  92. Jeannie5233
    February 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Well, supposedly Penny made a deal that Melissa would call off her minions and stop trashing her family. Here is Queenz’ tweet today, which is a direct slam at Johnny for a previous exchange between Queenz and himself about a week or so ago:

    Skylar & Grace‏@QueenzOfMedia
    It amazes me that the people who scream “leave kids out of it” etc are the very people who use their kids as pawns.

    BethWalt77‏@ManzillaKilla
    @QueenzOfMedia exactly…

    Miss_autumn‏@miss_autumnlamp
    @QueenzOfMedia U have that right!

    I would like to point out that @miss_autumn is NOT the Autumn that posts here just so there is no misunderstanding at all about that!!

    So much for Melissa keeping her end of the deal.

  93. LilyM
    February 22, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Voted and commented on poll, and I just wanted to say, TIME OUT !! OK, who cares if the Greeks go or not into the show, if Bravo is adamant to put Melissa in a good light they would care less about making Teresa the bad guy once again, the good thing is, in here we know that is not the truth, well almost everyone I forgot about Dee for a second there lol… Ok, back to my point, this is the last season I will watch of all the HW if they continue in the same direction, I don’t care if Teresa is not perfect, she as endure a lot IMO and is being rewarded with all the business success she is enjoying right now, not like the others losers that are dying with envy, to bad because we honest people we feel good when somebody close to us has some kind of success, anyway, what I am trying to say is that we are just getting mad for no reason at the moment, we already know what happened last season and don’t know whats gonna happen in the next, so lets all relax and wait… XOXO to all ! you make my days more interesting !! <3

    • February 22, 2013 at 10:31 PM

      Love your post. Hope all is good with your family. How is your mother-in-law? I still keep her in my prayers.

  94. haydaki
    February 22, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Does anyone else have a feeling on who will get the bad edit this year. My money is on Jac. This is how I feel things will play out. I think TERESA will not get the bad edit this year, that storyline is just too stale! I mean how many more reunions can they have where one person is being ganged up on by everyone else. However, I dont think she’ll get the coming up like roses edit either. I think they will show a friendlier,motherly side too her, but leave in all the hard knocks she deals with for a spinoff show.(Teresa will be gone after this year) Like Joe’s court case and family turmoil. Also more of Teresa’s business acumen will be forecasted. For example, her Milania Hair care launch and other business ventures.
    Melissa will not get the villain edit because they will need someone to be a bad edit in season 6, this year will be a transition into that role. Although, many things will be discussed about her background it will only be a spingboard for season 6. They wont want to totally turn her off and make her feel as if they dont have her back. Bravo knows she is desperate and like Teresa at one point, Melissa really needs the money. Producers will make sure she is foolish enough to come back season 6. When she gets the BAD edit, Teresa will be gone from the show.
    Kathy I wont even mention because she will be downgraded and there will be no more seasons for her.(she was only brought on board to try and validate how Melissa felt about Teresa) If Kathy hadn’t come on board, producers would have had a much harder time fitting Melissa into the show’s premise. Especially with Melissa having no real desire to team up with Teresa, but instead trying to bring her down with family drama.
    Jacqueline will get the bad edit and here’s why I think. I really believe Bravo had no intention on bringing her back as a full time housewife(part-time maybe, too cosign Caroline’s foolishness). She’s a loose cannon and quite frankly has absolutely no storyline. In my opinion, she waited to announce her sons diagnosis as leverage to remain on the show. However, this will backfire and they will make her look bad and boring with no real storyline other than being a backstabber. Bravo has no reason to try and protect her. She has no books or products selling, her CORPORATE VALUE to the franchise is ZERO. Bravo can bring ANYONE on the show to bring drama and cause problems for Teresa.(Ex. Penny and Kim D) These are other women who are willing to bring drama all around for everyone(not just Teresa) and that is a lot juicier and provides for more “scripting” for future seasons and cast shakeups. If she really wanted to stay she has to prove her worth and right now Melissa has her beat.
    Although, I do not care for Caroline, she is no dummy! She will make nice with Teresa to sell her book and end her turn on the series in a much better light. Caroline knows she came off looking bad the last two seasons and would be willing to throw Jacqueline under the bus to come away looking better. Bravo will not let her look bad, so that she can sell some of those advice books. Unlike Jacqueline, Caroline can put on her big girl pants and keep peace for business sake.

    • February 22, 2013 at 10:36 PM

      haydaki, I have to agree with you at this time. If Bravo is smart, things may go pretty much the way you have said. As far as Jac, I believe if Sandy would not have hit, she would have been canned. I believe this will be Caroline’s last season. I cannot wait to see how well the book does.

    • February 23, 2013 at 12:45 PM

      haydaki, I think you may have figured it all out :) Excellent post!

      • haydaki
        February 23, 2013 at 2:49 PM

        Fame, I enjoy reading your blog on a daily basis and all the opinions of the wonderful people here.

    • February 23, 2013 at 8:09 PM

      Oh how I hope you’re right in many of the things you predict. However, I’m not so sure about Jac getting a bad edit. I don’t understand why her situation (lawsuit) is not all over the blogs, rag mags, etc. like Teresa’s was in order to pave the way for it. Also, the situation with her son, even though I have doubts about exactly what she claims is going on with Nicholas, will make it kinda difficult for Bravo to give her a bad edit. Time will tell I suppose but I do like the way you think.

  95. February 22, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    I have read all of the posts as of this time. You have all said what I believe may happen. I go back and forth with my thoughts on how Bravo will spin this. With everything that is happening, I do not think Bravo knows how Season 5 will be played.

    A big shout out to Sackem. How is our honorary Goddaughter doing? I hope all is well with your family.

    • February 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      Ola. We’re great Moma! She’s such a delight. There times of the day when you can tell she just wants to be with her Mama. It’s so lovely getting cuddles. I’m through the blues but slip up every now and again. I just have to remind myself to to live in the present which isn’t always easy.

  96. haydaki
    February 22, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    Momajackie, you are so right about Hurricane Sandy, that probably kept a couple of them on the show as Full-time housewives. I do believe thats its Caroline’s last season. She will try to change her image to move on to other prospects.

  97. February 23, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    I have a running list of the most despicable HW’s in my head with Taylor Armstrong still #1 followed by a virtual tie between Gretchen (aiding and abetting-along with BRAVO-cash payments to Slade Slimey to avoid terminally ill child-support and JACQUELYN 2nd place. Melissa Whorga is 3rd on the list…because, primarily while I think she is a self-absorbed emotionally distant Mother…she hasn’t reached the despicable levels of the other 3 in terms of harming children (yet) for “fame.” (Or driven her husband to suicide and again>yet.)

    I agree that Hurricane Sandy stopped the cast shake-up…and without the conflict of interest producers, the corporate bean counters will go for the $$ makers….but remember, they may stick with the formula that they think is working – Gorga-Giudice feud. I’m sad to say I think they will tread carefully around Mother of Disabled Child Parent Magazine contributor. :( If only Caroline’s book would flop before filming ends, I think she would get the bad edit. (Not that they’d need to edit much, lol.) It’s looking like Melissa or Teresa from where I’m typing… :)

    • Jersey
      February 23, 2013 at 12:25 AM

      Oprah
      I agree, hurricane Sandy saved Wacko Jacko’s job. I am glad you think solar moon is immature. I am Team Teresa but it does not mean I have to be Team Penny and Johnny. I feel like a hypocrite if I support these people. I feel Penny is no different than Mel , if she joined this show to “out” someone. As an Italian American, I am disgusted that Joe was willing to drag his family through the mud so his fame whoring wife can have a music career. Exposing people’s past for a career in TV should not be considered the norm in society.

      • Jeannie5233
        February 23, 2013 at 4:45 AM

        “Penny is no different than Mel, if she joined this show to “out” someone.” You continually single out Penny and her “motive” for joining the show and seem to be offended with it. Many of these ladies signed up with a RH franchise with a motive. Taylor Armstrong continues to “out” her dead husband and his dirty laundry riding on the tails of that tragedy. Camille Grammer “outs” Kelsey and his shortcomings every chance she gets. Kyle Richards “outed” her sister Kim’s substance abuse and continues to talk about it feigning concern. And Brandi Glanville uses her 15 mins for revenge to “out” her ex husband Eddie and LeAnn. Even Lisa Vanderpump used Brandi’s situation of Eddie’s cheating as a springboard for her own series Vanderpump Rules. These are just a few examples – there are certainly more.

        You barely skim over the other castmembers’ actions, including Melissa and Joe’s; .yet you continually single out Penny and her “motive” for joining the show. Sorry – I’ll say it again – I call it as I see it. I find that to be very odd and suspect. Mostly every single one of these women is morally corrupt. Penny is no different than the rest of all the women in the Real Housewives franchises.

        You find Penny so offensive? I find it FAR more offensive that Bravo undermines women’s relationships with each other and portrays them as catty, self-absorbed bitches who have the inability to support one and other and be real friends. Now THAT is what is offensive and to use your words “should not be considered the norm in society.”

        – I agree with “Oprah” – then just turn the channel and stop watching.

        • Jeannie5233
          February 23, 2013 at 5:05 AM

          By the way, for someone who is so morally affronted by Penny going on the show to “out” Melissa, you certainly have played your part in “outing” Penny and Johnny’s financial situation.

          You actually took the time and effort to have someone look up their real estate history? Really? Then, you come on this blog and write comments all about their lifestyle and how “poor” they are. You don’t want to be a hypocrite? Well, you are – for that action alone.

          Oh, and I own my home – but it ‘s not in my name – it is in my family trust name. Just because you didn’t dig up anything, doesn’t mean you know scratch.

          • Jersey
            February 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

            I didn’t”t have to do heavy research, I live in the the neighborhood and seen him work behind the counter. Ruts is very famous for it’s hot dogs. People make it a point to stop there. For my job, I am in the town of North Arlington on a regular basis and noticed the Salon was closed and reopened with the old owners. I also got great info from desire diamond. She posted very personnel info on these two. Greek Chick even accused her of being a a relative. They both went back and forth exposing personal information about the family.

            • Jeannie5233
              February 23, 2013 at 12:49 PM

              I. Rest. My. Case.

    • February 23, 2013 at 1:22 PM

      oprah
      how did you come up with taylor being resp for hubby dying?
      i donot believe this,talk about proof ,i would need it

      • Jeannie5233
        February 23, 2013 at 1:37 PM

        Celi –

        I believe you are directing that question to me as Oprah did not bring up Russell Armstrong’s suicide; I did. I did not say Taylor was responsible for his death. What I did say is that even after her husband committed suicide, Taylor continues to speak badly of him; and uses it as her “storyline”. I find that to be despicable because even though he may have abused her; left her in a ton of debt; the man is DEAD and cannot speak to anything she says about him. This is also a woman who knowingly sold her FAKE Birkin bags as genuine to pay off a debt. I find Taylor reprehensible – far worse then Penny.

        Sorry if you were confused.

        • Jeannie5233
          February 23, 2013 at 2:11 PM

          I just reread Oprah’s comment – I guess she did bring up his suicide and I will let her address that with you Celi.

          • February 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM

            thanks ms. jeannie i still have to pray for taylor.

        • February 23, 2013 at 8:30 PM

          See I don’t believe for a moment that Russell abused Taylor in the way she said he did. If anything, there may have been mutual abuse, but EVERYTHING points to Taylor lying about the abuse. I knew it as soon as I heard she was claiming it. Just by the way she treated him season one. It was NOT that of an abused wife. There is much evidence that all the pictures, etc. were not from Russell’s abuse. She’s subhuman, the most evil a person can be.

    • haydaki
      February 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      I dont feel they will tread lightly around Jacqueline at all. The producers will just edit out or strictly limit her interactions with any autism projects that are filmed, and her son won’t be filmed very much at all.(how can viewers sympathize with something that is not shown?) Its quite easy to do, I mean Teresa does alot of good for her nephcure charity and the viewers dont see that. Thats why they film for many months, so they have lots of material to “paste” together. Think about it like this if they dont film her son much, they have nothing to protect. Oprah, I do agree with you about the Guidice/Gorga “family drama”, Bravo may still ride that train for ratings. However, they may walk a fine line and it wont take up the whole premise of the show.(only used to introduce Melissa in a slightly different light for future seasons)Producers will have to introduce new storylines with the other ladies in order to continue the series, because Teresa will be gone. It is my opinion that while producers are focusing on the current season, they are also looking forward to future seasons.

    • February 23, 2013 at 8:26 PM

      Oprah… I couldn’t agree with you more about Taylor Armstrong. As vile as Melissa is… (or many of the other housewives) Taylor is number one by a mile. Do you agree that she lied about all of the abuse and almost nothing happened the way she has said it did? Oh God, I won’t start. She makes my blood boil.

  98. February 23, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    I actually said that I think Solar Moon is “ever-classy” AND “mature.” But enough of that and back to the discussion, lol! :)

    Follow the money. If I were a down on my luck hair dresser and Real Housewives landed in my burb and I had the dirt on some skank I knew, I’d join the cast too. I think they ALL joined the cast…in every city…for a paycheck and a chance at fame/opportunity. I get what you’re saying that Teresa (who I also am a fan of btw) didn’t have an agenda per se, BUT she sure took the opportunity to “out” Danielle as a prostitution whorra, right? Smart girl, bringing the drama – and the rest of her well deserved success is history.

    You seem to be saying that this Penny would come on the show for free with her Melissa agenda, and I am simply saying that everybody wants/needs a paycheck. BRAVO ain’t knocking on the doors of unemployed hair stylists and their bartender hub’s for the Real Housewife franchise…Penny had to use what and who she knows to score this gig. So far, and especially compared to KimD, Penny seems like another smart Jersey Girl to me.

    If you’re looking for a lesson on “society’s norms” – I suggest turning the channel off BRAVO, lol. :) I watch this stuff cuz it’s for the most part hilarious and also reminds me of the soap operas I grew up watching with my Mom and Grams. (They weren’t looking for society norms even back when the sands were going through that hourglass – although we did go through boxes and boxes of Oxydol!)

    • Rachel
      February 23, 2013 at 3:19 AM

      i somewhat disagree, I dont think Tre outed Danielle…Caroline & Dina did, Tre called Danielle a “prozteetoution hoar” as a result of D pushing her buttons, thats what got her ignited but from what I remember she just distanced herself from D….She was even friends with D when Danielle “came to her shore house and *bleeped* a guy on her couch”…but agree on the fact that they all needed a paycheck!

      • Jersey
        February 23, 2013 at 1:47 PM

        It was Dina who outed Danielle about the book. This is why Dina is angry with Jax because she outed Dina and defended Danielle. Danielle pushed Teresa’s buttons and T lost it. When you agree to take Bravo’s paycheck, it comes with a heavy pricetag. You are a public figure and are subjected to criticism. For me the 250K is not worth the pain it causes your family. if Mel had dreams of becoming a singer than she should have auditioned for American Idol when she was in her 20′s.

        • February 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM

          We’ve discussed Jac’s outing if Dina here before at the table flipping dinner, there were some asides that made a bonus footage show. Can anyone remember what it was under? It was very interesting because it showed Caroline and Jacs “against” Dina and showed that there was something there as early as season 1 thus proving Teresa had nothing to do with the split. Besides, Jac stayed friendly with Danielle despite the accusations that Danielle caused trouble for Dina with Lexi and her father – something about paperwork permissions for the show… and of course Don Manzo refusing to remain silent when Dina asked her to. That family really needs to take their own advice which is why I don’t like the suggestion that Caroline steps up as mediator. I hope that’s just internet speak.

          • February 23, 2013 at 8:59 PM

            Yes, I remember what you’re remembering Sackie – but not the deets. And no, perhaps I’m not coherent enough to get my larger point across (decidedly so, lol) but no, I don’t think T “outted” Danielle…I’m just trying to say that she is not above the drama, and is actually quite good at bringing the drama – even early on. I don’t understand the other posters beef with whatever Penny’s motives/agenda is, because they ALL have to bring the drama to make it and/or stay on the show. I’m willing to give her a chance.

  99. Pink@Night
    February 23, 2013 at 3:15 AM

    I AM DONE!!
    No more NJHW for me. So over it.(All Bravo shows)
    Love my girls here, But my time can be used better!
    Will read here faithfully.
    Bless you Sakem and Princess Ava, & family.

    Bless you too Fame.

    • February 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM

      and you Pink!

  100. kim ba lee
    February 23, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    Rich W. posted a pic to twitter of him, Chris, Joe and Joe and the 2 Joe’s are wearing Nephcure shirts. They actually look like they want to be in the pic based on the way they have their arms around each other..

    • Olive
      February 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

      It is them against the fans. It’s fans vs fans, vs housewives. (its crazy) Can you imagine being in the public eye, having your vulnerabilities exposed? All they have is each other.. You’d think they would be smart enough to realize that. My belief is that they have moments of clarity, that is soon replaced by EGO, (I’m better than you moments) and the war starts all over again. I know they chose this life, but I do see how they would feel like they’re in their own little club. Especially the rowonj. Fans are hard on them.

  101. Calypso
    February 23, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    I’ve have to say there seems to be a lot of negative posts toward Penny and Johnny. Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion but the only real reason given for the negativity is that Penny joined the show only to take down Melissa. While this may be the reason Bravo hired her, the gossip surrounding Penny seems to prove she isn’t playing Bravo’s game. Outside of a phone call to Mike, what has she done to destroy Melissa? Melissa’s minions have done worse to Penny, Johnny and Bryan via twitter than that, proven by the twitter truce. Penny shows up to the Milania party with (if needed) proof and the once empty threat becomes very real to Melissa and now Penny can’t be trusted?
    I’m not out to change anyone’s opinion of Penny but I’m honest enough to say the quick onset of Penny is bad news – seems deliberate.

    • Jeannie5233
      February 23, 2013 at 12:53 PM

      I agree Calypso – “deliberate” being the operative word.

      • love4fame
        February 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

        it’s so funny that a month ago we were all behind penny, now it seems not so much. I will not let bravo or anyone on this site decide for me. Until i see the show i like her. I like that meho has someone who knows her lies. I like that she will call her out on it. I also like the fact she will call joey out on his bull too. Sometimes the truth hurts, and when T watches the show she will see for herself. I do believe she will stand by her brother, but her husband and kids come first. Before you ask they have all went after her whole family. So if Penny can bring some justice i’m happy about that. I also find it funny just months before the show is to air, the rumors have started to turn us all against what we have all be waiting for. Divide and conquer, lets stick together. meho deserves a public bashing like she gave Teresa and her family.

    • Olive
      February 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM

      What about the article Radar posted stating that Teresa and Kim probed Penny for information on the hws husbands. Specifically, Caros husband! It looks to me like Penny posted that article, and I simply don’t beleive one word of it. I do think Penny is desperate for a permenate spot on the show. Sorry if that offends you, but that’s how it looks to me. I don’t care for Mego.. I can’t stand her. However, I do feel that many outside forces are interfering with this family and the likelihood of a real reconciliation in the near future. There are 7 children involved here, can’t we consider the children? I’m unclear on what any of this drama has to do with Penny, other than her desire to be a cast in rhwonj? She knows Melissa? They share friends? Wtf does that have to do with anything? Why is she involved? Simply put.. Some of the people who claim to support Teresa aren’t helping Teresa at all. They’re hurting her. Everything Penny does, Teresa is accused of doing. When fans attack Joey Gorga, it hurts Teresa. He is her brother! Attack Mel’s character.. Have at it, but the minute you attack Joe, you’ve hurt Teresa.

      Btw, bulldog tweeted that he did NOT have a convo with Teresa and Penny as Mike? Are you going to brand the man that you want people to trust about Mego as a liar? Lets not do that please. Get Penny out of the picture. She’s trouble and she is creating confusion.

      • love4fame
        February 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM

        So to you her brother is more important than her parents, children, and husband ? It’s to late, this was a 2 year public bashing. Family comes first, well your right. That would be her husband and children. Her mother and father, did you not see what he said to her and his parents. The way they planned this to take her down. For fame, money a so called singing career. Whether you know it or not she will never feel the same about him again, and neither will her girls.

      • Calypso
        February 23, 2013 at 3:37 PM

        Olive, As I said I’m not out to change anyone’s opinion. I said it seems deliberate. I will tell you AGAIN, in my opinion it is odd that the day or so after the Milania Party where Melissa and Joe chickened out of confronting Penny (because of who she brought with her) that some are saying Penny is bad.
        I don’t get the rest of your rant. You say can’t we consider the children, don’t hurt Teresa, leave Joe out of it – BUT ATTACK MELISSA’S CHARACTER ALL YOU WANT. WOW!!! But, anything we say about Melissa gets blamed on Teresa and hurts Teresa. Well you can’t have both ways and neither can Teresa. Teresa is a grown woman and nothing we say about her brother and Melissa could possibly come close the everyday life situations she’s had with them off camera. Who do you think told us about them? TERESA! You’re authorizing – attacking Melissa’s character but won’t that hurt her kids and her husband? Melissa and Joe can attack whoever they want but we can’t say anything because it will hurt the kids and Teresa? Outside of filming Joe and Melissa have ZERO contact with Teresa, Juicy or their kids and that came from Teresa, so my opinion must devastate them. OK.
        Btw, don’t put words in my mouth about Bryan. Had you taken a moment and actually read what I wrote it said Mike – who Bryan said was a friend but he didn’t have knowledge of the phone call. My mention of Bryan was via twitter minions -specifically QoM and her sisters. What I do find odd is that you defend Bryan put down Penny & Johnny, you defend Teresa and also defend JoGo but down his wife Melissa.
        Let’s face facts: Melissa & Joe joined the show to take down – his sister, his own flesh and blood and paraded their line of lies about Teresa and Joe for the world to see. For what Fame and a Paycheck! Joe didn’t care about his family name, his parents, his sister, his god daughter, Melissa’s god daughter or anyone else other than himself and his wife. Joe is every bit as guilty as Melissa and both make me sick.
        Almost everyone wants Melissa and Joe to pay, face the music, or get what’s coming to them for the lies and what they’ve done to our show and Teresa. But, being the descent people we are aren’t willing to sacrifice anyone to do it. The fact is anyone who does it will be made out to be the villain (Penny). IMO, this is what the Gorga and Marco’s are relying on. Unless someone is willing to stoop to their level and not many are – they are safe. So we either have to let the volunteers come forward and support them in their actions or live with Gorga‘s lies and BS and let Melissa and Joe continue until they self-destruct.
        SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET HURT WHEN YOU STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT, BUT NOT STANDING UP AT ALL IS FAR WORSE AND I WILL STAND BEHIND PENNY, BRYAN, OR ONE ELSE THAT MAKES THAT SACRIFICE BECAUSE IT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO!

        • Jeannie5233
          February 24, 2013 at 7:56 AM

          Standing ovation, Calypso!!

        • February 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM

          amen cal ipso

  102. February 23, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Do you know what bugs me? People who use charity for self promotion and it looks like they’re at it again. Who was it that slammed Teresa for choosing Nephcure? Who admitted to not watching The Apprentice? Who was it that supports a twitter troll in their attack of brain tumours on one hand then wants to be a spokes person. Who was it that bashed Joe and Teresa the loudest at the reunion and on twitter but can still hang around for photo ops? Who could celebrate Teresa’s accolades to do with her charity work? Once a BUNCH of Famewhorgas, always a bunch of Famewhorgas. Let’s keep it up in the off season people and then we might believe you…

      • February 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM

        I hear you Sackem, but just seeing the cousins together makes it worthwhile. While the Marco-Gorga’s are scum, they are Teresa’s family as are the Wakilie’s. Many are divided by the potential reunion between Teresa and her family. I can understand

        • February 23, 2013 at 4:06 PM

          Sorry — my dog jumped on my lap and I posted too soon. I can understand why Teresa would want peace for her greater family. Do I think she will forget? Hell no, nor should she ever. But if they can make peace for the elderly parents and kids, why wouldn’t they? I get they used and abused Teresa to get their piece of the pie, but family is family.

          • Jersey
            February 23, 2013 at 5:27 PM

            If the cameras were not rolling her castmates would not be there. However, it is great that the cousins are together. I bet Don Caro’s book won’t be released until the season ends. I bet Don Caro is losing up to T this season, so people will buy her book.

        • Anonymous
          February 23, 2013 at 9:55 PM

          I honestly do hope for a reconciliation for Teresa – I wouldn’t wish family turmoil on my worst enemy. As a viewer I want resolution and conclusion but I want it to be honest. Underhanded reconciliation for appearance sake doesn’t satisfy me, it keeps the story afloat. Oh and it wouldn’t be so bad if the bady got some comeuppance in the end.
          As a human, I think Teresa is owed an apology, a public apology where people “own it” as the catch cry has been for 2 years, I don’t want her sense of loyalty to hurt persona and hence for her to walk into situations where she is bound by honour to behave a certain way as has been the case for two years. The therapy thing for example, was a colossal mistake but she was bound by her brother’s behaviour – if she didn’t go she looked bad but by going and airing her gripes, which she needed to edited for public consumption, wasn’t much better. Her only saving grace was that Joe let the facade down off camera to clue us into the manipulation. I want her to have the freedom to deal with the family issues openly which is why I enjoy this blog – it is exposing the manipulators for what they are!
          Sackem.

          • Jeannie5233
            February 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM

            I agree Sackem – it is not totally an issue of a vendetta to get Melissa and Joey. It is a matter of redemption for Teresa – after what all of the castmembers did to her – she deserves that.

            Hope you’re doing well and baby Ava too! I am glad you are enjoying those “quiet” moments with her – those are memories you will always treasure! The day I couldn’t pick up my last child because she was too big for me was a sad one indeed! Even though it may not feel like it, it goes sooo fast!

            Hugs! Jeannie

  103. Jazzy
    February 23, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    I’m lost. Who is Penny and what did Brian tweet?

    • February 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM

      Oh my. Read through the blogs about Bryan… there are a few of them and they are recent. To make it VERY short… Penny will be a friend to the housewives this coming season supposedly as Teresa’s friend but there’s a question as to whose side she’s really on… it may be no ones but her own… to bring drama to get an official housewife spot.

  104. February 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    In my opinion, we should wait until Season 5 airs before we decide what Penny’s motives might be. I do not trust Bravo and fear Penny will end up on the Bravo editing floor. I hope I am wrong.

    While thinking about a trip I have planned in March, I just realized, March starts next week. Why is Caroline not on Anderson, Wendy and all others who have a show and live in Andy’s pocket? The last time I checked, which was a few weeks ago, her yet to be released hardcover book was selling at a savings of 44%.

    Sackem, love your post, just above. From what we have all read, anything for a “photo op”. These people are not only famewhorgas, they are twisted and lack core values.

  105. Anna
    February 23, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Something tells me I shouldn’t trust this Penny but I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and wait and see what she actually offers if the show airs.
    But we all care for Teresa and if we didn’t, we wouldn’t bother posting/arguing about it so much.

  106. February 24, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    This is a great article, sincerely. Think it’s easy to see Teresa is putting her family first and at the end of the day that is all she has in the end. I will always dislike Melissa and she will never stop trying to destroy Teresa. This seems to be a never-ending nightmare for the Gorga parents to have such a horrible woman as their daughter-in-law.

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