Kathy Wakile Calls Teresa Giudice’s Fans an ‘Army of Idiots’; Kathy Wakile’s Mother and Teresa Giudice’s Mother Are Not Blood Relatives, So Their Recipes Are Different ‘Family Recipes’ (Updated 8/10/2012)
July 24, 2012 42 Comments
“First, we need to talk frankly to the cast members for a second. Guess what, cast members. If you are on this show, it’s because you create and/or attract drama. You are not superior to the other cast members. You are not the one who’s above the B.S. Yes, this means you, Miss Holier-than-Thou. You and your gossip and pettiness. For instance, in this episode, Caroline Manzo predicts that Teresa Giudice will get a divorce, and that she will write a book about it. Caroline often tries to play the wise mom, but really, predicting your former friend will get a divorce and write about it? That’s pretty low. She adds, ‘You heard it here first.’ Great; we’ll make sure you get all the credit for the spiteful gossip as it happens.” [Hudson Reporter - RECAP Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 4 Episode 13 Almost in Napa]
Kathy Wakile Calls Teresa’s Fans an ‘Army of Idiots’
“Clearly my attitude towards Teresa has changed and with good reason. I won’t be a soldier in her army.” – Caroline Manzo, ‘Like You Mean It’, May 6, 2012
“Teresa needed allies on the show (looking to recruit soldiers for her army)… Teresa wants her friends to be her soldiers in her army. My dad was an army colonel, so I recognize military tactics. I wasn’t looking to get drafted.” – Jacqueline Laurita, ‘Don’t Get It Twisted’, June 27, 2012 and ‘Spin City’, May 7, 2012
“Well, well it looks like the #ArmyOfIdiots is recruiting some new soldiers again. When u all get to HELL make sure u tell the DEVIL I sent u.” - Kathy Wakile, August 7, 2012, Twitter [After Kathy made the tweet, she was asked on Twitter to clarify, but she failed to do so. Instead, she blocked everyone's inquiries and eventually deleted the tweet.]
“Kathy, the WORST thing you can do is ATTACK the fans. Without the fans, you have no show and without the show you have no ‘PRODUCT ‘ and without the product, you are back to being an average PLAIN JANE in New Jersey with a gas-pumping, foul-mouth man for a husband. Get it.” – taffi, August 10, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“Kathy, a lot people want to be famous. Some will do anything to achieve it. Most don’t fully understand the meaning of The Price of Fame. Most will let their fans inflate their egos, while some will let their egos infuriate their fans. Many are foolish enough to believe they can escape the relentless scrutiny of the media and their fans. Some flourish – some fail. You might ask, what’s the difference between a Movie Star and a Reality Star? At the end of the day Johnny Depp isn’t a chocolate making, scissor handed, Mad Hatter gangster pirate barber that grows corn. But, at the end of the same day, you aren’t a fictional character brought to life by someone’s imagination. You are the person we see and hear and we the viewers can hold you accountable for your actions (whether out right or implied) – just like every other REAL person. FANS WILL MAKE YOU OR BREAK YOU.” – Calypso, Representing the ARMY OF IDIOTS, August 10, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“Just read Kathy’s tweet and it sure would be nice to hear from her what exactly she meant – it really doesn’t ‘read’ well. For the mere fact she has put herself out there on reality TV, she does owe people an explanation. Put something out there in print, on the radio, on TV, in your blog, or social media such as Twitter or Facebook for all the world to see – as a public figure, you should at least explain it. (An opinion other housewives have voiced, at one time or another, about Teresa.) Many other famous people have been held accountable for far less. What sense does this tweet make?” – Jeannie5233, August 10, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“That is exactly what she meant, because when other people read it on twitter and called her out on it regarding not liking her behavior and supporting Teresa, and why she was calling people the army of idiots, Kathy then blocked these people. All this shows is that Kathy is really not a nice person, and she certainly is two faced. Kathy does not care about, love or support Teresa. We have seen this, and when Bravo shows reruns and someone tweets something new when they watched the reruns, Kathy put up the tweet about the army of idiots and them going to hell, and for them to tell the devil when they get there, that Kathy sent them. Is that the comment of a nice person? I don’t think so, and as many have said they are acting for the cameras. If any of the viewers are idiots, it is for watching this trash, and supporting anything the Wakiles, Manzos, Lauritas, and Gorgas have to offer, as they are the ones that are constantly tweeting something nasty to viewers. I will give Teresa credit, that if she doesn’t like something that someone tweets (and I am sure there is), she ignores it and doesn’t tweet nasty comments back to them. These women really are the bottom of the barrel.” – MelindaK., August 11, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“If it wasn’t regarding Teresa fans then she wouldn’t have taken it down. She would have left it up and tweeted after that tweet that it was was not meant toward Teresa and her fans and apologized for the misunderstanding. Seriously, how many ‘army of idiots’ could a person have in her life? If not Teresa’s fans, who else do you think would be an ‘army’ she couldn’t stand? If there really was another army she is feuding with, then the woman has issues. Let’s be real and not try to twist what she did.” – CC1921, August 12, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
Kathy Wakile’s Mother and Teresa Giudice’s Mother Are Not Blood Relatives, So Their Recipes Are Different ‘Family Recipes’
Kathy Wakile’s mother and Teresa Giudice’s mother are not blood relatives, so Kathy’s mother’s ‘family recipes’ are not Teresa’s mother’s ‘family recipes’. In other words, Teresa’s mother and Kathy’s mother are NOT sisters, so the recipes are NOT from the same grandmother or mother. The blood relation is between Kathy’s mom and Teresa’s father, who are brother and sister.
On July 17, 2012, Teresa said on her Bravo blog, Dreams Come True:
“Kathy’s mom is my dad’s sister and as you know, they didn’t grow up together either.”
Kathy has no blood relation to Teresa’s mother. Kathy and Teresa are blood relatives because of Teresa’ father, who is the brother of Kathy’s mother.
For Kathy to imply that recipes in Teresa’s cookbook are from her mother (at a book signing in front of fans) is a lie and an attempt to ruin Teresa’s reputation and discredit her cookbooks so that she can market her own. Teresa has always said that the recipes in her cookbooks were passed down to her by her mother, who is not a blood relative to Kathy, her mother or her grandmother.
“What in the world is Kathy doing? I’m trying to figure out what would possess her to come to my book signing (Finally, by the way! I’ve been having them for two years right near her house… First thing she hosts though, and I’m there!) and suggest the recipes were her mother’s. First of all, you can tell she never read the book at all since she points out pizelle cookies which don’t even have a recipe in the book (I use store bought for a quick kid ice cream sandwich dessert). Then she keeps pointing to pictures and saying ‘my mom’s, my mom’s.’ Who does that? I don’t know why she wants people to think our moms are related and somehow I’m using her mom’s recipes. Our mothers aren’t related by blood, they didn’t grow up together, and her mom didn’t even grow up with my dad, her brother. And no, we’ve never baked together. And yes, I can bake. Always have. I’m not trying to be the Cake Boss, but I think I can make a cupcake! I’m also pretty sure my mom’s not the only Italian grandma with a cookie recipe, but my mom’s is the one I use.” [Teresa Giudice, July 24, 2012, The Knitting Circle]
In season 4 episode 13, Kathy indirectly accused Teresa of stealing family recipes for her own financial gain: Kathy commented during Teresa’s book signing that the cookies in her cookbook were actually her own mother’s recipe (this was the first book signing of Teresa’s that Kathy ever attended even though Teresa had been doing them for two years at that point). It is important to note that the cookbook does not have a pizzelle recipe: the photo Kathy was looking at was for a recipe that uses store-bought cookies for a ‘quick kid ice cream sandwich dessert’. The fact is, Kathy went to Teresa’s cookbook signing and pointed out that certain recipes in Teresa’s cookbook were her mother’s, and now she is backpedaling and denying her accusations.
“Kathy, for starters, when you appeared on Andy live, even Andy Cohen said it ever so gently…that it was a passive aggressive comment that you made toward Teresa’s recipe in the cookbook… and you did not seem to happy about that. So I have to agree with Andy and the majority of the viewers: it was a passive aggressive comment. In the Collins English dictionary, the meaning of the term passive aggressive is this: of or relating to a personality that harbours aggressive emotions while behaving in a calm or detached manner. Sound familiar? And as far as the dig Teresa made to you about no one buying a dessert cookbook… well she made that comment after you accused her and her mother of stealing your mother’s recipes.” – Debbieinmissouricitytx, July 27, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
Kathy told Celebuzz on July 23, 2012, that she didn’t mean to imply that Teresa stole her mother’s recipes:
“I don’t know why she took it as if I was inferring that [the recipes were stolen], because that wasn’t what I was doing. I wanted to support her. I wanted to be happy for her and support her at her book signing. I was so happy and proud of her that she’s got another book out there.”
On the show, Teresa called the comments “a cheap, passive aggressive shot.” Of course, Kathy disagreed. Kathy told Celebuzz:
“Sister-in-laws share recipes [Kathy's mom and Teresa's mom are SILs]; it’s not that big of a deal. I don’t know why [Teresa] would bring it to that level. Nobody has heard that anything was stolen on my end. You know, that’s crazy.”
Teresa later insisted that the recipes were her mother’s recipes and not her aunt’s, but Wakile says that arguing over the recipes seems silly.
“The bottom line is if you Google a cookie recipe, a basic simple cookie recipe, it could be the same recipe with a different ingredient here and there,” Kathy points out. “It’s not like it’s reinventing the wheel here.”
In her July 25, 2012, Bravo blog, True Beauty, for episode 13, Jacqueline said that Teresa’s mom called Kathy’s mom for her cookie recipe. And during episode 14, Melissa told Teresa that Kathy said the same thing to her, that Teresa’s mom called Kathy’s mom for her recipe and then Teresa put it in her cookbook.
During season 4 episode 14, during their walk on the beach, Melissa told Teresa:
“She said your mom called her up and asked her for that recipe. (Teresa: “No”.) And her mom gave it to your mom and then you put it in the book… (Teresa: “Now?! She didn’t tell me that last night.”)”
Then in her talking head interview, Melissa said about Teresa and Kathy’s recipe-stealing allegation:
“Ridiculous. It’s stupid, and I think Teresa just needs to let it go. Let’s face it. Her mother and her father are brother and sister, so it may very well be one of her recipes. And what’s the big deal it it is?”
Melissa, Kathy, Jacqueline and Caroline are a bunch of lying hypocrites.
“Kathy may have noticed that her mom’s recipe that Teresa’s mom had called and asked her for was added to Teresa’s cookbook, but I don’t think there were any hard feelings from Kathy for it being in there. It just seemed like an observation.” [Jacqueline Laurita, July 25, 2012, 'True Beauty']
“Well the truth came out on last night’s episode; and if you caught the scene where Teresa and Melissa walk on the beach and have a talk, that’s when Melissa blabbed it without realizing it (no surprise there, lol). Anyhow, Teresa brought up when Kathy made the comment at her book signing about it being HER mom’s. Remember Kathy denied that she ever meant it to be accusatory and said she was actualy giving Teresa “props”? Well, when Teresa mentioned it Melissa responded that Kathy told her that it indeed was her mom’s recipe and that as a matter of fact Teresa’s mom called her and asked her for it years ago. Why would Melissa say such a thing if Kathy had not told her that? Kathy a martyr you aint sweetie. Don’t you and your husband always accuse Teresa of not being real? I’m no great Teresa fan but, come on, stop being so darn jealous all the time.” [charbyswife, July 30, 2012, Kathy's Bravo Blog]
Kathy does not mention in her Bravo blog for episode 14 anything about the conversation Melissa had with Teresa on the beach about Kathy’s cookie comments: “the same day Kathy had been complaining that Teresa used her mom’s recipes, Melissa said Kathy claimed that Teresa’s mother called Kathy’s mother for the recipes. Melissa used that conversation to get that accusation out there on tape. With that, any protestation of innocence is false. Kathy cannot claim she was making no such assertion while simultaneously whining to Melissa with her claim that the recipes were her mother’s cookies.” [Cajsa, August 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com]
“Kathy tries to clear up that she never said they were her mothers ‘recipes’, but then says in her blog that her mother always shared her recipes with her sister-in-laws. What exactly is she trying to do? Clearly her intentions are to create ambiguity around the authenticity of Teresa’s cookbook. She is trying to damage Teresa’s livelihood. If the recipes were from Kathy’s own mother, everyone knows FULL WELL that Kathy would be shouting it from the rooftops!!! Since she knows they are NOT, she trys to play around with what words she used. But then goes on in the next paragraph of her blog and tries to create confusion again. To me that shows the level of hatred she has for Teresa. Why doesn’t Kathy come right out and state unequivocally that the recipes did not come from her mother? Because she is the passive aggressive “not nice” person that Teresa said she is.” [CatCan, August 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com]
In her July 24, 2012, Bravo blog, Say Cheese, for episode 13, Melissa said that “most families pass recipes down, most come from a grandmother, and they both have the same grandmother, so let’s just say it’s a family recipe.” However, their mothers are not blood relatives and Teresa’s maternal grandmother is not related to Kathy; therefore, the grandmothers are not the same.
“As far as the recipe goes, whether it’s Kathy’s mom’s or Teresa’s mom’s just seems silly to me. They are one family; their parents are brother and sister. They are the whole family’s recipe. Most families pass recipes down, most come from a grandmother, and they both have the same grandmother. So come on ladies, let’s just say it’s a family recipe! Done!” – Melissa Gorga, July 24, 2012, ‘Say Cheese’
But Kathy said “my mother’s cookies” and Teresa has clearly said the recipes come from her mother’s side of the family, so Kathy is lying because her mother is not a blood relative of Teresa’s mother.
“Standard recipes like chocolate chip cookies or brownies are in every cookbook and I guarantee many are exactly the same. You don’t see Betty Crocker rising up from the grave and pointing fingers. If she’s talking about pastries made in every Italian home, does she really think the recipe her mother is using is 100% original? So unless Kathy’s mom is an extraordinary pastry chef who put an original twist on the cookies, she should really pipe down.” [jerseygirl, August 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com]
Video: Recipe Stealer? (Season 4, Episode 14)
Teresa Giudice confides to Melissa Gorga that Kathy Wakile claimed a few recipes in Teresa’s cookbook as Kathy’s mom’s recipes (this was a scene from season 4 episode 13; see video here). Teresa confronts Kathy over her “stolen recipe” accusations and sister-in-law Melissa attempts to show Teresa the error of her ways.
In her July 24, 2012, Bravo blog, Kathy, That’s the Way the Cookie Crumbles, she tries to spin away her comments from episode 13, saying that although their mothers are not sisters, they are still ‘family’, without explaining that they are not blood relatives in any way. This is her way of stretching the truth:
“As Teresa flips through the pages, I notice the pictures of cookie’s my mom often makes. My mother, her mother, as a matter of fact, probably a lot of Italian mothers. Who cares? She doesn’t even have a pizzelle recipe in that book, just a recipe using store bought! Isn’t it a family cookbook? Why so defensive? I know my mother and her mother are not sisters, which she made such a vivid point of in her blog last week. I never claimed that they were sisters. Again, who cares? None the less, they are family and family shares recipes all the time. Are we now going to start a war over a teaspoon of vanilla or 1/2 cup of sugar? Please, Teresa, get over it! Stop being so petty! But I guess that’s just how the cookie crumbles. No pun intended (or should I say no crumbs intended).”
Kathy is the one who said at the book signing that the recipes were her mother’s recipes, so Kathy is the petty one here. She is also the one who told Melissa that Teresa’s mom called Kathy’s mom for the cookie recipe and then put it in her cookbook. That is accusing both Teresa and her mother of stealing recipes. Then when Teresa talked to Kathy about it to clear the air, Kathy neglected to tell Teresa that whole truth: that she told Melissa the story that Teresa’s mom called her mom for the recipe.
“Melissa, why can’t you just admit that Kathy was being petty…can you only point out what Teresa does wrong?” [crystal1850, July 26, 2012, Melissa's Bravo Blog]
“While your tasting was cute it seemed like a kid’s birthday party, definitely not a tasting. You could have at the very least used a computer to make some cute signs instead of those dreadful home made signs they looked very childish. You should realize that Teresa did work hard to get published and become successful with her books going to countless signings alone is a lot of work. You can’t resent her and you won’t become an overnight success either. Maybe your big mouth husband should put his money where his mouth is and find you a store front then you can find out what hard work is instead of whining all the time that you are better then Teresa. Go to work and prove it.” [charbyswife, July 30, 2012, Kathy's Bravo Blog]
The excuse that the recipes in Teresa’s cookbook are recipes from a region of Italy were Teresa’s mother and Kathy’s mother grew up, as some are saying on the blogs, is inaccurate. Kathy’s mother did not grow up with her parents and siblings: she was raised by an aunt. Kathy’s mother was sent away as a small child to live with a childless aunt and did not grow up with her other siblings.
“Mrs. Pierri told a genuinely sad story about her childhood. When she was five years old, her dad died and her mother kept a promise to let his childless sister raise the little girl. Some years later, on a December 8 (feast of the Immaculate Conception), she and her aunt (who by then she considered her mother) had to pass her real mother’s house and the aunt asked if she’d like to pay a visit. By that point, she didn’t remember that she’d ever had another mother. Nor did she know that she had siblings. But somehow, she found a way to forgive and move on.”
In her July 24, 2012 Bravo blog, The Knitting Circle, for episode 13, Teresa said:
“I’m also pretty sure my mom’s not the only Italian grandma with a cookie recipe, but my mom’s is the one I use. What makes Kathy keep picking at my cooking success though? Is she insecure because she obviously came on my show to launch a new baking career and she thinks people will think she’s stealing from me, so she puts it out there first? I don’t know. I just know that she’s calculated, she’s passive aggressive, and “nice” is NOT her middle name. If it was, she’d clear this up herself immediately, and she would have cleared it up on WWHL with Andy Cohen. And I’ve asked her to. She didn’t answer me back. I’ve told her I want to work with her, I support her, but all I see her doing is pushing bad rumors about me and letting her husband say evil things about me. I don’t know too many nice girls who do that.”