Cheating Rumors About Melissa Gorga Surface at Holiday Posche Fashion Show on December 3, 2012

December 5, 2012

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Source Says Melissa Is a Cheater and Joe Gorga Allegedly Hit Her Because of It, and Melissa Hooked Up with a Former Boyfriend in 2009 While Married to Joe

Fame-Whorgas received an e-mail from a source (who requested to remain anonymous) about Melissa and her exploits before marrying Joe Gorga. Here it is, unedited, except for the last name of someone whose full name has not yet been revealed in the blogs:

1. Bulldog’s real name is Brian [last name edited out], who is her ex boyfriend & she met with him in Sushi Lounge parking lot [in 2009] where she blew him. [The source told me later that their friends who were with them at the Lounge witnessed them hooking up in the car... the car was rockin'!]

2. Joe caught her cheating on the boardwalk when they were dating/living together & allegedly punched her in the face & told her to get her shit out of his house. She then went back crying about being homeless so he took her back.

Bayonne Girl said on January 7 & 8, 2013 at FW:

Missy the Stalker cheated while married: Little over 4 years ago in Totowa, 3 years ago in Clifton, and 5 years ago in Lyndhurst. I’m from Bayonne, now in Tenefly, still have same friends, and I know the truth. Chasing guys in club bathrooms in exchange for her habits, perfecting her kneeling skills for other than prayer, parking lot hook ups for bonus, exchanging favors at a shore house for weeks for free tits, or the struggle of marrying a hard working man who provided for her and her only thanks to him was calling her ex to meet her for more than a hello? Lets get this straight Missy, you were a Ho, still are a Ho, and always be remembered a Ho. Joe had everything till he got manipulated by you and when he loses everything else he should put you back where he found you, dancing at Lookers. The only thing good he got out of you was 3 beautiful babies and he should keep them far away from your family before they taint them. Joe might have somewhat of a leash on her now (last 3 years) but not before. I know because our circle of friends are same and were there on different occasions even covering for her.

Teresa Giudice Will Be Shown Trying to Expose Melissa Gorga and Albert Manzo as Cheaters

Chris Stark’s source told her something similar about Melissa cheating plus some other disturbing news about season 5 of RHONJ. Note that the Posche Fashion Show was taped on December 3, 2012, and the only Housewife in attendance was Teresa, along with her friends (and, of course, Kim D), which is a big red flag!

The following are some of Chris Stark’s tweets from December 5, 2012.

2h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

@BluEyedMami @meredithashley_ @KimDPosche I AGREE — if they go after Melissa, it will just make Tre look vengeful. Pathetic imo.

2h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhoNJ @PDKhair n @JohnnyTheGrk gave a interview about Melissa “THE Whore Gorga”

2h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhoNJ Penny Drosso Karagiorgis is @PDKhair married to Johnny Karagiorgis who is @JohnnyTheGrk They owned the salon Kim D. and TRE filmed @S4

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhonj new story arc is Kim @KimDPosche trying to expose Albert Manzo of cheating and Melissa cheating with BullDog

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

BullDog aka “Butchy” … Mel lived with him for 2 years and cheated on Joe a few years ago with him

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3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

@Teresa_Giudice is being tricked into believing that Kim, Penny, and @Bravotv is HELPING TRE, but Bravo is setting TRE up again for a huge FALL

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

@KimDPosche is being PAID to expose Caroline and Mel with the help of Penny —>@PDKhair per Todd in production. BUT edit will make TRE bad AGAIN

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3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhoNJ My sources say Penny is still actively seeking to be a paid FRIEND of Housewives – “FOT” friend of Teresa. Enemy of Melissa.

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

KIM hosted another event last night and a lunch this Thursday and a girls night out on Saturday. #rhonj filming schedule

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

@TheLicks Happened last night = my friend over heard/saw KIM plotting……..Kim talks loud and is a nasty drinker…TRE’s face turned SOUR

7h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhonj Has been filming over a month now…and the Posche Fashion Show took place on Dec 3 at The Bottagra in Hawthorne NJ.

6h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

@SoFluffy2 WHO FILMED #rhonj IN NJ: Noelle Brescia, TRE/Juicy, KIM, Penny, Jennifer, Priscilla DeStasio. They are the “FOT” friends of Teresa

14h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

@BluEyedMami why? They are getting the victim and benevolent edit. TRE is getting the hateful, evil, revengeful edit… #rhonj

14h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

@PattiPMS57 @Teresa_Giudice @flygirljennifer not during s5… they added a ton of friends to faze out…the paid full time RH
2:07 AM – 5 Dec 12

2h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhoNJ Breaking NEWS on Melisa Gorga cheating on Joey Gorga. http://tl.gd/k8de6e

Brian B. aka Butchy aka BullDog is who Melissa lived with before Joe. Remember Joey said Mel had females roommates Mel needed to get away from? It was Butchy who was training to be a Mixed Martial Arts FighterMelissa hooked back up with Butchy several times after her marriage to Joey, even being caught giving Butchy a blow job in his car in a parking lot. Rumor has it he is the father of Joe and Mel son….I am sure it’s an unfounded rumor.

Robert Polumbo, who owned the salon before Penny, bought Melissa her breast implants. Melissa compensated Robert with sex. Especially at his shore house. Sex and cocaine was their thing.

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhoNJ **FACTS** Dear Teresa Giudice PLEASE stop trusting Kim DePaola @KimDPosche is NOT your true honest friend. http://tl.gd/k84los

Kim is using you to hurt you…her sole purpose is another “bring TRE down story arc”.

TRE, your story line this season is about your “relentlessness” in trying to destroy Melisa Gorga out of spite and YOU TRYING to destroy Caroline Manzo by exposing Albert as a cheater.

Kim told Bravo she can “deliver” you and make this whole MEL cheating, ALBERT MANZO cheating, blow up in your face… again. The truth will never come out. Its all a fake story line… again.

Penny is your friend and did not sell you out to Bravo. Penny is not a paid HW. Kim is being paid and has a major motive. I am told Penny loves and honors YOU… and just wants to help you but KIM and the Bravo Producers are in cahoots

This Thursday and this Saturday, during filming, again KIM is being paid to approach you and leak gossip about Melissa/Albert. Walk away and get yourself a new story arc … you will NOT be vindicated. @BravoAndy hates you! Bravo is lying to you… don’t let your ego fall for it again…

Ask the field producer Todd what he said to KIM…last NIGHT…and why all the producers had a major meeting during the filming…

TRE, you will look like you tried to bring poor Melissa down, and now you’re going to look like your trying to bring down Caroline and her marriage out of spite and revenge

Caroline has a contract with Bravo and her sons have a separate contract with Bravo… Bravo will not let Caroline or her family look bad at all. Caroline will get the Mother Teresa edit and you will get the nasty, jealous, revenge edit.

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhonj #2 the real truth behind the bravo filming ..KIM http://tl.gd/k84nnl

@KimDPosche said she would not give bravo any more free story lines and bravo still needs to connect the dots for TRE and MEL = “strippergate”…

KIM is a paid HW and promised BRAVO… “Kim promised Bravo she would deliver the goods on Melissa Gorga … what is happening is Kim is attending events and/or hosting events.. Nov 30 NJ Fund, Dec 1 PFS, Dec 4 fashion thing??, Dec 5 filming at Posche Store, this Thursday lunch and this Saturday’s “Girls Night Out”…

Bravo is filming and having Kim and Penny go up to Teresa Guidice and say things like – “do you want to know about your brother’s wife”AND Caroline Manzo’s husband cheated on Caroline, and that Penny knows all the scoop on Melissa Gorga and Albert Manzo through the Salon that Robert Polumbo OWNS….

Teresa, ask Roxanne what she said to KIM and Penny…..

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3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

WHO IS FILMING #rhoNJ: http://tl.gd/k8d5ks

WHO IS FILMING #rhoNJ: Teresa Guidice, Carolne Manzo, Jacqueline Laurita, Melissa Gorga, Kathy Wakile, Jennifer Dalton, Kim DePaola ‏= ALL PAID = BRAVO CONTRACT

FRIENDS FILMING = “FOT” = Friend of Teresa:

Elvira Grau, the event planner, DJ Envy’s Wife Gia Casey, Priscilla Distasio is Teresa’s makeup artist and best friend. Linda Berger is divorced with two sons and attended S4 Teresa premiere party.

Penny Drossos, the Solon owner where the Kim D, Teresa “StripperGate” took place, and is married to John Karagiorgis @JohnnyTheGrk = she filmed S4 but was completely cut out; her husband was filmed S4 – on cell phone Bald GUY – friends with Angelo Vrohidis

Noelle Brescia who is friends with Kim DePaola ‏

“FOM”: Friend of Melissa:

Melina Milionis, Kim Sozzi, Randy Narod (big time PR REP), Kathy and her family, Rosie, and the Marco Sisters.

Caroline Manzo has her kids, as well as her extended family – Jac, Chris, Dina

TERESA AND FRIENDS ARE GOING FOR A SPIN OFF SHOW****

CAROLINE HAS ONE WITH THE FILMING OF CHRIS/ALBIE’S RESTAURANT, plus her book coming out in March

All I seen Melissa doing is attending every party and every opening of an envelope.

3h chris stark chris stark ‏@stark3923

#rhoNJ #2 FILMING DETAILS EXPOSED: http://tl.gd/k8d4g6

#rhoNJ #2 FILMING DETAILS EXPOSED: Fri Nov 30 Teresa Guidice and Melissa Gorga, Kathy Wakile ATTENDED Elvira Grau’s Hurricane Sandy Fundraising Event at Space Odyssey.

Chris Manzo and Lauren attended the event

Juicy Joe, Joe Gorga, Richy Wakile,Kim D, Jennifer Dalton (the brand new HW), Melina Milionis, Kim Sozzi, Randy Narod (big time PR REP), as well as Elvira Grau — a Russian immigrant who was going to be the newest housewife. She made her first appearance during RHONJ season 2 episode 8, where she was the party planner for Teresa’s housewarming party

Caroline Manzo, Chris and Jac Laurita — Albie Manzo did not attend as they were in California for a paid appearance at a Walgreens Grand Opening. READ my twitter timeline for the complete details of that event.

@whoopibella @weloveandycohen

People Are Talking and Bravo May Be Saving It for Season 5

XXXSPOILERTXXXX on September 2, 2011 said at LipstickAlley.com:

I found this from a blog site. Also Melissa Gorga is a thug in a cocktail dress. I think she is mean and would sleep with the crew to get what she wants!!! She is also bi…

Comment by Samantha — May 17, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

I slept with this loser Joe, before I knew he was married to Melissa. She showed up at my house screaming, yelling, slashed my tires and threatening to kill me. He threw me a wad of money and left. He is a small dick pos, who gets his ego fed by bedding as many people as he can. I can’t believe this trailer trash is on tv. What a bunch of losers! What do u expect for “Short Man Syndrome” 5’6″ short! lol

Comment by Nicole — June 25, 2011 @ 9:52 am

Funny I also had a sexual relationship with Joe. I met him at Skybox Bar in Roselle a little while back. He never told me he was married and had kids. We hung out a bunch of times and then he never called me again. He even told me he loved me. What a scum bag.

realfauxhousewives.com — May 22, 2011 @ 11:24 am

[...] Next Melissa drives her SUV and brags about her plush life that we all wish we had. She blabs out in a stuck up tone: ‘I tend to be very spoiled, so what?’. When these bitches brag they curse their own faux life styles. Real old money doesn’t brag. But these bitches are wanting to rub it in your face every five seconds. That’s why their shit gets foreclosed and bankruptcies exposed. So Melissa doesn’t realize it yet but she just cursed her own shit by bragging like that on TV. She better get ready for the public bankruptcy and foreclosure circus that will be landing on her… [...]

http://blindgossip.com/?p=29372

http://www.lipstickalley.com/f213/melissa-joe-gorga-both-have-herpes-328589/

Melissa feels vindicated after season 4 (video from Celebuzz, November 2012):

http://www.celebuzz.com/video-post/melissa-gorga-reflects-on-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-finale-feud-with-teresa-giudice/

Miza on May 6, 2012 said at LipstickAlley.com:

“The problem is people are talking now. That’s what she kept saying people are telling her that Melissa would leave Joe for a guy with bigger bank. Bravo is probably editing out a lot to save for Season 5.”

JanShe on May 30, 2012 said at AllAboutTRH.com:

“Those photos are going to be coming out soon, you know, the ones of her with her ex, while she was married to Joe Gorga. The photos could be with one of the boys from Bayonne, another ex in Lyndhurst, Tommy, Butch/Bulldog/Brian, Ronald aka Gus, MikeC, Freddy, Vinny, or how about “group sex pics” during spring break, OR how about someone that hasn’t been named yet, haha. There is plenty more that hasn’t been put out there yet. Mel has nothing to worry about right………..LOL.”

What a Joke’ on March 8, 2012 at 2:38 pm said at AllAboutTRH.com:

“You know what’s funny about this whole Melissa bullsh*t, she’s still screwing around with a few of my boys from Bayonne, and Johnny The Greek knows everyone. My wife got me hooked on this HW crap, and now that Johnny and his wife Penny are gonna get on season 5, sh*t’s gonna hit the fan. Johnny knows all the boys: those still hitting it, those that are “away” that hit it, and those she gave it up for special items. Melissa is a ho & Joe is a clown. They’re screwed once Johnny & Penny get on.”

‘The Source’ on April 9, 2012 said at AllAboutTRH:

“Are you f*cking kidding me Melissa? Does this advice [include] meeting your ex at Sushi Lounge 2 years ago? Or your other ex’s in Bayonne or Lyndhurst? Dying for explanation! But we’ll get that when your skank ass is exposed by Penny & Johnny and don’t you worry, we’re all lining up. Tommy, Vinny, Mike C, Freddy C, and that’s just naming a few.”

From celebritynetworth.com:

“Melissa is a sassy Italian who is known for her personality. Back in 2001 she was a tanning consultant for Cindy Delesky, owner of Tropical Tanning in Bayonne, NJ.”

Debbie Gurbisz Calton on December 31, 2009 replied to Melissa’s Facebook post about Teresa throwing out her holiday sprinkle cookies from Corrados:

“You should have went Bayonne style on her a$!!! lol” [Bayonne, New Jersey is connected to Staten Island, New York by a steel arch bridge called the Bayonne bridge].

‘The Source’ on March 12, 2012 at 8:14 pm said at AllAboutTRH.com:

So now I’m feeding bullsh*t stories to Roxy? I’m not a reliable source?

Bring your backstabbing, lying, dancing, coke/Xhead, f*cked all of Bayonne NJ, f*cked your X a year ago at Sushi Lounge, whore self this way you dancing bitch. Why don’t I put on display the private dances you gave outside the club, in people’s cars, or weekend getaways for $$$ and free play. Learn to STFU you dumb bitch because you f*cked with the wrong people this time bitch.

Let’s talk about why you really left Florida and ended up back in NJ living with your “girlfriend”. You dumb bitch talking all this Thank You Jesus smack like people are buying your bullsh*t. Please bitch, the midget knew you worked at Lookers and even used to pick you up from there so stop your lying. Why not talk about how you were dating one of his friends and then you were passed off to him. You’re such a joke.

And now you and the midget got your sisters and others threatening Johnny with prank calls or having us pass off messages to him and Penny? Now that’s a f*cking joke.

You and the midget were lucky the producers told Johnny to play nice at the fashion show because they didn’t want any chaos at Son Cubanos like at the christening otherwise they’d still be picking up the pieces. Don’t play stupid bitch. You know who he is, who his friends are, and it’s a nailbiter for you because you can’t do sh*t about it.

Or should we talk about how you want to play all nice with his niece because she’s in PR and you’re gonna try to scam info out of her. Wake up bitch, Johnny’s friends or family won’t give you sh*t because we/they have loyalty. Something your coat tailing sisters and family know nothing about.

Your sole objective was to bash your own sister in law and midget no-balls went along with it for the money. Oh yea, loyalty.

Why not tell your so-called fake fans the truth about Penny’s Chateau Allure Salon? You don’t know it? Weren’t you a customer there and didn’t you & your bridal party get hair & makeup done there? Or who worked there, where did you go with him & what you did for him for free services? Ah, the good ole days. Lol!!

You were and always will be a joke tag along with no money!!!

http://www.allabouttrh.com/melissa-gorga-talks-allabouttrh

Greek Chick said on November 16, 2012 at AllAboutTRH.com:

“Kim D doesn’t have anything on Melissa. She used Penny to get info but guess what, Penny isn’t giving freebees either. If Miss Kim thinks Penny is going to bring her storyline she’s mistaken. Penny was being interviewed but Kim backdoored her by taking full credit for the drama when, in fact, it’s Penny holding all the dirt on all the ladies, even Kim. If Bravo is smart, they better make sure Kim has a storyline without Penny because Penny is no fool. Penny is the one with all the juice & won’t deliver for free. Why should she? She delivered a finale, Kim took credit & Penny got edited out of her own salon. Penny has mistresses, boyfriends, bootycalls, & more. Kim has nothing without the Greeks… I never said Penny wasn’t on ;) . I said Penny won’t give Kim storylines or bring the drama for free. Penny is no Kim. Kim brings nothing & Bravo will see it.”

John Karagiorgis @JohnnyTheGrk tweeted on November 18, 2012:

Kim is a friend & wish everyone nothing but the best, but nothing in life is ever free. Is it?

Karen Edge Archer ‏tweeted John Karagiorgis on November 16, 2012: “I was reading a blog of new cast members on RHONJ. Total disappointment that u and Penny aren’t them. Both of u should b!!” John Karagiorgis replied:

Some things better unsaid. There’s more 2 it! Like I said before: Believe nothing of what you hear & half of what you see!

John Karagiorgis ‏ @JohnnyTheGrk tweeted on May 6, 2012 and May 7, 2012:

Newsflash @joegorga , @kimdposche is a friend & @teresa_giudice is a class act so when @melissagorga extra activities are exposed, GoodLuck!

@amnicoli @ray_nicoli @melissagorga @joegorga When @PDKHAIR is ready & given the green light, she’ll release the Beast.

ReadMyRealMind ‏ @ReadMyRealMind tweeted on May 7, 2012:

Someday @Teresa_Giudice will finally get pissed off & @melissagorga & Joey will regret trashing T every chance they got. #skeletons #karma

AuntJ ‏ @favAuntJulie tweeted on May 7, 2012:

@ReadMyRealMind @Teresa_Giudice @melissagorga OR Penny will be on S5 & spill OR Penny’s Bravo contract will expire and she will spill! lol

Crystal ‏ @CrystalGPink tweeted on May 6, 2012:

@JohnnyTheGrk @joegorga @kimdposche @teresa_giudice @melissagorga tell us the details Johnny :) . Get Tommy the Greek to do an interview. :)

John Karagiorgis ‏ @JohnnyTheGrk tweeted on May 6, 2012:

@CrystalGPink @joegorga @kimdposche @teresa_giudice @melissagorga Tommy’s my boy and so are others she don’t want coming out.

John Karagiorgis @JohnnyTheGrk ‏tweeted on October 18, 2012:

“I didn’t spill anything but a few beans that were already out there. @PDKhair has the ‘Untold Story’. Trust me.”

Penny Drossos ‏tweeted on September 19, 2012:

51 cards n 51 witness’s …

John Karagiorgis ‏tweeted on September 19, 2012:

Do you really want to get ugly @melissagorga @joegorga ? @PDKhair is holding cards & there’s 51 more cards in deck! Wanna play?

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  1. December 5, 2012 at 8:30 PM | #1

    change to:
    “Kim promised Bravo she would deliver the good on Melisa Gorga what is happening is Kim is attending events and/or hosting events..Nov 30 NJ Fund, Dec 1 PFS, Dec 4 fashion thing??, Dec 5 filming at Posche Store, this Thursday lunch and this Saturdays “Girls Night Out”…”

    • December 5, 2012 at 8:36 PM | #2

      Just changed it Chris. Great work!

      • Anonymous
        December 9, 2012 at 8:40 AM | #3

        Chris is a very well respected writer,she writes or gives her opinion many sites ,Look her up ,like Fame she’s very credible !!

        • Anonymous
          December 9, 2012 at 8:44 AM | #4

          And by the way ,Thanks!!<3<3<3

          • Anonymous
            December 9, 2012 at 9:17 AM | #5

            oops forgot on^^?!?

      • December 10, 2012 at 1:09 PM | #6

        ms fame have you noticed when bravo or RT n others have used a topic about tre giudice when you open it its about mel or carowine n not tre? is that the only way to get their names out,is they know we want to hear about teresa?

    • December 6, 2012 at 12:17 AM | #7

      I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, Andy Cohen has a hard on for Teresa pure and simple. It’s not Bravo but the poison that Andy is telling Bravo in order to get what he wants. He could have a good show and such but he won’t because he and Bravo are in conflict. They think they are getting good drama and such but they don’t realize that Andy is doing everything possible to get Teresa to leave and destroyed. He doesn’t care about her making money for Bravo (even though Bravo wants the money, he doesn’t tell bravo that), he wants her gone and he is doing every dirty way he can to see it done. It all comes from two possibly three things. One, Teresa shoved Andy like a rag doll and he can’t live that down. Two Joe keeps saying gay slurs and Andy hates it, and I believe he thinks that Teresa may agree with Joe in some of that. And three since they are old fashion (remember the comments about Jewish people more than once) I bet Teresa and Joe and who knows Teresa’s family is highly racists and intolerant. I’ve known people in that area and they push that FBI think like crazy (Full Blooded Italian).

      I like Teresa and I want Melissa to go down but I think sometimes Teresa is her own worse enemy and it’s because she isn’t to intellectual. She’s smart and can pick up on things but she’s not able to get her thoughts across without her cussing or saying what she really wants to say and that is why she seems so stymied sometimes. She really needs to understand that she gives her enemies ammo with her old fashion stick.

      Also, It’s weird that Bravo would have separate contract with Caroline over the others. Because she isn’t bringing in the money like Teresa, she isn’t on major shows like CA (celebrity apprentice) like Teresa or have a bunch of books and and such and don’t have fans all over the place and willing to wait in a line around the corner to sign books. I think they have a separate contract or modified one with Teresa more so than Caroline. Hell they can almost get the rest of the husbands to be filmed but for some reason Albert is given a major pass and all I hear from Carol is he’s working hard at the brownstone. THAT is something that should be looked at and discussed, what has Caroline done or know that gives her a little power to be allowed to do this.

      Also it must be the best kept secret, but I would think that knowledge of a contract for the Manzo’s son and this restaurant would be out by now. I think they are trying to shop it out to Bravo but bravo hasn’t bit yet.

      • CleverID
        December 6, 2012 at 1:03 AM | #8

        If this is truly the direction that Andy wants to take the show, I’m out. Bravo can hail him as some sort of golden child but Andy you are in the business to entertain not wage personal vendettas. I turned off Bethenny her last season and it seems a lot of viewers did the same because of her attitude. She is one of Andys pets and just proves that he lets personal agendas and favorites interfere with his business decisions. She should have been done after BEA s1.
        As for Caroline and her boys, I will absolutely not watch her with her inane advice and generalities or her idiot, boring offspring. Their family owns a banquet hall, go work there if you want into the food industry.
        Oh and anyone with a brain should know not to trust Kim D!

    • Honnie Badger
      December 6, 2012 at 9:35 AM | #9

      Sorry, but Chris, who are you and exactly how are you involved in all this? Why should I trust that all this is the truth?

      I am a very skeptical individual, and I tend to believe reports only from credible sources. Since you are putting yourself out there with this, I think it is only fair that you prove your credibility. Thank you.

      • Kate
        December 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM | #10

        Most people who read this blog and/or follow Chris Stark on twitter know she is reliable because she’s broken plenty of juicy stories in the past that have been proven true and picked up by big name celebrity news blogs. What are you looking for, formal training or something? Because credibility doesn’t come from having a journalism degree, or a job with a major news network, or anything that can be proven with a single piece of paper. Credibility comes from a track record, and Chris definitely has one. If you want to know all about it, you can go do the research yourself. If you don’t want to put in that work, then you don’t have to believe the story. Usually if a reader is skeptical, it’s on them to do the leg work to find out about the blogger/journalist/whatever that they are questioning, as the source has no obligation (legal or otherwise) to “prove” that you should believe them.

        No offense meant, but I think you’ll find that if you go around posting requests like this for bloggers/journalists/writers to prove to you that they are credible, you won’t get many answers– “Google my name,” maybe, if you’re lucky. If they responded to every little request like that then they would never be able to finish a story for you to doubt in the first place.

        • Honnie Badger
          December 6, 2012 at 11:07 AM | #11

          Thanks, Kate. But I’d like to hear directly from Ms. Stark. My answer to credibility can only be supplied by her. You are wrong. If someone who is blatantly putting herself out there cannot take the time to reply how she knows all this because otherwise she “would never be able to finish a story for you to doubt” then that increases my doubt. If you’re legit, you answer.

          Anyone can post anything on twitter.

          Anyway, it’s really cute that you tried to reply.

          • December 6, 2012 at 4:57 PM | #12

            Honestly, a proven track record is the best indication of credibility. Nobody in their right mind would offer up their sources.

          • December 6, 2012 at 4:59 PM | #13

            Also, if you are questioning Chris Stark you are basically questioning Fame. If she’s confident enough to put it out there, that alone says a lot to me.

            • donewithbravo
              December 6, 2012 at 7:04 PM | #14

              Personally, it’s very difficult to read through CS’ info, when it’s barely in English. You definitely need a proofreader. Interesting info though. I wouldn’t doubt any of it. Andy and Bravo are scum.

          • Joanna
            December 6, 2012 at 7:31 PM | #15

            @honnie banger
            It’s good to doubt and question, no matter who you are a fan of or what side your on, if your gut says something isn’t right you should be able to ask the question. :)

            • Joanna
              December 6, 2012 at 7:32 PM | #16

              OMG ***Badger !!!! I wouldnt want to imply the other! sorry!

              • embee
                December 6, 2012 at 9:56 PM | #17

                LOL!

            • Jeannie5233
              December 6, 2012 at 9:11 PM | #18

              Joanna – I completely agree with you – whether it is this instance or any other, a person should be allowed to question and follow their own instincts.

              Case in point – Anderson Cooper, graduate from Yale; respected journalist with ABC News, CNN, writter and winner of numerous Emmys for his reporting as well as the prestigious Peabody Award. Do I question him and his motives with regards to RHONJ – you’re damn straight I do!

              The fact is most of us are here because we are intelligent, we DO question and don’t blindly accept the swill being shoved down our throats by Bravo or anyone else for that matter. We have all been on very different journeys bringing us here to FW. We all take in any and all information we have been able to gather not only from here but other sources; decipher it in our own very personal way; come to our own conclusions; and are able to do so without criticism. Nothing more – nothing less as it should be.

              • Honnie Badger
                December 7, 2012 at 8:38 AM | #19

                Really, all I am trying to point out (I’ll try my best to be clear because I know I’m often pedantic! :) ) I respect, admire and read this blog, Stoopid Housewives, FauxRealtityEntertainment and AllaboutTRH. All have shown me a high level of professionalism, all give clear credit to sources as much as possible, they “show their work.” They hide nothing.

                I see Ms. Stark popping in a lot as a poster, delivering some rather juicy tidbits. But she never has, to me, identified how she knows what she knows, so I must question it.

                Listen, I (and any of you) can easily post rumors, etc., consistently and all over the place. And some people will definitely begin to believe it.

                The point is, if Ms. Stark is indeed an insider, I feel she should identify her status to readers. I am positive I’m not the only one who is wondering, questioning and skeptical to a large degree.

                Thanks for wading through this post; I hope I make some sense! Y’all enjoy your Friday!

                • December 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM | #20

                  Honnie Badger, I see where you are coming from. I too, question most of what I see/hear/read and not just limited to gossip and blogs. I mean in general. Jeannie5233 proved that point exactly with the Anderson Cooper example.
                  Let me make it clear that I am in no way intending any disrespect to Chris Stark or to Fame. Clearly, I love this blog and enjoy being here. I have found some very interesting and thought provoking information provided by Chris Stark, much of which has proven to be true. She did, however, seem to just pop up one day with TONS of info and none of us knew where she came from. IS she an insider? DOES she know these people personally? If so, is there a personal motivation for revealing this information? Or is she a regular viewer like we are who is just fed up with Bravo’s dirty deeds in which case, how is she getting this information? These are just questions I ask myself in order to wade through the mountain of information we see each day and decide for myself what I think is legit or not before I believe it.
                  I don’t care if someone has a college degree or not. I don’t have a piece of paper quantifying my intelligence and I’m sure you all realize I’m not an idiot. I just have a natural tendency to question what I am being shown and to make my own decisions by gathering as much information as I can.
                  However, I do understand the slippery slope position of having information from a source who asks not to be named. Many bloggers are put in this position and it can’t be easy to decide whether to release the info and have your credibility called into question or to withhold it and have the info go to waste. I do see both sides of it.

                  • Honnie Badger
                    December 7, 2012 at 2:31 PM | #21

                    HLC, I agree. Degrees don’t matter and it isn’t about that. Very simple, to me, is how does she know all this? What’s her position? That’s it. She is obviously unafraid to use her name or photo, so protecting that is irrelevant.

                    • ChemGeek
                      December 8, 2012 at 9:31 PM | #22

                      Hi Honnie Badger, I can’t answer your question but in following Ms. Stark on Twitter, I did discover she has been having health concerns so that’s why she likely hasn’t popped back to answer you and has been MIA. Sounds like she is dealing with pain related to a crash as well as cancer meds and has been too drugged up to research. Her status indicates that she is coming around. Hopefully you will receive questions to your answer. Have a good one!

                      I am wishing Ms. Stark nothing but health…and all of this info is interesting!

                      Alright, back to reading…

                    • December 9, 2012 at 9:09 AM | #23

                      ChemGeek, thanks for that update. Wishing Chris Stark perfect health, happiness and love <3

          • Monique
            December 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM | #24

            How about you make it easy for yourself and just follow Chris Stark on Twitter.

            • Honnie Badger
              December 7, 2012 at 6:30 PM | #25

              Twitter? Really? How will that demonstrate how she’s involved? I have read her Tweets (sometimes with total difficulty, due to horrible English) and I don’t know who the F she is to know all this. So — your comment — what’s your point?

              • December 8, 2012 at 4:48 PM | #26

                To contrast: John Karageorgis also uses his own name and picture and drops LOTS of useful and interesting information about the RHONJ group. However, he also has a direct connection to the women which has been explained more than once. I’m not saying I believe 100% of what he says. Anyone can be a liar. But we do know that he and his wife personally know some of the cast and have for the better part of a decade.
                And again, I’m not saying that I don’t believe Chris Stark’s info. A lot of it DOES prove to be true in the end. I’m just curious where it comes from, what the connection is, etc… And providing the Johnny the Greek reference for contrast.

              • MomaJackie
                December 9, 2012 at 12:23 AM | #27

                If I am not mistaken, Chris Stark did uncover Melissa’s bench warrant. Clearly most of these families, as well as Andy have crossed and made angry quite a few people. Perhaps they are contacting Chris Stark, as well as Fame and other bloggers?? Teresa and Joe decided to pay their bills, so in the end, the people they owed money to will be made whole. To me $55 million dollars had to hit some people pretty hard. Just saying. Another thought, I remember years ago having the boss from hell. I know if I could have contacted a blogger, without revealing who I was, I would have done it and exposed that rat. Maybe someone in the Bravo camp has a heart and a head.

                I went to Jac’s twitter today, she tweeted a few days ago, “Nicholas is now calling his brother by his name! #progress (I now keep playing him the “I Love You” Barney song.1day I know he will say it!)”

                • Jeannie5233
                  December 9, 2012 at 8:24 AM | #28

                  If you read Chris Stark’s Twitter time line you will find out she is a former blogger for the CBS show Big Brother and blogged about Casey Anthony and her case as well. From what she has tweeted in the past, she is an accomplished woman and a proud mother. She is very good at investigating and alot of her information has either been proven or come to fruition. From what I can discern, she works closely with bloggers and definitely has “inside sources”. She is gravely ill – suffering breast and uterine cancer as well and recently had a motorcycle accident suffering some significant injuries which she is recovering from. I believe she does all this as a distraction from her very real battle.

                  In my opinion, she is a “proven” source but that does not mean one should still not use their own head and heart to take in information and make their own decision on any and all information that may come their way. I was raised not to believe everything I hear or read and to question no matter what the source may be – and to use my own judgement, which I believe is pretty sound.

                  I also believe that one should not be close-minded and to be open to really listen to other opinions or judgements as you never know what you will learn – opinions and judgements can always change – I don’t believe in the saying “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.” – no one is ever too old. I think that most of the commenters here feel the same way.

                  • December 9, 2012 at 9:12 AM | #29

                    Jeannie, thank you. That helps a lot. And as I said upthread, I wish Chris nothing but health, happiness and love.

                  • elemcee
                    December 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM | #30

                    Chris Stark also appears to be the kind of person who does not explain herself. Take it or leave it. We shall see if she is correct, I fear she is.

                    I hope she feels better soon, and I hope she has the best doctors who are taking the best care of her.

              • Monique
                December 10, 2012 at 3:32 PM | #31

                My point to my comment answering your rude comment on you insinuating that Chris Stark doesn’t have “a high level of professionalism”. Who the “F” are YOU to even be so judgemental on how someone gets their sources? Chris must have some sort of professionalism if Fame is using her tweets apart of her blog. So– YOUR comment– what’s YOUR point? Other than being a bitch, hope you had a great weekend. ;)

    • December 6, 2012 at 4:06 PM | #32

      I CANNOT STAND MEL,BUT HOW IS IT CHEATING WHEN THEY SAY THEY HAVE AN OPEN MARRIAGE,DOESNT THAT MEAN YOU SLEEP WITH ALL,BOTH OF THEM??????????

  2. December 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM | #33

    Oh Jeez. Don’t fall for it Teresa or you’re on your own!!! Last two season should have shown you to trust no one!!!!!

    • Jeannie5233
      December 5, 2012 at 10:36 PM | #34

      I really hope you are right Sackem! I really am afraid for Teresa now – I fear that this is true as it is very plausible. If Teresa hasn’t learned her lesson by now she never will! I hope she realizes what is going on – hopefully she reads this blog or someone – please someone! Tweet this woman! Warn this woman! Make her see what is going on! or shakes her and talks some sense into her to be aware of ALL that is going on around her before it is too late!

      Also, maybe if enough people get wind of this and make enough noise and shows Bravo we won’t tolerate a freakin’ nother season of Teresa bashing, they will back off and change how they edit what they have filmed. I cannot fathom that Bravo actually believes this is what the viewers want – AGAIN!!

      • DD
        December 6, 2012 at 6:10 AM | #35

        Oh no not again. I just can’t watch someone being sabotaged like that another season.. I really couldn’t wait for each episode to air weekly. I just kept waiting thinking surely this week Tre will get her day, or Tre will finally let these woman have a dose of their own medicine. However when it didn’t happen week after week I started to get disappointed and anxious that when she did it was going to be of epic proportion and that she may not come out of it a favorable light. But when the reunion aired I just sat in disbelief. How can people hate another human being so much. Yes Tre said a few things that she should not have but who would’t after what she went through.
        If Bravo has chosen this road again it’s like telling me I have to watch a remake of a program where all of the bad guys win. We all know most remakes don’t make for good watching and not many people admire a plot where evil takes over the earth. So I know I won’t be watching.

      • December 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM | #36

        They never listen to the fans, they rig the pools against Teresa, Andy freaking hates Teresa. He has been so cruel to her by seeing that Melissa is protected from exposure by Danielle, and bringing her on the show to hurt Teresa. You know that is why he did it. He is a truly evil person. If he is going to set up Teresa as the villian again and give everybody else the good edit, I will not watch. Not gonna happen.

      • AnnieC
        December 6, 2012 at 5:24 PM | #37

        Amen Jeannie – If Teresa can’t see the writing on the wall – or figure it out by now – I guess her goose is cooked. I’m with you about annoying Bravo (Mr. Cohen) but I have a feeling he doesn’t care – and if people continue to watch and if Cohen continues to ask ‘which team are you on’ there’s no hope – just our ability to turn the channel.

    • elemcee
      December 6, 2012 at 12:19 PM | #38

      I have been afraid of this from the get go. I will never believe Bravo. Last season we kept hearing rumors that Teresa would be vindicated. Did not happen. I am out. I will check in here, if you lovely friends could keep us posted. If it seems like things are going to be good for Teresa, I might watch again. But, I just cannot waste anymore of my life watching Jacqueline, Caroline, Kathy, and Melissa. It just is not worth it.

    • MomaJackie
      December 6, 2012 at 7:21 PM | #39

      Alex McCord at RumorFix shed some light on how Bravo operates. Yes, they may sit down with the wives and go over how the story will run in general. But, I don’t think everyone is in the same room, at the same time or on the same page. Remember, Teresa and Joe’s vow renewal was filmed during Season 4, but not one inch of footage was aired. Hours and hours of positive footage not aired.

      I believe Teresa was lead to believe that making up with her brother and sister-in-law was her main objective and I believe the other ladies were told their mission was to take down Teresa. Alex McCord explained this tactic.

      Remember, before Season 3, Caroline and Jacqueline were my favorite housewives and I am certain they were the favorites of many of you also. Andy, thinking he is so clever, able to walk on water, perform miracles and the rest of us are stupid. He believed, we, the fans, would side with Caroline, Jacqueline and the others. I truly believe this, why would Caroline’s book be coming out in March and what took so long for the canoli kits to come out. Everyone knows you market something while it’s “hot”. Ms. Andy and the rest believed we would side with Caroline, Kathy and the others and they would be these “hot” marketing tools. Yes, all of us would be pre-ordering her book, as well as buying Kathy’s canoli kits for Christmas. It all backfired.

      Will they try to take Teresa down again? Yes! Because Andy is so jealous of Teresa, as are all of the others, IMO Kim D included. The fact that Teresa has loyal fans and she is making money just eats them up.

      • Jeannie5233
        December 6, 2012 at 9:15 PM | #40

        Teresa better wake up and smell the coffee while it is still hot (i.e. before they start editing!) or she is going to lose alot of those loyal fans.

        • etta
          December 9, 2012 at 1:27 AM | #41

          Here is the thing.Last season we spent weeks waiting to see the truth,reading between the lines,looking for Teresa to make that big fall from grace.Never happened because she had done nothing wrong.Do you really think moving into season 5 that Teresa`s fans are not all ready all over this?Anyone with an ounce of sense will look for the set up. and as a Teresa fan I know who they are gunning for.This should be interesting to watch because I really do believe it is not Teresa`s grave being dug.Heads up Andy!

          • elemcee
            December 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM | #42

            I desperately hope you are Etta. I do not want to have to stop watching, but I soooooooo will.

    • Monique
      December 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM | #43

      I completely agree. Sometimes I feel so sorry for her because she thinks everyone is her friend. Last season proves that you can not even trust your own blood. The cast of RHONJ is pretty much based on out doing one another. Teresa genuinely was just trying to give herself a name without stepping on people’s toes. She didn’t just rely on the show to make money she went out of her element and made 2 best selling books, made her own shampoo hair line and, making her own alcohol beverages. She’s going above and beyond and they see that and it kills them that they haven’t came up with the same idea as well.

      Her so called family and friends saw her success and became very envious and they are now trying to tear open her image and ruin her reputation completely. Teresa comes off a little dingy at times (which I find cute). I have my dingy moments as well but, with what happened last season in the very last episode should be a wake up call to Teresa that she can not trust anyone. When these ladies get a little exposure on camera then all they care about is making a name for themselves, they don’t care about no one but themselves.

      There is no loyalty in this show whatsoever. The only loyalty Teresa will ever get is from her REAL family (mother, father, husband, children and, her husband’s family) and, fans. I find it so f*cked up that her own brother is all about ruining his sister’s life and allowing his wife who in all honesty doesn’t give a damn about him and he’s stupid enough to allow her to treat him that way. She’s just using Joe as her ladder for success but, to be honest the dude is like as short as a Hobbit so he’s more of a stepping stool than a ladder. HAHAHA!

      I don’t think I can watch another season if it’s all about trying to ruin someone’s life when the previous season was mainly based to ruin the same person they are trying to discredit again in season 5. Melissa needs to be exposed and if Johnny the Greek and, his wife Penny don’t do what they need to do by calling out that trash, then I’m done.This isn’t (excuse my French) a tit measuring contest by seeing who is going to get paid more to expose a bitch that isn’t worth a dime.

      Just expose this rat already because she is slowly manipulating the viewers and Bravo production that she is a saint! Get all your evidence and just link it all out already. Trust me, if the tabloids find their evidence reliable and accurate they will pay you for more information. I’m just over their warnings to Melissa on Twitter. Just do it ALREADY! I’m getting so impatient because this skank is getting away with murder and their allowing her to do so.

      • December 10, 2012 at 9:04 AM | #44

        ITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Dubbalicious
    December 5, 2012 at 8:57 PM | #45

    Is it so wrong that I haven’t read the story yet, and I’m salivating?!! Lol.
    I’ll be back. Lol. :)

    • ChemGeek
      December 8, 2012 at 9:34 PM | #46

      I check these sites daily and I always drool over the juicy tidbits. I love the comments. They are golden!

  4. MomaJackie
    December 5, 2012 at 9:05 PM | #47

    Teresa watch your back. I never really trusted Kim D.

    If this is really how Season 5 goes down we need to boycott the advertisers, as well as Bravo. Is Andy that stoopid? (I know it is “stupid”, but when in Andy is in the sentence I prefer to spell it “stoopid”.)

    I tried to watch the other housewives series, but I could not relate to any of the women. I once watched NY faithfully, got less interested when Bethany left, and basically stopped watching this past season. Until Melissa and Kathy joined, I could relate to all the NJ women. Three good friends, an older sister and that woman in the neighborhood that you can love some days and dislike the next. One can relate to having a good friend write a cookbook and having a sexy single mother next door, that you have to keep your eye on. But who can relate to a 30+ sister-in-law, with three children, who wants to be a rock star and hates her husband’s family? Kathy is just not interesting. Who really wants to see someone knocked down and a family torn apart? Actually two real families were torn apart and this will continue?

    Shame on you Andy.

  5. Stay
    December 5, 2012 at 9:07 PM | #48

    WOW, you guys do great work!!!

  6. xxciaobelloxx
    December 5, 2012 at 9:39 PM | #49

    omg i feel so bad for her..why cant she ever catch a break…if this is true, the minute something happens to where she gets a bad edit. we must stop watching this show..seriously its ridiculous …it makes sense because of caroline coming out saying she and teresa will be civil to each other..making caroline look like a saint because she is trying to move forward..meanwhile they are going to make teresa look a person who doesnt get over it

  7. December 5, 2012 at 9:49 PM | #50

    Have we got an on air date yet?

    • December 7, 2012 at 10:37 AM | #51

      All previous seasons have begun airing in May of their respective years except S4 which premiered this past April. So figure somewhere in that area :-)

  8. Jeannie5233
    December 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM | #52

    This answers the question why Caroline and Jacs are still talking to Kim D., even after her role in the Posche 2011 debacle. We all thought it odd that they gave Kim a pass while crucifying Teresa.

    Also, the show that is referred to that Caroline has sold to Bravo is probably the one rumored about the boys new restaurant in Hoboken, which probably won’t open now until sometime in 2013 because of Sandy. Didn’t we all think it weird that Caroline had gotten an apartment in Hoboken? She probably is there to help the boys out – again. (I can hear the helicopter blades!) Does this woman let her children do anything on their own? Does she have to have her hands in everything they touch? She has probably financially fronted this new venture for her sons just as she has for Cafface.

    Speaking of Cafface – how long has this store been open and the website shows as “”Cafface Beauty Bar Coming” and still has not been developed. Wouldn’t it be business wise to get the website up and running to promote and sell the store’s and inventory instead of tweeting the deals of the day on her personal Twitter account?

    • AnnieC
      December 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM | #53

      My take is that Caroline has a passive agressive personality – her way or the highway! She cannot let her children grow or fail and her third person references also denotes this type of personality.

  9. Confused RHNJ viewer
    December 5, 2012 at 10:24 PM | #54

    Since the end of the season I have boycotted Bravo, even Top Chef. I read these blogs to help get through my withdrawals. If this is true, Bravo has reached an all time low. Sickening! I have no words. I’ll admit I wanted Melissa and Joe to be knocked down a few notches, but this is ridiculous. There are children involved here. I certainly hope this doesn’t happen.

  10. HWAddict
    December 5, 2012 at 10:46 PM | #55

    Don’t forget Kim D and Jacqueline talk on the phone every morning for a hour or more. They are probably plotting on how to destroy Teresa. I really don’t think I will be watching season 5 and I believe BRAVO overplayed this trash Teresa storyline.

  11. December 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM | #56

    Alright. After reading this whole article, I am not going to watch the new season for the same plot line for the past two seasons of Teresa and previous two seasons of Danielle. This ganging up mentality is just childish but what do you expect from an fucking man who hates certain wives and wishes to sleep with their husbands. I have no problems with gay men or lesbians even some of my good friends are gay! But Andy really pisses me off! All these housewives franchises will meet there end and within ten years, people would not remember half of the cast of the show. It was the same with The Hills and Laguna Beach. I remember when I was in high school watching it and now you hear nothing except for the main star of the shows while the rest are no longer in the public eye.
    So while damaging family’s relationship with each other for sake of money is a disgusting motive. By the time, all their children reach in twenties and thirties, they would look on their parents as if what the fuck were they thinking?

    Money is the root of evil. Money does not buy you happiness, it would buy you what you need and what you desire. You cannot take all those materialistic things with you to grave unless you bury them with you in a large coffin. Materialistic things are not going to be your legacy it is your children and what they have learnt from you is your legacy! MELISSA GORGA!!!!

    • Monique
      December 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM | #57

      Well said. :)

  12. Victoria Veney
    December 5, 2012 at 10:52 PM | #58

    I am going to be so PISSED if they do anything to set up Teresa this S5 because this woman has been thru ENOUGH these past 2 seasons!!! I dont care if Bravo exsposes Melissa and Caroline for who they really are and what their really like BUT they better not SET Teresa up to take the fall!! I’m so sick of them always trying to make T look like shit Mel and JoeGo deserve to be put on BLAST but stop trying to make T the fall guy!! And I can belive that Melissa screws everything that has a big bank account and I can belive JoeGo screws everything in a skirt to that not a shock to me because look what they did to JoeGo family and his only sister for FAME!! They are a bunch of losers Mel and Joe and Mel’s sisters are all TRASH and will stop at nothing to get what they want!!!

  13. RTortor
    December 5, 2012 at 11:25 PM | #59

    I think a boycott of the Advertisers is a great way to bring Bravo down. I think Andy’s doing a little swinging on tarzan

    • Monique
      December 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM | #60

      Right on!! Let’s get one prepared.

      • December 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM | #61

        i want to say im in with the boycott but what is all that about not knowing where we get our info,and are we an insider,im just me voicing what i feel in my heart ,do we have to pay to be on a blog?
        is this just for journalists and news people ?n iv stuck my nose where it doesnt belong

  14. Greek Chick
    December 6, 2012 at 12:02 AM | #62

    Fame & to all readers,
    When I told you all this weeks ago you all blew me off. Now what? Kim D isn’t 2-faced, she’s 10-faced. Kim would cross Teresa for the right price. The only real backup Teresa has is Penny because Penny won’t cross her and is the one with all the juice on all these bitches, especially Kim.
    I was at the PFS and Penny kept telling Kim to shut up because Kim kept rambling like a fool as if she knew anything. She don’t know shit! Kim backdoored Penny by promising Bravo that she can bring Penny for free just like I said and now look, the truth came out. Problem is Miss Kim, Penny won’t do shit for free. She gave Bravo a finale S4 & she’s obviously the center of attention for S5.
    So listen up Miss Andy. You want validated storylines, ratings, & a finale? You know what to do. It’s ok Andy, Kim’s been manipulating men for so long that you just couldn’t see it. Now I hope you see it and I hope everyone sees it.

    • iowagirl84
      December 6, 2012 at 12:54 AM | #63

      I never like kim at all, there was something about her that i just could not put my finger on. Greek Chick since you were at the pfs can you tell me if there changed up the order of events. As in at the very end of the epsiode teresa was visting and saying hi to the table, while everyone else was outside yelling and upset. That has been bothering me for some time, it just does not seem right.

      • December 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM | #64

        You can tell it’s out of sequence. Watch the background closely. While everyone was leaving and Teresa was inside, yes but look at the table and plates and napkins. While Teresa was saying hi to everyone, the table was still set for dinner, no one had eaten yet which means Teresa was saying hi to everyone before the show began which is the logical thing. Bravo edited like she was laughing and saying hi after the drama went down.

        Also, before the drama went down look at the table setting. When the bald guy walked up, they had salad on their plate then it went to the runway show where their was desert on their plate and then they were all talking and their was an entree on their plate.

        Pay attention to the background and you will be able to see what was edited out of sequence :)

        • embee
          December 6, 2012 at 10:14 PM | #65

          TCT did an excellent blog on the inconsistencies of the table settings too. The PFS was chopped up and re-sequenced.

          • Jeannie5233
            December 6, 2012 at 10:32 PM | #66

            Now that was a very interesting read!! It was really enlightening! Thanks Styleeyah and embee for reminding me. Everyone should read that blog along with the video to prove how all the meal coursesand table settings were out of order!! If that isn’t enough evidence on how this show is edited, there never will be. After seeing that, one would have to be mentally incapacitated on some level not to finally see how we are being manipulated!!

          • December 6, 2012 at 11:02 PM | #67
          • iowagirl84
            December 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM | #68

            Thank you it was a very interesting read. I was pretty sure my gut was telling me it was wrong. It is just soo sad the crazy editing they did

        • December 8, 2012 at 5:08 PM | #69

          Styleeyah, you are spot on in your description of how Bravo edited the PFS. Sadly, this is something that happens frequently on reality TV – scenes being shown out of order to manipulate viewers into thinking that something went down differently than it actually did. Bravo is not the only network guilty of doing this. The easiest way to spot it is when it a scene takes place in a restaurant. Watch the table – plates disappearing and then reappearing, the amount of food on the plates changing, drinks magically replenishing themselves mid-conversation, napkins moving from one spot to another – and you’ll see how things get edited. But when you realize how easily just one scene can be spliced together it also makes you realize that production literally has to splice the CONVERSATION together as well. So the cast’s words are not even an accurate representation of what really happened. And if you listen closely enough, you can actually hear how choppy it sounds one you’ve realized that the whole scene was edited together out of order. It’s infuriating.

          From RHONJ, good scenes where you can see this happening are: the entire S1 finale (Danielle’s book), the S2 scene where Teresa and Jacqueline meet Kim D for lunch and she invites them to the first PFS, and the S3 episode(s) where Jacqueline, Chris, and Jac’s ex and his wife confront Ashlee. It’s exceptionally bad during the first example (the S1 finale) with the number of times we see Dina sitting in one seat and then in the next shot sitting in another seat without getting up and moving. The sound editing is very poor in that episode so it makes you understand precisely how Bravo manipulated its audience. I’m still curious what REALLY happened at that dinner.

    • December 6, 2012 at 4:30 AM | #70

      I didn’t blow you off, you seriously sounded like an insider and I was curious to know more!!!! You were at the show?????

    • hoolie
      December 6, 2012 at 6:10 AM | #71

      Greek…good to see your posts again and glad to see Chris and Fame are spreading the word. :-)

      • Jeannie5233
        December 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM | #72

        Aw Greek Chick – please don’t feel that way – you add a great deal here! Always good to read your posts!

    • elemcee
      December 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM | #73

      Greek Chick, I took what you said very seriously, because unfortunately, this is what I was afraid was going to happen. Really, if you are involved in the show in any way you must do your best to protect yourself. I respect that Penny wants to expose Melissa, but I do not want to see her hurt in any way either. It is just really not worth it. Being on this show is a curse more than a blessing.

    • December 6, 2012 at 5:40 PM | #74

      Please do not say ALL of us blew you off. I try and read as many comments as I can and I especially like to hear what insiders have to say. I’m not surprised about Kim D. Look at what she did to Danielle… to Teresa at the reunion. The fact that she’s such good friends with Jac bothers me too. The sad thing is, I’m sure Teresa will be desperate to have someone to interact with. She even said during season four that Kim D. was her fan. I’m really disappointed with the way season five is looking. I was soooo happy to hear Jac, Caroline and Kathy were gone and now this. I don’t even like Chris L. anymore and I can’t stomach Caroline’s kids. Greggy (what grown man calls himself Greggy?) makes me gag.

      It was soooo obvious what most viewers thought by looking at the comments on Bravo. Not the comments themselves, but the “like” and “dislike” at the bottom of each comment. Most were pro-Teresa, anti everyone else. That alone proves that the polls are rigged. Andy Cohen is a disgusting little man… just like JoGo.

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:47 PM | #75

      I believed you Greek Chick, even before I asked my source to this article (when he/she originally contacted me a few weeks back) about some comments you made on some other blogs (before you started commenting here)… my source (who isn’t sure who you are) acknowledged that you were/are well informed.

      • diggitydawn
        December 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM | #76

        I believed her, also- from the get-go, when I read her comments on ALLABOUTTRH (I think that’s where I first read them). I hope you will continue to comment, GreekChick, your posts are VERY interesting & I love reading them. : )

    • MomaJackie
      December 6, 2012 at 7:56 PM | #77

      I believed you Greek Chick.

    • Monique
      December 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM | #78

      If you know Penny and her husband please tell them to get their evidence ready. I understand Penny doesn’t want to say much because Kim will probably get all the credit for it but tell her to get a PR sign a contract with Bravo whereas Kim does not get credit on Melissa’s past and just expose this bitch already. I know it’s just the calm before the storm but, the more they wait, the more Melissa is going to win over the viewers and Bravo production. She’s not going to win over me but, there are many people that don’t know about this site and some that think this site is all lies. If Penny allows S5 to be all about making Teresa the bad guy w/o stepping up with facts with proof then many people are going to side with those 4 devilish Gremlins.

    • December 8, 2012 at 5:29 PM | #79

      Greek Chick, I don’t remember the specific comment you are talking about but if I saw it I would have believed you. Maybe I just didn’t reply to it and I’m sorry if you felt that you were blown off.
      I’ve never trusted Kim D. She has always seemed like she’s out for her #1 – herself. She always seems to make nice to people’s faces and talk her shit behind their backs which just makes her a back-stabbing shit-talker, IMO. If she really has the set of balls (pardon my crudeness) on her that she claims, she’d say what she really feels about people directly to them. When I encounter people like this in my life – people who talk behind other’s backs – I watch my ass and I tell them NOTHING because if they are doing it to other people then they are doing it to me, too. So I have to wonder what crap she is saying about Teresa or what she is going to do to her. She’s always nice to Teresa’s face, isn’t she? But look at her track record. And this need that she has to be all fake and “hi, sweetie” and “don’t you look gorgeous?” to people and then turn around and bash them says that she has some kind of ulteriour motive. She hides behind her store, using that as the reason why she’s nice to people even if she doesn’t care for them but I don’t buy it. That’s not good PR when you have TV cameras in your face capturing the bad things you are saying.
      And the crap she pulled in the last two episodes this season with pretending she had no idea who Angelo was in the salon and pushing to get info out of him on camera even after Teresa tried to shut it down told me that Teresa should have stopped trusting her right then and there.

  15. anomnomnom
    December 6, 2012 at 12:10 AM | #80

    When in the hell is someone going to tell all? I’m tired of waiting. Does Bravo have so much control they can silence all of New Jersey? Not one person not associated with the show, not being paid or trying to get on the show is saying anything, only teasers. wait for the pictures, what about so and so? Melissa did this Melissa did that Melissa did him Melissa did her. Joe is a thief. I know all about this or that. Just say it already. fuk.

    • December 6, 2012 at 4:32 AM | #81

      Word little bird… I’m with you!

    • embee
      December 6, 2012 at 6:59 AM | #82

      They want a pay day to spill it, perhaps?

    • jeanbean
      December 6, 2012 at 4:22 PM | #83

      I am starting to doubt it to anom. Hasn’t this been going on for a few years already. Seems one Jersey resident would write a tell all or show up on a show to expose the info.

      • December 6, 2012 at 5:42 PM | #84

        Didn’t the above say that it was already mentioned in an article in Star magazine? Isn’t the info we’re getting “someone talking”? If anyone is waiting for Bravo to air anything about it, I wouldn’t hold your breath.

        • December 6, 2012 at 5:51 PM | #85

          I want the Greeks to spill. The Star thing was about Missy’s Lesbian Liaison

    • I live in the neighborhood
      December 6, 2012 at 6:35 PM | #86

      They can’t say anything because it I part of their contact. We just have to wait for Jaq to drunk tweet and we will find out everything.

      • Monique
        December 10, 2012 at 3:41 PM | #87

        But sometimes Jaq’s drunk tweets are lies. LOL.

    • Monique
      December 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM | #88

      THANK YOU!!! I’ve been ranting the same damn thing.

  16. Annie
    December 6, 2012 at 12:16 AM | #89

    Oh boy, sounds like another shitty season.

  17. happylady
    December 6, 2012 at 12:31 AM | #90

    This is totally unrelated, sorry, but I was wondering if anyone watched qvc? I didn’t catch it but was curious how it went. Kathys’ canolli thing is what I’m referring to. Ugh, don’t get me started

    • iowagirl84
      December 6, 2012 at 12:56 AM | #91

      i feel the same way. I just dont understand why anyone would want to buy a kit like that when you can make them yourself or go to a bakery to get one. I think that it would be better for kathy to open her own bakery store.

    • December 6, 2012 at 5:53 AM | #92

      i saw it, she is pushing the goddess brand you get 2 bags of filling and the shells, then you fill them lol not worth the over 40 dollar price tag and guess what she never mentioned teresa lol

      • Jeannie5233
        December 6, 2012 at 8:41 AM | #93

        She was on for all of about 5-7 mins looking uncomfortable and nervous. She was not very articulate either she couldn’t get her words out correctly. “The cream is soo creamy!” Yeah, OK! Also, the kit was on special for $45 with the regular price being $54 for 12 shells and two bags of FROZEN cream – Um, that’s way too expensive! I can get great FRESH cannolis for much less than that and I don’t have to wait to have them delivered.

        Kathy had on a beautiful blue dress – trouble is it was so tight it looked like she could barely breathe. How she could move is beyond me – why do these HWs have to squeeze themselves into dresses that are sizes too small – i.e. Caroline, Jacs, and Kathy at the Reunion – so unattractive. Sausages – all it does is show the “blubber”!

        • happylady
          December 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM | #94

          Thanks guys ! Sounds like I didn’t miss anything, lol

          • December 6, 2012 at 3:28 PM | #95

            The youtube version is over on StoopidHW’s…I actually LMAO in the Wee Hours watching what I could of the bejeweled QVC-Kathy and her “the cream is creamy” performance! One of the commenters was on a comical roll, with my fave being “is that like the fish is fishier”? *SNORT*

            • December 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM | #96

              Thanks for the heads up… well that was good cringe worthy stuff… sorta like selling ice to Eskimos don’t you think?

            • jeanbean
              December 6, 2012 at 4:24 PM | #97

              Someone said a one armed kindergardener could do it. It is pretty funny to watch Kathy in her prom dress wow the Qvc lady with her skills.

              • December 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM | #98

                That was Moi! Do you know how many fresh canolies (sp) I could buy at the bakery for $45.00?
                I could probably make 200 at home for $45.00. What a rip-off. Worst idea EVER. Well, maybe sonja’s toaster oven is a close second.

            • Monique
              December 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM | #99

              http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/12/07/teresa-giudice-kathy-wakile-tree-tweets-kathy-cannolicongrats/

              Did Teresa even get a retweet back from Kathy with a “Thank you.” I highly doubt it.

              • Jeannie5233
                December 7, 2012 at 10:16 PM | #100

                Well I guess Kathy and Teresa are being “civil”to each other because after Teresa gave Kathy a big shoutout and congrats on her QVC appearance and cannoli kit, Kathy DID tweet back:

                Thank you @Teresa_Giudice Your good wishes truly mean so much to me !! Xo

                • Monique
                  December 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM | #101

                  Thanks! I wasn’t sure if Kathy responded back, I didn’t feel like going on Twitter to see. When I saw this on stoopidhousewives I expected for them to at least show if Kathy responded back but, they didn’t so I just thought that Kathy didn’t give her a thank you. I think it’s great that their being civil but Kathy is NOT to be trusted. I understand Teresa is trying to be the bigger person but ALL the sh*t that she did to Teresa while trying to play the victim pissed me off and if that was my cousin. I would never talk to that pop eyed lizard again.

                  • Jeannie5233
                    December 11, 2012 at 7:34 AM | #102

                    ITA!! I think Kathy really had no choice but to respond in order to make herself look good on Twitter what with filming S5 and all! And the fake Xo – blech! I don’t believe she really cares what Teresa thinks – she has pretty much made that clear and one little RT back to Teresa isn’t going to change the pubic’s perception of her or sell more cannoli kits.

                    • Monique
                      December 11, 2012 at 5:43 PM | #103

                      I completely agree. She doesn’t! She’s becoming more loyal to complete strangers than her own blood. Her husband Rich gets under my skin too. He’s mainly in Kathy’s ear plotting something to make Teresa look bad. I seriously believe that he has a thing for Teresa.

                    • Jeannie5233
                      December 11, 2012 at 6:16 PM | #104

                      Oh my! Oh my! Oh my! Just reread my comment – obviously, my key strokes miss sometimes!!! It’s “public” not “pubic” LOL!!!!

                    • Anonymous
                      December 12, 2012 at 1:00 AM | #105

                      I was for someone to catch that lol!!Hopefully there are none of “those in the kit”!!Hehe ;-)

    • DebbieD
      December 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM | #106

      You can see it on Stoopid Housewives.

  18. December 6, 2012 at 1:03 AM | #107

    I look for this site, like others to be updated every few hours. I’m amazed that all of these things are going on. It definitely makes great tv and ratings, but this is their lives we are talking about, not a sitcom or scripted show. After the cameras are gone, they return to the “Real World” with their families. It is no longer entertainment, it’s a train wreck and someone could really get hurt and have their lives destroyed. IMO, they sold their souls for money and fame. Many would do the same, but fame is a dangerous drug. Bravo is a network that is making HW look like fools. Can I ask why there isn’t a show on the Network with rich homosexual men-couples making fools of themselves? Why is it just women? I just hope the RHONJ come to their senses and say enough is enough… Isn’t bankruptcy, jail, fraud, infidelity, enough to say, “I’m done?”. Sad part is, more will come on the show and have their lives exploited too until the public gets tired of all of the negativity.

    • December 6, 2012 at 5:49 PM | #108

      I agree however, you don’t even have to change the channel to see men making fools out of themselves (and there are some gay ones in there to boot). They’re on the same shows along with the wives, aren’t they?

  19. December 6, 2012 at 4:34 AM | #109

    What would be great is a handy list of links to all who would be interested in our opinions: BRAVO exec’s (higher than Andy, of course) advertisers, business interests like Kathy QVC, Xanjax Parent Magazine gig, the FDA for BLK claims, Caroline’s publisher etc. All in like a handy, pinned box. I’ve done a bit as I read a pertinent article here and there, but numbers get noticed, of course. The basic message is don’t you watch this show?

    There’s not much in the article backing up the Albert cheating claim?

    I agree with those that posted that if Teresa can’t figure this game out by now, I don’t have much sympathy for her. She may not be an intellectual, but I think she’s street smart and savvy. I will be firmly off her bandwagon if she goes along with this BS for a paycheck. If for whatever reason she hasn’t figured out BRAVO’s game – or thinks she can outsmart the editing – surely she reads this blog, right?

    • December 6, 2012 at 4:38 AM | #110

      I hope she does…. there was a tweet from her related to this site. I think Momma Jackie did a full list of sponsors, I found the execs but the only address for the is street not web.

    • Jeannie5233
      December 6, 2012 at 8:59 AM | #111

      Hey whaddup – someone on Fame’s blog DID post all the execs at NBC Universal, as well as Bravo, and some other affiliated companies that would be interested in hearing our opinions as well as the advertisers. It was posted in several articles. If I had the time I would try and find it! I just don’t remember who took all that time or which articles. I think the contacts for the execs would be more important at this point before filming stops and the editing begins.

      • twitterfiend
        December 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM | #112

        Hello guys! One thing that I have thought about doing is not only contacting execs and advertisers but also emailing Teresa’s PR people. I for one would like to think that Teresa would not be willing to sacrifice her fan base nor her business opportunities to play the bad guy on a reality show. I also feel that her PR reps would totally be against this since they want her to been seen in a more positive light. IDK, I just hope that the seasons isn’t edited to be they way many people are saying it is.

        • Joanna
          December 6, 2012 at 2:21 PM | #113

          I have come to believe that Teresa is going along with this, willingly.
          After the reunion she tweeted that it’s just a show. She seemed over it.
          I think there is a formula in place:

          Cast attacks Teresa (4 against 1).
          Fans see her as getting ganged up on.
          Fans of the show start supporting Teresa (after all, she’s all alone right?).
          Every time someone attacks her, her fan base runs to twitter in her defense.
          As soon as her products hit the shelf, we buy in support of her.
          (I myself have spent $39.95 on the cookbooks)

          Bulling Teresa=$$$ For Bravo and Teresa

          I still love Teresa, but she’s not stupid, she’s bringing home the bravo Bacon.

          • December 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM | #114

            what are the saleries for s5?

            • Joanna
              December 6, 2012 at 4:02 PM | #115

              I can’t find a link to current salaries, but based on previous years and casts of the franchise, I would guess at least $500,000 a year, if not more like $750,00 to 1 million for head cast earners like Teresa. That guess is based on the New York cast income from last year.

              http://voices.yahoo.com/does-pay-housewife-11214696.html

              • December 6, 2012 at 4:14 PM | #116

                THEIR SALERIES WERE 355,000 TRES,LAST YR CAROS WAS 265,000 BUT JUST THINK TREE NEEDS 2000000000 FOR THIS YR,(DONT EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH THIS IS BUT IT AINT ENOUGH) THE SALERIES ARE TO THE RIGHT OF THIS SCREEN B4 YOU GET TO THE ARCHIVES FOR LAST YR ,EVEN DOWN TO EACH KID

                • Joanna
                  December 6, 2012 at 4:26 PM | #117

                  I see someone posted those salaries on FH but was there a link attached? I think the salary for the Jersey cast would have to be much more than that.

                  • December 6, 2012 at 5:54 PM | #118

                    Hopefully they went up this year. Last year was the first year that both Ramona and LuAnn made $500,000 each and I heard NeNe is making a million a year. Teresa deserves to be up there with the other high earners. But if Andy hates her…

          • Cee_See
            December 6, 2012 at 4:23 PM | #119

            I agree with you! Teresa must believe in, ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it!’. The first 2 season’s she showed her anger (flipping a table), and we saw her bully the RHONJ outcast, Danielle. People bought her products she was asked to be on Celebrity Apprentice. After season’s 3 & 4 she was the outcast, and her products sold even more. Her fame increased, too. It even seems like Caroline see’s this and is willing to be the ‘new’ outcast, hence her ‘Teresa and I are civil’ interviews. Caroline described herself as season 4′s ‘Danielle’, she wasn’t the outcast! She was doing what she always does which is starting trouble and participating in the bullying of the real outcast. She even allowed her kids to be apart of the bullying! She’s sick and disgusting. Her reputation is too far damamged to repair! Blame her offspring for her reputation, too. They showed what disrespectful, low life brats they really are. Geez, when I get started on the Manzo’s it’s hard to stop!

            • Joanna
              December 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM | #120

              I am a big Teresa fan, I have been for a long time. But something struck me as odd this season while watching Teresa get hammered emotionally by these woman. On the little shuttle bus to Dina and Carolines brothers wedding in Chicago, Teresas dameaner was off. She was acting too friendly and up beat towards all the people that she knew hated her. At the time I assumed she was just letting it all fall off her shoulders but to see her at the reunion really standing her ground I wondered if she might have been just pushing their buttons on that bus.(which I wouldn’t blame her for). I just am not feeling that sorry for her anymore this season coming up.

              • December 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM | #121

                Teresa really didn’t know the level of hate at that point. She had apologized about the book to Caroline and if you remember, in the beginning, Caroline was being a bit cold, but not hateful. Jac and her were okay then. She probably hadn’t yet seen all of what was happening in season three and the Manzo kids making fun of her. I don’t think it was out of character at all.

                • Jeannie5233
                  December 6, 2012 at 9:32 PM | #122

                  I don’t think Teresa is going along with this willingly. I truly believe she is heartbroken over the breakdown of her family and the loss of her relationshio with her brother. I also believe she loves her mother and father and wouldn’t continue on with this crap of seeking revenge on Melissa as that would hurt them. “Joe, Daddy loves you” Teresa’s voice cracking as she is crying on the Reunion – that was no acting – we all know Teresa can’t “act” worth a damn. That scene has stayed with me throughout all this.

                  During the filming of Season 4, Teresa was very unaware of what was going on behind her back until she actually saw it – I also believe one of her first clues as to what was happening to her was the way Reunion Season 3 went down. She pretty much found out about the backstabbing and betrayals when we did – as we watched it unfold every Sunday night right before our horrified eyes. Now if we felt that – can you imagine how she must have felt?!

                  That being said, Teresa – Girl, you had better have learned your lesson. Don’t trust ANYONE but yourself.

                  • December 7, 2012 at 6:40 AM | #123

                    It is also very telling that she avoided everyone in the cast after season three reunion (end of S4taping) Kathy and Melissa both said they reached out to her but she would not have it. TheView episode when T refused to sit with them was priceless! I think she is wise to it all and that is why her friends are being asked to join the show. Caroline and her misfit crew did Ms. Andy’s bidding and it cost them a solid fan base.

                  • Cee_See
                    December 8, 2012 at 3:03 AM | #124

                    I just want to believe Teresa is aware of being set up, again, because I hate seeing her get picked on! These ladies are ruthless, Caroline, Jaq, Melissa and Kathy! Some of the scenes in season 4 were hard to watch, especially the scene in Napa w/Caroline yelling at Teresa. After watching that scene the thing that I noticed about Caroline’s character is she has to have a gang of people by her side when she confronts someone! She can’t do it alone she’s too big of a coward. During that scene her little demon spawn was the only one who took up for her!

                    Anyway, if Teresa is being set up, again, I will probably stop watching RHoNJ. I started watching the show 2 years ago during season 2 and I really didn’t like Teresa. I felt sorry for Danielle and wished they all would leave her alone. I remember my feelings changed during the end of the Season 2 reunion when Teresa hugged Danielle. I thought Teresa was more of a follower then, it seemed like she ended her fued w/Danielle because Jaq did. After season 3 aired and Melissa, the wench, said, ‘We pay our bills!’ I so wanted Teresa to treat her like she did Danielle! But, Teresa has too much class to do that to her family.

                    On the allabouttrh.com Jaq added to Caroline’s ‘I can be civil to Teresa’ interview by saying she can co-exist w/Teresa. So, we can see who is following who. Caroline is still the leader, it would seem. Their up to something! Their trying to manipulate the public’s view of either themselves or Teresa? Both, probably, but more Teresa. It’s sick how they are so ‘crazy jealous’ of Teresa! Usually people who are ‘crazy jealous’ of someone makes the ‘crazy jealous’ person want to destroy them by hurting their families, reputation and their livlihood. They don’t care anything about the kids! Actually, people ‘crazy jealous’ will usually perceive the child as deserving of watching their parent being treated so harshly. I guess it’s the ‘crazy jealous’ person’s way of trying not to feel any guilt at what they want to do/or did to their parent. Their sick, sick, sick!

              • Dubbalicious
                December 6, 2012 at 10:33 PM | #125

                They filmed S3 & 4 back to back. I think filming was in the can by the time Teresa realized the level of their hated towards her. She herself had mentioned that. This poor woman is trying to make amends and they’re ( Jac, Caro, Mel, Kat , Rosie, Lauren, Albie, Chris, Rich, Joey,Al, Chris L and Santos) ripping her to shreds!!

        • December 6, 2012 at 10:08 PM | #126

          Bravo does Teresa’s PR I believe, check her website out… she may have a business manager type person

        • December 6, 2012 at 3:30 PM | #129

          Thanks!!

        • MomaJackie
          December 6, 2012 at 6:31 PM | #130

          Here is the link to the executives. In the left side bar there is a contact link.

          http://www.nbcumv.com/mediavillage/networks/bravo/executives

          I continue to boycott the sponsors products and will not watch any Bravo programs at this time.
          The boycott was easier than I thought, for every product on the list, there is a product just like it, made by a competitor. Some of the new products are cheaper and I prefer them, i.e., Top Care Body Wash is better IMO than Dove and cheaper too.

          • MomaJackie
            December 6, 2012 at 7:50 PM | #131

            Programs I have enjoyed NOT on Bravo:

            Person of Interest
            Mike and Molly
            2 Broke Girls
            Breaking Amish
            Chopped
            Too Cute
            Property Brothers
            Chopped
            Diners, Drive-Inns and Dives
            All LifeTime movies

            • elemcee
              December 6, 2012 at 11:00 PM | #132

              Big Bang Theory!

          • December 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM | #133

            I tried a web address on the NBC website but it bounced back, can you let me know if this one works?????

            • December 7, 2012 at 3:28 AM | #134

              Criminal ID on Discovery!

              • DD
                December 7, 2012 at 4:35 AM | #135

                Long Island Medium, Addicted, and Intervention. All three make me break out the Kleenex.

            • MomaJackie
              December 9, 2012 at 1:00 AM | #136

              I had not tried it until half hour ago, as I was not ready to email just yet. Did you try going into your email and typing in the address? The contact link on their website does not work for me either. I just sent a random “keep up the good work” through my email, which I typed in the address and it did not come back yet (30+ minutes ago).

              The edits will not start until all of the filming is done. Remember Melissa taking the girls to have their nails done?

              I was hoping to organize an email blitz. Getting all of my friends, family and co-workers who watch this program to email the same thing on the same day to the same person(s) at NBC

              Perhaps all of the readers of this blog could join us?

              I will try to find out who would be the most relevant and post the email addresses.

              • elemcee
                December 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM | #137

                I am in Moma! Keep us posted.

  20. Mrs. Noogent
    December 6, 2012 at 5:40 AM | #138

    Fame, Do you remember on season one when Caroline spoke about her good friends that owned the Chateau. This is where Caroline brought the “book” because she wanted her good friends to know about Danielle. This would have been Penny and Johnny correct?

    • embee
      December 6, 2012 at 7:25 AM | #139

      different Chateau in a different town. The Chateau that Caroline brought the book to, was the same location she and Lauren rented for Calf-face.

  21. December 6, 2012 at 5:41 AM | #140

    PS: “Caroline Manzo – the Face of CatFace” in that pic! Was the special that day “Orange Face-White Neck” with a side of fries?

    • MomaJackie
      December 6, 2012 at 7:30 PM | #141

      I thought the same thing. I could do a better job with Caroline’s makeup. Did Lauren graduate/pass makeup school?

      • Jeannie5233
        December 6, 2012 at 9:40 PM | #142

        Oh Caroline is now pushing some anti aging products based on stem cell research called Lifeline Skin Care over Twitter – says she’s only used it for a few days and her skin is starting to feel better. Next thing you know, she’ll be a spokesperson – I’m just gonna wait and see.

        • December 6, 2012 at 10:11 PM | #143

          But wait… isn’t her “radiant” skin from shaving??

          • Anonymous
            December 7, 2012 at 7:00 AM | #144

            She did say she shaved like 10 times in the shower ,that’s how she exfoliates !!

            • Anonymous
              December 7, 2012 at 7:08 AM | #145

              Wow,It’s the BLOODY FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH!!Put that IN a Bottle !!We’ll all be Rich!!No,wait !!You stole my idea!!!DAMN ?!?

        • happylady
          December 7, 2012 at 12:59 AM | #146

          Just like Jaq & her acne miracle products?

        • Confused RHNJ viewer
          December 7, 2012 at 12:06 PM | #147

          Yup, that has been her story line, aging………………both problems with menopause and of course looking like an angry old hag. (BTW, I’m older than Caroline). lol

  22. hoolie
    December 6, 2012 at 6:18 AM | #148

    I completely believe what Chris is putting on blast about T being set up for Season 5.
    What I am having a really hard time with is the extent of hatred MAndy has against T. I’ve always seen that he has a giant hard on for her, but now this is just getting downright psychotic with the extent he is taking it to in T’s story arc. Bad enough when he decided to get his lover A.C, W.W. and Kelly Ripa to spew negativity, but going to this length to destroy T and her family???? WTF??? Seriously- this man is not right in the head with his hatred. And I do think this is another reason he may NOT sign on Penny/Johnny- THEY CAN BRING IT….and then T will NOT be the fall guy(whipping ‘boy). Sadistic Mysogynistic Bastard….

    • Annie
      December 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM | #149

      Andy has the mentality of a 10 year-old girl.

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM | #150

      It’s especially sick since this is post-Russell Armstrong. There is no level of human decency at all in his body.

      • diggitydawn
        December 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM | #151

        See, this is what I’m afraid of, dch60. There’s already been one suicide, does Andy really want another one? I commented about this somewhere else, but I’m gonna say it again…I’m terribly afraid all of us are going to wake up one morning to headlines that say there’s been another suicide, a murder-suicide or a murder like the situation with the Jenny Jones show years ago. People can be pushed only so far & then they snap. More blood on Andy Cohen’s hands – & for what? A little more money in his pocket? I pray it doesn’t ever happen but I’m afraid it might.

  23. December 6, 2012 at 6:49 AM | #152

    sad, simply sad. I’ll be watching old fashioned tv. downton abbey here I come….

    • Anonymous
      December 7, 2012 at 7:24 AM | #153

      I just turn on the radio !! Listen to some old motown ,patsy cline,janis or Led Zepplin!!;-)

  24. No love lost
    December 6, 2012 at 7:06 AM | #154

    I don’t want the Gorga’s “exposed” for their nasty behavior. I just want the HW franchise to end and everybody fade into oblivion. I use to like the drama but it is sickening what people will do to others for money. What abuse some will take for money. I kinda believe alot of this is fake and we are being duped to accept it as real. The housewives and producers have meetings about the story lines. So the HW should be aware what’s coming. To make money you accept whatever Bravo does to you. Teresa is not smart but she has to be aware what the hell is going on around her. She said she was a good Bravo employee. To me that means she takes the abuse for the money. Money is the bottom line for Bravo. Like every business..it is all about money. The ratings for season 4 were very very good and brought alot of advertising money to Bravo. The only way to keep Teresa from getting bashed again is to not watch season 5 but I bet that it will be another winner for Bravo. And the monster that is Bravo will keep being fed.

    • December 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM | #155

      I think you are right. They’re all in it for the money… it could be that Joe Gorga is the only one who hasn’t figured out that he is being played.

      • no love lost
        December 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM | #156

        Yeah he really is green to the reality game. But I am sure he will be “waking up” soon. And still act like a buffoon for the almighty dollar.

        • December 6, 2012 at 6:11 PM | #157

          Joe Gorga is being played by his own wife.

      • TiaGiaStory
        December 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM | #158

        Fame & All Others Interested,
        I think that there wasn’t enough of a boycott of BRAVO or any of it’s advertisers to get the point across. Fame, you and several others that eloquence of writing should send The Trumps a letter asking them to send Teresa an incredible PR team. In my most humble opinion, I think the Donald would make short work of Ms. Andy, his obvious biased producers, and all of their blatant deceit in doctoring the timeliness. The Trumps understand loyalty and could offer Teresa some much needed assistance. Also get Ms. Victoria Gotti in on helping Teresa see how she is being abused by BRAVO & Andy.

        Anyone out there able to get this kind of true grassroot defense of Teresa underway? I would be willing to help in any way as well. Someone MUST be able to remove Andy Cohen’s bigoted self from his position. TIME FOR THE TIDES OF JUSTICE TO SWEEP THE RANK HALLS OF BRAVO, THEIR TALKING TWAT SHOWS, AND THE INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIP THEY ALL HAVE WITH EACH OTHER.

        • December 7, 2012 at 10:19 AM | #159

          The Bravo ratings are terrible for RHOM and all his other stupid new shows. And he keeps churning them out. Hopefully, he will get fired. The ratings for his show suck, too.

  25. Jeannie5233
    December 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM | #160

    If Teresa is to be the sacrificial lamb this time around AGAIN, then it is on her shoulders – she must know what is going on – I find it hard to believe she is that dumb and/or naive. Her fans can only do so much – either she wakes up and doesn’t play the game or she will go down in flames as her fans will leave her in droves. Somebody better have a very serious conversation with this woman before it’s too late.

    For me, I DO want the Gorgas and Lauritas exposed to all the world for who and what they really are – lowlifes. And I do want Bravo and Andy exposed for their manipuations of the public.

    Money is the root of all evil – we all know that – and what is going on here is pure evil.

    • jeanbean
      December 6, 2012 at 10:30 AM | #161

      I agree with you Jeannie. It reminds me of Rhianna going back to Chris Brown. She had the publics sympathy but when you go back for more people will not be as forgiving. I would love to see Teresa just not engage with her castmates. Her best reunion moments were when she held back and just smiled ie about Jacs personal use of a private plane. Just enough for the viewers to have an aha moment.

    • December 9, 2012 at 9:26 AM | #162

      Jeannie, I agree with you. Teresa is no dummy. She’s not an intellectual, but the woman is by no means dumb. There is no way she would willingly allow herself to be the so-called sacrificial lamb for a THIRD season if it bothered her to do so. Or unless she is being handsomely rewarded for it. If it does truly happen again, I’m going to have a difficult time mustering up sympathy for her. It goes back to the “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me” philosophy. And it can be applied to both Teresa with regard to the other four and Teresa’s fans with regard to Teresa (if she is and has been going along with this the whole time).
      I have more thoughts on this but I’ll put it in a separate post…

  26. Tess
    December 6, 2012 at 9:21 AM | #163

    TL;DR Teresa didn’t really do anything to “expose” Melissa this season, unless you count that really bad “set-up” at Posch fashion show. She has 4 kids and she’s proven she’s not the one to run around and talk to people and collect info. If anything that sounds like Danielle and Melissa.
    I was really excited for season 5 before I started hearing all the stuff that Caroline and Jac were coming back and now that they’re prepping for Tre to be the villain again. Come on the last two seasons they did that and they were the w-o-r-s-t seasons! Ratings were through the roof but most of it towards the end was just unbearable to watch so what’s the point? I really hope they pick a different sacrificial lamb and I just hope that Teresa has at least one producer on her side.

    • AB
      December 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM | #164

      I was really, really hoping that the tables would turn this season and Melissa would get her just desserts. THAT would be fun to watch, to see someone who is doing terrible things get comeuppance. The only thing is that I would not want to see the Gorga children hurt, but it seems like they’re already being hurt by the rift between Joe G and Theresa.
      This show is already a parody of itself,and if Theresa is once again the villain, then it will be even worse. And yet, we’re all talking about it and there’s this site dedicated to it. I’m sure Bravo has noticed this and is thinking that even as we all complain about the show, we’re watching, so ratings are good with Theresa as the villain.
      Why, oh why do I keep watching? I get so annoyed that Theresa (who was clearly innocent even at the Brownstone christening event when Joe G started the fight out of nowhere and then later claimed that Theresa had instigated it) is called these terrible names for…what? Saying something in a cookbook? Allegedly (but probably not–that was probably Bravo) selling stories to the tabloids? Allegedly (but probably not–that was probably Bravo) setting up Melissa? The fact that Theresa is not intelligent enough to explain herself or the real situation just makes her a more sympathetic character. Viewers either think it means she’s lying or they want to reach out and help her because she’s being ganged up on by some really nasty, manipulative, selfish people and she is no match for them. The scowls Caroline makes when she’s watching Theresa should be reserved for someone who is truly, truly hurting others. There is no evidence that Theresa is doing any of that. Evidence is piling up that Melissa is much worse. Wouldn’t it be great if we saw HER get punished for it? And yet, the true villain walks away scot-free. How is that satisfying for viewers?

      • happylady
        December 6, 2012 at 1:09 PM | #165

        Ive wondered why I keep watching myself. The only reason I can come up with is I grew up watching too many Disney movies,meaning good always overcomes evil in the end & the bad guys always get their comeuppance. Im waiting for this cheap fairy tale to finally end I suppose, lol

      • December 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM | #166

        Melissa’s poor children are already being hurt by having her as a mother. They’re basically being raised by nannies by the sound of it. JoeGo can’t let her go anywhere without him so he’s not with them either. I’m surprised they took the kids to Jamaica. I guess she figures she has to have some photo ops with them.

        I agree with happylady… I go back just hoping that the truth will come out and the tables turned. It happens in the other franchises… the villain is always changing. It’s disheartening to here it’s going to be the same ole in NJ.

  27. Anonymous
    December 6, 2012 at 9:28 AM | #168

    It is so ironic that the show is more about the story being shared in social media. BravoAndy has no control over how Teresa is interpreted – portrayed, yes but that is only a small faction of how her fans perceive her! I really think it has back-fired on him. He probably likes being part of the online story arc. He/Andy misses the true impression of himself, he’s too out of touch in his Manhattan lalaland with his star-studded friends. He actually looks like the miserable lonely wrinkling older man, forever looking for love, spitefully jealous of the cute families and only able to feel comfortable with the morally corrupt like Melissa and Manzos. Teresa should pretend she does not know Melissa, “who’s that” – “what are you gossiping about” etc etc. Last season Caroline, Kathy and Jacqueline looked like manipulative psycho B’s trying to get her goat, make her crack and spill all the deets about her life. Now they are bringing everyone except the town plumber on the show to crack the giudice code – actually quite funny! Teresa, Go Giudice Positive and have fun!

  28. Cee_See
    December 6, 2012 at 9:58 AM | #169

    I’m going to say Teresa wised up on Kim D. especially after hearing that she speaks to Jaq for 1-1 1/2 hours per day on the phone. I’ll also say that Teresa isn’t going to trust people who are friends with the Manzo’s, Laurita’s and Gorga’s. We’ll see when season 5 comes out. I hope she wised up.
    It doesn’t surprise me that Melissa cheated on Joey when they were dating. I can see him punching her in the face at the boardwalk for cheating on him. Then kicking her out and taking her back. That explains why Joey is always with her when she performs. He doesn’t trust her skanky butt! I wonder if Teresa knew about the boardwalk incident? Maybe that’s why she never liked MelHo? Most narcissistic people are cheaters and when they find someone who forgives them (like Joey did her) then they found their narcissistic supply. Someone they can humiliate and laugh at behind their backs and in front of their face! Their sick, disgusting people! It feeds her ego when Joey questions her devotion to him. She probably plays along, like most narcs, but has to cheat to feed her ego!

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:28 PM | #170

      It rings true to me also. I’m sure Teresa knows it all and that’s why she feels the way she does about Melissa. Hence the comment about Melissa finding a richer man which I wouldn’t doubt she will do in time. It also explains why JoGo was soooo upset about that remark, you know crying and all… what he did the FIRST time he told Melissa about it. That’s why he was looking at Melissa in shock when she was playing him that stupid song, dear Joe or whatever it was. She could barely look at him while that song was playing but he was in awe and actually believing it. I also believe Melissa is bi and you know how guys feel about that… JoGo probably LOVES it. I’m not so sure I believe they have a totally open marriage in every sense of the word but I do believe they are very twisted.

  29. brittany
    December 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM | #171

    God bless Teresa I hope she finds out before hand,GOSH MY HEART BREAKS FOR HER<3!!!!
    Hopefully People won't by into it.!!!!!I'm done with rhonj if this happens to her!!!
    Melissa and Joe Gorga are horrible right along with the others!!!
    p.s. Loves Teresa bun!!!<3

  30. AB
    December 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM | #172

    Why does Theresa stay on the show when she is being portrayed as the villain? I assume it’s the money. She makes money from appearing on the show , and appearing on the show leads to other money-making opportunities. She’s not a skilled person and doesn’t have any other way to make money for her family at this point. She may even realize that a lot of the viewers have wised up and see that she’s not really the villain, so the longer she is gang-up on on the show, the more fans she’ll get…and the more fans Melissa–her nemesis–will lose.

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:30 PM | #173

      That’s why I think the others are switching their strategy this year and are going to be “civil” to her when they HAVE to see her. Basically, I think they are going to avoid her like the plague leaving her to be exploited by Kim D.

  31. nsr1076
    December 6, 2012 at 12:41 PM | #174

    I say we don’t give them the ratings we could let fame watch the show then recap it for us and we could see it as a rerun. That way they don’t get the ratings they want. WHat do ya say?

    • elemcee
      December 6, 2012 at 12:48 PM | #175

      Fame is so busy with his research, he probably does not have time. Maybe we could have guest bloggers for recaps? There are a lot of excellent writers here.

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:33 PM | #176

      As popular as Fame is, I’m afraid we won’t add up to much of a drop. Most people out there don’t even read blogs about the shows. They just watch it when it’s on and that’s it. They don’t get as involved as we do.

  32. hoolie
    December 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM | #177

    If T’s staying on the show and knows about this story arc, maybe it’s not the money….but it’s the contract…..maybe she signed with a 5 yr contract, or maybe after season 3, she resigned with a 2 yr….. or maybe she signed a contract season 5 (yearly contracts) and THEN found out she was going to be the sacrificial lamb….just thinking out loud

    • December 6, 2012 at 1:43 PM | #178

      this is what I am thinking, I do not think she cares about doing another two season like the others. After last season ended Caroline came out and said she was finished (a lie as usual), and news was WackoJac was not coming back which was a relieve to hear those two were gone. Now the wind has changed. I do not think Teresa signed on to another season of being bashed on. Bravo is just getting out of hand with this story line.

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:34 PM | #179

      Exactly. I did hear that she was seriously thinking about not coming back season three when Melissa first came on and decided at the last minute that she would. I can’t blame her really… why should she have let Melissa drive her away. I can’t say I wouldn’t have done the same thing. It’s very likely she’s contractually obligated.

    • December 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM | #180

      I don’t know, I think Adrienne tried to quit and her contract was airtight.

  33. Cutie
    December 6, 2012 at 1:29 PM | #181

    Someone should ask missy about BULLDOG on twitter….I’m sure it will bring him out to tell his side. If she is ever on watch happens live and denies him, I’m sure he will be pissed. He has been and their story has been on multiple sites under the comments. It obviously has some truth too it. I heard that they were engaged and he goes down the shore a lot.

    • elemcee
      December 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM | #182

      Wait! Isn’t there a Brian who posts about her periodically. He said her stripper name was Jordan and the pictures would be out soon… I think… Oh! He also said she had an affair with a married pilot (which makes sense if Lookers is right next to the airport), and Joe Marco came into Lookers and got into a fight with the pilot… or something like that. Probably coincidental because Brian is a VERY common name, but you never know.

      • happylady
        December 6, 2012 at 4:54 PM | #183

        Coincidence, I think not. LOL. Theres just too much to discount whenever it comes to Melissas past. I have zero benefit of the doubt left . BTW what kind of a stripper name is Jordan? Personally I think it was sprinkles, as in sprinkle cookies.

        • elemcee
          December 6, 2012 at 10:43 PM | #184

          LOL!!! Sprinkles! Well that would explain why Teresa hated those cookies so much!

  34. December 6, 2012 at 1:59 PM | #185

    In all seriousness, I wouldn’t have trusted Kim D after the fashion show where Danielle turned up with Kim G. Those two were playing games from the start. I think Kim’s got it in for the Gorgas but I’m not sure if she’s loyal to anyone but Kim i.e. herself.

    As for the Melissa stuff, if the same story is coming out time and again, and this one has been doing the rounds for quite sometime, growing at that then you gotta think there’s some validity to it. We know she got down back in the day, we can see through her thin veneer that the “thank you Jesus” schtick is a front (I don’t know but those bedazzled shirts she’s sell kind of irk me, I’m not particularly religious but went to Catholic school and see it as profiting of God, it’s a catchline now, not worshipping/praising Jesus). The butter wouldn’t melt thing went out the window when we peeked in and saw her telling Joe what to say to Teresa as he drove away from the fashion show. She doesn’t parade around with an air of maturity and class, she has an exhibitionist vibe – you can tell she likes people looking at her. She wears and uses her sexuality almost as a tool to manipulate if that makes sense…. I have a bout of insomnia and it’s a bit earlier where I am….. so it’s not a stretch for me to see that she may have cheated to get what she wants.

    I’m with my buddy up the page… release the photos! You can hide behind technology these days!

    • December 6, 2012 at 2:27 PM | #186

      Or as we say down here… “put up or shut up!”

    • happylady
      December 6, 2012 at 5:01 PM | #187

      Im with you sackem, Kim D looks out for # 1 above all else, she’ll be your friend as long as there is something to be gained. Id keep her close though if I were Theresa, the best defense is a good offense and what not. BTW how’s pregnancy treating you lately?

      • December 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM | #188

        We’re really good thanks. On the down hill slide – two months till push day so basically we’re formed and it’s about filling out now. I catch my reflection sometimes and get surprised by the growth spurts!

        • MomaJackie
          December 6, 2012 at 6:39 PM | #189

          So happy to hear all is good. Those two months will go by quickly, especially at this time of year. We were December 1st this past Saturday and in the two blinks of any eye it will be New Year’s Eve.

          • December 6, 2012 at 10:14 PM | #190

            Thanks Moma.. this year has gone so fast!

      • December 6, 2012 at 6:37 PM | #191

        Keep your friends close and your enemies closer as they say.

        • Anonymous
          December 7, 2012 at 6:16 AM | #192

          You must be in my head;-);-)

    • Monique
      December 6, 2012 at 5:41 PM | #193

      Oh most definitely! Kim comes off a bit shady. I’m surprised Teresa even hangs out with her. I think Teresa is friends with her because she believes she has her back. When it’s clear that she doesn’t.

  35. Meri
    December 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM | #194

    I will not watch rhonj if it is another bash, set up, humiliate, destroy Teresa show! There is enough hate in the world… I can watch the news if I want to see hate and evil. Smarten up Bravo! Andy Cohen … What is your problem? You are going to ruin your career over wanting to take Teresa down! Where is your compassion and moral compass? Petty drama and cat fights are one thing, but the calculated destruction of someone and their family is disgusting and not something I will watch!

    • December 6, 2012 at 3:33 PM | #195

      What Meri just said.

    • happylady
      December 6, 2012 at 5:07 PM | #196

      Agree wholeheartedly! When no one knows their names anymore and they’re featured on one of those where r they now? articles then whats left? After the dust settles and the real reality sets in a lot of regret is what they’ll have.

  36. Tulip
    December 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM | #197

    Andy is pure EVIL! It seems that Andy won’t be happy until he drives Teresa to a breakdown, or, I hate to say it, worse. Think of poor Russell Armstrong.

    Would it be effective if a bunch of viewers boycotted outside Bravo offices and contacted ALL the press? This is the only way to get this to mainstream media. I can’t believe Andy is allowed to get away with this bullshit!

    NBC is the parent company to Bravo. Perhaps if the head honchos at NBC who are over Andy Cohen need to be brought into the spotlight to get this out in the open?

    I refuse to watch one minute of Bravo TV. Andy thinks all the viewers are dumb and will watch anyway. Something has to be done. This has just gone too far. Teresa needs to SUE BRAVO.

    • December 6, 2012 at 7:13 PM | #198

      Why would Theresa sue Bravo? Are you crazy? Bravo is her employer, who PAYS her, which she likes. Get a hold of yourself.

      • December 6, 2012 at 10:25 PM | #199

        He is actually in breech of their code of conduct I believe….. it’s an easy google search. I guess it could come down to a signature agreeing to this code. Having said that, there is defamation and slander but the effort needed by one person to prove it would be too great. If Bravo mislead her in her representation then maybe she could do something… I’m not up on my American law… I’m part of the Empire.

        • December 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM | #200

          PS Interestingly enough the guy who shot Trayvon Martin is suing NBC for defamation via shonky editing practices. I wonder what kind of contract these women sign.

          • December 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM | #201

            Whoa, just did a little more reading around this and please note, I am in a different country and was unaware of the full impact of this case. It caught my eye that someone is actually suing the media for defamation … something that you very rarely see! Goes without saying it was not my intent to offend any fellow readers by raising a sensitive case and I was most definitely not trying to compare the two. My line of thinking was more along NBC being sued for inaccurate editing and what kind of “precedent” it would set. Please excuse my ignorance, whilst the case made headlines here it was not at a heightened level to fully stick in my conscience!!!!!

            • elemcee
              December 7, 2012 at 9:30 AM | #202

              Sackem, I do not think your comment about Trayvon offended anyone. And, there is a discovery hearing on Monday, so we will hear a lot about it the next week. It is interesting to see what will happen with NBC, Facebook, and Twitter. I have not researched the public media lawsuits, but I am guessing some precedents could be set. It is very interesting.

              • December 7, 2012 at 6:12 PM | #203

                Thanks!! I felt bad about bringing up the case. The policing of the media and social networks is very interesting to me… we’ve had some legal attempts here with twitter.

            • December 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM | #204

              Sackem, I wasn’t offended by you bringing up the Trayvon Martin case, honey. You live on the other side of the world from most of us. How could you have known the way the media sensationalized that case in the US? We know that you weren’t being insensitive. Nor were you comparing Bravo/NBC/Sirens Media to the case. It’s all good :-)

          • TiaGiaStory
            December 7, 2012 at 2:11 AM | #206

            Excellent points Sackem!! Congratulations on your blessing! Hope this finds you well. I wrote an idea on an above post…..where a large group of us basically write a request to The Trumps and ask them to help Teresa with someone to really handle her PR for her, not her relying on that snake Andy Cohen. People can say negative things to or about Donald Trump and his family all the time, but he respects someone, in this case Teresa, that has a deep core value of family and loyalty as well as an amazing work ethic. He would have NO problem holding BRAVO and Andy accountable for their biased treatment of Teresa and their allowing the other employees to brutally bully her to her face as well as lie about her in their talking heads (slander/liable?). They have already had one cast member commit suicide on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after being edited poorly. Teresa was crushed that her family would do what they did to her as well as her friends…especially all the malice directedbehind her back. What do you or Fame, or any others think about sending a call out for The Trumps to help Teresa??

            • Anonymous
              December 7, 2012 at 6:25 AM | #207

              I think Donald Trump is a very smart man,if he cares about her ,he’s already warned her !Just like Victoria !”G!!

              • Anonymous
                December 7, 2012 at 6:31 AM | #208

                You don’t get called to Dinner ,with the MAFIA PRINCESS FOR NO REASON ¿¡¡¡¿¡¿¿;-);-);-)

                • Anonymous
                  December 7, 2012 at 6:34 AM | #209

                  LET’S GET THE BIG GUNS OUT !

            • MomaJackie
              December 9, 2012 at 1:10 AM | #210

              I am in! Just give me the address/email. I am also planning a mass email, details to follow. Please consider joining.

            • December 9, 2012 at 10:11 AM | #211

              TiaGiaStory, I think your idea has a lot of merit and I love that you are so passionate about helping Teresa but I have a question. Particularly, what is it that Donald Trump would be able to do to help her? I’m not discounting Trump’s sway in nearly every forum; the man is superbly intelligent and almost frighteningly powerful (although I don’t always agree with his politics but that’s another discussion…) but even with all the cards he is capable of playing, I’m not sure what he is able to do for her.
              Teresa has willingly signed her name to a Bravo contract every single season for five years. Even after knowing what was going on behind her back, that her sister-in-law and brother came on the show with bad intentions against her, that her friends had turned against her, that Bravo was editing her and her family poorly, that storylines were scripted, that events were staged, that scenes were edited out of sequence and dialogue was spliced together to manipulate the audience, that each of her fellow cast members has told lies about her both on and off the show, that even her children were being shown in a negative light. Teresa is aware of ALL of this and still signed on for a 5th season. She is a willing participant in it.
              I agree that Andy’s treatment of Teresa is biased and I agree with the notion a lot of commenteres here share that Andy hates Teresa and it manifests itself in the poor edit she receives on the show. But she does not have to keep going back for it.
              If a kid in school sits at one specific table in the cafeteria everyday and gets bullied when he sits at that table, what would you tell him? Sit at one of the other twenty available tables. Don’t continue to willingly sit at the table where you KNOW you are going to get bullied. At some point, you only have yourself to blame for your own mistreatment if you keep going back for it. Teresa can’t call “slander!” on Bravo when she keeps agreeing to the terms of their contracts.
              I would love to see your idea come to fruition and Bravo be held accountable for its obvious biased editing and Andy’s obvious disdain for Teresa (which results in the biased editing plus the rigged polls and the blog comments not getting through). But I think that can only happen after she is off the show. Even better, it should happen when she is off the show because she has her OWN show on a different (rival) network and is kicking RHONJ’s ass in ratings. I would bet my last dollar that Trump has pull at networks other than NBC. THAT would be an awesome way for him to help her. IMO :-)

  37. Rachel
    December 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM | #212

    I refuse to watch another season if it’s Teresa bashing again, I will watch the first episode and that will be all I give them. I’m all for good drama, but these women cannot be happy for one another, show the viewers some PEACE!! I believe that as viewers we should warn Andy, and like he says, tweet him, email, facebook and let him know we won’t stand for this! At this point, I don’t care if Mel is exposed or not, I want the old Tre back!

    Is there a possibility that maybe Bravo is trying to alienate Tre from the group in order to give her a spinoff show? I mean isn’t that what they did with Bethenny and KimZ? I really hope this is all there is to it.

  38. dubbalicious
    December 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM | #213

    Yesterday I was having my nails done and came across an US Mag. from Oct 6
    It wasn’t a Teresa cover but, a side item titled Joe tells off his sister…The article absolutely demonized Teresa, accusing her of setting up Melissa as a stripper..It again led me back to the article Fame had talking with the producers about Bravo playing to the public..We as a blog community look for the truth, the public goes by what they read in the magazines as gospel.. and Teresa is the evil, trouble making HW.
    It sickens me to know what we know yet, the public is being fed this manufactured BS..I too am hoping Teresa is smart enough not to engage…The saving grace can be that she reads these sites and sees what’s being presented!! Why is there a small part of me that believes Teresa is in on her own story line and as she’s said, a loyal Bravo employee. Possible??

  39. Monique
    December 6, 2012 at 5:36 PM | #214

    Teresa in that plum dress…STUNNING!!! Teresa is so beautiful. Her fashion is unbelievable! I see why her cast mates dislikes her. Now–As for this post…I really hope that Teresa listens to Stark because the last thing she needs is to be fooled again definitely by someone that she believes is her friend. It’s crazy how obsessed I have got with this show. I’m not obsessed with the people but obsessed with the storyline and the betrayal. It’s absurd to me that people that do defend the Gorga’s, Manzo’s, Laurita’s and, the Waklie’s are not questioning their motives. Definitely from Kathy’s end. Someone who is your cousin and is being mistreated very poorly by people she barely knows and befriended them through jealously of her cousin Teresa is just crazy to me. They’ll soon will reap what they will sow.

    As I have said before Melissa is just with Joe for accommodation. She needs him for that boost to stardom and she’s GONE!!! Jacqueline will be called out through her daughter in due time and maybe Dr. Drew will have another “Celebrity Rehab” show and Jacqueline will be on the show and would probably by diagnosed w/ some form of mental illness, I’m sure bipolar. One thing I DO NOT want to see next season is Teresa being gained up on AGAIN! If this does occur next season it will only mean that Andy is DEFINITELY apart of it. I told myself that I will not get so involved with this show again but, it’s SO HARD!!! I just want vengence for Teresa. She does not deserve this and in due time that whole cast including Ms. Andy will regret how they treated her.Bravo needs a new co-host for those shows. I would LOVE to be one. haha.

  40. December 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM | #215

    I know a lot of you guys are avid All About the Real Housewives, I pop over from time to time. I found this interesting and kinda relevant to this subject. Here’s a blip from one of their latest posts about Kathy Wakile… can I just say she’s about a day late cause she seems intent to sustain the war despite claiming to wanting to stay away from cat fights or is it just me?

    http://www.tamratalks.com/ (full interview)

    AATRH excerpt: Kathy joined RHOC’s Tamra Barney on her new podcast Tamra Talks to talk about the holidays and the show, which Kathy subtly admitted she was already filming and she was on her way to an event with Jacqueline and Caroline. Tamra asked what Kathy’s situation was currently with the Giudices, and Kathy says what we all already presumed, “the reunion left things like a mess.”

    Tamra brought up Joe Giudice and the way he kept arguing with Kathy at the reunion. Kathy reveals that she did not want to fight with Joe and says he’s a few rungs below her! Which ladder is she talking about? Kathy dishes, “I wasn’t going to engage him. I didn’t want to give him the opportunity to bash me, or say something that would really be terrible. Ii just left it alone. I’m not going to get into fight with someone that’s just not on my level.”

    Tamra asks Kathy if Richie would ever kick Joe’s ass after the way he was talking to them, and Kathy admits Joe would beat Richie’s ass because he’s not a fighter. Can we make this happen for season five? I would die.

    Kathy also talked to Tamra about what the downside of the show was so far. Kathy promises more outspokenness, but that she still wants to stay away from any cat fights. Kathy reveals, “A lot of people want to see more of what I’m really thinking. They think that I/m holding back or I don’t say what I’m really feeling. I could be as tough as the next guy but what would it do, go to battle? I don’t have enough energy for getting into a cat fight. I will try to voice my opinion and try to get my opinion heard a little more direct.”

    Kathy adds, “I try to keep the peace, but sometimes I have to give you a piece.”

    http://www.allabouttrh.com/kathy-wakile-talks-reunion-arguement-with-joe-giudice-and-reveals-what-she-wants-to-improve-next-season/

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:01 PM | #216

      PS it’s around the 22 min mark where they also make fun of Joe’s stature.

    • elemcee
      December 6, 2012 at 10:56 PM | #217

      I am surprised that Kathy seems unaware that she was pushed aside in every scene the second half of the season 4. Even Melissa seems to have no patience for her. That scene on Melissa’s stoop was very telling. The reunion obviously speaks for itself. She is going to have to yell awfully loud to “make her voice heard”. I suspect that will not work out too well for her.

  41. Greek Chick
    December 6, 2012 at 6:20 PM | #218

    I’m just loving every minute of this.

    • December 6, 2012 at 6:29 PM | #219

      … tone is sometime hard to figure in text….

  42. qb
    December 6, 2012 at 6:25 PM | #220

    plz tell me this is not true!!!

  43. Jeannie5233
    December 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM | #221

    The fact that this article posted a little more than 24 hours ago and already has over 135 comments, with mostly all of them saying the same thing speaks volumes.

    Anyone remember the Academy Award winning 1976 movie “Network”, written by Paddy Chayefsky starring Peter Finch and Faye Dunaway, and the infamous line:

    “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take this anymore!”

    Well, that line certainly applies here. For those of you too young to remember you really should see it – a story about the horrific lengths a network with declining ratings goes to in order to become a ratings success (a very loose connection to what happened with Russell Armstrong, but a connection none the less).

  44. JennyS
    December 6, 2012 at 11:54 PM | #222

    Who wore a sequined minidress to parent’s night at Colonial Road School tonight? Parent of the year Jacqueline Laurita!!! Shopping for schools for Nicholas perhaps as this one isn’t in her district – unless they moved. And by “shopping for schools” I mean, looking for teachers who will believe he’s autistic and help fuel her storyline. Anything to stay relevant.

    • elemcee
      December 7, 2012 at 9:22 AM | #223

      Oh boy,sequins and all…

    • hoolie
      December 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM | #224

      You’re kidding right??? Sequined dress??? Please tell me someone took a picture w/their phone of that….

      • JennyS
        December 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM | #225

        LOL. Nope, I wish. My friend was there, her kids are in that school but Jax’s aren’t. I can only wonder if they were filming somewhere that my friend didn’t see because why the hell would you wear a green sequined dress to parent’s night?

        • Anonymous
          December 7, 2012 at 4:50 PM | #226

          Ask her if it was this dress: http://www.bergen.com/topstories/Social_Scene_Real_Housewives_attend_201_Clubs_inaugural_holiday_party.html

          If so then yes, they were filming. Kim D, Elvira and Noelle were also in pictures.

          Ps I know it’s never nice to comment on someone’s looks but dayum… Jac needs to STOP eating her feelings… Either that or get a new stylist, puhhhh-leeeze ;)

          • Jeannie5233
            December 7, 2012 at 9:53 PM | #227

            I know I have spoken loud and clear how I feel about commenting on someone’s appearance – so all I will say is OH MY! Both Caroline and Jacqueline need a new seamstress to help them fit in their dresses better – What is so appealing about looking like a 5lb sausage stuffed into a 3lb casing (to paraphrase Caroline’s description of her own daughter!)? Why do these women think that looks attractive? I don’t get it!

            • MomaJackie
              December 9, 2012 at 1:13 AM | #228

              Love your posts Jeannie5233!

              • Jeannie5233
                December 9, 2012 at 8:29 AM | #229

                Back at ya MomaJackie :) I enjoy your posts as well, fully support your enormous efforts and will join you with your mass email. Please keep us posted!

            • December 9, 2012 at 11:01 AM | #230

              Jeannie, I get it and I agree with you. Pointing out ill-fitting clothes isn’t the same as making fun of image flaws that can’t be controlled. I don’t like it when people tease Teresa’s and Melissa’s foreheads or Richie’s teeth – that really isn’t nice, they can’t help those things. But there is no reason or explanation for wearing clothing that is too small or does not flatter your figure or worst of all, is not age appropriate. Melissa and I are the same age and I would not wear many of the clothes that she wears because frankly we are too old to be dressing that way. To be clear, I am thinner than she is so it’s not like I CAN’T wear what she wears, I just wouldn’t. I’m not saying this just because I like her but Teresa continuously looks amazing, wearing properly fitting, age appropriate clothing that reflects her personality most of the time (she’s had a few clunkers but not many). Caroline usually gets it right, too. But Jacqueline and Kathy would look much better in dresses that streamline their silhouettes, emphasize their waists and draw attention away from problem areas. It’s uncomfortable to look at them because THEY look uncomfortable in their clothes.
              Every woman should know how to dress for her body type. Especially women who are on TV and/or who can and do utilize the help of a stylist. These women need a visit from Stacy London and Clinton Kelly… ;-)

          • JennyS
            December 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM | #231

            OMG Excellent find!

            Looks like she spent the day running her errands and putting in appearances in that dress. Okay, I sent it to my friend for confirmation. Will let you know what I hear.

  45. Anonymous
    December 7, 2012 at 8:15 AM | #232

    I’ve been reading this blog for sometime now and i feel Teresa will never get it. And if she does she won’t say any thing on t.v. her old ways style. If i’m correct she is trying to bail her and her family out of debt, so i can’t be mad at her working to pay what she owes. I do find it annoying and i really am hoping for the best. if she would just leave Bravo. Problem solved. i don’t feel she would agree to her family being set up, so what is Bravo to do ? Even if i don’t watch i will support her, i really do think she is a pawn

    • Anonymous
      December 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM | #233

      It’s just so sad it’s come down to this!?Makes me sick!!We’ve all been here for what !!SMD BRAVO !!

    • Rachel
      December 7, 2012 at 2:36 PM | #234

      I’m sure she gets it, she just wants to feed her family, I mean last season she made about $355,000. She’s a hard working mom and is willing to take the abuse in order to get her family ahead. She might also look at the positive in the negative, they treat her bad they get more ratings and she gets more supporters, which might land her a spinoff. Besides, if that was her last season’s salary, I can only imagine how much this season will be. I just feel bad that she has to go through all this abuse. Let’s not mention all the contracts, free stuff and “free” advertising that she is getting (although some think all of this might not be enough, she wants to pay off her debt which is commendable).

      People call her stupid but I think she is the smartest out of all of the housewives, but she is not calculating like the rest of them. Look at Melissa she has her good girl “Thank you Jesus” thing going and it’s only a matter of time before it all comes to light that she really isn’t like that. I mean no one is that nice! All of her fans will turn and she will be left with nothing, kinda like a lot of people has turned on Caro. Tre has taking advantage of this housewife franchise and the spotlight (whether good or bad) that she has and turned it into a business, just like Bethenny. Sadly, the other NJ housewives are trying to do so but it’s too little too late.

      I am torn between watching them bash Tre and helping them get ratings ( which leads to helping her get a paycheck) or not watch it and see how RHONJ goes down. I believe Bravo would be stupid to get rid of Teresa, she is a money maker, the show revolves around her! Unless they are willing to let RHONJ go down in flames like they did NY (by getting rid of Beth and Jill = major drama) and give her a spinoff (like they did Beth). This season will decide it and I am only hoping that the Guidices get their own show, I mean is it just me or is Milania reality tv gold?

  46. Cutie
    December 7, 2012 at 10:35 AM | #235

    We need bulldogs twitter

  47. Anonymous
    December 7, 2012 at 5:05 PM | #236

    Check out Tres twitter, apparently her and Kathy are being civil towards one another…. Not sure what to think about this!

  48. Sksksj
    December 7, 2012 at 7:21 PM | #237

    Oh jeez

  49. xxciaobelloxx
    December 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM | #238

    alright guys i am going into the lions den tomorrow, my mom is having a work christmas party and apparently all her friends who are anti-teresa want to talk to me..im like bring it it, but any tips/advice..im not really articulate/confrontational …

    • December 7, 2012 at 9:46 PM | #239

      Thats really funny. Well-whatever happens don’t take it personally or attack your mom and her friends personally.
      They probably think that they have valid reasons for being anti-T. I think that you should listen with an open mind, and be respectful, and then let them have it!
      Ha ha just kidding. I wouldn’t say that I was ever a Teresa “hater”, but I really didn’t have any respect for her OR her fans.
      Her popularity baffled me.
      It was only after she became successful that I was more curious about her and her fans.
      So I studied her behavior and I began to understand the attraction.
      Despite anything about her or her storyline on NJ Housewives that I found annoying, I realized that she has a lot of really good things going for her.
      I think if you explain what you like about T rather than get involved in any confrontation, that you will have a great meeting-of-the-minds. You all watch the same show after all, and its a lot of fun to compare notes.
      The reason that I’m so sure that you’ll have fun, and maybe even make some new opinions for yourself is because the same thing happened to me yesterday ha ha.
      It turned out that my doctor is a big fan of the show, AND-Mellisa Gorga!
      I really didn’t want to say anything negative about Melissa to her-why would I want to spoil her enjoyment?
      So I listened, and although I had some pretty big prejudices about the Gorga’s, it at least confirmed to me that they are entertaining some real people-(not just fake “eggs”), and just like that I decided to give ALL of the RHHW-(um-except maybe Caroline ha ha), another chance since it looks like they are ALL coming-back.
      And for full disclosure, I have to admit that I tweeted to Melissa, and she Tweeted me right back within minutes. (OK then it looks like she deleted it but I’m not going to hold that against her either).

      Believe it or not, it really isn’t easy to see Teresa’s good points. Some people are not charmed by her language-difficulties, and they see it as stupidity. I’m like Lea Black when it comes to style, so Teresa’s taste and style didn’t impress me in the least. (although I do think that Teresa has made a couple of good, “what not to wear” choices especially with her kid’s outfits)….but what it boils-down to is that Teresa is pretty interesting and unique, and no one has the right to try and take that away from her.
      There are some people who are jealous because they consider themselves to be SO much more intelligent then T-yet they don’t have the kind of achievements that she has.-OUCH!
      They consider it offensive that someone who appears to be a ignorant as Teresa sometimes does, projects such a positive attitude and it blows those people’s minds when they consider how really successful Teresa has been in business.
      I really hope that she doesn’t get involved in any bashing-of her co-workers or family either. Some people saw that as selfishness and Teresa not really caring about anyone except herself, but her fans (of which I still am one), saw more of a nature to not be mean to other people.
      When Teresa said, “I didn’t care”-about her friend Jaq.’s troubles, I took that to mean that she really didn’t care to bash Jaq. about Jaq.’s problems, that Teresa considered Jacqueline a friend despite any troubles that they both were going-through, and that Teresa doesn’t need for Jaq. to confess her dark secrets to Teresa.
      Unfortunately, Jacqueline and the Manzo’s come-across as wanting to punish Teresa for her success for some reason. When it comes to Jacqueline, I think she has a good heart and an awesome sense of humor-what has been said here about Teresa being too easily influenced, is more what I think has happened to Jaquiliene. And maybe some hurts and hard-feelings that we don’t know about.-oh well I’m done taking-over this blog! sorry again Famewhorga–I cannot find your Twitter by the way-where is it?

      • MomaJackie
        December 9, 2012 at 1:55 AM | #240

        Until this post, I thought you were a Marco “damage control agent”.

        Teresa does have a degree, more than likely, with the exception of Melissa ,one of the only wives on this series.

        I come from a family in which French was the primary language, this is so hard to explain. My mother’s “pluffy”, pillow, soft and fluffy. Some things were not invented, i.e., interstate highways, computers, teflon, ultrasound, etc. when my family came here. By the way, ultrasound came out of my dear mother’s lips as “auto shine”. Just trying to shed some light on growing up, speaking two languages.

        • MomaJackie
          December 9, 2012 at 2:05 AM | #241

          Oh, I forgot to mention, my mother had a teaching degree, (but never worked and was a stay at home mom) and my father was a civil engineer. I am 57 years old.

          • December 9, 2012 at 5:13 AM | #242

            Its amazing to me how people underestimate people who don’t speak native English. I know that I couldn’t just move somewhere and get immersed in another language. Even-though Teresa was born in the USA, she was raised in an Italian-speaking home and she probably learned English in school. She may not have even understood very much when she 1st started school.
            I was in a restaurant ordering breakfast once and my friend looked at the waiter and said in her accent, “I’ll have two eggs any style.” And it took us all a minute to figure that one out.
            The French accent is pretty rare on the East Coast- I had a teacher from France and she was really mean I always thought she was a frustrated Madame Curie wannabe.

            • December 9, 2012 at 11:05 PM | #243

              hh, That’s actually exactly how Teresa learned English – in school. She’s said it herself many times – that she spoke Italian at home up until she went to kindergarten and there she learned English. She says she also thinks in Italian and translates in her head which is why many of her words come out wrong. I wish people would lay off her for this. According to Gallup, 75% of Americans only speak English. And not for nothing but most of the native English speakers I know have atrocious language skills. Teresa speaks two languages. Her husband speaks THREE. And people have nerve to criticize them for saying “cawfee”? Please.

      • December 9, 2012 at 10:55 PM | #244

        housewifehater, I have to say it’s really refreshing to read your take on RHONJ and your perspective on Teresa even though you admit you aren’t a fan of hers. You are an eloquent writer and an excellent debater and I’m enjoying reading your comments. It’s really nice when we can discuss differing viewpoints without having to go to war or resort to elementary name-calling. Thanks for your input here and I hope you stick around even though this is mostly a pro-Teresa site :-)

        • December 10, 2012 at 9:31 AM | #245

          Thanks for the compliments HLC!-(as I try to picture Cher’s hair?)….I actually have come to admire Teresa very much. Who couldn’t side with Teresa after last season? This particular posting on FW, in some way made me feel that same kind of sympathy for Melissa. I’ve had a grudge against Melissa since she came on the show!
          Of course I’ve always thought that Teresa and her children are gorgeous, but I have to admit that I did see her through the eyes of a hater, and the bottom-line for that, for me, was simply jealousy.
          “When do I get MY 11 million to blow?”, was pretty-much my opinion. And I’m embarrassed to admit that I did want to see her shamed a little. But she taught me a lesson, really more than one, AND she was pretty darn entertaining.
          If Bravo goes-ahead with anything like what the content of this post leads one to believe, taking Teresa’s family into more darkness and sleaze, I just don’t think I’ll be able to watch. There is a huge difference between recording reality and editing it, and directing reality, and I don’t like the direction that it appears that Bravo has chosen to push these people towards if that makes any sense.
          I’ve even noticed that Melissa doesn’t appear to have the happiness just to be in the spotlight that it looked like she had before. We’ve already had to watch what i think is way too much of Caroline looking like she’d rather be anywhere else.
          I think the goofy smiles and ignorant bliss that we see from some of the HW who are just so happy to be on television, while the editors are plotting to edit them to look ridiculous, is part of what keeps me coming back, but destroying families is not.
          I don’t know how much of that is true. It could be that Bravo/production is just working with what they have, or actually inventing ALL of it. That’s what I tell myself when I get too wrapped-up in being disgusted with what I see going-on there.
          No matter who’s side anyone is on, I think that most viewers/fans and maybe even Bravo are rooting for the Giudice/Gorga kids to get to enjoy their cousins. The drama that is caused for the children is heart-breaking and nobody wants to see that. And even Teresa’s Gia, who could be playing-up the drama for the camera, because she is a natural drama-queen, –they just let it all go to far in my opinion.

    • December 7, 2012 at 10:45 PM | #246

      Well if all else fails, you could always pull a Joe Giudice and tell em all the “STFU”!!! Hahaha!

    • Anonymous
      December 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM | #247

      i always make my kids tell my why. It’s ok to not like something or someone but you should know why. I think if they really think about it they will see she is a hard working family girl a little goofy but she lights up a room her kids are a riot and she is the show

  50. xxciaobelloxx
    December 8, 2012 at 8:38 AM | #248

    thank you everyone :) i appreciate your input

  51. Honnie Badger
    December 8, 2012 at 8:43 AM | #249

    I just cannot see Teresa wasting time and energy trying to “expose” anybody. First, I really feel she lacks guile, is not a schemer or plotter. She is emotionally reactionary. Second, she has so much going on in her life, personally and professionally.

    Therefore, if Bravo and the production company are wanting to create this story arc, I feel they will really have to pull rabbits out of hats to make it plausible.

  52. December 8, 2012 at 6:32 PM | #250

    Just one comment and I’ll try and keep it generic. Someone who makes a serious accusation about another is more than likely quite confident of the truth of it… if they are smart anyway. It speaks quite loudly if no action is taken on such an accusation. No one wants to bring a slander suit to something about them that is true because then it will just make whoever is making the accusation prove it since that will be their defense. The person being accused doesn’t want to bring anymore attention to it and certainly doesn’t want to make anyone prove it when it can be proven. The accused would rather have people just question it and wonder about the truth than to remove all doubt and lose the slander suit in the end anyway. That’s actually why I do believe it is true.

    • JennyS
      December 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM | #251

      I agree with you. Court records are accessible during business hours and I’ve searched 10 times for Joe and his cases, it doesn’t appear anywhere, but it could have been expunged from his record. Or, perhaps, my own cynical self thinks that someone with really big pockets and a motive had it expunged. The comment, when it was made, screamed to me like it was a friend of the girl it happened to, and that at the core, there was a shred of truth to it.

  53. December 8, 2012 at 6:33 PM | #252

    Hope all is well with you and your home housewifehater.

    • December 9, 2012 at 4:54 AM | #253

      TY-well it did flood again last night, but it just helped confirm some things in my own mind and also proved to the people who had huge industrial fans and commercial dehumidifiers running that they are fighting a hopeless cause. I might not have even left but all the equipment made me nervous with the rising-water and they told me not to turn it off for any reason, so i didn’t.

      • December 9, 2012 at 5:03 PM | #254

        I’m so sorry to hear that. Not that there’s ever a good time for such a thing to happen but it’s even worse during the holidays IMO. My ex-house had to be ripped apart last year at this time because of mold (we’ve since moved because of it but we’re renters so it was easy for us to just walk away). Anyway, it really put a damper on our holidays. My heart goes out to you. I’m assuming you were a victim of Sandy (?). I’m in nw Jersey… we got off easy comparably… one fallen tree in the yard and losing power for some time. My bf’s sister and niece live in Seaside. His niece lost her house completely and his sister’s first floor was completely under water… she had to be evacuated during the storm (can’t believe she didn’t leave beforehand). Such a shame what you are all going through. Just awful.

        I can’t say I blame you for not wanting to stick around… electricity and water aren’t good to mix. I truly hope things work out for you and your life gets back to some kind of normalcy asap.

        • December 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM | #255

          Yep-Thank-you. I’m on the same barrier island as AC and in a low-lying area. I had to swim out of my house during the storm with my dry clothes, flashlight, a submarine-sandwich,some brownies I had packed for my “hurricane party”, and bottled-water wrapped-up in garbage-bags in a floating recycling container that I dragged-along with a rope. (my house was filling-up with water FAST! and starting to float-away)
          The house is gutted and the worst part of all of this has been trying to deal with FEMA.
          I finally realized that it is a communication problem because their rep. told me that he was trying to help me but I wasn’t giving him the “right” answers. I think that telling them the truth is a good-enough answer ha ha, so I’m sticking with that.
          I finally had my therapy appointment that I knew I was going to need last week, and they were ready to have me committed or tranquilized. The therapist called my regular doctor and my poor doctor was really worried that I really was going to snap. Even FEMA had a wonderful counselor right by my side, (I asked for that but she was there for any and everyone), on my in-person visit. What my Dr. doesn’t understand is that I have been through this before and that I’m trying to get the right treatment for being traumatized so that it doesn’t linger for 2 years without me knowing it.

          • December 9, 2012 at 11:23 PM | #256

            Wow, hh, my heart goes out to you. I’m on Long Island and I was also right in the path of Sandy but I’m at the most inland part of the island so didn’t get as much of the impact as others did. I’m astonished at what you’ve described and am thankful that you’re safe despite what you’ve been through. I’ve been keeping those who were more affected than I was in my thoughts and prayers everyday since the storm and will now count you among them. Please take care of yourself (((hug)))

            • December 10, 2012 at 8:06 AM | #257

              Thank-you so much HLC! And I forgot to mention that I’m too old for this stuff ha ha. I kept thinking that if this had all happened to my younger self, I would be having a lot more fun. Thank-you for your prayers, I appreciate them, and they may have even helped already. I woke up this morning after a completely refreshing night’s sleep-something I had been lacking lately.

          • MomaJackie
            December 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM | #258

            Housewifehater, I feel and know your pain and will keep you in my prayers. Trust me, you will get through this. I truly believe in “what doesn’t kill you makes your stronger”. Right after a six figure remodel in 2004, my home was visited by Katrina and Rita in August/September of 2005. Fema and my insurance company were of NO help at all. In September of 2008 Gustav ripped off our roof, my home had to be gutted again, but this time the insurance company paid (in February of 2009), because it was not considered flooding. Needless to say I was holding my breath during Isaac and I was spared. If we are alive and have our health, we have it all.

            • December 10, 2012 at 8:24 AM | #259

              Thank-you for reminding me MJ and oh my gosh, I didn’t think that anyone had a situation like mine with back-to-back unplanned remodelings, (we had a fire last year and the insurance cov. there worked great ), but Holy cow you really have been through it!
              TY for your prayers as well. I honestly feel much better today and maybe some of it was just getting some of my story out to people who cared. I was praying for you too during the mess of Katrina, and i was one of the people who noticed that it looked like the whole world had forgotten about all of you after the storm had passed, seeing the way that happened is something I’ll never forget—-the national news had moved-on but there were little voices online from the area and the New Orleans newspaper comments section saying, “help us this is really bad”.
              My whole town here was shaken-up pretty badly, but not one person was killed by the storm so I do consider the miracle that it wasn’t worse than it was.

          • LifeIsGood
            December 10, 2012 at 6:30 AM | #260

            I wish you the best, HWH.

            • December 10, 2012 at 8:26 AM | #261

              TY LIG! Same to you and your’s, and thank-you for caring I really think it does matter.

          • December 11, 2012 at 5:24 PM | #262

            I’m so sorry for what you’re having to deal with housewifehater. I can’t imagine having to swim out of my home in a storm and seeing my home destroyed. I’ve seen photos of the areas hit and it is devastating. I hope you’ve found the right treatment to get you through this tough period. I’m glad FEMA is provided guidance for you. And I hope your home can be restored soon. I’m praying for you.

            For the future… those who live near bodies of water, if you don’t have national flood insurance, here’s a link that explains it and how to get it (standard homeowners insurance doesn’t cover flooding, but the government does through the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), which offers flood insurance to homeowners, renters, and business owners if their community participates in the NFIP).

            http://www.floodsmart.gov/floodsmart/pages/faqs/faqs_considering.jsp

  54. Jeannie5233
    December 8, 2012 at 7:45 PM | #263

    As I recall in the Fall of 2011 after the fallout from the Posche Fashion Show debacle, and the news was “leaked” that Melissa had supposedly been a dancer, i.e. stripper at Lookers, Melissa and Joey Gorga went to the media outlets and tabloids screaming that they would sue anyone who called Melissa a stripper. Melissa produced paystubs which of course contradicted the many stories she had told about the length of time she was employed by Lookers (also, remember her telling people to look up her real estate transactions – she really does think people are generally stupid).

    The Gorgas went so far as to hire the attorney who represented them and the Wakiles during contract negotiations with Bravo when joining RHONJ. He vowed that he would “aggressively pursue the commencement of litigation against any and all individuals, in any jurisdiction; who have or continue to dessiminate false statements against Melissa Gorga.”

    Then all of a sudden – crickets. No more threats. No lawsuits came out against anyone. Could be getting legal advice was a smart move on the Gorgas’ part. Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.

    • ChemGeek
      December 8, 2012 at 9:51 PM | #264

      It was definitely a smart move on da Gorgas part and my guess is that the lawyer laughed in their faces. MeHo has told so many lies that she can’t keep them straight. Even the story about how JoGo and MeGo met is a downright mystery. Who doesn’t remember that story? I’ll tell you who: Someone who has something to hide. Her dirty list is so long that no lawyer in his/her right mind would back her. Odds are there are more character witnesses to testify against her than for her faux lifestyle. Someone who has a decent character does not need to tout about being a good person, being a good mother, being a good singer and being successful. The proof is always in the puddin’. I shy away from anyone that needs to throw a tantrum to receive validation. Queen Narcissist Marco in all her reigning J-Lo wannabe “born to be a mommy” glory.

      If the Gorgas fall on their faces and MeGo makes a living and stops with the “We pay our bills” and other digs, I’ll give her a chance. I believe people can change. I wouldn’t bet on her changing but I’m open to it.

    • December 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM | #265

      Hmmmm is right. This is exactly what i’m talking about. If JoGo was crying and threatening to call a lawyer about Melissa being called a stripper (big deal) then how can he so easily dismiss the much more serious allegation about his own “actions.” IMO, there is one answer. He wouldn’t have a case because it’s true. They’re much better off staying quiet and ignoring it or else they’d be forcing proof of the truth to come out.

      As far as Melissa changing, I don’t think it’s even possible. She is who she is. I don’t believe she has a good core and that’s putting it nicely. IMO if we see any change in Melissa, it will be for the cameras only. She’s a con and completely untrustworthy. Even if by some miracle she did transform herself, I believe it would be too little too late. There’s been too much damage done. I commend you ChemGeek… you’re obviously a forgiving person and an optimist for thinking it’s possible.

      • Dubbalicious
        December 9, 2012 at 6:45 PM | #266

        I agree with you dch60
        They’re all a day late and a dollar short!! For me, there’s no redemption. The damage unfortunately is done.

  55. Anonymous
    December 9, 2012 at 8:29 AM | #267

    wow !! I left here a minute ago ,what happened??

  56. LilyM
    December 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM | #268

    Hi girls, back home after giving birth to my little baby boy, we are all doing great ! We had a scare at the beginning but all is good now, he had a little fluid on his lungs and was breach, so the c-section was more necessary after all, good to catch up on everything that’s going on on TRHONJ, but I got to say if they continue on the same road I will be stop watching the series, is not worth it for me, I will feel like I am wasting my time on the same crap again… Hope all of you are doing great and getting ready for the holidays !! :)

    • Jeannie5233
      December 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM | #269

      LilyM!!!!!

      Congratulations on the birth of your beautiful baby boy – and I know he is because, in my opinion, ALL babies are beautiful as they are such a tremendous gift!! I’m glad to hear that even though you may have had a little bit of a rough start, everything is good now. I hope he is thriving and that YOU are healing well trying your best to rest when you can! Best wishes and much happiness to you and your entire family! I am very happy for you – what a wonderful blessing! :)

    • DD
      December 9, 2012 at 5:03 PM | #270

      LilyM Congratulations on your Baby Boy!

    • December 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM | #271

      Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How very exciting.

    • December 9, 2012 at 5:45 PM | #272

      Congrats Lily! So glad everything worked out and all’s well. Now your holidays will be all the merrier. Enjoy your blessing.

    • December 9, 2012 at 11:28 PM | #273

      Congratulations, LilyM! Such wonderful, joyous news! Enjoy every second with you new little one! xo

    • MomaJackie
      December 10, 2012 at 4:01 AM | #274

      Congratulations LilyM. What a wonderful Holiday blessing. Glad everything turned out alright.

    • December 11, 2012 at 5:04 PM | #275

      Hi LilyM. I’m a little behind in reading the comments, so I’m just now seeing your great news. Congratulations on your new baby boy! I’m so glad everything is going well now. Hugs to you and your baby!

  57. Jeannie5233
    December 9, 2012 at 5:01 PM | #276

    Off topic but interesting!!!

    Well, it looks as though Missy is thinking of making the big move!

    She tweeted today:

    Melissa Gorga @melissagorga
    Off to Franklin Lakes to look at properties;.)
    10:02am 9 Dec 12

    Is this real or fake – and is it being filmed for Season 5 as a storyline that Melissa and Joey are going to make that move to “get away” from Teresa! I hope they do – it will give Teresa some breathing room!

    • Anonymous
      December 9, 2012 at 5:53 PM | #277

      That post struck me as funny because I could have swore JoGo posted a pic of the “haunted building” as his newest build and their future home… Hmm.

      Did you notice a few tweets before was a pic of her and jacaloon on a double date… Too sweet right? Ugh.

      • December 9, 2012 at 6:12 PM | #278

        He was turning the “haunted” building into apartments. That wasn’t for them personally.

        I think it’s disgusting that Jac and Melissa are apparently friends and flaunt it. No matter how strong Teresa is, that has to hurt. I can’t believe there’s anyone that wouldn’t find that cruel. How anyone can be pro-Melissa boggles my mind, even if they don’t like Teresa.

        • Dubbalicious
          December 9, 2012 at 6:38 PM | #279

          It seems they all hung out together last night. Kathy and Rosie both tweeted to the gang..isn’t that sweet?

        • December 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM | #280

          Actually on their blog site, gorgafans ( that has since been removed) there was a picture of a house under construction and it was titled as ” the house Joe is building for Melissa” or something to that effect. Also if you go to Joe’s website for his business he is a landscaper etc.,not a builder or a developer.

    • AB
      December 9, 2012 at 6:35 PM | #281

      I thought Melissa had already found a house and “decided to move” [read: been forced to leave her home because of financial issues]. Maybe Bravo is buying or renting the Gorgas a home to live in during filming so they can keep up the facade of being people who “pay our [exorbitant] bills.”

      • AB
        December 9, 2012 at 6:36 PM | #282

        I should add that I don’t wish financial problems on anyone. I just think it’s terrible if someone is picking on another person for having problems while hiding problems of their own.

      • Anonymous
        December 9, 2012 at 9:59 PM | #283

        From another post of Fame’s: On May 12, 2012, Melissa told Reality Aired:
        “We gave Montville a try and want to move back to Franklin Lakes before the kids reach an age where they will all be in school. When we sell our house in Montville, we will move into a rental while Joe custom builds our next house. Joe is a builder and a businessman. He will sell pretty much any property for the right price and build again bigger and better.”

        Already has herself covered for a rental, everyone knows its probably because nobody in their right mind would give them a mortgage.

    • Dubbalicious
      December 9, 2012 at 6:36 PM | #284

      Jeannie, lol. I just came here to post the good news. Yes, the Gorga’s are shopping properties in Franklin Lakes. I guess when you have no money, the skies the limit!! It’s crazy how angry I get anytime she tells another story. Nothing, and I mean nothing rings true when it comes to Melissa. Who is she playing to at this point? I’d think the same people who tweet are the same people who read blogs!!
      Congrats to Lily M. What a wonderful way to start the holiday..you’ve just received the greatest gift of all! :)

  58. Secret admirer
    December 9, 2012 at 7:19 PM | #285

    NONE of the “bloggers” out there, even the dead “housewives expert” Lynn Hudson know WTF IS GOING ON. They no nothing of contracts, casting or anything else. Anyone can make a lucky guess or basically state the obvious and be correct. Bravo doesn’t comment b/c they do not care. Little side hobby blogs have no impact in their shows. Ratings do. And 90% of the viewers DO NOT even read this drivel. The wild and outrageous theories that come from these blogs only cease to amuse them. How silly you all are for blindly going along!

    • Anonymous
      December 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM | #286

      Clearly camp Gorga…. Just how “Blake” popped up on an article about mehohoho now secret admirer has her panties in a bunch over another hohoho post… If its all just drivel why so passionate? Obvious this post hit a nerve. If you really feel this strongly about your post being true let it roll off your shoulders, put on a smile and just say whatever. If none of its true then who cares? Nobody forces anyone else to read this. And if your stats are right and Bravo could care less, that should only help you move on with your life. You’d do better trying to support jacaloon on SH… She was crowned the S.H.W. for 2013 dontcha know ;)

    • December 9, 2012 at 9:55 PM | #287

      Wow, that’s deep. I’ve not been fooled but I love a fool who makes assumptions that I have been….tell me more.

      Seems you’re actually are more invested in this than a lot of us. Your secret is safe with me.

      • December 9, 2012 at 11:05 PM | #288

        PS I’m glad these blogs stop Bravo being amused by viewer theory. Kinda undid your rant by dropping a word there mi amigo.

    • iowagirl84
      December 9, 2012 at 11:28 PM | #289

      U are right that anyone can write a blog about anything. It is called freedom of speech. The difference is that with famewhorgas, all about truth stoopidhousewives, and faux reality is that a lot of the information that have gotten is found on the internet, in the form of public records, twitter, real estate transaction, and facebook (maybe not sure of this one). They take the time to gather all of the fact and present them in a well thoughtout blog with even showing the credit from where there got the information. That is the difference between a good blogger and a bad blogger.

    • December 10, 2012 at 12:04 AM | #290

      We know Bravo does not care. Look at Russell Armstrong, they portrayed him in a negative light and I feel had alot to do with his suicide confirmed by his sister also. They still put him on the screen to reap the rewards. I guess they had a plan there. Wonder what is the next plan, the elder Gorga passes on and they will want to film the funeral, no telling what arrangement they will have to blow that up, as they did the Christening. This has not come from no bloggers, this have been what I have seen for myself in living color. Crystal clear, the way I like my water.

    • December 10, 2012 at 12:55 AM | #291

      Dear Secret admirer,

      Thanks for telling us all how much we don’t know, how silly and gullible we all are and how much you don’t care about it by taking the time to write your comment! We love seeing new perspectives here so seeing how you are new, do you mind if I ask you a few questions and get to know you a little? No? Great!

      1. You seem a little pedantic about grammar/syntax/spelling/sentence structure/verbiage. Since you are an expert and we are mere dummies who just blink at our screens and believe everything we read, can you explain the following things to me?
      -”Chris Stark is a shut from Utah…”
      -”self sescribed”
      -”they no nothing…”
      -”outrageous theories…only cease to amuse them”

      2. “90% of the viewers DO NOT even read this drivel”. Can you please explain how you arrived at this figure? If there is quantifying proof of such a statistic, that’s even better, we’d love to see it. An aesthetically pleasing bar graph or pie chart would be ideal if you have one handy but if not, the plain old numbers would suffice. We just need to see the source of this data.

      3. What precisely about this blog gives you the impression that any of us believes what we are shown or told without questioning it? Have you even read any of the comments? And the bit about Bravo not commenting because they don’t care? What would you have them comment on? Each different HW blog that exists? There are a lot of them. Each blog post? That would be extremely labor intensive for Bravo’s PR team.
      Let’s make something clear: Bravo presents ONE side of a very multifaceted situation and wants its audience to swallow it whole. If everything went according to the way Bravo wanted it to, these blogs would not exist. Blogs like FW are a thorn in Bravo’s side because they tell the story that Bravo does not. There is a percentage of the audience that does exactly what Bravo wants – gobbles up the artifically processed story and believes it without questioning. Then there are those who do NOT, who are well aware that there is an organic side to the story separate from what Bravo presents, who ask questions about the things that don’t make sense and who seek answers about what really goes on and is not shown to us. That is the group of viewers you’ll find commenting on this blog.
      And THAT is why Bravo does not comment. Because to do so Bravo would be admitting that they are not giving us the whole story or even the real story – and let’s not forget this is “reality” TV.

      Anyway, I hope you write back soon!

      Sincerely,
      HLC :-)

      • December 10, 2012 at 1:33 AM | #292

        Totally saw a hair flip after that!

      • Anonymous
        December 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM | #293

        we need a like button

    • MomaJackie
      December 10, 2012 at 4:19 AM | #294

      Put the bottle down, take two asprins and get some sleep. Trust me, in the morning these blogs will still exist.

  59. Debbie J
    December 9, 2012 at 7:21 PM | #295

    Okay so I have never posted before however I love reading this sight. It sheds light to so many issues. I have always backed Teresa and will continue to however if next season turns out to be like the last two I am done and it’s not because Teresa will be picked on again it’s because of the kids. The only fault I have with Teresa is allowing this to continue on (contract or no contract) with even the smallest chance her children will be affected and I am sure they are especially Gia.

    Shame on Bravo, NBC, Andy and the other housewives (especially Kathy) for what I consider emotional abuse of a child, because if anyone does not think that this affects those children they have lost their minds. Shame on Joe Gorga and that thing he is married to for the same reason she keeps saying she has young children that can be hurt by all of this what about Teresa kids. My children would be beyond upset if they had to see or hear about things that were done on this show I would guess that Teresa children will eventually need therapy.

    Anyways again I enjoy reading this site and the comments. Good job Fame!!!

    • MomaJackie
      December 10, 2012 at 4:21 AM | #296

      Welcome and keep posting your thoughts.

  60. Jeannie5233
    December 9, 2012 at 7:29 PM | #297

    Secret admirer –

    Thank you for your input. I have taken everything you stated into consideration and filed it accordingly. My response to you – I wish you well and Happy Holidays!

    • December 10, 2012 at 1:00 AM | #298

      Jeannie, you are so much better than I am. I had to be a smarmy bitch when I saw that comment… :-/

    • JerseyGal
      December 10, 2012 at 3:40 PM | #299

      Jeannie– You are a class act. Thanks for keeping things civil. I was annoyed by Secret Admirer’s comment but your message helped prevent me from writing something mean. Happy Holidays to you and yours and to all of the Fame readers out there!

  61. Dubbalicious
    December 9, 2012 at 8:37 PM | #300

    I like you so much Jeannie! :)

    • Jeannie5233
      December 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM | #301

      HairLikeCher and Dubbalicious – On a day that is shaping up to be another very difficult one, your comments have helped to brighten my spirits!!! As I’ve said many times, this blog is a great diversion for me! Thank you so much for your kind words – I feel like I’ve been hugged! My mom is doing ok – just having to deal with changing her hospice agency – they are wonderful and have really good hearts, but it is just not a good personality match. There’s enough stress without being made to feel guilty all the time or worry about things that are unnecessary. But it’s all good – we can only try to continue to move forward and do our best! :) Thanks again!!

      • December 11, 2012 at 1:03 AM | #302

        (((Jeannie))) you and your mother have been in my thoughts and prayers since we last discussed this. Sending love <3

  62. Dubbalicious
    December 10, 2012 at 9:05 PM | #303

    Jeannie, I’m sorry to hear you’re going through challenging times!!
    You bring a tremendous amount of wisdom, humor and insight to this blog. I’m always happy to read your comments!! I’ve spent the last year reading blogs. I don’t want to say that blogs are my dirty little secret..(2 friends know. Lol) however, I’ve come to know is this…We are a group of strangers with a common interest..we know little to nothing of each other yet, as we grow more familiar we have formed a community. We get an idea of who a person is. We learn about poster’s values, morals and sense of humors. We have funny, snarky and nurturing souls here…and at times we get small glimpses into each others lives. It really shows me the importance of human contact. I don’t know you, or the others but, I do know that we are not alone here…And that people care. I think that’s pretty awesome :)
    P.S. Your comment to secret admirer made me giggle!!

    • December 10, 2012 at 9:35 PM | #304

      You’re both awesome!!!!!!!!!

    • December 11, 2012 at 1:05 AM | #305

      Dubba, I want to put a giant hug around your comment. Awesome, girl!

      • Dubbalicious
        December 11, 2012 at 8:31 AM | #306

        Hug accepted!! :)

    • Jeannie5233
      December 11, 2012 at 8:03 AM | #307

      ((Dubba)), ((HLC)), ((Sackem)) ((JerseyGal)) – A simple thank you doesn’t even begin to say how I am feeling right now. Yes, I am very emotional under the circumstances (having Christmas right around the corner doesn’t help either – I keep hoping for just one more Christmas – buying her card yesterday was unbearable as I knew it would be the last time) and I do have a great support system in place. But as I and others here who have shared their stories of very similar circumstances have said when we talked about this before, every single hand stretched out to offer comfort or the smallest gestures of kindness do not go unnoticed and means so much. A well of strength is needed to draw from on a daily basis and it doesn’t matter where or how that well gets replenished – as long as it’s there when it’s needed is what matters. My wishing well is overflowing from the good wishes I can feel you all sending my way right now and you all are appreciated more than you know!!

      Dubba – you have expressed exactly word for word how I feel about the community here at FW. I believe it was DD who said it was liike her “secret family”. I feel the same way and I am so grateful to Fame and everyone else. :)

  63. Phw
    December 20, 2012 at 2:46 AM | #308

    Ok Melissa is a whore…..I doubt anyone does know this by now, seems the only ones who are on team Melissa are her sisters under made up names, now that is no surprise either we all know the Marco sisters post with made up names, and joe gorga is such a sleeve bag that all he can get is Melissa whorga, they deserve each other.

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