Melissa Gorga Screams at Teresa Giudice (Who Never Claimed to be a Victim): ‘You Don’t Get to Play Victim Here! I’m the Victim! Get It Straight!’

“Melissa is a really good actress. I was on the show two years before she came on. She came on the show behind my back. I think she’s very calculating, very contrived, and knows what she’s doing. I know from knowing her eight years now that what you see on this show is not the real Melissa. Eventually everyone’s true colors come out. One day maybe eventually maybe you guys will see that. She plays the victim role really well.” – Teresa Giudice’s response when asked by RumorFix’s correspondent the Real Mr. Housewife, ‘What’s the biggest misconception about Melissa?’

I am the victim

“Hello! She attends every single party that’s out there. That’s not me. I have a family, I have four daughters, I hardly go to parties because I have four daughters to take care of. I’m not out there half as much as she is out there.” – Teresa Giudice’s response to RumorFix’s correspondent the Real Mr. Housewife, when asked if she thinks Melissa wants to be a celebrity.

Reunion 4 Video: Caroline Manzo tells Teresa Giudice that she will be alone due to her attitude and what she’s already done; Melissa accuses Teresa of bashing her husband and her marriage all season long:

“Teresa said I don’t act like a Gorga, but the truth is I’m not a Gorga! I’m a Marco and very proud of it!” – Melissa Gorga, July 25, 2011, ‘A Perfect Christmas’

Melissa is Not a Victim

Whose family has been destroyed? Whose relationships have been destroyed? Whose marriage did Bravo hold up for public scrutiny? The answer to all these questions is Teresa.

With Andy Cohen and a biased executive producer (Cat Rodriguez) paving the way, the cast made sure to cast suspicion on Joe Giudice’s marital fidelity throughout season 4, plus Bravo aired the mystery phone call in Napa, which was an innocent call (or series of calls spliced together) made to look like Joe was cheating on Teresa.

“The call was 100% innocent. He called Teresa a c*** because he didn’t want to be there filming, and was taking it out on her. He had a legal mess at home he needed to deal with but was contractually obligated to be there.” – RHONJ Production Supervisor Reveals Details About Dina Manzo, the Gorgas, the Christening, Editing, and the Mystery Phone Call

Melissa is not the victim. Her marriage has not suffered — she still has total control over her husband (even telling him what to say… “Say ‘shame on you’ to your sister; just do it!’”). During season 4, Melissa and her husband setup Teresa to support their storyline that “Teresa is trying to destroy our marriage”:

  1. Joe and Melissa kicked off season 4 by bringing up on camera a rumor about Melissa leaving Joe for a richer man, which Teresa told her brother months earlier in a private conversation between siblings off camera (in response to his allegations that Teresa’s husband was cheating on her). The scene between Melissa and Joe was staged and faked: both of them pretended that Joe was telling Melissa this story for the first time — it was them not Teresa who blast that rumor to the world.
  2. With Bravo’s and Jacqueline’s help, Melissa convinced her husband that Teresa set her up to expose her stripper past, which resulted in Joe texting his sister, “Your dead to me”, and not speaking to her since September 27, 2011 — over a year ago and still counting. [Joe knew Melissa danced in the past -- he used to visit her at Lookers -- he and Melissa faked the phone call after she forced Teresa to tell her at the Posche Fashion Show what Angelo said about her; Joe lied during the fake call and said, "You never danced; you won't even dance for me."]

There have been no holiday gatherings or birthday parties for the senior Gorgas with all their grandchildren and their only two children present. Joe and Melissa didn’t even spend the day with Joe’s father on his birthday like the Giudices did. Joe and Melissa didn’t send birthday wishes or attend birthday parties thrown for the Giudice children (except for Melissa’s brief appearance at Gia’s and Milania’s joint birthday party in January 2012, where afterward, as a ‘secret source’, she bashed Teresa and Gia in a tabloid). Joe and Melissa usually don’t throw birthday parties for their own children, but when they do, they don’t invite the Giudices. The senior Gorga’s grandchildren will not grow up together, sharing family trips, birthdays or holidays.

Melissa’s relationships with her side of the family are in tact. Melissa and her children spend plenty of time with her side of the family (Melissa’s sister Lysa takes care of their children as she and Joe travel to clubs and other appearances), and they get to share holidays and other celebrations with them too.

To top it off, Melissa has gained Teresa’s friends and Teresa’s cousins as friends too (at least for the cameras). The only thing destroyed for Melissa is her relationship with her in-laws, but that is entirely her fault because she’s the one who stalked Bravo producers until they finally cast her (with Danielle’s help), and then, from the first day of taping, dragged the Giudices through the mud in her quest for fame.

Screaming ‘victim’ from the rooftops when she was the perpetrator should have backfired, but she had an executive producer in her pocket and now has Us Weekly as her mouthpiece for spreading lies and innuendo.

“Sweet, innocent, Melissa, you poor victim. I think you were disgusting and vindictive when you contacted Danielle. I can’t stand people like you. I think we need a magazine cover with Danielle on the front and on the inside all the e-mails you sent her. Because we don’t know for sure if Teresa set you up, but we know you contacted Danielle and fed her information about Teresa and her family. Who does that? Who?????? How about Bravo showing your audition tape. I have read that you said you wanted to be on the show so you could take Teresa down. I don’t buy this story you’re trying to sell. I’m not going to buy any of your God-awful music, and I’m not buying any magazine with your plastic face on it. I think Bravo is going to lose a lot of viewers if they aren’t careful. This season has pissed a lot of people off!” – bug, September 21, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“Melissa, you are no victim. You are the aggressor. Stop portraying yourself as being so innocent. Quit while you are ahead. Stop bashing your SIL in public, because the public don’t like what you are doing and as a result, the public is trying to destroy you, not Teresa.” – Fuzziesgirl4, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“You are so boring with out having Teresa to talk about. You needed her to make you relevant. You love the attention. I like the show better when you weren’t there. You wanted to get on the show for years and was mad at Teresa because she wouldn’t include you in the filming. You hijacked a good show and created drama to make yourself a star. I hope you are proud.” – KatDelro, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“You can’t sing, you are a J-Lo wanna be, and you are a hypocrite! How much do you get paid for your magazines? And how much of it is actually from your mouth and how much of it is from whatever the magazines wanted to put in there? You are a MASTER MANIPULATOR and you LOVE that YOU tore Joe away from his family……I loved you and your new beasties in your red devil dresses on the front of the magazine………pathetic!” – N.hunter1, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“It was mentioned on Entertainment Tonight that Teresa is the highest paid ‘housewife’ on the New Jersey show of Real Housewives. Hmmmmm….motive enough for all the jealousy?? I think the answer to that question is a very LOUD yes!! There you go…all of you anti Teresa fans who have repeatedly asked why the other castmates are jealous of Teresa. It’s the status and paycheck….Teresa is the star…and that’s a huge bitter pill for the others to swallow.” – murphy1, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“Nothing about Melissa is real. From her victim ‘character’ on the show to her auto-tuned singing.” – Viewer.n.miami, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“Who is ‘the victim’ in all of this? Melissa was in a dysfunctional family situation and decided she was better than Teresa and deserved a ‘special’ spot on a television show. After many, many attempts, she and her disgusting husband ‘promised’ to bring Teresa down so she could show the world just how talented and evil he truly is. If she were the ‘real deal’, Melissa Gorga would have been chosen in the first place. Without Teresa to trash, what storyline is left for her? Her ‘rockstar’ career? Oh, she can always go back to being a school teacher……if she can remember what school she ‘taught’ at or what college she graduated from. Yep, she’s the real deal.” – bittersweet4, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“Why no new blog yet? Because people cannot sympathize with you anymore after the first reunion. I don’t blame Teresa for acting the way she does. Who wouldn’t lash out being attacked all the time. She has it coming from everywhere. You and Kathy just used this show to further your careers. Get off Teresa’s coat tails already.” – justmee, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

“Poor little Melissa feels like she is the victim of a set up, what a Joke! LOL. Honey you set yourself up at the fashion show and gave Bravo a big dramatic finale. Are you happy now? Hysterical how you were chomping at the bit to start a fight with Teresa during part 1 of the reunion. Gee, didn’t you get enough punches and kicks in during the whole show?! Wiping away that fake tear while Jac and Caro were sobbing over Nicholas was just priceless — have you been taking acting lessons too?! We know what you really are and you are not fooling anyone! LOL.” – Annie003, October 6, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

Melissa’s Quotes from Her Bravo Blogs to Support Her Storyline That “Teresa Is Trying to Destroy My Marriage”

Today is my 8-year wedding anniversary to the love of my life. I’m very proud of the family we created together and the bond we have. Marriage is never easy; you constantly have to work on it. I put my all into my marriage and show Joe respect — I respect him as a father and as a husband more than words can say. We are so blessed and I am grateful. He’s truly the love of my life! I’m not going to get into the phone call we saw Joe have. I didn’t like it when Teresa made accusations about my marriage, so I’m not going to do it to hers. They have four daughters that need to be protected from this, so I will leave it to Joe and Teresa to explain it. How they choose to live within their marriage has nothing to do with any of us. I was very upset when I watched the episode, and I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. We may have our differences, but I would never want this to happen to her. – August 20, 2012 [six days later, on August 26, 2012, she gave an interview to The Huffington Post, where she talked about Teresa’s marriage]

I hope she is going to start having a more positive attitude about my marriage, my music, and my kids, and just stop overanalyzing me and everything I do. It must be draining for her to worry about me all day and worry about how we are living our life. – July 09, 2012

When Teresa asked me about Danielle, I told her the truth. I was wrong, so I apologized and hopefully we have moved past this. She is the one constantly saying to forget about the past and move on. You saw the solstice party episode, right? I forgave and moved on, because she is family. I know I’m never going to get her to totally change the way she treats me, but as long as she backs off my marriage, we can do this. – June 25, 2012

I’ve had multiple chances to talk about her personal issues, the bankruptcy, the marriage rumors, etc. and I don’t. How can she not see that? I’m sorry Teresa has such an issue with me, but it’s time she moves on and gets over it like she said she has. – June 12, 2012

What you will see if you pay attention is that Teresa is trying to take me down every chance she gets. She is attacking my character, my marriage, my looks. What she is claiming is happening to her is quite the opposite. There goes that projection again. Thankfully most of you can see that, and all we can do is pray for her and hope she opens her eyes and takes a look at what’s really important. – June 12, 2012

First, where did these rumors about my marriage with Joe start? That’s the million dollar question. When Teresa was hearing these so-called rumors the show had just started airing and I hadn’t even had a performance yet. – May 08, 2012

I honestly can’t help but feel that she is projecting the issues in her life onto mine. After watching this episode, I think it’s extremely obvious what my sister-in-law is trying to do. The question is why would she do it? Does she think that if my marriage goes badly hers will get better? Does she think that if she puts the negative attention on me then it will not be on her? I’m not sure, but one thing I do know is that it is sad and it’s a shame. I try to be pretty easy in a lot of my blogs and tip toe around Teresa, but this time she is playing with fire. I am woman who loves my husband more than anything in this world. I will bend over backwards for him and my children. She knows that and I think at times she wishes she had more on me. How about just being happy that your brother is happy? You can throw dirt in my face a couple times and I will take it, but DON’T, mess with my family, DON’T mess with my children’s lives, and DON’T mess with my marriage. That is where I will NEVER back down. – May 08, 2012

To this day, Teresa is still trying to justify the rumors and still blames this whole situation on her brother Joey for not keeping their conversation private, but she honestly doesn’t understand that you don’t say something like that to a man about his wife and expect him to just live with it and keep it to himself. A marriage is a partnership and my husband and I tell each other everything, just like Teresa tells her husband everything. How does this blood is thicker than water notion apply to a husband and wife? We have three beautiful children together and are a family. It’s called respect, and I’m not sure Teresa ever will understand that she doesn’t have to like me, but she has to respect my marriage to her brother and keep her “rumors” to herself. – May 08, 2012

Teresa obviously hasn’t learned her lesson because in last week’s blog she continues to talk about the rumors she hears about my marriage. Nothing has changed with her, she is just better at getting others to do and say what she can’t so she looks innocent. That might answer your question as to why we still aren’t speaking. She won’t let up and I don’t know how she can look at herself in the mirror at this point. This is her baby brother’s marriage. All I can do is pray for her, and when she is ready to let up, I will talk to her about it then without an audience.  – May 08, 2012

I am not even sure why she is apologizing publicly for not supporting my music, when that was NEVER an issue. The issue is what she says about my marriage and my loyalty to my husband. I have been clear about that, and you will see it addressed in next week’s episode. – April 30, 2012

We had plans to go down the shore and meet up with Teresa and Kathy on the beach with the kids. Once again I decided I was going to let it go. It doesn’t affect our marriage because it has no truth so I wasn’t going to ruin this for my kids or Joe, because we were all supposed to have a nice weekend together. I really am trying to forget about it. Was it easy? Of course not, but I try like hell to keep it from bothering me. – April 23, 2012

Melissa, a Victim, I Think Not; She Would Be Correctly Referred to as a ‘User’
By isolde, Guest Blogger
October 7, 2012

Melissa yells at Teresa in part 2 of the Season 4 Reunion Special, that she does not get to sit there and act like she is a victim; that it is her, Melissa, who is the victim, and that Teresa should get it straight!

Teresa, even though ganged up on at the Season 3 reunion show, all during Season 4, and now again at the Season 4 reunion, has never claimed to be a victim. Quite the opposite, in fact: Teresa tells the other women, “to bring it on bitches”. So, while Teresa might realize she is being ganged up on, and is hurt by it, she takes it in stride, puts on a strong face, doesn’t resort to crying, but stands her ground. She has never acted like, nor claimed to be, a victim.

Along comes Melissa, who claims to be the victim in part 2 of the Season 4 reunion show. She is basing this on the fact that she was set up at the Posche Fashion Show to be outed as a dancer. Meantime, she is still denying that she ever was a dancer at the Lookers Gentlemen’s Club, but was a bartender. If you were never a dancer, then you cannot be set up to be outed as a dancer. Melissa claims that Teresa is the one who set her up, even though the footage clearly shows that Teresa was caught by surprise at the salon, when Angelo Vrohidis started talking about knowing Melissa. It is clearly Kim D who asks all the questions about Melissa, and her dancing career, while an upset Teresa left the room because she did not want to hear Kim D or Angelo speak about her family.

The claim that this was a set up comes from Jacqueline, who says that she was being texted by a friend that Melissa was being set up by Angelo, and that Teresa was aware of, and responsible for the set up. She claims that Angelo said he was going to embarrass Melissa by outing her as a former employee of his at the Lookers club. However, when Angelo approached the table, he only asked Melissa if she remembered him, and that it was nice to see her, and talked about the fashion show. Even though Teresa had met him earlier that day, she was mortified when he approached the table, and did not want to make a scene, because she did not want anything revealed about Melissa at the fashion show. Melissa and Teresa did discuss Angelo and what he was claiming, in the bathroom, at Melissa’s insistence for Teresa “to talk”. Teresa stated that she did not believe what he was saying, and that the two of them should confront Angelo, and tell him to shut up. Melissa did not want to, but Teresa did go looking for him, but he had already left. By this time, all the women were texting one another and knew what was going on, but didn’t say anything to Teresa. Jacqueline and Caroline showed Melissa the texts, and Jacqueline told Melissa that it was Teresa who set her up. This caused an argument with all the women involved, and Joe Gorga and his sister, Teresa. They have not spoken in a year.

Melissa calls herself a victim, but I fail to see it. Even though viewers realize that she is lying about her past, irreparable damage has not been done to her reputation. It is Teresa’s reputation that has been tarnished from a year ago, because Jacqueline leaked information last September — a whole year before the footage was aired. Teresa could not properly defend herself against the accusations because of the confidentiality agreements regarding upcoming shows. Jacqueline breached the confidentiality, causing Teresa to be trashed and called names on Twitter, an entire year before the episodes were aired. Since, the viewers did not see the show, and went only by what Jacqueline, Melissa and others were putting out there, it was assumed that they were telling the truth. Teresa honored her contract with Bravo, and did not reveal any story lines to the show.

So, it has been a poor Melissa act for a year, with the cast slamming Teresa in various media outlets, presenting her as a villain out to get her sister-in-law. When, in fact, we now see that it was not Teresa who set up Melissa. In fact, Teresa was set up to take the fall.

All the players, Angelo Vrohidis, Kim D., Johnny and Penny Karagiorgis, have all denied that Teresa had any involvement but that hasn’t stopped the cast from blaming her. We also now know that the producers were involved in the set up, and tried to make Teresa the villain, and have since been fired by Bravo.

Editing was skewed to portray the Giudices in a bad light. Scenes were shown out of sequence to portray a certain story, which was not the “real truth”. It has been proven that the Manzos and the Gorgas had close ties to the producers.

This was not a reality show that was unscripted, but was a show scripted to the detriment of the Giudices with the full participation of the Manzos, Lauritas, Wakiles and Gorgas, with the help from biased producers who apparently hate the Giudices. The only one that was not aware of what was going on was Teresa and her family — they were filming a reality show and portraying their real lives; they were not acting for the cameras like Melissa in almost every scene. Now we have Jacqueline and Melissa conjuring up lies and using each other to back them up.

We never heard Teresa speak ill of her family during the first two seasons. It has been reported that Melissa and Joe Gorga and the Wakiles were invited to Teresa’s parties during Seasons 1 and 2 of the RHONJ. Bravo edited them out of the footage, and they were not shown on the show. Rumors were plentiful that the Gorgas repeatedly approached the producers to put them on the show, but Bravo refused (it was also said that they made fun of the Gorgas and their behavior).

Meanwhile, Teresa was becoming the most popular and successful housewife on the show. We now know that Melissa and Danielle Staub were in contact with one another during Season 2, and Melissa was feeding information and lies to Danielle. The Gorgas wanted to film with Danielle in order to be featured on the show and to “expose” Teresa. Danielle Staub refused, because she was worried that she was being set up. However, Danielle did confront Teresa with lies provided by Melissa, with the most prominent one being that Teresa did not acknowledge the birth of her son, Joey. When Danielle asked Teresa about that on the Season 2 reunion, Teresa’s reaction was over the top, and we all know what happened in that confrontation. Teresa was adamant about Danielle, “not bringing up her family”, and she wanted to know who Danielle had been talking to. We now know that it was Melissa and Joe Gorga, and that it was a lie, that Teresa did in fact, acknowledge her nephew. The Gorgas appealed to the Bravo executives once again, and told them that they would bring the drama, and take Teresa “down”. Bravo interviewed and cast the Gorgas and the Wakiles — it was Andy Cohen who informed Teresa, once the deal was done.

From episode 1 of season 3 of the RHONJ, the Gorgas did bring the drama, by starting an argument with Teresa Giudice, her brother calling her “garbage”, and telling her to walk away. All of this was egged on by Melissa and her family. Teresa’s husband, Joe, defending his wife, entered into the argument, and an all out brawl ensued. A baby’s christening ruined, a family more divided, and why? Jealousy over popularity, and the need to come out swinging, hoping to take the spotlight away from Teresa.

Was Melissa a victim in that situation? Absolutely not: she got what she wanted. She got onto the show her sister-in-law had been on for two seasons, and the bashing of Teresa started out of the gate. We watched, for all of season 3, the Gorgas and the Wakiles talk badly about the Giudices, name call, blame Teresa for everything, and try to act like they just wanted the family and Teresa back the way it used to be. We saw the Gorga and Giudice children loving being together, but it wasn’t happening because of the fights or the insults. We saw Melissa Gorga launching her “singing career” and Kathy Wakile showing off her talent for baking.

Were they victims when they got the opportunity to display their alleged talents, or were they afforded this opportunity because they came onto a show that Teresa had helped to make popular?

Everything became a competition because of their jealousy of Teresa’s success. The Gorgas and the Wakiles did not care if they aired the family’s dirty laundry on national television. Until season 3, Teresa tried to keep family matters private, and her own problems private. It was the Gorgas and the Wakiles who were willing to discuss Teresa’s personal problems in order to make Teresa look bad.

Teresa was clearly strained and tense during season 3, due to the family tension; however, we saw her make many attempts to reconcile with her brother and fix their relationship. Teresa was caught between her husband and her brother, because after the insults and brawl at the christening, Teresa said that her husband “was done”. He was tired of Teresa being insulted, bashed and blamed.

Was Melissa a victim then, when she had her husband wrapped around her finger, doing and saying anything and everything to Teresa?

Between seasons 3 and 4 of the show, the Gorgas and Wakiles put on a good act with the other cast members. By season 4, it was clear that the Manzos and Lauritas had made a conscious decision to destroy the credibility and reputation of the Giudices. Since there was discord between the Giudices and the Gorgas, the Manzos and Lauritas used this to their advantage. It became a four-on-one situation. Everyone began to attack the Giudices, and bring up their legal and financial issues on the show, and add their negative commentary.

To date, we really don’t know why the Manzos and the Lauritas are angry with Teresa. They claimed it was comments in her cookbook, comments in magazines, her not confiding her personal business to them, not being a good friend, and interfering in their family relationships. Most of those excuses have either been denied, proven untrue, or said not to be the real reason for turning on the Giudices.

However, the Manzos/Lauritas and the Gorga/Wakiles used this mutual envy of Teresa’s success, and their dislike, to their advantage to trash the Giudices on television, in interviews and on social media. It was as if the cast had a meeting and said this is the agenda, and this is the script and we are all sticking to it (or sticking it to the Giudices).

Meantime, if Teresa apologized, she was not sincere, she was stepping on family for fame, etc. Teresa could not catch a break from anyone. Even the producers of the show befriended everyone in the cast except for the Giudices, and the editing became skewed to show Teresa and her husband negatively.

Again, who was a victim? Melissa? She was getting exactly what she wanted: she had Teresa’s friends on her side, she had the producers on her side, and she was driving a deeper wedge between Teresa and everyone around her. Melissa now has it made because Caroline has completely turned on Teresa — Teresa is garbage, she is a disgrace, she is a liar, she is only an acquaintance now, they were never friends.

As Teresa said, the Manzos and Lauritas “had jumped ship”, and were now friends with the Gorgas and the Wakiles. Teresa was once again a victim of Melissa’s lie and conniving.

The end of season 4 is now upon us, and there are rumors of a set up to be played out at the Posche Fashion Show. Jacqueline is receiving texts (although she has now revealed that she was speaking to and recording Kim D for a week prior to the fashion show), stating that Teresa is setting up Melissa to expose her past as a “dancer”.

Melissa was never accused of being a dancer on camera at the fashion show. Conversations that took place regarding Melissa being a dancer took place in a salon, prior to the fashion show, with Teresa walking away. Teresa told Angelo that she did not want him to speak of her family, and did not know he would be attending the fashion show.

Melissa was the victim of nothing. Jacqueline was the one who cried set up, and Melissa made the issue a bigger deal by calling her husband to come to the show. Most people would not have been aware of what was going on, if not for the actions of the cast, except for Teresa. Clearly, we now know that the producers of the show were texting, intervened, and edited the fashion show footage to make it look damaging to Teresa.

In my opinion, and Teresa now sees this, she was the one who was set up by family and former friends to take the fall for someone trying to set up Melissa. The cast has run with this story for a year, and although Teresa has denied (others have also verified) involvement, she has been vilified by the cast and the media.

It is a joke that Melissa claims to be a victim. She has victimized Teresa since Teresa got on the RHONJ show. In 2008, she was blogging negative comments about Teresa and her marriage. In season 2, Melissa went to Danielle Staub and fed her lies so that she could attack Teresa with this information. Melissa came onto RHONJ in season 3, a show that she was dying to get on, even though there was already family tension (according to Melissa, she hated Teresa). You don’t go on a show with someone you profess to hate, unless you have ulterior motives.

We have seen those motives play out on television for two seasons. We, the viewers, have been disgusted at all the hatefulness, deceit and back stabbing that has taken place on this show. There is nothing entertaining about a family being torn apart, and grown women and men displaying such immature and hateful behavior.

Teresa, to her credit, does not say she is a victim and has not acted like a victim — but she has been victimized by the envy and greed of her former friends and her family. Melissa, in particular, has used Teresa’s success to get onto the show, and then defame the very woman whose coattails she is riding. Melissa has used this set up of Teresa to keep her name relevant and to try to garner sympathy for herself. All of her interviews, and now magazine covers and articles, are all about bashing Teresa Giudice.

Melissa, a victim, I think not. She would be correctly referred to as a “user”. Melissa has used Teresa, her husband’s family, the producers and the show to gain her so called “celebrity” status. When Kim D invited her to the Posche Fashion Show in 2011, Melissa said, “I must be the biggest celebrity she knows now”. That said it all.

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293 Responses to Melissa Gorga Screams at Teresa Giudice (Who Never Claimed to be a Victim): ‘You Don’t Get to Play Victim Here! I’m the Victim! Get It Straight!’

  1. Reunion part 2 is coming on in 20. I’m worried for Teresa!!! These women are vicious! I hope she’s not made out to look any worse :/

    • Squeezy says:

      Did anyone catch on the reunion part 2 Melissa claims she wasn’t talking to Danielle when Joey was born, when Danielle claimed Teresa didn’t go see her nephew yet she said earlier in the season at Melissa’s party to Teresa the reason she was talking to Danielle was because her pregnancy hormones made her do it.

      • Brooklyn says:

        Yes!!!!! I heard that and I was confused about that!!! If Melissa wasn’t talking to Danielle then, then how did Danielle know about baby Joey being born? So I guess Melissa lied again?

      • gramalot says:

        Yes, Mewitcha has not kept accurate records of her lying comments and she has repeatedly shown herself to be a HUGE LIAR. Too bad more of her followers aren’t keeping track. If they did, there would be enough of her “fans” jumping ship to sink her lying ass.

  2. D. Sue says:

    Melissa is really saying don’t steal my story line , I am the victim so I can go on talk shows and
    make my rounds .
    she is a FAME WhORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Fame says:

    Hey readers, the WWHL polls are rigged. Please don’t bother watching WWHL … you’ll just get more annoyed and will give Andy higher ratings.

    • ….and apparently Wendy Williams is on tonight.

    • HairLikeCher says:

      Yeah, I shut it off when I saw he had WW on. I don’t like her anyway, she annoys me with her limited vocabulary and her unpreparedness with her own guests. Then when she outed herself as a Teresa hater I secretly wished she would suffocate by motorboating herself in her massive cleavage.

      • Alicia says:

        You are hilarious!!! I can’t believe when she said teresa should leave reality tv…she was on first why should she have to leave?

    • Brynn says:

      Done after tonight. Annoyance level is high…..

    • You’re 100% right, I never bother anymore or watch any bravo live- always after the fact, and give up on posting on the blogs, my posts never make it. Sick of Bravo

    • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

      Fame. Oh I wish I’d read this last night to remind me not to …. I only caught a few minutes but it was enough for me to tweet Which I NEVER do. But Wendy actually cited Jacqueline as “fearless” in her “defense” against Teresa. Holy delusions batman.

      So I wrote – “when is a sedated woman blurting confidences of an ex friend “fearless”. I’m dumber for having watched @wendywiliams on #wwhl with @bravoandy. Throwing towel. (ode to Teresa in season two reunion).

      • HairLikeCher says:

        Bigg hayah, Wendy Williams calling Jacqueline “fearless” in her “defense” against Teresa is typical WW. Even on her own show she does not research her own guests whatsoever and looks like a damn fool when she interviews them. By that comment alone, I’d say that she doesn’t even watch RHONJ, she probably bases her ludicrous assumptions on some “fact sheet” that one of her handlers gave to her once before the women appeared on her show the first time. She has probably never even seen one episode.
        Add to that the fact that Andy Cohen acts like she is the poor man’s Nene Leakes/RuPaul hybrid and there you go – a seat in the clubhouse bellowing “How you doin?” and flaring her non-existent nostrils as yet another car on Andy’s WWHL-Teresa-Hate-Train.

        • Fame says:

          I don’t why people watch her show. Like you said HLC, she doesn’t do any research before interviewing her guests… it’s like she’s fed tidbits of info and goes on that.

          • i live in Utah = they do not show Wendy Williams HERE or The New Normal

          • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

            I’ve never watched her show but u know, if she doesn’t watch the RH shows, Part of me feels better about her being so clueless. Willful blindness I just can’t tolerate…lol. (I’m getting way too invested in RHONJ. Haha). I’m always completely blown away when I read the comments of people who support “everyone else” instead of Teresa.

            When these talk show people like Anderson and WW behave so agressively with a guest I just don’t understand. I wouldn’t be that rude to anyone in a public forum. Teresa is an enormous cash cow for bravo while the rest of the franchise hasn’t even been able to pay back their advance. I wonder if Andy created “bash tre” as a perverse way of getting her more popular and more relatable. ??

            Funny, I remember her when she was on the radio when I was a kid. Damn, she must be ancient.

        • gramalot says:

          Cannot stand Windy Full of herself Williams. She truly does need to research the facts before blasting her mouth off. She is a BIG Mewitcha fan, so that tells you how much of the truth she knows. Tre handled herself quite well on Windy’s show when put on the spot more than once. Windy is a lazy interviewer.. Would like to see if she’d put Mewitcha on the spot, since she is one of her biggest fans.. Delusional nincompoop.

    • i turned andy off, i got mad when he claimed more people say he’s too soft on teresa,thanks to you fame, i now know why teresa loses so bad in polls.after part 3, i won’t be watching anything on bravo,if teresa isn’t cleared.but will still read your column, since i really enjoy it.

      • Fame says:

        Thanks Lucille. Andy is full of it… saying that people are telling him he’s too soft on Teresa, and tweeting that she’s a strong women and can take it so the gang up isn’t bullying. Please!

        • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

          Fame, is that not the most vile statement you’ve ever heard? She’s strong she can take it. Wow, that is so far out on the scale of dysfunction. I’m disappointed that Andy only pushes the equality agenda when it relates to lgbt issues. Women are THE disenfranchised population. He sticks to one dimensional archetypes in rho cast members. It’s too bad. He has a great platform. Oh well.

        • chioma says:

          Didn’t bother to watch,after i was the one answering caroline for tre on the bully question.lol

    • HairLikeCher says:

      Oh and no doubt the polls are rigged. I’ve been voting in WWHL polls for several seasons and sometimes I vote in RHOBH polls as well because I watch that from time to time. Oddly, it’s always my pro-Teresa votes that either get a response of “Sorry, we didn’t understand your reply” or I don’t get the thanks from Andy for voting in the poll (meaning that the text didn’t go through). Even when I simply text the word “Teresa”.

  4. bravofan says:

    joe sure doesnt seem happy in those christmas pics…..hmmmm

  5. Bj says:

    The show is totally bias I feel sorry for tre and Andy getting all emotional cus Rosie came out plzzzz such crap uggggg this is getting to annoying to even watch anymore

    • gessiewtf says:

      Yeah,Andy….Evidently every single gay person on earth should have a gold medal put around their neck for admitting they Re gay, Why they are even braver than our armed forces. Rosie is a dumb vicious thug, but you give her a place on the reunion. She Is a terrible role model for anybody.

      • Fame says:

        You have a way with words gessie!

      • SunnyAZ_1 says:

        Thank you, thank you., perfect analogy!!!!! Woe is me poor Rosey. Suck it up! NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS… IT’S REALLY NOT THAT RELEVANT WHO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BED TO MOST PEOPLE!!!!!!!. Why is she even on this show? Because she is Gay. Why was Jamie’s wedding (though beautiful) even on this show? Because he is Gay. Then you have the Gay equality march on RHONY last season. Enough already! Andy… we get it, you’re Gay… NO ONE CARES.

        I really am tired of the angle that Bravo is taking all their shows. And as far as Wendy Williams…. “Teresa is not bullied because she is a strong woman” meaning basically she can handle it. Sounds like she is parroting Andy’s tweet when confronted about bullying Teresa. WTH does she/he know or anyone else for that matter how Teresa is handling all this. Yes she can put up a strong front and state to “bring it” when insulted but that does not mean she is strong and that all this is not hurting her. I doubt she would pull a Russell Armstrong but what if something horrible were to happen to her? Then you’d have all these Teresa-coat-tail-riding-the bandwagon-to-fame people using her once again for their woe is me moment. They should all be ashamed of themselves. If all this were true is one thing but considering that on this site alone and not considering all the other websites that have proven all the lies, video inconsistencies, talk-overs, and cover-ups, etc. this is all extremely disgusting. Now they’re trying to blackball her from remaining on this show. Maybe they’re not paying that close of attention to Teresa because she hasn’t cracked and hasn’t faltered to what they have all done to her. After all, she is a STRONG WOMAN. So, with that said, maybe all the other cast should get off this show if it’s that bad for them. Especially poor Melissa since she is so deathly afraid of Teresa.

        • hoolie says:

          “Teresa is not bullied because she is a strong woman” meaning basically she can handle it. Sounds like she is parroting Andy’s tweet when confronted about bullying Teresa.

          IMO what Andy and WW have said about Teresa being bullied is tantamount to saying the woman who is dressed provactively and flirtatious deserves to be raped.

          Sorry if that offends anyone, but that is making a victim out to be deserving of an act.

          • SunnyAZ_1 says:

            So true. To assume that because they “think” Teresa is a strong woman that all of this is not getting to her emotionally is speaks volumes of their moral compass.

          • HairLikeCher says:

            hoolie, no that was a good analogy. Making the victim out to be deserving of the act. Here’s another real life example for you:
            Several years ago, I got out of an abusive relationship that had lasted nearly three years. Right after it ended, there were people telling me that because he and I fought all the time, because I had stayed with him for three years, and because I was aware of his bad temper that I somehow deserved to be beaten or at least could have prevented it or should have known it was coming by that point. Not in those exact words but it was implied.
            The same thing: blaming the victim for what the aggressor is doing to them.
            You see it with bullying situations in schools, too. The kids being bullied are frequently faulted for not defending themselves or not fighting back as if that is both the problem and the solution. The problem is that the bullying is happening in the first place and the solution is that the bully must be held accountable for his/her actions and stop doing it.

            I turned off WWHL last night after about 10 minutes but what made me furious was that Andy said the term “bullying” gets thrown around too loosely and that it does not apply to RHONJ. Aside from the show, who is Andy Cohen to judge what constitutes bullying or worse, to judge another person’s feelings? If anyone feels that is what is happening to them then their feelings should be acknowledged, not minimized. The mere act of him diminishing it like that is extremely detrimental to someone who is being bullied. Him saying that last night was exactly like all those people who said to me that I was not abused or that I deserved what I got. Just because you don’t see what’s happening or feel the feelings of someone else doesn’t mean you can pass judgment on their experience. I fought long and hard to convince myself that I was not crazy BECAUSE of people like him and comments like that – despite the fact that I had physical injuries to substantiate what happened to me.

            Andy himself is a bully and he doesn’t even realize it. And it doesn’t matter how strong a person you are, anyone can be broken. He’s an ass for saying such a thing and he has NO IDEA how much damage he is causing by perpetuating such a blatant falsehood.

          • Anonymous says:

            well put and sadly true

          • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

            Hoolie BINGO! That’s precisely what those kinds of statements reflect.

          • Sackem says:

            Hair Like Cher….. Dude!!! What a terrible thing for people to have said to you! Good for you for getting out! THAT takes strength!!!

      • Amen gessiewtf, I agree with you- she is a thug that wants to be a man- if I were Tre I would totally file a police report “terrorist threatening” death threats????

      • toxicprince says:

        i have to agree with you. i am actually gay myself & i think they are using the gay thing as a way to be a “victim.” rosie said that her mother said that she wouldn’t trade her for a billion dollars… um, why would a mother even say THAT to their child? i never really had to come out to my family because they just knew. i think if somebody had said that to me i would wonder why they had to even say such a thing. being gay isn’t a disability & i am sick of people playing victim because of it. it doesn’t make you any less of a person & it doesn’t make you more. rosie said that she had felt more pain from being gay then anybody else on the couch had felt. well, if everyone was SO supportive, why were you feeling pain? why did you feel left out if everyone treated you like anybody else? i feel like they have terrible portrayals of LGBT people on RHONJ (other than jaime’s wedding… which should have been on dina’s show). i hope they get rid of everybody but teresa next season. i am so sick of the same old drama (i mean, i watch for drama, it would be silly to say you hated drama watching something like this, what i mean is i am sick of the SAME FREAKIN’ STORY EVERY EPISODE. if it wasn’t for teresa there is no way i would be watching this shit. i almost wish they would bring danielle back! & dina. oh how i miss season 1 & 2.

        • Sackem says:

          Great post! I’ve sometimes felt that Bravo brings negative attention to the gay and lesbian community with their stereotypes in the Real Housewives franchises. It blew me away that Andy Cohen who claims to be an activist would suggest that a person coming off strong is impermeable to bullying when so much has been in the media in the last few years about bullying and sexuality. It sometimes seems that forcing or overcompensating or making too much out of a person and their experiences can sometime result in a weird alienation for want of a better word. I mean we’re all human and want to be treated equally. Yes?

          • J.Paz says:

            This whole “Teresa is not being bullied because she is a strong woman” is crap. So Andy is a strong independent man, is it ok if we bully him and call him homophobic slurs? NO!!!! Its still wrong. Whether the other person could handle it or not doesn’t mean it isn’t bullying.

          • RH Viewer says:

            We all probably considered Russell Armstrong a strong man and yet, look at what happened there….

        • Ellen says:

          I agree with you! At first I did like Rosie. Not because she was gay, but because I thought her personality seemed kinda goofy and clumbsy. The whole storyline became sooooo fake. If Kathy and Rosie were so tight, then how come Kathy’s first time at a gay bar with her sister took place on the show? How come her kids were officially told their aunt was gay…on the show. With a dad like Ritchie those kids are not so innocent. Also, most times when people have gay friends they will go often to gay bars. I think that maybe this was the first time Kathy was accepting Rosie and it made her feel good, so she is now fiercely loyal.

          • hmm all good points, i was very disappointed andy didn’t acknowledge Rosie’s behavior backstage just glossing over her roid rage, it was very telling of his true feelings and bottom line stance that has put people’s lives in jeopardy(RHBH) and left families in ruin(RHNJ)

        • Fame says:

          Thank you for the insightful comment toxicprince. The portrayals on the show feel disingenuous. Your comment confirms what viewers are feeling about the show. And it IS the same freakin’ story every episode. If they bring back Jacqueline, it will be a big mistake because she and Melissa will attack Teresa with more lies, using each other to back them up.

          The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. – John F. Kennedy

  6. Sackem says:

    Great article fellas!!!!!!!!!! Is it on yet????

    • Fame says:

      Oh, it’s on Sackem. Caroline never shuts up, repeating the same things from season 3 reunion. Melissa is ridic with her exaggerated facial expressions. Kathy at least apologized for calling Teresa’s mom a liar but didn’t say anything about calling her dad a coward. Jac is mumbling stuff to match her true self, which she shows on twitter. Teresa isn’t doing too badly, but I don’t have high expectations when it comes to her.

  7. Bj says:

    I wish tre knew how to better defend herself

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      I agree – OMG – I am screaming at the TV with so many scenarios of when Caroline was a bully – talking behind her back, egging Melissa on, egging Jacqueline, name calling, etc. The infamous TH “prediction” and on and on.

      Teresa needs a coach, speech therapist, PR agent, something, someone – stat!

  8. bravofan says:

    Here is the problem, these biatches dont speak teresas language, I understand her totally…”yes” tre answered to andy when he asked if Caro bullied her. Then she said “no” she wasnt bullied to caro when she asked! to every biatch on the couch, she contradicted herself…but to those who have been watching tapes closely, and even with teresa trying to explain herself we heard this. “caro, you bullied me all season, this is very apparent to all the viewers, however, I never FELT bullied by you, because you are insginificant to me”

    THATS what TRE was trying to say

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      bravofan – thank you for saying so clearly what I was trying to put together in my head. Exactly!

      • bravofan says:

        I know seriously, they dont speak her language, or worst, they know she isnt always clear on articulating so they take advantage of her

        • HairLikeCher says:

          bravofan, I say the same thing. One of Teresa’s biggest flaws is her inability to articulate herself verbally or to think quickly on her feet especially in emotionally charged situations. Couple that with the fact that she has admitted several times that she thinks in Italian and translates in her head to English and her speech frequently comes out jumbled and messy. The other four jump at the opportunity to take advantage of this, sometimes even provoking her into situations where she will get tongue-tied. That is why when Teresa has had enough she just waves her hand and says “Okay whatever”. It is no indication of a lack of intelligence on Teresa’s part. But it can be helped with a speech therapist and I SO wish she’d get one. Can you imagine how unstoppable she’d be if she could verbally keep up with the rest of them? I’d pay to watch it.

          • Silvia says:

            very well put HairLikeCher. I can so relate to T and her articulating. I’m european and English is my second language too and I wasn’t born here. I too think in my language and then have to translate it . SO many times I was in situations where all of the sudden I could not find proper words to say what I needed to say when in an argument or certain situation. Then – even 5 minutes after the situation passed,I all of the sudden had those words – when I had time to think about it. I often got mad at my self. Not even therapist will help here – perhaps time.

          • Anonymous says:

            me too

        • Sackem says:

          English is my 1st language and I couldn’t think fast enough with 4 women screeching at me at once!

    • Kate says:

      She didn’t even really say Caroline bullied her in the first place. Andy asked a question from a viewer, and in that question the viewer said Caroline had bullied Teresa. The actual question was, does she regret treating Danielle the way she did now that Caroline is doing the same thing to her. And Teresa answered yes, as in yes, I feel bad about the way I treated Danielle, NOT yes, Caroline bullied me. THEN Caroline starting asking for examples of how she bullied Teresa, before Teresa ever said that Caroline bullied her. In reality, Caroline should’ve been asking the viewer that sent in that question, because that was the only person to call her a bully.

      Teresa answered Caroline’s question with “the whole season,” as in, I’m sure you could find examples of you being a bully throughout the entire season, but she couldn’t give any, because from her perspective, she was not being bullied by Caroline. But from the perspective of the vast majority of the viewers, it’s common knowledge that the season was filled with Caroline being a bully.

      • Brynn says:

        I saw that too! Then both Andy and Caroline weretalking and asking her questions at the sametime she probably didnt know which one to respond to first!

  9. Jeannie5233 says:

    Here it comes – BAM – the actress Melissa Marco comes out – tears and all – using the kids!

  10. Sackem says:

    What are we going to do after this is all over? Light up the proverbial cigarette usually reserved for post coital situations??? Sit back and exhale, scratch our heads and go “Wow”? If only I wasn’t pregnant cause I’d have mine with a gin and tonic….

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      OMG – You have me crying – I’m laughing so hard! :)

    • HairLikeCher says:

      Sackem, I have a feeling that Fame and Chris Stark will keep us entertained with their stellar investigative work while the show is on hiatus. Plus, there is always Jacqueline’s shiraz-soaked stream of consciousness Twitter ramblings to decipher. Oh and when I order my Wakile Fish Cannoli kit from QVC I’ll give it a test drive and report my findings here. How’s that?

      • Sackem says:

        Sometimes I watch with my hand over my eyes, leaving just enough of a gap to close it if it gets to hairy…. kinda like the first time I watched Nightmare on Elm St…..

      • isolde says:

        HLC, please don’t order a cannoli kit. These people don’t deserve for one cent to be put in their pocket from us viewers. Not the way she has behaved. I know people will be curious about it, but I hope it doesn’t go over. I don’t wish anyone ill will, but I don’t think they should be rewarded, either. Just make up nasty comments about it, we will believe you, we’re stupid, we will believe anything that someone tells us. LOL.

        • HairLikeCher says:

          isolde, I was totally kidding about the cannoli kit. If I want cannoli, I’ll hightail it down the block to grandma’s house and make ‘em from scratch. No way would I buy anything from that vacca, Kathy.

      • The Mooch says:

        Why waste your money? QVC has all kinds of fun things to buy.. Instead of the Cannoli kit buy Mrs. Prindable’s christmas holiday sprinkle caramel apples lol. (They are delish!!!)

      • Kim G says:

        I’m boycotting QVC this shopping season, just because they are allowing Kathie to sell her “crappoli kits” there…..

    • Confused RHNJ viewer says:

      Good one Sackem. Hope that you are feeling well today.

    • isolde says:

      Sackem, I so feel with you! I was thinking that I should take a blood pressure pill before the show started. I will have a cigarette and drink for you, as I don’t think blood pressure pill will do the trick. Stay calm though it will be tough. I am picturing you, with all your funny comments, and feeling for you because of the pregnancy and bed rest (are you still on bed rest?) Trust me, thinking of you and wishing you well, because you are as frustrated as we are. We are all wishing we could put our words in Teresa’s mouth at this reunion, and answer the way these women should be answered. God bless Teresa for letting it go, after Kathy’s insincere, fake apology. I would have told her to eff off, because I didn’t believe her insincere apology, that it was just for show. Also, it was a good catch by Squeezy, that she wasn’t talking to Danielle when she was pregnant with or when she had Joey, because she said she was pregnant with Joey at Christmas when Teresa threw away the store bought cookies (how could she do that to me when I was pregnant?), and also blamed it on her hormones. Melissa then says she doesn’t lie. Notice though, when Teresa brought up her dating Joey’s friend, before her brother, Melissa cut her off, and said I’m not doing this because it’s all lies. She didn’t want Teresa to talk about the beginning of the relationship. We are no fools. Take care and stay calm, Sackem.

      • Sackem says:

        Thanks Isolde! The yucky days are becoming less frequent! I can’t wait to watch it!!! It’s the nervous anticipation that gets me. I want so badly for Teresa to vocalise her thoughts clearly but she never does… very excited to hear that Missy’s still digging a hole for herself! Contradicting herself about Danielle?? Aye yi yi yie!!!!

    • Dubbalicious says:

      Damn Sackem, you’re hysterical!! :)

  11. Sackem says:

    Did someone get Melissa that she went out with a friend of Joe and that their kids don’t go to the same school ????? Oh boy oh boy oh boy…

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      Sackem – I caught that as well when Teresa said Melissa was dating her brother’s best friend -and she just deflected that – “Things that make you go HMMMMMM!”

      Fame – thanks again for all of your enlightenment and work you have put here – it really makes it so much easier to watch this crap!

      • Silvia says:

        I think the best is yet to come- in a preview for next week he said – mellisa why don’t you tell how you met him.

        • HairLikeCher says:

          Silvia, last week on Twitter, Pete Giudice also alluded to the fact that Melissa and Joe’s “how we met” story is a bunch of horsefeathers, as well. He said something about Cancun and that there were pictures. It sounded almost like a threat.

        • isolde says:

          I know and I just want someone to finish telling the story, they either get cut off, or Bravo may be editing. I just wish that someone would tell the truth, the whole truth about everything so that these people would realize that they should just stop lying, because someone is going to out them if they lie. Melissa just keeps saying she wanted Teresa and Joe to fix their relationship–no you didn’t, so just say so. She went to Danielle, and then suddenly when she got on the show, in front of cameras, she decided she wanted to forgive Teresa, and for her husband to fix his relationship with his sister. She didn’t hate her, and then it turned to love because of the show. Please! Then you have Jacqueline saying that all that fighting between Teresa, Melissa and Kathy was what it was like behind scenes all the time. So, if that’s true, they have been at each other for the last 2 years, and everyone is acting. The only thing I believe is that Teresa loves her brother, and wanted a relationship with him, and now I think that it hurts her, but she has decided to move on because she doesn’t see it possible.

    • isolde says:

      Sackem, read my reply to your other comment, I mention that. Great minds think alike. They can’t keep up with their lies. Good thing we can!

      • Jeannie5233 says:

        Gret blog, by the way, isolde! Congratulatons – a great read! :)

        • isolde says:

          Thank you, I appreciate that Fame gave me the opportunity to write something and added it to her blog. She does such good work, that I was honored she included it.

    • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

      Sackem: yes! Can’t believe she was so defensive about that and shut the dialogue down. That kinda stuff is what really makes me go hmmm.. She’s not used to The reunion tapings yet. When she films on her own or in a small group she has a bit more control over what gets aired. They have a scene to film she knows the context for the scene and the driving point of the shoot. Reunions – whole different ball game. It’s more of a free-for-all, competing with ALL of your castmates for 1) to be asked back for next season 2) to put out sound bites that will push forward your story arc. IMO, this reunion has been an epic fail for Melissa. She’s coming off silly and vindictive and that mopey oh poor me face – its boring. Her victim dialogue – oh Lordy! How long did she rehearse those lines? LOLOL.

      Btw The Greeks have been putting Melissa on blast. Did they get signed for season 5? Does anyone know?

  12. Jeannie5233 says:

    I’m sorry – Joe can be a thug – but he is funny – Jacs running her mouth off about him cheating with everyone except Michelle Obama and he told her she needs to get her head checked – he makes more sense than all of them put together!

    • Fame says:

      Joe cracks me up.

      • HairLikeCher says:

        My two favorite things about Joe Joo-Dee-Chay tonight:

        1. That he called Andy out for including the phone call in the Napa episode. That guy has the balls of a Pit Bull.

        2. His burp.

        • isolde says:

          3. Telling Jacqueline she needs her head checked.

          He’s crude, but direct. Andy asking him do you cheat on Teresa? Yeah, right, anyone will admit that on television.

          Melissa’s comment that none of them have bashed Teresa’s marriage. I wish I was in Andy’s chair, to pull out all their quotes about Teresa’s marriage, including Melissa’s. Can’t wait for Kim D., to hear what she has to say. Also, wondering what Jacqueline said that had Teresa get upset and stand up. Can’t wait to hear Caroline’s comment, when Teresa says to Jacqueline that Caroline told her that Jacqueline was a stripper.

          I know it is a sensitive subject and don’t mean to offend anyone, but does anyone believe that Kathy’s kids didn’t even know at ages 18 and 15 that Rosie was gay, before she told them on the show? I don’t believe because kids are more aware these days, and the schools even teach tolerance in school. Also, don’t believe that Rich and Kathy never spoke of it in the house. I feel like Rich may have had an issue with it because of a comment Rosie made on the show, and his mentality, and that he and Kathy may have argued about it, which caused tension between Rosie and Kathy.

          • Silvia says:

            exactly. those kids knew about it , come on now. Andy loves coming out stories like that – but in this case it was pushed. also when rosie said – its ok to come out – and then cut to caro and her face impresion and gentle agreeing head move – in that moment I said to myself – albie, that was a message directly to you….it would be more encouraging for people straggling with this coming out to hear it from Albie himself .

          • Sackem says:

            What? No one bashed their marriage???? Pig’s Arse!! (hmmm wonder if that’ll translate?) Someone made a great comment on Missy’s blog about her staying awfully quiet whilst Lauren attacked Teresa’s kids.. aren’t children precious and out of bounds. So much for family protecting the innocent as Missy says she needs to protect hers from people who speak ill.The lady’s a walking contradiction!

          • toxicprince says:

            yeah right they didn’t know! lol. i think it’s almost funny. joe & vic, i’m sure, have been watching the show themselves, & you can clearly see that rosie is gay in season 3. i think they should have just made it out to being a conversation about being gay, not her “coming out” to them. by the way, i am gay & didn’t take any offense. they had to have known. there is absolutely no way they didn’t.

          • HairLikeCher says:

            isolde, I thought the “coming out” scene with Rosie and Kathy’s kids seemed a bit…I can’t find a good word. Something. First of all, Rosie never actually came right out and told them that she’s gay. She kept dancing around it and saying things like “God made me this way”. To a kid who had no idea what she was talking about (supposedly), that would be very confusing. God made ALL of us the way we are, right? So what would she have been talking about if she didn’t come out directly and say to them “I’m gay and God made me this way”? She never actually said to the kids that she is gay unless Bravo edited it out and why would they do that if that’s what the whole scene was about?
            Also, the fact that Victoria cried spoke volumes to me. To me, it seemed like she wasn’t crying over her feelings about her aunt coming out (because technically Rosie didn’t) but more because she KNEW her Aunt Rosie was gay and she was happy for her that she didn’t have to live behind a secret with the kids any longer. It seemed like she sensed that it was painful for Rosie to have to deny who she really is to people and that Victoria was happy that she didn’t have to be in denial with Kathy’s kids. And probably a little bit of relief that Victoria and Joseph didn’t have to pretend that they were unaware anymore. That was the impression I got but I could be wrong.

        • Silvia says:

          YES. I would add 3.- hoo kes (who cares) :-)

          • I would almost bet both Manzo boys like boys. No one said why Lindsey & Albie broke up hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm there is a reason those losers remain on the show-coming out season 5? Greggy??? hmmm

    • Brynn says:

      I have to say I don’t agree with the “c word” that gets thrown around a lot on the show, but I am a fan of Joe. He’s not afraid to say what he’s thinking and doesn’t go by Bravo rules. Also, it was nice to get a laugh after what it seemed to be a long drawn out episode. How come they aren’t quick to jump on Joe when he makes his comments? They seem to sit there and hear what he has to say. I was also wondering if he was able to hear the comments that they were making about his daughters and in-laws. To me a guy like Joe isn’t going to sit there and let these women say those things without letting them know how he feels about it.

  13. Squeezy says:

    I’m not a juicy fan, but he was trying to spare Jac the Chris cheating story by saying, who cares, it doesn’t matter. For once he wasn’t being a pig, and look Jac thanked him appropriately by telling the world he’s a cheater.
    If Chris didn’t cheat, wouldn’t Caroline have jumped in and defended him???

    • Confused RHNJ viewer says:

      No, because that would then bring in the allegations of Fat Al’s alleged affair. I think that the subject of affairs couldn’t end soon enough for her.

    • toxicprince says:

      i’ve read a few comments of albert’s infidelities but i haven’t seen any articles on this site yet. could someone point me in the direction of some, if available?

      • Sackem says:

        There’s nothing out there but rumour sort of like Roxy Poxy. Here’s an section from On Common Ground – Melissa’s go to before she made it on the show (PS I left in some Melissa). I personally don’t believe this one so if anyone else has a reference…….

        December 19, 2008 10:48 PM
        Anonymous said…
        I met the brother of the Montville housewife. What an awesome guy very successful owns alot of buildings and he is her younger brother. He is very young. Wow!! His house is the most amazing house in Montville, in a very prestigious development. Its an OMG! Cribs doesn’t even have houses like that. He has a beautiful wife and family, she is only 29! living in a house like that! God Bless. If the montville housewife is anything like her brother she should be interesting. Im sure she will be, they must come from a great family. I know of some of the other girls. Im excited to watch the show. When does it come on?

        December 21, 2008 12:24 PM
        Anonymous said…
        P.S. I know his accountant, He may be nice, but he’s in bankruptcy. And, as far as his wife, she may be 29 and beautiful but she don’t know yet. If you wait alittle longer, you could buy his house at auction.

        December 22, 2008 7:56 PM
        Anonymous said…
        I am having an affair with someone on the show. Hints later!

        December 29, 2008 12:21 AM
        Anonymous said…
        oh…come on. Now you are just being stupid. They are all women on the show and a guy who is having an affair just wouldn’t post a comment like that. No guy would even know about these site’s. That is totally a jealous chick thing to do…you are just making a fool of yourself now. Seriously…GET A LIFE, and leave these girls out of it!!!!!

        April 26, 2009 11:23 PM
        Christina said…
        But these wom-MAN are just that. I know ALbert sr. I had a three month affair with him, on business trips he would fly me there on the same flight, we would pretend we were strangers, and when he would take off my panties with his teeth…oh….

        http://oncommonground.blogspot.ca/2008/04/real-housewives-of-new-jersey.html?commentPage=2

        It’s a pretty interesting read…. gets very colourful but family members and Brownstone staff went on in the early days…

        • hoolie says:

          when he would take off my panties with his teeth…oh….

          I just threw up a little in my mouth…..

          • Sackem says:

            Yeah, that’s when I decided it was BS…. I may not sleep tonight.

          • twitterfiend says:

            You guys are giving me such a good laugh today with your comments!!! Thank you, I really need it!! The teeth and panties thing does not create a good visual. LOL!

        • toxicprince says:

          wow, i just read like all the comments on the oncommonground blog. i see ashley & melissa made their way over there. i am pretty sure ashley was one, she kept referring to everyone as “haters.” there was a bunch of terrible comments about teresa that sounded a lot like melissa. a very interesting read indeed! thank you sackem!

        • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

          Canu believe Melissa comment about herself? Hahaha. Textbook narcissist. I’m tellin ya. Holy cow! U gotta have some warped sense of who u are and ur relationship to the world around u to think anyone reading that wouldn’t know that Teresa’s SIL wrote it. Even though no one cared. Her need to be “on the show” even though they turned her down 3 or 4 times is so palpable. I love that common ground thread! THAS a treasure trove of background for the show right there because it’s what these people said when they thought no one was watching. LOL.

    • Caroline can’t stand Jacqueline and wants her brother to divorce him and take the kids from her. She has totally been giving Jacq all the rope she needs to hang herself with this little RHONJ thing.

      • redmoon says:

        I see that too, because she knows Dina doesn’t like her. And C’s been making some jabs at jac saying she’s scared of her…it’s constant

  14. teap0t says:

    Mego is a rabid chihuahua.

  15. Silvia says:

    can I just say – I love Juicy Joe! he was awesome

    • Silvia says:

      can u imagine them getting own show? I bet he would be very funny and him self , he and Tre and kids. I would definitely watch that! Now I see where Milania got it from :-)

      • Jeannie5233 says:

        SNAPS!!

      • HairLikeCher says:

        Silvia, I agree with you in theory. I would love to see a Giudice-only show as I feel it would be great TV. But Joe doesn’t even want to be filmed for RHONJ. He’s been doing it for the past 4 seasons for Teresa and I recently read that he no longer wants to be filmed and will not be appearing in season 5. He clearly does not play the Bravo game, does not follow Bravo’s rules, he says and does what he wants and he’s the only husband who does not do TH interviews. I read that this is the reason why Teresa has turned down several of the offers she has received for her own show :-(

        • Jeannie5233 says:

          You are right HLC :( It would have been fun to watch a show like Silvia describes maybe a few years ago – but Joe is “done” regardless of what happens to him legally.

        • Silvia says:

          yes. but perhaps doing own show without all those other people it could be more – laid back and less stressful. who knows, I’m glad at least T. is back for season 5 and it should be a good one. with new hw’s who are team T. I have to say I noticed girls are not that happy to be filmed all the time too- the kiddos. Even though cute as a buttons and funny, I respect that Joe and kids won’t be filmed .Is your hair really like cher’s? :-)

          • Sackem says:

            I think that to when I see Hair Like Cher….. and if so in like the 70′s or the 80′s Oscars outfit kind of a way??????

          • Silvia says:

            I think they share the confidence and no nonsense attitude (same goes for you Sackem ) I’m imagining awesome hair, full on makeup glitter everywhere fiercly typing behind the one of those gigantic old school 80 ‘s PC :-) all in fun Hair Like Cher, I think you are great! ;-)

          • Sackem says:

            Perfect!!!!!

          • HairLikeCher says:

            Ha! You girls are awesome! My hair is black, straight and down to my waist. So…probably Cher circa 1975-ish. Although hers was still longer than mine is :-)

        • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

          HLC. I c ur point. But I recently watched season 1 again and he was real but he didn’t mind the cameras so much, “happy life, happy wife” came from him on season one. He was so sweet with his girls. Even when he was teasing them. I still like juicy. I agree he is who he is. I know my husband would behave a lot worse given what he and Tre have been thru the past few years,

  16. Bj says:

    Those words are going to come back and haunt jacklyn when her husband and bother in laws go to jail for fraud

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      Ah, but Bj, it is very possible Jacs will be wearing stripes too – she is also named, specifically paying off credit cards in her name – karma will find a way.

    • isolde says:

      I was thinking the same thing that she should bite her tongue, when that comment came out. What a horrible thing to say to anyone. She is a witch. She is so vindictive, it is pathetic, and I wouldn’t be running my big mouth when there are issues out there, and I am sure Joe Giudice knows things about Chris.

  17. Jeannie5233 says:

    Wendy Williams just said Caroline did not bully Teresa as Teresa is not able to be bullied. She just said though that Jacqueline, however, has the personality to be bullied as she doesn’t stand up for herself unless Caroline is around. What? I’m turning this off.

    • Sackem says:

      Teresa is unable to be bullied???? WTF is she serious? Who are these people and why are they on your screens????? I think Wendy’s in line for one of my infamous cranky letters. How is she, some jurno wannabe an expert on bullying? She’s Jerry Springer in a dress! Bring back Donahue or send Maury over there with the results of the lie detector!!!!!!!

    • Fame says:

      Wendy is part of the Bravo machine. She is doing what Anderson Cooper and Kelly/Mark did as a favor to Andy. I am not watching WWHL because it is all BS, just like RHONJ.

      • Wendy keeps mentioning that Teresa NEEDS to leave reality television. I really hope Teresa comes back next season….I’m sure Wendy’s opinion doesn’t hold any weight, but it’s making me nervous!

        • HairLikeCher says:

          No worries, Jessica. According to Wendy’s own logic, Teresa is unable to be bullied, right? So her words should be insignificant to Teresa. No way would Teresa listen to what that tranny has to say.
          Teresa is a 100% guarantee for season 5. A poster on another blog went to one of Tre’s appearances last week and spoke directly to her and Teresa said that there will be new housewives for season 5 who are Team Teresa and that we fans will be happy :-)
          I read somewhere else that one of them is Priscilla DiStasio, Teresa’s makeup artist. Don’t know if that is definitely true but if it is, she is a close friend of Teresa’s. And she is BEAUTIFUL!! :-)

          • Adriana says:

            Teresa needs a new makeup artist badly! She has looked really slick, greasy and sweaty in the padt ole of appearances. Mel, on the otherhand looked totally dry and non- reflective!

      • isolde says:

        I am done with all their shows because of the obvious bias. Also, Wendy kept saying Teresa should get off reality tv because look what happens with Kathy calling Teresa’s mother those names, and Rosie threatening violence. Wendy said time for Teresa to get off reality tv, instead of calling out Kathy’s and Rosie’s behavior, and that they should not be on reality tv. I am done with ever watching any of their shows, ever. Either call out everyone across the board, or stay quiet. Couldn’t believe Wendy didn’t say at the very least, that everyone’s parents are off limits, and that it was out of line. Their obvious evasion of condemning bad behavior reflects on their ability to be unbiased, and honestly, sick of the double standard.

        • Bigg hayah long nailsss! says:

          Isolde. I know, Wendy was completely out of order with her logic. Kathy is a snake. I think back on when Teresa said “this isn’t the real Kathy”. She was right. We saw the real Kathy for the first time on part 1 of the reunion. When someone shows that level of bias I have to wonder what her true agenda is. Someone said that Wendys show will be cancelled and she’s vying for a place on bravos endless reality franchise. I dont think she would be considered for RHONJ because the arc for the show is “family”. There’s few stronger stereotypes to show family than the Italian-American family. But who knows.

          As for a strong woman being immune to bullying. Wow! Just wow! How anyone could say that ? It shows such a disconnect to social context and how people move in groups. Even prisoners know the best way to get to the top of the “pecking order” (lol) is to beat up the strongest guy. When someone is being bullied the person takes blows to their ego. A stronger ego will experience a slight nick, a weaker one will experience a large gash. But those little nicks build up over time. The impact on the person can be unseen. U rarely see Teresa sweat. But as someone noted above, she was sweating during the taping of this reunion. What someone shows on the outside isn’t necessarily what they’re experiencing on the inside, and the result of bullying isn’t necessarily suicide. Wendy is a silly woman.

      • mrs peabody says:

        I agree with you, how would it look if Bravo knowingly allowed one of the cast to be bullied by the other members of the cast esp after the suicide of Russell Armstrong. Not good image you want protrayed about a network

      • Kim G says:

        I’m boycotting WWHL and QVC, no Andy and no “Crappoli kits” for me….. In fact I’ve sent a few emails to that effect to QVC customer service.

        • Silvia says:

          I wrote to QVC too, last week. Got answer that they are sorry to hear that, they care about each customer, they will forward my concern higher , will look into it and someone will get to me .

    • SunnyAZ_1 says:

      RRRRR…. Wendy stated that if Teresa is really wanting to make things better with her brother Joey she should leave the spotlight and get off Reality TV. Ahhh… who was on the show first, and when Joey/Melissa joined that’s when everything go bat shit crazy? So why should Teresa be the one to leave? She is entitled to her opinion but what she should have said is “if Joey was just as concerned about wanting to make his and his wife’s relationship with Teresa better this show was not the platform to do it. When approached (let’s give them the benefit that THEY were approached) to do this show they should have turned it down because FAMILY IS FIRST. Wendy is just another Andy brown noser.

    • Kate says:

      What?! Jacqueline stands up for herself before there is even anything to stand up to. She’s constantly on the offensive, her eyes lighting up whenever there is a chance for her to make Teresa look bad. She’s just rabid with her need to constantly scream accusations or damaging information from when they used to be friends.

  18. Bj says:

    Wendy Williams stfu u ugly trani what ur dr phill now

    • Silvia says:

      it is time to get of tv wendy w! she was bad and so biased, talking nonsense, she made sure she was using the words bravo implanted in her head…

    • Ellen says:

      Notice that when Tre started saying that she was dating Joey’s best friend and something about Cancun, Melissa started screaming over her and that is when she hit her. She basically hit her in an attempt to stop her from revealing information. It worked because the subject was dropped.

      • bravofan says:

        I totally missed that, Im in replay right now, so will look for it

      • Silvia says:

        yes. and in promo joe said – mellisa why don;t you tell how you met him….that should be good to see her reaction…but she will probably just scream over it. she lost it, reacted as if she was ..uhm..cought in the act?

      • isolde says:

        That and the whole Danielle thing didn’t get delved into because Melissa started with her rants and speaking over Teresa so that her comments got cut off. After she put her hands on Teresa, and Teresa said “keep your hands off me, or I’ll press charges”, Melissa had the nerve to tell Teresa to get herself under control, and act ladylike. Unbelievable.

  19. jenibooboo says:

    jacqueline is so pathetic. chris cheats on her, all these husbands do. who are they kidding?

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      Jacs on her Twitter tweeting away about how wonderful her marriage is in between her autism tweets – then another dig about Teresa – then another autism tweet – same ole same ole. Some people are mentioning the lawsuit to her – so far, no response.

      • HairLikeCher says:

        Jeannie5233, there’s no response because she’s blocking them. That’s what Jac does when people hold up a mirror to her on Twitter.

        • jenibooboo says:

          from what I have heard chris’ infidelities are common knowlege. At least in his place of work.

          • twitterfiend says:

            Really?? I read an article that says the he has only cheated once (allegedly) and had deep regrets and remorse about it so he hasn’t done it since. What have you read?

        • Yes she blocked me when I asked about Chris’s gf also on twitter threatening exposure-she’s probably going to be paid off, aren’t they mafia wait the Manzo clan isn’t it??

          • jenibooboo says:

            i didnt read that allegation, an old coworker of mine told me this years ago during the 1st season. He told me his friend worked for chris laurita, and it was well known he was having sexual relations with several women who were not his wife.

    • Kate says:

      If Chris isn’t cheating on Jac, then he must have some kind of bizarre fetish for shrill, childish women who try to destroy anyone they are jealous of… in which case, whatever floats his boat.

  20. Jeannie5233 says:

    Fame – Interesting – I didn’t turn it off – I think Wendy Williams must have said at least 6 or seven times it was time for Teresa to get off Reality TV – Considering Chris Stark has a theory? that these past two weeks of media blitz with Teresa, WW, AC, and Kelly Ripa all saying it was time for her to go. What do you think?

  21. Anonymous says:

    Joe looks like Ben Stiller in Zoolander. LOL and all the Marco sisters grabbing him OMG.

  22. bravofan says:

    DID anyone notice how melissa was very hesitant to give teresa the front seat back next to Andy Cohen after Kathy apologized? LMAO

  23. HairLikeCher says:

    EXCELLENT post, isolde! I loved everything you said. You made some really astute observations. Applause!! :-)

    • isolde says:

      Thank you so much HLC, I appreciate it. I enjoyed your commentary as well from the other day. You expressed what I and many viewers are feeling and seeing with regard to the show and the cast. You did a great job, as did Fame with all of her blogs.

      • HairLikeCher says:

        Thank you so much! I was honored that Fame found my comments worthy of publishing in her blog. It makes me happy that people thought I was able to capture what many of us seem to be feeling/seeing. I also love this blog because we don’t get attacked for our views and I LOVE reading what Fame writes. She does a fantastic job! :-)

  24. Meri says:

    The only good thing Wendy did tonight was when she answered “Would you go to your best friend if you read she was going to jail in a magazine?” When she said no, Andy was like WTF Wendy…wrong answer! hahaha

  25. bravofan says:

    sorry people singing to a track is lip synching….wth, even the infamous ashley simpson was singing to a “track” on SNL,and the whole nation accused her of lip synching, because she was…
    Teresa is very righ ton this one

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      Hi bravofan:

      THANK YOU so much for putting up the video of the christening on the “Open Warrant Post” and giving the pointers on what to watch out for – it was a good review and a great catch about Teresa’s mom and the baby – who was taken out of harm’s way.

  26. Bj says:

    Went to radar and someone on there is passing around a petition to get tre off show poor tre she can’t catch a break

    • HairLikeCher says:

      Those petitions are useless. Clearly Bravo does not give a rat’s left testicle what viewers think. All it cares about are its ratings. It cares whether or not people are actually watching, not what we want to watch. People have petitioned to get every cast member off the show at one point or another. We have no say in such a thing.

      • WTH??! says:

        Magazines sell because the stories are all about Teresa. People watch the show because of Teresa, as a villain or not she is still the star of the show. AC’s campaign to get Teresa of the show is because they want her to leave the show just like Dina. They can’t get rid of her so easily, she Is the reason for the high ratings of the show. Whoever signs AC’s paycheck knows it wouldn’t be good for the show if Teresa was not in it.

        • WTH??! says:

          They are saying Teresa is not/ can’t be bullied so if she does leave the show she cannot claim it was that she was bullied into leaving.

          • Sackem says:

            Jesus H Christ (sorry if I offend) but who do they think Teresa is? Jeez 10′ tall and bullet proof? What Teflon Teresa – no insult will stick and hurt? This harks back to 1692 Salem, McCathyism anyone? I’m just astounded. For Radar to print THAT wow! At what point do these women put down their guns and say enough – stop talking, stop tweeting just stop. I mean honestly what has to happen to Teresa Giudice for all this crap to end?? Well done to Melissa Marco for opening this can of worms to the public. I bet she’s sitting up their in her unfurnished spec home giggling with delight.
            Cut and run Teresa!!!!!!!!!!

  27. jls says:

    It’s amazing how Bravo twists and manipulates stories and the media helps to make these lies seem real. Fortunately these are those with a brain that can see through all the lies. Those women are so envious of Teresa. All they think about is her. Just one example: Caroline was watching the Apprentice show. I know if was done with a friend and has lost all “respect for her” And thought she was “garbage”, i wouldn’t want to watch her on tv. And you can almost see her wheels turning trying to come up with things to attack Teresa with.
    Jackeline is not what I thought. She’s is very dissapointing. She has proven to be the worst of friends. I wonder if Chris is embarrassed at how his wife is behaving. She should be at home with her son instead of helping destroy Teresa. And those sleeping bits on the reunion were so childish.
    As for Kathy, her true colors came out. She sure does hate Teresa and can’t deal with her success. I don’t want to see anymore of her or her husband. Their only purpose on the show is to “bash” Teresa. It’s all so pathetic. I keep watching though hoping Teresa has her “ah-ha” moment. She deserves to be vendicated for al the lies and the hurt and the insults. I do wish she knew how to defend herself better.
    And Andy. He is horrible. It is so clear where he stands. He gives Teresa no break. He allows everyone to “gang-up” on Teresa and he acts like he’s putting a stop to it, but he’s not. What Rosie said should of had that “physo” kicked out of the room, at the very least. But instead he gives her an “enterance”. This oversized woman just just threatened to hurt Teresa, and he brings her out. He should have least brought out some security for Teresa. I don’t like him. And I couldnt see the aftershow. It was clear early on it was another “anti-Teresa” show. That Wendy woman how it was clear Teresa was involved. Really? I won’t be watching her show. I had just started to, but I lost respect for her.
    And of course there is Melissa. The “victim”. She is just evil. ANd honestly, Joe Gorga deserves Melissa. He is the worst of them all. This is his sister. They grew up together. They have a life of memories and family and all that brothers share. He has helped his wife to humiliate and hurt his own sister. He is trash in my book. And at this point I think Teresa is better off without him. He doesn’t deserve to have sister.
    In the end this is a show and we really can be 100% sure what is real and what is fake. But I can almost be sure that Teresa is the victim here. And as many faults as everyone says she has, and hurt and pain she’s caused them all, or try to destroy people, I cant see it. Even with all their editing. If I were her I would really think about leaving this show. Life is too short to constantly have to defend everything you do and everyone around you is trying to bring you down and have it air on television. Its just not worth it……………….I do hope Melissa has her day and we get to watch. I wouldn’t miss that show.

    • twitterfiend says:

      Thanking you for reminding me about something! I tripped out when Wendy said it was clear to her after watching the finale several times that Teresa set it all up. when previously on her show she claimed that Teresa is no actress and that she genuinely seemed blindsided and had NOTHING to do with it. It amazed me how her story changed once the WWHL camera started rolling.

  28. jls says:

    Correction: We “can’t ” be 100% sure…….

  29. HoustonHousewife37 says:

    I believe that Chris did cheat on Jac. That would explain a lot as to why she is so self-conscious about her body when she has no reason to be. That maybe why she keeps having all of these procedures (such as botox, fillers & ect.) done to her face when she (i.m.o.) is a beautiful woman. Clearly this is a woman who is insecure, and why is she still so insecure at age 41? My guess is because her man stepped out on her. I know that would make me feel not good enough. She even blurted out during the reunion that her ex cheated on her as well. She was pissed that Teresa would bring that up even though she has thrown her under the bus the entire reunion in regards to Melissa. I just think they ALL cross the line tonight when it came to talking about marriages. Family in any sense (marriage, kids, parents & etc) should be off limits, no matter what. I also couldn’t help but to notice Lauren trying to calm Rosie down. She stated something to the effect “In the end you’ll be the one wrong.” Why didn’t she take her own advice and stay calm when it was her turn on the couch. Talking about Tre’s marriage her children and then calling her a “d***k head.” Then to turn around and be the voice of reason for someone who was already trying to get themselves under control. She is just like her mother…do as I say, not as I do. Caroline’s behavior has been bullyish, but it wasn’t Tre she was acting that way toward because she knows she wouldn’t be successful at it. She was bullish toward Jac, who every time she expressed hope or the desire to make up with Tre she was overly agressive in stating her opinion on the matter.until Jac fiinally had her supposed “ah ha” moment. I can’t wait for the last part of this reunion so we can put this season of RHONJ to bed once and for all.

    .

    • hoolie says:

      she’s also insecure because as the old saying goes, how you catch em is how you lose em….. he was engaged to someone else and she got herself preggers to get him…..she’s worried someone else may snag him away…

    • Dani says:

      I thought back in season 1 that either Chris only married her because she was pregnant, or that he cheated on her. Her desperation to have another child said a lot to me. She already had 2 kids, but I think she needed that child to hold her marriage together. I also think that is why she was so hard and dismissive of Ashley, she isn’t secure in her marriage at all.

      • gessiewtf says:

        I think he married a pregnant girl from Las Vegas. Caroline most certainly did not like her in the beginning, and Jacqueline is a big, fat liar.

      • Sackem says:

        Have a think about the opening credits. At some point, there was meant to be a vow renewal between Jac and Chris because they married in a park or something. Teresa and Joe got offered the same thing -possibly by Bravo or possibly in a magazine and they did it. The details are hazy to me but there was blog chatter (not always to be believed) that a vow renewal was up. Is this one of the opportunities taken away from Jac? If anyone has anything more concrete than conjecture, I’d love to know!!!

  30. @JoyCashJoy tweeted that Chris Stark is being looked for because of cyber stalking???? It was retweeted by one of Melissa’s crazy famewhore sisters.

    • Jeannie5233 says:

      I saw that too – I was reading Chris’ TL so I clicked over to JoyCashJoy’s TL and not only has it been retweeted JoyCashJoy has been tweeting back and forth with Chris Stark,accusing her of stalking and being abusive, has dug up a youtube video on her, is doing research and investigating Chris’ past; demanding a signed statment from a reporter that Chris is not wanted for stalking or something like that – I couldn’t follow it – and then JoyCashJoy will be reporting back to the Gorgas as well as Lysa and Kim whatever is found to be used in legal action. As of about 5 mins ago, it was still going on. Also looks like Queenz of Media may be involved as well and they are nasty. They told Chris the other night that the gloves were off. Looks like its getting really ugly.

      • Sackem says:

        Who’s JoyCashJoy and why should she care??? How has Chris been stalking? They’ve opened their twitter to the public. Seriously? This is disgusting.

        • hoolie says:

          I don’t know Chris Stark from a hole in the wall, but my impressions of this lady is that she is pretty damn smart and knows how to cover her tracks legitmately. Go Chris and may God protect you!

          • twitterfiend says:

            I saw the beginning of these tweets so I went to see who this Joy person was and I saw that he/she only had about thirty followers, one being Melissa Gorga, and following almost fifty with under 150 tweets. Once I saw this I knew that this person has a new account and is probably doing some dirty work for Melissa to try and get Chris to be quiet!

          • gessiewtf says:

            That is how they roll. They try to drive off twitter anybody that tells the truth about them and falsely accuses them of twitter stalking to get them banned. Chris Stark did nothing wrong by dig up a document that is public record. If the twitter police mess with her, I will be pissed. Cyber stalking, indeed. Losers.

    • Kate says:

      That’s ridiculous. There’s a huge difference between investigative journalist (whether that is your official job title or your hobby) and stalker. Even if Melissa or her sisters wasted their time filing a report, there is no way it would ever be taken seriously. People track down celebrities’ criminal records and tweet/blog about it all the time. For some people it’s a job. Melissa is just desperate to throw people off her trail, she would make any empty threat to try and get people to stop digging around her past, lest they find the truth about her.

  31. Brynn says:

    I noticed at times tonight Jac was at times laughing, smiling, and nodding with Tre and Joe like they were friends in a good way. Then flipped the switch. Sorry didnt really know how to describe it. In the beginning of tonights episode I thought Jac just seemed to have a clear daze look going on. Im not tryingto be mean or pick on anyone, but I was really thinkin to myself she did not look well.

  32. dunnwrightpr says:

    Did anyone else think Jac’s response to Teresa accusing Chris of cheating was a confirmation that Chris did in fact cheat on Jac?! Her response was, “if we are being honest…” and claimed Juicy cheated on Tre. To me, Jac admitted she was cheated on with that statement!! Why would being honest come into play if Chris didn’t cheat?!

    • Jenna says:

      What I found interesting was how Caroline didn’t step in to defend her brother if the accusations weren’t true….

    • hoolie says:

      Yep, I noted that when they clips were online before ep aired. Confirmed to me that she was admitting he stepped out on her.

  33. Rosalie Marie, says:

    Fame, I have many photos I took of Teresa Giudice’ during her visit and book signing at the Baltimore Book Festival. I also took photos of the crowd of fans she has. If you would like to see them, let me know and I’ll send them to you. The photos of the crowd of people who were there are wonderful! It’s amazing how many people showed up to see Teresa. I would say around 200.
    If you’re interested to view them, let me know.

    • Rosalie Marie, says:

      I will say this about meeting Teresa, she is a kind, patient, beautiful woman. She is everything you see on television, appearance and personality, and more. She gives each and every person her undivided attention. She doesn’t care what’s going on around her, she will focus only on that person. She’s very nice. She was running late for her train but that didn’t stop her from signing each and every book, taking photos, and listening to her fans. There is nothing fake about Teresa. I tell you what, I left that book signing feeling so happy!
      The reason I’m sharing my story here is because the women on NJ are making Teresa sound like some mean villain. Let me just say, words and actions and how you treat people in general say a lot about a person’s character. Teresa is NOTHING like those women are trying to portray of her.

      It’s my understanding, people who met Caroline have said that she keeps a distance from her fans. I don’t know if it’s true or not but I heard she ropes people off and keeps a wide table between she and her fans. That speaks volumes about Caroline if this is true. It means she doesn’t think much of people and feels superior to them. Teresa Is Nothing Like Caroline!

      Fame, if you’ve never met Teresa at her book signings, You Need To Go! You will be so happy you did and you will realize just how sweet Teresa is. She’s a good woman.

      • hold on, caro-clown has fans???? seriously???

      • Godiva says:

        I agree with you Rosalie Marie. I helped organize an event in my town for Teresa and her first book. The owner and staff of the venue found her absolutely delightful. She is a genuine “people person” who is naturally curious about others and she was also gracious, warm and laid back. It was a very successful event, and by all accounts, the fans were also quite pleased.

        • Ellen says:

          Remember what Arsenio Hall said about Teresa on CA. He picked her on his final team (which won) because he wanted someone pleasant on his team. That says a lot. She was delightful on the show.

    • bravofan says:

      well I know I would love to see them, post them up, maybe fame can then make an article around them

    • Fame says:

      RM, I sent you an e-mail. I’d love to see the photos.

  34. SunnyAZ_1 says:

    Am I the only one disgusted & left speechless by Melissa’s excuse as to why she wants to move? Because she doesn’t want her children going to the same school as their cousins. Melissa is beyond words. Move over Teresa, now she’s on to your kids….

    • when we all know the real reason-spec house & they can’t afford it…..liar liar pants on fire me-ho couldn’t tell the truth if her life depended on it,

      • Fame says:

        So true!

        Welcome to FW JKK. Your comments were held in queue since it was your first time posting, and I wasn’t able to get to them earlier. Your comments will be automatically posted from now on.

    • twitterfiend says:

      You are not alone!! When I heard her say that she doesn’t want Antonia to get “ganged up on” by her cousins I was DISGUSTED!!!! Those children love each other and should not be used as an excuse in this mess. Then to hear that they don’t even go to the same school really made me look at her like she was a fool and Caroline with her “yeah but they will in junior high” comment, like seriously!!!

      • Ellen says:

        That excuse was disgusting and pathetic. She obviously made it up as a story to convince her husband to move. Her moving is just an attempt to isolate her husband and children from Teresa. Maybe, one day Joey Gorga will wake up. Let’s face it, bitches like her usually get their way with their husbands. He def is insecure in their relationship. He probably did meet her as a stripper and was never able to fully believe her got this hot woman. She is not a selfless mother. Her scenes are usually about her. The Gorgas basically destroyed their son’s christening for fame. Joe had to act like an animal towards Teresa in the first episode.

        Kathy is just a regular nobody. Now that she chopped off her face, she looks like a generic nobody too. No one ever addressed Mel’s obvious nose job. For her it actually looks good, but Kathy…not so much. She literally cut off her nose to spite her face.

        • Sackem says:

          So Antonia’s tears about loving her cousins and all the hugs from Milania were part of the script – dang they’ve trained their children well.

    • gessiewtf says:

      That was sickeout as low as you can go as a human being. Yes, Audriana is going to grow up and bully her cousins. How about because your bullshit music career has made him a broke ass. I never saw a man so p**y whipped in my life. It’s like he doesn’t have an independent mind. I’m sorry Teresa, but he is a low class guy who married a low class girl and I am sure your mother saw that the min. he crossed the thresh hold with her. Her sisters are hard-core thugs. That whole family saw a guy with a little bit of money and glommed onto him like an octopus with tentacles. They live vicariously through Melissa. Melissa is a gold digger. And anybody with the damn proof of this now is the time to spill your guts. NOW!!!!

  35. Godiva says:

    This whole situation is very sad. If Melissa was not an obvious narcissistic, materialistic famewhore, Teresa would have a sister-in-law that she would consider a best friend.

  36. Karen says:

    I am more convinced than ever that Melissa and Kathy came on the show to attempt to destroy Teresa (or take her down a few pegs). Teresa had been on the show for two years and knew the inner and outer workings of a reality tv show and knew that drama is created and secrets are exposed and did not want that to happen — which means she was trying to keep her family safe from that toxic environment. Melissa and Kathy did not care. Was Teresa also being territorial? Probably, but that’s human nature. I believe Teresa wanted a relationship with her brother but her brother is so mesmerized/manipulated by Melissa that that is just not going to be possible. No brother would allow a sister that he loved to endure the emotional abuse that he has witnessed happen to Teresa. He simply cannot love her and allow that to go on. Also, if Melissa and Kathy’s intentions were pure in coming on the show, why the secrecy? Also, doesn’t anyone find it odd that Teresa and Joe’s parents have very little or nothing to do with Joe and Melissa and their children? Something is very wrong there. Parents do not abandon or alienate their own children or grandchildren on a whim.

    Melissa said on the show that she likes feeling up the body parts of other women. Huh? In what universe is that normal when you are a married woman with three children?

    Kathy looks like a transsexual. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but she looks less like a woman now than she did before she had surgery.

    • Fame says:

      Great post Karen. Welcome to FW! Sorry your comment was awaiting moderation so long… I wasn’t able to check them earlier.

    • Ellen says:

      Mel is a freaking jerk. She felt up Tre saying her implants felt like rocks. I almost think she feels up other women in order to compare her own body and feel superior.

    • Sackem says:

      Joe Gorga says it himself, Teresa was too busy with her children to pay attention to him when Antonia came along which put his nose out, have a vindictive wife whispering in your ear, as seen – shame on you, Teresa stating that Dina etc were like family season 1/2 and boom, you have a petulant child handing out free passes to attack his sister. Who’s the attention seeker? He’s actually not to bright himself and easily swayed.

  37. Sackem says:

    Anyone ever notice how Andy Cohen never tweets Teresa… he chimes in on the other ladies’ accounts.

  38. WindyCityWondering says:

    Round Two goes to Teresa! She is bringing what Andy wants. She is basically marginalizing Melissa and Melissa is losing her cool and has been reduced to making snide comments. She is a victim of her own delusions and failed attempts to “take Teresa down”! The only card Melissa has left is to bring out her horrible husband to use Teresa’s love for him against her. Pathetic.
    Between Melissa’s acting and Kathy’s total disrespect of the senior Gorgas and her thuggy beast sister Rosie – Teresa didn’t break up her family, Her family showed their true colors and Teresa is smart to stay away from them – who will they film with now? Teresa is done with them so if they continue to trash her – who really cares to hear that?

    • Fame says:

      “She is basically marginalizing Melissa and Melissa is losing her cool and has been reduced to making snide comments.”

      Great observation WCW.

  39. Squeezy says:

    Looking up a public record on someone who has made it their life’s mission to become a public figure and making it public knowledge is basis for stalking? PUH-lease.
    Wouldn’t it be funny if the arrest was for shoplifting a fuzzy pink sweater and cross necklace?
    I love how the questionable public office position Al had has NeVER been discussed.

      • gessiewtf says:

        Maybe that’s where the diamond cross came from. Wouldn’t that be rich. I wou;d like to know how a poor “college student” who has to work three jobs in order to get buy, gets the money for breast implants. They are not very useful when teaching second graders how to write in cursive.

  40. Karen says:

    A couple of other things, as someone mentioned above, Jacqueline did not deny Chris cheated on her…she simply plowed onto detailing all of Joe’s alleged infidelities. Also, when Caroline asked Andy if he thought she was a bully, he DID NOT answer her question. He skillfully refused to answer by moving the conversation along to something else. Lastly, Kathy claims she is old school and believes in respect. What happened to that respect in regards to Teresa’s parents? The reunion did not shine kindly on either Kathy or Melissa. They are proving Teresa’s point of coming on the show solely to destroy her. Too bad it isn’t working.

  41. Teresa had her moments on Pt2 . . . particularly loved when she “dismissed” Kathy (which Kathy picked up on immediately calling T “mean girl” lol) but just wish she would have taken this tone with all the bitches. She DID have a flavor of “bringing the drama like a good employee” that I found distasteful – thinking here of her OTT on the knees “thank you God” moment and the whole demanding Melissa sing thing went on far too long and did her no favors – plus seemed forced. Teresa is at her best when she is totally being herself – flaws and all – there is no need for her to take the drama up a notch like her pathetic castmates.

    On WWHL, AC claims they had no idea at the time what Rosie was actually saying but surely they did by the time they mic’ed up this hosebeast and brought her on set? Also on WWHL the continuous blather of WendyW for Teresa to leave the show/television/reality tv was strange! (ummm she is BRAVO’s cash cow, right?) I had no doubt that AC/Bravo had planted this targeted tact for their Wendy-puppet but couldn’t understand WHY until coming here . . . do you agree with the poster above Fame, that it’s due to salary/contract negotiations with Teresa? Or are they distancing themselves intentionally due to the obvious bullying/conflict with the NoH8 campaign? . . . OR . . . maybe distancing in case there would be a tragedy of Russell-like proportions? (Rosie actually does attempt to attack/cut out tongue/rip head off/kill Teresa? Joe Giudice does become suicidal/homicidal?) Otherwise I just don’t get the bias. AC embraced money maker Bethennnnney when Jill attempted to organize a gang up – why not Teresa? And if it’s due to AC’s personal opinion/dislike of the Giudice’s – wouldn’t corporate overrule him? ($$$$$$)

    Teresa’s next paid interview should definitely be along the lines that she had no idea the vicious threats Rosie was making backstage until the episode aired last nite. (True or not) I also think it would be great publicity, and maybe even a legitimate move for her to be down at the police station TODAY, a copy of the Reunion in hand, swearing out a restraining order on her whack-job cousin! Fuck being a “good employee” Teresa! I get that she may not be able to go after BRAVO (or even want to) due to contracts signed by all in the cast (any lawyers out there?) but surely after the threats broadcasted, she could rightfully go after Rosie as an individual?

    • Fame says:

      I didn’t watch WWHL and am just now reading the commments posted since it aired last night. It is strange that Andy is giving Wendy a platform for saying it is time for Teresa to leave reality TV. Your theory about salary negotiations makes sense… these women sell themselves to Bravo for very small salaries (compared to other TV personalities), and then Bravo demands a cut of their product sales, etc. Perhaps Teresa went it with a huge salary demand for season 5, which she should, and ticked off the network. It is obvious to many, and has been confirmed by JerseyGirl’s roommate who works for WWHL, that Andy hates Teresa. I’m glad Teresa isn’t letting anyone run her off and is returning for season 5. I hope she demanded a huge salary increase because this could be her final season. In season 5, she needs to suck up to the producers like the others do, or else she’ll get another bad edit. I hope she hires a good agent who can negotiate a show for her on another network.

    • Kate says:

      In Teresa’s blog about reunion part one, she did actually state that she had no idea who was screaming or what they were saying until after she had seen the reunion show air. She said she actually thought it was her brother screaming at the time.

    • Sackem says:

      There was a mic on her for us to hear that clearly. If not the sound would have been more distant and echoie, why didn’t we hear any other conversations in the background. At some point, she was switched on – literally, there is a switch to activate the pack, if she started, it would have taken a second to switch it on assuming she was mic’ed up reading to go on for the next segment which isn’t a stretch … there are no hold ups on set…. you can hear someone say “she’s walking”. If there was a boom mic it would have been on set. These are directional mics designed to pick up what they are pointing at. Teresa herself had to question who was shouting, Melissa told Andy who it was when she said Rosie’s going to kill her. Why would they miss that drama?

    • gessiewtf says:

      Second week in a row they had an anti-Teresa guest on. Coincidence? I think not. Joe Guidice won’t play the game of bullshit. I love him. Andy was determined to humiliate him. It only made me love him more. By the way, my brother (I love him, but not too sharp) was charged with burning a Rolls Royce and a spec house, income tax evasion and buying and selling stolen goods. About 20 yrs. ago. He did 6 months in a country club. Half of the people in Miami are running around with fake I.D.’s and committing voter fraud with them, and the only thing thst happens to them is they get them taken away. I’m going to be seriously pissed if Joe doesn’t get a fair trial. He was just trying to get to work. I know it was wrong, but he has a clean record. I hope he receives a fair trial. It is time for this nightmare to end. I know Bravo is salivating at the thought of him going to prison, which is why they filmed season 2 and three back to back. Now that he has had a postponement, they must be pissed.

  42. bravofan says:

    bravo blog responses are so rigged…I make a post anything positive for teresa never gets posted, but they post up the slam teresa one that calls her “crazy”. muah

    • Silvia says:

      actually there must be at least one moderator with a common sense – I have found posts on melissa’s blog regarding – cat rodridgez – they posted full name…few more posts about shoplifting.. I was really surprised they posted that. My comments were always in a waiting period and now they are being posted almost immediately. I guess they want to build this up for the new season – the more attention this HW series will get the better – for bravo that is.

  43. And ANOTHER thing – but not trying to be a Thread-hog here lol – I’ve posted on this and other forums that I just didn’t understand how Gorga the Elder could prefer a son IN LAW to his only and baby son JoeGo. (As reported and evidenced @ The Christening.) I do get that Joe Giudice appears to be a “mans man” – not to mention commands a certain respect from not only the shrew women of this series, their husbands but also from Andy himself! (Qualifier>when face to face/in Joe Gi’s presence – we all know behind his back is a whole different story – see Chris Laurita’s “man meeting” b4 Napa trip, as an example lol.) sooooooooooo . . . >

    I was clicking around this fab site, and refreshing myself on the National Enquirer expose interview with the alleged former lesbian lover of Melissa and also viewed the pics and recaps of Joe Gorga’s “man pond” alleged dalliances and “gay behavior” I’ve witnessed myself for two seasons . . . when a EUREKA moment hit me>>That’s WHY Gorga the Elder doesn’t like his son and prefers Joe Giu – he cannot accept his son is gay! (Which I think is awful btw, and if true, I’m sad for JoeGo.) I think the closest Elder Gorga could come to articulating this was @ The Christening when he made the somewhat out of place comment about JoeGo being a “Mama’s Boy” (I blamed editing at the time – couldn’t see the correlation between “YOU”RE MY FUCKING FATHER” and that response.) It follows that JoeGo is seriously f’ckd up from no doubt the heavy pressure to repress and explains so much: His desperate need of approval from his Father, his over the top “sexuality”/braggadocio and on camera sexual demands from his wife . . . and in a way, it also explains what some have called an “unnatural closeness” between him and his sister Teresa, who I’m sure was very protective of her baby brother and who in turn then, idolized his big sis in every way, including fashion. *see Halloween costume as Teresa*

    The dynamic of the Gorga Family would undoubtedly be a pressure cooker for the young JoeGo – filling him with rage – *see attempted rape allegation* to not only appear “manly” but to also pro-create and produce sons. It may actually be a good thing for him to have been accepted and integrated into the Marco Family and makes it easier to understand how he can reject his own Family and seemingly be so callous toward his parents and by extension, Teresa.

  44. Bj says:

    Note to self do not go to radaronline anymore all they do is post negative things about tre and if u post something positive it’s like going into the lions den and getting ur head torn off

  45. adioslunatic says:

    Hi All!!! I’m, posting this on all sites that are Teresa friendly.

    First thing: Those of you that have been supporting Teresa and Juicy, take heart! I am going to break down why you should feel vindicated in your beliefs. Your level of perception is acute and is to be commended. This is NOT a judgement of those that have had a difficult time understanding those that have been stead-fast in their support of Teresa and Juicy. You have been deceived on a grand scale. You are of the belief that others would not lie, deceive and destroy an other’s integrity, good name or, God forbid! a family. It is beyond your understanding that anyone with a human heart could construct such a horrible scenario. You, as well, should be proud! It is the rule that most people cannot conceive of others doing what they themselves could never conceive of; let alone execute that plan on an international stage. It is my belief that Bravo has, with the aid of production, constructed the finest tragedy since Shakespeare; the most intriguing “who dun it” since Hitchcock.

    Why do I say this? Bravo and those that work for Bravo, are first and foremost businessmen with a flare for theater. They want to make money and, being artists, they want to expose truth. They do not leave much to chance. Though they may hold personal beliefs that at times can blind them to certain things, there are just some things you cannot turn a blind eye. They are privy to so much more. They are there interacting with these families on nearly a daily basis for months out of the year. They KNOW these people. Far before the very first show airing they saw the manipulations of those trying to claim their 15 minutes of fame. Whether it was cast members, family members of the cast, friends of the cast, make-up artists, hair stylists,wardrobe stylists, personal trainers, boutique owners and any one else within the state of New Jersey. They are hyper aware of what the seduction of fame and fortune will/has made a person do/expose.

    I am SURE they saw Teresa’s star-power potential, even if she was not aware of it herself; she lived in her brother’s shadow for so long I truly believe she was not aware of the dynamic person she held within but those around her could easily see it and the audience certainly did. By Andy’s own admission, it took Teresa 10 months of debating whether to sign onto the show. Is this the thought process of a Diva? Do we think ANY of these other women had the same hesitations? No, which has been proven as well. Even with all the skeletons rattling around in their closets? Still no. That is where personality disorders play a huge part of this whole scenario. They think they can outsmart/out fight/outlast everyone. They have been able to do this a good part of their lives because, when confronted with these type of people, the mentally strong will eventually remove themselves from that person’s life and be done. Those that are not as emotionally strong will cling to the narcissist and become one of their strongest supports, hoping to gain an identity for themselves through them, the hangers on, so to speak, the entourage.

    You may ask why more of these people are not exposed by those that have been affected by their machinations. They keep quiet because they know what this type of person is capable. They also know that the narcissist is the master of manipulation, deflection and projection. The narcissist has been fine tuning their skills from a young age; they are a force to be reckoned with, and their lives would be ruined before the truth would be exposed, if ever. They know this because they themselves were seduced by the narcissist in their never ending quest of dominance.

    Bravo had a highly popular break out star. They also saw that the personal life of that star had suffered set-backs, BIG ones, and those set-backs were being dissected at a time when the economy was tanking and the general public could not understand what the reasons really were that there was a global meltdown happening. The country was divided into those who were proudly saying “I pay my bills”, those that had to manipulate the system and had received a get out of jail free card, and those without malice or forethought, who had been affected with a financial meltdown of their own simply from a lack of savvy in business or in personal finances. Teresa and Juicy fell into the third category but were perceived by some (with mountains of misinformation, innuendo and some outright lies) to fall into the second category.

    Still with me? Okay, good!

    Bravo saw all of this but knew that Teresa and Juicy were good people. They knew they still had a huge audience of those that wanted to see them pull out of the mess and were willing to support Teresa and Juicy and their girls by buying Teresa’s products and watching RHONJ. They also new that their was another faction of viewers that viewed Teresa and Juicy from the other perspective; the more insidious perspective.

    Does Bravo chance loosing one of those factions by going for full support of Teresa and Juicy and risk loosing a good chunk of viewers to “do the right thing” by portraying Teresa and Juicy’s predicament in a true light? Nope, gotta make the money…hmmmmmmm, what do we do? Bring on an nemesis that they are pretty much guaranteed will make Teresa and Juicy look good in comparison — that would be able to feed the faction of the Teresa and Juicy haters — but would eventually expose themselves. Bravo knew, with the help of all us here and on other blogs, us viewers would be doing our due diligence and WE would expose them for the truly horrible people that they are: the phony, soul-less lowlifes they had already proven themselves to be to Bravo. They also saw Teresa and Juicy on the path to correcting their mistakes and that they had stumbled on that path, again, not out of malice but out of panic and lack of knowledge. That of which would add to the intrigue of the question of whether or not Teresa and Juicy are the good guys.

    Bravo thought this would all play out in one season, but when it did not, they continued to let the cameras roll into the next season. I believe that after next week’s reunion show, it will all come to the fore. Bravo will recast RHONJ with others willing to expose themselves, and the Gorgas will fall and Teresa will be cast on her own show and will be able to showcase to the world what an awesome person, mother, wife and yes, friend she truly is.

    Anderson, WW and even Perez are part of the show. If you you listen to them, they do expose their true feelings. Perez has come over from the dark side realizing he was so angry, not with others but, with himself, and now wants to redeem all the nastiness he has put out into the world. People would have questioned why he was on WWHL, so AC pulled out the SPJ apology. PH (as well as WW) has lost his weight with the hard work and determination Lauren and her other family members should have. They have the means to eat well, exercise, and, if they loved each other in a healthy way, would have been each others cheerleaders. PH and WW do not think this is something that should be portrayed as the way to a healthy life, and should never be performed on those not morbidly obese. And WW and PH do see Teresa as the good person she is — Teresa was smiling through all the WW arrows (of which there weren’t many, and those she flung were to keep the WHOLE audience intrigued; WW realizes she has the same mix of audience). People that are wont to dislike Teresa could interpret Teresa smiling through the insult as her being dimwitted; which she is not, she just lacks formal education but, she could teach all of us quite a few lessons. My interpretation was Teresa knew WW had to throw a few digs in — she is a good employee, remember?

    Now, Anderson and Kelly Ripa and Hubby are all dear friends of Andy. I think the trip to Croatia was a strategy meeting. Ripa showed empathy for Teresa (she was always her favorite) while her husband said, quite tellingly, he was “Team Gorga” throwing in “even if they’re wrong”. Anderson had Jac on (Bravo is on to her charade; they are around that little boy and realize he is not what Jac wants you to think; I think Ashlee was shipped off because she would not be able to hold back from exposing her mother, who had been using her as her soldier while simultaneously going out of her way to make Ashlee look terrible — the ultimate FU to her mother; her vindication for being the subject of such hate that her OWN MOTHER orchestrated.) Jac, as she is want to do, proved what an idiot she is, and all Anderson had to do is sit back and let ‘er rip! He is not a stupid man. He saw that JAC acted like a twelve year old but could not call out the mother of an “autistic son”; and being that his audience had been exposed to her, many of which probably don’t even watch RHONJ, would be offend by if he had.

    If you can, watch last nights WWHL again. I believe it is the first time they used canned laughter. Listen to what WW is saying, there is MOUNTAINS of subtext going on. WW does love Teresa, that humongous cannoli cake was a not a gesture that you make to someone you do not love. WW gets it and that is why we LOVE her, but, she also gets show biz….

    • Fame says:

      adioslunatic, you are on to something here… your theory fills in a lot of holes. I sent you an e-mail.

    • RHONJ FAN says:

      Jacqueline’s son’s autism should have never been part of the reunion as it was never a part of the story line for season4! Bravo along with Jacqueline and Chris Laurita agreed to publicly speak about Nicholas because Jacqueline would be able to gain sympathy from fans!!! Jacqueline has manipulated the autistic organizations in order to gain sympathy! I don’t feel sorry for her one bit!!!

    • Viestepia80 says:

      I hope you are right! I really hope Teresa succeeds after this at least for the sake of her girls. They have no fault in this mess that was created thanks to their uncle & and his wife & katfish.

    • isolde says:

      I want to say that all of your observations are very astute, and make sense. I believe that the scenarios you laid out, may very well have taken place, and were put into action. However, the issue that I have with the friends of Andy Cohen, who are also in the business, and have their own shows, is that they all state publicly, that they are “Team Gorga”, and their opinions have an influence on their viewers. In turn, they indirectly and directly, reward the bad behavior of the Gorgas by condoning their actions. By saying they are “Team Gorga”, they are encouraging Melissa and Joe Gorga, (and the Marco family and other cohorts) to continue with their bad behavior (the lies, bashing family, scheming, defaming Teresa’s reputation, hurting the elder Gorgas and the Gorga/Giudice children). I could go on and on about the damage that the Gorgas are doing.

      I could care less if Melissa wants to pursue a “singing career”. Personally, I don’t believe she is that talented, but I don’t buy her music or support her in any way. If that was their only agenda on the show of being famous and being celebrities and making money, then the endorsement of media hosts, wouldn’t bother me. However, that is not their only agenda. Their agenda from the first episode that they were on the show, was that of fighting with, bashing Teresa to her face and behind her back. The fact that Joe Gorga called his sister garbage, and pounded his fist on the table, and allowed his sister-in-law (Lysa) insult his sister, started that whole brawl at his son’s christening. Honestly, who does something like that. It was more important to insult his sister to bring the drama, than to be hospitable and cordial with his sister. Also, when I found out that Melissa had conversations with Danielle Staub, in order to deliberately hurt her sister-in-law, I can’t think of anything more underhanded and malicious than that. Despite Teresa’s aggressiveness, this is not something she would have done to her brother. She does have more loyalty and shows more love to her family than that, no matter what has taken place between them. I guess my point is, that they have both sniped at one another, and played a tit for tat game, but Teresa has not taken things to such a despicable level. Joe Gorga had no problem doing these things, or being aware of these things, that I cannot believe that anyone could say that they are Team Gorga. Their behavior has been too hurtful, and over the top, for anyone with any morals and integrity to think that it is excusable. When you have media personalities taking sides and influencing their audiences, the Gorgas will use that as permission to continue acting the way that they have. At the very least, I felt that media personnel who I had some respect for, should have said, “I am on no one’s team, because they have all behaved poorly and hurtful, and they all need to stop being petty, malicious and hurtful”.

      I would expect stirring the pot, and acceptance of the Gorga behavior, from the tabloid media, but not from respectable media personnel. I would not expect it from an employer, as well. Therefore, the fact that Andy Cohen, Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos, Wendy Williams and Anderson Cooper, have taken sides and encourage or condone what Melissa and Joe Gorga have done, but condemned Teresa and Joe Giudice, is appalling and disappointing beyond words. I will not watch their shows any longer, because I have lost respect for them, as a result of their comments and their bias. The Giudices are no saints, and I realize that, but their behavior has been more mild and tame, considering the lengths that the Gorgas have gone to. Melissa Gorga, said on the second installment of the reunion show, that “she is moving, so that her children do not attend the same school as their cousins, the Giudice children (they don’t even attend the same school) because they might bully her children because of the strained relationship, and bash their mother. This comment is a horrible thing to say, since the Giudice children have been nothing but very loving to their cousins, and all the children love to be with one another. Her comment clearly shows that she cares nothing about these children having a relationship with one another. Melissa claims that she wants the family to fix their family for everyone’s sake, but especially because of the elder Gorgas, and the children. Obviously, she is lying, and people will say they are Team Gorga. I would put aside, and have done so, any issues with my in-laws and relatives, for the sake of my children, because their happiness is of the utmost importance to me.

      I realize that networks and hosts are also in the business of making money, but I also believe that they have a responsibility, especially if they are credible media, to be unbiased. I believe that they should call out everyone for setting poor examples as role models. The bullying that went on this season of RHONJ was despicable. The very idea that someone would say that anyone, and in this case, Teresa, cannot be bullied, because she is a strong woman, is absurd. Teresa is responsible for responding in kind, but she has been pushed all season long by the entire cast and the producers of the show. People are now speculating that Teresa is being treated this way by Bravo and media friends of Andy Cohen, because they either want her to leave the show, or because of salary negotiations. This is despicable and shows that there are no boundaries for tactics used against this woman. None, not by the cast, not by the producers, not by the executives, and now not by outside media personnel. It has become– a by any means necessary–situation. Please know that I don’t give Teresa or her husband, a pass for their poor behavior, but if we the viewers have witnessed all the scheming, lies and manipulation that has gone into this past season, the network executives and friends know about it as well. They know even more than we do, as they have seen all the footage that was filmed, and have had meetings discussing the situation on the show, and had meetings with the cast. There should be no favoritism because of gender, race and even sexual orientation. We all know this is unconstitutional and illegal. The sexual content of the show has hit an all time low, and the Giudices have indulged in this as well, this season more than others, but the sexual comments and behavior of the Gorgas and the Wakiles(to a lesser degree) is downright immature and perverted. Couple this with all the damage inflicted to Teresa and her reputation, by way of insults, back stabbing and lies, has been deliberate and excessive.

      I know who I will support and why, and I am not asking anyone to be Team Giudice, I am asking that they treat this woman with some dignity and respect. I am asking that they not deliberately and blatantly play with this woman’s life for their pleasure, their envy, or their ratings. I am asking that they don’t condone or gloss over the poor behavior of the cast, and make excuses for them. No one should get a pass because they claim to be menopausal, hormonal, have a child with a disability, have financial stresses or are ill. I fall into some of these categories more than some of these women do, and I don’t get a pass for being nasty or plotting against someone to hurt them, nor should I. If it is a reality show, then there should not be anything fake or contrived about the show or the people on the show. The employers, employees affiliated with the show in any way, or industry media should not try to skew the show or sway the viewers in what to believe. No one should be deliberately set up for drama and ratings. No one affiliated with the show or affiliated with employees of the network should deliberately try to ruin someone’s reputation. If the cast fail to be honorable because that is their character, the network, its employees and other media connected to the network or its employees; should retain integrity, honesty, fairness, and neutrality. They should hold everyone to the same standards. There should be a zero tolerance policy for bullying, brutality, and threats of physical harm (the threatening rants of physical harm by Rosie Pierri to Teresa Giudice in part 1 of the season 4 reunion were graphic, disturbing and inexcusable, and then she was brought on stage, called lovable, and was not admonished in any way). There should be accountability, and we should demand it. No one should be asked whose team are you on, because it is black and white, about what is right and wrong, when it comes to the behavior of mature adults.

      If this does not become, or is not the standard of integrity and fair play, by the show and the cast, the network and its employees, or friends of the employees in the industry; then we, the viewers should not continue to support the show, the business endeavors of the cast, and especially the network and the sponsors of the show.

      • Fame says:

        Excellent points isolde. It’s a shame that the children are being brought into this mess.

      • staceychris says:

        extremely well stated – agree 100%

      • A fan of Fame says:

        Wish you could send this to Bravo and the other talk shows you mentioned. Anderson Cooper disappointed me the most, i thought he was a journalist, not a gossip.

  46. PinkPumps01 says:

    T just wrote a blog on her personal website about Melissa’s accusing T of calling Antonia ugly…http://www.teresagiudice.com/home/2012/10/8/my-darling-beautiful-niece.html

    Melissa’s response to T’s via Twitter below:

    Melissa Gorga ‏@melissagorga

    Did T seriously write a whole lying blog about my daughter? This is why I’m moving. Always about her. #enoughalready
    12:24 PM – 8 Oct 12 · Details

  47. Hoda says:

    Did anyone heard that Jax in a prieview told katfish to close her legs because she didn’t want to smell that fish! So funny….

  48. Sackem says:

    Melissa Gorga ‏@melissagorga
    Did T seriously write a whole lying blog about my daughter? This is why I’m moving. Always about her. #enoughalready

    • Sackem says:

      http://www.teresagiudice.com/

      …And now to watch the episode

      • Sackem says:

        Nooooo It’s not up yet!

        • Jeannie5233 says:

          Hey Sackem – I just read Teresa’s beautiful letter on her website – it is gut wrenching and heart breaking. How Melissa could possibly tweet that is beyond imaginable. Really – enough is enough. When are these people going to stop? Is it ever going to stop?

          • Sackem says:

            I think Melissa expects blood. I don’t know what else will satisfy her at this point. There’s a lot of negativity on the blogs for Teresa (I went back to Reality Tea… whoops), she’s being slain in the media leading to degradation of her image and her livelihood threatened, her marriage has been questioned, she no longer has a relationship with her brother basically the only thing she’s got is spirit – I think Melissa wants her to break which is just heinous. I think Melissa can’t stand to see her smile. It’s one of the only things that haven’t been dragged through the media or attacked.

          • Sackem says:

            PS Maybe that’s why she’s attracting so much hate, because she’s staying strong outwardly at least….. Why do people want to see this woman a mess?

          • gessiewtf says:

            When you think about it it is obviously a made up comment to stir up hate. Nobody would ever call Antonia ugly because she is absolutely gorgeous by anybody’s standards. She should have done it with one of the boys, maybe she could have gotten away with the lie then. This crazy-ass bitch is on the warpath like never before. I may have said it before, but calling all New Jerseyans! If you have anything on Melissa, this includes Penny and the Greeks, now is the time, people! She is just making this shit up as she goes along to try to get Teresa fired. Time to stand up for what is right and what is wrong. There are a lot of people out ther who know the truth. Time to tell it. All of it. Let’s go! Bullying by a network executive and an entire cast is unexceptable. Thet tell random lies about Teresa and get away with it. It isn’t right. Stand up for what is right and don’t be intimidated by the Gorga’s.
            They don’t have the funds to threaten 100 different people at once. C’mon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Silvia says:

            I think they (including mell) have already tried all the tricks in a book called “let’s bring teresa down” but she is so resiliant and still standing strong and getting even stronger and attracting more fans, so last stop is to use own kids what else is there to us as an attack? ( same with jacko) it was a low blow for sure and I love that T has responded to it. It is true and honesty versus wanna be and phony. Their own actions are backfiring on them big time and it is hard to take. Mellisa is using one lie to back up her other lies – T said Antonia is ugly – that’s why we are moving ….One would think those two hypocrites will at least take time to explain themselfs to their “fans” on a bravo blogs . How telling is that?

  49. stacey says:

    Do people really think she is really moving because of Teresa? There kids do not go to the same school!!!

    • Sackem says:

      Teresa says that in her blog. I think it’s a convenient excuse… the house went on the market ages ago. It was on the market 2009… I think because it was a spec home

      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/category/gorgas-dont-pay-their-bills/

      • Sackem says:

        PS, If that house is fully furnished and amazing, we haven’t really seen much of it. We’ve seen a lot of everyone else’s houses. For such a “huge” house I kinda though it was weird to eat in the foyer for christmas, I mean it certainly could have been the best fit but I found it strange. Don’t you think with all the bragging Melissa has done, there would have been a spread in some magazine further inside her house? She always goes to other people’s houses… I dunno it’s just weird.

        • Silvia says:

          another good point. great observation. in all those seasons Mell has been in, we say foyer, her in her bedroom . oh and here and there we see her “in the closet”….;-)

          • Silvia says:

            sorry – we saw

          • Sackem says:

            Yeah, heaps of sitting on the front steps this season… surely their backyard would be amazing for a dream house. I know we don’t see much of Teresa’s yard – the always sit on the Italian concrete which I think is gold -for cultural reasons!

  50. crazygrl00 (@crazygrl00) says:

    I think wacojacko blocked me on twitter …I’ve never been blocked before but it said that her tweets are protected and only certain ppl can view her tweets.
    anyways mego is far from a victim!!! Ok well she is a victim of not being able to tell the truth &jealousy. How can joe not see that his wife is the devil? He’s hurting over his sister…no he’s not hurting he posted a tweet that mego’s sisters are all that he needd or something like that. SHAME ON YOU BOTH!!

  51. Calypso says:

    When Andy tells Juicy his wife is a very popular lady, they cut to Jac and she gives Andy a look. Then Andy goes on to talk about Celeb Apprentice and they cut to Melissa and she gives the camera a dull eyed twitch of a forced smile. I can’t say there was much of the Reunion worth watching but those 2 moments were priceless. I don’t care if they played cut and paste with their reactions – it had to hurt to hear it. If a black cloud had a silver lining, this would be it. Here’s to finding joy in the little things.

  52. RHONJ FAN says:

    Caroline aggressively asked Teresa when she has bullied her? And, Teresa responded “the whole season”; Let me be a bit more specific:

    1. When you gather to calculate, scheme, manipulate, and set up scenarios with 5 other women with intentions to seek and destroy, humiliate, intimidate, chase away, embarrass, and attack ONE person, you are all being bullies!! SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!! (the six bullies are Caroline, Jacqueline, Kathy, Melissa, Rosie, and Lauren) SHAME ON BRAVO FOR ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN ALONG WITH THE PRODUCERS AND ANDY COHEN! HOW DARE YOU TRY TO MAKE LESS OF THE BULLYING THAT TERESA HAS HAD TO ENDURE THESE PAST TWO SEASONS!!!

    2. When Caroline and Jacqueline, cornered Teresa’s daughter; They were both bullying her. SHAME ON YOU BOTH!!!

    3. When Rosie threatened to “tear Teresa’s tongue out” and stated that she “would Kill Her”, that was a threat, that was bullying, that was verbal assault, and more!!This woman should have not had been allowed to speak in the reunion! THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED BY THE PRODUCERS!! INSTEAD BRAVO AND THE PRODUCERS TRY MAKING LESS OF THE THREATS AND BULLYING THAT ROSIE MADE!! THAT IS DISGUSTING!Teresa’s mother was called an effing “liar” and her father was called a “coward” by Kathy, Rosie’s sister, and not once did Teresa threaten anyone’s life!!

    4. When Lauren was allowed to come on the show without being a housewife and was prepared to attack Teresa on statements that Teresa had mad on her blogs, and then she accuses her without proof of not writing her own blogs, and calling her a “dick head”, and stating that people hurt themselves because of people like “Teresa”, LAUREN IS BEING A BULLY!!! Lets not forget how Lauren came out on Teresa in Napa as well. Lastly, Lauren was allowed to use Teresa’s daughters as a way to attack Teresa. Teresa’s daughter are not of age to defend themselves! Everyone knows that Teresa’s daughter are a sensitive subject, not just to Teresa, but to any mother! Lauren wanted Teresa to lash out at her. All of these “questions” have been set ups!! SHAME ON LAUREN AND SHAME ON BRAVO AND ANDY COHEN for being a part of the bullying!!!

    5. When Melissa put her hands on Teresa knowing that all of them have been instructed not to touch one another before filming, that is a form of assault and bullying! When Melissa instructs, orders, demands, persuades, manipulates, or deceives her husband, to attack, berate, badger, insult, humiliate, and threaten his sister, she is being a conspirator to bullying and a huge participant!!

    All of these vultures, BULLIES, were allowed to make false accusations against Teresa and her husband! That is a form of bullying!! What I have mentioned above is just a few instances of observed forms of bullying that has been allowed by BRAVO in order to destroy and take down a family! It is disgusting and shameful!!

    Unlike all of them, I was proud when Teresa took responsibility for what happened to Danielle Staub! And the wolf pack claims that she never takes responsibility! Bull Sh*T!!! Teresa has taken so much, but what is the most sickening, is watching how her own blood family came on board to bring her down. Teresa was right on when she stated that Melissa and kathy were opportunistic, but she should have added that they were opportunistic and ruthless, because they wanted fame so much that they were willing to take the risk of attempting to bring down Teresa for fame!! These women are a disgrace to strong family oriented, hard working, real women!!

    I watch the show because of Teresa, if Teresa doesn’t return, I will no longer watch RHONJ. I will not reward a bunch of bullies!!!

    • Sackem says:

      GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Slow clap

      (I hope the 80′s /John Hughes -esque film reference isn’t lost. It always starts with one person slow clapping till the room is filled with rapturous applause)

      • RHONJ FAN says:

        Thank you Sackem. I just really think that all of this is bigger than Teresa. She needs a better attorney, publicist, P.R. management, etc.. etc… She is being ambushed by her own network that she is so loyal to, and her hired managing team is not doing their job! AHHH, john hughes, RIP! he truly was “Some Kind of Wonderful”!

  53. MomaJackie says:

    Love all of the comments. Everyone has said (and more) of what I was thinking.

    Sackem, rest (no pun intended) assured I will always have a glass of wine and smoke a ciggie after each episode.

    Love Fame’s Blog and Sackem’s comments, along with a few other posters comments. Keep it “right on”!

  54. bravofan says:

    Jaqueline was busy again tweeting all day I see, she says she has a “small group” of haters, LMAO, Jaz has loads of haters all over the internet, Ive read them all, she blocks any negative posts on her tweets, then LIES and tells her twitter fans that the group who hates her is only smalli. now I KNOW you are a liar Jax, and if you will LIE about your haters, then you will also LIE on the reunion show

    Jacqueline Laurita‏@JacLaurita

    I only have a small handful of groupie haters,but I get an enormous amount of support & I LOVE IT! XOXO! Thanks for understanding who I am.

    • MNKelly says:

      All I did was ask her a question, granted it was a question that if she answered honestly she would be caught in a lie but she blocked me, chicken shit that she is, can’t face the music.

  55. Dee Knowlton says:

    Ya ok Teresa,u r the fake one & everyone knows it now!I knew right from the beginning,I knew when she kept attacking Danielle.I mean come on the woman is what she is but to B so hateful to any-one,even a hooker has feeling’s,so Teresa is getting back just what she gave,ha!!

  56. JDB says:

    Teresa has been set up by her friends and family for sure! It’s sad to see a liar like Melissa break up a brother and sister! Melissa needs to remember the old saying, what goes around comes around!

  57. I’m tired and haven’t gotten through all of the comments yet so if this has been mentioned already I apologize. How come I haven’t seen anyone comment on Carowhine’s comment comparing Dina’s 1 minute appearance on the show at the Fabellini party to two freaking years of MeHo and Fakepedia being on this show? Seriously? 1 Dina only said that Teresa didn’t do anything that hurtful to her sister and contrary to Carowhine’s previous tagline that sometimes blood isn’t thicker than water. 2 MeHo and Fakepedia have done nothing but s### stir and say horrible things abouut Teresa, her marriage and her family. How does that even remotely equivocate? It doesn’t. And I’m disgusted. I see through your sorry asa Don Caro. You are disgusting garbage.

    One other thing, I’m not on twitter but I’d like to propose a little challenge to whiny cry baby Max….If Teresa means nothing to you and your life is so much better without Teresa then go one week just one without mentioning Teresa on your twitter or Facebook even references without using her name then all of us crazy T fans would donate at least $1 to Autism speaks in T’s name. Let’s see if she can do that. I don’t have a lot of money but id put in at least $10 if she can shut her yap that long. And id add more if the rest of the posse would do it too. I wouldn’t count the Bravo bloc against her because she is contractually obligated but other than tat zip. I bet she cant do it………

  58. happylady says:

    Did I miss something or is he just not there. I’m referring to big Al. On the preview for part 3 all the husbands are seated behind their spouses, except for him. If so I wonder why, as he seemed to have plenty to say all season and was in attendance at the wedding and the napa trip as well. Can anyone confirm?

    • Fame says:

      I noticed that too. Al is a no show, or at least so it seems. This confirms for me that Caroline is done with RHONJ.

  59. gardenwench says:

    Btw MeHo just wait sweetie you are about to be On Display in the biggest way….. Bravo tore Tre down with your help honey and they are about to do it to you. While you’ve been helping Bravo set Tre up they’ve just been waiting to do it to you. The media builds you up and then takes you down. You’re time is coming MeHo and it is going to be messy and ugly and your thug ass sisters cant protect you. And if Don Caro and Jacass stay on this show then their asses will be apogizing to you at the next reunion. Miss Andy may not like you T but he knows where his bread is buttered and Tre is about to have the mother of all redemption arcs. You heard it here first. LOL!

  60. Jehan says:

    Why are all of the Macro sisters always touching Joe Gorga? Almost every single picture, they are touching him. Weird.

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