Gorgas and Lauritas Socialize Together Post Season 4

“The day we had the argument on the deck, where did you go Teresa? Dina’s house… You went to my sister to talk about me. It’s my sister, my baby sister. Let me explain something to you, OK? Very hurtful!” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Reunion Special

On October 26, 2012, Melissa Gorga tweeted the photo above of Chris and Joe hanging out post season 4, playing cards. These two apparently have a lot in common… more so than Teresa and Kim D, who Joe Gorga called ‘butt buddies’ in his season 4 talking head interview about the Posche Fashion Show setup, and no one took offense to it, not even Andy Cohen. If anyone is ‘butt buddies’, it’s Joe Gorga and Chris Laurita — in season 4 he flashed Chris during the RV trip and grabbed Chris’ private parts through his jeans at Greg’s surprise birthday part (Joe also got up on a bar, ripped open his shirt and grinded with two dudes; and let Greg take body shots off his bare chest).

“I like them [Melissa and Kathy] very much. We have a working relationship, but I don’t want to be accused of ever, you know, of being a wedge in their healing process [with Teresa]. And I know that would come down the line ultimately. So it’s a working relationship. I like them both very much. I think they’re both lovely ladies, but it’s better to keep an arm’s distance away.” – Caroline Manzo, October 21, 2012, WWHL After Show

Melissa and Jacqueline sure do have a lot in common too.

“Coming home to pick up the kids & babysitter at the Gorgas. All sound asleep thanks to @Sarahhrehovcik keek.com/!bwxjbab ” – Jacqueline Laurita, February 16, 2013, Twitter

Related:

• Melissa Gorga and Jacqueline Laurita are Horrible, Vindictive, Manipulative Witches
• Jacqueline Laurita is the Problem Between Dina Manzo and Her Siblings Chris Laurita and Caroline Manzo
• Joe Gorga Is Broke, Facing Bankruptcy, and Doesn’t Pay His Bills; He Has a Negative Net Worth of $1.5 Million
• The Laurita Bankruptcy – Signature Apparel LLC Was Drained of Its Funds and Assets to Support the Laurita’s Opulent Lifestyle
• Was Jacqueline a Stripper in Las Vegas?
• Cancun and the Real Story of How Joe and Melissa Gorga Met
• RHONJ Season 4 Ending Was Rewritten Because Jacqueline Laurita Foiled Bravo’s Plan
• Jacqueline Laurita was Part of the Posche Fashion Show Setup to Frame Teresa Giudice
• Caroline Manzo Is Trying to Breakup Teresa Giudice’s Family Because She’s Convinced Herself That Teresa Broke Up Hers
• They Are All Jealous of Teresa Giudice’s Business Success
• Is Joe Gorga Gay, Does He ‘Swim in the Man Pond?’; Is Melissa Gorga a Closet Lesbian?
• The Marco Sisters Tweet or Retweet Negative Things About Teresa Giudice
• Castmates Are the ‘Inside Sources’ to Tabloid Stories About Teresa Giudice
• Melissa Gorga and the Rest of the Cast Spread Cheating Rumors About Joe Giudice
• Danielle Staub Knows Jacqueline Laurita’s and Melissa Gorga’s Secrets
• Jacqueline Laurita Rejects Teresa Giudice’s Apology
• Melissa Gorga is a Pathological Liar Who Most Likely Suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder
• Jacqueline Laurita Is a Disloyal Friend Who Betrayed Teresa Guidice By Sharing Personal Feelings Told to Her in Confidence
• RHONJ Production Supervisor Says Jacqueline Laurita’s Anger Stems from Failed Endorsement Deals, Which She Blames on Teresa Giudice

The Laurita Bankruptcy – Signature Apparel LLC Was Drained of Its Funds and Assets to Support the Laurita’s Opulent Lifestyle

“Everyone likes to have nice things, but I’m not one to brag about it.” – Jacqueline Laurita, RHONJ Season 1 & 2 Tagline

“I had heard that Joe was saying things that discredit my reputation as a businessman. I was furious, because if there’s one thing I’m not, it’s shady.” – Chris Laurita, Season 4 Episode

Jacqueline Laurita in her final Bravo blog for season 4 said:

“I know I said during the reunion that I wished Joe Giudice would go to jail, but regardless of if I think he deserves it or not, I will not wish anything bad for Teresa or Joe. They have 4 beautiful girls, and if anything unfortunate happens to either one of them, it effects those girls, and as a mother I do not want that.”

Jacqueline Laurita is implying that Joe Giudice deserves to go to jail — does she feel the same way about herself, her husband and other Laurita family members? Chris Laurita and his brother Joseph diverted funds from their company (Signature Apparel LLC, which went bankrupt in 2010) for personal expenses and transferred company funds to family members and other family businesses, draining the company so dry that it was an empty shell and creditors couldn’t be paid.

Jacqueline, who is named as a defendant in the bankruptcy case, has been summoned for a deposition on November 13, 2012. The trustee’s attorney Michael Fox told RumorFix on October 25, 2012:

“It frustrates me that they are so public about their lavish lifestyle and they show indifference.”

Signature requested to extend the deadlines for fact discovery and depositions to January 18, 2013, reply expert reports to April 16, 2013, and expert discovery and depositions to May 22, 2013.

“Here’s how the Laurita bankruptcy contrasts to the Guidice bankruptcy: Teresa and Joe were making big bucks but spent ALL of their money, and had no savings. So when the real estate crash happened, they were in no way prepared for the massive decrease in income both personally and for Joe’s business. Obviously, they had no choice but to file bankruptcy, which initially was completely legitimate. Should they have been wiser with their money when times were good? Yes, but this a free country and they’re free do what they want (legally). Luckily, Teresa was able to start making more money than ever had before, and they are now better off as they have withdrawn their bankruptcy and are living more modestly and paying down their debts. While there were problems with fraud later on in their bankruptcy filing (which I believe were resolved, possibly allowing them to file again if they wanted to), it is better for everyone that they are committing to paying instead of trying to discharge their debt. I would label Teresa and Joe as just stupid with money and victims of the economy. The Lauritas are criminals.” – CenNJ, October 26, 2012, Fame-Whorgas

According to legal documents dated March 24, 2011:

Chris and Joseph failed to respect the separate legal existence of Signature Apparel LLC and the other Laurita companies [including Pyramid Trading, Inc., Pyramid Trading Corp., Retail Solutions, Four Brothers Retail and Cool Five LLC (collectively referred to as the "Laurita Pyramid Companies" ), or to companies or business ventures in which Chris and Joseph were investing, including Angelo's Favorite, The Hungry Ghosts Movie LLC, and the BSTC Group], and treated the assets of those companies as if those assets were Chris and Joseph’s own personal assets, including, by way of example:

1. Using Signature funds to pay the personal expense of the other Laurita family members,
2. Causing the diverted funds to be conveyed away from Signature to Pyramid Trading Inc. (another Laurita company),
3. Making other fraudulent transfers to other Laurita companies, and
4. Conveying the Rocawear and Artful Dodger Licenses to a third party while retaining for themselves a percentage of the gross fees received from those licenses.

Utilizing their position in Signature and the Laurita Pyramid Companies, Chris and Joseph, in concert with one another, have wrongfully utilized and depleted the corporate assets of Signature to further their own individual financial interests, in total disregard of the interests of Signature.

• From 9/5/2008 – 8/18/2009, within a year prior to the petition date, Joseph Laurita received a total of $873,689 in transfers of interests in Signature’s property.
• From 9/5/2008 – 8/14/2009, within a year prior to the petition date, Christopher Laurita received a total of $405,730 in transfers of interests in Signature’s property.

Chris and Joseph, in concert with one another, have wrongfully siphoned corporate funds from Signature which resulted in Signature becoming grossly undercapitalized to the point of financial extinction, while amassing personal assets for themselves and their family members.

To this day, Chris and Joseph, while claiming the financial crises of Signature, still drive luxurious vehicles, own buildings and residences and have assets which may be worth millions of dollars.

Signature was so controlled and dominated by Chris and Joseph, and its separate legal existence so ignored, that Signature primarily transacted the personal business of Chris and Joseph, and is therefore a mere instrumentality and the alter ego of Chris and Joseph.

Such control and domination has been exercised to commit fraud and engage in other wrongful conduct, which has resulted in an unjust financial loss and injury to Plaintiff.

As a matter of equity, the Plaintiff (Signature Apparel LLC) is entitled to pierce the corporate veil of the other Laurita companies, and to reach the assets of Chris and Joseph, jointly and severally, to satisfy any judgment obtained in this litigation.

Joseph Laurita and Christopher Laurita, defendants in the case and each 50% owner/member of Signature Apparel LLC (which was formed in 2005), are accused of:

• Draining the company of all its funds and assets in order to support their families’ increasingly opulent lifestyle of private jets, limousines, extravagant parties, premium automobiles, designer clothing, ostentatious home furnishings and lavish vacations.
• Using company funds for their own personal expenses, and making payments to themselves and their family members from company funds for amounts not owed to them by Signature.

Also named as defendants in the case are Jacqueline Laurita, Adeline Laurita (Joseph’s wife), and Anthony Laurita (Chris and Joseph’s brother).

• Chris and Joseph directed Signature to pay the expenses of and make payments to other companies owned, controlled by or affiliated with Chris Laurita and Joseph Laurita.
• Chris and Joseph improperly directed Signature’s vendors, including certain of the petitioning creditors, to make payments to certain of the Laurita’s other companies of funds that were rightfully owed to Signature. Those payments totaled at least and no less than $718,214, and further depleted Signature’s assets.
• Chris and Joseph directed Signature to pay the personal expenses of, and make outright payments to the other Laurita family members (Jacqueline and other family members accepted funds they knew belonged to Signature and for which they each knew they had performed no services and/or provided no value). These payments totaled at least and no less than $7,086,013 (the “Fraudulent Transfers”). These improper payments have no legitimate business purpose, provided no value to Signature, and include:

* At least $1,994,845 for payments to 40 different credit cards for Laurita family members and the Laurita’s other companies
* At least $331,637 for payments on no less than eleven leased cars, including a Bentley and a Maserati
* At least $284,793 in airline travel expenses for the Laurita Family
* At least $145,894 for private airplane rentals for the Laurita Family
* At least $25,000 to Studio Dante, and off-Broadway theater company, for production expenses for the film ‘The Hungry Ghosts’
* At least $73,793 for taxi, limousine and car-service related expenses
* At least $16,951 for car rentals
* At least $5,813 in travel tolls
* At least $6,207 in car insurance premiums
* At least $28,711 for miscellaneous transportation-related expenses
* At least $7,280 for travel agent expenses for the Laurita Family
* At least $1,084 for train travel expenses
* At least $1,379,187 to Joseph Laurita for undocumented or insufficiently documented reasons
* At least $755,184 to Christopher Laurita for undocumented or insufficiently documented reasons
* At least $62,500 to Adeline Laurita for undocumented or insufficiently documented reasons
* At least $40,000 to Anthony Laurita for undocumented or insufficiently documented reasons
* At least $20,909 to Frank Laurita for undocumented or insufficiently documented reasons
* At least $4,860 for rent and utility expenses for 78 Valley Road in Connecticut, the site for Pyramid Trading (another Laurita company)
* At least $325,696 in payments to or on behalf of other entities owned or controlled the Lauritas
* At least $791,509 in payments to Roc Apparel Group LLC for undocumented or insufficiently documented reasons
* At least $784,160 of disbursements to unknown recipients, without any documentation whatsoever

These fraudulent transfers were made voluntarily with the actual intent to hinder, delay or defraud some or all of Signature’s then existing and/or future creditors (including, without limitation, the Petitioning Creditors — Signature Apparel, the plaintiff, will further amend the Complaint when additional information is obtained concerning other monies and property that were fraudulently transferred by or for the benefit of the Laurita family, the defendants, and Laurita Pyramid Companies).

Instead of being used to sustain and develop Signature’s business, pay Signature’s vendors and creditors, Signature’s assets were misused to make outright and unjustified payments to Laurita family members, and to fund the operations of the Laurita brothers’ other companies and business ventures. That diversion of funds constituted a waste of corporate assets and opportunities.

Chris and Joseph wrongfully caused Signature to make outright payments and other transfers to themselves, other Laurita family members, other Laurita companies, and to other companies and business ventures in which Chris and Joseph were investing. After Signature’s bankruptcy, Chris and Joseph conveyed the Licenses away from Signature while retaining for themselves a percentage of gross fees from the licenses, further damaging Signature and effectively rendering the Company an empty shell with no means to pay its creditors. This conduct caused the funds and property of Signature to be squandered, grossly mismanaged and wasted, and contributed to, exacerbated, deepened and/or caused Signature’s insolvency.

• Chris and Joseph breached their fiduciary duties by using Company funds for the payment of their own personal expenses and the personal expenses of other Laurita family members. Signature was damaged in an amount to be determined, but believed to be not less than $7,086,013 plus interest.
• Chris and Joseph breached their fiduciary duties by coordinating the transfer of the Rocawear License and the Artful Dodger Licenses to a third-party, as a new license, while retaining for themselves, rather than Signature, a percentage of the gross fees from the Licenses. As a direct and proximate result, Signature was damaged in an amount to be determined, but believed to be not less than $718,214 plus interest. That transfer provided Chris and Joseph with continuing income from the Rocawear and Artful Dodger Licenses, while reducing Signature to an empty shell with little or no means to pay its debts or continue its business.

Signature had a possessory right and interest to its assets, including its receipts, accounts receivable, property and general funds. Defendants converted Signature’s assets and property when they received monies in the form of payments and other wrongful transfers. Defendants actions deprived Signature of its use of its assets, and contributed to, exacerbated, deepened or caused Signature’s insolvency.

Signature and the other Laurita companies were grossly undercapitalized at their respective inception, and their respective assets were unreasonably small in proportion to their respective obligations.

Defendants Joseph Laurita and Christopher Laurita assert rights to payment allegedly owned by Signature. Pursuant to Bankruptcy Code section 502(d), the Joseph Laurita claim and the Christopher Laurita claim must each be disallowed unless and until such defendants pays Signature an amount equal to transfer made to such defendants that is avoided.

The actions of the defendants described in the Complaint, and as further to be proven upon discovery of additional facts, constitutes inequitable, unconscionable, and unfair conduct. Such inequitable, unconscionable, and unfair conduct of the defendants resulted in harm to Signature and its creditors and/or gave the defendants an unfair advantage over Signature’s other creditors.

• Joseph Laurita asserts that Signature is indebted to him in the amount of $5,337,414 in connection to unsecured loans (the “Joseph Laurita Loans”) allegedly made by him to Signature, as described in the Joseph Laurita claim.
• Christopher Laurita asserts that Signature is indebted to him in the amount of $3,387,414 in connection to unsecured loans (the “Christopher Laurita Loans”) allegedly made by him to Signature, as described in the Christopher Laurita claim.

The insider loans were each a sham, not true loans.

The insider loans represented the equity contributions of defendants Joseph and Christopher Laurita, each 50% owner/member of Signature. Neither Joseph nor Christopher are in the business of lending money, and there was no legitimate business reason for such Defendants to make such insider loans.

Although cast in the form of loans, the insider loans had the substance and character of an equity contribution: there were no arms’-length, good-faith commercial negotiation the terms of the insider loans; at all relevant times, Signature was not adequately capitalized to repay the insider loans; Signature had no ability to obtain comparable financing from a lending institution at the interest rate provided in the insider loans.

At all relevant times, Joseph and Christopher Laurita were insiders of Signature and exercised effective control over Signature. Through actual and effective control over Signature, overreaching and inequitable conduct, defendants Joseph and Christopher operated Signature in an undercapitalized, deceptive and unsound manner, to the detriment of Signature’s creditors.

If the insider loans are not recharacterized as equity, unsecured creditors will receive less than they otherwise would from monies recovered from defendants in this action and in other actions that have been or will be brought by or on behalf of Signature and its estate. Accordingly, the insider loans should be recharacterized as equity contributions in Signature.

Defendants Joseph Laurita and Christopher Laurita have filed the Joseph Laurita Claim and Christopher Laurita Claim (together, the “Proof of Claim”), respectively, in the bankruptcy proceeding. Defendants claims are not supported by the books and records of Signature, nor the materials annexed to the respective Proofs of Claim submitted by Defendants, and therefore should be allowed. As a result of the foregoing, Signature is entitled to an order disallowing the Claims.

About Signature Apparel LLC:

Signature was formed in 2005 by brothers Joseph and Christopher Laurita, as a privately-owned, multi-facted apparel company in the business of designing, manufacturing and distributing branded apparel worldwide. Joseph and Christopher Laurita each owned 50% percent of the Company.

In or about 2005, Signature entered into an exclusive license with a predecessor-in-interest of Iconix Brand Group, Inc. to design, manufacture and distribute junior’s apparel bearing the “Rocawear” trademarks, which license was assigned in or about 2007 to Studio IP Holdings LLC, a subsidiary of Iconix.

In or about 2005, Signature entered into an exclusive license with a subsidiary of Iconix, Artful Holdings LLC, to design, manufacture and distribute apparel bearing the “Artful Dodger” trademarks.

In or about 2005, Signature designed, manufactured and distributed apparel pursuant to the Rocawear License and, beginning in or about 2007, Signature designed, manufactured and distributed apparel pursuant to the Artful Dodger License, and sold such apparel to Signature’s wholesale customers throughout the United States.

Signature achieved more than $250 million in sales from Rocawear and Artful Dodger branded apparel alone between 2005 and 2009.

About the Original Petition by Creditors and the Laurita Brother’s Claims:

U.S. Bankruptcy Court Southern District of New York (Manhattan)
Case No. 09-15378 (JMP)
Chapter 11
Signature Apparel Group, LLC, Involuntary Debtor (Plaintiff)
Joseph Laurita, Christopher Laurita, Adeline Laurita, Anthony Laurita and Jacqueline Laurita (Defendants)

Creditors of Signature Apparel Group LLC, which owns the Fetish trademark and holds the licenses for Rocawear Juniors and Artful Dodger, are looking to push the company into bankruptcy protection, court filings showed. – Reuters, September 4, 2009

On September 4, 2009 (the “Petition Date”), Hitch & Trail Inc., Talful Ltd., and Harvestway (China) Limited (the “Petitioning Creditors”) filed an involuntary petition against Signature in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York, seeking relief under chapter 7 of title 1 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code.

The three original petitioners in the bankruptcy case (other petitioners may have since been added) and the amount owed them:

• Hitch & Trail, Inc., NY NY; $3,556,793.18 (September 3, 2009)
• Talful Ltd, Hong Kong, China; owed $4,757,078,62 (September 3, 2009)
• Harvestway (China) Limited, Hong Kong, China; owed $6,465,464.50 (September 2, 2009)

Secured claims vs. unsecured claims:

• Class 1 Priority Non-Tax and Priority Tax Claim, scheduled claims $14,906.80 (CIT Group has since been paid in full)
• General Unsecured Claims: $28,676,703.13 (the Complaint may have since been amended with more petitioning creditors)

On November 9, 2009, the debtor filed its motion to convert the case to a case under chapter 11, and on November 12, 2009 the court granted the motion to convert.

On June 29, 2010, a chapter 11 plan of reorganization was confirmed, and Anthony Labrosciano was named the responsible person of Signature Apparel LLC (he is representing Signature Apparel as the Plaintiff against the Defendants Christopher Laurita, Joseph Laurita, Anthony Laurita, Adeline Laurita and Jacqueline Laurita).

On August 5, 2010, Signature Apparel Group, LLC went out of business.

Affadavit of Joseph Laurita, chairman of Signature Apparel Group

My brother Christopher Laurita and I are the two member of the debtor, each owning a 50% membership interest in the debtor. The debtor is a privately owned multi-faceted apparel company that designs, develops, manufactures, distributes and sells branded apparel worldwide.

Christopher Laurita, Officer and President, 2003 – present
Joseph Laurita, Chairman, 2003 – present

On January 4, 2010, Joseph Laurita filed a general unsecured claim against Signature in the amount of $5,337,414 on account of purported loans made by Joseph to Signature.

On January 5, 2010, Christopher Laurita filed a general unsecured claim against Signature in the amount of $3,387,414 on account of purported loans made by Christopher to Signature.

http://ia700401.us.archive.org/23/items/gov.uscourts.nysb.185141/gov.uscourts.nysb.185141.36.0.pdf

A list of the 20 largest unsecured creditors is attached as Exhibit ‘A’.

http://ia700401.us.archive.org/23/items/gov.uscourts.nysb.185141/gov.uscourts.nysb.185141.124.0.pdf

Note: If you copy all or part of this article, please clearly credit and link back to Fame-Whorgas since it took considerable time and effort to type out this information from the PDF file and then edit it down (the Complaint is about 3 times the size of this article), format it, and re-organize it for readability.

UPDATES ON THE BANKRUPTCY CASE:

Jacqueline Laurita’s Personal Exposure and Signature Apparel’s Creditors list $55 Million in Claims (FRE)

Since the original complaint was filed (which I found online and included in this article), other creditors have come forward (but I don’t have access to the amended complaint). FRE (link above) has the updates on the case and the amount (which totals $55 million) creditors are claiming are owed to them by the Laurita brothers. Other creditors include:

• Susan G Komen Cancer Foundation $18,000
• Federal Express $14,300
• American Express $$83,000
• UPS $9,500
• Ikon Financial $95,000
• Artful Holdings, LLC $10,350,000
• Studio IP Holdings, LLC $20,700,000
• CitiGroup Commercial $200,000
• Daihwa $456,000
• Hitch & Trail, Inc. $3,699,000
• Putnam Leasing $444,000
• GiftTex: $96,000
• Talful, LTD $4,750,000
• Harvestway Ltd $5,051,000

Signature Apparel Computers & Server Recovered from Chris Laurita’s Possession (FRE)

Chris Laurita removed computers from the Signature Apparel offices. He claims the computers were removed so that the equipment could be used in his new business, New Star Group, LLC (the Company that promotes BLK). Chris disclosed that he was also in possession of a server originally belonging to Signature Apparel. The Memorandum of Law filed in support of the Motion painstakingly sets forth the number of times Chris Laurita, through counsel, insisted that all computers, hard drives, servers and electronic equipment remained at the Signature Apparel warehouse before Laurita finally admitted that he and his personal assistant absconded with the equipment.

Gorgas Extract $500,000 in Equity in a Cash-out Refinance of Their Overpriced Home for Sale

Comments posted in a New York Post article published online in May 2011 about the Gorga’s not paying their bills:

“Hey Joe, you are the biggest a$$, pay us the money you owe us for installing your elevator!” – Stephen Ferrara, Asst. Sales Manager at Standard Elevator, July 18, 2011

“nice house I helped you build Pay me the money you owe me bigshot.” – Scott Roberts, student at University of South Carolina, June 27, 2011

On February 2, 2007, Joe Gorga purchased the lot at 8 Pond View Ct., Montville, NJ for $950,000 cash (which was profit from the 2006 sale of the first home Joe built — 149 Pulis Avenue, Franklin Lakes, NJ), and the deed was in his name only.

When he took out a construction loan on November 16, 2007, to build the mansion on the lot, he transferred the deed into both his and Melissa’s names (the interest rate on the loan was 9% and the loan was obtained by putting two properties up as collateral — 11 Mermaid Rd, Toms River and 489 Summer St. Paterson, NJ). This construction loan agreement on November 16, 2007 was for $2.25 million.

They modified the mortgage loan agreement beginning on July 1, 2009 (the mortgage note modification agreement lists their address as 35 Gravel Hill Road, Kinnelon NJ), converting the loan to a three year term period with 6.25% rate and monthly payment of $14, 842.56 until July 1, 2012, when the entire amount of this loan would have become due and payable (balloon payment).

They modified their mortgage for the second time on March 24, 2011 (principal now $2,185,199 with a 5% interest rate and a monthly payment of $11,829 until April 1, 2041)  — the modification was necessary since the first modification would have expired on July 1, 2012, and the balloon payment would have been due had they not modified the loan.

On October 11, 2012, the Gorgas refinanced their mortgage for $500,000 more than they owed to extract equity from their home, most likely to pay down debt or make additional purchases — in other words, they received $500,000 cash back (less closing costs) at the close of the new loan by borrowing $2.68 million (the new loan amount) versus $2.18 million (the principal balance on the old loan).

On the cash-out refinance, the initial rate of 4.125% will change to an adjustable rate on November 1, 2019, and the adjustable rate may change on that day every 12th month thereafter. Before each change date, the new rate will be calculated by adding 4% to the current index. The rate at the first change will not be greater than 9.125% or less than 4%. Thereafter, adjustable interest rate will never be increased or decreased on any single change date by more than 2% from the rate of interest being paid for the proceeding 12 months. Interest rate will never be greater than 10.125%.

The amount they borrowed in their cash-out refinance on October 11, 2012, would have been limited to 90% of the home’s value, which means that if the Gorga’s borrowed the maximum amount allowed, their home is valued at approximately $3 million, yet they have it on the market for $3.8 million, which is why is hasn’t sold — it’s overpriced.

“Why don’t you pay your bills… you have to borrow money every week from people.” – Joe Gorga to Joe Gorga during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special

Are the Gorga’s broke, borrowing money from people every week just to pay their bills, like Joe Giudice said at the season 4 reunion? Someone asked Kim D on Twitter, “Do Joe and Melissa live close to Tre? Why are they selling their house?, to which Kim replied: “They’re broke.” Here are more tweets from Kim D about the Gorga’s finances:

“Joe and Melissa, you r broke. Don’t get it twisted. ahhh Joe Gorga wanted to shut me up as soon as I came out. He knows I know too much to mess with me. All the feuds stem from business. QUESTION OF THE NIGHT: what # is bigger, the # of cupcakes you’ve made, eaten, or the # of $$ Melissa Gorga owes to the Gov’t? Melissa Gorga ‘s PSE&G was turned off 4 3 days. Idiot. Melissa Gorga you’re poor, you’re a sleaze, your world goes around, so long as you’re on your knees. For the last time!!! Teresa Giudice had NO clue about what I was doing. PERIOD!” – Tweets from Kim D (‏@KimDPosche), during the premiere of part 3 of the reunion special

“Honey. U r as broke as they come. It seems like u have as much trouble shutting ur mouth as u do ur legs. Not in ur skillset. @melissagorga” – Kim D (@KimDPosche), September 29, 2012, Twitter

“Melissa Gorga’s checks bounce more than she does. Scary. That’s why she needs a store as in debt as she is to afford the stripper costumes.” – Kim D (@KimDPosche), September 29, 2012, Twitter

“Melissa Gorga, you’re poor, you’re a sleaze, your world goes around, so long as you’re on your knees.’ – Kim D (@KimDPosche), October 14, 2012, Twitter

Joe tweeted some photos (see below) of a home he has under construction and the ‘haunted house’ that he is converting into condos. Could the house he is building be Melissa’s new dream ‘spec’ home? Joe and Melissa told Us Weekly on May 22, 2012 and Reality Aired on May 12, 2012:

“I’m a builder. I custom-built the houses we have lived in and will do the same with our next one,” Joe tells Us Weekly exclusively. “We tried Montville, but it just wasn’t for us. We want to go back to Franklin Lakes, which is closer to where I work, and we’re looking at a couple of properties now.”

“Wait till you see the next house I build,” he tells Us.

“I absolutely love our current house and will be sad to leave, but Joe is an incredible builder, so I have no doubt that I’ll love the next house just as much. Although this is the last time he is getting me to pack-up!”, said Melissa.

“We gave Montville a try and want to move back to Franklin Lakes before the kids reach an age where they will all be in school. When we sell our house in Montville, we will move into a rental while Joe custom builds our next house. Joe is a builder and a businessman. He will sell pretty much any property for the right price and build again bigger and better.”

Joe Gorga’s purchases of investment properties since 2008 have been under the company name ’10 Courtland Street LLC.’ They are as follows (in season 4 episode 2, Joe pointed out the various buildings he owns on a city block, saying he put each under his children’s names — but that doesn’t appear to be the case):

May 16, 2008
Construction Loan Mortgage
$3.5 million

Granted to 10 Courtland Street LLC; Guiseppe Gorga

To undertake the development, construction, equipping and furnishing of construction of the renovation of a former storage building into a 58-unit residential building.

Property Address(es):
10-18 Courtland Street, Paterson, NJ
132-136 Barclay Street, Paterson, NJ

Instrument Type    MORTGAGE
Instrument#    2008033271
Date Recorded    06/04/2008
Book/Page    M9888/33
Mortgagor    10 COURTLAND STREET LLC; GORGA GUISEPPE
Mortgagee    BCB COMMUNITY BANK
Block/Lot    N/A/
Township    PATERSON CITY

July 1, 2009
Commercial Mortgage
$6 million

Granted to 10 Courtland Street LLC; Guiseppe Gorga

Property Address(es):
10-28 Courtland Street, Paterson, NJ
17-25 Camden Street, Paterson, NJ
27-33 Leslie Street, Paterson, NJ

Instrument Type    MORTGAGE
Instrument#    2009038533
Date Recorded    07/20/2009
Book/Page    M10511/209
Mortgagor    10 COURTLAND STREET LLC; GORGA GIUSEPPE
Mortgagee    BOILING SPRINGS SAVINGS BANK
Block/Lot    N/A/
Township    PATERSON CITY

March 18, 2010
Mortgage
$3.71 million

Granted to 10 Courtland Street LLC; Guiseppe Gorga

Property Address(es):
10-28 Courtland Street, Paterson, NJ
17-25 Camden Street, Paterson, NJ
27-33 Leslie Street, Paterson, NJ
132-136 Barclay Street, Paterson, NJ

Instrument Type    MORTGAGE
Instrument#    2010016202
Date Recorded    04/12/2010
Book/Page    M10906/223
Mortgagor    10 COURTLAND STREET LLC; GORGA GIUSEPPE
Mortgagee    BOILING SPRINGS SAVINGS BANK
Block/Lot    N/A/
Township    PATERSON CITY

Related:

• Is Joe Gorga Broke and Facing Bankruptcy?; Does He Really Pay His Bills?; Why Are the Gorgas Selling Their Homes?; Joe Gorga Has a Negative Net Worth of $1.5 Million
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Melissa Gorga and Jacqueline Laurita are Horrible, Vindictive, Manipulative Witches; Teresa Giudice Says Melissa Stays Relevant By Fighting With Her; Dina Manzo Suggests Ashlee Holmes Keep Quiet Like Her; More About Melissa from John Karagiorgis

Teresa Giudice: Fighting With Me Makes Melissa Gorga Relevant

RumorFix Exclusive
October 20, 2012

Although the season is over for Real Housewives of New Jersey, it doesn’t mean the fighting is over.

In an exclusive interview with Real Mr. Housewife for RumorFix, Teresa says her sister-in-law, Melissa Gorga, keeps bashing Teresa to “keep her relevant.”

In Melissa’s most recent blog, she said Teresa is doing appearances with Kim DePaola, who puts on the Posche Fashion Show, to return the favor of helping set Melissa up with rumors that she was a stripper.

“I guess Melissa has nothing else to talk about but me,” Teresa tells us. “I keep her relevant. I keep her going. That’s funny to me. It’s a joke. I’m doing appearances with Kim? Yeah, okay. I don’t even want to answer that because it’s not even worth my time.”

Finally, in hopes to put the rumors to rest, Teresa reiterates that she knew “something was going to happen” at the Posche Fashion Show, because something always happens. But in retrospect she admits, “I shouldn’t have opened my mouth.”

But, she wants to make it clear she had nothing to do with the set up.

Although Melissa thinks otherwise, when Teresa’s brother-in-law came to her to say, “You did a good job,” he was saying he was proud of Teresa’s business successes.

“He’s proud of everything I’ve accomplished with Fabbelini,” Teresa tells us. “Every time he sees me, He says, ‘I’m proud of you my sister-in-law.’ Meanwhile Melissa thinks life revolves around her — like he was saying that because of her. It had nothing to do with Melissa. [It would be] stupid for my brother-in-law to even say that on national TV. I didn’t know what was going on. I didn’t even know my brother-in-law was going to be there. I’m so sick and tired of talking about this. I’m done. I didn’t set her up. If that’s what she wants to believe God bless her. I hope she lives a happy life. She [Melissa] already said she’s done with me. She better remember those words. She should think before she talks.”

Melissa Gorga Says Teresa Giudice Should Leave Reality TV

Joe and Teresa’s parents are from the old country and Italian families are notorious for sticking together. I’m sure they are upset at him for going against his sister to chase fame and help Melissa chase fame. I think that upsets them more than seeing him being taken advantage of by Melissa. Melissa will eventually reveal herself to Joe, albeit with the help of RHONJ producers, the truth will come out about her. The producers are going out of their way to overly dramatize Teresa’s statement about Melissa being a golddigger and to help play up the Joe and Melissa’s ‘love affair’. That will only make things more interesting when it all comes crashing down. – Miza, May 1, 2012, Lipstick Alley

In the October 18, 2012 issue of In Touch, Melissa Gorga said:

“If reality TV is causing [Teresa's] family a lot of stress, then she should walk away. But I don’t think she’s there yet.”

Melissa, the hypocrite, on the other hand, would never be a part of something that had a negative impact on her home life:

“If I start to feel pressure at home, you won’t see me on the show anymore,” she adds. “But I don’t think Teresa is ready to take that step.”

Melissa watched Teresa become famous on the show for two seasons and she wanted that for herself too. Funny how she now says that Teresa is addicted to the fame when that’s the same thing she wanted for herself…. FAME! And as much as Melissa thinks Teresa should leave the show, Melissa will be right along with her next season. All the Gorgas are about is trying to get famous off Teresa’s shine. Melissa’s end goal is to replace Teresa and become top dog but, it’s not going to happen. The edit is going to come for every last one of them. And at the end of the season 5,  someone’s going to fall, and it won’t be Teresa unless she gets her own show on another network.

Joe and Melissa Gorga, along with Melissa’s sisters, want Teresa to walk away from her reality TV career and give it to them. Unfortunately, Bravo is bringing back Melissa, but they have no plans to cast Melissa’s sisters, according to a former RHONJ post production supervisor on September 17, 2012:

Q: “And Melissa? Will she be back?”

A: “Yes (abridged due to privacy of source), she will definitely be back.”

Q: “Melissa’s sisters?”

A: “No, no, we get what they try and do on twitter and it takes the sparkle off the series; they won’t be housewives anytime soon.”

Melissa hoped to run Teresa off the show she helped make popular because she wants the spotlight all to herself. But Teresa is too strong to let that happen. She will not be bullied off the show by a bunch of horrible, vindictive, manipulative witches — this includes Jacqueline Laurita and Melissa’s sisters, Kim and Lysa. Melissa is the one that should be kicked to the curb because Teresa is the bona fide star of the show, and Melissa will always be in her shadow.

“Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure! #runner #positive thinker! My lil sis @melissagorga is a #rockstar on #RHONJ.” – Kim Pirrella

“I have 3 beautiful children and 2 beautiful sisters, my lil sis @melissagorga happens to be #OnDisplay on #RHONJ http://telly.com/LIPBO” – Lysa Simpson

“I’m a wife, mother and over protective sister to @melissagorga & @kimpirrella. #RHONJ” – Lysa Simpson

Melissa Gorga and Her Sisters Love Jacqueline Laurita

Teresa: I found his [her brother's] g-string [from his days as a Chippendale dancer] in his room.

Jacqueline to Melissa: She was probably smelling it.

“Yeah like the C word is a term of endearment for your wife” hahahaha @JacLaurita #RHONJ” – Lauren Manzo’s tweet about Jacqueline Laurita’s snide remark directed at Joe Giudice during the October 21, 2012, premiere of season 4 episode 24 (lost footage)

Dina Manzo Suggests Ashlee Holmes Keep Quiet Like Her

Joe Gorga Says He Wants a Women Who Walks a Straight Line and Joe Giudice Calls Joe Gorga a Loser for Not Protecting His Sister

During part 3 of the season 4 reunion special, Joe Gorga said he wants a women who walks a straight line:

“I was there. She was a bartender. She was a school teacher. She was putting herself through college. Me, I’m going to be honest with you. I want a girl that walks a straight line. My father always said, ‘You get the knife, you walk on that knife, you slip, you cut yourself.’ I picked the perfect wife for me. She is amazing in my book. OK?’ – Joe Gorga (Melissa’s expression while Joe is saying this is captured in the screen shot below)

According to Penny Drossos,

“If Joe knew half of the truth of not only before marriage but during their marriage, he would cry.”

Joe Gorga is under the wicked spell of his wife, who whispers lies about Teresa into his ear and he believes them. Joe Giudice put Joe in his place during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special:

“When other people call his sister names and he doesn’t stick up for her, that makes him a loser.” – Joe Giudice about Joe Gorga

More from John Karagiorgis’ (@JohnnyTheGrk) October 18, 2012 Interview with Real Housewives Blog (Click for Full Interview)

Was Melissa always so superficial and materialistic?

O, YEAH! She was envious of what everyone else had. She lived out of a “friend’s” closet for about six years. Borrowing clothes, shoes, whatever she could get her hands on. Maybe that’s the reason she felt the need to shoplift while living in Florida (charges and the warrant have since been dismissed). She was envious of everyone and didn’t have any friends with designer duds to borrow, so instead she just attempted to steal them.

Did Melissa go to college?

Yes, she did, after she got her GED. She was working at Lookers and going to New Jersey State College. Did she ever teach? No. She was a a student teacher/ teacher’s aid and after two weeks she told Joe she couldn’t handle it. So she never actually taught and never obtained a teaching certificate in any state. She went to work as his secretary. She basically went from Ho to Housewife.

Why are Joe and Melissa really selling their house?

John doesn’t know the exact numbers in their bank accounts nor does he care to know. But allegedly the Gorga’s power was shut off a couple of weeks ago. And as the guy was there turning the power off Joe tried to use his “I am a celebrity card’. The guy didn’t want to hear it; he was just there to do his job. Joe is also allegedly borrowing a lot of money from a lot of people. He pays some of his debtors on a weekly basis. Missy proclaimed “At Least We Pay Our Bills” [except for a pesky foreclosure, and the sub contractors, and the service providers].

I asked John if he thought Melissa was outspending what he is able to bring in on a monthly basis. He said he could not comment on it because he doesn’t know or care to know what they have in their bank accounts. I stated that I believe that when they first got together Joe probably showered her with gifts, dinners, whatever she wanted. And now in her quest to be famous and “take down Teresa”, she has probably spent him into the poor house. John added: “And a lot of aggravation and a lot of stress. I actually feel bad for the guy; he’s a worker.”

On Joe and Teresa repairing their relationship:

I (Me – Housewives Blog) honestly believe that if Joe and Teresa had time to talk and be around each other without Melissa being there they would be able to repair their relationship without Melissa interfering.

John on Melissa at the Reunion and her smugness and comments to Teresa:

She said, “Teresa look at me I am done with you and you’re done with my kids”. To me you are nothing but a piece of shit. You want nothing to do with her, fine. But don’t take away your husband’s kids, who happen to be her nephews and niece, and say that my kids are done with you too. That right there tells me you are nothing but a malicious, vindictive, arrogant, egotistical and envious bitch because she is using her kids as weapons. In that statement right there I felt for Joe. I looked at the TV and said that this guy has it bad. I don’t think it was lies — I think it was from the heart, and Melissa knows that, and it “hit to close to home for her”.

Me: Then to turn around and tell a magazine that Teresa called Antonia ugly. And when Teresa writes an open letter on her blog (To My Darling, Beautiful Niece) to her new niece and nephews — to turn around and tweet that Teresa wrote a “lying blog” about Antonia. I am not sure how you lie when you are clearly speaking from your heart.

John: If I actually had Joe’s number I would call him up and say, “You know what bro, you got it bad, whatever it is, it is.” I felt for the guy. When I saw her use her kids as pawns in that vindictive manner, the way she did, I felt for the guy, I really did. I whole-heartedly felt for the guy. You don’t use your children as pawns. If you use your children in that way, you are a piece of shit. That’s your husband’s family.

Me: When Joe said at the reunion, “My children don’t have grandparents because of you,” that is probably something that Melissa has said to Joe.

John: After seeing that, I believe it. I think she has literally brainwashed him; and as a hard working family man, he doesn’t deserve that. I can understand Joe. We both come from traditional families with strict values and expectations. We are family men and will do anything for their happiness.

Definitely done something to her nose. Has Melissa had plastic surgery other than her breasts?

Melissa wasn’t always the attractive lady we see now. Even up until a few years ago, she had a “plain-jane” look about her. I don’t know if she has had any other plastic surgery, and I don’t know that Melissa would cop to it if she has had a nose job or some restructuring of her face.

John: O, yeah, she’s had a nose job. If you look at her old pictures you can see that it was contoured or reduced.

Who Set Melissa up at the Fashion Show?

John put his good friend Angelo up to it because Melissa was bashing Penny’s salon and other friend’s businesses.

Does he have any idea who Jacqueline was texting during the Fashion Show?

Jacqueline was probably texting with Caroline and Lauren because they didn’t want to say anything out loud because they were mic’d.

What was Teresa’s involvement in the set-up?

She had no friggin’ idea what was about to happen. She didn’t know a damn thing. She didn’t know about Angelo. If she did know anything it was that Melissa was going to be the target and that was it — because she was bad-mouthing Kim’s store and Penny’s salon. She didn’t know that me and Penny brought Angelo; she didn’t know that Angelo was Melissa’s manager when she danced. She had no idea what was going to happen. It’s a shame this whole time Teresa was taking the blame because, unlike Jacqueline, we honored our confidentiality agreement. You know if you play with people’s businesses, karma’s a bitch.

Me: I think if you open your eyes and look past taking sides, that you could see that in that moment Teresa’s anxiety was very real as is her pain now because she doesn’t speak to her brother And you could tell that way — with the way Melissa sits there like she is bored unless the conversation is about her — that she doesn’t care. She doesn’t care that Joe doesn’t have his family, that her kids don’t have their cousins, because she is getting what she wants.

John: Look at all her pics — she is keeping her kids around her family.

Me: I don’t know those people. But Lysa Simpson has blocked me on Twitter because I see through the bullshit and don’t buy everything Melissa says.

John: From what’s been said, Lysa and Kim (Pirrella) have been trying to get on the show forever and they (Bravo) won’t even pay attention to them. Kim, Lysa and Melissa are all part of the same tree. Lysa and Kim go to my friends club, go in the back, and get happy as hell and come back out. I have never met them, and I have no desire to meet them. My married friends have told me that Kim and Lysa have hit on them at a party in front of their wives.

So now that Melissa knows the truth, that Teresa didn’t set her up, why do you think she isn’t speaking to her?

She will never agree to that because she will never look at the truth, so she has that edge against her and so she has that control over Joe.

I have a feeling in the next season Melissa is going to get what’s coming to her?

Of course she is. When people are coming forward and say, “You’re gonna deny, this or that? You’re going to tell me I didn’t buy you those because you did this for me?” Really?!?! Melissa is going to get what is coming to her. She had her make-up artist attack my wife calling her a “coke whore” and she looks like a “crack-ho” (for the record, Penny has never touched a drug in her life). Do you really want to go down that road with me? Do you really want to know who the coke whore was? Do you really want to know who it was that sucked guys off to accommodate their habits for free, free nights at shore houses, or for other free shit? I will only warn once, and our friends are all ready to come forward when I ask them to.

Does John feel bad about exposing Melissa?

Not at all. Did Melissa feel bad when she was bad-mouthing Penny’s shop? Absolutely Not. Penny had her whole crew there at the Fashion Show and they all spoke on camera and they got edited out. Until you come out and apologize to everyone you’ve wronged, nothing is to stop this tidal wave, and it is going to hit like tsunami.

Me: I don’t wish Joe anymore pain; he’s been through a enough. But I think he’s gonna have to hurt to see through her bullshit.

John: He deserves the truth and should have shut his mouth and listened to what his sister had to say. We know of many people who would go public and speak on camera with explicit info that would expose the truth. Enough is enough. They’ve bashed businesses, attacked on twitter with troll accounts, had their employees attack, and had others on twitter come after us. We’ve received threatening phone calls; and every time I invite them to step up or shut up — still never confronted.

Me: I don’t want him to hurt anymore, but I think he has to hurt and see the truth.

John: Sometimes truth comes with pain. The good thing about pain is, it let’s you know you have the strength to overcome it.

Does Melissa still see other men inside her marriage?

His friend saw her a little over four years ago. And he happens to be her ex-boyfriend.

Me: So they were…

John: Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang

Me: So there is a rumor that Joey might not be Joe’s.

John: I can’t speak to that. I don’t know. I do know that I was told by a friend of mine that he was with her a little over four years ago.

Me: Was Joe out of town or ….

John: No, just because she called him up. Also happens to be the person she lived with for a few years.

Me: Is this the sushi restaurant guy we’ve heard about?

John: Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! He goes by “Bulldog”. He was training to be an Ultimate Fighter but their “partying” habits ruined it. He even jokes about it — says if he knew she was going to get on the show, he would have recorded the last few times he was with her.

Me: What’s his beef with her?

John: She acts like he doesn’t even exist anymore because she is “famous” now. She does that to everyone she knows.

RHONJ Season 5 Will Be All About Melissa Gorga’s Secrets; Danielle Staub Met With Andy Cohen and They Talked ‘Housewives’; John Karagiorgis Says Melissa Gorga Went ‘From Ho to Housewife’ (Updated 10/21/2012)

“Did you really think that you’d float onto this show with your praise Jesus, I am just so innocent and pure hearted Melissa that Bravo would keep you on the pedestal? Get real! They had to gain your trust, and they fed you right out of their hand. What Bravo will do to you will far outweigh what has happened to Teresa or Danielle. They didn’t see what was coming to them. However, you had a huge part in the character assassination of your SIL and her relationships on this show and had no second thought about how that would/could affect her emotionally or financially as long as you got your end result. I’m not implying Teresa is innocent in any of this drama either, but let’s see how you will fair once it’s your turn. The fact that you have tried to imply you are innocent in any of this massacre of a family is why I will stoop to the level and say ‘I can’t wait for you to get your comeuppance for Season 5′.” – Have2Say, October 14, 2012, Melissa’s Bravo Blog

According to a former RHONJ post production supervisor: Bravo doesn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on just following these woman around with no plan — the season and the storyline has a basic outline from the first day. At the start of the season the production team sits down and gives a general overview of where they want the storyline for the show to go. ALL of the wives are in on this. They discuss popular story lines from the season before, story lines that need tying up, and also ways of threading in new story lines that look organic to the story.

The Giudices used reunion 4 to do what the other cast members had been doing to them all season: disclose dirt on their cast mates on camera to put a negative focus on them so that Bravo will build story lines around that. It’s a good strategy because now Bravo has plenty to work with in season 5, which will be all about Melissa’s secrets (and Jacqueline’s, if she returns).

“Why don’t you pay your bills… you have to borrow money every week from people.” – Joe Giudie to Joe Gorga during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special

“This is what happened. She dated my brother’s best friend. She never wanted anything to do with him [Teresa's brother]. She knew him back in Cancun days.” – Teresa Giudice during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special on how Joe and Melissa Gorga met in Cancun

Joe Giudice asks Melissa Gorga: “How did you really met Joe Gorga?” Joe Gorga, enraged, screams: “Shut the f–k up about my f–king wife!” during part 3 of the season 4 reunion special.

Here is what was talked about during reunion 4 and will be ‘loose ends’ that producers may want to tie up during season 5 taping:

1. What really happened when the Gorgas met during Spring Break in Cancun in 2003 and who is Joe’s best friend that Melissa dated before she gave Joe the time of day.
2. Melissa adamantly denies she was ever a a dancer or stripper, but footage not aired from the PFS proves otherwise (the PFS was filled with people from her past claiming she was a dancer, according to a former post production supervisor).
3. What is the origin of the rumors about Melissa leaving Joe for a richer man?
4. Are the Gorga’s borrowing money from people every week to pay their bills and are they selling their home because they’re in over their heads? Based on Kim Pirrella’s (Melissa’s sister) October 14th retweet (during the premiere of part 3 of the reunion special), it looks like Melissa and her sisters are worried about the Gorga’s financial situation being exposed: “Who cares about who met who where and who borrowed what from whom?”
5. Was Joe Gorga really a Chippendale dancer and is his ego so huge that he seeks attention from both men and women — does he swing both ways?
6. During the reunion special, Andy Cohen tried to redirect the conversation back to Melissa contacting Danielle, but since it didn’t really get addressed, will it be a loose end tied up in season 5? Andy asked Teresa if she regretted the way she treated Danielle, and Teresa said she did — Andy bringing up this topic could mean Bravo is in talks with Danielle to return for season 5. Danielle Staub says she had a meeting with Andy Cohen on October 17, 2012, and claims they talked “Housewives.” Staub says: “It was a general meeting. There was a lot of talk about everything — including Housewives.” According to TMZ: As for rumors that Staub ALREADY has a deal in place to return to the show, Staub says it’s bogus … nothing is official … yet.  But if she does return, it’s gonna be great — ’cause it’s clear she still HATES her former castmates. When we asked if she’s spoken to any of the women, Staub shot back — ‘No, I have absolutely no interest in speaking to any of them.’ Awesome!!!” Danielle also said that if what she is reading on Twitter is true, she has “compassion and empathy” for Teresa Giudice.

UPDATE October 21, 2012, TMZ reported: “There are absolutely ZERO PLANS to bring Danielle Staub back to ‘Real Housewives’ … despite her meeting with Andy Cohen … this according to very well-placed sources. TMZ posted footage of Staub exiting a meeting with the Bravo honcho earlier this week … and she hinted that a possible return to the ‘Real Housewives of New Jersey’ could be in the works. But network sources tell TMZ … Staub left such a bad taste in the mouths of producers when she was fired from the show back in 2010, that there’s NO WAY they would even consider bringing her back. However, we’re told Andy and Danielle got along well during the meeting — fact is, Andy’s a good businessman so he’s keeping the door open for other possible projects down the line.”

Joe and Teresa brought these issues up on camera during the reunion so that the show’s six million viewers would get the stories that only the 100,000 or so viewers who follow the blogs and Twitter have been reading.

On October 18, 2012, Johnny Karagiorgis (@JohnnyTheGrk) gave an interview to Real Housewives Blog, where he disclosed more dirt on Melissa (be sure to read the entire exceptional interview — excerpts below):

When you mess with peoples livelihood, they tend to come out with guns blazing and are willing to spill everything that you are hiding. This is why John and Penny along with Kim D agreed to “set Melissa up” at the Fashion Show. Melissa used to be a frequent customer of Chateau Allure Salon when it was owned by a former “man friend” of hers. His name is Robert, and he made two purchases that still hang off her chest. She and her bridal party had their hair/make-up done there before she married Joe. Before Melissa was on the show she used to tell those stylists: “I can’t stand that bitch (Teresa). I am going to get on that show one way or another and destroy her.” Several of the stylists still work for Penny. Melissa has been bragging about Penny not being shown in the Finale Episodes saying: “I got that bitch edited out.” Melissa and producer Cat Rodriguez are very close, they tweet each other all the time.

Well, part of their story [of how they met] is true. They did initially meet in Cancun, that part is true. But, she was there with a different guy. Joe was very into her, she was not into him. It was not love at first site as they say. What really happened was Joe was let’s say, “a love sick puppy” about Melissa. She wouldn’t give him the time of day. He tracked her down at Lookers while she was working there. No, she didn’t work there for a week, 2 weeks, a month or a summer (as she has previously stated – not even she can get her story right). She worked their consecutively over a year. She was “dating” a friend of Joe’s. And only when she found out how big his house was and how much money he had did she ever want anything to do with him. So does that make her a Golddigger, Abso-fuckin’-lutely!

Angelo has no reason to lie [about Melissa being a dancer]. She was well known at Lookers. She was also well known for a girl who gave “extras” for her alleged “partying”, clothes, breasts, jewelry. You name it. She probably got from being on her knees. And Lookers was NEVER owned by a member of Melissa’s family. Not a cousin, uncle or any relative of hers. It is still open and owned by the original owner. [People that John knows very well.] Now let’s be clear; no one is saying stripping is bad or you’re a bad person if that’s how you chose to pay your bills. But why lie about it? Own it and move on.

[Melissa] did get a college diploma. After she got her GED. She was working at Lookers and going to New Jersey State College. Did she ever teach. No. She was a a student teacher/ teacher’s aid and after two weeks she told Joe she couldn’t handle it. So she never actually taught and never obtained a teaching certificate in any state. She went to work as his secretary. She basically went from Ho to Housewife.

Of course she is [going to get what's coming to her in the next season]. When people are coming forward and say “you’re gonna deny, this or that? You’re going to tell me I didn’t buy you those because you did this for me?” Really?!?! Melissa is going to get what is coming to her. She had her make-up artist attack my wife calling her a “coke-whore” and she looks like a “crack-ho” (For the record Penny has never touched a drug in her life.) Do you really want to go down that road with me? Do you really want to know who the coke whore was? Do you really want to know who it was that sucked guys off to accommodate their habits for free, free nights at shore houses, or for other free shit? I will only warn once, and our friends are all ready to come forward when I ask them to.

[Joe Gorga] deserves the truth and should have shut his mouth and listen to what his sister had to say. We know of many people who would go public and speak on camera with explicit info that would expose the truth. Enough is enough. They’ve bashed businesses, attacked on twitter with troll accounts, had their employees attack, and had others on twitter come after us. We’ve received threatening phone calls, and every time I invite them to step up or shut up. Still never confronted.

The “Robert” mentioned above is probably Robert Palumbo, who, according to a source, used to own La Chateau when Melissa was a patron, and now runs Robert Palumbo Hair Design in North Arlington, New Jersey.

“Melissa, you were nothing more then a handoff from Joe’s friends, wasn’t he third in line? Love at first sight my ass. Yea he saw you in Cancun while his and your friends had ‘fun’ from the very first day, but you wanted nothing to do with him until he caught up with you at Lookers with one of his friends you were actually going out with. Another joke. F*cking hand me down. Then you found out he had money and you went on the prawl. Shall I continue? Nah, I’ll save it for when Penny gets on the show and one at a time we’ll be getting our hair done by Penny and Robert and exposing everything. Oh, you remember Robert don’t you? Lol, Season 5 will be interesting.” – ‘Melissa’s Former Friend’, March 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH

John Karagiorgis ‏tweeted this at 12:24 PM on October 18, 2012:

“I didn’t spill anything but a few beans that were already out there. @PDKhair has the ‘Untold Story’. Trust me.”

Melissa’s nemesis Penny Drossos (@PDKhair) is holding back on the dirt she has on Melissa so that if will air on the show and be blasted to all six million viewers.

Melissa took a dig at Penny (without naming her) in her final blog for season 4 and her sister Kim Pirrella did as well:

“As you can see, there are many desperate people on Twitter begging to be on the show. None of them get cast. It’s not Bravo’s style. The more you want it, the less likely you are to get it.” – Melissa Gorga, October 16, 2012, Bravo Blog

“Its quite comical that @johnnythegrk banked on being cast on rhwnj even charging a new set of teeth for @pdkhair and BRAVO PASSED!! LMFAO” – Retweeded by Kim Pirrella, October 14, 2012 (during the premiere of part 3 of the reunion special), Twitter

“Penny has a long history with Melissa, and knew Melissa long before her housewife days. In fact, when Melissa was casted for RHONJ, she actually called Penny [who she was not on good terms with her at the time] to boast” [anonymous e-mail published at StoopidHousewives.com].

A Twitter follower alerted Penny to Melissa’s comment in her Bravo blog:

Ko @Keena620
@melissagorga threw a dig at @PDKhair and her hubby in her new blog. Penny plz call this bitch out
7:00 AM – 17 Oct 12

Ko Ko ‏@Keena620
@PDKhair she said there are many desperate ppl on Twitter begging to be on the show. Hmmm made me think of u. I wish bravo would cast u.
7:40 AM – 17 Oct 12

Here are Penny’s responses:

Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga she did wt! Really Mel u want to go there! How did u meet Joe ? Bitch
7:32 AM – 17 Oct 12

Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga when you came back didn’t you say he wasn’t your type! Go bitch u want to play lets play how’s Fred Caruso bitch
7:33AM – 17 Oct 12

Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga tell everyone how you lied to him about ur first day you “taught” n you cried to him that it was too stressful
7:35AM – 17 Oct 12

Penny Drossos @PDKhair
@Keena620 @melissagorga joe felt bad for you n told u to quit n you worked for him does Joe know exactly who he married? I doubt he does
7:38AM – 17 Oct 12

Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
@Keena620 I’m not desperate she’s scared big difference.cause if I come on I don’t alone..
7:46 AM – 17 Oct 12

Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
@Keena620 YES the producers did come to my house in aug to interview me..
7:48 AM – 17 Oct 12

Penny Drossos ‏@PDKhair
@Keena620 I try I’m far form perfect n I know it .. I’m human but I don’t but up a front I am who I am .Thank u honey for the heads up 2day
7:52 AM – 17 Oct 12

In December 2003, the Fred Caruso that Penny referred to in the tweet above was named as a defendant in a law suit for third degree aggravated assault, causing “significant bodily injury under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life in a reckless manner” at a club called Club XS in Seaside Heights, NJ. And in October 2006, Fred Caruso  from Clifton New Jersey was sentenced for conspiracy to distribute Ecstasy, retaliate against a witness and commit kidnapping:

“According to testimony presented at trial, on February 24, 2002, Van Cleve Ashley, age 38, of New Jersey, was sentenced to 34 years on February 8, 2007 for conspiring with Fred Caruso and Ramaine York to shoot to death Thomas D. Dixon, Jr. to prevent Dixon from appearing as a witness in the federal case of U.S. v. Fred Caruso and to retaliate against Dixon for providing law enforcement officers with information about Caruso’s criminal activities. Caruso provided Ashley with a semi-automatic pistol, a photograph of Dixon and directions to Dixon’s house. Caruso paid Ashley $10,000. Ashley then solicited the help of York, providing him with the gun and directions to Dixon’s house. York traveled from New Jersey to Maryland and shot Dixon multiple times. Dixon was flown to shock trauma where he remained hospitalized for months, but survived the attack.  Both Caruso and York had previously pled guilty to witness retaliation and testified at trial against Ashley. Judge Garbis sentenced Caruso to 163 months. York was sentenced in federal court in New Jersey to 10 years. United States Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein praised the Drug Enforcement Administration, and the Baltimore County Police Department for their investigative work.”

Reader Comments:

‘The Source’ on April 9, 2012 said at AllAboutTRH:

Are you f*cking kidding me Melissa? Does this advice [include] meeting your ex at Sushi Lounge 2 years ago? Or your other ex’s in Bayonne or Lyndhurst? Dying for explanation! But we’ll get that when your skank ass is exposed by Penny & Johnny and don’t you worry, we’re all lining up. Tommy, Vinny, Mike C, Freddy C, and that’s just naming a few.

JanShe on May 30, 2012 said at AllAboutTRH:

Those photos are going to be coming out soon, you know, the ones of her with her ex, while she was married to Joe Gorga. The photos could be with one of the boys from Bayonne, another ex in Lyndhurst, Tommy, Butch/Bulldog, Brian, Ronald aka Gus, MikeC, Freddy, Vinny, or how about “group sex pics” during spring break, OR how about someone that hasn’t been named yet, haha. There is plenty more that hasn’t been put out there yet. Mel has nothing to worry about right………..LOL.

SharShar68 on 2012/10/15 said at Fame-Whorgas:

Johnny the Greek is not going to let the figurative “cat out of the bag” on Twitter because that’s their ticket onto the show. If Bravo wants to vindicate Teresa, they should cast Penny and let her expose the stripper/thief. It’s only fair AND Melissa isn’t generating big bucks for Bravo with her failed music career (unlike Teresa and her various ventures).

The fact that Joe Gorga-Marco (his new name) said that he didn’t feel upset or as he put it, “didn’t feel anything” during the televised barrage of insults spewed at Teresa by Juicy speaks volumes about his character. How could he not feel a thing? That’s your blood, fool. Your sister!! His lack of empathy proves he’s a sleazy sociopath that is so blinded by love for Stripper/Thief that he can’t think straight. Perhaps THAT’S WHY your relationship with your parents is strained.

Juicy Joe gets more attractive by the minute, and I’m not kidding. Out of all the “mo-mo’s” as he so eloquently put it, he was the only one that made any sense. Say what you will about him, I believe he really loves Teresa and they’ll stay together forever.

Jacqueline is a mess. I feel bad for Chris. I bet he’s regretting picking Wacky Jackie over his fiancee – who by the way was really good friends with Dina (they worked together at the nail salon). Jacqueline needs help – stat! She’s so unhinged and so obviously mentally unstable. She’s not fit to care for a special needs child – if in fact, Nicholas is “autistic”. Like a commentator above me stated earlier, I believe Nicholas is healthy but the Manzo/Laurita clans are setting us up to believe that “BLK” cured him. Keep in mind folks, Chris Laurita is $55M in the hole. It’s not that far fetched but definitely disgusting.

hoolie on 2012/10/15 said at Fame-Whorgas:

Agree that right now, JTG is holding back, and using the information he claims as his last trump card to get Penny on the show. I fear though, that Bravo is playing him “like a fiddle” on this though. The one common thread I have read on the variety of blogs is the “dark content” of season 3/4. If they were to bring JTG/Penny on the show to ‘out’ melissa, this would just be a continuation of the ‘dark’ theme. Yes, I think many initially would feel ‘justice’ for Teresa if this happened, but remember – it always seems to be “Teresa’s fault” and this scenario would do nothing to bring the family relationship back to better standing.

Personally, myself, I would love to see Meho and Slojo outed. I guess we will just have to wait and see. Alot depends on casting for season 5. I understand that they should be announcing this soon (not sure when, only that it would happen ‘after’ the reunion).

Random Thoughts on Part 3 of the Season 4 RHONJ Reunion Special

By InHWFan, Guest Blogger
October 16, 2012

Here are some of my random thoughts on part 3 of the reunion show, in no particular order:

1. Joe Giudice wins husband of the year…hands down.

I know he’s spoken sharply to Teresa, but he stood by her and defended her. I don’t believe he’s ever cheated but, if he has, it’s not really anyone’s business. Regardless of his alleged extra-curricular activities, he put everyone in their place, which I enjoyed. I loved how he talked to Kathy…she had it coming.

I also thought it was funny how he called everyone out on their business, but I noticed he did not do that to Caroline. He told Caroline she was a know it all, but only in response to her comments about his marriage to Teresa. He could have really gone after Caroline, especially after how she treated Teresa, but he didn’t. I wonder why? He also never said one negative word to Chris Laurita. I think Joe respects them both, even though they’ve done some crappy things.

2. Jacqueline Laurita gets called out for being a stripper who fooled around with an engaged Chris, who broke off the engagement because Jacqueline got pregnant.

Chris Laurita looks incredibly hurt and upset he had to be there and that Joe outed Jacqueline as a stripper, hence Joe Giudice’s back peddling. I have no doubt it’s a lie where Chris stated he met Jacqueline — as evidenced by Jacqueline’s constant need to bring it up and Caroline not putting Teresa in her place when Teresa accused Caroline of being the one who outed Jacqueline.

I also found it interesting no one refuted Joe Giudice’s claim that Chris was engaged and was fooling around with Jacqueline. No one even touched that…if anything, that would be the claim I would be upset about. If I stripped, fine…who cares? But if I broke up an engagement because I got pregnant, I wouldn’t want that little tid-bit out there for the world to know about. That’s just me.

3. Joe Giudice calls out Joe Gorga on borrowing money every week to pay his bills.

Joe Gorga’s facial expressions when Joe Giudice said, ”Why don’t you pay your bills? You have to borrow money every week from people,” was PRICELESS. The camera only flashed on him for a second, but if you go back and watch that section, Joe Gorga looks like a deer in headlights and is clearly afraid.

4. Kathy and Richie are made for each other.

They both are incredibly gross with their commentary. I mean, who in the hell wants to know that Richie’s penis is Kathy’s alarm clock? If Teresa and Joe would have said something like that, they would be horrible people. But, when Kathy makes such a statement, it’s fine. I couldn’t believe she made that comment on national television. There are some things your kids don’t need to hear about, and your father’s boner is one of them. I also think it’s funny how irrelevant they are. The editing on the reunion show just proved that!

5. Joe Gorga lies about Teresa taking their parents away from him.

Joe Gorga’s screeching on national television that Teresa took away his parents and it’s Teresa’s fault his children don’t have grandparents was interesting. The WWHL show with Melissa confirmed that one of them is lying. Who knows which one…and, frankly, it doesn’t matter. The point is, THEY ARE LYING. But the screeching was also very telling. Remember back to Season 3, Episode 1 with the Christening…Do you remember what Joe Gorga’s parents said to him? They called him selfish and a mama’s boy. They also said he wasn’t a man and only thought about himself. I couldn’t help but think about those words during this situation. Joe Gorga isn’t a man…his wife runs his life because she keeps his balls in her purse and holds her vagina over his head (pardon the crude statements, but it’s the best depiction of these people, in my mind).

6. Caroline says ALL of them would be together, again, one day, and they would be laughing about all this ridiculous behavior.

I hate to talk about Caroline because she’s so enraging, but I found her statements at the end of the show very interesting.  I’m wondering if Caroline realizes how stupid she’s been by turning against Teresa. I’m sure all this hatred stems from business ventures. I wonder if Caroline has realized it is better to be on Teresa’s good side rather than her bad side because everything she touches turns to gold, and that could be good for her good-for-nothing offspring. Just a thought…

I also thought it was interesting she couldn’t own up to her statements regarding Teresa’s marriage and stated it was a hypothetical. Hypothetical my ass! If her statement was a hypothetical and it’s perfectly acceptable for her to say that to the world, what is really so wrong with Teresa telling her brother, in a private, off camera, conversation, that she heard people were saying Melissa would leave Joe for someone more wealthy? I do not understand the difference…maybe someone can explain?

7. No one really explained what Teresa should have done to stop the setup at the Posche Fashion Show.

Everyone is going on and on and on and on and on that Teresa knew what was going to happen. From the cameras, I did not get that, and I do not believe Teresa knew Melissa was going to be targeted that night. I don’t really want to get into that because I’m of the opinion Melissa had a set-up coming for the Danielle nonsense (which I will come back to). What I found interesting was no one really explained what Teresa should have done to stop the situation. When Teresa heard rumors about Melissa not being so upstanding, she went to Joe privately and discussed it with him. Joe then made it public. Who is to say that if Teresa had approached Melissa privately about this entire charade, Melissa would have believed her and not been convinced Teresa was trying to cause trouble?

8. Danielle and Melissa’s relationship was completely overlooked.

Danielle and Melissa’s relationship was completely overlooked and I, for one, and very annoyed that Teresa couldn’t call her out. The other cast members state that Teresa doesn’t move on, but I think she moved on from that one and got over it. Just my opinion, though.

9. Jacqueline is seriously disturbed and needs to cut out the botox.

When Chris was talking about Nicholas, look at Jac’s face — there wasn’t even an expression. It was eerie and really odd. She’s also incredibly hateful and mean. I understand Teresa may have wronged her (although I’m still trying to figure out how that occurred), but the mean and nasty comments coming from her are totally cruel and unwarranted. Teresa was right… Jac’s life revolves around Teresa.

10. Melissa has set herself up to leave Joe Gorga when he runs out of money.

Melissa……I’ve waited until last to really talk about her. I read this someplace else, but I state it here because I agree. I think Melissa has set herself up to leave Joe Gorga when he runs out of money. Family drama can pull a relationship apart…maybe she’ll use all of this drama as a reason to divorce him? “It was just too much stress for me” is a line I can hear her saying sometime in the future. I also think Season 5 will be about healing, and Melissa will try to portray herself as a sympathetic individual, but it won’t turn out well for her. Most people know otherwise. I also think we’ll see more created drama about Teresa and Melissa.

Some final thoughts…

For a very long time, I have thought Andy and Bravo were after Teresa, but after reading a blog entry here explaining that Bravo has always perceived Teresa as the star, my opinion has changed. I think Andy really questions Teresa because he wants to give her the floor to get her story out there. I think Andy doesn’t really question the others because he knows no one cares…and he’d be right! I think Andy finds Joe Gorga laughable. Did you see Andy’s condescending look on his face when they were talking about Gorga’s Chip-in-Dale days? Andy looked like he was enjoying it because it made Joe Gorga look foolish…that’s just me. I also think Andy knows Melissa’s singing voice isn’t that great…he told her he would give her a chance to sing on WWHL. I think that was a dig.

By Melissa Gorga, ‘The Teresa-Kim Set-Up’
October 16, 2012

Here are Melissa’s random lies and delusions from her final blog for season 4; the excerpt below excludes her tips on diet, makeup and style to spare you from that nonsense:

The fact is we’ve always had our issues and the Joes have always had theirs.

Whether you love me or hate me, you know when I tell you something I’m going to give you an honest answer.

The support for my music is more than I could have ever asked for.

Danielle saw the sprinkle cookie story on Facebook and inboxed me. She did ask me to film with her, and I declined.

Teresa and I weren’t even speaking at the time, and it wasn’t because of the show. It was because of hurtful comments she used to say to me that I would constantly brush off. I always smiled at her and let it go. Yes, it sat in my head, and yes, a lot of the comments she used to make are very similar to the ones you’ve seen her say to me for the last two seasons. The thing is I never threw the first punch. I pretty much took anything she threw at me in the beginning.

Then as Joe and I started really building our family and becoming more successful, Teresa and Juicy’s comments would become more and more hurtful. Sometimes I would brush them off and Joe just wouldn’t be able to. We would leave their house and just say, “What the hell was that?” Mind you this was years before the show. So did I speak to Danielle? Yes. Did I meet with Danielle? No. To this day I have never met Danielle in person.

Did I ever try to get on the show before I was asked to be on it? NO! I never once asked Teresa to put me or my family on the show. I’ve never called a producer and there was no audition tape where we said we will “take down” Teresa.

As you can see, there are many desperate people on Twitter begging to be on the show. None of them get cast. It’s not Bravo’s style. The more you want it, the less likely you are to get it. You didn’t see a lot of us because of the circumstances I just described above.

You want real talk. I remember when Teresa got offered the show. She was at my house for dinner and we were all discussing it as a family. Most were telling her not to do it. I told her to go for it. I said take the opportunity. If I had been jealous I wouldn’t have told her to go for it. I also called her and said congrats when she got it! To be honest, I thought it would calm her down with me. I thought this would help her feel like she “wins” — that she is the best. I thought she would feel more secure now and stop coming at me so we could just be a family. I was so wrong about that. It just got worse. Whatever little “need to be the best” bug that was inside of her was biting her harder. It started to become out of control. The truth is a few years later the producers contacted me and we took that same opportunity.

Do I still think Teresa set me up? Yes. Kim’s story has changed so many times since that night I can’t keep up. She did set me up, she didn’t set me up, there was no set up.

It was proven in the footage when Angelo said Teresa knew, because he also said “Kim and Teresa wanted me to do this thing.”

Then Kim D. comes to the reunion and admits Teresa knew it was a set up for me. It’s all right there, and honestly I know in my heart what she was doing. It’s written all over her face. Of course she was in on it. More importantly, why isn’t Teresa mad at KIM? Why isn’t she mad at her for doing this to her brother’s wife?

When we first started the show, we only owned one building. Now we own four or five. Joe was the only one bringing in money for the last few years, because I didn’t work and I was with the kids. Now we are both bringing in money… We do pay our mortgage and we are NOT broke.

The truth is this: we put our house up to get away from the negativity. I have to protect my family. I don’t want my children around anyone, including family that is speaking badly about me or trying to put me down. I see it happening already. I couldn’t believe what my nieces were saying about me, and as the girls get older it will only get worse. Then they will begin to tell my children what they hear about me from their mother. I can’t have that. I won’t have it.

I just started working with someone huge in the music industry, so I’m excited to see where it goes. I truly feel like whatever is meant to be will be. If it succeeds even more, great! If it doesn’t, I love my life and my family, and I’m happy either way. That’s what is most important. I love when people come up to me and tell me how they are following their dreams too now after watching me. I get choked up every time. I can’t explain how that makes me feel.

Related:

• Melissa Gorga is a Pathological Liar Who Most Likely Suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder
• Melissa Gorga’s Best Quotes and Lies

Dina Manzo Reveals How Bravo Edited Her Conversation with Teresa Giudice at the Fabellini Launch Party

RHONJ Season 1 Episode 3 – Danielle’s Spa Party

Just to clear things up…

By Dina Manzo, DinaManzo.com
October 17, 2012

A lot of you are wondering why in the world I would film with Teresa after staying away from the housewives for so long. Let me first say that I’ve gone to every single one of Teresa’s parties that I’ve been invited to, most of which the cameras were NOT rolling. When Teresa asked me to attend the fabellini launch my first question was “will there be cameras there?” She said yes, but you can come after they leave”…as I have done in the past. But that’s not where it ended…

(What most of you don’t know and you can choose to believe this or not, but up until the night of the deck debacle and Teresa showed up at my doorstep crying, I had no idea that she was even fighting with Caroline and Jacqueline — that’s how much I stayed out of that bullshit; and even after that night I had no idea of the extent of the hate until I watched it live with all of you.)

Now back to the fabellini launch…I showed up 2 1/2 hours late hoping the cameras would already be gone (I know that it was naive of me). I was promised that I didn’t have to be mic’d at first, just show that I was there to support Teresa. When I arrived one of the producers took me aside and explained to me that Teresa was really taking a beating this season and needed some much needed “on air” support. As a friend I felt bad for her; as a human being I never like to see anyone standing alone (I was always that girl in the lunch room who went to sit with the loner in the corner of the cafeteria). It is also why I was so quick to forgive Danielle at the reunion. I don’t like when everyone is against one person and I certainly don’t like to see this happen to someone I care about.

Teresa has always supported me and has especially always supported Project Ladybug. She has come to every charity event I have ever asked her to and never complained taking this time out of her crazy schedule to help me.

At the time I was even under the impression she was doing celebrity apprentice for ladybug. In the end she chose another worthy foundation. Was I disappointed at first??? Absolutely, but she explained to me how she met this beautiful little boy with a rare disease and it really hit home for her. Now how can I be mad at her for helping a sick child? I was proud of her for giving a foundation that I was told had no prior national exposure a platform. BUT I would be lying if I also didn’t feel a bit obligated to be there for her “on air” too because of this.

I would cut off my right bubbie for these kids, and one quick scene on housewives didn’t seem that bad at the time…Boy was I wrong. Do not mix booze with raw emotions… Let me first explain that 90% of our convo was about her brother and Melissa. That is where the “blood is thicker than water” comment came in. Think about it, does it make sense that Teresa would bring that up about her and Caroline’s relationship?? You guys are smarter than that…

Now from my understanding this scene was shot AFTER even the reunion and things with her brother was worse than ever. I was explaining to Teresa that blood is NOT always thicker than water when her brother has to get in bed with his WIFE every night and not her….and we all know (unfortunately) about Joe Gorga’s poison. Water wins in this case every time! TRUST ME!!

So here I am giving Teresa advice to just give her brother his space, then she brings up my sister…did you see the look on my face? I was pissed but before you go getting mad at T, I’m sure the producers convinced her this was a good idea. I could be mad at her but I understand the position she was in. I also understood via text from Jacqueline that I was a topic of not only season 3′s reunion that was just filmed but throughout season 4 as well. A part of me felt I should say my peace and I was pissed I was even brought up — I don’t know who did it and at this point I don’t even care.

I had also had a few fabellinis on an empty stomach after a LONG day of shooting for HGTV and there was a lot of hurt off camera with my family who is on the show. So I went ahead and said how I felt about the joke in the book. Do I regret talking about it on camera? Was it wrong of me?? Yes yes yes… But it’s done and I can’t take it back. I should have walked away but I didn’t. I do feel that this book nonsense is all that — nonsense…but I regret talking about it on film.

Ok… It’s now Sunday night — I wrote this before I saw the last reunion tonight…I still feel the same about regretting filming but I DO NOT feel bad about defending Teresa. I know what it’s like to be on the other end of something like this and I don’t think it’s cool and, for the record AGAIN, she had nothing to do with my issues with my family; in fact, as I said before, my issues stem back all the way from season 1.

Teresa and the girls were buddy buddy up until last year, so please stop saying I chose her over my family…it’s really annoying. I would also like to say that I have 11 siblings…my family does not consist of just who is on this show and, yes, I do talk to the other 9 and I’m quite close to many of them and my parents. So enough with thinking I will die alone please…

I will publicly say I think they ALL handled this wrong…I begged some of the players (I won’t go into who) to just respond with kindness and all this will end. But I understand how emotions can get the best of you…they did tonight after I watched the show. I do wish all this could end. I don’t like seeing people, especially WOMEN and FAMILY, fight like this. If you can’t get along with someone or you feel that they just don’t like you…JUST STAY AWAY. Well at least that’s what works for me… you can completely FORGIVE people for how they treated you, but it doesn’t mean you have to go back for more. Do you guys get it??? Thanks for listening.

~ Peace out

Dina’s Tweets When Episode 18: ‘Dinasty of Denial’ Premiered on September 9, 2012:

Bravo’s Description: Teresa invites her longtime ally and sister of the enemy, Dina, to her Fabellini release party.

donna dameron tweeted:

I love @dinamanzo but that expression on her face when @Teresa_Giudice started talking. Weird like she knew it was coming! #RHONJ

Dina Manzo replied:

@donna_1004 no I was actually fuming because I didn’t want to talk about anything but the launch.
10:53 PM – 9 Sep 12

Dina Manzo tweeted:

No I don’t think T was lying AT ALL, just think this was filmed after the reunion as an extra scene~see how much I didn’t get involved?

They cut 90% of the convo out of course! Ahhh it is what it is. Not gonna get upset over it!

that was actually to tell her that I wasn’t filming anymore and to leave me out of the drama.

I’m reading your tweets…mixed.No one knows MY whole story & they never will. I keep it quiet & would LOVE for all to get along. #thatsall

I guess it was the fabilini and I got suckered...this whole argument IS laughable to me & silly and very Jr. High & I’ll stick to that.

I’m not even going to bother tweeting anymore…I begged them not to be mic’d but was there to support her because she always supports me.

Oh their cuttin the shit up…grrrr I should have known better…I made that comment when she was talking about her & Joe. It is what it is.

No I don’t think T was lying AT ALL, just think this was filmed after the reunion as an extra scene~see how much I didn’t get involved?

I don’t know…I’m so confused…Teresa told me no one was there to support her & they weren’t speaking at that point.

hmmm this is weird, most of my convo was about T & her brother, giving her advice about them not speaking. But they’ve got them speaking at this point….I went to this party on the last day of filming…after the fashion show.

Wow lots of hype on here about me on HWs tonight…I don’t want to disappoint~ I’m literally on for 2 minutes & didn’t say anything scathing.

Alexis Alexis tweeted:

i love that @dinamanzo is calling out @BravoAndy for the editing, lol.

Dina Manzo replied:

@drellnco @BravoAndy lol no I’m not…he doesn’t edit I think he’s kinda busy.

@BravoAndy sorry Mr. Cohen : / I still love you <3

RHONJ Season 1 Episode 3 – Housewives Discover Book About Danielle and Danielle Confronts Teresa and Jacqueline