Kathy Wakile Calls Teresa Giudice’s Fans an ‘Army of Idiots'; Kathy Wakile’s Mother and Teresa Giudice’s Mother Are Not Blood Relatives, So Their Recipes Are Different ‘Family Recipes’ (Updated 8/10/2012)
“First, we need to talk frankly to the cast members for a second. Guess what, cast members. If you are on this show, it’s because you create and/or attract drama. You are not superior to the other cast members. You are not the one who’s above the B.S. Yes, this means you, Miss Holier-than-Thou. You and your gossip and pettiness. For instance, in this episode, Caroline Manzo predicts that Teresa Giudice will get a divorce, and that she will write a book about it. Caroline often tries to play the wise mom, but really, predicting your former friend will get a divorce and write about it? That’s pretty low. She adds, ‘You heard it here first.’ Great; we’ll make sure you get all the credit for the spiteful gossip as it happens.” [Hudson Reporter - RECAP Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 4 Episode 13 Almost in Napa]
Kathy Wakile Calls Teresa’s Fans an ‘Army of Idiots'; Caroline and Jacqueline Refer to Teresa’s Fans as ‘Her Army of Soldiers’
“Clearly my attitude towards Teresa has changed and with good reason. I won’t be a soldier in her army.” – Caroline Manzo, ‘Like You Mean It’, May 6, 2012
“Teresa needed allies on the show (looking to recruit soldiers for her army)… Teresa wants her friends to be her soldiers in her army. My dad was an army colonel, so I recognize military tactics. I wasn’t looking to get drafted.” – Jacqueline Laurita, ‘Don’t Get It Twisted’, June 27, 2012 and ‘Spin City’, May 7, 2012
“Well, well it looks like the #ArmyOfIdiots is recruiting some new soldiers again. When u all get to HELL make sure u tell the DEVIL I sent u.” - Kathy Wakile, August 7, 2012, Twitter
After Kathy made the tweet (above), she was asked on Twitter to clarify, but she failed to do so. Instead, she blocked everyone’s inquiries and eventually deleted the tweet.
“Kathy, the WORST thing you can do is ATTACK the fans. Without the fans, you have no show and without the show you have no ‘PRODUCT ‘ and without the product, you are back to being an average PLAIN JANE in New Jersey with a gas-pumping, foul-mouth man for a husband. Get it.” – taffi, August 10, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“Kathy, a lot people want to be famous. Some will do anything to achieve it. Most don’t fully understand the meaning of The Price of Fame. Most will let their fans inflate their egos, while some will let their egos infuriate their fans. Many are foolish enough to believe they can escape the relentless scrutiny of the media and their fans. Some flourish – some fail. You might ask, what’s the difference between a Movie Star and a Reality Star? At the end of the day Johnny Depp isn’t a chocolate making, scissor handed, Mad Hatter gangster pirate barber that grows corn. But, at the end of the same day, you aren’t a fictional character brought to life by someone’s imagination. You are the person we see and hear and we the viewers can hold you accountable for your actions (whether out right or implied) – just like every other REAL person. FANS WILL MAKE YOU OR BREAK YOU.” – Calypso, Representing the ARMY OF IDIOTS, August 10, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“Just read Kathy’s tweet and it sure would be nice to hear from her what exactly she meant – it really doesn’t ‘read’ well. For the mere fact she has put herself out there on reality TV, she does owe people an explanation. Put something out there in print, on the radio, on TV, in your blog, or social media such as Twitter or Facebook for all the world to see – as a public figure, you should at least explain it. (An opinion other housewives have voiced, at one time or another, about Teresa.) Many other famous people have been held accountable for far less. What sense does this tweet make?” – Jeannie5233, August 10, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“That is exactly what she meant, because when other people read it on twitter and called her out on it regarding not liking her behavior and supporting Teresa, and why she was calling people the army of idiots, Kathy then blocked these people. All this shows is that Kathy is really not a nice person, and she certainly is two faced. Kathy does not care about, love or support Teresa. We have seen this, and when Bravo shows reruns and someone tweets something new when they watched the reruns, Kathy put up the tweet about the army of idiots and them going to hell, and for them to tell the devil when they get there, that Kathy sent them. Is that the comment of a nice person? I don’t think so, and as many have said they are acting for the cameras. If any of the viewers are idiots, it is for watching this trash, and supporting anything the Wakiles, Manzos, Lauritas, and Gorgas have to offer, as they are the ones that are constantly tweeting something nasty to viewers. I will give Teresa credit, that if she doesn’t like something that someone tweets (and I am sure there is), she ignores it and doesn’t tweet nasty comments back to them. These women really are the bottom of the barrel.” – MelindaK., August 11, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
“If it wasn’t regarding Teresa fans then she wouldn’t have taken it down. She would have left it up and tweeted after that tweet that it was was not meant toward Teresa and her fans and apologized for the misunderstanding. Seriously, how many ‘army of idiots’ could a person have in her life? If not Teresa’s fans, who else do you think would be an ‘army’ she couldn’t stand? If there really was another army she is feuding with, then the woman has issues. Let’s be real and not try to twist what she did.” – CC1921, August 12, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
Kathy Wakile’s Mother and Teresa Giudice’s Mother Are Not Blood Relatives, So Their Recipes Are Different ‘Family Recipes’
Kathy Wakile’s mother and Teresa Giudice’s mother are not blood relatives, so Kathy’s mother’s ‘family recipes’ are not Teresa’s mother’s ‘family recipes’. In other words, Teresa’s mother and Kathy’s mother are NOT sisters, so the recipes are NOT from the same grandmother or mother. The blood relation is between Kathy’s mom and Teresa’s father, who are brother and sister.
On July 17, 2012, Teresa said on her Bravo blog, Dreams Come True:
“Kathy’s mom is my dad’s sister and as you know, they didn’t grow up together either.”
Kathy has no blood relation to Teresa’s mother. Kathy and Teresa are blood relatives because of Teresa’ father, who is the brother of Kathy’s mother.
For Kathy to imply that recipes in Teresa’s cookbook are from her mother (at a book signing in front of fans) is a lie and an attempt to ruin Teresa’s reputation and discredit her cookbooks so that she can market her own. Teresa has always said that the recipes in her cookbooks were passed down to her by her mother, who is not a blood relative to Kathy, her mother or her grandmother.
“What in the world is Kathy doing? I’m trying to figure out what would possess her to come to my book signing (Finally, by the way! I’ve been having them for two years right near her house… First thing she hosts though, and I’m there!) and suggest the recipes were her mother’s. First of all, you can tell she never read the book at all since she points out pizelle cookies which don’t even have a recipe in the book (I use store bought for a quick kid ice cream sandwich dessert). Then she keeps pointing to pictures and saying ‘my mom’s, my mom’s.’ Who does that? I don’t know why she wants people to think our moms are related and somehow I’m using her mom’s recipes. Our mothers aren’t related by blood, they didn’t grow up together, and her mom didn’t even grow up with my dad, her brother. And no, we’ve never baked together. And yes, I can bake. Always have. I’m not trying to be the Cake Boss, but I think I can make a cupcake! I’m also pretty sure my mom’s not the only Italian grandma with a cookie recipe, but my mom’s is the one I use.” [Teresa Giudice, July 24, 2012, The Knitting Circle]
In season 4 episode 13, Kathy indirectly accused Teresa of stealing family recipes for her own financial gain: Kathy commented during Teresa’s book signing that the cookies in her cookbook were actually her own mother’s recipe (this was the first book signing of Teresa’s that Kathy ever attended even though Teresa had been doing them for two years at that point). It is important to note that the cookbook does not have a pizzelle recipe: the photo Kathy was looking at was for a recipe that uses store-bought cookies for a ‘quick kid ice cream sandwich dessert’. The fact is, Kathy went to Teresa’s cookbook signing and pointed out that certain recipes in Teresa’s cookbook were her mother’s, and now she is backpedaling and denying her accusations.
“Kathy, for starters, when you appeared on Andy live, even Andy Cohen said it ever so gently…that it was a passive aggressive comment that you made toward Teresa’s recipe in the cookbook… and you did not seem to happy about that. So I have to agree with Andy and the majority of the viewers: it was a passive aggressive comment. In the Collins English dictionary, the meaning of the term passive aggressive is this: of or relating to a personality that harbours aggressive emotions while behaving in a calm or detached manner. Sound familiar? And as far as the dig Teresa made to you about no one buying a dessert cookbook… well she made that comment after you accused her and her mother of stealing your mother’s recipes.” – Debbieinmissouricitytx, July 27, 2012, Kathy’s Bravo Blog
Kathy told Celebuzz on July 23, 2012, that she didn’t mean to imply that Teresa stole her mother’s recipes:
“I don’t know why she took it as if I was inferring that [the recipes were stolen], because that wasn’t what I was doing. I wanted to support her. I wanted to be happy for her and support her at her book signing. I was so happy and proud of her that she’s got another book out there.”
On the show, Teresa called the comments “a cheap, passive aggressive shot.” Of course, Kathy disagreed. Kathy told Celebuzz:
“Sister-in-laws share recipes [Kathy's mom and Teresa's mom are SILs]; it’s not that big of a deal. I don’t know why [Teresa] would bring it to that level. Nobody has heard that anything was stolen on my end. You know, that’s crazy.”
Teresa later insisted that the recipes were her mother’s recipes and not her aunt’s, but Wakile says that arguing over the recipes seems silly.
“The bottom line is if you Google a cookie recipe, a basic simple cookie recipe, it could be the same recipe with a different ingredient here and there,” Kathy points out. “It’s not like it’s reinventing the wheel here.”
In her July 25, 2012, Bravo blog, True Beauty, for episode 13, Jacqueline said that Teresa’s mom called Kathy’s mom for her cookie recipe. And during episode 14, Melissa told Teresa that Kathy said the same thing to her, that Teresa’s mom called Kathy’s mom for her recipe and then Teresa put it in her cookbook.
During season 4 episode 14, during their walk on the beach, Melissa told Teresa:
“She said your mom called her up and asked her for that recipe. (Teresa: “No”.) And her mom gave it to your mom and then you put it in the book… (Teresa: “Now?! She didn’t tell me that last night.”)”
Then in her talking head interview, Melissa said about Teresa and Kathy’s recipe-stealing allegation:
“Ridiculous. It’s stupid, and I think Teresa just needs to let it go. Let’s face it. Her mother and her father are brother and sister, so it may very well be one of her recipes. And what’s the big deal it it is?”
Melissa, Kathy, Jacqueline and Caroline are a bunch of lying hypocrites.
“Kathy may have noticed that her mom’s recipe that Teresa’s mom had called and asked her for was added to Teresa’s cookbook, but I don’t think there were any hard feelings from Kathy for it being in there. It just seemed like an observation.” [Jacqueline Laurita, July 25, 2012, 'True Beauty']
“Well the truth came out on last night’s episode; and if you caught the scene where Teresa and Melissa walk on the beach and have a talk, that’s when Melissa blabbed it without realizing it (no surprise there, lol). Anyhow, Teresa brought up when Kathy made the comment at her book signing about it being HER mom’s. Remember Kathy denied that she ever meant it to be accusatory and said she was actualy giving Teresa “props”? Well, when Teresa mentioned it Melissa responded that Kathy told her that it indeed was her mom’s recipe and that as a matter of fact Teresa’s mom called her and asked her for it years ago. Why would Melissa say such a thing if Kathy had not told her that? Kathy a martyr you aint sweetie. Don’t you and your husband always accuse Teresa of not being real? I’m no great Teresa fan but, come on, stop being so darn jealous all the time.” [charbyswife, July 30, 2012, Kathy's Bravo Blog]
Kathy does not mention in her Bravo blog for episode 14 anything about the conversation Melissa had with Teresa on the beach about Kathy’s cookie comments: “the same day Kathy had been complaining that Teresa used her mom’s recipes, Melissa said Kathy claimed that Teresa’s mother called Kathy’s mother for the recipes. Melissa used that conversation to get that accusation out there on tape. With that, any protestation of innocence is false. Kathy cannot claim she was making no such assertion while simultaneously whining to Melissa with her claim that the recipes were her mother’s cookies.” [Cajsa, August 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com]
“Kathy tries to clear up that she never said they were her mothers ‘recipes’, but then says in her blog that her mother always shared her recipes with her sister-in-laws. What exactly is she trying to do? Clearly her intentions are to create ambiguity around the authenticity of Teresa’s cookbook. She is trying to damage Teresa’s livelihood. If the recipes were from Kathy’s own mother, everyone knows FULL WELL that Kathy would be shouting it from the rooftops!!! Since she knows they are NOT, she trys to play around with what words she used. But then goes on in the next paragraph of her blog and tries to create confusion again. To me that shows the level of hatred she has for Teresa. Why doesn’t Kathy come right out and state unequivocally that the recipes did not come from her mother? Because she is the passive aggressive “not nice” person that Teresa said she is.” [CatCan, August 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com]
In her July 24, 2012, Bravo blog, Say Cheese, for episode 13, Melissa said that “most families pass recipes down, most come from a grandmother, and they both have the same grandmother, so let’s just say it’s a family recipe.” However, their mothers are not blood relatives and Teresa’s maternal grandmother is not related to Kathy; therefore, the grandmothers are not the same.
“As far as the recipe goes, whether it’s Kathy’s mom’s or Teresa’s mom’s just seems silly to me. They are one family; their parents are brother and sister. They are the whole family’s recipe. Most families pass recipes down, most come from a grandmother, and they both have the same grandmother. So come on ladies, let’s just say it’s a family recipe! Done!” – Melissa Gorga, July 24, 2012, ‘Say Cheese’
But Kathy said “my mother’s cookies” and Teresa has clearly said the recipes come from her mother’s side of the family, so Kathy is lying because her mother is not a blood relative of Teresa’s mother.
“Standard recipes like chocolate chip cookies or brownies are in every cookbook and I guarantee many are exactly the same. You don’t see Betty Crocker rising up from the grave and pointing fingers. If she’s talking about pastries made in every Italian home, does she really think the recipe her mother is using is 100% original? So unless Kathy’s mom is an extraordinary pastry chef who put an original twist on the cookies, she should really pipe down.” [jerseygirl, August 1, 2012, AllAboutTRH.com]
The Lauritas and Manzos Are Hoping Viewers Will Buy Blk ‘Out of Pity’ (They Say They’ve ‘Invested Everything’ in Blk); Melissa Gorga Accuses Teresa Giudice and Bravo Producers of Sabotage (Updated 7/17/2012)
The Manzos and Lauritas made it perfectly clear during season 4 episode 12 (a giant infomercial) that they have everything riding on the success of BLK water (it is not a coincidence that this season Chris Laurita had more screen time than Jacqueline in episode 12 and that he is doing talking head interviews looking rather depressed and saying things like “this has to work” as if this is their last hope). The episode was filmed in August 2011, and BLK is not the success they hoped it would be. This must be adding to the resentment and jealously the cast has toward Teresa Giudice.
Chris Laurita said during episode 12 that he “invested everything” in BLK (Albie Manzo said essentially the same thing). And both Chris and Jacqueline even mentioned that their apparel company went bankrupt. They are hoping viewers will buy their product out of pity, which is what Jacqueline ‘Loose Lips’ Laurita claims Teresa is doing (see quotes below). The creditors of the Laurita’s apparel company forced a corporate bankruptcy in 2009, but they are just now, two and a half years later, mentioning it on the show.
To make the case that they (along with Bravo, which has a vested interest in BLK’s success) are playing the viewers for fools, an astute viewer questioned why the Lauritas were acting like owners of BLK rather than just promoters of the product:
“OK…so, when we first were introduced to BLK it seemed that Chris was partnering with (or backing) Christopher and Albie in a new promotion company. My impression was that they were starting a business to promote other people’s products (and I assume make some sort of percentage off of sales they made). It seemed to me BLK was their first client. NOW it seems as if they are doing more than just promoting BLK…it seems like it’s THEIR product/company. The way they’re talking about all the money they’re spending, the traveling, the booth, the van, etc…that’s legwork people do to promote their own company, not someone elses. A promotional company throws some parties, gives the stuff out at a bar or a food store. Am I missing something? Did they purchase all the ownership rights to BLK? They all can’t get rich on this stuff if they’re just promoting it for someone else…and I don’t see them even remotely promoting anything else. They are all acting like this is their meal ticket and I don’t think there’s a chance it would be unless they OWN it. What’s the deal???” – ivygirl22, July 17 2012, IMDb.com
“People were buying Teresa’s products out of pity, thinking they were poor and needed help. People around town were starting to notice that her big lifestyle hadn’t changed and started saying that the Giudices were con artists, and were part of a big scam to get people to buy her products. People felt like they were getting played.” – Jacqueline Laurita, June 27, 2012, Don’t Get It Twisted
“I was wondering if Teresa was just profiting from people’s pity by benefiting from a big media scam while she was really living the high life or was my friend really in trouble, denying it to herself, suffering in silence and getting deeper in debt.” – Jacqueline Laurita, June 27, 2012, The Rules According to Teresa
Albie said during episode 12 that he invested his savings in BLK, and then backed up this statement while the show was airing by tweeting: “True story; no one gets paid from blk. All the money goes to making the company grow. We have all sacrificed a lot, hopefully it pays off!” – Albie Manzo, August 15, 2011, Twitter
“What Albie said is true; they have been traveling non-stop and busting their butts to get BLK out there. As a matter of fact, I’m sure we’ve even met quite a few of you who are reading right now at a BLK tasting somewhere along the way. If you have been to one, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support. It’s also true when Albie said they haven’t made a dime. All the money has been going right back into the company, and they’ve been working for pretty much nothing. Times have been rough, but the reward has been worth it.” – Caroline Manzo, July 15, 2012, Getting Saucy
“It was an involuntary bankruptcy. Signature Apparel stopped paying its vendors. And when the company’s books were reviewed by the trustee, a related adversary proceeding was filed against the Laurita Defendants. The Laurita Defendants are Joseph Laurita, director, Christopher Laurita, director, Adeline Laurita (wife of Joseph), Jacqueline Laurita (wife of Christopher), Anthony Laurita (brother of Joseph and Christopher), and Frankie Laurita (son of Joseph and now deceased). The adversary proceeding states the Laurita Defendants used over $7 million of the company’s funds for their own personal use – vacations, cars (Ashlee’s SUVs), credit cards, etc. It’s called a ‘bleed out.’ The bankruptcy trustee’s responsibility is to protect the bankruptcy estate and to get the legitimate creditors of the company paid (even though it may not be 100% but something). The personal assets of the Laurita Defendants will have to be sold and the proceeds paid to the bankruptcy estate to enable the legitimate creditors to be paid something. The Lauritas committed bankruptcy fraud – a federal crime. If prosecuted, prison time and fines.” – Love NJ, July 16, 2012, StoopidHousewives
“Well, I think some things became very clear in last night’s episode. It is all about their business ventures (which we knew), and their success in promoting their products. Kathy with desserts (Rich thought he was funny–not!), BLK and Chris L. admitting his other business failed and he sunk so much money in BLK and it just has to work or he is in deep sh*t (financially ruined), and now there is a trio of new pasta sauces from Caroline and hubby. This spoke volumes of the need to “take Teresa down”, make her look bad so that viewers will turn on her and not buy her products, and love the Manzo/Laurita gang for exposing Teresa, and then everyone will buy their products, and they will be rich. The want the viewers to spend our money on their crap and not Teresa’s. The almighty dollar and its pursuit has the devil working overtime in NJ. Just what the world needs, more water and pasta sauce. I would never spend one cent to buy any of their products or anything they are affiliated with. It is time for them to go away. Chris Laurita should have thought of his financial future before they embezzled/blew through all their company’s funds.” – julia109, July 16, 2012, Reality Tea
“Pretty sure Teresa’s product sales are out stripping the Sauce and BLK. I’m also pretty sure this is the crux of the issues between the Manzo/Lauritas and Giudices. They were never meant to be the successful ones. The Manzos tried to tarnish her image because they believed the public were supporting her product out of sympathy.” - Sackem, August 5, 2012, Reality Tea
“Now I get why you and Jacqueline wanted to get rid of Teresa. It seems like both of you were trying to alienate her so she could get kicked off the show, so that you girls would have the floor to promote your own products. I get it now; just getting rid of the competition.” – Mimilicious, July 17, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog
“Glad to see Caroline has stopped bashing and blaming Teresa in her blogs, but it is too little too late. We all know the outcome, as all of this came out one year ago, and Caroline continues to go on television interviews and speak negatively about Teresa. So she is fooling no one. I think they really think if they ‘exposed’ Teresa, and viewers saw how terrible she was, that they would no longer buy her products, and be so grateful for the others showing how bad Teresa is, that we would all run out and spend our money on their products instead of Teresa’s. In my opinion, it backfired and more people will say just as I do, that they will never spend one cent to buy any of the products from the other housewives on the show because of how nasty and mean they have been. They should have lived and let live, but I think they may have slit their own financial throats. Chris Laurita finally stated that he had financial problems with his other business (yeah they embezzled or drained all of the funds out of it), and now they really need this BLK to work or else he is in huge financial trouble. Well, they should have found a better strategy than trying to hurt Teresa, in order to help themselves. It is clear that the Manzo/Laurita gang had a meeting, and everyone decided on the agenda, and that would be to trash the whole Guidice family every chance that they got, and that each and every member would do it.” – MelindaK, July 17, 2012, Caroline’s Bravo Blog
“I think the other housewives are jealous of Teresa’s resilience and the business success she’s experiencing despite all her troubles. Caroline and Jacqueline, especially, seem to hate other females (look how badly they treat their daughters compared to their sons), so I’m not that surprised that they’re all trying to pull bullshit excuses out of their asses to justify their raging hatred of Teresa.” – Natasha333, July 15, 2012, Television Without Pity
“It’s so funny watching the beginning of BLK. They have come SOOO far since then. SOOO proud of our hard working boys!! :0) BLK is now in all the major grocery store chains across the country !!! BLK lawsuit settled. It’s over. All is good!! :0) Vanessa’s right! I shed a LOT of tears this season. Besides everything that went on, I found out I had extremely low testosterone. Now good!” – Jacqueline Laurita, July 15, 2012, Twitter [BLK is not in all the major grocery chains across the country if you check their website, http://www.blkbeverages.com