Joe and Melissa Gorga Hold Grudges: It’s Their Whole Storyline; The Entire Cast Has Storylines Based on Old Grudges Against Teresa Giudice (Updated 8/27/12)
August 6, 2012 59 Comments
Teresa holds grudges like no other, and I can’t control that. She has to decide her family is important enough to her and let it go. The issues going on between her and Jacqueline and Caroline have nothing to do with me. It’s pretty obvious they are upset with her for their own reasons. I will say that there definitely is a sense of reality that is missing lately with the fake dogs and all the other nonsense stories. Teresa doesn’t ever have to worry about me taking anything from her, she loses her credibility all by herself. What you will see if you pay attention is that Teresa is trying to take me down every chance she gets. She is attacking my character, my marriage, my looks. What she is claiming is happening to her is quite the opposite. There goes that projection again. I see my husband Joe doing nothing but putting his two feet forward and also trying to move on with his sister. He is trying his hardest to convince her that they need to do something to fix it. Everyone is trying to move on from the past. It’s funny how Teresa says to Jacqueline at the wedding that therapy brings up the past and she doesn’t want to bring up the past, she wants to start fresh. Well then please do it, Teresa! It’s time to move on. I wish I could let her know that constantly lying to try to convince everyone that I’m a bad person is only going to give her temporary satisfaction. In the long run actions speak louder than words or written words that someone else writes for you. I am trying to move on, but quite honestly she is making it impossible. I’m so sick of all this nonsense. If Teresa ever comes to us and says she needs us, we will be there. But she hasn’t. I’m a smart girl and I can figure out why she is doing this. I said it in my first blog on Bravo and it remains true to this day. Teresa likes to be the center of attention. Be beneath her or get the hell out of her way. I refuse to let her walk all over me, disrespect me or my family, and that’s the real issue. – Melissa Gorga, A Real ‘Rockstar’, June 12, 2012
The Cast Keeps a List of What Teresa Has Done ‘Wrong’, Which is the Definition of Holding a Grudge
According to Melissa (Her Conversation with Teresa on the Beach During Their RV Trip, Season 4 Episode 14) the Cast Apparently Keeps a List on What’s Wrong With Teresa and What She Has Allegedly Done to Them (Melissa Had a List on Her Cell Phone During Reunion 3, But She’s Not One to Hold Grudges!) — NEWSFLASH! Keeping a List is the Definition of ‘Holding a Grudge’
Melissa: You need to sit back from it maybe and say ‘What am I doing wrong? Because why am I having an issue with everyone?’
Teresa: Oh, really!
Teresa: If you have a problem, say it to the person and be done with it. Like, don’t hold grudges. I don’t hold grudges.
Melissa: And I agree with that. I’m not a grudge holder at all. I’m a person, I quickly forgive. But maybe I can see one or two things, but if they’re saying there’s like a list and
Teresa: What list?
Melissa continues: People constantly have a list of (stops in mid sentence to respond to Teresa’s question).
Melissa: I don’t know.
Melissa continues: But they have a list: ‘OK, you did this to me, then you did this to me’.
Teresa: Someone got in her [Jacqueline's] head.
Melissa: Who’s someone?
Teresa: I don’t know! I don’t know.
Jacqueline in her Bravo blog claims that Teresa is holding a grudge about Kathy’s cookbook comments but in reality Teresa is simply trying to air out her grievances and give Kathy the opportunity to explain herself (she took her aside and voiced concern). The RV trip was Teresa’s first chance in person with just Kathy present to address her concerns regarding Kathy’s very public accusations that Teresa and her mother stole Kathy’s mother’s recipes.
“Boy, Jacqueline, do we see things differently. Teresa telling Melissa what happened is not the same as holding a grudge. Holding a grudge is remaining angry directly with Kathy well after the confrontation. In Teresa’s direct interaction with Kathy, Kathy denied even using the word recipe, which apparently she did not. Rather she said she was just refering to the pictures of the cookies that were just like the cookies her mother used to make. The next day, when Teresa tells the story (most likely because she is still trying to understand Kathy’s intentions since Kathy was less than forthright), Melissa definitely takes Kathy’s side when she tells Teresa… “She said your mom called her mom for the recipe and then you put it in the book”. Obviously this is a complete contradiction to what Kathy said the night before when she insisted that she never even used the word recipe and she only meant to comment that those pictures of the cookies were like her mothers cookies. Poor Teresa, who can she trust. You say Melissa is trying to remain neutral, yet she seems to rely completely on the version of the story Kathy told her. I did not see Teresa act upset because Melissa was taking Kathy’s part. She seemed confused because Melissa’s version of Kathy’s story was so different than what Kathy herself said the night before to Teresa. Yet you feel for Kathy and Melissa, or at least the version of them you made up for yourself. And once again, Teresa is completely wrong and the other two are just high minded do gooders, perfect in there intentions much like you are. If you want the viewers to believe this you will have to tell us what you are drinking and how much so we can catch up and lose all perspective. Are there pills involved, because your view of things is pretty darn distorted. Enough about Teresa, tell us about you, your projects that are keeping you so busy. What are they specifically. Besides the whirlwind that is the marketing of BLK. Unfortunately a lot of the viewers live in the same country you do. You might want to walk back some of your claims of how well it is doing. It might hurt your credibility, and we do not want to burst that perfect bubble of denial you live in.” – littlewitch, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Jacqueline, why are you commenting on something that is really none of your business. Ummm taking sides. It’s clear to see because you dislike Teresa: you are automatically on “the other side”. I feel (just my opnion) that was so rude of Kathy and yes passive agressive. My natural comment would be “my mom makes those also.” If I cringed when she said that, my gut instinct tells me it was wrong. And if she didn’t mean it in that way, why is she backpeddling to say Teresas mom called her mom to get the recipe? That would only make sense if she said that comment meaning it was her mom’s recipe, so why would she be covering her tracks. Teresa was upset; I think she handled herself well. She did not address it at Kathy’s dessert tasting, and she did address it at the beginning of the trip, openly and honestly. Kathy never mentioned that her mom gave the recipe to Teresa’s mom. As for telling Melissa, maybe she did want her take on it, and did hear what Melissa said. However, in the end, as a viewer, I felt Kathy was wrong and innapropriate, and getting it out in the open was the right thing for Teresa to do. I know Teresa never does anything right according to you!” – valgal62, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Jacqueline, would you please stop with the nasty tweets, blogs, comments, talking heads, private conversations on tape? Maybe then Teresa could stop holding her “grudge”? Doesn’t the word “grudge” imply that the issue is in the past? It can’t be in the past if you keep doing it. If Kathy would stop it with cookie talk behind Teresa’s back, it would go away. So Teresa isn’t your type of friend….does that mean you have to hate her?” – Parkview, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Jacqueline, I feel like I am watching someone who I want to shake and say PLEASE STOP. STOP WITH ALL OF THIS CRAZINESS. Isn’t there one person in your family, or one friend, that can pull you aside and set you straight. What I mean about setting you straight in your inability to be logical. Nothing you say makes sense. Your mind is stuck and what you say is not based in reality. You said you have been trying to convince Teresa for seasons to forgive, or not hold a grude. You act as if Teresa knew everything that was going to be said ahead of time… are you nuts?? Who are you to insist your mis-guided thoughts on anyone? You overlook everything and have set your mind on hating another person. You all sound nuts. You AND THE REST OF THE CAST KEEPS SAYING TERESA DOSEN’T WANT ANYONE TO DO WELL?? WHAT ABOUT DINA AND HER NEW SHOW. DINA is the only one that has her own show. Teresa has kept her friendship with her and supports her and tweets about her show… did anyone in your family do that? Even if you are not talking, you could show her support; so who has the problem?. Caroline is a mean-spirited person who, once has set her sights on someone to dislike — or even worse, hate — has no bounderies. She has no guilt. I do not believe that Teresa has done anything that would warrant so much hate. If someone or a friend hurts you, you move on; you do not go out and try to destroy them. Do you get that???? I want this to be over because I cannot wait for the reunion. I hope that Bravo realizes that this is not entertainment and that is why people are taking Teresa’s side. I would take anyone’s side who was being talked about and surrounded by so much negativity. It will only come back to all of you. You try to come across as sweet, innocent and wounded. What people are seeing is a mean hearted unbalanced woman. Please Bravo get rid of this dark energy that has turned into a witchhunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! – Vicgrca1, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
“Isn’t that exactly what Caroline did at the beginning of the season??? She talked to Teresa and was still upset about the book! Good Lord, this show is full of hypocrites. It’s too bad, because I used to really like it!” – kamara_lynn, August 7, 2012, Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
It’s a double standard with this cast. All of them are permitted to whine and complain about Teresa and her transgressions, whether real or imagined (mostly imagined), from years ago, and then rehash them every day to anyone who will listen or any tabloid that will run with the story (as long as the cast can hide behind their true identities). But the minute Teresa addresses something that has just been brought to her attention (even though it many have occurred years earlier), she is holding a grudge. The hypocrisy of this cast is unbelievable!
By RHWvwr, Comment Made on Melissa’s Bravo Blog, ‘Breaking Down the Wall’
August 6, 2012
Okay, this is long but hopefully BRAVO grants me this respectful yet honest Brain Dump.
Melissa, these blogs carry so much animosity because we’re very aware of what you’ve done. It’s as simple and complex as that. The fact that you guys, Teresa’s “family,” are embracing their future devastation, perhaps jail time, with smugness and even anticipated glee is the sum of all the parts you brought with you. And there’s not a person out here who doesn’t know you are hoping for the worst case scenario for the Guidices because it will be public knowledge, and on our television screens, in our homes is where you play your game against Teresa for fame.
This is and was, the worst case of personal battery that I have not only ever heard of, but actually had to witness. I can’t even watch re-runs. I understand that sounds mundane, but I used to SO enjoy channel surfing if I happened to be home, and catching old RHW episodes, especially NJ because it was fun, glamorous and most importantly, left me happy. Then you joined. Now, I cannot stomach to watch these last two seasons a second time. Not a single episode. I can’t. The ONLY time I’ve enjoyed myself for the past two season’s is when Teresa has filmed scenes with Gia.
Gia’s “song” that she performed and the aftermath was so hard to wrap my brain around. And it’s because Teresa couldn’t fix the problem for her daughter who was in so much pain. Teresa COULDN’T because the problem, as defined by you guys, was a LIE.
Teresa keep saying let’s leave the past behind, but you and Joe COULDN’T because then you would have no storyline. Teresa was left scratching her head wondering why everyone was getting angrier, having no idea you were manipulating behind the scenes and working the talking head’s chairs to just crucify her, every– single– episode. If you had stopped like she wanted to, your conversations with the Wakiles and rest of the cast would have gone “off plan.” Your purpose and blueprint would have needed a new script, so you continued the manipulations to keep your storyline alive. When she wasn’t fighting back, you created more: Joe’s re-enacted scene telling you what Teresa said in private arched the entire season’s plot. Teresa tried to move on but you couldn’t let that happen or you were left with just ‘you,’ and you knew you needed the momentum of the “Teresa needs to be Ruined” storyline everyone was climbing on board with, especially after she created another best seller, or as you called it, “making some extra cash.”
THAT’S what happened Melissa, and that’s why we aren’t buying this “we are getting closer” blog. You already had the wheels in motion and you saw your future pop star career at the demise of your sister in law, and there was no stopping you.
Teresa couldn’t SAY what the problem was, what we all have come to learn IS the problem. She couldn’t say “Melissa wants to be famous more than she wants to breathe, and she’s so jealous of my spot on this show, she’s come on to unearth every family fracture and smear me to anyone who will listen because not only does that get her ON the show, it has the added GOAL of ruining me because she’s sat in a silent jealous STUPOR for two years while I’ve been famous!”
And she certainly couldn’t tell Gia what you were doing. So we all had to sit through the facade that ALL of this was Teresa and Joe’s strained relationship, knowing DARN WELL that you and your constant manipulations and paralyzing envy was what was causing GIA and her entire family so much pain.
Teresa finally tried to tell Jacqueline once she was faced with the truth about you and Danielle, but by then your easy plan of getting rid of Teresa and her success to make room had infected the entire cast. Had Teresa been a secondary character on this show, like a “Kathy,” and non threatening in competition, you would have been soo different, but you knew you needed to pull the trigger.
You gave yourself away at the beginning because why would you come on so defensive, guns blazing if you knew you didn’t mean any harm? You and Teresa had a strained relationship so, of course, Teresa wouldn’t welcome the idea of you on the show — who would? If you’ve used that excuse in your head to sleep at night you better buy some sleep aide.
Well, now I hope Teresa can just say what we all know, because THAT’S why she becomes so tongue tied — you have her trapped. She can’t explain away your actions without stating the above because you’ve masterly manipulated it under the guise of a brother/sister conflict. Baloney!
Teresa may be self absorbed, but there’s not a malicious bone in her body, even now after all you’ve done. Your Joe is a rotten man for going along with you, but he most likely STILL doesn’t know what he has in you. Kathy has shocked me the most after your Joe. She hopped on your ill-will and rode it for all she could get. She was pivotal in this plan and her eyes were wide open (no pun intended.) Richie is the sorriest man I have ever come across on a reality show. I could care less about his verbiage and juvenile behavior; I think that part of him is harmless. What isn’t harmless is trashing his wife’s cousin, a woman, on National TV for two years because he thinks she’s in the way of him making some big bucks off of his wife landing a role.
Joe Guidice has never sat in that chair like a HW and planned a personal smear. His “reality” rant was well deserved after watching his wife tortured at the hands of her family for two seasons. Teresa on her worst day has not attacked you all — she hasn’t and that drives you nuts. THAT’S why the fans are carrying her through this.
I understand you were miserable in that small town with your nemesis so huge in pop culture and starring on a show, but the way you crawled onto this show with zero considerations for Teresa, her girls or your in-laws has clearly defined you. I really don’t think you care: all I can hope is for karma to stop you in your tracks because that’s the ONLY thing that will reach someone like you.
Today they showed the top 20 moments in reunion history. You created Teresa’s hell before you even signed your contract. The reunion where she became so visibly upset and pushed Andy away (which I still think he harbors resentment) was because Danielle was using information YOU fed her to use on the reunion. She went ballistic when Danielle mentioned YOU because she didn’t want HER family’s name dragged through the mud. Isn’t that rich irony! I cannot believe you called Danielle to give her reunion “ammo.” Geez, did you watch the reunion on the edge of your chair at home waiting for your “moment?”
After that scene, how you THEN came on swinging makes you something I can’t even print. I’m beginning to rethink Danielle after watching you, and I hope she does pop up on the reunion to redeem herself. You used her Melissa. That scene is what spring boarded Caroline into her Danielle rant that made us all think Danielle was a monster. Now seeing how Caroline bullies, I’m beginning to think Danielle did not get a fair shake.
I do know how harsh this blog sounds but you’ve brought us here. No one wins here, least of all your nieces or in-laws. The only upside is you’ve made Teresa even larger. I’m sure bloggers will let me have it for being so vocal but we are very invested, because we are very angry. What you did was wrong and it was planned. And we’re stopping it. I just want my show back, and that will not happen until you are fazed out. Teresa may forgive, but the fans certainly won’t.
By mktgdrivethru,Comment Made on StoopidHousewives
July 31, 2012
Italian parents favor the son to point of insanity in some cases — the sun rises and sets on him — especially since Joe Gorga was the only son and the youngest (like my father) he was probably doted on by his mother and sister. Unfortunately, that distorted his view to the point where he thinks that the world should follow suit. Couple that with a singular lack of intelligence and there you have Joe Gorga. Remember, he had two or three failed engagements before hooking up with Melissa. I knew guys like him (and was briefly engaged to one) where they are not so much in love with the girl, but the IDEA of her — a whore in the bedroom, a chef in the kitchen and a mother to take care of his every need and breed. So basically, any (Italian) girl willing to adhere to those conditions would do.
Seems to me that he had an agenda — as did Melissa, whose reputation was not the best in those parts. And to old school parents, no woman is ever good enough for their prince — especially one who even Joe Gorga referred to as “the whore of Babylon” – – and now she is the mother of their grandkids.
So they (including Teresa) put up with her, but will never ever accept her. She knows it. He knows it. And it enrages him, as it goes against his distorted view THAT EVERYTHING HE DOES IS PERFECT. Hence, the “angel from God” comment. He truly believes that.
So now his sister has fame and attention and her husband is loved by their parents (being family friends from the same village) and worlds collide — all at his baby’s christening. So JoeGo reacts like Mount Vesuvius and feels completely justified in doing so. Make no mistake — this is not out of undying love and respect for his wife — he treats her no better than the whore of Babylon himself. No wonder the previous two fiancees ran.
Not that I am shedding any tears for Melissa — she is just as bad — set up as mommy and daddy’s special snowflake her whole life and only surrounds herself with people who worship at her altar. She is calculating and went into this with her eyes wide open, but also is nowhere near as clever or interesting as she thinks she is. She couldn’t fool the Gorgas into buying the sweet and innocent act — and most of the viewing audience isn’t fooled either.
Now as for Kathy — she is unfortunately typical of the jealousy that runs rampant in these too-close-knit almost clannish families. Their views are so insular, they cannot see the world beyond their own backyards. So in this world, Teresa was likely the most favored diva, attention-grabbing princess, and Kathy was forced to sit on the sidelines, making passive-aggressive comments to soothe her bruised ego. Now, she has her chance to sit at the cool kids table (as her gross nerd husband) and she is clinging to it like grim death. Kathy is also neither smart enough or interesting enough to hold her own, so she will be back at the stove soon enough.
Hypocritical Statements Made By the Cast in Their Bravo Blogs, Etc.
Let’s talk about Zia Maria. Kathy’s mother is amazing. She has truly been through so much in her life, and she never complains about anything. She is one of the sweetest, most kind-hearted women I know. She had an unfortunate experience as a child, and I could never imagine how it must have felt for her as a little girl. I love the way she never held a grudge against her siblings. I know she always calls my father-in-law to go to the market and to spend time together. She is a woman that never cared about having material things and just wanted to take care of her children. God bless her. I love her so much… I know Teresa tried to insinuate that Kathy is just here for Rosie now because of the show. I knew Kathy and Rosie way before the show and have always seen nothing but pure love and a great relationship between the two of them… The important thing is that no matter what they will be there for each other and support each other. Siblings fight, that’s normal. But they don’t hold grudges, they make up after, and they always wish the best for one another. It is a beautiful thing to see a united family. – Melissa Gorga, Let’s Fix the Gorgas!, July 2, 2012
Of course there is always some drama, but at least Teresa and I laid it all out on the table. When Teresa asked me about Danielle, I told her the truth. I was wrong, so I apologized and hopefully we have moved past this. She is the one constantly saying to forget about the past and move on. You saw the solstice party episode, right? I forgave and moved on, because she is family. I know I’m never going to get her to totally change the way she treats me, but as long as she backs off my marriage, we can do this. – Melissa Gorga, Make It Work, June 25, 2012
I’m tired of trying to understand why Teresa can’t let go of her grudges to make an honest attempt to reunite the family. My dad made a good point. Why do I care? I don’t know. It’s a train wreck that I can’t walk away from. – Jacqueline Laurita, Leaving the Nest, July 2, 2012
I felt that if Teresa wanted to move forward with her family, she needed to give it a sincere effort and I knew that she wasn’t. She was SO afraid of her family looking better than her that she would do or say anything to take them down and step on anybody’s head to be the one on top at all times. She continued to try to make them look bad, and I think that although they were well aware of her insincerity, they also wanted to give her the benefit of doubt with hopes of being a closer family again. They have been down this road with her before. Teresa holds on to grudges FOR LIFE! I feel like she is incapable of true forgiveness. She never sees the faults in herself or takes any blame for anything. She may have fooled some of you into thinking she is sincere about this overnight change in attitude toward her family, but she wasn’t fooling me. It became very clear to me after watching her in action that as fake as she was being to her family, pretending that she loved them and wanted peace, that she had also been the same kind of fake to me, and had been faking our friendship for a while now. It was a hurtful realization. – Jacqueline Laurita, Don’t Get It Twisted, June 27, 2012
The fact that you see Teresa forgive me on camera about what happened on field day while we were in her closet before our trip to Chicago (“Water under the bridge” she says) is evidence of how phony she is. She’s obviously still holding a grudge. Just like she OBVIOUSLY is still holding a grudge against her brother while swearing on her children that she isn’t. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. I just wanted her to be real with herself and want to sincerely heal the relationship with her brother so that she could be happy and at peace. Teresa takes no accountability for the strain in their relationship and blame shifts it all onto her brother and Melissa. It sickens me to see that. If you listen to Teresa’s brother, Joey, you can hear the sincerity in his voice and see it in his eyes. He admits that maybe he is doing something wrong that may may have contributed to the downfall of their relationship and he decided that maybe if they open up communications through therapy, that they could fix their relationship. – Jacqueline Laurita, Love is Love, June 3, 2012
The difference with Teresa’s family dynamic and ours is that she claims she WANTS a relationship so badly with her brother and his family, but then sabotages the same relationship by interfering with potential opportunities they might benefit from behind the scenes. She never takes responsibility for her mistakes nor does she take any sincere actions to correct them. She seems to have difficulty communicating in order to resolve conflict but seems able to easily communicate blame of others. She continues to hold grudges against Melissa and her brother but pretends not to. Dina and I have at least tried to talk with one another about our issues. Unfortunately, sometimes people just have irreconcilable differences. For now I’m respecting Dina’s need for space but if she ever came to me wanting to sincerely try again, I know that I would. – Jacqueline Laurita, Love is Love, June 3, 2012
Teresa says she doesn’t like to hold grudges and I can only hope that holds true and I will continue to hope for a sincere reconciliation. – Kathy Wakile, Over It?, October 4, 2011
Wandering the reception grounds of Jamie Laurita’s wedding (season 4), Teresa and Jacqueline come across a Buddha statue. Teresa gets Joe Gorga’s text about therapy. Jacqueline is sick of it — all she’s heard for two years is drama between Teresa and Joe. Teresa explained that she doesn’t need any therapy. She wants a fresh start. Teresa says her brother holds onto grudges and she doesn’t. Jacqueline calls bulls— on that, but only to the camera.
Teresa Defends Herself Against the Accusations Made By the Cast That She Holds Grudges
Caroline is just full of crap, plain and simple. I have nothing more to say about her. As far as Jacqueline goes, she is a really hard person to be good friends with because she is so unstable and moody. But I never thought her moods would turn crazy against me. She was screaming at me to “move on” and forgive Melissa for something evil that Melissa did two years ago, but guess what? I just found out about it a week earlier! Give me some time to process it! And I had already decided to and did publicly defend Melissa. How is it holding an old grudge when you just found out? – Teresa Giudice, You Can’t Argue with Crazy, June 18, 2012
I hate to write anything negative about Kathy since we ended the episode so well, but I just want to point out that for all her complaining, she can’t win with me, I feel the same way about her! She’s mad on the beach when I walk away, she’s upset when I come back calm, she stews about it, talks to the cows about it… She said something that upset me, I got mad, I cooled off, done. I really don’t carry grudges. She carries stuff around forever. She’s calling it a “battle” six days later. It’s exhausting to me, and I have four little girls! You did see me apologize (for the hundredth time this season?), admit I overreacted, and try to patch things up with her. She is my cousin, she is my family, and I will love her no matter what. – Teresa Giudice, Let the Good Times Roll, October 4, 2011
Teresa pulled Kathy aside during season 3 and apologized for overreacting on the beach at Punta Cana. “I don’t want you ever to think I would ever, ever insult your abilities of being a mom,” Kathy tells her. “You are a great mom, and I don’t want that to be between us.” They both say they want to recapture the close relationship they used to have. Teresa said: “I don’t like to hold grudges. That’s not me.”
On the beach in California (during their RV camping trip during season 4) Teresa defends herself against Melissa’s accusation that she is the problem: “If you have a problem, say it to the person and be done with it. Don’t hold grudges. I don’t hold grudges.” Melissa herself then proclaims that she doesn’t hold grudges.
Bravo Video: Teresa Doesn’t Hold Grudges (After their first and only therapy session, Teresa encourages Joe to tell her if anything else is bothering him, so they don’t build up more animosity.)
They All Hold Grudges
Bottom line: Teresa got the show and became famous. This is everything that Melissa always wanted and didn’t get. Teresa becomes famous and Melissa tells Danielle about family trash (because she’s jealous of Teresa). Now Melissa is on the show, and she has gotten what she wanted–what Teresa has. Jacqueline is angry with Tereas for a reply to a tweet from Danielle. Why? It’s not a betrayal to her. Jacqueline said that she wanted to separate herself from Teresa family, not the other way around. They all hold grudges. – ItalianMother, August 6, 2012, Teresa’s Bravo Blog
“No one will ever get over what has happened until they quit the show. Every episode brings up old grudges and creates new ones from things said in the past.” – Sgee, July 16, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com
“Teresa can’t win with these people. If she forgives the shameless strumpet MeGo, Jacowhine says she is being fake. If she doesn’t forgive MeGo, then she is castigated for holding grudges. Heads you lose, tails I win. No matter what she does, she is the bad guy. Also, Jacowhine is going off script again. Chuckie and Katty keep saying how Teresa has changed and they don’t like the person she has become, but Jacowhine now has all these criticisms of Teresa going back for the entire duration of their friendship. I don’t get it. If Teresa was always such a jerk and stuff, why was WackoJacko friends with her for more than 10 years? It doesn’t make sense and Jacko should stick to the script that Chuckie has given her. “- Ana Cephaly, August 6, 2012, StoopidHousewives
“I’m not on Teresa’s side at all, but I do think Melissa seems pretty awful because she keeps saying such awful things about Teresa! On the episode I thought it may be clever editing, but then I read her blog where she just spewed everything she seems to have been holding in about her sister-in-law. And then the Life & Style article! I can’t believe anyone would say such terrible things about their family publicly. I don’t respect anyone for that. – detrcait, May 18, 2011, LynnNChicago
Kathy’s Mother Nonni, The Real Voice of Reason
During a season 3 episode, viewers saw Kathy getting ready for a Christmas dinner with her family with help from her mother Maria. Her mother explained the whole argument with her brother (Teresa’s father) and how it was over a shoe repair shop that he brought from her husband. Giacinto, Teresa’s father, claimed the shop was paid for, but Kathy’s father said it wasn’t — the difference was between $100-$150. Her mother tells her she shouldn’t hold grudges because you never know how long family will be around.
Here’s What the Cast Keeps Telling the Viewers Is Wrong with Teresa (We Have to ‘Read Between the Lines’)
- Teresa is fake and a bully, and she is losing her sense of reality and has no real friends left
- Teresa is competitive to a fault
- Teresa holds grudges and won’t let go of the past (when the entire cast has storylines based on their grudges against Teresa)
- Teresa is a coward who stirs the pots and walks away (when, in actuality, Teresa was putting on a happy face and letting things roll off her back and was, at the time, in the dark about their evil agenda)
- Teresa is selling stories to tabloids to garner pity from the viewers while presenting her cast mates in a negative light (“profiting from people’s pity,” according to Jacqueline)
- Teresa is spending money while in bankruptcy (notice how the entire cast in separate scenes mentions the exact same things: carport, garage with apartment above it, new closet, new furniture, expensive purses)
- Teresa is trying to keep up with the Gorgas
- Teresa is not loyal to her family (Melissa has a lot of nerve to question Teresa’s loyalty when Teresa’s brother and cousin have none)
- Teresa is trying to breakup Melissa’s marriage
- Teresa is a bad aunt and mother (these haven’t stuck)
- Teresa doesn’t support the other cast members’ business endeavors and also tries to steal them
- “Teresa is never happy for any of the good things that went on in our lives” (direct quote of Melissa in OK! magazine)
- Teresa is in cahoots with Kim D and Penny to setup Melissa to expose her past/assassinate her character
- Joe Giudice is homophobic
- Teresa doesn’t want to fix her relationship with her brother
- Teresa never takes responsibility for her actions
- Teresa is playing victim but Melissa is the real victim
- Melissa is doing everything she can to fix the relationship between Joe and Teresa but Teresa doesn’t care (when, in fact, Melissa is the root cause of the conflict and the others are just pawns in the Marco sisters’ game)
Reunion 4 Tips for Teresa Giudice
By pjbeaudry, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
August 27, 2012
TRUTH: to be perfectly honest you absolutely had no right to be mad at Teresa for the toast!
TRUTH: your husband called Teresa a fuc@$ing bit@#,
TRUTH: your husband said Teresa was out to sabotage you!
TRUTH: Richie said Teresa was getting nastier and nastier!
TRUTH: Richie threw Teresa’s cookbook in the garbage!
TRUTH: Richie called Teresa and idiot!
TRUTH: Richie said Teresa really can’t cook!
TRUTH: Richie said Teresa was a terrible business woman!
TRUTH: Richie said Teresa has no loyalty!
TRUTH: Richie said Teresa was to inappropriate to be around his kid’s friends!
TRUTH: Richie said Teresa is garbage!
TRUTH: Richie said Joe doesn’t want Teresa in bed so what makes her think he wants her in a vineyard!
TRUTH: Teresa wasn’t turning her back on Caroline! Caroline turned her back on Teresa! I don’t know how that’s suddenly Teresa’s pattern of behavior!
TRUTH: you came on RHONJ with two agendas; deserts, and trashing your cousin Teresa!
TRUTH: your riding Teresa’s coat tails!
TRUTH: you would step on your own family for fame and fortune
TRUTH: I hope this is your last season! You are not relevant unless your talking about Teresa!
“Thank God you are not my cousin so you couldn’t stab me in the back and take the side of someone bullying me!”
By PandaBear, Comment at AllAboutTRH.com
August 27, 2012
Here’s what I don’t understand, why was she surprised Teresa respected the diagnosis of her son? Unless i’m mistaken Teresa has never spoken ill of any of Jacqueline’s children. She has barely said anything about anyone else’s children with the exception of Chris’ strip wash. Which was more about his idea than him personally.
Caroline has repeatedly spoken ill of many minor children (Danielle’s, Teresa’s) and even her own niece Ashley.
People claim Teresa is a liar and they are sick of lies. When someone only lies to me, I stop asking them questions. I let them go about their life because I really don’t care. And EVERYONE lies, you do, I do, we all do. I hate it when people get so in a huff about lying. We’ve all lied to someone else for whatever reason.
If Teresa didn’t want to tell you the truth, so the eff what. If she’s a known liar accept that and let her live with her lies. Why would you get so angry when you all at this point don’t even like her?
Its honestly psychotic to get this angry over her not telling the truth about HER business. I don’t read tabloids but did she ever sell stories saying their husbands were having affairs, they were going into bankruptcy, they were criminals? Ever? Even when they blamed her for Jac being called a stripper it was proven it wasn’t her.
Is Teresa the picture of honesty? No. Has it ever been proven that she’s said anything that harmed the Laurita’s or Manzo’s? Nothing that I can find.
By RHWvwr, Comment Made on Teresa’s Bravo Blog, ‘Open Heart, Open Mind’
August 9, 2012
The best way to tell someone’s character, is to see them behind closed doors. Oh if we could be flies on the wall. With this show, and the contrived scenes and purposeful talking heads agenda time after time, we’ve been given front row seats as flies. I think the people who say we can’t know intent are flat out wrong.
Teresa, you had no idea what was going on in those talking head chairs and in the scenes that were filmed without you. It was constant, and I can only imagine the pain you endured while watching. And no one talks about that. These women act appalled if you should defend yourself now, yet they spent two seasons setting up the “story” exactly as they saw fit with no proof or responsibility for their hateful words—just crazy!
The last reunion was filmed after this season we are watching now had been completed, so those women had the perfect storm once they decided to parlay their energies together. Your family wanted what you had bad enough to destroy you, and they did it in front of our faces. Even now, when I think of the things your brother said cold stone sober in the talking head chair, I don’t know how he expects you ever to be in his life. They had a plan and they were merciless. Even when they saw it working, they continued the fight until you were on the floor.
Joe telling the audience what you said in a private conversation, and I believe for the SECOND time to Melissa, proved to me who they are and what they were willing to do. And it’s ugly. Melissa, I understand. She wants to be famous, and she has enough talent to have believed it was possible. She does not have enough talent to see her dreams to fruition. Not even close.
Melissa has peaked, and she’s going to get angrier and uglier, because now that you’re not in their lives, how will they carry their story on the show next year? She of course is saying “she knows why you’re doing this”, that “she’s not dumb: it’s because you want all the attention for yourself.” How ludicrous. How about because you watched her try and ruin your life and that of your family with a fortitude and smugness that had its own life. Perhaps she should go get her own show.
Every scene, every moment for your family, was about trashing you so the fans would follow in like form. Didn’t work because you didn’t fight back. And I believe it’s because you had NO idea what they were doing until you’ve watched this year–and you truly wanted your family repaired.
Losing family is painful, but please do so. If just for your girls. And for your husband. The hate all of these women have, and the hopes that they can make it if you are removed from the playing field, is their oxygen. The atmosphere in their homes must be stifling with “hate.”
They like to judge your children, which has them publicly bashed, and they enjoy it, and even encourage it. But I see lovely, full of life girls that are loved unconditionally and have parents who have given them an extraordinary example of pulling together when the chips are down. Even when the chips are their own family and close friends.
These women and their husbands have built careers on ruining you, and their children are being raised to see that as acceptable because fame is the end-all prize. I don’t see how they will come out unscathed and not grow up to do the same.
No matter what they say, you have tried to move on, even after you had learned of Melissa and Danielle, and after everything your brother has said. You still talk about forgiveness, which is remarkable. OF COURSE you should bring up these issues: we would IMPLODE if you didn’t, and so would you. Anyone who tells you you are “hanging onto” anything is just ludicrous and unworthy of a reply. This was thought out and contrived. You hang onto this until they apologize. And then forgive in your heart only. If they don’t apologize, forgive in your heart and move on. Either way, lose this toxic baggage that’s crept into your home and your girl’s future. YOUR future is bright and surrounded by good energy. They can hardly say the same. And that’s why they’re circling the airport on fumes.
LisLwr, Comment Made on Teresa’s Bravo Blog, ‘Open Heart, Open Mind’
August 9, 2012
Teresa had NO idea that her family had spent two seasons bashing her. Yes, she knows NOW, but while filming this (a year ago), she thought the whole problem was her relationship with her brother and how she and Melissa were getting along to help it get better. She didn’t KNOW they were trying to ruin her because their envy and greed had turned them into backstabbing monsters in their scenes with the Wakiles and in every talking head chair. She didn’t know!
Her first clue was Kathy doing this at the book signing with the cookies. Think about it. The reunion hadn’t even happened yet. She knew what Kathy was doing with that comment, but had no idea Melissa was leading the way. Of course Melissa wouldn’t act like Kathy did anything wrong — Kathy is her puppet. A normal person’s response, especially right after Teresa found out she contacted DANIELLE, would have been completely different. This is so transparent — sometimes I think you people who write in defending these ladies are set up by Bravo, just so there’s an argument going, because how can ANYONE not see it! Uhg.
By valgal62, Comment Made on Teresa’s Bravo Blog, ‘Open Heart, Open Mind’
August 10, 2012
Teresa, I am not a T lover nor have I been drinking the koolaide, nor am I an idiot, as your cousin refers to the viewers. She might want to rethink that since us idiots continue to create her paycheck.
In fact, I would have never guessed you would have turned out to be the savvy business women you have become. I credit you with actually taking the high road that the others claim. It seems they bait you so that you will react and look bad. It must be hard to keep your mouth shut with all the hypocrisy and lies. How about when your brother moved into his mansion simply to create a lifestyle to get on the show. If they were living there as they claimed before the show, then the records wouldn’t show it was still a construction loan. Melissa said Joey surprised her with plans to build her dream house, and then went on WWHL and stated it was a flip.
You knew the truth, but we have seen when it comes to your family you are old school and keep family business private. Keep with the high road as it is serving you well. (I sure wish Dina and Danielle would be surprise guests at the reunion.)
Remember, at the reunion that you don’t have to answer to Caroline – and Andy is the host, NOT HER. She kept demanding Danielle answer to her. If you really want to get her, apologize from the bottom of your heart for whatever you did that may have hurt the others and go in for a “Danielle hug” to Jaq and the others. When we see their reactions, especially Caroline’s, the truth will be clear for everyone.
Caroline is the worst of the grudge holders, and can not forgive or admit she’s wrong. If she thinks for one minute that her soldiers have gone soft on her, she will go balistic! We have seen it before: the finger pointing, the tears, the hate — about something so dreadful that once again she won’t be to talk about it — but it doesn’t really exist. I would love to see her a** in the hot seat at the reunion, simply because she deserves it. PLEASE ANDY DON’T LET THE VIEWERS DOWN!!!!
By RHWvwr, Comment Made on Teresa’s Bravo Blog, ‘Open Heart, Open Mind’
August 10, 2012
What Teresa needs to do at the reunion is not make excuses for when she was wrong. Yes, they love getting her to react. It may work on that stage, but it won’t work in our homes (ya know, the place where the “consumers” are.) And she has been wrong a couple of times, and she’s admitted it. But they have played such a game of “gotcha” with her, that they will orchestrate the entire reunion around a couple of MINOR things she has done without talking about the ELEPHANT in the room, because how can Teresa say:
“Melissa wanted my life and almost destroyed me out of mind numbing jealousy” and “the other women are in full blown ‘hate’ because BLK failed and they’ve lost everything while I wanted no part of it, and my stuff is booming.”
Come on, she can’t say that, and EVERYONE knows that those two issues are the ENTIRE PROBLEM. If BLK had been a “SkinnyGirl” phenomenon, Jac and Caroline would not be mad at Teresa. It’s a no brainer.
So when they make the reunion around (and they will) the cookbook and her private conversation, Teresa should say, “Yea, the cookbook was a mistake; I was kidding, but I understand you didn’t take it as a joke, and I’m sorry,” and move on WITHOUT getting angry.
Even when Caroline says Teresa was talking about her “boys”, she shouldn’t get mad because Caroline’s counting on that. AND when they bring up (and they will) the private conversation with Teresa’s brother, she should not get defensive but say the truth: “I was mortified Joe told Melissa that, but I was hearing it around town, and after seeing what she has done to ME (family) it really isn’t that much of a stretch.” It’s the truth and we’re all thinking it. Let Melissa drop her smug jaw, and let the other women shake their heads in agreement… I actually expect Kathy that night to morph into a bobble head.
We all know at home what they’ve done, and even Emily Post says you don’t have to apologize to someone about something you said in private, but do it anyway without getting mad. And whenever they are hiding the real issue as to why they hate you — your SUCCESS — don’t get frustrated — we’re doing that at home FOR you — just turn to the camera and smile.
Better yet, how about we have a private sign? Every time we know it’s about Melissa crawling on this show in jealousy and desire to take you down, or about Caroline and Jaq’s burning hate over BLK failing, you just scratch your nose? That will be our private signal — all of us — with you, ok? Perfect! The 95% will know, from the scratching of the nose, that YOU know we’re home, drinking Fabellini and more convinced than ever that we know exactly who these women are and what they’ve done. How perfect, scratching your nose, that is… as in “Go Scratch!”
The Cast Will Never Explain in Detail What Teresa Did to Them Because They Will Sound Petty and Childish and Will Be Exposed and the Ones Holding onto Old Grudges
ladybug69, Comment Made on Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
August 16, 2012
Caroline really got to you because you are splitting out the same amount of BS as she is. I understand when someone says something and it really doesn’t make sense from the sentence before, but when you write it in a blog you get to proof read it to to make sure it makes sense. You go from what Teresa did, to what she didn’t do, to what you didn’t want to do, to how it is more then this and that. How about just saying point blank what really happen.
You do not break up a friendship of 10 years over the BS you are saying. You take a break, don’t hang as much. You talk to them. Teresa told you she doesn’t ask you about your personnel life because she doesn’t care. Well we all know she doesn’t express herself correctly; you should know this better than us. In the same breath, she told you there are certain things one keeps to one’s self. So, meaning if you as her friend want to talk to her about it, you do. It’s not that she doesn’t care; it’s she is waiting for you to open up to her.
Now on this tabloid issue: we all know that they write what they think is happening or is going to happen. They twist everything you say. They need to make saless and sad, but true, that is what sells. You buy it because you want to know the dirt, or so called dirt, on others’ point blank. Teresa told you what is going on, and she even told you talk to her lawyer so you can see she is not keeping nothing from you.
You say that you werea going through a lot in your life and that you didn’t need the added stress. Guess what then, don’t get all in her business, don’t go searching for what is not there or what they don’t want you to be a part of. We are not stupid: you started your blog about Teresa being competitive in other aspects and that’s part of the reason for your fight. You just let us know it’s about her being on top and all of you are trying to get there and can’t. And other times the Manzo boys mention how she is taking all the markets, selling everything she can: makeup, cloths, cook books. You are all envious of her and all she is trying to do is take care of her family. She is not sitting at home trying to know everyone’s business and control the people around her.
I hope all this is talked about at the reunion and that you see the error of your ways so maybe then you will do all the things you talk about doing — if Teresa can, and she is all you say she is — then you are worse because you haven’t accomplished anything but lose a friend of 10 years and get part of America to dislike you.
ChrisSaTx, Comment Made on Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
August 14, 2012
I’ve never been just a Teresa fan, I’ve loved you all, especially you Jacqueline, you’ve always been my favorite. However, I really feel real friends don’t meddle in family dynamics, or become so obsessed with tabloid articles about their friends. Teresa has enough to deal with without having to worry about you being upset about ridiculous tabloid articles, whether they are true or not.
Everything in the tabloids was about her finances or marriage, which you said should be off limits, so why call her out on it? Why not just be a true friend and ignore the articles and listen to your friend? If she says she didn’t give that info, then maybe she didn’t, or if she did do it for the money, she had to be desperate and probably is embarrassed she’s had to do that to support her family during their rough financial times. People do things in desperation sometimes to support their families. If you never have, you are very fortunate.
A true friend wouldn’t be so selfish and make it about them. You’ve known who she was and how she was for a LONG time, so I don’t understand why the “poor me” crying and now putting your two cents in about her issues with Kathy and Melissa with this blog. IF you’re done with Teresa, then be done; don’t blog unnecessary comments about issues with her family so you can point out how she’s wronged you. Focus on you’re family, and quit pointing out others faults; it only reflects poorly on you, and I believe you’re a better person than that.
By guiltypleasure9, Comment Made on Melissa’s Bravo Blog
June 27, 2012
So let’s recap. Melissa hates her brother’s wife so much that she contacts the RHONJ cast member who would like nothing more than to take her down, and asks said member to help her take her SIL down. That did not work, so she contacts Bravo, yet again promising she will take her SIL down, good for ratings. Melissa and her husband make video tapes saying as much (I would say this is truth as so far everything else rumored about you has panned out to be true). Now that Bravo needs a little action on the show without danielle, they take Melissa the snake on.
Melissa comes on the show with a multipurpose agenda. First to become famous, second to alienate Teresa from her friends, and third to take her SIL down, ruin her career and later to have her incarcerated. Her husband wants to take his sister down so she can see where she went wrong,..sick by the way. But what does one expect from an angel from God, delusional much?!
So now the snake starts off the season trying to show Teresa as hateful and victimizing her because of her jealousy. She works her way in between the already crumbling friendship of two-faced Caroline and Teresa’s long time friendship with quacky jacky. Round two: you try to get her sent to jail by continually airing her lifestyle so the court system will go after her…oh she has a new pony, stardust, and magic beans.
Thank goodness at some point karma will step in Melissa. I hope we viewers get to see it in action.
So now that it is all coming to light, you hitch your wagon to Jacqueline’s post partum, to say, ‘hey she punched Caroline and I went to the one person looking to take my sister in law down and fed her fuel for the fire.’
You are a manipulative one, but so transparent. So Teresa should forgive this? Seriously? Teresa I think is very simplistic; she often speaks without thinking; that is her crime. I never heard her bad mouth people unless pushed in a corner, i.e like with Danielle telling her to pay attention, which Teresa clearly took as a direct insult, and it was exactly that.
But even with you Melissa, Teresa has held her tongue in ways I never could have. So have I missed anything? You spent 2 or 3 years with an agenda to take Teresa down: some things worked–you got rid of her friends, you are known by the world, but only as attached to Teresa, and soon enough for the snake you are. Where you failed was that you were not able to take away her livelihood; and you know you tried to do that. In fact, the more you went after her, the more support she gained.
I doubt you will get her locked up, but to me that little agenda is the most disturbing of all and so transparent–you all deciding to out her to get her locked up is just beyond sick.
I probably missed a lot of what you have done, but I think that sums it up.
By Gem13, Comment on Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog
August 18, 2012
Jacqueline, please help us understand the “other pressures ” from Teresa during your talk. You have been so elusive about the demise of your relationship. I can’t believe you would end a 10 year friendship because Teresa denied tabloid rumors. It doesn’t make sense. You’ve known Teresa for over 10 years. Was your relationship always “not that deep”? (there’s nothing wrong with that) Or did it suddenly change from a deeply fulfilling relationship to a shallow one? If it wasn’t that deep in the past, how can you expect it to change? How could you end it? What exactly did she do to hurt you personally that you would end your friendship? It must have been terrible, but I still don’t know. Although you manage to write pages and pages in your blog, there are so many unanswered questions. You’ve managed to imply she was bringing Danielle back in your lives, but this reasoning doesn’t make sense. She just wanted to verify that her SIL contacted Danielle and thanked her. End of story. (the contact and information given was used as ammunition to hurt Teresa, your friend. This act reveals Melissa’s character. Watch your back) she did not contact Danielle to hurt you! You’ve accused Teresa of being fake; you want her to be real. Please practice what you preach and be REAL with us. Let your conscience be your guide. If you continue to be elusive and rant about how Teresa wasn’t a good friend to you, you risk sounding delusional.
By viewer553 , Comment Made on Jacqueline’s Bravo Blog, ‘A Dysfunctional Family Vacation’
August 10, 2012
Jacqueline, it wasn’t your job or place to be a mediator in another family’s problems. You lose the ability to be NEUTRAL when you are personally and emotionally involved with any or all of the parties. Even more so when you have a vested interest in the outcome, because you wanted peace in the workplace and the focus off Teresa. When you felt you needed to be a friend to all, and not just to Teresa, was the time for you to decline to even listen to complaints from her or her family, let alone act as a messenger or intervene.
Had you still wanted to be FAIR, rather than neutral, you would not have minimized the way your friend was actually maligned by her family, especially when you learned how Melissa & Joe schemed to get on the show, and who they contacted to help them. No one, including you, spoke up and confronted them.
In the most dysfunctional families, groups, societies, people look the other way when others are being mistreated for the sake of their own selfish reasons. At the least, what evolved was an unspoken agreement between your family and Teresa’s that this was ok. Had someone truly acknowledged how terrible this betrayal was, and how defenseless it made her feel, she probably would have been LESS defensive and felt understood. Had she received a genuine confession and apology from her BROTHER (not gonna happen), not just Melissa’s hormonal explanation, she might have been able to find real forgiveness and move past it.
When a lie continues, there is never a real resolution and no chance for trust. Obviously, Caroline feels that way, and though she chooses not to believe Teresa, she did receive an apology. Teresa’s tears for her brother were real; I believe the tears over you were real, as well. That you think her emotions are fake must make it easier for you to be in denial about the hurt and damage you helped inflict.
I believe you did care about her and then you were in the midst of serious problems of your own — financial, legal and feeling out of control to help your daughter to the point that you needed to literally distance yourself from her for the sake of a peaceful household. Many of the things you said about Ashley after the phone call on the deck were the same things you said about Teresa. Not getting through to either one of them.
I believe you had people (her family) being kind to you, in your ear about her and dropping some comments about things she supposedly said about you to weaken your trust. Caroline, as well, had her gripes and totally wrote her off and didn’t want Teresa in your lives anymore period. Her agenda was strictly financial. You were vulnerable and everyone worked on you until you were convinced they must be right.
On your own website, you mention the fact that you were arrested years back for punching a friend (not Caroline). That’s not exactly a normal thing to happen and indicative of a problem. Do you mention it casually in a long list of things about yourself to minimize it before others could make an even bigger deal about it? Kind of sounds like what Teresa was doing when she showed herself at the attorney’s office, etc. — trying to have some control about what was exposed to the public.
If you feel things as deeply as you profess, I believe you need professional help to resolve your anger, without input from your sister-in-law or Teresa’s family. You are “acting out” in way that is not mature for someone of your age. You seem to be taunting Teresa and even commenters to get attention and a reaction.
The gang of bullies (castmates, their husbands, adult children, roommate of adult children, and sisters and makeup artists of castmates) have been tweeting, blogging, using media appearances, and feeding gossip to tabloids and bloggers to take down Teresa. They have been relentless with the constant stream of criticism directed at Teresa, her husband and her children.