Caroline Manzo Is Trying to Breakup Teresa Giudice’s Family Because She’s Convinced Herself That Teresa Broke Up Hers; Kathy Wakile and Joe and Melissa Gorga Support Caroline’s Evil Plan to Defame Teresa (Updated 9/15/2012)

“I think Teresa has an agenda to drive a wedge against myself and family members, especially Dina.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Episode 18

“I hold Teresa responsible for the pain in my life and the relationships that are hurting.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Episode 18

“I hold Teresa responsible for the relationships that are hurting in my life. She puts the wood on my family’s fire, I put the lid on hers.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4, Episode 6

“The tipping point was the cookbook and all the stories I’ve heard about you over the years.” – Caroline Manzo to Melissa Gorga and Kathy Wakile About Teresa Giudice, Season 4 Episode 17

“I never really hung up with Caroline. I always hung out with her younger sister Dina and Jacqueline.” – Teresa Giudice, Season 4 Episode 18

“We were never really friends. She was an acquaintance; she was very good friends with my sister… I think Jacqueline suffered the biggest blow here… We vacationed together. We were in the same crew. We went to dinners a lot, but was there ever a time I would pick up the phone and say, ‘What are you doing?’ No. So there’s no friendship, and I’m not bothered by it.” – Caroline Manzo, October 12, 2011, The Gayle King Show

“Why did her own brother call her garbage? And the banging on the table thing? Must be a Gorga trait. Something in their DNA maybe? It just wasn’t adding up. Was I missing something? Teresa never talked that much about her brother or Melissa with me. I’d seen them at all of her parties, but never noticed if they talked to each other. I think I just assumed that all was well. Up until this point I hadn’t heard anything that would make me think there were such deep issues between her and her brother that he would call her garbage.” – Jacqueline Laurita, May 23, 2011, Second Bravo Blog for Season 3

“I’ve been in the car with her when she was on the phone with her mother, poisoning her mother’s mind against her brother and Melissa and Kathy.” – Caroline Manzo, Lying About Teresa Behind Her Back in Her Talking Head Interview, Season 4 Episode 17

“I’ve never heard one kind word out of Teresa’s mouth regarding Melissa. I have heard golddigger, whore, she was a stripper. I cannot be the length this person would go to hurt. I have the luxury of walking away.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Episode 18

Caroline Manzo is lying — Teresa didn’t talk trash about her family to her. Caroline is on record in October 2011 as saying she and Teresa were never really friends and that they were simply on the same crew. However, a month earlier, in September 2011, during season 4 episode 18, she tells Kathy and Melissa that Teresa talked bad about them to her for years. And in Caroline’s talking head interview, she even stretches the lie to include Teresa’s mother. Earlier, in May 2011, we have Jacqueline writing in her blog that Teresa never talked much about her brother or Melissa with her. So we are supposed to believe Caroline — even though Teresa was never her friend and she was only in her presence when Jacqueline or Dina were around — when she says that Teresa was trash talking her family to Caroline, yet Jacqueline heard nothing? Of course Caroline is lying. Jacqueline went against family with Danielle in season 1, and she learned her lesson about suffering the wrath of Caroline, so Jacqueline has changed her story to match Caroline’s, and Jacqueline is now lying too.

“Jacqueline posted in her online blog back in May 2011 (after the first episode with the infamous christening throwdown) that Teresa didn’t really mention Melissa and Joe G. to her, so she had no idea things were so bad between them and was surprised Joe called his sister garbage. So which is it? Weren’t Caroline and Jacqueline insisting that Teresa has been badmouthing her family for a long time? I remember the episode when Teresa was describing the ‘cookie-gate’ incident when she threw away Melissa’s Christmas cookies. Caroline wasn’t acting like she’d heard that story before. When has Teresa allegedly talked bad about her family, because we don’t really see her do it on camera? She talked about some of her issues with them, but Jacqueline and Caroline are insisting the Teresa was making her family out to be a bunch of horrible people with horrible pasts, and she didn’t want her friends to have anything to do with them. When was this? Jacqueline was still friends with Teresa in May 2011, and she had no reason to lie then about not having heard anything about Melissa and Joe. In fact, it seems common that a friend would vent to another friend about family problems they’re having, so I didn’t see anything really wrong with it in the first place, but Jacqueline is now changing her story. And when you think about it, Teresa is usually private about certain matters, like her finances and problems she’s having, so it seems consistent that she wouldn’t tell even some of her close friends about her family issues. Plus, how did Caroline get in the mix? She always says she and Teresa were never friends, and you never really see them hanging out alone. How could Jacqueline be in the dark about Teresa’s family issues, but Caroline was somehow privy to everything? When was she in a car with Teresa overhearing her talk to her mother? Teresa has been called out for some of her lies for the last two seasons, but it’s time for the rest of the liars to be brought out, too. Jacqueline was either lying then or lying now.” – blumarine, September 14, 2011, Lipstick Alley

At least three of Caroline Manzo’s 10 siblings are not speaking to her. Caroline can’t own her own bad behavior — she blames Teresa for all her broken relationships, especially the feud with her sister Dina Manzo. Dina has stated over and over again that her feud with Caroline and Jacqueline has nothing to do with Teresa.

“She [Teresa] didn’t do anything that I know of to hurt them it’s all BS…everyone should play nice. That’s what I think.” – Dina Manzo, June 24, 2012, Twitter

Someone tweeted Dina on June 24, 2012, “@dinamanzo can u clear that u n Caroline not talking has nothing to do w Teresa! Plz!”, and  Dina replied, “I’ve said it over and over…check out my blog on dinamanzo.com.”

“I love the season 1 reunion where Caroline freaks on Danielle. Dina and Jaq are nervously laughing and Caroline is like, ‘I should forgive…..*crazy eyes* but I CAN’T!’ You can hear Dina saying, ‘Hey, cut it out’ and ‘Don’t start this’.” – Diggory17, June 23, 2012, IMDb.com

“Caroline…We are all waiting on those emails. I caught a clip of reunion 3 with Caroline saying that she and Jax have emails of proof that Teresa caused Dina to stop talking to them (and Teresa replying, ‘Bring it baby’). I am STILL waiting, lol.” – violetrose1460, June 21, 2012, IMDb.com

Note that Teresa’s Fabellini Launch Party, which Dina attended and Bravo filmed on October 7, 2011, was after the big blow up at the Posche Fashion Show (PFS) on September 27, 2011 (the evening before the reunion for season 3 was filmed); however, based on previews, it looks like Bravo plans to air the launch party first (out of sequence), during episode 18 (video), and the PSF as part of the season finale (episode 19). Also note that the launch party was filmed more than a month after Caroline’s verbal assault on Teresa, which was instigated by Kathy in the hot tub scene during episode 17.

Timeline of Events Surrounding the Season 4 California Trip, Season 3 Reunion, Season 4 Finale:

  • Washington, DC Fancy Food Show – July 8, 2011
  • Melissa takes Gabriella, Milania and Antonia to Sweet & Sassy for manicures and pedicures – July 11, 2011
  • Jamie Laurita’s wedding – July 23, 2011
  • Beatstock 2011 in Farmingville, NY – August 20, 2011
  • Caroline’s Birthday - August 23rd or 24th
  • Cast Arrives in California - August 28, 2011 (cast spends 2 nights at Half Moon Bay RV Resort and 1 or 2 nights at Cassini Ranch)
  • Caroline’s Birthday Dinner in the Vineyard - September 1, 2011
  • Final Dinner at the House with the Big Blow Up Between Caroline and Teresa - September 2 or 3, 2011
  • Posche Fashion Show (Season 4 Finale) – September 27, 2011
  • Taping of the Reunion Special for Season 3 – September 28, 2011
  • Fashion & Beauty Week 2011 at the Pleasantdale Chateau – October 3, 2011 (Caroline, Jacqueline, Melissa & Kathy attend and blacklist Teresa and Kim D)
  • Teresa’s Fabellini Launch Party (Taped for Season 4) – October 7, 2011
  • Sirius XM Radio to Launch ‘Real Housewives Radio’ (Taped for Season 4) – October 8, 2011
  • Jacqueline tweets that Teresa is scum, etc. during premiere of reunion 3 – October 16 & 23, 2011

Jacqueline has always had a nasty habit of running to the press and being an insider on different stories. She will go to magazines, blogs, and will even direct message people on Twitter. When she does this, she will often say nasty things, depending on who she is mad at or how she is feeling.

“If I get hurt I get nasty, and I got nasty because I was hurt.” – Jacqueline Laurita, Season 4 Episode 15

Regarding Dina and Jacqueline, in September 2010, Jacqueline, holding a grudge against Dina about something, went to LynnNChicago with a story that Dina’s Project Ladybug Foundation was not legit; it caused Dina a lot of problems just as the project was getting up and running; and, to make matters worse, Caroline did not back Dina, probably because, according to an ‘inside source’ (most likely Jacqueline) for Reality Tea:

“Project Ladybug was a charity started by ALL the Laurita sisters. When Dina went on the show [RHONJ], she took it over as if she was the founder and the blood, sweat, and tears behind it. She wanted the glory and the attention associated with Project Ladybug. She wanted to look like the hero.” Caroline and their other sister, Cookie Laurita, allowed Dina to take the lead and downplayed their involvement, but Dina “only speaks of Project Ladybug as if it were her own.” – ‘Inside Source’, March 10, 2012,  Reality Tea

“Dina has said many times she distanced herself from all of them, including Teresa. But she and Teresa did not fight, she just chose not to be around them because of RHNOJ. She ‘cooled’ the relationship. Dina and Caroline are a different story, which is all about project Ladybug. It was being attacked by bloggers back then, and Caroline would not defend Dina or the charity. Dina had access to Caroline’s Twitter and tweeted support using Caroline’s account! Lauren logged on and claimed her mom’s Twitter was ‘hacked’, and deleted the tweets! [@laurenmanzo 'some1 hacked into my moms account and wrote the 'please stop' tweet... I changed her password everything is fine!'] That is the reason they don’t talk. It has nothing to do with Teresa.” – SODA1, August 6, 2012, Reality Tea

Apparently, there was an issue with Dina’s charity where something was filled out incorrectly on a tax form — it was a mistake, which was being corrected, but Jacqueline, hiding behind the title of ‘inside source’, gave the story to LynnNChicago. She made it seem like Dina’s charity was a fraud. Caroline wasn’t saying or doing anything to stop the bad press Dina was receiving. Then Dina went on Caroline’s Twitter page and tweeted support for herself as Caroline. In response, Lauren (or Ashley) went and said that Caroline’s Twitter had been hacked (basically denying that they were supporting Dina).

“Dina Manzo’s temper got the better of her once again this week as people have been questioning her Project Ladybug charity. A document that I posted a few days ago, that I received from a Twitter friend (@Geoaubsmom), has sparked the interest of many people questioning how their donations to Project Ladybug are being used… Between the parody accounts and the Project Ladybug.pdf getting tweeted often by me to followers, different people, including Dina, she got fed up. Dina started on a tirade about haters and tweetholes… If Project Ladybug is completely legitimate, Dina Manzo should have nothing to hide; her anger and using sick children to gain sympathy for her cause really has to make you question what she’s doing here.” – Lynn Hudson, September 29, 2010, LynnNChicago101.wordpress.com (The Story That Started Charitygate)

“In an internet radio interview, @Geoaubsmom asked Jacqueline Laurita outright on Twitter if she heard the recent interview that Carly Hall did regarding Dina Manzo’s Project Ladybug Charity. Here is Jacqueline’s response on October 17, 2010: @JacLaurita: @geoaubsmom ‘I have. What do you expect me to say? I’m not getting involved in that. So I will just say, NO COMMENT to all those asking’.” – Lynn Hudson, October 18, 2010, LynnNChicago101.wordpress.com

“LynnNChicago has added to ‘Project Ladybug Woes’ on her site. It has now become a collection of document(s) and screen-shots of bizarre TWITTER messages. People who have made innocent (ok, maybe skeptically innocent) inquiries into the PL (PROJECT LADYBUG) financials have been met with emotionally charged messages, like ‘you are trying to hurt sick children!!!’ to THREATS that they have been reported to ‘authorities’. Lynn’s blog is abuzz with talk of PL today, and one commenter posted a link to a recent newspaper article (August 2010) that boasts donations of $20,000.” – Dina’s Still Being Pestered About PROJECT LADYBUG, September 30, 2010, North Jersey.com

Other tweets about Charitygate from that day in 2010:

@tinalsanders
I AM WONDERING THE SAME THING. RT @Gracecharles @AMerems just got home. WTH has been going on with @dinamanzo #tweethole

@BlessedSD
RT @dinamanzo: RM~Carry a positive, thankful, forward-looking attitude with you & wherever you go, you’ll be … http://tmi.me/1Pw7p

@jipsee
RT @dinamanzo: It baffles my mind why people need to be so hateful. Be nice, teach your children to be nice. Remember, they learn by exa …

@tinalsanders
Wow there was lots of drama @dinamanzo today! Not sure what happened?!

@tweeterlaura
@dinamanzo fact that #projectladybug doesnt release audited financials is a red flag. donations to ronald mcdonald go farther for the cause.

@OnlyMattMartin
@dinamanzo good for you dina!!!

@Twilighttwitti
@RealOldHouswife So where’s 2009 expenses? I think they got lost in the form of a new closet. @dinamanzo

@jennifersale
@dinamanzo LOL, thanks, I’m going back to work now…

@dinamanzo
@jennifersale no worries Mama~I’m on it. They r basically being charged w slander &harassment When they start calling me, they’re askin 4it

@PutYourHairUp
I c u r trying Jac’s brand of PR. Not buying it sry. RT: @Teresa_Giudice @PutYourHairUp your blogs are hilarious xx @momsthoughts @dinamanzo

@Twilighttwitti
@RealOldHouswife That’s what we want to know and 2010. @dinamanzo Where are the financials? Who’s on the payroll? What’s your cut.

@jennifersale
@Twilighttwitti I didn’t say @dinamanzo was my good friend. She is helping my friend with PL, and that’s why I felt compelled 2 defend.

@LettyRod
RT @privilegedmom: @dinamanzo thank you for all that YOU do for our children! God will bless your kindness!

@Twilighttwitti
@jennifersale It looks to me that @dinamanzo just started following you, so she wasn’t that good a friend to begin with.Dina is a #tweethole

@tweeterlaura
@dinamanzo does. RT @Teresa_Giudice: @geoaubsmom no, never heard of it. who has time for real Twitter and fake Twitter??? xx

@jennifersale
Ok, I just got yelled at because ONCE AGAIN my #dwts recap is late b/c I’m an army of one for @dinamanzo …

@PutYourHairUp
RT: @ksmckenzie @dinamanzo ur mad at @LynnNChicago n @PutYourHairUp cause they dont buy ur bs b mad at Tommy cause he doesn’t want 2 touch u

So Jacqueline started a very damaging rumor about Project Ladybug and Caroline basically did nothing to defend Dina. Jacqueline is a busy body, and both she and Caroline are liars.

The story was also picked up by: http://realcityhousewife.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-dina-manzo/

“Jacqueline just seems to have a problem. PERIOD. I know I’ve read comments from fans who said she DM’ed them. I believe she’s putting a lot of stories out there. I know she was feeding Danielle information in season 1 — that’s how it got out Caroline was behind the book. I think Jackie told Danielle that Caroline said Dina was behind it.” – Miza, 08-28-2012, TWP

The source for the LynnNChicago blog about Dina’s charity is Jacqueline, and Jacqueline would not have planted this story without Caroline’s backing. Jacqueline was also the source for a September 30, 2010, LynnNChicago story about Teresa’s financial situation (Jacqueline’s go-to blogger at the time was Lynn). Here’s the excerpt from that blog:

“I have received some inside information that outlines Teresa and Joe Giudice’s plan to get out of this financial mess. The plan was told directly to my source by Teresa. The plan is for Teresa to take on all the debt (which she’s already done) and spend a few months making those payments to make it look as though she’s trying to make it right and then re-file the bankruptcy to eliminate all debt once again. I was told that she and Joe thought that they were smarter than the authorities and she was laughing. I’m told Teresa continues to spend money like she has a money tree because her plan is to dump it all into the new bankruptcy when she refiles early next year.”

Check out some of Jacqueline’s tweets that confirm she is the source:

Another disgusting display of Teresa’s lies. Keep hanging yourself!Tell every1 the plan 2file 4bankruptcy#2 @how u laugh At beating the system!

Teresa,keep spending all the money u do &making profit from people w/ fake stories u sell. It will catch up to u.U never stopped spending.

The people hiding behind your fake twitters(ahem)w/0-9 followers r pathetic. Grow balls&say who u r.U know who I am.I put it out there.

“Caroline is an extremely negative person. And she is a fool. She has demonstrated this past season the emotional monster she really is. It is clear to see why family members have distanced themselves form her. It is also clear why Teresa’s family joined the show and has caused much distress that should have never occurred. When you pick a camera over your family and morals, you are a selfish pig! When her nephew died, she was not invited to the funeral (her brother told her not to go.) What did Caroline do that make her brother hate her so much that he refused to allow her to pay respects at the funeral? Yet, knowing this, this woman wants us to believe she is innocent in all the battles she has with her many siblings and her own mother? Everyone is out to get Caroline? It’s clear Caroline does consider Teresa family: she gave her the same treatment she has given so many of her other siblings. This woman needs some mental health assistance. She is not stable. I have seen many times on Twitter Caroline’s mother repeatedly asking the Manzo kids to stop sending nasty, vulgar, mean tweets to their other various family members. This is separate from Teresa. Poor Grandma is embarrassed with how petty, cruel and juvenile both Caroline and her adult children continue to be in public to their own family. Is it any wonder they are cruel to people outside the family if they can not even show respect inside their family. It speaks volumes of Teresa’s character that when she was on WWHL, she mentioned that she wanted to go back in the room (during season 4 episode 17) and tell Caroline off, but then she remembered her friend, Dina, and her mother, Nettie, and chose to just walk away and let it go because of how Dina and Caroline always say how they don’t want their mother to worry. I wish everyone else had the same respect for mama and papa Gorga that Teresa has for Nettie Laurita.” – Say What??, August 27, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com

The Manzo/Laurita camp (probably with Jacqueline, under Caroline’s instruction, leading the effort), claiming to be inside sources, have been spreading rumors via the internet throughout 2012 (see article about Tom Murro) that Dina’s and Teresa’s friendship is a business relationship just for show.

AllAboutTRH Covered One of the Fake Stories Reported by Reality Tea

For those of you who don’t know, former New Jersey housewife Dina Manzo had a fallout with her sister Caroline Manzo and sister in law Jacqueline Laurita. Many are not exactly sure what the reason is but there have been several rumors starting from blaming Teresa and Dina simply being over the drama with her in law. Dina is known for being a ‘charitable girl’ and Jacqueline “sources” recently told Reality Tea that everything is all for show including her friendship with Teresa Giudice.

From Reality Tea:

“Little Mrs Charity……is not who everyone thought she was,” our source asserts. “Dina’s social media image is SO farfetched from who the ‘real’ Dina is. Those who really know her just shake their heads and laugh.”

If you’re wondering if Dina and Caroline Manzo have patched things up, the answer is no. They’re still not speaking; nor is Dina speaking to Jacqueline. Many have wondered how Dina could continue her friendship with Teresa, particularly after all the drama with Caroline, and the answer is money! Apparently, the two have a completely business relationship built around mutual favor.

“Teresa taped a segment for her party planning show, Dina’s Party. She needs Teresa to help her with her popularity. In return, Dina attended her beverage launch party and was filmed by Bravo. Their interaction was so fake,” the insider describes.

“Dina also wants to come out with a book and she wants to use the same publishing house as Teresa. So, basically it is a business deal. Dina may take to Twitter to praise Teresa but, that is not what she claims behind the scene.”

So how did Dina respond to this? She wrote:

“@realitytea hey just read ur post! Next time u want a source #truth ask my parents or the parents of a ladybug not an envious loser! Thanks!”

Well well well, I wonder who Dina is talking about! It sounds like Jacqueline is behind this story. Jacqueline has given scoops about RHONJ and also provided a nasty scoop about her sister-in-law Dina to LynnNChicago that she was warned about. I wonder why Chris Laurita, Dina’s brother and Jacqueline’s husband, doesn’t ever stop Jac? If it was Jac behind this story, that’s just sad. Another reason I think it’s most likely Jacqueline is because when word got out that Dina filmed a little part with Teresa on season 4, Jacqueline messaged me about it and called out Dina for doing it:

“For someone who claims she wants to ‘AVOID drama’ she sure picked a heck of a time to go film with Teresa when she would never film with her own family and then she tweets some of the antagonizing comments that mostly only her family understand, and also she sent that blog the way she did to cover her tracks. She claims to be ZEN.”

http://www.allabouttrh.com/dinaresponds/

More tweets from Dina after the story broke out:

Jacqueline Gave an Exclusive Interview to LynnNChicago, Posted on April 23, 2012

“There is a Trump connection, they have the same publicist company and the charity that Teresa is playing for is also Trump’s” Jac told me.

Fascinating! Jacqueline told us that Teresa’s Celebrity Apprentice charity NephCure Foundation is one that is near and dear to Trump and that Teresa may have chosen it with a little nudge from Trump’s people as she met this family at a Trump event. Regardless of why she chose it, it is an excellent charity.

Jacqueline confirmed that Dina Manzo had hopes that Teresa would chose her charity, “Project Ladybug” and that it would explain why Dina broke her vow to avoid all of the Jersey Housewives and film with Teresa.

Jacqueline brought up Dina Manzo, she told me that her sister-in-law doesn’t speak to any of the Housewives,

“Dina doesn’t talk to any of us anymore, she decided to stay away from all of us that were involved with the show, she wanted to be on her own”.

Before I could ask about Dina’s involvement with Teresa, Jacqueline offered,

“Teresa reached out to Dina and I still don’t know why Dina agreed to film with her, they’re not friends now.”

I asked Jacqueline what she thought of Dina’s show, “well, it got picked up for another season” was all I could get out of her.

“I don’t think Caroline is finished with Teresa yet. Caroline has done nothing but grow angrier and more hateful as this season has progressed because the majority of the viewers haven’t supported her against Teresa. I think Caroline is used to getting her way and whatever she wants, and she is just livid because she and her family aren’t the breakout stars of the show. The Manzo & Laurita products haven’t been doing well, no matter how they try to hype it to us, is another sore point. With Dina showing up to support Teresa in an upcoming episode, I’m sure Caroline will be loaded for bear during the reunion. My prediction is Caroline will fabricate something horrendous about Teresa and reveal it on the reunion with at least Jacqueline backing her up (maybe Melissa & Kathy too). Caroline is always spouting she is all about truth and telling it like it is, but she isn’t and doesn’t. With some checking, you would be surprised. She’s like Melissa… deny, deny, deny until she gets caught. She thinks if she gets in your face and spews like she did last reunion that makes her believable… NOT. I find it ironic someone would actually back an advice book for her — that’s just too funny. Anyway, you ‘HEARD IT HERE FIRST,’ as Caroline says, regarding the reunion… hope I’m wrong and I hope Andy stays neutral, fair and balanced.” - Trippin-it, September 1, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

Bravo Video: The Red Angry Bird (Everyone Speculates About “the Change” in Caroline Manzo)

The Top 9 Reasons for Caroline’s and Jacqueline’s Feud with Dina and Why They Blame Teresa and Not Themselves

  1. Jacqueline gave Danielle all the information about Dina’s custody battle so she could use it as ammunition against Dina. Remember during season 2 that Jacqueline said it was Dina going after Danielle, but it was really Caroline! Jacqueline stabbed Dina in the back and caused trouble with her custody battle… how’s that for a loyal sister-in-law (no wonder she defends Melissa over her long-time friend Teresa — they are two peas in a pod)? [Apparently the footage of the dinner in the season 1 finale, where Teresa flipped the table, captured a conversation between Jacqueline and Caroline about Dina. I watched it again but I can't make out what is being said -- UPDATE 10/16/12: Read the whispered conversation here.] Another theory is that Danielle didn’t go to the producers to try to cause problems for Dina: it was Lexi’s aunt who asked Danielle about it and Danielle confirmed that both parent’s needed to give permission for Lexi to be on camera, and then Danielle gave the aunt the producer’s number, which she gave to Lexi’s father. At the reunion, Caroline was crying and saying, ‘You know what you did!”, and was pointing at Danielle. She was overly dramatic and never actually revealed what the problem was, which is her M.O. Caroline was the one who was upset when it should have been Dina, who was trying to stop them from talking about it. Caroline spun that story likes she spins everything, and both Jacqueline and Caroline were the ones stirring the pot and bringing up on camera Dina’s custody issue, which she wanted to remain private [see viewer comments from IMDb.com, which are near the end of this article].
  2. Jacqueline went to LynnNChicago with a story that Dina’s Project Ladybug Foundation was not legit; it caused Dina a lot of problems just as the project was getting up and running; and, to make matters worse, Caroline did not back Dina.  According to an insider [detailed above]: “Project Ladybug was a charity started by ALL the Laurita sisters. When Dina went on the show [RHONJ], she took it over as if she was the founder and the blood, sweat, and tears behind it. She wanted the glory and the attention associated with Project Ladybug. She wanted to look like the hero.” Caroline and their other sister, Cookie Laurita, allowed Dina to take the lead and downplayed their involvement, but Dina “only speaks of Project Ladybug as if it were her own.”
  3. Caroline blames Dina for her losing out on her cookbook deal, which she believes Dina helped Teresa get. Jacqueline claimed that the Manzo/Laurita clan had the idea first and Teresa stole her business ideal with the help of Dina.
  4. Caroline stole Jamie’s wedding from Dina as a payback for her losing the cookbook deal. Jamie’s siblings where so appalled by this that they boycotted the wedding and refused to be filmed on Bravo. Jamie has 10 brothers and sisters and only two came, the ones who star in the RHONJ, Chris and Caroline. Dina asked her brother Jamie to film his wedding on her TV show (Dina’s Party, HGTV) and Jamie agreed, ONLY to have Caroline entice Jamie to consider Bravo since it would get him more exposure and would help give Caroline a boost. (Jamie also is hoping to get his own cooking show on Bravo, maybe even with Albie and Chris Manzo.) This is why Jamie said he had to throw a wedding together in less than a month — it was last minute because Jamie changed his mind and chose Bravo, and Bravo needed to squeeze it into season 4 filming.
  5. Bravo only agreed to film Jamie’s wedding if Teresa was invited. In summary, the unofficial story is that Caroline stole Jamie’s wedding from Dina, who wanted to feature it on her HGTV show, Dina’s Party, which would explain why the wedding was so rushed, and why only two, Chris Laurita and Caroline Manzo, out of 11 siblings (and only their mother and not their father) attended. Teresa told Caroline during reunion 3: “You stabbed her in the back”; Jacqueline said in season 4 episode 6: “Teresa told Dina that Caroline said she’s going to try to take her down, business-opportunity-wise.” The accusation is that Caroline stole the wedding idea from Dina – Caroline knew Andy would jump on the idea and that Jamie would as well because the audience for RHONJ is much larger than Dina’s HGTV show. Featuring Jamie’s gay wedding on Dina’s struggling show, which is all about parties, would have helped put it on the map.
  6. Teresa took the spotlight from Caroline and her family. It was supposed to be a show about Caroline’s family with Teresa as the spacey sidekick. Caroline is becoming unhinged/manic in her desperate attempts to make Teresa look bad and get everyone around her, as well as the viewers, to hate her as well. Teresa is the star and this kills Caroline, and this is why Caroline is filled with contempt and has such a hate smirk on her face. Punta Cana happened on February 23, 2011, near the end of season 3 filming. Teresa accidentally sprayed a women in the Hard Rock Cafe when she opened a bottle of champagne. According to reports, the woman’s son-in-law and his cousin did not take kindly to the rowdy group and physically attacked Teresa. “Joe Giudice, Albert Manzo, Albie Manzo and Christopher Manzo were trying to protect Teresa and they just grabbed the guy and started fighting, and then people joined in. Bravo helped to break up the fight,” added the source. Caroline blames Teresa for her sons being detained and held in jail, and for making her kids look bad to the public. The Manzo boys were trying to get a spinoff show and Caroline believes the incident put everything to a halt. As we all know, Caroline’s boys are faultless and cannot be messed with in the way the Manzos mess with others. Caroline already disliked Teresa, but after Punta Cana, she was done with her.
  7. From an insider commenting at Reality Tea on September 17, 2011: “Teresa is very close with Dina. Although Teresa was always the closest with Dina, and made friends with her first, Caroline is beyond big headed. Caroline turned on Teresa because she is pissed at Dina and taking it out on Teresa. She is angry that Teresa does not jump when she speaks, like Jacqueline does. Caroline expects everyone to listen to her, and when they don’t, all hell breaks loose. This is why she likes Melissa, who only kisses Caroline’s ass to spite Teresa. The fight [on Jacqueline's deck] occurred conveniently and scheduled right before Melissa’s single release party. On camera, Caroline and Jacqueline try to cover up the issue and act as thought they are mad at Teresa for something else, but the real issue is that Teresa is friends with Dina and Dina and Caroline are not speaking.”
  8. From an insider commenting at Reality Tea on September 17, 2011: “What infuriated Caroline even more, and helped lead to the blowout quicker [during season 4 episode 17  — the hot tub scene and fight between Caroline and Teresa], was the fact that Teresa listened to what Danielle had to say regarding Melissa contacting her. Teresa was already aware of Melissa reaching out to Danielle, but was in denial until the WWHL Twitter war. Caroline honestly did not want to go through sticking up for Teresa because that would mean she would simultaneously be confirming that Danielle was correct.
  9. Caroline has NEVER supported ANYTHING that Dina has done, not her charity, or her new TV show (and her talking her brother out of featuring his wedding on Dina’s show and airing it on Bravo instead was the nail in the coffin).

Danielle even stated years ago that there were many issues and problems amongst the Manzo/Laurita clan prior to being on the show and none of them involved Teresa or anyone else. Look at the fact that Caroline has severed ties with most of her family (she didn’t even attend her nephew’s funeral). It’s been that way long before Teresa and herself had issues. One of the reasons and the major reason Dina left the show was because her family was changing due to being on TV!

‘The Fight’ Between Jacqueline and Teresa with Caroline Showing Up Later on Jacqueline’s Deck as Explained by Dina Manzo on Her Website

http://www.dinamanzo.com/press/the-truth/

Dina revealed on October 24, 2011, that she rekindled her friendship with Teresa after Teresa came crying to her following a confrontation with Caroline and Jacqueline during season 4 filming:

“It wasn’t until VERY recently that Teresa showed up at my doorstep in tears…apparently Caroline & Jacqueline had a sit down with her on camera (for season 4) and she felt attacked. All I did was console a friend who was obviously shaken. I felt bad for her..even though I had distanced myself from her a bit I was still her friend and she needed me. I did miss my God daughter and the rest of her girls and I’m not proud to say that in staying away from her I had stayed away from them too. Within a few weeks I went to Teresa’s house to spend Audriana’s 2nd birthday with Teresa and her family. No camera’s, no drama just a nice family night the way things used to be…Teresa has been nothing but supportive of Project Ladybug through the years and is extremely supportive of my new show on HGTV. She tweets about it all the time AND watches when she can as a friend should.”

Dina confirmed that she did indeed film with Teresa for the upcoming 4th season:

“Teresa and I briefly spoke about her broken relationship with her brother on camera. I gave her my best advice and told her to focus on all the good in her life and if her brother is meant to be a part of her life again he will be one day.”

When it comes to Teresa’s diss of her sister Caroline in her cookbook, Dina claims Teresa only meant it as a joke:

“She mentioned the drama with her and Caroline and I told her that if this is all about a joke in a book (and she assured me it was) that’s not enough for me to hate the mother of my God daughter and a friend of 15 years. Was it necessary to write that stuff in her book? probably not but I don’t think it was written with malice either. We are all guilty of joking a little too much now & then…”

As for her strained relationship with not only Caroline, but also Caroline’s kids, Dina stated:

“I feel bad that my relationship with my sister and her family is strained, but I can assure you that one day it will be back to the way it was. I don’t like fighting, I don’t like drama, I don’t like confrontation, I don’t agree with ganging up on someone (one of the other reasons why I left season 2) and I don’t need to share anymore than that. I am not on this show anymore, I didn’t sign on for opening up every aspect of my life to the world for the rest of my life when I signed that Bravo contract.”

“The Manzo family crest is a jackass riding a high horse.”

It is not a coincidence that Melissa’s sister Kim Pirrella and Queenzofmedia are both tweeting about Dina Manzo. Melissa and her sisters are their inside sources, but we know they all lie, so don’t believe any of their stories. RHONJ has turned dark, mean and ugly since Melissa joined: dark, mean and ugly describe the Marco sisters perfectly.

Kim Pirrella ‏tweeted during episode 17 (August 27, 2012), which previewed Dina’s appearance during season 4 episode 18. She seems to be jealous of Dina, probably because she and her sister Lysa want to be cast on RHONJ or get their own show featuring the three Marco sisters.

QueenzOfMedia @bobbiescar @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice unless. Dina was not aware this took place..sometimes things are not as they appear. 2:00 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @rhonj_babble @baybabeez @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice i will never reveal my source. 12:58 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @Ann72079428 @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice ok love. i hope this wasn’t said also…that would make dina and teresa absolute cunts. 12:53 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @kodiac33 @dinamanzo why? you’d have to ask Teresa…and Then ask Dina why what was said was said..i’m just reporting. 12:48 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @sweeetbea @RealOldHouswife @tiffmc1013 @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice oh i Rt’d it..she said ” it didn’t deserve a reply & i am a piece of crap 12:44 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @RealOldHouswife @dinamanzo apparently not…Zen people are always full of crap…oops! 12:29 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @SybillAnn @dinamanzo @Teresa_Giudice @RealOldHouswife from my understanding Dina never forgave Jac for season 1 defending Danielle. 12:26 AM Aug 30th from web

Irishladylisa @Doxielover_03 @imajustsaying @dinamanzo @queenzofmedia I never bought into Dina little miss innocent act 12:19 AM Aug 30th from Twitter for iPhone retweeted by QueenzOfMedia

dfwrax @rawhidevelvet @dinamanzo @queenzofmedia also just confirming how she is the worst out of all of them @daniellestaub was right about her! 12:16 AM Aug 30th from Twitter for iPhone retweeted by QueenzOfMedia

QueenzOfMedia @AsianPosh1 @CaliMommy09 @dinamanzo remember season 1 Dina said some very nasty things…. 12:03 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @AsianPosh1 @dinamanzo i wish it weren’t so… but…it was brought to the attention of Bravo..it will be discussed at reunion. 12:00 AM Aug 30th from web

QueenzOfMedia @dinamanzo is that your official response? 11:46 PM Aug 29th from web

dfwrax @QueenzOfMedia @dinamanzo would say something like that.truly cold hearted @daniellestaub only 1 who stood up to her! That’s why Dina left! 11:41 PM Aug 29th from Twitter for iPhone retweeted by QueenzOfMedia

QueenzOfMedia Breaking #RHONJ News.. #Sourced … Leaked Reunion Topic discussion involving @dinamanzo & @Teresa_Giudice I have just received some very upsetting information from my source…& it has been confirmed by other sources …. Last year… during filming… after Jacqueline’s infant son, Nick, was diagnosed with autism, Teresa had a conversation with Jacqueline. Teresa reportedly told Jac that Dina said “Nick’s autism was karma for Jacqueline.” …(pick your jaws up off the floor, i know mine is still there.) This issue is such a big deal it will be brought up at the reunion by Andy Cohen… Now the question is…did Dina actually say this? Or did Teresa make it up? …not so zen is it? 11:38 PM Aug 29th

More nasty tweets by QueensOfMedia here.

Queenzofmedia are misinformation specialists. In other words, it’s all lies. So don’t believe anything they print. The Marco sisters are tight with them, and they suck up to Melissa (their faux celebrity), WHICH IS WHY TERESA SHOULD NEVER TRUST MELISSA, EVER! MELISSA AND HER SISTERS ARE USING QUEENZOFMEDIA TO DO THEIR DIRTY WORK SINCE THEY WERE CALLED OUT FOR THEIR NASTY TWEETS AND PLANTING STORIES ABOUT TERESA IN THE BLOGS AND TABLOIDS.  Not only does QueenzOfMedia have ties to the Marcos, they hate the Giudices, and they have a bone to pick with Penny Drossos and Johnny Karagiorgis. So QueenzOfMedia will say anything to bring down the Giudices as well as Penny and Johnny.

The cast is baiting Teresa with their blogs. She took the bait after season 4 episode 17 and attacked back in her blog, but now she needs to keep her cool. She should do what she did with The View and refuse to tape the reunion with them — they haven’t talked to her in a year, so she should continue to steer clear of them. She needs a separate segment or do what Jac did and don’t show up for the reunion. Let them sit around and talk about how wonderful they are and how terrible she is. She cannot defend herself against a pack of liars.

She forgave them for their indiscretions but they refuse to forgive her. When they can’t find a reason to hate her, they make up lies. They project their flaws onto her. Everything they accuse her of doing is what they are guilty of doing to her.

Here’s Caroline’s latest rant about Teresa:

“I had to get involved, because [Teresa] looked directly at me and asked me a question. And I had no intention of saying a word, not a word, because I was exhausted. You can see in my face that I just wanted the trip to end. I was exhausted from it. And I was asked a direct question. And if you’re going to be so brave as to ask me a direct question and knowing what the answer is going to be, I’m going to give it to you. And that’s what happened. There was nothing fun about it. I don’t relish any moment of it. I don’t look at that and say “winner” or “loser,” whatever the case may be. It was an ugly moment in my life that I want to forget. And I hope that I never have to deal with that again. It’s not fun. It’s not nice. There’s nothing to be proud of there. And the endgame was that’s the way I had to handle what was. That’s all. I have a very clear understanding of what is. There could be forgiveness if it’s asked. I’m big enough to say that I was rude and obnoxious and very hard on [Teresa], which I was. But, that’s the level she brought me to. But, you still haven’t apologized for what you’ve done to any of us, not just me, to any of us. And until there’s a real legitimate apology, I’m not interested. So, why would I go back into the lion’s den? I said what I had to say. I was very blunt and very matter of fact in what I had to say. I don’t regret it. I regret that I had to do it, but I don’t regret those words because my conscience is clear now and I’m good. I don’t need to go back there. Why would I do that? I just don’t think she treated her family and friends with any kind of dignity or respect. And I think that’s sad, because everybody was there for her. – Caroline Manzo, August 27, 2012, Celebuzz

Teresa, Caroline doesn’t have a dog in this race so she has nothing to lose by going after you. They aren’t her family members. She doesn’t care about them or you. Don’t take the bait. Bravo wants her to get a rise out of you like Danielle did in season 2 with Melissa’s help. Your cousin and SIL are out for your blood. It’s in the footage and in their blogs. That’s all the evidence you need. Don’t react, don’t attack back… be the bigger person. You can’t argue with liars…they just cover one lie with another and another until you begin to question your own memory and then your own sanity…you can never resolve an issue with a liar. The best thing for you to do is ignore them and not respond to their lies… if you constantly defend yourself against their false accusations, you eventually will become consistently shrill and defensive.

Teresa, they truly want to hurt you. They want the show for themselves and their families and friends. They want you gone. They want to turn the viewers against you. Most importantly, they want Bravo to be against you.

You are better off without Bravo. Get through season 5 being as fake as the rest of them. Then move on to another network, and make sure your contract gives you executive producer privileges. Protect your marriage, children and parents from any further humiliation.

Teresa, Melissa admitted to contacting Danielle to give her dirt on you because she hated you — she never stopped hating you — every episode is just an act. And when she tells the camera that she is doing everything possible to bring you and Joey together, we all know she is full of it… I’m amazed she has any fans at all. Of course she is the reason for the rift in your family. She and her sisters do not want you to have a relationship with your brother. And as long as he is married to her, you won’t… and there is nothing you can do about that, so let it go, no matter how much it hurts.

Teresa, no good will come from you telling Caroline how you feel about her. Jacqueline is a member of her family so she has to show her loyalty to Caroline, no matter how horrendous her behavior is. Your family doesn’t show you that kind of loyalty. Caroline is trying to destroy your relationships with your family the way she believes you destroyed her relationship with Dina. But we all know she did that on her own.

Teresa, everything Caroline accuses you of doing, she is guilty of doing — projecting her own flaws onto you and ‘blame shifting’ as Jacqueline likes to call it. She blames you for her hatred and says you brought her to this level — she can’t even own her anger — it’s always your fault. You will never win with these people. And she has her army of idiots — her spouse and offspring, and Jacqueline, Kathy and Melissa and their spouses and sisters — to back her up (they failed to back her up during the hot tub scene, but they learned their lesson and won’t let that happen again). Don’t go up against that army. They are merciless. They are liars. They are despicable. They are ruthless people. She is putting wood on the fire, not you.

She is out to destroy you just like she said Albert would destroy your husband. Stay away from them for the sake of your children, your husband and your parents.

In the next episode (episode 18), Caroline says this about Teresa:

“I think Teresa has an agenda to drive a wedge against myself and family members.”

Yet it is obvious to anyone without prejudice toward Teresa that this is what Caroline is doing to her!

Here is what Caroline said about Teresa’s relationship with Dina in her October 21, 2011 Bravo blog:

“Teresa claims that the biggest hurt of all is watching her parents deal with the pain of their children fighting while the nation watches. So my question is this — Teresa knew how important it was to me to keep the Dina issue hidden, but tried numerous times throughout the season and through her blogs and interviews to reveal it. She finally had her moment at the reunion. Did she think I would deny it? Congratulations, Teresa, the only thing you succeeded in doing was hurting my parents. What a fool I’ve been in my efforts to bring your family together when it was your intent to destroy mine from the start. Shame on you. I’ve been asked by numerous publications to tell my story regarding Teresa and Dina and have denied them all, because I refuse to glorify an already sad situation. Teresa may think she hurt me, but what she doesn’t understand is that she can never hurt me, because I take into account where it’s coming from. Unlike you, Teresa, I can look in the mirror and hold my head high knowing that I have always given the best of myself to my family and friends. I live my life with integrity and self-respect.”

Teresa, heed the warning of a great man of God, Charles Haddon Spurgeon: Expect trouble, for foes are everywhere, but do not enter the thicket with the lion, for he that meets with him, even though he wins the day, will find it a stern struggle.

Cara on May 28, 2012 at 12:43 pm said on AllAboutTRH.com:

Granted, this is all just speculation so discussing who should be off the show is kind of pointless. However, I think if we look at past behavior and things that cast members have said themselves, that should dictate how they should be reacting to what is going on now and that should give us an indication of who should WANT to be off the show. Dina is a perfect example.

Dina said from the very beginning that she has “no patience for drama”. And she cut it right out. She stood by her word and by the middle of season two was so fed up with the BS from Danielle and the effect it was having on her life that she left the show.

Dina’s actions actually matched her words. She has integrity and that says a lot about the strength of her character. In other words, she doesn’t talk shit. When she says something, she MEANS it. And as Dina illustrated, if you are going to complain about drama in your life, you DO have a choice in cutting it out.

Then look at Caroline. She in on this show with Teresa who she now can’t stand. She claims that Teresa is the source of drama and nonsense in her life. She also claims that “Life’s too short. I have no time for drama” (her new tagline this season). Well, she DOES have a choice in the matter. The first choice would be to stop involving herself in someone else’s family conflict. She doesn’t have to constantly be sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. Her second choice would be to get herself OFF the show if it bothers her so much.

In this case, Caroline’s words do NOT match her actions. She puts herself right in the thick of the drama despite claiming that she has no time or tolerance for it. To me, that says she has no integrity. And really, if she had no “time” for drama that would mean she is too busy for it and wouldn’t even grant an audience. But she seeks it out because she has nothing else going on! She wouldn’t go around asking Melissa and Jacqueline questions about the Teresa/Joey situation if she truly had “no time” for drama. Obviously she has the time to pencil the drama in.

Also, look at the relationships here. Caroline sees nothing odd about the fact that there was no drama with Teresa until Melissa entered the picture? She knew Teresa for fifteen years prior to that. She is just now seeing all these problems with Teresa after fifteen years of NEVER having a problem with her? Something is wrong there. Maybe she should be looking at Melissa.

And then look at Teresa and Dina’s relationship. It is totally unscathed. What is missing? Melissa. And doesn’t it say a lot that Dina – who is allergic to drama – has had no involvement in this Teresa/Joey situation, but she is still friends with Teresa and not talking to CAROLINE and JACQUELINE? She severed her Bravo contract because she didn’t want to deal with the BS anymore; and out of everyone in the cast, the one person that she has kept in her life is Teresa. She has cut out two of her own family members but remained friends with Teresa. But Caroline wants us to think Teresa is the PROBLEM?

All of these things are indicators that a storm started brewing the moment Melissa and Joey came onto this show. Caroline must really think Bravo viewers are idiots to not remember all of these things. And seriously, if she hates Teresa that much that it’s creating so much negativity in her life….go off into the Franklin Lakes sunset and life your life, Caroline. If positive things are in store for you, let them happen. Just like your sister did.

lollybomb on May 24, 2012 at IMDb.com:

This is reaching far into my memory bank (this was all over the web after Dina left that there was a falling out between them), but yeah it was the whole Caroline trying to make it seem like Dina could lose Lexi over something Danielle did but it was really losing the right to film with Lexi not a custody thing. Dina not only wanted to keep this on the down low but it was exaggerated by Caro. If you watch the reunion when it is brought up, Dina’s face says it all.

The other thing I heard at the time is that Dina did not care for Caroline’s I-hate-everyone-but-family attitude. It’s my own personal opinion that Dina has cut ties with the Manzos so that they could no longer put her private stuff out there for the world to see if you remember, Dina’s hubby is real private too [he turned into a "private guy" and didn't want to be filmed after he was mortified over 'editing' in his and Dina's VH1 wedding special]– unlike Albert, he refused to be on camera.

parkguy505 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Jacqueline was the one who got in the heated exchange with Danielle at the season 2 reunion about Dina, not Caroline. Caroline tried to stop the conversation, but Jacqueline had already let the cat out of the bag. So no, that is not the reason Dina isnt speaking to Caroline.

parkguy505 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Lolly, all your info is incorrect. Jacqueline is the one who brought up the Danielle/Dina/custody issue, not Caroline. Caroline tried to stop the conversation.

And yes, Danielle DID try to get Dina in trouble with her ex over the Bravo contracts and Lexie.

And NO, Dina’s husband isn’t super private, because before this show ever aired Dina and her husband were on one of those “My big giant rich Wedding” shows. I think after the bad publicity he got after that, he decided another reality show was not for him.

parkguy505 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Lolly, you are right about Caroline crying and making a scene at the season 1 reunion! I thought you meant at the season 2 reunion when Jacqueline actually revealed what the issue was.

sonomagirl2120 on May 24, 2012 at IMDb.com:

This is what I read on the internet so I am not sure how true it is…..Dina left the show in mid season and asked Caroline not to speak of Dina’s daughter on the reunion. Caroline and Danielle got into a heated discussion during the reunion and Caroline said it was Danielle’s fault that Dina almost lost custody of her child. Dina did not appreciate the comments and felt her sister was exaggerating and exacerbating a delicate family matter. Dina had Lexie on the show in Season 1 but Lexie’s father did not want the girl filmed so she was not featured in Season 2. Dina and her ex are most likely walking on eggshells trying to maintain a civil relationship in the best interest of their daughter so Caroline’s public accusations did not help a sensitive situation. Not sure how true this all is….

Lazaka on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Just to add, she also wrote (or said) either in her blog, twitter or interview, that she didn’t talk to any of the cast members for a while after she left, including Teresa; and it wasn’t because she was mad at them. Teresa called and she welcomed her with open arms because she never did anything bad to her. I’m paraphrasing there and also thinking she meant that Teresa was the only one who didn’t bring up Dina/Lexi on the reunion. She said that Teresa did tell her that she’s no longer getting along with Caroline and Jac (I believe) and she said that Teresa never did anything to come in between her and Caroline.

Just for the record OP, it was not Caroline who brought up Dina/Lexi, that was all Miss Jacqueline, when Danielle defended herself against these accusations saying “I would never do that!” (regarding having Lexi taken away) and Caroline sat there and mouthed and shook her head “oh no….” sort of like “yeah right you didn’t” then Miss Jacqueline in all her 40 years pointed at Danielle like a 5-year-old and said “yes you did, I saw the proof!” and Caroline shook her head in agreement. Dina was tweeting that night and she was pissed.

The point that everyone else is making is that we really don’t know the truth (sort of like the Giudice/Gorga and the elusive Wakile fight). Dina says there are reasons she’d rather not talk about, Jacqueline won’t speak of them, and Caroline just plain blames Teresa. Who the hell knows with these women lol. I do know that Caroline also blames Teresa for all the strain she’s having with her siblings in this upcoming episode and I’m preeeeettty sure Teresa is arrested for the shooting of Treyvon Martin. I mean she must be responsible for that too in Caroline’s mind, right?

Sigh Die on September 12, 2012 at Television Without Pity:

I don’t recall Dina ever saying anything of the sort about Danielle nearly costing her the custody of her daughter. I recall Caroline hinting at such a thing, but for some reason she always declined to explain what she meant. Her refusal to elaborate on the basis of her accusation always left me feeling like she was totally making the whole thing up or at least greatly exaggerating what happened. I remember hearing it had something to do Dina not having a proper signature from Lexie’s father for her to participate in taping, IIRC, and Danielle merely telling someone what signatures from her daughters’ father she had been required to provide. It never sounded like anything that would have really threatened Dina having custody of Lexie at all, much less an attempt by Danielle to cost Dina custody of Lexie. It all seemed very overblown by Caroline and nothing more than something she was using to justify her weird rage toward Danielle.

Here’s an excerpt from Dina’s blog (as told by E!Online):

Dina explains that once she decided to leave RHONJ, she began to distance herself from all the ladies on the show because all the drama between them became too “toxic” for her.

“I really wanted to walk away from all of the toxic behavior, I was not into ganging up on anyone and I was no longer obligated to talk about Daniele so the best thing for me to do was stay away…I guess some of the Housewives may have taken that as I think I’m better than them…that couldn’t be further from the truth.”

She then explains that through her children’s charity, Project Ladybug, she began to see that the bickering on the show seemed “so silly” and that she discovered what is really important in life—for her that no longer included reality television.

“I’m not proud of what went down season one and I entered into season two with a heavy heart, not really into it at all,” she wrote. “Once I left I felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders and I finally felt a sense of peace.”

Dina says distancing herself from the show and cast did include not being as close as she once was to Teresa Giudice, but that the duo were still occasionally speaking. At the time she also had a falling out with her sister Caroline.

“Feelings did get hurt,” Dina said of her family battle. “I won’t get into them because I have no desire to rehash the past that can only hurt my parents whom I adoreThere is no side here, this is a private matter; there are 3 sides to every story remember…it depends on who you ask.”

kzmanrules2 on May 25, 2012 at IMDb.com:

And, no it’s not Teresa’s fault, although Caroline loves blaming everyone but herself for things going wrong in her life. It was Teresa’s fault her son failed in college, it was her fault Lauren is fat. So of course she blames Teresa for her relationship with Dina failing.

ivygirl22 said on June 22, 2012 at IMDb.com:

Caroline DID say at the reunion she would “love” to show everyone the emails she has as “proof” that Teresa stopped her and Dina from talking. Caroline was the one who brought up the emails and her “willingness” to share them so I actually DON’T believe Caroline for one minute that these emails exist…knowing Caroline, she would be thrilled to take any opportunity to disprove Teresa or expose her as a liar…and she hasn’t (in this instance.) If she has these supposed emails and is so eager to let everyone read them, where are they?

I also find it hard to believe that Teresa would be sending emails to Dina telling her to stop talking to her own sister. This whole story has been sketchy at best, and I just don’t believe Caroline at all in this particular situation. Dina herself says Teresa is not the reason she and Caroline are on the outs…I don’t think Teresa has that much power over the two of them, especially Caroline. Personally, I don’t see one shred of evidence as to why Caroline deserves any “benefit of the doubt” when she’s the one who bragged about emails and then never produced them. Caroline gives me the impression that if Teresa ever does ANYTHING to “wrong” her (Caroline) or piss her off, we hear about it in great detail…however, this whole “Dina” rift has been kept pretty much under the rug, leading me to believe Caroline *doesn’t* want the whole truth of it exposed because it has more to do with HERSELF than it does Teresa.

Lazaka on May 29, 2012 at IMDb.com:

The way Caroline blames Teresa for her entire family feud (Caroline’s not Teresa’s) and sticks her crooked nose into Teresa’s family business but expects Teresa to not do the same is another reason people can’t stand her. She’s very much a hypocrite and people are getting tired of her “Don” ways. She also claims to hate drama but she incites it and causes it more than anyone but probably Jacqueline.

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“Do you really think ALL the kids don’t know what is going on in their own family? Doesn’t Melissa talk about Teresa in the car with her kids there? Can’t Gia still love her aunt if she turns out to have been a stripper? Why do people expect Teresa to keep taking hits…MY GOD….she’s taken them all season with her mouth SHUT….and never, ever, ever reply? Or strike back? Are we really going to go down the ‘two wrongs don’t make a right’ path? Intentions matter here. Melissa’s intention to ruin Teresa’s relationships for her own fame is not quite the same as Teresa’s intention to defend herself and put someone else on the defence for a change. Can you REALLY blame her? I wouldn’t be talking to these people at all if I were her…family or not. I will be giving Teresa a free pass for whatever she says at the reunion…in fact, I’ll drive it to her house.” – Parkview, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Tre bashing is not okay either. Sometimes you just gotta stand up for yourself, I get it. All the bashing has to stop for the family to heal. Which will probably not happen if they are on the show. As far as I’m concerned, Caro, Wacko and Co. are all fair game….bash away Tre.” – Chris, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“I would have done the same thing after continually being attacked by the others for 2 years. You can only kick someone so long before they react and defend themselves, and she did that quite well.” – mzjulesaz, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“She wasn’t innocent in the Dirty D situation. What she was saying was that Caroline & Jax drug up Danielle’s past and were all, ‘Oooh, she was a stripper’ but they don’t care about MEHO’s past and the same issues. I think what she is saying, inarticulately (which makes me think she maybe did write this latest Bravo blog), is that SHE wasn’t the one who brought up Danielle’s stuff. THEY did. Ergo, she wasn’t the one to tell Caroline the rumors about MeHO.” – Maggiemzjulesaz, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“I also loved how Teresa told IckyRichy to turn around when she was taking-off her robe to slip into the hot tub. She’s got your number Wakile. She’s known you close to twenty years, and KNOWS you’re a creep who ogles her at every chance. This could be the root of Kathy’s problem with Tre.” – Meadow (@improgressing) , August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Me thinks you have hit the ‘nail’on the head — a little misdirected anger on Kathy’s part if you ask me. Your right, she has his number and does everything the can to shoot him down but he won’t listen. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me that he hit on Teresa one time and she shot him down. That might just be the rub you are talking about. If Teresa can see through his BS, I bet Kathy can too, and she blames Teresa for it. That explains Kathy’s motivations and the allusions to the long ago split in Teresa’s & Kathy’s relationship. How can they be morally outraged with you after spending over a year spewing very nasty, petty and mean spirited blogs, twitters, and interviews against your family.” – fierysicilian1, August 28, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Teresa, I watch the show and try to keep an open mind and you aren’t perfect but you aren’t the person they try to make you out to be either. You are right that us fans read all the blogs, etc. and can see/hear the contradictions from all of them… All of this over the magazine articles is just stupid. You have said you do the covers and get paid but have also said that you don’t have control over what is always said on the inside, as most celebs would agree with you… it’s so stupid. They all really need to move on. You touched Kathy’s chin like one touches a child’s to get their attention, when she was absorbed in her phone. And you only touched her again to explain what you were doing. It makes me sick how she made that out to be something it wasn’t. Teresa, it is obvious to me that Caroline was jealous that you were getting along with your family so she started to stir the pot. She is mean — I wrote her that holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies. Melissa, Jac, and Kathy sat there while Caroline made an ass of herself and degraded Teresa on national TV. It was brutal. Shame on them for not standing up for Teresa. Caroline was wrong. They should have stopped it right then and there. But they didn’t because they were too tied into the ‘Teresa hates Melissa for no good reason’ story line, and Melissa couldn’t afford to alienate Caroline because she is with Kathy on that.” – DivaSLC77, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

“My favorite comment in Teresa’s blog was how she was going to tell Caroline off, but thought of Dina and Caro’s mom Nettie. Then she pointed out how Caroline did not show the same respect for her mother. Especially loved how she talks to her Mom in Italian and Caroline does not understand the language — proved one lie.” – ViewerLainie, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

“I just feel that, at her nastiest (chasing Danielle through the country club), Teresa was trying to get to the bottom of WHO was feeding Danielle private financial information. Not sure if Teresa knew at this point that her own family was feeding the enemy, but she certainly suspected it. She wanted a straight answer from Danielle about who was setting her up. I felt Teresa was trying to protect her private business MORE than she was trying to hurt Danielle.” – Elmozoe, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

“To defend actions in the current season by bringing up things that happened years ago when they were ALL in very different places in their lives and different people is just scratching the bottom of the barrel.” – Just me, August 28, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog

Video History of RHONJ at StoopidHousewives

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“I just want to see them all get called out — you know they ( Caroline, Jacqueline, Melissa Kathy) are going to go hard on Teresa, with Andy loving every damn minute if it. Of course he will gloss over every damn thing they have said and done. But at least with someone like Danielle coming on, she will be like, ‘Yeah, well Jacqueline you told me this, and Caroline what about that, and Melissa you did this and that, and Teresa, don’t play innocent you went went along with them going at me’ (which, even though I am a Teresa fan, she did).” – Lena1, September 2, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Just highlights the fact that Melissa and Kathy ruined it for Teresa. This was Teresa’s gig: she earned her claim to fame, but until season 3 she cherished her friendship with the Manzo-Laurita family. Have a feeling that Jac and Tre will reconcile at the reunion. The only reason people are tuning in is to see someone crash and burn permanently. Kathy and Melissa have ruined the show!!!” – Lori, September 1, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“Teresa predicted that it would be ugly. RHONJ is really difficult to watch. The Wakilies are craptastic wannabes who, as Kathy said on The View, ‘ just wanted a piece of the pie’. Well Wonky eye, bake your own damn pie instead of trying to grab your cousin’s. MeHo is a prisoner of her own fantasy: she can sing about as well as I can spin gold into straw.” – Aint Pittypat, September 1, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“The Wakile’s gas stations were almost broke. Richie (so much smarter than Juicy Joe) was sued by Exxon (don’t mess with a global oil company). Kathy was cuttin’ hair. And they wanted what cousin Tre earned. Yeah – get on the show, work with DonCaro to knock Tre off. Problem with the plan? Tre has star power – she makes you laugh. Kathy-YAWN.” – Love NJt, September 2, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“My objection to Danielle season 1 was the constant sexual references and (to me) inappropriately confiding in her daughters. After 2 seasons of Joey clambering all over MeHo like a nasty monkey in heat and Richie the Creeper humping anything with a pulse, all I can say is Danielle looks like Mother Teresa in a nun’s habit . Danielle at least owned her stripper past while Jax goes into a coma at the slightest mention of the S word. If RHONJ is going to survive this debacle of a season, then the entire cast needs to come clean. I know this is childish, but I would pay to see Teresa rip Chuckie and Jax a new one over Gia.” – Aint Pittypat, September 1, 2012, StoopidHousewives

“The stupid cookbook comment maybe irritating but definitely not enough to provoke that kind of hatred. What happened on that vacay, which we’ll never really know because of the legal stuff, involved her self-professed mama’s boys. Who knows what Tre did? Who knows what Chris and Albie did? But, whatever it was, they ARE responsible for their actions. They’re 20-something men. BUT I don’t think Caroline would ever forgive Teresa or accept an apology. She seems to be too much of a hard-a&&. She’s not even talking to her own sister for Pete’s sake. What kind of adult does that? I don’t agree with a lot of stuff my brother says and does but I still talk to him!” – amyp22, September 1, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

“Bottom line, they are all desperate to show the viewers how bad she is, so are trying to focus on anything they can dig up. The tabloids are a joke, because anything in them that is bad, were direct quotes from the other ladies. Caroline is spoiled, we clearly saw how nasty she got when it was looking like she was going to lose control of Jaq. When Teresa became the breakout star, and Caroline couldn’t control her, she decided she would control the viewers instead, by trying to get everyone to hate Teresa and quit buying her products. That way the Manzos would be # 1 again. Caroline sees Teresa as a competitor who must be eliminated. Caroline feels she must be the winner, and she will knock down anyone who gets in her way!” – valgal62, September 1, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

“Caroline, you confuse me. You have a great relationship with Al and your kids…the kind of family most people would love to be a part of. Why don’t you back off and let Teresa have that with her family? If you truly believed that Teresa, Melissa, Joe and Kathy should make peace and be a family, then you should have let them. Instead, you were the one fueling the flames every chance you got. The real ugly is what hides behind your smile. It’s in your eyes; you can’t miss it. You are passing it on to your daughter: if you’re not careful she will be a lonely, angry young woman, and you will be the blame. Problem is, you won’t see it. Somehow it will be someone else’s fault! I only hope that if Lauren is blessed with a daughter she is more emotionally supportive of her than you are. You support her with money, business, surgery…but where is the emotional support? You give more of that to Melissa and Kathy!!” – bellasmommy98, September 2, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog

“So Teresa says that Dina stopped talking to her when she left the show. And she says that when Dina had her fight with Caroline she didnt talk to T for awhile. So it sounds to me, if Teresa meant to word everything the way she did, that Dinas leaving the show happened at the same time as her fight with Caroline. So it would seem to me that Caroline had something to do with Dinas decision to leave the show…maybe the whole reason she left. IMO this supports the theory that Dina and Carolines fight had everything to do with the show….maybe a business deal gone wrong. Or maybe that whole stupid twitter project ladybug war between the two.” – Parkview, September 10, 2012, StoopidHousewives

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46 Responses to Caroline Manzo Is Trying to Breakup Teresa Giudice’s Family Because She’s Convinced Herself That Teresa Broke Up Hers; Kathy Wakile and Joe and Melissa Gorga Support Caroline’s Evil Plan to Defame Teresa (Updated 9/15/2012)

  1. MP says:

    Love this post, as always. Really curious about the reunion. I hope Tre will keep her cool against all of the attacks. You KNOW they’re loading up on ammo.

    I wish Danielle, Dina, or BOTH would come on. Would be exciting… 4 PARTER!!!

  2. Sackem says:

    Love it! I wonder if Mrs Giudice has ever stumbled across this.

    • RayRayH says:

      I swear I was going to make the same comment LOL. Based on her last blog (I think it was the last one) she said her fans see things she doesn’t, and they know what’s going on, so it implies she has in fact read this site, or another site. If it was me, I’d be all over this.

  3. Pv says:

    So the queenz are tweeting that Teresa told Jac that Dina said the autism was karma for Jac. Its all very clear to me now. Of course Jac would come out with her autism story line now so she can accuse T of this at the reunion or just in the court of public opinion. Bonus…break up T and Dina. Jac, Im pretty sure you arent the most credible source of information. You should get some pointers off your new BFF melissa on how to destroy a family. Shes actually quite good at that.

    • famewhorgas says:

      Jacqueline is sneaky. She is still trying to assassinate Teresa’s character when she should be focusing on her children. She gave this story to Tom Murro (who says he’s a friend to the Manzo/Laurita camp) of The Huffington Post on September 4:

      “All of my cast members knew there was an issue prior to the actual diagnosis and most were very supportive with encouraging kind words and offering us different resources to help. Since the actual diagnosis, and the article in People magazine, all of my cast mates have reached out to us for support except for Teresa, but that was to be expected.”

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-murro/jacqueline-laurita-opens-_b_1848658.html

      Jacqueline is on speaking terms with all the cast other than the Giudices. I don’t know what she expects Teresa to do when all she does is tweet nasty things about Teresa. If Teresa did contact her, she would say it wasn’t sincere and was just for attention — they would use it against her and twist her words and misrepresent her intentions like they always do. Teresa needs to avoid them completely, which is what she has been doing. Jacqueline doesn’t consider her a friend and that is why Teresa hasn’t ‘reached out’ to the Lauritas ‘for support’.

      madepiley, a SH reader, may have hit the nail on the head when she said Jac “almost seemed to enjoy the martyrdom that came along with having a ‘bad child’ [Ashley] — like a jacked up psychological Munchhausen by proxy”. Now she can use Nicholas’ autism to garner sympathy and special attention like she did with Ashley’s bad-girl behavior [Jac presented Ashley in the worst possible light to the viewers when she was just another angst-ridden teen who was constantly antagonized by her mother and her step-father's family]. Jacqueline sold out her daughter for a storyline and some sympathy, and now she’s doing the same thing to Nicholas because Ashley’s story has played out.

      “Initial diagnosis of autism requires parents self report any and all behaviors that they are concerned about. Given what we have seen about Jax on the show with her daughter, she almost seemed to enjoy the martyrdom that came along with having a “bad child” — like a jacked up psychological Munchhausen by proxy. She loved her crying scenes, thrives on Chris saying she has “such a good heart” blah blah blah. Any mother of a teenage daughter could spin their antic into making them appear to be the devil’s spawn but MOST mothers wouldn’t do that. Jax did. Jax did it with relish. I can only hope that the doctors could weed out any bullcrap such as this before agreeing with a parent that the child has autism. It seems to me that Jax has major perception problems when it comes to her interpreting the actions of other.” – madepiley

      Jacqueline Laurita’s Storyline for Season 5 Would Be Nicholas’ Autism; The Timing of Her Announcement Coincides with Contract Renewals, Season 4′s Explosive Ending and the Upcoming Reunion
      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/08/25/jacqueline-lauritas-storyline-for-season-5-would-be-nicholas-autism-the-timing-of-her-announcement-coincides-with-contract-renewals-season-4s-explosive-ending-and-the-upcoming-reunion/

      They Are All Jealous of Teresa Giudice’s Business Success; Tom Murro and Kim G. are Friends to the Manzo/Laurita Camp
      http://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/jacqueline-lauritas-friend-tom-murro-spreads-disinformation-before-the-episode-airs-where-caroline-manzo-blames-teresa-giudice-for-her-own-blood-fueds/

      • old NJ girl says:

        I actually think that Jac is the most dangerous of all the women. She has been feeding bloggers like Lynn Hudson and now US Weekly and Radar Online stories for years. At first the stories were about Dina and then during season 3 she turned her sites to Teresa. Jacko, her mother Bonnie are both incredibility rude to fans of the show on twitter. To think that both of them have spent the last 2 years condemning Teresa in media outlet that would listen along with spending hours every day on twitter bashing Teresa when there was a little boy at home that needed a SANE mother and grandmother.

        • I live in the neighborhood says:

          OldNJlady I agree 100% ..any women who would take a teenager and put her on National T V and point out all her bad qualities makes Joan Crawford look like mother of the year. That kid grew up with a bunch of thug Manzos no wonder she is crazy. If she really wanted to help she would have said do a year sp of college in Nj then you can transfer to a school in la. I couldn’t even imagine my mother commenting about my friends or ex friends . Granny is a nut. Clearly bipolar runs in the family.

          Now she is showcasing her son’s aledged autism to gain sympathy for the reunion. Is she wanted to bring awareness she should have been tweeting about it instead Of drunk tweeting about T.

  4. sas@gmail.com says:

    love your post ( as always ) ..
    anyone who is fooled by these despicable bullies is an idiot ..
    all episodes in full are on the site ‘projectfreetv’ or ‘watchseries’ …
    all the proof is RIGHT there & i hope it’s used during the reunion …
    this will be andys last chance to redeem himself …..
    & he better ….
    the show got VERY dark & upsetting …
    caroline is a textbook case of ‘abusive narcissism’ ..
    in fact she is being used as an example on the blogs ..
    the rest of them are either co-dependant or enablers or both..
    word in jersey is hubby has another relationship & is never home …
    she is a sanctimonious bozo …
    & the rest of them are just as bad …
    ‘dirtyD’ lookin’ pretty good ya’ll !
    way to go dina !
    stick to your OWN code of ethics !

    • famewhorgas says:

      StoopidHousewives just republished a blog from September 5, 2011 with another good reason Dina and Caroline are feuding (I was a casual viewer of RHONJ until after the season 3 finale, when I went online to get the scoop before the reunion show in October 2011 because something wasn’t adding up, so I missed all the old stuff!):

      “Dina Manzo clearly is going against the ‘family’ and still talks with Tree. Despite there being parties held at the Brownstone, which included the cast of the RHONJ, Dina was a no-show at these Brownstone affairs. Dina instead attended Tree’s RHONJ season premiere party and Tree’s New Year’s Eve party… showing her allegiance NOT to her own sister, Don Caroline, but to Tree Joodice. This just had to piss Don Caroline off to no end!!!”

      http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/09/05/from-the-sh-archives-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-audriana-giudices-christening-why-caroline-and-dina-manzo-are-not-speaking/

    • famewhorgas says:

      Thank you for tips on ‘projectfreetv’ or ‘watchseries’ – I’ll be looking for the whispered conversation between Jacqueline and Caroline about Dina during the table flip episode when I get the time. And thanks for the compliment and comment!

  5. ThatOtherChick says:

    This is a great post. Loved it :)

  6. WindyCityWondering says:

    Excellent and informative – Caroline will never understand that just because she says it – it is the truth. She lies to get others against her enemies – plants the seed, sways the jury. The fact that she has never supplied proof/evidence has not been lost on the viewers. Caroline is fueled by hate and it seems she has a never ending supply!

  7. autumnleaves61 says:

    Great update w/ so much supporting info included.

    Obviously the Evil Halfsisters are going after Dina Manzo b/c they’re afraid she’ll return to RHONJ. Like Teresa, Dina has star power and charisma. Together they would dominate the show-and where would that leave Melissa and her wannabe Evil Halfsisters?

    And: We ALL KNOW that if Dina had made any kind of comment a year ago, it would have been disclosed instantly–Jac can’t keep her drunken tweets to herself, and would have been DMing and secretly picking at Dina the entire time. Of course it’s a lie-a very despicable lie, just about as low-class and dirty as one can get.

    I hope ppl who continue to feel sorry for Jac, consider that she is so nasty, so black hearted, that she’s willing to use her son’s disability to be spiteful to her son’s aunt, her husband’s brother, the daughter of her in-laws. That’s low-class trash.

    Also: Recall that Jac made multiple excuses last year for not attending the reunion. The most interesting one to me, is her stating that she was “afraid” of Teresa. Afraid of Teresa? Again, low-class dramatic trash. Wish she’d been called out on that one, b/c I would love seeing her explain why she said she was “afraid” of her. Later, she changed the story completely.

  8. Joanna says:

    I really appreciate the time and effort in seeking facts that this site has done. I know that all the little pieces come together here. I think that you are either with Caroline or against her. She has an inflated sense of self worth and I think her anger has sociopathic qualitys. When Melissa and Kathy first came on the show, she was rude to them and fans started looking at her differently. It was later she would blame that on Teresa(but her accusation now does not hold water in light of Jax 2011 blog). The fan slipage and backlash has fanned the fires inside of Caroline who blames Teresa for everything now. I hope someone can bust her wide open on her compulsive lying.

  9. Maggs says:

    Didn’t Teresa say at the reunion that Jac started something she couldn’t finish??

  10. staceychris says:

    As always an excellent blog – I just can’t fathom how Caroline and Jac have anyone believing their “Teresa’s to blame” story

    • Pv says:

      I dont think too many people believe Teresa is to blame. I think that population consists mostly of people who dont pay too much attention, dont question vague generalizations…you know like people who vote for candidates because they say “Im going to help you”. Oh and I know Jac, Carol, Mels relatives are on these sites…trying to tip the scales. Must be hard on them.

      • mzjulesaz says:

        I agree PV! In addition, just from reading the comments on the ladies Bravo blogs it appears there are many viewers that are either new to the show and in many cases don’t follow the blogs or twitter. I have watched all seasons and have to admit I didn’t even look for the blogs or twitter until after the S3 reunion. I was flabbergasted and confused as to the treatment and attack of Teresa so I looked for places on the internet to see if I could paint a picture of what the heck was going on. I found sites such as this one, started to watch twitter and WOW were my eyes opened. Those Marcos sisters are the worst. I think they actually think to this day they will get Teresa off the show and Melissa will bring them on — I think not. It’s amazing what you learn just from Twitter alone.

        • Pv says:

          Yep. I did homework too. Could not understand what the heck she did to these people. And I was totally open to it being all her fault. I didnt favor anyone at that time. We dont really see the Marco sisters that much anymore….I think if bravo was entertaining anything with them thay would be pushing them on us. Thats where my line is drawn. I will not watch them. Ever.

  11. mzjulesaz says:

    As always, love your blog Famewhorgas and the insightful responses from everyone.

    On Ryan Seachrist, Melissa already said she is going to ask Teresa about the things Caroline stated that Teresa said (e.g., stripper, gold digger). I’m sure each and everyone of them have lists on their smart phones and are coming out with daggers. Caroline will be the worst as she has so much hate, anger and venom inside of her. I don’t know if I can stomach watching that kind of hatred.

  12. Llinda says:

    I for one DO NOT want to see AUTISM as Jack’s storyline next season. She is acting NI DIFFERENT since his diagnosis which for me, means;
    1. His diagnosis is suspect because we know how shady this family is. I’ve read professional people’s comments and it appears the symptoms Jack spoke of didn’t fit the norm????? It is as if he was misdiagnosed. Interesting to say the least. Then-Jack removes all photos of Nicknafter many blogs were questioning his actions/symtoms.
    OR/AND
    2. Jack is still an inmature, horrible parent and is indeed selling out yet another one of her kids for a freaken reality show storyline! Sorry, but I know mothers with Aspergers, autistic kids and they are fully focused on their child and how to cope, teach, and interact so the child is happy and able to move forward. Jack spends tge same amount of time/energy on the hate train. Excuse me but if this is in any way true avout her child, you would think she would just want peace and harmony at this point!
    Sorry folks, Gid help me if I am wrong….but I don’t fully believe this whole “story!”
    Yhr Laurita’s are broke and in hot water with the feds, they need this show for money and they need a storyline AND they need SYMPATHY from viewers and the FEDS! This crap is NOT ringing true to me! And if JACK can spendvso much $$$ on her fugly face and lipo-why the hell – would you wait 8 months for a specialist? Pay out of pocket and skip this month’s botox and LIP injections!!! Selfish Ass Shit Mother! BOTH her boys need HER and CHRIS, NOT BRAVO Reality TV in their face! I wrote Andy Cohen about this. I want some happiness and positivity on this show — drama about women and silly stuff-NO MORE KIDS/SADNESS!!!!!!!!

    • MomaJackie says:

      You state many of the thoughts that have gone through my head. It is beyond belief that anyone would have to wait 8 months for a specialist, especially the Laurita family.

      I agree they are “shady”. Chris, recently stated, again, that he would have purchased the Giudice’s furnishings had they gone to the auction block. Yet, at just about the same time in 2009 the Laurita’s were forced into bankruptcy the same year as the Giudice’s. This does not make sense.

      I could never believe they would use Nick’s “autsim” as their story line, no parent would ever do that. But, considering the timing and that statment supposedly made by the mother of a child with autism, I believe they are that low. Forgive me for using your words @Llinda, this crap is all ringing true!

      BRAVO gets a new twist on next season’s storyline, blk, through false PR becomes the autism “cure”, Jacqueline continues to be the martyr and the Laurita’s laugh all the way to the bank.

      Love this site and the new format.

  13. isolde says:

    Another very informative blog about the facts and the players. As a person from a large family, there will always be disagreements between siblings, and just because one says something about the other does not make it true. There is usually one who believes that they know it all, have a better character and are morally correct. From personal experience, that is in their mind only, and sometimes you have no choice but to distance yourself from them and the drama, if only for your own sanity and well being. In this situation, Teresa is right to have done this since the Season 3 reunion, because it does not matter what you say or what anyone else tries to tell them. It won’t make a difference, when they want the other person to be the things that they say about them. Facts don’t matter, lies are acceptable, so you fight a losing battle where that person is concerned. Teresa has this going on in her family, and it is going on in the Manzo family, with Caroline being the know it all, full of integrity person. We, the viewers, however, are more objective and can see this is not the case.

    If you have followed the show from the beginning, and have a decent memory, you can recall the facts and see the changes that have taken place in the personalities of the cast. Most parents do have issues, particularly with their teens, and most would not allow them to be portrayed on camera for all their immature and careless moments to follow them possibly for life. I would never want my teen to be judged, especially by millions of strangers, and possibly loathed for their behavior. No one is perfect, and even those who think that they are clever, witty and entertaining, are not. Caroline is arrogant, and believes that her”bulldog”, no nonsense way is appropriate. We would call it conceited, despicable, angry and aggressive behavior.

    I hope for no reconciliations or more apologies at the reunion, unless it comes from everyone but Teresa. She has been attacked by all and for what amounts to jealousy. She does not need Jacqueline or Caroline in her life as they are toxic and angry. Her family is a different matter, because they are family. However, I do not believe that Melissa and Kathy and their families are sincere or loving. This has been about money and fame, and they have shown that they have no loyalty to Teresa, or any empathy for any of her problems. As sad as it is, Teresa is right to have nothing to do with them as well, unless things change.

    The best that I hope for on the reunion, is that Andy Cohen is objective and does not gloss over anyone’s issues as no one has glossed over Teresa’s. I hope that Teresa composes herself and responds to the women with facts. When asked about any of her legal issues, I hope Teresa will say that she has answered enough questions regarding their issues, and that the cast has already commented and speculated too much on her personal business, and she will not comment any further. We have already been voyeurs long enough to jealousy, anger and venom, and it has really been sad to watch.

    Caroline, Jacqueline, Melissa and Kathy, along with their families are despicable human beings that think it is okay to gang up on people and try to destroy their reputation. It is never okay to gang up on anyone for any reason, and a kind, and mature person would know that they could and should walk away from the situation, and keep their mouths shut. They did not do that during the season, and have not done that for the past year. I think we all expect the reunion to be more of the same, and Bravo is wrong to think that is what everyone wants to see. There is plenty of drama and tragedy in everyone’s lives, that it would be refreshing to see some harmony. Bravo needs to clean its house before they proceed with another season.

  14. SunnyAZ_1 says:

    Jeez I don’t know where to start as this is so mind boggling that I can’t believe Bravo has been spinning the last 2 seasons the way they have. Logically, the bottom line is money and ratings but there has to be a moral compass somewhere as to where enough is enough.

    First, let me state that I appreciate this blog and the efforts the writer has taken to “connect the dots”for us. I admit that I am guilty of getting too caught up in this family drama due to the hypocritical behavior of the cast with their double standards against Teresa, I can’t take it anymore. This will be my last season of watching if there is not a major shake-up for RHONJ.

    I have commented on the Bravo blogs and am so tired of my comments being edited. If Bravo and the cast are going to put it out there, then at least give the courtesy of allowing the viewing audience the opportunity to comment —- without edit. They always edit when I comment to Jacqueline what her psychic commented to her at the end of Season 2 – That Teresa would have daggers coming at her from everywhere! and anything I state about Punta Cana.

    My take on what is going on –

    I don’t believe for one minute that Jaq had a breakdown as to why she didn’t attend the Reunion. Why did they film Season 3 & 4 back-to-back? because they couldn’t gamble on a family making amends between the Seasons to botch their storyline. With that said they had to keep the animosity strong between the cast (ratings). IMO, Jaq was KEPT away from the Season 3 Reunion because she has proven herself to be impulsive and immature. In other words she has loose lips. Can you imagine if Jaq had been at the Reunion what she would have blurted out to spoil Season 4. She herself has said when she gets angry she gets mean. Look at everything she Tweeted during the R3 and the night of the PFS – proves my point. I also believe that Jacqueline is the source to a lot of the tabloid articles. Amusing how People magazine has the full clip to the Vineyard fiasco between Teresa and her husband. The clip that was part of the show that only the cast received. Teresa tries to sue to have the clip deleted, which delayed the air date. Due to that it was edited down to what we saw. Then bammo – Jacqueline has a story in People!

    I have zip respect for Jacqueline. She was one of my favorite in the beginning but once I realized she was using her daughter for her storyline to make her relevant on the show my opinion of her tanked. What mother does that? I felt she had no backbone to be a parent then was pissed at her daughter because she didn’t make the right choices. Attitude reflects leadership Jacqueline. This is also when I was noticing the change in Caroline. Who the hell was she to make snide comments regarding Ashlee yet she has 3 grown children still tied to her apron strings. How could Jacqueline stand to allow Caroline to insult her child the way she did? IMO I think Jacqueline was so relieved when Ashlee left, not because she was tired of her but I feel she chose the Manzo’s opinion over her own flesh and blood. ,Also, come hell or high water, if my child needed medical anything I would not be waiting for insurance coverage before that happened. That would be the last of my worries. If she can afford botox and plastic surgery she should be able to afford the evaluation of her child. As for his Autism – why so top-secret? If Jacqueline was in such anguish over this then why go on the trip to California? If she was in such a mental state to not attend a Reunion wouldn’t this issue be more pressing than that? and during a hurricane as well. Her anguish over her son didn’t stop her from tweeting insults or writing hurtful opinions on her facebook with regards to Teresa for the past year. She had no empathy as to what she has said and done to Teresa as to how it will affect Teresa girls yet she has the nerve to complain that Teresa hasn’t reached out to her. Huh? So question to Jacqueline would be is: what is it Jacqueline with regards to why you have been so different the past 2 seasons for your change? First it was hormones (low testosterone), then it was Teresa not being a good friend to you and now it’s the anguish you have over your sons disability. I get why you’d not be yourself and make some poor choices. This would be easier to digest as a viewer towards you if you had given the same PASS to your supposed friend who was going through some pretty severe personal and financial struggles as well but you didn’t so why do you our sympathies towards you when you yourself couldn’t towards another human being when they too were suffering.

    On to Caroline -, miserable, miserable woman. She is besides herself as to how Teresa has got so popular. She was banking on this show as her platform and now it’s doing a 180 on her. First she digs up history on a woman that has nothing to do with her and hates her because of her shady past, even calls her garbage as well. Caroline got rid of her which gave her even more clout on this show in her eyes. Bravo fed her ego and now she’s on to Teresa. She needs a piece of humble pie. This is why she has no relationship with Dina – bottom line. Dina doesn’t like to be around negativity which is what Caroline and her spawn and Greggy thrive on. Nuff said. She is pissed at Teresa because of Dina but Dina herself has squashed that rumor. Then the book comments which were already stated on the show. It was no news flash to anyone – especially if you’ve watched since season 1. Caroline and her children (greggy) talked trash about Teresa and her family, books, voice, mannerisms all during season 3 BEFORE the book was even released. So what was her excuse there?

    Kathy and Melissa – envious and greed. You’ve connected all the dots on this site with such clarity. They’ll get what they were seeking because they see their plan coming to fruition. But it will come as a much higher cost and any money they will gain from this shows exposure.

    I think Bravo will keep everyone except for Jacqueline. Caroline is a great puppet for Bravo. She thinks she’s in control but fails to see that Bravo has been pulling her strings all along.

    Kathy & Melissa are a topic for now but they have no base and the storyline is pretty much played out. How much longer can you stretch a family not liking each other.

    Sorry for rambling and the typos

    • famewhorgas says:

      You hit all the major points and didn’t ramble at all! I agree with everything you wrote. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

      • Llinda says:

        SunnyArizona your post is excellent. Bravo is disgusting to help demolish a family all for ratings and money. How Andy Cohen/producers live with this…I can’t comprehend?
        Teresa has her faults – for sure. She is no angel. But Teresa has consistently been the exact same every season. Love her or hate her, she never changes. Her denial of things is her way of coping with stress and hurt. That woman would die for her family. I believe she was lied to @ her lame ass family members joining the show, and quite frankly, that alone would have put me over the edge. Jac is so jealous she is full of so much hate that nothing coming from her ridiculous lips makes sense. She lies and follows Caroline because she is a weak and immature moron. She has attained wealth and attention by lying on her back – not hard work like Teresa. She uses her children to make her money and fame. Chris is no better. He too, a follower to Caroline. His shady lies and businesses-lawsuits, bankruptcies, embezzlement, the way he bought Ashlee cars with money that belonged to vendors/creditors….and without guilt. He looks in the camera and says he is honest and the Guidices aren’t good people! Who the hell are you to judge you sneaky thief! He is a male version of Caroline and I feel he and Jack are misrepresenting their son’s condition. They are broke and face serious Fed charges. They need a storyline and sympathy STAT! Not just from viewers, but from The Federal Judge! They are the most disgusting pigs of all, IMO! I hope they’re EXPOSED for every single lie they have told. If going to prison is a wakeup call-they failed miserably.

    • Maggs says:

      ^^^^This!!! you are SPOT ON SunnyAz !!

  15. SunnyAZ_1 says:

    I also forgot to comment about Rich…. he stated at his pool party that he asked his kids not to invite their friends because he didn’t want them (friends) to know that his kids were related to Teresa. Well guess what Sherlock, going on national TV with your drama for Teresa wasn’t the smartest thing to do was it?

    • autumnleaves61 says:

      Was that the same pool party where Joe Gorga said really filthy things to his sister, within ear shot of the kids?

      • Pv says:

        Yes it was. And so nasty and crude were Joes rantings that even bravo could not air the worst of it.

        • I live in the neighborhood says:

          Here’s a good laugh Victoria wakile said her mom won’t let her read 50 shades of gray… Excuse me aren’t you in college? PS your father showed his willy Johnson underv his boxes after taking a Viagra and your mother dress in clothes that r too tight, too short, and not age appropriate.

  16. MomaJackie says:

    I love all of the above posts. Also, glad to know it’s not only my posts that get edited on BRAVO or just not posted at all. I really believe they pick and choose to either lift up or put down a housewife.

    • Sackem says:

      I’ve been edited at Bravo!!!!

      I’m just watching some old episodes of Flipping Out, it’s cold and windy where I am. Andy has changed sooo much! It’s like his ego (it’s more than a confidence thing) is out of control, it’s very strange. My husband isn’t particularly statuesque but, have you ever heard of short man’s syndrome? I think this applies to Andy Cohen. I can see him rubbing his little hands together with glee all the way to the bank and enjoying the attention. I’ve never seen an executive producer act as interviewer, surely that’s a conflict of interest. Can we talk about narcissism here? Just quietly, I think he’s a bit anti women. Dramatic statement possibly but the way he deals with men is entirely different to the way he deals with women and please, I’m not implying anything negative about his sexuality…. to me these are totally different subjects. Anyone can be a misogynist! Just ask Joe Gorga!

      I’ve loved reading all these posts!! Glad to see so many of us on the same page when it comes to the rest of the cast!!!

  17. MomaJackie says:

    Watching Part 1 of the first reunion. Jacqueline looked so pretty at that time. She should really cut back on the botox, etc. Myself, a Danielle “hater” at the time, can now see how shocked poor Danielle was over some of the allegations pointed towards her. Jacqueline is truly a Caroline puppet. These days, more than likely and somewhat medicated and drunk puppet. It is no wonder she is confused. Dina more than likely had her issues with Danielle and I can respect that. Watching this first reunion, knowing what I know now, Caroline is just pure evil. Teresa stayed true to her two friends and Caroline.

  18. famewhorgas says:

    I just updated this article with info on the Project Ladybug debacle started by Jacqueline. Look for the text in orange about Project Ladybug.

  19. SunnyAZ_1 says:

    ?…. wasn’t Caroline wearing this exact same outfit that she was wearing while talking with Melissa on a much earlier episode… the episode where she is reading something on her laptop in her kitchen and slams it closed? I don’t have DVR or TiVo…. I’m clicking on the videos on Bravo’s sight and the pics aren’t on the earlier videos to choose from. I know that it used to show a pic of her sitting at her counter looking at her laptop because someone had asked her in her blog where she got her top from. My curiosity is killing me because I want to “connect the dots” from that video to this current one. Now that I know the Fabellini party was held on 10/07/11 and that Teresa couldn’t “mention” the truth as to why she didn’t invite Jacqueline due to being a “good” employee I’m pissed at the editing of the time lines in that Jacqueline had already Tweeted that Teresa was scum by this point. Annnddd, due to this timeframe, why would they make it out like Melissa was watching Teresa’s kids when the Reunion had already been filmed and there was already hostility again between them due to the PFS?

    I don’t think the Reunion went favorably for Teresa. You could cut the tension between Andy and Teresa. Did anyone else catch the comment she replied when asked about Dina leaving NJHW…. Teresa replied something like Dina made a smart decision and did what was best for her in leaving the show. Hmm? With the tension, Teresa wasn’t sitting next to Andy this time and there really wasn’t any lighthearted fun on this show. I think Teresa really see’s the light now and knows where she stands with Andy/Bravo. I think she knows how it makes his skin crawl when she references her dream she had about him…..lol.

  20. Jenn says:

    Hey FameWhorgas, I’m not sure if someone already posted the info you wanted regarding the Jac/Caroline whispered conversation in the season 1 finale but here it is…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAi0VfjzzDo&feature=plcp

    Love your site by the way. I’m glad that the truth is being said here, people really need to look at the facts and not just go by the what the show portrays.

    • Fame says:

      Thanks Jen. I finally got around to watching it but I couldn’t make out what was being said between Jac, Caroline and Dina while Danielle and Teresa were talking to each other. I updated the article to reflect this. I recommend everyone re-watch the scene now that you know more about the story.

      Here are bits of the argument:

      Should we tell the kids to go outside, Teresa says, so they don’t here the discussion. No one else seems concerned about that.

      Danielle: I know Dina revealed the book… and I know that her sister Caroline was with her on that day.

      Caroline: I’m the one that told them (Jac turns to look at Chris).

      Danielle: That’s not what I heard.

      Dina to Danielle: You told a vicious lie that could hurt me and my child (Jac smirks).

      Caroline: I took it to Chateau (Jac, opens mouth, turns to Chris).

      Jacqueline to Caroline and Dina: You two came into the salon and were showing it to everyone. The same person who told me told her.

      Dina and Jac argue, Jac says to Dina: You’re trying to act like you had nothing to do with it… you’re lying.

      Dina to Jac: You are two faced.

      Jac to Dina: You’re two faced, I’m not covering for you anymore.

      Caroline to Jac: Jacqueline, enough.

      Jac: I’m not lying.

      At the end of the heated exchanged:

      Caroline: You know who you’re hurting? My parents, Jacqueline.

      Jacqueline: Family or not, what’s right is right, what’s true is true.

  21. Giacinta from Italia says:

    Hello Joe Gorga,
    I like you to open your eyes all around you.Don’t let Caroline Manzo destroy your family…Your sister is a good person…she’s not malicious like Caroline Manzo.Be careful what you say to Caroline regarding your sister….Bravo does not give a s..t…they love ”discordia” between families.Also be careful with Kathy Wakile…she’s not that sincere…she loves all this ”garbage” aginst your sister.Tell Melissa to keep her relantionship with her sister in law….
    Please open your eyes….what i told you it is the truth….
    Caroline has destroyed so many lives….1st Danielle Staub…now it is Teresa…next time will be Melissa…and Kathy W.
    Signed ….. a friend

  22. Lana says:

    Caroline Manzo, Lauren “sweaty/stinky” Manzo, Jacqueline(nutso), Melissa (fake slut) and bug eyed sneak wannabe Kathy are all CUNTS!
    These pigs all make DANIELLE look like a SAINT!!!

  23. Tre says:

    She is a hypocrite who bought her lazy ugly slob daughter a lap band rather than have her learn to exercise & eat right! I hate her because she wears fur, is obssessed with being the center of attention, & bought her disgusting clueless daughter a salon rather than have her train & work her way up at another place doing that dreaded four letter word called WORK! I hate Jac Laurita because she cries the blues about her son who she was too old to have in the first place, wears fur, lies about plastic surgery that she’s had, sells info about Dina Manzo to the press, and has a jaw that looks like a deformed Oompa Loompa!

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