RHONJ Season 5 Will Be All About Melissa Gorga’s Secrets; Danielle Staub Met With Andy Cohen and They Talked ‘Housewives’; John Karagiorgis Says Melissa Gorga Went ‘From Ho to Housewife’ (Updated 10/21/2012)
October 18, 2012 331 Comments
“Did you really think that you’d float onto this show with your praise Jesus, I am just so innocent and pure hearted Melissa that Bravo would keep you on the pedestal? Get real! They had to gain your trust, and they fed you right out of their hand. What Bravo will do to you will far outweigh what has happened to Teresa or Danielle. They didn’t see what was coming to them. However, you had a huge part in the character assassination of your SIL and her relationships on this show and had no second thought about how that would/could affect her emotionally or financially as long as you got your end result. I’m not implying Teresa is innocent in any of this drama either, but let’s see how you will fair once it’s your turn. The fact that you have tried to imply you are innocent in any of this massacre of a family is why I will stoop to the level and say ‘I can’t wait for you to get your comeuppance for Season 5′.” – Have2Say, October 14, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog
According to a former RHONJ post production supervisor: Bravo doesn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on just following these woman around with no plan — the season and the storyline has a basic outline from the first day. At the start of the season the production team sits down and gives a general overview of where they want the storyline for the show to go. ALL of the wives are in on this. They discuss popular story lines from the season before, story lines that need tying up, and also ways of threading in new story lines that look organic to the story.
The Giudices used reunion 4 to do what the other cast members had been doing to them all season: disclose dirt on their cast mates on camera to put a negative focus on them so that Bravo will build story lines around that. It’s a good strategy because now Bravo has plenty to work with in season 5, which will be all about Melissa’s secrets (and Jacqueline’s, if she returns).
“Why don’t you pay your bills… you have to borrow money every week from people.” – Joe Giudie to Joe Gorga during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special
“This is what happened. She dated my brother’s best friend. She never wanted anything to do with him [Teresa's brother]. She knew him back in Cancun days.” – Teresa Giudice during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special on how Joe and Melissa Gorga met in Cancun
Joe Giudice asks Melissa Gorga: “How did you really met Joe Gorga?” Joe Gorga, enraged, screams: “Shut the f–k up about my f–king wife!” during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special.
Here is what was talked about during reunion 4 and will be ‘loose ends’ that producers may want to tie up during season 5 taping:
- What really happened when the Gorgas met during Spring Break in Cancun in 2003 and who is Joe’s best friend that Melissa dated before she gave Joe the time of day.
- Melissa adamantly denies she was ever a a dancer or stripper, but footage not aired from the PFS proves otherwise (the PFS was filled with people from her past claiming she was a dancer, according to a former post production supervisor).
- What is the origin of the rumors about Melissa leaving Joe for a richer man?
- Are the Gorga’s borrowing money from people every week to pay their bills and are they selling their home because they’re in over their heads? Based on Kim Pirrella’s (Melissa’s sister) October 14th retweet (during the premiere of part 3 of the reunion special), it looks like Melissa and her sisters are worried about the Gorga’s financial situation being exposed: “Who cares about who met who where and who borrowed what from whom?”
- Was Joe Gorga really a Chippendale dancer and is his ego so huge that he seeks attention from both men and women — does he swing both ways?
- During the reunion special, Andy Cohen tried to redirect the conversation back to Melissa contacting Danielle, but since it didn’t really get addressed, will it be a loose end tied up in season 5? Andy asked Teresa if she regretted the way she treated Danielle, and Teresa said she did — Andy bringing up this topic could mean Bravo is in talks with Danielle to return for season 5. Danielle Staub says she had a meeting with Andy Cohen on October 17, 2012, and claims they talked “Housewives.” Staub says: “It was a general meeting. There was a lot of talk about everything — including Housewives.” According to TMZ: As for rumors that Staub ALREADY has a deal in place to return to the show, Staub says it’s bogus … nothing is official … yet. But if she does return, it’s gonna be great — ’cause it’s clear she still HATES her former castmates. When we asked if she’s spoken to any of the women, Staub shot back — ‘No, I have absolutely no interest in speaking to any of them.’ Awesome!!!” Danielle also said that if what she is reading on Twitter is true, she has “compassion and empathy” for Teresa Giudice.
UPDATE October 21, 2012, TMZ reported: “There are absolutely ZERO PLANS to bring Danielle Staub back to ‘Real Housewives’ … despite her meeting with Andy Cohen … this according to very well-placed sources. TMZ posted footage of Staub exiting a meeting with the Bravo honcho earlier this week … and she hinted that a possible return to the ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ could be in the works. But network sources tell TMZ … Staub left such a bad taste in the mouths of producers when she was fired from the show back in 2010, that there’s NO WAY they would even consider bringing her back. However, we’re told Andy and Danielle got along well during the meeting — fact is, Andy’s a good businessman so he’s keeping the door open for other possible projects down the line.”
Joe and Teresa brought these issues up on camera during the reunion so that the show’s six million viewers would get the stories that only the 100,000 or so viewers who follow the blogs and Twitter have been reading.
On October 18, 2012, Johnny Karagiorgis (@JohnnyTheGrk) gave an interview to Real Housewives Blog, where he disclosed more dirt on Melissa (be sure to read the entire exceptional interview — excerpts below):
When you mess with peoples livelihood, they tend to come out with guns blazing and are willing to spill everything that you are hiding. This is why John and Penny along with Kim D agreed to “set Melissa up” at the Fashion Show. Melissa used to be a frequent customer of Chateau Allure Salon when it was owned by a former “man friend” of hers. His name is Robert, and he made two purchases that still hang off her chest. She and her bridal party had their hair/make-up done there before she married Joe. Before Melissa was on the show she used to tell those stylists: “I can’t stand that bitch (Teresa). I am going to get on that show one way or another and destroy her.” Several of the stylists still work for Penny. Melissa has been bragging about Penny not being shown in the Finale Episodes saying: “I got that bitch edited out.” Melissa and producer Cat Rodriguez are very close, they tweet each other all the time.
Well, part of their story [of how they met] is true. They did initially meet in Cancun, that part is true. But, she was there with a different guy. Joe was very into her, she was not into him. It was not love at first site as they say. What really happened was Joe was let’s say, “a love sick puppy” about Melissa. She wouldn’t give him the time of day. He tracked her down at Lookers while she was working there. No, she didn’t work there for a week, 2 weeks, a month or a summer (as she has previously stated – not even she can get her story right). She worked their consecutively over a year. She was “dating” a friend of Joe’s. And only when she found out how big his house was and how much money he had did she ever want anything to do with him. So does that make her a Golddigger, Abso-fuckin’-lutely!
Angelo has no reason to lie [about Melissa being a dancer]. She was well known at Lookers. She was also well known for a girl who gave “extras” for her alleged “partying”, clothes, breasts, jewelry. You name it. She probably got from being on her knees. And Lookers was NEVER owned by a member of Melissa’s family. Not a cousin, uncle or any relative of hers. It is still open and owned by the original owner. [People that John knows very well.] Now let’s be clear; no one is saying stripping is bad or you’re a bad person if that’s how you chose to pay your bills. But why lie about it? Own it and move on.
[Melissa] did get a college diploma. After she got her GED. She was working at Lookers and going to New Jersey State College. Did she ever teach. No. She was a a student teacher/ teacher’s aid and after two weeks she told Joe she couldn’t handle it. So she never actually taught and never obtained a teaching certificate in any state. She went to work as his secretary. She basically went from Ho to Housewife.
Of course she is [going to get what's coming to her in the next season]. When people are coming forward and say “you’re gonna deny, this or that? You’re going to tell me I didn’t buy you those because you did this for me?” Really?!?! Melissa is going to get what is coming to her. She had her make-up artist attack my wife calling her a “coke-whore” and she looks like a “crack-ho” (For the record Penny has never touched a drug in her life.) Do you really want to go down that road with me? Do you really want to know who the coke whore was? Do you really want to know who it was that sucked guys off to accommodate their habits for free, free nights at shore houses, or for other free shit? I will only warn once, and our friends are all ready to come forward when I ask them to.
[Joe Gorga] deserves the truth and should have shut his mouth and listen to what his sister had to say. We know of many people who would go public and speak on camera with explicit info that would expose the truth. Enough is enough. They’ve bashed businesses, attacked on twitter with troll accounts, had their employees attack, and had others on twitter come after us. We’ve received threatening phone calls, and every time I invite them to step up or shut up. Still never confronted.
The “Robert” mentioned above is probably Robert Palumbo, who, according to a source, used to own La Chateau when Melissa was a patron, and now runs Robert Palumbo Hair Design in North Arlington, New Jersey.
“Melissa, you were nothing more then a handoff from Joe’s friends, wasn’t he third in line? Love at first sight my ass. Yea he saw you in Cancun while his and your friends had ‘fun’ from the very first day, but you wanted nothing to do with him until he caught up with you at Lookers with one of his friends you were actually going out with. Another joke. F*cking hand me down. Then you found out he had money and you went on the prawl. Shall I continue? Nah, I’ll save it for when Penny gets on the show and one at a time we’ll be getting our hair done by Penny and Robert and exposing everything. Oh, you remember Robert don’t you? Lol, Season 5 will be interesting.” – ‘Melissa’s Former Friend’, March 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH
John Karagiorgis tweeted this at 12:24 PM on October 18, 2012:
“I didn’t spill anything but a few beans that were already out there. @PDKhair has the ‘Untold Story’. Trust me.”
Melissa’s nemesis Penny Drossos (@PDKhair) is holding back on the dirt she has on Melissa so that if will air on the show and be blasted to all six million viewers.
Melissa took a dig at Penny (without naming her) in her final blog for season 4 and her sister Kim Pirrella did as well:
“As you can see, there are many desperate people on Twitter begging to be on the show. None of them get cast. It’s not Bravo’s style. The more you want it, the less likely you are to get it.” – Melissa Gorga, October 16, 2012, Bravo Blog
“Its quite comical that @johnnythegrk banked on being cast on rhwnj even charging a new set of teeth for @pdkhair and BRAVO PASSED!! LMFAO” – Retweeded by Kim Pirrella, October 14, 2012 (during the premiere of part 3 of the reunion special), Twitter
“Penny has a long history with Melissa, and knew Melissa long before her housewife days. In fact, when Melissa was casted for RHONJ, she actually called Penny [who she was not on good terms with her at the time] to boast” [anonymous e-mail published at StoopidHousewives.com].
A Twitter follower alerted Penny to Melissa’s comment in her Bravo blog:
@melissagorga threw a dig at @PDKhair and her hubby in her new blog. Penny plz call this bitch out
7:00 AM – 17 Oct 12
Ko Ko @Keena620
@PDKhair she said there are many desperate ppl on Twitter begging to be on the show. Hmmm made me think of u. I wish bravo would cast u.
7:40 AM – 17 Oct 12
Here are Penny’s responses:
Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga she did wt! Really Mel u want to go there! How did u meet Joe ? Bitch
7:32 AM – 17 Oct 12
Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga when you came back didn’t you say he wasn’t your type! Go bitch u want to play lets play how’s Fred Caruso bitch
7:33AM – 17 Oct 12
Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga tell everyone how you lied to him about ur first day you “taught” n you cried to him that it was too stressful
7:35AM – 17 Oct 12
Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga joe felt bad for you n told u to quit n you worked for him does Joe know exactly who he married? I doubt he does
7:38AM – 17 Oct 12
Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 I’m not desperate she’s scared big difference.cause if I come on I don’t alone..
7:46 AM – 17 Oct 12
Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 YES the producers did come to my house in aug to interview me..
7:48 AM – 17 Oct 12
Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 I try I’m far form perfect n I know it .. I’m human but I don’t but up a front I am who I am .Thank u honey for the heads up 2day
7:52 AM – 17 Oct 12
In December 2003, the Fred Caruso that Penny referred to in the tweet above was named as a defendant in a law suit for third degree aggravated assault, causing “significant bodily injury under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life in a reckless manner” at a club called Club XS in Seaside Heights, NJ. And in October 2006, Fred Caruso from Clifton New Jersey was sentenced for conspiracy to distribute Ecstasy, retaliate against a witness and commit kidnapping:
“According to testimony presented at trial, on February 24, 2002, Van Cleve Ashley, age 38, of New Jersey, was sentenced to 34 years on February 8, 2007 for conspiring with Fred Caruso and Ramaine York to shoot to death Thomas D. Dixon, Jr. to prevent Dixon from appearing as a witness in the federal case of U.S. v. Fred Caruso and to retaliate against Dixon for providing law enforcement officers with information about Caruso’s criminal activities. Caruso provided Ashley with a semi-automatic pistol, a photograph of Dixon and directions to Dixon’s house. Caruso paid Ashley $10,000. Ashley then solicited the help of York, providing him with the gun and directions to Dixon’s house. York traveled from New Jersey to Maryland and shot Dixon multiple times. Dixon was flown to shock trauma where he remained hospitalized for months, but survived the attack. Both Caruso and York had previously pled guilty to witness retaliation and testified at trial against Ashley. Judge Garbis sentenced Caruso to 163 months. York was sentenced in federal court in New Jersey to 10 years. United States Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein praised the Drug Enforcement Administration, and the Baltimore County Police Department for their investigative work.”
‘The Source’ on April 9, 2012 said at AllAboutTRH:
Are you f*cking kidding me Melissa? Does this advice [include] meeting your ex at Sushi Lounge 2 years ago? Or your other ex’s in Bayonne or Lyndhurst? Dying for explanation! But we’ll get that when your skank ass is exposed by Penny & Johnny and don’t you worry, we’re all lining up. Tommy, Vinny, Mike C, Freddy C, and that’s just naming a few.
JanShe on May 30, 2012 said at AllAboutTRH:
Those photos are going to be coming out soon, you know, the ones of her with her ex, while she was married to Joe Gorga. The photos could be with one of the boys from Bayonne, another ex in Lyndhurst, Tommy, Butch/Bulldog, Brian, Ronald aka Gus, MikeC, Freddy, Vinny, or how about “group sex pics” during spring break, OR how about someone that hasn’t been named yet, haha. There is plenty more that hasn’t been put out there yet. Mel has nothing to worry about right………..LOL.
SharShar68 on 2012/10/15 said at Fame-Whorgas:
Johnny the Greek is not going to let the figurative “cat out of the bag” on Twitter because that’s their ticket onto the show. If Bravo wants to vindicate Teresa, they should cast Penny and let her expose the stripper/thief. It’s only fair AND Melissa isn’t generating big bucks for Bravo with her failed music career (unlike Teresa and her various ventures).
The fact that Joe Gorga-Marco (his new name) said that he didn’t feel upset or as he put it, “didn’t feel anything” during the televised barrage of insults spewed at Teresa by Juicy speaks volumes about his character. How could he not feel a thing? That’s your blood, fool. Your sister!! His lack of empathy proves he’s a sleazy sociopath that is so blinded by love for Stripper/Thief that he can’t think straight. Perhaps THAT’S WHY your relationship with your parents is strained.
Juicy Joe gets more attractive by the minute, and I’m not kidding. Out of all the “mo-mo’s” as he so eloquently put it, he was the only one that made any sense. Say what you will about him, I believe he really loves Teresa and they’ll stay together forever.
Jacqueline is a mess. I feel bad for Chris. I bet he’s regretting picking Wacky Jackie over his fiancee – who by the way was really good friends with Dina (they worked together at the nail salon). Jacqueline needs help – stat! She’s so unhinged and so obviously mentally unstable. She’s not fit to care for a special needs child – if in fact, Nicholas is “autistic”. Like a commentator above me stated earlier, I believe Nicholas is healthy but the Manzo/Laurita clans are setting us up to believe that “BLK” cured him. Keep in mind folks, Chris Laurita is $55M in the hole. It’s not that far fetched but definitely disgusting.
hoolie on 2012/10/15 said at Fame-Whorgas:
Agree that right now, JTG is holding back, and using the information he claims as his last trump card to get Penny on the show. I fear though, that Bravo is playing him “like a fiddle” on this though. The one common thread I have read on the variety of blogs is the “dark content” of season 3/4. If they were to bring JTG/Penny on the show to ‘out’ melissa, this would just be a continuation of the ‘dark’ theme. Yes, I think many initially would feel ‘justice’ for Teresa if this happened, but remember – it always seems to be “Teresa’s fault” and this scenario would do nothing to bring the family relationship back to better standing.
Personally, myself, I would love to see Meho and Slojo outed. I guess we will just have to wait and see. Alot depends on casting for season 5. I understand that they should be announcing this soon (not sure when, only that it would happen ‘after’ the reunion).